Sally, I second your idea to put a wall around Washington DC. The denizens of the halls of government are unhealthy for all living things and should be quarantined.

About people waking up at noon, It's actually pretty good that they are waking up considering the thick fog and obfuscation that the media has layered them with. I attribute my knowledge of the facts to the fact that I had the internet and I actively went looking for the truth. But I'm a political junkie. If I hadn't been I would still be in the dark. I don't think it's a coincidence that the same number of people who disapprove of Bush's job performance is also the same number of people who are said to have computers and access to the internet.

I laughed so hard i almost fell off my chair. What a GREAT IDEA, Sally! Maybe we could make a human chain around the capital. . .all of us holding hands and singing something like WE CAN'T GET NO SATISFACTION. . .SO LET'S IMPEACH! :)

By the way, i had a friend ask a strange question (or is it?). She asked: what are the indicators for June 6, 2006? (6-6-6)

What a perfect day to stage some sort of "terrist" attack.

Any feelings about this, Sally?

The government has been moving west...Colorado, Washington State, etc. I like the idea of protesting Washington because people would be in one place and have a voice, but the government is moving west.

Bush Ignores Growing Opposition to Hayden
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/050906J.shtml
Ignoring opposition from Congress, President Bush nominated General Michael V. Hayden on Monday to be the next CIA director, setting the stage for a confirmation struggle that is certain to focus on Hayden's military background and his role in a controversial domestic eavesdropping operation.

Barb Guy | There Is Nothing Divine About a Bomb Test
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/050906K.shtml
"Divine Strake is the code name for a massive non-nuclear test planned for June 2. An explosion of 700 tons of ammonium nitrate and fuel oil - ANFO - will send a mushroom cloud perhaps 10,000 feet into the Nevada sky," writes Barb Guy. "I've really had it with the Bush administration positioning things like they were ordered up by God. And this isn't the first time. There are at least nine other divine tests on the books, including Divine Warhawk and, to really prove the point, Divine Hates."

Potential Evidence Surfaces of Bush's Illegal Spying
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/050906L.shtml
Five months after news of the NSA's warrantless spying program broke, and after we've learned numerous details of the program's extent, a Portland, Oregon, attorney may have finally obtained hard evidence of illegal wiretaps by the government.

The New York Times | Social Security Endures
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/050906M.shtml
"President Bush apparently still wants people to believe that their only options are ending up with nothing from the government in old age or relying on financial markets," writes the editorial board of the New York Times.

Very nice Sally! A wall around DC....Lets just turn it into a maximum security prison...

It would not surprise me if something goes down on 6-6-06. What better way to get back the lost support from the fanatics that got us in this mess in the first place.

But, we also have June 2, 06 and the 700 ton bomb...

Sally,

Wonderful article as usual. Instead of a fence around them - how about some prison bars and cellmates the size of Mike Tyson? What the heck, let it be Mike Tyson without his meds!

I don't know whether or not we can stop this train wreck - it's pretty far down the track and I don't see superman any where around.

My feeling is the train wreck will be worse then anything we could have imagined.

The smell of revolution is in the air...

Sally...interesting transitional article....

I found this to be pretty interesting...my part of fortune is conjunct the Center of the Galaxy, right where Pluto is right now....and where it will be for a while yet. But my progressed solar chart for Dec 21, 2012 (the Zero Pt) has my ascendant at the same degree as this CG and my POF....and I've been obscessed with the ZeroPoint stuff for a while....

I actually am still able to use my older Io Astrology program for Mac, even on my new mini Mac.....I just had to reinstall it and run it in the old Classic operating system. I was depressed because I thought I would have to buy a new one....

http://tinyurl.com/mnpqq

The Truth About the War in Iraq and Al Gore

It is sometimes said that good ideas have many fathers but bad ideas are always orphans. And so it is with the retrospective of the decision to go to war in Iraq. As everyone from the White House and Secretary of Defense to members of Congress and the media engage in revisionist history concerning who said what and who knew what about the decision to invade Iraq, it is important to hold everyone's feet to the fire.

The integrity of our democracy requires it. The American people should demand it. Joe Scarborough, the self-styled straight-talking host of Scarborough Country, contributed to annuals of revisionism last Thursday (May 4, 2006) when he suggested that Al Gore was a Johnny-come-lately in his opposition to the War in Iraq. Nothing could be further from the truth.
The truth is that, on September 23, 2002, in a speech at the Commonwealth Club -- long before the invasion of Iraq and before members of Congress voted to give President Bush authority to invade -- Vice President Al Gore unequivocally and emphatically stated his opposition to a War in Iraq and set forth a multitude of reasons why.

Among his reasons were that 1) We should focus our efforts on building a multinational coalition to fight terrorism and the enemies who were responsible for 9/11 and not become distracted; 2) A war with Iraq had the potential to seriously damage our ability to win the war against terrorism and weaken our ability to lead the world in this new century; 3) Although Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction would continue for as long as Saddam was in power, the existing U.N. resolutions passed 11 years ago were completely sufficient to contain that potential threat; and, 4) We should focus on stabilizing Afghanistan so that terrorists would not be able to slip back across the border and set up camp there again. Al Gore told the truth despite the political costs. In contrast, members of Congress checked President Bush's poll numbers before deciding whether to vote to authorize a war in Iraq. Al Gore took the unpopular position, but clearly the correct one. He took no small amount of flak from his own party for raising the pressure on them not to issue a blank check and to at least require the administration to put forth the an assessment of how it thought the course of a war would run. Instead, Congress rushed to vote yes, to show its patriotic bona fides -- just in time for the November election. Not that you would know any of this by reading or listening to the mainstream press such as Scarborough Country. They gloss over or ignore Al Gore's courageous and insightful (and early) opposition to the War. So it is up to Blogworld to set the record straight. Blog on.

Lots of comments follow.

....and Jesus wept! Birds of a feather...

MURDOCH TO HOST FUNDRAISER FOR HILLARY CLINTON
Mon May 08 2006 18:25:16 ET

Rupert Murdoch has agreed to host a political fundraiser for Hillary Clinton this summer, the FINANCIAL TIMES is reporting!

Murdoch's surprise decision to raise money for Clinton in July, on behalf of NEWS CORP., parent company of FOXNEWS and the NEW YORK POST, underlines a dramatic turn of relations between Murdoch and Clinton, who in 1998 coined the phrase “vast rightwing conspiracy” to denounce critics of her husband.

Some say the move by Murdoch reflects approval of her Senate career, notes FT's Caroline Daniel. Others point to Murdoch's record for picking future national leaders. Last century, he threw over the British conservatism he'd long supported to back longshot Tony Blair.

Clinton surprised Washington and media watchers recently by attending a FOX NEWS anniversary party, where she toasted Murdoch.

Political powerbroker and studio head Harvey Weinstein is said to have convinced Hillary that Murdoch could be a friend, not a foe, in her ongoing political maneuvers.

Hillary has now cornered the NY media market, by winning support from the NEW YORK TIMES, NEW YORK DAILY NEWS owner Mort Zuckerman -- and now Murdoch and the NY POST.

ttp://www.thenation.com/blogs/actnow?bid=4&pid=82690

Fighting Back in South Dakota

Early last month, I highlighted an appeal to support progressive South Dakota State Senate candidate Charon Asetoyer. The Executive Director of the Native Women's Health Education Resource Center on the Yankton Reservation, Asetoyer is challenging an opponent--Cooper Garnos--who compiled a zero voting rank on women's health and safety issues during his previous legislative term.

In the wake of the South Dakota legislature's nearly complete ban on abortion last February, more women than ever before are running for office in the state--frequently on women's rights platforms. Asetoyer, a Comanche, decided to run (after an appearance on RadioNation with Laura Flanders) to combat bills detrimental to women's rights and the rights of families that were passed by the last two legislatures. "I feel we are going into a frightening time. Legislators are going down a dangerous path and it is very scary," she told Indian Country Today recently. ''They are trying to get the public to buy into the idea that contraceptives abort a pregnancy, that's wrong. They are trying to go after our contraceptives.''

Fortunately, thanks to the generosity of people like you, Asetoyer's campaign has gained ground. As she heads into the critical last four weeks of campaigning before the June 6 primary, she's up to speed with her buttons, bumperstickers, lawn signs and creative radio ads that started airing on two stations this week. She's also part of a wave in the state comprising three other Native American women candidates vying for Democratic primary nominations in order to take on some of the most reactionary members of any state Republican Party anywhere. These candidates--Faith Spotted Eagle, Paula Long Fox and Theresa Spry, along with Asetoyer, could actually win. but they really need more help.

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NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. benchmark gold futures scaled a new 25-year high at $700 an ounce on Tuesday, boosted by relentless investor buying powered by geopolitical concerns and expectations of further price gains ahead, dealers said.

By 11:30 a.m. EDT, June delivery gold on the New York Mercantile Exchange's COMEX division was up $20.10 or 2.9 percent at a session peak of $700, which marked the loftiest level for futures since September 1980.

666 well Karen from a mythic point of view, 666 is certainly a day for fundamentalist Christians to start making a treck to the mountaintops to await the rapture. I'm not sure if Muslim terrorists have the same view of 666. That's pretty much a New Testament thing. In fact 666 relates to the mark of the beast (maybe the government will demand we get a chip on that day)

There is a grand Air trine going on that day between the Sun in Gemini, Moon in Libra and Neptune in Aquarius (great day for Air signs)we can look forward to idealism, expansive and wisdom gaining emphasis. We are free to explore any place our mind takes us during grand air trines. There is also a square from the Sun to Uranus. Sudden news? New ideas? Crazy ideas? Inventions? There is also a wide fixed T-square with Mars at 1 degree Leo, coming to a Conj. to 7 degree Saturn, both square Venus at 9 Taurus and opposing a 10 retrograde Jupiter at 10 Scorpio. I would say there is a potential of George putting his foot in his mouth on that day to have it replayed back over and over again, except the Air trine helps his Libra Moon and Jupiter so no lasting damage.

The thing about June 6 is there isn't an exact aspect anywhere in the chart and nothing exact to the US Chart, that's not to say something "crazy" couldn't be put into motion on that day. Saturn will be conj. GWB's Asc. and his Mercury, still I think the day might be a little relief for him after a truly difficult May, but it will be very little, Saturn does stay on his Ascendant and then Mercury for awhile. Saturn in the 1st house isn't fun for anyone, it's very serious business.

One thing to look forward to is Jeb Bush losing something he thought was his in mid July, that will be an interesting loss, it might just be his healthy good looks and trim figure which is going by the wayside, but it will be a loss, leaving a hole for him to fill the second half of his life.

JudiG you want to pay attention to that GC, and think how you want the second half of your life to be. The outer planets take years to unfold and Pluto will keep on revealing where you hold yourself back for several years. The GC in the Milky Way can be poetically said to pull dreams in rework them and put them back out again.

Blair: I'll quit next year - trust me

By George Jones, Political Editor and Brendan Carlin
(Filed: 09/05/2006)

Tony Blair abandoned his election promise to serve a full third term last night, indicating that he could stand down next summer.

Although he refused to set a timetable for his departure, saying that it would paralyse government, he anointed Gordon Brown as his successor and promised to give him sufficient time to establish himself before the next election.

Tony Blair was in no mood for compromise yesterday

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=VVEMEY4J4E013QFIQMFSFFOAVCBQ0IV0?xml=/news/2006/05/09/nblair09.xml

Is the train wreck Bush's bombing Iran next year or is that the sequel?

Roderick I started to tell you what the "train wreck" would look like, but I'm not sure people want to hear what it will be like. If you were 10 years old and someone laid out your entire life, good, bad, ugly, wouldn't you have been frightened maybe even immobilized with fear? Well we cannot be, we will just have to put one foot in front of the other and work at rebuilding this country. It will continue to erode until 2020 and then the rebuilding will begin in earnest.

Just know that no matter how great the bounty of life is, not everyone gets to share fully in that bounty, and no matter how painful life gets, not everyone shares the pain. The song Elton John wrote for Lion King is pretty apt "The Circle of Life" There is a line in there that rings very true "some folks sail through their troubles and some folks live with the scars." I've said a million times and will continue to say a million more "we are not victims, we are responsible for our lives." Even if we cannot control events, we can control our response to those events.

On the subject of globalization:

http://www.tomdispatch.com/index.mhtml?emx=x&pid=82655

Mike Davis, Turning a Planet into a Slum
Humanity's Ground Zero

Sally, I would like to hear your description of the train wreck in progress (from your response to Roderick). How do you think all this will manifest? Are you basing it on an Iran conflagration or some particular configuration of events (celestial or earthly)?

Sally, ominous but true. I have warned people about the possible coming events and I get the typical blowoff from most, but some are listening. My partner and I are stashing cash, stocking up on food, water and getting ready for who knows what, but keeping level headed. Hurricane season is around the corner so we have a lot of things we will need in the event that one hits the upper Tx coast or some sort of collapse occurs. My concerns are the yahoos out there that will go into panic mode creating more problems. The mob mentality runs amok when a crisis occurs which will only compound what the government has in store for the masses.

