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I HAVE A DREAM

Martin Luther King "had a dream," did we see that dream standing on the courthouse steps in Springfield, Illinois today? Maybe!

My son and I were standing in line at a store and a couple was talking about Barack Obama's "I really truly am going to run" speech and one said to the other "what on earth would make a black man think he could run for the president of the US and win?" My son turned around and said "what on earth would make people think he can't?"

One thing for sure, he doesn't completely have the credentials to run as a "white man," and he doesn't completely have the credentials to run as a "black man," but he does have the credentials to run as a member of a diverse human race.

He doesn't have money, he isn't from a "known" family, his roots aren't solid in America, he just sort of sprang up from a short lived marriage whose father took off back to Africa. He was raised in part by his sociologist mother and her second husband and a grandmother. No one heard of him outside Illinois until he ran for the Senate in 2004 and won. There is so little information on Mr. Obama and so few footprints, to date, that Fox News has resorted to making things up.

There are two birthtimes for his Aug. 4, 1961 chart. One, not even rectified but speculated, is 1:06pm. The other I garnered from a chat room on Ann Coulter. It was a birthtime posted, along with 8 other birthtimes, by a person (no name) who said they had access to a government database and his birthtime was 8:39 am. The other posted times for 8 different people that I have and have verified were correct, it was all posted in Jan. 2005. I believe the 8:39am time to be more accurate although it does not give the chart of a president that the speculative 1:06 pm time does. However there are some interesting things to note for election day 2008.

Obama's midheaven in the 8:39am chart is 16 Gemini and by election day will have progressed to 1 degree Leo, conjunct Mercury, the ruler of the Gemini Midheaven and today's announcement had the midheaven conjunct Obama's natal Saturn.

There are a number of fascinating astro connections between the US chart and Obama's and there will be a lot of time down the road to discuss those aspects. The main thing is his natal South Node conjuncts the US Moon; the people relate from some ancient and deep connected feeling and emotion. Some of those emotions will be positive and some unfortunately, quite negative bordering on abject fear of this man being President.

One thing is certain, Neo was correct when he said we are witnessing the bloated end of the Pluto in Leo generation. Obama represents the Pluto in Virgo generation knocking on the door of a "new generation" of leaders. Pluto in Virgo will clean up this planet and they won't care what it costs and science and thoughtful analysis will once again take center state.

In his announcement chart (the speech) he said "this was an audacious move" on his part. Maybe it is but he doesn't really emotionally feel that, even if he feels it intellectually, today's Moon was in the forming stage of a full Moon to his natal chart. While universally the Moon was VOC, it was not as applied to his natal chart (he has a natal VOC Moon in Taurus) Today's Moon was squaring his Uranus and sextile his Saturn. While there exists sudden and unexpected changes in his campaign coming out of nowhere for him, there also exists the potential of making solid gains in his bid (maybe a VP offer) This morning's Sun oppose Saturn aspect and Capricorn on the Midheaven with Mars in close conjunction, conveys the sense of an attempt to hide his light under a basket by the present day Democratic leadership. He does not fit with what's been decided (Hillary) and will Saturn as it squares Obama's natal Moon and the announcement Moon throw cold water on his chances? Possibly, but it won't drown out his opportunities.

The big question of the day these days, "Is America ready and can they elect a women or a black woman for President?" I say let's bring back Carol Mosley Braun and have a black woman for president. I guess that's too much to ask of America.

I hope we can elect a "first" I'm not a huge fan of Hillary, and I haven't given up my secret hope that Al Gore will materialize and his chart completes two yods on election night. Without Gore, I sure would go with Obama and will pray everyday that nothing at all happens to Senator Obama or his family or Hillary Clinton. Sadly in this country amoung some people, hate and violence is still a family value. Both Obama and Hillary will be the recipient of a great deal of hate before this election cycle is past and both will be hated for who they are and the office they are trying to attain. Obama is already creating an angry stir in some parts of the world. http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21207082-1702,00.html
The Election is off and running and there are still miles to go before anyone sleeps. This is projected to be the first billion dollar presidential and each candidate has to raise something like a million dollars a week. High stakes! We all need to pay attention and this time at least see if we can get our money's worth. By the way Obama's Saturn, part of his Grand Earth Trine, conjuncts the US Pluto, he will bring money back to America.

Sally Cheyne McDonald on Feb 11 | Link
Comments

Ahh Sally!! Thanks for this article! Excellent analysis. I watched the Obama speech and thought it very powerful indeed! I intuitively trust the guy for some reason.

I agree there will be much hate towards him and Hillary too. It's such a shame.

Posted by: Laurie on February 11, 2007 07:26 AM

Thanks Laurie,his announcement chart wasn't as bad as it seemed at first glance. That VOC Moon actually wasn't VOC to his chart, as long as the Moon is making aspects to an individual chart the Universal VOC doesn't impact everyone so that was good. Obama will one day be President I think, just don't know if it's now, however if he is picked for VP and he takes it, it will lead to the Presidency for him. I don't count him out however for this time around, we will have to see. The most interesting thing is the Sun/Saturn opposition at 21 Aquarius/Leo respectively. That degree is where Saturn and Neptune meet up for their second opposition, Saturn falls on GWB's Venus, Obama could certainly stand in stark contrast to George.

Posted by: Sally on February 11, 2007 08:32 AM

An expanded view of Obama by Alex Miller-Mignone

http://www.daykeeperjournal.com/alex.shtml

Posted by: Sally on February 11, 2007 08:42 AM

"...I haven't given up my secret hope that Al Gore will materialize and his chart completes two yods on election night."

I love Al Gore. I dearly want him to run. I believe he would win, and so would the world....but what about these yods? Can you elaborate?

Posted by: Pat C on February 11, 2007 09:52 AM

Thanks, Sally, for another great piece.

I also have my heart set on Al Gore for oh SO many reasons!

Hillary just leaves me cold - it's not that she is a woman, it's that she is a DLCer & favors the "go along to get along view" & frankly this is just weak. The Democrats have done this wimpy stuff for way too many years. This is partly why this country is in the mess it's in. We need strong leaders, not wimps.

Obama just doesn't have enough experience in my opinion. The next President is going to be faced with an incredible number of crisis situations to deal with. Health care, depression/recession, Iraq/Iran war, stronomic national debt, global warming, Social Security, uncooperative world powers (who can blame them?), actual terrorist events, peak oil & let's see - what else can we add to the list? Any one of these issues would be overwhelming, but all of these are going to drop during the next decade. I like Obama, but I just don't see him being capable of dealing with all of it.

There isn't a very long list of people who could handle the mess that is coming. In fact, it's a pretty short list! It has one name on it :)

Al Gore.

Posted by: Morague on February 11, 2007 10:57 AM

Interesting article in an Indian newspaper

http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/15525.asp

The rise in gold and relative fall in copper is sign of last stage of the bull market in stocks – the same happened in 1929

....The Dow is forming an elliptical top. A final spike and then the bubble burst are likely this year similar to the year 1929. Between 1929 and 1934, Dow gave back 86% of the value. This time it will over many decades because of globalization. When all done, the world will be different – perhaps that is what Mayans predicted for 2012!

Posted by: penny on February 11, 2007 12:23 PM

Gonzales' sacking of US Attorneys like a 'coup d'etat'
Michael Roston

A columnist at Salon has described Attorney General Alberto Gonzales' sacking of United States Attorneys involved in controversial prosecutions as an act that amounts to a "coup d'etat."

Joe Conason highlights the removal from office of Carol Lam, Bud Cummings, and John McKay, U.S. Attorneys in San Diego, Little Rock, and Seattle respectively, whose prosecutions ran against the partisan interests of the Bush White House. These acts, Conason writes, suggest that "the White House and the Justice Department have been exposed in a secretive attempt to expand executive power for partisan purposes."

The ability of the White House to swap out U.S. Attorneys with partisan appointees resulted when the staff of Senator Arlen Specter inserted a measure in the renewal of the USA Patriot Act that "permitted the White House to place its own appointees in vacant U.S. attorney positions permanently and without Senate confirmation."

According to Conason, Specter says he was not aware of the action by a member of his staff.

The Senate Judiciary Committee is working to restore the US Attorney appointment system to its earlier nonpartisan status. Conason hopes that they will go further in their response.

"The Senate Democrats should continue to probe the attorney general's little coup d'état and all of the resulting appointments. That is the best way to discourage future usurpations -- and to frustrate whatever skulduggery was afoot this time," he writes.

http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=20135

Posted by: Pat C on February 11, 2007 01:00 PM

PM condemns Barack Obama
February 12, 2007 01:00am

PRIME Minister John Howard has made an unprecedented foray into the US election campaign, denouncing Democrat presidential candidate Barack Obama as irresponsible for pledging to withdraw troops from Iraq.

A staunch ally of Republican President George W. Bush throughout the Iraq campaign, Mr Howard yesterday said an election win in November next year for Senator Obama or his party would have disastrous consequences.

Mr Howard also criticised Senator Obama's introduction of a Bill to remove combat forces from Iraq by March 31 next year. "If I was running al-Qaeda in Iraq, I would put a circle around March 2008 and pray, as many times as possible, for a victory not only for Obama, but also for the Democrats," he said.

In launching his bid for the Democratic presidential nomination at the weekend, Senator Obama labelled the Iraq war a "tragic mistake".

His Iraq policy prompted immediate criticism from Mr Howard, who labelled him "wrong" and a "long way from being president of the US".

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,21209258-2,00.html?from=public_rss


Mind Your Own Business Howard

by Steve Soto
I must admit that I like Team Obama’s ability to counterpunch. Late today, it was Australian Prime Minister John Howard’s turn to walk into a punch, after he smeared Obama for being Al Qaeda’s preferred candidate:
Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs, traveling with the senator in Iowa, said that Howard's words were misguided.
"The United States has sacrificed more than 3,000 brave young men and women and $400 billion, only to find ourselves mired in the middle of a sectarian civil war," he said. "Even Republicans ... know that more of the same is only going to attract more terrorists to Iraq and make our country less safe."
Gibbs went on to say that Howard wasn't in a position to be overly critical.
"If Prime Minister Howard truly believes what he says, perhaps his country should find its way to contribute more than just 1,400 troops so some American troops can come home," he said. "It's easy to talk tough when it's not your country or your troops making the sacrifices."
Nice work guys, against an imbecile who has no business sticking his nose into another country's politics.

http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/009820.php

Posted by: Pat C on February 11, 2007 02:48 PM

http://welcome-to-pottersville.blogspot.com/2007/02/frank-rich-stop-him-before-he-gets-more.html

Frank Rich: Stop Him Before He Gets More Experience

As the official Barack Obama rollout reaches its planned climax on “60 Minutes” tonight, we’ll learn if he has the star power to upstage Anna Nicole Smith. But at least one rap against him can promptly be laid to rest: his lack of experience. If time in the United States Senate is what counts for presidential seasoning, maybe his two years’ worth is already too much. Better he get out now, before there’s another embarrassing nonvote on a nonbinding measure about what will soon be a four-year-old war.

History is going to look back and laugh at last week’s farce, with the Virginia Republican John Warner voting to kill a debate on his own anti-surge resolution and the West Virginia Democrat Robert Byrd seizing the occasion for an hourlong soliloquy on coal mining. As the Senate pleasured itself with parliamentary one-upmanship, the rate of American casualties in Iraq reached a new high.

The day after the resolution debacle, I spoke with Senator Obama about the war and about his candidacy. Since we talked by phone, I can’t swear he was clean, but he was definitely articulate. He doesn’t yet sound as completely scripted as his opponents — though some talking-point-itis is creeping in — and he isn’t remotely defensive as he shrugs off the race contretemps du jour prompted by his White House run. Not that he’s all sweetness and light. “If the criterion is how long you’ve been in Washington, then we should just go ahead and assign Joe Biden or Chris Dodd the nomination,” he said. “What people are looking for is judgment.”

What Mr. Obama did not have to say is that he had the judgment about Iraq that his rivals lacked.....

Posted by: Pat C on February 11, 2007 02:54 PM

Dems Seek to Limit, and End, US Iraq Involvement

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/021107Z.shtml

Even before they cast symbolic votes against the Iraq war, newly empowered congressional Democrats are clamoring for a chance to limit and eventually end US involvement in a conflict that has killed more than 3,000 troops.

Posted by: Pat C on February 11, 2007 04:34 PM

Good article Penny. The Federal Reserve has been proping up the stock market for several years, the reality on the street is something quite different. I've been expecting a serious downturn for quite sometime, we will have to see what materializes.

Posted by: Sally on February 11, 2007 04:34 PM


The Obama revolution


He is charismatic, confident and and is starting to change the face of American politics by reaching out across party lines to Democrats and Republicans. But can the Illinois senator, who is set to announce his presidential candidacy this week, go the distance? Paul Harris reports

Sunday February 4, 2007
The Observer


It was the first beauty parade of the Democratic campaign and every candidate had come to Washington's Hilton hotel in strength. They would all speak to the Democratic National Committee and hundreds of its activists in a bid to secure their vital support. Each candidate's team distributed placards to supporters, making sure they were waved at the right moments. Campaign tables decked in flags and banners were set up outside the cavernous conference hall. The faces of Hillary Clinton, John Edwards and others beamed from posters. Badges were handed out. Thunderous pop music - chosen by the candidates themselves - greeted each one as they walked on stage and escorted them off as they left.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,2005485,00.html

Posted by: wv on February 11, 2007 04:54 PM

so glad you looked at this already Sally, thanks!

Obama is my Senator, and I feel a deep attachment to him. He's also 4 days younger than me, maybe that adds to it.

My 19 yr. old son is crazy about him, and I love that! I was thinking this morning that he very well may be the JFK of a new generation. But if Gore runs........... well, all bets are off :)

Posted by: Peg on February 11, 2007 06:11 PM

What about this scenario? The support for a Gore run becomes overwhelming, and he takes Obama as VP? Since they both (from what I can recall from older threads) have very good aspects for '08 election day, I'd think this would definitely be the winning ticket.

That is, of course, predicated on actually having an election. Sally, do you think the administration might actually cancel the next presidential election? If so, are we taking to the streets (astrologically speaking, of course... no one on this board would resort to physical violence!)?

Posted by: Baraka on February 11, 2007 08:06 PM

I like the possibility of a Gore-Obama team. I compared their charts and noticed the following:

Their Suns are trine--Gore at 10:55 Aries, Obama at 12:07 Leo

Gore's Venus (26:01) Taurus conjuncts Obama's Moon and trines his Saturn

Obama's Sun is conjunct Gore's Pluto

Gore's Mercury (16:54 Pisces) sits on Obama's Descendant (in the 8:38 am chart)

Gore's Uranus squares Obama's Mars (Ouch!)

What do you make of these Sally?

Posted by: Timothy on February 11, 2007 08:26 PM

Since governments the globe over seem to be all tarred with the same corrupt brush, perhaps Gore will be the leader outside current government channels to build the support for necessary massive changes. He is already recognized the world over as an exceptional leader. Perhaps his role is much bigger than the 'office of the US presidency' as it is in today's world.

Posted by: kiwijeanie on February 11, 2007 09:08 PM

Oh my ............talk about Sat/Neptune illusion delusion.You can count on one hand the number of Dems or Reps that are not one of "Them" .....they who have sold out the heart and soul of this country to pander to a globalized agenda to control and enslave all of humanity.
Please do due dilligence and really research all sides of the people you think would be good in office.
Here's a starting point.
http://obamatruth.org/
Al Gore is another one with lots of dirty laundry,you just can't see it for all the CO2 propaganda he is spewing.
Did anyone know that the push for the US to sign the Kyoto was done by Enron who greatly influenced the Clinton/Gore Whitehouse stand on Global Warming.Enron was heavily invested in natural gas and wind power so they stood to make lots of money .There was to be NO discussion of any reason for Global Warming other than humanity.Did anyone know that it was Gore who made the final push to get GMO approved.He is not the man he appears to be.He has already been speaking and doing seminars on how to cash in on Global Warming.Don't have his chart at the moment so don't know the astrological factors on him.
Here's an article about the Enron involvement in Kyoto
http://www.predictweather.com/articles.asp?ID=36
Gore's oil money
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20000522/silverstein/4
The real Al Gore on the environment
http://www.debatethis.org/gore/enviro/
This is just the tip of the iceburg.Global warming propaganda is the new WMD.We are in imminent danger the "sky is falling" just like the Iraq lies on WMD.
This is happening to take away more of your freedoms in the name of Global Warming.The ones you already lost were in the name of fake Terrorism.Medical freedoms lost in the name of Birdflu yada yada yada yada.
As always follow the money and now "follow what freedoms will be taken away" due to the latest crisis.Anyone familiar with the UN Agenda 21 will see that Global warming is the tool they need to get this implemented.Just like 9-11 was the tool they needed to put in the Patriot Act which was written long before 9-11.UN biodiversity maps only allow maybe 2% off land mass for human habitation which means nature is OFF LIMITS except to the elite.You will be hearded into habitats contolled on every level.
Also do some research on Global Warming,it is NOT caused by Co2.Read Solar Rain by Mitch Battross.
There is way too much info to post here but if anyone is interested in TRUTH let me know and I will bring it all onboard.
Selkie


Posted by: selkie on February 11, 2007 10:01 PM

UFO sighted in UK

http://snipurl.com/19wk1

Posted by: Pat C on February 11, 2007 11:47 PM

UFO sighted at O-Hare earlier:
http://www.ufocasebook.com/ohare.html

Posted by: shylurker on February 12, 2007 12:37 AM

Really nice video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDhv15EKJNo

Posted by: shylurker on February 12, 2007 01:28 AM

Here's the story on it from the Chicago Tribune shy.

http://snipurl.com/19wri

Posted by: Pat C on February 12, 2007 01:57 AM

thanks for posting the absurdity from our little prime miniature Johnny Howard, PatC. the guy has a very small willy.

