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Following their presentation to the President, which was met with a decided lack of enthusiasm, they were whisked onto the hallowed halls of Congress with sirens, limousines, ample SUV’s and bodyguards while Congress listened to the summary of the opinions contained in the report, http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/061206_iraq_study_group_report.pdf (thanks Morgana) and so it was on December 6, 2006 at 11:01 AM, they delivered said summary of 169 pages that could have been lifted from newspaper articles over the last eight months. I spite of the fact almost the first words were “dire and deteriorating, it still took them eight months to put this seemingly simple document together and with the administrative help from the US Institute for Peace. At this point I would like to interject a observation, Warren Buffet, one of the richest men in the world, drives his own car, lives in the same house he bought 35 years ago, walks around unattended in Omaha, and travels without bodyguards, he doesn’t seem to need the “hokey pokey,” and a man confident of his position in life. Just a side observation on my part. A tentative question was asked as to their credentials for coming to their conclusions, seems a couple of Congressmen were wondering since they had not one Middle Eastern expert on the panel and only two members had ever been in Iraq and that was in the Green Zone (Chuck Robb did venture out of that highly protected environment, but only for a few minutes) how they drew their conclusions, Mr. Baker met those questions with a wink to his fellow study group members. With the exception of William J. Perry, born in 1927, everyone on this panel was born between 1930 and 1939 with Pluto in Cancer. In 1927 it was at 13 degrees and in 1939 it was at 29 degrees Cancer. Pluto in Cancer is a group of people who like to remake their home, family, or country, they understand the darker side of human nature, they can easily manipulate others for good or for ill, and their emotional connection to the human being helps them to keep their pulse on what people are looking for, if they put their imprimatur on a document, like it or not it will become the standard the American people look toward. With Pluto bearing down on Capricorn, this is about the last hurrah for this generation to make an impact and have influence but right now they do. Pluto in Cancer trumps any other planet in Cancer, including the Bush Sun and Saturn, the US Venus, Jupiter, Sun and Mercury. The 30’s group will steam roll over any other agenda.
James Baker has a ton of planets in Taurus and he will not let go of what’s his and Saudi Arabia is his right now as is the health of Opec. George Bush has planets in Cancer as does the United States and we are interested in protecting our home turf, which leads me to December 6th Chart and the massive amount of inconjuncts to Baker, Bush and America’s charts, those inconjuncts will most assuredly manage to confuse everyone involved in this Study, no one will know how to implement the suggestions so another level of confusion and insanity has been added to Iraq. In fact this whole process from beginning to end has been surrounded in confusion and obfuscation. No one in this group has a concept of what they were supposed to do or what they were supposed to accomplish. Lee Hamilton particularly isn’t too happy with the results or George’s response. They did get “dire and deteriorating” correct and that might have been the most wisdom coming from the Sagittarius stellium of Mars, Jupiter, Sun, Venus and Pluto. While the Venus and Pluto conjunction does inconjunct Bush’s Saturn and Baker’s Venus, while squaring Hamilton’s Venus, it also makes sure the report packs a punch. But what is that punch? They didn’t give any real recommendations for implementation; it was pretty much a report on what was wrong. There was one suggestion that seems ludicrous on the surface if you are truly interested in the killing of our soldiers to end, and that is to “embed” US forces in Iraqi Army units. Their Army, such as it is, is a rough make up of Shia death squads. That doesn’t seem to be a good idea if your intention is for our soldier’s safety. Greg Palast aptly names the warring factions as the “murderous Shia” (who Iran backs) and in the Saudi’s corner are the “Sunni berserkers,” funded by the Saudi’s. This is the hell hole our soldiers find themselves. Add to that incendiary mix and according to Palast the Saudi’s told Cheney in no uncertain terms that if we pull out American troops they will “crank up more payments to their Sunni warrior brothers in Iraq.” The reason this report is so vague is we aren’t going anywhere and the December 6th Chart shows that clearly and Congress won’t be able to do a thing as they take office on the Capricorn/Cancer Full Moon right on the US Sun signaling a new group is in town and before Bush gets out of office he will have to make “comrades” of them if he wants to survive. The Dec. chart’s Sun at 14 Sagittarius is in a sextile to the US Saturn (represents the President) and Jim Baker’s Chiron and Lee Hamilton’s Mercury form a yod to that sextile; they have delivered the message to the President that he has created a mess and he had better find a way to play nice with Iran with the hope that a diplomatic solution can be found to call off the Shia death squads. Venus and Pluto of the Dec. chart also trines Saturn in the same chart; this group will be in control of the Presidency and they have high hopes of saving this administration from further humiliation and the country from further destruction. Working together won’t be easy, a constant at odds over the recommendations in the IGS. The King of Jordon might be right, three civil wars in the Middle East by this time next year. One interesting aspect in the chart of the original meeting of the commission, March 15th, the South Node was conjunct GWB’s Neptune, what he thinks was happening with this group isn’t what was happening. The President was set up on this one and will lead to surrounding him in a box, losing more and more power. I don’t know who came to the White House with the suggestion of an Iraq Study, but whoever it was they were wolves in sheep’s clothing. You do the hokey pokey and you turn yourself around and that’s what it’s all about.
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http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-juhasz8dec08,0,4717508.story Posted by: Sally on December 10, 2006 07:06 AMFascinating study on the ISG Sally. I could not help but think about how angry Baker must be at GWB's reaction to the study after all he did back in 2000 to get the guy in power. He put his right foot in and now he can take his right foot out. Baker is powerful and one that the king should have kept happy. I think the next 6 months will be very interesting to observe. I don't know a whole lot about Lee Hamilton but I felt he had good intentions, as did the ISG in general. Did you notice how GWB refused to introduce the whole panel? I thought that was very rude. (Bill Clinton would have introduced them all and made them all feel important and special!) Posted by: Laurie on December 10, 2006 07:41 AMYes Clinton would have introduced the whole panel Laurie and looking at Hamilton's chart in relation to Bush, I expect he was very irritated. They are trying to save the oil, and keep Saudi Arabia happy and save the Bush family butt at the same time, not an easy task. The whole thing is doomed for failure because the agenda was not honest and they are trying to play the ends against the middle. The mess is too big and soon to be uncontained at all. Frank Rich has a really good editorial out on this, I recommend it. The Sun Shine Boys is a great title. Later in 2007 Baker comes up against some problems and this will just be one of them. This much is for sure, he is not to be trusted. http://roziusunbound.blogspot.com/2006/12/frank-rich-sunshine-boys-cant-save-iraq.html Posted by: Sally on December 10, 2006 07:50 AMThis is how bad things have gotten: where Jim Baker is seen as the good guy. How nice it would be if Baker said to W, paternal-like, "I brought you into this (presidency) and I can take you out of it." And then, take him out (not kill him of course, though you never know what they'll do). W seems to be forgetting, if he ever really know, who REALLY runs this country. And it's not Cheney, either - Cheney comes running when the Saudis summon him. W was installed by the puppet masters because he was too dumb to buck them. Now, things are coming to a head and the masters must be none too pleased. That includes Pappy and his oil interests. Because it's become abundantly clear that this clown will not, never, no way no how, cooperate now. He must be removed. And if not by congress, if not by the US people, then by the puppet masters. Posted by: Larry on December 10, 2006 08:56 AMAt the end of the day the ball is in Bush's court, even if he's dropped to 30% in the polls. At the end of the day he controls the policy, and while the new congress can give him some oversight at the end of the day he'll be calling shots for the next two years. That's why I think so many people are already turning he page to 2008: Why Obama Could Make It All The Way Remember JFK’s “pass the torch to a new generation” theme? He represented an epochal historical and cultural shift for the most potent reason possible: he embodied it. His age and inexperience, his religion, his look and style, the whole package. Obvious parallels with Obama, possibly tidal in scope and depth. That’s why Obama could make it all the way and, if he did, it would be huge. Posted by: Michael from NYC on December 10, 2006 09:45 AMAt the end of the day the ball is in Bush's court, even if he's dropped to 30% in the polls. At the end of the day he controls the policy, and while the new congress can give him some oversight at the end of the day he'll be calling shots for the next two years. That's why I think so many people are already turning he page to 2008: Why Obama Could Make It All The Way Remember JFK’s “pass the torch to a new generation” theme? He represented an epochal historical and cultural shift for the most potent reason possible: he embodied it. His age and inexperience, his religion, his look and style, the whole package. Obvious parallels with Obama, possibly tidal in scope and depth. That’s why Obama could make it all the way and, if he did, it would be huge. Posted by: Michael from NYC on December 10, 2006 09:46 AMObama doesn't impress me so much and I sure don't see parallels with JFK, he just doesn't have that kind of charisma, but he represents a fresher promise of something new. I would love to see an African American or a woman as President. I don't think Hillary can possibly make it although the GOP want her because she is the easiest to run against. Looking at his chart, Obama has more parallels to Clinton than to JFK, he even has the Leo Sun and Taurus Moon like Clinton and Clinton held that promise of something fresh and new in 1992. I hate to say this, but can he bring in the money it would take to start that climb. He's not a wealthy man and although Kennedy had a real upward climb in 1959/1960, but he had a huge political machine behind him because of his grandfathers and his father, not to mention the personal money Joe Kennedy (dad) paid out. I expect Obama is out there now trying to see if he can raise any money for a run. I do think folks are excited about him because he is a new face on the scene. Another possibility is his wife, her family might have a large fortune and could afford to put millions of their own funds into a campaign. I'm just not sold on Obama, but then again there isn't anyone out there I feel real excited about. Another new face to watch is Jim Webb from Virginia, he's a little pugnacious for me, but he is smart, articulate, a maverick, and willing to go head to head and I'm not sure we will not be embroiled in the Mid East by 2008 even more so than we are now the people might be scared not to go with a war time president, Webb would fit that bill. He's also been a Reagan Republican (whatever that means) and could draw in the moderate vote. I don't actually see anyone being mentioned that can bring in the evangical vote and if they could I think they would lose everyone else, still the South is a massive voting block and could upset any election. Posted by: Sally on December 10, 2006 10:33 AMHappy Inpoeachment Day all! Very interesting Sally! I came to this article fresh from listening to a 1/2 hour Woodrow WIlson Center Dialogue with Lee Hamilton; looking for their website so I could respond;"correct him"! He was blowing quite a lot of hot air thru his nether orifaces unimpeded by clothing! What he said, didn't resonate as evil, or greedy, just unintuitive ignorance. Inability to percieve another's reality. "The American people's failing to SAVE $ is a cultural deficency peculiar to Americans. Correctable by better education?" Hello Lee, you can't save what you don't have! That Baker and Hamilton were anchors for this report boded ill from the beginning. A set up, for sure, as you indicate, Sally. Everyone's trying to protect their own bu** and turf. The back stabbing is going to be one nasty game of one upsmanship. And all the while the murder of innocents will continue unabated. I had a dream last night about a big, Texas-style man in his late sixties who left his large truck running wherever he went. Though he was jovial on the surface, he intimidated all those around him. No one ever confronted him about this bad habit. I told him he needed to turn off his truck. Not only was he contaminating the air his children and grandchildren breathed, but he was also leaving them a dying world. He was shocked that i dared speak to him in that manner, but i held my ground. To me this man symbolized all that must pass before we are able to reclaim the very planet itself. QOPat. . .i've often thought the same thing. How foolish to tell people to save when they're making minimum wage. In fact, how ignorant. karen, Ahhhh, always refreshing, the plunge into reality. I just wish that somehow the veneer could be stripped from the popular nooze and people could understand the full impact of the Saudi connection on the US, which you have so skillfully presented, Cap'n Sally. They've really gotten themselves into a huge mess now. And, most unfortunately, the US and the world is stuck in the mess with them. What to do in a situation where you have installed someone in the Oval House who is not qualified by any stretch and who is as stubborn as they come, particularly when the Veep position is occupied by one of the strangest persons around, and one who cannot be trusted. They're really in a very bad bind. I keep thinking about Nancy Pelosi, two heartbeats away from a Very Important Job. Not likely to happen, I know, but it's still interesting to think about. Posted by: shylurker on December 10, 2006 04:11 PMBaker=Bad News. Does anyone remember the debates between Poopy and Clinton in the 80's? Poopy said he'd bring in Baker to figure out a problem, and Clinton said he'd not bring in anyone and figure out the problem himself. Same old, same old * family tactics. Wimps. Baker is the Shiva of *co. Shiva in legend is the godworld meets the human body. Baker is probably the liason of the Illuminati. He is the one they let out in the world to be seen. QOP, I am beginning to wonder how tightly wrapped or in what universe some of these people live in where they relate their financially safe lifestyle with those who have none. Most of us are in a better place than the people who have to live on the streets or in shelters but do any of us have a problem understanding how hard life is for them with their addictions and mental illnesses. I will admit to having a lack of understanding of those who would criticize when they have not walked a mile in another's shoes. By the way, on one of the morning shows Tony Blair was being interviewed and I heard him say, and no one challanged him "the US and UK initiatives in Iraq have been successful, it's just the people who are giving us problems." Now can someone help me with a possible intelligent understanding of what he could have meant? Because the way I took it was "our life could be perfect if people would just do what we say." That is an incredible statement leading me back to "these people are not tightly wrapped." Posted by: Sally on December 10, 2006 04:25 PMDoonesbury Hi, I'm Jim Baker ............. THE TONIGHT SHOW WITH JAY LENO
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Apparently their trip has caused what’s known as chaos, to the point where, according to ABCNews.com, the American Embassy and many Argentine officials have strongly suggested the twins return to America. Just to repeat, Argentina, former safe-haven for Nazi war criminals, is drawing the line at the Bush twins.
