Lynn

The same would be true for India, for both were
created at the same time. Jinnah didn't want a
separate country for Muslims, and was surprised
when the British pushed it. Time to review the
film Ghandi...the slaughter at that time was
incredulous.

Thought For the Day

Steve Judd



6 Nov 20.04

When is Samhain, night without end, the gap between the worlds? Astrologically, it’s the exact halfway point between Equinox and Solstice, which this year translates at Thursday night 19.40 UK time. However, the Scorpio new Moon, the harbinger of Samhain, is the following day at 23.03 UK time. This is the dark, the journey into the underworld for the three months of winter, the lean time when the energy is of weeding and pruning the old and worn. This is a gateway into a time of change the like of which we have not experienced before, and which will permanently alter our concepts concerning religion and finance by the end of this year. There cannot be light without dark, and the holier than thou’s who just propose love and light are in avoidance and denial of the nature of balance. I don’t like the dark, but I’m not scared of it and I can work with it. It’s shades of grey I have problems with.

This is very like the charts for Israel and Palestine, except that Pakistan celebrates Independence day on August 14 and India on August 15. Astrology is so important in that part of the world it seems that the date and time would have been considered. The chart of India shows Gemini rising with Taurus rising in the Pakistan chart, but otherwise the charts are identical.

Another country down............Georgia ( didn't we support the 'orange revolution" several years ago?)
President Saakashvilli shas slid toward Dictatorship and the People protested,
Earlier, President Saakashvili accused "Russian special services" of stirring up the civil unrest, adding that several Russian diplomats would be expelled from Georgia for engaging in "espionage".
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/function/0,2145,12215_cid_2880619,00.html
QOPW

This ain't pretty, but it certainly says very plainly what many of us are feeling. I just wish the Dem leadersheep would read and understand it.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/the-impeachment-of-dick-c_b_71575.html

(Sorry if this is a duplicate post.)

Our man Sid has just destoyed another keyboard, summarizing the current situation in Pakistan. Very timely in light of Lynn's interesting presentation:
http://www.salon.com/opinion/blumenthal/2007/11/08/musharraf_bush/

Fantastic article by Lynn! Wasn't 8-14-47 their independence under dominion of the UK? Pakistan became a koscher Republic 3-23-56, which seems more relevant given the l971 war dates underscoring 3-26-71 and 12-5-71 respectively and the astrology associated with it, including 71's eclipse points nn/sn gem/sag. Uranus went direct in the progressed '56 chart at that time as well as the progressed LQ moon in cap conjuncted mars.
The 3-23-56 hits to the chart seem much more in keeping with what's happending now, as well as that chart's relationship to Musharraf. Sure, there's plenty of Leo planetary relationships, but the rest is hard to overlook.

Thank you, Lynn for this. What struck me was the unpredictable qualities of this nation, coincidental to the US, Bush's, Iran and Israeli energies at this time. Given the fixed nature of each entity's rigid adherence to their brand name of morality, it may not go well -- at all -- for ANY of us.

On another note, why didn't the impeachment proceeding in the house garner media attention? Seems there was a total blackout on this. Maybe i missed something, but it wasn't aired on NPR either. . .yet an update on OJ Simpson was. I know, i know, nothing new.

Thanks everyone for your comments. Sally and I exchanged some emails about the 1956 chart, which is when Pakistan became an Islamic republic. I did some research around this and the 1956 constitution was actually overturned in 1971 as Pat B notes, and although THAT constitution was later overturned it's the one that is in use today. In light of that, the use of the 1956 chart didn't make sense.

PatB you are right, Iran did become a Republic in 1956, but just like the myrid of charts for the US or for any country there isn't just one absolute chart. You can find aspects to confirm nearly any chart and most of the charts around a country have some aspect or another that "fit" in with each chart, similar to the shared aspects one finds within families. An example would be the ability to practically "read" the parents chart based on what you find in the child's chart. Lynn finds this chart to be most confirming for her, much as some astrologers finds the Scorpio American chart to be the most confirming.

That is a long and convoluted way of saying PatB that you are right, there is another chart but it's not inconsistent with this one.

Lynn, speaking of a confused quality of leadership, I think we are right up there as well. If there are people protesting, I don't think there is any press allowed though.

http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2007/11/07/impeachment/index.html

Making a mockery of impeachment

If you're a progressive looking to feel marginalized, be sure to check out the New York Times and the Washington Post this morning on Dennis Kucinich's effort to impeach Dick Cheney.

In an American Research Group poll taken in July, 54 percent of Americans -- and 74 percent of Democrats -- said they wanted the House to begin impeachment proceedings against Cheney. In a USA Today/Gallup poll taken at about the same time, 36 percent of Americans said there's sufficient justification for Congress to begin impeachment proceedings against the president himself.

snip

What about the merits of Kucinich's arguments against Cheney? The Post -- again, in a news story -- refers to the resolution offered by the "seemingly Quixotic" Kucinich as a "rambling" document that "bristles with citations of Cheney's public comments" justifying the war in Iraq. The Post doesn't identify even one of those public comments -- how about, "We know they have biological and chemical weapons"? -- but at least it says that Kucinich charges Cheney with lying to Americans in the run-up the Iraq war. If you were to read only the Times' account, all you'd know of Kucinich's arguments is that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi "has said the Democrats have no interest in impeaching Mr. Cheney or President Bush over the Iraq war."

In the end, maybe that's all anybody needs to know: The House Democratic leadership thinks impeaching Cheney is just as crazy as news reporters for the Times and the Post think it is. "It's hard to know which has longer odds," the Times jabs, "the bid by ... Kucinich ... to become president of the United States, or his bid to unseat Vice President Dick Cheney by impeaching him."

More....

Lynn, Sally good morning! Both charts of course deserve consideration, so much happens there that yanks them back & forth between democracy and fascism (like a hyper usa). All I can say is that mutable axis is the point that seem like the defining point like a knife edge for that country.
Pakistan=crazy monkeys.
Usa=insane propriety. If you have what they want, everybody dies and suffers horrifically. Demon of the world.

To Pelosi: what the bleep has happened to that woman? To actually say the democrats don't favor impeachment A COMPLETE DISCONNECT from the will of the people.
By golly the States have the power to fire them, which is more noble and obvious than seceding.
(although seceding is a luscious idea).

My sister and I were born around the time of Isreal, Plalestine, Pakistan,India and I always go "dumb" and "stupid" when the respective charts are discussed. I think becuase we have both needed a life time to understand ourselves and thinking of such pivotable countries born in such harsh and loaded times just stretches my imagination to the degree where it tears.
I feel like crying for Kucinch over the mockery of true "moral pygmies" against someone who has spent his entire life trying to be of service. And let me say, he has succeeded against forces that would stop most of us including myself.

Lynn, where does Bhutto fit into this pattern? Do you think she will end up in Musharraf's position? And how long do you think the Pakistan turmoil will last? There seems to be a semi black-out in this country as to what is going on right now and I don't think it's good.

Here are some words we're learning are very true. I guess that means those of us who are fighting for justice are in good company!

"Human progress is neither automatic nor inevitable... Every step toward the goal of justice requires sacrifice, suffering, and struggle; the tireless exertions and passionate concern of dedicated individuals." Martin Luther King, Jr.

I just thought I'd add this to the mix here. I think it's clearly part of the what we are living.

http://books.guardian.co.uk/extracts/story/0,,449284,00.html

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_2598.shtml

Said Bilderberg Group founder Prince Bernhard of The Netherlands, "It is difficult to re-educate people who have been brought up on nationalism to the idea of relinquishing part of their sovereignty to a supranational body." (The late prince has been replaced by his daughter, Queen Beatrix, who regularly attends the Bilderberg meetings.)

Former British Defense Minister Denis Healey, put it this way, "World events do not occur by accident. They are made to happen, whether it is to do with national issues or commerce; and most of them are staged and managed by those who hold the purse strings."

[....]

He notes that David Rockefeller said in his Memoirs, "Some even believe we are a part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure -- one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty and I am proud of it."

Incorporated in this group are the neoconservatives -- "those who have determined that Israel's security should come at the expense of the safety to the United States and be central to all US foreign policy decisions." Richard Perle is a regular attendee at Bilderberg meetings. Michael Ledeen attended the 2005 meeting.

November 7, 2007

Iran, Israel, Pakistan, Russia, China, Vermont: Let's just bomb ALL their nuclear plants!

By Jane Stillwater

When I was in Iraq, I saw small shoots of hope and positive progress springing up there as the Iraqis, with the help of many dedicated and enlightened members of the US military, worked really hard to try to put the pieces of their poor country back into place. And then I came back to America -- only to find that the cold, clouded atmosphere of "Bomb them back to the Stone Age" still prevails here.

Back in the USA, I realized that what is actually happening in Iraq has nothing to do with what people here preceive is happening in Iraq.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_jane_sti_071107_iran_2c_israel_2c_pakist.htm

So is the Bilderberg Group the Illuminate of right wing fame? I was recently looking a glossy paged magazines in the docor's office and came across a big one entitled "Portfolio". Going through this paean to wealth I was amazed to come to an article on war and the wonderful opportunities to invest in war. The armaments were photographed like the most expensive, beautiful models. I didn't have time to read the article but I felt raped as if I were a woman caught alone on a dusty road in a war torn country.

In case you missed it:

Zionists using Holocaust to silence people: chief rabbi :

Friedman said "the root of the world's problems is the existence of the Zionist regime." The chief rabbi was in Iran on an invitation from the Islamic Republic.

http://www.mehrnews.ir/en/NewsDetail.aspx?NewsID=566694

Wouldn't it be nice if we all just learned to live in the moment and fix what has been broken?

It just seems too late.
Too insane to stop, and senate & congress refuse to close the gate to destruction.
Just too late.

Now I'll look at Dennis K's chart. sigh...

I think living in the moment and making decisions and choices based on what's best for everybody instead of what's best for one country, one government, one corporation, one family or one person's pocketbook would go a long way towards fixing everything. It's not hard to always ask oneself the question "What's the best possible outcome for everyone?" when making choices.

SO clymela; IS your Doctor overchargong you?
There was a list of Bilderberg attendees, on;linw a few years ago.......did you post that Pat C?
John Edwards, attended prior to the 2004 dem convention then wa nominated for VP candidate.
Corzine also attended, now he has advanced to Gov of a state rather than Senator..............
As far as I know, W has never been invited, nor Poppy, ..........what is goin on here? Rival Families?
Thank you for the very informative artocle Lynn.

I wouldn't feel too sad for Kucinich, clymela. The man is a real fighter. He always has been, even back when he was "the Boy Mayor" (youngest in the country) of Cleveland. He stood up to the banks and big business interests in the city who wanted him to privatize Cleveland's publically-owned electric company. He refused, knowing that business would turn the sale into a profiteering racket at the people's expense.

The banks responded by taking the city of Cleveland into default, the largest city in the country to face such an embarrasment. Kucinich's re-election campaign went down in flames.

I think it was just 5 years ago that Cleveland City Council passed a resolution honoring Kucinich for keeping Muny Light in the public's hands. By doing so, he saved the people of Cleveland countless millions of dollars in electric costs over the past three decades. Now that's vindication!

The faces in opposition have changed, but the game is still essentially the same. "They" still don't take him seriously, but anyone who really cares about the future of this country and the way things are going now can see that Dennis Kucinich is among the few honest politicians out there (if there is such a thing) who still fight for justice and the people. And all I can say is that if we get to "Nuremberg part II" and Cheney goes on trial, they ought to let him prosecute.