Also, some of the local astrologers are very alarmed and saying the same thing. Something big is moving very quickly towards us and it's not good.

I've been thinking constantly for about the last two weeks about timing, and thought clearly that it was time for many of us to walk away from the wreckage. Some people will continue to stare at it, some won't believe it, and others try to pluck something to take with them as they journey on. Some nostalgic reminder of the horror. Of course, some will fear that it will rise from the dead and devour them totally. This is a unique situation from my perspective. It's not upopularity over some single issue, but profound disgust with an unnamed specific cause. I think it's more than observation but a systemic visceral grasping of the sickness of the whole system.
Diagnosis is made, treatment decided upon, and how the healing unfold is always a guess.
The frightening events, I find, are usually quite manageable when we get to them. We do better that we thought. The fear of the unknown is the worst part. Once we get into gear we know we can get out of our traps.

I've listened on my radio statio for 30 years to the same basic talk. In the last year it has changed radically from bipartisan blame to blanket blame of the whole government and distrust of Washington. The host has furthered this by repeating over and over how our politicians are all for sale, both parties, and have failed us. So I think in a sense, that wall is already being built.

The connections are too strong and I can't help but still think that this president came along to destroy his father and the underground network that he was part of. People in power seem to want them gone. The force of their grip in trying to cling to power reveals the extent of their precarious situation. They've achieved their goal, sort of, but to what avail? They've lost everything in the process, it seems. Dream over. Saturn coming to oppose Neptune.

Katrina still lives. Again perfect timing. This '06 election will follow the first anniversary and I can't see how they can avoid a commemoration. This is a real collective experience with very little doubt about the failure of our government.

It will take some years to rebuild but I think '08 will be the start of a bridge to the next incarnation of our government. That's interesting, Peg, the progressed Moon on the North Node. Very interesting. Thanks.

First, please read the story of Lee Sevilla and pass the word on her where you can. You can order her cards address at the end of the article.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-lopez7may07,0,6821511.column?page=1

Gaia, the events I am talking about are yes, celestial, and historical celestial. Meaning how these energies played out in the past several thousand years. As the earth goes round and round and the planets go round and round energies replay and replay. We as people can make different choices to those events, but even that seems to be out of the question. Leaders are still corrupt, people still give their power away to them, people still continue to deny or look at their culpability in the events playing out.

Something "big" is moving toward us and it's not "good" but good will come out of it, I am sure of that. Just looking at the last 106 years, something "big" has always been moving toward us and something good came out of it all, just to move toward something hard again.

I'm looking at the little park across the street from my house and a local grade school is having a track meet just as they have every spring for as long as I can remember. The kids and their parents are laughing and having a good time, just as they have for decades in this same little park, and parks all over the country and I know that whatever is coming we will be ok. We will grow, help our neighbors and families and friends and they will help us. That part of humanity stays the same as events swirl around us.

Gaia, the events won't be just one thing like Iran or terrorists or environmental or economic, it will be an amalgamation of events, a wave if you will of one thing after another, but we've been experiencing the wave for sometime now. How many things have happened that you never believed would happen in America? But we are here, we have survived. Hope and love is the way out of it all.

Great article Sally! Thank you!
Love and light to you all with the coming of the full moon!
Blessed Be,
Dommael

Sagittarius is the bridge from the mundane to the celestial. "Pontiff", "pontificate". means bridge from "pont".
That's what has my attention. The 29 degree Pluto in Sag in '08. Throughout history people have imbued their leaders with divine power. I think this has come crashing down to some extent. Look at the new pope. And our current leader with his divine mission at 30% believability..
I think as Pluto leaves sagittarius we will understand that there is another way to make this connection. And as Pluto transits Capricorn the business of government will become just that, albeit with the usual Plutonian accouterments.

That's interesting Sally. You were posting as I was writing and the word celestial got crossed. Yes.

I recently embarked on a cross examination of the great civilizations of history to see if I could discern some patterns. I have a lot to report.

But one fascinating thing. The civilization of the Minoans on Crete off the coast of Greece was one of the most enlightened. The island of Thera was part of it and one night a volcano erupted and destroyed the whole island instantly. Some historians and archaeologists believe that this is the lost civilization of Atlantis. It was the largest volcanic eruption in history, felt over a large part of the world. But only Thera was destroyed, The others sailed through.

Cataclysms are like this. Pinpointed. They are releases of pressure and occur only when needed for stabilization and equilibrium. So I think that as these catastrophes continue, as they always have, most of us will be safe. Unless some drastic change occurs on the planet all at once. Possible, but nothing I would motivate my thinking around. The earth knows how to handle herself.

If Al Gore had come to power and opposed the war, the DLC neocons and repug neocons would have made sure Tecumseh' wishes came true. Then Lieberman would have been free to attack Iraq, and probably other ME countries. Al Gore has Pluto conj. Saturn and Mars angular. Several people have told me Pluto/Saturn can be wicked/ruthless. Here's my astro program's partial description of this Saturn/Pluto: "You may seek a position of authority, if for no other reason than to be your own master. There are however likely to be difficulties inherent in maintaining such a position of authority, once achieved." Sounds like he wouldn't have been prez for too long. But of course, I defer final judgment to more advanced astrologers.
I hope some progressive candidate defeats Dianne Feinstein soon. From Wikipedia: "Feinstein served on the Trilateral Commission during the 1980s while mayor of San Francisco, and is now a member of the Council on Foreign Relations." It is widely known that Feinstein procures military contracts for her hubby. See http://sf.indymedia.org/mail.php?id=1710654
Today's musings from Michael Lutin are very insightful re: what is happening at this site and everywhere else right now: "9 may tuesday: People are all off in their own little worlds. Scorpio and sagittarians are plotting together. Pisces and aquarius have their own little coven now; and aries, taurus, libra and even cancer, so the sky is not all that integrated at the moment. And there isn't a whole lot of real communication going. Leos of course as usual are totally into their own head. Capricorns are obsessed with leos; it's all very separated at the moment. Geminis and virgos as usual are taking it all in, but not really participating. It's an odd moment."

"It's an odd moment."

You know like the calm before the storm. You can hear the shoe in flight.

Venus is newly in Aries and we're loving ourselves for a minute.

I think we're stunned with the Jupiter conjunct the Scorpio full Moon and the wrecking ball. The CIA has long been blamed for the atrocities this country has committed. This is the Bush's baby turned monstrous adult. Shoving the remains over to the Pentagon is hardly likely to resurrect it, with Mars going retrograde and all. They've got a lot on their little plate. To see the 30% poll and this is hard to believe. I wonder where the ball is going next.

Oh Sally, you hit the nail on the head about something big...Anyway, when I say big I am thinking of something abrupt and so shocking that it will change the course of this country for the better, but first comes the chaos. For the longest time I have thought that "all this" meaning our lifestyles, security and what not will not matter much soon. I am "seeing" something like the great depression. No gas, food lines, vast unemployment, health issues and chaos among the population. It's temporary, but will be bad enough to force people to take a very long, hard look at how we have been living. As many of us have said before, the turn around will occur around 2015 - 2017. Your prediction of 2020 falls into that time frame.

The ones that will suffer the most are those with over extended credit, the poor and the elderly. Most of us will fare well if we do not panic.

Sally, thanks for that encouragement...I also have, now, by progression, a Jupiter/Moon conjunction in Scorpio, right on the midheaven....I think that is why I am sensing peacefulness in my life, perhaps for the first time without fear in my life.

Today is particularily beautiful....as you looked out at the park in Denver, I was at the park (and dog park) in SF bay area with my two grandkids...totally blue sky, temperate, no wind yet, and quite still. It is so different that even my 5 yr. old granddaughter realized it.

It is so nice not to be caught up in the karma that Washington is caught up in. Having been thru periods of breakdown and rebuilding at least a half dozen times, I am greatful that I am not caught up again.

We are about half way thru the period when the fixed cross is operating. And though today is peaceful, I am sure that something wicked this way comes....only many of us will be the spectators and NOT the participants in this drama.

And Sally, that is so sweet of you to say that the second HALF of my life will be determined by this unfolding....if true, I would be at least 125 at 'termination"!

Morgana, since you are under the same local skies that I am, do you feel this sense of peacefulness despite all going on?

lol like you and Sally I took a moment out of my work day to stand outside and stare up awed always by the redwoods that surround us, the clean air, the warm sun and talking to my seedlings. It's these moments that I find refreshment.

btw Randi Rhodes on Lou Dobbs as I write... fancy that.

Sqlly, the article you posted on the homeless great grandmother was just too close to where I've almost been....but it is also an eyeopener for all of us. I thought about it today....what happens 5 years from now, 10 years from now, if bushdruggie and company take down all of us? I was very lucky that my mom is being covered by public services....because the thought also came that the power that be consider surplice humans of a certain age expendable in the scheme of things.

Randi Rhodes has been on Dobbs show in the past....interesting!

Sally, wonderful article; and Morgana, your last article was terrific also. I always fail to say so, but not to think it. Of course, you cannot read toughts, so here it is in cyberprint.
Clarification on Michael Lutin, when he writes about astrological signs, he refers to the ascendants.

Gee..Cybear, I am poor, getting to be 'elderly' and overextended in credit, PLUS the IRS is demanding that I pay taxes from 10 years ago, which are now more than I owed originally, even though they told me I couldn't pay them when I did have the money because I was in bankruptcy....

Must be something about this age....

from HuffPo on Cheney Vanity Fair article:
On the one hand, we learn that Cheney always brings a chemical-biological HazMat suit with him wherever he goes. Clearly a sign of a man concerned about meeting his maker. (No, not Halliburton.) Yet the article also describes a lunch at which Cheney, a man who has had four heart attacks, cuts his steak into bite-size pieces and proceeds to salt each side of each piece. Sounds more like a man daring Death to take his best shot. I can just picture Cheney in Bergman's "The Seventh Seal." Death arrives to play chess. "Go fuck yourself!" says Cheney.

LittleMoon, I love Michael Lutin, he is so funny and a good astrologer and Cybear, you are so right in your assessment. JudiG, you should be getting some new work with that progression. That is just fantastic

Morgana....from Huff Po also
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060509/ap_on_re_us/geronimo_s_bones;_ylt=AoSrjcjwBTaWGNmFLvChnLOs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3b2NibDltBHNlYwM3MTY-

Hej Astroworld, how lovely to let all of your voices wash over me. Thanks to you all.

Judi G and Sally, my sun (and merc a bit further away) is at the Galactic Center. i can certainly identify with and confirm Sally's comment. At times, especially during the sun's transit over the GC as it moves through the gate of the winter solstice it can be as if a massive download of information / patterns flows in...and then the processing of it all can be either instant of over years.

And speaking of zero point. I notice that at the summer solstice of this standstill moon year, north node will be conjuct the aries point and also Hel the asteroid ~ heal, completion, union of light and dark. I find this so interesting since it was this culture descended from Hel who built the mounds and henges that mark the standstill moon and solstices.

I am thinking we will experience big changes. A similar pattern was occuring at the 9/11 period. Hel moved over aries point venus followed prior to 9/11. Hel was retrograding during 9/11 as she did so going back to the aries point we got the Patriot act and a war in Afghanistan. The Aries point appears to be a very powerful gate at the moment.

I agree with you tseka, and so beautifully put. I think it has something to do with our progressed Mars turning around. A change in direction. That's why I think with the last of the Aries/Libra node transit we have a great opportunity. June being the transition. Venus just passed that point and today the Moon is in Libra. There is something of the fresh start with all of this.

JudiG, I think you will get through this due to your creativity, family and tenacity. You have the ability to get yourself out of your situation. There is a lot of magick at your finger tips, start using it. :)

The ones who buy the bling, houses, jewelry, cars and such even though they know that they cannot afford it will be the ones hit the hardest. The elderly and poor folks without anyone to turn to for comfort and support will also feel the brunt.

It's gonna get wierd, but hey, what can we do about it. When the going gets tough, the tough only get stronger.

Just remember that what does not kill you can only make you stronger.

Ja JM
Venus seems to be heralding the "fresh start" she isn't always the benevolent though is she? As the morning star (as she is at current moment) she has been known by some as a warrior bringing war.

As morning star i think of her as Eos who sweeps away the stars and blushes the sea pink, in the pause before dawn when neither Crow nor Raven speak.

Here in the desert her light is strong enought to cast shadow and brighten my room awakening me so i can watch the dawn unfold.

Mars retro, will be very interesting ride i'm sure.

JudyGem: You're obviously going through some bad transits at the moment. I hope that you see better days soon, and that all your troubles go away. I'm basically an earthy person (Sun/Moon), so when people send white light to each other, I don't know what they mean or even relate. But I do know that I hereby send you the best of wishes.

