Astroworld

You go, girl!! Boy do I share your outrage and thank you so much for expressing it so clearly and for articulating what I only have as a feeling.
I have noticed a blanket of doom and destruction coming from the old guard all over TV land. One would think that they won the election and Obama and his administration are just hanging around unwilling to let the winners get on with the show.

Thanks Clymela, Uncle Dicky so infuriated me this morning which was then capped off by my sons pregnant girlfriend stopping by and telling me the wedding was on hold and she was thinking of booking on him. I suspect she might and I'll likely not get to know my grandson. Bummer.

Why thank you Morgana! I needd something interesting to reflect on while dinner is cooking!
I'm picturing him plugged in every night to recharge his battery like a cell phone!
And no wonder I am so reactive.......US moon is conjunct my MC & US mars conjunct my ASC. AS for old dick. there are more connections between our charts than I like. I wonder of I could do a "Niniveh" and seduce him away into a cave somewhere forever like Merlin, his polar opposite.
Speaking of which, where did O B Laden's cave residence myth come from?
Obviously his appearance this AM wasn't just random entertainment! We'll have to keep an eye on it!

Morgana-I hope that things work out so that you get †o be around your grandson as he grows up. Tha† is one sad Sunday.

qop to go all esoteric on you...each of us is a work in progress so even if you and the limp Dick share the same chart you manifest the energies differently since you are obviously way more evolved therefore manifesting the higher octaves or vibrations of the astrological energy. The pink boy however manifests the lowest vibrational notes of sign and planet, rather like an inverted tarot card.

I don't mean our charts are alike....that's Negroponte, in a few years when my planets progress to July 21 ( I think)what ever his birthdate.
I mean there are connections....if he were
just another guy" he would be emminently seducable by me!, not that I am like him!
BARF!
There is a really interesting film on Link TV "My Perfect Teacher." about a Tibetan Monk in London.
Nice change of pace!

qop oh no problem, got it. I have some connections to Uncle Dicky chart wise as well, gives me the eeebie jeebies and am so grateful I am no where near his sphere of influence. My NN sits on his Mercury, my Jupiter forming a conjunction to his Jupiter, my Mercury conjunct his Uranus...no thank you eeeewww.

The cave myth is just that a myth nary a word can you believe out of the mouths of the media or government. We really have no idea of what the truth is about anything, there has been just so much lying and obfuscation.

AIG has the government by the cajones bilking us of millions as they payoff Europe and China then line the pockets of their executives.

You know puttin the squeeze on the people really ignited the Revolutionary War. We have the same astrological signature repeating itself as we watch the East India company wholesale American jobs offshore. Just makes you go hmmmmm.

Sally is having a problem posting she sent me this to post:

Like DNA, we all have aspects in common, but trust me QOP you are polar opposite of Dick Cheney. I will say with your MC conj. the US Moon you would be sensitive to the collective of this country and reactive to what's happening in the US.

Sorry you had to wake up to Cheney (but it did give us an excellent article) I saw he was going to be on today so I skipped the morning line up. I am getting tired of the "talking dribble" anyway. The best thing I've seen in months and months is Jon Stewart holding the babbling heads to their babble. It was so informative and eye opening as to why we thing we are going crazy. He might have been after CNBC but he could have been talking about any of the networks.

Fantastic read Morgana.

Sally You mean you can't post to your own blog?
Now isn't that just typical of what's going on?

"you would be sensitive to the collective of this country and reactive to what's happening in the US." You betcha!
I very firmly believe we will be safe!
WE!

My my my AIG put out a list of payees, CNN has the whole piece.

AIG Payouts
Below are the top 10 largest payouts, according to a report released Sunday by AIG.

Societe Generale: $4.1 billion
Deutsche Bank: $2.6 billion
Goldman Sachs: $2.5 billion
Merrill Lynch: $1.8 billion
Calyon: $1.1 billion
Barclays: $0.9 billion
UBS: $0.8 billion
DZ Bank: $0.7 billion
Wachovia: $0.7 billion
Rabobank: $0.5 billion

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/03/15/AIG.banks.list/index.html

Ah cool from DU Devils Advocate got more numbers from the NYT.

