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Morgana, excellent article. You hit it out of the park!

Here's an interview with Gerald Celente which closely follows what you wrote.

http://market-ticker.denninger.net/

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Hi Marta, thanks for the kind words. I think it's a quiet AW day. Thanks for the link I'll check it out.

I'm on Facebook and saw it was Sally's birthday tomorrow, guys - just wanted to give you a head's up.

Happy Birthday Sally,
light love & healing.
And many more returns of the day!

Happy Birthday Sally, light love and healing, and many more returns of the day!

Let's see if I can just do 1!
Great article Morgana.............While I have been busy, I have not kept track, this is a good guide...............

Your grass-roots description was spot on, Morgana. The drama is steadily and speedily unfolding, revealing the web one strand at a time. Maybe one day we'll see the entire web, understand, and then take our leave our it. Maybe one day we'll value one another for no other reason than "we are all in this together." Now, the number of conditions we place upon one another have become so cumbersome the only way we can make our voices heard is to bank those pots and pans.

Sally, Sally, Sally. . .A Big GIANT HUG! on your birthday.

Best, best wishes Sally on your birthday! Be well!

Happy Birthday Sally!! and many MORE as we sing just before the cake and presents. Love to you and light and health and strength and power and riches.
Early morning news full of delight that Obama's ratings are below 50%. Morning Joe tickled "pink" that "white folk" don't like Obama.
Karen pray that we all reach that day when we love each other just because we are all in this together.
Morgana thank you so much and let us beat our pots and pans with love for each other.

And oh! Morgana just saw the opening line of your article. YEP!! you nailed it. That is just what I heard this morning-spitting angry folk blaming it all on that "Black Man in the White House". Yes you summed it up perfectly-ZING!!

Here's a great explanatory article on the Fed that I found on my files.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/analysis_mark_020503_money.html

Hi Clymela,
Morning Joe is such a racist pig. My problem is I blame it on the flaccid white/pink repuke boyz in the House and Senate, especially those "C Streeter's" who think they are chosen of God, and as the church lady would say, "isn't that special". Their corporate johns keep them jumping.

Absolutely agree,Morgana,Morning Joe is a racist pig and has plans for the rightwing takeover. He is quivering with excitement. As I have said I am concerned regarding that myself. As a society we seem to be reversing ourselves at the speed of light. I never thought I would hear the call to revolution and assassination that is allowed these days all evidently because we have a brown skinned man in charge.
The attack on women's health rights is part of this. Here in California if a woman gets pregnant≤ while on public assistance the state will not pay any money for that child. Now I ask you does this sound like "love for the unborn child"?
Seems to me that a sizable section of our society is so full of fear that we are ripe for a rightwing thrust. Also the Rush and Beck and now Sarah remind me too much of the stories from Rwanda,etc-the way people were set up to hate each other via the radio.

Real Grass Roots activity.
http://www.bangordailynews.com/detail/129550.html
11/16/09
Creative economy focus of Juice 2.0 conference in Camden

By Abigail Curtis

QOP that is Grass Roots at its finest. You were there right? What were your impressions?

It was just fabulous! A great big coming together from all over the state to connect and collaborate on what will move the Maine economy forward.
One breakout session was The Perfect Pitch........
Participants had 5 minutes to "pitch" a business idea...investment professionals offering feedback & advice......10 finalists, will compete in rounds 2 & 3 to win a $25,000 investment prize.
Other workshops dealt with energy efficient housing......affordable net zero housing.........
Maine foodies, technology........marketing...
If only the entire country could run with this, creativity, generousity of spirit, attitude, we would be just fine!
The Beehive Design COllective that threw that Blackfly Ball last summer, is held in high esteem throughout the state.
There was a panel of 10 candidates for next Governor.with meet & greet in the break room afterward. Needless to say I lassoed the most conservative ones and aired my liberal views.
AND THEY LISTENED! ( except the fusty old dude in the American Flag tie.....but he won't get to first base poll wise.
The contrast to the first Juice conference 2 years ago was stunning............that one was an airing of ideas that evolved into this very purposeful, well conceived gathering this year.
The prime speaker then, was Glen Cummings, once Speaker of the Me House NOW ARNE DUNCAN"S Ast. Dir of Ed.Nationally.
I will post more as we go forward.
I took the ideas & enthusiasm in a report to the Milbridge Art Guild meeting this morning. It jacked the meeting up several notches with inspiring ideas that we can do locally in the coming year.
Thanks Sally for directing me to the Starfish and the Spider, The Unstoppable Power of Leaderless Organizations
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Starfish_and_the_Spider
One of our group, ( MAG) googled it and sent out an e-mail to all, 1 hour after our meeting this AM.
It was very much the model for the Juice C Conference!

Oh and our local nursing home staff is still out there on the street picketing for higher wages.
They are holding out for one more point raise before settling.
2 weeks now, 8 or 10 of them.

QOP-thanks for the the update. Morgana you are so correct. QOP do you think this was possible in Maine because of the size-meaning not to overwhelming in population? Thanks for the link-maybe the garden people here can use some ideas to generate some "business".
Thanks for the the update on the staff at your local nursing home. The work they do is so important and so often they are exploited. Brave folk to actually walk out and make public their needs for better conditions. Hope that they get their lost earnings back in the agreement.

There is a long heritage of independent small businesss, in the state.
What could be more independant than fishing? You ONLY, are responsible for your well being out on the water, as well as how you proceed, brings a profit or Not. One or two people ( usually Father & Son or Brothers) ( the Starfish, non leadership model) are FULLY responsible for all decisions.
The same pertains to a small independant gift shop........or an Artist..what I decide to paint where I show it how I price & market it are all MY responsibility.
I think there is something drawing people to the state now to find this kind of experience.
Example: the sound artist from Mass. who bought a property here..........
When I first met him, he seemed a little puzzled as to the intuitive impulse that brought him here. Intuition brought hom into my GAllery and I directed him toward the MAG ( Milbridge Art Guild) Now he is designing a website for us teaching science to homeschooled kids, & fully on board with why he is here.
The Cobscook Community Learning Center
( Cobscook Bay Region is the THIRD POOREST CO IN THE US), working with a Downeast fisherman ( 3,4 generations back) The fish stock is dwindling and he was no longer making a profit, so he
collaborated with the CCBLC & CBC ( Cobscook Bay Company) went non-profit, and is working wih a reknowned chef, Sam Hayward, from Portland, to develop a lobster pie that can be frozen &, marketed world wide.......( increasing profit with reduced volume of the catch itself)
It all has me jumping with joy!
Yes size of population has something to do with it...we have been too small & too poor to attract the big player sharks!