I've had an odd week. Two of my customers (unrelated to each other) have died - each discovered in their bed, both the morning of April 30th and the cause of death for both are still yet unknown. One was 27 years old and the other 49.

That's a good point, tseka about the morning star factor.
I think of Athene, the greatest warrior goddess, influenced by Venus, it seems. She was a master of war, but for the purpose of maintaining justice. She chose to keep her sword sheathed and spent a lot of time weaving and embroidering, competing to be the best, of course, but keeping her ferocity in check while all understood her power. Maybe in time this country will own her Saturn in Libra and understand her capacity for justice.

I think you've hit on a grand meaning here JM "understanding her power" and this is what i'm looking for Mars retro to help with
` a greater understanding of masculine power.

Yes indeed Saturn is exalted in Libra...

Hey wait a sec! Didn't they discover a few years back that '666' was a mistranslation and it really was supposed to be '616'?:)

I admit, I keep at least 25 lbs or so of rice, extra flour and a bunch of beans and lentils around at all times. I grow my own herbs and edibles and am buying a share in a local veggie farm for this season. I hope shit doesn't get too bad, but I suppose you never know...I keep thinking about my dad's family. They lived out the depression on a farm, in fact, their city cousins all come to live there because at least they had food...My dad refused to eat most types of game and blackberries (of all things!) after he became an adult because that is what they had lived on for years. They mostly plowed with horses and didn't get electricity until the 40's, their few eletrical possesions were things like the radio that was run off of batteries charged by their windmill. It's weird to think that the 'modern age' as we reckon it has only really lasted a single generation and is now quite likely to collapse in it's own footprint.
On a note of positive action,here's Eric Francis's 5-9 blog "More on Probablility Fields". http://planetwaves.net/
I am sure we have as many lightworkers in this country as we do religious zealots. It is time to get down to buisness.
Thank you all for being here now, I don't think I could stay this centered if I didn't know that there were others out here thinking these thoughts as well. Frankly, I think we're going to be OK. Humans are a lot more sophisticated than these behaviourists that run the show right now imagine.

Check this blog out for a great take on what is archetypally (and perhaps planetarily) playing out right now: (warning:the author uses the topic of Ritual Abuse to illustrate his point)

http://uroboros.wordpress.com/

Sometimes having an archetype gives you a leg up, eh?
Take care, Juno

Give us liberty to live in denial

By Don Nash

We don't want to hear about dying and death. We don't want to hear about ethnic cleansing. We don't want to hear about detention or torture and we don't want to hear about atrocity. We don't want to hear about napalm or uranium be it depleted or otherwise. We don't want to hear about terrorists, even when the terrorists are our own creation. Remember 9/11 and Flight 93 and give us a rousing myth we can cherish.

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And We Think We Are Free

By Nolan K. Anderson

Why are we Americans not afraid as we watch our freedoms evaporate - not concerned - not interested in stopping the erosion of the rights that our forefathers fought and died to achieve? Why is it so hard to understand that the way we deal with enemy prisoners today will be the way our government will deal with Americans when the time comes to "re-define" the "enemy.

http://informationclearinghouse.info/article12983.htm

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12982.htm

"We the People": Don't Want To Hear It!

We the People of the United States, in order to form a more perfect delusion...

By Don Nash

05/09/06 "ICH" -- -- We don’t want to hear about dying and death. We don’t want to hear about ethnic cleansing. We don’t want to hear about detention or torture and we don’t want to hear about atrocity. We don’t want to hear about napalm or uranium be it depleted or otherwise. We don’t want to hear about terrorists, even when the terrorists are our own creation. Remember 9/11 and Flight 93 and give us a rousing myth we can cherish.

Screw us and delude us. Gouge us and remove us from the ravages of destructive hurricanes. Chocolate cities and not anymore, white makes right then reconstruction. The South WILL rise again. Lie to us, spy on us, and take away our rights. Freedom is just another word for border security.

That is my post directly above...

Why Are We Baiting Putin?
by Patrick J. Buchanan

"(N)o legitimate interest is served when oil and gas become tools of intimidation or blackmail, either by supply management or attempt to monopolize transportation," thundered Vice President Cheney to the international pro-democracy conference in Vilnius, Lithuania.

"(N)o one can justify actions that undermine the territorial integrity of a neighbor, or interfere with democratic movements."

Cheney's remarks were directed straight at the Kremlin and President Vladimir Putin, who is to host the G-8 Conference in July.

Cheering Cheney on is John McCain, front-runner for the GOP nomination, who has urged President Bush to snub Putin by boycotting the G-8 summit. What the GOP is thus offering the nation right now is seven more years of in-your-face bellicosity in foreign policy.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/buchanan/buchanan41.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/09/AR2006050901461.html

Mushroom Cloud Blast in Nevada Delayed

Sally,
I particularly liked the last paragraph!
The ex-military guy, clerk at the local hardware store, with whom I've had rancorous arguements 2 years ago leading up to the election, said to me today......."I get all my news from the Internet, there is NO NEWS on TV!"
On the bird flue........." We are so far away it won't affect us too much. ( He was eating a home grown egg sandwich for lunch as we talked!) He did say that it has gone through several of the mutation steps necessary to make it dangerous to humans.
And the people at the supermarket, are back to cheery, friendly, and joking, Relations had been beyond tense!
Guess they're all awake now, and realize I was just trying to be helpful!
Lee Sevilla,
There but for the grace of Godess go I! I got the house as part of the divorce settlement, and I've managed thru some pretty hairy experiences, and downgrading to keep A house. Or I would be living in my car too. After running short in trhe middle of the month for 2 months in a row, I did some figures to see how much I needed to earn per hour to close the gap. My Widow's Pension comes out to $3.31 per hour, based on a 40 hour work week, 30 day month! They're really plkaying "fuzzy math" down there in Washingotn.
She ( Lee) could be one of the Interior decorators, I encountered back in the 70's. An awful lot of artistic people went "belly up" during that hostile takeover. Including Anderson Cooper's Mother Gloria Vanderbuilt. Her accessories business for home furnishings went belly up & Ralph Lauren was on shaky ground.
But yes today was peaceful! After 15 years, I have cleared the back hill enough to get down to the stream.
The cat & I went for a walk down along the stream, today, The stream winds in curves thru a salt marsh. It is a totally different perspective from down there, than at the top of the hill, where the birds are flying below the horizon. I can't wait to go down there & paint!
However mermaids await my attention in the AM.
PQ
Before the sun tops the trees, there are seagulls flying

Interesting coincidence (?) took place during the May Day pageant in Minneapolis this past Sunday. I was sitting close to the performance and saw remarkable echoes of the issues of borders and security currently raging here in the US.

Briefly, the pageant takes place on a grassy space in Powderhorn Park, and it always reflects current concerns about war, poverty, inequality, and other social ills. Just before the pageant begins, the pathway in front of it is cordoned off so that the audience, which is seated on the hillside, can watch without obstruction by passersby.

Normally, security is able to clear the area quickly by shunting foot traffic off to the sides. This year, however, security could not seem to get it together. People who had been watching the parade (which takes place 2 hours earlier in another part of the general area) continued to push into the performance area despite pleas on the public address system to go back. People argued with security staff, saying, "My friends/family are over just there, can't I cut through to join them?" One woman ranted that she didn't want to have to detour all the way up the hill and back down to the other side. Another woman cut right in front of the performance and trotted across the pathway to wherever she felt entitled to go.

Two things come to mind: inability of security to maintain borders and define limits; and incredible sense of entitlement on the part of the public. At first I blamed the security crew, but now I think they were helpless as leaves upon a swift current.

Photos of the pageant are in the process of being posted on my livejournal.

Pat C....wow....that is good news, about the bunker buster test being delayed....let us pray (and I use that term in a non religious sense) that it never happens...delayed forever....

Abilene....what a sad and inexplicable happening you've had! It is very very strange. Do you have anyway of finding out their birthdays?

My whole life changed at 27 also...but it was a friend who died a week short of his 27th birthday which caused the domino effect on my life...but 27 is the Moon return, beginning of Saturn return...49 has been called the most dangerous year in a person's life by some....and in mine, it was yet again another massive change (lost my career, the IRS debalcle part one, losing my house)....

Little Moon, Sally, Tseka (good to hear your voice again) et al (Pat C, I have been in a severe bad place major funk, needing to be really quiet and alone)...thanks for the good thoughts ....Cybear too....after my yet again another IRS conversation, I felt like such a total loser, this person who can't get the IRS off my back. I suppose it is my defiant attitude doing it....8th house Sun/Saturn Uranus....and Scorpio rising....whatta combo. My karma.

Pat Sharp, I thought of you and me when I read the Lee Sevilla article....there but for the grace of the universe, we go. But she has now discovered her own creativity...which is a good thing. Something good is coming from it for her soul. Yes, the creative community does tend to go belly up in these kind of situations, as all the money is funneled into anything to do with arms trading....and war.

WV....McCain is despicable, isn't he? Can you imagine the crap we'd be hip deep in with him in the presidency....? We'd have a world wide war with his temper and intemperance.

(((((Judi)))))

I guess it's the Saturn. I wonder if I will feel the same way in a few months with Sat. crossing my Moon/Pluto & opp. my Mercury. Don't you think things will get better when it moves away?

I do want to say that you are such a neat person, so down-to-earth and dynamic, with such a penetrating mind --- I really appreciate you & enjoy your posts so much.

And, Juno, I'm with you - we all need to be thinking about having our own little garden even if it's in pots and wooden boxes. I've been dreaming lately about getting a place in AK (and if anyone knows of any property to lease in AK, MO, TN or KY, please let me know - it's basically for my sister-in-law, has to have a barn).

Thanks, Sally, for the enlightening articles and posts. Looking forward to Morgana's article.

Clymela: I do believe that Clinton (Bush mafia buddy/partner) was allowed to be elected to destroy or damage the Democratic party. He immediately brought up the gays-in-the-military wedge issue that got the wingnuts all riled up. Clinton managed to lose the congress in no time. After that, the neverending investigations and the demonizing took an even further toll on the dems, and the word liberal became an insult in the process. We call ourselves progressives now, instead of liberal. We let the wingnuts define our title, when we should have fought back. After two apparently economically successful but scandalous Clinton terms (though some people claim that he raided the Soc. Sec. fund), the election of Gore should have been a slam dunk. Why? Because Americans usually vote their pocketbooks; but instead, almost half the country voted for the intellectually-challenged one. Clinton lost congress w/o help from the machines. Then the embarrassing Lewinski fiasco dealt the knock-out punch to the Dems. I know that Gore got more votes; but still, if it weren't for Clinton's messes, Gore should have won in a landslide.

TO ALL:
And now the DLC war hawks are calling themselves "moderate progressives." Have they no shame? They are not progressive/liberal at all.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060509/ap_on_el_ge/democrats_security;_ylt=A9FJqaS5UmFEo_0A5Ays0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3OXIzMDMzBHNlYwM3MDM-

Bob Fertik picked up a good piece on how Russert and the other talking heads are dumping on Dems for daring to 'investigate' the wrong doings in DC....holy hell....what brassy bastards these power hungry sobs are.
http://www.democrats.com/node/8871

Cheney is very foolish to bait Russian President Putin and make demands of the rest of the world, as if he were King with the forces to back it up. He is clearly letting the darker side of his Pisces Moon and Eight House Sun get the better of him. Dominated by his emotions and driven to madness by lust for power and control, he is inviting intervention by far more disciplined forces that will block, defeat and frustrate his every move.

Putin and Chinese President Hu aren't blinking. These are men who keep a firm grip on their emotions and rely heavily upon their minds and logic. While Cheney forcefully bullys and blunders his way around the world, Russia and China have rather calmly and quietly been strategizing, and taking action to strengthen their own hands, and contain the United States...

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/HE09Ag01.html
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/HE09Ad01.html

Little Moon....I think I 'm going to disagree with you....Clinton was WARNED not to run by GHWB in 1991...he ran anyway. People get this aspect of Clinton all mixed up...he is a middle of the road guy who believes that business and the public have pretty equal rights and likes to work the scene that way. He is not a radical Democrat and never has been. He was just a smart guy with a Rhodes scholarship and connections based on his intelligence and outlook and energy. He is sympathetic to business, but believe me, this is rewriting history with a paranoia which sounds morelike the people who took him down in tte first place...GHWB told him thru his 'hit' man (roger Murphy, I think the name was) in the WH that if he ran against him he would destroy him. And he did. What happened AFTER that, I don't know....And don't forget that his advisor was the republican shill Dick Morris, who gave him the information to succeed as well as he did (which was part of his seeming tilt to the right...on don't ask, don't tell and welfare reform). This country is NOT leftwing Democratic in anyway, it is a middle of the road country...that much is pretty obvious. That is exactly why he was so popular as president. And most of the country is NOT crazy religious rightwing, either....despite the success of bush and his cohorts....all illgotten gains by an asleep public. But that public is still NOT liberal by any means.

