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"An Inconvenient Truth"

World Premiere May 24, 2006
New York, New York


Al Gore's movie "An Inconvenient Truth" opened today in New York City, NY following a standing ovation at the Sundance Film Festival on May 22 as the Sun was entering the sign of Gemini in the Western United States. As the curtains are raised the waning moon is 29 Aries which is a critical point of transition conjunct Venus in Aries positioned in the 9th House of higher education, knowledge and justice they trine Pluto who conjuncts the 5th House Cusp the social culture of the people, their creativity. To complete the Grand Fire Trine, the Moon/Venus and Pluto trine the Ascendent 26 Leo. Pretty darn powerful chart, this could be a bunkerbuster.

The Sun and Mercury energy fill the 10th House carrying Al Gore's message far and wide. Uranus in Pisces square Mercury in Gemini will produce unexpected results around the world, The People's (not just Americans) are going to hear and see what the governments of the world, big oil, and MSM have kept from our sight.


Mars in the 11th house conjunct the Part of Fortune is the focal point of an inconjunct with Neptune in Aquarius and Pluto in Sagittarius energizing, firing up, igniting large groups of people, organizations, societies, the collective is wedded to Al Gore's cause. Jupiter Rx in Scorpio in the 3rd House, trine Uranus with Mercury the Messeneger taking this message to all peoples.


Here's the chart (click).

Enjoy the popcorn.


Coming soon to a theatre near you.


New moon article in the works but I got distracted taking a peek at this and thought I'd share it with you.

Morgana Seawalker on May 24 | Link
Comments

wonderful!

i've been so looking forward to al's book and movie, and i'm grateful that specific mention of it is being made here.

it is a right and just thing that the same stars that are aligning to call due the karmic debts of bush et.al. are aligning to support gore's message and mission.

Posted by: mr. kite on May 24, 2006 07:58 PM


Sharon's Legacy in Action

Tanya Reinhart
The Electronic Intifada
23 May 2006

At the present, the Western world seems still under the spell of the legend of Ariel Sharon, who, so the story goes, has brought a gigantic change in Israeli policy - from expansion and occupation to moderation and concessions - a vision to be further implemented by his successor, Ehud Olmert. Since the evacuation of the Gaza Strip settlements, the dominant Western narrative has been that Israel has done its part towards ending the occupation and declared its readiness to take further steps, and that now it is the Palestinians' turn to show that they are able to live in peace with their well-intending neighbor.

How did it happen that Sharon, the most brutal, cynical, racist and manipulative leader Israel has ever had, ended his political career as a legendary peace hero? The answer, I believe, is that Sharon has not changed. Rather, the myth built around him reflects the present omnipotence of the propaganda system, which, to paraphrase a notion of Chomsky's, has reache d perfection in manufacturing consciousness.

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Israel gives Hamas until end of year to recognize Israel, renounce violence

02:56:54 EDT May 24, 2006

JERUSALEM (AP) - Israel will move ahead with plans to unilaterally draw its final borders by 2010 if Hamas does not recognize Israel and renounce violence within six months, a senior Israeli Cabinet minister said Wednesday.

The minister, Haim Ramon, a close associate of Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, spoke just hours after U.S. President George W. Bush referred in surprisingly warm tones to the Israeli leader's plan to unilaterally withdraw from chunks of the West Bank.

Posted by: wv on May 24, 2006 08:03 PM

Yup - sounds good to me! And not just theatres but when it's available in other formats, like DVD, it will REALLY start to move.

Milk duds, popcorn, let the show begin!

Posted by: Neith on May 24, 2006 08:15 PM

Mr. Kite, isn't it just karmic justice. What an initiatory phase then brought home, earthed you might say in Taurus as Everyman get's an eye opener.

Al Gore is coming into his own, how sweet it is.

Posted by: Morgana on May 24, 2006 08:34 PM

Just in case you missed the Chicks on David Letterman.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/05/23.html#a8396

Posted by: Pat C on May 24, 2006 11:09 PM

http://zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1116

U.S. Public Widely Distrusts Its Leaders

Lichtman/Zogby Interactive poll: Gov’t., corporate scandals damage public trust in institutions at the bedrock of society.


As an increasing volume of news about political and corporate leaders comes out of investigations and federal courthouses instead of boardrooms and Capitol Hill hearing rooms, a new Lichtman/Zogby Interactive poll confirms Americans are distrustful of leaders across the societal spectrum.


Three out of four (75%) said they trust government less than they did five years ago, just 5% said they think corporations do right by the consumers they are in business to serve, and only 25% feel the reporting is fair and accurate in the newspapers they read or the nightly broadcast network news they watch on television. Nearly 60% said they believe the “state of honesty in America” today is in poor shape (18% said it is in the worst possible shape).


The poll was commissioned by author and ethics specialist Jim Lichtman. His latest book, What Do You Stand For?, is now available.


Overall, just 3% said they think Congress in general is trustworthy, compared to 24% who said President Bush is trustworthy and 29% who said they can put their faith in the national court system, the survey shows. Corporate leaders in America are nearly as widely distrusted as Congress – just 7% said they are trustworthy.


However, Americans do feel they can bank on the actions and words of their friends and co–workers – 75% said the people they work with and live near are trustworthy. Almost everyone (97%) said they consider themselves to be trustworthy, and 85% said they think their personal goals in life are less important than acting with honesty and integrity.

More...

Posted by: Pat C on May 24, 2006 11:26 PM

Another impactful film, "Baghdad ER", Mike Farrel of M.A.S.H. fame has spoken out, give it a read.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/05/24.html#a8419

The 4th Estate may be an endangered species faced with jail, however, American Film makers are rocking the American conscience and stepping up to the plate.

Posted by: Morgana on May 24, 2006 11:39 PM

http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/may2006/nf20060523_2210.htm?campaign_id=rss_daily

Intelligence Czar Can Waive SEC Rules
Now, the White House's top spymaster can cite national security to exempt businesses from reporting requirements

Posted by: Pat C on May 25, 2006 12:00 AM

Didja see on Keith Olberman's show that he made FOX News a nominee for 'Worst Person in the World'? He showed a graphic that said that what Gore is proposing in the movie will 'Hurt the Economy!!'

Posted by: Mark on May 25, 2006 12:39 AM

Heya Mark, KO has just started in my neck of the woods, I'm watching now.

Posted by: Morgana on May 25, 2006 01:05 AM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060524/pl_nm/congress_ethics_hastert_dc

The Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives, Dennis Hastert, is under investigation by the FBI, which is probing corruption in Congress, ABC News reported on Wednesday.

ABC, citing high level Justice Department sources, said information implicating Hastert was developed from convicted lobbyists who are now cooperating with the government.

Part of the investigation involves a letter Hastert wrote three years ago, urging the Secretary of the Interior to block a casino on an Indian reservation that would have competed with those of other tribes.

Hastert's Press Secretary told ABC in a statement: "We are not aware of this." Hastert's spokespeople were not immediately available for comment.

Posted by: Pat C on May 25, 2006 01:32 AM

--Al Gore is coming into his own, how sweet it is.--

how sweet indeed. many thanks for the reply comment your with additional insights.

Posted by: mr kite on May 25, 2006 02:51 AM


Another great film, if you can find it, is
Downfall - the story of the last days of Hitler
in the bunker. Methinks that "bunker mentality"
has crept into the Beltway.

Posted by: wv on May 25, 2006 02:51 AM

Photos on a CD......duh! Thanks Phil.
I do have a Nikon digital camera I'm just learning to use. The printer guy in the shack in the woods can make me a CD from it! He printed out color copies of the little girls, that I used to start the painting!

Uranus in Pisces square Mercury in Gemini will produce unexpected results around the world, The People's (not just Americans) are going to hear and see what the governments of the world, big oil, and MSM have kept from our sight.

Oh I hope that is right Morgana!
However, what can we do about it then?

May 24, 2006 -- The recent Saturday raid by 19 armed FBI agents on the House of Representatives office of Rep. William Jefferson was not a warning to the current 109th Congress but a threatening broadside against the 110th Congress, which looks to have at least one house controlled by the Democrats. The unitary fascist Bush White House is sending a message to a future Democratic Congress -- "engage in investigations, hearings, subpoenas of Bush administration current and ex-officials, and impeachment notions, and this type of ransacking of congressional offices will be the rule and not the exception."

That is why pathetic GOP leaders like Dennis Hastert, Bill Frist, and Trent Lott are so upset. Like the weak and cowering German conservative parliamentarians, including the Catholic Center Party, German People's Party, National People's Party, and Bavarian People's Party members, who, after the Nazi victory in the 1932 elections, voted in 1933 for the Enabling Act (Germany's version of our Patriot Act) and themselves out of a job, the Republican leadership complaints about Bush are too little and too late.

from: waynemadsenreport ........................today

I can't seem to copy the link; it has vanished from the URL slot, after pasting the last paragraph twice!
You know how to find it, check out the important news he has posted; several items!
I saw all I needed to see on Cspan the National Memorial service on 9/14 2001, to disbelieve the official story, .........to see the truth!
The leading family had triumphant eyes, Hastert was excessively emotional crying all over everyone's shoulders, ( in for a dime, in for a dollar?)
After the service "big dawg" wandered into the cathedral, against the outgoing flow, beseeching people, looking for absolution? ( by succumbing to temptation he had sold out his country?) Chelsea, went after him, and gently took his arm turned him and guided him out, as though he were a child.
I have been there myself ad recognized the emotions!
( After my love affair with my soul mate ended for this life time. I got lost returning from the toilets at a state park picnic area, and my Briother came to guide me back to the table.) Normally I have a sense of direction like a GPF ( geographic position finder?) You know what I mean!
PQ

Posted by: on May 25, 2006 02:55 AM

But WV,
There is no allied army headed toward the bunker, this time!

The IRS has struck again!
I was able to claim an Earned Income Credit for supporting a dependant adult child last year , so I got a healthy tax refund. It cleared the interest and penalties, still left from the "uncollectable income tax they levied my state property tax refund, to pay toward last year. Which delayed working on my own business, by 6 months while I worked off my property tax at the library.
I even had some left over, with which I started a savings account. I was planning this morning, that I could put this year's state prop. tax refund in that account, and draw a little interest before I go have to pay my tax bill.
Those %$#@ ds did it again. It is out of state hands, not yet in IRS hands. They will return it within 6-8 weeks.......will they pay ME interest and penalties on it? NO!
Horatio Alger has been "rendered" and is now dead!
While I was talking to Sen. Snowes aid about it, the phone started a rapid beeping. I shouted { Hi, Hayden, Negroponte, hows the weather where you are?)
The aid had the grace to laugh!
PQ

Posted by: on May 25, 2006 03:15 AM

The noose is tightening...he'll be damn'd if he does and damn'd if he doesn't... more popcorn, hold the butter.

Cheney may be called in CIA leak case

Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald suggested Cheney would be a logical government witness because he could authenticate notes he jotted on a July 6, 2003, New York Times opinion piece by a former U.S. ambassador critical of the
Iraq war.

Fitzgerald said Cheney's "state of mind" is "directly relevant" to whether I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, the vice president's former top aide, lied to
FBI agents and a federal grand jury about how he learned about CIA officer Valerie Plame's identity and what he subsequently told reporters.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060525/ap_on_go_pr_wh/cia_leak

Posted by: Morgana on May 25, 2006 03:20 AM

Heya Morgana - you're gonna love Keith Olberman! He's one step away from The Daily Show with Jon Stewart. And I know you gotta love Jon. ; )

Posted by: Mark on May 25, 2006 06:56 AM

I would love to see Gore run for prez. I'm no expert, but with Saturn crossing his Ascendant and heading for the bottom of his chart, it's doubtful that he would have the mindset. My guess is he is starting to work on himself and not be real public.

Posted by: Mark on May 25, 2006 07:00 AM

Re post Al Gore is coming into his own, how sweet it is.
Alas no response to my enquiry from afar (Scotsman living in NZ) on previous thread seeking some background on dates for 2008 Democratic National Convention and when will Gore have to make up his mind to run or not. In previous post I mentioned he's got some really good stuff around Nov 2008 and I fancied his chances if he runs Subsequent to that post, was made aware at http://www.stariq.com/Main/Articles/P0007127.HTM
In early April Saturn turned direct right on his (Gore's) Ascendant as the film was completed, and prepared for distribution. Saturn continues to travel down through his horoscope, a passage which generally derails political ambition.
Bugger! To voice a frequently used Kiwi expletive of despair
Apart from being a fan of ACG and Ebertin I also kinda subscribe to Grant Lewi's obscure period theory in "Astrology For The Millions" tSaturn going over the radix Asc. Geez if I was previously despondent about what's going on in the USA and its implications for the rest of the world. Am I ever glad I live in Godzone (pronounced god's own) At least we are about as far away as possible from the rest of (in)humanity Please, please convince me that you in Uncle Sam land can produce a high calibre USA/world leader to do batle in 2008. Otherwise I will definitely have to start right now building my bunker in Southern Alps South Island NZ
On a final (sour) note. Given the lack of insightful comment on Gore and 2008 on this forum and Astrodatabanks' (one posting since 3/30/2003) it appears to me that the American astrological community is so bogged down by the present situation that they are not looking at the big picture and asking "What if" questions about 2008 and the likely candidates. Or perhaps you know of an astrological forum focusing on 2008?

Posted by: San on May 25, 2006 08:17 AM

Wow that's kinda freaky
In the time that it took me to write my last post Mark has posted on the subject.
Serves me right for being so sour
Hi Mark welcome to world wide web of concerned global citizens

Posted by: Stan on May 25, 2006 08:20 AM

Mark, I've also seen Saturn work just the opposite when Saturn crosses the ascendant - bringing very hard work and responsibility, which I would think running for President must be. However, for me personally, as much as I would LOVE having him as our President, I think his life's work is in his environmental work and maybe he can do more for the world in that capacity. Being "president" is too political. He wants to stay above the fray and I do believe he is a lightworker.

Posted by: Laurie on May 25, 2006 11:50 AM

Draft John Convers, Howard Dean, Dennis Kuchinich & Barbara Boxer!
BTW. I bought Heinz tomato soup made inNZ. ( with sugar NOT GM corn syrup) Pure unmodified & delicious. Aood Corps are practicing genocide thru food!

PQ

Posted by: on May 25, 2006 11:52 AM

PQ: absolutely right! In fact, corn syrup makes people fat, and so does low-fat milk.

On whole milk:
http://www.ninaplanck.com/index.php?article=The_Low_Fat_Study

Double danger in high fructose corn syrup
http://www.westonaprice.org/modernfood/highfructose.html

Sorry to veer so off topic but this is one of the topics that I could talk about all day long.

Posted by: Joe on May 25, 2006 01:13 PM

http://talkleft.com/new_archives/011738.html

Wednesday :: August 03, 2005
Vanity Fair Reports on Alleged Turkish Bribes of Hastert

Raw Story reports:

"Sibel Edmonds has given confidential testimony inside a secure Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility on several occasions: to congressional staffers, to investigators from the OIG, and to staff from the 9/11 commission," Rose continues.

"Sources familiar with this testimony say that, in addition to her allegations about the Dickersons, she reported hearing Turkish wiretap targets boast that they had a covert relationship with a very senior Republican indeed, Dennis Hastert, Republican congressman from Illinois and Speak of the House since 1999.

The targets reportedly discussed giving Hastert tens of thousands of dollars in surreptitious payments in exchange for political favors and information. The Dickersons, says one official familiar with the case, are just the tip of the iceberg.

"Some of the calls reportedly contained what sounded like references to large scale drug shipments and other crimes," writes Rose. "One name, however, apparently stood out a man the Turkish callers often referred to by the nickname Denny boy. It was the Republican congressman from Illinois and Speaker of the House, Dennis Hastert.

According to some of the wiretaps, the FBIs targets had arranged for thousands of dollars to be paid to Hastert's campaign funds in small checks. Under Federal Election Commission rules, donations of less than $200 are not required to be itemized in public filings.

...."Edmonds reportedly added that the recordings contained repeated references to Hastert's flip-flop in the fall of 200," Rose pens, "over an issue which remains of intense concern to the Turkish government.. "

Posted by: Pat C on May 25, 2006 01:56 PM


From: Frances Beinecke, NRDC President [mailto:members@nrdcaction.org]
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 2:07 PM

Subject: Global warming at a theater near you

Dear NRDC Member,

The threat of global warming has finally burst into the public's
consciousness
with last year's category 5 hurricanes and a steady stream of scientific
studies about the alarming disappearance of Arctic sea ice.

Now we're about to get another wake-up call: a riveting documentary called
"An
Inconvenient Truth," which features Al Gore's acclaimed presentation about
the
here-and-now realities of global warming.

I've seen Al's presentation and I can tell you it's well worth the price of
admission. It has enthralled audiences around the world and inspired them to

demand change.

NRDC has been fighting for more than a decade to win forward-looking
policies
that can defuse the global warming crisis. But we need this film and many
more
like it to alert America to the stark choice now facing us: our government
can
avert a global warming catastrophe by taking action right now, or condemn
our
children to a future of drought, disease, floods and lost ecosystems.

"An Inconvenient Truth" opens in New York and Los Angeles on May 24 and
nationwide in June.

You can watch a trailer of the film and find a theater near you where it
will
be playing by going to this link:

http://www.climatecrisis.net

I hope you'll see it and spread the word.

Sincerely,

Frances Beinecke
President
Natural Resources Defense Council

Posted by: wv on May 25, 2006 02:31 PM

Stan, hello welcome, good gripe. Lot's of astrologers have looked, are looking, will look again and again at Al Gore running for the Presidency. 2008 is just coming into play and even though we may not have been writing about Al doesn't mean we're not watching.

You are correct we have soooo much on our plates with all corruption in our goobermint that we are collectively overwhelmed. Unlike other folks we don't have a Lemon Law, our Democratic Leaders are spineless crybabies...oh waaah waaah they won't give us floor time. What a bunch of whimps.. Oh no no impeachment, it'll upset the country, it'll divide the nation. What the nation isn't already divided, well no, 70 something percent want Bushybaby gone and the crowd the came with him.

Al Gore has to want to be the President and want the challenge of rebuilding this nation as Georgie Boy has gutted it from the inside out.

Ok that's my rant for the day, Stan I'm sure you'll be hearing more from us about Al Gore. Glad to you spoke up.

Posted by: Morgana on May 25, 2006 03:18 PM


here we go again...

http://www.pinr.com/report.php?ac=view_printable&report_id=496&language_id=1

Posted by: wv on May 25, 2006 03:31 PM


May 24, 2006
MOVIE REVIEW
Warning of Calamities and Hoping for a Change in 'An Inconvenient Truth'
By A. O. SCOTT
CANNES, France, May 23 — "An Inconvenient Truth," Davis Guggenheim's new documentary about the dangers of climate change, is a film that should never have been made. It is, after all, the job of political leaders and policymakers to protect against possible future calamities, to respond to the findings of science and to persuade the public that action must be taken to protect the common interest.