Grass Roots at work in NJ..............
http://www.phillyburbs.com/news/news_details/article/25/2009/november/19/a-week-of-understanding.html

Thomas, Clemons, Tejpal and other students will get to experience life without shelter firsthand Saturday night during the college's first "Sleepout for Homelessness" at the Pemberton campus.

They will rely on sleeping bags and blankets to keep warm, Thomas said. Students also will hold a hunger banquet, at which they will be divided into socioeconomic groups and fed accordingly.

Happy Birthday Sally! And many, many, more birthdays to come....

Latest Message from Matthew

http://www.matthewbooks.com/mm/anmviewer.asp?a=114&z=2

Merriest of b'days to you, Miss Sally! Blessed Be with you always! Love Joanna

Happy birthday to you, Sally. Love and light and healing and health to you!

Remember Mark 'hiking the Appalachian Trail' Sanford, kaboom. Looks like SC lawmakers want to impeach this chosen of God.

http://tinyurl.com/ykbxuew

That was interesting...............I just plugged in my old IBook, to check it's internet access for the trip to the kids..................from Bookmarks, I got Sally's article The Granite Lady ( Pelosi) from April '07
Then I hit the update arrow & here I am! SOMETIMES technology is wonderful!

Reading FDL and people at Pull Up A Chair talking about family traditions for Thanksgiving and I started feeling sad. This year Thanksgiving will be with those in the house-everyone else is going out of town or going to family living somewhere else. In the past I always had huge dinners but this year is different. So I felt sad but Christmas is already shaping up for a crowd-I love to have the house full of people of all ages and backgrounds and interests-the wonderful conversations. When I write house realize that I am referring to a small two bedroom apartment with people sleeping everywhere including grand daughter in the living room closet that used to be my pantry.
So what is this of astrology? Don't know but it is about traditions and memories of those who have traveled on now and some who will return from travels and will be here for the celebration of winter.

Hi all,
The poisoning of the common people is continuing. Clymela might be interested in this, since it concerns SF. I just got his in my mail, but it looks like it already took place on Sep. 26th, so too late to sign the petition. It happens here too in FL, and I think it's very unhealthy - the use of toxic sewage sludge as fertilizer, and further outrage by referring to it as "organic". Probably responsible for outbreaks of e-coli as in the case of the contaminated spinach which was traced back to a farm (organic) in CA. So, it means that even our food supply that's labelled "organic", is being threatened. I think they really are trying to reduce the population by whatever means possible.

http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_19601.cfm

Back in the 80's, I lived with a man who had a lawn service, . He came home one day with a couple of bags of "experimental" sewer sludge. They warned him at Rutgers NOT to use it on vegetables........
because it was toxic!
Boy, did it grow fabulous flowers.................
Sounds intentional to me!

Wow toxic sludge as fertilizer. Really does reinforce growing your own. There are all kinds of growing contraptions for the apartment dweller. Who knows what we're getting in the big chain super markets.

Absolutely grow our own because we don't know what people are doing. These unconscious types feed dead cows to cows and dead chickens to chickens-they can't figure out what to do with the waste and so they want to feed it to us.
The other day I tried to eat a potato from Safeway and the poor little thing had absolutely no flavor. I mean it looked like a potato but it had no taste at all. I threw it away-I don't think that there was any nourishment there.
I am also worried about corporate agri-business moving into the health food area taking over the work and sweat of of those who want good food for their children but cannot really compete against Nabisco,etc.
HMMMM- Cancer "people" and Pluto in Capricorn?

Not one word of comment that today is the anniversary of Kennedy's brutal assassination in Dallas. I wonder why this is? Directing our cultural memories?

Perhaps, dear Clymela, everyone is just being super sensitive to winter solstice... which is, I think, the most mystical magical beautiful somber time of the solar round, when we, like enacting the Labyrinth, go deep within for renewal. The death of Pres Kennedy belongs to that collective "bag of experiences" as carried by The Fool of the Tarot. Been there; done that, says the collective soul... and time to Let Go. I don't think these things are premeditated but arise out of the deep.

Gosh, I love the Winter Solstice... and shall walk the Labyrinth on New Year's Day. Hope to see you all there.

Perhaps, Clymela, folks are just tuning in at a deep level, the time of winter solstice, the most mystical, somber, beautiful time of the yearly round imo. Old collective experiences in The Fool's bag shown in the Tarot are being let go... finally.

I can hardly wait to walk the labyrinth this New Year's Day. Hope to see you all there!

Ohps!

* The US Void Moon

I don’t know how I’d managed to miss the fact that the US Sibly Chart has a Void Moon, but it does. What that means is that the Moon makes no more major applying aspects until it changes sign. Applying aspects are stronger than separating aspects because they are gaining, rather than fading in strength; it’s like the difference between Spring and Autumn. ... http://astrotabletalk.blogspot.com/

This is from Sally she is having trouble logging on to AW:

Great great article Morgana, love it and you hit it out of the park this time. I watched Harry Reid give Landrieu and Lincoln a big hug just for voting to let health care reform (the biggest opportunity for the people in 40 years) come to the floor to be talked about. I guess that's our photo op to tell the people "see we are doing something" How can we get the message across that the "dumbing down" of the people are coming to an end, I guess when the teabaggers can get the message of what is really going on in America and the corporations.

