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Hecate 'The Word'
Full Moon Revelation
The three T-Squares in the sky above Washington DC gets amplification from a powerfully destructive Grand Water Trine. The focal planets of the T-Squares are, Neptune, Chiron and Jupiter Rx. A T-Square focuses it's power through the focal point. The Grand Water Trine includes Mars, Uranus and Jupiter Rx..
From Mark Twain
"Then the handful will shout louder. A few fair men on the other side will "Before long, you will see this curious thing: the speakers stoned from the "Next the statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon the -- Mark Twain, "The Mysterious Stranger" (1910)
Morgana Seawalker on May 12 | Link
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Morganna -- I would love to learn a bit more about Hecate -- is she a Celtic Goddess? Thank you so much for this wonderful article. Blessings, Ph Posted by: Philomena on May 12, 2006 08:33 PMPhilomena, My first post to your awesome website. I've been following it along for quite a bit of time, but this time I realized I had to post and that Hekate des Nordens was calling on me to do so. The triple goddess has been on my mind a lot lately. The name "Katrina" actually has a Hekate overtone, according to a very odd, and scarily prophetic site called "etemenanki", q.v. I've been working with my own Frostwolff Pantheon of Goddesses & Gods from Celtic, Greco-Roman, Norse and Feri traditions. Hekate is my "goddess of the North" with Hermes as the God. Years ago I wrote a song, that I had originally named "Face of the Future," but in the years since the pResidential Selection, I've changed the title to "Hekate's Prayer for the Common American." It has turned out to be most prophetic. But Hekate is a curious goddess. She was the one who told Demeter that Hades was now with Persephone. (I work with P. as well, and she has her own take on the "abduction.") Hekate is the goddess of the Crossroads and of witches. She is a friend to many seekers who wish to see in the dark. I have my own experiences of this goddess, including a short sabbatical she took from me for about six months. Anyway, here's the song: HEKATE'S PRAYER FOR THE COMMON AMERICAN Here you lie, in tatters Could it be that you have gone too far? Here, oh here I'm standing \|/ ;)Got it. Frostwolff that was beautiful thank you for sharing your song of Hekate. Fiona Morgan put out a Womyn's tarot deck 10 - 20 years ago and the tarot card for her had her deep in the earths caverns surrounded by gem stones and a stream running through it, and I have always co-associated her with Scorpio. She is a fascinating study and embodies to me Gaia and the word of life. Posted by: Morgana on May 12, 2006 09:51 PMLove it, love it, love it. One of my favorites Morgana, I love Hecate, the goddess with three heads, (a dog, a serpent, and a horse)along with two spectral dogs. and sometimes the heads are just dogs. Hecate is the QUEEN of all witches and rescued or acted as a protector of Persephone. I love her Morgana, she is my favorite goddess, well close to my favorite. Perfect article Posted by: Sally on May 12, 2006 09:55 PMMorgana, this is absolutely your best piece to date. Wow! And. . .what a powerful tribute, Frostwolff. Posted by: karen on May 12, 2006 10:07 PMWhat is it with the gods and goddesses that arouses our adoration and devotion over thousands of years? I hear so much hate for people, despair about the human condition, yet, these heroes are created out of mankind's imagination. Even when they commit atrocities we worship them and forgive them believing that they are acting naturally and these actions have an overall purpose. So we've created them in our image and maybe they are inspiring us to be ourselves and understand our greatness. They seem to lack shame. You are right, Morgana. The Moon and all her femaleness is a sudden juxtaposition with all this Jupiterian plutonian power. A big curve, for sure. Mythology is one of my greatest loves and I love you dreamers for bringing the gods and goddesses down to earth to talk with us. I would be lonely without them, but that's never happened.
http://www.paulsadowski.com/BirthData.asp Posted by: wv on May 12, 2006 11:03 PMFrom Morgana's article (bravo!! btw, Morgana): "malignant stew of swamp water will swirl into the public eye. Expect more shocking and upsetting revelations about the intentions of those in power." I just ran across this little goody from Think Progress.
CongressDaily reports that former NSA staffer Russell Tice will testify to the Senate Armed Services Committee next week that not only do employees at the agency believe the activities they are being asked to perform are unlawful, but that what has been disclosed so far is only the tip of the iceberg. Tice will tell Congress that former NSA head Gen. Michael Hayden, Bush’s nominee to be the next CIA director, oversaw more illegal activity that has yet to be disclosed: A former intelligence officer for the National Security Agency said Thursday he plans to tell Senate staffers next week that unlawful activity occurred at the agency under the supervision of Gen. Michael Hayden beyond what has been publicly reported, while hinting that it might have involved the illegal use of space-based satellites and systems to spy on U.S. citizens. … [Tice] said he plans to tell the committee staffers the NSA conducted illegal and unconstitutional surveillance of U.S. citizens while he was there with the knowledge of Hayden. … “I think the people I talk to next week are going to be shocked when I tell them what I have to tell them. It’s pretty hard to believe,” Tice said. “I hope that they’ll clean up the abuses and have some oversight into these programs, which doesn’t exist right now.” … Tice said his information is different from the Terrorist Surveillance Program that Bush acknowledged in December and from news accounts this week that the NSA has been secretly collecting phone call records of millions of Americans. “It’s an angle that you haven’t heard about yet,” he said. … He would not discuss with a reporter the details of his allegations, saying doing so would compromise classified information and put him at risk of going to jail. He said he “will not confirm or deny” if his allegations involve the illegal use of space systems and satellites. Tice has a history for blowing the whistle on serious misconduct. He was one of the sources that revealed the administration’s warrantless domestic spying program to the New York Times. http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/12/more-unlawful-activity/ Time to get our invisible underground 3 headed Hecateblog ups and running. Ph US plans to 'fight the net' revealed By Adam Brookes
As the world turns networked, the Pentagon is calculating the military opportunities that computer networks, wireless technologies and the modern media offer. From influencing public opinion through new media to designing "computer network attack" weapons, the US military is learning to fight an electronic war. The declassified document is called "Information Operations Roadmap". It was obtained by the National Security Archive at George Washington University using the Freedom of Information Act. Officials in the Pentagon wrote it in 2003. The Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld, signed it.
The "roadmap" calls for a far-reaching overhaul of the military's ability to conduct information operations and electronic warfare. And, in some detail, it makes recommendations for how the US armed forces should think about this new, virtual warfare. The document says that information is "critical to military success". Computer and telecommunications networks are of vital operational importance. Propaganda The operations described in the document include a surprising range of military activities: public affairs officers who brief journalists, psychological operations troops who try to manipulate the thoughts and beliefs of an enemy, computer network attack specialists who seek to destroy enemy networks. All these are engaged in information operations.
"Information intended for foreign audiences, including public diplomacy and Psyops, is increasingly consumed by our domestic audience," it reads. "Psyops messages will often be replayed by the news media for much larger audiences, including the American public," it goes on. The document's authors acknowledge that American news media should not unwittingly broadcast military propaganda. "Specific boundaries should be established," they write. But they don't seem to explain how. "In this day and age it is impossible to prevent stories that are fed abroad as part of psychological operations propaganda from blowing back into the United States - even though they were directed abroad," says Kristin Adair of the National Security Archive. Credibility problem Public awareness of the US military's information operations is low, but it's growing - thanks to some operational clumsiness.
Late last year, it emerged that the Pentagon had paid a private company, the Lincoln Group, to plant hundreds of stories in Iraqi newspapers. The stories - all supportive of US policy - were written by military personnel and then placed in Iraqi publications. And websites that appeared to be information sites on the politics of Africa and the Balkans were found to be run by the Pentagon. But the true extent of the Pentagon's information operations, how they work, who they're aimed at, and at what point they turn from informing the public to influencing populations, is far from clear. The roadmap, however, gives a flavour of what the US military is up to - and the grand scale on which it's thinking. It reveals that Psyops personnel "support" the American government's international broadcasting. It singles out TV Marti - a station which broadcasts to Cuba - as receiving such support. It recommends that a global website be established that supports America's strategic objectives. But no American diplomats here, thank you. The website would use content from "third parties with greater credibility to foreign audiences than US officials". It also recommends that Psyops personnel should consider a range of technologies to disseminate propaganda in enemy territory: unmanned aerial vehicles, "miniaturized, scatterable public address systems", wireless devices, cellular phones and the internet. 'Fight the net' When it describes plans for electronic warfare, or EW, the document takes on an extraordinary tone. It seems to see the internet as being equivalent to an enemy weapons system. "Strategy should be based on the premise that the Department [of Defense] will 'fight the net' as it would an enemy weapons system," it reads. The slogan "fight the net" appears several times throughout the roadmap. The authors warn that US networks are very vulnerable to attack by hackers, enemies seeking to disable them, or spies looking for intelligence. "Networks are growing faster than we can defend them... Attack sophistication is increasing... Number of events is increasing." US digital ambition And, in a grand finale, the document recommends that the United States should seek the ability to "provide maximum control of the entire electromagnetic spectrum". US forces should be able to "disrupt or destroy the full spectrum of globally emerging communications systems, sensors, and weapons systems dependent on the electromagnetic spectrum". Consider that for a moment. The US military seeks the capability to knock out every telephone, every networked computer, every radar system on the planet. Are these plans the pipe dreams of self-aggrandising bureaucrats? Or are they real? The fact that the "Information Operations Roadmap" is approved by the Secretary of Defense suggests that these plans are taken very seriously indeed in the Pentagon. And that the scale and grandeur of the digital revolution is matched only by the US military's ambitions for it.
Published: 2006/01/27 18:05:49 GMT © BBC MMVI jm - There is no doubt in my mind that you could charm the magic girdle off of Venus or pacify the wrath of Juno. Ph Posted by: Philomena on May 12, 2006 11:28 PMAlong a major county highway in central Iowa, for about 10 miles, a large boulder is placed near every single smaller road that bisects the county highway, i.e., crossroads. Upon each boulder are piled successively smaller rocks. What does it mean? I seem to recall that Hecate, goddess of Witches and crossroads, was once honored with such a display. Am I wrong? I pass this way once a year to visit relatives outstate, and I offer a nod to Hecate, even if I am mistaken. Posted by: Joe on May 12, 2006 11:56 PM Rove Informs White House He Will Be Indicted Friday 12 May 2006 Karl Rove told President Bush and Chief of Staff Joshua Bolten, as well as a few other high level administration officials, within the last week that he will be indicted in the CIA leak case and will immediately resign his White House job when the special counsel publicly announces the charges against him, according to people knowledgeable about these discussions. Details of Rove's discussions with the president and Bolten have spread through the corridors of the White House where low-level staffers and senior officials were trying to determine how the indictment would impact an administration that has been mired in a number of high-profile political scandals for nearly a year, said a half-dozen White House aides and two senior officials who work at the Republican National Committee. Speaking on condition of anonymity, sources confirmed Rove's indictment is imminent. These individuals requested anonymity saying they were not authorized to speak publicly about Rove's situation. A spokesman in the White House press office said they would not comment on "wildly speculative rumors." Rove's attorney, Robert Luskin, did not return a call for comment Friday. Rove's announcement to President Bush and Bolten comes more than a month after he alerted the new chief of staff to a meeting his attorney had with Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald in which Fitzgerald told Luskin that his case against Rove would soon be coming to a close and that he was leaning toward charging Rove with perjury, obstruction of justice and lying to investigators, according to sources close to the investigation. A few weeks after he spoke with Fitzgerald, Luskin arranged for Rove to return to the grand jury for a fifth time to testify in hopes of fending off an indictment related to Rove's role in the CIA leak, sources said. That meeting was followed almost immediately by an announcement by newly-appointed White House Chief of Staff Joshua Bolten of changes in the responsibilities of some White House officials, including Rove, who was stripped of his policy duties and would no longer hold the title of deputy White House chief of staff. The White House said Rove would focus on the November elections and his change in status in no way reflected his fifth appearance before the grand jury or the possibility of an indictment. But since Rove testified two weeks ago, the White House has been coordinating a response to what is sure to be the biggest political scandal it has faced thus far: the loss of a key political operative who has been instrumental in shaping White House policy on a wide range of domestic issues. Late Thursday afternoon and early Friday morning, several White House officials were bracing for the possibility that Fitzgerald would call a news conference and announce a Rove indictment today following the prosecutor's meeting with the grand jury this morning. However, sources close to the probe said that is unlikely to happen, despite the fact that Fitzgerald has already presented the grand jury with a list of charges against Rove. If an indictment is returned by the grand jury, it will be filed under seal. Rove is said to have told Bolten that he will be charged with perjury regarding when he was asked how and when he discovered that covert CIA operative Valerie Plame Wilson worked for the agency, and whether he discussed her job with reporters. Rove testified that he first found out about Plame Wilson from reading a newspaper report in July 2003 and only after the story was published did he share damaging information about her CIA status with other reporters. However, evidence has surfaced during the course of the two-year-old investigation that shows Rove spoke with at least two reporters about Plame Wilson prior to the publication of the column. The explanation Rove provided to the grand jury - that he was dealing with more urgent White House matters and therefore forgot - has not convinced Fitzgerald that Rove has been entirely truthful in his testimony. Sources close to the case said there is a strong chance Rove will also face an additional charge of obstruction of justice, adding that Fitzgerald has been working meticulously over the past few months to build an obstruction case against Rove because it "carries more weight" in a jury trial and is considered a more serious crime. Some White House staffers said it's the uncertainty of Rove's status in the leak case that has made it difficult for the administration's domestic policy agenda and the announcement of an indictment and Rove's subsequent resignation, while serious, would allow the administration to move forward on a wide range of issues. "We need to start fresh and we can't do that with the uncertainty of Karl's case hanging over our heads," said one White House aide. "There's no doubt that it will be front page news if and when (an indictment) happens. But eventually it will become old news quickly. The key issue here is that the president or Mr. Bolten respond to the charges immediately, make a statement and then move on to other important policy issues and keep that as the main focus going forward." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jump to todayhttp://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/051206Y.shtml's TO Features: Joe, from Merlin Stones book, "Ancient Mirrors of Woman", " Those who later called upon the magic of Hecate, spoke Her name in the woods of Thessaly and Greece, as magician and wizard, sorcerer and witch, followed Her ancient knowledge. There they used the scared cauldron at the threefold crossroads, in the darkness of a moonless night, adding wine or milk, or blood in which to stir the sacred herbs, only those had grown by moonlight, adding sacred stones from the East, using the olive or the willow twig to stir the contents of the bubbling, boiling cauldron---as those who called upon Hecate circled thrice about Her altar, laying flames twigs upon it".