Well, whoever doesn't win the democratic primary (since we all know it's staged, right?), should follow Lieberman's lead and register as an independent, get on the ballot, and let's all vote for an independent. As long as we allow the rethugs and demos to "pick" our candidates for us, we're soooooo screwed. At this point, screw Bush, screw Pelosi and Reid. To hell with all of them!

Let's DECLARE OUR INDEPENDENCE and take back our country!

Sally, did you receive my donation? Sent you an email, but haven't heard from you ... you must be busy! Anyway, just wanted to make sure.

Lynn, very much enjoyed your article! Thanks!

Cheers!

http://therealnews.com/web/index.php?thisdataswitch=0&thisid=578&thisview=item

Did Democrat leadership bury Cheney impeachment?
David Swanson talks about U.S. Rep. Dennis Kucinich's impeachment bill

David Swanson is the creator of ImpeachCheney.org, co-founder of AfterDowningStreet.org and Washington Director of Democrats.org. A writer and organizer, Swanson has worked for ACORN, the International Labor Communications Association, Dennis Kucinich's 2004 presidential campaign and many others.

Uh-oh.
http://www.local10.com/news/14542944/detail.html

Below is a posting about the first bill to override Bush's presidential veto. I agree with the posting in that this is the first significant defeat in memory for what has been termed the "working conservative majority." The notion of a working conservative majority is the notion that even though Democrats may be running the institutions of the House and the Senate since early this year, the political pressures and media incentives are such that conservatives are still, by and large, getting exactly what they want.

It's quite poignant that the first major defeat for the working conservative majority, a movement which is associated in astrology terms with Pluto in the fiery sign of Sagittarius, came in the form of a water bill. Nothing beats fire like a little water, eh?

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Conservative Working Majority Dented
by: Chris Bowers
Thu Nov 08, 2007 at 15:53:17 PM EST
It isn't the largest area of legislation, but for the first time in a long time, the conservative working majority was defeated in D.C. as both the House and the Senate over-rode Bush's veto of the water bill. CQ politics writes of the event:

The Senate overrode President Bush's veto of a massive water resources bill Thursday, marking the first time since he took office that Congress has enacted a law over his objections.

With Republicans deserting the president in droves, the Senate voted 79-14 to override Bush's veto of the Water Resources Development Act. The tally comfortably surpassed the two-thirds majority required.

The Senate's vote, which enacted the bill, followed a 361-54 House vote on Nov. 6 to overturn the veto of the $23.2 billion authorization bill.

Bush has vetoed four other bills - two expanding stem cell research, one seeking to set timetables for a U.S. troop drawdown in Iraq, and one expanding a children's health insurance program. The House sustained his vetoes those four, but not this one.

The only Democrats voting against the over-ride in either chamber were Claire McCaskill and Russ Feingold. I admit, if Feingold opposed it, that instantly sends up a red flag where I worry that this might not be such a great bill after all. There are few politicians that I trust pretty much absolutely, and Russ Feingold is one of them. I'll see if I can find out why he voted against this bill.

I still wish the cards had fallen differently, and that an opportunity for Feingold to run would have opened up. He is a candidate I would have had no problem getting behind, and I think he would have left everyone else's grassroots operation in the dust. Also of note on lamentable Presidential non-runs: in 1999, Paul Wellstone didn't run because for health reasons. Can you imagien how differently the history of the netroots and American politics would have turned had Wellstone run in 1999? There probably would never have been a Nader split, and many of the changes that Howard Dean's campaign brought for progressives might have happened four years earlier. I don't know if we have anyone like that on our bench right now: maybe Eliot Spitzer, maybe Deval Patrick.

Even with these laments, it is nice to see a crack in the matrix. The conservative working majority just suffered a defeat. More will be coming.
Chris Bowers :: Conservative Working Majority Dented

The overriding of that particular veto is the best birthday present I could have gotten, being a water baby and all. Sometimes the best presents come from those who don't even know you and by surprise.

Well happy birthday then!

Thank you Dave! I do agree it's worrisome that Feingold was for letting the veto stand. I trust him. Well as completely as I can trust any of them right now.

I listened to the discussion on the water bill today. The Repugs who spoke, made a point that
it wasn't voting FUNDS for these projects, just voting to authorize them. To AUTHORIZE the plans that have been developed over the last 7 years, expenses for surveys, conferences, etc. for a number of critical infrastructure projects.Then at some future time, the funds would be APPROPRIATED TO DO the projects! If the veto had stood,that planning expense would have been lost and the projects would have to start from scratch.
Leave it to Jr., to veto a bill because it is too costly, when it wasn't about money at all!
I guess some money was involved becaause Boxer stated that the shovels would be starting to work in N O on the levee project immediately!
I think Feingold wanted to add more projects to the bill.
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What's the fuss about?

Jonathan Steele
November 8, 2007 7:00 AM

http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/jonathan_steele/2007/11/whats_the_fuss_about.html

What on earth is the fuss about? Two mild-mannered academics, talking calmly and reasonably about a vital issue of foreign policy, marshalling facts, rebutting critics with detailed argument, making a powerful case for change - isn't that what analysis and debate are meant to be about?

As you listen to them doing the rounds of London's various think-tanks promoting their book, The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy, you cannot help wondering why John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt have to suffer such hostility in the United States.

http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/jonathan_steele/2007/11/whats_the_fuss_about.html.printer.friendly

East coast tidal surge threatens 10,000 homes

By Laura Clout and Richard Alleyne
Last Updated: 1:01am GMT 09/11/2007

Thousands of people have been told to be ready to leave their homes as a tidal surge threatened to batter the east coast, bringing "extreme danger to life and property".

Map of flood warnings

The freak, 10ft rise in sea level was expected to breach coastal defences and could bring the worst flooding in 50 years.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/11/08/nstorm208.xml
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Happy Birthday PatC!

Thank you Morgana!

Murkasey (sp?) was voted in as Attorney General in the Senate at 11:25 PM EST, Washington, DC.

Hi Lynn Hayes!

dkos on impeachment status today:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/11/8/123533/273

Re: list of Bilderberger conference attendees, here's a list from last year's in Toronto:

http://www.freedomdomain.com/secretsocieties/bilder04.html

If you watched Endgame, there is a journalist who's been covering these conferences for many years, and he always gets a list sent to him by some unknown insider of the attendees. The journalists and activists that were there also speculated heavily that Hillary was there even though she isn't on the list - like she came in through the underground garage. If that's the case, it's a clear violation of the Logan act. Not that being above the law bothers any of these plutocrats or anything...

There's actual camera footage with zoom lens in Endgame clearly identifying many of the attendees on that list, so don't think it's just out of thin air like our federal reserve notes and their value.

Wow @ all the 7th house planets and Uranus in the 3rd in Kucinich's chart! Hmm that Moon in Pisces in the 12th very selfless and almost.. well, psychic, but square Uranus has very unorthodox attitudes about healing I would think.

Um, sure is kind of weird how the peoples of Pakistan, Georgia and even USA are rising up at once. What a mess, but it's a good sign for necessary changes coming about.

Wups that was 1996 Bilderberger in Toronto (still interesting, I'm sure). Here's 2006 in Ottawa:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2006/110606Attendees.htm

the Associated Press reports that former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto is under house arrest.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/11/9/0238/07537

Now that's kinda interesting. Googled for astro info on Ron Paul and got Lynn Hayes article
http://www.nationalledger.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi?archive=15&num=14846

In it there's a Link http://shouldyoubepresident.com to "Who should be your president?"
Who should you really support? Here at Attitude Media we don't believe the American Presidential election should be decided by personality, or gender, or who has the best sound bites. If you agree with us that issues matter, then take the following objectively designed short survey to see which of the leading candidates most agree with your position on a wide variety of issues - and also who least agrees with those positions - you may be surprised!

Lynn writes "Interestingly, my candidate was indicated as Ron Paul with a score of 18, far above the next closest candidate Bill Richardson with 8."
And I got Denis Kucinich.
That's the good news. The bad news is there's little chance of a Scottish/Kiwi being able to vote in the US. And even if I could I'd only want to vote at a polling station that's got a paper trail.

Lynn if you read this and have the time and a precise birth time for Ron Paul (your chart link wasn't active as far as I could see otherwise I'd have done it myself) I'd (as an A*C*G buff) would love to know of any significant lines close to Washington DC and other important places in the world

Happy Birthday Pat C,......New moon in scorpio to celebrate on today!
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Lynn and Stan et al, there is a similar online candidate selector thing on abcnews.com based on your answers to questions on issues that candidates have answered in debates, interviews and claims on their respective websites; I don't know how objective it is, but it's fun and I more or less got my expected results (Paul, followed closely by Kucinich and the oddball was Thompson wtf)

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/page?id=3623346

I googled Mukasey's lawfrim, Patterson Belknap, Webb & Taylor.......
on page 14 came up with this.
Bush's apparent nominee to replace Gonzales at Justice seems to have given to precisely two candidates since retiring as a federal judge in June 2006: Rudy Giuliani (whose campaign he is officially advising)... and one Joseph Lieberman (via OpenSecrets.org):

MUKASEY, MICHAEL B - NEW YORK,NY 10021 - PATTERSON, BELNAP, ET AL/ATTORNEY - 9/28/2006 - $1,000 - Lieberman, Joe
MUKASEY, MICHAEL B MR - NEW YORK,NY 10021 - PATERSON BELKNAP WEBB & TYLER L.L.P - 6/19/2007 - $1,000 - Giuliani, Rudolph W

MUKASEY, MICHAEL B MR - NEW YORK,NY 10021 - PATERSON BELKNAP WEBB & TYLER L.L.P - 3/13/2007 - $200 - Giuliani, Rudolph W
His son works for Rudy (0.00 / 0)
At Bracewell and Guiliani
http://www.myleftnutmeg.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=8051
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Pat C -- a very happy birthday, girl! You're such a sparkly. And, i thank you for all the hard work you do to find pertinent posts that deepen our understanding of current shenanigans and other world/past events.

Big Giant Hugs!

Then I discovered this; googled Scott Horton, Partner at Patterson, Belknap, Webb, & Taylor.....also member of their "Eurasian" group! and found this interview with Amy Goodman in 2005.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/27/1451229
SCOTT HORTON: Well, I thought that was a very well taken editorial, and it’s interesting that this debate comes back to Vice President Cheney, because, in fact, from all we’ve seen so far, people focus on Defense Secretary Rumsfeld as the source of torture policy within the administration. That’s not really correct. I mean, this began as an initiative of Vice President Cheney's. And we know going back to 2002, early in the year, he was making the round of the talk shows and talking about the need to use the “dark arts.” He was clearly advocating torture, and he was advocating it within the C.I.A. and later the Defense Department..............
That was 2 years ago & MSM is still eclipsing Dennis Kucinich!
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Thank you Pat and Karen! It was a beautiful autumn day here with lots of golden leaves all around. I couldn't have asked for a better environment.

Big giant hugs back to you Karen!

Happy Happy Snug Cozy Elated Relieved Fulfilled
Rosey Prosperous Warm-hearted Birthday Year!!!

Pat C! ((((strangely unwarming but well-intended online hug, Pat C, but consider it quite from the heart how indispensable you are with your generous links that keep us thinkin' and provide what we might otherwise overlook! Just invaluable Pat C so thank you for your fantastic contributions smartypants!))))).

Little birds are all lined up and jumping up and down for breakfast, and heard them say Happy Birthday to Pat!

:-D)) Thank you sooooooooo much patb! You gave me a great big smile and some happy tears! Please tell those birds I send my love and that they have chosen one great place to dine in the morning light!

