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AND THEN THEY CAME FOR ME

By Sally Cheyne McDonald


The last three and a half months have left this country reeling. Just to click them off, there is of course, Tea-baggers, health care, Iraq and Afghanistan and Israel heating up, what Rumsfeld called "old Europe" is collapsing and doing all they can to stay out of bankruptcy, the corrupt monetary system in this country is, well you know what it is, now we have a collapsing mining industry, and a horrific oil spill on April 20th at 10:00pm in the Gulf of Mexico and threatening our fragile coastal eco-system as it pours out 5,000 gallons a day into the Gulf of Mexico and lapping at the Louisiana shores and wetlands.


And the latest thing would be the repeat of the 1930's and 40's only this time instead of Jews it's the "illegal's" in Arizona with other states wanting to spread their "hate and fear" along with Arizona and Congress cannot come up with a plan, even though "old Europe" devised one a long time ago that's been working for them.

I can address all of these happenings with two aspects; Saturn opposing Uranus (two more coming) and Pluto opposing the US Venus and Jupiter plus Neptune opposing Leo a crumbling of our ego driven Leo generation in a very humbling way. This is the old in a fight with the new. As I've said before, there is a hit when the aspects get close and for the rest of the time one must deal with the event and we are dealing with a number of events; not only countries but individuals. People are losing their homes, their jobs, their health, their lives in record numbers. The real war of the worlds is between the Universe and Earth. I don’t know if Stephen Hawking is correct in his belief that aliens from the cosmic Universe are stalking this planet for its resources to shore up their own planet but if they are we might be in big trouble.

I wonder if he's right but wrong as to what's ahead, he could be seeing what's behind and we have been looking at aliens from the beginning of time, because it seems to me as if there have been a huge element on earth that have been stripping us of our resources since the beginning of recorded time. He said most people wouldn't know what he was talking about unless they were mathematicians, well mathematics goes forward and backward, so could we.

The next opposition between the titans Saturn/Uranus, will be in July at 0 Aries/Libra a real push me pull you action until at least January 2011 and Pluto will be in the mix.

It would be wrong to say this transformation is bad, it's challenging, that's what transformation is about and we can look at it as a bad thing or a good thing, I believe in looking at and grabbing all the good things as possible because they are there, alongside the seemingly negative. Neptune is traveling next to the US Moon and while the giant Leo ego is being washed away from our emotional attachment to things, the people of this country are becoming more and more creative in their desire to survive and transform, for now Neptune seems to be covering the reality of our emotional attachments, such as religion (the Catholic Church is leading the way on this one) covering the reality of monogamy (thanks Tiger and Dave) the security of money (thank you Goldman, BP, Exxon and all your buddies) the sovereignty of "freedom" (we bow to you Arizona for showing that illusion to be passing).

When the white man came to this country they shoved the Indians as far out as they could, and those who settled the west were always looking for the Calvary to come save them. Well now two hundred and more years later, there are a lot of people looking to the Indians to come save us from the out of control white men and women trying to hang on to the power and control we have bestowed upon them.

While taking this "elephant" as an unpalatable meal, I will try to break it down one bite at a time:

Economy and Housing and jobs:

Saturn being the natural ruler of the 4th house of home and Uranus as the natural ruler of the 11th house of friends and progressiveness, not to mention upheaval in order to effect change have been in their tug of war since last year, working against them is Pluto squaring the 10th and 4th house of the USA, that brought the housing bubble to a big pop and it might not be over as Saturn hits the US 10th house in a conjunction and Uranus conjunct the 4th house cusp and they will still be in opposition. Housing isn't finished going pop. Although Pluto is in Capricorn, it is still in the 1st house of the US chart and still structuring the psyche of the people of the United States. Pluto is also opposing Venus (ruling the 10th in the US chart) putting the squeeze on the leaders of this country, including bankers and in direct opposition to US Jupiter while traveling our 1st house, squeezing the psyche of the United States. We have been given a short clip of what's to come economically when Pluto does arrive into the 2nd house.

All this will bring good news and bad, with the two oil spills and the obvious need to shore up our infrastructure there will be jobs available for coastal workers, but the fishing industry is going to be greatly damaged. Makes me wonder what on earth we will eat with diseased cows, dying and oil drenched fish, and giving chickens to doctors in exchange for the delivery of our babies. We will pay a lot more at the pump so BP can recoup their sure to be massive losses. With it happening on a Mercury retrograde they can only dream of cleaning this up within 20 years.

Speaking of the "oil spill" they will find the equipment and repairs were shoddy work and they have known it for a long time. They've also known since Katrina that there were serious problems with the rig. One interesting thing is the tie in to the Exxon Valdez oil spill 20 years ago (still not completely cleaned up) The Exxon/Valdez ship ran aground with a drunken captain on March 24, 1989 at 12:04 am. The Sun at that time was at 3 Aries squaring the US Venus, but more important Uranus was at 5 Capricorn opposing the US Jupiter and transiting Pluto is in the exact place when this oil spill happened. This whole mess is big. Transiting Pluto opposing the US Jupiter is very big, much more than we've been told. Transiting Neptune conjunct the US Moon and conjunct Solar Arc US Venus and Jupiter. Jupiter and Pluto connections are called "the King Maker". Throw in the Moon with Neptune and you have the Mother of all oil spills, they are afraid to tell us. Someone told me that BP was trying to say the Volcano that went off in Iceland was the cause of this, I doubt that story. I would say to BP, "dig a little deeper and you'll find junk put into that rig as well as the grounding of it." This will cost them a bundle and the government (that's us) BP should start making a few calls to Halliburton.