Posted by: Lynda Hill on February 12, 2007 02:48 AM

About Gore - I've said it before and no doubt will say it again - Gore's Sabian Symbol for his sun is Aries 11: the President or Ruler of the Country.

Yeaaah! Him and Obama... sounds a bit weird "Gore and Obama" - sort of strange fellows - but it would be so great...

Posted by: Lynda Hill on February 12, 2007 02:49 AM

Lynda, Gore was just on the Grammys. They went crazy when he came on the stage. It warmed my heart. He has such stateliness.

sigh

I love Austrailia. May you get better leadership. You deserve it!

Posted by: Pat C on February 12, 2007 04:23 AM

Good News: The Dixie Chicks won album of the year.
Woooooooooooo Hoooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Chick Power! Free Speech!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Al Gore looked great.

Bad News: Noel Tyl's site was hacked.

Posted by: bhakti on February 12, 2007 04:33 AM

There is something so exciting about the prospect of Obama, whether with Gore or someone else. I'm very happy you see him as president eventually, Hillary. He just seems to me to be the man of the hour and to have "it." He might be a little too lightweight at this point -- time will tell. As far as Gore, I think it will take A LOT for him to run, a lot of soul searching. He might be better off as being the true ruler WITHOUT all the obligations and responsibilities, Lynda. Somehow, I think it's going to be Hillary against Rudy and I think Hillary will win for some reason. It's a good/bad outcome but better than most. Most of the people in this country go for what's familiar and, although Hillary will have enemies, she is familiar. Should be an interesting race though.

Sally, I SO much like the idea of the Virgo in Plutos coming in to clean up the planet, can't happen soon enough, love that Virgo influence of truth and purity.

So glad the Dixie Chicks won for Album of the Year -- that says a lot.

I think I mentioned this hear once but I'd like to say again that I say UFO's, many white lights in overhead, not too high either, at a time in summer when it was still light, maybe 7:30 p.m. They hovered, then may be one or more slowly moved over to another. I never heard that anyone else saw them. I was living in a small town in N.J. at the time, Passaic, driving along the Passaic River. What do you make of the fact that they've been sighted publically twice in the past 6 months in two different places on the globe? They are coming in closer.

One last remark. I heard a moving story that I'm compelled to share. A woman was talking about her mother having Alzheimers and losing almost all awareness until she played the film "Gone with the Wind" for her, and she snapped back and stayed back in her awareness until she died.

Sorry for any typos; I can't reread right now. Mercury is affecting me and I'm on a roll.

Posted by: on February 12, 2007 05:00 AM

I meant, I'm very glad you see him as President eventually, Sally! Sally, Hillary, Nancy, what's the difference? I'm afraid to reread the rest of my comments.

Posted by: on February 12, 2007 05:02 AM

Ooooooooh, I do love this stuff. McNaught over New Zealand
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0702/cometmeteorgalaxy_yoneto.jpg

Posted by: shylurker on February 12, 2007 07:22 AM

Ooooooooh, I do love this stuff. McNaught over New Zealand
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0702/cometmeteorgalaxy_yoneto.jpg

Posted by: shylurker on February 12, 2007 07:22 AM

Not surprised about Howard making those comments -hes in the loop! Murdock's home country is Australia after all! If FOX can prop up Georgie, Murdoch can certainly have put Howard into office.
The Aussie media giant, AKA FOX granddaddy, made LOTS of money peddling the very worst drama rags dressed up as newspapers from way, way, way back.

Posted by: kiwijeanie on February 12, 2007 07:28 AM

shylurker, thanks for posting that photo. I saw McNaught as it passed over and yes, it was awesome!

Posted by: kiwijeanie on February 12, 2007 08:39 AM

The US government finaly found their Luistania!!!
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/02/11/iraq.main/index.html

U.S. ties Iranian leader to bombs killing U.S. troops
BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- The U.S. military Sunday presented evidence it says shows an elite Iranian force under the command of Iran's supreme leader is behind bombings that have killed at least 170 U.S. troops in Iraq.

U.S. officials have made general statements in the past year about Iranian involvement in Iraq, but haven't provided many details.

The charges came at a Baghdad briefing by a senior defense official, a senior defense analyst and an explosives expert, all of whom asked to remain unnamed.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/02/11/iraq.main/index.html

Posted by: on February 12, 2007 10:25 AM

What is the meaning of RMS Lusitania?
The RMS Lusitania was a British ocean liner owned by the Cunard Steamship Line Shipping Company, built by John Brown and Company of Clydebank, Scotland, and launched on Thursday, June 7, 1906. She and her sister ship RMS Mauretania were built to compete with and better the fast German liners of the time. Lusitania took back the Blue Riband in 1907 and she and the Mauretania were the fastest liners of their day.

On May 7, 1915 the Lusitania was torpedoed by a German submarine, the U-20. The Lusitania sank after a subsequent massive internal explosion blew out her starboard bow. The sinking galvanized American opinion against Germany's policy of unrestricted submarine warfare and played a role in the United States' later entry into World War I on April 17, 1917


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lusitania_%28ship%29

Posted by: on February 12, 2007 10:28 AM

Selkie, I went to one of your links and I cannot believe you are researching this yourself with any clarity.

I am just so very happy we have a former VP who is working hard for the earth's health and bringing to light so much of what has been swept under the rug.

I, for one, know intuitively that Gore is not working the environment for his own profit and greed. The man emanates peace, good will and expansion of consciousness.

Shame on you.

Posted by: Laurie on February 12, 2007 11:16 AM

Anonymous at 10:25 & 10:28, Iran is providing the weapons to Iraq?
You are using CNN as a source to "prove"? this is true?
I'm sorry but I don't believe a word they say! They are just pitching propaganda for the Administration, like Fox. Unlike Fox they allow their commentators to insert just enough truth to throw everyone off!
If it is true, so much the worst because thousands like me won't believe it.

OK Diane Sawyer is in Tehran!!!!!!!!!! Lets see what she has to say? ( GMA) Very interesting..Amadinajhad told her she was JUST a Journalist. He is advocating peace/ American pull out of Iraq............
He DID invite the Admin. to talks a while back, which were shunned & ignored! Condi lying thro the gap in her teeth once again saying "I don't remember"being invited to diplomatic talks with Iran!!" Huh? I remember what;s wrong with her memory?
But then she is currently,too busy stirring up the Catholics of Venezuela in their opposition to Chavez' nationalization of Venezuela, to be bothered with Iran!

Dodging ANS & The Grammys, I watched documentaries on Link TV last night.After watching the depredations

http://www.linktv.org/schedule/tschedule.php4?timezone=E&dateshift=0
They do have streaming video. If you want to support them in their fund drive you can call 1-800-400-4000. They are offering DVD's and T shirts an Mugs in their membership drive. The mugs have a map of the world & when you pour in a hot liquid, the coastlines disappear!
After watching the documentary about where the missing billions went in Iraq, and The Stealing of Iraq, I am sick at heart and sick to my stomach! All that Oil for food money was shipped from the UN to Iraq as CASH! It is gone! Iraq is still a mess, and a few evil people are very rich!
Remember what a noise they made about Kofe Anon an George Galloway's involvment in the Oil for Food. d A huge smoke screen!
I can't even be coherant about it you have to experience it for yourselves.
QOP

Posted by: on February 12, 2007 12:36 PM

Thank you, Laurie, for the quick dispatching of the conspiracy theorist who wants us to hear the "truth" about Obama and Gore.

I checked out all of the links, and it was just as I expected: twice-told tales, bad science, and a campaign commercial that is probably the work of Karl Rove.

I saw Obama on 60 Minutes last night. I liked him before, but after watching him, I would have no problem whatsoever giving this man the keys to the White House--esp. when you compare him to who's been running the country into the ground for the last six years.

Posted by: Gina on February 12, 2007 12:55 PM

I appreciate Selkie's input.

Posted by: Peg on February 12, 2007 02:00 PM

That was me at 5 and 5:02 a.m. I was using a different computer.

Have a beautiful day everyone!

Posted by: Sharon on February 12, 2007 02:43 PM

Rumors of War

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17086418/site/newsweek/

Posted by: Pat C on February 12, 2007 03:08 PM

I might appreciate Selkie's contribution to the discussion, but I don't think it should go unchallenged, let alone be accepted as truth.

If Enron stood to make billions from the Kyoto Protocol, why then did that company's biggest beneficiary, George W. Bush, decide not to ratify the treaty?

All accounts were that Ken Lay was present at those Energy Task Force meetings. Ken Lay was also Bush's biggest patron. If there's some kind of hidden agenda to promote the idea of climate change, Enron, Bush, Cheney, et al. seemed to be going in the opposite direction.

Posted by: Gina on February 12, 2007 05:10 PM

Lynda, your comments about Howard left me laughing off my chair.

Interesting the comment on how statesman like Gore looked last night. Eight years ago people were saying that same demeanor was stiff and boring. Now after 8 years of watching this President slouch in chairs, hang over podiums and chew on national TV with his mouth open, my hope is the rest of the country suddenly sees Al Gore as "statesmanlike." The country will say "Gore has changed" (at least 49 percent who voted for Bush) but it won't have been Gore who changed, it will be the country's wish to have someone they can be proud of at the helm.

For 4 years I have been predicting that Gore would win if he ran in 2008, based on Mercury, and two yods on election day that his planets form and his progressed Moon forms a yod in his natal chart. If Gore wants it he can have it, while it would make Astrological predictions come to pass, I sure can understand if he doesn't run. Obama might have a chance, he stirs something in the American people that gives him an edge over everyone else.

Posted by: Sally on February 12, 2007 09:45 PM

Thank you Gina for having an open mind.I didn't think my writing would be well received.I am especially surprised that people who are knowledgeable about astrology and cycles don't see that climate change is cyclical and not man made.The earth has warmed and cooled many times before .I mean there is a reason Greenland which has been covered in ice is called Greenland...............hey it was once green and a very fertile farming area.The glaciers there melted once before and it became GREEN.
I wonder what people think is causing the warming on Venus,Mars and Pluto.There are no fossil fuels being burned on these planets.Something is happening in the solar system.It is not being publicized but NASA is concerned about the strange activity of the sun.We are entereing the most powerful solar cycle which will culminate in 2012.So regardless of how many cars we drive ......shit is going to happen because of this cycle.There was intense activity on the sun when Katrina hit but you will never hear about this on mainstream media.If you read Mitch Battross amazing book Solar Rain it explains how solar activity effects the earth's magnetic core thereby effecting underwater volcanoes which warms the oceans which warms the planets.Solar activity also effects weather (Katrina) and peoples behavior.If anyone can accept this theory it should be astrologers People's admiration of Gore reminds me of the Christian rights belief in Bush as a man of God.There are too many scientists who don't agree with the UN report.Many are afraid to speak out because they will loose jobs ,grant monies etc.The climatologist for Oregon has spoken out again the UN report and the governor of Oregon wants to take away his title and he has held this job since 1991.He's not being politically correct but at least he has guts.Global Warming is the left's WMD.

Posted by: selkie on February 13, 2007 12:47 AM

Go here for more insight into the global climate change:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Warm_Period

Posted by: shylurker on February 13, 2007 01:40 AM

The consensus of the scientists who met last week was that climate change is 90 per cent man-made. I don't believe there is any conspiracy to suppress any "evidence" to the contrary.

The climatologist for Louisiana disputed these findings, but Louisiana is an oil-producing state, and you're not going to find officials there who are not pro-industry. The Department of Environmental Quality in Louisiana is a joke.

By and large, the people who dispute the finding that climate change is man-made are usually people who are in some kind of industry that does great damage to the environment, whether it's oil, petrochemicals, recreational motorized snow vehicles, or people who are convinced that they have a whole new method, such as planetweather.com.

No, I don't think Al Gore's perfect, but I sure don't think Al Gore and George Bush are one and the same, as you suggest (BTW, that website was from 2000), nor am I convinced that Al Gore would have done the same things the George Bush has done to our freedoms in six years in office, had Bush v. Gore been decided differently.

Al Gore wouldn't have misled us into Iraq; nor would he have disregarded the very laws he signed with "signing statements," like GWB has, over 800 times. And he damn sure wouldn't be pushing to make torture acceptable, let alone all but legalized for "enemy combatants."

Posted by: Gina on February 13, 2007 01:40 AM

This is an interesting blog on weather and global warming.

http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/show.html

I have to wonder why it is only Democrats who are required to be perfect, and Republicans are considered perfect no matter how flawed they truly are.

Posted by: Pat C on February 13, 2007 02:14 AM

At the risk of being gross I think that if you live in LA, or in Mexico City, or in any number of cities which have a heavy concentration of pollution and you blow your nose and brown stuff comes out, that the air is filthy, fowl, and toxic. There is a correlation between the pollutants in the air and water and lung diseases, asthma and the embryonic development of many species. Not too long ago there was acid rain, which when combined with air pollution was literally making statues melt and metals rust. But there are people who still think that man made pollutants are really harmless and that they don't contribute one tiny little bit to the planet's cyclical warming. I think that it shouldn't matter whether our cars belching out toxic waste contribute or not. WHY NOT STOP THE POLLUTION JUST ANYWAY?!

Bush may go around telling the world that God speaks through him, but Gore simply uses the brain God gave him.

Posted by: lunaoscura on February 13, 2007 02:34 AM

Actually, we really don't know who tells Gore what, or Obama either for that matter. I think it behooves us all to stay detached enough until we "see" who has our best interests in mind. Unfortunately, our best interests are often times at question.

"An experiment that hints we are wrong on climate": change:http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1363818.ece

Posted by: Peg on February 13, 2007 02:44 AM

:-D Word.

Posted by: Pat C on February 13, 2007 02:45 AM

This site is interesting too:

http://www.climatehotmap.org/

Lunaoscura, I LOVE your last sentence!!

Posted by: Laurie on February 13, 2007 02:49 AM

A real reporter

http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/interviews/053

Posted by: Pat C on February 13, 2007 02:50 AM

Oh.........Bush's "soulmate" is stepping into his shoes, now that he is ineffectual!
Putin is touring the middle east with Kings Hussain, and Abdullah. who are requesting HIS help in making peace between Isreal & Palestine, now that the Palestinians have made a unified govt.!
After a lifetime of seeing the American President in this role, it is a shock!
QOP

Posted by: on February 13, 2007 03:11 AM

I agree we should get rid of pollution.I'm chemically sensitive and would love all chemicals gone however I still don't accept the UN consensus.
http://www.iceagenow.com/Growing_Glaciers.htm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/07/18/wsun18.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/07/18/ixnewstop.html
From Solar Rain
Sun: More activity since 1940 than in previous 1150 years, combined

Mercury: Unexpected polar ice discovered, along with a surprisingly strong intrinsic magnetic field … for a supposedly “dead” planet

Venus: 2500% increase in auroral brightness, and substantive global atmospheric changes in less than 30 years

Earth: Substantial and obvious world-wide weather and geophysical changes

Mars: “Global Warming,” huge storms, disappearance of polar icecaps

Jupiter: Over 200% increase in brightness of surrounding plasma clouds

Saturn: Major decrease in equatorial jet stream velocities in only ~20 years, accompanied by surprising surge of X-rays from equator

Uranus: “Really big, big changes” in brightness, increased global cloud activity

Neptune: 40% increase in atmospheric brightness

Pluto: 300% increase in atmospheric pressure, even as Pluto recedes farther from the Sun
Hasn't anyone noticed how intense the sun is?When I was growing up it was yellow .....now it is white and piercing.

Posted by: selkie on February 13, 2007 03:33 AM

"Actually, we don't know who tells Gore or Obama what...[or if they have] our best interests in mind..."

Do you really think that Dick Cheney has our best intersts in mind? Or for that matter, the corporate-owned Times of London? Or any media, for that matter?