Excellent Morgana! The Peaceful Shepherd If heaven were to do again, I should be tempted to forget, For these have governed in our lives, Robert Frost Posted by: Pat C on May 13, 2006 12:24 AMAlchemy Simple acceptance This was posted by Grace on another site. “”The makers of our Constitution undertook to secure conditions favorable to the pursuit of happiness. They recognized the significance of man’s spiritual nature, of his feelings and of his intellect. They knew that only a part of the pain, pleasure and satisfactions of life are to be found in material things. They sought to protect Americans in their beliefs, their thoughts, their emotions and their sensations. They conferred, as against the government, the right to be let alone-the most comprehensive of rights and the right most valued by civilized men.” Is Hecate the ancient name of Luna? Posted by: Philomena on May 13, 2006 01:26 AMThank you Morgana for a wonderfully crafted and seering post. I have been reading all of you but unable to respond...this Saturn Return and Opposition is keeping me pretty damn busy, and off balance. At class with Jacob Schwartz's Mundane Astrology Class the other night... We share a lot of political info as well as do the charts of political people and places. One member of the class shared that the Pentagon is planning to detonate a 700 megaton bomb in Nevada just for practice...like the prototype of the bunker buster something or other... yep, scheduled for June 2nd, but postponed until late June because there are glitches. Also the Indian population is really very concerned...the sand is already radioactive from where our government detonated our nuclear bombs in the past...in Nevada. Anybody else hear about this or following this story? I practically got sick to my stomach for the sadness I felt. It was as if I were the planet, the earth being brutalized, beaten by an abusive husband and with no way out. I cannot describe the feeling. I went home and wept copiously for a time ... What little I know about Hecate is that Yes Beasley, it is true. It was set for June 2 and then postponed until later in the month Posted by: Sally on May 13, 2006 04:46 AMWhat can you do? It all does what it does. There's a recurrent theme in many of my songs of hidden treasure and secret pleasures, and the journey down to the middle of the earth to get them. Of flucuating fortunes, and of dark and light. The journey through our own interior landscapes. One called The Wheel Will come Around is set to a hypnotic tune, slow rhythm, in the key of D with a conga drum and sitar accompaniment. A simple song. The Wheel will Come Around Should I tell a story right now to you Tell you about someone I know One of these days the wheel will come around Since I've been around I've always heard you complain The drunks, and the dreamers, and the drifters too The years come through and the years drift away Did you go down deep in the ground The water flows in a silver stream It's been such a long time gettin down here People wonder how I get by So spin the wheel round one more time Spin the wheel if you wanna play the game Spin the wheel till it comes up right
Learnt something knew today, about Hecate, the wise goddess of wisdom. I would love to know more about her and more than that keen to meet her. Posted by: Lesslie on May 13, 2006 12:13 PMLesslie, With this full moon landing exactly on my mercury, which is conjunct mars on the 12th house side of my ASC, there have been all sorts of info boiling up into my conscious mind. A couple of thoughts that seem to fit here: there seem to be quite a few of us w/that Saturn/Pluto in Leo conjunction here, all moving gracefully into the Crone phase of our lives. We are coming under the influence of Hecate with all the painfully earned wisdom we need to share with others. From personal experience, I find being free of the whole hormone driven phase of life very liberating. Now it’s much easier to focus on the larger picture & join in discussions like the wonderful ones that evolve here under the aegis of Sally. We are becoming a force to be reckoned with in the world at large & the internet is a great way to bring share information with people everywhere. Thank you Sally & Morgana for your really amazing writings. Wow! Neith Beasley, to add insult upon insult to our collective spirituality the 700 ton bomb 'exercise' in the Nevada desert is named Divine Strake. If you ever listen to Randi Rhodes on Air America Radio you'll see how she's going ballistic over this. Here's a piece on it in Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_Strake Neith, I'm coming up to my 2nd Saturn Return too. And I love being post menopausal! It's by far the best time in my life and I wouldn't trade it for anythng. So much that is so unimportant just falls away, and what is important happens because now one is prepared and experienced enough for it. I consider the crone stage of life to be a natural step up in life, not a loss of something. It's an initiation, a new beginning. Posted by: Goldensilence on May 13, 2006 05:36 PMBlessed Be to the Crones! It IS, indeed, a fantastic stage of Life. The ba'bos are stuffed with 'em. Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 13, 2006 06:05 PMJoanna & Goldensilence - I couldn't agree more! Something else occured to me too, beware any attempt to prolong the "breeding" stage of a woman's life. It's just FULL of false promises: we got here the hard way & we have the wrinkles & wisdom to prove it!! Crones Rule . . . and we need to because it's on this side of menopause where clear thinking and pragmatism are the order of the day. Posted by: Neith on May 13, 2006 06:12 PMRemember that Capricorn rules old age and Pluto rules power. You never know what you are being prepared for. Posted by: jm on May 13, 2006 06:21 PMAnother indication that Rove will be indicted . . . Happiness and peace to any Buddhist folks on this Wesak (or Vesak) day celebrating the Buddha's birthday. I know you'll include this country and the whole world in your meditations today. Morgana, Hecate and Twain in one article. Wow. THE CREATION OF THE WORLD ... The Earth, the Sky, & the Sea were once mingled together in the same form, until a compelling music sounded from nowhere & they separated, yet remained one universe still. This mysterious music announced the birth of the soul of Eurynome; for that was the original name of the Great Triple Goddess, whose symbol is the Moon. She was the universal Goddess & she was alone. Being alone [Uni-verse], she presently felt lonely, standing between blank earth, empty water, & the accurately circling constellations of Heaven. She rubbed her cold hands together, & when she opened them again, out slid the serpent Ophion, whom from curiosity she admitted to love with her. From the fearful convulsions of this act of love rivers sprang, mountains rose, lakes swelled; it caused all manner of creeping things & fish & beasts to be born & populate the earth. Immediately ashamed of what she had done, Eurynome killed the serpent & sent his ghost underground; but as an act of justice she banished a mulberry faced shadow of herself to live underground with the ghost. She renamed the serpent “Death,” & her shadow she named “Hekate.” From the scattered teeth of the dead serpent sprang up the Sown race of men, who were shepherds, cowherds & horse herds, but neither tilled the soil nor engaged in warfare. Their food was milk, honey, nuts, & fruit, & they knew nothing of metallurgy. So ended the first Age, that had been the Age of Stone. Eurynome continued to live in Earth, Sky & Sea. Her Earthself was Rhea, with the breath of gorse-flower & amber-coloured eyes. As Rhea one day she went to visit Crete ... In Crete, out of sun & vapour, feeling lonely again, Rhea contrived a man-god named Cronus to be her lover. To satisfy her maternal craving, she then every year bore herself a Sun-Child in the Dictean Cave; but Cronus was jealous of the Sun-Children & killed them, one after the other. Rhea concealed her displeasure. She said smilingly to Cronus one day: “Give me, dear one, the thumb & fingers of your left hand. A single hand is enough for such a lazy god as you are. I will make 5 little gods out of them to obey your instructions while you recline here with me on the lowery bank. They will guard your feet & legs from unnecessary fatigue.” He accordingly gave her his left thumb & fingers, & out of them she made 5 little gods called the Dactyls, or Finger Gods, & crowned them with myrtle crowns. They caused him a deal of amusement by their sport & dancing. But Rhea secretly instructed the Dactyls to hide from Cronus the next Sun-Child that she bore. They obeyed her & deceived Cronus, putting an axe-shaped thunder-stone in a sack & pretending that it was Rhea’s child which, as usual, they were throwing into the sea for him. This gave rise to the proverb, that the right hand should always be aware of what the left hand is doing. Rhea could not herself suckle the child, whom she named Zagreus, without rousing the suspicions of Cronus; & therefore the Dactyls brought a fat sow to be his foster-mothera circumstance of which Zagreus afterwards did not like to be reminded. Later, because they found it inconvenient to drown his infant voice with loud drumming & piping whenever he cried, they weaned him from the sow & took him away from Mt Dicte. They consigned him to the care of certain shepherds who lived far to the west, on Mt Ida, where his fare was sheep’s cheese & honey. So the second Age, that had been the Golden Age, drew to a close. Rhea hastened on the new Age by fostering agriculture, & by teaching her servant, Prometheus the Cretan, how to make fire artificially with the fylfot fire-wheel. She laughed long to herself when Zagreus castrated & killed his father Cronus with a golden sickle that Prometheus had forged, & still longer when he tried to disguise himself as a starved & bedraggled cuckoo & pleaded to be nursed back to life in her bosom. She pretended to be deceived, & when he resumed his true shape she allowed him to enjoy her. “Yes, indeed, my little god,” she said, “you may be my loving servant if you wish.” But Zagreus was insolent & answered: “No, Rhea, I will be your master & instruct you what to do. I am more cunning than you, for I deceived you with my cuckoo disguise. And I am also more reasonable than you. By an act of reason I have just invented Time. Now that Time has begun with my Advent, we can have dates & history & genealogy instead of timeless, wavering myth. And recorded Time, with its chain of detailed cause & consequence, will be the basis of logic.” Rhea was astonished & did not know whether to crush him to atoms with one blow of her sandal or whether to lie back & scream with mirth. In the end, she did neither. She said no more than this: “O Zagreus, Zagreus, my little Sun-Child, what strange notions you have sucked in from the dugs of your foster-mother, the Sow of Dicte!” He answered: “My name is Zeus, not Zagreus; & I am a Thunder-Child, not a Sun-Child; & I was suckled by the She-goat Amalthea of Ida, not by the Sow of Dicte.” “That is a triple lie,” said Rhea, smiling. “I know that,” he answered. “But I am big & strong enough now to tell triple lies, or even 7-fold lies, without fear of contradiction. If I am of a bilious temper, that is because the ignorant shepherds of Ida fed me with too much honeycomb. You must beware of my masterful ways, Mother, I warn you, for from now onwards, I, not you, am the Sole Sovereign of All Things.” Rhea sighed & answered happily: “Dear Zagreus, or Zeus, or whatever you care to be called, have you indeed guessed how weary I am of the natural order & tidiness of this manifest universe, & of the thankless labour of supervising it? Rule it, Child, rule it, by all means! Let me lie back & meditate at my ease. Yes, I will be your wife & daughter & slave; & whatever strife or disorder you bring into my beautiful universe by any act of reason, as you call it, I will forgive you, because you are still very young & cannot be expected to understand things as well as I do. But pray be careful of the Three Furies that have been born from the drops of blood falling from your father’s severed genitals; make much of them or they will one day avenge him. Let us have recorded Time & dates & genealogy & history, by all means; though I foresee that they will cause you far more anxiety & pleasure than they are worth. And by all means use Logic as a crutch for your crippled intelligence & a justification of your absurd errors. However, I must first make a condition; there shall be two islands, one in the Western Sea & one in the Eastern, which I shall retain for my ancient worship. There neither yourself nor any other deity that you may divide yourself into shall have any jurisdiction, but only myself & my serpent Death when I chose to send for him. The western shall be the island of Innocence & the eastern that of Illumination; in neither will any record be kept of time, but every day shall be as a 1000 years, or contrariwise.” Then at once she made the western island rise from the waters, like a garden, at a day’s sail from Spain; & she also cast a cloud about the severed member of Cronus, & the Dactyls conveyed it safely to the eastern island, which was already in existence, where it became their companion, the jolly fish-headed god Priapus. Then Zeus said: “I accept your condition, Wife, if you agree that your other self, Amphitrite, shall surrender the Sea to my shadow brother Poseidon.” Rhea answered: “I agree, Husband, only reserving for my own use the waters that extend for 5 mi about my two islands; you may also rule in the Sky instead of Eurynome, with possession of all the stars & planets & of the Sun itself; but I reserve the Moon for my own.” So they clasped hands on the bargain, & to show his power Zeus dealt her a resounding box on the ear, & danced in menace an armed jig, clashing his thunderstone axe against his golden shield so that the thunder rolled horribly across the vault of Heaven. Rhea smiled. She had not bargained away her control of 3 most important things, which Zeus never afterward succeeded in wresting from her: wind, death & destiny. This is why she smiled. Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 13, 2006 10:03 PMMorgana, and DENNIS, I have been away from my computer all Friday and most of Sat, so I wish to thank you for your help re: taxes...I will take your advice and call... Posted by: judiGem on May 13, 2006 10:40 PMBREAKING | Jason Leopold: Karl Rove Indicted on Charges of Perjury, Lying to Investigators Jason Leopold reports that on Friday, May 12, Fitzgerald served attorneys for former Deputy White House Chief of Staff Karl Rove with an indictment charging the embattled White House official with perjury and lying to investigators related to his role in the CIA leak case, and instructed one of the attorneys to tell Rove that he has 24 hours to get his affairs in order, high level sources with direct knowledge of themeeting said Saturday morning. I'd like to add that Jason Leopold and I have exchanged email...acouple of years ago he was fired from (???? can't remmber, was it Slate?), I think, for reporting on the energy situation which is referenced at the bottom of the article on Rove's indictment on perjury, lying etc....(h'lll probably only get a couple of months if Marth's case is any standard)....anyway, since I have a friend who is an energy reporter for Reuter's SF office, I sort of tried to get some feedback for Jason from a couple of writer friends. He was so shocked. But I knew he would turn out allright, and he has on this...yes, there is a good ending for the good guys... And I started to post this when I started reading all of this new stuff in response to Morgana on Hecate...and realized that I have two things to say, both happend out of my silk screening class on Friday...one: I am nearing completion on a work which started out to be an oak tree and didn't feel interesting....so I just kind of glided along and did a sleeping dragon, with it's coiled tail dipping into a river of lava, all of which appears to be under ground from this oak tree. The dragon is the symbol of earth. But it also sounds like the description Morgana gave of the cave with the gemsones and underground river, which I have also always used as meditation location! Of course, I am Scorpio rising....! And then the second thing came from a conversation with Ted, and older than me man who has been doing silk screening for 30 years...but is a retired scientist. We were talking about 12/21/2012 ..... and he started telling me about the polar shift, and what happens with the wobble (this is all the Michael Mandeville info WV has posted, also) and as he was describing how the wobble weakens gravity until the poles flip, I realized that (he asked me if I knew what would happen) we would be GRAVITILESS.....and would float up into the air....and I saw the elements known as THE RAPTURE....an actual physical possibility after all..... But of course, those transits for 6/24/2012 are right on my 8 Aries Mars. So now I've got to figure that out.... Glad to see Philomenia is bringing new energy and reference and some new friends to this site, even if it is because of a terrible tragedy...it is our gain but such a terrible loss. Posted by: judiGem on May 13, 2006 11:00 PMNeith, you're supposed to be able to think clearly AFTER menopause? Yikes....it's been awhile, and so far the only clear thinking I've done is recently, when I started taking benedryl to stop the hideous pollen/allergies mess....and it works! I AM starting to think clearly...I think. Posted by: judiGem on May 13, 2006 11:17 PMjm....nice and lovely work on that song....wish I could hear it in real time...love sitar! Some said it was the most incredibly beautiful experience of their lives. The guy who cut the rope out of her mouth says her eye was following him the whole time, and he will never be the same. May you, and all those you love, be so blessed and fortunate----to be surrounded by people who will help you get untangled from the things that are binding you. And, may you always know the joy of giving and receiving gratitude. I pass this on to you, in the same spirit.
That's gorgeous Joanna. A unique telling of the story. I never knew Zeus didn't have dominion over the wind. I will ponder this. Posted by: jm on May 13, 2006 11:25 PMI guess that would be the Furies and the wind, but I hadn't thought of Zeus being overpowered. I'll have to brush up. Posted by: jm on May 13, 2006 11:27 PMYou're an angel, Judi. Posted by: jm on May 13, 2006 11:29 PMFor one thing, jm... I have been long suspicious of the xian creation myths I grew up with because it was a "male god" who "made" or "manufactured" the world. Factory assembly line, yes? Rather 2nd hand & dead. But a Great Cosmic Mother who gives birth to all creation has a totally different "Livingness" feel associated with it, yes? Ahhh... much better... much, much better. ;O) The Greek myth I posted above is obviously expressing the change from an ancient matrifocal to a patriarchal system. We can note how much the character of Zagreus resembles the prototypal chest-thumping hideous fool, boooosh. Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 13, 2006 11:48 PMBREAKING | Jason Leopold: Karl Rove Indicted on Charges of Perjury, Lying to Investigators Jason Leopold reports that on Friday, May 12, Fitzgerald served attorneys for former Deputy White House Chief of Staff Karl Rove with an indictment charging the embattled White House official with perjury and lying to investigators related to his role in the CIA leak case, and instructed one of the attorneys to tell Rove that he has 24 hours to get his affairs in order, high level sources with direct knowledge of themeeting said Saturday morning. Or rather, the prototypal chest-thumping hideous fool, boooosh, resembles the childish, boorish character of Zagreus. Hahahaaa... Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 13, 2006 11:57 PMI can tell we all are perfectly delighted with the apprehension of another childish boorish character, rover-boy. ;O) Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 14, 2006 12:00 AMjm...you wrote: I believe mythology was early psychology...the 'myths' are the 'archetypes' which define human consciousness. Where they come from....that is a different story, one I don't know. Nor would I dare to guess.... Posted by: judiGem on May 14, 2006 12:03 AMJ.O. I've always loved Greek mythology because they all seemed to have power. The three female fates especially, which is why I write about then so often. Checks and balances, n'est-ce pas? My theory is that there is a primordial feeling that the earth is feminine and might be why the religious philosophies that short change the feminine are not working. They have to overdo the bravado and all. It all comes back to fear. And maybe under the circumstances, heaven has been given a male gender for balance. The answer is equal reverance. But all humans recognize female power as it is really equal to male. It's just there no matter what. The struggle for dominance is also there for a reason, although, at the present time we are not doing well. The polarity of the two and the friction created might be partly for the bang that results when the two unite and create new life. There are secrets to knowing why the dichotomy exists and, of course, different ways of acting it out and it is a fascinating subject for me. Posted by: jm on May 14, 2006 12:04 AM Pat C...thanks for all those gems from Twain, Brandeis, etc....I've been sending them to friends.... here's another thing breaking\ Reuters.com - Cheney pushed to widen eavesdropping - NY Times
* Iran's President advises West not to be nervous Iran's hardline President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad advised Western nations that they shld not be nervous of Tehran's controversial nuclear program & instead have fun, AFP reported. Ahmadinejad was asked at the conclusion of a summit of Muslim nations here whether Iran would stop enriching uranium because of concerns from Western countries. "Those who are nervous, there is no need for them to be nervous. They are nervous because of their arrogance, selfish & exclusivist tendencies," he told a press briefing. "All of them know 100% that the nuclear program of Iran is totally peaceful ... We advise them not to become nervous. They can use this beautiful air. They can have fun," he said. ... WhaddaHOOT!! How Sagittarian is that?!? I like this guy... shows intelligence & a sense of humor... great & must-have qualities in a leader imo. Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 14, 2006 12:08 AMWhat a fertile full moon with all these songs, poems, and stories, including original work, posted. Also, new posters are coming forth to contribute, creating an immense richness here :-)Great song, jm...I can just hear it sung to the mellow, soulful musical background that you describe. And, Judi, the whale story is breathtaking. I have had a few personal communications with animals, ....a manatee who stayed around a dock for hours playing with and drinking from a hose that various people, including myself, took turns dangling into its mouth ...a single, very huge lion pacing in its iron cage who layed down calmly after I stood there quietly gazing at it with a great deal of love and compassion for a good 15 minutes. This is turning out to be a WONDERFUL Scorpion full moon for me, in my 5th house, trining my Pisces and Cancerian 1st house, bringing a great new real estate client, improvement in my relationship with my husband, lots of fun & sociability in general, the idea of taking a painting class on color and design, and the planning of some wonderful vacations in June (to Montana to white water raft with my Geminian sister-in-law, to Miami! to see all my friends & family that I've missed for 3 years (3 more Geminians), and then to Jacksonville to see a few more). I feel the activation of my 5th house! What fun! I wish all of you the joy of jupiter and the wisdom of Hecate on this full moon. Go Crones! Posted by: on May 14, 2006 12:09 AMJudi -- I do not know if you would be interested in trying herbal therapy to help you with your allergies -- if so, I would suggest stinging nettle. You can either take it as a tea, extract or in caps. If you have time -- do a little research on the internet regarding herbs to take to treat allergies or sinusitis conditions. Oh Oh Oh , Judi! Yes. I believe! The treasures I seek in life are those hidden in the psyche. Somewhere where conscious knowledge and subconscious feeling meet. Just as astrology is a projection of our inner world, I think mythology is also a navigational map to our self understanding. But what a way to get there! BTW, Phil. Charming the girdle off Venus sounds like a dicey adventure even for an Aries rising! Posted by: jm on May 14, 2006 12:18 AM