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Everything is going real good in the Middle East for the evil people who want to get World War III started to help usher in the New World Order end-time government of Satan, as predicted in the Bible. The Dems want to play nice, but impeachment isn't a choice, it's a duty. Get to work. In view of Rummy's memo and the findings of the Iraq Study Group, will the Bush administration now apologize to France and old Europe? Posted by: Pat C on December 10, 2006 05:43 PM"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (& hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." - HL Mencken I don't think they're as "alarmed" anymore. In fact, I think the We, The People, probably due a lot to the internet, are becoming quite well informed & figuring out a number of things they'd rather do than follow a tiny wedget of nasty stinkin' self-serving, old wargeezers into everlasting serial disasters. That's what I think. Sally terrific insight into the actions of these folks. The "I" word is picking up momentum. Sally, It brings to mind what one pioneering neurosurgeon said as he doggedly developed brain surgery to the point where it would actually save a life. "The operation was a success, but the patient died." True story. Posted by: lunaoscura on December 10, 2006 06:11 PMThe writings of Lieutenant General William E. Odom, U.S. Army (Ret.) Posted by: Pat C on December 10, 2006 06:23 PMBaker vs. “The Lobby” By Mike Whitney 12/09/06 "Information Clearing House" -- -- The tension between the Bush administration and the members of the Iraq Study Group, illustrates the widening chasm between old-guard U.S. imperialists and “Israel-first” neoconservatives. The divisions are setting the stage for a major battle between the two camps. The winner will probably decide US policy in the Middle East for the next decade. More... http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article15853.htm Posted by: Pat C on December 10, 2006 07:31 PMMr Mike Whitney is a limited pink dualist... an either/or kind of guy. Neither of his choices appeal to me... & there're tens of millions of Other People to whom they have zero appeal as well. Posted by: JoannaOregon on December 10, 2006 08:19 PMAnd the Democrats.com have been promoting today as Impeachment day with gatherings and house parites across the land. 5,000 wreaths made in Maine are on their way to Washington, DC. Continuing a yearly ritual, Worcester Wreath Company in Harrington is donating the wreaths to Arlington National Cemetery. There they will be laid on graves of fallen soldiers. The wreath laying will take place on Thursday. The truck carrying the wreaths will be escorted by members of the Patriot Guard. The laying of the wreaths in Arlington will coincide with the laying of wreaths at 200 locations across the U.S. Dowd at her priceless best! Poppy is sobbing, his face in his hands, slumped in one of the http://roziusunbound.blogspot.com/2006/12/maureen-dowd-oval-intervention.html QOP Posted by: on December 10, 2006 10:28 PMCan anyone imagine that many wreaths, in gigantic processions with big ol' fire trucks, being laid on graves of women who've died giving Life, as in childbirth? No... I didn't think so. Jes guys dying giving death. Posted by: JoannaOregon on December 10, 2006 10:30 PMThe new generation cometh: Ah, the wreaths, and this last full moon's Sun Symbol is Sagittarius 13: A Widow's Past is Brought to Light. There's a lot of widows around including those women who now have to care for husbands that have had parts of their bodies blown off... When I was in the States, this last trip, it was either in Tucson or Phoenix, I saw a man walking down the street with a woman holding his had for support. He had lost both feet and had steel things where his feet should have been. He was a big, strong, young (early 30's, I'd guess) man... he would have been a stapping lad in his day... reduced to steel prosthetics - I imagine that he lost both feet from being in one of those unprotected vehicles in Iraq. A bomb goes off and bam - his feet are gone. Apparently this is a very common thing. There will be a lot of returned vets with bits missing (most notably their minds and sense of ease in the world). It's like they've had their support blown out from under them. They certainly don't have the support of the US government and many will end up who knows where? It's too terrible... Posted by: Lynda Hill on December 10, 2006 10:42 PMFrank Rich strikes again and hits another bullseye! The Sunshine Boys Can’t Save Iraq By FRANK RICH 12/10/06 "New York Times" -- -- IN America we like quick fixes, closure and an uplifting show. Such were the high hopes for the Iraq Study Group, and on one of the three it delivered. The report of the 10 Washington elders was rolled out like a heartwarming Hollywood holiday release. There was a feel-good title, “The Way Forward,” unfortunately chosen as well by Ford Motor to promote its last-ditch plan to stave off bankruptcy. There was a months-long buildup, with titillating sneak previews to whip up anticipation. There was the gala publicity tour on opening day, starting with a President Bush cameo timed for morning television and building to a “Sunshine Boys” curtain call by James Baker and Lee Hamilton on “Larry King Live.” more http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article15861.htm Posted by: Shadowhawk on December 10, 2006 10:50 PMUS tapped Diana's phone calls at hotel, says report... More Widow's Past is Brought to Light... http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/who-really-bugged-diana/2006/12/10/1165685554021.html
Anniversary of Gary Webb's death....this is a story that has gone on since he broke the story of the CIA drugs and HUD scandal and got fired and ruined by the San Jose Merc. News....he got to close to the real story.... Robert Parry | Gary Webb's Death: American Tragedy Yes indeed. This is one of several horrible things that happened to investigative journalists. It's just one of the things that turned me into a dedicated blogger over the past several years. It's why I post so many articles rather than chat. Posted by: Pat C on December 11, 2006 12:44 AMLimiting Free Speech and the Internet: When the Oligarchy Loses Control The realization that they are losing control and are no longer able to dominate the debate has led Newt Gingrich, Donald Rumsfeld, and even George W. Bush to begin discussing the need to limit free speech -- usually linking it to nefarious and nonexistent "threats" -- and limiting access to the internet. Corporations are threatened by this new medium because it allows common people to counter moneyed influence and too, levels the information playing field. It is no longer a game of who has more money to spend on public relations, spin, and outright lies; with the internet it is simply a matter of who has the information. These powerful interests are beginning to realize that the internet amplifies the voices -- specifically Progressive voices -- that they had always been able to suppress through corporate media control. The Republican Party's "culture war" had, so it seemed, succeeded beyond their wildest dreams. They'd managed to capture nearly every lever of national, state, and regional governance. From the White House to the State House, Republicans and their pathetic "culture war" had taken over the American peoples' consciousness. And then it happened. The internet. True enough they usually try to link their desire of limiting free speech and internet access to "national security" issues, but the fact is that the internet and free speech are not threats to national security. They are a threat to the Oligarchic-wing of the Republican Party and its ability to maintain power and control. Combined, free speech and the internet have propelled Progressive ideas and policies to the forefront of the peoples' consciousness. As a result, people have begun to embrace those ideas and policies while rejecting the notion of a "culture war." Indeed, the reason powerful people are openly discussing the need to limit free speech and access to the internet is simple - America is returning to Her Progressive roots, and they don't like it. http://www.progressivedailybeacon.com/ Posted by: Pat C on December 11, 2006 01:34 AMEmbattled dynasty comes out fighting after predators attack New York Times The paper's controlling family faces a falling stock price and rising takeover talk. But it is adamant it won't sell http://observer.guardian.co.uk/business/story/0,,1968305,00.html Posted by: Pat C on December 11, 2006 01:53 AMThis is hysterical and I had to share. Tired of gloom and doom and this is a good belly laugh! http://www.cosmicrealms.com/blog/2006-10-3/ Posted by: Shadowhawk on December 11, 2006 02:32 AMSally: You should read Obama's two books, I think you'll like the guy. True he doesn't have the Kennedy cash, but he does represent the next thing. Obama Takes First Steps in N.H. He closed his speech here early Sunday night with words that seemed to signal growing interest in a campaign. “America is ready to turn the page,” he said. “America is ready for a new set of challenges. This is our time. A new generation is prepared to lead.” Posted by: Michael from NYC on December 11, 2006 07:07 AMLynda, i woke with that thought this morning. How many of those returning from Iraq will be able to live full lives? And what about those for whom injuries are not obvious? Those who suffer the nightmares, both sleeping and awake? I cannot imagine carrying the heavy luggage of karma -- filled with the deaths, dismemberments and nightmares of others. How would one ever negate such energy? Those who promote the war and its cause are truly characters out of a horror movie more gruesome than any Nightmare on Elm Street. The comic relief was a nice break from my dark thoughts, Shadowhawk. Thanks! Posted by: karen on December 11, 2006 01:14 PMWell,well! And here's the back story on the Worcester Wreath Company! BUT: Several weeks ago my Spanish English teaching, Bush Literacy Grant funded, Birthdate sharing friend, It seems that a rear end collision, with an illegal driving the car, had revealed that the wreath factory, is employing a lot of them, thus prompting a raid! ( The cement truck drivers were alerted by cell phone to "get lost" temporarily! CIA is undermining British war effort, say military chiefs Confidential report speaks of 'serious tensions' in the coalition over strategy in Iraq and Afghanistan 12/10/06 "The Independent" -- - - British intelligence officers and military commanders have accused the US of undermining British policies in Iraq and Afghanistan, after the sacking of a key British ally in the Afghan province of Helmand. British sources have blamed pressure from the CIA for President Hamid Karzai's decision to dismiss Mohammed Daud as governor of Helmand, the southern province where Britain deployed some 4,000 troops this year. Governor Daud was appointed in mid-year to replace a man the British accused of involvement in opium trafficking, but on Thursday Mr Karzai summoned him to Kabul and sacked him, along with his deputy. "The Americans knew Daud was a main British ally," one official told The Independent on Sunday, "yet they deliberately undermined him and told Karzai to sack him." The official said the Defence Secretary, Des Browne, was "tearing his hair out". Meanwhile, a confidential assessment of the situation in Iraq, seen by the IoS, has reported "serious tensions" in the American-British coalition. American commanders in the country are believed to oppose the British strategy for handing over Maysan and Basra provinces to Iraqi control as part of an exit strategy. The disclosures come only days after differences between the US and Britain were on display during Tony Blair's visit to Washington, and the Iraq Study Group issued a report containing withering criticism of President George Bush's policies. With British commanders warning that they may not be able to succeed in Afghanistan unless forces in Iraq are drawn down, cracks in the transatlantic alliance are likely to widen. The disagreements have come into the open after the summary sacking of Britain's protégé, Governor Daud. Although rival delegations from Helmand were in Kabul last week, one calling for his removal and the other demanding that he stay, a diplomatic source said Mr Karzai had listened to advice from "other powerful Western players". Mr Daud, who had survived several Taliban assassination attempts, was seen as a key player in Britain's anti-drugs campaign in Helmand. He was also the architect of a deal under which British forces moved out of the town of Musa Qala, where they had been involved in fierce combat with Taliban fighters. But the Americans publicly criticised truces in Musa Qala and other Helmand towns, saying they effectively gave in to the Taliban. A British diplomatic source said yesterday: "We backed Mohammed Daud because he was an honest man and a progressive man, so obviously this is very disappointing. However, it is also true that he was under tremendous pressure and his position was getting weakened. Where does this leave our policy? Well, we shall have to wait and see." The British commander of the Nato force in Afghanistan, Lieutenant-General David Richards, has also come in for American criticism as "too political". The American supreme commander of Nato, General Jim Jones, has let it be known, according to sources, that General Richards "would have been sacked if he had been an American officer". While the tensions between Britain and the US have burst into the open in Afghanistan, they have been simmering in Iraq. The confidential assessment of the situation there says American commanders want the British to be far more robust in confronting Shia militias in the south. Posted by: Pat C on December 11, 2006 02:46 PMThe New York Times | The Road to Reliable Elections http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/121106K.shtml "Two influential federal advisory groups have added their voices to an emerging national consensus that voting machines must produce a voter-verified paper record if they are to be trusted.... Their analyses should give further support to members of Congress who plan to push next month for a strong federal law requiring voter-verified paper records," says the New York Times. Posted by: Pat C on December 11, 2006 03:06 PMIs George Bush “The Manchurian Candidate?” If enemies of the United States had gotten together a few years ago to devise a plan to damage America and undermine its global position–diminish its power and credibility, drag it into a stubborn war, harm its relations with allies, create international financial disarray, run up huge deficits, create political openings for the Europeans and China to exploit and become equals in global economic matters, motivate terrorists, bring the U.S. image in the Middle East to its nadir, restrict civil liberties at home, and so forth–they would have been hard-pressed to create a program that would be more effective than the Bush administration’s policies on these issues of war, terrorism, and global economics have. Indeed, if one is an “enemy” of the U.S., then he/she would have to be heartened that Bush has pursued this agenda and would have to be elated that the war in Iraq continues today. Given enough rope, Bush may hang not only himself, but American influence and credibility, and the global economy. Like a “sleeper” agent, or Laurence Harvey’s famed character, Sgt. Raymond Shaw, in The Manchurian Candidate, George W. Bush, the ultimate insider, is doing more to damage America than Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, Hassan Nasrallah, the Syrians, the Iranians, or any other enemy du jour, ever could. ... .. http://hnn.us/articles/32618.html more news on Poppy's meltdown: SR. LOSES TRILLIONS IN NAKED SHORT MELTDOWN
http://iraqwar.mirror-world.ru/article/111710
• President George W. Bush Jr. And so all the "trillions" have gone... where? Do the little squiggles representing "money" disappear from out of the computers? Do the 50 some oligarchic families pull squiggles or actual paper thingies into their homes? Or have they stashed almost all the world's gold/silver bullion into their basements? Is it buried out in the desert or dropped into the deep blue sea in containers? Somebody help me out here! Posted by: JoannaOregon on December 11, 2006 04:15 PMOops...I posted this by mistake on the other thread..... I heard this song on the radio this morning and thought how appropriate for our times...From 1975... Suite Madame Blue Time after time I sit and I wait for your call Suite Madame Blue, gaze in your looking glass America....America...America..America.. Red white and blue, gaze in your looking glass
