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I think you are on to something there Morgana. I've visited WV, in several mountain communities. The rocks are old, very old, and the population is much more progressive than the rest of the US might think. The media is so corrupt and self-serving they have become almost useless. The have become a clique of over paid actors who willingly serve an agenda, not journalists at all. It's a poorly kept secret these days, and their drumbeat sounds more tinny every day.

Thanks once again for a fine piece of astrological music.

Boy howdy no kidding. The thing I have so thoroughly enjoyed is watching the bobble-head pundits bouncing in unison while the American people prove over and over and over they are one people with the Iraq War, gas prices, home foreclosures, retirement vanishings, and whacked out weather lead American's consciousness. No amount of spin fills the gas tank, or buys flour, sugar, corn, rice. A loaf of bread, $5.00! And not the fancy latte drinking sipping biscotti's. Heck yes we want change, we want it now.

Here in the Southeast corner of West Virginia everyone I know is voting for Obama.

Bill Clinton was here last week and got
a very small turnout at the State Fair Grounds at 5:30 PM.

WV may just surprise you. In Greenbrier
County we are very liberal.

The Governor, State Legislature, 2 of
3 Congressmen and both Senators are Democrats.

Quite a nice little present you just bestowed on us, Mz Morgana. Many thanks for this. Your analysis, together with wv's pointing out the preponderance of Dems in wv electoral offices, does make this seem actually promising. Or, hope springs eternal down yon country road.

wv I'm feeling WV may surprise everyone. So far the bobble heads have been way off yonder with their Washington insiders club.

Well thank you kindly Mz Shy! The history of WV and the tumultuous beginnings for the state are fascinating. If the primaries of have done nothing else for me, they have brought each of the 50 States into play and I've delved into all their charts, history, foundations, fascinating stuff. I'd like to see American's show the world we are not George Bush, and more so, we are as a nation mostly beyond racism, mostly mind you there are racists still out there and their numbers dwindle daily. The challenges ahead of us as America needs to transcend political divides and meaningless classifications so we can recover and move forward rather then back.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/11/opinion/11rich.html?_r=1&oref=slogin&ref=opinion&pagewanted=print

May 11, 2008
Op-Ed Columnist

Party Like It’s 2008
By FRANK RICH
ANOTHER weekly do-or-die primary battle, another round of wildly predicted “game changers” that collapsed in the locker room.

Hillary Clinton’s attempt to impersonate a Nascar-lovin’, gun-totin’, economist-bashin’ populist went bust: Asked which candidate most “shares your values,” voters in both North Carolina and Indiana exit polls opted instead for the elite and condescending arugula-eater. Bill Clinton’s small-town barnstorming tour, hailed as a revival of old-time Bubba bonhomie, proved to be yet another sabotage of his wife, whipping up false expectations for her disastrous showing in North Carolina. Barack Obama’s final, undercaffeinated debate performance, not to mention the Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s attempted character assassination, failed to slow his inexorable path to the Democratic nomination.

I posted this at the end of the last thread. I hope it's ok to repost it on this one.

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Hillary Clinton is not some evil spawn as described by some. She is more liberal than her husband, and would probably make a better President. My choice was John Edwards, but that isn't to be. I also like Wes Clark, and he along with the other good Generals speak well of her. Hillary would preserve women's rights and one would hope put a stop to NAFTA. I'm not sure Barack Obama will stop NAFTA. Whoever is elected must change NAFTA. It is key to any kind of recovery. The middle class must be restored. Science must be restored. Health care must be repaired. Education must be restored, and RICO must be enforced. Anything short of that is a continuing road to hegemony. It's a tall order to get out of the Bushes.

Blessings be upon both Democratic candidates. May they see the light and follow it with all the strength and purpose needed to free us all. May we do our part to support them.

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Judi posted this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQrZOIkcr50&NR=1

some higher perspective.....

Well gosh when a WV'ian has the temerity to argue with a red faced finger waggin Bubba a fews day ago I'd wondered if the tide had turned even in WV.

But wow that's pretty brutal from Frank Rich. Though I heard Wolfson this morning, as well as McAuliffe who looks like he's aged ten years, just couldn't believe they continue to beat the division drums. McAuliffe actually taunted Obama to win over WV'ians, all Appalachians, daring him that he couldn't do so. Listening to these guys and I thought wow, that like GWB and bring it on, and these good folk just might.

Course you know if they did it would be all over but the fat lady singing.

I purposely narrowed the scope of the article here, no HRC.

I would hope we could avoid a spitting match between Hillary and Obama supporters. I'm pretty sick of it. I hear the fat lady warming up in the hallways.

I haven't caught up on the last thread this afternoon.

Just got back from a two day traveling show for the family and read this Morgana. What a nice respite from the screaming and yelling I find on other sites, I so appreciate it.

West Virginia could certainly deliver some surprises and I think everyone is almost worn down although I think everyone should be able to vote for this thing. I haven't done the math but dear lord every media outlet, blog and newspaper in the world has done the math and it looks like it is really over and the nominee will be Obama. Following this angry split primary, I had almost forgotten that the original purpose here was to get the GOP and neo-cons out of office and begin the process of repairing this country and it's image. If the final Democratic nominee had been Mike Gravel I would have voted for him. In my mind all the candidates running from the Democratic Party were far more capable than anything the GOP put up, but then I am so disgusted with the GOP objectivity had flown out the door 8 years ago for me.

I think about Joe Biden and Cris Dodd and the experience they bring to the table, Richardson, Kucinch, Edwards were all great candidates, I don't know if Hillary and Obama were the best candidates, but they certainly opened dialogue on the issues in this country and educated a ton of people on the process of Democracy and that is and has been a great thing. I will be very happy to go into the summer making a united effort to shift this country into a better place.

I read the other day that "faith was being sure there was solid ground beneath your feet and if there wasn't, sure that you would be given instructions on how to fly." I think we may be flying over the next four years while we work our way out of the damage of the last eight. Keep looking for those flying instructions.

That's very interesting what you said there, Cap'n Sally. Do ya think we'd better be looking for parachutes, too?

Oh man, you bet Shy. Looking over the damage of the last 8 years, I think we need lots of parachutes as do the candidates. The hope that all the dem candidates would have to carry with them is enormous, I don't give a plug nickle for McCain as a good president. I think he would just be the continuation of the disaster we've had. I keep thinking however of the yin and yang of life; we've just been through the worst president in the history of this country, I'm thinking we are due for the best president or at least one of them.

Cap'n Sally, I can only say Yippeeeeeeeee! It's been a long, hard slog. Ordering my parachute next week. Think I'll go with a blue one. I trust you and Miz Morgana are gonna pilot/co-pilot our snazzy plane as we proceed into the wild blue future.