U.N. inspectors have ["found"] traces of highly enriched uranium on equipment from an Iranian research center linked to the military, diplomats said Friday - a revelation [they say is] likely to strengthen U.S. arguments that Tehran wants to develop nuclear arms. The "diplomats", who "demanded anonymity" in exchange for divulging the confidential information, cautioned that confirmation still had to come through other laboratory tests. What a load of crap. If you can't divulge your sources, we can assume that either you're lying or they're lying. Either put up or shut-up. "These are diplomats, not undercover agents." It's not their identities they're trying to protect, but the veracity of their claims against question. Initially, they said the density of enrichment appeared to be close to or above the level used to make nuclear warheads. But later a diplomat accredited to the International Atomic Energy Agency said it was below that, although higher than the low-enriched material used to generate power and heading toward weapons-grade level. The only thing this "proves," if anything, is that Iran imported equipment for enriching uraniam for nuclear energy production - activity completely within its rights under the NPT. How it got contaminated with uranium enriched to unspecified levels above that needed for energy remains the realm of pure speculation. Nevermind, they say - these are minor details. We must focus on the bigger picture that they want to establish - Iran is guilty until proven innocent. Even then, nevertheless, the find would be significant. Because Iran has previously denied conducting enrichment-related activities at the site, the mere fact the traces came from there bolsters arguments that it has hidden parts of a program that can create the fissile material used in nuclear warheads. Additionally, the site's connection to the military weakens Iranian arguments that its nuclear program is purely civilian. "That has long been suspected as the site of undeclared enrichment research and ... the Iranians have denied that any enrichment research had taken place at that location," said Iran expert Gary Samore of the MacArthur Foundation in Chicago. "It certainly does reinforce the agency's suspicion that Iran has not fully declared its past enrichment research." A member of the Council on Foreign Relations. Ah, that explains everything. We can trust him - about as far as we can throw him. Perhaps myths are, or would be, the archetypes of human psychology if there had never been a birth of evil versus good in the religious sense. It's hard for us to see the simple truth of myths because we are taught shame about that facet of ourselves. The result has been that throughout history it comes out anyway - in the form of violence: wars, rape murder secret envy, jealousy, and shame based hate crimes against children. Goddess is a temptress to the self appointed holy men who secretly fear her for that. Temptress is powerful in men's psyche and overwhelms them so they are ashamed of this 'weakness' and suppress it until it must come out as violence. This simple fact is what has made men everywhere treat women as if they are dirty and inferior. Because their own fear and their shame makes them feel dirty they project it onto women. Posted by: Goldensilence on May 14, 2006 12:19 AMMales who are, after all, biologically modified females, will continue to have a long hard go of it as long as he, thru his creation of the ego, thinks he is apart from & totally alienated from creation. Unfortunately, so will the rest of us... for as long as we last thru his "chest-equipped-with-useless-nipples-thumpin'"... I'm real tired of this "Seesta." Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 14, 2006 12:21 AMFrostwolff...very much enjoyed your poem to Americans....I can relate, thanks for posting....welcome to the gaggle.... Posted by: judiGem on May 14, 2006 12:21 AMI think shame is it, GS. But women feel and project it just as much, which might or might not be men's fault. In the myths we can watch our heroes act out the taboos and frightening human impulses safely. Maybe in time we will marry these heroes and become more enchanted enlightened beings. We still get ideas from them. * Venezuela's Chavez Extends Cheap Heating Oil Program to Europe Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, who sold almost 40 million gallons of discounted heating oil to the US last winter, said today he'd extend the program to Europe in a gesture to help the needy. ... http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000086&sid=ayTf7G2G6d50&refer=latin_america Oh, I love it... especially by contrast narcissistic booosh & fellow criminals are obviously helping nobody but theyselves. Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 14, 2006 12:31 AMAnd the Iranian president is really nice looking, too. ;O) Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 14, 2006 12:33 AMGs...ah, no, goddesses once ruled ....30,000 years ago they ruled. They were supplanted at the time of the birth of writing....which was only about 8K years ago (6,000 BC)... The birth of 'evil'.....no, I don't think so, evil is always the twin soul of human beings....the shadow. Which is why, I think, people project such things on to 'gods' as it is just too powerful for their 'little' selves. All myths can be interpreted not only as psychology but as astrology....because the archtypes run true. There is actually an excellent book by a fellow out of CO who wrote about archtypes astrologically (The Inner Guide Meditation by Edward Steinbreicher). I have read much in psychology about the myth, archetypesetc, and Pan is still my favorite (don't remember the psychologist/psychiatrist who wrote it, but I think it was British)....I thinkthe one on Psyche is by a fellow named Johnson, who also wrote about the story of Jason and the Golden Fleece. He saw Jason (and his journey) as the archetype of the male journey, and Psyche as the female archetypal journey (all that SORTING!) That is what I was trying to get across though....I don't know the ORIGINS of these things, but suspect it is human consciousness accessing realms I can't logically access. Religion is built into our brains, and the "Fall" is probably what you are meaning when you speak of the beginning of evil. Quite honestly, I was once asked during a past life regression, 'how many lives have you had? So how can I be sure where any of this comes from, including all of the conversations at Sally's playhouse? Posted by: judiGem on May 14, 2006 12:34 AMIt really is psychological. Way beyond bad men. And all about imagination and impulse. We even punish ourselves for thinking the thoughts we do, let alone act out these dangerous feelings. I think this is one of our biggest struggles, which both genders share. What to do with our natural impulses. We are taught shame from minute one, but that doesn't stop the generation of feelings. We are like infants all our lives trying to control our urges and keep them from hurting us. An impossible task, so it seems. They busrt out with such force that they end up hurting ourselves and many others around us. Self mastery, a Scorpio talent, is helpful, I think. Posted by: jm on May 14, 2006 12:35 AMJudi - check out this link in re history and folk medicine uses of stinging nettle for allergies and asthma. I hope you feel better soon -- there is nothing more debilitating than a stuffed up cranial and itchy eyeballs. Joanna, don't you love it? Chavez represents what we need to be going towards (hope it lasts, and he doesn't end of a younger CASTRO, a total dictatorship)....all the world's natural resources....shouldn't they ALL belong to the people? Whatta thought.... Posted by: judiGem on May 14, 2006 12:39 AMjm... the anglo supremacist fellas have had almost 5,000 years to learn something valuable about themslves & getting along with others in the sandbox & he's made it very clear he's not interested. He demands that everybody do what he demands on pain of torture & death. It's hard to "love" the "enchanted hero" when he holds a knife at one's throat imo. I, for one, am not interested... myth or no myth. Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 14, 2006 12:40 AMI agree Judi that religion is built in. There are too many identical experience across the planet with hallucinogens and spiritual practices. Maybe the evil is there as the sand in the oyster to get us to grow our little moral wings eventually. One person theorized that the ethnic aand racial diversity on the planet was there to teach us the lesson of brotherhood in time. How much time is anyone's guess. Posted by: jm on May 14, 2006 12:41 AMIf any of you have not done any reading on Catal Hyuk, an ancient (about 8000 years ago) matrifocal trading & healing center in the plains of Anatolia Turkey, you're in for a treat. It was a city that lasted 800 years... 4X as long as the US so far... it has no signs of violence or of a violent male-centered character. That's just for starters. Peoples have not always had to put up with violence... it's recent. Nor has it been a given that humans are "just naturally violent & ego-centered." Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 14, 2006 12:51 AMPhilo....actually, it isn't the itchy eyeball stuff this time or stuffiness (although the wind has now kicked up and that may come)...it is swollen neck glands from my body trying to ward it all off....and hyper adrenaline...my adrenals are in overdrive, and even my thyroid seems to be getting into the act. Actually, if felt like I switched from depression into mania...and I've always said I have some real subtle stuff going on which seems to me to be a form of manic/depression. But then, a person who acts as his own doctor has a fool for a client.... but that last eclipse was near my Mars 8 Aries, and this kicket up in late April.... Posted by: judiGem on May 14, 2006 12:54 AMBefore I forget -- I want to compliment Sally and Morganna for their exceptional writing skills -- Somehow, you ladies make it appear so simple to bridge the language of the gods to the political follies of these mere mortals pretending to be gods and masters of the universe. I was especially impressed with Sally's China Hu???? piece -- very profound insights can be gleaned in between the lines in this and the other pieces I have read on astroworld. You both are a credit to the craft of celestial dilineations with your timely contributions. I am honored to have made your acquaintance. Ph Posted by: Philomena on May 14, 2006 12:55 AMJoanna...whoo-eee...can't wait to get into that info, hope there is a little online....I didn't know of this, never heard of it....thanks so much.... I am going to a friend's apt near here....I have been feeding her feral cat colonies since she is down with a surgically replaced hip. I think all these 'girls' will enjoy this...Judi Posted by: judiGem on May 14, 2006 12:59 AMJoannaO -- In re Catak Hyuk - the Turkey Vulture (Golden Purifirer) is my life totem ! Turkey Vulture came to me personally -- a real one -- and once TV comes to you -- it become your guardian totem for life . And I will soon be gifted with several turkey vultures feathers from my sister/best friend who is a wiccan. I practice shamanism, exclusively -- but she has been a wiccan and herbalist for 20 years. Posted by: Philomena on May 14, 2006 01:02 AMShame in our society is taught by RELIGION. This was my point when I said above that it was the birth of evil in a religious sense. From day one we are saddled with the sins of Adam and Eve. The sin is drilled home to us by everyone and everything. And what is this sin? Knowledge. But not just any knowledge. It's the knowledge of SEX! Sex is the great satan and it's because men find women tempting that they hate women. It's all about the brainwashing we have been receiving for thousands of years. This is also the reason women feel shame. Patriarchy blames women for being tempting (not because they go out and temp, mind you, but because the temptation is ALL IN THE MINDS OF MEN! Mythology has none of that. None. There isn't a single mythological archetype that embodies shame. The Shadow side is not a substitute for shame. Shadow is the archetypal dark side which we would all be able to deal with quite well if it weren't for the sex issues that religion stuffs down our throats till we gag on it. The evil that religion beats us up with is not about our dark side. To religion sex is completely 100% evil, especially in the mind although they have to pretend they think it's OK if it's to procreate. No one said it makes sense. No one naturally feels shame for being sexual. That's like feeling shame for being blond or short or pretty or strong. The shame comes from outside of us and it is imposed on us. Shame is a very defective feeling because it isn't part of the human psyche till it's put there because it is man made. Posted by: Goldensilence on May 14, 2006 01:02 AMIt's perfectly understandable why humans, as a collective & individually, would show traumatic dreams, myths, splits & stories, for wherever anglo went, he brought his violence & subjegation. Having apparently developed from hominid in the extreme northern areas of the planet, he developed big bodies with light skin to take in as much sunlight (which he liked a lot) as possible... 'cause he didn't get much. He was an animal herder, eater & consumer of animal by-products such as milk... not much in the way of veggies. What started his numerous immigrations, apparently, was the onset of a severe long-lasting draught... & immigrate he did. The peaceful smaller darker peoples closer to the bright sun-lit equator (they liked the cool nights & its moon) had no mental/physical defense... such easy pickin's. That's what I've learned. Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 14, 2006 01:09 AMJudi -- try a lymph cleanse, first. I keep a full scale herbal pharmacopea and my sister/best friend is a master herbalist -- I am sure we can suggest some herbal formulas to help you. Your immune systems sounds a bit compromised -- most likely due to all the stress you have been under w/ the tax stuff. If you need assistance in choosing the right herbal blends from a health food store or herb shop in your area for relief you can email me at celestial_shamanka@yahoo.com. I share my medicine freely with all who need assistance. And when I say "matrifocal," I don't mean the opposite of "patriarchal"... that women carried a big stick to beat & main. These societies were egalitarian &... dare it be said?!?... peaceful. Folks could not develop science, art, agriculture etc and always be at war. Anglo boy has never bothered to develop creativity... that'd involve stopping, assessing, & going inward which he's so far refused to do. It's been far too easy for him to just grab the fruits of the enslaved Other's creativity &... copy them. Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 14, 2006 01:17 AMits because men find women powerful that men fear women. they dont hate them because they are tempting (?!) and all religions dont teach tht knowledge is sinful. and even in judo/christianity, knowledge of sex cant be sinful. God commanded that adam and eve should go forth and be fruitful. could we just get back to politcs and astrology. lots of important things are happening that have nothing to do with MYTHology . . . ;o) Posted by: on May 14, 2006 01:30 AMI would hope that anyone interested in some marvelous comprehensive thinking on the subject of her-story & his-story to read "The Great Cosmic Mother" by Monica Sjoo & Barbara Mor. It's very much still in print & is a wealth of highly-readable absolutely NON-boring, undiluted straight thinking, footnotes, & references. In fact, while reading, be sure to follow along with the footnotes. You'll be on your way with the straight goods, other reading material, & NEVER again under the thrall of the "authority" of patriarchal confusion & baloney. Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 14, 2006 01:35 AMAnd also "The Women's Encyclopedia of Myths & Secrets" by Barbara G. Walker... also very much still in print. Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 14, 2006 01:38 AMJoannaOregon, as you know, many times they do much more than copy. They usurp it and they steal it and claim sole ownership, even when it has never been owned before, like the land on this continent. And they continue to do it today. They want to own the water and the air and even the ether of the internet and the invisible radio waves. Haven't we all been noticingthe latest hot trend is towards an ownership society? Those who own the most die the happiest it seems. Posted by: Goldensilence on May 14, 2006 01:38 AMWOW- joyous trilling came up from deep. i've just been reading the recent post- Oh thank you Morgana, and to you as well Sally for providing us this home. What wonderful posts. i have so much enjoyed visitng this past hour. i wish i had a moment to join you all, perhpas later. WOW again, wonderful! Posted by: tseka on May 14, 2006 01:38 AMjudiGem - what I meant by being able to think more clearly is not being influenced by hormones. I also stayed strictly away from Hormone Replacement therapy, talk about "poison"! Joanna & Philomena - always felt the matriarchal systems worked much better too. We need to find our way back there as a collective. Maybe when the boys are done playing . . . . and if they leave us anything to work with! BTW - this has really been a wonderful message stream!! Posted by: Neith on May 14, 2006 01:45 AMYea, verily, Golden. ;O) More found on Hecate... “One of the oldest Greek versions of the Trinitarian Goddess, Hecaet was derived from the Egyptian midwife-goddess Heqit, Heket, or Hekat, who in turn evolved from the ‘heq’ or tribal matriarch of pre-dynastic Egypt: a wise-women, in command of all the ‘hekau’ or ‘mother’s Words of Power.’ “As a heavenly midwife amalgamating the Seven Hathors of the birth-chamber, Heqit delivered the sun god every morning. Her totem was the frog, symbol of the fetus; & this animal was still sacred to her 4000 yrs later when she became the xians’ ‘queen of witches.’ “In Greece, Hecate was one of many names for the original feminine trinity, ruling heaven, earth, & the underworld. Hellenes tended to emphasize her Crone or underworld aspect, but con’t to worship her at palces where 3 roads met, esp in rites of magic, divination, or consultation with the dead. Her images guarded 3-way crossroads for many centuries; thus she was Hecate Trevia, ‘Hecate of the Three Ways.’ Offerings were left at her roadside shrines on nights of the full moon. As a deity of magic & prophecy she was invoked by those who set out on journeys, like the biblical king of Babylon, who ‘stood at the parting of the way, at the head of the two ways, to use divination: he made his arrows bright, he consulted with images’ (Ezekiel 21:21). “Hecate was called ‘most lovely one,’ a title of the moon. Like all other forms of the Triple Goddess, she was associated with moon in all 3 of her aspects. Some said she was Hecate Selene, the Moon, in heaven; Artemis the Huntress on earth; & Persephone the Destroyer in the underworld. Ancient texts referred to her as Hecate Selene the Far-Shooting Moon, other of Dionysus—tho Dionysus was also the son of Persephone, which shows the Hecate & Persephone were often confused with one another. Sometimes Hecate was considered identical with Diana Ilithyia, the Moon-goddess as protectress of parturient women. Sometimes she was part of the Queen-of-Heaven trinity, Hebe the Virgin, Hera the Mother, Hecate the Crone. Porphyry wrote: The moon is Hecate, the symbol of her varying phases … [H]er power appears in three forms, having as symbol of the new moon the figure in the white robe & golden sandals, & torches lighted; the basket which she bears when she has mounted high is the symbol of the cultivation of the crops which she made to grow up according to the increase of her light.’ “Late Hellenic writers devised a rather labored explanation for Hecate’s journey from the sky to the underworld, originally a mythic metaphor for themoon’s setting. Hecate was in the house of a woman in childbirth. The gods, fearing magical contagion from this, plunged her into the river Acheron to wash away the traces of birth-mana. The river carried Hecate underground, where she married Hades. This was a myth derived from patriarchal anxieties about contact with childbearing women, demonstrated esp in the bible (Leviticus 12:5). Ritual bathing of mother & child in a sacred river after the lying-in period probably gave rise to the story of Hecate’s river-journey. “During the early Middle Ages, Hecate became known as Queen of the Ghostworld, or Queen of Witches. She was esp diabolized by catholic authorities who said the people most dangerous to the faith were precisely those whom Hecate patronized: the midwives. Her ancient 3-fold power was copied, however, by priestly writers who reassigned it to their own deity: “The 3-fold power of Christ, namely in Heaven, in earth, & in Hell.” Does anyone remember the discussion on "The Chalice and the Blade?" -- a work by Riane Eisler who traced the Goddess religions through Europe, Turkey, Crete (the Minoans), and established how these were peaceful, advanced, art-loving civiliations (especially the Minoans) who were overtaken by the warring marauders from the northern Steppes and the southern deserts --the Israelis -- with their iron blades and cruel, male-dominance approach. Later in history, a more feminine mindset was again expressed by Jesus of Nazereth and during the Renaissance but never successfully enough to replace the overemphasis of testosterone in the world. She feels that the successful integration of masculine and feminine is mankind's only hope. Well... & then one can read a wonderful piece by Richard Tarnus, philosopher & astrologer, about whom I've mentioned fairly recently, for his understanding that that shift is now occurring. I do hope he's right. He's a fine GreenMan... & not stupid like so many of his fellows. Here's a repost of the URL: http://www.well.com/user/davidu/tarnas.html Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 14, 2006 02:36 AMAnon said and this is of course the fact.... "its because men find women powerful that men fear women". It's way too simplistic to say that matriarchies are better than patriarchies. Both types succeed and fail. Anthropology proves this. It's not the gender, it's the power factor, the size of the population, the terrain, and many things like that. One of the most succesful is either Samoa, or the Trobriand Islands, I forget which, where the line is matriarchal but the brothers of the female raise the children. So uncles hold much of the power, but unheritance is passed through the women. UK astrologer Steve Judd 13.6 May More archived stuff. 21/10/03. No astrology tonight, just stories, stories…… I’ve witnessed cultural history today. Just returned from Trafalgar Square. The fountains weren't dyed red, as they were yesterday, but there was the biggest ever demonstration on a weekday in London. 200,000 on the march. Bush and Blair, look what you’ve done. Shame on you. Where’s Saddam, Osama and the WoMD? I hold you personally responsible for the havoc in Istanbul, Baghdad, and Palestine. You two idiots have created more terrorists in the last two years than everyone else in the last twenty. There was no trouble, I saw no arrests, and I didn’t even see a police person with raised eyebrows. Saw a few machine guns, though, which came as a wee bit of a shock, and a few clean cut figures with ear pieces loitering around Whitehall and Downing Street, apparently talking into thin air. The only trouble I saw was when a group of about twelve anti Bush Americans started arguing with about five pro Bush Americans, a little bit of jostling, but it was all handbags at dawn stuff. What was absolutely amazing was the diversity of the people in the square. Clean cut city gents, punks and anarchists, Indian grandmothers, Spanish students, Norwegian nurses and SO MANY schoolkids and pensioners– of the 100,000 crammed into the square only half were white, and maybe two thirds British. I listened to Ron Korvic (?) who immediately goes to number two on my favourite “prominent and alive” Americans list, close behind Michael Moore. I listened to representatives from every ethnic mix and political viewpoint. All stated the same thing – that the protest was not aimed at America, but at its current administration. And when the anti Bush Americans pulled down the statue, and then jumped on it, the square erupted. Hope I haven’t offended anyone except the corporate profiteering polluting morons who don’t have a clue about what people power can do. Here’s a few of the placards to leave you with. Small minds on big power trips are the very worst kinds of WoMD. Bush sucks – America doesn’t. George and Tony – I’ve got WoMD – chalk and attitude. (Trafalgar Square got covered in chalk graffiti – it washes off easily). Proud of my country – shamed by my President (lots of those). The only bush I trust is mine (female protester, aged about seventy). Bush, Blair – pull out now like your fathers should have done. (I liked that one). Finally, There’s never been a good war or a bad peace – Benjamin Franklin, eleventh September 1783. http://www.stevejudd.co.uk/ Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 14, 2006 03:41 AMI daresay those systems work great, jm... but none that you mentioned were anglo supremacist systems. They don't work. ;O) Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 14, 2006 03:46 AMSo even though we hope for some future of mankind that's better, good societies have thrived all along if we care to open our eyes and look around. Sometimes you have to search in nooks and crannies but the hope of mankind is already here. I think sometimes that a solution would be breaking up the groups into smaller more manageable numbers. I'm thinking that in the years ahead an increase in power of local government will help tremendously. Yea, verily, jm... I love the Sat farmer's market. There esp one will see lovely gentle dads of all "colors" with a baby pouched on their back, one in a stroller, & one stepping along beside. One fellow had the look of pure bliss on his face. But these are GreenMen... not supremacists. The pink supremacist male theocrats are very explicit about these GreenMen... give up their baby-tending & life-caring ways or be put to death. Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 14, 2006 04:40 AMHow rovian is this!?! One wonderful by-product perhaps of the exiting rove is a considerable decrease in lies coated with mega-porno-puritan sleeze. * Hugo Chavez's Ex-Mistress Says “He Is Imposing A Fascist Dictatorship”... http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2179460,00.html Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 14, 2006 06:53 AMCOUNT RUMSULA Malloy needs to be quoted at LEAST once a day outside of listening to his show. After hearing him make the above statement regarding that bloodsucking vampire Rumsfeld, I nearly fell outta bed laughing. But it's not funny. Donald Rumsfeld IS evil. You can see it when he smiles. The smile never reaches his eyes. Next time you catch him making some senseless, babbling speech on C-Span, test my theory. The smile.. never.. reaches.. his.. eyes. It stops dead at his mouth, as if there is some steel barrier between his facial expressions and his soul. I'm sure there is. It's called EVIL. (This "smile" theory can be tested on serial killers and plain old street level psychos also. Works every time. Dead giveaway that you're dealing with a sociopath.) Rumsfeld is a 700 year old bloodsucking freak. And the only way to rid the world of a vampire is to drive a stake through it's black heart. Any takers? I'll help fashion the stakes. Only problem, we don't know where the bloodsuckers coffin is stored. My best guess is somewhere at Faux News headquarters. But entering that den of vileness and filth is simply too terrifying, even for the bravest vampire hunter. http://comearmageddon.blogspot.com/ Posted by: on May 14, 2006 06:54 AMHappy Mother's day all you mothers. And to the brand new one in Sally's family. Posted by: jm on May 14, 2006 10:15 AMIf wishes were horses... President Al Gore HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY! Posted by: Pat C on May 14, 2006 02:32 PMAs i was reading it struck me that the same myths are in finno-scandia; the circumpolar peoples, including the Salish (Native american on NW coast) of my cradle. And i thought how like a rose this is, the flower fell apart long ago, the wind carried it's petals to distant places, the petals can never become the blossom again, but we have the fragrance. We inhale the sweetness of our ancient selves never lost just forgotten for a moment. Perhaps the fragrance is even more important than the flower? As we may all breath of its essence. From all the wonder Full comments and insights posted on Hecate -- I think it would be appropriate to wish her happy Great Mother's Day -- and amongst ourselves -- from here on out honor Mother's day as "the Great Mother Hecate Day"! Happy Great Mother Hecate Day to all mothers today! 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(Ohps... sorry for the relentless politics 1st thing) By all means... Merry Crone Mother's Day in all Her Names. ;O) Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 14, 2006 04:44 PM...to ALL women everywhere, as, whether we have our own children or not, we all are caretakers and givers in some capacity, whether to our children, the children of others, orphans, parents, the elderly, the infirm, family members, friends, pets, and all living creatures everywhere (even insects) to whom we reach out in love and empathy. Posted by: on May 14, 2006 04:52 PM19 May ~namnsdag Elri, (Elder tree) The portal between worlds is located under the Elder tree the alfri; lightbeings (~aka faery) gate to the underworld. The Elris are the Tree Women(Elder, Alders, Birch and others who loose their leaves and bear fruit), the light bearers who keep the pulse of time through the dark days. The Salish say that in the time before time they were married to Raven. Interesting that the Da Vinci code will open this day. Interesting too that this date, May 19, was the one the Catholic church chose to sign into being the codes which began the inquisition,the holocaust of wise women so long ago. A powergate. Another form of the El (light) as she embodied her power in the British Isles. Speaking of Mother's, aren't the Goldstar Mother's marching in Washington in front of the White House, Cindy Sheehan, Susan Sarandon?! No media coverage as usual. Tomorrow should be really really interesting if Jason Leopold's piece is to be believed, Rove's twenty-four hours would be up. btw www.cnn.com/lateedition has a poll on wire tapping. Re: Al Gore.... oh I wish I wish I wish.