This oil disaster has so many ties to most of the oil disasters affecting this country whether it's off-shore drilling, mining, or Texas Tea, so I am going to stop here rather than try to address all of them. All of the astro aspects I've mentioned among the transiting, progressed and Solar Arc and I haven't even gone to the Solar Return is the basis for all the other disasters hovering over this country, the Saturn/Uranus affects the world as will the T-Square between Pluto/Uranus/Saturn

But the US does get some extra punches.

Now directly to the economy, restrictions are coming to Wall Street as surely as the Sun does rise, the bankers as well, but the bankers will not be as graceful as Wall Street and the Wolves of Banking in Europe absolutely will not take it, here comes and goes "old Europe" financially and the US. How we make, receive and disseminate funds will be changed in the United States and I can assure you that the Wolves of Banking are thinking day and night how to get and control all the money in the world, including ours and shift the power to another area of the world, such as China or Africa. June and July and October will be dangerous months for Wall Street, or specifically stocks including Mutual Funds.

I don't know if any of you have ever had the amazing experience of seeing someone die (so much love in the room at that time) but we go through a process called Cheyne Stoking (named after one of my Scottish ancestors who researched the process in the early 1800's) The body goes through a breathing series where there is a deep intake of breath, and after several seconds a long exhale followed by another several seconds before the next breath. Those in the room hold their breath wondering if there will be another one or have they passed on. This is where religion (particularly the Catholic Church) big business, Congress, Wall Street, our financial system, and the two to five thousand year old process of corruption by what passes for leadership, we are watching Cheyne Stoking on this earth, and something new will be born in its place.

Several states will probably join Arizona in their terror of keeping their positions of being white and superior. Hating and killing African/Americans has lost its appeal right now, what with an African/White/American as our President, he is still the commander in chief with thousands of soldiers at his command

So the African/Americans are out as a group to fear, and hate and kill. Who else could there be, of course Hispanics.

Again, I do not see how this government could not come up with a good immigration bill to cover what's seen as a problem, and there isn't any doubt Arizona has suffered with that problem but from what I've heard Arizona has put a bill in place that isn't constitutional. We have the South wanting to re-fight the Civil War (they want a different outcome), T-baggers are focused on so many things; a new Revolution is one, also they want the KKK to be running the government, and get that Black man out of the White House, they will go to war on any of these issues. Arizona and perhaps a few others are trying to relive WWll and Mexico might be the people who start WWlll, aided by China and Russia. There is a whirlwind out there for the United States. I am reminded of the movie the In-Laws where these two men were being shot at in the desert and Peter Faulk keeps saying "serpentine, serpentine when you run" It was hilarious part of the movie, but now I'm thinking of it as dead serious.

As the extreme right keeps putting their candidates in place and an angry populous mobilizes to elect them, it won’t be long before this country is controlled by the far right a chilling thought. If you get a chance read Frank Rich's column this week “Arizona isn’t the Real Problem”

My hope is this country stops looking back at the way things 'use to be” and look forward to the way things "could be", because the "use to be" is gone if not forever, for a very long long time. Our Aries 4th house cusp could give the US the impetus to work for what we believe in with some success. After all both Uranus and Jupiter will conjunct that 4th house cusp very soon. As history shows us, when this country feels attacked they will fight, my prayer is that the people won't feel attacked by things like Health Care and services for the people.

Dear oh dear, where are the Indians to help guide this present day civilization as it crumbles, just as theirs crumbled? Oh right, we crumbled theirs.

I am an eternal optimist and I believe there is a reason for all this that will lead to positive outcomes, maybe not in all of our lifetimes but it will happen. When I thought I was done with child bearing, my youngest child being three I found out I was pregnant with a fourth child. I was almost 37 and I shook for three days after the news. Didn't know what I was going to do, I had plans for my life when my youngest got into kindergarten and they didn't include another baby. But here I was having another baby. I was frustrated and felt trapped, I wasn't thrilled and my marriage was crumbling to boot. One day I woke up and thought "well, this is where you are and you will make the best of this situation, it's not the baby's fault that your plans have gone off the rails. I've never regretted having him, he was a delight and a support in my life. It all turned out much better that I could have dreamed. Of course there were challenges along the way with all of them, big challenges, including my marriage falling completely apart, but I kept putting one foot in front of the other, I kept doing the best I could to support us and keep everyone happy.

That's the way I look at this country today, just keep putting one foot in front of the other and handle each challenge as it comes along with as much energy and love and strength I can gather to me to put out there for others in my life. I know all of you are doing the same and we will survive.

Comments (56)

Morgana [TypeKey Profile Page]:

Sally,

I really enjoyed reading that Frank Rich article, the madness is spreading.

You just made me think maybe Americans should be looking to old Europe on the people level since they seem to have survived the chaos in their countries.

We got our tomatoes planted this weekend. I always feel better when I get some sunshine, lifts my mood, energizes my spirit.