((((patb))))

Happy Birthday, PatB...have a listen...

http://d21c.com/aquariusmoon/HolidayGraphics/HolidayMusic/happybirthday.mid

Happy Birthday, Pat C!!!..sorry...

Be Prepared!!!

Revealed: Israel Plans Nuclear Strike on Iran

By Uzi Mahnaimi, New York and Sarah Baxter, Washington

ISRAEL has drawn up secret plans to destroy Iran's uranium enrichment facilities with tactical nuclear weapons.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18688.htm

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U.S. Says Attack Plans for Iran Ready

By Associated Press

Among the possible targets, in addition to nuclear installations like the centrifuge plant at Natanz: Iran's ballistic missile sites, Republican Guard bases, and naval

warfare assets that Tehran could use in a retaliatory closure of the Straits of Hormuz, a vital artery for the flow of Gulf oil.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18689.htm

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The Neoconservative Agenda to Sacrifice the Fifth Fleet

The New Pearl Harbor

By Michael E. Salla, M.A.., Ph.D.

Neoconservatives within the Bush administration are aggressively promoting a range of military actions against Iran that will culminate in Iran attacking the US Navy's

Fifth Fleet with sophisticated cruise anti-ship missiles. Iran has sufficient quantities of cruise missiles to destroy much or all of the Fifth Fleet which is within range of

Iran's mobile missile launchers strategically located along its mountainous terrain overlooking the Persian Gulf.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18687.htm

Happy Happy Birthday Pat C!

I second that on thanks for all the links you interestingly provide. I so appreciate them. And the broad range of them we find here instead of the usual set of limited sources found on other blogs that use only the same news sites or fav blog circles to quote. Here we go deep and wide for sources and topics making it fuller and complex, just like life. I notice links cited here that I don't see pop up anywhere else and I'm all over the blogosphere daily.

Thought For the Day
Steve Judd



8 Nov
In America’s chart, Mars rules the fourth house of the home, and with Jupiter currently opposing the US Mars, homeland issues around evictions/repossessions and the plunging dollar are rapidly escalating out of control. In the short term, this is going to get worse, and with Uranus square to the US Mars all of next year this is not something that will just go away. It’s going to be a bigger millstone around the Republicans necks than Iraq and Iran, and that’s saying something. I would expect the US economy to stabilise again by early/mid March, but until then it’s a bit erratic. I’ll try and do some astrobabble on the Chinese dollar holdings and the potential Pakistani nuclear threat shortly, but the readings come first!

Thank you so much Carol. That's one very classy version of Happy Birthday! It brings the internet to life!

Thank you shez. I'm just glad to have a place like Astro World to come to read and post the events that are happening in our world. I want to help.

wv, I'll be careful. Those are powerful aspects for my birthday and for all the world.

Here is something hopeful and helpful. Blessings to all of us.

http://www.bettertobless.com/blessingcircle.html

Thanks again for such wonderful wishes!

Happy belated birthday Pat C!

Pat C: Happy Birthday to us! (It's mine today too.)

Turning 50 with a New Moon really focuses on what I want to bring into my life at this point.

Steve Judd seems to be right on the money.

Blessings to DK and Wexler.

Blessings to all here at AW

Happy Happy Birthday Raven! When I turned 50 my mother told me 50's are fun and go by like -that-. *snap* (Thanks alot Ma.. I think ;)

Tomorrow my grandson turns 2, looking forward to the little party we're having for him.

(((lunaoscura))) Thanks!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY RAVEN, fellow traveler! Have a wonderous, fantastic year!! I know patb's little birds knew all about it too!

Happy Birthday Raven! The 50's are fabulous!

Happy Birthday Raven,
Yes, my 50s have been the best years yet! I hope they're just a warmup for my 60s which start next year!

For those shopping for children, here is the very very long list of recalled items.

http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/category/child.html
http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/category/toy.html

..........

New World Order

http://www.augustreview.com/option,com_seyret/task,videodirectlink/id,5/

Thank you all so much!
And for the encouragement about the 50's....don't think I could go thru another round of my 40's...
Love and Light

Over to the right are videos of Naomi Wold and a video of the real face of the European Union. Excellent.

#*@^%#!! Here's some more giant backwards steps on the part of our Democratic 'leaders' to get depressed about. Who the #@^* needs enemies when these guys are watching our backs and sinking knives into them first?!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/toby-barlow/news-alert-if-you-love-r_b_71888.html

News Alert: If You Love Renewable Energy, It's Time to Freak Out

Pelosi and Reid are just about to do the stupidest thing imaginable: pull the rug out from underneath the blossoming renewable energy economy at the time when we need it most.

Just as every single magazine in the country is giving the energy crisis more press than Paris Hilton, and just as renewable energy is becoming the entrepreneurial equivalent of the internet revolution and just as the news about climate change is getting weirder and scarier every time we open the freakin' paper, our crazy-assed Democratic leaders are completely dropping the ball, and you gotta call Capitol Hill right now and tell them to get their head's straight fast.

As Adam Browning of Vote Solar put it "Thursday morning, Senator Reid and Speaker Pelosi decided to drop the renewable energy standard out of the energy bill and drop the tax title. No tax title means no extension of the investment tax credit for solar, and no extention of the production tax credit for wind. Let's see...nothing for solar, plus nothing for wind, hmmm, add no renewable energy standard, carry the zero...yep, that adds up to precisely nothing for renewable energy.

Got that? Congressional leadership is moving an energy bill with nothing in it for renewable energy. Dropping the biggest pro-solar provision this country has ever seen, just when the industry is gaining momentum and making an impact."

more...

Congratulations, Pat C and Raven, on the occasion of your birthdays and may this year's trip around the sun bring you much joy.

Raven YOU a fabulous damn decent year, wishing you so well you can't stand it! Guess whut? We had a raven in our yard this morning as well...noisey gorgeous guy...put out a piece of tinfoil (from my hat) to see if he'd go for it.
Or do they only like watches? Must be in the air.
Today is also my father's solar return (actual b'day is 11-10-17) born two days after the Russian Revolution (need I say more?). still drives around in with a rum & coke between his legs.

Re: Our friend Kucinich. He just looks damned happy despite his SR this year that suggests a legal defeat, which will be resurrected in '09.
I also suspect he might become a dad of a little girl. Gotta be happy for him!
His chart and progressions actually look very positive for the elections, surprisingly. Certainly better than "fingernails on a blackboard" Hillary (scrrreeeeeeEEEE).
He for sure will make great inroads through what's happening now regardless of how hard they try to dirty his efforts. He and we know full well we are living in a dark Kalpa (age).

Felications to all with birthdays this month...

50 is the most freeing birthday anyone can have,
because after that you don't give a damn what anyone thinks.

60 is great because you know you won't really have to work much more.

70 is great because you finally have it all figured out.

Looking forward to 80 and 90...

That reminds me of an amusing interview I heard with Dustin Hoffman on the occasion of his 60th birthday. He said it was an immense relief not to think of sex every fifteen minutes anymore, and that he could get so much more done now.

Anybody checked out Atlanta's chart or know of anyone who has? Thnx.

The lates on conditions in the SF Bay and beyond due to the oil spill. There's also a picture of the hole in the side of the container ship, the Cosco Busan.

http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/nov2007/2007-11-08-093.asp

Cargo Ship Hits Bridge, Spills Oil into San Francisco Bay

SAN FRANCISCO, California, November 8, 2007 (ENS) - In the largest oil spill in San Francisco Bay in at least a decade, a container ship navigating outbound through heavy fog hit a span of the San Francisco Bay Bridge Wednesday morning.

The collision damaged the 900-foot container carrier Cosco Busan, allowing 58,000 gallons of bunker fuel to spill into the bay. CALTRANS has confirmed there is no structural damage to the bridge.

Two overflights conducted this morning showed that oil has now spread as far south as Hunters Point, east of Treasure Island and Angel Island, up through Raccoon Straits and Brook Island along the San Francisco city waterfront and past the Golden Gate Bridge as far north as Tennessee Point in Marin County.

Marine Spill Response Corporation and the National Response Center report about 8,000 gallons of the oil have been recovered.

Due to potential health concerns, Baker Beach, Fort Point, Crissy Field, China Beach, Kirby Cove, Rodeo Beach, Muir Beach and Angel Island shoreline are closed to the public. The ferries are still running to Angel Island.
A U.S. Coast Guard boat pulls alongside the damaged Cosco Busan now at anchor in San Francisco Bay. (Photo courtesy U.S. Coast Guard)
Public Health Officials reported that people on port property near the spill experienced headaches and nausea due to the oil vaporizing into the air. While this type of exposure is noxious, breathing oil fumes is not associated with long term health effects. "If you cannot smell the oil, you are not breathing it," said Mitch Katz, MD, director of San Francisco Department of Public Health.

More than 200 people from federal, state and local agencies and nonprofit organizations are responding to the Cosco Busan spill.

First, fuel was transferred from the compromised tanks to stop the leaking and the vessel has been moved to an anchorage in the bay.

Clean up actions have begun to remove the fuel from the bay. There are five skimmers in the bay and three skimmers outside of the Golden Gate Bridge working to recover spilled oil. A skimmer is a mechanized oil recovery system that uses a belt made from a material that attracts oil.

Crews have placed 18,000 feet of boom around the Bay Area to protect the beaches and wildlife.

more...

Lunaoscura,

Arnie has declared an emergency, again he is actually doing something. wow.

Here are more images

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/slideShow?section=local&id=5749986&slide=1

Pat C. Happy birthday for you and a wonderful year. Thank you so much for all you do. and I am really enjoying your short, pithy asides these days.
Raven, wishing a happy day and bright year for you.
Pat b. did I miss you?? I love your passion and pissyness-I often feel a heart relation when i read your thoughts.
If I missed anyone else-oh I hope not. I am down with a little virus and feel all whoozy these days.

Suddenly, Impeachment Hearings Are Looking Like a Strong Possibility

By Dave Lindorff

You wouldn't know it if you just watch TV news or read the corporate press, but this past Tuesday, something remarkable happened. Despite the pig-headed opposition of the Democratic Party's top congressional leadership, a majority of the House, including three Republicans, voted to send Dennis Kucinich's long sidelined Cheney impeachment bill (H Res 333) to the Judiciary Committee for hearings.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18697.htm

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Rep. Dennis Kucinich: Effort to Impeach Vice President Cheney Still Alive

By Democracy Now! - Audio and Transcript

Despite the best efforts of the Democratic leadership, impeachment was indeed on the table this week in Washington. - Twenty-one House Democrats have supported the bill, but it's met fierce opposition from the Democratic leadership. Congressmember Dennis Kucinich of Ohio introduced the measure. He joins me now from Washington.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18695.htm

"The entire government has failed us on Iraq"

harsh and, of course, eloquent smackdown of Bush by Olberman (yah, how man of these are there, but he gets the spineless Dems in there too)

(7 min, 52 sec)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-OZR774UhM&NR=1

Thank you so much shy and clymela! A party would be great! I'd just love it....no meat.

..............

Concerns About Disclosure in Farm Bill - 1 day ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — Journalists and government watchdog groups say that crucial food safety information could be kept from the public under a farm bill the Senate is debating.

The Society of Professional Journalists, the American Civil Liberties Union and others say an attempt to ban the disclosure of information from a national animal tracking system could exempt some Agriculture Department documents from freedom of information laws.

"It's essential that citizens be made aware of dangers in their own communities, including livestock that can cause serious illness and death," said David Cuillier of the journalists' organization.

Cattle groups say such disclosure could harm their business.

snip

The program was created after the nation's first case of mad cow disease, in 2003.

The Senate bill would allow the department to share some of the information with states and other government agencies under certain conditions, including threats of disease or threats to homeland security.