JoannaOregon, Oh yaz'm, Jill... that I have. ;O) I came across by "accident" The Great Cosmic Mother, which sent me on all the research paths into the Old Religion, particuarly archeological, when pluto was transiting conj my n. jupiter in scorpio. How's THAT set-up for a digger of truth! ;O) I'm even lucky enuf to have a video with lectures by the spiritually beautiful Gimbutas. Talk about a Great Crone! Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 14, 2006 06:43 PMTseka...that is just such a beutiful thing you wrote on the frangrence of the rose.... Posted by: judiGem on May 14, 2006 06:47 PMAnd naturally, the sun--birther of Life & warmth--would be seen as Goddess, Great Mother. Well... & then the cooptation by patriarchal "religions" & monsterizing of Her. It seems the Japanese held onto the Sun as goddess the longest & most recent. Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 14, 2006 06:48 PMJoanna, you posted the Catal Huyuk thing right after I posted about the ancient pre writing post on martriarchal societies...we certainly must be trudging along in lockstep... Years ago (1991) I started chanelling an entity ("I am she who is a visitor from the velocity of light, from the kingdom of God, I am Michaela") What I got early on was that thousands of years previously I had been a survivor of the volcano in the mediterranean which killed almost everyone, and those left spread to the shores of the eastern mediterranean....we were pre writing...or at least in that society....and I was one of the 'rememberers'....we gave oral history of our people....I always have that feel of 'ancientness' running thru the site.... ooops...'frangrence'.....kind of like fragrance and franti pangi I guess.... Posted by: judiGem on May 14, 2006 06:51 PMAnd I am so 'frantic' I wrote 'franti' instead of 'frangi' my adrenal overload continues.... Posted by: judiGem on May 14, 2006 06:51 PMJoanna and Jill yes indeed, and for me it was enhanced by Pluto when it transited my natal 8th house Venus in Scorpio. Morgana, i'm on tenterhooks waiting, i'm working today and keep opening up my box, checking to see if they might slip Rove through the backdoor of Sunday afternoon. What a Mother's day gift that would be! Posted by: tseka on May 14, 2006 06:53 PMJudi - Precisely where the term "mother tongue" is derived from...pre-writing - SCRIBE days when the natural and cosmic laws were handed down orally -- from the mother's tongue -- and the beginning of *words & symbols* -- the precusor to writing the language in text. Posted by: Philomena on May 14, 2006 06:58 PMJoanna in scandinavia Sun is feminine. Sea is masculine. Women were the landowners, a very different role. Similarly many of the Native NW Coast indians had matrilineal lineage. The shift to masculine domiination is very recent in some of the polar cultures. Posted by: tseka on May 14, 2006 07:01 PMDid anyone take note that Rove's Moon is 13 Cancer -- conjunct Bush's Sun w/ Uranus now trining both their luminaries? Methinks Rove handed over Cheney's head on a silver platter to Fritzgerald for the reasons I gave on the posts for Nov. 1st ,2005 (written a day or two after Fritz announced Libby's indictments -- and concluded that a 2nd grand jury would be necessary to finish the work of the 1st GJ as well as review new documents finally released by the WH (that had been with held or claimed lost in the WH's computer system). Don't forget -- Bob Woodward figures in all this somehow, too. Posted by: Philomena on May 14, 2006 07:05 PMIn Rover's chart -- Saturn in Leo is transiting his 9th house (if the 4:14 am TOB is accurate) -- The Saturn transit will soon make an opposition to his Mars 7 Aq. 54 positioned in his 3rd house -- He will probably be given until the end of May -- before he is forced to resign from the WH staff -- as this is exactly when Saturn goes into the 7th degree of Leo and partile opposes his Natal Mars in Aquarius. The first of this week (May 14th thru to the 18th) - transiting Mars in Cancer will separate from the Tsquare to his Venus - Mercury conjunction btw 13 thru 18 degrees of Capricorn -- and then will partile square his natal and progressed Neptune @ 19 - 20 Libra. Also, transiting Mercury in 16 Taurus will start applying to square T Neptune 19 Aquarius -- linking Rover's Pluto in Leo in the 9 ninth house -- and this is when the public will hear the full criminal indictment -- on Monday -- when the Moon in Sag conjuncts Pluto - with either a late Monday news conference or early Tuesday. How confident do you all feel about Rove's time of birth being accurate -- as this is the first time I have used this time for making specific predictions? I had a gut feeling that there was a synastry link between Bush and Rove to Bush's Sun or Saturn in Cancer -- and this TOB bears this out -- and in the 8th house no less -- I am sure Bush rock's Rove's sexual fatansy work -- and that he is secretly in love with him -- in a perverse *mother - son - politically incestous* way. As if he were the "queen" in their psycho - sexual dynamics. With Rove playing the part of the 'power behind the throne' --savior -- covering up for Bush's treasonous criminal cabal. But like all "mother figures" -- they will protect their son under any circumstances -- even after they have witnessed their son committing mass murder. meant to say; "I am sure Bush rocks Rove's fantasy world"... pardon the typo glitches -- I was looking at his chart while typing -- and have never been one to see my editorical mistypes when rereading. Posted by: Philomena on May 14, 2006 07:34 PM"...Women were the landowners..." Yea, tseka... they birthed & raised the children; therefore, needed the resources to do so. That was taken away from them by violence, too. Good point, Philomena... but it's rover-loveboy going to jail... at least one hopes. And it'll be nice when drunkie cheney joins him there... at least one hopes... & bushaholic. Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 14, 2006 07:38 PMWe'll have to watch for the next series of eclipses -- btw now and end of 2007 to determine if this nest of vipers will finally be criminally tried and setenced. And for that to successfully conclude -- Bush will have to be impeached -- otherwise, he will merely pardon everyone during his last days in office. The danger is this -- this criminal gang of war criminals might have something up their sleeves -- the likes of another false flag attack on US soil -- wherein they suspend the constitution -- declare martial law -- and Bush stays in office until he croaks on his own vomit. Posted by: Philomena on May 14, 2006 07:45 PM* At Last, a Scandal We Can Enjoy! Hookergate By Dr SUSAN BLOCK http://counterpunch.com/block05132006.html Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 14, 2006 08:04 PMI was thinking early this morning how nutty it is to call mars the planet of war. Talk about a mega-projection! Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 14, 2006 08:06 PMSmall blurb and pic of the Gold Star Mother's in front of the White House flag draped coffins and all. Posted by: Morgana on May 14, 2006 08:27 PM
Will the Real Traitors Please Stand Up? By FRANK RICH This history is predictably repeating itself now that the public has turned on the war in Iraq. The administration's die-hard defenders are desperate to deflect blame for the fiasco, and, guess what, the traitors once again are The Times and The Post. This time the newspapers committed the crime of exposing warrantless spying on Americans by the National Security Agency (The Times) and the C.I.A.'s secret "black site" Eastern European prisons (The Post). Aping the Nixon template, the current White House tried to stop both papers from publishing and when that failed impugned their patriotism. President Bush, himself a sometime leaker of intelligence, called the leaking of the N.S.A. surveillance program a "shameful act" that is "helping the enemy." Porter Goss, who was then still C.I.A. director, piled on in February with a Times Op-Ed piece denouncing leakers for potentially risking American lives and compromising national security. When reporters at both papers were awarded Pulitzer Prizes last month, administration surrogates, led by bloviator in chief William Bennett, called for them to be charged under the 1917 Espionage Act. We can see this charade for what it is: a Hail Mary pass by the leaders who bungled a war and want to change the subject to the journalists who caught them in the act. What really angers the White House and its defenders about both the Post and Times scoops are not the legal questions the stories raise about unregulated gulags and unconstitutional domestic snooping, but the unmasking of yet more administration failures in a war effort riddled with ineptitude. It's the recklessness at the top of our government, not the press's exposure of it, that has truly aided the enemy, put American lives at risk and potentially sabotaged national security. That's where the buck stops, and if there's to be a witch hunt for traitors, that's where it should begin. Well before Dana Priest of The Post uncovered the secret prisons last November, the C.I.A. had failed to keep its detention "secrets" secret. Having obtained flight logs, The Sunday Times of London first reported in November 2004 that the United States was flying detainees "to countries that routinely use torture." Six months later, The New York Times added many details, noting that "plane-spotting hobbyists, activists and journalists in a dozen countries have tracked the mysterious planes' movements." These articles, capped by Ms. Priest's, do not impede our ability to detain terrorists. But they do show how the administration, by condoning torture, has surrendered the moral high ground to anti-American jihadists and botched the war of ideas that we can't afford to lose. The N.S.A. eavesdropping exposed in December by James Risen and Eric Lichtblau of The Times is another American debacle. Hoping to suggest otherwise and cast the paper as treasonous, Dick Cheney immediately claimed that the program had saved "thousands of lives." The White House's journalistic mouthpiece, the Wall Street Journal editorial page, wrote that the Times exposé "may have ruined one of our most effective anti-Al Qaeda surveillance programs." Surely they jest. If this is one of our "most effective" programs, we're in worse trouble than we thought. Our enemy is smart enough to figure out on its own that its phone calls are monitored 24/7, since even under existing law the government can eavesdrop for 72 hours before seeking a warrant (which is almost always granted). As The Times subsequently reported, the N.S.A. program was worse than ineffective; it was counterproductive. Its gusher of data wasted F.B.I. time and manpower on wild-goose chases and minor leads while uncovering no new active Qaeda plots in the United States. Like the N.S.A. database on 200 million American phone customers that was described last week by USA Today, this program may have more to do with monitoring "traitors" like reporters and leakers than with tracking terrorists. Journalists and whistle-blowers who relay such government blunders are easily defended against the charge of treason. It's often those who make the accusations we should be most worried about. Mr. Goss, a particularly vivid example, should not escape into retirement unexamined. He was so inept that an overzealous witch hunter might mistake him for a Qaeda double agent. Even before he went to the C.I.A., he was a drag on national security. In "Breakdown," a book about intelligence failures before the 9/11 attacks, the conservative journalist Bill Gertz delineates how Mr. Goss, then chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, played a major role in abdicating Congressional oversight of the C.I.A., trying to cover up its poor performance while terrorists plotted with impunity. After 9/11, his committee's "investigation" of what went wrong was notoriously toothless. Once he ascended to the C.I.A. in 2004, Mr. Goss behaved like most other Bush appointees: he put politics ahead of the national interest, and stashed cronies and partisan hacks in crucial positions. On Friday, the F.B.I. searched the home and office of one of them, Dusty Foggo, the No. 3 agency official in the Goss regime. Mr. Foggo is being investigated by four federal agencies pursuing the bribery scandal that has already landed former Congressman Randy (Duke) Cunningham in jail. Though Washington is titillated by gossip about prostitutes and Watergate "poker parties" swirling around this Warren Harding-like tale, at least the grafters of Teapot Dome didn't play games with the nation's defense during wartime. Besides driving out career employees, underperforming on Iran intelligence and scaling back a daily cross-agency meeting on terrorism, Mr. Goss's only other apparent accomplishment at the C.I.A. was his war on those traitorous leakers. Intriguingly, this was a new cause for him. "There's a leak every day in the paper," he told The Sarasota Herald-Tribune when the identity of the officer Valerie Wilson was exposed in 2003. He argued then that there was no point in tracking leaks down because "that's all we'd do." What prompted Mr. Goss's about-face was revealed in his early memo instructing C.I.A. employees to "support the administration and its policies in our work." His mission was not to protect our country but to prevent the airing of administration dirty laundry, including leaks detailing how the White House ignored accurate C.I.A. intelligence on Iraq before the war. On his watch, C.I.A. lawyers also tried to halt publication of "Jawbreaker," the former clandestine officer Gary Berntsen's account of how the American command let Osama bin Laden escape when Mr. Berntsen's team had him trapped in Tora Bora in December 2001. The one officer fired for alleged leaking during the Goss purge had no access to classified intelligence about secret prisons but was presumably a witness to her boss's management disasters. Soon to come are the Senate's hearings on Mr. Goss's successor, Gen. Michael Hayden, the former head of the N.S.A. As Jon Stewart reminded us last week, Mr. Bush endorsed his new C.I.A. choice with the same encomium he had bestowed on Mr. Goss: He's "the right man" to lead the C.I.A. "at this critical moment in our nation's history." That's not exactly reassuring. This being an election year, Karl Rove hopes the hearings can portray Bush opponents as soft on terrorism when they question any national security move. It was this bullying that led so many Democrats to rubber-stamp the Iraq war resolution in the 2002 election season and Mr. Goss's appointment in the autumn of 2004. Will they fall into the same trap in 2006? Will they be so busy soliloquizing about civil liberties that they'll fail to investigate the nominee's record? It was under General Hayden, a self-styled electronic surveillance whiz, that the N.S.A. intercepted actual Qaeda messages on Sept. 10, 2001 — "Tomorrow is zero hour" for one — and failed to translate them until Sept. 12. That same fateful summer, General Hayden's N.S.A. also failed to recognize that "some of the terrorists had set up shop literally under its nose," as the national-security authority James Bamford wrote in The Washington Post in 2002. The Qaeda cell that hijacked American Flight 77 and plowed into the Pentagon was based in the same town, Laurel, Md., as the N.S.A., and "for months, the terrorists and the N.S.A. employees exercised in some of the same local health clubs and shopped in the same grocery stores." If Democrats — and, for that matter, Republicans — let a president with a Nixonesque approval rating install yet another second-rate sycophant at yet another security agency, even one as diminished as the C.I.A., someone should charge those senators with treason, too. Copyright 2006 The New York Times Company Posted by: wv on May 14, 2006 08:31 PMPhilomena, Have you been to Nancy Waterman's blog? She just put up an article about Rove. I'm always amazed at how accurate her predictions are. If you haven't been there before click on the pink link that says 'Nancy's Blog' Posted by: Goldensilence on May 14, 2006 08:46 PMPhilo, I've always thought Rove was in love with Bush. I think of it as a grammar school crush that's all Neptune. I think Alberto Gonzales is in love with him too. By 'in love' I mean that out of your head over heals bonkers crap for brains lightning strike that makes zero sense. The kind that when it's over you slap yourself hard wondering what ever were you thinking. I also think Bush's women are totally infatuated with him. Not always as if they were his mothers, but in the love is blind way (also Neptunian delusion). And they devote themselves to him in ways his own mother never did. Condi, Karen Hughes, Laura, Harriet Miers, etc. It's as if they just hand over their lives to him. They literally go to the ends of the earth for him, into enemy territory in their deluded attempts to make him popular and godly. I'm as convinced as I can be that they are all together in this life as they have been in many many lives, and working for the same ends in all of them. Gosh, Goldensilence, I think you are right. And I'm so glad for all those immune to Bush's twisted charm. Posted by: Barbara on May 14, 2006 09:45 PMGood point Joanna about Mars, did you happen to see this "Whole Mars Review" posted over on Eric Francis' site? Good insight i thought and things to ponder on the Mars retro. Philomena, i would so love the indictment of Rove to occur as moon moves past Pluto into the Galactic Center. It would give me hope that even the cosmos is ready to dump these boys.... Posted by: tseka on May 14, 2006 09:46 PMGolden -- As in the reign of Emperor "Gaius Caligula"? A must read about the voting machines! http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_denis_wr_060512_the_money_pit_3a_diebo.htm Posted by: Pat C on May 14, 2006 09:52 PMThe current discussion reminds me of a book, "Another Mother Tongue" by Judy Grahn. It delves into the history (and herstory!) of words that are related to gender, gender roles, sexuality, and especially focuses on the historical roles played by gay and lesbian and transgendered people in various cultures. I highly recommend it if you are searching for clues to humankind's history. A bit about her: It all came to me about Rove today, and why I believe Bush came to destroy his father. Leo rising has a Cancer 12th house and an ancient karmic memory of family deeds, the Moon and her darkness, coldness, and the subconscious. The ball and chain of the family. Leo wants the warmth and the light of day. This could be why they crave the spotlight. I've often seen Saturn in Cancer as an individual who feels they got the wrong family and are heavily burdened by some unnamed agony. They often feel adopted or always under the threat of abandonment. Now, Karl Rove....Sun in Capricorn, Moon in Cancer. He is part of the father/family karma, and down he goes. I think Bush will go all the way. Part of why he seems to be unbothered by his sinking into the depths, as the polls indicate. That's where his job really is. So in truth, Bush hates Rove. The curve in it all is Laura. She is probably the most dangerous one with her Saturn/Pluto on the 4th in Leo, Scorpio Sun. Not at all what a Leo rising wants with an Aquarian 7th. His Uranus in Gemini in the 11th. I knew she would emerge with this lunation and she has. She is very very dangerous largely because of the facade that so many believe. Last year at the press Club dinner she humiliated her husband totally. She "accidentally" killed her first fiance in a car wreck, and I think she is on her way to killing her current husband. So much for loving Laura. Posted by: jm on May 14, 2006 10:00 PMtseka, the cosmos is exactly ready to dump these boys. The question is, are we? Can we close the curtain on this exciting drama and run the risk of a dry maybe less entertaining play next? Pluto in Sag is a joy ride, Saturn, Pluto, Cap...well you decide. Posted by: jm on May 14, 2006 10:06 PMCorrection to story on Karl Rove's indictment. William Pitt Sun May-14-06 02:42 PM "I just got off the phone with Jason Leopold who clarified something for me that is pretty damned important. In his article, he said: "During the course of that meeting, Fitzgerald served attorneys for former Deputy White House Chief of Staff Karl Rove with an indictment charging the embattled White House official with perjury and lying to investigators related to his role in the CIA leak case, and instructed one of the attorneys to tell Rove that he has 24 hours to get his affairs in order, high level sources with direct knowledge of the meeting said Saturday morning." In point of fact, those 24 hours are "business hours," i.e. starting on Monday. "Jeez, Jason," I said, "we might want to put that into the essay. Half the planet thought 24 hours was 24 hours. They thought the deal would go down today." To be fair, a dozen eyes looked at that article yesterday before we published it, mine included, and none of us caught that. The word "business" has been inserted into the story after "hours" where it belongs: BREAKING: Karl Rove Indicted - Perjury! So. Monday at the very earliest, but more like Tuesday or Wednesday. I'm going to go take a nap and then go get drunk with some friends tonight. Dan's brother Ken, the airline pilot and all-around wild-man, is in town for the weekend. Gonna be the Linwood Cafe, and their Mojo from the nitrogen tap, and then around again to our usual gathering spot. I'd repeat everything I've said about Jason's multiple independent sources, about how the MSMs failure to pick this up sounds more like more of the same old shit than anything ominous, about how no hard paper or announcements or anything will come until, at a minimum, the government re-opens for business on Monday...but I've written it all already. The truth will out. It always does. Later, gators." (See link: Will followed up with another note)http://mparent7777.livejournal.com/8545267.html Also Wayne Madsen suggests the indictments are coming. http://www.tpmcafe.com/node/29843 May 14, 2006 -- 03:45:16 PM EST Posted by: Philomena on May 14, 2006 10:08 PMI certainly have enjoyed this time period, from dark to light. Mythology has always been one of my favorite subjects. And the contributions were