But when this does not happen — and it is hardly a partisan statement to observe that, in the case of global warming, it hasn't — others must take up the responsibility: filmmakers, activists, scientists, even retired politicians. That "An Inconvenient Truth" should not have to exist is a reason to be grateful that it does.

Appearances to the contrary, Mr. Guggenheim's movie is not really about Al Gore. It consists mainly of a multimedia presentation on climate change that Mr. Gore has given many times over the last few years, interspersed with interviews and Mr. Gore's voice-over reflections on his life in and out of politics. His presence is, in some ways, a distraction, since it guarantees that "An Inconvenient Truth" will become fodder for the cynical, ideologically facile sniping that often passes for political discourse these days. But really, the idea that worrying about the effect of carbon-dioxide emissions on the world's climate makes you some kind of liberal kook is as tired as the image of Mr. Gore as a stiff, humorless speaker, someone to make fun of rather than take seriously.

In any case, Mr. Gore has long since proven to be a deft self-satirist. (He recently told a moderator at a Cannes Film Festival news conference to address him as "your Adequacy.") He makes a few jokes to leaven the grim gist of "An Inconvenient Truth," and some of them are funny, in the style of a college lecturer's attempts to keep the attention of his captive audience. Indeed, his onstage manner — pacing back and forth, fiddling with gadgets, gesturing for emphasis — is more a professor's than a politician's. If he were not the man who, in his own formulation "used to be the next president of the United States of America," he might have settled down to tenure and a Volvo (or maybe a Prius) in some leafy academic grove.

But as I said, the movie is not about him. He is, rather, the surprisingly engaging vehicle for some very disturbing information. His explanations of complex environmental phenomena — the jet stream has always been a particularly tough one for me to grasp — are clear, and while some of the visual aids are a little corny, most of the images are stark, illuminating and powerful.

I can't think of another movie in which the display of a graph elicited gasps of horror, but when the red lines showing the increasing rates of carbon-dioxide emissions and the corresponding rise in temperatures come on screen, the effect is jolting and chilling. Photographs of receding ice fields and glaciers — consequences of climate change that have already taken place — are as disturbing as speculative maps of submerged coastlines. The news of increased hurricane activity and warming oceans is all the more alarming for being delivered in Mr. Gore's matter-of-fact, scholarly tone.

He speaks of the need to reduce carbon-dioxide emissions as a "moral imperative," and most people who see this movie will do so out of a sense of duty, which seems to me entirely appropriate. Luckily, it happens to be a well-made documentary, edited crisply enough to keep it from feeling like 90 minutes of C-Span and shaped to give Mr. Gore's argument a real sense of drama. As unsettling as it can be, it is also intellectually exhilarating, and, like any good piece of pedagogy, whets the appetite for further study. This is not everything you need to know about global warming: that's the point. But it is a good place to start, and to continue, a process of education that could hardly be more urgent. "An Inconvenient Truth" is a necessary film.

"An Inconvenient Truth" is rated PG (Parental guidance suggested). Some of the subjects discussed might be upsetting.

Posted by: wv on May 25, 2006 04:51 PM


The above review was from the NYTimes...

Sorry

Posted by: wv on May 25, 2006 04:57 PM


Skilling and Lay GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES

Posted by: wv on May 25, 2006 05:06 PM

Whoohoo!!! Hurrah yippee! Birds of a Feather, Kennyboy Lay will hopefully have Georgieboy soon to follow!

Posted by: Morgana on May 25, 2006 05:13 PM

!!!!!!!!!

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/05/25/D8HQTC4O0.html

HOUSTON

Enron Corp. founder Kenneth Lay has been convicted of all six counts against him, including conspiracy to commit securities and wire fraud.

Posted by: Pat C on May 25, 2006 05:20 PM

Abramoff: The House That Jack Built

http://www.thinkprogress.org/abramoff

Hastert

http://www.thinkprogress.org/abramoff#hastert

CONTRIBUTIONS — HASTERT RECEIVED $100,000 FROM ABRAMOFF AND HIS CLIENTS: “Hastert ultimately collected more than $100,000 in donations from Abramoff’s firm and tribal clients between 2001 and 2004.” In Jan. 2006, Hastert pledged to give approximately $70,000 of the donations to charity. [AP, 11/17/05; CNN, 1/3/06]

Posted by: Pat C on May 25, 2006 05:37 PM

Anybody taking odds that Bushyboy pardons Lay and sKilling ?

Posted by: Morgana on May 25, 2006 05:41 PM

I would bet he is very frightened at the prospect of justice from the people who been abused by these thugs, particularly those who now no longer support him.

Posted by: Pat C on May 25, 2006 05:46 PM

Morgana, re: Bush pardons Kenny Boy and Skilling

January 19, 2008

Bush will have to start signing on January 1st and work late into each night, but he'll manage to pardon all his friends (even if he doesn't even know Kenny Boy) by the time he hands over the keys to the White House.

Unless our next President is a Republican.

Posted by: Goldensilence on May 25, 2006 05:59 PM

Fleet week in NYC has the good ol' boyz whipping it out., big time. There were 6 fighter show planes in V formation flying so loud and low over my brownstone apt in Bklyn that the building shook a few times. What a waste of the precious oil USA is crying over. And how afraid the Iraqui's must be to hear that racket and have bombs dropping at the same time.

Many wishes and congrats to Sally. And great stuff as always Morgana.

The last thread got too heavy with personal issues and charts. Felt no energy to go there for that always distracts from the real news of the NOW; not about two years from now. The new people (btw, welcome) blogging here seemed to change the format but it seems more on track today. Really truly, can anyone reading this tell me when they will draw their last breath, or beat their last heartbeat? Then how the heck can an astrologer see the future with an absolute prediction? Look at Gore's chart on www.astro.com and learn more astrology. Get personal blogs to write on as creative writing projects. Astrology Weekly has forums for personal charts questions. Please less distracting personal posts and keep it in the NOW.
That's my rant, thanks.

BTW re Lay : Yipppppie, time heals all wounds and time wounds all heels.

PS Paid distruptors work in herds, do not forget that , or else they'll parasite enough to hack once again. Why have be so nice when they're certainly not.

Posted by: bhakti on May 25, 2006 06:20 PM

That feels more like a slap in the face than a welcome.

Posted by: Goldensilence on May 25, 2006 06:31 PM

William Rivers Pitt has an interesting look at what a Democraticly controlled Congress could/would look like. Kinda gives one even more hope.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/052506J.shtml

Playing the Impeachment Card

I so love Waxman!

Posted by: Morgana on May 25, 2006 06:40 PM

Pat C. did you see where the sentencing for Lay and sKilling is 9/11(2006) what a hoot.

What a run up to the New Moon! Who knows maybe even Fitzmas, but I'm not waiting for Godot.

Posted by: Morgana on May 25, 2006 07:10 PM

Dennis Hastert has natal Saturn at 22d 02m Taurus (in right ascension [true body position] it is 50d 12m). He can be added to the list of Bush's circle who will be hit by the Saturn opposition to Neptune on Aug 29 at 140d 25m and 320d 25m.

Bush nMars/Saturn MP 139d 55m
'01 inaug Mercury 319d 30m
'05 square to pinaug Asc 140d 49m
Cheney natal Uranus 49d 48m
Rice nSun 49d 24m
Hastert nSaturn 50d 12m
Gonzalez natal Moon 320d 34m
Bolton pPluto 140d 47m
Rove square to nAsc 140d 48m

Bunker mentality? Labor Day surprise?

bob

Posted by: bob on May 25, 2006 08:07 PM

Okay isn't Howard Fineman usually pro Rupublican? He's tieing Bush tightly to Kennyboy..

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12976058/site/newsweek/from/RSS/

May 25, 2006 - If you want a date to mark the beginning of the end of the Bush era in American life, you may as well make it this one: May 25, 2006.

Saturn is just tap dancing on Bush's head (T Saturn getting ready to plant a wet one on his asc., and conj all that stuff in his 1st h. starting with Mercury...foot in mouth disease?), and all be darn'd if Bush and Blair aren't going to put their feet in it tonight, pass that popcorn! 7pm edt. Plus T Mars is making a run up to his n. Saturn in the 12th (Cancer) what a run up to the new moon!

Posted by: Morgana on May 25, 2006 10:12 PM

Morgana, yes. I took a quick breath at the thought of it. I wonder who the author of that schedule was? Were they ironic, dramatic, unaware, or just plain stupid?

Posted by: Pat C on May 25, 2006 10:14 PM

Oops, I was replying to the 7:10 post Morgana.

Posted by: Pat C on May 25, 2006 10:18 PM

bob, thank you for that!

Posted by: Pat C on May 25, 2006 10:20 PM

hen we take our first step we look ahead. In fact, I've seen a nine month old aim for the other side of the room and run wildly at top speed on wobbly little legs to reach it's goal then collapse with joy and laughter usually to the applause of the family. What an amazing thing, the human mind, that it can even conceive of such a thing as a future full of possibility. And how interesting astrologers all are. Hello to all the new ones. This is so exciting since every one has a unique perspective and I never ever tire of hearing the multitudinous views. Thank you all for everything. I feel very fortunate.

The situation with Gore is his Aries and his packed first house. This is a man who is learning fully to be his own person and plot his individual course. Discover his identity. Most pols pander to others. I know this is not what Gore wants. His Sun in Aries in the ninth speaks of an inspired educator leading the way to uncharted horizons.

This is his chance of a lifetime. With Saturn transiting the first quadrant he especially has an opportunity to forge in the wilderness outside of public and interpersonal demand. To connect with his talent. I think this is what he has dreamed of all his life.

And I think this is a lesson for the part of society that likes him. I personally want him to do what's best first for himself and then for the country. We should encourage him to fulfill his potential and not necessarily fill the void in the presidency that we feel. Some one else can to it well if he thinks he can pursue his destiny by helping to save our land. I will support him all the way in this, especially since I think we've earned a good person to do the job of pres. and we will be satisfied on in Nov.'08. I don't want to pressure Gore to abandon something so important.

Politics is multidimensional. It involves psychology, sociology, history, geography, science, anthropology, personal identification, collective caring, artistic expression, and countless other areas of study. The more well rounded we are and the more knowledge we share, the better able we will be to choose good leaders. All information seems useful to me. Once again, thank you all for being walking breathing encyclopedias with human traits, good and bad.
I'm enjoying the discussions very very much, and the unpredictability of them all.

Posted by: jm on May 25, 2006 10:23 PM

Speaking of the New Moon, I can hardly wait to discuss it and hear the opinions. There has been such an outpouring lately and this lunation is unique as it dances with Pluto in the Galactic center, a rare and wonderful occurrence. I think knowledge is seeking us to an extremely high degree. If ever there was a learning moment, this is it. I think the same vortex that is eliminating the ignorance is releasing a torrent of information more profound than usual. We're reaching the depths right now and the cosmos is beaming us in. If you ever knew a Mercury/Pluto person, you know what I mean.

We can edit later.

Posted by: jm on May 25, 2006 10:34 PM

Bhakti thanks so much for credible voice saying what i am sure many have been thinking. Not a slap goldie, just a very polite reminder (and not restricted to newcomers) that this is an astro/politico thread. Myth and gender issues, etc. are all very interesting but really belong somewhere else. such an important election year, we meed to stay on message.

Posted by: on May 25, 2006 10:49 PM

One added thing on the discussions which are merely reflecting the time. This lunation is the big Gemini/Sagittarius opposition. The Gemini talks about the daily goings on and the people, while Sag looks at the realtionship to larger dimensions. Facts vs. meaning. If you noticed, a new burst of Sag energy has come in. There is conflict as some like all the newsy tidbits, others like the sweep of history and its relation to the present and the future. There is room for it all. And value.

Posted by: jm on May 25, 2006 10:51 PM

Can you smell 'disenfranchisement' in the air off of Huntington Beach? Well, I can! Here's the dirt straight from my inbox
------------------------------------------

This message was sent by your Democracy for America - Orange County organizer, Susan Kopicki.

Dear DFA-OC Member,
Please read the press release below from the Orange County Democratic Party. Hundreds, maybe thousands, of OC Democrats have been fraudulently switched to Republican registration and the Registrar of Voters is avoiding fixing the problem, a problem that could disenfranchise hundreds or thousands of OC Democrats on June 6.

Attend the press conference if possible
. Thanks,
DFA-OC
Melahat Rafiei
Susan Kopicki

Press Release

Victims of Republican Voter Registration fraud must be contacted before the June 6, 2006 Primary election.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact Susan Freeze (714) 835-2122

200 N. Main Street Santa Ana CA 92701

SANTA ANA, CA Frank Barbaro, Chair of the Democratic Party of Orange County will conduct a press conference at 8am on Thursday, May 25, 2006 at the Orange County Registrar of Voters 1300 S. Grand Avenue in front of Building C to address the probable disenfranchisement of hundreds and possibly thousands of Orange County voters who were tricked, bullied or fraudulently registered by bounty hunters hired by the Republican Party of Orange County and the Republican Party of California between the months of September, 2005 and February, 2006. "From an estimated 3,500 questionable affidavits, the Orange County Register contacted 134 of them and found that 112 of the134 (83%) were fraudulently switched to Republican between December 2005 and February 2006 without their knowledge. I do not know why the Orange County Registrar of Voters cannot contact these voters and repair the damage", said Frank Barbaro, Chair of the Democratic Party of Orange County. "This is a potential disaster on election day. I am particularly concerned with the 34th Senate, 69th Assembly and 40th Congressional races."

"I believe the Orange County Registrar of Voters needs to act immediately to locate and rectify these fraudulent changes. They have known about this for 8 weeks and have done nothing. We are forwarding about 10 complaints a day to the Registrar and Secretary of State that we have found in our registration effort."

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RapidResponse_CA/

Posted by: Pat C on May 25, 2006 10:54 PM

Listen. Really. If things are finally "on track" isn't talking about how off track they were yesterday taking it right off track again? Who in the world is fooling who?
Let it be. It will come your way. There are a lot of people to to nourish.

Posted by: jm on May 25, 2006 11:35 PM

Well said, jm, several times over. I have missed this kind of exchange in a Yahoo group I used to belong to. That group imploded due to power issues, and... arguing over what was topical.

Posted by: Joe on May 26, 2006 12:02 AM

Please, all, allow me to be personal for a moment.

I do not see how we can separate who we are from
what we write about whether it contains personal information or not. All is connected. And all affects the Whole. As jm states above, politics is multi-dimensional, the personal and the impersonal.

I have understood over the last few years that living and writing or speaking in the NOW also means accepting the NOW in it's entirety and complexity whether we embrace it or not.

Just some thoughts as I am always offended by others trying to monitor or control other's speech.

Aren't we all mature adults? Why do we need these childish reminders about what is appropriate and not appropriate to discuss here?
Can't we just let other's be in their own way?
We just never know when someone's speech, no matter the content, may become synchronistic to our ears, minds, and hearts.

Posted by: Beverly on May 26, 2006 12:10 AM

Greg Palast | Lay Convicted, Bush Walks, Ahnold Got Lay'd

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/052506A.shtml

Greg Palast writes about Schwarzenegger's bond with Ken Lay: "Peninsula Hotel, Beverly Hills. May 17, 2001. The Financial Criminal of the twentieth century, not long out of prison, meets with the Financial Criminal of the twenty-first century, who fears he may also have to do hard time. These two, bond-market manipulator Mike Millikin and Ken Lay, convicted Chairman of Enron Corporation, were joined by a selected group of movers and shakers - and one movie star."

Posted by: Pat C on May 26, 2006 12:13 AM

Hey Morgana!! :-D)) Irony?

http://mediamatters.org/items/200605240009?src=other

Fox guest likened Al Gore's An Inconvenient Truth to Nazi propaganda films

Summary: On Fox News' Dayside, Sterling Burnett, senior fellow at the National Center for Policy Analysis, called An Inconvenient Truth -- a new documentary on former Vice President Al Gore's campaign to raise worldwide awareness of global warming -- "propaganda" and added: "You don't go see Joseph Goebbels' films to see the truth about Nazi Germany. You don't want to go see Al Gore's film to see the truth about global warming."

Posted by: Pat C on May 26, 2006 12:22 AM

Thanks Pat C.,

There was speculation on Thom Hartman today that Lay might talk about his true/real relationship with Bush/Cheney inorder to lessen his prison sentance.

I learned a few things too: That Lay had an office in the White House and was being eyed for the cabinet post of Energy Secretary!

Surely there is more unsavory involvement between these men than we are being told.

Posted by: Beverly on May 26, 2006 12:29 AM

Any body listening to Bush & Blair on CNN?
Are they going to announce a pull-out?
Sounds like?
PQ

Posted by: on May 26, 2006 12:33 AM

sorry but agree with bhakti and anon - listening to a lot of "stuff" from self described old crones is not exactly what i expect to read here. Only in the broadest most general sense can one include such musings within the political arena. No one wants to control speech; say whatever you want, just say it in the appropriate forum. Most chats discourage off-topic rants. This one should too. Just read this thru and it seems much more abrupt than i feel - - it's just that this thread does a great job of discussing astrology, politics and posting great links. why change?

Posted by: on May 26, 2006 12:35 AM

You know Beverly, there are so darn many outrageous elements of this government, I just can't keep up. The cast of characters could just not be made up. It just wouldn't sound realistic.

Posted by: Pat C on May 26, 2006 12:35 AM

Pat Q, I'm listening. They know they have to.

I think we should stop correcting eachother and just post. I really do.

Posted by: Pat C on May 26, 2006 12:37 AM

Former Vice President Al Gore will join Air America Mornings host Rachel Maddow live by phone at 8:30 am EST on Friday, June 26th. Gore will be discussing his film on Global Warming, “An Inconvenient Truth.”

Posted by: Pat C on May 26, 2006 12:43 AM

Blair, speaking, is avoiding eye contact, with all: Bush, camera, press! ( eyes downcast!) Words sound good!
Well maybe he didn't memorize what he wanted to say.

HUH? what a screwy day; start to finish.
PQ

Posted by: on May 26, 2006 12:45 AM

Thanks Pat C, I am having trouble reading it........but the energy feels very different????????