Suite Madame Blue is about the decline of America told using the analogy of a woman. It was written as a wake up call in 1975 as the American Bicentennial approached. Note the line "You conquered the world and more...heaven's door" referring to America's accomplishment of landing a man on the moon in 1969. The theme of this song was revived in 1980 as the basis of the concept behind the Paradise Theatre album. Posted by: Cybear on December 11, 2006 04:16 PMBoston Globe Dec 11 WASHINGTON -- Hundreds of thousands of Iraqis who have fled their homeland are likely to seek refugee status in the United States, humanitarian groups said, putting intense pressure on the Bush administration to reexamine a policy that authorizes only 500 Iraqis to be resettled here next year. The official US policy has been that the refugee situation is temporary and that most of the estimated 1.5 million who have fled to Jordan, Syria, and elsewhere will eventually return to Iraq. But US and international officials now acknowledge that the instability in Iraq has made it too dangerous for many refugees, especially Iraqi Christians, to return any time soon. Ellen Sauerbrey, assistant secretary of state for refugees and migration, said that while the Bush administration does not think resettlement is needed for most refugees, its policy could rapidly change. "It is quite possible that we will in time decide that because of vulnerabilities of certain populations that resettlement is the right option," Sauerbrey said. While acknowledging that the administration originally set a quota of no more than 500 Iraqi refugees, she said the president has the legal authority to admit 20,000 additional refugees. ..................... Arthur E. "Gene" Dewey, who was President Bush's assistant secretary of state for refugee affairs until last year, said that "for political reasons the administration will discourage" the resettlement of Iraqi refugees in the United States "because of the psychological message it would send, that it is a losing cause." http://www.boston.com/news/world/middleeast/articles/2006/12/11/iraqi_exodus_could_test_bush_policy Posted by: Pat C on December 11, 2006 04:24 PMI can't help it, Cybear... I just get this image of an elaborate dragqueen, not an actual "woman" at all. It's a whole heckovalot more accurate imo. Women-People as a whole have not been "allowed" to be many of the roles or games on the world stage as you know but must be "satisfied" with being deaf/dumb stage props... or suffer the consequences. Posted by: JoannaOregon on December 11, 2006 04:39 PMmy mind can't wrap itself around all of it yet, JoannaO, but apparently the Queen, (read here also: the Vatican), got the gold: "The United States General Accounting Office (GAO) has repeatedly demanded of the White House and Treasury Dept. that they stop stonewalling and explain the disappearance since September 2001 of major traunches of gold. which makes Kissinger's visit even more interesting:http://worldreports.org/news/35_as_we_predicted_on_2 So... the British queen & the Roman vatican have all the gold bullion? That's so Gr D trashy comic book is it not? Have we always had quarter-witted infants running whole countries?!?!! Is THAT the Truth of it all? Posted by: JoannaOregon on December 11, 2006 05:36 PMElaborate Dragqueen...That's too funny Joanna and probably true. I think they were kind of referring to Justice or Lady Liberty though. It's just a matter of time before women are equal players on the world board. Where are The Mothers Against War and Violence? Now that would be a nice global organization that might just do some good. Back in 2001 or so.........I dreamed that Fort Knox was empty! Back in 2001 or so.........I dreamed that Fort Knox was empty! There are several organizations like that & various ones for a long time (like the Women in Black), Cybear... they don't get any press tho. DUH. Posted by: JoannaOregon on December 11, 2006 07:00 PMWell, QOP... I have no doubt that your dream was correct. Wish your dream had then zero'd in on the "new location(s)"... you know, just for the fun of it. Posted by: JoannaOregon on December 11, 2006 07:03 PMThe Saudi's own everything and are behind everything. Have been since Nixon threw out the gold standard and replaced it with the Oil Standard. That's when Poppy and Big Oil started their rise to power. The Saudi's were worried about Iraq and that got us 9/11. Now they are worried about Iran. Connect all the dots and the stury will unfold. Posted by: Cybear on December 11, 2006 07:05 PMhttp://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/11/world/middleeast/11iraq.html?_r=1&oref=slogin Iraqi President Denounces U.S. Strategy on Security snip The Americans, Mr. Talabani said, “gathered them from the street regardless of their loyalty to the new Iraq, their capacity, their ability.” Posted by: Pat C on December 11, 2006 07:14 PMSorry for the double post??? Urge you to not miss this: http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/011500.php or this: http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/011499.php Posted by: shylurker on December 11, 2006 08:19 PMHas anyone seen the video "Loose Change"? From a press release just sent out by Barack Obama's Senate office: Obama to Make “Announcement” Prior to Monday Night Football WASHINGTON – U.S. Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) said that he will make an “announcement” tonight about an upcoming contest of great importance to the American people. Below is a portion of Obama’s “announcement,” which will air shortly before the start of Monday Night Football tonight on ESPN. “So tonight I’d like to put all the doubts to rest. And tonight, after a lot of thought and a good deal of soul-searching, I would like to announce to my hometown of Chicago and all of America that I’m ready…” To learn more, tune in tonight. Alas, it isn't to be. A source close to Senator Obama tells us it's all just a gag, that his "announcement" has nothing to do with Presidential politics. So what will Obama be announcing? Hint: It has something to do with the Chicago Bears, and the Senator's support for them. Stay tuned. http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/electioncentral/2006/dec/11/obama_to_announce_presidential_run_tonight Posted by: wv on December 11, 2006 09:12 PMHere's a quote I liked from Anthony (?) Cordesmann, which appeared at the end of a long Wash Post article about the Iraq Study Group's report: "The U.S. effectively sent a bull in to liberate a china shop [Iraq], and the Study Group now calls upon the U.S. to threaten to remove the bull if the shop doesn't fix the china." Posted by: Marcia on December 11, 2006 09:52 PM
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,1968965,00.html Posted by: wv on December 11, 2006 10:11 PMhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061211/ap_on_el_pr/gore2008 Yahoo: Gore chases Oscar nod, possible 2008 bid This Saturday Gore is hosting a network of 1,600 house parties across the country to watch and discuss his documentary, "An Inconvenient Truth," with the Democrat planning to address the gatherings by satellite hookup. The movie is on the short list of feature-length documentaries being considered for Oscar nominations. There is nothing earthshaking in the article, but it is hard to imagine a better platform to start a run for the Presidency from than an Oscar win for Best Documentary, exposing a grave threat to humanity. Posted by: Pat C on December 11, 2006 10:45 PMFound the above posted on Salon. The last sentence is from a poster named Ken, not me, but I agree with him. Posted by: Pat C on December 11, 2006 10:46 PMthis is a great thread to read about Obama: http://archpundit.com/blog/2006/12/07/now-getting-to-the-analysis-of-the-politics-of-the-presidential-nomination/#comment-7513 I found it 'cause Elizabeth Edwards posted on it. Posted by: Peg on December 11, 2006 11:36 PMCLEVELAND, Ohio (AP) -- Democratic Rep. Dennis Kucinich, who unsuccessfully ran for president in 2004, said Monday he is planning another bid because his party isn't pushing hard enough to end the Iraq war. And what's your reaction to this? shylurker, what a fascinating look at Pluto in Capricorn. The author was interesting and he made perfect sense to me. Thank you for the link! Those Pluto transits are transformational and the U.S.A. is going to have to go through some tremendous upheavels/changes in the years to come. It seems we will lose even more freedoms before things get better. He seemed to think it would not matter WHO was president until AFTER the Pluto transit is over. Posted by: Laurie on December 12, 2006 01:00 AMShylurker I was just getting ready to post Michael Lutin's astrological article on the next two decades. Michael is a good astrologer but and astrologers are very concerned as to the outcome of Pluto's first transit through Capricorn since 1770 and there is no doubt that problems with corporations will be front and center just as they were in the 1770's as will the severe restrictions placed on our fourfathers that drove this country to a revolution. Pluto in the 7th House of America's solar chart indicates power over us from someplace, and Pluto in America's natal 2nd house indicates a restructuring of our values. I am too hopeful an astrologer to believe that the worst will befall us, but we may think it's the worst because it will be different than what we've had. I just don't see it quite as dire as painted in this article, there are always balancing aspects Posted by: Sally on December 12, 2006 01:37 AMBy the way, the Constitution will be re-written Posted by: Sally on December 12, 2006 01:38 AMthat all fits in perfectly with what John Titor stated: America will be broken into 5 separate sections, and I'm already seeing that that's the way Iraq is going to go also, broken into sections. What goes around, comes around. Posted by: Peg on December 12, 2006 02:37 AMHi, Regular lurker here. Don't mean to distract from the discussion, but can I ask a personal question concerning comparative astrology? Thanks Seeker Posted by: seeker on December 12, 2006 02:50 AMMost importantly, Cap'n Sally, who will re-write the Constitution? We the People or those representing the corporations? That's where my deepest fear lies. Posted by: shylurker on December 12, 2006 02:52 AMAnd if you REALLY want to get creeped-out, go here: You're right Shylurker, I was creeped out. As far as who re-writes the Constitution, I believe it will ultimately be the people. In 1760 Pluto was on the Galactic Center and the Sons of Patriots was formed, not as a group to start a revolution, although they came to that, but as a negiotiating group to lift the onerous tax burdens imposed by England because of the East India Trade Companies (and there were several, nearly every European country had one) The Trade Companies were the umbrella for the mega corporations of that time. The Sons of the Patriots were marginally successful for a time and then things just kept getting worse until April 1775 when the first shot of the Revolutionary War was leveled at the British and the East India Trade Companies, the war was not over until 1783 when Pluto moved to Aquarius, the Constitution wasn't written until 1787 and adopted into law in 1789. Almost the entire time Pluto was in Capricorn, this country was trying to get the Trade Companies and Europe cut them some slack. I expect we will experience the same thing until we explode into a Revolution. The Constitution is very nearly gutted now, and still the beat goes on. It's already been re-written to support big business and I expect it to become more so. To answer your question the Constitution in effect today has the stamp of big business all over it, when it's rewritten it will be the people Posted by: Sally on December 12, 2006 04:22 AMCap'n Sally, you have lifted the heaviest fear from me. Just so long as We the People do the writing. Ah!!!!!!!! Posted by: shylurker on December 12, 2006 04:28 AMLutin's dates are a bit off. He listed 2015-19 for the Uranus-Pluto Square. I've always pegged it as seven exact hits over the course of 2012-15/16, a bit earlier, though the energy will certainly be evident throughout most of the decade, perhaps even as early as 2009, and as late as 2018. The US Pluto Return is in February 2022 at 27 Capricorn, but I suppose since Pluto is slow moving, the energy will also be evident for several years on either side of the exact hit. Very interesting note he made about Uranus and 29 Pisces. It probably will feel to many like the world is coming to an end. It won't, of course. But you can bet that there will be at least a few preachers taking their flocks to some mountaintop to wait for the rapture. Posted by: NEOBuckeye on December 12, 2006 04:50 AM2014-16 are also the years when Pluto will be opposing the US natal Sun (13 Cancer -- and interestingly enough, Bush's natal Sun AND the natal GOP sun, at 14 Cancer). If there is a time in which we face massive, concentrated opposition from enemies and opposing forces, it will likely be during the mid 2010s. Posted by: NEOBuckeye on December 12, 2006 04:56 AMI suspect that Uranus going into Aries in 2011 will result in a major bursting out into the open -- an explosive revolution -- of new technologies, particularly in alternative fuels and energy, but perhaps also nanotechnology, genetics, cloning, and other sciences that have already been in development, but surpressed by the present conservative/reactionary movement. These of course, will challenge the status quo ways and structures, represented by Pluto in Cap. The Uranus-Pluto Square will likely finalize the end of the OILigarchy's dominance of global/financial affairs... If that hasn't already taken place. If there's even a shred of truth on that Wanta story that Pat posted above, Bush Sr. and apparently Clinton as well are doing their darndest to bring about their own collective Waterloo. 2007 will certainly be a very eye-opening year, to say the least. Posted by: NEOBuckeye on December 12, 2006 05:15 AMMore stuff that has been stuffed down our throats and must be cast out for good and forever: Hey WV "Obama to Make “Announcement” Prior to Monday Night Football We don't get Monday Night Football tonight on ESPN in NZ. Dunno if that's a good or bad thing:-) I think I've upset a few people for being so pro Obama.
Obama-mania http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/news/archives/2006/12/12/welcome_to_obamamania.html His announcement last night before the football
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It would be almost politically suicidal for members of Congress to espouse a balanced position between Israel and Palestine, to suggest that Israel comply with international law or to speak in defence of justice or human rights for Palestinians. Very few would deign to visit the Palestinian cities of Ramallah, Nablus, Hebron, Gaza City or Bethlehem and talk to the beleaguered residents. http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,1970058,00.html Posted by: wv on December 12, 2006 11:17 AMHere's a quote I liked from Anthony (?) Cordesmann, which appeared at the end of a long Wash Post article about the Iraq Study Group's report: "The U.S. effectively sent a bull in to liberate a china shop [Iraq], and the Study Group now calls upon the U.S. to threaten to remove the bull if the shop doesn't fix the china." Posted by: Marcia on December 12, 2006 11:21 AMhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,,329660017-103677,00.html Routine and systematic torture is at the heart of America's war on terror
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Last week, defence lawyers acting for José Padilla, a US citizen detained as an "enemy combatant", released a video showing a mission fraught with deadly risk - taking him to the prison dentist. A group of masked guards in riot gear shackled his legs and hands, blindfolded him with black-out goggles and shut off his hearing with headphones, then marched him down the prison corridor. http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,1970086,00.html Posted by: wv on December 12, 2006 11:38 AM
Pastor Quits After Revealing Same-Sex Relations The resignation of the pastor, the Rev. Paul Barnes, from the pulpit of the 2,100-member Grace Chapel megachurch in Englewood came by way of a tearful, 32-minute videotaped address to his congregation. His departure occurred a month after the Rev. Ted Haggard quit as president of the National Association of Evangelicals and senior pastor of New Life Church in Colorado Springs when a former male prostitute disclosed that Mr. Haggard had had a sexual relationship with him. Dave Palmer, the associate pastor of Grace Chapel, told The Post that the church received a call last week from a person who had overheard someone speak of “blowing the whistle” on other evangelical ministers in clandestine homosexual relationships, among them Mr. Barnes. Mr. Palmer then spoke with Mr. Barnes. A spokeswoman for Grace Chapel said that church leaders had declined to comment further. A statement issued by the church on Sunday said that Mr. Barnes, who founded Grace Chapel 28 years ago, had confessed to infidelity; it did not mention homosexuality. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/12/us/12resign.html?_r=1&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print Posted by: wv on December 12, 2006 11:41 AM