Here's what I think about what's happening with our response to climate change: it just ain't happening, at all. Period.

We talk about addressing climate change, but in fact, all the human activity is pointing in the opposite direction.

There are simply too many people in positions of influence who have too much invested in not dealing with the issue to deal with it. Lord knows most of us have trouble wrapping our heads around the science, let alone understanding it, and there's just too much fear that if we actually begin to address with climate change, the economy will suffer.

One thing I notice is that, in this country, the people who are fighting the hardest against addressing climate change happen to be conservative Republicans. That group of avowed anti-environmentalists includes Dick Cheney.

Now, if that's who people think should continue running things, then you can bet that climate change is going to continue to go unaddressed. Maybe the consequences won't be as dire as people think; we might not know until it is too late.

The only silver lining I can see in all of this is that technology may be the only thing that saves us.

Hence, I suspect that Gore won't even run. If too many people, and too many vested interests are resisting his message, then it would not make sense for him to run at all.

Even if astrology might indicate that Gore has a date with destiny, the theme of our times appears to be avoiding the call.

As a nation, it's still easier not to deal with our issues than to deal with them; until that changes, we will not address global warming, or foreign debt, or Social Security and Medicare for the aging Baby Boomers, or anything else.

Posted by: Gina on February 13, 2007 05:59 AM

Honestly, I don't think Cheney or anyone "at the top of the chain" has nearly as much of a say in what is coming, as they wish they could have, no matter how much money or power they manage to steal and horde away from the people.

Indeed, this certainly seems to be their "time". But check the clock on the wall. At least last time I did, it was still moving. And so, time goes.

Let me ask you, what happens when a tree stands firm and tall in the midst of a powerful storm? Chances are, it will remain just as firm, but probably not as tall once the storm has passed. At least, not where it once stood, if it is even still standing at all, which it probably isn't.

And yet, how nimble is that shrubbery and the vines?

Let Cheney and Co. plug their ears, close their eyes and sing happy tunes to themselves, while pretending that reality isn't about to sweep them all into the footnotes of history. As a kindred spirit once told me, "Deal with reality, or reality will deal with you."

The major astrological transits of the next 15 years will see the fall of the powers that be who currently seem to dominate this country and the world. Unless, of course, they can change with the times. Otherwise, their fate will also be as broken trees lying on the ground in the wake of their own "Hurricane Katrina", not entirely produced by the forces of nature.

Posted by: NEOBuckeye on February 13, 2007 07:53 AM

"...As a kindred spirit once told me, 'Deal with reality, or reality will deal with you.'"

Thanks for that, NEO! The saturn sextile neptune in my chart loves it! One can go off on any number of wacky tours, but after all is said & DONE, reality is the best possible real. ;O)

Posted by: JoannaOregon on February 13, 2007 10:01 AM

http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=1545&id=50922007

Make a lasting impression for generations to come

Posted by: Pat C on February 13, 2007 02:30 PM

This is an amazing conversation. I don't think one has to be a scientist to see the pollution and errosion of this country or the world. You don't have to be a scientist to see what unchecked greed and raping our oceans and lands have wrought. Increased solar flairs are more impactful on the world because of the tear in the ozone. The observation of what was happening on earth came before the science, there were only a few lone scientific voices out there in the late 50's early 60's who were actually studying this, now the science community all over the world have found some pretty conclusive evidence to back their observations.

The fact is if they are wrong and we have believed them we will look like fools, but if they are right and we don't work together to make changes we and children/grandchildren will be sick or dead or struggling to breath, or living underground. I'm picking the road that says they, including Al Gore and others like him, are right.
That is where I choose to put my energy and money because of all I've read and studied starting with Silent Spring in the 60's.

Yes it has happened before, but why? Was it the millions and millions of and millions of dinosaur flatuence as some enterprising scientist suggested? Who knows the dinosaurs are all gone and yes people will die eventually just like the dinosaurs and millions of other species but the process of earth and possibly the purpose of life is to be good stewards of the earth and by any scientific measurment, we have not been good stewards.

So it boils down to those who want to be and those who don't want to be good stewards. Those who litter this earth and those who don't. I don't see a difference between this and the smoking issue, do you blow smoke in the face of those who don't like it or not and the last several years it's been decided "not."

Take science away, there are countless examples throughout the world that when something as simple as controlling emissions improved the quality of living and health in cities and states. Countless examples of where waterways were cleaned up around the world, disease and birth defects decreased. With or without the science I would continue to work toward less pollution, clean air, health standards, against littering on earth and in space, and a host of other damaging environmental issues and spiritual growth because I do value what's "above and below," and I value my fellow earth travelers.

There was a question earlier that related to "astrologers should be able to see that this has happened before" and astrology does see what happened as the result of events and how it was handled in the past (if it was handled) and the result of the response, hopefully so we can learn and grow and respond more positively when the cycle comes around again. Hopefully through past events the human mind can grasp that if you sit on a train track eventually the train will hit you because it has hit others in the past and "we" from an evolved mentality will get off the track.

It's not the event that's important because events continually happen to us collectively and individually, what are our skills and strengths, individually and collectively, to deal with those events, that is the value of astrology. Events are inescapable, responses can be thoughtfully mapped out, those that think there are no choices are those who have, can and will give their power over to others and will not think for themselves.

The preponderence of responsible science for decades have been telling us that the "train" is coming, I am trying to get off the track, others seem to be sitting there waiting for it to hit them and if science is wrong and the "train" never comes at least we won't look like stupid fools sitting on the track because we have intelligently moved ourselves out of harm's way.

Posted by: Sally on February 13, 2007 04:12 PM

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/IB10Dj03.html

GLOBALISTAN

Visit the market and see the world. - Western African popular saying

A tawdry cheapness shall reign throughout our days. - Ezra Pound

Globalization is like Poe's maelstrom. A black void, rather. No one can escape it. And we don't know how it ends.

What we do know is that it has nothing to do with an "invisible hand." It has to do with maximization of profit; a huge concentration of capital; and the unrestricted power of monopolies. German cross-cultural scholar Horst Kurnitzky tells us globalization has configured "a new world, in which wealth and poverty, with no control by markets or the flux of cash, coexist with no form of social equality." So it's not globalization per se, but greed (that classic Christian sin ...) and high concentration of capital that are responsible, in Kurnitzky's formulation, for "the uniformization and cultural and real impoverishment of the world."

Globalization has been with us for quite some time - in business, finance, culture, drugs, music, pornography. What is relatively "new" is the concept. Now let's summon our good ol' friend Baudelaire, and he'll pop up the question: Hypocrite reader, my equal, my brother (sister), are you sure that technological, capitalistic globalization is a heavenly invention devised for the greater good of Mankind by Adam Smith and Thomas L. Friedman? Are you sure it's inevitable, and that the best that we (and Clyde Prestowitz's Three Billion New Capitalists) can do is manage the necessary adjustments to it? Let's take a closer - global - look from a broader, and more questioning, perspective.

The invaluable Immanuel Wallerstein defines our reality (our Plato's cave?), also known as the capitalist world economy, as "a historic system which has combined an axial division of labor integrated by means of a world market less than perfect in its autonomy, combined with an interstate system composed of presumed sovereign States, a geoculture that has legimitized a scientific ethos as the basis of economic transformations and the extraction of profit, and liberal reformism as the way to contain popular discontent with the continuous socioeconomic polarization caused by capitalist development."

This system, as we all know, was born in Western Europe and then took over the whole world. Now fast forward to the mid-2000s. Wallerstein's judgment is like Zeus throwing his lightning bolt: "The capitalist world economy is in crisis as a historic social system." The world we live in, the way this system we take as a natural fact is articulated and produces "reality," is in "a transition phase towards a new historic system whose contours we don't know." What we can do at best is to contribute to conform the new structure: "The world we 'know' (in the sense of cognoscere) is the capitalist world economy and it is beset by structural faults it cannot control anymore." Gramsci would have framed it as the Old Order has fallen but the New Order has still not been born.

Inevitably, the stage is set for conflict if not mayhem. Wallerstein identifies for the next decades three geopolitical faults we will have to confront.

1) "The struggle among the Triad - U.S., E.U. and Japan - over which will be the main stage of accumulation of capital in the next decades." The third pole of the Triad - Japan, for Wallerstein - should rather be considered as "East Asia," with an emphasis on China.

2) The struggle between North and South, "or between the central zones and the other zones of the world economy, given the continual polarization - economic, social and demographic - of the world system."

3) Wallerstein defines it as "the struggle between the spirit of Davos and the spirit of Porto Alegre over the type of world system we want to build collectively." That is, the system preaching TINA ("there is no alternative") against anybody believing "another world is possible."

More....

Posted by: Pat C on February 13, 2007 04:23 PM

http://www.forbes.com/home/businessinthebeltway/2007/01/31/rubin-summers-middle-class-biz-wash-cx_bw_0201middle.html

Back On Capitol Hill: The Democrats

t should have been a moment of glory for Democrats--President Clinton's two secretaries of the Treasury arriving triumphantly on Capitol Hill Wednesday to testify on the plight of the middle class. Indeed, if there was any remaining doubt that the Democrats are back, it happened in a Congressional hearing room on Wednesday morning.

Basking in their newly regained power, Democrats welcomed Lawrence Summers and Robert Rubin--icons of the Clinton boom years--to the Joint Economic Committee in what seems to be their first appearance together before Congress since Republicans took over in Washington. The intended effect: to show the nation Democrats are serious about tackling income inequality and the vast problems of America's middle class.

snip

till, the hearing gave the pair of former Clinton wise men the opportunity to weigh in on how Congress should rescue the middle class as the country tries to compete in an increasingly globalized universe.

Both men warned the committee not to tamper with markets and not to give in to the temptations of protectionism, even as the American economy goes through some rough patches while adjusting to globalization. They called for more sound fiscal policies to lower the debt-to-GDP ratio; greater investment in education, research, infrastructure and health care; and broader distribution of economic growth--all backbones of the Democratic game plan.

Rubin, now director and chairman of the executive committee at Citigroup (nyse: C - news - people ), noted that real wages have been stagnant for the last five years. He said the low savings rate, enormous current account deficit, increase in entitlements and other factors portend a "deep and multifaceted threat to job creation." At some unknown point, he warned, foreigners are going to lose faith in the American economy and slow down their investment in it.

snip

But neither the committee nor the panel ever got around to the real issue: It's becoming increasingly expensive to be a member of the middle class, and fewer people move into the upper echelons of the income scale.

How does the middle class get ahead when it is drowning in credit card debt? How do the baby boomers' children, who often have liberal arts degrees, compete in a world that increasingly values math and science education? How is it possible for people to buy homes in inflated housing markets? How does a 50-year-old textile worker find another job after his has been replaced by outsourcing?

If it truly wants to buoy the middle class, the Joint Economic Committee will need to answer these and other questions, which neither Rubin nor Summers addressed on Wednesday.

Posted by: Pat C on February 13, 2007 04:27 PM

Thank you, Sally and NEO, for putting things into perspective.

Posted by: Gina on February 13, 2007 04:43 PM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/10/AR2007021001393.html?nav=hcmodule

Ian Stevenson; Sought To Document Memories Of Past Lives in Children

Dr. Ian Stevenson, 88, who spent nearly half a century traveling the world to meticulously investigate hundreds of cases of small children who appeared to recall previous lives, died of pneumonia Feb. 8 at the Westminster-Canterbury of the Blue Ridge retirement community in Charlottesville.

To Dr. Stevenson and his many admirers, his detailed case studies provided more than ample room for, as he liked to put it, "a rational person, if he wants, to believe in reincarnation on the basis of evidence.

In 1977, the Journal of Nervous and Mental Disease devoted most of one issue to Dr. Stevenson's work. In a commentary for the issue, psychiatrist Harold Lief described Dr. Stevenson as "a methodical, careful, even cautious, investigator, whose personality is on the obsessive side." He also wrote: "Either he is making a colossal mistake, or he will be known . . . as 'the Galileo of the 20th century.' "

But with rare exception, mainstream scientists -- the only group Dr. Stevenson really cared to persuade -- tended to ignore or dismiss his decades in the field and his many publications. Of those who noticed him at all, some questioned Dr. Stevenson's objectivity; others claimed he was credulous. Still others suggested that he was insufficiently versed in the cultures and languages of his subjects to do credible investigations. Dr Stevenson responded that his critics should come investigate the cases for themselves. That did not happen.

But Dr. Stevenson himself recognized one glaring flaw in his case for reincarnation: the absence of any evidence of a physical process by which a personality could survive death and transfer to another body.

The evidence he did provide in abundance came not from past-life readings or hypnotic regressions but from using the techniques of a detective or investigative reporter to evaluate claims that a young child, often just beginning to talk, had spontaneously started to speak of the details of another life. In a fairly typical case, a boy in Beirut spoke of being a 25-year-old mechanic, thrown to his death from a speeding car on a beach road. According to multiple witnesses, the boy provided the name of the driver, the exact location of the crash, the names of the mechanic's sisters and parents and cousins, and the people he hunted with -- all of which turned out to match the life of a man who had died several years before the boy was born, and who had no apparent connection to the boy's family.

More...

Posted by: Pat C on February 13, 2007 04:46 PM

Another interesting bit having to do with Comet McNaught, shy, everybody... http://www.reconnections.net/index2.htm

Posted by: JoannaOregon on February 13, 2007 05:27 PM

Barbara Hand-Clow talks about the upcoming New moon in Aquarius (via Conspiracy Planet) and hold on to your hats, folks, ths one is gonna be INTENSE! :

http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=131&contentid=4217

Namaste and love y'all!
G

Posted by: Garry Todd on February 13, 2007 06:29 PM

Thanks, JoannaO!

Posted by: shylurker on February 13, 2007 07:26 PM

Dick "Dick" Cheney and Scooter "Asspens" Libby will not be testifying at the latter's trial. See firedoglake, democraticunderground, etc.

Posted by: shylurker on February 13, 2007 08:19 PM

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=2872192

In Northern Iraq, Another War - Between the Kurds and the Arabs - Looms on Oil-Rich Territory

By BASSEM MROUE and KATHY GANNON KIRKUK, Iraq Feb 13, 2007 (AP)— While the world focuses on Baghdad's security, a series of bombings here may be the long-feared start of a second deadly war in Iraq this one between Kurds and Arabs, both with claims on a territory atop one of the world's largest oil reserves.

If the escalating violence in Kirkuk erupts into all-out fighting between heavily armed Kurdish and Arab groups, it could spark a wider conflict involving Turkey or Iran. That risk puts the United States in a bind, caught between ally Turkey, which is on the side of Arabs and ethnic Turkomen here, and the Kurds, another strong U.S. ally.

More...

Posted by: Pat C on February 13, 2007 10:06 PM

* CAIRO, Egypt - Al-Qaida's No. 2 said [bushaholic] was an alcoholic & a lying gambler who wagered on Iraq & lost, according to a new audiotape released Tue. Ayman al-Zawahri said in the tape that bush has been forced to admit his failure in Iraq after he was "stubborn" & repeated the "lie, which he became addicted to, that he is winning" in Iraq & Afghanistan.

"Bush suffers from an addictive personality, & was an alcoholic. I don't know his present condition ... but the one who examines his personality finds that he is addicted to two other faults — lying & gambling," al-Zawahri said in the audiotape. ... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070213/ap_on_re_mi_ea/zawahri_tape;_ylt=AqjE3lbBJL_95rDXDS23l3Ss0NUE

Posted by: JoannaOregon on February 13, 2007 10:20 PM

JoannaO,
Didn't we kill him several times last year?
QOP

Posted by: on February 13, 2007 11:52 PM

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/13/conservative-letter/

Leaked Letter Reveals Conservative Strategy For Iraq Debate: Don’t Talk About Iraq

Posted by: Pat C on February 14, 2007 12:14 AM

"...Didn't we kill him several times last year?"
QOP

I have no idea anymore, dear Seesta... I hope you aren't including you or I in that "we" bidness! For example, I'm a "Worldist" & nowhere close to being a "nationalist"... especially a stupid one I would hope. ;O)

Posted by: JoannaOregon on February 14, 2007 12:48 AM

This really fine piece by Jane Smiley will go nicely with your piece, Pat C, as counter to a "con strategy" (surely an oxymoron)

* If we step back a moment from the inhumane & criminal debacle that is the Iraq war & look at it as a logic problem, we can see that the aspirations of its architects are, well, absurd, & if there is something to be grateful for with regard to the Iraq war, then perhaps it is that the absurdity of nearly everything Bush, Cheney, Feith, Kristol, Wolfowitz, Bolton, et al represent is now apparent to almost everyone besides themselves. ... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-smiley/the-end-is-nigh_b_41126.html

Posted by: JoannaOregon on February 14, 2007 12:54 AM

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2007/03/whitehouse200703

From the Wonderful Folks Who Brought You Iraq

The same neocon ideologues behind the Iraq war have been using the same tactics—alliances with shady exiles, dubious intelligence on W.M.D.—to push for the bombing of Iran. As President Bush ups the pressure on Tehran, is he planning to double his Middle East bet?