Morgana, nice article as always.

This primary season has seemed so endless but never has it seemed pointless. We have seen Hillary fall from her pedestal (actually I think she was shoved by Bill and her advisers); we have seen an obscure lawyer from Illinois step forth onto the national stage and absolutely captivate large numbers of people. We have seen grace under pressure from both sides and for those who care to look we have seen passionate commitments from both Hillary and Barack to undo the damage of the last 8 years. A very tall order indeed. Either one of these candidates would make a good if not great president. Heck, even I would make a good president compared to what we have endured over the past 8 years. I am glad that West Virginia gets a voice. I think all states should have a voice before this thing is decided.

http://www.rawstory.com/news/mochila/Obama_campaign_mulls_joint_appearan_05112008.html

Obama campaign mulls joint appearances with McCain

Obama's campaign says it's considering McCain campaign suggestion for joint appearances

Barack Obama's campaign is considering a suggestion from John McCain's campaign for the two presidential hopefuls to participate in joint town meetings and debates around the country starting this summer, Obama's chief strategist said Sunday.

John McCain is the expected Republican presidential nominee. Obama is closing in on the Democratic nod.

Asked about the suggestion and how seriously it was being considered, David Axelrod, Obama's chief campaign strategist said: "Very seriously."

"We believe that is the most significant election we've faced in a long time," he said on "Fox News Sunday."

"We're at war. Our economy is in turmoil. And we've got so many challenges that the people of this country deserve a serious discourse, and it shouldn't be limited necessarily to three kind of very regimented debates in the fall," he added, referring to those sanctioned by a presidential commission.

Axelrod declined to discuss details. So did aides to McCain, saying they'd rather wait until they have an official opponent.

"We ought to begin sooner, and we ought to have a free-flowing conversation about where we want to take this country," Axelrod said. "So you know, we're interested in that proposal and eager to sit down and talk about it."

More at the link......

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http://rawstory.com/rawreplay/?p=1027

CBS: America’s infrastructure is crumbling
By David Edwards

Unless more funding and effort are put into saving the nation’s infrastructure, it will continue to crumble, say experts. An estimated $1.5 trillion over the next five years could be needed to avoid large-scale disaster.

“When infrastructure declines, we’re going to become a second-rate country,” says engineer and former New York City transportation commissioner “Gridlock Sam” Schwartz.

“No matter where you live, there are critical infrastructure issues,” says David Mongan, president of the American Society of Civil Engineers. “In some cities, bridges, roads, power lines, pipelines; are simply too old. In others, the explosive population growth has outpaced [their] infrastructure’s ability to satisfy the needs.”

The following video report was broadcast on CBS’ Early Show on May 10, 2008.

More at the link....

China was hit with a 7.8 quake this morning. Hope BJ checks in soon.

Our thoughts and prayers go out to the people of China.

Here's the preliminary astrology chart for the earthquake.

http://morganaseawalker.com/ChengduQuake2008.jpg

Morgana, thank you for looking at WVA. There are just too many layers of consciousness to continue labeling states as racist. Sure, there are pockets of racism, but. . .

One of the more racist parts of the country, one i've lived in is the northern midwest. Having lived in the South for quite some time now, the racism is just not of the same ilk it was in the north. More, the influx of people from all around the country to the South has instigated a need for change. Like wv, i know many people who are voting did vote for Obama in the primary and intend to vote for him should he become the dem candidate.

It will be interesting to see how the WVA primary does play out.

The violent earth changes are taking place throughout the globe. Wasn't it you, wv, who always provided a link to Mandeville's earth changes bulletin? Yes, i sure hope we hear from Betsy soon.

For those of you interested in financial reality, check out this link...

a daily blog, very interesting and informative. The guy's a repub, but he is, it seems, one interested in truth rather than fiction

http://market-ticker.denninger.net/

speaking of crumbling infrastructure....the financial infrastructure of this country is in desperate straits.

BULLETIN ITEM: Eurasia Cracking At Sichuan China - 7.8 Quake followed by strong
Class 5+ Aftershocks Every 30 Minutes Or Less

by MW Mandeville (for release to all media)

[May 12, 2008 ECB] This Great Quake emerged as a simple fault snap, suddenly
and without warning. Although it struck in an earthquake prone area of
Southeast Eurasia, far inland from subduction zones, the quake had no major
pre-cursors in the area, unlike the recent large quake near Japan. Following
this quake large aftershocks continue to shake the area as frequently as every
15 minutes. Existing metrics as of Monday morning which describe this quake are
likely very inaccurate. This inner continental quake has killed perhaps ten(s)
of thousands but the numbers will likely rapidly rise like the still on-going
disaster in Myanmar.

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/earthchange-bulletins/message/4575

http://www.thestandard.com.hk/news_detail.asp?pp_cat=16&art_id=65697&sid=18894420&con_type=3

THE STANDARD, Hong Kong

Nearly 9,000 dead as quake toll mounts

Tuesday, May 13, 2008

The death toll from the massive earthquake that struck central China yesterday killing at least 8,533 people in Sichuan alone is likely to rise sharply as rescuers face a desperate race against time to save victims, including nearly 900 students buried under the rubble of their school.
Two chemical plants collapsed in Shifang city, to the southeast of the epicenter, burying hundreds of people and sending more than 80 tonnes of toxic liquid ammonia leaking, state media reported. At least one hospital was also flattened.

In Beichuan county, just east of the epicenter, 80 percent of the buildings had collapsed and some 10,000 people were injured on top of the 3,000 to 5,000 killed in the district, Xinhua News Agency said.

The situation in at least two other counties remains unclear.

The People's Daily Online

http://english.people.com.cn/

Interesting take on Tibet and China...

http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90776/90883/6407033.html

What is Nancy Pelosi really up to?
+ - 15:32, April 14, 2008

Related News
FM spokesperson says U.S. House Speaker Pelosi's proposed resolution on Tibet "with ulterior motives"
China strongly discontented with U.S. House Speaker Pelosi's statement on Beijing Olympics


The ongoing Olympic torch relay around the world has drawn high attention and enthusiastic welcome of various countries and their populace. People, too, have also heard some disharmonious voices, and the noise interference of U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is among such voices.

Ms. Nancy Pelosi seems to object to whatever China does. This time, China is greeting the incoming grand event of the Beijing Olympic Games with an enthusiastic, nationwide attention, and the country is striving to run an Olympics with the highest national standards required to show achievements of the three-decade reform and opening-up that was launched in the late 1970s, and the entirely-new concepts on international cooperation and a shared glory. But the US House speaker seems quite resentful of this.

http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90780/91342/6392288.html

Nancy Pelosi has consistently opposed China's human rights record.

wv thanks for the Mandeville link pretty interesting. For all the activity around the Ring of Fire we're seeing lots of weird quake activity in Nevada. I figure we're due to pop pretty hard here on the West Coast, Juan de Fuca plate if active, Cascadia active, San Andreas always active. His take on this heralding an El Nino is interesting. The horrendous tornado season is the worst since 1950, doesn't bode well for hurricane season.