inspired by another thought provoking article Morgana,.............. Here is another bad sign that things are going wrong..... A popular children's book author said she was dropped as a speaker for an international reading conference this month in Chicago over her criticism of the federal No Child Left Behind Act. http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-banned13.html and her web site; My lawyers and I have set a formal request to SRA/McGraw Hill through their representative, The Buchanan Associates in Dublin, Ohio, to post the following signs outside of each venue at the conference where I am schedules to speak. "DUE TO PHILOSOPHICAL DIFFERENCES BETWEEN SRA/McGRAW HILL AND PATRICIA POLACCO, SRA/McGRAW HILL HAS CHOSEN TO CANCEL ALL OF PATRICIA POLACCO'S APPEARANCES AT THIS EVENT" I spent consierable time studying her books last summer, an they are delightful! Just the kind of values children should be wexpose to and wonderful drawings as well. PQ The longing for Al Gore is understandable in the face of this black emptiness in leadership, but I think this is good, and we shouldn't rush in to fill it quite yet. The mystery of our next president is a good one. This lunation did a good job of destroying and flushing out and Saturn opposite Neptune coming up should do equally as well crystallizing and letting illusions dissolve. Al gore is finding his greatest success now fighting environmantal destruction with his Aries self. Are you sure you would want this aborted and have him trapped in the Presidency, kissing babies and world leaders' asses? One of my theories is that transgendered people, if there are past lives, are incarnated in this life coming from one gender to the other. Maybe they serve to bridge the huge chasm between the sexes. Posted by: jm on May 14, 2006 10:55 PMjm, I agree. I heard President Carter say he would never run for any office again because he is now able to make much more of a difference in the world. I think Gore is finding that to be true. And I think he's loving the freedom he has now. He would make an outstanding President, but he would have to fight the Republicans and the MSM at every turn. Besides, I think the government has gotten too corrupt in general and will probably soon be irrelevant. We're watching it crumbling now. The States may become much more autonomous and self-sufficient and powerful (or more corrupt, depending on who is in charge) Posted by: Goldensilence on May 14, 2006 11:01 PMDid anyone see the Al Gore bit on SNL last night that was posted above(at Crooks & Liars)? Fantasy sure, but a great one.... And now, another post to read with the prescribed grains of salt...but if true, does explain the CIA goings-on...also notice that this author attributes the current Dem silence and backdowns(on impeachment, etc.) to Rover's blackmail... http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=4505 Posted by: Garry on May 14, 2006 11:11 PMIn re: Jesus_Q: Friday, May 12, 2006 THE REAL TRUTH OF OUR WORLD I... I recently received this urgent letter from the most loving scientist on Mother Earth. So I suggest that ALL of you pay VERY careful attention to what it says, RIGHT NOW. Dear Everyone In The Multiuniverses Everywhere... I am a scientist on Mother Earth who runs an underground scientific and social news information resource...and right now, it is very extremely urgent that you pay careful attention to these words as of this moment in time. It seems we have a much bigger problem with the Iraq Wars than we originally thought. You see, the U.S. Military has been using "depleted uranium" weapons in all of its wars since 1991. And now, because of this single issue...by all known verifiable accounts, we now know that at least 400,000 atomic bombs worth of radiation has been spread into the entire Earth's atmosphere in the form of microscopic-to-dust-sized uranium and uranium oxide particles. These are the known issues we all face because of this, right now: Iraq is now fully contaminated with radiation, because of all of this atrocity. The people over there are dying, and their children are being born mutated. This is a fact that can be verified independently, if you so choose to do so. Most of the soliders coming back from these wars have been contaminated with uranium radiation contamination, and they've been spreading it to others through sexual transmission. This is now causing a "spiderweb" contamination effect throughout the whole world. Thus, countless millions of innocent men, women and children are becoming contaminated by radiation entirely without their understanding each and every single day, which is now spreading across the entire Earth like a wildfire out of control. Again, these are facts that can be verified independently through the various medical accounts that have been already published on this subject. The continuing spread of this radiation has been verifiably tracked within our entire atmosphere. It has been noted by concerned scientists in the U.K. and in many other locations throughout the entire world. This means that our entire globe has thus been contaminated in this manner, and it is getting worse with every single day...because now it rains down on all of us via the global winds. You, me, our children, our families, all the animals, all the plants. On everything that we hold most dear in our hearts, because it is all that which gives us life itself. And it is all destined to die if nothing is done immediately. Once again, these are FACTS that can be verified independently by anyone who does some research on the internet. 400,000 atomic bombs worth of radiation in the biosphere is enough to contaminate the entire planet for 4.5 BILLION YEARS. We cannot survive in that kind of hell. It is impossible. All of the scientific projections are horrifyingly terminal for the entire integrated system of life that is this entire planet of Mother Earth, because of it. These are the FACTS, and we ALL need to deal with it...now. Because basically, we're all dying. I flatly project that all of this is enough to extinct all of mankind and most of the surface life on this planet within 2 generations. It kills everything on Earth, eventually. This is why it MUST be stopped. All of the U.S. presidential administrations since 1991 have just extincted the entire human race, including themselves....unless we stop ALL the wars IMMEDIATELY and TRY to fix these problems IMMEDIATELY. We have an international disaster on our hands...but no one is talking about it openly on the television. The North American media is heavily censored against mentioning anything in opposition to this present U.S. administration...but in doing so, they have all collectively attempted to kill all of us with their own terminal and self-destructive stupidity. Is this an insane world? Apparently. So there is no time left to lose. NONE. It all needs to STOP and NOW. I actually have real solutions to all of this, but I cannot even hope to begin implementing them without some urgent help from people who care about the future of our entire Earth, and about all the life that exists on this planet. Mr. Stephen Colbert and Mr. Jon Stewart appear to be our last hope in this matter of public communication to the public masses with respect to this global tragedy. They are incredibly intelligent, they are as sharp as nails, and they have the guts to speak their minds whenever they feel like it. I am hoping they hear my urgent words, and soon. I pray they will act upon them. They need to have the faith that the world will listen to what they have to say, and they will need your support. They need to hear this message, and communicate it to the entire planet so we can fix these problems together in mutual harmony and peace. They will need your support, they will need you to tell them my message as soon as possible. I have also noted that there are several hardworking journalists out there who are striving to tell the real truth of our world to the people of Earth. All of them have the best consciences I've ever seen, and the people of planet Earth now need to hear what they have to say. All of it. There can be no more delays. Our very existence now depends upon it. These are the star reporters of the world that all of you need to listen to right now: Stephen Colbert... He actually has the balls to state what our real problems are on a live broadcast. And right now, he needs to talk about THIS issue, and get the job DONE. And it needs to be done IMMEDIATELY, if not SOONER. This man is the best. He always KNOWS the TRUTH for WHAT IT IS. Jon Stewart... He has the most gentle heart I've ever seen in a television news reporter. He is the only one who started to talk about the real issues of our world on television in his usual tactful and humorous manner, in time enough for it to matter. God bless him. We need him to be at his best. This is the man who SHOULD have been President of the United States. Alex Jones... This is the man who knows everything there is to know about world corruption, and the reasons WHY it all happened. His forthright and straightforward manner demands the highest possible respect. He is the man with answers and directions to answers. Michael Rivero... This is the man who has tracked every single critical report the world has ever reported for the past 13 years. The man has highly detailed information regarding all global events, and you need to pay careful attention to what he is saying to you right now. Jeff Rense... This man has dedicated his life to exploring the highly unusual phenomena of our world. His website is a goldmine of needed information at this moment in time. I suggest that all of you mine it for every single item you can find, so that we can collectively deal with everything that is to come. I am hoping that all of you can help me save our entire world from self-destruction. My research will save the Earth. And I really don't give a damn about any kind of "profit" at all in due process...this is because I care about the people of this planet, and their future. All of us. And it seems I have the necessary answers that the human race needs right now. Therefore, I declare myself to be The Primary Defender of Mother Earth. So if someone who has any true influence in the human race decides they really need my help after all, they can find me eventually via the materials on my website "Welcome Back To Reality News". I must sincerely apologize for not revealing precisely who I am at this time...but due to the very sensitive nature of my various works, I must leave this task to those who truly care to find out who I am for themselves. They can certainly find me if they really need to do it, this much I can say to you at this present time. The website with the applicable research is here: http://p081.ezboard.com/baxisandalliesessayfeedback I NOW CALL UPON ALL OF THE PEOPLE OF THE ENTIRE PLANET EARTH TO PAY CAREFUL ATTENTION TO THE HIGHEST PRIORITY INFORMATION RESOURCES, AND IMMEDIATELY ACT UPON ALL THE THINGS THESE PEOPLE ARE SAYING, FOR THERE IS REALLY NO TIME LEFT TO LOSE. The Hardest Hitting Truth-Telling Television News Shows: The Colbert Report The Daily Show With Jon Stewart The Best Resource Websites With Urgent News Information For All: http://whatreallyhappened.com Political/Social Video Resources: http://www.heartbone.com/various/RedPillVideos.html Additional Perspectives On Our Current Reality: http://hermes-press.com "Quick Copy/Paste" Contacts and Resources: mediaonly@infowars.com, Who These People Are, In Order: Mr. Alex Jones - Leading Multimedia Journalist Mr. Michael Rivero - Leading Blog Journalist Mr. Jeff Rense - Leading Radio Journalist Mr. Stephen Harper - Prime Minister of Canada Dr. Norman Livergood - Social and Metaphysical Scientist Professor Stephen Hawking - Leading Physicist On Earth Dr. Michael E. Salla - Exopolitics Institute Mr. Sheldan Nidle - Planetary Activation Organization I now beg the people of Earth and the multiuniverses for their most urgent assistance in these most urgent matters. I now leave it to your conscience to decide what is the right thing to do. I truly need your help, as does all of your family and all of your friends throughout the entire world. And God will certainly help all of us if you do, especially if you truly believe in The Truth itself. Good Luck To You... Yours In Truth, Love, And Hope... The Editor I... I Am Who I Am Q
Ah yes indeed! It is the sounds of the echoes in the multiuniverses that always call me back into being. Oh yeah...the sound of groovin rock sure enables this scene. Peace is the watchword. Love is the key. If you follow the Q, perhaps we will Harmony. Who is the Eternal Question? The Answer is always 42. Follow my lead, my children. For time itself obeys me. Onward to the future! Full of magic and mystery!
http://blog.myspace.com/jesus_q jm: In times past, some Native American tribes and communities considered the two-spirit people (i.e., what we now call GLBT) to be mediators between men and women. It was considered sacred and holy to be a two-spirit, until the missionaries arrived. Likewise, the Celts supposedly considered "in-between" places and times sacred, such as bogs and shorelines (neither land nor water), and dusk and dawn (neither day nor night). I haven't yet run across any mention of transgenderism among the Celts. Would be interesting to find out! :o) Posted by: Joe on May 14, 2006 11:16 PMhttp://www.creators.com/opinion_show.cfm?columnsName=miv DEVELOPMENTS IN JOURNALISM'S INTERNET FRONTIER AUSTIN, Texas -- As I occasionally survey the pack of sycophantic shih tzus* in the Washington press corps, wriggling on their bellies to kiss the feet of those in power, I feel plumb discouraged about the future of journalism. It's like a cross between Versailles under Louis XIV and high school: obsequious courtiers flattering their way to favor, plus the silly cliques of the "in crowd" and "out crowd." On the other hand, I am greatly cheered by the young journalists in the blogosphere who have now whelped a perfect litter of books worth paying attention to. For my marbles and chalk, the pick is David Sirota's "Hostile Takeover: How Big Money and Corruption Conquered Our Government -- and How We Take It Back." Sirota is a new-generation populist who instinctively understands that the only real questions are "Who's getting screwed" and "Who's doing the screwing?" The extent to which corporate power has taken over the country and is running the table cannot be exaggerated and must not be ignored. Sirota has not only collected much new and useful information, he has put it into a package that provides handy weapons to fight back. Si, se puede. Eric Boehlert, who writes for the online magazine Salon, has taken on the MSM (mainstream media) and dipped it for ticks in his book, "Lapdogs: How the Press Rolled Over for Bush." He recounts some breathtaking journalistic malfeasance -- ignoring the Downing Street memos, the Valerie Plame case and many others. As usual, sins of omission dominate. The Washington press corps (which I think should be separated from "normal" parts of the press) is breathtakingly craven. In the face of intimidation and the lure of official approval, it has shown neither courage nor enterprise. More.... Posted by: Pat C on May 14, 2006 11:27 PMJoe, where did you come from? This is wonderful information. Just wonderful. Thank you so much. I bet the problem in our society is that we denigrate them and are missing their purpose. Our loss. And I know for sure in my protoplasm that in between is the fullest most rewarding place. So much so that I am awake every day for both the sunset and the sunrise. Wouldn't miss them for all the gold in....China? Thanks again, Joe. Looking forward to what else you offer. Posted by: jm on May 14, 2006 11:33 PMTWO_SPIRIT PEOPLE ASCENDED TO THE ROLE OF A SHAMAN IN MANY TRIBES -- ALSO, IN MANY TRADITIONS --TRAINING TO BE A SHAMAN SOMETIMES REQUIRED THE APPRENTICE TO SPEND SEVERAL YEARS LIVING AS THE OPPOSITE SEX -- POINT BEING -- TO ACQUIRE BALANCE & WHOLENESS IN THE SPIRIT.
By Patrick J. Buchanan 05/12/06 "Post Chronicle" -- -- In the 27 years since the Iranian Revolution, the United States has launched air strikes on Libya, invaded Grenada, put Marines in Lebanon, and run air strikes in the Bekaa Valley and Chouf Mountains in retaliation for the Beirut bombing.? We invaded Panama, launched Desert Storm to liberate Kuwait, and put troops into Somalia.? Under Clinton, we occupied Haiti, fired cruise missiles into Sudan, intervened in Bosnia, conducted bombing strikes on Iraq, and launched a 78-day bombing campaign against Serbia, a nation that never attacked us.? Then, we put troops into Kosovo.? After the Soviet Union stood down in Eastern Europe, we moved NATO into Poland and the Baltic states and established U.S. bases in former provinces of Russia's in Central Asia.? http://informationclearinghouse.info/article13024.htm Posted by: wv on May 15, 2006 12:23 AM
A Democrat-controlled House wouldn't impeach, Pelosi says - Edward Epstein, Chronicle Washington Bureau
Washington -- House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi of San Francisco has told her caucus that the idea of impeaching President Bush isn't in the cards if the party takes over the House in November's elections. Pelosi, who Republicans have charged intends to lead an impeachment effort, dismissed the idea when she spoke Wednesday morning at a closed-door caucus of the House's 201 Democrats. Pelosi also restated her opposition to the idea of censuring Bush over his decision to invade Iraq in March 2003. "We want oversight and checks and balances,'' Pelosi spokesman Brendan Daly said she told the caucus. "That certainly isn't being done in this Congress (under Republican control). Impeachment was never her interest.'' http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/05/13/MNG94IRGOO1.DTL&type=printable Posted by: wv on May 15, 2006 12:49 AMjm: I came looking to blend my interest in cosmic rhythms with politics-- classic right-brain and left-brain pursuits. I ended up staying because the conversations here are fascinating! I agree, in between is the most rewarding place to be, but it's also the most difficult, particularly for gender outlaws. Philomena contributed a great link (thanks!) but there are many other perspectives as well. Will Roscoe's work comes to mind, as does Leslie Feinberg's work "Transgender Warriors." http://www.geocities.com/westhollywood/stonewall/3044/ jm It would surely be a sacrifice for Al Gore to give up his freedom. Pardon me while I wave the flag here, I think America is an incredible place who should rightfully have a thoughtful and wise person at the helm. Al Gore is tested, tried by fire, has been taken low and rubbed shoulders with the common man. He has had eight years to see the destruction of this beloved country and the Constitution upon which all our freedoms rest. We've seen and watched Al Gore, and we have seen his track record since he left the Beltway. If Al Gore chose to sacrifice his freedom, kiss babies, fight the MSM and the Republican Swiftboat machine, I'd be voting for him, in a nano second. But that for now is all a pipe dream, a peace pipe. Posted by: Morgana on May 15, 2006 03:15 AMYou go, Morgana!!! Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 15, 2006 03:19 AMNever saw a Taurus/Scorpio Full square Neptune that didn't shake up or down the global markets... must be a pattern. The bubbles are bursting...one by one. Markets braced for the worst Global markets are bracing for turmoil today after an ominous slide in the US dollar and a slump in equity and bond prices late last week sent tremors through the global financial system, evoking memories of the 1987 crash. Emerging economies have led the sell-off as investors recoil from risky assets, pummelling stocks and bonds in Turkey, Hungary, Iceland and much of Latin America. The currencies of Brazil, Mexico and South Africa all suffered their sharpest falls in two years as foreign funds rushed for the exits. In New York, the Dow Jones industrial index fell 262 points over Thursday and Friday to 11381, setting off contagion in Japan and Europe. The FTSE 100 had its worst drop in three years on Friday, falling 129.9 points, or 2.2pc, to 5912.1. Analysts said there were now clear signs that monetary tightening by the world's central banks was starting to crimp growth. Lombard Street Research warned the US was now heading into outright recession, with China also facing a hard landing. "Stock markets in the middle of 2006 are confronting a tight Federal Reserve and European Central Bank, sharply higher bond yields, and a downswing in potential profits," it said. It raised the risk of "an impending financial crisis" caused by excess credit and leverage across the global economy. The group advised investors to liquidate stocks and move into cash yen until the storm has blown over. The dollar has slumped 6pc against the euro and 8pc against the yen this year as the markets anticipate an end to interest-rate rises by the US Federal Reserve, switching attention back to America's debt mountain and current account deficit of 7pc of GDP. Volkmar Hable, chairman of Samarium Technology, said the world was now on the brink of a dollar crisis. "The crash in the autumn of 1987 started with a massive dollar and bond decline in the spring. We are experiencing exactly the same now," he said. Ominously, bonds are no longer viewed as a safe haven, a sign of fear that inflation is gaining a foothold in the major economies. Interest rates on 10-year Treasury bonds have jumped from 4.36pc to 5.19pc since February, in part because Asian investors are demanding a higher premium for holding risky dollar investments. The 10-year bond is the benchmark for economic activity in the US, setting corporate borrowing rates and the cost of most mortgages. The bond slide is exacting a toll on the US property market, where the price of new homes has fallen for five consecutive months. A half-year inventory of unsold houses now hangs over the market. Goldman Sachs, however, is sticking to its optimistic forecast, banking on a seamless "hand-over" from a slowing US economy to a re-awakening Europe and Japan, while China will continue to be an engine of global growth. The IMF is also bullish, forecasting roaring growth of 4.9pc in 2006, one of the highest rates in half a century.