Posted by: Pat C on February 14, 2007 01:50 AM

http://www.tomdispatch.com/index.mhtml?emx=x&pid=165669

Roger Morris, Donald Rumsfeld’s Long March

The Undertaker’s Tally (Part 1)

Sharp Elbows
By Roger Morris
“…the finest Secretary of Defense this nation has ever had.”—Vice President Dick Cheney

“The past was not predictable when it started.”—Donald Rumsfeld

On a farewell flight to Baghdad in early December 2006, the departing Secretary of Defense reminisced about his start in politics more than forty years before. Aides leaned in to listen intently, but came away with no memorable revelations. It hardly mattered. As usual with this man who dominated government as no cabinet officer before him—including the power-ravenous Henry Kissinger he so despised and outdid in effect, if not celebrity—authentic history and Don Rumsfeld’s version of it bore little resemblance.

More…

Posted by: Pat C on February 14, 2007 01:52 AM

Global Warming: Interesting article. Be sure to check out the chart, which is a little over half-way down.
http://bostonreview.net/BR32.1/emanuel.html

Posted by: shylurker on February 14, 2007 03:42 AM

And have we ever looked at HIS chart??
He appears to beat Negroponte by a mile!
QOP

Posted by: on February 14, 2007 03:56 AM

GWB and the United Nations are set to reveal a plan that brings several thousands Iraqi refugees to the US over the next 10 months.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/14/washington/14refugees.html?_r=2&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1171438049-FylbflSmOTt3feVBzlbCPw

Wonder if they will send them to Texas. I don't know if this is going to be a good thing for the folks from Iraq.

Posted by: Sally on February 14, 2007 07:31 AM

Well I don't know if this is going to be a good thing for the folks from Iraq., or for Americans, but since when did they plan anything that was good for anything but themselves.??????

It will give those "uppity Mexicans something to think about! ( sarcasm.)
And.....aren't we fighting them over there so we won't have to fight them here?

Posted by: on February 14, 2007 11:31 AM

to Sally, Morgana, Nancy, and all the other poets here: think you'll be interested in the article "Don't Mess with the Poets" over at Firedoglake. Scroll down. It is about the third article down.

http://www.firedoglake.com

Posted by: Barbara on February 14, 2007 01:51 PM

13,000 employees being layed off from Daimler Chrysler.

Posted by: Pat C on February 14, 2007 03:52 PM


New Moon in Aquarius
Saturday, February 17, 2007
8:14am PST
28° 37'

This is the New Moon for radical change. Aquarius is often thought of as visionary: an energy that looks beyond the norm, questions accepted truths, boldly claims originality, flies in the face of reason; and flatly refuses to blindly follow the dictates of others. And oh, if you are like me, (always ready to dive deeply into Aquarian and Piscean energy) you will be very happy on this New Moon with its Chiron/Sun/Moon/Neptune conjunction in utopian Aquarius, and a Mercury/Uranus/North Node/Venus conjunction in transcendent Pisces. A mind-blowing line-up such as this is not to be wasted; even with a dour retrograde Saturn in Leo and stilted Mars in Capricorn telling us otherwise. If there was ever was a time to transcend old thinking (Pisces) and awaken into new ideas (Aquarius) this is it.

Aquarius rules "WHY NOT?" and this is where your attitude needs to be when you engage in ritual for this New Moon. Any hesitance, doubt, or second-guessing should be forsworn in favor of a radical openness to revelation. This is the Eve of the Chinese New Year; the Year of the Boar. Though Chinese astrology views a boar year as one full of prosperity and opportunity, it comes with a caution against hesitation, which can impede jumping on unexpected opportunities. So on this night you will get to practice becoming comfortable with the Aquarian way of breaking out and jumping in feet first, head later.

http://www.astrowisdom.com/thisnewmoon.htm

Posted by: wv on February 14, 2007 04:12 PM

Barbara thanks for the link and that is so true, "beware the poets." I think it was the poets who created the climate for activism against the Vietnam war and I think it will be the poets this time.

Roses are Red
Violets are Blue
Because of your postings
The Truth keeps coming through.

Happy Valentine's Day to you all.

Posted by: Sally on February 14, 2007 04:28 PM

OK, I'd like to add to the often quoted definition of what insanity is.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different outcome, and not being even remotely aware that everyone else on the planet sees right through you.

The neocons are blithely repeating all the talking points they did earlier with Iraq (which have all been debunked thoroughly) and assuming we, the public, don't see what they are doing. Most of us weren't fooled the first time either.

Posted by: lunaoscura on February 14, 2007 04:48 PM

Happy Valintine Day

http://www.bigfoto.com/sites/galery/flowers2/flow040.jpg

Posted by: Pat C on February 14, 2007 05:19 PM

"Wonder if they will send them to Texas. I don't know if this is going to be a good thing for the folks from Iraq."

They would fit in quite nicely here in Texas. We already have one of the highest populations of ME'rs in the country so a few more won't matter.

My feeling is they will send them all to Colorado, Ohio or Florida to brainwash them into being xian religous fanatics instead of just ordinary Muslims.

:)))

Posted by: Cybear on February 14, 2007 07:03 PM

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/02/12/1540208

EXCLUSIVE: Imprisoned Journalist Josh Wolf Speaks Out From Jail After Over 170 Days Behind Bars

................

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=1188

CNN's Nuke Plant Photos Identical for Both Iran and N. Korea

Posted by: Pat C on February 14, 2007 07:04 PM

Great news articles here including the surprising "Ulster on the Euphrates: The Anglo-American Dirty War in Iraq"
http://www.informationliberation.com/

Posted by: Jill G on February 14, 2007 10:48 PM

Cybear, my bet is New Orleans. Bushco is renovating it for them.

Posted by: Morgana on February 14, 2007 11:53 PM

Hey now, Cybear. We're increasingly BLUE in Ohio!

Send them here, and we'll teach them how to be good Progressives. ;-)

Posted by: NEOBuckeye on February 15, 2007 12:00 AM

(teehee) buzzflash: "Mitt Romney, Come On Down, You're the Next Contestant on the 'Let's Run for President' Show!!

Posted by: JoannaOregon on February 15, 2007 01:59 AM

Another one for your list (Repugs Behaving Badly), JudiGem:
http://www.local6.com/news/11013654/detail.html

Posted by: shylurker on February 15, 2007 02:33 AM

New Orleans....hmmmm....I think your on to something Morgana!

Neo, we're going Blue here as well. I am proud to say that Fort Bend County where I reside is now a deep dark shade of Blue. That includes Sugar Land!!! But seriously, Ohio, Progressive??? Isn't that an oxymoron? ;0))

Posted by: Cybear on February 15, 2007 02:36 AM

What struck me most about Obama is that he seems to be very intuitive, and I think this quality can make up for his lack of experience that so many people keep using as an excuse for him not being qualified to be President. He also seems to operate on a higher plane than ordinary mortals, and appears to be destined for whatever role he is to play on the earth - in other words, he is a man with a mission. I also find him refreshing, and full of positive energy, and these two qualities alone, may be enough to rocket him to the top.

Sorry, but I do not share the opinion of those who think that Al Gore would make a terrific President. I feel that he let down the Democratic Party when he bowed out of the fight too early in 2000, and handed the reins over to Bush, so now it's like too little too late. I think this time around we need a fresh face.

Posted by: Crystal on February 15, 2007 02:59 AM

If you haven't been able to follow the Libby trial, this article by Blumenthal tells you about all you need to know about it:
http://www.salon.com/opinion/blumenthal/2007/02/15/libby_trial/

(You'll have to watch a few-second "commercial" to enter Salon; it's worth it.)

Posted by: shylurker on February 15, 2007 03:12 AM

This is cool news!!

McCain Targeted By Recall Drive Over Iraq War Stance
By: Nicole Belle @ 2:05 PM - PST
Technically, it's a long shot, but symbolically, it's a beautiful thing. Take that, Saint McCain.

AZCentral.com:

A new recall drive targets Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., a top contender for the 2008 GOP presidential nomination.

Organizers oppose McCain's continued support of the unpopular Iraq war and consider him complicit in what they perceive as the erosion of American civil liberties associated with the war on terror.

"For the most part, he's been all right, but he's supposed to be representing Arizona, and right now he seems to be just representing himself," said William Crum, treasurer of Americans for Integrity and Justice, the Glendale-based recall committee. "He's got tunnel-vision for the presidency."

The recall application filed Tuesday with the Arizona Secretary of State's Office accuses McCain of "shirking his duties as a senator from the great state of Arizona" and of having "acquiesced in his role as a member of the legislative branch to strongly check the power of the chief executive, who has for all intents and purposes become a king."

[..]The recall group faces long odds. It must collect 381,696 valid petition signatures by June 13 to force a statewide vote. That is 25 percent of all votes cast in the 2004 Senate election. Although McCain is a federal officeholder not bound by the Arizona Constitution's recall provisions, he has signed a voluntary pledge on file with the Secretary of State's Office agreeing to resign immediately if defeated in a recall election.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/02/14/mccain-targeted-by-recall-drive-over-iraq-war-stance/

Posted by: Shadowhawk on February 15, 2007 03:19 AM

On Aug 4, 2007 Saturn, transiting through the US 2nd hse, and restructuring values as it goes, will conj US natal Pluto: The conj/birth of Saturn doing Pluto's transformation of American values, destroying old orders and confining energies to focus them on rebirth. Evolution is being called for. Simply re-ordering old structures will be like corking a volcano. At this same time US natal Pluto will be trined by transiting Pluto. I feel if we are busy transforming this will have a mollifying effect. However, there is a total lunar eclipse August 28th, which may activate the US Sun/Sat/Chiron T-Square further wounding our public image. It would normally be relieved by the US seeing itself and acting as a leader. I believe Sally told us this would come in 2012. On Sept 7th a solar eclipse will conj the US natal Pluto. (more fun) On Aug 6, 2007 the world will gain the boon of Saturn trine Pluto, an aspect of helpful transformative energies. Last, about one year after Saturn conjs Pluto it will conj the US moon. Hmmm, Canada is looking better all the time. Any single middle aged female astrologers out there, send picture of cruising sailboat.......Happy trails, Timmy J...PS: Early August---Early Sept looks like a rough go for the US and I would like to see a professional astrologer write an article on it. I don't know what else it might mean, but the housing market continues to degrade and so a banking crises could be in the offing......"All is poetry. Everything is a metaphor." author unknown by me....TJ

Posted by: Timmy J on February 15, 2007 03:28 AM

You can't make this stuff up? You don't even need to try. BushCo has done it for you:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3114198

Posted by: shylurker on February 15, 2007 03:39 AM

The Scooter Libby defense concluded their arguments today, can anyone comment on the astrological effect of the new Mercury retrograde on their arguments, and possibly the trial outcome. Interesting on how the defense attorneys suddenly decided to not have Libby or Cheney testify after all. It really angered the judge who then refused to allow a number of classiifed docs into the defense's exhibits. I wonder if the defense was actually paying attention to astrology and once the prosecution side took long enough to slide the defense into the retrograde, it cause the defense to back away fearing miscommunication and disaster if Libby testified.
Comments anyone?
Swamp

Posted by: Swamp on February 15, 2007 05:01 AM

Cancer cure> http://www.depmed.ualberta.ca/dca/

Posted by: Timmy J on February 15, 2007 05:46 AM

Timmy J. what US chart are you using? Because the US chart we use is the 07/04/1776 5:13pm, with Pluto in Capricorn in the 2nd house. Transiting Saturn is now in Leo in the 9th house of the US Chart in a sextile to the US Natal Saturn, with transiting Uranus forming a yod. It's a strong point of destiny for the US and points to a shift in consciousness, a sudden shift. If you are using a different chart I'm not sure which one it would be because to create a conjunction to the US Pluto from Transiting Saturn one would have to go back to very early 1700's when Pluto was in Leo, or to the 1940's when Pluto went into Leo again. Neither of those dates relate to the US natal chart. Help me out here, what chart are you using for the US Natal Chart?

I don't think they use Astrology for if they did they would have been more careful when they first started this thing. Their obsession with Wilson/Plame was intense and they would have accessed an astrologer for that, unless Wells used one. but if he did, an Astrologer would have told them to "rest" the case on Tuesday morning when Mercury was stationary, not after it went retrograde. The retrograde motion of Mercury indicates to me a hung jury or mis-trial or plans for an appeal or knowledge of a pardon. I don't like the transiting yod when the Defense rested. Mars was sextile Venus and Saturn inconjuncts them both, with Saturn moving back to a trine to Scooter's Moon.

The one thing that has really been a big question for me is why the administration never tried to crucify Fitzgerald, they have everyone else and don't seem to be stopped by media from doing so. They have made a half hearted attempt to say "this really isn't a big deal" and they present that from time to time to the public, but they've never cried or screamed "foul" toward Fitzgerald or Judge Walton even though they seem to be on the attack of the federal judicial system. So were they given the nod to rest their case, were they stupid, do they feel beaten, or are they in the process of cutting a deal? If there are decisions made during this Mercury Retrograde, something will have to be re-done or end up being re-done.

Posted by: Sally on February 15, 2007 07:41 AM

Cybear, Ohio wasn't always as bad as it appeared to the world in 2004. We used to have a motto here "The Heart of It All". Once upon a time, it truly was a thriving state, supportive of intelligence and intelligent/scientific causes and a fairly decent place to live and work, relative of course to other states and regions during the same era.

A lot of our recent problems originate from the destruction of local industry, and with it, the dramatic weakening of unions and labor groups that formed the backbone of the Ohio Democratic Party. At the same time, we've seen the rise of the "money men" -- business fat-cats, and right-wing religious fanatics who, through their financial backing and support of the GOP have warped politics into their favor, at the expense of the common good.

But for reasons relating to what has taken place on the national level, Ohioans are ready to re-claim their state and move forward into the future.

Posted by: NEOBuckeye on February 15, 2007 08:55 AM

Oops, he said red faced with embarrassment. I had pulled up USA in draconic instead of tropical. As punishment I shall read the newspaper astrology.

Posted by: Timmy J on February 15, 2007 10:00 AM

http://salon.com/news/feature/2007/02/15/israel_despair/

Israel's surge of despair

Top Israeli officials admit last summer's war against Hezbollah was a failure -- and denounce President Bush's actions in the Middle East.

Hezbollah operatives plant explosives along the disputed border area between Lebanon and Israel. The Israeli military moves in and destroys them. Israeli and Lebanese forces engage in sporadic gun battles.

It may sound like the prelude to the war waged last summer between the Israeli military and Hezbollah, but it happened just last week. Tensions are running high along the Israel-Lebanon border again, and political and intelligence analysts are predicting another major flare-up of hostilities this spring or summer, or perhaps even sooner. According to Israeli military intelligence, Hezbollah remains firmly rooted in Lebanon and has successfully rearmed -- the Iranian-backed Shiite militia now has even more missiles than it had before last summer's war. To many Israelis, it seems as if that war, and the destruction it brought, were all for nothing.

For many, it is a thoroughly depressing realization. And this sense of depression is not only permeating the Israeli public. A series of recent interviews with current and former Israeli government officials revealed a level of pessimism across the Israeli government that is unprecedented in recent decades. Several senior officials acknowledged unequivocally that Israel lost the war against Hezbollah, and confirmed that this is a widely held view inside the Israeli government -- despite many public pronouncements to the contrary by Israeli leaders.

More...

Posted by: Pat C on February 15, 2007 01:21 PM


From Rob at OpEdNews..

John Edwards two bloggers have been attacked as anti Catholic by a rabid, right wing, toxic, extremist Catholic League spokesman Bill Donohue and the right wing blogger echo chamber-- the same types who went after Dan Rather.

Salon reports that Edwards fired the bloggers. My article recaps what some of the leading bloggers say about this. My take-- how he handles the heat from the right reflects how he'll handle heat from right wingers in congress, the military and the corporate world. If Salon's report that he fired them is accurate, Edwards just lost the blogospher and perhaps the candidacy.

Now, Donohue and his right wingnut friends are calling the bloggers pottymouths. That's a bit hypocritical w! hen we recall what Dick Cheney told Patrick Leahy to do to himself.

Still, it makes me realize, with my potty mouth, and my attacks on right wing fundamentalist religious extremists, it is unlikely I'll be getting a job any time soon working for any candidate. I'll have to keep working for the big bucks at OpEdNews.

Posted by: wv on February 15, 2007 02:41 PM


Here's the link to the above story...