But it would be against the law in most cases for the general public to access the information.

http://tinyurl.com/yww996

Many Happy Returns of the day (old-fashioned way of saying happy birthday) to all the birthday gals and guys. WV, that was cute. Who knows? You may even get to be a centenarian!

Lunaoscura, I will be the big 60 next year October, so we are true peers!

What's up with California? They are certainly taking it on the chin these days.

We're being punished for having DiFi in the Senate, Crystal.

Wow, even more Cali problems; Carol's transit diagnosis right on. Sheesh what's next.

shylurker, I've never thought to look at Atlanta's chart until you mentioned it. I already knew Georgia is a staid Capricorn, but it turns out that Atlanta's incorporation date (wikipedia, but cited) makes it a Capricorn also. We should expect much of the stuffy socioeconomic class hierarchy striation typical of England (also a Capricorn as per the coronation of William the Conqueror) as well as a snobbery to the rest of the Cancer American South and a general "high-falutin" nature (Jawja, Nahthahn Aggression etc). If I remember correctly, most of Atlanta's African-American population is located below the demarcation of I-20 although it's been a good decade since I was down there, while the wealthy and white predominate in the north and northwestern suburbs.

The Sun/Mars trine and Sun/Saturn sextile indicate themes of control and aggression, but in earth signs indicates feudal and agricultural themes. The first thing that popped into my mind was Sherman's razing of Georgia during the Civil war which culminated in the burning of Atlanta. The USA's Sun is in the opposing sign of Cancer and also contacts Saturn in a harsh square.

Maybe I should look into the incorporation of Coca-Cola and compare synastry with that of Atlanta's. Don't ever say Pepsi down there hehe.

Don't ever say Coca-Cola, either. It's Co-Cola. But, as Garry well knows, only an R-C goes perfectly with a Moon Pie.

Clymela, what a nice thing to say, that feels so good to hear. It is so exhausting dealing with and processing events without giving in to despair. So today we Will Not throw a rope over the rafter! We will keep reminding one another of our warm human connection and the one we have with all living things. I love your heartfelt and open spirit when you share here Clymela, and thanks to you and all here we can cheer each other on and defeat these sumbitches to get their filthy hands off the planet.

Oh oh. Clymela do get better quick. Try a little blackberry brandy if your tummy's not upset.

patb, lol! In retrospect I should have been more positive there as Atlanta is, in my mind, the bustling urban center of the traditional South. Not even North Carolina comes close in pooling of financial and intellectual capital and artistic and creative output. I better shut my mouth now about that.

Anyway, why is Feinstein ok with censuring Clinton but busting wiretapping telcos is right out (as well as impeaching possibly the most criminal gangster this country has ever seen)? Ebbeh... ERROR

"When Clinton gets a blowjob, Diane gets very concerned about the rule of law. But when billion dollar telcos break the law, destroy the rights of millions of Americans, and then demand retroactive immunity? Not so much."

http://www.correntewire.com/feinstein_blowjob_worse_than_violating_rights_of_millions_1999_censure_for_clinton_2007_retroactive_immunity_for_telcos

Oh My. . .Geez, Raven. . .i hope you come to the site today a little late because the party was so darned much fun, and the surprises were awesome. Happy Birthday, Oh Woman of Fifty -- so darned much fun -- and keep in mind the excellent synopsis wv posted. :)

Excellent posts this morning. Thank you all.

And Shy. . .that crack about RC and Moonpies made me spit my coffee on the keyboard. Oh, don't worry, i cleaned it up with a little Coke.`

From the Daily Tao:

Thirty-Four

The great Tao flows everywhere, both to the left and to the right.
The ten thousand things depend upon it; it holds nothing back.
It fulfills its purpose silently and makes no claim.

It nourishes the ten thousand things,
And yet is not their lord.
It has no aim; it is very small.

The ten thousand things return to it.
Yet it is not their lord.
It is very great.

It does not show greatness,
And is therefore truly great

Pat C. I can't really express here how deeply your Daily Tao entry touched me
Thano you so much.

Wanted to chime in & wish a happy birthday to the two invaluable Pats + Raven. The 50's really are amazing - enjoy them. May you all be productive, happy, healthy, wise, and rich in every way. I'm always awed by the regenerative Scorpio strength & energy. It looks like they never tire. Hey, speaking of Scorpios, isn't Sally one?

My husband has been in the hospital this week and I've been spending most of my time with him. His postponing of prostate surgery for 5+ years, caused his urethra to be blocked, which led to about 10 days of using catheters, which led to a blood, kidney, bladder infection (e-coli). The heavy-duty antibiotics by IV given him in the hospital have brought him back to normal. It was quite a trip, with all his symptoms, and being his patient advocate, orchestrating all the various specialties involved. Thank God, we were able to find some great doctors. He went home last night :-) wearing a catheter and still on IV antibiotics for maybe 10 days, but the infection is clearing up nicely and he'll be able to have the prostate surgery soon. I am no longer worried about Mars retrograde, thanks to good advice from Sally and Gypsi on Starlight News.

Keep the news & great opinions (and quips) coming, y'all -

That was from me -- Sharon

Astroworlders, what do you think?

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/11/10/13942/841

I think gas will go higher, up to 5 bucks a gallon. Somehow I sense that when summer comes, we will be remembering how folks coped with the last gas crisis. I was a teenager then, and I remember not only the gas lines, but the sudden spike in mass transit. We got the 55 mile per hour limit because of that, and one year (1973) I believe we had year round Daylight Savings Time in order to save on energy. During that year I started high school and remember having a start time of 9am and going to school in the dark in the wintertime. That year the sun set at 6pm which was unusual for a wintertime where the Sun sets at 5pm. We also were encouraged to cut back on Christmas lights as well to save energy. The first purchases of wood stoves-insulation(you know the stuff we put around windows to keep out the cold) took off then, along with double paned glass.

If Cheney gets the bad news he only has months to live, and starts a war with Iran that hampers China's oil exports, you will see a lot of unexpected riders on mass transit-gas could spike to $10 an hour.

Somehow, I can't visualize Hillary as President-I don't know why. I try to discount it as wishful thinking but none the less.....

The takeoff of the green revolution will be next year...

Carol, I know in my soul the cartoonish unreality of Bill&Hill back in the WH will not happen.
One of those instantaneous instinctive knowings one gets before intellectually disseminating.

No this is one FAKE election from the get-go.

Join the http://americanfreedomcampaign.org
slam buttwipes everywhere.
Push for Kucinich's impeachment...go after Schultz-Wasserman (who was once our friend until Pelosi hooked her up to the Anti-Reason machine).

Time has come to support the so-called "improbable" and show some highly personal FANG. Don't let ANYONE tell you what "can't be done"..they are liars and from now on we work for ourselves and shut our ears to this demonic gossip. Just ACT upon what you know. That's all we need to do.

Carol, I know in my soul the cartoonish unreality of Bill&Hill back in the WH will not happen.
One of those instantaneous instinctive knowings one gets before intellectually disseminating.

No this is one FAKE election from the get-go.

Join the http://americanfreedomcampaign.org
slam buttwipes everywhere.
Push for Kucinich's impeachment...go after Schultz-Wasserman (who was once our friend until Pelosi hooked her up to the Anti-Reason machine).

Time has come to support the so-called "improbable" and show some highly personal FANG. Don't let ANYONE tell you what "can't be done"..they are liars and from now on we work for ourselves and shut our ears to this demonic gossip. Just ACT upon what you know. That's all we need to do.

http://uacastrology.com/

WHO'S GOING???

November 11, 2007

Op-Ed Columnist
The Coup at Home

By FRANK RICH
AS Gen. Pervez Musharraf arrested judges, lawyers and human-rights activists in Pakistan last week, our Senate was busy demonstrating its own civic mettle. Chuck Schumer and Dianne Feinstein, liberal Democrats from America’s two most highly populated blue states, gave the thumbs up to Michael B. Mukasey, ensuring his confirmation as attorney general.

So what if America’s chief law enforcement official won’t say that waterboarding is illegal? A state of emergency is a state of emergency. You’re either willing to sacrifice principles to head off the next ticking bomb, or you’re with the terrorists. Constitutional corners were cut in Washington in impressive synchronicity with General Musharraf’s crackdown in Islamabad.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/11/opinion/11rich.html?_r=1&oref=slogin&ref=opinion&pagewanted=print

Poppy jumped again the "Ole fool!"
What a psycological study! Baby meets his well deserved "waterloo" in musharef, & dad shows him up by bailing out of a plane at the age of 84? is it now!
Should we be incorporating psychology 1 into the kindergarten curriculum?
QOP ( flunked Wands at the newmoon!)

Any Mac users? Help!
I am getting a Performance Optimizer flashing yellow triangles
threat level to Microsoft MsM messwnger7.x Internet Explorer 6 showing high (red) threats to Acrobate Reader
Of course the prepaid 3 year MAc tech support is unavailable on Sunday morning!
Is this a real problem or are some BASTARDs trying to scare me into downloading software?
QOP

Something done messed with that Mercury guy again,QOP, formerly known as QOPW. They want to sell you something and play in your machine. we non-Mac people get it all the time. That is my opinion but I have electrial problems.bjt

Prepare for some early morning nausea:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/69545

QOP, I have a Mac and I think you should take the warning seriously. In my experience Mac always asks nicely if you want to download software updates and it only asks if it's free downloads. Flashing yellow triangles are serious.
If the version of Acrobat Reader you have isn't good they will tell you so and direct you to a site to download the latest version. Get tech help.

QOP, You might try restarting your Mac to see if that helps. Restarting it will make most problems go away on a Mac.

A must read

Empire of Debt I: The Great Unraveling Begins (November 5, 2007)

Some readers have been concerned that my recent posts have been overly bleak or strident. Perhaps; but I sense the Great Unraveling of the Empire of Debt is finally upon us, and breathtaking losses could be revealed any day now.

You cannot properly anticipate the coming wealth destruction unless you understand that the entire model rests on financial instruments (derivatives) which mask and distort risk. Thanks to readers Cheryl A. and U. Doran, I read the best description of how derivatives are written and sold--and how they blow up: Fiasco: The Inside Story of a Wall Street Trader.

http://www.oftwominds.com/blognov07/empire-debt1.html

Reading the headlines gives us a much better sense of how bad the situation is. The alarming items on the list below are each links to stories about the SF Bay Area oil spill and they give a very good sense of how bad it is. They're in a column to the right of the article about the spill...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/11/10/MNDRT9K8D.DTL

Oil cleanup efforts double
Fishermen vote to close crabbing
Angel Island closed
Confusion over ship's path
Ship captain says cleanup vessels took 1 1/2 hours to show up
Skimmers removing oil from bay, ocean
Marin beaches hit hard
Baykeeper boat searches for overlooked problems
Oil, tar balls drifting toward Farallones seabird refuge
Thousands jam phones to volunteer
Helping fouled, frightened birds isn't easy
Beach cleanup is no picnic
Spill hits prime crabbing areas
Captain on errant ship had several mishaps in past
Response called 'unusually slow'
Rush to save seabirds
Dozens of birds killed, hundreds of thousands threatened
58,000-gallon spill shuts beaches
S.F. officials threaten legal action
Cargo ship hits Bay Bridge tower
Heavy bunker fuel oil hard to clean
Coast Guard asking for help

Southern preacher could be saviour of the Republicans

Appearing out of the blue, a jovial hardline creationist offers hope to the embattled right

Paul Harris
Sunday November 11, 2007

Observer

He is a former governor of Arkansas from a town called Hope. He has a nice line in campaign humour and speaks like a Deep South preacher. He is also running for President.
But this is not Bill Clinton of 1992. This is Mike Huckabee, a long-shot Republican contender for the 2008 White House who has burst into the leading pack of the race for his party's nomination.