The earthquake hit one of the last homes of the giant panda at the Wolong Nature Reserve and panda breeding center, in Wenchuan county, which remained out of contact, Xinhua said.
The Wolong PandaCam, a live online video feed showing the activities of the pandas at the nature reserve, stopped showing footage of the animals late Sunday night. About 1,200 pandas — 80 percent of the surviving wild population in China — live in several mountainous areas of Sichuan.
The earthquake, China's deadliest since 1976, occurred in an area with numerous fault lines that have triggered destructive temblors before. A magnitude 7.5 earthquake in Diexi, Sichuan that hit on August 25, 1933 killed more than 9,300 people.

(This is just 6 months after the deadly Long Beach, CA earthquake of Mar 10, 1933. This was the quake responsible for CA having the strictest building codes in the country.) It will be interesting to see if there is a correlation for CA....

This report reflects the kind of people I got to know when I was in Asia. They are truly beautiful people with no part in the political idiocy of the government. These people have resisted going to the urban areas to become cheap labor for companies like Walmart.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Isb8kU2bPiU&NR=1

Sadly this earthquake also hit the giant panda reserve as well.

Oh that Neptunian media!

FOX 5 goes subliminal in the Presidential campaign.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSAOQuLxSdY

Bob Barr announced he was running for President today on the Libertarian Party ticket. I have a noon Washington, DC time. Sun trine Jupiter rx, Pluto inconjunct Mars, Moon/Saturn trine Pluto. Mix him with Ron Paul folks and the GOP may have a huge mess on there hands come November.

Bob Barr was one of the driving forces in the impeachment of Bill Clinton. So I guess his announcing today, a day of some pretty massive destruction makes a weird kind of sense.

Now for some reason I thought Mike Gravel was also angling for that slot on the Libertarian Party ticket, or maybe he was going Green? Anyone know?

Karen

I am fine. I am in Tulsa, Oklahoma. My email address is this one Bettiejtripp2002@yahoo.com and I would love to hear from you and anyone else. Thanks to everyone who asked about me.

Betsy

The cat, the crow

http://www.slide.com/r/hD6DvyAOxD9ClUhvUpVcUMABW9QzpGnQ

and the pony.

http://www.wwltv.com/local/stories/wwl052906jbpony.35a582f7.html

Just wanted to post some spiritual nourishment.

First things first: Betsy is ok. One big collective "Whew!" goes up from all assembled here. And then there are big smiles.

What I don't understand is how Betsy, who always writes from China, can be in Oklahoma (talk about a change of scenery! Well, at least there are no earthquakes in OK) writing an email to Karen which is posted by wv here at A/W. Ya gotta love the internets (thanks, Al!).

Regarding the post above: I'm being silly because I'm relieved to know that Betsy is OK (pun intended). No need to provide any explanation whatsoever. Just be safe.

Shy that is definitely a collective whew! Geeze the tornadoes raking the Mid-West are pretty destructive as well, stay safe in Oklahoma Betsy!

What a relief that you are ok Betsy but for heaven sake dodge those tornados in Oklahoma.
We are all so happy that you aren't in China, you were the first person I thought about when I heard the earthquake had hit. I also have some friends traveling over there and we don't know about them, the fact that you're ok is a good omen.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/13/science/13astr.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Two New Ways to Explore the Virtual Universe, in Vivid 3-D

Left, Worldwide Telescope; center, Stuart Isett for The New York Times; Google
Neptune, left, on WorldWideTelescope.org. Curtis Wong, left in center photo, and Jonathan Fay of Microsoft, and the Orion Nebula on Google Sky.

By STEVE LOHR
Published: May 13, 2008
The skies may be the next frontier in travel, yet not even the wealthiest space tourist can zoom out to, say, the Crab Nebula, the Trapezium Cluster or Eta Carinae, a star 100 times more massive than the Sun and 7,500 light-years away.

But those galactic destinations and thousands of others can now be toured and explored at the controls of a computer mouse, with the constellations, stars and space dust displayed in vivid detail and animated imagery across the screen. The project, the WorldWide Telescope, is the culmination of years of work by researchers at Microsoft, and the Web site and free downloadable software are available starting on Tuesday, at www.WorldWideTelescope.org.

May 13, 2008
Editorial

The Myth of Voter Fraud

Missouri and at least 19 other states are considering passing laws that would force people to prove their citizenship before they can vote. These bills are not a sincere effort to prevent noncitizens from voting; that is a made-up problem. The real aim is to reduce turnout by eligible voters. Republicans seem to think that laws of this kind will help them win elections, but burdensome rules like these — and others cropping up around the country — pose a serious threat to democracy and should be stopped.

The Missouri legislature is, as Ian Urbina reported in The Times on Monday, on the verge of passing an amendment to the State Constitution that would require proof of citizenship from anyone registering to vote. In addition to the Missouri amendment, which would require voter approval, Florida, Kansas, South Carolina and other states are considering similar rules.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/13/opinion/13tue1.html?pagewanted=print

http://www.alternet.org/story/85080/

It Isn't Morning in America Anymore - It's Dusk on Planet Earth

Even for Americans, constitutionally convinced that there will always be a second act, and a third, and a do-over after that, and, if necessary, a little public repentance and forgiveness and a Brand New Start -- even for us, the world looks a little Terminal right now.

It's not just the economy. We've gone through swoons before. It's that gas at $4 a gallon means we're running out, at least of the cheap stuff that built our sprawling society. It's that when we try to turn corn into gas, it sends the price of a loaf of bread shooting upwards and starts food riots on three continents. It's that everything is so inextricably tied together. It's that, all of a sudden, those grim Club of Rome types who, way back in the 1970s, went on and on about the "limits to growth" suddenly seem how best to put it, right.

All of a sudden it isn't morning in America, it's dusk on planet Earth.
There's a number -- a new number -- that makes this point most powerfully. It may now be the most important number on Earth: 350. As in parts per million (ppm) of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.