Time to Offshore Our Troops THE Iraq Study Group’s recommendation that the United States withdraw its combat forces from Iraq reflects a growing national consensus that our military cannot quell the violence there and may even be making matters worse. Although many are hailing this recommendation as a bold new course, it is not bold enough. America will best serve its interests in the Persian Gulf by withdrawing its ground-based military forces not only from Iraq, but from the entire region. Critics of the report continue to debate the wisdom and details of a drawdown in Iraq, but there has been no debate about America’s broader strategy in the gulf. Policymakers and analysts from across the political spectrum assume that the United States must maintain a robust military presence there. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/12/opinion/12press.html?pagewanted=print Posted by: wv on December 12, 2006 12:12 PMOoooh. Now, why would he do that? Saudis gettin' upset or somethin'? Posted by: shylurker on December 12, 2006 03:16 PMSorry--I have no idea why that Cordesmann quote also showed up today. I just posted it on the 11th, and only once. Hope it doesn't keep turning up. Posted by: Marcia on December 12, 2006 04:37 PMpretty interesting about the Saudi ambassador, especially after Cheney just went over there. These guys have some real power struggles going on. Morgana, I sent you an e-mail. Posted by: Peg on December 12, 2006 05:16 PMI just posted about this on Starlight News - but did you guys notice that Kuccinich is running again in 08? I am very, very pleased about him having a platform for his ideas again and he is one of the most special leaders we have today. Posted by: Sharon on December 12, 2006 05:19 PMIf you read far enough down the posts, Peg, you'll note that he supposedly resigned from some position or other just a few days before 9/11. Brrrrrrrr. Also, can you imagine all that's going on what with the Oval Office pushing for the Shiites and Iran cheering for the Shiites, and ol' Oil Slick Baker has the Saudis as law clients and the Saudis are pushing the Sunnis, and . . . . Makes my head swim. I hope Cap'n Sally can straighten it all out for us. Posted by: shylurker on December 12, 2006 05:27 PMKuccinich doesn't have the charisma of an Obama, or the timeliness of being the first African American candidate from a major party (female works well, too) - but he is one sound, progressive individual. I like what I know of Obama very much but I don't see him ready yet, nor do I see Edwards as being exactly ready or qualified, even though I like him, too. On the other hand, once someone catches on because they bring to the table something new, deeper, identifiable with the common man (Carter, Clinton, even Bush - although with him it was grasping at straws), they do seem to grow before your very eyes into presidential material. I will look into Obama's books. I think he seems a little flimsy right now. I just ready on one of the blogs (maybe here?) that someone thought the Republicans would more or less destroy him - I'm sure they have the ability to try to destroy anyone but I don't see anything about Obama yet that raises that red flag. Posted by: Sharon on December 12, 2006 05:29 PMI didn't realize this or forgot it but it is IMPORTANT that Congress learns it much more than I do. We're all missed the boat somewhere. Who Makes Foreign Policy? In each instance, it is assumed that the president will make Iraq policy. I'm not talking about the details of actual military operations in Iraq; I'm talking about the broader policy questions of how long our troops will stay, how many will stay, and how victory will be defined. more http://www.antiwar.com/paul/?articleid=10147 Posted by: Shadowhawk on December 12, 2006 05:51 PMSharon, i'm so darned excited that Kucinich is running again. By dialogue alone, he elevates this presidential race. Check out his website and read what the new Mrs. Kucinich says about being a Libra! It's http://www.kucinich.us Posted by: karen on December 12, 2006 08:12 PMso, Wolfowitz has destroyed the World Bank already: http://www.rawstory.com/showoutarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theage.com.au%2Fnews%2Fbusiness%2Fwolfowitz-in-firing-line-as-world-bank-faces-mass-exodus%2F2006%2F12%2F12%2F1165685680622.html I bet there's no money left anywhere except in the hands of the power brokers. Posted by: Peg on December 12, 2006 10:49 PMSally, perhaps the motivation for the constitution change that you see might be the foreign policy authority focus. On another note, did you hear that Fiji is currently under martial law? - another coup - this time by the Military Commander. My gut tells me it started with him trying to protect the people of Fiji from outside big business influences, but he's being painted as "delusional" by the media and I am certain that current global economic realities will force him to lose in some manner. Sure would be interesting to find a chart for Fiji and ask your expert opinion. His wife is so lovely, Karen, look at that hair. I read his biography and it is so impressive. He is a real force for good in the world and he has guts. Posted by: Sharon on December 13, 2006 12:58 AMHi kiwijeanie I have a chart for Fiji - Fiji Independance chart set for Oct 10 1970 at midnight (giving 7+ Cancer on the ascendant and 15 Libra 17 Sun). This chart is very telling... Fiji has had a lot of problems with political stability for several years now. The Sun at Libra 16 has the Sabian Symbol of A Boat Landing Washed Away... so interesting, there must be thousands of 'boat landings' in Fiji - and this degree shows the constant need to get out one's tools and rebuild in some way. Constant 'storms' will be a feature, as they certainly have. The Moon is on Aquarius 3: A Deserter From the Navy - which seems to show further political instability... This whole chart is very interesting... Mercury is on Libra 3: The Dawn of a New Day Reveals Everything Changed, which is a great degree, but can lead to instability, again, when one would prefer to have things predictable. The progressed Moon is currently on Gemini 10: An Airplane Performing a Nosedive... this can be very difficult, expecially in the realms of trying to keep or regain control of a situation that is plummeting. Someone, obviously, really needs to take hold of the reins (reigns? :) ) Also, the progressed Sun is currently on Scorpio 22: Hunter Shooting Wild Ducks... it's a wonder the situation hasn't gotten more nasty with that degree around. About 18 months or so ago, the progressed Sun moved onto Scorpio 21: A Soldier Going Absent Without Leave. They sure are dealing with upheavals. Also, the progressed Mercury is on Sag 3: Two Men Playing Chess. Chess, of course, being the game where individuals try to 'knock one another off the board'. Saturn is on TAurus 19: A New Continent Arising from the Ocean. That Saturn, along with other factors, I believe is one of the keys to it beign so hard for Fiji to self actualise. They're also experiencing Pluto square Pluto - with their Pluto being at Virgo 28: A Bald Headed Man in Uniform Has Seized Power. Yep, military coups - they've had a few! I do hope they find some peace and a way forward. Indeed, friends of mine are supposed to be going tomorrow, but the Australian travel advisory is to not go there. This is so unfair for all those people in the country that rely on tourism. Progressed Mars is currently on Libra 17: A Retired Sea Captain - people sitting around, wanting to work but having to just sit and watch and observe. It will next traverse Libra 18: Two Men Placed Under Arrest and then Libra 19: A Gang of Robbers in Hiding. Urk... I hope they get their Mars issues together, along with that Pluto sorted! Thanks for directing my attention to this chart, kiwijeanie - it's a very interesting one... there's more to say, but then there always is! Posted by: Lynda Hill on December 13, 2006 12:59 AMWOW! Iam so glad to have read about Fiji on here. My kids and maybe I are going to Australia next month, and the choices of going included through Fiji, which they were leaning towards. Wow. Posted by: Peg on December 13, 2006 01:24 AMHi, If anyone has the time to answer a question concerning Comparative Astrolgy (Western vs Vedic vs Chinese) could you contact me off-list? Thanx Seeker Posted by: seeker on December 13, 2006 01:36 AMA couple of years ago Kiwijeanne, Fiji (taking Lynda's date) had Uranus going over their North Node indicating a new period of instability, now Saturn is squaring their Saturn/Venus opposition creating restrictions and frustrations. I don't see their problems ending for a year or so. I agree with you the Military is kind of sort of trying to "clean" Fiji government up from their corruption but I don't think the new Military Commander has the skill to do so and I don't think this coup was well thought out. In about 18 months there could be a coup of the coup. As to the Saudi Prince sudden resignation from the Ambassador to the US there are some interesting posts from DU under the article. Shylurker is right, there is something scary about this and GWB is wandering around on his 4 year too late fact finding tour trying to buy himself some time. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2649199 Posted by: Sally on December 13, 2006 01:46 AMFeingold, Baker,Hamilton: And a jolly play of grand cardinal crosses! How fitting a clash it is. Hey WV thanks for letting me know the outcome of Obama's appearance Thanks so much Linda and Sally for your responses re Fiji. Very interesting. Seems so much of the south pacific is in turmoil at the moment - problems in Tonga too. Capt. Cook's voyage of 'discovery' was in the same time period as the leadup to the declaration of independence in america - I wonder how the Pluto return might affect the south pacific island nations? Biggest threat right now is rising seas due to global warming. Kiwi,on October 6, 1769 when Cook reached New Zealand, Pluto was at 13 Capricorn and squaring a 13 degree Libra, so that will be pretty interesting when Pluto hits that. What happened in 1976/77 when Pluto was at 13 Libra? The secret love of my life would be Henry Waxman at this point because Henry has all the buried bodies in triplicate. He said the biggest challenge he had was picking which thing to do first. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061212/ap_on_go_co/profile_waxman_3 Posted by: Sally on December 13, 2006 06:17 AMCongress Demands Anthrax Probe Answers Thirty-three members of Congress have written Attorney General Alberto Gonzales demanding that the FBI update lawmakers on the investigation into the anthrax attacks five years ago that paralyzed the nation with bio-terror fears. The bipartisan letter escalates efforts by Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, and Rep. Rush Holt, D-N.J., to get the FBI to tell lawmakers what it has learned during the five-year case that remains unsolved. The FBI has refused, citing concerns about possible leaks. The lawmakers said any leakers of prior information about the anthrax case inside the FBI or Congress should be punished but that such concerns do not justify keeping information from lawmakers so they could perform their required oversight of the FBI's performance. The case remains unsolved five years later. "As an institution, Congress cannot be cut-off from detailed information about the conduct of one of the largest investigations in FBI history," the lawmakers wrote. "That information is vital in order to fulfill its Constitutional responsibility to conduct oversight." The letter is signed by members of both parties and members of both chambers of Congress including the outgoing chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa. Sen. Patrick Leahy, the panel's top Democrat and its next chairman, was one of the targets of the attacks in fall of 2001, getting an anthrax-filled letter sent to his office. http://tinyurl.com/ymbrl6 -Newswire Posted by: Pat C on December 13, 2006 03:16 PM
TOP-LEVEL INSIDERS SELLING THEIR STOCK December 7, 2006 -- America's corporate chiefs are unloading their own stocks at one of the boldest paces in 20 years. In cases of the very rich, such as Microsoft's Bill Gates and Google's top brass, the executives are selling a whopping $63 for each $1 of stock they bought, says a report by Bloomberg. In November alone, leaders of public companies dumped $8.4 billion worth of stock they owned as insiders, most of it awarded as compensation, bonuses or other management incentives. But the vast majority of the executives put their windfall cash to work elsewhere, with just $133 million being plowed back into purchases of more company stock. Analysts say a take-the-money-and-run flight from their own companies signals a growing lack of confidence in the economy's future course, as well as fears of a possible global meltdown if the Iraq crisis escalates across borders. It's also a good time to take profits, with the Dow Jones industrial average up nearly 15 percent this year, the S&P 500 ahead 13 percent, and the Nasdaq 11 percent higher.
Just before the worst of the 2000 recession, insider sales were also at a near record. Leading the latest wave of insider selling is Microsoft, with $594.2 million of stock sold by insiders during November, with Gates unloading $581.1 million. Gates has been selling shares regularly - including $2.1 billion last year - as he whittles down his once mammoth stake, putting a big chunk of his wealth to work in a not-for-profit foundation that invests in a wide range of securities and other deals. Billionaire Paul Allen also sold off 28 percent of his stake last month in DreamWorks Animation SKG for $224.2 million, keeping about 21 million shares. Insiders at Seagate sold $311.8 million in November, while Google insiders unloaded $182.1 million in the four weeks. Google's CEO Eric Schmidt and its co-founders Sergey Brin and Larry Page have usually led the insider-selling parade with sales of hundreds of millions as the stock rose steadily to break the $500 mark.
Jason Leopold | Army Targets Truthout for Subpoenas in Watada Case http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/121306J.shtml In a case that cuts right to the heart of the First Amendment, a US Army prosecutor has indicated he intends to subpoena Truthout Executive Director Marc Ash, a Truthout reporter, and two of the nonprofit news organization's regular contributors, to authenticate news reports they produced and edited earlier this year that quoted an Army officer criticizing President Bush and the White House's rationale for the Iraq War. Posted by: Pat C on December 13, 2006 04:04 PM
Just one of the words or phrases of which I'm heartily sick is "profits" or "profit-taking"... profits, profits, profits, profits. If I say it enuf times, it totally loses its meaning... probably its real status. Posted by: JoannaOregon on December 13, 2006 04:54 PM
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,1970868,00.html Posted by: wv on December 13, 2006 05:10 PM
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Amir Peretz, the defence minister, on Sunday became the latest Israeli politician to advocate reviving the Saudi plan, which envisages a return to the 1967 borders in exchange for a comprehensive settlement between Israel and Arab League countries. http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldbriefing/story/0,,1970735,00.html Posted by: wv on December 13, 2006 05:18 PMAs a follow-up to the Anthrax post and Patrick Leahy's involvement, he just said on C-span that in this and other investigations that are on-going, Gonzeles will be called to testify and will be under oath and "I don't know or we'll get back to you" will not be acceptable. This year's inconjuncts from Pluto and Aquarius to GWB Cancer and 12th house, plus Uranus inconjuncts to his Leo and first house is going to make it a very difficult year for him with scandals leaking out. I should say "more scandals." As difficult as these next two years will be for him, the two years after he leaves office will be worse. Posted by: Sally on December 13, 2006 05:43 PMFor just him or for us as well? Posted by: Teresa on December 13, 2006 06:32 PMhttp://apnews.myway.com/article/20061213/D8M03L1O4.html Fla. Senator Defies Bush, Visits Syria In a direct affront to the Bush administration, a Democratic senator spent an hour Wednesday with Syrian President Bashar Assad in Damascus, asking him to do more to stabilize Iraq. More… Posted by: Pat C on December 13, 2006 06:41 PMSally, Do tell! Does it look like he might have to face trials after he leaves?! Will he be feeling persecuted?! Put upon?! Will he be in confinement, like prison or a nut house?! Posted by: lunaoscura on December 13, 2006 06:50 PMHi Sally, EXCELLENT article once again; and a couple of things to say after reading all the comments....remember when Colin Powell 'resigned' ? One of the things he told Chimp was that if he went into Iraq it would be the chinashop type of thing....'you break it, you own it'...well, he sure knew where all of it was going. And the Pluto/Capricorn thing, the trials of the USA financially...I've just come out of (actually, not quite yet) 12 years of Pluto in my second house (Sag) transit....and lost all my property, my profession (twice) and all my savings for the future, I was in bankruptcy and lost my credit and my home. I don't know who brought up the Pluto/Cap/2nd house thing, but that is my personal experience. I heard Barak Obama on Ed Shultz show Monday, and he is a Bears fan. But he will be making an announcement by end of year about whether he will run. He has a marvelous voice...(might someone look at his chart for that?) Like Clinton's hands, it is something you notice immediately. He is smart too... Here is a good interview with a man named GaryRenard on the nature of reality....about how we project our realities onto the world...certainly what this group of men have done, as it has been so well explained in Sally's piece. And so, since the beginning back in 2002/03, political columnistTed Rall had said it is all about the oil and the Saudis. He was dropped from many newspapers for his stand...but of course, he always was right. At least Ted Rall didn't end up a suicide like Gary Webb. Posted by: judiGem on December 13, 2006 07:02 PMforgot the link....http://www.bleepingherald.com/dec2006/gary-renard?page=0%2C1 Posted by: judiGem on December 13, 2006 07:03 PMSomeone finally stands up. http://salon.com/news/feature/2006/12/13/weinstein/ "These people should be court-martialed" Former Air Force officer Mikey Weinstein says evangelicals are trying to turn his beloved military into a "frickin' faith-based initiative." Posted by: Pat C on December 13, 2006 07:44 PMVery nice link Judi. Posted by: Pat C on December 13, 2006 07:45 PMThe Democrats are serious about controlling earmarks. How serious, you ask? Byrd to give up W.Va. projects Byrd, incoming chairman of the Senate Appropriations Committee, and his House counterpart Rep. David Obey of Wisconsin outlined their plan late Monday to pass a yearlong stopgap spending bill to keep government programs and agencies functioning until Sept. 30, 2007. To expedite the process, Byrd and Obey said they would eliminate earmarks -- funding inserted into bills by lawmakers for projects in their district or states -- from the unfinished budget. more... http://www.herald-dispatch.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2006612130325 Posted by: Pat C on December 13, 2006 07:57 PM
Nation All Things Considered, December 11, 2006 · A military watchdog group is asking the Pentagon whether senior uniformed officers had permission to appear in a video endorsing an evangelical Christian group. The Christian Embassy is an evangelical missionary group focused on government workers in Washington, DC. The group's recent promotional video features endorsements from several prominent military officers. In response, another group, the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, is preparing a possible class-action lawsuit against the Pentagon for what lawyer Michael Weinstein calls "the creation of a theocracy, of a particular fundamentalist perspective within our own military branches." The foundation says a core of evangelicals are gaining influence at the Pentagon, and violating military policies. It cites Wednesday-morning prayer sessions in the Pentagon's executive dining room, which features speakers from the Christian Embassy. The Pentagon released a statement Monday insisting it does not endorse any religious viewpoint or organization. But the Defense Department also promised to review the promotional video. In it, Brig. Gen. Vince Brooks and seven other uniformed officers endorse the Christian Embassy.