I loved your article it helps us comprehend our current environment so we can put one foot before the other. It's pretty insane out there.

clymela [TypeKey Profile Page]:

Thank you, dear Sally. What a powerful article. Haven't read the Frank Rich article but I will. I loved reading you and "hearing" your voice again.

qop [TypeKey Profile Page]:

Bravo Sally, You have woven a complex group of aspects and situations together wonderfully.

I bring some sunlight to the dire circumstances we face. People around here are pretty light hearted..........pulling together as a community ( the whole State) teabaggers are the wallflowers at the party. Early spring and the best weather in the country didn't hurt!

I attended the 6th anniversary party of The Commons in Eastport yesterday.
http://www.thecommonseastport.com/
( read about the founding Women) They gave out awards for community building.........One to Katies on the Cove, a candy shop started in 1982, with a $10.00 windfall ( for the license) and food ingredients from food stamps, now flourishing.
http://www.katiesonthecove.com/and Katies partner received the award for creating the "Positivity Zone".
Here the Native Americans are not vanquished, but standing tall helping pull together a workable society. Dillon a N American 6th grader, went to DC, with the Youth Leadership Council. ( as did my Grandaughter in NY state several years ago, her Father was able to pay for it)) but Dillon's Grandmother put together all the funds she had and then turned to the school and community for the help. They came through for Dillon.
Another Native American Woman & her Son are renovating the Blue Iris restaurant to open at the end of the month.
She is going to connect me with Donald Soctomah
tribe historian, and author of this book......

http://www.tilburyhouse.com/childrens/remember-me.htm
He will be able to tell me about the beach down the road from me.
I guess we have hit bottom a while back, and are finding creative, entrepreneurial ways to rebuild our society up here.
Could it be because Maine's Pluto Chiron are 27 & 28o of Pisces, in the 10th house, with Uranus dancing over them for a while, & Jupiter headed full tilt towards us? The Uranus aspects the NN & Saturn at 1o & 2o past the 00o Aries point. I hope Saturn means structure rather than limitations. "As goes Maine, so goes the nation!"
QOP,W,C

qop [TypeKey Profile Page]:

Uh.I read the book review after I posted.
"Remember Me is a wonderful story that describes not only the magic and mystery of our ancestral homeland but the giving nature of our elders."
—David Moses Bridges, Passamaquoddy master canoe builder.

"This lovely book captures, in both words and images, the growing friendship between the young boy who would become the 32nd president of the United States and Tomah Joseph, a Passamaquoddy elder and canoe guide.

Timmy J [TypeKey Profile Page]:

Sally, thank you for the overview and encouragement. As a social worker, knowing my job may go away, I've had my nose in fiance for months, preparing. My little boat/home has been continually prepped since Y2K. Recently I added beeswax candles as I've learned they burn at about 3500 degrees with little toxicity...For you gardeners, with the honey bee collapse, mason bees are the new ticket.

With the Gulf oil problem it feels like the US is becoming a Russian novel. How many millions will have to move north? Perhaps with the multi-generational households resurgence conversation will become popular again. I've recently come accross a great book for improving conversation called " From Debate to Dialogue : Using the Understanding Process to Transform Our Conversations" by Deborah Lynn Flick. We need this skill

Sally, you are welcome for the REIKI info. I have two goals along those lines: Repair nerve damage, and replace the good stuff lost between joints...Nameste

Morgana [TypeKey Profile Page]:

From Sally -


Joanna, both of your posts were excellent and I enjoyed reading them very much. The first few paragraphs of Matthew made me wonder if he was reading astrology. The Dolphin story was just what you said “creepy and fascinating.” Oh and I am doing fine, good in fact and I am going to find someone who can do reiki on the hypothalamus.

Timmy J your preparations are impressive, wish I had been as focused the last ten years and taken my own astrological advice. I made myself too busy helping others prepare, not that it was a mistake, I just needed to put myself on that list, now I am.

Clymela, I am so glad you are feeling better and it’s wonderful to hear your soothing voice on the blog. Did your son ever get paid?

Qop, your posts are always filled with such wonderful visionary information. Lots can be learned by what you post, lots of omens in what you see or hear.

Karen, I so agree about Corker, I cannot even stand to hear him talk, he is odious to say the least and I will bet on him being a back-stabber

And Morgana, dear Morgana what a blessing your writings are and your thoughts.

Love you all

qop [TypeKey Profile Page]:

Oh here is a DELICIOUS OMEN!
Unification Church will put Washington Times up for sale
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/30/AR2010043002043.html

"The finances are so tight that the newspaper hasn't paid some of its bills or tended to basic maintenance issues -- such as hiring an exterminator to deal with mice and snakes sneaking into the building on New York Avenue in Northeast.

"The feeling everyone feels is that it's a totally rudderless ship," said Julia Duin, the paper's longtime religion reporter. "Nobody knows who's running it. Is it the board of directors? We don't know. There was a three-foot-long black snake in the main conference room the other day. We have snakes in the newsroom -- the real live variety, at least. One of the security people gallantly removed it."