"THEY KNOW THEY HAVE TO" I like the sound of that!
PQ

Posted by: on May 26, 2006 12:50 AM

If you are adults then you can afford to pay for a blog and post your own way.
This is not a slap to newbies.
And for the newbies:having been on AW over 3 years the last thread was the first of that kind with so much off the politcal train and personal. Sally has asked several times to post short blurbs from articles and add the link for the rest. Amazing posters left AW recently as the hubris got thicker and the current news and it's astro relevance became inundated with personal stories (mostly too boring for me so I skip). Then when you are asked to keep it the way Capt Sally asked for it to be the reply is arrogant. Talk about greedy, self-entitled and just plain nervy. Those who think of themselves as world nourishers need to see where their personal lives have shortcomings. That kind of norishment offered is draining, on bandwith and others jumping Sally's ship due to it. Think about it. For those who are new, not for nothing Sally was hacked 4 times in less than 3 years. We had a crazy Fundie hear named Joe who whould throw tantrums and rant Bible quotes since we refused to let him distract the hot talk of the current news. So the new Joe, no offense. But the last 3 years of AW has been a certain way that worked. It is rude to come into a new place and set the rules and act like you own it. This is Sally's ship, not yours, Respect her wishes. Astro-Political. When the victim/saviour stories stop maybe a personal blog can be afforded and you can post the way you want all that you want. That's being an adult.

Sally , when the hullabaloo of the wedding is over.. what say you? You are the bottom line, where the buck stops......not the posters.

Posted by: bhakti on May 26, 2006 12:53 AM

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12977648/

Treasury Secretary John Snow has signaled to the White House he is ready to resign once President Bush has picked a successor, administration officials and people close to Snow said Thursday.

They said Snow has made clear he eventually intends to return to the private sector. They spoke on condition of anonymity because Snow is not ready to discuss his plans publicly.

It’s unclear when Snow will offer his resignation, these people said.

More...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_W._Snow

John William Snow, Ph.D., LL.B. (born August 2, 1939, in Toledo, Ohio) is the 73rd and current United States Secretary of the Treasury. He replaced Secretary Paul O'Neill on February 3, 2003. There have been numerous reports that Snow will probably leave his position by the end of June 2006.

Posted by: Pat C on May 26, 2006 12:57 AM

http://www.daykeeperjournal.com/alex.shtml

Eclipse Notes

by Alex Miller-Mignone
The March eclipses have come and gone, leaving considerable havoc in their wake. The Lunar Eclipse of March 14 fell at 24 Virgo, and the succeeding Solar Eclipse of March 29 fell at 8 Aries. Among the afflicted were Slobodan Milosevic, former Serbian president on trial at the Hague for war crimes; Katherine Harris, former Florida Secretary of State, current Congresswoman and wannabe Senator; Andrew Card, newly resigned White House Chief of Staff; Charles Taylor, former Liberian president and war criminal; Cynthia McKinney, US Representative from Georgia; Brian Doyle, Deputy Press Secretary at the Department of Homeland Security; Jack Abramoff, former Capitol Hill lobbyist; and Tom DeLay, former House Majority Leader and about to be ex-Congressman.

More...

Posted by: Pat C on May 26, 2006 01:09 AM

Guess Who Shut Down The NSA-DOJ Inquiry?

by Steve Soto

Last week, we were told the Office of Professional Responsibility inside the Abu Gonzales Justice Department was forced to close an internal investigation into whether or not DOJ officials acted appropriately in authorizing the NSA wire-tapping program, a probe that was promised to Congress back in January. OPR said it closed its probe because they were unable to obtain security clearances presumably from the Director of National Intelligence for DOJ investigators to review NSA material.

We now find out, thanks to Shane Harris and Murray Waas, that in fact it wasn’t John Negroponte who shut down this investigation, because the evidence sought by the investigators was already in DOJ’s possession. It appears that the investigation was shut down by Abu Gonzales himself, who wanted to place the blame on Negroponte rather than shine the light on himself.

More...

http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/007778.php

Posted by: Pat C on May 26, 2006 01:34 AM

Bhakti, as far as I'm concerned, you're right on.

I have had very vivid dreams lately concerning something important coming up very soon. I keep hearing that I am needed, that I am in the right place at the right time. The world is evolving.

The world needs us, the children of the light. Please keep positive everyone, there is something very important happening. I'm not exactly sure what, but maybe earth changes or a horrific war or something like this. We will be needed to work the light against the dark.

At least that's what my dreams are telling me. Who knows? If you do, speak up!

Posted by: Laurie on May 26, 2006 02:07 AM

Rove-Novak Call Was Concern to Leak Investigators
By Murray Waas
The National Journal

Thursday 25 May 2006

On September 29, 2003, three days after it became known that the CIA had asked the Justice Department to investigate who leaked the name of covert CIA officer Valerie Plame, columnist Robert Novak telephoned White House senior adviser Karl Rove to assure Rove that he would protect him from being harmed by the investigation, according to people with firsthand knowledge of the federal grand jury testimony of both men.

Suspicious that Rove and Novak might have devised a cover story during that conversation to protect Rove, federal investigators briefed then-Attorney General John Ashcroft on the matter in the early stages of the investigation in fall 2003, according to officials with direct knowledge of those briefings.

Ashcroft oversaw...
http://news.nationaljournal.com/articles/0525nj1.htm

Posted by: Philomena on May 26, 2006 02:12 AM

In Re: New Super Third Party...
Foreshadowing of the New Moon in Gemini -- 5* Gemini 48' .. applying conjunction to US's natal and prog. Uranus in Gemini....
IN THE CAFFERTY FILE:
• Who could unite the country behind a third party?

You can weigh-in at http://CNN.com/CaffertyFile
Find out more at http://www.cnn.com/situationreport

Dear Nation,

All People, Media and Elected Officials
Attention Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich.

Many know there is a growing movement uniting all third parties for the "New Super Third Party"?

This includes all those who will come out of the broken democratic and republican parties, too.

Many believe, due to current circumstances, now is the time for this new party to easily succeed, taking over by leaps and bounds.

Considering this movement is backed by what is soon to be seen as the majority, I write you, Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich, in advance and ask your opinions on running for president and vice president in
2008?

I know for fact from the past several years of monitoring and networking with many political and patriotic groups all over the net, that you two are the two top trusted elected officials we have.

You two, together, in either role as president or vice president is the best way to defeat our broken system, in my opinion.

Please tell me this is somehow possible?

We're all so worried. We have children and grandchildren and you probably do, too, so we have to do something soon and something big
to save our selves.

If funds are needed the people are so desperate at this point that this would not even be a problem as I believe many groups and
individuals would provide all the funds necessary.

Then, there will be a message I just sent to one of my service
providers, SBC which is now AT&T, pertaining to the long time and
frustrating computer hacking I have been through due to my
activities.

Believe it or not but the phone number of the agent assigned to hack
my computer from Dayton Ohio is there for all to see in that note to
SBC.

Also, please see the website under construction at the very end here.

At this website check out the numbers of the many members in three of our main groups behind the recruiting and uniting of "The New Super Third Party" I was speaking about.
WeThePeople_United@yahoogroups.com,
TheRevolutionaryCoalition@yahoogroups.com,
WeThePeopleCoalition@yahoogroups.com.

We are connected to a huge network of groups and cover the masses in cyberspace.
We pyramid out to the multitudes and we are many, that's for sure.

We can win this war on corruption and begin to heal the nation if you and others you know like you, are game.

You could count on "We The People" to be very much behind you two, should you decide to run?
We are now the majority who see the need for change.

Posted by: Philomena on May 26, 2006 02:23 AM


Steve Bell takes on Bush/Blair...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/cartoons/0,,337484,00.html

Posted by: wv on May 26, 2006 02:48 AM

Bhakti wrote: "So the new Joe, no offense. But the last 3 years of AW has been a certain way that worked. It is rude to come into a new place and set the rules and act like you own it."

Wow, Bhakti, tell me how you really feel. I had no idea I had been upending rules and lording it over everyone here. Sheesh. Back to our regular program then.

Posted by: Joe on May 26, 2006 03:08 AM

Saturn in Leo - Chiron in Aquarius ....the reality of America: Freedom to Fascism..Ph
Cannes Premiere Gets Standing Ovation
Aaron Russo’s AMERICA: FREEDOM TO FASCISM
To Open Across America July 28

CANNES, FRANCE –
Aaron Russo’s incendiary political documentary which exposes many of the governmental organizations and entities that have abridged the freedoms of U.S. citizens
had its international premiere at Cannes and won a standing ovation.

The event, which was held on the beach and filled to capacity, was open to the public and drew a crowd of people who stood along the boardwalk to watch the film.

Through interviews with U.S. Congressmen,as well the former IRS Commissioner, former IRS and FBI agents, tax attorneys and authors, Russo proves conclusively that there is no law requiring citizens to pay a direct tax on their labor.
His film connects the dots
- between money creation,- federal income tax,- voter fraud,
- the national identity card (which becomes law in May 2008)
and the implementation of
- Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) technology to track citizens.

Neither left nor right-wing in perspective, the film concludes that the U.S. government is taking on the characteristics of a police state.
Doc will open on multiple screens in cities across the U.S. beginning July 28.
The international audience at Cannes as well as the European media has been fascinated by Russo’s fiery diatribe against the direction America is heading.
The discussion that followed the preview lasted for thirty minutes.

Actor Nick Nolte, in Cannes for the premiere of “Over The Hedge,” joined Russo during the premiere event. Nolte was the lead actor in
“Teachers,” a film produced by Russo that also starred Morgan Freeman.

Russo, who is best known as the producer of feature films including “The Rose” with Bette Midler and “Trading Places” with Eddie Murphy and Dan Aykroyd, wrote, produced, and directed the doc.

“I am disgusted by the direction America was heading,” says Russo.
“I made this movie because I want to live in a free country and I want my kids and grandkids to live in a free country.
The American people - must abandon the myth
that America is still the land of liberty that it once was.”

Russo’s doc already has a tremendous grass root groundswell behind it. The film has previewed in over twenty-five cities with sold out theatres and standing ovations.
The website, http://www.freedomtofascism.com has been had over five hundred thousand (500,000) streams of the video trailer.
Additionally, through the website and from grassroots screenings, over $100,000 in non-deductible donations has been collected to help with the theatrical release.

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Posted by: Philomena on May 26, 2006 04:23 AM

HMMM! I experienced a site full of color and texture. I learned much about ways of seeing the world, of coming to a philosophic relization.What is all this about what is appropriate and what is not? This site is just out there in the world and sometimes the mind is dominant and sometimes the heart is. Could we have venus square mars here? HMMM!
How is this for personal? Today I am 59 years old. I have had a wonderful time . A day of sailing after months of storm.
I vote for a site of serious study of astrology and politics and for a site full of the rambling screaches of us crones and the musings of the dreamy, intorverted poets

world

Posted by: clymela on May 26, 2006 04:31 AM

Bhakti, I've always enjoyed your insights and you are right. Sally has the last word. But what has kept me visiting this board for the past two years is the endles variety of posters and we all have a personal story. Granted, some of the personal stuff has gotten, shall we say, a little thick, but if it can help explain an aspect, if it can help someone here who needs it, what is the harm? Most of the time, as soon as someone posts something new, it grabs everyone's attention and the chatter goes back to the topic. Even though I lurk more than post these days, I enjoy the various posts although as a political neophyte (sp?) I am more partial to the astrological than political. But, one other thing, the blurbs from the articles do need to be kept short. There is only so much bandwidth.

And a belated welcome to Joe and a belated thank you to Morgana.

Posted by: Teresa on May 26, 2006 04:46 AM

* Enron verdict chart

http://planetwaves.net/chart.php?c=enron

Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 26, 2006 05:05 AM

WOW, the energy is heating up here, there and everywhere. Bhakti, I want to thank you for your (if not politically correct speech) words and speaking up for the Astro/Political site that Astroworld is intended to be. The Dream Laurie had was very interesting and does relate to energy that's around, just as so many dreams do and they add a great deal. I don't pretend that AW is or can be all things to all people all the time and I am conscious of the long long posts that few read and take up bandwidth.

There are posters who have off-line conversations that are longer and include material that isn't necessarily shared here. Some of the bigger blogs absolutely do have a ton of rules on posting and what can or cannot be on a particular thread, some have even made separate threads to address different issues. I don't have that capability.

I don't say this has to be 100 percent political/astrology 100 percent of the time but post after post of personal experiences is getting pretty far off the reservation. I'm not "Skinner" on DU that pulls people in or just regularly deletes threads or locks people out, but I do appreciate people being mindful of the mission of this blog.

Morgana, I loved this article. I have heard that an "Inconvenient Truth" is playing to standing ovations. As you and I have talked, at the 2000 Election Mercury was retrograde at 29 Libra, and the 2008 election will find a 29 degree Libra direct Mercury. If I had to take an educated astrologers guess I would say there is a potential of what was "wronged" in 2000 would be "righted" in 2008. So if Gore runs, well hmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Posted by: Sally on May 26, 2006 05:13 AM

Sad, pathetic, desperate, sickening... these two
Dude psychopaths will never miss even a meal...

* bush, blair Concede Missteps on Iraq, But Leaders Say War Was Justified

[B&B] last night acknowledged a series of errors in managing the occupation of Iraq that have made the conflict more difficult & more damaging to the US image abroad, even as they insisted that enough progress has been made that other nations should support the nascent Iraqi govt.

In a joint news conference, bush said he had used inappropriate "tough talk"--such as saying "bring 'em on" in reference to insurgents--that he said "sent the wrong signal to people." He also said the "biggest mistake" for the US [?!?!?!?] was the Abu Ghraib prison scandal, in which guards photographed themselves sexually tormenting Iraqi prisoners, spawning revulsion worldwide. "We've been paying for that for a long period of time," he said. ... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501316.html

Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 26, 2006 05:20 AM

Well things have become clear, and this is a relief. I take responsibility for veering away from pure politics. My interest is far more into astrology. I will certainly curtail my posts, since I have a difficult time following these people and their actions. But the convoluted path has been enlightening, nonetheless.

Posted by: jm on May 26, 2006 05:59 AM

* Last week ought to have been a good one for [necroporn]s in Congress: The House passed a budget, [booosh] signed more tax cuts & immigration lege advanced in the Senate with the blessing of the WH. But within days of the budget passing, [necro]s fell into an ugly spending fight, impugning one another's honesty/patriotism on the House floor. Public resentment of oil-company profits, meanwhile, opened the door to a rout by environmentalists on the first 2007 appropriations bill. Even an elaborately staged tax-cut publicity event unraveled at the foot of the Capitol steps.

Like an aging centurion in the last days of Rome, Rep tom delay, the former House maj leader, watched with dismay as his once-disciplined troops broke ranks & joined in opposing Alaska timber interests & oil-company drilling on fed lands. "[necro]s are voting green tonight," said the Texan, not hiding his relief at leaving Congress next mo. ... http://online.wsj.com/public/article_print/SB114852164473662603-tIRsdE_KdG7HF5y4ocM9Z5Bf72U_20070525.html

Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 26, 2006 06:24 AM

This is just a comment -- not intended to address anyone in particular: If ya can't take the heat --get out of the kitchen -- reality is multidimensional /quintessential -- astrology is but one symbolic language which attempts to articulate (in retrospect) the future actions/pattern of our collective human beehive. Politics is the human game played by champions -- objective observations are made by those who stand outside human driven politics and/or belief systems to survive.

As far as I know -- nothing has been proved to be an absolute -- except for the Sun rising -- the Moon becoming full -- rain falling -- time does not standstill -- gravity is a fact -- and we all die in the time - fate written by an invisible hand that is not written by a priest, priestess, rabbi, imam, politician or man made god/dess -- with or without a belief system or a political agenda life will go on - and worms rule the earth -- humble little irrigators that they are.

Nothing is worth fighting or killing another person or culture for..regardless of ones belief or political ideology. Maybe this is what Pluto is about -- a void between nature and spirit -- the testing ground of the soul -- to stand alone in ones truth -- or silently acquiesce to a mundane power driven by a shadow of its own death.

Human beings are irrational at best -- psychotic and deranged at worst -- were we anything else -- we may have a chance to save ourselves from ourselves -- it is pretty much over for this civilization -- like so many other civilizations in the past -- we LOST the true meaning of life...
BALANCE and HUMILITY.

Posted by: Philomena on May 26, 2006 06:50 AM

Philomena that is one of the absolute all time best descriptions of Pluto I've heard.

Posted by: Sally on May 26, 2006 07:01 AM

"we LOST the true meaning of life...
BALANCE and HUMILITY."

Tres interressant. It makes me wonder about that proverbial true meaning.

Posted by: jm on May 26, 2006 07:08 AM

I'm in a quandary myself.

Posted by: jm on May 26, 2006 07:13 AM

Thanks to those who enlightened me with their thoughts about Gore. But Geez would like some of the skilled astrologers who pop in here to put their reputation(s) on the line. Even if they'll only go just as far as the mid term elections coming up. I'm getting there so feel I can comment.
He could well be pressurized into running. But if he came to me for advice I'd suggest he use the good/powerful energies Jupiter/Pluto around 2008 to do work on himself and his pet projects. As to prediction isn't that part of what astrology is all about. I'm uncomfortable with the "well on the one hand..." kind of astrology.

OK so he was talking about economists (or was he maybe having a dig at his consulting astrologer?)but just love this quote by Harry Truman.
"Give me a one-handed economist! All my economists say is, well on the one hand but on the other hand"
Go visit the interview with an astrologer who puts his reputation on the line every day http://www.skyscript.co.uk/jfrawley.html and it's not sun sign stuff.
OK so some of his predictions could be described as being frivilous e.g. results of soccer matches but geez I've got to admire the guy's guts

Posted by: Stan on May 26, 2006 07:28 AM

Times are changing my sugar cookies.

Posted by: jm on May 26, 2006 07:47 AM

Stan -- If there is such a thing as a perfect world (sic) -- please don't laugh at my naivete --Al Gore would benefit in leaps and bounds with *we the people* should he decide to separate (divorce) his political affiliation from the *demo-corrupt* party -- and come from his Aries Sun - to LEAD the NEW SUPER THIRD PARTY into the future. (This will take about 10 years to become a political reality)....
I would like to suggest that we call the New Super Third Party* the
*Jeffersonian Constitutional Party*
As for economics -- the US has been taken out by the intrepid Pluto in our 2nd house since 1913 w/ the flaw income tax amendment and the establishment of the Federal Reserve -- realities that cannot be ignored -- and the only way we the people could (realistically) recover our economic autonomy -- would be to bring about a revolution in areas that this country is still not yet prepared to face............. it is called -- UNPLUGGING.

If you recall -- our dear Al claimed to be the forefather of the internet... but Bill Gates kinda one upped him on that -- by giving the NSA a backdoor key to Microsoft OS systems way back in the late 80's...
We are all pretty much stuck with the way it is... it would take a hero -- or heroine ...or perhaps many heroes and heroines who are duly informed and not afraid to face the consequences of 10 years of total chaos....in their and all of our lives.