From barely appearing in the polls a few months ago, Huckabee has surged forward in recent weeks. Some surveys have placed him second in the key state of Iowa, ahead of better-known candidates including Rudy Giuliani, John McCain and Fred Thompson. This has led to a flurry of positive press around Huckabee's campaign, including a profile in Newsweek and glowing praise from top political columnists. 'Mike Huckabee is on a roll,' said Dick Morris, a conservative commentator in the political newspaper The Hill. 'Huckabee could surprise everybody before the votes are counted.'

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/print/0,,331228094-119093,00.html

Another, and larger, oil spill at the Black Sea:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/11/11/russia.oilslick.ap/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

This a Neptunian thing? The Age of Oil can't end fast enough.

http://www.truthdig.com/dig/item/20060207_president_jonah_redux/
President Jonah, Meet Oliver Cromwell!

A Dig led by Gore Vidal

Today, as I sit, like so many Californians, at the heart of what seems to be a vast burning bush, I realize that Jehovah’s jinx of the weirdest American president is as operative in this lowering pre-Halloween season as it was last February when, guided by Scripture, I posted here on the Internet the bad news that our nominal president was seriously jinxed by an unrelenting deity who, from his throne of fire, now blows fiercely upon the west coast of the United States, spreading from San Diego to Malibu to Lake Arrowhead. ....................
QOP

It just gets worse, dudn't it? US to safeguard Pak nukes--but doesn't know where many of them are, etc.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3062727

Mac users, yuppers, Mac's under attack. Go get the Mac patches.

OK, I tried to call tech support this AM but there was a 15 min wait. I did turn it off when I went to get my bi-daily 2 gals of diesel fuel for my heater. I can even get my hotmail on Safari today...........
I was in FIrefox when I got that message ( which I printed out.)
Will do tomorrow!
QOP

Hey Gilgamesh
Thanks for the link and whatd'ya know I got Kucinich again

Stan, glad to hear it!

WASHINGTON, Nov 8 (IPS) - A National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) on Iran has been held up for more than a year in an effort to force the intelligence community to remove dissenting judgments on the Iranian nuclear programme, and thus make the document more supportive of U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney's militarily aggressive policy toward Iran, according to accounts of the process provided by participants to two former Central Intelligence Agency officers.

http://www.ipsnews.net/print.asp?idnews=39978

Cheney, trying to cook intel again? I'm overcome with shock and disbelief.

This article demonstrates the shift of power/wealth/world influence.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/IK13Ad01.html
...The US has started to lose its major weapon: the checkbook. And it is here that other nations who became "Americanized", ie, efficient and rich, have started to replace the US. And it is this that is indicated by what seems to be the trivial fact of replacing an American company by a Chinese one in building an electricity plant in Iraq.

By the way where are at least two cargo loads full of US dollars in pallets flown to the Iraq!?

from above article.............
The report added that one should not blame the US companies engaged in projects because the security situation in the country is appalling. Still, the same security situation will exist for the Chinese, and Iraqi authorities are clearly aware that transferring the assignment to non-US companies will quite displease their masters in Washington.
( yes but the workers will look oriental, and therefore NOT be targets!)

Still, liberty was not the major attraction: the desire was for the American way of life - as it was visualized - and it was the life of economic plenty, a life where everything ran smoothly and efficiently and the American dollar was the king of currencies.

where everything ran smoothly & efficiently.......
"Those Greatest Gen" were efficient! Pluto in Cancer, like our Town Manager (sun in cancer)who works the budget with a finetoothed comb.
Not only was I carrying 2 gallon cans of diesel fuel to keep my heater going ( a week now), BUT the plastic can I bought to carry it in;..HAS an unworkable spout & lacks an airhole to aid pouring.....................Huh! WHo designed it & WHY? Were they on ectasy or crack?
This writer makes a VERY important point!
QOP ( Wands doesn't carry cans of fuel!)

With one email you can send your demands for the impeachment of Cheney to the entire Judiciary Committee and to Nancy Pelosi.

http://www.democrats.com/topelosiandjudiciary

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2007/12/bush200712?printable=true¤tPage=all

The Consequences of Mr Bush

lunaoscura regarding the Daily Tao, you make my heart happy.

Charles, that was never found, along with the money Dov Zakheim reported missing.

Loose Change: Final Cut (facts only):

http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=5474924297300734616&q=loose+change+final+cut+-site%3Ayoutube.com+duration%3Along&total=25&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=4

Thank you all for such lovely birthday wishes! I'm sorry to be away so much (which results in quite a bit of lurking) but as I'm a Realtor in a nasty market and I do not forsee willie Nelson doing a RealtorAid concert in the near future, I also have taken a partime job so I'm just not able to participate as much as I'd like to. Blessings to you all and keep up such wonderful work, energy, and standards! You inspire me!

Blumenthal strikes again with a great history and analysis of the mess now in Pakistan and the US:

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/10981

I just spent 1/2 hour filling out the democrats.com
impeachment emand, only to be told that I have a drupal account & needed to register? Of course when I tried that it refused to recognize my username and password.
I REFUSE TO CREATE ANOTHER! I have 2, don't want to have to remember more than that.
I will call the toll free number to deliver my message to the judiciary!
QOP

Mars Retrograde

http://www.writingsinthesky.com/Default.aspx?PageID=163

The Real Estate Cycle

Robert Gover

The price of real estate tends to move in an 18-to-20-year cycle. From one top to the next bottom, as from one bottom to the next top, about 9 or 10 years usually elapses. The Moon’s Nodes move backwards or retrograde in an average 18.6-year cycle around the Zodiac. Most real estate price tops have occurred with the North Node in Taurus and/or moving into late Aries.

The Nodes are points where the Moon’s orbital path intersects with the Sun’s path. The Moon’s Nodes influence mass psychology, which translates economically to ups and downs in interest rates, employment and productivity. A real estate calculation called the Brennan Cycle moves in tandem with the Moon’s Nodes. Where real estate is concerned, the 20-year cycle of Jupiter-Saturn conjunctions is also of interest. Jupiter, the influence of optimism, energizes speculative buying, and cautionary Saturn is associated with land.

http://www.stariq.com/pagetemplate/article-printer.asp?pageid=7889

Saturday, November 10, 2007

Dependency and Dependable in Relationships - Neptune & Saturn

Elsa P, over on ElsaElsa.com, brought the issue of co-dependency up again, Astrology, Courage and Co-dependence, and after thinking it over, I decided for me it’s more of a matter of connotation. The word co-dependency has very negative connotations for anyone who has been through one of Al-Anon’s programs designed to help those living with alcoholics and addicts. When we think co-dependent we see someone who has given all their power away. However, when we use the word dependable, we have a positive response. In astrological terms, I look to Saturn to describe how dependable a person is, and Neptune to determine how susceptible an individual is to becoming co-dependent.

http://neithnet.blogspot.com/

Listening to Diane Rheam talk to two economists today is like hearing the ghost of Marie Antoinette-the two economists practically poohpoohed people's suffering! Diane was fine, but I can hear the exasperation of the callers. Let them eat chocolate-filled crossiants!
(Cake is too plebeian these days).

ONE WEEK AND TWO TERM PAPERS TO GO.

When I am done with them and have turned them in, I will go get Pitski's ashes. It will probably be the day before Thanksgiving. Perhaps it has worked out for the best. The new term doesn't start until the 5th of December, so I have a period where I can mourn freely before getting back to work.

Chinese submarine pops up in midst of US Navel
exercises...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=492804&in_page_id=1811

wv, did you mean to use 'Navel', instead of 'Naval'? 'Cause the US contemplating it's navel during these war exercises seems to be what was happening! LOL

I pondered which to use...

Posted On: Friday, November 02, 2007, 6:35:00 PM EST

Time To Protect Yourself

Author: Jim Sinclair

Dear Friends,

If you have not started to protect yourself do so on Monday please.

I am quite concerned for all of you as inertia usually prevents people from protecting themselves. I always wondered how a certain ethnic and religious persuasion could remain in Germany as Hitler was clearly coming into power. I would have been out.

Even then, many of those who remained in Germany saved a great deal of their fortunes by certifying their investment shares in international companies, then burning the paper certificates.

What I am getting at is that the signs of an international financial accident are in those incidents that have recently happened.

There is no hiding place as this is a product of the greed and avarice of the new geek kids on the block who have killed themselves, their industry and hurt everyone everywhere. I am sure that in years to come derivative traders will be seen as pariahs and criminals deserving of prison - not as the multi-millionaires they are today.

http://www.jsmineset.com/prnHome.asp?PrintPage=Y&OrgHTYPE=$3$&VAfg=1&RQ=EDL,1&AR_T=1&GID=&linkid=5383&T_ARID=5438&sCID=204&sPID=2&cTID=0&cCat=&PRID=0&cSubCat=&archive=&highstr=&UArts=

John Edwards will not endorse Hillary if she is the candidate. I think he sees the big picture and he doesn’t like it. Dodd calls for unanimity.

http://chrisdodd.com/media/releases/dodd%3A-dems-need-come-together-support-democratic-nominee%2C-regardless-who-it

Short 'n sweet form for petitioning the CA Democratic Party to censure DiFi for some of her latest more egregious actions:
http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/censure

Thanks Shylurker, I'm glad to add my signature to a censure against Feinstein. I've been sending her censuring emails since she voted for the Patriot Act the first time. It's been very frustrating to see what a neocon wannabe she is. And maybe if this picks up some steam Pelosi will take note and have the decency to get nervous.

I signed the petition too. Feinstein needs to be primaried if she doesn't want to retire. I'd ask her to resign, but who knows the person the Governator would pick? If we add people next year, we should ask her and Lieberman to resign and let a Real Republican have the slots. They couldn't be any worse!

http://www.clarksvilleonline.com/2007/11/13/fifty-states-face-voting-machine-lawsuits-uncounted-documents-dre-issues/

Fifty states face voting machine lawsuits; “Uncounted” documents DRE issues

Business as usual will not be the norm over the next 48 hours as Secretaries of State in all fifty states will each receive subpoenas in the National Clean Election lawsuit, according to an announcement made Monday night by activist Bernie Ellis at the Belcourt Theatre in Nashville. There is still time, Ellis said, to require a paper trail for the 2008 election.

More at the link...

Dear Carol,

I too listened to Diane Rehm this a.m. and let my bath water get cold so I wouldn't miss anything.
I whole heartedly agree with you. There was absolutely no sympathy for the middle class who are feeling the squeeze the most. And most of their comments were vague generalities. My stomach was going in knots wondering when they were going to get to some nuts and bolts.

One of the quest speakers said he was with the McCain campaign and advises McCain on economic issues. The number one complaint he hears is for medical. I don't believe it.

Since I am from Michigan, the number one complaint here is good paying jobs and job security. I think it is nation wide but no one is talking about it. Did you notice how they all kept pounding over and over how wages have grown to keep up with inflation! They have not. They keep trying to shove these unthruths down our throats until we begin to start believing them.

I try to listen to Diane everyday and she is excellent about not letting slights go by without asking for clarification but maybe once or twice a year she will have some real incompetent guests.

Like yesterday's guest John Bolton....but she tries to be fair and let's not forget that the CPB is Republican in majority and they may have influence over who goes on. I don't know.

Tom Ashbrook's "On Point" and "Marketplace" are excellent for more detailed and middle class specific economic trends as well as current and short term outlooks.