A few minutes to mid-night on the 1st of Dec. Uranus comes to a screeching retrograde halt and begins his direct motion in Pisces, making Saturn through Pluto planets all direct, Dec. is going to be one interesting month pushing all kinds of agenda's (positive and negative) forward at rapid speed. Get all holiday preps done before the 20th when Mars goes Retrograde slowing down all our energy and increasing anxiety.

Joanna, thanks for the Matthewbooks and the Prison Planet Article on the Feds, I have collected so many articles on them all the way back to the real formation on Jekyll Island ( Nov. 22, 1910, Hoboken, NJ. 7:pm, the masters of the universe begin to put their intentions into motion) and they are experiencing some pretty interesting transiting and progressed aspects. A chiron return, Neptune on natal Chiron, Uranus square progressed Pluto and the mid-heaven. The Feds will wriggle out of their current auditing problems and some folks trying to find a way to break the Feds up, but this is just a strike, the blow won't be here for several years but the feds are on their way down and they know that. You will find banks playing nice across the world or (at least their concept of nice) or they will find themselves without a home and a new system taking over, like China is planning to do. I know the majority of the world thinks China is going to own us if they don't already, but keep your eyes on Africa as the next world financial power, I know it sounds unlikely but keep your eyes their none the less.

Don't underestimate the Jupiter conjunct Neptune running closer and closer over the next couple of months. What are your wishes, it is time to make a vision board, write (by hand) down what you really want, while obfuscation from our leaders (joke, joke, joke) will be rampant, dreams come true in a different way from what we think is rampant as well, make them yours.

Clymela, I am having the same kind of Thanksgiving and Christmas. First time all the kids haven't been here for Thanksgiving but still a big Christmas.

I want to thank everyone from the deepest part of my heart for your birthday good wishes. It means so much to me and all that love and light I believe is healing me, and I send it back with the prayer that it's healing you too. For all of us and for this country as well, the best quote I've heard is "where there is hope, there is possibility

But! Eric Francis is talking about Kennedy.

* Today in History, 1963: Shots in Dealy Plaza

Published by Eric Francis under Daily Astrology

The question of what exactly happened on Nov 22, 1963 persists, and it will until the govt releases the secrets that it’s been keeping all these years. We do have the astrological chart, however: one cannot hide the date and time of such a public event. If you’re an astrology student, memorize the data: 12:30 pm in Dallas. I have provided the chart below; in some ways it’s difficult to see what is going on. But as with the event itself, common sense has a way of prevailing. Or perhaps lies have a way of reeking in the approx scent of their own existence. ... http://planetwaves.net/pagetwo/

Good to see you post again Sally!

"...keep your eyes on Africa as the next world financial power, I know it sounds unlikely but keep your eyes there none the less."

Would that be South Africa? ...the huge area of the continent that the British pinks invaded and took over? Then same-old same-old same-old same-old. Nothing new there.

Sally so good to hear you again and to think about what you are sharing.
I really liked the idea of the wish board and I will take some time to sit down and plan what I would like to see.
Interesting the point about Africa because lately I have come across people from S.Africa on the internet.
joannaoregon-I think that you are right re Kennedy assassination: time to move on and most of the people running things now were very young or even not born 46 years ago.

Belated happy birthday Sally. According to the cycles of life, there are seven 52-day annual cycles. The first cycle which starts around your birthday, has the strongest energy, while the last 52-day period before your birthday, your energy field is at its lowest. There is an overlap of days between the last and first cycle, so you should have some good energy coming up during the next 2 months. Have a happy Thanksgiving, and funny you should mention Africa. This evening for the first time, I realized that there's an actual place called Timbuktu in Africa. It was on the news, apparently a new wing of Al Qaida is supposedly now operating there. It is in the republic of Mali, in West Africa. Wikipedia has a very interesting write up on it. The U.S. has just sold the government of Mali some military equipment to deal with the new (Al Qaida) threat. I just googled Mali, and found this article, so it looks like this will be the next place for some kind of covert or overt military action.

http://tinyurl.com/yj3wb7j

Sally, I agree that Africa's rise as a financial power seems unlikely, but is entirely possible in the years ahead. A few other astrologers have predicted the same or similar; among them, Palden Jenkins.

"Africa will move into a new phase after a crisis forcing resolution of matters of power and ethnicity. Within 50 years African nations could become cultural world-leaders..."
http://www.palden.co.uk/palden/pal-4tin.html

When you've been on the "bottom" for so long, there's no place to go but up. Helping this is the fact that China is currently pouring massive investments into Africa's infrastructure in exchange for their resources. When Africa gets up on its' feet, it will easily hold its' own with the other continental blocs now emerging.

I think where we're heading is a global society of a very different kind, but one that will be so much better than the failed corporatist dream now crashing to pieces.

I am turning in circles having just heard the gossip on Democracy Now that Obama is sending 34,000 troops to Afghanistan. I guess 34,000 just so he won't look like the military has him by the balls although we now know that they do and the Masters of the Universe own him and I guess have always owned him and everything he said during the campaign was just pillow talk.
I will never forgive him for this-wicked,wicked man who stole our hope and our future so that his little girls will grow up privileged and hidden away from our dirty streets-he is absolutely NO different than Daddy Warbucks Clinton.
I can not believe this and no one reports on the effects of depleted uranium and all the horrible gases and diseases created by our brightest children to dump on those of brown skin and who do not speak English. OHHH! I do believe that the wrath of all the HIGH Orders will come down on us for all our death dealing aactions beginning with stealing this land from the original people who lived here for such a long time with out destroying the land-we have destroyed everything in 500 years-WOW!!.
Okay I guess this is too much rage but I want everyone to know what this government is up to not matter Democratic or Republican.