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_rob_kall_070207_edwards_campaign_blo.htm

Posted by: wv on February 15, 2007 02:47 PM

So. For all of anglo-israel's aggressiveness & "nuke" waving, they have ended up (thus far) with nothing but neighborly hatred & animosity. If they'd have "won," the results would've been the same. And acting as "beachhead" for anglo-USia has not exactly panned out either. Such a tiny entity in such a sea of BIIIIGGGG "other" entities... not a fertile premise for egoic bullyism in a little tiny space imo. The song goes "When will they ever learn..." The answer apparently is "they don't."

Thanks for that piece, PatC

Posted by: JoannaOregon on February 15, 2007 02:54 PM

Sorry, but I do not share the opinion of those who think that Al Gore would make a terrific President. I feel that he let down the Democratic Party when he bowed out of the fight too early in 2000, and handed the reins over to Bush, so now it's like too little too late. I think this time around we need a fresh face.

Crystal,

I disagree. I think this statement would apply more to Kerry than Gore. Gore didn't hand over the reins to Bush. The supreme court did, the media did and the haves and the have mores did.

We need a leader and somebody the world respects. We need somebody that is a true civil servant. We need somebody to start the healing from this nightmare. A new fresh face isn't going to cut.

Gore is in a class all by himself.

Posted by: abilene on February 15, 2007 03:01 PM

When you get tired of newspaper astrology Timmy J. do return, no hope of getting Draconic astrology in the Newspaper

Posted by: Sally on February 15, 2007 03:08 PM

I am sure Israel's "make-up" appears in it's astrological chart but the astrologers say that Palestine has the same chart. What people may not realize is that Jews have such deep ties to Jerusalem and that part of the world, and so needed a shelter from anti-semitism after WWII and the pogroms of the 19th and early 20th centuries, that there was no question where the home land would be. Yes, people were displaced but the Arabs were given an equal amount of land. Jews have been displaced before and settled where they landed. Israel IS a small country living in an area where they were surely not wanted. What does a little guy do when outnumbered and threatened? Occasionally muscle up and fight back, and act tough and even over-do it at times. There was much the Arabs could have done to help the Palestianians but instead chose an ongoing war against Israel. Same thing for Lebanon. Israel withdrew from Lebanon years ago yet Iran (and whomever else) is still arming Hezbollah. It cannot be that Israel has always been the bad guy. In 1999 or 2000 Began offered the branch of peace. I did not see it accepted. All I see are people who do not want Israel there, resent them more than ever because they are powerful, and continue to provoke Israel in an attempt to get Israel to strike back and look like an ogre. Israel has always said that if they had partners in peace they would work with them. They did not, so they tired of trying and decided to get really tough. If Israel and the Arab countries do have a nuclear war, then it is not solely Israel's fault. Students of history know that Israel did try hard to make peace, no matter what their mistakes.

Posted by: Sharon on February 15, 2007 03:55 PM

Has anybody else noticed that national consciousness is a wee bit easier medium in which to "breathe" since before the elections almost the ONLY topics of politicians/media were "gay marriage" & border patrolling for "illegal aliens?" (...aside from the Iraq assault) I mean talk about suffocation!!

Posted by: JoannaOregon on February 15, 2007 04:59 PM


Will Gore get in?

From the New York Observer: "According to one influential Democratic insider, close associates of the former vice president have communicated to him and other prominent fund-raisers who are uncommitted to the other '08 candidates that Mr. Gore will consider entering the race -- if an opening presents itself -- in September."

-- Tim Grieve


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Posted by: wv on February 15, 2007 05:06 PM


Here's the full story for the above article...

http://www.observer.com/printpage.asp?iid=14162&ic=Wise+Guys

Posted by: wv on February 15, 2007 05:15 PM


It Takes a Chill

By: Jason Horowitz
Date: 2/19/2007
Page: 1


Hillary Clinton dropped her shoulders and whimpered.

She was reacting, with comic theatricality, after a guest at a fund-raiser on Friday night asked her about the perception in the media that she was cold and calculating.

“I am aware of the storyline, and I very much am conscious of how I have to work to make it clear to people who I really am,” said Mrs. Clinton as she walked around a “Hillary for President” stage in the midtown Cipriani ballroom. “That doesn’t mean everybody is going to like me or vote for me, but at least it gives me a better chance to stand on my own bearings.”

She was speaking at an event packed with ticket-holding supporters and almost entirely free of reporters.

Mrs. Clinton, the front-runner in the race to win Democratic Presidential nomination, controls her statements and image more than perhaps any candidate that has come before her.

http://www.observer.com/printpage.asp?iid=14188&ic=News+Story+1

Posted by: wv on February 15, 2007 05:36 PM

GREAT NEWS!!

http://www.centerforfoodsafety.org/Alfalfa_DecisionPR2_14_07.cfm

FEDERAL COURT FINDS USDA ERRED IN APPROVING GENETICALLY ENGINEERED ALFALFA WITHOUT FULL ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE February 14, 2007

Contact: Will Rostov, Center for Food Safety, 415-826-2770 (415) 307-2154 (cell); Joseph Mendelson, Center for Food Safety (202) 547-9359 (703) 244-1724 (cell) (Note: Individual farmers and representatives of organizations who are plaintiffs in the lawsuit are available for comment).

Precedent-setting Decision May Block Planting, Sales of Monsanto Alfalfa

Washington, DC (February 14, 2007) - In a decision handed down yesterday, a Federal Court has ruled, for the first time ever, that the U.S. Department of Agriculture failed to abide by federal environmental laws when it approved a genetically engineered crop without conducting a full Environment Impact Statement (EIS).

More....

Minding the Small Things
http://www.fragmentsfromfloyd.com/fragments/2006/08/minding_the_small_things.html

Posted by: Pat C on February 15, 2007 05:37 PM

MSNBC renews Keith Olbermann for four years!

http://www.columbusdispatch.com/news-story.php?story=246963

Associated Press
Thursday, February 15, 2007 11:42 AM

NEW YORK (AP) — Keith Olbermann will continue to be a thorn in Bill O'Reilly's side for at least four more years.

NBC News announced Thursday it had agreed to a “second term” with the MSNBC “Countdown” host, whose contract was due to expire next month. The extension will take him into 2011.

Besides feuding with Fox News Channel's O'Reilly, Olbermann has become a liberal hero. He has seen his ratings increase since launching a series of anti-President Bush commentaries late last summer.

His prime-time program averaged 715,000 viewers in January, according to Nielsen Media Research. While his audience is often less than a third of O'Reilly's in the same time slot, Olbermann's viewership is up 85 percent over January 2006.

Olbermann will also contribute occasional essays to “NBC Nightly News” and there will be two prime-time “Countdown” specials a year on NBC, a division of NBC Universal, said NBC News President Steve Capus.

“I've been overwhelmed by the support for this newscast, both inside NBC, and among our remarkable viewers,” Olbermann said.

Posted by: NEOBuckeye on February 15, 2007 05:39 PM

http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2007/02/15/breakdown_at_the_iraq_lie_factory.php

Breakdown At The Iraq Lie Factory

Bush is discovering that boldly lying about Iran isn't enough. He needs his chorus of liars behind him ... and they're gone.

Posted by: Pat C on February 15, 2007 05:46 PM

http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2007/02/15/real_democracy_or_dystopia.php

Our system can shift from concentrated power to grassroots governance.

Posted by: Pat C on February 15, 2007 05:47 PM

Even the Swiss are against our government's behavior! Now that's saying something!

Swiss Approves Probe of CIA Flights
By: Nicole Belle on Thursday, February 15th, 2007 at 5:02 AM - PST
Yahoo News: (h/t E)

Switzerland on Wednesday followed Italy and Germany in raising the threat of criminal prosecution of CIA operatives involved in anti-terrorism operations in Europe.

The Swiss Cabinet authorized the start of criminal proceedings against those responsible for the abduction in Italy of an Egyptian Muslim preacher allegedly taken on CIA flights through Swiss airspace.

Switzerland, which has cooperated closely in U.S. investigations and attempts to shut down terrorists' funding networks, has generally avoided open disputes with the U.S. government. But the wording of the seven-member Cabinet's statement was sharp.

"In the view of the Federal Council, the use of Swiss airspace for an abduction cannot be tolerated," the statement said. "There is evidence that basic norms of international law were violated."

It breaks my heart that they're talking about our country that way. In other news to be ashamed of, NPR discusses the inclusion of the US in UNICEF's list of Worst Countries for Kids. Truly, I think decades from now, historians are going to ask what was wrong with all of us for allowing this country to fall so spectacularly on a global level.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/02/15/swiss-approves-probe-of-cia-flights/

Posted by: Shadowhawk on February 15, 2007 05:54 PM

Oh how funny... http://fawny.org/spy/spy-illos/SPY1993-02.cover.jpg

Posted by: JoannaOregon on February 15, 2007 06:04 PM

Well... she DOES have sun/venus in scorpio! ;O)

(such a waste of wonderful talent & potential...)

Posted by: JoannaOregon on February 15, 2007 06:09 PM

Oh dear.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0215/p99s01-duts.html?s=mesdu

A Saudi Arabian terrorist group with ties to Al Qaeda has called for Muslims around the world to attack oil installations – including those in Canada, Venezuela, and Mexico – in order to stop the flow of oil to the United States.

Posted by: Pat C on February 15, 2007 06:50 PM

Congressman Bill Pascrell, a Democrat from New Jersey just made a speech on the floor of the House on the Resolution. He was outstanding! I called his office to see if the speech would be put up on his site, but many of his words were off the cuff, so I'll have to wait to get it off of the Congressional Record.

Find it if you can and post it, send it out, and use some of those priceless phrases.

............

Carl Bernstein, whose investigation into and coverage of Nixon gives him a pretty good base line, says Bush's lies and distortions are unprecedented:

Bush administration's disinformation, misinformation 'something I have never witnessed before on this scale'
Veteran reporter Carl Bernstein says the lack of truth and candor from the Bush administration is unprecedented in his experience.

Comparing the Nixon administration's press relations to those of Bush, Bernstein says, "Nixon's relationship to the press was consistent with his relationship to many institutions and people. He saw himself as a victim. We now understand the psyche of Richard Nixon, that his was a self-destructive act and presidency.

"The Bush administration," Bernstein continues, "is a far different matter in which disinformation, misinformation and unwillingness to tell the truth -- a willingness to lie both in the Oval Office, in the Office of the Secretary of Defense, in the office of the vice president, the vice president himself -- is something that I have never witnessed before on this scale."

Bernstein contrasted Nixon's covering up of illegal activities tied to his re-election campaign with the Bush White House's "unwillingness to be truthful, both contextually and in terms of basic facts that ought to be of great concern to people of all ideologies.

"This president has a record of dishonesty and obfuscation that is Nixonian in character in its willingness to manipulate the press, to manipulate the truth," he adds. "We have gone to war on the basis of misinformation, disinformation and knowing lies from top to bottom."

Bernstein blasts what he describes as "the willingness of the president and the vice president and the people around them to try to undermine people who have effectively opposed them by telling the truth."

snip

"That's the real story, and that's the story that [the press] should have been writing," he says.

More

.........

http://rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.yahoo.com%2Fs%2Fap%2F20070215%2Fap_on_go_co%2Fus_iraq
Murtha seeks to restrain action in Iran

Posted by: Pat C on February 15, 2007 08:25 PM

If USians aren't already, they'll be known for decades... mebbe centuries... as the United States of Liars to the rest of the world. Great for bidness, yes? WhaddaGreat Legacy!

Posted by: JoannaOregon on February 15, 2007 09:14 PM

You'll let us know the when/where the speech from Rep Bill Pascrell is posted, yes?

Posted by: JoannaOregon on February 15, 2007 09:17 PM

Sure will Joanna.

.........

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/13519157/the_low_post_between_barack_and_a_hard_place

Obama Is the Best BS Artist Since Bill Clinton
By Matt Taibbi, RollingStone.com

Posted by: Pat C on February 15, 2007 09:35 PM

Sally and Everyone:

I can't take the time to read all the posts eventhough I would love to very much. If others have already shared this please forgive.

Sally, want to mention if you haven't heard that Al Gore has been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize for his work on global warning. Also there is and has been a huge effort to get him drafted for 2008. I personally would love to see him run but acknowledge that he told "Living On Earth" two weeks ago that "I have lost my love affair with politics and am happy in my current work and affairs." I was disappointed to hear this but a draft site mentioned yesterday that close associates say he will run if "an opening presents itself."

http://www.draftgore.com

Think of all the power he has amassed since his so called defeat in 2000. Power that he can use to his advantage if he wants to. People are clamering to him now! People are listening to him. He really doesn't have to go to the people (appeal to them).....the people are going to him. I will sign up to draft him as soon as I get a chance.

Posted by: Beverly on February 15, 2007 10:10 PM

This lady is upset and the why is a bit scary.

Killers in the Classroom

By Dr. June Scorza Terpstra

02/15/07 "ICH " -- -- During a heated debate in a class I teach on social justice, several US Marines who had done tours in Iraq told me that they had "sacrificed" by “serving” in Iraq so that I could enjoy the freedom to teach in the USA. Parroting their master’s slogan about “fighting over there so we don’t have to fight over here”, these students proudly proclaimed that they terrorized and killed defenseless Iraqis. They intimated that their Arab victims are nothing more to them than collateral damage, incidental to their receipt of some money and an education.

A room full of students listened as a US Marine told of the invasion of Baghdad and Falluja and how he killed innocent Iraqis at a check point. He called them “collateral damage” and said he had followed the “rules”. A Muslim-American student in front of him said “I could slap you but then you would kill me”. A young female Muslim student gasped “I am a freshman; I never thought to hear of this in a class. I feel sick, like I will pass out.”

more

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17074.htm

Posted by: Shadowhawk on February 15, 2007 10:15 PM

It's the very logical extension of yang/male energy running in frenzied amok with nothing to modify or stop it. So, next, assuming survival... we might collectively experience the rubber band that can stretch no more & will now snap in some other direction. Mebbe. I extend again the end part of astrologer/philosopher Richard Tarnas' book "The Passion of the Western Mind: Understanding the Ideas that Have Shaped Our World View" subsection: "Bringing It All Back Home" http://www.well.com/user/davidu/tarnas.html

Posted by: JoannaOregon on February 16, 2007 12:42 AM



Comment
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Regardless of Cameron and Obama, leadership is still a pretty closed field
The US and UK could elect premiers who have experienced marijuana, menstruation or racism - but it's a long shot

Mark Lawson
Friday February 16, 2007

Guardian

If things go the way the Cameron and Obama households are hoping, then, in around 2009, a US-UK summit will take place between the first black president and the first prime minister known to have smoked pot. Of course, this may not happen. It's possible that the Washington end of the negotiations would be handled by the nation's first woman leader (Hillary Clinton), first Mormon (Mitt Romney) or first double divorcee (Rudy Giuliani).
The moral of these fantasies is that definitions of electability seem to be changing. At the start of any campaign, the team sit down and calculate the candidate's "negatives" (there's a fine West Wing episode in which Josh writes down the pros and cons on Santos). But the electoral cycles beginning in Britain and America tantalisingly feature serious contenders who represent races, religions, domestic arrangements or student ingestion that would until recently have been considered insurmountable obstacles to office.

This is an overdue development. Many politicians and political commentators hold the reassuring view that British and American electorates have a record of sensible decisions. Leaving aside personal ideology and looking at the long sweep of history, some on the left would accept that Labour was not fit to govern in the 80s, while rightwingers might agree that Bob Dole and William Hague were not plausible national leaders when they sought the job.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,,329717636-103677,00.html

Posted by: wv on February 16, 2007 02:44 AM

I still say that two years is much too early to be all that concerned about picking the next president. Regardless as to who the frontrunners are now, next year there might be an entirely different group.

There is so much that can happen in a short time. Witness, for instance, Senator John McCain's fall from grace. At one point, he was thought to be the shoo-in candidate for the GOP. Now, in a real turn, Arizonans are working to recall him for his support of Bush's war on Iraq. Who can say that Hillary Clinton, Barak Obama, Rudy Giuliani or any of the current frontrunners will be able to hold their position from this far out until the 2008 primaries?

Put in another light, I recall there was another Clinton who came from out of nowhere in 1992 and cut the "reign" of George H. W. Bush Sr. short. I would have to look and see if the astrology suggested it, but even so, I don't know how many people two years before would have forseen Bill's rise to office.

At any rate, we have a sitting president we should be seriously working to remove from office. A lot of good it will do to pick the next president now when there might not even be much of a country left by 2009 to preside over! At the very least, I'd love to see one of the current frontrunners come out hard and demand Bush's resignation and/or impeachment for War Crimes and Crimes Against Peace.

Just a personal rant, for whatever it might be worth.

Posted by: NEOBuckeye on February 16, 2007 05:42 AM

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/2/15/144955/943

Time to end C-SPAN's monopoly

Pelosi began a blog, The Gavel, which features a great deal of YouTube clips of chamber proceedings.