Bush is seriously considering sending more troops to Iraq, Posted by: Pat C on December 13, 2006 11:10 PMjudiGem,
By Sadiq H. Wasfi, Ph.D and Dahlia S. Wasfi, M.D. No human being, regardless of race, creed, skin color, ethnicity, or religion, accepts humiliation and subjugation. As such, our military death toll will grow until the day when the rape and pillage of the "New American Century" ends and the troops come home. How much more agony should we force the children of Iraq and America to take. === By HELENE COOPER Saudi Arabia has told the Bush administration that it might provide financial backing to Iraqi Sunnis in any war against Iraq's Shiites if the United States pulls its troops out of Iraq, according to American and Arab diplomats. === By Pepe Escobar Washington at large and President George W Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney in particular may apply every contortionist trick in the geopolitical book to save their skins in Iraq - and the reasons are not entirely political. Posted by: wv on December 14, 2006 12:36 AM
Defense Department Asked to Examine Officers' Acts Supporting Christian Group In this video, much of which was filmed inside the Pentagon, four generals and three colonels praise the Christian Embassy, a group that evangelizes among military leaders, politicians and diplomats in Washington. Some of the officers describe their efforts to spread their faith within the military. 12/13/06 Runtime 14 Minutes CLICK PLAY TO VIEW
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An Insane presidency By Gnarly Erik What can you do when your country's president is certifiable? In the United States we have no method to address an insane president except to assess the his 'Inability' to discharge his duties. Impeachment is reserved for "Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors" - which seemingly will also fit this president in spades. We can only hope the leaders of all political parties can and will find the courage to confront our current presidential insanity before it's too late. George W. Bush, the omnipotent, all-knowing 'War President' is in total denial and has proven manifestly unable to accept any advice or opinions contrary to his own, no matter the source. This From the San Francisco Chronicle: http://72.5.214.25/articles/opedne_erik_lie_061210_an_insane_presidency.htm The Great Wealth Transfer It's the biggest untold economic story of our time: more of the nation's bounty held in fewer and fewer hands. And Bush's tax cuts are only making the problem worse Posted by: Pat C on December 14, 2006 02:50 AMRaven, JudiG...Pluto is running amuck through my 2nd house now and I feel like I am being turned upside down and inside out. Posted by: Cybear on December 14, 2006 03:08 AMIf this (London) Times correspondent has got it right. "Inept Democrats face failure with poor start in Congress And I too have been wondering. "At some point, Democrats will have to say what they think should be done in Iraq, if they are to look capable of winning elections, rather than accepting victory handed to them by a losing president. It wouldn’t hurt, when they do that, if they were fluent in the difference betwen Sunni and Shia." So went looking for more on Nancy Pelosi Found this passage comforting in that, if the writer/astrologer is correct, it appears she's got the right stuff to succeed in her unenviable task "Here is a person who has gone through all the trials of the awkward transits of Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune, with her strength of personality. One tough cookie. The United States has a great woman in charge" Posted by: Stan on December 14, 2006 03:51 AMPluto through my 6th house hasn't exactly been a barrel of laughs either! Basically I lost my work! That was my immediate thought pat. Posted by: Pat C on December 14, 2006 04:19 AMPat QP, Raven, Cybear....we've all got Pluto somewhere, no? Raven, 49 is considered to be one of the most difficult in life....don't ask me why, but it seems to work that way; that is exactly when my trials started. Now I am 63. But I have to say, ya'll, that I am a happier person today....Pluto is transforming us for a reason, don't you think? (lets take the transpersonal view that we are always working on a level that is beyond even what we think is this life) Don't give up....when you do the work of figuring it all out, Pluto also brings rewards...even if they are not quite what you thought it would be. Posted by: judiGem on December 14, 2006 04:25 AMhttp://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/1030-04.htm Nice story on the Kucinich marriage Posted by: Pat C on December 14, 2006 04:35 AMPat C, re your posting about the great wealth transfer - its not just in the US, its global. Today downunder the big news is a takeover bid for an Australian icon, Quantas Airlines. My ears pricked up when I heard that a private equity company named "Texas Pacific Group" was involved. Makes a person go, hmmmmmmmm. Of course impossible to learn who is involved because its a 'private equity' entity. But perhaps "Texas Pacific" is a dead giveaway. Seems they have been busily buying up all sorts of things in recent years. Including Goldman Sachs, who just issued xmas bonuses to high level employees amounting to around 680K per person http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Pacific_Group Posted by: kiwijeanie on December 14, 2006 05:33 AMEason Jordon has started this website! http://www.iraqslogger.com/ Randi Rhodes' analysis of why Bush wont (cant) get out of Iraq: Saudis summoned cheney to SA to tell him: If US gets out of iraq, SA (i) will be forced to pour all their resources (army and $$$) behind the Sunnis (which make up the majority of most of US "allies" in ME including SA, but only 20% of Iraq) and (2) in order to vanquish the Shia who represent the majority in Iran, SA will have to bankrupt iran by over producing oil and driving down price of oil. So the word in cheneys ear is: if you pull out, say goodbye to all the oil profits the bushies and the oil companies have enjoyed since the war began. Interesting analysis. Pulling out beginning to look like a no lose. Posted by: on December 14, 2006 01:10 PMKiwijeannie, you are absolutely right. It is global. They are gutting the planet. Posted by: Pat C on December 14, 2006 01:31 PMThanks for finding that story about Kuchinich, Pat C that is beautiful! http://www.iraqslogger.com/ Oh gosh jeanie, I hope you'll pardon my spelling of your name. I was not quite awake. It's my only excuse. Posted by: Pat C on December 14, 2006 02:09 PMVery nice link Pat! Posted by: Pat C on December 14, 2006 02:21 PMSaw this posted on another site. “The rumor is that Gordon Smith may pull a Jeffords if the Senate switches back. Maybe hopeful thinking, may be that he faces a tough reelection in Oregon as a Republican." Posted by: on December 14, 2006 02:47 PMIsn't it just amazing how the Bush family keeps lucking out?! http://www.consortiumnews.com/2006/121106.html Pinochet's Death Spares Bush Family By Robert Parry Gen. Augusto Pinochet’s death on Dec. 10 means the Bush Family can breathe a little bit easier, knowing that criminal proceedings against Chile’s notorious dictator can no longer implicate his longtime friend and protector, former President George H.W. Bush. Share this article Although Chilean investigations against other defendants may continue, the cases against Pinochet end with his death of a heart attack at the age of 91. Pinochet’s death from natural causes also marks a victory for world leaders, including George H.W. and George W. Bush, who shielded Pinochet from justice over the past three decades. The Bush Family’s role in the Pinochet cover-up began in 1976 when then-CIA Director George H.W. Bush diverted investigators away from Pinochet’s guilt in a car bombing in Washington that killed political rival Orlando Letelier and an American, Ronni Moffitt. The cover-up stretched into the presidency of George W. Bush when he sidetracked an FBI recommendation to indict Pinochet in the Letelier-Moffitt murders. Posted by: lunaoscura on December 14, 2006 03:19 PMhttp://americablog.blogspot.com/2006/12/johnson-recovering-without.html Johnson "recovering without complication." Family is "encouraged and optimistic" Posted by: Pat C on December 14, 2006 04:02 PMJohn McCain’s War On Blogs Now he has introduced legislation that would treat blogs like Internet service providers and hold them responsible for all activity in the comments sections and user profiles. Some highlights of the legislation: – Commercial websites and personal blogs “would be required to report illegal images or videos posted by their users or pay fines of up to $300,000.” – Internet service providers (ISPs) are already required to issue such reports, but under McCain’s legislation, bloggers with comment sections may face “even stiffer penalties” than ISPs. — Social networking sites will be forced to take “effective measures” — such as deleting user profiles — to remove any website that is “associated” with a sex offender. Sites may include not only Facebook and MySpace, but also Amazon.com, which permits author profiles and personal lists, and blogs like DailyKos, which allows users to sign up for personal diaries. Kevin Bankston of the Electronic Frontier Foundation notes that this proposal may be based more “on fear or political considerations rather than on the facts.” When he introduced his legislation to the Senate, McCain offered no evidence that children are being victimized by people who post comments on blogs. McCain’s legislation could deal a serious blow to the blogosphere. Lacking resources to police their sites, many individual blogs may have to shut down open discussion. http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/13/mccain-war-on-blogs/ Posted by: Pat C on December 14, 2006 04:21 PMNorth American online casino gamblers constitute 48 percent of the overall Online Casinos Extreme gambling business and research indicates that this might shrink to 36 percent by 2010. Posted by: ciscoblog25 on December 14, 2006 06:19 PMMcCain cannot take the heat that Delay got when he got himself a blog. Most of the comments just let it all hang out and cussed Delay up and down, left and right, backwards and forwards. Here's the link, enjoy! http://www.tomdelaydotcom.blogspot.com/ btw, frig you McCain and that horse you rode in on. Posted by: bhakti on December 14, 2006 07:16 PMToo bad about Pinochet kicking the bucket, but I don't think the Bushes are out of the woods by a long shot. Bush Sr. might have gotten away with a whole lot more had he discouraged his offspring from entering politics. Narcissism is clearly that family's undoing. Posted by: NEOBuckeye on December 14, 2006 07:46 PMPatC - no spelling apologies needed :) Hi Peg, judiG,cybear,PatQP, thank you Ladies, it's been decided that they/ we are going via L.A. to Sydney, with no stop in Fiji. My kids found another route. I sure appreciate the advice :)
Raven, well, I am glad it is getting better for you...my 40th was no picnic, but my 40's were OK, I made lots of money. But then at 47, lost my career. That was just the beginning. What I meant about being happier is subjective of course. But I think it was about transformation of what was important to me, to my life. So perhaps that is what America is in for....finding its core values, and saying hey, we don't have to ALWAYS be money grubbing bottomline loving money maniacs. After all, there is ART! Posted by: judigem on December 15, 2006 03:18 AMHow different our experiences are. Pluto through my 5th house was very creative for me and my art was growing. There was enough money to sustain. (Not amass) It was at the base of my saturn 23 aries,sq mars 23 cap.,sq pluto 29 cancer( 2nd) I was self actualized and calling the shots, the clients let me determine what I would do for them.It all fell apart 4 months after pluto moved into scorpio............ http://salon.com/opinion/conason/2006/12/15/lieberman/ The Lieberman maneuver Regardless of Sen. Tim Johnson's health, Bush could easily hand the Senate back to the GOP -- by appointing the Connecticut senator to fill Bolton's slot at the U.N. .............. http://www.newyorker.com/talk/content/articles/061218ta_talk_hertzberg STUDIES SAY Well I'm finallly done with a very challenging semester, so now a little free moment allows me to jump in on this Pluto discussion. I had Pluto square Sun in 1990 and it certainly was a very difficult year. Years later I was watching a story on tv about the JonBenet Ramsey case and the video of her tombstone revealed she was born on my birthday (Aug 6) of that year. Thus I knew she was born with that square and that got me curious to see the rest of her chart. When I found the data online (Aug 6, 1990, 11:56 am, Atlanta) I found the most difficult chart I have ever seen. Now I know many of you have seen thousands more charts than I, but have you seen many charts more difficult than hers? She was born about two hours before a lunar eclipse, and had Pluto in close opposition to Mars, closely square to that eclispe--thus a fixed grand cross with Sun, Moon, Mars, and Pluto. Posted by: Timothy on December 15, 2006 05:11 AMHi, Basic question - How does one tell where Pluto is in your chart at any point in time? Thanks Mars Posted by: Mars on December 15, 2006 11:02 AMMars, Pluto is in Sagittarius at 26 degrees. Find that sign and degree in your birth chart and you'll know which house it's in. But you'll have to get your current transits to find out how it's aspecting the other planets and angles in your chart. You can either buy astrology software or get an astrologer to give you your yearly transits. Posted by: lunaoscura on December 15, 2006 02:13 PMMars, you do a progressed chart of your own natal chart. Depending on the date you provide for the progressed chart it will place Pluto and all the other planets where they are on that day. Here is a site where you can go and do that for free. Posted by: Pat C on December 15, 2006 02:14 PMOoops cross post with lunaoscura. Posted by: Pat C on December 15, 2006 02:15 PMThanks for the replies and info Pat C and Luna! Posted by: Mars on December 15, 2006 02:23 PMMars, you're most welcome. It's interesting and helpful info to have on hand. Posted by: Pat C on December 15, 2006 03:13 PM
Randeep Ramesh in New Delhi Guardian If marriages are made in heaven, the angels must have been busy for weeks. Last night was wedding night for 30,000 couples in Delhi after Hindu astrologers declared December 13 the last auspicious day to "circle the fire" for a month. But the rush to get hitched at this time of year is not universally appreciated. Software companies have complained that staff attempt to take their holidays all in one go, leaving projects unmanned. http://www.guardian.co.uk/india/story/0,,1971566,00.html Posted by: wv on December 15, 2006 03:34 PMSomeone posted this over on Salon, and it's completely off topic, except to say she posted it in the "George W Bush, Public Enemy Number One" thread. Heh. It gave me moments of laughing out loud. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3UDCoQnXjA Posted by: Pat C on December 15, 2006 09:32 PMDear Sally: Great article and confirms many of my own perceptions having listened to numerous programs on the ISG and trying to read in between the lines. I will have to take you literally when you comment in your last sentence that who ever initiated the Iraq Study Group was a sheep in wolf's clothing and that you really don't know who it was so I will mention it. It's funny and ironic how his name is wolf too. It was the idea of Rep. Frank Wolf, R-Va., age 67 Hi all, Posted by: Raven on December 15, 2006 10:52 PM They are bound and determined to get rid of the internet since it really, really gets under their skin with all its truth and exposure of lies! It's back to writing and calling about Net Neutrality! McCain Bill Is Lethal Injection For Internet Freedom Paul Joseph Watson Republican Senator John McCain has introduced legislation that would fine blogs up to $300,000 for offensive statements, photos and videos posted by visitors on comment boards, effectively nixing the open exchange of ideas on the Internet, providing a lethal injection for unrestrained opinion, and acting as the latest attack tool to chill freedom of speech on the world wide web. McCain's proposal, called the "Stop the Online Exploitation of Our Children Act," encourages informants to shop website owners to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, who then pass the information on to the relevant police authorities. http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2006/151206mccainbill.htm Posted by: Shadowhawk on December 15, 2006 11:00 PMFor those who have been following the Pluto discussion, you might enjoy this article and the related ones below it. From P Glass on Salon: Today the Independent put on line the complete statement on Iraq that Downing Street has fought for years to keep from the public. It is damning. Read it. The full transcript of evidence given to the Butler inquiry Published: 15 December 2006 http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/article2076142.ece [Att: Senator Leahy] Read the transcript above and then this article also in the Independent about its author, Whistleblower that ministers tried to muzzle About Face: Soldiers Call for Iraq Withdrawal Appeal for Redress Political Bloggers Lobby Against Washington http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9440074/ Posted by: Pat C on December 16, 2006 02:35 AMHere you go, or here we go down . . . Not to dampen any holiday spirits around here, but if you know anyone who thinks the WH Middle East adventures are just great, feel free to send them these links and, mebbe, sober them up for the season. Here are the Faces of the Fallen in Iraq http://projects.washingtonpost.com/fallen/iraq / And here are the Faces of the Fallen in Afghanistan And here's a little wry comedy to lift your spirits a little bit: Here's a heartbreaking link on the Washington Post that shows the faces of all of the Us troops that have died in Iraq or Afghanastan. You can click on the face for enlaregment and details of each person, sort by state,date, etc. http://projects.washingtonpost.com/fallen/iraq/ I have been sending this link to everyone who sends me some jingoistic or smarmy email about the war. It is so easy to rah rah for war when our dead are faceless. (not to mention all of the awful deaths and injuries to hundredss of thousands of Iraqis.) It's another thing to put faces of the fallen into view, it brings some reality home to this horror. The bush criminals know this, this is why we have a ban on even seeing photos of the coffins. This may be useful for those who wish to offer a prayer or meditation of Light for these fallen troops. I remember after 9/11 friends and I gathered for prayer and meditation for those who perished in the Twin Towers. We rang a bell once for each person who had perished. It took all day. Does anyone remember that during the Vietnam war protestors would display blown-up photos of the fallen while they read aloud the names each week? Anything that makes this absraction real to the people that support this insanity