A few weeks ago, our foremost climatologist, NASA's Jim Hansen, submitted a paper to Science magazine with several co-authors. The abstract attached to it argued -- and I have never read stronger language in a scientific paper -- "if humanity wishes to preserve a planet similar to that on which civilization developed and to which life on earth is adapted, paleoclimate evidence and ongoing climate change suggest that CO2 will need to be reduced from its current 385 ppm to at most 350 ppm." Hansen cites six irreversible tipping points -- massive sea level rise and huge changes in rainfall patterns, among them -- that we'll pass if we don't get back down to 350 soon; and the first of them, judging by last summer's insane melt of Arctic ice, may already be behind us.
So it's a tough diagnosis. It's like the doctor telling you that your cholesterol is way too high and, if you don't bring it down right away, you're going to have a stroke. So you take the pill, you swear off the cheese, and, if you're lucky, you get back into the safety zone before the coronary. It's like watching the tachometer edge into the red zone and knowing that you need to take your foot off the gas before you hear that clunk up front.

In this case, though, it's worse than that because we're not taking the pill and we are stomping on the gas -- hard. Instead of slowing down, we're pouring on the coal, quite literally. Two weeks ago came the news that atmospheric carbon dioxide had jumped 2.4 parts per million last year -- two decades ago, it was going up barely half that fast.

More at the link...

My, my I feel important....

Bill called!

Hillary called!

Obama called!

Michelle called!

and I got $300 from W.

What a great day!

Cheers wv!

Dr. Jeff Masters (weather dude) has a really interesting article up today about the clustering of significant disasters such as Cyclone Nagris (a once in 500 years cyclone), and the China quake which it too will get a name. I'm looking forward to checking out the aspects of the clusterings, because there is just so much going occurring right now under this transit.

It's fascinating reading if you're a history junkie. It's one of my favorite sites and I visit it daily during hurricane season. Check it out if you have time.

http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=939&tstamp=200805

Hey any of you folks you can do that tiny url thing for my above link I'd appreciate it.

Thanks.

Morgana, here you go.

http://tinyurl.com/

Thanks PatC!

Here's the link to Dr. Jeff Master's blog:

http://tinyurl.com/52ye5d

You're welcome Morgana! Great site...thank you!

OK, Try not to split a gut laughing.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080513/pl_afp/usiraqpoliticsbushgolf_080513212030

[snip]
WASHINGTON (AFP) - US President George W. Bush said in an interview out Tuesday that he quit playing golf in 2003 out of respect for the families of US soldiers killed in the conflict in Iraq, now in its sixth year.
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"I think playing golf during a war just sends the wrong signal," he said in an interview for Internet hub Yahoo! and Politico magazine.

"I don't want some mom whose son may have recently died to see the commander-in-chief playing golf," he said. "I feel I owe it to the families to be in solidarity as best as I can with them."

more...

I too, thought of Betsy last night, since we hadn't heard from her for a while. Happy to hear she is Ok, but not so happy to hear that she's in OK, because of all the inclement weather in that neck of the woods. Boy, Mother N sure is wreaking havoc in every corner of the world.

Morgana, thanks for that well-researched article on WV. Being deficient in American history, I'm always glad to get information on how and when each individual state came of age.

I also think you may be right about the hurricane season. It got hot really early in the spring, and I just get the feeling that something is coming down the pipeline. The birds have been noisier than usual lately, and last night for the first time in the 4 years that I've lived here in Central FL, a possum made its way up to the second floor landing where I live. Never saw that before. I think he/she was living under a house across the alley, but I had never seen the critter until last night. I thought maybe it knows a flood or something is coming, so it was doing its practice run to higher ground.
Anyway, I too plan on fleeing at the end of the month, though I'm not sure in which direction.
Conditions are very dry here in FL right now, and we have a number of brush fires burning, but you know what happens when it suddenly rains after a long drought - deluge; and my area is prone to flooding.

HURRAY! I'M BACK.....VIA country roads bringing me home but not in WV! ( NY MAss)
AND so is Betsy! Welcome home!
Yes, I don't have a blue parachute.....but I pictured white wings on my little old car; and it made it down & back leaving in it's wake fires, tornados & floods where I had just been!
I don't know for certain; but those old books I
illustrated 30 years ago, & we retrieved May 5th, were stored in an old garage in Brevard Co near the fire there! I hauled 168 of them home and my Brother & Sister-in-law, have another 125 in thir garage.
I didn't realize it but when he spent the year in VIenna, back in the 70's, he was at the IAEA, in the Ag div,. testing animal hormone levels with radio-isotopes! And then teaching the pr!ocess in Indonesia! Fascinating!
He says cloned meat is OK to eat! A very informed opinion.......( He's one of the top equine reproductive physiology specialists in the world.)
Was great to have family all together again

Pat and Betsy! Safe and sound. Blessings to both of you!

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From Shy:

Marjorie Orr took a look at the earthquake in China and found (twice!) that the 1912 chart produced much clearer results.

China Earthquake From: Marjorie. (13 May 2008 15:46):

The massive 7.8 on the Richter scale earthquake in China with major loss of life shows up more clearly on the 1912 Republic of China chart than on the later 1949 one. Transitting Neptune is exactly square the afflicted Mars (conj Moon Saturn opp Venus) which is panicky. Uranus is also within less than a degree of the sextile to Neptune which is natally in opposition to Uranus. Uranus Neptune is very highly strung and this opposition was around when the 1906 San Francisco earthquake occurred with devastating consequences.

The previous hugely damaging Chinese earthquake of a similar magnitude to this one in 1976 when 2400,000 died, shows up clearly as well on the 1912 chart with Pluto exactly square the Sun which tends to be devastating and destructive on a national chart, though it symbolically clears the way for new beginnings. In 1976 the transitting Mars (square Neptune) was also picking up Saturn in Taurus which brings tough conditions, especially tied as Saturn is natally into the Moon and Mars in Taurus.

From Judi:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080513/ap_on_re_as/china_earthquake

snip

The industrial city of 700,000 people — home to the headquarters of China’s nuclear weapons design industry — was turned into a thronging refugee camp, with residents sleeping outdoors.

France’s nuclear protection watchdog said it did not know whether there had been any damage to Chinese nuclear facilities in the quake region. Without giving specifics, the Institute for Radiological Protection and Nuclear Safety said “some” facilities were less than 60 miles from the epicenter.

More at the link…

One of the many sad things about the China quake is the many children that died
900 in that one school. Since China has had the Only One Child policy for many
years, a great many people lost their only
child.

That is a terrific insight WV...something which we don't think of in our social context.

I did think about that one child Chinese policy when I saw the rescue workers dragging children out from under the rubble, and the inconsolable parents.

Terrorist ants? Well, they're attacking the infrastructure in George Bush's home state. Hahaha.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080514/ap_on_re_us/texas_ants

John Edwards to endorse Barack Obama. Go to any news site, since it's now everywhere.