["Snakes & Spiders, the animal totems of the Goddesse's mysteries, still bring up irrational terror. The snake is linked as the perpetrator of evil in the Garden of Eden,and the spider is the harbinger of hideous death...........snip
As we revision the dark, it is the dark slice within each of the dark moon teachings, that also needs to be divested of FEAR."..... Demetra
George.....Mysteries of the Dark Moon]

"The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself." FDR. ( taught by the Passamaquoddy Guide
Thomah Joseph)

clymela [TypeKey Profile Page]:

Sally,thank you even more!! The words of our friend group is the best medicine. The "sound" of each voice is so soothing.
Morgana-the money problem was with my "constant companion" and yes finally the money is walking to the mail boxes.
Last night I watched "The Brightest Guys In The Room" about Enron. Oh my shingles!! how upsetting. I had forgotten-that Enron went bankrupt and then 9/11 and then California got Schwarzeneggar-I am convinced again of the attempt to take over the world. I know in my heart that Schwarzenegger was put into place to destroy California and the State employees pension fund. I imagine I am part crackpot here.
I am going to start making sauerkraut/kimchee today. I am learning all that draws my attention toward living a strong simple life whether the growing or the fermenting,etc.
QOP-Demetra George is one of my favorites and thank you for referring to her-healing and enlightening.
Love and light to all of you. Really your voices and consciousness is sooo healing to me.

clymela [TypeKey Profile Page]:

Sally-specifically I loved your words on Hawking and aliens. I so agree that we have no idea where "we" are looking. Is this the beginning? is this the end? Jeez!! we really don't know but wow what beauty what a gift we are part of "All That Is"!!
I have never been really interested in "aliens" but as I have matured the thought of "other mansions, other rooms" seems natural to me.
I don't worry about getting creamed by higher forms of life. Seems that the lower consciousness of the money boys (that term covers females as well)as they build their towers,roads,vehicles, weapons, chemicals. Much closer to home to this Mars,Venus in Taurus rising woman.

karen [TypeKey Profile Page]:

Another gift to us! Ah. Thank you, Sally.

I do not quite remember which book in the series, but Carlos Constenada wrote of sitting with Don Juan in a park. Carlos was in an altered state. Don Juan was teaching him to recognize the difference in etheric bodies -- the difference between humans and "others."

I remember feeling the truth of many observations such as the above regarding other species on this planet. I'm quite sure our native brothers and sisters were aware of the same, since they took great pains to describe what a HUMAN being was.

We have abused the term Human, been drugged on all the frivolity we seem to hanker for. We have fits if, like children fed a diet of sugar, we can't have our way.

We recently became beekeepers. My husband has studied, and read become a loving mother -- even to a Queen. (He likes women!) He shared a story about agri-business. Habitually, they bring in bees to pollinate the crops. After the crops are pollinated they spray the crops for insects. Meaning, all the bees are killed.

qop [TypeKey Profile Page]:

I want to see Rev. Moon's birth certificate! & Green card!
Lest we have forgotten.............
http://baltimorechronicle.com/2010/050110Parry.shtml

A SPECIAL REPORT:
How Rev. Moon's 'Snakes' Infested US
by Robert Parry
Originally published in ConsortiumNews.com earlier today, 1 May 2010

clymela [TypeKey Profile Page]:

OH!!qop! absolutely let us see the green card and everything. What a monstrous personality: Rev Moon is wicked and twisted and why isn't that spoken of by the good holy people?? I was shocked speechless the first time I heard that he presents himself as the new Jesus!! For this old Christian woman those words were shocking and the fact that he has not been rebuked is even more frightening,

clymela [TypeKey Profile Page]:

Okay!! Furious as I am with Obama I wonder at the push to tie the spill around his neck as "Obama's Catrina". Just saw a headline at Huffington "He was warned!!" UHH yeah we are all warned and feared this but there we are. Decisions were made before he came on board,even before he was mature enough to run as President that have resulted in this segment of our national nightmare.
I find this movement disgusting coming from those who love Dick Chaney who never saw a needy orphan he couldn't use to stoke the fires of Hell. Just saying.
OH!! and.. love and light to all of you.

terri [TypeKey Profile Page]:

One of your best articles!

Meanwhile, thought you might all be interested in this NYT article, where Mother Nature also fights back against Monsanto and GMOs. While we the people will have to deal with the ramifications, it's nevertheless delicious to see Monsanto really worried, and farmers having to go back to their old methods.
The article unfortunately also tries to portray the use of weedkillers as being environmentally-friendly because there is less soil tilling.

Farmers Cope With Roundup-Resistant Weeds
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/04/business/energy-environment/04weed.html

joannaoregon [TypeKey Profile Page]:

Clymela! You GO girl! And, terri, it's a HOOT that there are ALWAYS unintended happenings when the Boyz think they have their beans all in a row. Left-brain-only stupids.

joannaoregon [TypeKey Profile Page]:

* Heckuva muddle

The other day I watched Obama give a statement about the Times Sq bombing while standing on LA soil, there to assess the disaster in the Gulf, and wondered if he was still eager for his job. On a daily basis, I give thanks that this guy stepped up to be the Adult that keeps calm in the face of systemic dissolution and country-wide hysteria. I don’t know how he does it but THAT he does, seems like the life preserver floating on the fouled Nat'l water. The alternative chokes my breath off — I say it often, but it still makes my hair stand on end to imagine McCain and Palin in charge of our national good, mucking up our emergencies with their delusional ideology and cynical me-me-me grandstanding.