Judi, I keep hoping.

It looks like the wheels are in motion to oust Tony Blair. Saturn (ruler of his 10th house) is about to go over his South Node giving him a sure loss of some type. Swiftly followed this summer by Saturn oppose his Moon and square his Sun. I don't think he will be able to hang on much longer. And Labour will not be able to hang on to him, without huge losses.

http://news.scotsman.com/uk.cfm?id=696732006

I think when all is said and done, you won't be able to find a person in this country who will proudly admit that s/he supported Bush. Not even the most mindless of FReepers. Anyone who does admit to voting for "The Decider" will do so in great shame. That sort of "open shame" may not crystalize for another 10 to 15 years in retrospect, but it will be inevitable once the Neptunian fog eazes up, and people are forced to take a good, hard, long look at the nasty messes that we have made, or have allowed to be made in our name. And there won't be any quick and easy solutions to those messes, or to restore our reputation in the world's eyes.

I'd like to say that Cheney and Rumsfeld will hang around long enough to stand trial and answer for their numerous crimes at the ICC, but I doubt that they will make it that long due to age and failing health. And God only knows what is keeping Cheney going now. I've never seen anyone more driven to madness by lust for power and control over a future that does not and cannot belong to him. Generations not yet even conceived will curse his name and even his very soul for all of the evil he has wrought.

I believe that these next two years will contain the total repudiation of NeoConservatism, and the decisive end of the Bush-Cheney-Rove-Rumsfeld axis of power. Their influence both here and abroad is already fading fast, and as much as we might like to see it, Impeachment may not even be required to terminate Bush's authority. The coming Democratic Congressional investigations will destroy whatever shreds of credibility and public support he still has left.

But I also believe that even more pressing issues -- financial and energy -- are simmering that will shortly demand everyone's attention. I suspect that energy will trump all as the quintessential issue in the 2008 election cycle.

Thank you, juno, for your posted piece at the site http://uroboros.wordpress.com/

I agree, Neo.

Cheney has descended into a psychotic lapse, although I think he was always there and now we can see it. And you're right. Impeachment won't be necessary. A waste of money that could be put to better use.

I think these people have been suckered and keep losing whatever ground they had with the international community. I've often thought they were played for fools and used by the others to invade Iraq with our military and treasury. There were a bunch that wanted Hussein out. Now the cons are no longer needed and they are playing out their game. If Rice only knew how ridiculous she appears telling powerful nations what they can and cannot do. Trying to be a big shot. And Cheney is sick, mentally and physically. His Saturn in Taurus grasp cannot let go until he's dead and gone. And his Moon in Pisces is in wild agitation, with Uranus there and all. His grip is suspect as hard as it is.

So long, Tony!

This lunation looks to be very important. With Jupiter in Scorpio, with the Moon, in mutual reception with Pluto in Sag around that black hole we have some serious elimination taking place. The Sag rulership of belief/perception tells me that a lot of us can let go of beliefs that no longer apply. Throw in a little Saturn in Leo and Neptune in Aquarius illusion too. A royal flush of the psyche. Naked and revealed under the Scorpio Moon.

Aaaiiiichahuahua!

Steve Bell 'toon on Blair vs Brown

http://www.guardian.co.uk/cartoons/stevebell/0,,1771530,00.html

* bush's Public Approval at New Low Point

Americans have a bleaker view of the country's direction than at any time in more than two decades, & sharp disapproval of bush's handling of gasoline prices has combined with intensified unhappiness about Iraq to create a grim political environment for the WH & Congressional (necroporn)s, according to the latest NYTimes/CBS News Poll.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/09/washington/09cnd-poll.html?_r=1&hp&ex=1147233600&en=ceb3169b40af02d2&ei=5094&partner=homepage&oref=login

judiGem if you can you should talk with an acountant about your tax situation. It may take years but under the right circumstance you might try to do an "offer and compromise" with the IRS to settle a debt:

http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=104593,00.html

After the dot.com era I had to pay off personal taxes and it's the hardest type of debt to pay off - because you're first paying tax on the money you earn - then using your remaining money to pay off tax, but with back taxes there's the added penalty and interest - so even if you do a plan it can take some time just to get to the principal debt itself.

At the least you should try to do a payment plan - because they can go after your assets. So it's better not to put it off - but I know how hard it is to face, which is why you should talk to an accountant.

My best to you...

I got a ticklish image. It's like Aunt Sally, the adored wise one, can't get a rest. Poor Aunt Sally, the kids keep doggin her. Aunt Sally! Aunt Sally! Will there be a war? Is a terrorist coming? Will we die? You know, typical kid questions. She might not know exactly, or she does, and she's not telling. I don't think we can get her to spill the beans. Besides, it would spoil the story.

In my historical journey I discoverd one common factor...blood sacrifice. Most civilizations believed that to appease the gods and get protection they needed to offer human or animal sacrifice. I don't know exactly where this need to see blood run out of its normal passageways comes from, or why it remains so widespread and why we continue to be so violent, often for no good reason. A blood for money scheme among others. There has to be some reason.

The absolute worst were the Mayans. They were obsessed with blood and lacerated themselves almost daily. Their sado masochistic rituals were hideous. Sexual mutilation was required as well as human sacrifice. They deformed their infants' skulls and went on to a life of such disgusting practices that I got sick in learning about them and almost gave up my journey. They took drugs constantly and stayed drunk on alcohol. I won't go into detail but if you're curious you can google Mayan blood sacrifice and get the picture.
I am deeply puzzled as to how a society with such advanced scientific knowledge could be so backward and barbaric in their religious beliefs. Kind of like today.

In view of their inebriated state, I am rejecting their prediction of 2012 as being the end of the world or the big shift in dimension. I'm offering the opinion that it has already occurred...the tsunami.

Like the island of Thera that disappeared under the volcano, I think maybe the earthquake that produced the tsunami was in that realm. It was enough to shift the earth's axis and alter time a fraction.

Now I think that possibly the detritus is being flushed out through the Galactic Center while knowledge is pouring in from the same spot.
I've heard several wise people say that we are in a teachable moment. I know I am.

((((((((((JudiG))))))))
Michael gives good advice re: IRS.
My thought was law suit! If you could fnd a progressive activist lawyer willing to take it on! The current tax laws are criminal as any other actions by this Govt.
( including the past 35 years of lawmaking)
JUST ANOTHER WAY TO DESTROY THE "FOLKS"!

GOOD JOB jm! I like your idea to dismiss the Mayan's 2012! Obviously their judgment was lacking!
Shylurker....are you OK? You've gone missing!
Aunt Sally, Are you shoveling snow today?????? I hear it's snowing in Denver! How unusual is that?
PQ

Whew! Hello all! Good to see so many posting and the lively conversations. Yes, where are you Shy?
And, Judi. . .your upbeat attitude (and strength) will, most certainly, propel you (almost) effortlessly through this testing time.

I'll be curious about the follow-up to your earlier posting, abilene.

Sally, your 6-6-6 analysis was interesting. When asked about the date, i thought of it as another "trigger" date; one that could be used to fulfill an agenda much the same way 9-11 was.

However, this pending date never showed up on my psychic radar. So, i hadn't given it any thought until the question was asked.

I'm of the belief that we all knew, when we incarnated, what might happen during our stay here. The opportunity for transcending past limitations is here. Now. One of the most significant -- and commonly shared learning experiences -- has been and will be the knowledge that we are all connected on living threads of light, music, color and vibration.

Perhaps, from this point forward, many of us will no longer need or desire the rigid structures of government OR religion. And, perhaps some of us will be a part of a future where we continue to break those barriers? Helping to clean up, re-energize and re-create Earth magic?

Fear prevents us from seeing the possibilities. Although it is a human to re-act fearfully in situations that almost demand it, we do a disservice to ourselves and each other by allowing fear so much power. The fear being experienced throughout the world is an intentional manipulation and preventing us from making the breakthroughs necessary to move forward. Perhaps this sounds really whacked, but the illumanati (current administrations of US, Israel, etal)are manifesting some sort of power passed on through the Knight's Templar, et al. (Oh, i feel another book coming on.) What are your historical observations regarding this, jm?

MUSHROOM CLOUD BLAST IN NEVADA DELAYED

By KEN RITTER
The Associated Press
Tuesday, May 9, 2006; 10:00 PM

LAS VEGAS -- A non-nuclear explosion expected to generate a mushroom cloud over the Nevada desert will be postponed at least three weeks, while a federal court reviews plans for the blast, test officials said Tuesday.

"The planned Divine Strake experiment will not be conducted earlier than June 23," said Cheri Abdelnour, spokeswoman for the Defense Threat Reduction Agency at Fort Belvoir, Va. The blast was originally scheduled for June 2.

Darwin Morgan, spokesman for the National Nuclear Security Administration in North Las Vegas, confirmed the date change but declined further comment.

In documents filed Monday with U.S. District Court in Las Vegas, federal Justice Department lawyers sought to push back from May 23 until early June a hearing on a lawsuit filed by the Winnemucca Indian Colony and several Nevada and Utah "downwinders" to block the blast. The judge did not issue an immediate ruling.

Nevada Division of Environmental Protection spokesman Dante Pistone also said Tuesday his agency was reviewing a revised environmental assessment that test planners filed Friday.
The lawsuit, filed April 20 by Reno-based lawyer Bob Hager, accuses the government of skipping public comment and failing to complete required environmental studies before picking a date and place for the explosion.

It claims the planned 700-ton ammonium nitrate and fuel oil bomb will kick up radioactive fallout left from nuclear weapons tests conducted from 1951 to 1992 at the Nevada Test Site and irreparably desecrate land that members of the Western Shoshone tribe have never acknowledged turning over to the U.S.

The blast, some 85 miles northwest of Las Vegas, is expected to generate a 10,000-foot mushroom cloud and a shock wave that officials say will probably be felt in Indian Springs, about 35 miles northwest of Las Vegas.

The federal Defense Threat Reduction Agency claims the explosion will help design a weapon to penetrate hardened and deeply buried targets. Critics have called it a surrogate for a low-yield nuclear "bunker-buster" bomb.

It was always my take that the original Mayan civilization was not violent, but life-affirming... that they were invaded. The invaders, from the extreme north of the Planet, used religious violence to keep the peoples submissive & subjected... just like they did with the pre-Hellenic Greek & Egyptian Peoples, for instance... just like they do today.

Political Comedic Hot Potato

Written by The Associated Press
Last Updated: 5/9/2006 9:58:57 PM

C-SPAN, the public affairs network that usually covers Congress, is having to defend its broadcasting rights for political comedy.

The cable network had to ask two Internet video providers to take down clips of Stephen Colbert's performance last month at the White House Correspondents Association dinner. Both You-Tube and I-FILM have complied with the request.

Colbert hosts a satirical news show on Comedy Central and performed his routine at the dinner. C-SPAN holds the copyright for the entire correspondent's dinner.

http://www.wusa9.com/printfullstory.aspx?storyid=49129

Bush Backs Brother Jeb for White House

May 10 10:53 AM US/Eastern
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By NEDRA PICKLER
Associated Press Writer

ORLANDO, Fla.

President Bush suggested Wednesday that he'd like to see his family's White House legacy continue, perhaps with his younger brother Jeb as the chief executive.

The president said Florida Gov. Jeb Bush is well-suited for another office and would make "a great president."

"I would like to see Jeb run at some point in time, but I have no idea if that's his intention or not," Bush said in an interview with Florida reporters, according to an account on the St. Petersburg Times Web site.

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/05/10/D8HGVTAG1.html

I think the Mayan calendar may have predicted extreme earth changes that may effect Mexico, i.e. earthquakes and volcanos. That would bring their civilization to an end or at least an end to that region.

* Spending urgently needed to boost (Russian) birth rate

MOSCOW, May 10 (RIA Novosti) - Increased budget expenditure is vital to boost Russia's flagging birth rate, & would not lead to higher inflation, experts said Wed following Pres Vladimir Putin's state of the nation address. One of the key areas of Putin's speech was a demographic crisis currently facing Russia - & he proposed radical measures to deal with it, incl almost doubling child benefits & providing addl financial incentives to get women to have more children. ... http://en.rian.ru/russia/20060510/47937134.html

Here we go again with the boyz ala nazi germany et al... women shall breedeth for The Machine. Gots to have worker bees & fodder for the war machine. The real question is: Why are women not having children on their own? ...not to mention how human becomings are already outstripping Gaia's natural resources.

Joanna, the idiot world leaders don't understand that the root of all of the worlds problems today is over population. More people, more crime, more wars for dwindling resources, more disease, etc. etc....Momma Nature will take care of herself by whacking her children upside the head real soon.