may help. Swamp Posted by: Swamp on December 16, 2006 06:48 AMBush Senior ready to "beat the hell" out of Hillary Clinton Fri Dec 15, 1:00 PM ET TOKYO (AFP) - Former US president George H.W. Bush hailed his friendship in retirement with former rival Bill Clinton, but vowed to put up a fight if Hillary Clinton runs for the White House. If Senator Clinton runs in 2008, "I'll be back on the other side and I will be trying to beat the hell out of her if possibly I can," he said with a grin. "So that's the American politics." Bush, 82, was speaking in Tokyo at the invitation of prestigious Waseda University's school of sports and science. ... Posted by: Pat C on December 16, 2006 03:20 PMBush Senior ready to “beat the hell” out of Hillary Clinton Fri Dec 15, 1:00 PM ET TOKYO (AFP) – Former US president George H.W. Bush hailed his friendship in retirement with former rival Bill Clinton, but vowed to put up a fight if Hillary Clinton runs for the White House. If Senator Clinton runs in 2008, “I’ll be back on the other side and I will be trying to beat the hell out of her if possibly I can,” he said with a grin. “So that’s the American politics.” Bush, 82, was speaking in Tokyo at the invitation of prestigious Waseda University’s school of sports and science. ... Posted by: Pat C on December 16, 2006 03:28 PMhttp://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_linda_mi_061216_the_disappearance_of.htm THE DISAPPEARANCE OF GEORGE P. BUSH Posted by: Pat C on December 16, 2006 04:07 PMRaven, JudiG, PatQoP, Pluto has been in my 2nd house for 20 years now and at 45 I am just now learning that it has been the source of so much financial trouble. It's always been 1 step forward and 2 steps back. Looking back, it was during that time years ago when I started in the industry I am in and why its been such a frustration. On the last thread I posted about a Hawk swooping at my car twice while in Colorado. I now know what the message was and I feel like a have a hatchet buried deep in my back by a co-worker who I thought was on my side. I am caught in the middle between the company I work for and the hotel that I work at. I have no support from either and that has put me in a no win situation. This has made me realize that the industry I am in no longer serves a purpose and it is time to make a radical change. Raven, I agree that Pluto brings about death and destruction. For me, it is destroying the veils of illusion, forcing me to see things as they really are and to make the changes neccessary for growth. Posted by: Cybear on December 16, 2006 04:15 PM(((Cybear))) Posted by: Pat C on December 16, 2006 04:27 PMTHE ALBATROSS IN THE ROOM: GEORGE W. BUSH [snip] He is the reason for the “grave and deteriorating” situation not only in Iraq but throughout the Middle East. By sanctioning an Israeli invasion and standing back to witness “the birth pangs” of democracy, he created the crisis in Lebanon. By demanding elections and severely punishing the results, he created the crisis in Palestine. By prefacing his hegemonic crusade for “democracy” with a declaration of the “axis of evil”, he cut off all lines of diplomacy with Iraq, Iran and North Korea while transforming an early and effective ally in the battle against Al Qaeda (Iran) into an enemy. Against this backdrop, even if he had not committed the cardinal crime of international conduct by launching an aggressive war and occupation against an unthreatening nation, the president would still be an albatross in nearly every nation in the region. By launching that invasion, inflicting mass casualties, splintering Iraq beyond repair, and creating a failed state, he has managed to alienate all nations, including Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Egypt. Never has a president failed so spectacularly. We can continue to debate the finer points of the Iraq Study Group recommendations but it will be a purely intellectual exercise until we recognize the albatross in the room. The president is not only unwilling to seek a negotiated withdrawal, he is incapable of doing so. His credibility in Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Iran and Iraq has gone beyond absolute zero. He believes he is still in a position to make demands when the very ground upon which he stands is erupting in flames. The way forward in Iraq (already a hackneyed cliché and a borderline oxymoron) does not run through this White House; it runs around it. It begins by recognizing that the president is the problem and the nation cannot afford to wait until the next election to resolve it. This is his war, his occupation, his exploding catastrophe, and others must now step forward to take responsibility for ending it. There are two ways forward in Iraq and both were unwisely and prematurely taken off the table by the leadership of the newly elected congress. more... Posted by: lunaoscura on December 16, 2006 05:02 PMRaven, Pluto brings destruction, death and resurrection and is the ruler of Scorpio (I guess along with Mars)...that is what transformation is. The leaves fall from the trees, the trees become skeletons, the leaves mix with the earth, make new soil, and then the tree comes back to life again....but the tree doesn't literally die. Pluto brings up that which is hidden underground which might be nourishing us in positive or negative ways....but ways which could stop us from reaching a newer and more loving way of being...kind of knocks the dirt from the shoes, as it were. Sometimes the dirt is real crap, too....the kind we don't want to deal with but are forced to. There is no transformation with out confronting the dragon blocing the entrance to the cave where the treasure lies. I think the other planets determine the how, why, when of that process which lasts longer than one human life. Kind of a transpersonal planet. This could get really, really interesting. Wonder if it will ever get reported on anywhere but the 'net? The Green Zone Follies Baghdad, 14 Dec 06: “Although you will never see a word of it in the U.S. media, there is a very serious, growing and potentially critical loss of morale here in Iraq. A CIC major, working with the CID here inside the Green Zone, met with me yesterday and told me they are working on a growing, but top secret, investigation into what appears to be an organizing mutiny among U.S. combat troops in at least three different locations in occupied Iraq. Deplorable conditions here, including defective ammunition (and a serious lack of it due to the Falcon disaster) lack of armor, increasingly sophisticated and very deadly attacks on U.S. troops with no countermeasures either in place or at all effective, coupled with Bush’s obvious intentions to quickly and greatly increase the number of troops here and his plans (often discussed by the brass) of a “huge new push” designed to “knock out the resistance and permit a withdrawal with face” ( a direct quote from a classified order.) have done nothing to defuse what my informant believes is a “critical situation.” more (you have to scroll down to the article and there are fascinating articles before you get there) http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a2597.htm#002 Posted by: Shadowhawk on December 16, 2006 08:41 PM(((((Cybear)))) About Face: Soldiers Call for Iraq Withdrawal Saturday 16 December 2006 For the first time since Vietnam, an organized, robust movement of active-duty US military personnel has publicly surfaced to oppose a war in which they are serving. Those involved plan to petition Congress to withdraw American troops from Iraq. (Note: A complete version of this report will appear next week in the print and online editions of The Nation.) ............... http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/121606Z.shtml Friday 15 December 2006 "People aren't looking for the Democrats to be better managers of the war, they want the Democrats to end the war and to bring our troops home." Troops "asking" for their withdrawal from Vietnam... er, Iraq won't register whatsoever with bushaholic. Troops to it are tinker toys. All Life to bushadruggie is a toy for it to break. That's the way it is. Problem & question is... why do so many fellow pink people agree with it? bushakiller can't do anything on its own. We might be aware that all the pink old wargeezers of ultra PinkLands... USia, UKia, parts of Australia, S Africa, parts of Canada... agree with bushapsycho... which is why it gets to kill. Posted by: JoannaOregon on December 16, 2006 11:10 PMAct III in a Tragedy of Many Parts It is not only the Iraqi people who oppose the occupation of their country and want to see the troops leave. A clear majority of people in the United States have expressed the same sentiment in major opinion polls and in the mid-term Congressional elections, which swing both houses of Congress and the majority of state governorships to the Democrats, in a clear vote against the imperial arrogance of Bush’s “stay the course” approach to the disaster in Iraq. The public did not vote for more money for the Pentagon (as incoming Senate majority leader Harry Reid of Nevada immediately promised, announcing a plan to give $75 billion more to the Pentagon), for more “oversight” of the war (the main Democratic Party buzzword these days), or for more troops (as Texas Democrat Representative Silvestre Reyes, the incoming chair of the House Intelligence Committee, has demanded), but to begin bringing the troops home. A clear majority of active-duty U.S. troops want the same thing, as a much-ignored Zogby International poll found in early 2005, with 72 percent saying they wanted to be out of Iraq by the end of 2006. http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/12/16/104243/34 Start your engines. Incoming Democratic committee chairmen say they will hold a series of hearings and investigations early next year to build the case for their call for a phased withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq and for possible action against defense contractors found to have wasted billions in federal funds. The emerging plans to grill administration officials on the conduct of the war are part of a pledge for more aggressive congressional oversight on issues such as prewar intelligence, prisoner treatment at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay, and the government’s use of warrantless wiretaps. Yes, the upcoming 110th Congress should be an exciting one. And the technical staff here at Daily Kos just might have to look into how to program the spell-checker so that it recognizes the word “warrantless.” So, who’s going to lead the charge? Waxman, at the House Government Reform and Oversight Committee? Leahy, on Senate Judiciary? Conyers, his counterpart in the House? Among the most eager incoming chairmen is Sen. Carl M. Levin (D-Mich.), a lawyer with a professor’s demeanor and a prosecutor’s doggedness. As head of the Senate Armed Services Committee, Levin, 72, will be his party’s point man on the Iraq war and on the Democrats’ call to begin withdrawing troops in the coming months. Oooh, almost forgot about that one! Levin said he also plans inquiries into “documentation of waste and fraud and abuse in the contracting areas” of the military. Aggressive oversight “is not just a budget issue,” he said, but at some point “becomes a significant moral issue.” More…. Posted by: Pat C on December 16, 2006 11:20 PMTimothy, I'm away from my computer for the time being, so don't have her chart to hand, but do remember it being a doozy... poor child, terrible story. Posted by: Lynda Hill on December 16, 2006 11:40 PMWoops, meant to write 'JonBenet'.... Posted by: Lynda Hill on December 16, 2006 11:41 PMLynda, when you did her chart, could you find any clues to what actually happened to her? Posted by: Pat C on December 16, 2006 11:52 PMChrist on a crutch! Can our govmint get any dumber!! New Counterinsurgency Manual Hits Net This is the first post-9/11 “war on terror” U.S. military counterinsurgency manual – the long-awaited doctrine meant to turn the tide for U.S. forces in Iraq and Afghanistan. The counterinsurgency field manual's cover reads in part, "Distribution Restriction: Approved for Public Release; Distribution is unlimited." Why? Now you and everyone, including Al Qaeda terrorists and insurgents, can read the entire 282-page manual. more http://www.iraqslogger.com/index.php/post/224/New_Counterinsurgency_Manual_Hits_Net Posted by: Shadowhawk on December 17, 2006 01:19 AMWTF??? Posted by: Pat C on December 17, 2006 02:02 AMWTF is right Pat C, This deals indirectly with the North American Union, I think. I don't know that much about economics but this sounds about right. Dollar's Collapse Would
http://www.rense.com/general74/dollar.htm They're all so blase ain't they. Oh, just yawn, mebbe two blinks instead of one, time for some more of them pills to pop, yawn again, nothing to think about, nothing to concern about, nothing, nothing nothing... nothing is nothing about nothing... Posted by: JoannaOregon on December 17, 2006 03:39 AMPerson of the Year Person of the Year: You Yes, you. You control the Information Age. Welcome to your world. Power to the People You control the media now, and the world will never be the same. Meet the citizens of the new digital democracy The YouTube Guys How a couple of regular guys built a company that changed the way we see ourselves People Who Mattered: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad An Interview with Iran's Agitator People Who Mattered 2006 Posted by: Pat C on December 17, 2006 05:15 AMI like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad very much. I have good reason to believe that he's a Sufi. That's a really good thing to be. "Iran's Agitator"... that's pure crap. That's somebody, like a USian agitator, trying to manipulate public perception as usual. It's like saying: "Clinton's Impeachment." Totally bogus. It was republican impeachment. Words can be very funny or very unfunny things imo. Cybear, my Dad has Pluto in Leo natally in his 2nd house. He and my family had a very tough time when I was young. Industry around us shut down, and he lost his factory job, and nearly everything else material. He thought he was going to lose my Mom, but fortunately, being the stubborn yet resillient Aqu Asc/Sag Sun/Lunar Scorpio she is, she'd never let him go. We managed to keep the house, and he eventually landed something more solid, though it was nowhere near as good as before. After several years of uncertainty, switching jobs and working in unsafe conditions, he finally landed the job that he's had ever since. He's finally close to the level of comfort that he had three decades ago, though he still laments not being able to put my sister and I through college. (We both undestand, of course, and found a way to put ourselves through, anyhow.) Second House Pluto always seems to have some power struggle issues with money, which is why I learned fairly early on to avoid arguing with him. (My own second house natal Saturn in Leo doesn't help my case any.) I do think on the other end of the chaos that he understands what really matters in life even better than he did before, and seems more easygoing now than he was before, though I still won't ever argue with him about money! The death/resurrection part of Pluto is very real. You are going through an extremely tough time now with this being a transit, but I am sure you will be much better for it on the other side, and will be much stronger than you might now believe that you will be. Posted by: NEOBuckeye on December 17, 2006 09:46 AMIf I remember, Sally posted an article a while back stating that the Dollar would be in real jeopardy in 2009 or so, and may or may not survive. I'm too tired to look back right now to find it. I would like to know the Canadians' and Mexicans' take on this proposed forced merger, though. I don't supposed that anyone has really bothered to ask them how well they'd enjoy being dragged down to the bottom with the US. As I've stated previously, I think it is a very bad idea that will backfire tremendously on the globalist-corporatists who want this silly setup so badly. Maybe when we revoke corporate personhood and everybody can sue every corporate executive for the damage they've personally caused to the planet, institutionalized predatory capitalism as God will be put into its' place. Posted by: NEOBuckeye on December 17, 2006 09:58 AMOil producing countries have reduced their exposure to the dollar to the lowest level in two years and shifted oil income into euros, yen and sterling, according to new data from the Bank for International Settlements. //www.ft.com/cms/s/277471c2-8889-11db-b485-0000779e2340.html Thanks NEO, Pat C and Pat QoP. It hasn't been easy, but I usually scrape by. Paycheck to paycheck is a way of life for me and I can strech a dollar a long way. They just don't stretch the way they use to in today's world. Anyway, I have had to work a lot harder over the years to accomplish any sort of security and comfort. As a result, I know the value of money and am grateful for all that I have. It seems that the older I get the harder it gets. But you know, it has made me focus on the spiritual side of life instead of fighting it and doing something stupid. So now I have another 14 years of Pluto which will put me at 59/60 when it passes. Just in time for my second Saturn return. Yippee...ugh...If I live that long I hope Saturn is kind.... I think this lifetime is all about paying off some Karma. Oh well, at least I know and I just go with the flow. Oh yeah, Pluto in my 2nd house is at 7 degrees Virgo now. Posted by: Cybear on December 17, 2006 02:15 PMDiabetes breakthrough In a discovery that has stunned even those behind it, scientists at a Toronto hospital say they have proof the body's nervous system helps trigger diabetes, opening the door to a potential near-cure of the disease that affects millions of Canadians. More.... Posted by: Pat C on December 17, 2006 03:35 PMNeo, I think the biggest lesson that those of us with Pluto in the second house learn is that money cannot buy love or happiness. It is transient, it comes and goes and is good for food, clothing and shelter. Any other material objects are just a reward. Posted by: Cybear on December 17, 2006 03:46 PM The Army, Despite Its $168 Billion Budget, Is Out of Money http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/121706Z.shtml The Iraq war has exposed more than a decade's worth of mistakes and miscalculations that are now seriously undermining the world's mightiest military force. According to Major General Stephen Speakes, the Army was sent to war in Iraq $56 billion short of essential equipment. Army officials told the White House that it needs at least an additional $24 billion, not in the 2007 budget, just to pay its current bills. Cash shortfalls have forced the Army to lay off janitorial staff, close base swimming pools, and even stop mowing lawns on Army bases. Posted by: Pat C on December 17, 2006 05:29 PMI'm not sure of this source, but I'm posting it because it's out there. http://www.halturnershow.com/ChinaToDumpUSDollars.html CHINA TO DUMP ONE TRILLION IN U.S. RESERVES! Tells visiting Bush administration officials they will not sit back and lose their shirts