Crazy Republicans, hating the fact that more people can use these clips to get a look at what's happening in Congress, are crying foul. This press release was blasted to the media a short while ago:

More...

If you click on The Gavel and scroll down to Rep Pascrell, you can hear and see his speech. "Our military has been used, abused, refused, and accused.".

Posted by: Pat C on February 16, 2007 06:00 AM

Good link PatC and Neo I couldn't agree more. My constand refrain on candidates is "they have to get from here to there." And "here to there" is quite the gauntlet for many of them.

Thank you Beverly, I did hear about his nomination for the Peace Prize, it won't be announced until mid-October but looking at his chart he has a good chance of getting that award. I would say 2007 is a very good year for Al Gore. I think many people have a hope that he would run but I sure wouldn't blame him if he didn't, we will see. Nonetheless, he's had a very good year and he deserves that.

Posted by: Sally on February 16, 2007 06:32 AM

Georgie plans to build a military base in yet another country - way too close to home for my liking!! Yes, John Howard is another lapdog.

US To Build Military Base In Australia
16/02/2007Reuters The United States is to build a new military satellite communications base in Australia, the government said, after three years of secret negotiations between the two allies.

http://xtramsn.co.nz/news/0,,11965-6957999,00.html

Posted by: kiwijeanie on February 16, 2007 08:21 AM

I think we should refuse to vote for ANY CANDIDATE that spends an obscene amount of money on a campaign! In a society that considers children and old people excess baggage, it is immoral to go that route.
How about if Hillery announced that instead of running that gold plated campaign, she was going to donate it to worthy causes, ( and oversee it to make sure it made a difference)
And Buckeye, Bill might have come from nowhere, but he surte DIDN'T cut the reign of B*** Sr. short enough, and now seems to be enabling him!
QOP

Posted by: on February 16, 2007 12:52 PM

From Walcott:

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/blogs/wolcott

Preaching to the Fermented

Tom Watson administers a well-deserved thwacking to my least favorite columnist in the New York Daily News, Michael Goodwin. Now that Zev Chafets has vacated the paper and A. M. Rosenthal has departed the planet, Goodwin, never the victim of an original thought, is the News's foremost purveyor of the painfully obvious and invariably incorrect. Column after column, he churns out consensus opinion at its most pernicious, cobwebbed, creaky, and self-satisfied. Sexism aside (though sexism has etched a reactionary smirk into his every banality about the Mommy Party and its mommy dearest, Hillary Clinton), it is particularly galling for Goodwin to chide Hillary for voicing "tired mush" vis a vis American involvement in Iraq. For years Goodwin, like the Daily News's editorial page, stood stalwart behind George Bush and mocked liberals and Democrats for being defeatist, myopic about the threat of Terrorism, politically emasculated; he ladled out his own mushy words of support as the bad news accumulated; then when the failure in Iraq became so unignorable that Goodwin himself slowly, grudingly gravitated to the point of view some of us had all along, he couldn't lay his Liebermanism aside, no, he saw fit to demand that everyone draw a shining arrow indicating which direction the U.S. should take to extricate itself from the mire. Just so he could find it insufficient. For no matter what the Democrats do, it's either too little or too much, too early or too late, too blatantly insincere or too dangerously naive. Watson: "Within the course of half a year, Goodwin lambasts the Democrats for being weak on the war--'Democratic Party leaders want to pretend we can declare peace and everything will be fine'--and smacks Senator Clinton for being too hawkish!"
I want to take up another point in the piece as someone who's read the NY Daily News since I first arrived in the city, buying the "Night Owl" edition at the newsstand in front of the former Belmore Cafeteria (made famous in Taxi Driver), to wit, this passage:

The News suffers from an acute identity problem, a true personality crisis. The Archie Bunker base in New York has either died or moved away and the real working-class New Yorker is likely to be black or Hispanic or Asian and quite often, born someplace else. The News is out of touch with this growing, churning middle class economic powerhouse--a look at its opinion pages is a window into just how clueless the paper is. The News doesn't get this new middle class, and its lead opinion voice--Pulitzer winner Michael Goodwin--is cartoonishly out of kilter, pitching his faux dese, dems, and dose "common man" pablum to mere ghosts in Brooklyn, Queens, and the Bronx.

More...

Posted by: Pat C on February 16, 2007 02:04 PM

Why haven't they shut Fitz down? According to this, Cap'n Sally, they outfoxed themselves:
http://www.firedoglake.com/category/cia-leak-case/

Hahahahahahaha.

Posted by: shylurker on February 16, 2007 02:36 PM

Hope there'll be a major investigation on this little matter.
http://www.rawstory.com//news/2007/Cheney_soninlaw_used_revolving_door_to_0216.html

Posted by: shylurker on February 16, 2007 02:42 PM

I have asked myself that question a million times Shy. I cannot imagine why they haven't shut Fitzgerald down but I have a feeling we will find out over the next 18 months. But I've wondered if it had to do with Bush not wanting to look like Nixon, did the trial go further than they thought it would, were they concerned about Fitzgerald or Walton talking if they did fire him? I just don't know but it is really curious.

Posted by: Sally on February 16, 2007 03:22 PM

I'm back friends! A week in the hospital (3 days in ICU) when ruler of my 6th and overall ruler of my chart, Mercury, got a square whack from Uranus in my 12th. Shocking revelation of heart fibs/flutters. Scared me really scared me. Shocking just like Uranus. thank god for all the American medical drugs i have disdained- without them I would likely die in my sixties like my grandmother did.So I missed you all-no laptops allowed no cell phones either-mess with the electronic things counting every heart beat,every pulse,every change in blood press. Birthdata: 5/25/1947 2:59 AM Long Beach, California Will take me a few days to catch up but for now i just want to throw in my intuition about global warming-I think that both natural cycles and human reckless behavior are involved. No one is innocent here and no one is to blame in the sense that even the villians are just getting us our petrol or elctricity that we crave-I was lost without my connection to all of you and Starlight News and I came home and sat right down to start to catch up with you. I know that there is a deep connection with the dark side getting the technology and power to my house.

Posted by: clymela on February 16, 2007 03:24 PM

Have a little fun....

http://www.paulsadowski.com/birthday.asp

Posted by: wv on February 16, 2007 03:27 PM

Sorry Shy, I answered before I read the Firedoglake article, my mistake. They just may have been thinking they were too smart by half and got themselves caught. One thing for sure Fitzgerald left tons of evidence for Congress if they would want to pursue all they have to do is follow the golden drops Fitz and Walton dropped

Posted by: Sally on February 16, 2007 03:34 PM

Welcome back, clymela!! Blessed be on yerself! Don't overdo on the blogs, you heah?!?!? ;O)

Posted by: JoannaOregon on February 16, 2007 03:50 PM


Year of Pig signals conflicts before new world order: soothsayers

Feb 14 11:40 PM US/Eastern



The world can expect a roller-coaster ride of conflict and unrest, natural disasters and a plunge in global stock markets once the Year of the Pig begins, Chinese soothsayers say.
As the world farewells the Year of the Dog on Sunday, believers in Chinese superstitions have been busy consulting fortune tellers, feng shui geomancers and a wealth of new books for the year's fortunes.

Chinese fortunes are based on a belief that events are dictated by the different balances in the elements that make up the earth -- gold, wood, water, fire and earth.

Feng shui expert Raymond Lo said that according to ancient Chinese belief, the Year of the Pig is symbolised by two elements -- fire sitting on top of water.

"Fire sitting on water is a symbol of conflict and skirmish, and this may bring a relatively less

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/02/14/070215043912.onjqts5b.html

Posted by: wv on February 16, 2007 04:09 PM

I gave up soothsayers for Spring Equinox last year... or mebbe it was the year before that... one of those years...

Posted by: JoannaOregon on February 16, 2007 04:29 PM

No prob, Cap'n Sally. That book by Sen. Graham is one I must read. He's one of a rare breed: an honorable man from the political scene that is FL. I suspect his book will provide considerable fodder for investigators.

Clymela, Wonderful to know you're back on track, er, back on the internet tubes and in touch with us once again. Please take great care of yourself.

Posted by: shylurker on February 16, 2007 05:16 PM

GEE,
hasn't the last 25 years been the year of the PIG?

(((((Clymela)))) Glad you are on the upswing! Yes, do take it easy on catching up! Ther's a lot going on !
QOP

Posted by: on February 16, 2007 05:26 PM


Fiore's valentine card...

http://www.sfgate.com/comics/fiore/

Posted by: wv on February 16, 2007 05:52 PM

Clymia, you are the second person I know who has been hospitalized for those symptoms....my other friend, about the same age, just got out of the hospital today...same story. I've been going thru some of this since last year, August specifically. I think Uranus has been whacking me since it squared my natal Uranus (Gemini 5) and now is marching towards the Sun/Saturn conj. Unfortunately, I don't have insurance. Keep breathing deep....!

Sally...a great piece mid thread on global warming, etc. Genuine critical thinking. You think things through.

Shylurker, thanks for the link! I have another Repub behaving badly which you've probably seen...the Gov of Nevada. I think this is the tip of the iceberg....because all these US att. have been fired in some prominent repubs behaving badly zones...including Nevada!
The probe of Gibbons also has raised more questions about the impending departure of U.S. Attorney Daniel Bogden of Nevada, whose office would oversee the investigation. Bogden is among a group of seven U.S. attorneys who were abruptly fired by the Justice Department without explanation. His last day is Feb. 28.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/02/16/MNG75O5RNP1.DTL

Posted by: judiGem on February 16, 2007 06:37 PM

and oh my, this is starting to roll, Shylurker...Raw story has report on how Harriet Miers interviened in the replacement of one of these attorneys for 'no reason'...just check out Raw Story or NY Times:
http://www.rawstory.com//news/2007/NYT_Did_exBush_counsel_intervene_on_0215.html
Was President Bush's former counsel and one-time Supreme Court nominee involved in the dismissal of a United States attorney? An article in Friday's New York Times reports that sources indicate that she might have been.

Posted by: judiGem on February 16, 2007 06:40 PM

Also on Raw Story, con't...more repubs repeatedly behaving badly...

Cheney son-in-law used revolving door to stop chemical security regulations
Michael Roston
Published: Friday February 16, 2007

The son-in-law of Vice President Dick Cheney, Philip Perry, has entered and exited the Bush administration twice, and in the process helped shield the chemical industry from upgraded security measures in the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks, according to an article in the March edition of the Washington Monthly.

Philip Perry is married to Cheney's daughter Elizabeth, also a former executive branch official. An article by Art Levine in the upcoming Washington Monthly details his work in and out of the Bush administration since 2000, saying, "A flippant critic might say the father-in-law has been prosecuting a war that creates more terrorists abroad, while the son-in-law has been working to ensure they’ll have easy targets at home."

Posted by: judiGem on February 16, 2007 06:43 PM

from Barbara Hand Clow's piece on the coming events end of Feb to the Aries point:
Do you know what happens when a large herd of pigs is drowning and they panic? As they try to swim, their forelegs slash their throats and they die in a mass, drowning in bloody water.

Ultimately, that is what is going to happen to the powers that are trying to destroy the world, and remember these deaths may be emotional and mental.

hmmmm...the energy I've been getting is that the chickens are coming home to roost...her vision is much more brutal, but nonetheless apt.

Posted by: judiGem on February 16, 2007 06:57 PM

What country is the largest source of global warming pollution?
The United States. Though Americans make up just 4 percent of the world's population, we produce 25 percent of the carbon dioxide pollution from fossil-fuel burning -- by far the largest share of any country. In fact, the United States emits more carbon dioxide than China, India and Japan, combined. Clearly America ought to take a leadership role in solving the problem. And as the world's top developer of new technologies, we are well positioned to do so -- we already have the know-how.
http://www.nrdc.org/globalWarming/f101.asp

Posted by: judiGem on February 16, 2007 08:07 PM

Let USia get its OWN house in order... the audacity & ridiculousness of "leadership role" is there for everyone to see. Furthermore, it would be an excellent idea for it to watch carefully, learn about & to copy other countries/govts with excellent to good records of policy concerning the environment to economics, education to national health. Then in a few centuries or so, the World can start guiding it into its first baby steps into the privileged role of a few basic leadership assignments.

Posted by: JoannaOregon on February 16, 2007 08:54 PM

ummm... that's generally for pink supremacist USians, who tend to see the whole country as subsumed under theyselves... when they're not.

Posted by: JoannaOregon on February 16, 2007 08:56 PM

I'm glad that you are okay, clymela. Concerning the "dark side" as you put it, that brings us our energy, it doesn't at all have to be that way. Alternative energy solutions could power the entire world, whether it's solar panels lining stretches of land in the desert, wind turbines on the great plains and great lakes or even hydro-electrical solutions on our shores. Even combinations of these solutions in our homes, combined with mass-transit solutions, would do the trick in weaning ourselves away from oil, coal, and all of that other nasty non-renewable stuff.

The key is going to be breaking the status quo forces that make their livelihood from controlling oil and other dead dinosaur fuels. Unfortunately, they seem to believe that they are justified in suppressing any alternatives as well. But we will see how much longer they can get away with it. I suspect that their time of dominance and control of energy is closer to an end than what any of them are really willing to admit.

Posted by: NEOBuckeye on February 16, 2007 09:18 PM

rawstory
House passes resolution disapproving of troop increase in Iraq: 246 to 182; 17 Republicans vote 'yea'

Posted by: judigem on February 16, 2007 09:33 PM

Or if they aren't suppressing new energy methods they are trying to get a monopoly on them first!
QOP

Posted by: on February 16, 2007 10:41 PM

OOH, Another Repug malefactor!
He's out of the game now but still following party lines!
Ex-Rep. from Pa. charged with indecent exposure on Fla. beach

The Associated Press

/www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/103-02152007-1299188.html?referrer=email
QOP

Posted by: on February 16, 2007 11:07 PM

Iran - Ready to attack

American preparations for invading Iran are complete

By Dan Plesch

02/16/07 "New Statesman" -- - American military operations for a major conventional war with Iran could be implemented any day. They extend far beyond targeting suspect WMD facilities and will enable President Bush to destroy Iran's military, political and economic infrastructure overnight using conventional weapons.

British military sources told the New Statesman, on condition of anonymity, that "the US military switched its whole focus to Iran" as soon as Saddam Hussein was kicked out of Baghdad. It continued this strategy, even though it had American infantry bogged down in fighting the insurgency in Iraq.

The US army, navy, air force and marines have all prepared battle plans and spent four years building bases and training for "Operation Iranian Freedom". Admiral Fallon, the new head of US Central Command, has inherited computerised plans under the name TIRANNT (Theatre Iran Near Term).

more

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17091.htm

Posted by: Shadowhawk on February 16, 2007 11:33 PM

Shadowhawk, I feel something is coming....it will be 4 years since the begining of Iraq push....they are going to do it, aren't they....

These eclipses and lunar things....all around the same time....

Ugh.

Posted by: judiGem on February 17, 2007 12:50 AM

Judigem 0 My feeling is that the more cornered and trapped by Congress Bush feels, the more he will push to attack Iran. He's a bully on a power trip par excellence and it's going to take something truly drastic to head him off. Did you hear him today, daring Congress to do something to stop him? He's on a roll and, unfortunately, it will only take one bomb to start all hell breaking loose over there and probably here as well. Yes, I feel something wicked this way comes.

Posted by: Shadowhawk on February 17, 2007 01:19 AM

This whole sex crime thing with law-makers beginnig with Clinton is all set up I think. I no longer believe that all these people have been covering up their squirrely sexual appetites for years and years. I am suspecting some secret control being exerted in the form of character assasination.
I am going to start creating a history of sexual scandals so I can see who has been targeted.
Yes, I believe that the US is going to attaack Iran. The powers that be are using propaganda that really reminds me of Iraq. Remember the aluminium tubes in the rose garden?
NEOBauckeye-I think that the upcoming uranus/pluto square is going to thoroughly shake up the status quo. Of course there will be losses on both sides as they say.

Posted by: clymela on February 17, 2007 01:30 AM

No I didn't hear what bushter said to day....I literally cannot bring myself close to hearing him talk. It was bad in the beginning, it is worse now. But I am not surprised that he is taking this stance....brinkmanship, I think it is called....

Reading Karen Bishop's Whats Up On Planet Earth kind of helps...at least I know I'm not the only person around me who is feeling this stuff.

Posted by: judiGem on February 17, 2007 01:56 AM

* The Democratic-controlled House issued a symbolic rejection of [bushadruggie]'s decision to deploy more troops to Iraq on Fri, opening an epic confrontation between Congress & [rez] over an unpopular war that has taken the lives of more than 3,100 US troops.