The secret of a tyrant or dictator's rule is that the people in their land are under the spell that all is well -- order prevails (even if it is a police state0 -- and the chaos of the underprivileged is shuttled very quietly out of sight to detention camps or inner city ghettos.


Posted by: Philomena on May 26, 2006 07:59 AM

"Get Cheney" -- Depo of Libby before the Grand jury..
http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/files/Libby_060524_FitzEx.pdf

Posted by: Philomena on May 26, 2006 08:34 AM

jm wrote: "Tres interressant. It makes me wonder about that proverbial true meaning."

Tres interrassant -- is French ? for very interested? Not sure as I am not fluent in French..

Meaning of life according to Philomena -- TO CARE -- CARING FOR THE SOUL -- ANIMA -- OF ALL LIFE. To act with care toward self and all others.

I accept the brutal realities -- as there is no other way to understand the importance of caring if one does not accept the harshness -- unspeakable -- brutal --- uncaring -- loveless -- meaningless - cruel -- offensive --- crimes we are capable of committing against our own and others.
Some of these acts are senseless -- insofar as we commit them on a daily basis -- unconsciously -- some acts of inhumanity are strategic -- intent to harm -- inflict pain without care or concern --
To me -- in the singular -- the meaning of life is to be as aware of my own carelessness -- inhumanity and senseless acts -- in the hope that I do not commit these egregious acts on another -- and thus render my own life as meaningless. I know that I will die -- I have no idea why I was born -- I would hope there was a meaning in the interim -- perhaps karma -- reincarnation -- who knows...but the meaning for me is the transmission of consciousness -- without attachment to any concept or belief.

Meaning of life is not descriptive or definitive -- it is what breathes inside of me and you and all that is...

Posted by: Philomena on May 26, 2006 08:57 AM

Philo.

That's French for very 'interesting'.

Posted by: jm on May 26, 2006 09:21 AM

Politics comes from the root word polis meaning city. So I think it means how people function in societies and how the society functions as a whole.
I would think also that how we all get along is the key to this entity.

When new people jump into a blog I think they can be nervous and not immediately show their best facets. Some are apparent though. I like when they take their time to get the lay of the land and see what develops. Actually, I find it fascinating to see how they explore the new terrain. Sometimes people get an instant aversion ar affection that doesn't change, but sometimes the more you get to know someone the more you like the creature. There are always rough patches, but most are manageable.
I really think that this is the basis for politics. Relaxing and enjoying, getting to know one another, could(?) translate to better societies. Never know.

Even if you think your territory is exactly a certain way, sometimes new people can find nooks you didn't know.
People are great explorers.

It reminds me of the small village when a stranger comes in and you go through the rituals of meeting, exchanging gifts, bartering, and developing/or not a continuing relationship. There's s lot going on and I think it has repercussions. The greeting is especially interesting.
I wonder if most people come in peace just for their own protection?

Posted by: jm on May 26, 2006 10:03 AM

Sally

When you offered an alternative to the Godot/Rove wait the magnitude of the response revealed something. I think more and more, people are sick and tired, fed up, and weary of going round and round so repetitiously with these politicians' crimes and no resolution. It could drive any creature batty. They are tired of the Truthout type roller coaster that just went on when manipulations rule, expectations soar and nothing happens. How long can we spin our wheels and still be able to rock ourselves out? Enough times, and some people will seek other things. New places, new ideas, something else. Something that works.

Posted by: jm on May 26, 2006 11:03 AM

"..the convoluted path has been most enlightening.."

only for those who think/write convoluted.
not for the rest of us. the writng style is poor and hard to follow. after a while...who cares. not what i call enlightened. it's cheap...taking and using sally's generosity.

sally, thanks for speaking up. Hope the new and old aw's respect your words. maybe listen instead of talking so much. sharing, without dominating.

Posted by: bhakti on May 26, 2006 11:16 AM

i dont think this blog is here to entertain us 24/7. its best and highest purpose could be to find the truth, disseminate it and encourage our own and other participation in the political process. I dont think any of us needs filler/fluff to distract us from what is really happening on the political scene. Dont feel compelled to jump in and save us from boredom or frustration by posting the ramblings that we have to wade thru to get to the real nuggets that can always be found here. Yes, i lurk - - work full time and come here to get info that i can use to quietly educate myself and others who are similarly without the time to do the original research. In the 2 years i have been reading this blog, i have rarely found disinfo. The posters are very accurate and have some very intersting politcal/astro insights and terrific links. I would hate to see this blog turn into something else (is the national situation any better knowing that an individual poster's ascendant is conjunct his whatever = = a long while back i thought one of the few rules on this blog was that personal astrology was not discussed). Altho jm may find the stream of consciousness musings a much needed distraction, in mho they just take energy away from the path to resolution of the serious issues confronting this country. a little like congress spending its time on immigration, flag burning, gay marriage, ad infinitum, instead of the iraq war, health care, tax relief for the middle class, erosion of the boundaries between church and state, etc. etc.

Posted by: on May 26, 2006 12:18 PM

At the risk of incurring further reprimands, I wasn't aware of a prohibition against sharing of personal astro information. Since others were doing so, I assumed it was OK. Perhaps new posters ought to be directed to a list of rules.

My apologies to all, esp. Sally.

Posted by: Joe on May 26, 2006 12:33 PM

Everybody. Mars is in late Cancer, the most personal and intimate sign of all. It is completely natural and in harmony with things for the personal to find an outlet now. There are good reasons for this. If you let it out and go now, get it over with, it won't be an issue next weekend when Mars goes into Leo. The more we face it now the less bothersome it will be then. I guarantee it.
The political dramas will be renewed in Leo, especially as it's headed for Saturn. You'll see.

Posted by: jm on May 26, 2006 01:12 PM

This is a video clip, with sound. Once again we have the lack of seriousness, hiding the true agendas of this cheap labor corporate government is in action.

Let them eat cake.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13190.htm

Posted by: Pat C on May 26, 2006 02:02 PM

Media Matters for today

http://mediamatters.org/

Posted by: Pat C on May 26, 2006 02:16 PM

argghh jm i dont think you realize how patronizing you sound

Posted by: on May 26, 2006 02:25 PM

Morgana, Gore got a rave review on the movie review portion of the Today show this morning. Considering the NBC owner (GE), it must have been galling for them.

Great link.
http://www.fightglobalwarming.com/

Posted by: Pat C on May 26, 2006 02:43 PM


"Victory"? Forget it

Bush is trying to keep Americans from abandoning his disastrous war by claiming victory is at hand. But even his own generals know that's a lie.

By Sidney Blumenthal

05/25/06 "Salon" -- -- When new Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Kamel al-Maliki unveiled his government last week, five months after his country's elections, and was unable to appoint ministers of defense and interior, President Bush hailed it as a "turning point." And that was just one month after Maliki's mentor, former Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jafaari, to whom he had been loyal deputy, installed in the position through the support of radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, was forced to relinquish his office through U.S. pressure.

Bush has been proclaiming Iraq at a turning point for years. "Turning point" is a frequent and recurring talking point, often taken up by the full chorus of the president ("We've reached another great turning point," Nov. 6, 2003; "A turning point will come in less than two weeks," June 18, 2004), vice president ("I think about when we look back and get some historical perspective on this period, I'll believe that the period we were in through 2005 was, in fact, a turning point," Feb. 7, 2006), secretary of state and secretary of defense, and ringing down the echo chamber.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13182.htm

Posted by: wv on May 26, 2006 03:00 PM

Hayden has been confirmed as Director of the CIA. 78 to 15

Posted by: Pat C on May 26, 2006 03:02 PM

Morgana, you're on fire! I can hardly wait for your New Moon article. And your question regarding Ken-Piggy-Lay and pardon? I had the same question -- or premonition.

Now. . .the personal issues. It's ALL personal. Self is the only mechanism we have to interpret the world until the third-dimension veil is lifted. HOWEVER. . .this is Sally's site. Donate. Be respectful of her stated perimeters AND ONE ANOTHER! That's my interpretation. :)

Posted by: karen on May 26, 2006 03:03 PM

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2006/05/26/visas/print.html

What's good for Bill Gates...

The Microsoft mogul says America needs more foreign engineers and programmers to compete. Critics say it's all about cheap labor.

Posted by: Pat C on May 26, 2006 03:07 PM

Frankly, I have enjoyed some of the posts over the past few threads. I have come to understand
the posters better, and where they are coming from. And how their views of the world are based
on their experiences.
Too, we can only go over this "crap" so many times. Solutions seem to be coming very slowly.
And we are no further ahead than we were six months ago. Granted Libby, DeLay, Abramhof, Ney,
Skilling,Gross and Lay are no longer in the mix,
but I for one don't see that much change. I look
in vain daily for the enlightenment of the masses.
The solid base of the right wing is not melting
away. There is a lot of work to be done yet.
So let us not slink away and hide and lurk.
Welcome to ALL of the new posters you have brought
forth new ideas and new light. This is one big
"family", and like all families it is not perfect,
but deep down we need each other.

Posted by: wv on May 26, 2006 03:11 PM

Scary stuff IMHO.

http://talkleft.com/new_archives/014946.html

Posted by: Pat C on May 26, 2006 03:21 PM

and here....

http://talkleft.com/new_archives/014943.html

Posted by: Pat C on May 26, 2006 03:22 PM

BRAVO!!! WV!!!

Posted by: Cybear on May 26, 2006 03:23 PM

wv, i find that people respond to facts. Get enuf facts out there and people will listen. I do not adhere to prominent theory on this and other blogs that american citizens are dumb "sheeple" Give them some facts that can be corroborated and that can be said in short sound bites (no one has any time any more - - they're just trying to make ends meet). Thats why this blog is such a great resource when it's serving its highest and best use. And by the way, we are seeing progress. the polls are turning around and showing that the masses ARE seeing the light. They see the corruption, they see the special interest issues, they are no longer in favor of the war, bush's popularity and effectiveness numbers are at their lowest yet. I think our case has been made and accepted; our number 1 issue now is to make sure our votes count. Dont be discouraged: Loonies just make more noise.

Posted by: on May 26, 2006 03:34 PM


From NY Times

May 26, 2006
Op-Ed Columnist
A Test of Our Character
By PAUL KRUGMAN
In his new movie, "An Inconvenient Truth," Al Gore suggests that there are three reasons it's hard to get action on global warming. The first is boiled-frog syndrome: because the effects of greenhouse gases build up gradually, at any given moment it's easier to do nothing. The second is the perception, nurtured by a careful disinformation campaign, that there's still a lot of uncertainty about whether man-made global warming is a serious problem. The third is the belief, again fostered by disinformation, that trying to curb global warming would have devastating economic effects.

I'd add a fourth reason, which I'll talk about in a minute. But first, let's notice that Mr. Gore couldn't have asked for a better illustration of disinformation campaigns than the reaction of energy-industry lobbyists and right-wing media organizations to his film.

The cover story in the current issue of National Review is titled "Scare of the Century." As evidence that global warming isn't really happening, it offers the fact that some Antarctic ice sheets are getting thicker — a point also emphasized in a TV ad by the Competitive Enterprise Institute, which is partly financed by large oil companies, whose interests it reliably represents.

Curt Davis, a scientist whose work is cited both by the institute and by National Review, has already protested. "These television ads," he declared in a press release, "are a deliberate effort to confuse and mislead the public about the global warming debate." He points out that an initial increase in the thickness of Antarctica's interior ice sheets is a predicted consequence of a warming planet, so that his results actually support global warming rather than refuting it.

Even as the usual suspects describe well-founded concerns about global warming as hysteria, they issue hysterical warnings about the economic consequences of environmentalism. "Al Gore's global warming movie: could it destroy the economy?" Fox News asked.

Well, no, it couldn't. There's some dispute among economists over how forcefully we should act to curb greenhouse gases, but there's broad consensus that even a very strong program to reduce emissions would have only modest effects on economic growth. At worst, G.D.P. growth might be, say, one-tenth or two-tenths of a percentage point lower over the next 20 years. And while some industries would lose jobs, others would gain.

Actually, the right's panicky response to Mr. Gore's film is probably a good thing, because it reveals for all to see the dishonesty and fear-mongering on which the opposition to doing something about climate change rests.

But "An Inconvenient Truth" isn't just about global warming, of course. It's also about Mr. Gore. And it is, implicitly, a cautionary tale about what's been wrong with our politics.

Why, after all, was Mr. Gore's popular-vote margin in the 2000 election narrow enough that he could be denied the White House? Any account that neglects the determination of some journalists to make him a figure of ridicule misses a key part of the story. Why were those journalists so determined to jeer Mr. Gore? Because of the very qualities that allowed him to realize the importance of global warming, many years before any other major political figure: his earnestness, and his genuine interest in facts, numbers and serious analysis.

And so the 2000 campaign ended up being about the candidates' clothing, their mannerisms, anything but the issues, on which Mr. Gore had a clear advantage (and about which his opponent was clearly both ill informed and dishonest).

I won't join the sudden surge of speculation about whether "An Inconvenient Truth" will make Mr. Gore a presidential contender. But the film does make a powerful case that Mr. Gore is the sort of person who ought to be running the country.

Since 2000, we've seen what happens when people who aren't interested in the facts, who believe what they want to believe, sit in the White House. Osama bin Laden is still at large, Iraq is a mess, New Orleans is a wreck. And, of course, we've done nothing about global warming.

But can the sort of person who would act on global warming get elected? Are we — by which I mean both the public and the press — ready for political leaders who don't pander, who are willing to talk about complicated issues and call for responsible policies? That's a test of national character. I wonder whether we'll pass.


Posted by: wv on May 26, 2006 04:13 PM

Thanks for that wv.

All blessings to Krugman and Al Gore!

Posted by: Pat C on May 26, 2006 04:20 PM

Sorry for joining in verboten conversation on the last couple of threads. I've been lurking here three years and I've seen a lot of personal information shared, frankly I find it to be somewhat stimulating and it often puts astrological concepts into perpective for me. I also enjoy reading the occasional personal post, it breaks up the monolithic dread that I constantly feel these days and lets me know there's someone else out there; that life is going on in some way and I am connecting with those of like mind. I think we have a lot to share to put this current world and astrology in perspective. For example, I can put a human face on Lay's (may he rot) evil- my parents lost their life savings to the bastard.In my case it's not just a political abstraction that happened to other people. But sorry, I guess that means it's personal. If I recall correctly the 'crone' thing got started with a discussion of Pluto in Cap and speculation on the future political involvement of older people in our politics. It was probably one of the first times I got an idea of the age and gender of some of the people I was interacting with. Must we lack human faces to accurately report and analyze? And if you don't think gender is political what with this crackdown on women's rights (pre-pregnant, gimme a break)I'm not sure exactly what is. I shall return to lurking. I can understand certain rules need to be followed, but I'm not sure how staying totally virgo-fixated 'on topic' is going to change politics or this election cycle one iota. Seems we are often the choir here, preaching to each other and sharing our outrage and revelations, but far be it for me to intrude. Blog on guys, take care Juno
PS: to hit the astrological ball back into the court, any takes on the meaning and possible repercussions of moon and mercury being both 'out of bounds' at this new moon?

Posted by: juno jones on May 26, 2006 05:03 PM


Galloway says murder of Blair would be 'justified'

By Oliver Duff
Published: 26 May 2006

The Respect MP George Galloway has said it would be morally justified for a suicide bomber to murder Tony Blair.

In an interview with GQ magazine, the reporter asked him: "Would the assassination of, say, Tony Blair by a suicide bomber - if there were no other casualties - be justified as revenge for the war on Iraq?"

Mr Galloway replied: "Yes, it would be morally justified. I am not calling for it - but if it happened it would be of a wholly different moral order to the events of 7/7. It would be entirely logical and explicable. And morally equivalent to ordering the deaths of thousands of innocent people in Iraq - as Blair did."

The Labour MP Stephen Pound, a persistent critic of Mr Galloway during previous controversies, told The Sun that the Respect MP for Bethnal Green and Bow in east London was "disgraceful and truly twisted".

He said: "These comments take my breath away. Every time you think he can't sink any lower he goes and stuns you again. It's reprehensible to say it would be justified for a suicide bomber to assassinate anyone."

The Stop the War Coalition criticised Mr Galloway: "We don't agree with Tony Blair's actions, but neither do we agree with suicide bombers or assassinations."

Just hours after four bomb attacks killed 52 people on London's transport system last July, Mr Galloway said the city had "paid the price" for Mr Blair's decision to go to war in Iraq and Afghanistan. "Ten thousand Osama bin Ladens have been created at least by the events of the last two years," he told MPs in the Commons that day.

Mr Pound said at the time: "I thought George had sunk to the depths of sickness in the past but this exceeds anything he has done before." The Armed Forces minister, Adam Ingram, accused the Respect MP of "dipping his poisonous tongue in a pool of blood".

Mr Galloway yesterday made a surprise appearance on Cuban television with the Caribbean island's Communist dictator, Fidel Castro - whom he defended as a "lion" in a political world populated by "monkeys".

Mr Galloway shocked panellists on a live television discussion show in Havana by emerging on set mid-transmission to offer passionate support for Castro. Looking approvingly into each others' eyes, the pair embraced.

The Respect MP George Galloway has said it would be morally justified for a suicide bomber to murder Tony Blair.

In an interview with GQ magazine, the reporter asked him: "Would the assassination of, say, Tony Blair by a suicide bomber - if there were no other casualties - be justified as revenge for the war on Iraq?"

Mr Galloway replied: "Yes, it would be morally justified. I am not calling for it - but if it happened it would be of a wholly different moral order to the events of 7/7. It would be entirely logical and explicable. And morally equivalent to ordering the deaths of thousands of innocent people in Iraq - as Blair did."

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/article601356.ece

Posted by: wv on May 26, 2006 05:06 PM


Somehow the whole article got posted rather
than the few paragraphs I highlighted...sorry

Posted by: wv on May 26, 2006 05:08 PM

Bravo from me, too, wv.

We all respect Sally for many good reasons, primary among them is that this is her blog and she pays for the bandwidth, the costs of which I know little about, but it is proper to kick in and donate every so often (see lower left margin of home page to donate). I appreciate that when she says "stay mindful," it's a gentle way of telling us to watch the length and be reasonable about content, but she doesn't expect all personal sharing to be eliminated. That's what gives this board humanity and color, especially when astrological associations are made. I see ALL posters here as very bright, intelligent, thoughtful, articulate, and, yes, brilliant. I appreciate all of you and hope newer contributers feel welcome, as you are. Hell, a little controversy thrown into the mix livens the drama up once in a while, as long as it doesn't become a personal attack and stays honest and respectful. jm, you are just great and I find your analyses quite well thought out; Bhakti, your blunt honesty is often on target and very refreshing but can be a hurtful - I don't agree with the philosphy of just tell the truth no matter what - a balance is needed between truth and tact; Joe, Philomena & the rest of you, please don't stop expressing yourselves. There are times when I feel left out of the conversations but I just wait until I am inspired to contribute. As jm say, Mars is stil in Cancer and the sun is where? Gemini (!) so we can expect lots of communication, albeit somewhat personal. As my husband likes to remind me (and my friends, and therapist), manage, don't micromanage. Finally, I am VERY heartened by the reception to "An Inconvenient Truth," and what was reported in the WSJ article about "Cracks in Republican Unity." Change is coming and, although there will be painful times, I wouldn't give up on our civilization quite yet.