Since the New York Times didn’t aggregate the data, I did it myself. The numbers in parentheses are the amounts received as listed in attachments A (CDS), B (buying securities underlying CDS), and D (securities lending agreements):

$12.9B Goldman Sachs (2.5/5.6/4.8)
$12.0B Bank of America/Merrill Lynch (7.0/2.3/7.6)
$5.2B Bank of America (0.2/0.5/4.5)
$6.8B Merrill Lynch (6.8/1.8/3.1)
$11.9B Societe Generale (4.1/6.9/0.9)
$11.8B Deutsche Bank (2.6/2.8/6.4)
$8.5B Barclays (0.9/0.6/7.0)
$5.0B UBS (0.8/2.5/1.7)
$4.9B BNP Paribas (0.0/0.0/4.9)
$3.5B HSBC Bank (0.2/0.0/3.3)
$3.3B Calyon (1.1/1.2/0.0)
$2.3B Citigroup (0.0/0.0/2.3)
$2.2B Dresdner Kleinwort (0.0/0.0/2.2)
$1.6B JPMorgan/Morgman Stanley (0.6/0.0/1.0)
$0.4B JPMorgan (0.4/0.0/0.0)
$1.2B Morgan Stanley (0.2/0.0/1.0)
$1.5B Wachovia (0.7/0.8/0.0)
$1.5B ING (0.0/0.0/1.5)
$1.1B Bank of Montreal (0.2/0.9/0.0)
$1.0B Deutsche Zentral-Genossenschaftsbank (0.0/1.0/0.0)
$0.8B Rabobank (0.5/0.3/0.0)
$0.7B Royal Bank of Scotland (0.2/0.5/0.0)
$0.7B DZ Bank (0.7/0.0/0.0)
$0.5B KFW (0.5/0.0/0.)
$0.3B Banco Santander
$0.4B Dresdner Bank AG (0.0/0.4/0.0)
$0.4B Credit Suisse (0.0/0.0/0.4)
$0.2B Citidel (0.0/0.0/0.2)

$38.8B US Banks
$50.2B Foreign Banks
$12.0B Municipal Bonds
$84.0B Unaccounted for

— Posted by Devil's Advocate

Thanks for this, Morgana. Cheney was in his glee. It appeared to me that all questions had been vetted prior to the interview. The dead giveaway was the little smirk which stated "yes, i'm so glad you asked that question." He was totally prepared and terribly glib. Reporting? No, more complicity, duplicity and attempting to further cement a fear-based reality.

Speaking of fear-based reality. . .

Sally, nailed it. There are far too many media heads promoting the above. The more they focus on fear, the more fear-full the "reality" becomes. This makes my heart ache for collectively we seem to be manifesting the reality being fed to us. It's like the aging elephant who had been tied up all her life. When she was finally let free, she did not know what to do having lost all sense of her authentic self.

This is a great dialogue. WHEW!! I have been noticing strange things-according to the "news" Americans just stopped spending money once teh "recession" was part of the news and if that wasn't enough the credit card people supposedly started making it very difficult for people to spend. And then this last AIG thing is just outrageous and all the officials just standing around saying we have to do this. WHAT????
Yes Cheney was all choreographed-what a PIG really as I revert to my 20 year old consciousness.

Clymela boy isn't Cheney just the epitome of a PIG from back in the day.

We've started spending since it is my neighbors who will suffer. Plus in my warped logic I figure the dollar may not be worth hoarding so might as well spend it.

Like a lot of my over 50 friends I am looking at ways to bring in extra dollars to re-feather my retirement nest. I've got a friend from high school who also does photography so we're going to try and sell pics at our local Art/Wine Festivals in 2010. Back in the 80's I was selling water colors I done so might as well give that a go as well.

I am having an "I am woman hear me roar" attitude.

I have my sewing machine repairs ed and back,......
so if I can't sell paintings I will make underwear!
HA HA.

Well... I think you sisters are on to something... that it's now time for women to take the lead in running the world for several millennia. The boyz don't have their corpus callosum working... don't use it will lose it, as the saying goes. Now, if we can just manage their tendency for violence... or something like that.