The vote on the nonbinding measure was 246-182, & within minutes, Dems said their next move would be to challenge bush's request for $93 bn in new funds for the Pentagon. "The stakes in Iraq are too high to recycle proposals that have little prospect for success," said Speaker Nancy Pelosi, leader of Dems who gained power last fall in elections framed by public opposition to the war.

"The passage of this lege will signal a change in direction in Iraq that will end the fighting & bring our troops home," she vowed after the vote, in which 17 [necro]s joined 229 Dems in a wartime rebuke to [rez]. Citing recent comments by Dems, bush's [necroporn] allies said repeatedly the measure would lead to attempts to cut off funds for the troops. Outnumbered, they turned to GOP Rep Sam Johnson of TX to close their case--& the former Vietnam prisoner of war stepped to the mic as lawmakers in both parties rose to applaud his ["heroism"]. ... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070216/ap_on_go_co/us_iraq;_ylt=Ash.FFIvf2zML54f9eHRkp2yFz4D

Posted by: JoannaOregon on February 17, 2007 02:13 AM

Oh, I don't know, Clymela. Could be that they tend to be sexually repressed, so weird results in their behavior.

Posted by: shylurker on February 17, 2007 03:09 AM

If at all possible, do NOT miss these 5 minutes with Barney Frank:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/2/16/214254/296

Posted by: shylurker on February 17, 2007 03:39 AM

Clymela I cannot tell you how happy I am that you are ok and back home. You have a lovely voice that needn't be silenced, so you take care of yourself.

"The dark side." I don't think there is anything inherently dark about any energy, just in how it's used. Energy is just energy and can be used for good or for ill, that's each person's choice. Most of what we call dark energy right now has its roots in repression and a fear of self actualization, just being safe to be who you are changes dark energy into light energy. What I see as fear in our government really doesn't have anything to do with my own path unless I let their fear feed a need to fear within me. Nothing can change the true spirit of ourselves, not poverty, wealth, life or death, no one can take away or darken anything of me that I don't give them (unless of course my computer crashes)

Posted by: Sally on February 17, 2007 07:11 AM

Hello, Today on Lunar New Year in the year of the Golden Pig I got my favorite site back on line. I am in Xi'an a polluted city full of very interesting historical things and this is a very warm year I have been told with no snow and what locals call a hot year here. I think it has been cold eenough but I removed my long underwear a week ago and see no need to return to them.
I have not been able to get this site since a little before the earthquake in Taiwan. I could not get a little while ago but I have finally got the archives to open. I do not know if I can post.
I know Albert Gore, Jr. and I know his father slightly. My father knew his father in the 1940's when Albert Gore,Sr. wss our Congressman.I met Al Jr. and his sister when I was a kid. I worked on Al.Sr's last campagin and several of Al.Jr's. I attended his educational program on ethanol for the distrit when many did not know what ethanol was in 1971 or 2 I think.
My daughter did an internship in his office in D.C. where she slacked off on some her assigned reports and she made long distance calls to me to ask for more money on his office phone. My daughter was required to finish all her reports in the local office in Murfeesboro office and pay for her phone use before she could get her grade at MTSU. It was a good lesson in pesonal responsibility for her and she did make a good grade to remove her incomplete. I was proud of her ability to learn from her mistakes and repay wht she owed the US government, the people's tax money. I know how jealous she was of the party animals who worked in other offices that summer.
Al, Jr. had a great reputation for doing all the right things even as a teenager in 4-H camp and voluteering to wash the dishes. He corrected his msitakes regardless of what the other kids said.
I do not always agree with him one hundred percent but I do agree with him 99.5%. You can not find a better person or more honest man who is totally responsible for what he does and says and if he makes a mistake he will admit it and correct it.
I had been interested in astrology since I sold a computer to an astrologer in Tulsa. I tried to forcast elections as I continued to be involved in politics and had lots of success for some reason. Although I worked very hard to find the right answer to a chart for 2000 I could not. I lived I Austin then and asked for help on the charts but no one could answer my questions. I found Nancy on line and she referred me to this site. I am grateful.
The 2000 election was devasting to me. I had met all three candidates in person at one time or other and knew that Gore was the right man. I had met Bush but thought he was insignificant. I had met Ralph Nadar years before when he spoke at MTSU and I was most disappointed in him, more than Bush at that time. I had no strong opinion on Buchanon, except that he seemed a little more human than Nadar.It never occurred to me that Bush who was not awake while Governor of Texas would destroy America.
Gore is the best we can get and his environmental work is something he has been doing since he was a child because it is the right thing to do not for any other reason.
I want to thank Lynda Hill who accepted a note from me and sent it to Sally. I really respect her work on the Sabian symbols.
I managed to get few old columns to appear on google but mostly they would not open. I even went to a Spanish site to get to this once but now with Mercury retograde I have found AW in the archives. I am so happy. I have lots to read for Ihave not been here for two months.
I apoligize for taking up so much space. I am listening to fireworks for the holiday here at 7:15pm in Xi'an.
Happy near year to all.bjt

Posted by: Betsy on February 17, 2007 11:18 AM

Happy New Year Betsy!
Glad to hear from you again.......'bin wondering?
I guess we can play the 6 degrees of separation game..I was doing a mural in a pricey apartment in Georgetown and the upstairs neighbor knew the Sr, Gores. She also brought Buzz Aldren ( moon walker) down to view my work in progress.
It's good to hear your endorsement of Al Gore Jr.
I knew this in my heart when he was running!
Can we all hope that this is the year that "golden" pigs can fly?
QOP

Posted by: on February 17, 2007 11:49 AM

Clymela,great to hear your special voice again! And Betsy! What a great surprise to log on this morning and see your lovely post.

Posted by: karen on February 17, 2007 02:31 PM

"Gore rules out bid for US White House in 2008

Fri Feb 16, 2:38 PM ET

LOS ANGELES (AFP) - Former US vice president Al Gore has ruled out a bid for the White House in the 2008 elections and will carry on his fight against global climate change.

"I have no intention to run for president," Gore said in an interview conducted in Los Angeles and broadcast Thursday by the BBC.

"I can't imagine in any circumstance to run for office again," said the former Democratic vice president under then-president Bill Clinton."

http://tinyurl.com/yu4ydn

Posted by: Pat C on February 17, 2007 02:57 PM

Furious.............coukdn't get a call through to Cspan who ha on the Ast; DIR OF Health & Human Services, Dr. John Agunobi. He brushed off high fructose corn syrup as high in calories only! NO MENTION THAT IT BLOCKS THE BODY'S NATURAL INSULIN PRODUCTION!
Bottom line the GOVT is blaming US for eating too much and not exercising enough.......thast plays right into the Pluto in Virgo ones among us, gets them all charged up about running exercise programs for kids , such do gooders!
Not a word about holding any corporation accountable! ot a word about if there wasn't a class division, the Mothers would be home cooking nuitriciuos meals for the kids instead of running to her 3rd job to keep the bigmac's on the table!
No mention of the Disney movie I saw on TV casting FAT BLACK KIDS in the roles! AS devestqating as using anorexic fashion models!
SOme people who called in to Cspan, were still belching koolade fumes!
QOP

Posted by: on February 17, 2007 03:15 PM

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/02/16/glenn-greenwald-exposes-frank-gaffney/

Glenn Greenwald Exposes Frank Gaffney

On Alan Colmes' radio show last night, Glenn Greenwald debated Frank Gaffney on his disgraceful article in The Washington Times wherein he argues — after opening with with a widely-discredited & fabricated quote — that dissent during war time is treasonous. Glenn and Alan had him immediately backpeddling and it only got better from there, with Colmes even chiding Gaffney at one point for violating FCC rules and cursing at Glenn.

Posted by: Pat C on February 17, 2007 03:25 PM


A Giant Doom Magnet

February 17, 2007
Op-Ed Columnist
By MAUREEN DOWD

So I was sitting around watching “Oprah” yesterday afternoon when I realized how I could stop W. and Crazy Dick from blowing up any more stuff.

All I needed to do was Unleash my Unfathomable Magnetic Power into the Universe!
(more…)

http://donkeyod.wordpress.com/

Posted by: wv on February 17, 2007 03:45 PM

http://edstrong.blog-city.com/100000_mercenaries_in_iraq.htm

100,000 Mercenaries in Iraq

What is striking about the debate
- whether to "surge" troops to Iraq
and increase the size of the US Army
- is that roughly 100,000 bodies
are missing from the equation:
The number of American forces in Iraq
is not 140,000, but more like 240,000

Posted by: Pat C on February 17, 2007 04:18 PM

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/2/17/141032/863

Joe Lieberman wouldn't campaign for President on the Sabbath. Fine, I have absolutely no problem with that, and I respect anyone who abides by what they believe are the obligations of their religious faith.

But isn't it revealing that Joe Lieberman wouldn't campaign to win the presidency on the Sabbath, but a few minutes ago--remember, to is the Sabbath--voted against cloture in the Senate and thus against permitting a vote on a resolution repudiating the President's plan for a military surge in Baghdad, a strategy which is supported by almost nobody except a few neocon and Republican dead-enders?.

Oh well, I guess one might say that sooner or later he was going to have to vote to say he believes in George Bush and Dick Cheney's war. When it comes to affirming your support for more death and destruction and damage to our national security, if not now, when?

Posted by: Pat C on February 17, 2007 07:43 PM

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/2/17/141032/863

Joe Lieberman wouldn't campaign for President on the Sabbath. Fine, I have absolutely no problem with that, and I respect anyone who abides by what they believe are the obligations of their religious faith.

But isn't it revealing that Joe Lieberman wouldn't campaign to win the presidency on the Sabbath, but a few minutes ago--remember, to is the Sabbath--voted against cloture in the Senate and thus against permitting a vote on a resolution repudiating the President's plan for a military surge in Baghdad, a strategy which is supported by almost nobody except a few neocon and Republican dead-enders?.

Oh well, I guess one might say that sooner or later he was going to have to vote to say he believes in George Bush and Dick Cheney's war. When it comes to affirming your support for more death and destruction and damage to our national security, if not now, when?

Posted by: Pat C on February 17, 2007 07:55 PM

Uh, Clymela, just read (didn't see at Starlight)your symptoms. Heck, girl, I've had those off & on for 20 years, had a monitor, doc said it was an 'episode' that happens occasionally. Don't have health insurance. Same age/year as you, in fact my progressed sun is 1 degree past yours!
I'll notice flubs after eating the wrong thing now that I've grown senstive to quite a few foods.
Check if you get an 'episode' after eating some-thing say, an hour later.

As with(name escapes me)the famous last words of the author, "Either this wallpaper goes or I do".

Posted by: patb on February 18, 2007 01:24 AM

Don't click on this link unless you are very prepared. It is wrenching. An abbreviated account of three Iraqi women going to the morgue to retrieve a young male family member's remains.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x237516

Send it everywhere you dare.

(Of course, I realize this is not nearly as important as the story about some dim-wit entertainer who has shaved her head.)

Posted by: shylurker on February 18, 2007 01:33 AM

Clymela, one more detail: I'm talking about actual fibrilating too. With you on the medical community/meds, every time I don't trust myself and go I receive genuine harm, even sustained life-long damage. Thankfully I'm uneffected by the usual list of maladies/dependencies.

Posted by: patb on February 18, 2007 01:38 AM

http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/02/17/renewal/

Renewal

If you haven't been introduced to the magic that is a Miyazake anime film, take a little time to watch this. It's my favorite scene in Kiki's Delivery Service, and it deals with that intangible spark that we have that gives birth to creative impulse. Kiki is a young witch who has lost her faith in herself and, thus, lost her "magic" — her spirit.

Her artist friend in the film (played by Janeane Garofolo in the English dubbed version, btw), tells Kiki that sometimes, you need to take a step back and take care of yourself in order to recover your spirit. This is such great advice, as anyone who has suffered from writer's block can tell you, since the more you push the worse things generally get.

Sometimes in life, whatever it is that is dragging you along really requires you to be able to take a step back in order to see the whole of the problem that you face. One of the best things about having The Peanut is that I get to watch these great Miyazake animes over and over, and that playing with her helps me to renew the weariness that sometimes seeps in from the overwhelming news we sift through day to day on the blog.

I thought we could all use a pause, and a little discussion about renewal. What are you doing to feed your spark?

Posted by: Pat C on February 18, 2007 02:11 AM

The Gore Statement: Disinformation from ABC News:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/2/18/462/88977

Now why would the same network who aired "Path to 911" deliberately mislead people about Gore's intentions? Perhaps its a fear that a Democratic President might lead to re-regulation of the broadcast media? Maybe it's Disney's long-term Republican right-wing bias? But Gore would make his intentions clear in a formal press conference before many people, like he did the last time.

And why should Gore stop things, even if you are convinced he won't run? The press and speculation helps promote his projects, creates people willing to volunteer for his projects, and the way the Democratic field looks, there is probably nobody he couldn't beat except Hillary, and she's shaky at best.

Posted by: Carol on February 18, 2007 10:02 AM

Don't be for sure it's any candidate, WV. Guys like Donahue will only go after biguns. Working for a local candidate where people may know you personally may not be a problem. The guy gets 300K a year from dubious right-wing sugar daddies to bash anything that criticizes the right-wing vision for the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church gets to save a political alliance for the basis of outlawing birth control and keeping gay marriage off the table. Of course, Fundies still haven't let go of their feelings about Catholics, but the leaders downplay it.

Posted by: Carol on February 18, 2007 10:07 AM

PatB-thank you dear sister ( we must be from the same tribe with this chart.NO??) You have addressed my very question-I am taking a statin that is making me sturpid and a meds made from digitalis!! Okay I know where to go now. also, I think you can reach me through this site-I would love to hear the info you have received.
Please forgive the personal info everyone else-I have been feeling desperate and frightened and needing alternative info.

Posted by: clymela on February 18, 2007 03:20 PM

MUST read- all of it

Soldiers Face Neglect, Frustration At Army's Top Medical Facility

By Dana Priest and Anne Hull
Washington Post
Sunday, February 18, 2007; A01

WP- http://tinyurl.com/289bph

.................

The anti-Murtha/Pelosi Sunday Editorial in today's Washington Post:

http://tinyurl.com/28lgbe

.................

A Man of Mystery
Richard Hohlt is the heavy hitter you've never heard of.

snip

Asked by one of Libby's lawyers if he had talked about Plame with anybody else before outing her in his column, Novak said he'd discussed her with a lobbyist named Richard Hohlt. Who, the lawyer pressed, is Hohlt? "He's a very good source of mine" whom I talk to "every day," Novak replied. Indeed, Hohlt is such a good source that after Novak finished his column naming Plame, he testified, he did something most journalists rarely do: he gave the lobbyist an advance copy of his column. What Novak didn't tell the jury is what the lobbyist then did with it: Hohlt confirmed to NEWSWEEK that he faxed the forthcoming column to their mutual friend Karl Rove (one of Novak's sources for the Plame leak), thereby giving the White House a heads up on the bombshell to come.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17202408/site/newsweek/

Posted by: Pat C on February 18, 2007 04:02 PM

http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/02/18/what-did-rove-know-and-when-did-he-know-it/

What did Rove know and when did he know it?

Posted by: Pat C on February 18, 2007 04:26 PM

Oh, this one's a beaut!
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/02/16/terror/main2488520.shtml

Just imagine! One of their own funding the terraists.

Add to your list, JudiGem.

Posted by: shylurker on February 18, 2007 05:14 PM

Doonesbury

http://images.ucomics.com/comics/db/2007/db070218.gif

Posted by: Pat C on February 18, 2007 05:17 PM


February 18, 2007
Op-Ed Columnist

Oh What a Malleable War

By FRANK RICH
MAYBE the Bush White House can’t conduct a war, but no one has ever impugned its ability to lie about its conduct of a war. Now even that well-earned reputation for flawless fictionalizing is coming undone. Watching the administration try to get its story straight about Iran’s role in Iraq last week was like watching third graders try to sidestep blame for misbehaving while the substitute teacher was on a bathroom break. The team that once sold the country smoking guns in the shape of mushroom clouds has completely lost its mojo.

Surely these guys can do better than this. No sooner did unnamed military officials unveil their melodramatically secretive briefing in Baghdad last Sunday than Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, blew the whole charade. General Pace said he didn’t know about the briefing and couldn’t endorse its contention that the Iranian government’s highest echelons were complicit in anti-American hostilities in Iraq. Public-relations pandemonium ensued as Tony Snow, the State Department and finally the president tried to revise the story line on the fly. Back when Karl Rove ruled, everyone read verbatim from the same script. Last week’s frantic improvisations were vintage Scooter Libby, at best the ur-text for a future perjury trial.

http://donkeyod.wordpress.com/

Posted by: wv on February 18, 2007 06:06 PM

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/2/18/9058/26589

Collapse of U.S. health system generates huge fees for Citibank and others

Americans must get active on this!