Every branch of govt — the Executive, the Congress and the Judicial — are involved in tracking the Gulf disaster and providing mop-up, and they wasted no time getting there. The conspiratorial cry that Obama caused all this in order to pander to the environmentalists is so absurd it makes you want to subject some of yer fellow citizens to psychological testing. And who’s accusing Obama of “deliberately delaying response so that the disaster could worsen?” ... http://polwaves.planetwaves.net/

clymela [TypeKey Profile Page]:

Heard someone yesterday,somewhere in the media refer to lizard people. Or rather I think the term used was reptilian. My ears stood up-this was a straight person using the term not one of "us".

Marta [TypeKey Profile Page]:

Sally! What a fabulous read you gave us. Thank you!!!!!

Crystal [TypeKey Profile Page]:

Hello all, been busy with what lifes' been throwing at me, so I haven't been keeping up with the blogs, but I see that Sally has written another article, which I shall read soon. Hope you're doing good Sally - you are always in my thoughts. I was researching the upcoming Jupiter-Uranus conjunction, and came upon this man as one of many who had a Jup/Uranus aspect in their charts (including Einstein). I remembered his name from way back when I was studying philosophy, but never read any of his works, but now just in time for the new paradigm that is being ushered in, since his name came up again, I decided to take a look at his account of the spirit world. If even you don't believe in heaven/hell/God, it is a fascinating read, but his account of things seem feasible to me. Check out his profile on Wikipedia first, so you'll have an idea of his background. If you decide to read any of his publications, please download it to your computer first, so as not to tie up Sally's or the website's bandwith. Here is a link to one of his publications, and his publisher's website for further reading of his other works.

http://www.newcenturyedition.org/HH_Translation.pdf

http://www.swedenborg.com/page.asp?page_name=complete_works

joannaoregon [TypeKey Profile Page]:

Good morning, Seestas!

* More solar for Florida - These are some of the 90,000 panels that make up Florida Power & Light's Next Generation Solar Plant in DeSoto County. A bill passed in the Florida House would encourage the development of more solar plants http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20100429/OPINION/4291039/-1/newssitemap

joannaoregon [TypeKey Profile Page]:

" ...So the African/Americans are out as a group to fear, and hate and kill. Who else could there be, of course Hispanics. ..." And just WHO is doing the "fear, and hate and kill." You guessed it! Poor pinkie boyz per usual.

Now that's a fun term. Hispanics as far as I've been able to discover are Native Americans who had already been f*k'd over by the pinkie vatican/spanish. The "Hispanics" belong in this hemisphere, not european pinkie johnny-come-very-latelies. TaHA! Proof again of the saying best defense is a terrific offense... or mebbe not. I do know that the gospel stories he creates in his piddly lil left-brain-haid are pure baloney with terrible consequences for Gaia & everybody else. I daresay there'll be plenty more oil spills on top of the ones we didn't even get to hear about or the ones to come.

Crystal [TypeKey Profile Page]:

Enjoyed reading your article, Sally. I see you haven't lost your feisty sense of humor, or your pluck. I love that movie "The In-Laws". Watch it every time it comes on TV - hilarious. I live close to the central Gulf coast in FL, and they've already made preparations to minimize damage to the coast from the oil spill - don't know how well that will work. I share the same MC/IC axis with the US chart, so waiting to see what other upheaval it brings into my life - might be moving soon, so that will be one event. Hope you're hanging in there Sally......always nice to have you back.

NEOBuckeye [TypeKey Profile Page]:

Wonderful article, Sally! Good to see that you are still hanging in there.

Sally McDonald [TypeKey Profile Page]:

Maybe I am finally in

joannaoregon [TypeKey Profile Page]:

I suddenly remembered once again how much I needed relief from Difficult World... seem to always forget that Easy World is much much closer! http://www.juliarogershamrick.com/articles.html

joannaoregon [TypeKey Profile Page]:

A wonderful writing, Miss Sally.

Crystal [TypeKey Profile Page]:

Thanks for the link to Julia's website JoannaO - I had forgotten about her! Very, very wise advice. Hope you are coping well Joanna - always glad to see you here - so refreshing :)

joannaoregon [TypeKey Profile Page]:

This is fun from astrotabletalk. http://astrotabletalk.blogspot.com/

joannaoregon [TypeKey Profile Page]:

Thanks, Crystal! And you, too!

* A Greek Tragedy

There is something profoundly apocalyptic in tone when the cradle of Western culture experiences the first paroxysms of economic collapse; a short foray into the astrology of the national map of Greece is therefore potentially illuminating. This will not be an exhaustive study, however, the Cardinal transits which we are currently experiencing are fraught with tension which will have profound and long-lasting impacts upon individuals and nations alike, and certain conclusions may be drawn for Greece, and too for other nations. ... http://chirotic.wordpress.com/

joannaoregon [TypeKey Profile Page]:

I'm beginning to detest the word "apocalyptic."

joannaoregon [TypeKey Profile Page]:

But if the word "apocalyptic" means the demise of pink boyz only world, I'm all for it.

clymela [TypeKey Profile Page]:

joannaoregon-thank you for the link to astrotabletalk.com. Apolyptic is a word that indeed should only be used rarely. Myself since the rulers of the world have been from the West this time I suggest that 8/6/1946 was the date of the Apocolypse and we are now living through the 100 years of war that will be followed by a new reign of peace and we will love it. How else to explain the movie "Med Who Look At Goats"and all the drugs and germ warfare and wealthy children bankrupting entire nations? I mean really!!

clymela [TypeKey Profile Page]:

Oh Whoops!! Please read "Men Who Stare T Goats"

joannaoregon [TypeKey Profile Page]:

teehee

joannaoregon [TypeKey Profile Page]:
joannaoregon [TypeKey Profile Page]:

* Thom Hartman blog on email

The Brits...No Diebold!