* Obama expresses outrage over AIG bonus pymnts http://www.reuters.com/article/bondsNews/idUSWAT01115420090316

* WH May Want AIG Money Back - Adm Investigates Ways To Retrieve Some Of The Millions AIG Used For Bonuses http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/03/16/business/main4868077.shtml

joannaoregon

I just heard a snippet of Obama's outrage over AIG bonuses and also noted the reporter editorializing on his motivation. Editorializing used to be a huge journalism 101 no no. Insidious little lines tucked in.

I'm more inclined to believe that President Obama does not want the masses rising up, nor does he want our anger and fear stirred up. We're not that far removed from pitchforks and torches.

I am speculating, but it seems to me that a lot of our national garbage and filth is being revealed. What lays beneath the Hollywood version of America or as advertised by the ad men, that veneer is washed away and we the people are finally seeing those things.

Then again there is a lot we don't see since what we see is controlled by MSM including cable.

I am totally ready for Matriarchy to displace greed thank you....Given economics, astrology, and cycles are some of my hobbies, I've seen the collapse coming for some time. Living on a small boat, except for sprouts, I'll not be gardening. I've laid-in some small trade goods over time. Recently I added a small supply of peat pellets. Now I'm considering adding canning jar lids...My most trade worthy skill is probably REIKI. I've knocked out major headaches in 30 secs; though it usually takes a few minutes.

GE used to put up what they called popcorn stands. They would try-out an idea on a small scale. I think that is good advice for street fairs too. Pick a few bread-and-butter (needed/used everyday) items as a sideline and see how they fly.

Here you go...We're doing it in MAine!
http://www.bangordailynews.com/detail/101598.html
WINSLOW, Maine — Even as sleet and snow still pelt frozen Maine, sales at the state’s seed companies and distributors are shooting through the roof. They are being pushed by two forces: the growing consumer demand for locally grown food and economic hard times.
If you can't find a job, come apply at one of the 3 ME seed companys, they're adding to their staff to handle the sales.

Canning jar lids is good! You might be able to trade them for fresh veggies.

Morgana... I just got thru watching the video, "For the Boys" with Bette Midler & James Caan. It was good at showing & giving the long view of USian war after war after war after war--insitutionalized violence with our money... oh, & our kids. The child is sacrificed for the old money-grubbing plutocrat in the sky... not to mention the ones hanging around the immediate neighborhoods. Shouldn't have watched it.

joannaoregon,
I almost watched that the other night I'll have to make a point to see it again through a different perspective.

http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/carpenter/338
The electorate should get a grip: AIG isn't the prime enemy

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/16/AR2009031602961.html?hpid=topnews
"Politicians and the public spent yesterday demanding that AIG rescind payouts that they said rewarded recklessness and greed at a company being bailed out with $170 billion in taxpayer funds. But company officials contend that the uproar is scaring away the very employees who understand AIG Financial Products' complex trades and who are trying to dismantle the division before it further endangers the world's economy."................
"Jonathan Macey, a professor at Yale Law School, said it was unlikely that any AIG employees would end up suing the company for changing compensation contracts, mainly because their names would be revealed publicly in a lawsuit and they would then be excoriated."

Thanks for the BUZZFLASH link qop. the comments are even better. Notice how we are no longer discussing what we the people need only what scoundrels work at AIG? Obama's administration is tinkering with VA so that vets will have to carry greater responsibility for their own medical care. The administration is teasing out turning social Security and Medicare into welfare programs-that is the beginning of making the benefits diststeful and the beginning of the destruction of the programs.
There is no discussion at all of how much money has been shoveled over to AIG. God we are so screwed and I don't see how we are going †o change without big suffering. Obama seems stuck with †he old guard in Treasury and State almost as if he is just along for the ride. I do wish it weren't so but this is what I am seeing.

And, CNN delivers this daily dribble of "advice for how to get through this financial crisis", NOT HOW TO CURE IT or FIX it. ( They are not even showing DC events, daily activities of the Governing)
Obama is I think, finding out how much worse it is than when going in.... ( I mean the strength of the Power figures)
Watching the Speaker, who had gotten such a bad rap, react to the election with joy & a puppy like wiggle of the derrier............She no longer has to carry the burden alone.
THIS IS NOT A ONE ACT PLAY!
Sen Specter just said "If you have a contract concerning the sale of heroin " it isn't enforcable."