Beverly, I will have to check out Marketplace-but wages certainly haven't kept up with inflation.

Think about all of the people who are homeless. I never saw homeless during my Sixties childhood. Even the poorest could live somewhere before urban renewal and gentrification-rented room, residential hotel, the Y. Now all that is gone, and the promised housing is out of reach for people who have jobs.

Kenesian economics was so bad, most people could eat and have a roof. Hippies could be hippies because there was always some sort of job they could get once they went back home. Nowadays, you are out there if you are out there.

A lot of people need a social safety net they helped gut back in the 1990's. I don't know whether to feel sorry for their being deceived or angry.

Speaking of voting issues, my Composition Final paper is on Vote By Mail. The research and the track record in Oregon is very good for it. Vote by mail has a true paper trail, doesn't require people to stand in line in inclement weather, and people can read and study the issues.
A clincher was that Republicans hate this method above all other methods. I wonder why?

Maybe I'll post my paper once it's done.

Carol, I'd love to see it posted all over the place!

........

Edwards' Afternoon News Roundup:

http://www.mydd.com/

There are many great reasons to oppose the Peru Trade deal. Not least is this one cited by the AFL-CIO's John Sweeney.

We are justifiably skeptical about whether the Bush Administration will faithfully enforce the newly negotiated labor and environment protections, since this administration has done such a poor job enforcing these provisions in existing trade agreements.

Hi Shy both my husband and I signed. DiFi needs to go bye bye.

Hi Carol,

The gutting is still taking place of the safety net. And "they" won't stop until it's all gone.

I personally feel some kind of net is necessary if for no other reason than all of nature is cyclic and subject to it's ups and downs and economics is a part of the whole of nature (eventhough manmade) just as we are.
So frightening.

Anyone know exactly what happens to Feinstein's soft soft cushion if the Censure effort succeeds?
(I signed that petition as well).

I recall FeinGOLD'S lonely effort at censuring the criminally insane in Thief, but it wouldn't have amounted to a disturbance of sheer curtains on a summer day. How is this effort different?
Will it amount to a stick a dynamite under her pancakes?

Why not Recall the wench and yank her from her embittered nasty tower? Wouldn't that be of greater consequence?

Oh, how I remember how she and Pelosi decided it was "too late" to make CA's elections FAIR!!!!!!
(dear god in heaven I hate them with such precision).

No recall for senators in CA.

More on Naomi Klein:

Latin America's Shock Resistance

They've been lying.

http://www.businessweek.com/smallbiz/content/oct2007/sb20071025_827398.htm

The Science Education Myth

Forget the conventional wisdom. U.S. schools are turning out more capable science and engineering grads than the job market can support

Political leaders, tech executives, and academics often claim that the U.S. is falling behind in math and science education. They cite poor test results, declining international rankings, and decreasing enrollment in the hard sciences. They urge us to improve our education system and to graduate more engineers and scientists to keep pace with countries such as India and China.

Yet a new report by the Urban Institute, a nonpartisan think tank, tells a different story. The report disproves many confident pronouncements about the alleged weaknesses and failures of the U.S. education system. This data will certainly be examined by both sides in the debate over highly skilled workers and immigration (BusinessWeek.com, 10/10/07). The argument by Microsoft (MSFT), Google (GOOG), Intel (INTC), and others is that there are not enough tech workers in the U.S.

The authors of the report, the Urban Institute's Hal Salzman and Georgetown University professor Lindsay Lowell, show that math, science, and reading test scores at the primary and secondary level have increased over the past two decades, and U.S. students are now close to the top of international rankings. Perhaps just as surprising, the report finds that our education system actually produces more science and engineering graduates than the market demands.

More....

Carol

I really saw a big upswing in homelessness around Chicago when Ronald Raygunzzz came to office. He immediately cut assistance for children and families, homeless shelters and mental health facilities. Citing the legendary and non-existent “welfare queens" the compassionate and patriotic Mr. Reagan threw thousands of people including children onto the streets under the guise of welfare reform. He also never mentioned that, just like now with Iraq vets, many of the homeless were Viet Nam vets with various mental health problems and what we now recognize as post-traumatic stress syndrome. As the stomach turns.....

Shylurker, then if thre is no recall option, what exactly would censure accomplish?
Nothingness?

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/11/10/5138
Naomi Klein's Shock Resistance

swamp, it was everywhere. I know people who died from stress trying to protect their benefits. Ugly detatchment these neocons people have.

Hey!! I wrote a kind of long responce to what I was reading and liked and my post is blocked and I get error 403 post. whats up? Is there an edit for length?

w w w . h a a r e t z . c o m

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Last update - 21:50 09/11/2007

My god, what did we do?

By Dalia Karpel

One night, Tamar Yarom was awakened by one of the soldiers in her unit. He said he wanted to show her something in the basement of the abandoned building where they were staying. "Before we opened the door, I heard this awful noise from a generator and there was a strong smell of diesel fuel. I saw a middle-aged Palestinian detainee lying with his head on the generator. His ear was pressed against the generator that was vibrating, and the guy's head was vibrating with it. His face was completely messed up. It amazed me that through all the blood and horror, you could still see the guy's expression and that's what stayed with me for years after - the look on his face."

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/922009.html

Patb, the Censure of DiFi might be nothingness to some, I'm hoping the pressure Californians bring to bare on Harry Reid to dump the bitch off of her committee assignments, off Judiciary, off Defense, reduce her to getting coffee.

California does everything by proposition, and Californians are looking for a way to send her packing home. There is some argument that Arnie would put a wingnut in as Senator, for a Gop'er he's been sort of centrist (Maria and Uncle Teddy must have had some impression on his bone head).

I'd like to see Schumer take some heat for his vote, he's as dirty as DiFi, Zionists.

So much for my opinion before morning coffee.

Morgana, thanks for the sort of meaning of censure (Headline: Feinstein forced to wear Leper's Bell). Those beady little eyes that embittered mouth.
...and you're right, 200% right about Schumer.
I looked everywhere to see what consequences HE's
experiencing (couldn't find a thing).
His chart and progressed chart you should see. 11-23-50 Brooklyn,NY. My nutshell impression:
Flipping. Consequences. Delusional (mars sq nep)
so in keeping with so many 'lawmakers' and crazymaking decisions. Hey, Chuck! Your moon is wobbling big time on yr birthday this year, pal.

Patb,
The DFA (Dean boyz) has sent all their membership Harry Reids phone # to call and tell him to remove DiFi from her committee assignments. Whether your from California or not, Harry needs to remove her since she is undermining the Democratic Party.

Here's his number 202 224-3542

http://www.democracyforamerica.com/

The thing about a censure is that it goes into the history books. If she gets censured by the party it will be like a big fat fly sitting on top of the turd she calls her legacy. There will be no mistaking the people's opinion of her. It counts for something.

Plus, it should make the Democratic leadership nervous to know just how mad the public is.

Thanks wv for the Real Estate Cycle post. I found it really accurate with what I've been hearing from (experienced)investors and lenders.

R.O.F.L.M.A.O!!! Can you believe it?!?!?

http://salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/11/14/wall_st_journal/

WSJ Op-Ed page decries hatred of the president

Extreme hypocrisy is far too common to take note of every time one sees it, but sometimes it is so jaw-dropping that it can't be ignored. A remarkably petulant column on today's Wall St. Journal Op-Ed page is a prime example.
Its author is Bush supporter Peter Berkowitz, a law professor at George Mason University (he's also a Senior Giuliani advisor -- see update below). Berkowitz's complaint is that "Bush hatred" is so very pervasive yet is so very unjustified, and he frets about "the damage hatred inflicts on the intellect." While he acknowledges that some past Presidents were also hated, he claims "Bush hatred is different," as it's "distinguished by the pride intellectuals have taken in their hatred, openly endorsing it as a virtue." The only specific aspect of Berkowitz's argument worth noting is how typically self-absorbed it is.

As is so often the case for whining right-wing polemicists with pretenses of high-minded grievances, the whole column is actually about him and his bruised little ego. His entire "argument" is nothing more than the by-product of what he perceives to be the oh-so-unfair treatment to which he was personally subjected during two petty social events -- once at a 2004 dinner of "several distinguished progressive scholars, journalists, and policy analysts" where everyone was mean to him because he defended Bush, and a second time at a Princeton panel earlier this year when fellow panelists criticized him for defending Bush. He harbors such a grudge over how mean people were to him on those two occasions that he has converted his anger into some sort of national crisis whereby Bush critics must learn "to discipline their passions and make them an ally of their reason."
But the far more significant aspect of this whole spectacle is that the WSJ Editors -- of all people -- have the audacity to publish a lecture on the grave harms of hatred towards the President. This is the Editorial Page that, throughout the 1990s, did more to infect and degrade our public discourse than anyone this side of Rush Limbaugh and Matt Drudge. But the WSJ Editors were actually far worse than Limbaugh and Drudge, because they put a stamp of establishment journalistic credibility on those rancid dirt-mongers, elevating them to the realm of the credible and influential.

More...

"the damage hatred inflicts on the intellect."
All the more reason for the swift and overdue removal of Bush! His presence is bsd for our health!
QOP

Got that email too for Reid, unable to get through (4x)to their universe beyond beep...beep...beep...busy...alllaaallalalalalahlalala.
Reid's voting almost as bad as Feinstein's ya think he'll do anything? Mr. Me Not Home pesky populace.

If nothing else it demonstrates to the Leadership (ahem tongue in cheek) that the natives are restless. I see Bushyboy dropped to a new all time low... gee ya think?

Was reading the Think Progress piece about the Krongard brothers--one Inspector General of the State Department who stopped an investigation of Blackwater. The other Krongard brother serves on the Board of Directors of Blackwater.

This came out today in Waxman's hearing, after the Inspector General earlier had denied it. I thought, "This is huge. Let me turn on CNN at 6 PM and see what they say."

CNN News had Lou Dobbs talking about the Democratic presidential debate. CNN Headline News had a "reporter" (don't know her name) saying, "The Big Question tonight is (pause) will OJ Simpson go to jail?"

This native is not only restless but exasperated to the point of mutiny.

Was reading the Think Progress piece about the Krongard brothers--one Inspector General of the State Department who stopped an investigation of Blackwater. The other Krongard brother serves on the Board of Directors of Blackwater.

This came out today in Waxman's hearing, after the Inspector General earlier had denied it. I thought, "This is huge. Let me turn on CNN at 6 PM and see what they say."

CNN News had Lou Dobbs talking about the Democratic presidential debate. CNN Headline News had a "reporter" (don't know her name) saying, "The Big Question tonight is (pause) will OJ Simpson go to jail?"

This native is not only restless but exasperated to the point of mutiny.

PS Go to

http://www.buzzflash.com

for link to Blackwater/State Dept. connection.

Was reading the Think Progress piece about the Krongard brothers--one Inspector General of the State Department who stopped an investigation of Blackwater. The other Krongard brother serves on the Board of Directors of Blackwater.

This came out today in Waxman's hearing, after the Inspector General earlier had denied it. I thought, "This is huge. Let me turn on CNN at 6 PM and see what they say."

CNN News had Lou Dobbs talking about the Democratic presidential debate. CNN Headline News had a "reporter" (don't know her name) saying, "The Big Question tonight is (pause) will OJ Simpson go to jail?"

This native is not only restless but exasperated to the point of mutiny.

PS Go to

>http://www.buzzflash.com

for link to Blackwater/State Dept. connection.

Sorry about triple post. I kept getting message that I hadn't entered the right code.