Hi Philo and other new folk, AW tends to get pretty leggy and to help save on Sally's band width we try to keep the article links to a couple paragraphs or a grab line and link/url. Much appreciated all. Thanks Posted by: Morgana on May 15, 2006 03:29 AMMorgana, I'm with you, Morgana. I'd vote for him, too. Thankfully if he doesn't run he will be helping this downdtrodden country anyway. And I feel to the core that our next pres will be a good one. I'm open. You said, "I think America is an incredible place who should rightfully have a thoughtful and wise person at the helm." I will second that. Posted by: jm on May 15, 2006 05:08 AM"400,000 atomic bombs worth of radiation in the biosphere is enough to contaminate the entire planet for 4.5 BILLION YEARS. We cannot survive in that kind of hell. It is impossible." Actually, that number should read more like 25 BILLION YEARS. Most of the DU will have decayed to nominal levels by that point in time, assuming of course the Earth itself survives the Sun's big "going out" party about 5 Billion years from now. I won't even speculate on humanity's fate right now; it obviously hinges upon a far more efficient "weeding out" of the Rumsfelds and Cheneys who ascend to power and so gleefully commit these horrific sorts of atrocities. The Hague/ICC is where they must be made to stand trial, but what sentence or punishment can reverse the toll that DU has and will wreak upon those contaminated by it? Can there ever be a cure for radiation contamination? Posted by: NEOBuckeye on May 15, 2006 07:59 AMAnother interesting thing about the Scandinavian languages is the use of 'she'or 'woman' (instead of our standard 'he' or 'man')as the default pronoun or noun in speech when referring to human beings in general. (I'm not sure if I have the grammar terminology right, but I think you get the idea...)I don't think it was any accident that the Scandinavian countries were some of the first major hotbeds of the women's rights struggle in the early part of the 20th century, and historically, European women probably owe their relative freedom to Celtic societies where women often held property and sometimes even power. Fasten your seat belts and get ready for the week. The next stunt is coming. Guns on the border, designed to scare the people as usual. Fire up what's left of the base. And distract from their demise as always. They of course are desperate so it's guns and ammo time. A hot time in the old border town tonight. The ruling elite is sometimes in control and then they go on their murderous stealing orgies that eventually peter out. They are in an ugly phase of one now. It's difficult to witness. But that's what they do. I've always been so thankful I'm not one of them having to live with that hollowness inside. All their mansions, jewels, furs, Persian rugs, cars, trips and all don't add up to a millimeter in the vast crater of nothingness. I pity them. I rarely feel that sensation of voracious appetite that can't be appeased but when I do, it's scary. I'm grateful. There is no reason to live without some happiness. If money is tight, we have all kinds of pleasures that cost nothing. Sunsets, music, friendship, learning. If we try and take care of ourselves and stay healthy if we can, medical costs can stay low or nonexistent. Get your teeth cleaned regularly and save further problems down the road. We can have swap parties and exchange goods rather than buy new ones from the corporations. If the poor are struggling we can chip in and help them. A little can go a long way. The thing can be beaten. We can beat it by finding wealth in all the places they can't. In places where they can't steal it from us. In the end, it teaches the real value of things and tapping our inner resources. I've been thinking and have come to the conclusion that us old folks are going to be the happening thing with Pluto in Capricorn. It's the demographic. There are so may of us. We'll automatically wield political power. Posted by: jm on May 15, 2006 01:54 PMjm - I just got this message in a fortune cookie this weekend - "You discover treasures where others see nothing unusual". You post is an absolute treasure of positive and self actualizing strategies to beat these monster egos - soulless machines at their own game. Posted by: Philomena on May 15, 2006 01:55 PMhttp://www.buzzflash.com/index.php?story=Story2 Right now there is a fierce Capitol Hill war being waged over whether the Internet will continue to belong to the citizens of America or will start to move down the path that cable television went: only the big players will survive as fully accessible content providers, as the Telecom broadband providers start to set up toll gates on the Net. To make this account simple: advocates of democracy on the Internet with virtually no barriers for content entry are known as proponents of "net neutrality." The Telecom companies who want to start charging tolls for content, among other nefarious plans, are the bad guys. Right now, many of the leading progressive blogs on the net are running ads by the bad guys. Not only are these ads promoting the corporate takeover of Internet content, they are totally misleading, along the lines of the nuke industry running ads on "How Nuclear Leaks Make Your Community Healthier." The ad in question leads to an Orwellian flash that tries to convince the viewers that the government is trying to "interfere" with the Internet and that this will destroy it, which is exactly what the people behind the ads are trying to do. Here's what the ad says, before you click through to the flash: "Don't Regulate The Internet! See The Truth About Net Neutrality. Don't let the Government Regulate the Internet. Make up your own mind. It's about the future of the Internet!" See http://www.dontregulate.org/ . More... Posted by: Pat C on May 15, 2006 02:25 PMIt's quintessential Aries, Philo. Beating them at their own game. You got it. I'm always working up strategy. Can't wait. Posted by: jm on May 15, 2006 02:27 PMA quote from Josh Marshall at TPM re the *resident's speech tonight: "Just an gimmick to help the president get through whatever new bad news is about to pop." Posted by: Teresa on May 15, 2006 02:55 PMPatC, the internet neutrality bill is a concern and all we have standing between us and basically being shut down would be the Google, Microsoft etc lobbiests against the telecons. And just look what we have here, the "telecons" cooperating with our own King George and now they want their reward because they have lost a lot of short term money on this NSA deal. How will they make it up? Oh I know, charge for internet. One of the problems with these giant corporations is the lack of choice for the people and thus an inability of the people to bring pressure to bear. Exactly Sally. Privatize and rid the corporations of oversight and regulation. "Sixteen tons and what do you get, another day over and you're deeper in debt." This truly is fascism and can take the last bastion of free speech. ......... Bush to Deploy Guard at Border http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/051506Z.shtml President Bush tried to ease the worries of his Mexican counterpart yesterday as he prepared for a nationally televised address tonight unveiling a plan to send thousands of National Guard troops to help seal the nation's southern border against illegal immigrants. Editor's Comment: With revelations of hand-written notes by Vice President Dick Cheney detailing his role in the outing of undercover CIA agent Valerie Plame already being covered by the US Mainstream Media (MSM), and the indictment of Karl Rove still too hot for the MSM to touch, the timing of this announcement by George W. Bush does raise questions. Critics of the administration are already charging that Bush is using US military action to divert MSM press coverage and public attention away from the scandals rocking the White House. - ma/TO
http://www.guardian.co.uk/wormseyeview/story/0,,1775405,00.html A worm's eye view California has been toying with an extremely dubious replacement for the ballot box, writes Andrew Brown When I first read the story I thought it meant that I could steal an American election equipped only with the right sort of Swiss army knife. But it turned out to be simpler than that. All I would need is a Phillips screwdriver (which most Swiss army knives do have anyway), an adaptor from Maplin or Radio Shack, and a memory card like the one that I have in my camera - oh, and a programmer friend to write the election results that I wanted. Give me those, and five minutes alone with a Diebold touch-screen voting device, and I will give you the election of your choice. More... Posted by: Pat C on May 15, 2006 03:47 PMSOME INSPIRATION FROM AL GORE Excerpts from April 25, 2006 Q& A by Al Gore at Sneak Peak of his movie, “An Inconvenient Truth” “. . . And we shouldn’t, by the way, just focus on presidential elections, because while my party was doing that, the Republicans took over the country at the grassroots level. I believe that this issue is one that must be addressed in its own right for such urgent reasons. But in the process of addressing it I do believe that we will find the ability to see other challenges that now masquerade as political controversies and see them really as moral issues. Let me just close with this. There’s an old cliché about the way the Chinese write the word crisis. They use two symbols in tandem. The first by itself means danger. The second means opportunity. Our word just conveys usually the danger part of it but there is tremendous opportunity in rising to meet this crisis. The danger is real and unprecedented and breaking through America’s category five denial involves communicating clearly what the danger really is. But is equally important, maybe more important, once that wall of denial is broken so that light flows through it, to convey what that opportunity is. And the opportunity is not just to build much better technologies and have new jobs and higher incomes and new economic opportunities. All of those things are real. But there is another opportunity that larger than all of those. And it is this. Few generations have the opportunity to have a shared moral purpose. A focus that is worthy enough to empower us to put aside more of the bitterness and bickering that we are vulnerable to getting bound up in and lost in. The generation of my parents was called “The Greatest Generation” because they had such a moral challenge from fascism in the Pacific and the Atlantic. They rose to meet that challenge successfully. And here’s what happened. When they did they gained a moral vision and the ability to put in place the Marshall Plan and to convince the taxpayers to pay for it. Seriously. And to launch the United Nations and to lay the foundation for what became fifty years of peace and prosperity. We coasted for a long time. That vision articulated by Omar Graveley for one who said, “It’s time we steered by the light of the stars and not by the lights of each passing ship.” That vision came from the opportunity they had after rising to meet that challenge to see clearly what was happening. Now here we are, and we have HIVAIDS and twenty million orphans on the continent of Africa alone and we have famines, incipient famines, and grinding poverty, and tens of millions of deaths from easily preventable diseases. And a series of economic and environmental crises and extinction crises and all of these now masquerade as political conundrums. You say, “Oh it’s just so tough. It’s so hard to deal with.” As we rise to meet this challenge successfully we will gain the moral vision to see other challenges for what they really are. Moral issues, ethical issues, spiritual issues with accessible solutions if we have the will to do it. And as I said, the only thing we need is political will and that is a renewable resource. Thank you for coming.”
This is why David Gregory can't pass the background check? http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/05/federal_source_.html Federal Source to ABC News: We Know Who You're Calling A senior federal law enforcement official tells us the government is tracking the phone numbers we call in an effort to root out confidential sources. "It's time for you to get some new cell phones, quick," the source told us in an in-person conversation. We do not know how the government determined who we are calling, or whether our phone records were provided to the government as part of the recently-disclosed NSA collection of domestic phone calls. More... Posted by: Pat C on May 15, 2006 04:39 PM
By PAUL KRUGMAN President Bush refuses to extend the sign-up period. "Deadlines," he said last week, "help people understand there's finality, and people need to get after it, you know?" His real objection to extending the deadline is probably that this would be an implicit admission that his administration botched the program's start-up. And Mr. Bush never, ever admits mistakes. But Part D's bad start isn't just another illustration of the administration's trademark incompetence. It's also an object lesson in what happens when the government is run by people who aren't interested in the business of governing. Before we get there, let's talk for a moment about the problems older Americans have encountered over the past few months. Even Mr. Bush has acknowledged that signing up for the program is a confusing process. But, he says, "there is plenty of help for you." Yeah, right. There's a number that people needing help with Part D can call. But when the program first went into effect, there were only 300 customer service representatives standing by. (Remember, there are 43 million Medicare recipients.) There are now 7,500 representatives, making it easier to reach someone. But should you believe what you're told? Maybe not. A survey by the Government Accountability Office found that when Medicare recipients asked for help in determining which plan would cover their medications at the lowest cost, they were given the right answer only 41 percent of the time. Clearly, nobody in the Bush administration took responsibility for making Part D's start-up work. But then you can say the same thing about the whole program. After all, prescription drug coverage didn't have to be bafflingly complex. Drug coverage could simply have been added to traditional Medicare. If the government had done that, everyone currently covered by Medicare would automatically have been enrolled in the drug benefit. Adding drug coverage as part of ordinary Medicare would also have saved a lot of money, both by eliminating the cost of employing private insurance companies as middlemen and by allowing the government to negotiate lower drug prices. This would have made it possible to offer a better benefit at much less cost to taxpayers. But while a straightforward addition of drug coverage to Medicare would have been good policy, it would have been bad politics from the point of view of conservatives, who want to privatize traditional social insurance programs, not make them better. Moreover, administration officials and their allies in Congress had both political and personal incentives not to do anything that might reduce the profits of insurance and drug companies. Both the insurance industry and, especially, the pharmaceutical industry are major campaign contributors. And soon after the drug bill was passed, the congressman and the administration official most responsible for drafting the legislation both left public service to become lobbyists. So what we got was a drug program set up to serve the administration's friends and its political agenda, not the alleged beneficiaries. Instead of providing drug coverage directly, Part D is a complex system of subsidies to private insurance companies. The administration's insistence on running the program through these companies, which provide little if any additional value beyond what Medicare could easily have provided directly, is what makes the whole thing so complicated. And that complication, combined with an obvious lack of interest in making the system work, is what led to the disastrous start-up. All of this is, alas, terribly familiar. As John DiIulio, the former head of Mr. Bush's faith-based initiative, told Esquire, "What you've got is everything — and I mean everything — being run by the political arm." Ideology and cronyism take complete precedence over the business of governing. And that's why when it comes to actual policy as opposed to politics, the Bush administration has turned out to have the reverse Midas touch. Everything it gets its hands on, from the reconstruction of Iraq to the rescue of New Orleans, from the drug benefit to the reform of the C.I.A., turns to crud.
Turn up your speakers http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-hipp/im-so-loathsome-i-could-_b_21033.html I'M SO LOATHSOME I COULD SPY Chavez: Imprison 'genocidal' Bush Monday, May 15, 2006 Posted: 1558 GMT (2358 HKT) LONDON, England (CNN) -- Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has accused George W. Bush of committing genocide and said the U.S. president should be imprisoned by an international criminal court. The leftist leader made his remarks on Monday at a joint news conference with London Mayor Ken Livingstone after a reporter for the BBC likened some comments of his to Bush's phrase, first delivered shortly after the September 11 terrorist attacks, "You are either with us or against us in the fight against terror." Continue to read: The other shoe is about to drop very soon in the Plame investigation -- and its connection to the WHIG (White House Iraq Group) headed up by VP Cheney's cherry pickers. Italian Pay-off From Niger Forgery? Italian journalists and parliamentary investigators are hot on the trail of how pre-Iraq War Italian forged documents were delivered to the White House alleging that Saddam Hussein had obtained yellowcake uranium ore from Niger. New links implicating Italian companies and individuals with then-Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi now raise the question of whether Berlusconi received a payback as part of the deal -- namely, a Pentagon contract to build the U.S. president's special fleet of helicopters. http://www.cato.org/view_ddispatch.php?viewdate=20060515#2 Bush's Power Play
"Congress is on notice from the president that he will not enforce parts of legislation he believes interfere with his constitutional authority. These are extraordinary times, for sure, and the president says he is acting to safeguard the country. But Democrats and some Republicans, along with human rights activists and legal scholars, suggest Bush has gone too far in stretching presidential powers." According to a recently published Cato study, President George W. Bush has failed in his most important responsibility "to preserve, protect and defend" the Constitution of the United States. In http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=6330 "Power Surge: The Constitutional Record of George W. Bush, Cato legal scholars Gene Healy and Timothy Lynch, detail a pattern with the Bush administration of a "ceaseless push for power, unchecked by either the Courts or Congress" on issues ranging from war powers, habeas corpus, and federalism to free speech and unwarranted surveillance. "That pattern should disturb people from across the political spectrum," the authors write. "Far from defending the Constitution, President Bush has repeatedly sought to strip out the limits the document places on federal power." Posted by: Pat C on May 15, 2006 06:59 PMIs Bush Ready to Fire Cheney? Former CIA analyst Ray McGovern has described Cheney's receipt of a DIA document as very unusual. "In more than two years of briefing then-Vice President George H. W. Bush every other morning, not once did he [Bush] ask a question about a DIA report or even indicate that he had read one," McGovern recalled. A copy of Wilson's article bearing Cheney's handwritten notes can be
WHEN BU$H SPEAKS TONITE MOON WILL BE VOID OF COURSE. I WAS TAUGHT THAT MEANS NOTHING WILL COME OF THE MATTER; CONSEQUENTLY PROBABLY NO IMPACT. Posted by: DENNIS on May 15, 2006 07:16 PMjm, you wrote "I've been thinking and have come to the conclusion that us old folks are going to be the happening thing with Pluto in Capricorn. It's the demographic. There are so may of us. We'll automatically wield political power.I've been thinking and have come to the conclusion that us old folks are going to be the happening thing with Pluto in Capricorn. It's the demographic. There are so may of us. We'll automatically wield political power." That exact thought DROPPED into my head very suddenly this week! That's a sure sign of it being an intuitive message. It has to do with our generation's collective work on the planet. We've done all the evolving that Pluto forces on us through Leo, Virgo, Scorpio and Sagittarius. Now we must be mature enough to do the next step in Capricorn. The thing about Capricorn that I like is that while all the other signs dream up their visions for the future, Capricorn is the one that makes it happen. Without the need for confetti, trumpets, bells or whistles. Posted by: Goldensilence on May 15, 2006 07:29 PMIn my above post I forgot LIBRA! Pluto has taken us through a great deal of evolution. Posted by: Goldensilence on May 15, 2006 07:31 PMBudget Cut Would Shutter EPA Libraries....this has me chewing nails and wanting to spit them out at the GOP...or druggieprez in particular....they are crippling the EPA libraries by cutting money (85% !!!) from the next budget.... Posted by: judiGem on May 15, 2006 07:37 PMOMG!! Posted by: Pat C on May 15, 2006 07:52 PMDennis, possibly no impact because either (a) he's not saying anything, just talking around stuff or (b) no one is listening because they're ticked he's preempting the season finale of their favorite shows or (c) both. I really do think this speech is timed to divert our attention away from probably the NSA stuff because really when has this administration really tried to explain anything to us truthfully? I hear shoes dropping all over the country. Posted by: Teresa on May 15, 2006 07:58 PMThey're working fast because they are running out of time!