From Sally:

Morgana puts these up for me until my IT Son gets back from his vacation and can untangle my AW issues and I can get back on. I am not swearing yet, but close. SALLY CHEYNE MCDONALD’S POST AND A BIG THANKS TO MORGANA

I have long felt Neo that what was coming (after the turmoil) would be much better than the “dying choking greedy corporate feudal” system they’ve had in place for the last several hundred years, in fact a couple of thousand years at least. First however we will have to endure their attempts to gain control over all the world. Who works, who lives, who dies, who is of value, who gains and who loses. Joanna is right, the European, the descendents of the Vikings are not going to give up power and control and money easily even if we are all brown by that time. South Africa would be the same old same old. Read up on Norway, they are a very powerful country and orders still issue from their government for everyone else. I still say it’s we the people around the world that have to give up feeling like we are their victims. We outnumber them. I do see some grand signs however, we are losing our fear of their fear with which they try to blanket us. We the people, are getting stronger around the world.

This is an excellent article by Alex Miller on the Daykeeper Journal. He works mostly with Black Holes and small planets aspecting our Universe and Planets. This article is on Eris aspecting the US Chiron, Mars and Neptune. Eris doesn’t try to solve havoc, but to create and keep havoc and anger going.

http://www.daykeeperjournal.com/2009/11/minor-planet-watch/eris-conjunct-usa-chiron Well worth the read and it is right on what’s happening and has been happening since 1997 and the Clinton Chronicles

Thank you Morgana for your service and thank you Sally for your service and for your words and thoughts which are so timely this morning.
I am looking forward to reading the materieal on Eris. this new part of astrology is something I am looking forward to.
Yesterday I came across someone referring to the trend to only use classical astrology and how that binds us in the past. I could tell you a story one time about paying one of the so-called classical astrologers who recognizes only the traditional planets and aspects. Well she was fascinated about what a terrible mess I am which one would get to if one never looked the trans-Saturnian planets nor at the quincunx or quintiles-oh well for another day.

And lest we forget, USia is ALSO another land mass the British pinks invaded and grabbed for themselves... tho their brothers chased out the johnny-comelatelies... sort of.

Clymela, you go girl! Ha!

Mebbe Eris is the goddess of the Pink Boyz. Yes, I think that's so.

Sally-thank you so much for the leadership directing us to "read up on Norway". I have just gone to "wikipedia"and am fascinated by what I am finding out. My ignorance here is stunning to me-I knew nothing about Denmark and have had my little pea brain turned to Denmark due to the fascist grumblings that have made our very narrow media take note.
I am excited to have a new project-researching Norway. One thing that caught my thinking right away is Norway is the perfect retort to the right wing Christians-fair play for everyone and yet they prosper!! WHEE!!!
Thank you so much for this and for your thoughts regarding our need to get over thinking that "they" are going to get us.
I don't know how the Norwegians are racially or ethnically but I did pick up a hint that they like to direct things economically.
Do you have any suggestions of books that have been especially interesting on this subject?

Oh brother I have been writing and cooking and talking and then posted without any editing.
Please forgive my sloppiness. As you can see I continue to have Norway and Denmark mushed up in my thoughts.

Yea, verily, Clymela; I've come to think that the rabid pink boyz exodus to the south left women & gentle thotful men in that country of the far north to reproduce... which enabled them to be very progressive. Just a theory.

Clymela, looks like you're not the only one who has arrived at the same conclusion re: Obama

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Obama-s-Declining-Populari-by-Rabbi-Michael-Lern-091124-904.html

Marta-thank you for the link to Rabbi Michael Lerners article which goes more deeply and succinctly into what has had me chasing my tale.
I am so sad to see what Obama has done. Nancy of Starlight News believes that he will come out of the worst of his tailspin by 8/2011 but I don't know anymore since he seems to only be interested in taking care of the Daddy WarBucks of our age.
By the way the good Rabbi was my neighbor during the 70's-we have children of similar ages. I believe that his son was in the military in Israel.He once complained to my best friend that I was not progressive enough. She laughed and said that I was living what he was only talking about.I love his book on Jewish Renewal even though I am not a Jew and I really liked the article you linked today and I agree with him.
I especially "feel" the opportunity and need for a global Marshall Plan. There is so much wealth life could look, feel so different than it does now. We can do it!! And we must do it!! I feel such anxiety that we keep singing these old death songs of war and greed.

Many, Many happy returns of the day, Sally!

I was just playing around with today's transits placing them on the chart of the passage of Roe v Wade. Jan 22, 1973, Washington D.C. I like the noon day chart. Today's transits bring some heavy duty Pluto/Saturn action here.

Lovely reading everybody's opinion. I haven't had much to say these days

I was ruminating once again on world societies (I use those couple of words loosely) and the phrase "the first shall be last and the last shall be first" kept in the fore of my thots. Hmmmm.

Wishing this AW community, a lovely peaceful Thanksgiving Day.
There is so much to be thankful for............

Hi Clymela, what a coinkydink ('bout the Rabbi being your neighbor). How synchronous is that! re you comment above, couldn't agree with you more on all points! Hope everyone has a lovely Thanksgiving! Sally, warmest wishes to you and your family. xxxooo, Marta

Oh Happy Thanksgiving to all of you. AW is something for which I have unending gratitude-I feel like I know you all and I love coming here daily.
I am cooking all the favorites and listening to Native Americans from Alcatraz and from all over.My favorite today was a family band Denali-children of Navajo father and Jewish mother born in the 70's. Loved them and their music-punk rock evidently very loved around the world but(of course??)ignored here.

Happy Turkey Day! Sort of...a little history for you today.
The Massacre For Which Thanksgiving Is Named

http://www.nativeamericannetroots.net/diary/190/

We're having a quiet day. Just the two of us. We say that every year, and every year we have an open house for all our young friends who need a good full tummy, and warm cheer when their families are far away. My husband cooks the bird and my contribution is Native American Fry Bread and pies.

Have a wonderful day all.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone.

From Sally...Happy Thanksgiving Captain.