There is a marvelous diary running on KOS right now about Women and Growing Older. I enjoyed the time I spent there and thought to share it with you guys.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/11/14/193632/36

Ok here's the title of the Diary I mentioned above...

Feminisms: Aging—the Good, the Bad and the Ugly
by irishwitch

Good summary of what we're up against with DiFi:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/11/14/192010/19

Anybody got her chart?

Yay! on the Ken Lay front:
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/chronicle/5302617.html

The Krongard sticky wicket: how many ways can you spell perjury?
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/004711.php

Wow! That's verrrrry interesting

Sidney Blumenthal is joining the Hillary Clinton campaign as a senior advisor, and this is his last column for Salon.

Goodbye, Mr. Bush

The Republican will to power remains ferocious. It will take a dauntless Democratic leader to win back the White House and restore dignity to the Constitution.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/blumenthal/2007/11/15/2008_election/

Looks like Sid thinks Ms Clinton has what it takes. With his guidance of course

On the positive beat:

"Surfer dude stuns physicists with theory of everything

An impoverished surfer has drawn up a new theory of the universe, seen by some as the Holy Grail of physics, which as received rave reviews from scientists."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2007/11/14/scisurf114.xml&CMP=ILC-mostviewedbox

Thanks for posting that Stan. It seems we have a new doctrine of 'Presidential Infallibility' - I don't recall the constitution referring to an elcted papacy!

Found on alt.astrology (It's a zoo there!). I would invite the mostly (Chinese and Asian now) astrologers over here-everyone else has left the newsgroup to the skeptics.

ASTROLOGICAL CONFERENCES

24 - 25 November 2007 - 11th International symposium of astrology in
Zuerich, Switzerland, organized by Beatrice Ganz (Switzerland), with Dr
Harald Thurnher (Austria) etc. Info: Phone 41-1-4224682, Fax 41-1-4224620,
Email: beatrice-ganz@bluewin.ch URL: http://www.alocality.ch/symposium/

1 - 2 December 2007 - New York City NCGR Annual Education Conference,
"Something for Everyone", Fashion Institute of Technology, West 27th Street
& 8th Avenue, "A" Building, New York NY, USA. Speakers: Joseph Addeo,Claudia
Bader, Roberta Alessandra Belulovich, Wayne Booher, Dian Bustillo,Pattie
Canova, Joe Carasso, Diane Cramer, Armand Diaz, Ronnie Gale Dreyer, Meira
Epstein, Madela Ezcurra, Geraldine Gately, Kathleen Hanna, Madalyn
Hillis-Dineen, Carol Jepson, Denise Jordan, Linda Joyce,Michael Lutin, Jenny
Lynch, John Marchesella, Eileen McCabe,Margaret McMahon,Arlene Marcia
Nimark, Anne Ortelee, Nona Press, Mark Seltman, Jackie Slevin, Shirley
Soffer,David Tavalin, Eytan Tsioni, Judi Vitale, De Vovchansky, Liane Thomas
Wade, Mark Wolz. Information and Registration: 212-255-3236, Email:
astrojohn@earthlink.net URL: http://www.astrologynyc.org/

24 - 28 January 2008 - The 17th FAA International Conference - Pluto in
Capricorn "Emerging from the Chrysalis" - The Women's College, Sydney
University, Australia. International Speakers: Lynn Bell, Christian Borup,
David Cochrane, Colleen Coffey, Robert Hand, Jeff Jawer, Ray Merriman,
Jonathan Pearl, Erin Sullivan and Richard Tarnas. National Speakers: Gregory
Clare, Tess Cullen, Anne Elliott, Maggie Kerr, Roderick Kidson, Glennys
Lawton and Kelly Surtees, with more to come. Info: Anita Ings Email:
jonita11@bigpond.com.au or Cecily Bazak Email: cbastroquest@gmail.com URL:
http://www.faainc.org.au/

4 - 7 April 2008 - 24th annual NORWAC - The Northwest Astrological
Conference in Seattle WA, USA. Conference Coordinators: Maggie & Laura
Nalbandian. Info - Phone: (206) 930-7613, Email: laurag@astrologyeatl.com
Speakers to be announced.

15 - 20 May 2008 - UAC 2008, Adams Mark Hotel, Denver CO, USA. UAC 2008 will
be the world's largest gathering of professional astrologers ever! Over 270
classes, several pre- and post conference workshops, and many other exciting
events planned specially for this remarkable conference. The faculty is
comprised of 150 of the most highly respected astrologers from all over the
world. URL: http://www.uacastrology.com/

29 October - 2 November 2008 - 6th annual OPA Retreat, location TBD. Info:
Bob Mulligan. Phone: 239-261-2840. Email: BOBMULLIGA@aol.com URL:
http://www.Professional-astrology.org/

22 - 23 November 2008 - 12th International symposium of astrology in
Zuerich, Switzerland, organized by Beatrice Ganz (Switzerland), with Dr
Harald Thurnher (Austria) etc. Info: Phone 41-1-4224682, Fax 41-1-4224620,
Email: beatrice-ganz@bluewin.ch URL: http://www.alocality.ch/symposium/

22 - 25 May 2009 - 25th annual NORWAC - The Northwest Astrological
Conference in Seattle WA, USA. Conference Coordinators: Maggie & Laura
Nalbandian. Info - Phone: (206) 930-7613, E-mail: laurag@astrologyeatl.com
Speakers to be announced.

28 - 29 November 2009 - 13th International symposium of astrology in
Zuerich, Switzerland, organized by Beatrice Ganz (Switzerland), with Dr
Harald Thurnher (Austria) etc. Info: Phone 41-1-4224682, Fax 41-1-4224620,
Email: beatrice-ganz@bluewin.ch URL: http://www.alocality.ch/symposium/

For late-breaking conference updates, plus details on astrological
Newsgroups, Mailinglists, Newsletters, "Astrologie in Nederland" & "Agenda
voor Nederland" go to:

URL: http://www.astropro.com/features/conxions/

--Richard

http://www.astropro.com/

2009 After graduation looks like my best bet for going to something like this. Has anyone ever gone, and if so, what's that like?

Dianne Feinstein was born June 22, 1933 in San Francisco, California. I vaguely remember seeing a chart for her someplace.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dianne_Feinstein

A quote from Dianne:"Winning may not be everything, but losing has little to recommend it. "

Well DiFi, Hell is full of your so-called winners isn't it?!

(/sarcasm)

I found this but don't know if it's any good. The astrologers here might be able to see if it's accurate.

Dianne FEINSTEIN,
born June 22, 1933 at 12:44 AM in San Francisco (CA) (USA)

http://www.astrotheme.fr/en/portraits/tBM9t5mebmJ2.htm

Isn't this a change.

Military chief says Russia not obliged to protect world from U.S.
MOSCOW, November 13 (RIA Novosti) - Yury Baluyevsky, the chief of Russia's general staff, said in an interview with the Russia Today TV channel on Tuesday that the Russian Armed Forces were under no obligation to protect the world from the U.S.

Answering a question as to whether or not the world could count on Russia to defend it from "insidious American plans," Baluyevsky replied, "Today, there is no need to be afraid of the Russian Armed Forces. However, I do not believe that the Russian military is obliged to defend the world from the evil Americans".
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20071113/87814389.html

Woot! Woot! Let's hear it for Carol and Lunaoscura who found DiFi's birth data!

While we're waiting to see what the astrologers say, I did a quick chart over at Astrodienst for DiFi. It's interesting (well, to me at least in all my naivete) that she has in Virgo 7 deg Neptune, 15 deg Jupiter and 22 deg Mars. Saturn's transiting through there right now and, of course, Uranus is opposing from Pisces. Her Moon is at 22 Gem, squaring her Mars and Pluto's been messing around in opposition to the Moon.

If the time is correct, those Virgo planets are in the sixth house. Hmmmm.

Interesting and there is, of course, lots more which I hope we'll be learning soon.

Must be commonly accepted:

http://www.khaldea.com/charts/dianefeinstein.shtml

On the ongoing Blackwater Congressional investigation. I apologize for the length but I received this email from the Center for American Progess and I can't find it on their site, so I'm posting the whole relevant portion.
*******
CENTER FOR AMERICAN PROGRESS ACTION FUND
The Progress Report
by Faiz Shakir, Amanda Terkel, Satyam Khanna, Matt Corley, and Ali Frick
November 15, 2007

IRAQ
Blackwater Buzz

The State Department has been facing rough times lately, with its lax oversight of
government contractors under scrutiny, diplomatic dissatisfaction over forced
postings to Iraq, and a behemoth embassy in Iraq that is expected to cost $144 more
than projected. The official who is supposed to be rooting out this "waste, fraud,
abuse, and mismanagement" at the agency, Inspector General (IG) Howard Krongard, is
instead fending off allegations that he has politicized the agency and blocked
investigations. As House Oversight Committee chairman Henry Waxman (D-CA) noted in a
September letter, it appears that Krongard's "foremost mission is to support the
Bush Administration, especially with respect to Iraq and Afghanistan," rather than
"act as an independent and objective check."

INSPECTING THE INSPECTOR GENERAL: Krongard yesterday appeared before the House
Oversight Committee to defend himself against allegations that, among others, he
stalled investigators from cooperating with a Justice Department probe waste
relating to the new U.S. embassy in Iraq and refused to send "any investigators"
into Iraq or Afghanistan to "pursue investigations into wasteful spending or
procurement fraud." In late September, Waxman also found that Krongard's senior
staff "attempted to coerce" State Department employees from cooperating with
Congress's investigation, threatening them with their "jobs and careers." Even a
report by the committee's Republican staff found "substantial support" that Krongard
would regularly "belittle employees" or treat them harshly. "Several witnesses
observed that the IG had a poor regard for government workers," the report
concluded. The FBI is also investigating Krongard and the American Foreign Service
Association has called for his ouster.

AN 'UGLY' REALITY: One of the most serious charges against Krongard is that he
impeded an investigation into whether Blackwater USA employees illegally smuggled
weapons into Iraq that were then sold on the black market. In a Sept. 18 letter,
Waxman revealed that Krongard had ordered his employees to "IMMEDIATELY" stop
cooperating with federal investigators. Krongard has denied this allegation, but
yesterday's hearing revealed that he has a conflict-of-interest with the contractor:
his brother, Alvin "Buzzy" Krongard sits on Blackwater USA's advisory board. At
first, Krongard vehemently rebuffed the charge, calling it an "ugly rumor." "It
couldn't possibly have affected anything I've done, because I don't believe it," he
said. Yet during a break in the proceedings, Krongard called his brother and
confirmed that the "ugly rumor" was in fact true, and promised to recuse himself
from any Blackwater investigations: "I learned that he had been at the advisory
board meeting yesterday. I had not been aware of that." Krongard claimed that the
last time he talked to his brother -- "about six weeks ago" -- Buzzy had not been on
Blackwater's board. But TPMmuckraker.com's Spencer Ackerman yesterday spoke with
Blackwater spokeswoman Anne Tyrrell, who said Buzzy was invited to join the board in
late July and "accepted soon after," raising doubts about Krongard's timeline. In
fact, Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD) presented a Sept. 5 e-mail at yesterday's hearing,
in which Blackwater wrote to Buzzy to "thank you for accepting the invitation to be
a member." Buzzy also told Ackerman that about two or three weeks ago, he told his
brother he would be joining the advisory board.