The way they see it, more people equal more taxes, more consumers to support global corporatism, more canon fodder for senseless wars and just simply more people under their control to do their dirty work.

To follow up on my previous post:

The birth date for the first person was 07/22/1978 born in Edina, MN - don't have a time.

The birth date for the second person was 05/03/1956. Place and time of birth unknown.

This was the daily horoscope at Astrodienst for the first person:

Under this influence all forms of healing and being healed are especially favored. This influence is also particularly suited for every type of operation on body and soul, whether you undertake this on another person or on yourself. With people who are close to you, you can have deep conversations about those sore points which we all have and which make us react very sensitively to some things. It would be only too human to avoid this situation for fear of the pain connected with it. But, of course, you should not do so, as healing and becoming whole demand certain preconditions which are not readily to be found, but which are, during this time, especially favored.

The interpretation above is for your transit selected for today:
Mercury Conjunction Chiron exact at 01:03
activity period from 9 May 2006 to 10 May 2006.

Seems Putin was full of gems this morning..

But amid increasingly vocal American criticism of his domestic and foreign policies, Putin also issued a veiled response to Vice President Dick Cheney's accusations that Moscow is rolling back on democracy and strong-arming its ex-Soviet neighbors.

"Where is all this pathos about protecting human rights and democracy when it comes to the need to pursue their own interests?" said Putin, who also used a fairy-tale reference to criticize the aggressive U.S. course in global affairs.

"We are aware what is going on in the world," he said. "Comrade wolf knows whom to eat, it eats without listening and it's clearly not going to listen to anyone."

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/05/10/russia.putin.address/index.html?section=cnn_topstories

What's happens to the Wolf when he doesn't listen? Or is he referrint to Peter and the Wolf? Anyone know Russian Fairy Tales ?

See, I have this itch that the other world players are getting sick of the school yard bully and the bully is going to go one more step too far and blamo the jock's are gona clean the bullys clocks.

"And God only knows what is keeping Cheney going now"

Neo, he's either some sort of ghoul or he has a stash of clones hidden somewhere. By all means the man should have expired long ago.

So John McCain is trying to lock up the GOP nomination early, but whoa Nellie, look who is coming down the pike...

Bush Backs Brother Jeb for White House
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=1945345&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

So JEB v Hillary ?

Ceasar failed, Napoleon failed, Hitler failed and Chimpy the Emporer will fail as well....

I just hope the world realizes that most Americans cannot stand b* and will have mercy on us.

No to Hillary, No to Jeb, No to McCain, NO NO NO!

Are their any athiest, Buddhist, or Pagan politicians out there? Or are they under the illusion that xianity and judism are the only valid spiritual paths?

Ooops that should be...Are there instead of are their...fingers and brain out of sync again...

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'Perfect pick' for Bush
- Robert Scheer
Wednesday, May 10, 2006

IT MAKES perfect sense for President Bush to nominate Gen. Michael V. Hayden as CIA director, no matter what the critics, including a surprising number of normally house-broken Republicans, have to say.

True, Hayden was in charge of the National Security Agency during the run-up to Sept.11, a massive terrorist attack which intelligence agencies are built to prevent. But remaining unflappably confident while getting it all wrong is a vital credential for the head of the CIA under this administration.

Recall that former CIA Director George Tenet was honored by Bush with the Medal of Freedom for dutifully pretending that the case for WMDs in Iraq was a "slam-dunk'' and politely taking the hit on Bush's infamous "16 word'' State of the Union lie about that African uranium.

The Bush administration long ago abandoned the idea that intelligence should ever be permitted to check this president's imperial hubris or political agenda.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2006/05/10/EDGQHIOURG1.DTL&type=printable

"...the idiot world leaders don't understand that the root of all of the worlds problems today is over population."

Well... & I differ a bit, Cybear, in that I think they do... & not only that they "do," but that they foster & incite it on purpose.

"I just hope the world realizes that most Americans cannot stand b* & will have mercy on us."

The same kind of mercy that the USians have shown the Iraqi peoples et al?! Mebbe.

Pat Sharp: I admire your feistiness and resilience in spite of trying circumstances. And I'm truly jealous about your gardening skills; I'm trying to learn, but I haven't had much luck. Of the few things I planted, only the orange seed was successful, no luck with the lemon seed. I bought a few tomato plants (because I simply don't know how to start them from seeds), and I'm truly amazed to see tomatoes growing out of those plants! It's simply delightful. I wish there was a school where people could learn veggie-growing skills.

I'll bet there's all kinds of info on growing vegetables online... google would be a good start.

there was a headline on Raw Story that Georgiedruggie has announced that his brother Jeb would make a 'great' president....
and this from democrats.com:
Who's Threatening Dukestir in His Jail Cell?

Submitted by Bob Fertik on May 10, 2006 - 1:31pm.Duke Cunningham
It looks like the long arm of the Bush Organized Crime Family reaches into Federal prison. As Josh Marshall writes:
"Apparently, even in the slammer, Duke isn't cooperating. He's not willing to give up the really big fish, it seems.
Says Rick Gwin, regional head of the Defense Criminal Investigative Service, "In my opinion, he has not been cooperative and I have not gotten any information from him to further develop other targets. I was hoping that from a jail cell, he might become more cooperative, but we just don't have the cooperation that I think we should have."
And then Gwin says this: "This is much bigger and wider than just Randy 'Duke' Cunningham. All that has just not come out yet, but it won't be much longer and then you will know just how widespread this is."
Uh oh.
Marshall adds this thought about Cunningham:
What would it take to get him to clam up? Duke is 64 years old. He's had cancer. He was just sentenced to 8+ years in prison. That might well be a death sentence. Who's he protecting? And what would make him think he's better off keeping quiet than telling investigators what they want to know?
One can only guess.
When you join Bush's GOP, you take the Pledge of Omerta - and you keep it.

Michael, I did both an offer in compromise AND another proceedure in which I told them I disagreed with their assessments, as THEY had caused my problems in the first place. I was turned down for both, and now I am in 'uncollectable' status (bet you never heard that one, even my accountant hadn't)....and will have to go thru the proceedure of a financial examination. They will but a lien on everything I own in case I hit the lottery, I guess. And the interest will accumulate.

And today this happened: I am just telling this for the informational aspect: I was supposed to have lunch with an out of town genealogy cousin I had never met before, and she had to cancel because of illness...but we talked. And it turns out she (because of the illness) had to retire from her profession....which was bankruptcy lawyer. And she said she could NEVER in good conscience ever vote for a 'thug....and that the IRS IS POLITICAL....and if your aren't the right political stripe, you will be skewered and squeezed. While the fatties get away with it all. (She also said I had had nothing but bad advice for the last 20 years financially) Sort of goes along with the head of HUD denying a contractor a legally won contract because he confessed he hated Bush. (Lautenberg is demanding the man resign-that is ILLEGAL).

Ok want to really bend your brain... of course take Flocco with salt.

http://www.tomflocco.com/

May 10, 2006—TomFlocco.com—U.S. Intelligence to play “HARDBALL” with news media— In the wake of the burgeoning GOP prostitution and spy scandal sweeping through the Capitol beltway, federal agents are reportedly furious with cable TV hosts and analysts for lying to the American people and failing to report the truth about Bush administration corruption and criminal acts. Patriot agents are especially agitated about fixed cable TV polling data which purports to convince the American people that they are willing to submit to having their personal lives and information spied upon by Mr. Bush. Federal agents reportedly warned MSNBC host Chris Matthews and analysts Howard Fineman and John Fund, Fox News analyst Charles Krauthammer and Washington Post columnist David Ignatius regarding spinning the truth about the Bush administration, intimating that there is alleged evidence which could embarrass them. Other explosive revelations centered on New York Senator and Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton... READ MORE

The Money Pit: Diebold vs. America

by Denis Wright

Georgia was the first state in the nation to go 100% with electronic voting, thanks to Secretary of State Cathy Cox. This was a mantle she carried, and continues to carry, proudly. In fact, she's using it to bolster her run for Governor in 2006, and indeed she is currently the Democratic front runner.

But when you look at the facts Cathy Cox should be ashamed. She has failed the voters of Georgia. She has ensured that our elections are subject to fraud (1); she has knowingly allowed software that violates certification standards to be used in elections. (2) She has wasted huge amounts of taxpayer funds on an election system that is proven to be ineffective at best, a downright scam at worst. And she has hidden or lied about these problems, not only to the voters of Georgia, but also to the state legislature. (3)

A trail of Amendments

In May of 2002 the state signed a contract with Diebold to provide DRE (Direct Record Electronic) voting machines for the entire state at a cost of $54 million. In July of the same year the first Amendment to that contract was signed. It stated that:

• Diebold is to redesign the pre-election training for Georgia officials.

• Diebold is to create and prepare all election ballots for every county in Georgia.

• Diebold is to deliver and install the election database and memory card in every county on or before October 25, 2002.

Immediately, we can see that elections in Georgia have been entirely turned over to a private corporation, one with strong ties to the Republican Party. But it really gets interesting when we turn to later Amendments. Contract Amendments that were signed by Cathy Cox without any legislative oversight.

Despite this written contract, during the November elections there was massive failure of the voting machines which was later documented -- and admitted to, quietly -- by Cathy Cox herself. This information came to light in internal documents obtained through FOIA requests. To the press Ms. Cox consistently praised Diebold and admitted nothing. She even appeared in a promotional video and sales brochures for Diebold.

The second Amendment in December 2002 granted Diebold authority to test the GEMS software with Wyle Labs, certification due in January 2003. Wyle Labs is another privately owned enterprise. Diebold pays Wyle to conduct the tests and the results are made available only to their customer - Diebold. Cost to Georgia voters? $10,029,167.

Third Amendment: Certification has still not been accomplished. Paragraph three states that Federal Certification has not been received but a $1 million dollar payment is demanded, and paid.

August 25, 2003, Amendment Four: The state of Georgia requests three more GEMS servers at a cost of $51,459 which have not been certified and an additional $23,700 for Kennesaw State testing labs.

Amendment Five: is for a "Security Adjustment" for software glitches, to be obtained by April 29, 2005. Installation of the “security patch” is not to be completed until after the November 2004 election.

Amendment Six: The state bought an additional 955 AccuVote machines from Diebold costing $2.6 million dollars. They also extended their warranty with Diebold through December 2005 at a cost of $1.5 million.

No one in the Georgia legislature knew about any of these Amendments. They were not “in the loop”. There was no legislative oversight whatsoever.

A trail of money

Georgia has been told by Diebold that our three year old machines cannot be upgraded to produce a voter verified paper ballot. They recommend that Georgia "toss and buy new" machines if paper ballots are required. (4) At a huge additional cost, of course. Additionally, our "pilot program" to have paper ballots has dropped from three counties to merely three precincts, and even those will have only one machine with a printer. So this provides only three machines state-wide that can produce a paper ballot in a state that had a 14% undervote in the 2004 Democratic Primary (5) and Diebold is making the state rent these machines at astronomical costs.

We Georgians have already spent over $100 million on a voting system that has been proven over and over to be faulty, yet they want us to spent more. The $54 million dollar figure cited by Cathy Cox office is a lie. Given the costs of programming, ballot creation and new purchases the cost to Georgia voters exceeds $116 million dollars. And there is NO legislative oversight. Any public forums are shut down as soon as the questions start.

Dr. Brit Williams is the chief consultant from Kennesaw State University who performed the certification test on the Diebold touchscreen machines used for the state of Georgia. At the March 9, 2005 meeting of The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) Technical Guidelines Development Committee, Williams said "right now the primary use of wireless technology in a voting system is to program voting stations. Because if I have got 3,000 voting stations and I have to load those with pc cards, then I have got to sit down and manufacture 3,000 pc cards, and keep them separated by precinct. Whereas if I could sit in my warehouse and load those ballot images wirelessly, there is a tremendous advantage." (6)

Our vote is sacred -- the centrality of honest, transparent vote tallying to the necessary level of trust that underlies the basic contract between the people and their government. Who does Cathy Cox work for? The citizens of Georgia or the shareholders of Diebold? I personally think the answer is quite obvious.