Thu May 11th, 2006 at 08:58:48 AM EDT :: News Popular children's author Patricia Polacco has been censured by McGraw-Hill for her statements critical of President Bush's education reform program, No Child Left Behind (NCLB). The Nation has reported that "the amount of cross-pollination and mutual admiration between the Administration and that empire [McGraw-Hill] is striking:
June 18, 2005 is the big day to circle on your celestial calendar to begin the Cheney Watch. The planet Mars is now in Leo – and this is the planet that rules Cheney’s Aries 9th house – which governs the area of one’s realities with mundane affairs in courts - and legal affairs in general. From June 17th through to June 21st – transiting Mars in Leo will conjunct t. Saturn in Leo whereupon both of these old malefics square Jupiter in Scorpio and setting into frozen motion an ominous Fixed Grand Square that will bullseye Cheney’s Aquarius Sun @ 10 degrees & Mercury in Aquarius 24 degrees in a radix square to his Taurus 9th house stellium from the 7th degree all the way to the 22nd degree. His natal Jupiter, Saturn and Uranus in Taurus are in for a “major blowback” – a direct hit from the transiting Mars Saturn Leo conjunction through his Sun ruled Leo 12th house of secrets – and behind the scenes malfeasance. Those ‘Plame notes are definitely going to come back to haunt him – and prove to be the direct link to his being the senior administrative official who authorized Libby and Rove to leak Plame’s name to the media. The term "blowback," which officials of the Central Intelligence Agency first invented for their own internal use refers to the unintended consequences of policies that were kept secret from the American people. We may learn that the CIA is in the position to apply this term to expose the Bush - Cheney administration as reverse retaliation for blowing the cover off one of their most highly valued classified undercover agents, Valerie Plame. * George Bush Astrology – A Major Karmic Moment In the Destiny of the US ... More news that is not good for our Incompetent-In-Chief. His progressed Moon is about to conjunct his South Node this July, usually showing a time where he needs to lay low, say little, and follow through on things rather than push. That’s not exactly what we can expect from his dysfunctional personality. Then we find his progressed Sun is exactly semisquare Saturn at the same time his progressed Mars conjuncts his ruling Moon in September 2006. This would indicate that as the Summer progresses, Bush’s presidency and his personality are going to crash, and he’ll be prone to rash behaviors, conflict with authority figures, and fairly depressed and anxious at the same time. Emotionally rash while struggling with the load of responsibility all add up to a big mess in the very near future. An aspect is most volatile just after an aspect is exact, so be alert to what’s up beginning August, as it won’t be pretty for Bush and his criminal agenda from that point on. The Mars/Jupiter parallel and contraparallel gave him just enough rope to hang himself, and now the world sees him being hoist on his own petard. He will be prone to radical thinking and feelings that will be difficult, perhaps even violent, so we can only hope someone is able to put a leash on what may become a reprise of Captain Queeg disintegrating in “The Caine Mutiny.” Bush is going through perhaps the hardest and most volatile period of his entire life over the next couple of years, and I hope he learns he needs to change, becoming more emotionally mature and stable enough to handle it. As it is, expect our country also to go through an incredibly destabilizing, volatile, and revolutionary period, where a new order will challenge the willfulness of the old order. ... http://www.aquariuspapers.com/astrology/2006/04/george_bush_ast.html Official website of Special Prosecuter - Patrick Fitzgerald Whistling when passing the graveyard, perhaps? As the grand jury prepares to meet again on Wednesday, the waiting game for Rove continues. A few of his friends say they think the investigation has taken an emotional toll on him. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060515/ap_on_go_pr_wh/rove Whistle Past The Graveyard We walk in hollowed halls, our shirts are so white. We don't see the danger, we don't know what's going on. We make contact on the telephone as the air conditioner hums. We don't see the ghost and goblins, nor see the spooks and ghouls. We don't understand money, we don't understand wrong and right. Philo, Joanna....June 2005? Posted by: judiGem on May 15, 2006 09:36 PMPhilo....NO FLIES ON ROVE, HE THINKS.... Posted by: judiGem on May 15, 2006 09:39 PMhttp://www.motherjones.com/mojoblog/index.html UPDATE FROM THE MOJO BLOG:
This just makes me sick and sad. http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/05/15/MNGE4IRVTN1.DTL Latinos enlisting in record numbers ................... http://www.workingforchange.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=398BDE1F-E3FD-7B0B-042E125D18390F7C Supreme Court Helps Corporate America Emasculate Taxpayers Hah! TODAY would be good, eh judi? Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 15, 2006 09:43 PMJOANNA...CodePink has been notified about Carol Fisher case (MOJO blog article)...check the comments...this is totally 1984....the book, not the year. This needs to be spread wide....I wonder if this is going to get worse in this country, as the USA's Venus gets involved with Pluto (I think Sally has talked about this re the USA chart and what it holds for women). Mark Crispin Miller is involved with this, but for some reason, I've stopped getting his emails...Pat C., what about you? They just stopped... Posted by: judiGem on May 15, 2006 09:45 PMhttp://markcrispinmiller.blogspot.com/2006/05/stalinism-in-ohio.html this is his blog on Carol Fisher...this is bloody unreal...it is, as he says, Stalinist Russia time.... Posted by: judiGem on May 15, 2006 09:47 PMOpps -- correction - June 18, 2006!! Thanks for catching this Judi -- probably a mistype -- yanno -- 5 is next to 6 on the upper keyboard -- and I tend to not look at what I am typing -- as I am gazing (and studing the chart)that is placed on my left hand side at on my desk. Yes, I was pretty sure it was a typo, because Mars was in Cap last year! Posted by: judiGem on May 15, 2006 10:03 PMPat C...the article from David Sirota you posted raised my blood pressure about 100 pts....this is bloody unreal. We have become a Kafka novel, this country...or is it the Island of Lord of the Flies? Posted by: judiGem on May 15, 2006 10:05 PMJudi, yes me too. I think he's in California and not at his normal computer. Posted by: Pat C on May 15, 2006 10:05 PMJudi, I have to wonder how many legal technicalities will be used to rob us all. Posted by: Pat C on May 15, 2006 10:09 PMgood grief Joanna....I just started reading Sedgwick's Pushing Rope and realized that I am feeling the effects of this pattern in my last few posts..I am furious, outraged, and purple in the face.... Posted by: judiGem on May 15, 2006 10:10 PMjm & Goldensilence, your little exchange about "us old folks" and Pluto in Cap got me to thinking (always a dangerous thing!) about the earlier discussion of Crones, matriarchy, etc. The Maiden, Mother and Crone triad doesn't have much historical evidence to back it up, since it is a more modern construction from (I believe) Gerald Gardner's brand of Wicca. I always take the long view of history, looking for trends and cycles through time. I also believe that the nature of our respective deities reflect our spiritual and mental growth as well as our needs. For example, the church could not suppress devotion to Mary as Mother of God, because the common people needed a Divine Mother. Now that we as a species are (hopefully!) on the verge of growing up, we will not need Mama so much as we need a Sage, a Wise One, a Crone, an Elder to guide us through the mess we've made of this planet. I am in awe of post-menopausal women and their power. I see them getting things done, esp. when Baby Boomers arrive at this age. YES! Magazine recently devoted an issue to elders, how to become an elder, how to create meaningful homes (as opposed to warehouses) for elders so they can have a purpose in life, and how to mentor our young ones. I believe it's a growing trend, and none too soon. Posted by: Joe on May 15, 2006 10:11 PMWelcome to the New Samizdat. Boy, talk about information overload. I just had a moment to look at the post about ABC being spied on (and Invictus' addendum about a national daily taking precautions against it), and rather than sink in, it hit me like a ton of bricks. The free press in this country has been utterly destroyed by the Bush administration, and they've done it without taking the usual extraordinary steps that most totalitarian regimes resort to. When the issue of press freedom has been brought up in the past, a common response from the Right has been along the lines of 'No newspapers are being shut down. No TV networks are being censored. They can still print whatever they want.' But the point is this - because they have decided to spy on media outlets and they've come right out and told those outlets they were being spied upon, there's no need for them to censor them or shut them down. Because their phones and networks are being watched, media outlets have altered their behavior - and that alone has changed the nature of news reporting whether anyone wants to acknowledge the fact or not. When a major news daily has to go offline or buy disposable cell phones to work stories - when they have to resort to what the Bush administration describes as terrorist tactics in order to simply get their jobs done - it is no longer an exaggeration to state that free media in this country has been all but extinguished. There's an old term that was once used to describe how the First Amendment could be abrogated by the passage of certain law, and that term is 'Chilling Effect.' Well, the Chilling Effect is well underway at this point, but not due to any law. Rather, the chill is coming from unlawful behavior, that of the Bush administration. It's down to this - the news media in this country is being reduced to a new version of the old Russian Samizdat, where news was circulated by low-tech means in order to avoid the prying eyes of the Politboro. A major daily newspaper in this country is now moving 'off the grid' in order to avoid having their work spied upon by our own government. Just stop and think about that for a moment. The Bush administration is forcing news outlets to in effect go underground with reporting - and they're making no secret about it. In effect, they are taunting the US media, daring them to try reporting anything controversial or reflecting negatively on the administration. And the big question now is the same as I asked earlier - what now? Will the media stand up for themselves and the First Amendment and shout this from the rooftops? Or will they just help Bush finish off Freedom Of Speech in this country by rolling over and letting him and his minions intimidate them into self-censorship? You may think that this is hyperbole, but it's not. The situation speaks for itself. Our most fundamental right, the one that sits atop the Founding Fathers' Hit Parade of inalienable rights, has a pillow over its face and it's being held by George W. Bush. The question now is if the media will fight back, or let him suffocate the very thing that all of their livelihoods depend upon most. Step up, media. Now. http://www.blah3.com/article.php?story=20060515125850385#comments Posted by: Pat C on May 15, 2006 10:17 PMJoe, thank you for the compliment! I think what makes our particular generation different from others when they were at our age level is that we broke through barriers that had been holding us all back before. When women made it into the business world at first they wanted what men have had - a career with all the perks (this is a very simplistic way I'm explaining why I think things are different now). But in the 80s and 90s something else happened but it was all internal. Women discussed things with each other, be it at the office or at the kitchen table. Women found out that what men had always had was NOT THE ANSWER! The corporate mindset, the pursuit of the bottom line, unchecked growth for no other reason than to make a profit, working to acquire the acourterments of social standing like a huge house, a Mercedes, or membership in a country club were just as bad as what they had before when they were enslaved in the home raising children and catering to their man. It may be fancier but it's still slavery even for men. The result is the growth of the consciousness that we must find another way which has not been done before. The one-pointed drive for THINGS that our society has done in the 20th Century has left us in a barren wasteland on soul levels. We have to find a way to bring what we know as souls 'down' and integrate it into the earth plane. Anything less is to repeat the same failed things again and again. We need to grow up and be wise. Posted by: Goldensilence on May 15, 2006 10:45 PMImpeachPAC An Impeachment Resolution? Cool! Can it be done in my town? Yes it can. And you can do it. One of the most remarkable things about this movement is that there are people everywhere – even where you least expect it – who are just as convinced as you are that something has to be done. Yes, even Republicans. Even better, resolutions like this can make the news and move the ball forward even if they fail. So just by gathering the courage to speak up and make yourself heard, you’re doing something to move us closer to that tipping point where it’s no longer feasible for our elected officials not to hold the president accountable for his actions. How can I do it? How Accurate Was the 'Rove Indicted' Story? On Saturday afternoon, we ran a breaking story titled, "Karl Rove What everyone is asking right now is how accurate is the story? Has In short, we had two sources close to the Fitzgerald investigation who We had confirmation. We ran the story. Posted by: Philomena on May 15, 2006 10:57 PM"This number is often disguised as '18' or 6+6+6 /3x6 " There are at least a dozen credible sources reporting on the strong occult 'signatures' stamped all over major world events recently, implying that events of global import are planned using certain patterns. Oft quoted examples are: The '777' patterns found in the London bombings on July 7th, 2005; For 2 reasons: They want to hide the truth from the masses, while communicating their success (in orchestrating a planned crisis) to the elite. Public radio broadcasts were used to transmit secret messages to resistance members in World War 2. Exactly the same method works now, albeit slightly more hi-tech. Joe speculated: "...The Maiden, Mother and Crone triad doesn't have much historical evidence to back it up, since it is a more modern construction from (I believe) Gerald Gardner's brand of Wicca." Wicca, as an earth-based spiritual system, has been in one continuous operation in spite of having to go underground many times. Women, if they weren't pink middle class, have ALWAYS worked & in slavish conditions... so have even their littlest children. Nothing new... tho the middle class women as a whole THOT it was when THEY became involved. Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 15, 2006 11:17 PMDang, youll notice that they are trotting out the interstate commerce laws again. This has been the pattern for awhile to squelch the attempts by states to reassert their rights. States rights vs Fed gov may turnout to be much harder than we anticipated. I shall add it is so about Wicca because it is organic, always long welling up from relationship with the natural world... not put together by logos, or the mentations & finagling of theological men's minds for purposes of control... um, non-organic, rooted in nothing real. ;O) Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 15, 2006 11:27 PMDid Jason Leopold get Rolled? The Ten Commandments of Mother Earth I. Thou shalt love and honour the Earth for it blesses thy life and governs thy survival. II. Thou shalt keep each day sacred to the Earth and celebrate the turning of its seasons. III. Thou shalt not hold thyself above other living things nor drive them to extinction. IV. Thou shalt give thanks for thy food, to the creatures and plants that nourish thee. V. Thou shalt educate thy offspring for multitudes of people are a blessing unto the Earth when we live in harmony. VI. Thou shall not kill, nor waste Earth's riches upon weapons of war. VII. Thou shalt not pursue profit at the Earth's expense but strive to restore its damaged majesty. VIII. Thou shalt not hide from thyself or others the consequences of thy actions upon the Earth. IX. Thou shalt not steal from future generations by impoverishing or poisoning the Earth. X. Thou shalt consume material goods in moderation so all may share the Earth's bounty.
The Ten Commandments of Mother Earth I. Thou shalt love and honour the Earth for it blesses thy life and governs thy survival. II. Thou shalt keep each day sacred to the Earth and celebrate the turning of its seasons. III. Thou shalt not hold thyself above other living things nor drive them to extinction. IV. Thou shalt give thanks for thy food, to the creatures and plants that nourish thee. V. Thou shalt educate thy offspring for multitudes of people are a blessing unto the Earth when we live in harmony. VI. Thou shall not kill, nor waste Earth's riches upon weapons of war. VII. Thou shalt not pursue profit at the Earth's expense but strive to restore its damaged majesty. VIII. Thou shalt not hide from thyself or others the consequences of thy actions upon the Earth. IX. Thou shalt not steal from future generations by impoverishing or poisoning the Earth. X. Thou shalt consume material goods in moderation so all may share the Earth's bounty.
Wow! The Bush Mob have broken every single commandment. In some minds that success, just like Iraq is catastrophically successful! Posted by: Goldensilence on May 15, 2006 11:52 PMJoe the books I've noted in the blog have supporting archaelogical information and the historical references for the triple goddess, Gardner just put his own twist on the old religion back in the 20's along with a few others out of England, which just feeds the sterotype of witches to Christian hysterical hype. Remember folks no baiting. Posted by: Morgana on May 15, 2006 11:53 PMhttp://derenegade.blogspot.com/2006/05/i-think-wire-photographers.html EXIT Posted by: Pat C on May 16, 2006 12:14 AMJoe A gentle informative post as usual. "I also believe that the nature of our respective deities reflect our spiritual and mental growth as well as our needs." I agree and they also come out of the needs of the time. I get the feeling that gender identification is changing in many cultures worldwide and has left us at somewhat of a loss as to what dieties really represent our resires. Christianity is on the decline and with so many years of absolute power the vacuum will take awhile to refill. It's the in between right now that I love as we dig deep into ourselves to rediscover our spiritual longing separate from the present and even from the ancient. An entirely new spirituality as a result of Pluto thru Sag. Golden that is wonderful about your insight. In Okinawa the elders are highly respected and as a result, enjoy longevity at one of the highest rates in the world. After menopause, women get a different balance of hormones, the male androgens increasing in comparison even though the adrenals continue to manufacture estrogen. Men's male hormones decrease. You can hear their voices raise in pitch and their desire to win in the world decrease. Many of them like to hang out at home and relax, maybe learn to cook, while the newly energized women with their deepening voices, power, and authority are off on safaris or going back to school to get their doctorates. Even though it might not appear that way, society really is somewhat in awe of these elegant, often well-spoken ladies. More and more so as the numbers increase. As pluto transits Capricorn, I believe we will see an owning of this power and an increase in status as the young reorganize in position. Well, Shrub actually said "We are a nation of laws" with a straight face. Posted by: Teresa on May 16, 2006 01:07 AM"shrub" left off a bit imo... "[We] are a nation of lawbreakers." There. That's better. ;O) Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 16, 2006 01:22 AMYou're most welcome, Joe... glad you found the site! Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 16, 2006 01:34 AMHe mentioned following the law more than once as if that would make us forget all the laws he has broken. On a happier note, I received a call from Claire McCaskill's people today. She is running to replace Jim (no)Talent as Missouri's senator. I'm going to go help make phone calls on Saturday. Posted by: Teresa on May 16, 2006 01:51 AMJust revisited some more gems: Goldensilence:"We need to grow up and be wise."
And Philomena. Excellent alert about Cheney and the Mars in Leo. Good analysis. It takes so much to arouse these fixed planets, but from the recent pictures I've seen, the old man might not have the strength anymore. All stooped over. He looks like the part I played in a Girl Scout play...The Crooked Man. Posted by: jm on May 16, 2006 01:54 AMPatrick J. Fitzgerald Mo 26°Aq40' PF 11°Li28' Regiomontanus Houses: Note that PJF's Hades is 8 Taurus 16 Rx and conjunct Strangelove Cheney's Jupiter Saturn 8 degrees Taurus.... Posted by: Philomena on May 16, 2006 02:23 AMHmmmm, Philomena... my computer Starfire program comes up with 40N38 73W56 for Brooklyn NY which gives him a 12 deg Asc. But I certainly think you're on the track to something good. Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 16, 2006 03:06 AM(Well... I meant SolarFire program) Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 16, 2006 03:08 AMJoanne -- I have had serious doubts about this Win*Star 2.0 program I have recently been using for past 8 months -- For as many years as I have had a computer (since 1983)-- I used AstroDelux until I moved back to Michigan, leaving my old system behind in Florida. I discovered so many math miscalculations - glitches and outright deviations in the win*star program that I am pleading to the Goddess for the financial grace to be able to budget a Solar Fire program in my near future -- which I heard is the best of them all. If I did the charts by hand -- as I have done since 1972 -- I would have caught the error. At the moment -- I am having extensive dental work done -- to the tune of $13,000 upfront -- and to try and scrape together another $300 dollars for a basic Solar Fire program is out of the question. Maybe on my birthday -- my S/O will surprise me with a Solar Fire program -- as he knows I have been bitchin' and moaning about this since day one. Ordinarily, I am a stickler for mathematical calculation in a chart...and have taught and corrected computer programmers in the past...I guess one can't have it all...all the time. PH Interesting blog to check out - Leopold Responds to Corallo's Denial of Fitzgerald - Luskin Meeting http://talkleft.com/new_archives/014842.html Posted by: Philomena on May 16, 2006 03:40 AMMorgana, yes there have been many triple goddesses throughout Europe, no disputing that! :o) What is this blog you mention? Can you repost the link please? BTW, I spoke in generalities of Gardnerian Wicca as I really know little about that version of Wicca. No "baiting" was intended, if that was in reference to what I said. You see, I have been burned by pseudo-historical accounts too many times to just blindly accept anyone's word without further research. Thank you. Posted by: Joe on May 16, 2006 04:11 AMhttp://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/05/fbi_acknowledge.html FBI Acknowledges: Journalists Phone Records are Fair Game Posted by: Pat C on May 16, 2006 04:18 AMBless you, Philomena... I've been there, done that... incl the dental which isn't done yet! If there's anything I can calculate for you, let me know. Miss Sally & Pat C know my email address. Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 16, 2006 04:50 AMhttp://www.thenation.com/blogs/notion?pid=83830 Heckuva Job, Dubya Let's get a couple of things straight about the immigration speech President George W. Bush unreeled Monday night from the Oval Office. His address had nothing to do with actual border policy and everything to do with domestic electoral politics. The real mission of the 6,000 National Guard troops he has called out is to quell the rebellion on the President's right flank, the flaring mutiny of his own conservative base. Indeed, if the President were being honest, the newly mobilized troops would be taken off the Federal payroll and moved onto the books of the 2006 national Republican campaign. They certainly aren't going to be stopping illegal immigration. Most of the Guard will be unarmed. They will be barred from patrolling the border itself, as well as from confronting, apprehending or even guarding the undocumented. The troops will be given solely behind-the-scenes, low-profile, mostly invisible tasks of pushing paper, driving vans, and manning computers. Bush could have saved the taxpayers a load and sent a few battalions of Boy Scouts to do this job. (Click here to read the entire after-the-speech reaction on MarcCooper.com). Here's what I wrote earlier today in the run-up to the speech: While simultaneously trying to appease his own right and pushing a comprehensive reform program right over their heads, in his speech to the nation on immigration tonight Bush can be expected to tear immigration baby right into two. While the details of Bush's speech cannot all be anticipated, what we know in advance is that he's going to satisfy nobody. It now seems certain he's going to talk tough and announce he's sending "troops to the border"--National Guard troops. This part of the speech aims at staunching the political erosion on his right, the ongoing slippage of his own conservative base increasingly convinced that Old George has capitulated to blue-helmeted globalists and is conspiring with Vicente Fox to give the southwest back to Mexico. But Bush will really be engaging in some sleight-of-hand. Anyone who thinks that as a result of the President's order there are soon going to be US troops with weapons in their hands standing steely guard on la linea is going to be very, very disappointed. The new infusion of Guardsmen, if it happens at all, will mostly mean the "troops" taking over some desk jobs and some technical chores, thereby freeing up more Border Patrol agents to run up and down the ravines of Arizona chasing our future cooks and bottle-washers. Some of the guard but might have an expanded role in surveillance as well; but make no mistake, there will be no phalanx of troops on the border. There's also the question of what sort of deployment takes place if the governors of New Mexico and California--as they have indicated--might oppose the measure. More.... Posted by: Pat C on May 16, 2006 04:54 AMBite the bullet and get that dental work done everybody! Joe... I think historical accounts are largely fiction. It's like a game of telephone. By the time the message goes around is is often unrecognizable from the original. We pick and choose what to accept as fact from our individual vantage points. I read it all with elements of the novel tied in. Posted by: jm on May 16, 2006 05:09 AMJoannaO - Very much appreciated. I am thinking that to be on the safe side w/ PJK's Sag rectification w/ a Sag ascedant -- that perhaps we could use the 15th degree of Sag for the rising degree -- in my head I would calculate that to be about 6:03 am EST. Would you run his chart using that time -- and then we can discuss whether there are specific aspects connected to the GJ events i.e. date when he was appointed, etc - progressions - eclipses that confirm or deny whether this time of birth is relatively close. I think the house position of Mercury in Sag -- which was transited by Pluto during this entire GJ investigation -- will yeild many insights -- if it be in the 12th or the 1st or possibly conjunct the Asc. The reason that I am focusing his Mercury position is due to the fact that he is still unmarried - at age 45 -- because Gemini would be the sign on his 7th house cusp of marriage. And he seems to be very much married to his higher mind than to the opposite sex. Posted by: Philomena on May 16, 2006 05:22 AMjm: So right! I am midway to having a decay free -- all capped -- lightweight partials w/ a total natural look when my work is finished this summer. The next two weeks have me in the dental chair for the top buff ..:) and I am so jazzed that I can finally do this for myself. I raised two children -- and alway had to put their health and dental care first -- and this is good karma coming back to me. It is a real luxury to be able to have (afford) dental care at any age these days. Sometimes Saturn pays you off in very "real" ways. joe: Have you ever heard the saying "History is written by the winners". Whose history would you believe in say the American - Indian Wars -- the American history books or the Indians' oral history? Posted by: Philomena on May 16, 2006 05:38 AMPhil I avoid doctors like snakes...one of my few fears in life. I am celebrating your new teeth. Work like this can last forever. I have also found myself completely changed when it comes to Saturn. He is becoming a trusted ally. Could it be the aging process makes us understand this energy better? Know how to use it? I know that as life goes beyond the halfway point and there is less ahead than behind, I embrace the slowness of Saturn, and the steady firm grip. Posted by: jm on May 16, 2006 05:47 AMjm : my S/O of 29 years is a Capricorn w/ Jupiter conjunct his Sun and Saturn trine to both of them -- I have embraced the slowness of Saturn coming around and empathize with my side of reality (Moon - Neptune) in this relationship many times and felt the steady firm grip on the purse strings -- and all I can say is that it's a darn good thing that we have the Mars Uranus conjunction that gave us long-long term red hot sizzle. Posted by: Philomena on May 16, 2006 06:00 AMjm & Philomena - your comments about doctors & dentists are so right on! I had really very good luck w/my teeth until I hit about 50. Then old fillings started breaking big time. Several years & mucho money later, I have 5 crowns & no problems for about 2 years. Dentistry has made great strides in the past 40+ years. Really enjoying the ongoing discussion about Crones. We will be badly needed in the days ahead. An aside: we will know when we are living in a healthy society when ALL genders are equally valued. Posted by: Neith on May 16, 2006 06:03 AMBefore the Fall Hey Neith! (Does that rhyme with teeth?) What I love about crones is their freedom from need of men so that they can take them, leave them, love them, reject them, whatever they want on an individual basis. Hopefully they use their wisdom to ecourage the development of the best qualities, and I think they have the capacity to be objective. Liking men for no other reason than that, freeing them from the acts of other men, always helps the whole picture, and vice versa. Posted by: jm on May 16, 2006 06:16 AMPhilo 29 years!!!%%$$#$!!!!!!!!!!!!?????!!!!! Posted by: jm on May 16, 2006 06:17 AMjm -- And it all began when he stole a kiss from me one cold January night in '77 ;) Mars Uranus style. We now have a huge picture of Rodin's marble sculpture of the "The Kiss" framed in our living room. Posted by: Philomena on May 16, 2006 06:30 AMHa! Teeth. This 2nd saturn return has finished them off... they were all (a lot of expensive) old caps anyway. But you guys give me fresh hope that what the saturn taketh, the saturn can giveth some shiny new ones that don't get... um, problems. My bill will be $12,000+... an ungoddessly amt of money imo. However, my darlin' son (gifted with great teeth) has indicated he will greatly help me out there. Blessed Be. Anyway, I, too, am appreciating saturn's energies more & more, altho I've found "letting go" to it rather than "using it" is working very well. I don't know nothin' anyway... giving birth first taught me that one. Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 16, 2006 06:31 AMYep JoannaO -- Good mommy karma has its Saturn rewards. Blessing to your son. Posted by: Philomena on May 16, 2006 06:33 AMJoanna!!!! May the Good Whatever bless you with wonderful new teeth. 12,000 beats the usual 50 thou or more for a few implants. Good guy, your son. Philo, I am such a romantic. And from what I've heard, Capricorns are....well, you know. That article is fabulous. Very very interesting and shed some new light for me. I've had a strong feeling for awhile that we are cycling into a golden age. Last century was one of the worst for mankind. I think it might have been a turning point. No way of knowing yet. But WWI was especially shocking, then the atom bomb which I think scared the human race to the core and will have long lasting effects. If that article is accurate then the earth is the DECIDER! Posted by: jm on May 16, 2006 06:47 AMjm stated: "And from what I've heard, Capricorns are....well, you know." What I find interesting is the vegetarianism of the gatherers. I think this is coming back and will bring major changes to mankind. I see so many flaws in the sedentary lifestyle and we've gone way way down with it. I also think that we are not fully bipedal yet and this will come and make a difference as our bodies get past this intermediary stage of clumsiness. The overcrowding around waterways I think is also problematic and population needs to be more dispersed. Many places like New Orleans will have to go. Maybe when Pluto goes into Aquarius, the water bearer, we can figure out a way to channel our water supplies successfully. Most of all, this article paints a picture not of some promised land but of natural flucuations and adjustments, which I find extremely encouraging. We've been there and will return as the wheel goes round and round. Posted by: jm on May 16, 2006 07:03 AMPluto in Capricorn... http://planetweather.net/page2.shtml The Oil Crisis! Astrologically, this current oil crisis is a harbinger of what is to come when Pluto enters Capricorn for the first time in January 2008. Pluto in Capricorn is a huge event worldwide, indicating the advent of various global crises and the erosion of structures that have outlived their usefulness – which includes resources (like oil) that we have taken for granted. It’s not like we didn’t have fair warning that our oil resources were rapidly reaching “peak oil” (where half of all known resources have already been exploited) and even being squandered as if there was no tomorrow! With Pluto entering Capricorn, tomorrow is here! The dinosaur of the old ways will not die willingly or easily – that is, in part the huge corporate interests that have kept old and outmoded systems in place. Pluto’s transit of Capricorn will last through January 2024! Ever the great reality checker, the message of Pluto/Capricorn is: does it stand the test of time, does it have integrity, and is it a habit or pattern that supports or constricts? Of course, I’m oversimplifying the complexity of this 16-year passage of Pluto, but we’ve got start somewhere. We’ll have plenty of time to analyze this major shift in human consciousness as time wears on. For the United States, it marks a Pluto return – that is, Pluto in Capricorn is the same position the U.S. was born with, since it takes Pluto approximately 248 years to pass through all twelve signs. What makes things acute at the moment is Mars in Cancer, activating the USA Sun, Venus, Jupiter and Mercury in Cancer and opposing the USA Pluto. Mars transits Cancer every few years and each time it points to something that the US needs to address that threatens its security and the basic comforts of its citizens. Since this transit is so close to Pluto’s entry into Capricorn, it signals a more serious issue that not only the US but the rest of the International community will have to face over the next 16 years – diminishing resources. Any Saturn/Pluto combination (which is Pluto/Capricorn) is a crisis in consciousness, and for the U.S. it’s the basic structure and foundation of how the U.S. has operated in the world since it was born. The next US President will have the distinct honor of bringing us into the beginning of this incredible time in US history – a true revolt of standards, institutions, commerce, finances, and principles that have guided this country since its inception. http://planetweather.net/page2.shtml Posted by: NEOBuckeye on May 16, 2006 07:03 AM'nite, Phil. Posted by: jm on May 16, 2006 07:05 AMYup, Neo. Quite a job the next pres will have. The Moon conjuncts Jupiter in Capricorn on election day. Posted by: jm on May 16, 2006 07:09 AMPhilomena: "Whose history would you believe in say the American - Indian Wars -- the American history books or the Indians' oral history?" I'm more inclined to trust Native oral tradition at this point. :o) Posted by: Joe on May 16, 2006 01:23 PMRead the Original Article at: http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_rob_kall_060515_jason_leopold_update.htm snip > Jason Leopold update on Rove Indictment Story By Rob Kall As editor of OpEdnews, I started wondering when Jason Leopold's news that Karl Rove was indicted, which we made our main headline, did not show up in the mainstream news. He's been superbly reliable and great and bringing news ahead of others. So I wrote to him: I’m getting emails asking why the mainstream media aren’t reporting on Rove’s indictment. And now, one of my Trusted Authors has written this article http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_steven_l_060515_karl_rove_indictment.htm Any word you can give me on what’s up? Rob Kall Jason replied, Rob I have now been turned into the story—again. Robert Luskin and Mark Corallo, Rove’s attorney and spokesman, are liars. Damned liars. I have five sources on this. In the news business when you want to discredit a reporter and an explosive report you call the spokesman and get him to issue a denial. My reports have gone way beyond the spokesman and the lawyer to get to the truth. I am SHOCKED that the mainstream have followed this up by simply calling a spokesman. Best Jason Leopold snip> So, tell all about your dream, Philo... Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 16, 2006 03:18 PMSaturn is your friend just like good parenting is your friend. Getting a strict upbringing beats having everything handed to you (like Bush did), even when it feels so unfair to be grounded or restrictred in your every desire. It pays off later in life. I know because I have Saturn Conjunct my Sun at the very end of my 3rd House and on the IC. Definitely a late bloomer aspect. The early hardships make for a very solid character foundation which pays off later. Posted by: Goldensilence on May 16, 2006 03:21 PMWell... & this is interesting. WhaddaHOOT! * BellSouth denies handing over phone records "I also think that we are not fully bipedal yet and this will come and make a difference as our bodies get past this intermediary stage of clumsiness." Where does this stuff come from?!?!? You're making it up, right? If not, me thinks you would benefit from watchingthe olympics (even the sp olympics), or any of america's favorite pass time sports!!! Or maybe take a walk around your local gym or sit in on an aerobics, martial arts, pilates, yoga, etc. class. Besides strength, you are going to see pure grace and elegance. What exactly do you think we should be aspiring to do on 2 feet?!?!And please no mythology!:o) Posted by: on May 16, 2006 03:47 PMThere are a FEW grownups on the world stage... at least for the moment. I'll bet Russia/China are getting a kick out of appearing the "Good Guys" these days. * Russia, China won't support UN attack on Iran - Russia/China won't support any resolution of the UN Security Council that could lead to military action against Iran, Russia's foreign minister said Tue. ... http://www.cbc.ca/storyview/MSN/world/national/2006/05/16/iran-nuclear-china-russia.html Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 16, 2006 03:55 PM
http://www.sfgate.com/comics/fiore/ Posted by: wv on May 16, 2006 04:01 PMCarol Fisher has been released for now. Her sentencing date is June 2. She faces possible 3 years in jail & thousands of $$ in fines. http://cleveland,indymedia.org/news/2006/05/19919.php Posted by: Barbara on May 16, 2006 04:17 PMSorry, put comma where there should have been period. Correct link is http://cleveland.indymedia.org/news/2006/05/19919.php Posted by: Barbara on May 16, 2006 04:23 PMFor the anonymous contributor who doesn't have the intestinal fortitude to give himself a name, doctors, especially neurosurgeons will tell you that the human body is designed very poorly for being bi-pedal. That the backbone has to withstand 400 lbs of pressure every time one lifts a leg while standing. Back surgery and back treatments are billion dollar businesses. And athletes and dancers suffer the worst as a group. And may the Goddess smile upon you. Posted by: Goldensilence on May 16, 2006 04:24 PM* GOP Sex & Bribery Probe Growing... Hill Staffers Called In For Interviews... http://www.rollcall.com/issues/51_122/news/13329-1.html?CMP=OTC-RSS * This morning, Karl Rove gave a speech at the American Enterprise Institute. During the Q&A session, David Corn of the Nation Mag asked him why he fed WH Press Sec Scott McClellan misinfo about his involvement in leaking Valerie Plame’s ID. (Rove told McClellan that he was “not involved.”) Rove refused to answer. ... http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/15/corn-rove/ (Hahahaaa... a poster on another site referred to piggy rover-loverboy as "Tubby McTreason." I like that.)
I can't believe I saw someone in here rotting for Ahmedinejahd of Iran. Just because someone stands up to Bush doesn not make them noble. Is anyone aware of the increase of hangings of gays and lesbians in Iran since he took over power. As well, "adulterous and scandalous" women are increasingly being tormented. Ah! The pitfalls of poor spelling and grammar! Rotting? And by using a double negative this person just declared Ahmadejinad noble. Bushspeak at it's finest! Posted by: Goldensilence on May 16, 2006 04:48 PMNobody said Ahmedinejahd of Iran wasn't an Evil-doer"... tho we have only the pristine saintly bushaholic regime's porno-puritan reporting that he is... I just said he was rather good-looking. ;O) Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 16, 2006 04:49 PMJoannaO: Let me preface the dream with a few details of my waking reality: I live about 20 miles outside Detroit in woodsy spacious suburbs -the very opposite of the urban blighted areas inside the city of Detroit. In my younger years as a practicing astrologer – and when I was practicing professionally – my clientele consisted of old moneyed Palm Beachers and extremely wealthy Michigan individuals who wintered in Palm Beach, Fl. One client in particular who is *central* in this dream, I refer to as the *Mistress of the Mansion* – who in real life an Aquarian female member of a very prominent Michigan patriarchal family- business group behind the construction of Detroit Renaissance Center in the 70's. I have not spoken with this client since the early 80's. time i have on p fitzgerald is 7 02am and i've been following his court filings, tv announcements using washington d.c. as his base then using solunar charts of predicting his announcements and may 17,19 and even the 23rd look like "hit" days i cant recall where the birthtime was verified Posted by: DENNIS on May 16, 2006 05:55 PMi used koch houses on pat fitz Posted by: dennis on May 16, 2006 06:01 PMjm, I haven't read the Golden Age article yet, but I don't think N.O. has to go or is going to go that quickly, any more so than Venice will. There is beauty and history here that is worth saving and will be saved, at least for the next hundred years (I hope). As most of you know, it was a beautifully planned city for its time with much exquisite architecture. It was built on the highest ground from the beginning, and then sprawled out into lower areas below sea level. Even without FEMA's new mandate to build or raise homes 3 feet above the flood plain, many grand homes in the lower areas were already raised. Some are raised on piers and cement blocks. One prevalent style is called "raised basement" or "raised cottage," where the first floor (the "raised basement") is on a slab level with the ground, and has lower 6' ceilings, while the majority of living is done on the 2nd raised level with its 9-12' ceilings, accessed from the street by stairs to the front door. Unfortunately, as the MS widdens and the Gulf of Mexico encroaches, the city will be more and more challenged. I do hope that it can be preserved as long as possible, although we all know that its footprint will be smaller (and smaller as time goes on). I've been in touch with a number of the various neighborhood civic associations who have been charged with coming up with their own urban redesign plan to submit as part of the city's master plan. These groups are doing simply spirited and admirable work in overcoming the challenges they are facing, and that work is being documented on film. Not only are funds being donated to support the efforts, but nationally renown urban planners are donating time. In one case, a graduate Harvard class has help re-design a neighborhood in ways that seem to be quite cost effective, merely by adding some parks, bike paths, doing repair and maintenance on roads, traffic lights and signs, adding neighborhood entry ways, a little paint and spit, community clean-ups, remaking buildings into schools, neighborhood recreation centers. In the process, communities have really come together and gelled and that is probably the greatest blessing of all. Neighbors now know their neighbors, not just a few, but most of them. Posted by: on May 16, 2006 06:02 PMPhilo, Your dream sounds like one of the Mansions on higher planes. Spring cleaning is happening and your family are all together again (on soul levels if not on the physical plane) and the great Becoming is happening now. I've always interpreted houses in dreams as deep psychological or soul level work. The house is symbolic of one's body or bodies. Many times during major turning points in my life I've dreamt of being in a house that was so cluttered that I had to climb over furniture to get anywhere. I would wake up exhausted from climbing and climbing and never getting where I wanted to be. And until I dealt with the issues I would keep having the dreams. As I took steps to clear myself of the next level of 'baggage' the dreams would stop. Nice dream Posted by: Goldensilence on May 16, 2006 06:22 PMCanny Comments from my seesta SpinyMendoza, artist & once union activist, with whom I visited in Scotland... "I'm looking at **'s post, & the ones following. I think that Edward Abbey had his head up his anarchal arse. I think he confused TECHNOLOGY with CIVILIZATION, & then he took CULTURE, which is collective TRADITION & he confused that with PUBLIC WORKS. "Collectively, we tend to look for WISDOM in OTHER people's thots. Wisdom is an elusive thing, & lives tend to be contextual, so we are challenged to develop our OWN wisdoms, ultimately. A kid with a malatov cocktail is making war with building materials. That's stupidity, & I'll excuse it on the basis of YOUTH. Youth is energetic, sexually compelled, developing the rationale & justification for leaving parents. The Scots called them LOONIES for a reason. They don't deserve shooting, but they also should not be seen as political icons. They are reactive creatures, doing their challenging to get a little shoulder room. "Culture & Civilization merge most of the time. Civilization is a PROCESS of social development, & Culture is the MEANS, the customs, the universally recognized icons, the behaviors, etc, that lend stability to the structure; the society. Neither thing is inherently evil, & neither thing is inherently good. Dualistic THINKING, however, is often the path to false logic. "We say the names of NATIONS, & we damn NATIONALS in the process, but we MEAN a few individuals. I never drew a border. I never volunteered to guard one. I never claimed patriotism. I never praised a patriot. I never mistook my next door neighbor as someone with significant power beyond the reach of his ARMS. I never mistook a building as an enemy, nor even a WALL. Nor a gun. "I say that I'm anti-intellectual, & I say it for a REASON. At the point that a thinker is turned into a commercial property, a couple of things happen, not the least of which is individual thinking becomes QUOTED, & context is left behind. A certain percentage of people, faced with QUOTATIONS, suspend their own thinking, & accept another's, out of context, to be TRUTH, or WISDOM. In this case, it's Idiot-thinking." Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 16, 2006 06:23 PM"idiot thinking" lovely! Posted by: Goldensilence on May 16, 2006 06:32 PMDennis -- What is the Ascendant degree for your 7:02 am -- my quirky Win*Star program -- renders 26 Sag 18. Mercury on the 12th house side makes more sense -- as he is *tightlipped* and *poker faced* (Capricorn stellium in first house) as they come. The broad forehead is typical of Sag ascendant -- and the receding hairline -- and scanty fine hair is appropo to the Capricorn stellium in the first house. Pluto has taken up residence on this ascedant degree since 2/3/06 - turned to retrograde the day before the 3/29 Aries Total NM Eclipse. If this is the correct ascendant for PJK -- than it is conjunct the GC, too. ON SOLAR FIRE ASCENDANT IS 26SAG 02 Posted by: DENNIS on May 16, 2006 06:50 PMI have Io astrology so it probably doesn't compare but with Dec. 22, 1960 I have his AS on 20 Leo of with Uranus conjunct AS on 25 Leo 35. He also has Pluto in the First conjunct his North Node on 8 Virgo 41. Neptune is conjunct his IC which explains his secretive ways as well as his sticking to his ideals. The Stellum (Mercury, Sun, Jupter and Saturn) are in his 5th house which I interpret as his being a workaholic since that's the house where one has 'fun'. But I don't consider myself anywhere near the rest of you in astrological ability. Posted by: Goldensilence on May 16, 2006 07:06 PMJoanna O, Yea, verily, Philo... Fitzpatrick is being spied upon just as thoroughly as all other americans bushaholic/drunkie cheney don't like. I imagine, tho, he's way more than a match for the WH criminals. SolarFire gives in placidus system: Mo 27°Aq409 Regiomontanus Houses: Gracious! I'd hate to have a Sag-Sage investigator with pluto in hyper-detail oriented virgo in its own house of "just diggin' up the buried facts, ma'am!" after me. ;O) Posted by: JoannaOregon on May 16, 2006 07:14 PMJust noticing... Fitz has Chiron on his moon, an essential wound involving his mother, women? transiting Neptune on his Venus - a higher spiritual calling? deceit, illusion & confusion? Chiron is now at 9 degrees of Aquarius moving towards his Venus and his own Chiron but I don't know how fast Chiron moves. Moon at 27 Aquarius - a true representative of the U.S. people (or, as my husband says, the UStacians). Just trying out my amateur astro skills... Posted by: on May 16, 2006 09:59 PMSorry, that was me. I don't know why my name disappears from the box now when I didn't have to keep typing it back in each time I posted until recently. 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