Rove Refuses to Testify on Siegelman Issue
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/051408A.shtml
Ben Evans reports for The Associated Press: "A House Judiciary Committee deadline passed Monday with former White House adviser Karl Rove standing by his refusal to testify about allegations that he pushed the Justice Department to prosecute former Alabama Gov. Don Siegelman."

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China Quake Toll Nears 15,000
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/051408B.shtml
For The Los Angeles Times, Mark Magnier and Barbara Demick report: "As rescue workers plowed deeper into the wreckage left from Monday's earthquake, uncovering more victims trapped in the most remote mountain villages near the epicenter in Sichuan Province, the death toll soared to nearly 15,000. The new figure was announced by Chinese state news services as night fell Wednesday in China. Now more than 48 hours after the quake, the hope for surviving is dimming and some officials said they expect the death toll to climb to 20,000."

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Conservative Democrats Fight GI Bill Benefits
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/051408C.shtml
Mike Lillis, for the Washington Independent, writes on the state of the GI Bill. As Iraq veterans struggle to pay post-combat tuition, both the GOP and Blue Dog Democrats are blocking legislation to up their education benefits.

Here is John Edwards giving his speech in Michigan, endorsing Barack Obama. It will make your skin speak and your mind wonder why the press buried him.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/05/14/breaking-john-edwards-endorses-barack-obama/

Pat C, Edwards was ignored precisely because of his goodness and greatness. He stuck it out and he continued to speak and he did push the other two candidates toward stronger positions on vital issues throughout his campaign.

PS I sure hope he gets that jet-ski and a matching one for Elizabeth, too.

Oh, and the jet-ski reference comes from here:

http://tinyurl.com/6d6p59

Welcome back qop, your voice was sorely missed. Glad to have you home. How's the weather, we have rain (yea) and snow (not so yea) but it isn't going to go below freezing and that's good. How's your car, guess it got you home ok.

I think it must be a good sign that qop is home safe and Betsy is home safe and sound from China but it's hard not to feel great sadness for China and Myanmar this week and weeks to come. There is no recovery for them, just rebuilding now in a slow and painful process. I would like to ask everyone so moved to stop for a few minutes every day and imagine better days ahead for them

Thank you Sally & All..........
Sorry about your weather. We've passed the last frost date here in Me and I'm home in time for the most special magical week, that is Spring here.
I'm in an intensly personal mode for the next 2 weeks 'till the book deadline,and had a report from a friend who is taking a course on Monty Python at the University, that the Producer of the book just "loves me" which is great, no micromanagement here!
I am amazed at my date with "DESTINY" in N Florida. Not only did I retrieve those books illustrated years ago;( almost 300), BUT,
when my Brother's Internet connection went down, I went to the Gainesville library to use the computer & MET a descendant of one of the characters in the book I am working on. He passed on my e-mail to his brother the historian, and Sat.I got HIS version of what happened in Machias in 1775, with details that I wasn't aware of and very specific details & references for the visuals, ( the boats involved).
Lends wings to my fingers to know I am on track doing what I'm meant to be doing!
Love you all!

Hi All, Here's an interesting article written by a man who survived the Soviet collapse and compares what happened there to what we might expect here if a collapse happened. It's the second article.

http://tinyurl.com/3vn393

Wow, Qop, you're back! I'm so glad your trip went well, car and book and all!

May 15, 2008
Tiny Bodies in a Morgue, and Grief in China

By JIM YARDLEY
JUYUAN, China — The bodies are everywhere. Some are zipped inside white vinyl bags and strewn on the floor. Others have been covered in a favorite blanket or dressed in new clothes. There are so many bodies that undertakers want to cremate them in groups. They are all children.

“Our grief is incomparable,” said Li Ping, 39, eyes rimmed red, as he and his wife slowly, carefully pulled a pair of pink pajamas over the bruised, naked body of their 8-year-old daughter, Ke. “We got married late, and had a child late. She is our only child.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/15/world/asia/15morgue.html?_r=1&hp=&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print

This appears to be the entire speech given by John Edwards and the following link is the transcript.

http://politicsanew.com/2008/05/14/edwards-speech-on-endorsement-of-obama-see-video/

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/14/us/politics/14text-edwards.html?ref=politics

wv, what I've seen of the Chinese governments response has been heartening. They are doing for their people what I expected to see our Mr. Bush and his cronies do for the Katrina victims. But Bush wrote a page for the Myanmar Junta to follow, the do nothings, let no one come in and help, let the poor, the weak, die.

The situation in both countries is heart breaking so every day I will picture their recovery.

I was contemplating yesterday's news about Edwards's endorsement, and thinking that maybe if Obama chose him as his running mate, he might be able to help close that white working class gap that Obama seems to be struggling with, but I just hope that for Edwards, it won't be the proverbial "always a bridesmaid, never a bride". Anyway, I found an article that was expressing the same point of view, but the comments all seem to express the opposite view. I don't know what kind of blog this is, whether right, left, or center, but the readers' reaction to the article is very interesting. Please take a read.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/politicalinsider/2008/05/the-case-for-edwards-as-obamas.html

The above link didn't work for me, so I'm posting it again. Hope it works this time.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/politicalinsider/2008/05/the-case-for-edwards-as-obamas.html

Welcome home, QOP! I'd love to see that almost-magical car you've been driving in while spreading good (bue) cheer around the countryside. Perhaps you could work it in one of your watercolors for Calendar 2009.

http://www.uncountedthemovie.com/trailer.html

Uncounted - the movie

The New Math of American Elections

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/14/olbermann-to-bush-this-wa_n_101831.html

Tonight, Keith Olbermann unleashed what may well have been his angriest, most blistering Special Comment yet, aimed squarely at his favorite target: President Bush. Olbermann was responding to Bush's claim that he had given up golf in honor of the Iraq war — and his assertion that a Democratic president withdrawing from Iraq would "eventually lead to another attack on the United States" — a statement Olbermann called "ludicrous, infuriating, holier-than-thou and most importantly bone-headedly wrong." Olbermann continued in that vein for a full 12 minutes (or 2,000 words), frequently raising his voice and spitting out his words in disgust.
You gotta love this guy!.....so satisfying to listen to.

Ok, finally up on youtube, here is the complete speech from John Edwards and the like works.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzkAjd3xQ7w

I saw that one from KO pat. His closing words to Bush were, "Shut the hell up!".

Bush's remarks before the Kenneset about
Obama are out of line. What a putz!
I hope his mohel is crosseyed.

A spark for life just appeared in the House:

http://tinyurl.com/6ljdhs

Fingers crossed!

I don't think Bush was referring to Obama. I think he was probably referring to President Carter, but even Republican Colin Powell said that we should be talking to Hamas, and Robert Gates suggested contact with Iran. So what? I think Bush just ran out of talking points, so he decided to throw in something that would pander to the Israelis with his usual bluster.