as U.S. Dollar collapses; they are getting out fast and large! BEIJING, CHINA -- Sources with a U.S. Delegation in Beijing have told The Hal Turner Show the Chinese government has informed visiting Bush Administration officials they intend to dump One TRILLION U.S. Dollars from China's Currency Reserves and convert those funds into Euros, gold and silver! China was allegedly asked to withhold the announcement until Bullion Markets closed for the weekend to prevent an instant spike in gold and silver prices. This delay will give the world the weekend to consider appropriate actions rather than have a knee-jerk reaction which could see the U.S. Dollar totally collapse in value Monday. According to this Senior source, China told the U.S. delegation they no longer have faith in U.S. Currency for several reasons: More... Posted by: Pat C on December 17, 2006 07:04 PMAccording to Jeff Green Pluto does one thing consistently. It forces you to fall back on yourself for what you need. It makes you fulfill your needs in ways that are more self propelled. Depending on the House it's in you will be compelled to rely on your survival skills, usually through being denied that which you think you have to have in order to survive (money, material comfort, a life partner, or a job). Although it seems to happen outwardly to you, the real issues are about self-empowerment. From misusing power to power struggles to teaching others how to acknowledge and use their power. So it's not strange that many times it makes you feel powerless. But always after the fact you can see how much more empowered you are. Posted by: lunaoscura on December 17, 2006 07:05 PMhttp://beardedoleguy.squarespace.com/display/ShowJournal?moduleId=833271&creatorId=117837 Economics 101 Posted by: Pat C on December 17, 2006 07:17 PMhttp://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_kathy_do_061216_experts_for_the_u_s_.htm Experts for the U.S. Congress to Consult with on Election Integrity Legislation U.S. voting and elections systems are still insecure and wide-open to vote fraud and voter disenfranchisement according to experts at the National Institute of Standards and Technology and U.S. computer experts. Here are recommendations for federal legislation to ensure the integrity of our democracy: http://electionarchive.org/ucvInfo/US/EI-FederalLegislationProposal.pdf and here is a list of experts that the U.S. Congress may consult with: http://electionarchive.org/ucvInfo/US/ExpertsList.pdf on questions and details concerning federal legislation to ensure the integrity of our democracy. This list of experts is a managable size and the highly qualified experts on it know many other experts who can be conferred with. For ordinary citizens to exercise oversight over election integrity and be empowered to detect vote miscount and voter disenfranchisement, it is vital that: 1. Sufficient, transparent, verifiable manual audits of machine vote counts are conducted, and 2. Election records and data be publicly released prior to any election results being certified. Please contact your US House Representative and Senators and urge them to implement these recommendations and to consult with independent experts prior to finalizing the wording of any legislation. http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm To have any possibility for having auditable voting system and sufficient manual audits of vote counts in place by the November 2008 election, federal legislation must be passed and funded in early 2007. Please contact the staff of your representative and senators before the end of January. Thank you very much! Posted by: Pat C on December 17, 2006 07:27 PMThis was posted on Salon and I found it to be quite striking. “This insane regime,” its ablest defender Count Witte, the premier 1903-06, called it; “this tangle of cowardice, blindness, craftiness, and stupidity.” The regime was ruled from the top by a sovereign who had but one idea of government—to preserve intact the absolute monarchy bequeathed to him by his father—and who, lacking the intellect, energy, or training for his job, fell back on personal favorites, whim, simple mulishness, and other devices of the empty-headed autocrat. His father, Alexander III, who deliberately intended to keep his son uneducated in statecraft until the age of thirty, unfortunately miscalculated his own his own life expectancy….The new Czar, now forty-six, learned nothing…and the impression of imperturbability he conveyed was in reality apathy—the indifference of a mind so shallow as to be all surface. When a telegram was brought to him announcing the annihilation of the Russian fleet at Tsoshima, he read it, stuffed it in his pocket, and went on playing tennis. When the premier, Kokovtsov, returning from Berlin in November 1913, gave the Czar a personal report on German preparations for war, Nicholas listened to him with his usual intent, unwavering gaze, “looking straight into my eyes.” After a long pause, when the premier had finished, “as if waking from a reverie, he said gravely, ‘God’s will be done.’” In fact, Kokovtsov concluded, he was simply bored. --Barbara Tuchman's description on Czar Nicholas II, The Guns Of August. Posted by: Pat C on December 17, 2006 11:38 PM"Sixty Minutes" had a piece on secret Nazi files kept in a German town, made public recently, which held records on 17 million victims - all those whom the Nazis wanted erased. Documents included those on Analiese Marie Frank (Anne Frank) and Oscar Schindler's list. Three survivors were shown their own records. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/12/14/60minutes/main2267927.shtml
It took 60 years for the Germans to deal with their "shame/guilt" to OK the release of these records.........How long do you think it will take uys to get over our shame? ( That's a generic shame noot persopnal to those here, who have done whatever they could to stop oour war of agggression.) http://www.texasmonthly.com/community/blog/paulburka/2006/12/protest-at-smu-targets-bush-library.php Protest at SMU Targets Bush Library The likelihood that the George W. Bush presidential library will be located at SMU has not been welcome news for at least one segment of the university community. A letter, dated December 16, from "Faculty, Administrators, & Staff" of the Perkins School of Theology to R. Gerald Turner, president of the Board of Trustees, is now circulating not only on the SMU campus but also among a wider academic community, urging the board to "reconsider and to rescind SMU's pursuit of the presidential library." Texas Monthly has obtained a copy of this letter, which, as you might expect, focuses heavily on objections to Bush's policies: "We count ourselves among those who would regret to see SMU enshrine attitudes and actions widely deemed as ethically egregious: degradation of habeas corpus, outright denial of global warming, flagrant disregard for international treaties, alienation of long-term U.S. allies, environmental predation, shameful disrespect for gay persons and their rights, a pre-emptive war based on false and misleading premises, and a host of other erosions of respect for the global human community and for this good Earth on which our flourishing depends." More... .............. http://www.thenewstribune.com/opinion/othervoices/story/6286634p-5483453c.html DALE ROGERS It’s been said that perception is reality. If this is so, then the president is a disgrace. Some may find that easy to say, but I find that very difficult to say. We have to stop being in denial first about the shame of murder, war, violence. People think up reasons about why it's justified or are just too complacent, myself included. When I was younger I wanted to actively stop these injustices...now I'm against them and participate in emailing congress but I wonder why I don't do more, like a Cindy Shehan, for instance. I saw "Pursuit of Happyness" last night. In case you don't know it, it's based on a true story of a single father who is homeless for a certain period in his life and goes through hell to keep his life together and take care of his son, all the while pursuing the dream of success. It is hard to watch what they go through, yet so many are going through this, and much worse, this very moment while I have a warm bed and food and more... It made me feel like I have a lot of nerve ever complaining. It also caused me that familiar feeling of wanting to stop the pain for others but not sure how, except to donate to organizations and pray. I could organize a protest but how would that help the homeless, displaced victims of war and violence? It just feels awkward. Posted by: Sharon on December 18, 2006 03:43 AMThe Canadians are weighing in on the North American Union and they don't seem to like it any better than we do. Conservative Party linked to pro-U.S. annexation cabal Activities tantamount to Treason, involving Breach of Parliamentary Oath and conspiracy to overthrow Her Majesty by Peter Mackenzie "Stand Up for Canada" appears to have been devised as a technique of m-a-s-s deception, under the joint auspices of former ultra-right wing Alliance Party and U.S. Republican Party advisors. In the last 2006 Federal Election, the Conservative Party kept trumpeting its slogan that it would "Stand up for Canada". Then, Opposition Leader Stephen Harper during that elected indicated that he would similarly "Stand Up" for Canadian sovereignty in the Arctic. Mr. Harper portrayed his party, as a party which would govern Canada with integrity and openness in a spirit of renewed democracy, in contrast with the 'corruption' of the Martin Liberals. As it turns out, these assertions by Mr. Harper could not be further from the truth. Mel Hurtig, the founder of the Council of Canadians, and also a variety of other reliable sources including veteran CNN anchor Lou Dobbs, now reveal that senior elected representatives and advisors to the Conservative Party, are currently planning a sch-e-m-e that would hand over Canada to the Bush regime by 2007. The official name for this sch-e-m-e, is called "North American Union". Mel Hurtig, a noted Canadian author and publisher who was the elected leader of the National Party of Canada, provided researchers with the agenda and attendee list of the so-called "North American Forum" at the Fairmont Banff Springs Hotel in Banff, Alberta, Sept. 12-14, 2006. Mel Hurtig reveals that the Stephen Harper's Government has appointed a Ministerial Team in order to "surrender" Canada to the U.S. by 2007, so that its political-military-industrial complex can fully control oil and other Canadian resources. Alberta "Conservatives", including at least one former Premier, are reportedly among prominent Harper Government operatives of this ultra-right wing effort. Mr. Hurtig said the "secret meeting was designed to undermine the democratic process." In addition, the reported Agenda undermines the Statutory position of Her Majesty the Queen of Canada, as the constitutional expression of a Canada independent from the U.S. keep reading. http://www.vivelecanada.ca/article.php/20061216061801872 Posted by: Shadowhawk on December 18, 2006 04:11 AMWhat an inspiration! Can you imagine this happening here? December 18, 2006 The Spirit of Christmas: Bush and Blair banned from Church of Nativity Posted by: Pat C on December 18, 2006 06:25 PMAnd I half-heartedly wonder what sorts of recent projects the RC church has raided/abetted B&B in secret... banned from the "church of nativity" is decayed candy for the "outraged masses" I would think. Winter solstice season just seems to bring out the very worst in political psychopaths. Posted by: JoannaOregon on December 18, 2006 11:57 PMIt was the Orthadox church who banned B&B I believe. The RC church is an active part of the march to the New World Order at least according to my RC intuition. Posted by: clymela on December 19, 2006 01:46 AMSean Penn has grown up and become quite the man. I'm very impressed with his speech and I hope every single politician reads it. It's a powerful speech! Sean Penn will be receiving The 2006 Christopher Reeve First Amendment Award from The Creative Coalition this evening, December 18, 2006, in New York City, where he will deliver the following speech. The Christopher Reeve First Amendment Award. For the purposes of tonight and my own personal enjoyment, I'm going to yield to the notion that I deserve this. And in the spirit of that, tell you that I am very honored to receive it. And for this I thank the Creative Coalition and my friend Charlie Rose. It does seem appropriate to take this opportunity to exercise the right that honors us all - freedom of speech. much much more
Olberman, Year of the Special Comment http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/ Let there be at least some joy in Mudville. ......... Shadowhawk, he has truly grown into a fine human being. Posted by: Pat C on December 19, 2006 03:12 AMhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/18/AR2006121801477.html The Bush administration is split over the idea of a surge in troops to Iraq, with White House officials aggressively promoting the concept over the unanimous disagreement of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, according to U.S. officials familiar with the intense debate. Posted by: Pat C on December 19, 2006 05:34 AMSo on the news here in the last few hours it appears that dimwit is dissing uncle James' ISG report as well as colin powell's opinion, in favor of the opinion of the "american enterprise group" a right wing think tank. And the omnicidal butchery just goes on & on & on & on & on & on, don't it... the way it has for five millenniums. For sure human becomings are the most primitive, least evolved, of all Life forms on the face of the Earth. "We need another & a wiser & perhaps a more mystical concept of animals. Remote from universal nature & living by complicated artifice, man in civilization surveys the creature thru the glass of his knowledge & sees thereby a feather magnified & the whole image in distortion. We patronize them for their incompleteness, for their tragic fate for having taken form so far below ourselves. And therein do we err. For the animal shall not be measured by man. In a world older & more complete than ours, they move finished & complete, gifted with the extension of the senses we have lost or never attained, living by voices we shall never hear. They are not brethren, they are not underlings: they are other nations, caught with ourselves in the net of life & time, fellow prisoners of the splendour & travail of the earth." - Henry Beston But it's not even clean innocent butchery... it is, instead, full of mostly conscious deceit, malevolence, hatreds, greed, & sexual lifeforce perversions & deliberately happily wallowing in them. Posted by: JoannaOregon on December 19, 2006 06:06 AM* This is one of those rare moments in history when the oligarchical consensus that rules the country is forced to reveal itself in all its nakedness. Just 5 wks after an overwhelming majority voted for departure from Iraq, the big debate in the media is whether or not we should increase troop levels - at a time when the Army's going broke. And yet, there's no public outcry about subverting the will of the [USia] people. Congratulations, GOP: Submission accomplished. Here's a quick reminder: 7 out of 10 [USians] want us out of Iraq within 2 yrs, & a majority want us out within 6 mos. (You could be forgiven for forgetting, since you haven't heard much about it lately.) Exit polls show that voters overwhelmingly made their decision based on Iraq. Yet as Arianna & others have observed, Harry Reid is indicating that he could support a "surge" - an increase in troop levels - provided that [regime] promised it would be only for a limited time, & with the purpose of withdrawing troops at a later date. The "surge" can become the foundation for the 4th Great Lie - which, like one of the the Great Lies that precedes it, involves that promise of "withdrawal" at some unspecified point in the future. So, while I hate to use a loaded leftist word like "oligarchy," what's a better term for a situation where a few people dismiss the expressed wishes of the electorate? (And speaking of terminology, who coined this word "surge"? I prefer something more descriptive. Here's a suggestion: How about calling it "the Heave"?) ... http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/4030 Posted by: JoannaOregon on December 19, 2006 06:37 AM* Satan, Soy &...Shrinking Penises? According to James Rutz, chairman of Megashift Ministries & founder-chairman of Open Church Ministries, "A devil food is turning our kids into homosexuals." It seems Satan is lurking in... soy. Mr Rutz claims that "Soy is feminizing, & commonly leads to a decrease in the size of the penis, sexual confusion & homosexuality. That's why most of the medical (not socio-spiritual) blame for today's rise in homosexuality must fall upon the rise in soy formula & other soy products." After you stop laughing, examine Mr Rutz's preposterous – not to mention totally unsupported – claims. "Soy is feminizing, & commonly leads to a decrease in the size of the penis, sexual confusion & homosexuality." How does one even begin to respond to such nonsense? Since soy products such as tofu – which Mr Rutz says must be completely avoided – have been traditional parts of the Chinese & other Eastern diets for over 2000 yrs, shouldn't China be a totally homosexual nation by now? Similarly, since tofu is a staple in Buddhists' vegetarian diets, shouldn't all Buddhists be gay? ... http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/4025 Posted by: JoannaOregon on December 19, 2006 07:05 AM"We need another & a wiser & perhaps a more mystical concept of animals. Remote from universal nature & living by complicated artifice, man in civilization surveys the creature thru the glass of his knowledge & sees thereby a feather magnified & the whole image in distortion. We patronize them for their incompleteness, for their tragic fate for having taken form so far below ourselves. On soy......beyond belief! Let them eat beef! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAA re Rutz The Soy Beater! I'm loving this Pluto on the GC. All the hypocricy is right there with lights glaring on it. And people telling the guilty parties off. Did you all see that Tom Delay blog I linked earlier in this thread? Then Jason Leopold was dumb enough to spread more BS on DU and they all told him where to stick it. The dude never apologized and was completely rude, nasty, bitter and off the wall in his answers to those who asked for some truth. What a Drama King. I'm getting very wary of those who blog only links and then think themselves a 'journalist' or world saviour. That's such bs. They are just blogging other people's material, not anything original or creative that they have written. BTW, the articles are not that hard to find. Alot that are linked to AW are easlily accesible and at the expense of saying anything which has to do with astrology or creating dialogue. Linking only is monologue. This is the scary thing about the internet. We can have opinions but we have no idea who is behind the tag, how legit, professional, or their true intentions.