Sources:

All Contract Amendments: http://www.countthevote.org/gacontract/list.htm

(1) http://www.countthevote.org/cynthia2005/list.htm

(2) http:///www.eac.gov/election_resources/vss.html

(3) http://www.countthevote.org/gacontract/list.htm

(4) Verbal testimony by Senator Stephens at SLOGO hearing

(5) http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/insider/1004a/102804.html

(6) http://vote.nist.gov/TGDC0309finalmin.pdf

Judy Gem: We get our info from different sources. I used to subscribe to your point of view.
TO ALL: People have been brainwashed to think liberal is some kind of leprosy, and when poor, or even middle-class people listen and quote Rush Limbaugh, that is truly pathetic. If you take a survey of middle-class and poor Americans, most of them back the liberal Social Security program. Seniors also support the liberal Medicare program, etc. Job benefits and a 40-hr. workweek, most people support that, how liberal. Before liberals fought for and won these benefits, employees had to endure dangerous workplace conditions, low wages, slavery-long hours, and still could not make ends meet. Even children had to go to work. So while most people claim to disdain liberals, they certainly enjoy the programs, freedoms and benefits that liberals created for them. The vote for minorities was secured by, you guessed it, liberals.
The freedoms that women now enjoy: My history teacher said that in the early 70's when she tried to open her own business, the phone company made her get permission from her husband in order to get a business phone number. Would a republican woman today put up with such nonsense? I doubt it.
Therefore, when nonliberals are willing to forego of their liberal social programs, employee benefits, pensions, etc. (which are quickly disappearing because of the right-wing), then and only then will they have the right to attack liberals like they do now. Otherwise, let Rush Limbaugh get them out of bankruptcy and provide them a safety net when they end up in the street because of sickness, loss of a job. etc.
Me, I'm not entirely liberal, but I care about humanity in general, so I fully recognize the good that liberals have done for this country.

Karen...I agree with you wholeheartedy in the above statement you made about getting past governments and religion...

Abilene...the astrodientist reading makes sense to me ....healing takes place on many levels. The strange thing is that they were both your clients (where in your chart does this take place?) and both passed at the same day and time. (approx)

On the Mayan calendar issue...Terrence McKenna and his brother (mathmetician) heard about 2012 back in the 1970's and they ran some figures based on a mathematical concept (Zero Time) and found that it is part of a fractal equation, or chaos equation....this has to do with fluctations in stability vibrations....these fluctations between stable and fluctuating (Novelty) have been speeding up for the last 30 years. It looks like a graph....and the spikes are getting shorter and closer together. On Dec 21, 2012, the chart will flatline. Google up McKenna or Novelty or Chaos or Zero Time and see what you get. It did give them both pause at the time. But it is only ONE of many math formulas which operate in our reality.

Sally, another good one! I'm all for the big wall around DC if John Conyers, Waxmen, etc get keys.

Cybear, back in 1999, a new-ager told me that privately Gore is really a practicing Buddhist, which I tend to believe.
Did you read his interview in WIRED zine this month, he talks a little about 2000 and turning his pain into something worth while.

Judi G, my NN is conjunct the GC (in 11th) and tPluto has been clearing my view in subtle, but FIRM, ways. As if Cosmic window washing my destiny so that I can't possibly ignore/avoid it anymore. No more introverted living or lifetimes spent alone (scholar, monk, hermit) got to go out and help the people!! I just want to catch on before I get the cosmic noogie.

BTW, I think everyone here would enjoy a book by Dr Mary Belknap titled "Homo Deva" with it's positive view of what humans are evolving into. Her descriptions of the terrible times nowadays are related to the hard labor pains before a birth. It's an intense read so far.

Little Moon...I also agree with you in what you wrote....women used to have to get permission from their husbands in the 1970's to get a credit card in their own names....luckily, I had always refused to marry....hahahahah!

We are all here way ahead of the curve of this populace (especially 6 years ago)....but even my daughter, who refused to let me express political views over the last 5 years, has confessed that she and her husband are so angry that they are breathing the "hope they're all assassinated' thought.

So, as happens in the business world where new ideas and merchandise start out as a boutique item andt hen as the ideas are accepted, move to specialy stores, and then on to department stores, and then into your Walmarts and discounters as they peak and decline, america is now pretty much at the specialty store level....more people are seeing the real deal going on....can't wait for the 75% off sale on this bunch.....

You know why I am upbeat? It is because I've been here before, 15 years ago....and this time I have much less to take .....

But I'm sure they wil find a way to make me suffer...! It will be my choice to allow the suffering.

some truly GOOD news...for US not HIM....
According to sources familiar with several grand jury probes overseen by Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald, Sensenbrenner is currently under federal investigation regarding links to indicted Republican lobbyist and Bush "pioneer" fundraiser Jack Abramoff who was employed by Saleh Kamel to lobby U.S. legislators to expand the reach and money flow of Islamic banks within the United States banking system.
READ MORE http://tomflocco.com/fs/Sensenbrenner.htm

Jill G....you know, that seems to be what is happening to me, too....I am suddenly able to read complex stuff I am also dealing with reupping my mom's MediCal benefits, and who do I get when I phoned our county MediCal office, but a woman who is beside herself to the point of saying 'come and get me' because she is so badly in debt...and considering bankrutcy. I told her the best feeling she will have is when she makes the call to an attorney....and that she will get her credit back within 2 years, so not to worry. Another social worker in debt, who would have thought? right.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bal-op.internet09may09,0,4559120.story

Proposed rule changes would tangle the Web By Michael Socolow
Originally published May 9, 2006

Congress wants to change the Internet.

excerpt;
This is news to most people because the major news media have not actively pursued the story. Yet both the House and Senate commerce committees are promoting new rules governing the manner by which most Americans receive the Web. Congressional passage of new rules is widely anticipated, as is President Bush’s signature. Once this happens, the Internet will change before your eyes.

Currently, your Internet provider does not voluntarily censor the Web as it enters your home. This levels the playing field between the tiniest blog and the most popular Web site.

Yet the big telecom companies want to alter this dynamic. AT&T and Verizon have publicly discussed their plans to divide the information superhighway into separate fast and slow lanes. Web sites and services willing to pay a toll will be channeled through the fast lane, while all others will be bottled up in the slower lanes. COPE, and similar telecom legislation offered in the Senate, does nothing to protect the consumer from this transformation of the Internet.

The telecoms are frustrated that commercial Web sites reap unlimited profits while those providing entry to your home for these companies are prevented from fully cashing in. If the new telecom regulations pass without safeguarding net neutrality, the big telecom companies will be able to prioritize the Web for you. They will be free to decide which Web sites get to your computer faster and which ones may take longer – or may not even show up at all.

By giving the telecoms the ability to harness your Web surfing, the government will empower them to shake down the most profitable Web companies. These companies will sell access to you, to Amazon.com, Travelocity.com and even BaltimoreSun.com, etc. What if these companies elect not to pay? Then, when you type in “amazon.com,” you might be redirected to barnesandnoble.com, or your lightning-quick DSL Internet service might suddenly move at horse-and-buggy speed.

It might appear that the direct ramifications of this bill are somewhat obscure. Why should you care, if your Internet fee isn’t altered? Or if your Web surfing will (possibly) be only minimally disrupted? (The telecoms understand that completely barring access to certain sites – especially the most popular ones – would be counterproductive.)

You should care because any corporate restriction on information gathering directly counters the original purpose of the World Wide Web.

no internet, no newspapers, no bird talk, no cat talk, no news just an uninformed populace wondering what happened.

judiGem, it seems that getting the attention of the IRS in any capacity is detrimental to your health. Many years ago, when I was married, one year they wrote us to tell us that upon review of our past records they found out they owed us money. My husband immediately got worried and it turns out he was right. Eventually they sent us a check which we deposited in our bank account. All was OK up to the time they sent us another check for the same amount. We talked to our IRS preparer who told us not to send it back because the best way to proceed was to let them catch up to their error. So we deposited it also.

Eventually they caught up to their mistake and notified us. But it wasn't enough that we could just return the dollar amount. They actually penalized us by charging us INTEREST!

My husband chose not to fight them hoping the problem would go away. Well it didn't. A few months later, in spite of the fact that we had sent the money back and had payed interest, they contacted us again to tell us they had sent us a check by mistake and that we should return the funds to them, with interest.

My husband threw his hands up in exasperation and sent them the money. So in the end and after a couple of years they had all their money back with interest. Including the money they owed us to begin with.

We were very grateful that it ended there.

I remember in the mid-70s, when I'd left a religious order & trying to get started in the "real" world, & needed a used car, the company wanted co-signature from my "hubbie," my dad or... my brother?!?!?!?! Hahahahahahahaaaa!!!

Why decide THEIR credit lives were good just because they were male?!? Why treat me as a po' widdle girlie in desperate need of manly paternal "guidance." 'Course, the other colors of people, too, have had to put up with the same indignities & injustices forever. Pink supremacist boy is actually the one in need of absolute permission & guidance... ie Iraq/Afghanistan as examples.

I saw a headline about Pelosi and the internet stuff...she is getting slammed about it....anyone know of a link?

AFL-CIO Action Alert: Tell Congress: Don't Extend Tax Breaks for the Rich. Call Your Rep with Toll-Free Number: 800-459-1887
http://www.buzzflash.com/alerts/06/05/ale06052.html

Joanna, I had a similar experience in late 70s when after a divorce my only child, then 7, and I went to Waco Texas so that I could get a law degree from Baylor... we needed a place to live, so I went into the bank and asked for a loan... the loan officer didn't even want to talk to me. Then I smiled, and suggested that my being a female was a problem for him... one which I could readily remedy by seeking help from Baylor's free legal services offered to students. He smiled (he was a Baylor grad, everyone in town was), reached in his drawer and took out the papers. My child and I got our house...

Cybear, very good point about the predictions applying to their region. That makes sense.

Joanna... it is so so important to see the dynamic and that dominating people is a two way street. In the human body, substances can't take hold unless their is a receptor. Same with societies. If they succumb to barbarism, then the seed of that behavior was already there. There is no male monolithic monster who is out to get people who don't desire to be gotten, although it is subconcious. You can argue this point ad infinitum, but the truth of how people are conquered demands a lot of study. There are weaknesses that create a vacuum that the strong move in to. If you constantly blame and fear the man, you can't escape the domination. There is no guarantee you can avoid it, but we have to try something. You can go over and over the list of their atrocities but that doesn't stop them.
Once you free youself of the fear of dominating men, you can experience an indescribable joy and feeling of self determination.

Karen

Your post was a joy. You said, "Fear prevents us from seeing the possibilities". This gave me goose bumps. I can't live without possibility and free will. That's my God. Infinite possibility and unpredictability.

From the historical perspective this is another reason why I think the shift has already come.
A common thread in most societies is the overwhelming fear of the universe and a feeling of being unprotected. So they project mythical powers onto their leaders in hopes that they can bring the divine closer and deal with it. Barter with it. Beg and plead. and Kill.
The leaders take advantage of this superstition and fear, and build upon it....Commies, Terrorists, Illuminati, Bilderbergers, etc. It is simple to gain control through this terror. It weakens in every respect. But they also feal the same fear so the cycle is endless. Our only hope is to find the seed of confidence and end the excessive fear. This seed is a hidden treasure that does exist if we keep searching consciously.

The reason I think the shift has come is because of Quantum Physics. For the first time this vast unknown is being approached not as a black area filled with dragons and monsters but as an interesting area filled with the joy of discovery. The scientista aren't afraid of alternate dimensions. They want to go further. It's probably the age old battle between religion and science, but science seems to be gaining ground, especially after the Pluto thru Sag. As we further develop an understanding of what's out there, and a good relationship comes with some logic involved, I think we might be less likely to give divine power to mortals who can't handle it. But it is entirely up to the individual. I think the universe is neutral and allows us to sculpt our lives the way we want to. Individual success is the start of social well being, and is certainly within that realm of possibility.

And of course, when a gal believes that her femaleness is a liability, her experience will reflect it. Throughout history, there have been women who didn't think this way. The only thing we can do is teach the girls coming up how to value thair character even through the gender battle.

And JO!!! Your story proves it! Thank you! Glad you are a resident of this earth.

"A House Committee voted for a mandatory cap on greenhouse gas emissions today, even with the Bush Administration still in denial on climate change".

jm... with all due respect... baloney.

And one senator said,

“Now the only two people left in Washington who refuse to recognize climate change as a real threat are former oil executives President Bush and Vice President Cheney. The rest of us insist on living in a reality-based society"

I'm honored. I never considered myself a realist. Been accused otherwise.

"I never considered myself a realist. Been accused otherwise."

Pretty much what I thot. Blessed Be. ;O)

Well then. How 'bout looking at it this way.

We live in a patriarchal society, which can't be changed right now. We have options.

1.We insist on feeling victimized with no power.
2.We join in the game and barter for position in ways acceptable to us.
3.We withraw from the game and let circumstance take it's course.
4. We build our strength and character just in case the time comes when gender domination ends.
5. We work diligently, patiently, and with optimism, transferring hate and rage into action to bring a more equitable gender control into government.

Must read---William Rivers Pitts tears into "Dick" Cohen......
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/050906R.shtml

"We live in a patriarchal society, which can't be changed right now."

Why not, jm? And who is the "patriarchy?" What group makes up the population of patriarchy? All other people & groups, such as women, "blacks" & native indians which, include in case anyone's forgotten males, are talked about with regular consistency... why isn't it okay to talk about the "mysterious" herd of white elephants in the livingroom?

"We insist on feeling victimized with no power."

Well... tell THAT to the ameriCO napalm-burning Iraqi child.