"Talking" is one thing; "appeasement" is giving up something critical, which Chamberlain did when he signed the agreement with Hitler in 1938 which conceded part of Czechoslavakia to Hitler. (see wikipedia)

Also, since Junya's granddaddy Prescott had some very interesting business deals with the Nazis, in violation of the U.S. Trading with the Enemy Act, I think whoever wrote Junya's speech to the Knesset probably deserves to (but won't) be fired.

http://tinyurl.com/3fzstb

(The comments to the article above are often as interesting as the article itself.)

I heard part of that speech on NPR and was just confounded and pissed.

I just hung up the phone after listening to a message from our East Bay Municipal Services which said that we're now officially on water rationing status. That means we are not allowed to use water in a hose to clean our patios or driveways. We can still water our lawns but only three days a week and not on two consecutive days. There will be penalties and fines for violations.

http://www.atlargely.com/2008/05/all-the-preside.html

find all the dots now.....comments from Larrisa Alexander on the Knesset speech by our fearless leader.

Luna, hot hot hot...San Bruno has a breeze, but it is hot. I went landscape painting at about 9:15 am this morning in Palo Alto at the Baylands Preserve (which I do twice a week)...no idea what the temperature was, but luckily for our group, there was a hose there used by the kayakers to hose off....so I did my head. It was probably 100 by noon, when I staggered home, and hour and a half early.

We didn't get enough rain, did we....after torrential conditions the year before, this year...nada. There hasn't been rationing since the 1970's (I was in AZ then). LA also making big plans to combat water shortages.

My art teacher (a total renaissance kind of guy) told me global warming is based on mathematical formulas to project stable graphs and figures on the warming trends which were developed a century ago by a Russian scientist (if I remember that part right). All the global warming data are based on this particular formula which is skewed towards stability.

He said it is more worrisome that last year 158,000 squ.miles of ice fields were added in Antarctica and that it was far more likely the planet would suffer a huge global ice age. Not over a period of say, 100 years...but in 5-6 hours. Remember how they've dug up the mammoths who were wiped out and they found fresh buttercups in their mouths, frozen in the act of eating? Jim said it was from an enormous frigid down draft in the Arctic which smashed down, hit the ground, and spread outwards, freezing everything in its path. That was about 12,000 years ago.

Jim is a scientist as well as artist....lets hope he isn't a psychic.

Obama birth time announced at UAC by Joni Paltry. 7:11 pm, Hawaii time.

Why do I ave to sign in every time I post?

If I am to be quick frozen, I hope I am eating something nice too!
We had water restrictions in Medford Lakes NJ, land of the aquifers, back in the 80's. A firetruck with a bull horn would circulate the community, announcing it.
A torrential rainstorm, knocked out all their dams in 2004. Added to the 10 m cost to rebuild them ( FEMA ONLY KICKED IN 1 M, ) they are being sued 10 M by the towns downstream that were destroyed!
( the suit includes the YMCA & Girlscout Camps)

Bob, I don't know the answer to your question ("Why?"), but it seems to me I have to sign in about once every 24 hours--regardless of how many comments I've posted in the interim. And checking the box about keeping your sign-in active for two weeks doesn't work, either. You know computers--they have minds of their own. Or sumpthin'.

http://www.democracynow.org/2008/5/13/fmr_military_intelligence_officer_reveals_us

Fmr. Military Intelligence Sgt. Reveals US Listed Palestine Hotel in Baghdad as Target Prior to Killing of Two Journalists in 2003

Last month marked the fifth anniversary of the US military shelling of the Palestine Hotel in Baghdad. The attack killed two journalists: Reuters cameraman Taras Protsyuk and Jose Couso, a cameraman for the Spanish television network Telecinco. The Pentagon has called the killings accidental, but in this broadcast exclusive Army Sgt. Adrienne Kinne (Ret.) reveals she saw secret US military documents that listed the hotel as a possible target. Kinne also discloses that she was personally ordered to eavesdrop on Americans working for news organizations and NGOs in Iraq.

The computers have made up their chips and anything else just leads to confusion. Resistance is futile.

I don't know why you all have to sign in every time but I am trying to find out because you shouldn't, I have ok'd everyone except the obvious hackers.

Bob on the Obama time, were they citing a birth certificate? You know how Lois Rodden's site has the grading system of birthtimes from not too reliable to very reliable, does the UAC have the same rating system?

Burmese death toll nearly 78,000

TheStar.com - World - Burmese death toll nearly 78,000


ASSOCIATED PRESS
A boy walks past a cyclone-damaged restaurant near Yangon, Burma, May 15. The Red Cross estimated the cyclone death toll could be as high as 128,000, much higher than a tally by the government, which continued to issue few visas to foreign aid experts. May 15, 2008 May 16, 2008
The Associated Press

RANGOON, Burma – The cyclone's official death toll has nearly doubled to almost 78,000 and another 56,000 people remain missing two weeks after the devastating storm, state television reported Friday.

The United Nations, meanwhile, said that severe restrictions by Burma's military junta have left aid agencies largely in the dark about the extent of survivors' suffering.

John Holmes, U.N. undersecretary-general for humanitarian affairs, will go to Burma on Sunday in an attempt to convince junta leaders to grant more access to U.N. relief workers and massively scale up aid efforts, said Amanda Pitt, a U.N. spokeswoman in Bangkok, Thailand.

With pressure mounting, the military regime has invited foreign diplomats to tour the hard-hit Irrawaddy delta on Saturday, providing their first opportunity to personally view the devastation.

http://www.thestar.com/printArticle/426110

Regarding the tens of thousands of death that have resulted from earth movement......I have no words that are sufficient. This is awesomely tragic.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/15/exclusive-video-mccain-wa_n_102031.html

Exclusive Video: McCain Was For Talking To Hamas Before He Was Against It...

http://www.gregpalast.com/poppy-strikes-gold/#more-2006

paragraph #9..............

"They could well afford it. In the final days of the Bush (Senior) administration, the Interior Department made an extraordinary but little noticed change in procedures under the 1872 Mining Law, the gold rush–era act that permitted those whiskered small-time prospectors with their tin pans and mules to stake claims on their tiny plots. The department initiated an expedited procedure for mining companies that allowed Barrick to swiftly lay claim to the largest gold find in America. In the terminology of the law, Barrick could "perfect its patent" on the estimated $10 billion in ore—for which Barrick paid the U.S. Treasury a little under $10,000. Eureka!