Apparently one of Gate's first act is to request an addtional carrier to be sent to the Persian Gulf. Posted by: Pat C on December 19, 2006 01:49 PMHi all, regarding the surge, democrats, repubs, yada, yada, yada ... found this post on the internet which sums up our reality ... (they all bat for the same team just wear different jerseys) *********** Sadly, in Political Science, US style government is called Managed Democracy, or Directed Democracy. Elections are just for show to keep people quiet with the illusion that their vote means something. So real dissent is short-circuited. The moneyed oligarchy really manages the theater like the wizard behind the curtain. It's far easier to let people say what they want than to silence them, especially when nobody gives a shit what they shout into the wind. It's far easier to let them vote for 1 of 2 owned bitches than to stop elections. This moron war is the perfect example of a mindless ruling class doing whatever retarded, evil shit they want, totally ignoring the will of the people. In most of the world "democracy" is becoming a dirty word, like "fascism." When that happens here - and it will - watch out. ******* Wishing everyone much joy ... and light. Posted by: Marta on December 19, 2006 04:12 PMSally, your title should ISG instead of IGS. It's my Mercury in Virgo speaking! Can't help it! The honorable and lovable Vice President of ours (snark) is gonna have to go to court and testify in the Libby case!! Poor baby!! haaa-haaaa What do his stars look like? Posted by: Laurie on December 19, 2006 08:46 PMSo the Pentagon is considering a show of force in Iran, Darth Cheney will be a witness for the CIA leak, 6 planets in Sag., New Moon, Solstice.... Pluto moving into Capricorn... Where the hell are we headed??? Anyone feel like the proverbial poop is about to hit the fan? Here is a link to an article running in 12/17/06 SF Chronicle...written by a defense spcialist. This is what he is projecting out 20-30 years....http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/12/17/ING08MTPMF1.DTL&hw=future+wars&sn=001&sc=1000 Hopefully, women will be running most of the world by then....and not all these kids raised on video games and world annihilation. But I'd probably not bet on it. Posted by: judigem on December 19, 2006 09:28 PMSounds like a conservative's night of bad dreams. So typical, thinking that someone is always out to get them, when in truth, our incessant meddling with the affairs of other countries is what gets us into so much trouble. It's difficult to imagine Rumsfeld shedding any tears were these horrible events to come to pass. He hasn't cried for the troop losses so far. Why would that ever change, so long as his bank account remains full? Posted by: NEOBuckeye on December 19, 2006 11:01 PMSo... it appears that the Baker/Poopy cabal has "lost" its say over the bushaholic/cheney cabal in Round One... or whatever. Such media fanfare & trumpets a-tootin', too. B&P tho are such old hands at... you know, political subterfuge. So is cheney one hastens to say, but cheney has a really wigged-out psycho-partner that might not be "there" in a pinch. It ain't "here" so it's likely to be not "there" ever. Anyway, B&P are highly unlikely to give up "their world" so we'll keep an eye on what countermove to THEIR countermove happens. Posted by: JoannaOregon on December 20, 2006 02:41 AMAnother cabal or is it part of the Baker/Poopy cabal making one of its next moves. And, of course, a bloody pox on all of them! * [pink supremacist serial monogymist] Newt writes off bush, blames Rove for failures, likely will not run in '08 Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich has decided to break with bush. Sources close to Mr Gingrich said that, after having kept silent for more than a year, he has become openly critical of the [regime], portraying [rez] as a weak man akin to Gerald Ford & Jimmy Carter. The former House speaker has warned cons not to expect anything from the WH over the remaining 2 yrs & instead focus on bldg a base for leadership for 2008. "Newt bit his tongue for mos & now feels he has to tell his base the truth: the WH does not have the will or the power to promote any agenda," a source close to Mr Gingrich said. ... http://www.insightmag.com/Media/MediaManager/Gingrich3.htm Is anyone aware that we're selling off our highways to foreign entities? News: Why you could soon be paying Wall Street investors, Australian bankers, and Spanish builders for the privilege of driving on American roads. By Daniel Schulman with James Ridgeway January/February 2007 Issue
The deal to privatize the Toll Road had been almost a year in the making. Proponents celebrated it as a no-pain, all-gain way to off-load maintenance expenses and mobilize new highway-building funds without raising taxes. Opponents lambasted it as a major turn toward handing the nation's common property over to private firms, and at fire-sale prices to boot. The one thing everyone agreed on was that the Indiana deal was just a prelude to a host of such efforts to come. Across the nation, there is now talk of privatizing everything from the New York Thruway to the Ohio, Pennsylvania, and New Jersey turnpikes, as well as of inviting the private sector to build and operate highways and bridges from Alabama to Alaska. More than 20 states have enacted legislation allowing public-private partnerships, or P3s, to run highways. Robert Poole, the founder of the libertarian Reason Foundation and a longtime privatization advocate, estimates that some $25 billion in public-private highway deals are in the works—a remarkable figure given that as of 1991, the total cost of the interstate highway system was estimated at $128.9 billion. On the same day the Indiana Toll Road deal closed, another Australian toll road operator, Transurban, paid more than half a billion dollars for a 99-year lease on Virginia's Pocahontas Parkway, and the Texas Transportation Commission green-lighted a $1.3 billion bid by Cintra and construction behemoth Zachry Construction to build and operate a 40-mile toll road out of Austin. Many similar deals are now on the horizon, and mig and Cintra are often part of them. So is Goldman Sachs, the huge Wall Street firm that has played a remarkable role advising states on how to structure privatization deals—even while positioning itself to invest in the toll road market. http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/01/highwaymen.html Posted by: Shadowhawk on December 20, 2006 05:28 AMBlackwell promoted that turnpike privatization garbage here in Ohio during his campaign for Governor. But Ohioans clearly told him where he could shove it. I seriously doubt this will take off, especially with roads that aren't already established as toll roads. Posted by: NEOBuckeye on December 20, 2006 05:32 AMNeo - I think PA is letting the deal go through on this one. I don't know about the others. Lou Dobbs was reporting on the PA turnpike the other night on his show. I find it appalling that the state's financials are in such bad shape that they have to sell off the roads to foreign countries tokeep them running. Hell, we've already got most of our ports run by foreign countries. Let's see the government is run by the corporations, the ports are owned by corporations, what else can they sell off? Posted by: Shadowhawk on December 20, 2006 06:28 AMShadowhawk, are they selling to other 'countries' or to foreign registered companies? I would bet on the latter - someone has found a good way to bleed assets from community ownership to anonymous individual company shareholders. Its about the consolodation of wealth on a global scale. Here in NZ certain public assets (railroad, telephone & electric infrastructure, etc.) got sold off in the late 80's/early 90's because the government was blinded by the offer of $$$$. The cost of service jumped exponentially, company profits were milked offshore, the asset purchased was not maintained, and the public are now left with inferior or terminated services and outdated and/or run down assets. And the foreign stockowners are smiling all the way to the bank. Posted by: kiwijeanie on December 20, 2006 09:07 AMHappy Solstice everyone! Posted by: kiwijeanie on December 20, 2006 09:14 AMAtlanta had that privatization experience with the water supply. It DIDN"T work so it's back in the hands of the city gov. and they are sadder & wiser. If you can catch Robert fisk on Free Speech T V or on Democracy Now over KPFA or online. He is a truth teller. The bit of pre WW 1 history in the Iraq region is amazing. Posted by: clymela on December 20, 2006 02:05 PM
http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/fiore/2006/12/outsourcing.html Posted by: wv on December 20, 2006 03:26 PMMaybe reverse psychology would work on Baby Bush....if the Amercian people say "we want more troops, send more troops to Iraq" and then he'd be inclined to say "Most Amercians want me to bring home all the troops so I'm gonna...that's MY decision". Little blankety blank. I surely hope the VOC that was in effect during his conference this morning will back fire in his face for a change, not in ours. Lovi, "give'm enough rope they'll hang themselves"... lol he's still talking. Foot in mouth disease. Posted by: Morgana on December 20, 2006 03:47 PMMurdering "white" supremacist old wargeezer n' coots' New World Order for all the rest of us... * Bush is winning while [USians] lose big, some even their lives... How much is [rez] profitting on the Iraq War? What's your guess? The Carlyle Group, a private massive equity firm, the 12th largest defense[offense] business w/an obscenely high profit margin, is a business "arrangement" between the bush & Bin Laden families, wealthy Saudis, former British PM John Major, James Baker III, Afsaneh Masheyekhi, Frank Carlucci, Colin Powell, former US Govt administrators, & Madeleine Albright's daughter. The Carlyle Group is the 'gatekeeper' to the Saudi investment community. It owns 70% of Lockheed Martin, the largest military contractor in the US, & because Carlyle is privately owned, it has no accountability. The Group hires lobbyists the best known politicians from around the world, to influence the politics of war, & privately profit from their previous public policies. The conflict of interest is obvious: gwbush is creating wars as his father, former President George Bush, is globally peddling weapons & "protection". Lockheed Martin Marietta now owns Sandia Laboratories, a private contractor that makes the trigger for nuclear weapons, w/a Sandia lab facility across the street from Los Alamos & Livermore Natl Labs, where the nuclear bombs are made. At a 5/03 UC Regents mtg Admiral Linton Brooks was present & newly in charge of the nuclear weapons programme under the Dept of Energy. Admiral Brooks informed California Lt Gov Cruz Bustamante & the UC Regents that the mgmt contract for the nuclear weapons labs, held unchallenged by the U of California for 60 years, will be put up for bid in 2005. The favoured institution, w/a faculty member on the 'blue ribbon committee' making the contract award, is the U of Texas. This privatisation & mgmt contract transfer of the US nuclear weapons programme will put control of the US nuclear weapons programme close to the Carlyle Group. The incestuous relationship between the US govt, private companies, & the bush & Bin Laden families in a way answers many of the questions in everyone's minds about the ill fated decisions & policies that have been implemented. http://www.mindfully.org/Nucs/2004/DU-Trojan-Horse1jul04.htm... Posted by: JoannaOregon on December 20, 2006 05:55 PMWhat server are you using JoannaO? Is It Now Illegal To Link To Other Websites? Paul Joseph Watson A landmark legal ruling in Sydney goes further than ever before in setting the trap door for the destruction of the Internet as we know it and the end of alternative news websites and blogs by creating the precedent that simply linking to other websites is breach of copyright and piracy. Following our report last month that an RIAA legal argument would, if the case was eventually won, criminalize simply making files available on the Internet, many readers scoffed at the serious implications of the case. Such a precedent would change the entire face of the Internet because "making files available" is so loosely defined it could criminalize simply placing links on ones website or blog to other websites. Some accused us of yellow journalism and scaremongering yet the warning that the Elektra vs. Barker case could criminalize the very mechanism that characterizes the Internet was not concocted by Alex Jones or Paul Joseph Watson, it was a statement made by the very lawyer fighting the case, Ray Beckerman. And that's exactly what has now happened in Sydney, where an Australian federal court has opened the door for simply linking to other websites to be classified as piracy. A landmark ruling was upheld against Stephen Cooper, who ran a website which acted as search engine for locating and downloading MP3's not from his own website but from other MP3 download websites. Cooper was charged with piracy and his ISP is also being targeted for not shutting down his website quickly enough. "Sabiene Heindl, general manager of Music Industry Piracy Investigations (MIPI) said the decision meant that anyone who stuck a link on MySpace or on their bogs could now expect a knock on the door from its briefs," reports the UK Inquirer. And for those who dismiss the precedent as only applying to those who link to copyrighted MP3 files, consider this - Cooper was only doing the same thing as Google in providing a means of finding files on other website. The MIPI is also preparing to take action against Google in "other jurisdictions," meaning it is building a case to sue Google for linking to all manner of different files from its search engine hub. http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2006/201206illegaltolink.htm Posted by: Shadowhawk on December 20, 2006 08:50 PMSee ya at the camps! 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