Britain's opposition Conservatives got more votes than either Labour or the Liberal Democrats in the UK's parliamentary elections yesterday, although those two left-wing parties together got well over half of all votes cast, leading to speculation that Liberal Democratic leader Nick Clegg will lead his party to form a ruling coalition with Labour's Gordon Brown, keeping Brown in the position of PM.

During the campaign, Clegg had advocated changing Britain's electoral system from one where local people vote for the local party that will present its candidate to Parliament, to a more standard proportional representation system where local votes are replaced with a nationwide vote, with each party getting a number of seats in parliament in proportion to the percentage of the national vote it got.

Clegg also said that he'd give whichever party got the most votes would be the first he'd work with, and right after the election results were in, he reached out to the Con's David Cameron implying that if Cameron would embrace his proportional representation changes, he'd support Cameron for PM.

The Cons, however, don't support these changes - and neither does Labour. Which will make the next few mos very interesting as kingmaker Clegg keeps pushing for this.

The entire nationwide vote, by the way, was done on paper. No voting machines in the UK. No Diebold. No Kathleen Harrises or Ken Blackwell.

And TV ads for candidates or parties are banned in the UK, so the election lasted only a few weeks and very little money was spent on it.

We could learn some lessons from the Brits.

clymela [TypeKey Profile Page]:

Happy Mother's Day all m others and those who love mothers.
joannaoregon-thank you for that Thom Hartman blog. I wonder how far things will have to go before we return to real ballots and real counts of the ballots.
Things are looking bad here in the San Francisco Bay Area with a disgusting parade in support of the US flag in one of the wealthiest, most privileged suburbs. This brought on by Cinco de Mayo.http://uktodaynews.com/4469/morgan-hill-tea-partiers-rally-in-support-of-live-oak-high-school-students/.
I was ashamed to see these well clothed folk hating on the people who clean their big houses and manage their large lawns.

Crystal [TypeKey Profile Page]:

More food for thought - looks like 2010 is going to be the start of the rough period ahead......prepare ye, and the guy who wrote the article, doesn't even realize that there is a lunar eclipse on one of the dates he's talking about (June 26), plus the total solar eclipse on July 11th...yea. A lot of spiritual enlightenment will be accompanying the disasters, me thinks.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/17388684/2010-the-Year-of-the-Volcano

joannaoregon [TypeKey Profile Page]:

Hmmmm... are there anything but disasters?! Guess not.

Morgana [TypeKey Profile Page]:

Elena Kagan April 20 1960 NY,NY boy we need a time for her, Noon gives her a 0 Taurus 36

http://morganaseawalker.com/ElenaKagan.jpg

Interesting chart.

Morgana [TypeKey Profile Page]:

Hi Crystal that link is interesting worth taking a good look at and I'd like to research the astrologer....a tad too much drama, blood and gore.

Disasters seem to be a way of life, eh joannaoregon? Jaw dropping isn't it?

There is so much at play, long running transits with the outer planets and they are kicking the worlds butt not just the USA'ian. Anyway I am looking for how we can use all the negative signatures for a positive result. The Gulf Oil Spill is humongous! These spoiled greed oil boyz may have toasted not on the Gulf Coast, but that oil gets caught up in a loop current right into the Gulf Stream and bye bye fishing economy along the East Coast, along with tourism, property values...texas tea party.

I am so sick of the GOP and their right-wing nut racists. I refuse to listen to them, I've taken to muting KO and Rachel when they have clips of any of these nuts jobs, just can't stand to hear their insanity. Soon as McConnell's pasty white slack-jowled face comes on the screen pop mute, Cantor, Boner, yuck... So I am reduced to reading their crapola so I can stay aware of how far their sick headedness is spreading. They are everywhere stirring hate and division.

Then I realized we will survive them and they can all be damned to the hell of their choosing.

joannaoregon [TypeKey Profile Page]:

* SaLuSa 10-May-2010

You know that open contact with you is inevitable, and only held back until there is an official announcement that allows us to come to you. As matters on Earth reach new levels of disruption and indicate worse predicaments than previously, we hear your pleas for us to arrive more quickly and give immediate help. We are ever at the ready, but we ask that you continue to give out your thoughts and prayers for release from the maelstrom that threatens you. The more you build up the energy of intent that we should come; it will help manifest conditions that will result in such action. It is tied in with the Law of Attraction, and as individuals or collectively you get what you focus upon. Suddenly you are seeing so much happening at once and the truth is emerging all around you, and there is an awareness of what is behind it. The once hidden is being revealed and as long as you can spot the disinformation, you will get a clearer picture of the direction of Mankind. Nothing will ever be quite the same, and it is not in your interests to return to the old paradigm. ... http://www.treeofthegoldenlight.com/First_Contact/mike_quinsey/channeled%20messages/May%202010/salusa__10may2010.htm

karen [TypeKey Profile Page]:

Morgana, i've been doing the same thing. The intentional visciousness is criminal. Their coalition is the mob arm of government. Instilling fear is their speciality.