FUTURE CONTRACTING: Blackwater is a State Department contractor and has received
hundreds of millions of dollars of work from the government. The Bush administration
has repeatedly rushed to the defense of Blackwater after the deadly September
shootout that killed 17 Iraqi civilians, even promising legal immunity to the
company's guards. But an FBI investigation concluded yesterday that the employees'
shootings were "unjustified under State Department rules for the private guards,"
although charges remain uncertain. Despite these troubles, Blackwater is likely to
continue its association with the State Department, which is why Krongard's
conflict-of-interest is so troubling. Just weeks after the September shooting, the
State Department awarded the firm a new $92 million contract. Blackwater is also
"one of five military contractors competing for as much as $15 billion over five
years to help fight a narcotics trade that the government says finances terrorist
groups.

Mars went Rx today...

"Israeli legislature votes to seize East Jerusalem

The Israeli Knesset (Parliament) gave preliminary approval on Wednesday to a bill that would seize East Jerusalem, in contravention of international law and UN resolutions, and make it part of Israel."

http://www.imemc.org/article/51511

http://d21c.com/aquariusmoon/EverydayStuff/ShowThemes/gangsters_paradise.mid

Good midi for today....

The Lyrics:

Gangsters Paradise – Coolio

As I walk through the valley of the shadow of death
I take a look at my life and realise there's not much left
Cause I've been brassing and laughing so long that
Even my mamma thinks that my mind is gone
But I ain’t never crossed a man that didn't deserve it

Me be treated like a punk, you know that's unheard of

You better watch how you talking, and where you walking
Or you and your homies might be lined in chalk
I really hate to trip but I gotta lope
As they croak I see myself in the pistol smoke ... fool
I'm the kinda G that little homies want to be like
On my knees in the night, saying prayers in the street light

They been spending most their lives living in the gangsta's paradise
We keep spending most our lives living in the gangsta's paradise

Look at the situation, they got me facing
I can't live a normal life, I was raised by the strip
So I gotta be down with the hood team
Too much television watching got me chasing dreams

I'm a educated fool with money on my mind
Got my 10 in my hand and a gleam in my eye
I'm a loped out gangsta set trippin banger
And my homies is down so don’t arouse my anger ... fool
Death ain’t nothing but a heartbeat away
I'm living life do or die, what can I say
I'm 23 now but will I live to see 24
The way things is going I don't know

Tell me why are we so blind to see
That the ones we hurt are you and me.

They been spending most their lives living in the gangsta's paradise
We keep spending most our lives living in the gangsta's paradise

Power and the money, money and the power
Minute after minute, hour after hour
Everybody's running, but half of them ain’t looking
What's going on in the kitchen, but I don't know what's cooking
They say I've got to learn but nobody's here to teach me
If they can't understand it, how can they reach me

I guess they can't
I guess they won't
I guess they front
That's why I know my life is out of luck ... fool

They been spending most their lives living in the gangsta's paradise
We keep spending most our lives living in the gangsta's paradise

Tell me why are we so blind to see
That the ones we hurt are you and me.
Tell me why are we so blind to see
That the ones we hurt are you and me.

from

http://www.chezmorgaine.com/Lyrics/Gangster.html

OK!
DIFI Sabian Symbols
ASC 14,08 Aries: A serpent coiling near a man & a woman.
SUN 0,28 Cancer: On a ship the sailors lower an old flag and raise a new one.
MOON 22, 53 Gemini: Three fledglings in a nest high in a tree.
On Jan 27 08 Pluto will oppose directly her sun!

When that happened to me in Nov. 88, my business just started going down the tubes ( due to the economic events that were happening then, following the Oct 87 stock market crash!)Been treading water trying to climb back up on the dock ever since!
QOP

http://www.planetaryvisions.net/pluto%20o%20sun.html

Oppositions: This is a polarized energy which brings challenges and confrontational influence. One Planet versus the other. Brings issues to peak and culmination. Also brings circumstances beyond your control.

Pluto Opposition Sun
A very long relentless and rare transit. The doors to the past are closing. This Opposition is usually associated with new start overs in life. Challenges ~ many upheavals in life. Long range decisions most likely have to be made. A time to concentrate on finding new ways, personal paths and means. Confronted with another person and/or the need to wrestle control away from other people and give it back to yourself. Caution ~ situations and circumstance where you are involved in power struggles with others. May indicate powerful advisories and opponents who act as continuing obstacles. Not a good time to go head to head on major issues of life. Remember ~ try not to dominate and meddle in others affairs. Attitude ~ brings a powerful personal drive and ambitious nature. Intense self awareness. Indications of non conformity and reclusivness. Opportunities ~ a time when whatever you gain ~ your loss could be more - however much depends on past circumstances. Caution ~ possible conflicts with authorities. Relationships ~ ending of certain romantic and/or social ties. Love ~ dangerous love affairs.

Another explanation of Pluto opposition Sun (first an overview of Pluto-Sun transits in general)

http://www.cafeastrology.com/plutotransits.html

Pluto-Sun Transits

Pluto transits to the Sun challenge us to face up to unexpressed or poorly expressed traits of our Sun sign, house, and aspects. We discover our own power and strength, and we re-work our very sense of identity, which invariably affects our life path. How we have defined ourselves to date is now challenged. In some cases, women live this transit through key male figures in their lives. These transits force us to confront our will, power, assertion, and authority. Sometimes, the relationship with the father or other important male figures come into focus. We face the need to be more independent, assertive, and autonomous. Perhaps most importantly, Pluto transiting our Sun puts us face to face with exactly what it is that has been holding us back from living life more fully and meaningfully.

Look for Leo in your natal chart, as the Sun rules Leo, and this is an area of life that will be directly affected by the transit (in addition to the house where the transit actually takes place).

Pluto transits opposite Sun

*You are driven more by instinct than by reason now. You are gripped by an almost fanatical and compulsive need to make fundamental changes in your life. Your compulsive urges take many forms, but a particularly strong one is the need to rid yourself of limitations, restrictions, and obstacles.

+Power struggles, with authorities in particular, can be one sign of this aspect. Your need for constant inner change and growth may end up setting you back as much as it helps. Your ambitions and basic life direction could be challenged.

Democratic debate tonight in Las Vegas, hosted by CNN 5pm PST. Will have to see how the energies play out on them tonight.

btw Bill Richardson's birthday is today.

11/15/1947 Pasadena, CA (no known time used 12:00 pm)

Ok just too interesting not to pass along.
Arnie and Al will be moderating a climate change forum with the Presidential candidates next month.

http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_7471548?nclick_check=1

Thanks, Carol, for that chart for DiFi also. So interesting what everyone is posting.

Looks like Comet Holmes continues to expand. It doesn't appear to be near the ecliptic yet, but it's still interesting esp. since it's being considered by astronomers as the largest visible object in the solar system, even larger than the Sun:

http://www.spaceweather.com/

"GIANT COMET: "Formerly, the sun was the largest object in the Solar System," says University of Hawaii astronomer David Jewett. "Now, Comet 17P/Holmes holds that distinction." On Nov. 9th, a team of Hawaii astronomers led by Rachel Stevenson measured the diameter of the comet's expanding debris cloud: 1.4 million kilometers, slightly larger than the sun itself"

http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/15/lies-damned-lies-and-bush-lies/#more-12921

Lies, Damned Lies and Bush Lies

There was some sort of effort to address DiFi's concern about the FISA bill, so they made some amendments. Then, guess what? She voted with the Dems to move it out of the Judiciary Committee. Wonders never ceasing season, I guess.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/15/judiciary-committee-approves-bill-to-update-surveillance/

Oh PatC!

Reading about all the "Damned Lies" makes me feel like the mythological figure "Sisyphus" who was condenmed for life to rolling a boulder up a mountain only to have it fall back down again in a never ending cycle.

If Democrats take the WH and both houses of Congress in 2009, I wish they would work from this list, one item at a time, to restore these losses and values. I suspect however that they will have other priorities and the American working/middle class will continue to take a back seat.

Is this a sample of things to come.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/FBIraidslibdol.php

shylurker,

Yah I'm stunned! This is awesome!

"Feinstein buckles - You did it! by Charles Chamberlain

Dear DFA Members,

I don't normally post a message this late in the day, but something incredible just happened.

This evening, the Senate Democrats finally stood up to President Bush. And it was all because of DFA members like you.

Senate Democrats are now refusing to let Bush get away with his latest egregious abuse of power. They voted unanimously for a bill WITHOUT retroactive immunity to the major telecom companies who broke the law."

http://www.blogforamerica.com/view/22995#more

To anonymous poster about Liberty Dollar raid: yah and look what came out this morning:

"COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. – The commander of USNORTHCOM says he's prepared to obey any order from the president to deploy U.S. troops on American soil in response to a domestic emergency.

"If he were to choose to declare a national emergency, then clearly we at USNORTHCOM would be able to operate in that environment, in response to direct orders from the secretary of defense," Gen. Victor E. "Gene" Renuart told WND at his Peterson Air Force Base headquarters in Colorado Springs, Colo."

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58696

So they can't do this, right? This is the Republic, there's no way the military can be used against us, right? Katrina was just like, an exception or something, right?

There's:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act

right?

Wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.R._5122

That one combined with the Patriot Acts means... well, to answer your question, anonymous, quite probably.

http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/174863

Tomgram: As the World Burns

Resource Wars in the Homeland

"Resource wars" are things that happen elsewhere. We don't usually think of our country as water poor or imagine that "resource wars" might be applied as a description to various state and local governments in the southwest, southeast, or upper Midwest now fighting tooth and nail for previously shared water. And yet, "war" may not be a bad metaphor for what's on the horizon. According to the National Climate Data Center, federal officials have declared 43% of the contiguous U.S. to be in "moderate to extreme drought." Already, Sonny Perdue of Georgia is embroiled in an ever more bitter conflict -- a "water war," as the headlines say -- with the governors of Florida and Alabama, as well as the Army Corps of Engineers, over the flow of water into and out of the Atlanta area.

He's hardly alone. After all, the Southwest is in the grips of what, according to Davis, some climatologists are terming a "'mega-drought,' even the 'worst in 500 years.'" More shockingly, he writes, such conditions may actually represent the region's new "normal weather." The upper Midwest is also in rainfall-shortage mode, with water levels at all the Great Lakes dropping unnervingly. The water level of Lake Superior, for instance, has fallen to the "lowest point on record for this time of year." (Notice, by the way, how many "records" are being set nationally and globally in these drought years; how many places are already beginning to push beyond history, which means beyond any reference point we have.)

And then there's the southeast, 26% of which, according to the National Weather Service, is in a state of "exceptional" drought, its most extreme category, and 78% of which is "drought-affected." We're talking here about a region normally considered rich in water resources setting a bevy of records for dryness. It has been the driest year on record for North Carolina and Tennessee, for instance, while 18 months of blue skies have led Georgia to break every historical record, whether measured by "the percentage of moisture in the soil, the flow rate of rivers, [or] inches of rain."

Atlanta is hardly the only city or town in the region with a dwindling water supply. According to David Bracken of Raleigh's News & Observer, "17 North Carolina water systems, including Raleigh and Durham, have 100 or fewer days of water supply remaining before they reach the dregs." Rock Spring, South Carolina, "has been without water for a month. Farmers are hauling water by pickup truck to keep their cattle alive." The same is true for the tiny town of Orme, Tennessee, where the mayor turns on the water for only three hours a day.

And then, there's Atlanta, its metropolitan area "watered" mainly by a 1950s man-made reservoir, Lake Lanier, which, in dramatic photos, is turning into baked mud. Already with a population of five million and known for its uncontrolled growth (as well as lack of water planning), the city is expected to house another two million inhabitants by 2030. And yet, depending on which article you read, Atlanta will essentially run out of water by New Year's eve, in 80 days, in 120 days, or, according to the Army Corps of Engineers -- which seems to find this reassuring -- in 375 days, if the drought continues (as it may well do).

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