"We join in the game & barter for position in ways acceptable to us."

Insanity is doing the same old thing over & over again expecting different results. Nope... don't want to do that.

"We withraw from the game & let circumstance take it's course."

I'm no fan of games... gaming as a life skill stinks & is not honest.

"We build our strength & character just in case the time comes when gender domination ends."

I think its probably a good bet that evolving beings would be building such good character things whether or not there was gender domination... in fact, more so. But why is there gender domination? That's a perfectly good & legitamate question.

"We work diligently, patiently, & with optimism, transferring hate & rage into action to bring a more equitable gender control into govt."

That's a rt-wring conard, jm... accusing the other of "hate & rage" hoping to shut them up because they think themsleves nice people. How many more thousands of years are folks to wait for this "equitable gender control into govt?" ...a govt whose favorite method of control is violence... terrible extended real violence. Oh but... while I'm literally being raped to death while watching my family endure other tortures, heaven forbid I should experience the proper emotional response of "hate n' rage." Or that I should use that energy for my family's or my benefit. Now be quiet, like a good little girl, & admit you enjoy it. Isn't that what the mysogynist judge said? Yes, I do believe it is.

One of the reason I so enjoy being wiccan is that I'm not burdened by a light n' bright n' everything nice religion or metaphysical system or angels n' cherubs world. I can copt to & work with pluto. Poor pluto energies... always gettin' kicked into the deep dark cellar of bad names. ;O)

I appreciate the opportunity to talk more about this issue. Many thanks, jm.

Little Moon,
Maine has Master Gardener courses through the U of Maine Cooperative Extension. I took it 2 years ago. BUT, I've always been interested, because I knew the day was coming when we would need to grow our own!
I read a lot of the RODALE PRESS books, and when I sold the town house & bought the cabin in NJ I had a little space to experiment. It didn't hurt that I lived with a man who had a lawn service for several years, learned a lot from him.

http://www.farm-garden.com/thompson-morgan

http://www.mofga.org/
( Maine Organic Gardeners and Farmer's Association)
They have a Newsletter you can subscribe to.

Don't go to Rodale, they aren't what they used to be!
Seems to be all about Yuppie magazines, superficial health values now!
If you got an orange seed to grow that a good start!
Have fun!
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JudiG,
don't get too complacent about that "uncollectable status"! I was there! I only owed $500. originally, it grew to $1,000. I consulted a lawyer at an agency in Bangor, sure it was incorrect. It wasn't! Then they swooped in and levied my Property tax return from the state, . That's why I had to work at the library last year. to pay some of my property taxes..
Not a bad job but, I wanted to move forward with my art career before I get too old to draw!
I'm hoping the fact that I was able to declare Eric as an adult dependant child last year, thus being elegible for a return, will clean up the rest of it, with a little left over.
BUT I'm not holding my breath! They're such a bunch of crooks.
Speaking of crooks....Congress passed the tax cut bill!
Mary Cheney, is appearing on Larry King tonight. She has written a book.( tell all?)
PQ

Very nice piece, Garry... I'm passing it on.

...talks about why the "anger & rage." ;O)

Sent to me by a wise person...

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/050906R.shtml

An Open Letter to Richard Cohen
By William Rivers Pitt

Greetings! I was inspired to write you after reading your missive in today's Post regarding all the nasty emails you have received of late. Personally, I found Colbert's performance hilarious and timely, the kind of satirical backhand so desperately needed these days. I don't begrudge you your opinion that he wasn't funny, and I agree with your belief that it wasn't your opinion on his performance that motivated such an angry response.

It wasn't. You yourself nailed the reason: "Institution after institution failed America - the presidency, Congress and the press. They all endorsed a war to rid Iraq of what it did not have."

The fact that your Colbert commentary became the flint against this rock doesn't mean that Colbert, or your opinion of him, is to blame for the resulting firestorm. The fact is that people are angry - brain-boilingly, apoplectically, mind-bendingly so - at what has happened to this great country. I am, quite often, so angry that my hands shake. Yes, a former high school teacher from New England here, so filled with bile and rage that I sometimes don't recognize my face in the mirror.

You, sir, should not be asking why so many of your email friends are so angry. You should be asking why you yourself are not with them in their rage. I have admired a number of your articles over these last years, and know that you are no fool regarding our situation in Iraq and here at home. It isn't your grasp of the issues that concerns me, but the absence of outrage. Do you really care about the things you write about, or is all this merely grist for the mill that provides you a paycheck?

"I have seen this anger before," you wrote, "back in the Vietnam War era." No, sir, you have not.

You hearken back to rock-throwing days in Vietnam, and lament hatred and rage. But you do not see that those days are quaint by comparison given our current geopolitical situation. Johnson and Nixon, whatever else their faults may have been, were internationalists who understood the need for connection to the wider world. The war in Vietnam, barbaric as it was, did not inspire tens of thousands of Vietnamese to join martyr's brigades. It did not threaten to unleash chaos in a part of the world that holds the economic lifeblood of our whole existence. It did not threaten to shake loose nuclear weapons from quasi-rogue states like Pakistan.

You speak of the angry mob because you got slapped around via email, but your characterization of the anti-war crowd tells me you have not spent a single moment out in the streets with them. I have. I have covered dozens of protests, large and small, in cities all across this country before and after the invasion of Iraq. Millions upon millions of Americans participated in these, and never once, not one time, was a rock thrown.

More....must read

http://salon.com/opinion/blumenthal/2006/05/11/cia/

Killing the CIA

In Goss, Bush found the perfect hatchet man to take vengeance on a despised agency. Now Goss is gone, scandal looms -- and the CIA is ruined.

The moment that the destruction of the Central Intelligence Agency began can be pinpointed to a time, a place and even a memo. On Aug. 6, 2001, CIA director George Tenet presented to President Bush his presidential daily briefing, a startling document titled "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S." Bush did nothing, asked for no further briefings on the issue, and returned to cutting brush at his Crawford, Texas, compound.

In Bush's denial of responsibility after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, the search for scapegoats inevitably focused on the lapse in intelligence and therefore on the CIA, though it was the FBI whose egregious incompetence permitted the plotters to escape apprehension. Bush's intent to invade Iraq set up the battle royal that followed.

Tenet, an inveterate staff careerist held over from the Clinton administration, had ingratiated himself with the new White House tenant with salty stories, but it was in his eagerness to please Bush on Iraq that he ensured his tenure and made himself indispensable. At first, Tenet opposed including in the president's speech of October 2002 the disinformation that Iraq was seeking to build nuclear weaponry using yellowcake uranium Saddam Hussein supposedly sought to purchase in Niger, and the reference was knocked out. Yet, having already been discredited, the falsehood was inserted into the president's State of the Union address of January 2003, becoming the now infamous 16 words.

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Security issue kills domestic spying inquiry

NSA won’t grant Justice Department lawyers required security clearance

WASHINGTON - The government has abruptly ended an inquiry into the warrantless eavesdropping program because the National Security Agency refused to grant Justice Department lawyers the necessary security clearance to probe the matter.

The inquiry headed by the Justice Department’s Office of Professional Responsibility, or OPR, sent a fax to Rep. Maurice Hinchey, D-N.Y., on Wednesday saying they were closing their inquiry because without clearance their lawyers cannot examine Justice lawyers’ role in the program.

“We have been unable to make any meaningful progress in our investigation because OPR has been denied security clearances for access to information about the NSA program,” OPR counsel H. Marshall Jarrett wrote to Hinchey. Hinchey’s office shared the letter with The Associated Press.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12727867/from/RSS/

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/5/10/213549/944

Goddess calls us to see...

Ourselves as divine

Our bodies as sacred

The changing phases of our Lives as holy

Our assertion as healthy

Our anger as purifying

Our power to create, nurture, limit & destroy as the very Force that sustains all Life.

Starhawk
The Sacred Dance

JoannaOregon, This joke is for you!
A Christian Minister, a Rabbi, and a Pagan High Priestess…
As part of an Interfaith community project, a right wing Christian minister,
a Rabbi, and a Pagan priestess decided that in order to improve relations in
the community, they will go on a fishing trip together on a local pond.
They're out in the boat, and the Pagan priestess excuses herself to go to the
bathroom back on the shore. She gets out, walks across the water back to
shore, and then walks back across the water to the boat.

The Christian minister looks in amazement, crosses himself, and they continue
fishing. It comes on about noon time, and the Rabbi realizes they left their
lunches back on shore. So he gets up, walks across the water to the shore,
retrieves the lunches, and walks back across the water to the boat.

The Christian minister, now completely amazed, and a little bit righteous,
thinks, "not to be out done by two heathens, I can do that too!" So he gets
up, excuses himself to go to the bathroom, takes a step out of the boat and
promptly sinks to the bottom.

While he's flailing around in the water, the Rabbi looks at the priestess and
says, "Do you think we should have told him about the rocks?"

The Pagan priestess looks at the rabbi and replies, "Rocks? What rocks?"

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-05-10-nsa_x.htm?POE=NEWISVA

NSA has massive database of Americans' phone calls

The National Security Agency has been secretly collecting the phone call records of tens of millions of Americans, using data provided by AT&T, Verizon and BellSouth, people with direct knowledge of the arrangement told USA TODAY. The NSA program reaches into homes and businesses across the nation by amassing information about the calls of ordinary Americans — most of whom aren't suspected of any crime. This program does not involve the NSA listening to or recording conversations. But the spy agency is using the data to analyze calling patterns in an effort to detect terrorist activity, sources said in separate interviews.

"It's the largest database ever assembled in the world," said one person, who, like the others who agreed to talk about the NSA's activities, declined to be identified by name or affiliation. The agency's goal is "to create a database of every call ever made" within the nation's borders, this person added.

For the customers of these companies, it means that the government has detailed records of calls they made — across town or across the country — to family members, co-workers, business contacts and others.

The three telecommunications companies are working under contract with the NSA, which launched the program in 2001 shortly after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, the sources said. The program is aimed at identifying and tracking suspected terrorists, they said.

The sources would talk only under a guarantee of anonymity because the NSA program is secret.

Air Force Gen. Michael Hayden, nominated Monday by President Bush to become the director of the CIA, headed the NSA from March 1999 to April 2005. In that post, Hayden would have overseen the agency's domestic call-tracking program. Hayden declined to comment about the program.

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Good evening astroworld -- I have stumbled upon this blog many times in the past while doing a bit of astrological research -- and finally decided to begin posting comments to the excellent articles I have read here along with the thought provoking comments.

First -- I would like to say -- not only is a wall the answer to sealing in the DC political psychos but let's be ever so efficient and add a deep moat surrounding the wall -- filled with crocodiles and gators -- water moccassins and pirahnas -- lets they attempt to escape by tunnelling under the wall.

Second -- I have been studying Rove and Cheney's chart regarding this 22 degree Scorpio fixed T Square Full Moon -- and noted that: the FM will be conjunct to Cheney's Uranus in Taurus in the 9th house -- ruling special prosecutors/grand juries -- and his progressed Moon in Leo will be applying to a conjunction to his natal & progressed Pluto in Leo - whilst his progressed Mars in Aquarius closes in to oppose the above.
That ole' pacemaker combined with the heavily salted steak are about to short circuit on Cheney.
Rove's Pluto in Leo will form a Grand Fixed Square to the Full Moon T square w/ Neptune.

It looks as though their almost perfect crime and seamless deceptions will certainly unravel in a scandal that for all intents and purposes -- will go down in history as the NEO CON POLITICAL WAR CRIME OF THE NEW CENTURY. The scandal will cast such a wide net over DC -- that it may take years along with a bloody global revolution before the smoke clears.

Using the Sibley chart for the US -- Pluto has been stalking this nation's 1st house and T squaring our natal Mars Neptune square -- we are on the eve of self destruction -- and it is obvious that we the people know what the problems are -- but are at a total loss for dealing with the multifarious layers of political cancer in the system -- that the only way out is to bring about our own political self destruction -- perhaps with a military coup -- if the next election's in '06 prove to be as rigged as the last two were. CS

"not only is a wall the answer to sealing in the DC political psychos but let's be ever so efficient and add a deep moat surrounding the wall -- filled with crocodiles and gators -- water moccassins and pirahnas -- lets they attempt to escape by tunnelling under the wall."

(heheheheheh)

judiGem I feel for you - I guess the best option is to do a payment plan if you can afford it. It's not so much if you hit the lotto - but if you luck into a decent job down the line it can kill you - it feels like you are working for the IRS at that point. It might even be better to take a loan to pay off the IRS if you can - as a regular debt will aquire interest but never a "penalty". Talk to your accountant and see if you can figure out a plan.

http://www.unclefed.com/AuthorsRow/GretaHicks/col.html

My best to you...