Namaste.

Posted by: on May 26, 2006 05:20 PM

The last anon comment was, me, Sharon (from New Orleans). In case you didn't read the WJS article on the Repubs fighting each other, the really great thing is that they are breaking ranks and some are voting green. Tom Delay is lamenting about all his hard work going down the drain....

Posted by: Sharon on May 26, 2006 05:25 PM

If there was ever anyone's hard work worth going down the drain, Tom Delay's is right on the top of my list!! More "Green" votes!

And, Sharon, couldn't agree more.

Posted by: Neith on May 26, 2006 05:34 PM

Joe, it is ok to put up some personal astro facts or ask questions about personal data, sometimes people have some really helpful insights in a generic sense. I think what was being discussed was the tendency exclude others by just discussing one person (I'm not sure that's what it was but I think so) As an example, my story about Barbaro and the Saturn oppose his Mars (plus a couple of other dangerous aspects) and Rove has some similar aspects coming up. If I had a client with those aspects or if anyone on this blog has transiting Saturn square, conj. or oppose Mars those are (amoung other things) accident aspects or bad teeth aspects and I would caution a client to be careful and that's appropriate on this site.

Another example is my youngest daughter has transiting Mars conjuncting her Saturn and square her Sun, she was in an automobile accident two days ago (she's ok) but when Mars/Saturn are rolling around each other people need to be careful of accidents and I think this blog is the place to remind ourselves of that.

As a ps, Mars is at 25 Cancer and anyone with Jupiter or Sun or Venus at 25 Cancer will have a wonderful weekend and too much food and sun.

Posted by: Sally on May 26, 2006 06:15 PM

Someone here recently bemoaned not being able to see a bigger shift of Americans waking up. I just read this bit on DKOS and it brought a smile to my face, let alone that Galloway the English dude is suggesting someone somewhere could justifiably assassinate the Poodle. Anyway for those who need their fancy tickled...

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/5/26/92356/7529

Posted by: Morgana on May 26, 2006 07:41 PM

How the Senators voted on Hayden... scroll down a bit. My my Di Fi is making it very hard for me to vote for her.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/5/26/135111/792

Posted by: Morgana on May 26, 2006 07:47 PM


Morgana

Now one can see why I don't vote for either of
my Senators - Byrd and Rockefeller - when I lived
in San Francisco Swinestein came into a bar to
beg for votes - I immediately went to the upstairs
bar, but not before shouting over the railing "I
won't stay in the same room as that bitch." You
couldn't trust her in the 80's. Did you see that
she just bought a $16 million house on the last
block of Pacific Ave? I like Boxer even if her
daughter is married to Hillary's brother.

Posted by: wv on May 26, 2006 08:11 PM



Thought For the Day


26 May

Every so often a theme becomes obvious over a day or two’s readings, and over this entire last three weeks it’s become glaringly obvious to me that a lot of people are going to get triggered during the second week of June when Mars hits Saturn. Even now, the rational tells me that everything is as it was three weeks ago, but the irrational tells me that the intensity and compression of energy in the last three weeks is significant and accelerating. And this is backed up by others’ experiences. I think this will continue escalating until a number of pivotal decision points are reached, around the tenth of June, so hold on- it’s going to be a rocky ride!

www.stevejudd.co.uk

I have Saturn and Mars at 4 degrees Capricorn
wonder what that means....


Posted by: wv on May 26, 2006 08:43 PM

Just found this informative site for those of you who like to compare historical perspectives.
http://www.celtic-casimir.aunz.com/hermetica/horos_ev.html
Its interesting to see that "Pluto oppose GC" is listed as when Lord Rutherford (a NZ'er) announced his nuclear theory. Also the first commercial flight. Now that Pluto is conjunct, it seems to be bringing nuclear and flight issues to the fore again.
And for the kiwi scotsman, if you see this, I would be interested in chatting about NZ's mundane chart. Drop me an email if you feel so inclined.

Posted by: kiwijeanie on May 26, 2006 09:53 PM

That's fascinating, kiwi. Thanks.

wv. Your post on the personal was one of the best I've read. Logical and understanding. And sweet. Even Cybear chimed in.

Sharon. Your words were infinitely soothing. I guess gentleness and wisdom are things you are born with.

And juno, darn. I love your posts.

I don't worry about people and self expression. If someone hurts you repeatedly, eventually it will come back to that person's own self. Trying to stab the truth into people violently will in time bring the sword back home. It's a 360 degree world. All is fair.

This is why I love astrology. Whenever I get a transit to my Saturn in Leo or my ruler, the Sun, I get a lesson in self awareness. If an attack is required, my nemesis and her gang are there to do the job. Yesterday Mars was in a beeline to my 25 deg. Cancer Sun and I expected an attack. The day started with an accident at home and continued all day in that vein.
So to my attackers?
Thank you for not totally demolishing me. For teaching me.
I don't blame my enemies. It's me attacking my own self. It's me, an Aries rising, learning self defense and how not to lash back, lest I get lashed again. People are symbols and all teach us something, although maybe not what they intend.

Good societies depend on the goodness of every individual. I think it would border on the negligently criminal not to use our combined astro knowledge to help one another personally improve our characters. This will have political ramifications. The blogs are becoming salons and think tanks where the germ plasm for future political growth is developing.

"I have Saturn and Mars at 4 degrees Capricorn
wonder what that means...."

wv, a whole book could be written on this powerful conj. alone.
Mars/Saturn is the lesson of restraint. For the purpose of consolidating, focusing, and "using" energy for achievement. The key phrase for Cap is "I use".
The best description I know of for the conj. is having your foot on the brake and the gas pedal at the same time.
The restraint is double edged as it gives a classy, dignified reserve to the personality but a personal frustration in often having to hold one's self back. Mars fights, kicks, and screams to be let out of Saturn's structure (sometimes perceived as chains) but with the Cap factor, he's stuck. With this configuration comes talent and a calling to accomplish something important for the preservation and smooth running of society. Logic and wisdom are included.
The key is harnessing the Mars energy without strangling it.
Pluto is coming and will unleash the power, so it's not to soon to get ready.
The same degree factor adds to its strength.

Posted by: jm on May 26, 2006 11:24 PM

wv: I believe what Steve Judd is refering to is the upcoming conjunction between mars & saturn in Leo @ 8 degrees on about June 16th. Doesn't Bush have important planets around there?! Ah yes, that hits his ASC/mercury conjunction . . .

Posted by: Neith on May 27, 2006 12:02 AM

Big win for Internet freedom.

"Thanks to your thousands of calls and letters, we took a major step forward this week in the fight for Internet freedom.

A bipartisan majority on the House Judiciary Committee yesterday passed the "Internet Freedom and Nondiscrimination Act" -- a good bill that would use antitrust law to protect Network Neutrality"

I'm celebrating tonight.

Posted by: jm on May 27, 2006 12:48 AM

That's wonderful news, jm!

Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 27, 2006 01:47 AM

WOW-so glad I went to work without posting any of my thoughts about the posts of yesterday. I felt so alienated and shut down that I wondered if I would have to give up this site.
I am definately a "newbie" and do have a definite subjective attitude and I was frightened by the harshness, At first I marked the criticism up to the mars sq venus transit but then everything seemed to turn mean and I thought OOOH I am out of here!
I will definately donate-I don't know how it is done but I imagine that someone will explain-I am not very sophisticated about how the internet works but am very willing to learn and do my part.
Can someone explain "out of bounds" as in mercury and the moon being out of bounds. This was not part of my early studies and I guess I haven't kept up.

Posted by: clymela on May 27, 2006 02:35 AM


The Busheviks

By Bill Gallagher

Warrantless searches, phone trolling, torture, kidnapping, indefinite imprisonment without charges, denial of legal representation, you name it. It's all legal. Just ask Attorney General Alberto Gonzales. If the president says it's legal, it's legal. When we're at war, the Constitution, the Congress and civility are out the door.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13198.htm

Posted by: wv on May 27, 2006 03:12 AM


Neith

That will be square my N and S Nodes at 8 degress
Taurus and Scorpio respectively

Posted by: wv on May 27, 2006 03:14 AM


Former Rep. Jefferson aide sentenced to 8 years
Pleaded guilty to role in bribery scandal involving Va. investment exec

Updated: 4:22 p.m. ET May 26, 2006

ALEXANDRIA, Va. - A former aide to Rep. William Jefferson was sentenced Friday to eight years in federal prison for his role in a bribery scandal.

Brett Pfeffer, 37, is cooperating in an ongoing probe and may be eligible for a sentence reduction afterward, a prosecutor said.

He pleaded guilty in January to helping broker deals between the Louisiana Democrat and a northern Virginia investment executive for whom Pfeffer worked. That executive has not been identified in court documents.

http://www.rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fmsnbc.msn.com%2Fid%2F12992866%2F

Posted by: wv on May 27, 2006 03:35 AM

...a little more on the Dixie Chicks...and us.

Dixie Chicks: Heroes

http://www.crooksandliars.com/...

snip

Denis Wright’s diary :: ::
After all the flack and b.s. The Dixie Chicks had to endure at the hands of the hate-filled wingnut freaks in this country, they’ve come back with a gorgeous album of original songs. The album is called “Taking the Long Way”.

“Not Ready to Make Nice” is an amazing song of courage and patriotism that makes me proud, for a change, to be an American. These three women are standing up to the outrageous crap that has been thrown at them since Natalie Maines spoke out against Lying Vote-stealing Fraud Fake-President Bush. Hell, they’ve had multiple DEATH THREATS from these sick jerks, as the song makes clear. I read in an interview that at least one of these threats involved actual stalking.

It’s high time for those of us who oppose Fraud Bush (over 70% and counting) to stand up to these bigots and bullies. It’s way past time that real Americans stand up to these fascist pigs who have stolen their way into the White House. They are NOT the majority. WE are.

The album has been the number one seller on Amazon for the last three days. I urge everyone to buy it. Not only is it a beautiful album but it’ll help send a message that these thugs have NOT won, that we are willing to fight back.

Posted by: Pat C on May 27, 2006 03:46 AM

Apologies, here is a good link.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/05/23.html#a8396

Posted by: Pat C on May 27, 2006 03:48 AM

wv: look to houses the nodes occupy & the natal aspects to them, then where the mars/saturn @ 8 Leo will be. This will give you an idea of where to start being aware of the effects of that transit. It is through observing on the personal level, that we can extrapolate what will be happening at more "exaulted" levels.

Something I keep reminding myself of, is all of us, no matter what our standing in society, put our pants on one leg at a time . . .

Posted by: Neith on May 27, 2006 04:02 AM

Dialogue goes here n' there, clymela... pls don't let the fusses of the posters get you down... they're natural when folks care & they're being at least half-way real. It's a very good thing. ;O)

Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 27, 2006 04:32 AM

Bhakti always acts as if she's the sheriff in town....and she is harsh...and not a littel bit mean, so I feel that it is right and just to be just as mean back. It is also uncalled for to criticise how someone writes...and very overbearing. And it undoubtedly puts a kabosh on those who are getting up enough nerve to post (I was treated quite harshly by bhakti, so I am now 'revenging'.) But that just ads some spice to this mix....I say, post whatever, especially if the personal triggers something in the political -isn't this just two sides of the same coin?...but don't post whole articles, as Sally says......I know I don't read them. Besides...I'd rather have a couple of comments about the meat of the article than a humongus long article OR philosophical rambling....but that would certainly cut off people, and perhaps this is just something to ad to the 'this too shall pass' list.

Posted by: on May 27, 2006 06:21 AM

Joe, our new Joe that is...there was a Joe here back a couple of years, who would periodically come here and berate, and vomit his rightwing crap on us. It isn't fair to not explain that to your...but of course, Bhadti didn't explain, leaving you perhaps feeling unwelcome.

You are NOTHING like this other one, who was most likely responsible for the hacking which took place.....

Posted by: on May 27, 2006 06:24 AM

I've been looking forward to the release of the movie. Have heard a lot about this one and u have also made the mention here.
Another great film!!!

Posted by: Paul on May 27, 2006 08:08 AM

to anon at 6:21am
ALL on this site bring their own gifts in their own unique way and it seems that most participants enjoy the balance of skills, ideas and information found here.
Sometimes by taking offense we create more offense. Payback mentality is soooo old, either/or, world. Surely we can move on at this point. One has a choice whether to be offended to the extreme when someone else is too direct & to the point - or not.

Posted by: kiwijeanie on May 27, 2006 08:20 AM

I think this lunation on the Galactic center is bringing out truth. People often lament change, but the blogs are young, growing fast, and changing rapidly. I already see a huge difference in a year. Sometimes the rapidfire spitting out of information, links, etc. spreads a lot of false news. I think Blogleft is reeling from the shock of what Truthout just did with Rove. Interesting the name...Truthout. All this time the Progressives have been complaining bitterly about the national media but the fact is, the same things can happen within. We don't want to go the same route. The overstimulation is problematic and sometimes people would like to go into more depth with subjects and relate them to the larger picture and themselves, but the crowd moves so quickly. Big mistakes are made.
As blogs become more serious, responsibility will result. Hopefully useless self gratifying personal brutalities will find less space as we realize the power we have and the urgency for political transformation. It is still evolving and I think its wise to let the changes unfold naturally.
The importance is genuine. The new Net Neutrality Law is a sign, and we have a real tool in our hands. We'll do our best. It's our baby. And it's big.

Posted by: jm on May 27, 2006 09:27 AM

"As the Economist magazine put it earlier this month, the Bush-Blair partnership has become the “axis of feeble".

Posted by: jm on May 27, 2006 10:37 AM


Hundreds die in Indonesian quake

Footage from Java
More than 2,200 people have been killed and thousands more injured by a strong earthquake that struck the Indonesian island of Java, officials have said.
The quake, measuring 6.2, flattened buildings in a densely-populated area near the city of Yogyakarta on the southern coast of Java.

Witnesses said people fled as their homes collapsed around them, after the quake struck early in the morning.

Electricity and communications across the city were also down, police said.


People were running out in panic in their bedclothes
Brook Weisman-Ross, Yogyakarta

At least 2,900 people have been injured, and many more are still thought to be trapped under rubble and collapsed buildings.

Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono has ordered the military to help evacuate victims, and plans to visit the area later on Saturday.

Yogyakarta's airport was closed. Local media said the runway had cracked and part of a roof had caved in.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/5022558.stm

Posted by: wv on May 27, 2006 11:47 AM



No golden glow as leaders take stock

By Paul Reynolds
World Affairs Correspondent, BBC News website

Tony Blair's visit to Washington was a sunset moment. He and George Bush are coming to an end of their time together.
This does not necessarily mean an end to their crises together, because one potentially huge problem, Iran, is yet to be dealt with.

Not that they were able to sit back and relax in a golden glow over the Potomac River. There were too many shadows.

Both found themselves having to make apologies over Iraq (tactical not strategic), especially Mr Bush as it turned out.

Tony Blair was more interested in determinedly trying to lay out his international legacy, a philosophy of interventionism in which Iraq found its place.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5022126.stm

Posted by: wv on May 27, 2006 11:56 AM


God only knows what politicians will do if this
comes about...

Scientists work up a disappearing act
ANNE MCILROY

SCIENCE REPORTER

The invisibility cloak that allowed Harry Potter to wander unseen through the halls of Hogwarts is no longer confined to the realm of fiction.

Researchers in Britain and the United States have published a theoretical blueprint for constructing an invisibility cloak using revolutionary new materials engineered to bend light and other electromagnetic waves in ways not seen in nature.

Sir John Pendry, a theoretical physicist at Imperial College London, says he may be able to make himself disappear in five years.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060526.gtcloak26/BNStory/Technology/home

Posted by: wv on May 27, 2006 12:20 PM

Truth hurts sometimes. It ain't ALL GOOD so I'd much rather air some truth to stop all the dirty laundry you are spilling about your lives that is really personal and belongs in another chat room.
All your wants and needs and off topic thoughts are not significant to the world. And yes, the whole world now knows all about the details of your lives which we have to muck through to get to some real news or astrology. Aren't there therapists to air your personal lives to? Airing your lives onto the net is dangerous and foolish. Even children know that. An adult who goes to work or has money of their own can develop their own blog. What cajones to use Sally as a therapy board then complain when someone tells you to knock it off. Long life stories and poor poor mes are offensive too 1) coming from people your age (crones)= emabarrassing (hey I'm your age and now want to let the world know that all women do not act this sorry and dependant, lots of us have work we love and are thriving) and 2) when it is not neccessary and it's not on your dime.
Think what you wish about me but at least direct is better than passive aggressive. I am direct. And this issue is not about me. Do not distract from the fact you all aired your life stories and off topic discussions on Sally's dime. Be respectful of Sally or else buy your own blog.
Also, good people dropped off from AW because of the uber spilling recently. And Sally was hacked again (not sure if it was JOe or other uber bloggers who never leave, my guess). Isn't there one ounce of remorse, esp from the hugest foamers? No, just say bad things about another poster who is direct. The tepid passive-aggressiveness is showing. And if actions like that take place on this board , I am certain that this is why we are stuck with the lemon in the WH.

Posted by: bhakti on May 27, 2006 12:39 PM

If you ( generic you ) thought you were in the
loop, and safe; poised to profit for your free trade philosophies........................

WRONG! They are eating their own!

May 26 (Bloomberg) -- Now that Kenneth Lay and Jeffrey Skilling have been convicted of the fraud that destroyed Enron Corp., the government is poised to seize $62 million of their assets.
read more...............

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000087&sid=aTXPabVNxQBw&refer=top_world_news

PQ

Posted by: on May 27, 2006 01:52 PM

Enron Conservatism Lives On
http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2006/05/26/enron_conservatism_lives_on.php
This article is right-on. Even the pathetic trash company here fired the workers who wanted a wage increase and better hours. They even paid through the nose for outside workers to be put up in a hotel to help stop the strike. It's become a business practice to "do an Enron" to keep the peons in line.

Posted by: Jill G on May 27, 2006 01:56 PM

Anon being mean back to Bhakti or seeking revengence isn't hurting her and this blog is not the place for that. What she says is blunt and truthful.