"Sorry this is so late, it’s not that it hasn’t been on my mind but except for breakfast with a couple of my kids (two of them are out of town) I slept all day. I would awaken for about 5 minutes and think “I want to tell everyone Happy Thanksgiving” then I would go back to sleep. But all of you were on my mind as well as what’s going on this Thanksgiving Day. Everyone in this town seemed very low key leading into the holiday and very quiet today. Not the usual cheery greetings, even when I ran to Whole Foods for an item early this AM. People didn’t seem happy or energetic. I sadly thought of most of my family being gone and for the first time in 45 years I have not fixed Thanksgiving dinner, then I thought “geeze what took you so long to stop cooking in marathons.” So it was a different holiday. This week preceding felt like people had just given up on whatever is going on in this country, kind of like we let go. The Saturn square Pluto would certainly have a depressing affect and today you can add the Moon into that aspect as it opposes Saturn. It will be interesting how much people spend over the next two days as the Moon moves away from that opposition or will it just drag the repressed energy with it. Jupiter conjoin Chiron could find people coming out of their economic stupor and spending more than they thought and it will be to our detriment with Chiron there, kind of like a sudden “our eyes are bigger than our stomach.” Uranus goes direct on Dec. 2nd and then all the outer planets will be direct changing things once again as Uranus wiggles itself out of the retrograde corkscrew, straighten itself out and plunge ahead to the spring, zapping whatever he’s missed to shake up where we think we are or where we think we are going. Happy Holidays to us all and I trust you all had a happy and peaceful, full of thanks for your lives Thanksgiving, I sure did. Maybe it was all the sleeping. "

Sally-so wonderful to hear from you. I hope that the sleep brought you the rest you need and gave your body the peace to get the repairs completed. Love to you beautiful one.
When I was listening to the people on Alcatraz yesterday I thought about the Native Americans and what the Europeans did not only to them but now to the very land itself. Mu Steve is getting his minor in Native American studies at San Francisco State so we think on these things all year long.
Nevertheless I love the harvest celebration and the stories.Cornell West told the story of Lincoln yesterday on KPFA. He said that Lincoln was not unlike Obama is at this point. He said that Lincoln was a rather corrupt leader who loved the High Financers but that he was turned in to the magnificent leader that he became by the progressives of his time. West was very inspiring as he always is and I felt energized and continued the cooking.

Morgana, my brother stood up at our annual Thanksgiving celebration at his house yesterday to toast the occasion, give thanks for each other and remember the original thanksgiving meal which brought together the indians and puritans. I HAD TO BITE MY TONGUE NOT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT IT WAS A MASSACRE AND THE FOOD WAS ALL STOLEN. Yikes.

Marta,
Oh gosh that must have hurt! I am so politically-incorrect I make sure to enlighten everyone who comes by 'sharing what I discovered' and how is it our school text books omitted those tiny nasty details? Oh wait white washing American history.
Well we actually had a quiet Turkey Day. Today I took a nap, such a luxury that. I hit this 3:00pm wall where I'm sleepy but push through with another cup of coffee then I'm good till midnight.

Hi all!

Hope everyone had an enjoyable Thanksgiving.
I have a request for any of you kind and benevolent astologers who might be willing
to help a somewhat (lately more than usual!) confused "Grizzly" still living in the wilds of Warsaw, Poland:

If anyone is willing to take a look at my chart (August 17, 1948 5:55 a.m. N.Y.C.) and perhaps give me some ideas/insights about the next several months (absolutely crucial time for me) re possibility of new jobs/when to try to move (London) to try to get a new job, etc.) I'd be most grateful and highly appreciative.

(As a stereotypically proud, self sufficient Leo sun critter, I really dislike asking for help, but I sure could use some. My e-mail is:

richardastor@hotmail.com

Morgana, yes, it was surreal. However yesterday I went on a field trip to ECHO and an organic garden in Ft. Myers with my niece and a couple of my Master Gardener classmates (I just graduated from the course and now have to volunteer 75 hours to finish up) and I mentioned the "Thanksgiving" moment to my niece who is 17 and was with us that day. She smiled and said she had the same reaction (she also knows about the whitewash, but she's a very unusual young lady and reads an awful lot). She said that I'd be surprised. That discerning people could read in the school textbooks sly references to the truth tucked in here and there. The truth is coming out for those who can stand it.

* Turkey Trot

I hope you had a lovely Thanksgiving, one that filled both your belly and your heart; my Dad was able to come home so ours was brimming with gratitude. Thank you for your prayers and good wishes … what would I do without you!

There is some very heartening news about Obama lowering the boom on lobbyists that I’ve posted first. I’m sure there will be a zillion wrinkles, but it’s a huge step and a good one. The man they’re calling the Chess Master needs one resounding, indisputable WIN on his proposals — too much of what he’s put in motion is hanging fire. When that happens, he’ll pick up the speed he needs to finally give us a sense if he’s Republican Lite as so many accuse, Moderate Dem or the Progressive we need. I still think the structural changes he’s putting in place shift us Left in ways we don’t notice, but like the stimulus, it’s hard to plead the success in “it could have been much worse.” ... http://polwaves.planetwaves.net/

Sally, happy belated and hi to all.

I'm not suprised about Obama. Pluto (transformation) has not finished slugging it out with Saturn (status quo) yet. Pluto of course shall win.

I've been focused on the economy and future survival/flexibility of late. The financial obligations of the United States at the end of this incarnation cannot be paid in 12 months of GDP. According to Greenspan that means we are toast. In fact the US is 7 times GDP in debt. YeeHaw! I continue to prep X especially food...Nameste' all, Timmy J

One must always ck anything that's supposed to pass as newz, esp nutnewz.

* Getting Into The White House

You don't get into the WH by accident. It is not airport security, where if you get the fat guy thinking about lunch, your hunting knife and your 8 oz of shampoo sail on through the x-ray. It is nothing like that. The only way anybody, and I mean anybody, gets into the WH, let alone a state dinner, is because someone on the inside purposely let him in. I knew news orgs in American were dying, I didn't know I had missed the funeral.

On Fox News Sun, Indiana Dem Evan Bayh said, "Like [shoe bomber] Richard Reid, these folks may change the way people go to the WH," and said this breach of security would lead to stricter safety measures at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Perhaps he's never gone in as a guest. They couldn't be any stricter. ... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/elayne-boosler/getting-into-the-white-ho_b_374639.html

Hey All,
Sally called last night and said she was sending me an article to post. I'll put it up as soon as I get it.