The ongoing oil fiasco (begun during a particularly nasty Mercury retro) will not be cleaned up OR stopped anytime soon. It is a disaster of epic porportions. Great swaths of land will now become uninhabitable. Primary agricultural areas will be gone in a blink. Potable water contamination will occur, as well as airborn contamination lethal to small children.

What is the quote about 1/3 of the water, 1/3 of the species??????

clymela [TypeKey Profile Page]:

Karen- I so agree with you. I wept in the first days of the "spill". The thought I had was that "we" hit our mother in a vein. I knew from the beginning that this is the beginning of the end of "Western Civilization" and the end of life as we have known it. I hate the way the talking heads and business people discuss this on the TV, Morgana, but I continue to listen although i am turning the TV off more often although I then turn on the radio-I am I fear a true addict for noise.
Love to everyone.Please send healing strength and support for two of our kittens who are going for their "procedure" today-they turn 9 months old on Saturday and have been "marking" my stuff for a couple of months now. Will have the more immature boy go on my birthday 5/25-when we will have the money for the third procedure.

Grizzly [TypeKey Profile Page]:

Great article from Sally. Wow, do we live in interesting times. If mother nature doesn't get us first, either the right wing loonies or the cabal of international banksters surely will.

Hi Clymela, I too absolutely cannot stand to look at people like McConnell, Kantor, etc. either,
they are absolute from under a rock caricatures for the banality of evil just now.

I don't post here anymore (sorry, but I'm pissed off at Morgana for promising to do my chart over a year ago and then totally ignoring both me and my several follow up requests to actually do it; sorry but no matter the excuse a promise should always be fulfilled!!)

Anyhow I've been regularly reading Steve Judd,
Richard Noelle from Astropro, Clif High from Half Past Human, James Kunstler, Les Visible from Smoking Mirrors, Nancy from Starlight News, Sally whenever she posts,etc., and from these widely divergent individuals, combined with just being alive, awake, and watching things, yes, I too think we are on the cusp of momentous changes which might very possibly irrevocably alter life as we currently know it(of course who knows exactly what forms the changes and final results will actually take??)

I think from a man made point of view the recent Greek debt crisis is just the proverbial tip of the iceberg, as the one billion euro bailout package is just kind of a joke, as it is like putting a bandaid on a shotgun blast wound. After only one day of an upswing, the markets are again skeptical.

I think by my birthday of August 17th there will be some really dramatic 'game changing' developments related to sovereign debt; perhaps even several major banks and/ or country defaults, etc.

Morgana [TypeKey Profile Page]:

Hello Grizzly,
Yes when someone tries to guilt me or bully me in their 2nd email I blow them off. End of discussion. I will get to your chart eventually.

Morgana [TypeKey Profile Page]:

I'm just catching up on the news of the day. Did anyone get the time for Gordon Browns resignation, and Cameron taking possession of 10 Downing Street?

Any way here is the noon chart for London. Mercury is still retrograde.

http://morganaseawalker.com/EngMay112010.jpg

joannaoregon [TypeKey Profile Page]:

* Three of Nine

Here’s Very Good News — the Senate has voted to audit the Fed 96-0. Those Pub’s know their Tea Baggers. Goes to show we never know exactly what will work in our favor! Which bring me to the topic of the day.

Elena Kagan is going to fill the news for the next several months — we’ll learn more about this cypher than we ever wanted to know — so we’d best examine her particulars now. She’s most assuredly not my dream girl but I understand why she’s Obama’s selection. She’s an insider pick, and altho the confirmation will be an ugly affair and protracted by the GOP’ers, who hope to burn time and legislative opportunity with this process, she will sail thru — barring some scandal the Pubs can create, and of course they’ll try.

Last night, Charlie Rose had a small group of know-it-all’s discussing Kagan, of whom they approved, and one mentioned that this duty is likely the one Obama savors the most — interviewing SCOTUS candidates. This is his ‘area’ … and with Kagan, he has someone who is brilliantly skilled at shifting outcomes. Her opportunity to do that, of course, can only come with seniority but she’s a mere babe at 50 which gives her plenty of time to exert influence.

Kagan is Solicitor General of the US, and her previous vetting through Congress is both helpful to this process and problematic for Senators Orin Hatch who supported her and Arlen Specter who didn’t. Her background is stunningly impressive considering she’s not one of those ’silver spoon’ folks — she joins Obama and Sotomayor as middle class success stories and taught at the U of Chicago where she developed a friendship with the Prez. Elena attended Princeton and Oxford and received her law degree from Harvard U, where she later served as dean of the law school. She was Associate Counsel to Clinton’s White House. ... http://polwaves.planetwaves.net/

Obama’s selection of a female candidate was not necessary, as was deemed last time, but optional. The Court has never had three women seated before — in fact, if confirmed, Kagan would only be the fourth woman in its history. That runs counter to the Old White Guy meme, so that’s progressive.

There are culture war tidbits to consider and you never know who will step up to make a big deal out of them [but trust that someone will]:

She’s single — the gay folk want her to come out and so do the anti-gay folk, licking their chops. This is all speculation with no apparent indicators and I think it’s one more bit of self-righteous psychobabble that we insist on divining this woman’s sex life based on nothing more than appearances. If she’s straight, what’s she supposed to do? Announce that she’s a spinster?