Well, the USian govt only honors the contracts it likes... just ask the native american peoples. The whole thing is a bottomless lie since the pale face continental invasion... not a shred of decency. "Pale face speaks with forked tongue." That about says it for me & I shant look for anything else but same-old same-old. Surprise me, US!! Yeah. Right.

The US is trying to spin gold from straw. Remember pushing more hay into place to jump in in the barn? Makes for a softer landing.

I think we may be at the deflation tipping point we cannot inflate out of. Inflating is an effort to soften the landing, but will fail as a solution.
We are a snake which has eaten its own tail. We are expanding the budget while the tax base, jobs, and most important, confidence in the system are disappearing.

Do not let the dog and pony show frighten you into giving-up liberties, distract you from preparing to be self reliant with your neighbors, or keep you from inventing a new better social order....Soap box off!

The astrological signatures are primed for our inventing a new and better social order.

Sally has some thoughts on the Saturn Uranus opposition relating to the old giving way to the new. As soon as she can get back into her own site she'll post them.

Timmy J enjoyed your soap box, we can always use the encouragement to keep on truckin'. Which US chart do you use? You mentioned you live on a boat, where?

We've all seen this coming down the pike. The reality of it has just reached the governments awareness. The people are way ahead of them in awareness.

A friend and I just compared notes, we have bumped up a few steps on the evolutionary ladder,? stairs?
plane? in the last few days...........won't go into detail but she's pisces, I have that jupiter 10th H pisces....opposite Saturn in virgo.......
she became her own Father Warrior, I cut free from him! interesting.............
Looking forward to your article Sally!

Check out this link ... the Household Cyclopedia ... has recipes from the pioneers, or so it seems (just in case) ... fascinating!

http://www.publicbookshelf.com/public_html/The_Household_Cyclopedia_of_General_Information/old-fashioned-recipes.html

I'm happy to report that my sourdough starter started, I made my first two loaves of bread with it (artisanal bread, very nice), my veggie garden is doing well, yesterday I had lunch entirely produced at home with the exception of oil and vinegar (lovely sample of tomatoes yellow and red, fresh oregano, purple basil and slices of my bread). Yumms. Have I mentioned that I'm gaining weight? Yikes!

Okay if you want your heart broken and your consciousness lifted go over to DU and read leveymg The myths about Madoff's ponzi scheme. As I read it I understood why Bush stepped down and Cheney just goes around talking shit-IT IS NOT OVER!! Oh no we definately have not seen the end and these MF's are still ripping us off. Holy Mother we need guidance and protection.

Can't get into demo-underground. Must be that many who are trying as word gets around.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/ Try this joannaoregon-hope it works

Finally was able to read the piece on DU. I wonder if the investigators are honest. That would put a real crimp in the whole thing. In dualistic thinking, if one assumes one side to be criminal, one generally assumes the "other side" to be honest as the sun in the sky. Ain't necessarily so but one can hope for the best anyway.

Thank you so much, Clymela! Sometime, I'd like to know from whence came your name... unusual & very lovely.

* Another Transmission from The Reconnections

"Form, Function, and Feeling"

The Patriarchal Planetary Program is beginning to buckle. As this occurs, Forces of Chaos rise rapidly to devour what's left. The key to moderating between these two extremes--Repression and Anarchy--is found in your reconnection to and identification with your Intuitive-Feeling Aspect. We're not talking here about a pendulum swing back to a Feelings-Dominant Culture. Rules and Regs do have a place here. But we're also noticing a rising trend towards COLLABORATION between Mind and Emotion--such as your world has never before witnessed. Such societies DO exist within the Multiverse. And their collective sensing of your current evolution is calling them in to assist you as you go through these challenging times. ... http://www.reconnections.net/index2.htm

Glad to be of help Morgana! In the spoken words of Don McLean "If we don't love each other, politics is just a joke."

For the US I use the 5:13 PM Philadelphia chart and spent some time looking at it draconic after Sally's post about that.

My boat is moored in the Seattle area. The weather is very moderate here.

Nameste, Timmy J

Joanna, one of the best techniques I know of for such collaboration, where stressful emotions are present, is to ask the question of oneself or others "What is your fear in the matter?" That often gets right to the base of things from where thought can ensue.