No wonder there aren't many posts.......I had to try 5 times to sign in!
Bob Cesca points out the pragmatic as usual.

Obama's Unavoidable Cure for the Afghanistan Cancer

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/obamas-unavoidable-cure-f_b_377482.html

BREAKING: Sanders Puts Official Senate Hold on Bernanke Nomination

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4168788

Good week for the Ladies..........

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/03/arts/music/03sales.html?_r=1&th&emc=th

Ms. Boyle’s album, “I Dreamed a Dream” (Syco/Columbia), sold 701,000 copies in the United States, according to Nielsen SoundScan, the biggest opening-week sales for any album this year, eclipsing superstars like Eminem and U2, and the best for a debut artist since Snoop Dogg’s “Doggystyle” in 1993.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/deepak-chopra/how-to-make-peace-with-ob_b_377483.html
Awkwardly sending a link to a post I read from a link offered over on Starlight News for those of you who haven't seen it. I read this article by Deepak Chopra whom I haven't listened to because of a certain sweetness in his talking tone that this old Saturn/Moon/Pluto conjunct woman finds alienating but his words brought me out of my stupor and called me to action as an adult who is capable of holding contradictions. Jung encouraged the "holding of opposites" in consciousness until the blessing of a resolution is presented by the Unconscious (God?!?!). Reading Deepak Chopra this AM has recentered me in the seriousness of our circumstances
qop-good to hear from you. Sorry about the login frustration. I had one moment of trouble but then that passed.

Clymela, that's so funny that you posted Deepak's article. I saw it on Starlight too, but didn't comment. Musn't be negative over there or else! I hated the article. Has all of the typical excuses for Obama. We voted for him to change the status quo. Not continue it. Nothing has changed but the faces. We do NOT need to be in Afganistan or Iraq. We choose to be in Afganistan/Iraq to satisfy Corporate Interests. And we get the pleasure of paying for all of this mess. It's time for a taxpayer revolt.

As a case in point, Bernake had the balls to stand up in Congress and suggest that Social Security and medicare were mandated by congress and that since the government has run out of money, perhaps congress should consider un-mandating it. He said, "that's where the money is". How 'bout that. There's always money for war, bank bailouts and whatever benefits the powers-that-be. Forget about education, jobs, housing, etc. That's just a waste of money. OUR MONEY. And let's not forget that Obama endorses Bernake.

Anyway, this post is not meant in any way to criticize you, Clymela. Just some thoughts.

Marta... YOU GO GIRL!!! Those criminal boyz see our money as their own personal piggy bank... and I DO mean piggy.

Well, we'll see. Not much else to hold on to, it seems.

* SaLuSa 4-December-2009

Do not be too influenced by what you see happening around you, as many things are going on of which you do not have awareness of, and are intentionally kept quiet. The outer appearances given by events on Earth suggest there is not much headway being made against the dark forces. The truth is that our allies are manoeuvring them into situations that will weaken their power base, and then more pressure will be exerted until they collapse. It may sound simpler to meet them head on and deal with them openly, but it is essential that when we make our move it is decisive. We do not wish to cause more disarray than exists at present, and want to see our friends of the Light move into the forefront. Trust us Dear Ones, as we will state again that we have a greater understanding of what is needed, as we have full knowledge of what is happening behind the scenes. There is little if anything of importance that escapes our attention. ... http://www.treeofthegoldenlight.com/First_Contact/mike_quinsey/channeled%20messages/December%202009/salusa__4december2009.htm

You know Marta for some reason I didn't feel threatened by your words. Wonder what is going on with us astrologically? I always feel free to listen and we agree a lot. At any rate I am still holding to the thoughts of Deepak Chopra AND I will definitely support a ball hunting posse for Bernacke- oh yes sometimes the roots of patriotism must be watered with the blood of bankers ( to absolutely mangle the saying but I am sure everyone knows what I am referring to.) Yes this might be the time.When did he say this? Recently? The absolute pig.

* The Questions

The escalation of our presence in Afghanistan … “surge” is the word I keep hearing … is taking up the political oxygen. The Right has spun off in Righty rhetoric, the Lefty’s into Lefty pursuits. It feels to me as if I’m caught between two giant vortexes, staring alternately into each as familiar and both, not suddenly but most surely, no longer acceptable. A David Sirota piece caught my eye and turned my head yesterday; and, as if I were rereading an old familiar book, I knew the pages, knew the story and knew the ending. Old story — but these are new times.

So, here’s the thing … it’s time to come at this from a renewed understanding. I just can’t do a Bush-kick like I did four, even eight years ago. It’s not who Obama is that prompts my feelings, although he is NOT — objections [and speeches, a'la an always brilliant Jon Stewart] aside — Bushian. Times haven’t changed so much as I HAVE. I can’t just pick my side and join the lemmings of choice — I can’t just grab my cyber-picket and get on board the Peace Train in the same old way. What was always done before is not change … it’s rote; change requires some serious thinking, feeling and observation.

It’s time to look at everything differently, for gawdsake … if change is flooding consciousness, it’s not just attempting to get into some politician’s head — it’s HEART change across the whole of the planet. Cooperating with the incoming energies requires not just the passions and sympathies of which we’re capable, it requires us to process incoming information in a NEW way … not the old knee-jerk, outworn response we’ve practiced forever and a day! Part of the change we’re engaging is to find a new resonance that is not part of the ancient Operating System of polarization with which we’ve become so comfortable. ... http://polwaves.planetwaves.net/

I agree with polwaves..................
seeking new ways to look at issues..................
The definition of insanity is.............?