Is your goal to have Sally shutdown AW? Ya know she could just get really fed up with the bs. Sally spoke very plainly at May 26, 2006 05:13 AM

Joe you mentioned you were 32 ish I believe, no you are not the youngest person on this board there are many folks 20 somthings that I am aware of.

Also, I highly recommend to any of our new readers to go back through the Archives and read what Sally, Nancy and others have written.

Back later with a new moon article. We have bigger fish to filet.

Posted by: Morgana on May 27, 2006 02:53 PM

Wv,
We share our nodes only reversed..mine @ S 8o Taurus, & N 8o Scorpio; 12 & 6 houses. I always appreciate your posts even when I don't say so.

I have thought that since I have a 12th house N sun ( taurus ), progressed sun CONJUNCT Bush's & the USA sun, that it was helpful to the blog to post personal reactions I have to the planetary stress political leaders may be feeling.
In any case I have made a conscious
(and in my view courageous)decision to share my experiences, to try to alert others of where we are headed.
( I'm the canary in the mine!) Rather than be "nice" & neutral" as seems to be the trend of the day! The vehicle I'm driving has been stripped of all accessories and is geared for speed & efficiency!
My experiences have been "directed" enough to show me, what I/WE re up against. I get enough postitive responses to make it viable!
If it has been heavy handed this past week.................well it was a HEAVY WEEK!
PQ

Posted by: on May 27, 2006 03:30 PM

At least there's something to look forward to...

http://www.local6.com/news/9283707/detail.html

Posted by: wv on May 27, 2006 03:56 PM

I'm a weary traveler back from 5 weeks in Europe and checking in to AW for astrology and political and mundane news.

I come here for political astrology. Period.

Other sites which were supposed to be Mundane and Political Astrology sites have been decimated and ruined by personal - there's no other way to say it - blatherings -

I'm with Bhakti on this one, although I have not read the previous personal threads - I have no desire to....there are other sites, which Sally mentioned, that are happily willing to suffer personal astrology, dreams,tarot cards, wishbones, psychic predictions, gender-bending crap and attacks, and all other topics unrelated to POLITICAL MUNDANE ASTROLOGY.

I stopped going there years ago.
I stopped writing for this site, by the way which the authors contribute gratis gladly, when personal astrology and hatreds became a dominant discussion in the comments instead of on topic
commentary to the political article of the day.

It would be too bad to see a wonderful fount of political, mundane, and astrological information such as this be further diminished and go down the drain.

Perhaps Sally could re-work the subtitle under
"Astroworld", which has been blurred by the blue
tint.

It says " Political Astrological Insight and Predictions ".

______

I attended a Democratic Committee meeting 2 days ago. They're pushing Mark Warner for President.
It might be nice for someone to do this "nobody's" chart.

On the discussion of Al Gore, Saturn transiting the first quarter of his chart, means as it comes to his second house,he'd have a hard time raising money - but I certainly would like to see him as President. My second choice would be Russ Feingold - a fire eating liberal democrat, and I have a lot of faith in John Edwards too.

Those are some political astrology charts which should be looked at and discussed on these valuable threads. Just my humble opinion.

Posted by: Pallas1800 on May 27, 2006 04:01 PM

Hi Pallas good to see you! Feingold and Warner, I don't have their astro info. If you've got it will you drop me an email?

Thank you.

Posted by: Morgana on May 27, 2006 04:19 PM


Mark Warner
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Order: 69th Governor of Virginia
Term of Office: January 2002 - January 2006
Predecessor: Jim Gilmore
Successor: Tim Kaine
Date of Birth: December 15, 1954
Place of Birth: Indianapolis, Indiana
Spouse: Lisa Collis
Profession: Businessman
Political Party: Democratic
Lieutenant Governor: Tim Kaine (2002-2006)

Mark Robert Warner (born December 15, 1954) is an American politician from the U.S. state of Virginia and a member of the Democratic Party. He is currently the most recent former Governor of Virginia; in the final months of his gubernatorial term, Warner's poll ratings indicated that he is the most popular Virginia governor in a generation, with record approval ratings of 75% [1]. Warner is now the Honorary Chairman of the Forward Together PAC.

Warner is considered one of the top contenders for the Democratic nomination for President of the United States in 2008 because of his wide appeal to independents and moderate Republicans, and his high popularity in a relatively Republican state. He is considered by many to be a New Democrat, while some believe he is a Blue Dog Democrat. Some have compared Warner to Bill Clinton, another moderate Southern Democratic governor who had strong appeal to moderates and independents. In November 2005, Time magazine named Warner one of the "five best governors" in the United States.

Posted by: wv on May 27, 2006 04:48 PM

Wishing Morgana a Happy Birthday today....

Posted by: on May 27, 2006 04:52 PM

Or is this too off topic?

Posted by: judiGem on May 27, 2006 04:55 PM

"Warner is considered one of the top contenders for the Democratic nomination for President of the United States in 2008 because of his wide appeal to independents and moderate Republicans, and his high popularity in a relatively Republican state. "

Republican is mentioned how many times?
Haven't we had enough of republican lite.
why not just run Joe Lieberman.

We need a third party - and fast.

Posted by: Pallas1800 on May 27, 2006 04:58 PM

Hi Morgana,

looking forward to your new moon article. But I dont see why everyone is talking about the New Moon conjucnt Pluto. Pluto is at 25 Sag, the New Moon is at 5 Gemini.

Am I not seeing something?

Posted by: Pallas1800 on May 27, 2006 05:02 PM

Pallas1800

Welcome back! I for one missed you during the recent extended soap opera/encounter session on this blog.

Hope you'll agree to share any political/social/cross cultural insights re your trip to Europe. I agree totally about the Repub lite situation. For better or worse, most Americans "fly by radar" when choosing candidates, i.e. through intuitive, instinctual, 'gut' reactions to how the person presents him/herself, and ESPECIALLY if they perceive that person as "authentic", meaning standing up for some idea or concept they really believe, and showing some passion/excitement while being obviously comfortable with their own personas.

For example, I'm certain Kerry would have made at least a "very good" president, but his scripted, stilted, studied, often soporific, rigorously nuanced, equivocating answers to questions made average people think he's either intellectually arrogant (talking down to them) or just plain indecisive and fuzzy.

I think one of the main reasons many progressives are so into Gore now (me too!) is that he is showing that its not hard to be authentic, smart, creative, engaging, passionate, principled with strong core beliefs, and even genuinely funny all at once if you know who you are and what you want to achieve.

Horrible to say, but W has been a success at politics in large part because many people (in the past of course) have seen him as a man of strong convictions and unshakable core beliefs who is unafraid to express what he really thinks.

The worst thing a`dem can (continue to) do now, is to sound cautious, scripted, and afraid of criticism, as if he must wait for focus group poll results before uttering the next few sentences.

Posted by: Grizzly on May 27, 2006 06:01 PM

Just like the Pretzeldent:
Being a Legend in Your Own Mind = Pathetic. A sorry, dependant child in a grownup body. Alas.

Posted by: bhakti on May 27, 2006 06:11 PM

Hi Grizzly,

glad to see you oldsters, Morgana included :) - good thing she can't swat me - happy birthday Morgana, if it is...and how is your solar return
on a New Moon?

Grizzly, I'll post impressions elsewhere unless I can tie it in with astrology. I visited Paris,
Lisbon, Vigo, Spain, Brugge (something interesting occurred there which might be of political (astrological ?) interest, and London..

Something we often talk about here is the state of the economy and the US dollar - well, when I left it took US $1.23 to buy 1 Euro - by the time I finished the trip it took $1.30 to buy 1 Euro - not good for traveling Americans...In England it was $1.75 to $1.84 to buy 1 Pound. When I left it took US $2.03 to buy 1 Pound.

What does it mean. It means it takes $6 dollars American to buy a coca cola in London and $12 American to buy a pack of Marlboro in London. BRAK.

About the only person I know of who would have the
birthdata for the American treasury would be Sally. Another chart to take a good long look at.

Junior, in printing the new money removed the pyramid with the all seeing eye from the new bills. Never should have done that!

With Saturn transiting Leo (gold) gold has also gone down. Difficult to understand if the dollar is going down, why gold would be going down also.

_____

Did you all see the undersea Volcano in the Marianas going off a few days ago? And now in the Phillipines where the on land volcano has been smoking and coughing for weeks, there's a major earthquake with a lot of accompanying deaths.

Pluto.

Strong connections between volcanoes, earthquakes and the movement of the earth's inner magma methinks.

_____

Richard Nolle hits it on the head again:

" (Gold has been a complicated proposition, what with favorable lunar declination factors and an unfavorable Saturn transit.) Remember, as mentioned when discussing the favorable associations of the Venus intersolar cycle for last year's forecast, that "there are other indicators of a less favorable nature, so no one should expect unmitigated economic and financial improvement on a broad scale. Horrid oil price shocks will play havoc with the world economy off and on." This is even more the case in 2006, so make hay while Venus remains between us and the Sun. By late March, what favorable economic tides there have been, are beginning to ebb - just as the benefic Venus cycle itself fades away. Blue chips in general and financials in particular (also mines) look strong in January and February. By the time high tech equities take off in early March, it's time to cash out and get to the sidelines for a while. (Just remember what cash really is - and what's really cash.) In June, when Venus in Taurus turns the Saturn-Jupiter-Neptune T-square into a Grand Cross, I expect a crisis of confidence to disrupt the currency, equity and financial markets in no small way. "


Posted by: Pallas1800 on May 27, 2006 06:32 PM

JudiG, Grizzly, Pallas all, yes 54 today 5/27/52, I'm having a wonderful day thank you. Art and Wine Festival in town we're taking the Harley.

Pallas yup saw the volcano underwater film and noted the 6.2 quake in Indonesia and the volcano Merapi nearby, that area has such an explosive history. I haven't run a chart on it yet. It's interesting to see these earthquakes working their way around the Pacific Plate makes one wonder where next it'll pop. The Alaskan Plate edge has been pretty active as well. Here's the link to the earthquake data.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/usneb6.php

Also might want to check starcats.com Claudia may have the Treasury chart around as well.


Posted by: Morgana on May 27, 2006 06:54 PM

thanks Morgana for the info above.

more Nolle :

http://www.astropro.com/forecast/predict/2006-all.html

____

hee hee.

On the news, Gonzales and his deputy threatening to quit if they have to return the congressman's records to his office. Please please quit. Wow - busy astrological day. Gonzales chart must be somewhere. What's being triggered? previous solar eclipse? something big going on. Geez, if we got rid of Gonzales it would put a slowdown in
completing the change of this country and govt to fascisti.

With the congress voting, including Senate democrats, to allow amnesty for 20 million illegals who work for less than minimum wage , and Snow having accomplished his globablization G-8 job of outsourcing most American jobs...the stripping of earning power of the average American and middle class has been accomplished.

Posted by: Pallas1800 on May 27, 2006 07:06 PM

I've noticed that some people here write Saturn with a t, e.g., tSaturn. Is there a reason for this, or is it merely an idiosyncracy? I've seen it more than once which leads me to conclude it isn't due to typos. Thank you.

PS: Morgana, I appreciate your clarification about the age factor.

Posted by: Joe on May 27, 2006 07:17 PM

Joe T Saturn t Saturn = transiting Saturn vs N n Saturn natal

Posted by: Morgana on May 27, 2006 07:19 PM

JOe,

T Saturn, or t saturn indicates that we are shortcutting the words "Transiting Saturn".

There's natal Saturn which isn't going to move in the chart which might be written N Saturn or n saturn and there's Saturn the planet up in the sky right now and still moving which we call Transiting Saturn....any transiting planet touching or passing the natal position of any planet in a chart brings a reaction of the nature of the planets involved.

hope that helps

Posted by: Pallas1800 on May 27, 2006 07:23 PM

glad to see the "old timers" back and piling on to return this blog to its former interesting, astro political self. Maybe the answer is to make "ignore" buttons available . . . !

Posted by: on May 27, 2006 10:10 PM

The most amazing thing happened.

The other day, on a small intimate website, John Kerry posted an article about the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh for a judgeship on the DC circuit. He talked about the importance of breaking the Republican stranglehold.

Today this comment appeared from Kerry..."Thanks for all the responses, positive and negative. I read them all — maybe not all at once, but I do like to go back and see the feedback."

This has never happened in our history. A realtime discussion with a man who came close to being the President of the country. Our ideas went directly into his head. Such an odd sensation. So often we scramble around talking to ourselves trying to figure out what is going on with leaders in some faraway kingdom. They lose their humanness, and we feel lost and disconnected.
Something is up.

Posted by: jm on May 27, 2006 10:56 PM

Let me please add that this connection occurred in the intimacy of our homes.

Posted by: jm on May 27, 2006 11:11 PM

I very much want to share this comment with you that came up on that thread.

"It takes some give and take on all sides - that’s what democracy is all about."

Posted by: jm on May 27, 2006 11:30 PM

Pallas -- The Full Moon in Sag will apply to a conjunction to Pluto as the culmination of this New Moon -- on the 11th. What to watch out for tho -- is Mercury applying to an opposition to Pluto on May 31st -- since Mercury is the dispositer of the NEW MOON in Gemini.

Posted by: Philomena on May 27, 2006 11:33 PM

I felt the same way, jm, when I met Howard Dean last year and gave him a print-out of some suggestions AWers had made to help this country, as well as when I met Mrs. Kerry during the campaign and spoke to her (briefly) about her astrology chart (I believe I told her that her moon in Aquarius was very close to the degree of the U.S. moon, and I thought that meant the country would love her due to the similarity).

By the way, today is the day Sally becomes a mother-in-law again.

Posted by: on May 28, 2006 12:01 AM


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6091356/site/newsweek/

‘Staying the Course’ Isn’t an Option
Iraq is probably already lost, says former military-policy planner Mike Turner. But there are still some smart strategies for Kerry to adopt

Posted by: Pat C on May 28, 2006 01:38 AM


http://www.observer.com/20060529/20060529_Joe_Conason_opinions_conason.asp

Nobody’s Laughing
At Al Gore’s Truths

By Joe Conason


Long before the release of An Inconvenient Truth, the new film about climate change starring Al Gore, the scientific consensus had ratified the warnings he has delivered over the past two decades. Leading business executives in the insurance, investment and even the energy industries have conceded that he was right. Conservative politicians who scoffed at him have since traveled in his footsteps to the shrinking polar ice caps—and returned to Washington as fervent environmentalists.

The truth that the former Vice President has been trying to tell us for most of his public career is no longer subject to serious dispute. The real questions are no longer whether climate change is occurring or whether that change is caused by human activity, but how much damage the world’s rising temperature will do to civilization, and how much time we have to change course before we suffer a catastrophe.

Posted by: wv on May 28, 2006 02:46 AM


The Right Is Wrong
To Embrace Hillary

By Julia Gorin


We recently learned that Rupert Murdoch would be hosting a fund-raiser for Hillary Clinton’s Senatorial re-election campaign. Mr. Murdoch said he considered Mrs. Clinton to be an effective Senator from the state that is home to Fox News and the New York Post. Mr. Murdoch added that his activity on Mrs. Clinton’s behalf had “nothing to do with anything other than her Senate re-election.”

Oh, that the Clinton world were so simple. We should know by now that it never is, never was and never will be.

Helping Hillary Clinton now means helping her reach the next phase of her career. Being an effective legislator for New York, winning the respect of her Senate colleagues, proving herself—this was precisely the plan from the beginning.

You might ask, “What’s so diabolical about being an effective legislator, or winning the respect of one’s colleagues, or proving oneself?”

Well, if you’ve forgotten who and what Hillary Clinton is—and making us forget was also part of the plan—then the answer is: nothing. But for those of us who have stayed vigilant, who in 2000 foresaw her designs on the White House, we haven’t lost sight of the fact that the past five years in the Senate have been a mere stepping stone, a tool toward attaining the Presidency. Once she is in residence in the White House, she will continue to undermine American supremacy and independence, a process that her husband jump-started, partly under her influence.

http://www.observer.com/20060529/20060529_Julia_Gorin_opinions_wiseguys.asp

Posted by: wv on May 28, 2006 02:58 AM


Back to the Whitehouse

Next month Rupert Murdoch will host a celebrity fundraising event for Hillary Clinton as she busily sheds her liberal baggage and establishes a stranglehold on the right of Democratic politics. With huge funds in place, the New York senator looks a certainty to run in 2008. But is America ready to forget 'the Bill years' and return her to the White House - this time as President?

Paul Harris
Sunday May 28, 2006

Observer

It was a breakfast speech, but still the fans needed to arrive early to grab a good seat. When Hillary Clinton speaks, people don't see a Senator from New York. Or an ex-First Lady. They come to hear the first woman President of the United States. She always attracts a crowd, and last week at the National Press Club in Washington was no different. The event sold out days earlier. Some in the audience clutched books and pens, hoping for an autograph, as if Clinton was a movie star, not a politician.
Wearing a bright yellow trousersuit, Clinton did not disappoint. She devoted her nearly hour-long address to energy policy, speaking in detail and with passion on a subject obsessing most Americans in the face of the war in Iraq and high petrol prices. She called for everyone to make changes. 'The ball is in our court. It is up to us to act, and act soon,' she said. It was classic Clinton politics. She catapulted herself to the centre of a national issue and at the same time popped the balloon of Democratic rival Al Gore. Gore, propelled by his hit environmental film An Inconvenient Truth, is now being mentioned as a candidate in 2008. Clinton's speech was the growl of someone looting an encroaching rival's main ideas. 'She made it clear who's in power and who's in Cannes,' wrote New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd afterwards.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/print/0,,329490930-102280,00.html

Posted by: wv on May 28, 2006 03:10 AM


The Sunday Times May 28, 2006


Gore goes from bad joke to great white hope

Andrew Sullivan



The speed of the new consensus is perhaps the most remarkable thing about it. All it took was a new movie on global warming, fresh doubts about Hillary, and a growing desire to expunge George W Bush from the national memory banks . . . and suddenly Al Gore is anointed by the chattering classes as the next Democratic nominee.
Al Gore? Yep. The man who, after eight years of peace and prosperity as vice-president, couldn’t manage to persuade Americans to continue the Clinton legacy with a president who could keep his trousers on. The man who sighed and huffed his way into debate oblivion in 2000. The man who grew a beard and slunk off to Tennessee in disgrace after the cliffhanger. Al Gore, national joke . . . now national saviour?



It is indeed a little hard to believe. But bear with me. Stranger things have happened in American politics.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2092-2199893,00.html

Posted by: wv on May 28, 2006 03:16 AM

I feel an unusual sorrow in the air on this Memorial Day with the progressed Mars station and transit Mars deep deep into Cancer. The Massacre in Haditha is top news and with the lunation has come some truth about and war and human cruelty. With the nodes leaving Aries/Libra there should be more understanding. I hope the message is sinking in and something will be gained from this knowledge. It seems to be penetrating even though people are grilling hot dogs and throwing frisbes. We do have rituals to maintain.