As a single woman, she’s childless — which threatens Dominionists and strikes at the heart of a nation preoccupied with a woman’s right to choose versus her duty to bare children. We are not so far removed from the accepted meme that a woman’s uterus should be a production line. I think of this as the ‘broodmare effect’ that paternalism has pounded into our very bones. Not everyone needs to or SHOULD become a mother. I can show you countless examples of that here in the Pea Patch, believe me.

She’s Jewish — which would bring the SCOTUS demographics to six Catholics and two Jews. Sixty years ago that would have been impossible in Protestant America … but Kagan would replace the last protestant justice.

While Kagan has worked for two Democratic presidents and argued before the Supreme Court, she is not a judge. 40 of 111 Justices had no experience at the bench and it’s only in these last couple of decades that we’ve filled SCOTUS with seated judges. Many in both parties have been opposed to this kind of isolationism but it looks like the Pubs will make much of it. They’ll make much of everything. As Senator Leahy said, Obama could’ve nominated Moses, and Republicans would be asking for his birth certificate.

joannaoregon [TypeKey Profile Page]:

Ewwww didn't mean to post all that esp w/o the addie. http://polwaves.planetwaves.net/

joannaoregon [TypeKey Profile Page]:

* Thom's blog

Banksters and their Giant Casino

The Financial Times is reporting that European lawmakers are working hard to push through legislation for more regulatory oversight of the hedge fund industry, despite Britain's new govt begging to hold off.

The French and Germans (not to mention the Greeks!) have had it with a few dozen banksters in NY and London using naked CDO swaps as bets against European country's treasuries - their debt - with nothing to back up those bets.

The banksters have been playing "Heads I win, tails you lose" ever since Phil and Wendy Gramm - with the help of Bill Clinton and Newt Gingrich - blew open Wall St in 1999 and 2000, turning it into a giant casino.

Banksters in London and NY have extracted 100s of billions of dollars and pounds from investors over the past few years, and they want to keep robbing us in their legalized betting schemes.

American and British pols are now so addicted to ["their"] cash that they're afraid to stop them, so the job falls to the Germans and the French.

Pray for the success of these nations in stopping this cancer on our economies.

-Thom

joannaoregon [TypeKey Profile Page]:

I'm finally a fairly good grasp & closing the file on what pluto/leo brought us. But why did it have to be so awful. Bah! Humbug!

joannaoregon [TypeKey Profile Page]:

Mebbe pluto in cappie really is going to big-time clean out the gambling sag murdering antics

* OBAMA FUMING: President Blasts Oil Execs

WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama on Fri angrily decried the "ridiculous spectacle" of oil industry officials pointing fingers of blame for the catastrophic spill in the Gulf of Mexico and pledged to end a "cozy relationship" between the oil industry and fed regulators that he said had extended into his own adm. ... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/14/obamas-gulf-oil-spill-res_n_576530.html

joannaoregon [TypeKey Profile Page]:

How about this on the gigantic leach boyz. Remember when bushaholic/cheney 5-deferment and their oil cronies were writing up the "new" and secret USian energy policies?

* http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/14/obamas-gulf-oil-spill-res_n_576530.html

joannaoregon [TypeKey Profile Page]:

* Three weeks

Wearing his stern Daddy face, the Prez spoke today in the Rose Garden showing a flash of temper about the ‘ridiculous spectacle’ of big business finger-pointing over the Gulf spill. We’re three weeks in with no solution in sight. As much as 70,000 bLS a day — 10x the US Coast Guard’s original est and “the equivalent of one Exxon Valdez tanker every 4 days” — are surging into the ocean and this is what it looks like. The plume, itself, is drifting underwater and out of sight.

Yes, that’s right. We don’t know where it is or where it will end up and because we are unaccustomed to deep-level spills, we don’t know what havoc it will produce. We’ve seen the harm slicks do to wildlife and ecology. We simply don’t have the data to imagine what it might do to ALL life on this planet as it changes the primal mix in the depths of the sea.

In this situation we have one more example of “we’ve never done this before” and it’s being met with more nonchalance than is deserved. The British Petroleum CEO mentioned that this spill is “relatively tiny compared with the big ocean.” Amazing! Someone should wrench his financial report out of his greedy claws and explain to him that a bullet is also tiny compared to whatever it kills. ... http://polwaves.planetwaves.net/

joannaoregon [TypeKey Profile Page]:

* Farmers Cope With Roundup-Resistant Weeds

DYERSBURG, Tenn. — For 15 years, Eddie Anderson, a farmer, has been a strict adherent of no-till agriculture, an environmentally friendly technique that all but eliminates plowing to curb erosion and the harmful runoff of fertilizers and pesticides.

But not this year.

On a recent afternoon here, Mr Anderson watched as tractors crisscrossed a rolling field — plowing and mixing herbicides into the soil to kill weeds where soybeans will soon be planted.

Just as the heavy use of antibiotics contributed to the rise of drug-resistant supergerms, {USian] farmers’ near-ubiquitous use of the weedkiller Roundup has led to the rapid growth of tenacious new superweeds. ... http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/04/business/energy-environment/04weed.html

joannaoregon [TypeKey Profile Page]:

Mebbe those that think theyselves super gods are really super imps & devils... when they ram their pitchforks into Mother Nature find their forks rammed instead into their own stupid selves. I think so.

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