After reacting to the above words I stepped back and thought that YES!! I know that right now in the midst of the worst incompetence of governing here in California there are innovative and attractive education opportunities that just have to be federally funded-god knows our movie star governor would never allow anything so innovative to be available to the children of the great unwashed. This program is set up to get the kids who gave up on the system,my grandchild included,back into school by having them work in the community colleges and take a mixture of high school and college courses. This is a god send for kids like ours who are very bright but gave up for family and social reasons. This is creative and encouraging.
Jeez California is not issuing unemployment checks nor my sweethearts checks- he works as an edito/tutor for Dept of Rehab-this is the sh-t we get over and over from Schwarzenegger-it is very difficult not to fly into "kneejerk thinking and activities.

Clymela, Bernake made the comments about ending Social Security and Medicare at his re-confirmation hearing. How 'bout that. The same guy would get an uzi if somebody said he had to give up his lifestyle. Because HE of course, is deserving. Everybody else who has paid into Social Security and medicare all their lives are NOT.

Yes I just found out that Bernake said this yesterday and Diane Feinstein,D-CA,already has a bill to go. Well and where am I to find beautiful golden peace now? The uber wealthy are doing "anything" to maintain their wealth and I wonder if they aren't using Obama to do the dirty work. God knows that to the upper classes the people of color are always called on the sweep up the ugly and dispose of it.

A gigantic burglary and heist afoot. Just we remember who is doing the behavior... um pink and male.

And what was that banker creep's name who recently went off with $8 billion of our money? Get that back & it will pay for some of our bills.

* Take Back What Wall Street Stole

Why doesn't Obama propose a recovery plan for fraud?

Last fall I wrote that the biggest mystery of the bailout bonanza was why the federal govt was giving $4b to Chrysler's owner, Cerberus, without asking one of the world's richest private equity firms to invest any of its own money in the bankrupt carmaker.

That perplexing question is even more relevant today now that Chrysler is back for a second bite of this rotten rescue apple, and I was glad to see The NYTimes(among others) challenging the lunacy of this arrangement in recent days.

But that situation, outrageous as it is, pales in comparison to the market murder that the big banks and those who enabled the sale of their fraudulent mortgage-backed securities are about to get away with. These peddlers of junk loans bilked investors out of billions, with the triple-A assistance of the conflict-ridden credit rating agencies, and destabilized the American economy in the process. Yet the federal govt is doing next to nothing to recoup the obscene amts of ill-gotten profits they pocketed.

Instead, to add insult to taxpayer injury, we are rewarding them with another $350b in TARP funding, and likely 100s of billions more to come--all without demanding any real accountability or restitution for their past crimes. Indeed, the titans of Wall St commit the most costly scam in the history of the world, and their only real penalty is a prospective cap on their future pay (which, albeit, is better than nothing).

How on earth--particularly in a country that prizes the rule of law and basic fairness--does this make sense?

This question kept running through my mind over the last few days as I listened to Pres Obama speak at his fiscal responsibility summit on Mon and to the jt session of Congress Tue, when he continued his efforts to position himself as the grown-up truth-teller.

In these statements, like others before, Obama warned us that we're broke and that to get out of this horrendous hole we "need to end this era of profound irresponsibility that has brought us to where we are today." It would stand to reason, then, that he would heed Willie Sutton's famous advice and, in this case, go where the bank robbers are to make investors feel at least somewhat more whole and taxpayers feel a little less like suckers.

To be sure, I thought the president would recognize that this isn't just about justice, though that is a powerful justification in its own right for an aggressive, systematic campaign to recoup the fruit of this massive fraud. It's essential to restoring consistency and confidence in our economic and political leadership--to show Americans, as Obama said in response to the controversy over his taxpaying-challenged nominees, that there are not two sets of rules in this country. ... http://www.forbes.com/2009/02/24/obama-banks-sec-money-opinions-columnists_fraud.html

Thank you Joanna dear. I really needed to read the words from Forbes (?!?!).
For myself it is the news that Citibank invested 9 billion dollars in Dubai made my head swim/ This is so ugly when you consider what $9 billion invested in small businesses here could do for the unemployment stats.
I can't get over the Berneke statements regarding Social Security and Medicare. I think I could move into a very militant mood if his words represent the Obama regime.

Here's a thot. Mebbe Obama et al are maneuvering a gigantic sting on The Boyz. Could be.

joanna-that would be something indeed. I just thought of Dubai as another nation building itself up with slavery but let it be a trap for the pinkboyz as you always say.

Ummmm... I once had a better opinion of Astrotabletalk's Dharmaruci. Now, not so much.

" ... Americans are very good at that sort of hypocrisy, the English not quite so, partly because it is not so bad to have an affair over here, although it’s getting that way: the new Puritanism that has come in the wake of the so-called ‘sexual revolution’, for which I think American feminism is largely to blame. ..." http://astrotabletalk.blogspot.com/

It's still women's fault for the boyz wandering wee-wees. By the by, who do gay guys blame? Hahahahaaa. Will they ever grow up? No.

And we should be mindful that Puritanism originally came from England in the first place.

uhg... I can hardly bear Huff-post anymore. Don't quite know what it is... mebbe... oh, I don't know.

"Don't quite know what it is......."
It 's gone sleazy, just like most of our society now..............water seeks the lowest level...
Pathetic!

"I think I could move into a very militant mood if his words represent the Obama regime."
I will be in the front line next to you Clymela!

and....joannoregon and QOP/QOW: Huffington Post has gotten popular with the big money guys and I suppose this is responsible for the sleazy factor. You know-please the guys with the big bucks and they want all of us content with our binkies resting on our blankies. Better than having us lining up with our pots and pans determined to see change or else!!!

Ahhh..But I have my pots & pans wrapped in my blankie..........

DId you see THIS?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/07/56-papers-in-45-countries_n_382135.html
Climate change has been caused over centuries, has consequences that will endure for all time and our prospects of taming it will be determined in the next 14 days. We call on the representatives of the 192 countries gathered in Copenhagen not to hesitate, not to fall into dispute, not to blame each other but to seize opportunity from the greatest modern failure of politics. This should not be a fight between the rich world and the poor world, or between east and west. Climate change affects everyone, and must be solved by everyone.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/New-Warnings-to-a-New-War-by-Coleen-Rowley-091206-567.html

Wonder where all the newspaper photos are ... makes it seem like there's nobody protesting anywhere. Guess it's the old, "if a tree falls in a forest and there's no one there to see/hear it, did it happen?