Posted by: Pat C on February 18, 2007 06:32 PM

Joanna, thank you for posting this http://www.well.com/user/davidu/tarnas.html
I believe it was Madame Blatavasky who intimated the purpose of the current root race is to develop the left brain. I do appreciate the birthing process metaphor and so thanks again for posting this inspiring writing........Here again I'll recommend "No Boundaries" by Ken Wilber; which one can read wearing tenny runners rather than the intellectual hip boots usually required for reading him. A boundry is a connection!........Nameste', Timmy J (hehehe)

Posted by: Timmy J on February 18, 2007 09:33 PM

"V" MAKES A MARK IN WASHINGTON DC

*snip*

“V” is helping us as we build support for the unalienable Right to a Response from Government to our Petitions for Redress of Grievances regarding the Government’s violation of the war powers, tax, privacy and money clauses of the Constitution.

“V” is helping us as we educate the public about the First Amendment’s guarantee of our Right to Petition Government for Redress of Grievances.

*snip*
*snip*

November 18, 2006

“V” Makes A Mark In DC

Worldwide Interest in RTP Stirred

It’s working.

We are making good use of the powerful concept of en masse activist resistance used in the movie, “V for Vendetta.”

“V” is helping us as we build support for the unalienable Right to a Response from Government to our Petitions for Redress of Grievances regarding the Government’s violation of the war powers, tax, privacy and money clauses of the Constitution.

“V” is helping us as we educate the public about the First Amendment’s guarantee of our Right to Petition Government for Redress of Grievances.

On November 6, 2006, a lone man in a “V” mask and clothing visited security checkpoints at the White House, the main Treasury Building, the Department of Justice and the Capitol, to deliver a letter and the Petitions for Redress. A short videotape of the encounters has made its way around the Internet, including links from sites such as MySpace.com.

The letter informed the leaders of the Executive and Legislative branches of the federal government that up to 100 people in “V” masks and clothing would gather in silent vigil at those locations on November 14th to await a response to the Petitions for Redress.

True to his word, at 11:00 A.M. on Tuesday, November 14, 2006, nearly 100 men and women in “V” masks and clothing could be seen walking along different streets in downtown Washington, DC, all heading to Lafayette Park across Pennsylvania Avenue from the White House.

By high noon, the “Vs” were facing the White House, in formation. Some were holding a 40-foot by 25-foot banner that read, “Dear Government…No Answers, No Taxes.” Four were holding smaller signs that read “Obey The Constitution – The Right To Petition.”

They waited about one hour for a representative of President Bush to approach them with some response to the Petitions.

As has been his wont, the President did not respond.

*snip*
*snip*

The “Vs” on the outside edges of the formation distributed hundreds of We The People Foundation brochures to anyone requesting one. The supply was nearly depleted by the time the formation moved on to the next location.

After the silent vigil in front of the White House, the “Vs” broke ranks and reformed, with banner and signs, a few hundred feet down Pennsylvania Avenue, directly facing the main Treasury Building where they waited a half hour for a representative of Treasury Secretary Paulson to respond to the Petitions for Redress -- especially the Petition regarding the privately owned Federal Reserve System and the violations of the money clauses of the Constitution.

As has been its custom, Treasury did not respond.

*snip*

*snip*

The “Vs” then marched down 15th Street and Constitution Avenue to the Department of Justice, where they waited for a half hour, with banner and signs for the Attorney General to respond to the Petitions for Redress.

As has been its tradition, the Department of Justice did not respond.

*snip*

*snip*

The “Vs” then marched to the Reflecting Pool and faced the Capitol as they waited for representatives of the House Speaker and Senate Majority Leader to respond to the Petitions for Redress.

Habituated, Congress did not respond.

*snip*

*snip*

Coming: 1,000 “Vs” in DC
Plans are now underway for a GiveMeLiberty 2007 Conference. Most likely it will take place in DC on a Thursday, Friday and Saturday. On one of those days we hope to assemble 1,000 “V” demonstrators on the street in support of our Right to Petition the Government for Redress of constitutional torts, including our Right to a Response and our Right of Enforcement if Government does not respond to our proper, constitutionally based Petitions for Redress.

*snip*

The whole thing here:

http://www.raidersnewsnetwork.com/articles/givemeliberty-org-RTP2-UPDATES-Update2006-11-18-htm

Posted by: Timmy J on February 18, 2007 10:34 PM

The first response to this post is very interesting. What do you think about it?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x263929

Posted by: shylurker on February 19, 2007 04:06 AM

http://salon.com/opinion/feature/2007/02/19/conason/

It could happen here

In an excerpt from his new book, Salon's columnist explains why, for the first time since the resignation of Richard M. Nixon, Americans have reason to doubt the future of their democracy.

By Joe Conason

Posted by: Pat C on February 19, 2007 06:16 AM


OpEdNews

Original Content at http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_tim_hook_070216_amateur_hour_at_the_.htm


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February 18, 2007

Amateur Hour at the Tennessee State Legislature

By Tim Hooker

I once thought about getting into the game, but not anymore.

I'm talking about the ultimate game-- politics.
It happened innocently enough. I interviewed a couple of local politicos a few years back and they were so amateurish that my knee-jerk reaction was, "Oh, come on."

And, now, my aghast is extended to my state legislature.

According to CBS News, Tennessee State Representative Stacy Campfield has introduced legislation that would require death certificates for aborted fetuses. And, it is arguably the worst idea since Mr. Hitler said to Mrs. Hitler, "I'm in the mood for love."

http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/print_friendly.php?p=opedne_tim_hook_070216_amateur_hour_at_the_.htm

Posted by: wv on February 19, 2007 02:24 PM

WV, I saw that...as you can imagine, some of us are outraged here in TN, and there are so many questions to ask on this, but here's my first one---are they gonna issue them birth certificates first? I doubt you could legally get a death certificate without a birth certificate.

And as y'all would suspect, this is just a smokescreen/piece of red meat for the xtian Rethug base here......(sigh)

love y'all/namaste!
G

Posted by: Garry Todd on February 19, 2007 02:35 PM

* The Religious Right's Era Is Over

As I have traveled around the country, one line in my speeches always draws cheers: "The monologue of the Religious Right is over, & a new dialogue has now begun." We have now entered the post-Religious Right era. Though religion has had a negative image in the last few decades, the years ahead may be shaped by a dynamic & more progressive faith that will make needed social change more possible.

In the churches, a combination of deeper compassion & better theology has moved many pastors & congregations away from the partisan politics of the Religious Right. In politics, we are beginning to see a leveling of the playing field between the two parties on religion & "moral values," & the media are finally beginning to cover the many & diverse voices of faith. These are all big changes in American life, & the rest of the world is taking notice.

Evangelicals—esp the new generation of pastors & young people—are deserting the Religious Right in droves. The evangelical social agenda is now much broader & deeper, engaging issues like poverty & economic justice, global warming, HIV/AIDS, sex trafficking, genocide in Darfur & the ethics of the war in Iraq. Catholics are returning to their social teaching; mainline Protestants are asserting their faith more aggressively; a new generation of young black & Latino pastors are putting the focus on social justice; a Jewish renewal movement & more moderate Islam are also growing; & a whole new denomination has emerged, which might be called the "spiritual but not religious." ... http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1590782,00.html

Posted by: JoannaOregon on February 19, 2007 03:29 PM

C-span sickened me this morning! I turned it off.
Topic: Yopur favoprite President. Almost all the calls were from people supporting Bush as a "NON-LIAR" ??
I tried desperately to call in even calling the Repiug line, couldn't get through.............more Repug phone jamming? It wasn't evenly close to the 06 election result, or any poll I've seen anywhere.. Bush's dentist even called in for God's sake saying what an "honest" good ole' boy he is. Noble of purpose and so great we won't even recognize it for years.....HUH?
BAH Humbug!
QOP

Posted by: on February 19, 2007 03:32 PM


Comment

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Once George Bush has got hold of a bad idea he just can't let it go


We watch plans for an attack on Iran unfold even as the official narrative for the run-up to the Iraq war unravels

Gary Younge
Monday February 19, 2007
The Guardian


On December 20 1954, a woman known as Marion Keech gathered her followers in her garden in Lake City, Illinois, and waited for midnight, when flying saucers were supposed to land and save them from huge floods about to engulf the planet.
Keech had received news of the impending deluge from Sananda, a being from the planet Clarion, whose messages she passed on to a small group of believers. Unbeknown to her, the group had been infiltrated by a University of Minnesota researcher, the social psychologist Leon Festinger.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,2016049,00.html

Posted by: wv on February 19, 2007 03:33 PM


OpEdNews

Original Content at http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_mark_a___070218_talking_with_jesus__.htm


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February 18, 2007

Talking with Jesus... again

By Mark Goldman

Mark: Hi. It's good to see you again.

Jesus: It's good to see you again too. Thanks for taking time for this.

Mark: Well. I'm not sure what to say. Forgive me for saying this but you look a little troubled or something.

Jesus: Maybe. I am a little concerned. I do have some things that I'd like to get off my chest, so to speak.

Mark: Why don't you start wherever you want.

http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/print_friendly.php?p=opedne_mark_a___070218_talking_with_jesus__.htm

Posted by: wv on February 19, 2007 03:37 PM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/18/AR2007021800903.html

Can a Saudi Dealmaker Rescue Bush?

For 22 years Prince Bandar bin Sultan wheeled and dealed his way through Washington as Saudi Arabia's ambassador. By his account -- provided expansively to favored journalists -- he had a hand in most of America's major initiatives in the Middle East over a generation. During George W. Bush's presidency, for example, he brokered U.S. rapprochement with Libya and previewed plans for the invasion of Iraq two months before the war.

For a while after returning home in the summer of 2005, Bandar kept a low profile. Some speculated he was out of favor with the kingdom's ruler, Abdullah, despite his appointment as national security adviser. Now he's back: Since the beginning of the year the prince has suddenly begun wheeling and dealing his way around the Middle East.

In the past month Bandar has held three meetings with the Iranian national security chief, Ali Larijani, most recently last Wednesday in Riyadh. He's met twice with Vladimir Putin, in Moscow and Riyadh, to talk about Middle East affairs; overseen talks between Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas and Hamas leaders; and quietly shuttled to Washington to brief President Bush. He helped broker this month's Palestinian accord on a unity government as well as a Saudi-Iranian understanding to cool political conflict in Lebanon. And he's been talking with the most senior officials of the Iranian and U.S. governments about whether there's a way out of the standoff over Iran's nuclear weapons.

more...

...........

http://news.yahoo.com/photo/070219/481/kmz10202191246

AP - Mon Feb 19, 7:46 AM ET

A float depicting U.S. President George W. Bush being spanked by the Statue Of Liberty passes by during the Rose Monday carnival parade in Mainz, western Germany, on Monday, Feb. 19, 2007. Thousands of spectators attended the traditional street carnival parade in the state of Rhineland-Palatinates's capital. (AP Photo/Bernd Kammerer)

Posted by: Pat C on February 19, 2007 03:44 PM

* A Youth Exodus From Church--What Are We Doing Wrong? Youth are leaving - do we need to change something?

AgapePress has reported that Dr Frank Page, the new prez of the Southern Baptist Convention, is disturbed that many students are leaving the church once they graduate. Indeed, the Convention's Council on Family Life reports that some 88% of children from evangelical homes are leaving the church shortly after they graduate from high school.

But why?

I wonder if it is not for these three reasons: ... http://www.afa.net/church/GetArticle.asp?id=327

Posted by: JoannaOregon on February 19, 2007 05:33 PM

GREAT Articles Posted by All of you, as well as important articles in the news.

I don't know if I responded to them so much because tomorrow, Feb. 20, is my solar return, or if it is because the Aquarius/Pisces transitional point is particularly in tune with truth and social justice (imho!)

And these are just the ones I read!

I loved hearing about the V for Vendetta protest movement that is growing!!!

I loved the article, "The Religious Right's Era is Over," not for its anti Religious Right sentiments but for it's description of the deeper family and spiritual values that the various religions are moving towards. "Social reform usually requries spiritual revival."

I grooved over the writing of the article "Once George Bush Has Got Hold of a Bad Idea, He Just Can't Let it Go" ("History doesn't repeat itself, it rhymes" - Mark Train -- GREAT LINE!!!!)

"Can A Saudi Dealmaker Rescue Bush?" was a very interesting description of the Saudi wheeler/dealer, Prince Bandar - he seems to be VERY effective.

And the picture of Georgie spanked by the Statue of Liberty - Priceless!

Posted by: Sharon on February 19, 2007 05:54 PM

Pray that Prince Bandar will be sucessful and be able to separate a man from his bad idea.

Posted by: Sharon on February 19, 2007 05:59 PM

Good! ( On Link TV), I have been watching Bandar's energetic, ( with an overtone of anxiety) efforts, with the various M E leaders, I'm glad he is including Bush on his schedule.
It's funny about Cspan.the othner staions are loostening up a bit! Even PBS, in spite of Archer Daniels Midland's sponsorship.
QOP

Posted by: on February 19, 2007 10:46 PM

I'd be so embarrassed to have anyone refer to me as "prince," "duke," "count," etc etc OR alternatively, refer to someone else as those names. It's so archaic, fairtale-ish, so obviously dominator system & egoic... yea, verily, embarrassing & silly.

Posted by: JoannaOregon on February 19, 2007 11:23 PM


You may be surprised by the results....

http://franz.org/quiz.htm

I got 11.

Posted by: wv on February 19, 2007 11:54 PM

It's getting even wilder. That National Republican Congressional Committee member I posted about above who is charged with giving money to the terraists is not the only one, it appears:
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002601.php

(Again, JudiGem, another one for your list.)

Posted by: shylurker on February 19, 2007 11:56 PM


Chris Hedges on _American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War On America_

Video and Transcript

Chris Hedges's new book examines how Christian dominionists are seeking absolute power and a Christian state. According to Hedges, the movement bears a strong resemblance to the young fascist movements in Italy and Germany in the 1920s and '30s. Hedges is the former New York Times Middle East bureau chief and author of "War Is a Force That Gives Us Meaning.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17125.htm

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The Science of Evil and its use for Political Purposes

By Carolyn Baker

Lobaczewski_s analysis goes to the heart of why the United States government has become a criminal enterprise hell-bent on dominating the world and annihilating vast quantities of human beings globally and domestically.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17127.htm

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Making Martial Law Easier

New York Times Editorial

A disturbing recent phenomenon in Washington is that laws that strike to the heart of American democracy have been passed in the dead of night. So it was with a provision quietly tucked into the enormous defense budget bill at the Bush administration_s behest that makes it easier for a president to override local control of law enforcement and declare martial law.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17124.htm

===
Big Brother is Watching You!

9 Minute Video

Your email and conversation is monitored.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17117.htm

Posted by: wv on February 20, 2007 12:00 AM

Don't get your hopes up too high about Prince Bandar, Sharon. He's in very very thick with the neocons and Snarly, too:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Bandar

Posted by: shylurker on February 20, 2007 12:08 AM

Interesting survey, wv, I got 9 (I also skipped about 3 or 4 which, had I answered, may have given me a lower score now that I think abou it).

Posted by: Sharon on February 20, 2007 12:12 AM

WV I got an 8... tad more liberal then Hillary and not so far as Teddy.

Posted by: Morgana on February 20, 2007 12:15 AM

I imagine so, Shy, but it is in no one's best interest in the ME to allow the U.S. to take out Iran's nuclear facilities. If we truly distrust them and feel they will make and use weapons, we should use diplomacy, do the weapons inspectors route and this time finish it. The other ME countries, Russia, China are the best brokers for diplomatic talks and pressure. I read today that Russia announced it will slow down delivery of equipment, etc., needed for their nuclear progress as Iran isn't paying on time. I have heard that they have financial problems. I think the U.S. knows an attack will make things very unstable. They are using supposed military strategies to pressure Iran but probably the CIA is working to engineer an internal "revolution." Of course, anything can happen.

Posted by: Sharon on February 20, 2007 12:18 AM

Oh geez.I'm 12 wedged right there between Hill & Bill. And I don't want either of them for pres.
Some of those choices were a no go either choice!SHould I have left them blank?
QOP

Posted by: on February 20, 2007 12:37 AM

I rec'd a 7... what's the point when below... say, 10 & under. Or even 20 & under when possibility is... YIKES! ...100!!!!

Posted by: JoannaOregon on February 20, 2007 12:51 AM

I got an 8. Is 8 great?

Posted by: shylurker on February 20, 2007 01:12 AM

I scored 3, y'all. How I managed that, I don't know. LOL.

Posted by: Gina on February 20, 2007 02:44 AM

I came in as a 4: would probably had a lower number if the questions were different.

Posted by: clymela on February 20, 2007 03:03 AM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!! Well I think these are WONDERFUL numbers, dear folks!! Way to GO!!!

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