Posted by: jm on May 28, 2006 06:01 AM

Yes jm,
At the library today one of our older local men
( mensa member,) was lamenting the young man who died on Mt Everest. The paper said 43 people passed him going up or down without assisting or calling for help; so he died!
"We" did our obligatory grass cutting with the weed wacker since the lawsn mower, is still out for repairs...................
thoght this was interesting...........

Denny, the Bushevik Mob is Putting a Horse's Head in Your Bed. Wake Up, They're Sending You a Message. You Violated the Bush Code of Omerta!

http://www.buzzflash.com/editorial/06/05/edi06039.html

PQ

Posted by: on May 28, 2006 06:27 AM

Very very interesting:

"Top Veterans Official Joins Fight For Govt. Headstones With Wiccan Symbol..."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060527/ap_on_re_us/wiccan_soldier

Posted by: jm on May 28, 2006 06:29 AM

Hillary is pandering to the right. With a party sponsored by Murdoch, republicans can accept her.
But liberals can't. Would I be surprised if Hillary changed parties back to Republican? No.
___

As Pluto enters a sign it gives power to the things that sign represents. But let's not forget that as Pluto nears the end of the sign it begins to destroy - Shiva like - all that it has built up.

If you haven't seen the movie The Da Vinci Code, do. Another nail in the coffin of the Catholic and Christian church, fiction or not, but with enough truth to cause questions. And the church's reaction to it, or rather over-reaction
gives credence. The church doth protest too much.

Posted by: Pallas1800 on May 28, 2006 06:58 AM

thanks Philomena.

I'll check the charts out.

Pluto opp Mercury - in the US Sag chart.... gee, maybe Gonzales will resign, or since he has made the threat, maybe republicans and democrats in Congress will push him to do so under that aspect.

That would be a Happy Independence Day. :D

Posted by: Pallas1800 on May 28, 2006 07:17 AM

That Murdoch would so overtly support hillary as a 'democrat' is another indication that Bush is soon to be toast.
He can see which way the wind is blowing. Profit is his bottom line.

Posted by: kiwijeanie on May 28, 2006 07:52 AM

The Right Wing can thumb their noses at Gore and the truth he speaks Re: Global Warming all they want. But the truth is, the clock is ticking for them and all of humanity to WAKE UP, acknowledge the fact that Global Warming does exist and poses a grave threat to our future on this planet, and DO something about it -- fast.

I still hold to my prediction that we've got maybe 30 years left to collectively act on what we know, or should know, on the basis of the "hands" on that clock being none other than Uranus and Pluto:

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Then come the 2040s, a big time of testing. By now, humanity will have to be united enough and sufficiently in unison to handle things on a planetary scale. The stakes are at their highest ever. This is breakthrough or breakdown: climate, environmental issues and food-production will probably be critical, but our group-psychological capacity to handle breakthrough and its implications will be equally so. The Uranus-Neptune square (transition-point of the cycle begun at the conjunction in 1993) in 2039-41 is closely followed by a Uranus-Pluto opposition (climax of the cycle beginning in 1965) in 2046-48. Tests of power at the beginning, and a turning-over of reality towards the end. Henceforth things will undoubtedly be different. This is it: we will know by this time if we have mastered the world crisis or not.

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"In 2046-8, Uranus (Virgo) opposes Pluto (Pisces), bringing to a climax the issues seeded in the 1960s: this is a time for facing up to the full implications of the 1960s burst of awareness, and a time of crisis. Shifting realities could bring either a new 'dispensation' or a tremendous historic downfall. If the innovations and understandings of the 1960s and subsequent decades do not work by now, much, if not all, will be lost. This could be a disastrous or a triumphant time. Maximum ingenuity will be called for, and much shifting of positions and perspectives will take place. A time of innovation and awakening – or a time of resignation and disaster. It could be something of both."

"The 2040s will see a test of faith, and a squaring with reality. Whether we like it or not, crucial changes will take place. Much that we now know will be gone, and new realities will have taken their place. Some things will have got worse, and some things better – and our perception of 'better' and 'worse' will also have changed. Whether this involves breakdown or whether we can build structures and a consensus to carry us through such intense change is the big question here. Much depends on what has been sorted out from the 1990s onward. If we have not, by the 2040s, acted committedly on what we know we must do, it will be too late. We will possibly be unable to keep the majority of humanity alive and sustained – unless we have learned from previous decades and acted on it. Some sort of revolution is likely, be it social, technological or psycho-spiritual, or all of them."

Thus, the Uranus-Pluto hemicycle, from 1965-2048, is the most valid longer-term timeframe in which to see our current times. It is a major chapter of history. If our international, corporate and social institutions develop informed perspectives to plan realistically for such a period, we might be in a position to positively create future history – and redeem past history – rather than survive by crisis-management. In the 1960s we received news of how things were likely to pan out, and by the late 2040s, we will see the results. If we have not by then dealt with fundamental human psycho-social needs, we will experience fundamental world schism. If we have not allowed new grass-roots world forces to act, the older authoritarian world forces will not solve things."

http://www.palden.co.uk/palden/pal-4tin.html

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Now, I'm not saying that it's necessarily "game over" for humanity on Earth, when the "clock strikes six". Even Jenkins doesn't go that far. But if we wait until 5:59 to get serious about averting a crisis, we may be in real trouble.

Posted by: NEOBuckeye on May 28, 2006 09:12 AM


From NY Times

May 28, 2006
Op-Ed Columnist

The Cannes Landslide for Al Gore
By FRANK RICH

LET it never be said that the Democrats don't believe in anything. They still believe in Hollywood and they still believe in miracles. Witness the magical mystery comeback tour of Al Gore.

Like Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11" before it, Mr. Gore's new documentary about global warming, "An Inconvenient Truth," has wowed the liberal caucus at Cannes (who needs landlocked Iowa?) and fueled fantasies of political victory back home. "Al Gore Takes Cannes by Storm — Will the Oval Office Be Next?" Arianna Huffington asks on her blog, reporting that the former vice president was hotter on the Croisette than Tom Hanks, Bruce Willis and Penelope Cruz. In a "fantasy" presidential poll on the liberal Web site Daily Kos, Mr. Gore racks up a landslide 68 percent, with the closest also-ran, Russ Feingold, at 15. Liberal Washington pundits wonder whether the wonkishness that seemed off-putting in 2000 may actually be a virtue. In choosing a president, Margaret Carlson writes on Bloomberg.com, maybe "we should give a rest to that old saw about likeability."

Still, the unexpected rebirth of Al Gore says more about the desperation of the Democrats than it does about him. He is most of all the beneficiary of a perfect storm of events, the right man in the right place at the right time. It was just after Mr. Gore appeared on "Saturday Night Live" to kick off his movie's publicity campaign that long-rumbling discontent with the party's presumptive (if unannounced) presidential front-runner, Hillary Clinton, boiled over. Last week both New York magazine and The New Yorker ran lead articles quoting party insiders who described a Clinton candidacy in 2008 as a pox tantamount to avian flu. The Times jumped in with a front-page remembrance of headlines past: a dissection of the Clinton marriage.

If Senator Clinton is the Antichrist, might not it be time for a resurrected messiah to inherit (and save) the earth? Enter Mr. Gore, celebrated by New York on its cover as "The Un-Hillary."

There's a certain logic to this. Mrs. Clinton does look like a weak candidate — not so much because of her marriage, her gender or her liberalism, but because of her eagerness to fudge her stands on anything and everything to appeal to any and all potential voters. Where once she inspired passions pro and con, now she often induces apathy. Her most excited constituency seems to be the right-wing pundits who still hope to make a killing with books excoriating her. At least eight fresh titles are listed at Amazon.com, including my own personal favorite, "Liberal Fascism: The Totalitarian Temptation From Mussolini to Hillary Clinton." (Why settle for Il Duce when you can go for Hitler?)

Since no crowd-pleasing Democratic challenger has emerged at this early date to disrupt Mrs. Clinton's presumed coronation, the newly crowned movie star who won the popular vote in 2000 is the quick fix. Better the defeated devil the Democrats know than the losers they don't. Besides, there are at least two strong arguments in favor of Mr. Gore. He was way ahead of the Washington curve, not just on greenhouse gases but on another issue far more pressing than Mrs. Clinton's spirited crusade to stamp out flag burning: Iraq.

An anti-Hussein hawk who was among the rare Senate Democrats to vote for the first gulf war, Mr. Gore forecast the disasters lying in wait for the second when he spoke out at the Commonwealth Club in San Francisco on Sept. 23, 2002. He saw that the administration was jumping "from one unfinished task to another" and risked letting Afghanistan destabilize and Osama bin Laden flee. He saw that the White House was recklessly putting politics over policy by hurrying a Congressional war resolution before the midterm elections (and before securing international support). Most important, he noticed then that the administration had "not said much of anything" about "what would follow regime change." He imagined how "chaos in the aftermath of a military victory in Iraq could easily pose a far greater danger to the United States than we presently face from Saddam."

At the time, the White House professed to ignore Mr. Gore's speech, but on cue in the next five days Condoleezza Rice, Ari Fleischer, Donald Rumsfeld and the president all stepped up the hype of what Mr. Rumsfeld falsely called "bulletproof" evidence of links between Saddam and Al Qaeda. Democratic leaders in Congress, meanwhile, blew off Mr. Gore for fear that talk of Iraq might distract the electorate from all those compelling domestic issues that would guarantee victory in the midterms. (That brilliant strategy cost Democrats the Senate.) On CNN, a representative from The New Republic, a frequent Gore cheerleader, reported that "the vast majority of the staff" condemned his speech as "the bitter rantings of a guy who is being politically motivated and disingenuous in his arguments."

But in truth, as with global warming, Mr. Gore's stands on Iraq (both in 1991 and 2002) were manifestations of leadership — the single attribute most missing from the current Democrats with presidential ambitions. Of the potential candidates for 2008, only Senator Feingold raised similar questions about the war so articulately so early. The Gore stand on the environment, though still rejected by the president and his oil-industry base, has become a bipartisan cause: 86 evangelical Christian leaders broke with the administration's do-nothing policy in February.

If this were the whole picture, Mr. Gore would seem the perfect antidote to the Democrats' ills. But it's not. The less flattering aspect of Mr. Gore has not gone away: the cautious and contrived presidential candidate who, like Mrs. Clinton now, was so in thrall to consultants that he ran away from his own administration's record and muted his views, even about pet subjects like science. (He waffled on the teaching of creationism in August 1999, after the Kansas Board of Education struck down the teaching of evolution.) That Gore is actually accentuated, not obscured, by "An Inconvenient Truth." The more hard-hitting his onscreen slide show about global warming, the more he reminds you of how much less he focused on the issue in 2000. Gore the uninhibited private citizen is not the same as Gore the timid candidate.

Though many of the rave reviews don't mention it, there are also considerable chunks of "An Inconvenient Truth" that are more about hawking Mr. Gore's image than his cause. They also bring back unflattering memories of him as a politician. The movie contains no other voices that might upstage him, not even those of scientists supporting his argument. It is instead larded with sycophantic audiences, as meticulously multicultural as any Benetton ad, who dote on every word and laugh at every joke, like the studio audience at "Live With Regis and Kelly."

We are also treated to a heavy-handed, grainy glimpse of Katherine Harris, Michael Moore-style, and are reminded that Mr. Gore is not a rigid blue-state N.R.A. foe (he shows us where he shot his rifle as a farm kid in Tennessee). There's even an ingenious bit of fearmongering to go head to head with the Republicans' exploitation of 9/11: in a worst-case climactic scenario, we're told, the World Trade Center memorial "would be under water." Given so blatant a political context, the film's big emotional digressions — Mr. Gore's tragic near-loss of his young son and the death of his revered older sister from lung cancer — are as discomforting as they were in his 1992 and 1996 convention speeches.

If "An Inconvenient Truth" isn't actually a test drive for a presidential run, it's the biggest tease since Colin Powell encouraged speculation about his political aspirations during his 1995 book tour. Mr. Gore's nondenial denials about his ambitions (he has "no plans" to run) are Clintonesque. Told by John Heilemann of New York magazine that his movie sometimes feels like a campaign film, Mr. Gore gives a disingenuous answer that triggers an instant flashback to his equivocation about weightier matters during the 2000 debates: "Audiences don't see the movie as political. Paramount did a number of focus-group screenings, and that was very clear." You want to scream: stop this man before he listens to a focus group again!

Even so, let's hope Mr. Gore runs. He may not be able to pull off the Nixon-style comeback of some bloggers' fantasies, but by pounding away on his best issues, he could at the very least play the role of an Adlai Stevenson or Wendell Willkie, patriotically goading the national debate onto higher ground. "I think the war looms over everything," said Karl Rove this month in bemoaning his boss's poll numbers. It looms over the Democrats, too. But the party's leaders would rather let John Murtha take the heat on Iraq; they don't even have the guts to endorse tougher fuel economy standards in their "new" energy policy. While a Gore candidacy could not single-handedly save the Democrats from themselves any more than his movie can vanquish "X-Men" at the multiplex, it might at least force the party powers that be to start facing some inconvenient but necessary truths.


Posted by: wv on May 28, 2006 11:35 AM

May 27, 2006 -- WMR has gone back into the archives to find an article from 2000 that explains the current love affair between Bill and Hillary Clinton and the family Bush. The "Third Way" was the launching pad for the current Tony Blair-George W. Bush-Democratic Leadership Council
troika of neo-con/communitarian control. The Third Way explains why only 14 Democrats (which, surprisingly included Mrs. Clinton) voted against the confirmation of Gen. Michael Hayden to be the next CIA Director. It explains why Democrats refuse to filibuster Bush's crop of extreme right-wing and fascist-inclined federal judges.

“THE THIRD WAY” TO A FASCIST WORLD?
The cryptic international political movement of Clinton and Blair

read the article..............................@

http://waynemadsenreport.com/

I remember in 1994, when Clinton set aside; by executive order, an EPA law preventing the use of under water sound experiments by the navy, out of concern for the marine mammals.
We've been having M Mammal strandings and distress ever since then!

PQ

Posted by: on May 28, 2006 12:38 PM

Awkward wording..........The EPA out of concern for marine mammels had mae the law protecting them , Clinton set it aside, "out of concern for the naval experiments promoting bigger & better warfare!
PQ

Posted by: on May 28, 2006 12:42 PM

http://snipurl.com/r1oh

Increased Privatization of Water

Pressure turned up in the war on water

Towns push to make service public again

For many towns across the country, it once seemed like a good idea to have municipal water utilities in the hands of private companies.

Now, bristling against skyrocketing rates, spotty service and foreign ownership, a number of towns across Illinois and the U.S. are waging fierce battles to regain control of their drinking water. A host of them are fighting a German conglomerate that has snapped up more than 1,800 American water utilities.

The battle is intensifying in Illinois, where the German company RWE and subsidiary Illinois American Water own the water supplies for more than 1 million people in 125 areas of the state.

Responding to complaints, American Water held meetings last week in Homer Glen, Orland Park and Bolingbrook hoping to mollify angry customers. Instead, they tapped into a deep vein of frustration.

“Everything we hear is double-talk,” said Debbie Litoborski of Homer Glen, who is fighting the company over an $800 water bill. “Should we call Germany to get the answers we need?”

In most of the country, including Chicago and many suburbs, water service remains a public utility. About 15 percent of America’s water business, however, is in private ownership. Those ranks have tripled in the last decade as cash-strapped cities seek ways to upgrade aging water systems by turning to private firms.

Nevertheless, a showdown is brewing in Illinois as a half-dozen communities are plotting to take over water systems. If they succeed, Illinois American could lose as many as one-third of its customers.

More…

Posted by: Pat C on May 28, 2006 02:38 PM

Al Gore: He's back -with a halo

http://news.independent.co.uk/people/profiles/article620274.ece

Posted by: Pat C on May 28, 2006 03:39 PM


PQ

The man thought to be dead on Everest is alive
and has talked to his wife, although he does't
remember too much of his ordeal. Now they have
to get him 15 miles to the bottom of the mountain.

Posted by: wv on May 28, 2006 06:14 PM

kiwi hope youre right, but murdoch's support of hillary is a ruse to get dems to nominate her thinking she will have cross over support needed to win. Once she has the nomination, it will be a walk in the park to smear her.

Posted by: on May 28, 2006 06:35 PM

will this new found respect and support for al gore build . . . or die out after the movie hype is over. he has no national platform and it is a long long time til 2008, politically speaking.

Posted by: on May 28, 2006 06:38 PM

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2651039

William Jefferson Whiplash!

Ok, just what the bloody hell is going on around the Capitol?

Last week, just last week, we had Alberto Gonzales threatening to ignore the First Amendment and take the unprecedented steps of prosecuting journalists. We had the DOJ claiming they didn't have the security clearances to investigate the NSA Spying issue. We had the SEC unable to move forward on tracking the money flow involved in the NSA due to actions taken by John Negroponte. We had the FCC, who wouldn't lift a finger. We had allegations of warrantless physical searches, indications that AT&T had provided access to our email and Rep James Sensenbrenner was starting to talk about allowing ISPs to track our website visits, meanwhile Alberto Gonzales is already doing it, law or no law.

This week, James Sensenbrenner says that the raid on Wililam Jeffersons office has created a Constitutional Crisis and in response Alberto Gonzales and FBI Director Robert Meuller have both threated to resign if the papers taken from Jefferson's Office - in a bribery case - are returned? What!!?

Jane at Firedoglake is completely flabberghasted on this one.

To say I do not understand WTF is going on between the Justice Department, the OVP, the White House and Congressional Republicans in the William Jefferson affair would be an understatement. I doubt right now if many can claim to know what this weird dance is all about.


Abu Gonzales has never found a position so base he could not justify at Dubya's request -- from torture to illegal wiretapping to threatening journalists and rubber stamping all manner of unlimited executive overreach -- but he's finally drawing a line in the sand over returning documents seized in a bribery scandal?

Dennis Hastert has gleefully played marionette to perhaps the biggest crook in the House, Tom DeLay, and has happily facilitated the White House's efforts to hack off limbs of Congressional authority, but now he's ready to force a constitutional crisis defending a member of the Black Congressional Caucus?


Georgia10 thinks is all about self-preservation.

I think Georgia is right, and then some. But what I wonder just what does this very sudden about face on privacy and Constitutional issues do to the Republican Congresses previous position that pretty much anything the NSA and FBI wanted to do to snoop and spy on the American people was just honky dory.

"If you've done nothing wrong - you have nothing to worry about!"