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/08/science/08angier.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&th&emc=th

"I also learned of Kandinsky’s growing love affair with the circle. The circle, he wrote, is “the most modest form, but asserts itself unconditionally.” It is “simultaneously stable and unstable,” “loud and soft,” “a single tension that carries countless tensions within it.” Kandinsky loved the circle so much that it finally supplanted in his visual imagination the primacy long claimed by an emblem of his Russian boyhood, the horse."
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"Sometimes roundness is purely a matter of physics. “The shape of any object represents the balance of two opposing forces,” explained Larry S. Liebovitch of the Center for Complex Systems and Brain Sciences at Florida Atlantic University. “You get things that are round when those forces are isotropic, that is, felt equally in all directions.”

It is troubling that the Obama administration opposes the reinstatement of the Glass-Steagall Act, which was abolished by Larry Summers, under Clinton. That repeal led to the economic fiasco we're in with the banks.

http://market-ticker.denninger.net/

This is most heartening, fellow posters...

* Obama, the great disappointment? The Miracle President hasn't actually accomplished much? Wrong

I am here to report some good news. Times have changed. Things are not what they once were. Evolution has occurred, is occurring, just now occurred while you were reading this very sentence. ... http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2009/12/02/notes120209.DTL

* Obama's Brilliant First Year

By Jan, he will have accomplished more than any first-year president since Franklin Roosevelt. ... http://www.slate.com/id/2236708/

good article.

http://www.chris-floyd.com/component/content/article/1-latest-news/1884-when-blood-is-their-argument-an-empire-on-fire.html#comments

This is certainly positive..........

U.S. Will Settle Indian Lawsuit for $3.4 Billion

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/09/us/09tribes.html?_r=1&th&emc=th

re: above post.
I fnd Chris Floyd a bit a of a crepe hanger; giving too much energy to the dark side!

I agree qop, Chris Floyd can be a crepe hanger. However, maybe it's because he's writing on crepe hanging subjects like our propensity to wage war on other people. Kinda a nasty subject. Nuttin positive there, unfortunately, much as the gubmint tries to frame the issues in lofty terms such as saving other people.

Push has come to shove!
My pharmacy is OUT OF ARMOUR thyroid pills. I have enough 120 mg tablets for Dec. (I have to cut one in 1/2 & take 1 &1/2 each day..............they don't cut evenly!)
I just called the pharmacy in my daughter's community in NY state.
They have 100 60mg tabs LEFT! I will have my Dr call tomorrow to prescribe enough pills for Jan.
If the weather prevents me from going over there for Christmas, my daughter can mail them to me.
After that it is Canada. ( my pharmacist thinks they have the same lack of supply problem )
Or take pharmacutically manufacured synthetic drugs lacking in the natural T2 that supplies the cutting edge of the brain.
From past experience this will compromise the paintings I am doing!
Home of the Free, Land of the Brave!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daniel-ladinsky/maybe-the-best-lay-in-tow_b_373872.html

I had a sweet conversation with HuffPost Living Editor, Alana B. Elias Kornfeld, before she turned me loose here, on this blog I was invited to write. And while we were talking, and I was telling her about my life and how I am so drawn to nature and was planning to spend more and more time at a wilderness farm I have in the Ozarks, it occurred to me that nature and art were royal twins. And that people who lived in cities can so need to associate with art simply because it helps to keep one sane at the least, and can deeply nourish and inspire at its best. Nature and art are sacred breasts we can feed on to grow. They are vital to our evolution. They offer a jailbreak or leave from the madness and demands we can get caught in. Of course love does that, too. Love dissolves boundaries and ultimately removes any contour that is not luminous.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4178269

"Facebook users play a social game, like "FarmVille" or "Friends For Sale." They get addicted to it. Eager to accelerate their progress inside the game, the gamers buy "virtual goods" such as a machine gun for "Mafia Wars." But these gamers don't buy these virtual goods with real money. They use virtual currency."
more............

qop-would it be possible to find a compounding pharmacy as in homeopathy? Perhaps such a business could make the medicine for you??
Democratic Underground had a wonderful piece on the Koch brother billionaires who have financed the Teabagger movement. I was so glad to hear the information because I had wondered where the money had come from and just how long they had been organizing. I was amazed when I heard about the big buses-I mean this did not come from the Republican Party so I wondered who was doing it.

I don't think so vlymela......armour is desicated pig thyroid....under the heading "MEAT BIZ" The ;ab that provides the raw material & the lab that finishes the pills are (THE ON
LY ONES IN THIS HUGE COUNTRY..................BOTH DRAGGING THEIR FEET.)
PROBLEM/ REASON? there's no prOfit in it!

Oh how I detest The Boyz relating to the above. And does THIS sound familiar? http://medievalhistory.suite101.com/article.cfm/inquisitions_of_the_middle_ages

* Cardinal Moon, Ordinal Sun

On Monday, it was Mercury doin’ the quickie with the constituents of the Pluto-Saturn square (which has been around long enough to be the 51st State), making good its getaway from both, come retrograde or high water. Today, the Moon in Libra, comes off its overnight stand with the Dynamic Duo with enough steam to square Mercury before lunch in most of N America. No wonder Luna is looking a little bent as it rounds toward another New Moon late in a sign (this time Sagittarius) in less than a week.

Then less than a week after that the whole solar system gets into the spirit of bustin’ loose when the rarest (and longest) of inner planet retrogrades (Mars in Leo) is closely followed by an auspicious solstice. The solstice finally brings the Sun itself into and through that long cardinal square (Saturn-Pluto) that will define our epoch. Eventually it will involve two more colorful gas giants that dominate and dictate the curvature of space-time (Jupiter and Uranus). Oh sister Artemis, you lead us down a doughty path, your silver crescent stirring us to follow. ... http://planetwaves.net/pagetwo/2009/12/10/cardinal-moon-ordinal-sun/#more-20037