I think we are here in the multiverse to create. That we can do no other. Becoming aware of how we do that...sculpt/paint etc, the landscape of our consciousness is, will be, so liberating.

The old astrological saw about how the stars impel but do not compel seems to fit here. I think if you just coast, the stars navigate your destiny. But even amongst group consciousness/karma and your own subconscious drivers there is room to steer your own ship your way and with passion.

joannaoregon-my name was created by my mother whose parents were Clyde and Amelia. Makes sence for a baby girl born with saturn, moon , pluto together in the 4th. I am glad the link worked.
Timmie-I think of astrology as a map of the cosmos and the individual as an expression of what was happening at the moment of first breath. I don't think there is any huhu involved just the willingness to look beyond what we are taught in school.there is nothing in astrology that says we can or can't do anything but it does indicate where our lean is and where we will likely move. for instance referring to the Leo stellium in my fourth I identify as a hearth witch and definitely prefer to be at home and everyone knows when they are in Clymela's home.

Thank you, Timmy J. You're a mighty thotful individual. What a beautiful place you live in. I love the watery Seattle area... it's been a while since I've visited tho I used to live there, & it was where my only child & son was born. ;O)

OOOPS! CNN Noon presser. Someone directly confronted Obama with doubts about the efficacy of Gheitner; AND Obama's $!00,000. campaign contribution from AIG.
He answered with a resume, confidence, boost about Gheitner, SKIPPED THE CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTION question altogether!

One Link About the Organic Farm Bill–we all need to call and stop this!!

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=12671

I do not have a TV so I'm not sure how much coverage this is getting. The AIG bonuses is the dog and pony show. Below is the real news. To my way of thinking, the US just declared bankruptcy. Who will borrow all this money the FED will make available? When the FED buys US Treasuries it is becuase no one else will. The purchase of short term treasuries has moved the dollar up. I think now that will reverse. Granted this is an amateur's guess. The dollar fell a huge amount today, but tomorrow may be the big drop...........snip: WASHINGTON (AP) -- With the country sinking deeper into recession, the Federal Reserve launched a bold $1.2 trillion effort Wednesday to lower rates on mortgages and other consumer debt, spur spending and revive the economy. To do so, the Fed will spend up to $300 billion to buy long-term government bonds and an additional $750 billion in mortgage-backed securities guaranteed by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac....snip

snip...Where does the Fed get all the money? It prints it....snip

snip...The Fed also said it would consider expanding another $1 trillion program that's being rolled out this week. That program aims to boost the availability of consumer loans for autos, education and credit cards, as well as for small businesses.....snip

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Fed-to-buy-up-to-300B-apf-14680866.html

Thank you joanna. So, you too have webbed feet. Here is my favorite Thot link: http://www.kybalion.org/kybalion.asp#bottom

"FED buys US Treasuries"... with WHAT! I'd like to know. WhaddaSilly Silly boyz world. It's what comes of having no access to the right brain... cannot see the whole picture so makes up what's missing.

I daresay those absent the right brain availability will go the way of the tyrannosaurus rex & those beautiful whole ones will go on to develop and offer their gifts of person manhood to the world... the way it was probably meant to be.

And I suppose the billions that are being spent to this very day every month used for bushie's et al wars come from Iraq's oil?! HAHAHAHAHAHAAAA (We haven't heard too much lately about THAT, have we.) The whole planet has been turned into a huge lunatic holding tank... not that it hasn't been that for a couple thousand years. President Obama... wonder what HE thinks in private moments.

He said today in the speech he made in Ca. that her hoped to clean things up in one term and not run for a second!

"He said today in the speech he made in Ca. that her hoped..." "Freudian slip" done with intention, yes qop? ;O)

* Why the Pope opposes condoms
Pope Benedict XVI is a man of enormous authority.

When he says "don't use condoms - even to prevent the spread of Aids" it has a significant impact among 10s, even 100s of millions of people. Getting on for a 5th of Africans are Roman Catholic. ... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7951839.stm

Merciful heavens! Who is THAT standing next to popebot... looks like a giant woman/man. Anyway, what a weird weird weird org!