More...links within text

Posted by: Pat C on May 28, 2006 06:47 PM

Morgana - what a riveting article! Thank you so much...

found this new piece at starpathvisions... it is extremely interesting and more positive about Fitz than Francis Donald Grabau's last article was... very long, but I highly recommend it...

http://www.starpathvisions.com/FitzDeep4.7html.html

Posted by: Jo on May 28, 2006 07:27 PM


Frist: Gay Marriage and Flag Burning are Highest Priorities

We now know what Bill Frist's priorities are in the Senate and why he's such a horrific leader.

Video-WMP Video-QT

Transcript from ThinkProgress:
HOST: You talk about a lot of issues that affect people's lives. And yet you're going to bring two constitutional amendments to the Senate floor in the next few weeks, one to ban same-sex marriage, another to ban flag-burning, both reportedly in the papers to mobilize your conservative base. I have to tell you, I talked to a Republican senator this week who said he may vote for both of them but said they're both pandering. Are gay marriage and flag burning the most important issues the Senate can be addressing in June of 2006?

FRIST: Let me tell you what the agenda is real quick. Secure America's safety here at home. I mentioned supporting our troops overseas, making sure we pass that supplemental bill, making sure we tighten down our borders. securing America, a healthier America, so we’ll continiue to –

HOST: All right. But ...

FRIST: Let me tell you, right now there's no prioritization there. Securing America’' values. I hope tomorrow and today as people see that American flag, and I’m going to Arlington cemetery tomorrow and I'm going to see that flag waving on every grave over there. When you look at that flag and you tell me that right now people in this country are saying it’' okay to desecrate that flag and to burn it and to not pay respect to it, is that important to our values as a people when we’ve got 130,000 people fighting for our freedom and liberty today? That is important. It may not be important here in Washington where people say, well, it’s political posturing and all, but it’s important to the heart and soul of the American people.

Marriage — marriage, you asked about. Right now. Why marriage today? Marriage is for our society that union between a man and a woman, is the cornerstone of our society. It is under attack today. Right now there are 13 states who passed constitutional amendments in the last year and a half to protect marriage. Why? Because in nine states today, activist judges, unelected activist judges are tearing down state laws in nine states today. That’s why I will take it to the floor of the Senate, simply define marriage as the union between a man and a woman.

(h/t David Edwards)

Posted by: wv on May 28, 2006 08:17 PM

Frank Rich pondering a Gore 2008 run. Interesting. Al may get drafted and as Arianna Huffington pointed out he doesn't have to jump through the usual hoops.

Anyway, Frank Rich summarizes Al's leadership credentials.

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002576990

Posted by: Morgana on May 28, 2006 10:52 PM


As a veteran, I'm ashamed....

===
The Few, The Proud, The Murderers

By Pierre Tristam

Of course the first line of defense, for those craven enough to defend atrocities just because Americans commit them, is to say that Iraqis do worse.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13408.htm

Posted by: wv on May 28, 2006 11:59 PM


Father chastises Harper in eulogy to dead soldier

Kerry Williamson
CanWest News Service; Calgary Herald


Saturday, May 27, 2006


CALGARY - In an emotional eulogy for his daughter, the father of the first Canadian woman to die in combat issued a stern rebuke to Prime Minister Stephen Harper Friday, criticizing him for barring the media from his child's homecoming.

Tim Goddard, father of Capt. Nichola Goddard, said he could ''see no reason'' why media should be kept away from the ramp ceremonies at Canadian Forces Base Trenton.

''I find it troubling that the privacy decision means that we are keeping the press outside the wire, where the bad guys are,'' he said during her funeral in the same church where he gave the 26-year-old away as a bride just four years ago.

''I would like to think that Nichola died to protect our freedoms, not to restrict them.''

The Harper government has a policy of not allowing media onto the Trenton base when the bodies of Canadian soldiers return from Afghanistan. The policy was implemented last month, when the remains of four soldiers - Cpl. Matthew Dinning, Bombardier Myles Mansell, Lieut. William Turner, and Cpl. Randy Payne - arrived.

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=d2c49ee2-692d-4d99-8b08-9f1fd0ce4cf7

Posted by: wv on May 29, 2006 12:40 AM


World is blind to real situation in Iraq: activists


By ERIC JOHNSTON


Staff writer
OSAKA -- An Iraqi journalist and a Japanese human rights activist said the public has a poor idea of the situation in Iraq and warned of an impending health catastrophe as more Iraqis contract cancer from exposure to depleted uranium shells used by the U.S. and Britain.

Speaking at a public gathering Thursday evening in Osaka, Isam Rasheed, a freelance journalist, and Fumikazu Nishitani, head of Osaka-based NGO Rescue the Iraqi Children, gave an update of what was going on in the Middle Eastern country.

"It is now virtually impossible for foreign journalists to move around independently in Iraq," Nishitani said.

"Most (journalists) are embedded with U.S. forces or operate from the Green Zone, a walled fortress in central Baghdad. As a result, few people in the West, or in Japan, have seen the true extent of the damage and suffering in Fallujah, while the U.S. government continues to deny responsibility for the cancer and leukemia outbreaks."

"The world has seen little of the devastation wrought by U.S. troops on the city of Fallujah," Rasheed said. "Entire neighborhoods were destroyed and the number of innocent civilians killed and maimed the bombing was quite high."

http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20060527a8.html

Posted by: wv on May 29, 2006 01:02 AM

What People Believe

By Charley Reese

05/28/06 "Information Clearing House" -- -- How do you persuade a man who has a wife and children and who works hard but can barely make ends meet to take a pay cut and go do something that has a high probability of getting him killed or seriously injured?

Clearly, it is not in a man's self-interest to go to a foreign country and fight in a war, the outcome of which won't affect him or his family. So how do you persuade him to do it?

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13410.htm

Posted by: wv on May 29, 2006 01:12 AM

The Full Moon on June 11 will reveal the truth of how far and fast the Bushites intend to go, then whatever they create will lock in on June 17 and intensify with the Solstice.

http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=131&contentid=3541

Posted by: Patricia on May 29, 2006 02:22 AM

From Steve Judd's website:

"The more I look at the coming times, the more the dates of mid June jump at me. The Mars/Saturn conjunction around June 16 is at 8/9 degrees Leo and Chiron is at 9 Aquarius, with Jupiter at 9 Scorpio, three of the fixed signs. This falls directly on the sensitive points of GW Bush’s personal chart, being his Ascendant, Mercury and Pluto at 7, 9 and10 Leo, and his Ceres at 10 Aquarius. A realistic appraisal of this is that there is a short sharp degree of risk and/or danger to his well being or the well being of one of his parents. That this happens at the time when the Sun is opposite Pluto with it’s symbology of transformation is also highly significant. It’s when GW’s mental buttons could be pushed, when he could be more easily provoked or confrontational, when he’s more at risk physically. If I were advising him I would say to sit back and chill out for two or three days, and to count to ten before saying something or jumping to conclusions. And this won’t start to implode until Mars moves into Leo, in very early June."

Posted by: Neith on May 29, 2006 02:31 AM

Jo,
Thank you for posting the link~ http://www.starpathvisions.com/FitzDeep4.7html.html

Posted by: Starrynights/SN on May 29, 2006 03:14 AM

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article62

Bush 'planted fake news stories on American TV'

Federal authorities are actively investigating dozens of American television stations for broadcasting items produced by the Bush administration and major corporations, and passing them off as normal news. Some of the fake news segments talked up success in the war in Iraq, or promoted the companies' products.

Investigators from the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) are seeking information about stations across the country after a report produced by a campaign group detailed the extraordinary extent of the use of such items.

The report, by the non-profit group Centre for Media and Democracy, found that over a 10-month period at least 77 television stations were making use of the faux news broadcasts, known as Video News Releases (VNRs). Not one told viewers who had produced the items.

"We know we only had partial access to these VNRs and yet we found 77 stations using them," said Diana Farsetta, one of the group's researchers. "I would say it's pretty extraordinary. The picture we found was much worse than we expected going into the investigation in terms of just how widely these get played and how frequently these pre-packaged segments are put on the air."

Ms Farsetta said the public relations companies commissioned to produce these segments by corporations had become increasingly sophisticated in their techniques in order to get the VNRs broadcast. "They have got very good at mimicking what a real, independently produced television report would look like," she said.

More....

Posted by: Pat C on May 29, 2006 03:47 AM

I have a question. The moon's NN is going into Pisces and will start hitting my mars/venus conjunction at 22-24 Pisces in the 10th house pretty soon. I would think that would give me a chance to express my highest self publically/professionally. Does anyone else have any ideas as to what can I expect? It then hits my natal NN at 19 Pises, then Jupiter at 15 and eventually my sun at 0.

Posted by: on May 29, 2006 04:52 AM

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2006/05/28/cheney_aide_is_screening_legislation/?page=full
Cheney aide is screening legislation
Adviser seeks to protect Bush power

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/27/AR2006052700854.html

Schools Teach Combat Skills to Civilians

Posted by: Pat C on May 29, 2006 05:20 AM

Hello All,

I know we have a lot on our plates coming up as I have posted many times in many places and before we get into that I would like to draw your attention to some charts for Washington, DC for 2007. These charts are in the Sidereal Zodiac. After doing them in the Sidereal you can switch them to tropical if your program allows you to do so. If not, you may want to just look at the chart for Sep 19, 2007. At this time I am entertaining the idea that Bush may resign on the 19th or within a day of that date.

Please use the East Point in your charts.

Capsolar, Jan 15, 2007

Cansolar, Jul 17, 2007 and its Anlunar Sep 10, 2007

Transits Sep 19, 2007 at 1:02 PM, EDT

Caplunar Sep 21, 2007

Solar Eclipse Mar 18, 2007

Solar Eclipse Sep 11, 2007

In addition I used the Sibly Chart and it's secondary
progressions.

I would appreciate feedback from the esteemed members of
this list on these charts, but hurry before the fireworks
start in June.

bob

Posted by: bob on May 29, 2006 06:40 AM

To use an Americanism I've picked up on while visiting this site
"Pass me the popcorn" There are encouraging signs and maybe I won't have to build that bunker in the Southern Alps after all.
Is there an anti- Hillary movement in the Democratic party
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/is-there-an-antihillary_b_21734.html
And even more encouraging
The liberal challenge to Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-Conn.) escalated Friday when the political arm of MoveOn.org , an influential online advocacy group, endorsed the political newcomer opposing his bid for renomination
The recent very rapid decline (like in the last 2 weeks) in whatever popularity Hillary had should be of interest to astrologers. As to the why and is it a long term event?
Alas astrodatabank have a dirty data time for Hillary
http://www.astrodatabank.com/NM/ClintonHillary.htm
But hey you astrologers there should be sufficient evidence as to why the decline in popularity.
And us usual it's ole' Father Time that shows us the way tSaturn cjn or about to, radix Mars Pluto and Saturn
Hey hey just like Dubya it's Saturn return payback time. Let's hope she's done good in the last 28 odd years. And if she's passed the test there's nothing gobsmackling evident in her transits for around Nov 2008.
Directed Solar Arc also doesn't look gobsmackingly good.
Should you be inclined to further investigate Hillary go to
http://www.astrodatabank.com/NM/Feedback.asp?ChartID=862
There's an interesting forum however please remember that it's a dirty data (Conflicting/unverified) time.
And Geez does it ever make me growl when people comment using houses systems when they should be keeping in mind there's not a time that the best Astro data bank in the world is prepared to confirm as accurate.

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Posted by: on May 29, 2006 12:52 PM

Bob I love it when you post and reveal your astrological insights. Even though I am not an astrologer I am extremely curious and will have a look at those days.

May we live in interesting times indeed! :--)

Posted by: Laurie on May 29, 2006 01:20 PM

http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2006/05/29/remember_and_resist.php

Remember And Resist - James Carroll

Posted by: Pat C on May 29, 2006 02:58 PM

Thank you Bob!

Posted by: Pat C on May 29, 2006 02:59 PM

http://www.buzzflash.com/editorial/06/05/edi06041.html

Haditha is Just the Tip of the Iceberg, As My Lai Was in Vietnam

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http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2006/05/29/remember_and_resist.php

Remember And Resist – James Carroll

Posted by: Pat C on May 29, 2006 03:08 PM

FOCUS | Jason Leopold: George W. Bush and Kenneth Lay

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/052906Z.shtml

Jason Leopold reports that with Thursday's guilty verdicts against Lay and Skilling on numerous counts of accounting fraud, conspiracy, and dozens of other charges, perhaps Enron should be remembered as - in addition to a symbol of greed - the first in what has become a long list of scandals that can be directly linked to the White House.

Posted by: Pat C on May 29, 2006 03:20 PM

Peaceful day everyone. Here's the Civil War history of Memorial Day. http://www.usmemorialday.org/backgrnd.html
We're going out to the cemetary and put flowers on the grave of the unknown soldier.

Back on the 17th along with my BD emails I go letters from John Kerry and John Conyers. Both of them talking about getting donations for democratic campaigns. Kerry is asking for help with the Calif., Fla., and Washington state campaigns to stop the big oil lovers running. And John Conyers says he needs help to stop Rove from killing his own campaign. (Conyers will become majority leader when the Dems win.) This is his letter here.
http://www.conyersforcongress.com/mail/util.cfm?mailaction=clickthru&gpiv=1999983778.219490.209&gen=1&mailing_linkid=3189
John Kerry is at http://www.johnkerry.com

Posted by: Jill G on May 29, 2006 03:53 PM

http://www.madison.com/tct/opinion/column/index.php?ntid=85522

John Nichols: Bush and Ken Lay: partners in fraud

Posted by: Pat C on May 29, 2006 03:57 PM


Time Magazine


Sunday, May 28, 2006

Lights, Camera, Al Gore!
The ex-Vice President is enjoying an unlikely heyday as a movie star. All that buzz invites the question: Will he audition again for President?

By KAREN TUMULTY

Al Gore used to joke that it was easy to pick him out in a roomful of Secret Service agents: He was the stiff one. So he was the first to say how surreal it was to find himself the toast of Cannes last week. Over two days at the celebrated film festival, the former Vice President conducted what he figures were 48 interviews, many of them roundtable sessions, to accommodate the kind of interest that entertainment reporters usually bestow on people named Halle and Beyoncé. And then there was that encounter with Hugh Jackman, the Australian heartthrob whose expected summer blockbuster, X-Men: The Last Stand, was set to open in some 16,000 theaters around the world. "It was just a random comment, and here's how I remember it--Hugh Jackman saying, 'Well, I look forward to your movie,'" Gore told TIME with a lusty chortle. "And I thought to myself, Oooo-kay."

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/printout/0,8816,1198888,00.html

Posted by: wv on May 29, 2006 04:43 PM


Gingrich: Gov. Bush could be president

By Times Staff
Published May 28, 2006

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His brother's approval ratings are in the cellar, and that whole dynasty thing doesn't help. But don't underestimate Jeb Bush's prospects as a future presidential contender, says former U.S. House Speaker Newt Gingrich.

Probably '08 is a little bit tricky, but " '12 or '16 isn't. And he's a young enough guy (53) that he has a great future," Gingrich said on the Political Connections television show airing today on Bay News 9. "I just think his natural, personal ability is so great that people are going to realize he is not his father and he's not his brother. He's a very unique, charismatic leader with extraordinary capabilities. ... Jeb Bush may well be the most innovative (governor) in the entire country."

http://www.sptimes.com/2006/05/28/news_pf/State/Gingrich__Gov_Bush_co.shtml

Posted by: wv on May 29, 2006 04:47 PM

Riiight... no doubt a thief for a wife & druggie kids will be easy to cover over.

Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 29, 2006 05:07 PM

...which is no doubt a step up from bushaholic's wife who killed her boyfriend when both were at tender age.

Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 29, 2006 05:24 PM

I've decided to, for the most part, move on from the phrase "pink supremacists" to "killer class"... that'd be good.

Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 29, 2006 05:35 PM

...AND an Inconvenient Truth."

Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 29, 2006 05:51 PM

Gingrich is smoking crack. Who would even let another Bush in power after the way the current one has totally FUBARed this country? Even Republicans should have a visceral reaction to the thought. Then again, they are the party of "sheeple" and "know nothings" who blindly and gladly follow "The Decider", wrong or more wrong as he may be.

Posted by: NEOBuckeye on May 29, 2006 08:37 PM

Articles on the GC and Pluto
http://www.aquariuspapers.com/astrology/2006/05/pluto_is_conjun.html
http://www.astrologybydulce.com/pluto_and_the_galactic_center___.htm
http://www.indepthastrology.net/id70.html
Philip Sedgewick http://www.starcycles.com/pages/plutoarticle.html

I used to never give a hoot about movie stars' charts, but I found out that Katie Holmes and Brad Pitt both have unaspected natal Suns on the GC. Makes their lives seem more interesting to me.
http://astrodynamics.blogspot.com/2006/05/katie-holmes-brad-pitt-and-galactic.html

Posted by: Jill G on May 29, 2006 09:26 PM

Re: Jeb--I have misplaced his chart at the moment, but remember doing it when he was running for reelection against a much better candidate.

Anyhow according to my reading of his chart (and according to knowledgable Tallahassee gossips) Jeb has a very active and interesting sex life.) Consula prefers living in Miami to living in Tallahassee (go figure) and is only trotted out when campaign photos are needed.

Since sexual transgression is a more serious crime to the right wing than destroying the Constitution, causing global death and destruction, lying to the American people, and ruining the economy--maybe Jeb couldn't win.

Posted by: Barbara on May 29, 2006 10:51 PM

http://donkeyod.blogspot.com/2006/05/swift-boating-planet-by-paul-krugman.html

Swift Boating the Planet By PAUL KRUGMAN

A brief segment in "An Inconvenient Truth" shows Senator Al Gore questioning James Hansen, a climatologist at NASA, during a 1989 hearing. But the movie doesn't give you much context, or tell you what happened to Dr. Hansen later.

And that's a story worth telling, for two reasons. It's a good illustration of the way interest groups can create the appearance of doubt even when the facts are clear and cloud the reputations of people who should be regarded as heroes. And it's a warning for Mr. Gore and others who hope to turn global warming into a real political issue: you're going to have to get tougher, because the other side doesn't play by any known rules.

More....

Posted by: Pat C on May 29, 2006 10:54 PM

Correction on my Jeb comment: his wife is Columba, not Consuela.

Another interesting link re Jeb running for prez:

http://www.int.con/articles/2006/05/28/news/letter.php

Posted by: Barbara on May 30, 2006 12:19 AM

Them unintended consequences perhaps? hahaa

* Walls & troops at the US border could unseat cons in Mexico, sweep country into leftward shift of Latin America http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1102AP_Mexico_Immigration_Politics.html

Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 30, 2006 01:36 AM

Every movie lover is waiting for the release of the movie. Lot of talking about this one and you are also not behind.So a must watch this season!!

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