Barrick, of course, had to put up cash for the initial property rights and the cost of digging out the booty (and the cost of donations, in smaller amounts, to support Nevada's Democratic senator, Harry Reid). Still, the shift in rules paid off big time: According to experts at the Mineral Policy Center of Washington, DC, Barrick saved—and the U.S. taxpayer lost—a cool billion or so. Upon taking office, Bill Clinton's new interior secretary, Bruce Babbitt, called Barrick's claim the "biggest gold heist since the days of Butch Cassidy." Nevertheless, because the company followed the fast-track process laid out for them under Bush, this corporate Goldfinger had Babbitt by the legal nuggets. Clinton had no choice but to give them the gold mine while the public got the shaft."

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/05/16/stop-lossed-soldier-refuses-to-redeploy-to-iraq/

Stop-Lossed Soldier Refuses To Redeploy To Iraq

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This one is good for a good laugh.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/24655385#24655385

For those who can read Chinese (Betsy?), there is a site here in the US that bloggers in China are sending reports to about what is happening there. Although efforts are made to protect identity, apparently some of the bloggers have been arrested. Wish I could read Chinese.

http://www.boxun.com/

Here's the article where I learned about the boxun.com site:

http://tinyurl.com/5h45w9

LARISA ALEXANDROVNA

All the President's Nazis
(Real and Imagined):
An Open Letter to Bush

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larisa-alexandrovna/all-the-presidents-nazis_b_102022.html

PatC,
She put that together really well. There was also a diary on DKOS with a lot of the same information. Wonder if KO will pick up on it tonight, his adverts for tonight are hinting at some drama.

This was emailed to me this morning, and it was incredibly refreshing.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0508/10402.html

Hi Sally,

Thanks for your answer. Here is a link where the announcement is explained. No birth certificate to be seen.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/3szkle

I had stopped using a time given on ADB for another popular time of 1:06 pm but have revisited the former time today and am inclined to go back to using it as it works for me, not intuitively but figuratively, with the charts I do for various events in his life.

Thanks again.

Bob

Morgana, I'd say that one came from the heart. I'll be watching KO with hopes that he lays this one out for everyone to see.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/37416.html

Sanchez on Iraq errors: Don't blame me, I was just a general

(in part) Sanchez said the key window for the United States to turn the situation around in Iraq opened with the capture of Saddam Hussein in December 2003.

It closed the following April, he said, when the U.S. made two key mistakes: It launched its first major offensive into Fallujah and decided not to capture Sadr, whose Shiite militia has since grown into one of Iraq's most powerful forces.

Sanchez said he advised President Bush not to go into Fallujah in April 2004 after four private security contractors were taken hostage and killed. Their burned bodies were hung from a bridge as Iraqis celebrated beneath them. The widely circulated photos were grotesque.

Sanchez said he feared that proponents of attacking Fallujah were being driven by a knee-jerk reaction to the photos and not by any consideration of the difficulty of moving into the city, which had been a troublesome redoubt of anti-American insurgents since the day U.S. troops toppled Saddam.

He said he advised against the offensive. The president "appreciated our caution but then ordered us to attack," Sanchez wrote.

That battle ended in failure less than a month later and signaled to the insurgency that the U.S. would walk away from a major fight.

That same month, the U.S. had a chance to arrest Sadr, but Sanchez said that L. Paul Bremer, then the head of the Coalition Provincial Authority, called off the operation. Sadr has been haunting U.S. efforts in Iraq ever since.

PatC, Sanchez is just as guilty of war crimes as the former joynt cheef of staff, can't remember his name, but saw in the Guardian that he was in London telling them how Bushco fooled them. These guys are scurrying like rats. War crimes has no statute of limitations.

"...scurrying like rats", yes ma'am! Just like rats. It won't work, at least I hope it won't work.

Over at emptywheel's place, one witty comment on van Spakovsky's withdrawal went something like this: Things are so bad that even the deck chairs are throwing themselves off the Titanic.

I would tend to think that the 7:11 p.m. birth time for Obama is correct, because I always saw him as a Uranian/Saturnine type, and not as one with Scorpio rising. This birth time will give him Aquarius rising which both Uranus and Saturn rule. I hope this is the correct time because that will place Jupiter in the 12th which always protects the native from serious harm. It's like having a guardian angel watching over you, and if even harm does come to the person, there is always a mitigating factor. However, I don't see any compelling indication in the horoscope of holding a high position in public office, but I didn't study the chart closely.

Here is the chart.

http://tinyurl.com/3h4rlw

This article was posted on Salon, very interesting.

http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17897

Dvorak.Org: The Experts Are Starting To Say The 9/11

Conspiracy Wackos May Be Right

William Rodriguez, an acknowledged hero of 9/11 who single-handedly rescued fifteen people from the North Tower, described a massive explosion in the basement which occurred before the first plane struck, pushing him upwards out of the seat of his chair.

The New York Fire Department’s oral histories project contains 118 witness statements which are strongly consistent with explosive demolition. Incredibly, none of this shocking testimony was included or acknowledged in any official investigation, including the 9/11 Commission.

More...

(The interesting part is that this is getting play at John C. Dvorak's blog. Check out the comments there if you have time.)

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzaqXFcsH2U

FCCFU

I am like you Bob, I am not quite sure I trust the time and neither did I trust the 1:06pm time. It's really easy to rectify a chart toward something an astrologer wants to see because that's what they believe, but 9 times out of 10 it's inaccurate. I agree with Crystal however in the 7:11 pm chart I don't see (what I want to see) any strength for a national figure. I did hear from a colleague who said it was DD (Rodden's Dirty Data) information. Came from a person connected to the campaign or someone that knew someone connected to the campaign. So I don't know

5 million people are now thought to be homeless in China's earthquake zone. Yet they tell us the nuclear facilities have only sustained 'minor' damage.

http://tinyurl.com/3f9hj9

[snip]
...the Chinese reported ''light damage'' to older nuclear facilities that were being dismantled before the quake, noting that seismic construction codes were less strict when those sites were built. China did not specify which facilities had damage, he said.

Phones calls to China's Ministry of Environmental Protection and its Nuclear and Radiation Safety Center went unanswered Saturday. A man who answered the phone at the ministry's Nuclear Safety Department said he had no information.

China has a research reactor, two nuclear fuel production sites and two atomic weapons sites in Sichuan province, where the quake struck, the French agency said. All were 40 to 90 miles from the epicenter.

[snip]
Nuclear experts said there were several possibilities if any significant damage occurred at the plants, at least one of which is alongside a river. A radioactive leak could cause environmental harm, while internal damage could set back China's nuclear modernization, they said.

Mianyang, an industrial city of 700,000 people that is the headquarters of China's nuclear weapons design industry, was in the disaster area.

A switchboard operator at the site, which has been likened to the U.S. nuclear facility at Los Alamos, N.M., said Saturday that people there were at work.

China's largest plutonium production reactor is also in the quake zone at Guangyuan.

Hans Kristensen, a nuclear arms expert at the Federation of American Scientists, said the Guangyuan reactor is ''at the center of China's fissile material production'' and damage ''would disrupt China's warhead maintenance capabilities.

more...

Luna, and Myranmar won't let supplies into the country this morning,

Wow Pat C, they think maybe we aren't completely wrong, wow. Gee maybe now I can take myself off the "I am maybe nuts" list

Lately I've gotten the feeling that things are happening more quickly. I mean disasters. It could be that we hear more about them now and that it isn't out of the ordinary, but I wonder. The disasters seem to be affecting massive amounts of people, and in places where the governments don't care which makes the human suffering and toll that much greater. Did this start with the tsunami in the Indian Ocean, so disasters are now extra large? I know it didn't happen one right after the other since the tsunami, but then we had Katrina and now the floods in Burma and this earthquake in China. All of them huge events related to natural phenomena in a very short span of time.

Oh no! Ted Kennedy has been airlifted to the Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston. The rumor is that he's had a stroke, but no one knows yet! I'm hearing this on CNN so no link is available

Oh, here's a dazzler from Bill Moyers. It's in the don't-miss/do-share category:

http://www.alternet.org/democracy/85521/

"...scurrying like rats", yes ma'am! Just like rats. It won't work, at least I hope it won't work.

This just insults the rats, in my opinion!!!!! Rats are great little smart animals....great pets, too. No, these guys scurrying are just garden variety scum bags.

PS...I've never had to sign in since the beginning....maybe because I am on a Mac....

Well, all send intense positive thoughts to Ted Kennedy, we can't lose him now just when the tide is beginning to turn!
There is a post on Du with a link to a Cape Cod site, & MSNBC seems to have a little more info than CNN.

Gads, I've signed in 3x today.

Heya Judig, well I don't have a fondness for the cute little critters anymore. Some of those buggers are as big as a small cat. Indeed they are smart, so far they have eaten holes in our wall and floors, ate the wiring for my stove, my dishwasher and half an electrical circuit (we're running everything off of one). A while back I had to get up in the middle of the night, went into the dark bathroom, closed the door behind me, flipped on the light, and dozens of the buggers ran about me. Needless to say I screamed. We are constantly fighting them (so are our neighbors), so I don't think they are cute anymore. They even sent my housekeeper (the last one) screaming into the daylight!

Oh and I do have two cats, and several zappers.

Has anyone seen a time for when Teddy Kennedy took ill ?

Ah, here we go, from CNN

Hyannis Fire Lt. Bill Rex told the AP a 911 call came in from the Kennedy compound at 8:19 a.m

Another large earthquake in China!

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN1746452020080517

Magnitude 6.1 quake hits Sichuan, China: USGS
Sat May 17, 2008 1:57pm EDT

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A 6.1-magnitude earthquake shook Sichuan province in China on Saturday, the U.S. Geological Survey reported, five days after a massive tremor killed tens of thousands of people.

USGS reported the latest earthquake, which follows scores of slightly less strong aftershocks during the week, was nearly 50 miles deep and hit 49 miles west of Guangyuan.

The quake hit as thousands of Chinese fled their homes on Saturday amid fears a lake could burst its banks, hampering rescue efforts after Monday's 7.9 earthquake killed about 29,000 people.

I never did find the chart of Ted Kennedy that I did............... my very first! But birth date Feb 22 1932, no time................

This is fascinating reading from a spiritual site.

http://www.reconnections.net/beyond_human.htm

[snip]
It is no mere co-incidence that this part of the planet is known as The Holy Land. As a centering point, and origin for many of your planet's mainline religions, The Middle East has become a primary location for the opening of the first of these Multiversal Energy Gates, through which the Ancient and the Shining Ones now regularly come and go! Through these Portals their essences pass, bringing with them a certain Radiance (Intense Energy) bleeding through from the Other Side of the Veil.

The power of this Radiance is profound, creating an acceleration in the energy fields of all who are exposed to it. The effect that it has upon the human nervous system is like the Siren's Song in the mythologies of old. It can drive people crazy, if they are not prepared to rise with it to new levels of love and allowingness.

Please note the convergence of timing between the beginning of strife in the Middle East, and the first appearance of Extraterrestrials, crash-landing upon your planet. Though many universes are using this data to explore story plots of conspiracy and intrigue, we tell you now that there are other, very expanded universes wherein this convergence of activity means so much more than mere wargames, played out in cloak and dagger fashion.

The turbulence in The Middle East, though heartbreaking and sad, serves well as a cover for this Divine Exchange of Consciousness that is occurring through these open Gates. Indeed, all areas of the world today, which are sites of continuous uprising---especially those conflicts which appear as "senseless violence"--- have been or are now being infused with incoming Radiance, as designated Energy Gates start to open. The Middle East, Africa, Britain (Ireland), Tibet, Bosnia, China............many places around the globe. The upheavals being experienced in these regions have political overtones, but the real issues are not political. They are Bio-Energetic.

For those whose hearts are open, the Radiance has very little effect, beyond the feeling of a gradual, daily increase in personal joy! When you are in Oneness, there is no objection or hindrance to being exposed to Radiance. However, if you are of a territorial or separatist mindset, or have hunger for power, these vibrations can make you crazy. What is happening in the Middle East now will soon be happening everywhere, as Energy Gates begin opening wide all over the globe. However, by that time, the vibrational flux will be so intense that control-based individuals will have a difficult time even functioning, let alone making war.

We are giving you this information---about the Energy Gates, and the non-political sourcing of these conditions, so that you can realize how important at this time is your need for OPEN HEARTS, in order to be protected and to survive in the days ahead. If that "message" becomes grounded and anchored in you.......you will be able to spread that TONE to many, many people. Not all people will understand.........but they won't need to. All they will need is exposure to the TONE of a person who is Reconnecting..........and they, too, will begin that process, on some level. It's the 100th Monkey dynamic again, do you see?

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Here's Lynn Hayes new article about Obama's birthtime

http://www.astrodynamics.blogspot.com/

[snip]
The Aquarius ascendant (see new chart) makes a lot more sense than the Scorpio ascendant which has been floating around, and reflects the universal appeal that Obama has. Aquarius is the sign of change - radical, revolutionary, innovative change. No wonder his slogan is "Change we can believe in." Aquarius desires social justice and liberty and equality for everyone. Moreover, Aquarius tends to be rather impersonal and detached and Obama has developed a reputation for being cool and somewhat aloof, both Aquariuan characteristics.

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