Welcome Philomena and thanks for your comments. I so hope you are right about Cheney. He reminds me of the last Pope, every astrologer and psychic for years predicted his demise and he certainly had tons of aspects indicating that he could go, it became a joke in the astro community. We had to put him on the list of possibilities every year and we did, so we wouldn't be caught unaware.

We've all been looking for Cheney to have one slab of fat too many. But Lordy who would come behind him.

Can you just imagine "Rome" (Washington) unraveling, they will never get to the bottom of it all, but I agree with you that the scandal will be there. It's fascinating now how they all seem to be intertwined. Oddly, the Plame scandal seems to be standing by itself out there. The Abramoff, Cunningham, Rove scandal is widening from sea to shining sea. Noe of Ohio is changing his plea to guilty for illegal election activities in connection with the Bush team

http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060510/NEWS02/60510055

They act as if they don't care anymore what we know, there isn't anything that can be done to them. Them seem to be quite sure of that.

Sure sounds wonderfully sane & kind to me...

* Eric Francis | Excerpts from the Iranian President's Letter

Here are two excerpts from the letter of Iranian Pres Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to US "president" gwbush. The letter was translated by the news service Reuters (an English translation by the French newspaper Le Monde is also available). ...

Mr [rez],

Don't Latin Americans have the right to ask why their elected govt are being opposed & coup leaders supported? Or, Why must they constantly be threatened & live in fear?

The people of Africa are hard-working, creative & talented. They can play an important & valuable role in providing for the needs of humanity & contribute to its material & spiritual progress. Poverty & hardship in large parts of Africa are preventing this from happening. Don't they have the right to ask why their enormous wealth--incl minerals--is being looted, despite the fact that they need it more than others?

Again, do such actions correspond to the teachings of Christ & the tenets of human rights?

...

Mr [rez],

In countries around the world, citizens provide for the expenses of govts so that their govts in turn are able to serve them.

The question here is "what has the 100s of billions of dollars, spent every year to pay for the Iraqi campaign, produced for the citizens?"

As Your Excellency is aware, in some states of your country, people are living in poverty. Many 1000s are homeless & unemployment is a huge problem. Of course these problems exist--to a larger or lesser extent--in other countries as well. With these conditions in mind, can the gargantuan expenses of the campaign--paid from the public treasury--be explained & be consistent with the aforementioned principles?

What has been said, are some of the grievances of the people around the world, in our region & in your country. But my main contention--which I am hoping you will agree to some of it--is:

Those in power have a specific time in office & do not rule indefinitely, but their names will be recorded in history & will be consistently judged in the immediate & distant futures.

The people will scrutinize our presidencies. Did we manage to bring peace, security & prosperity for the people or insecurity & unemployment?

Did we intend to establish justice or just supported special interest groups, & by forcing many people to live in poverty & hardship made a few people rich & powerful--thus trading the approval of the people & the Almighty with theirs?

Did we defend the rights of the underprivileged or ignore them?

Did we defend the rights of all people around the world or imposed wars on them, interfered illegally in their affairs, est'd hellish prisons & incarcerated some of them?

Did we bring the world peace & security or raised the specter of intimidation & threats?

Did we tell the truth to our nation & others around the world or presented an inverted version of it?

Were we on the side of people or the occupiers & oppressors?

Did our adms set out to promote rational behavior, logic, ethics, peace, fulfilling obligations, justice, service to the people, prosperity, progress & respect for human dignity or the force of guns, intimidation, insecurity, disregard for the people, delaying the progress & excellence of other nations, & trample on people's rights?

And finally, they will judge us on whether we remained true to our oath of office--to serve the people, which is our main task, & the traditions of the prophets--or not?

Mr [rez],

How much longer can the world tolerate this situation?

Where will this trend lead the world to?

How long must the people of the world pay for the incorrect decisions of some rulers? ... http://planetwaves.net/

* Putin lashes out at 'wolf-like' America

Response to cheney attack feeds war of words
US 'eats & listens to no one', warns president

Relations between the US & Russia sank to the lowest point in a decade yesterday when Vladimir Putin harshly rebuked Wash for its criticism last week & compared the US to a hungry wolf that "eats & listens to no one". ... http://www.guardian.co.uk/russia/article/0,,1772175,00.html

What a lunation!
My Scorpio rising neighbor is going away for a week and asked me to feed her cat and scoop her cat's crap. Charming. Sounds like a fun week. What a Moon will do.

I think they really are walled up in their castle of horrors. Under the Scorpio Moon it's like a E.A. Poe story with the walls closing in. And Cheney's grinding mechanical tell-tale heart. Oh me.

Mark, you're such a smart alec....HeHeHe
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0510-32.htm

Does anyone on this blog have a verifiable time of birth for "turd blossom" aka Karl Rove? MSNBC reported this morning that we should expect to hear whether Fitzpatrick will announce more indictments by this weekend -- coinciding with the Scorpio FM T Square to Neptune. The DC chart for the FM has 2-3 degrees of Aries on the Ascendant --and Cheney's South Node will be conjunct the DC FM Aries ASC.
Philomena

And behind it all are the banks, number one is the Federal Reserve.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1154952

I am speculating here on Rove's Asc -- but wouldn't it be interesting if it turned out that his Asc is Cancer -- and conjunct to either Bush's Sun or Saturn in Cancer -- placing Rove's Asc in Bush's 12 house of secrets and behind the scenes manipulation -- and repectively placing Bush's Leo's Asc in Rove's 1st -- where he can use his personal power to shape and shift (manipulate) Bush's image -- and fullfill the nuturing Cancerian role of a being the power behind the thrown and Bush's "King Maker".

I am going to rectify Rove's chart for these two possible Cancerian degrees on the Asc -- and will report my findings shortly.
Philomena aka Celestial Shamanka

opps correction -- I meant to write "Fitzgerald" -- not Fitzpatrick...pardon moi.

opps correction -- I meant to write "Fitzgerald" -- not Fitzpatrick...pardon moi.

Well well well every one of our calls has been logged by the NSA since 9/11 'ish..

Wow and hard on the heels of that every man with a mistress should tremble.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060511/pl_nm/security_usa_phonecalls1_dc_1

Search that database would be a piece of cake for any halfassed investigator.

Betcha the government sells it to the telemarketers too.

Karl Rove: Dec. 12, 1950, Denver Colorado, 4:14 am MST.

Philomena(beautiful s/n, by the way!), per Goldensilence's birth data, his rising sign is Scorpio, which suits him to a "T":

http://www.astro.com/cgi/aclch.cgi?btyp=ack&&cid=2iefileq9MdzO-u1141396413&nhor=3

philomena, good observations! I've had a recurring thought that there might be a military coup. My worry is who would they be supporting when they do it? If they take all the big players into custody (the whole administration, including Rummy of course) what happens next? Interesting food for thought.

Sally, it seems the corruption is so widespread that it has tentacles in every corner of the planet, but I think the big players are really quite few. That is, that we could count them as less than 700 people on the planet. Without key people the structure would fall apart. For example, just going after the top people in the corporations would take out the 'brains' of the beast. And I hope their seeming not to care is only an act. We need to remind ourselves of how supremely self-confident they were about the Iraq war. That starting falling apart as soon as the war started (munitions were left unguarded and are now being used against us and each other).

About Putin calling Cheney and the US the 'wolf'. He must know that would flatter the hell out of Cheney. He must be really snarling now. Probably in front of a mirror so he can vainly admire himself. Cheney so longs for those days of the Cold War which were his comfort zone. They were his shrivelled soul's Golden Age.

Morgana, so now that we are all in the NSA database we can all think of times when we made or received confidential calls from our friends and families. Those 900 numbers are no longer private and crank calls are no longer anonymous. I'll betcha this'll create a billion dollar cottage industry of scrambling and encription devices. But one thing it'll do for sure is get the terrorists and criminals to do business another way. NSA will be left with millions of completely benign calls while the criminals find another way. Who're the idiots now? Baby...bath water...and...shoot...nose...spite...face

Goldensilence, some of my 'conspiracy' sites are suggesting that some military leaders are thinking about just that, a coup. If you'd like to read some examples, I could dig them up.

Here is an astrological prediction I made on Nov. 1st, 2005 listed on another astrology board regarding the 2005 New Moon in Scorpio -- and its culmination to this FM in Scorpio on May 13, 2006.
snip
“celestial_shamanka"
Date: Tue Nov 1, 2005 1:17 pm
Subject: New Moon in Scorpio and the Bush Cheney Power Struggle

The Bush - Cheney tower of power is about to take a mega kilowatt hard hit
commencing with the NM in 9 Scorpio 43 -as both natal charts will receive their
long over due Saturn reality bitchslaps.

Transit Saturn 10 + Leo is smack dab on Bush's Natal Mercury/Pluto conjunction
in Leo and simultaneously opposing Cheney's Aquarius Sun 10 + -- triggering a behind the scenes power struggle between these two equally demonic political power brokers.

The NM in Scorpio falls in Bush's 4th house -- and squares his Natal Merc/Pluto = 2nd Secret Grand Jury will be reviewing a very diabolical plan to *cover up* his direct link to Cheney authorizing the *outing* of Valerie Plame, so as to short circuit a CIA investigation into the identity of the WH team behind the forged Niger documents.

The NM in Scorpio falls in Cheney's 3rd house of memo/documents, etc. Cheney's
natal Saturn in Taurus is in the 9th house of foreign affairs -- (the documents originally surfaced in Italy) -- and the transit of Saturn through his sun ruled 12th house is now in 180 opposition to his 6th house Sun -- it appears that it will be someone deeply embedded in the CIA who will come forward and give the FBI tangible evidence of the identities behind the forged documents -- passed from within the CIA directly to Cheney -- to be passed to Bush prior to the run
up invasion of Iraq.

We will not hear about these Fitzgerald/Special Prosecutor criminal findings -- until early Feb. 2006 -- when Mars in Taurus transits Cheney's Uranus in the 9th while Transiting Uranus in Pisces makes its last opposition to Bush's Mars in Virgo -- Moreover, Bush's progressed Sun is 10 Virgo -- and the direct recipient of a full time Uranus outing -- that will immediately commence impeachment proceedings against Bush & Cheney, respectively.

Cheney's progressed Moon will change signs and go into Leo in March, 2006 -- and then proceed to conjunct his Natal/Progressed Pluto in 3 Leo.

The Full Moon in the 24th degree +Leo/ Aquarius in mid Feb will conjunct
Cheney's natal Mercury -- 24 Aquarius and square his natal and progressed Uranus in the 9th house -- He will be EXPOSED as the Machiavellian criminal mind who acted behind the scenes as the master manipulator in the Iraq invasion and Bush's real puppet master -- who is finally back stabbed by Rove -- in a vain attempt to save Bush from the ultimate impeachment crime of conspiracy to commit high treason.

More to come.....CS”
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Ok -- it was revealed by Fitzgerald in Feb - 2006 that Cheney did in fact authorize Libby to reveal Plames’ identity to the media vis a vis a verbal declassification of top secret documents -- and by passing the procedural process required for declassification of top secret docs -- in other words -- Bush was acting in direct violation of the procedural process required by his own executive order when he signaled to Cheney that is was OK to send Libby to meet with select government shill reporters and spin the Iraq WMD National Intelligence Estimates in an attempt to discredit Wilson's Niger trip in favor of the White House's policy. Cheney’s verbal declassification of the NIE occurred 10 days prior to the recorded date (July 18th) when the declassification was deemed “official”.

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Cheney's natal/progressed charts along with his radix Mercury Uranus fixed square will be taking a few more direct hits during this Scorpio FM - and in reviewing Rove's chart -- it appears that he may have rolled over for Fitzgerald (the Uranus trine Uranus) and fingered Cheney as the sole mastermind behind the Plame outing in the hope of avoiding more criminal counts added to the already anticipated indictment. Pluto will be doing a tap dance on Chiron 26 Sag in Rove's chart -- and it is pretty obvious he is "mortally wounded" in action and facing a similar bill of indictment as was handed down to Libby -- perjury and obstruction of justice. The fixed Scorpio FM T square involving Neptune in Aquarius to Rove's Pluto in Leo whilst transiting Pluto conjuncts his Chiron in Sag indicates that he has little choice or power within this (WH group) to continue to perpetrate massive media deception to cover up their collective treasonous acts -- Nor is he in the pivotal or credible position to manipulate the public's perception and deny that crimes of *high treason* were committed. Will W be spared the public humiliation when Rove goes out in flames? Maybe for now –but not much longer – I see impeachment proceedings commencing after the ‘06 elections in early ‘07 – right about the time transiting Saturn hits the 20's in Leo during a retrograde conjunction back over Bush’s Venus in Leo – forcing him to resign, perhaps – (like Nixon) - that will be triggered by the Total Full Moon Eclipse on March 3rd, 2007 in Virgo 13 that will conjunct Bush’s progressed Sun in Virgo (and simultaneously during the eclipse Saturn in Leo and Neptune in Aquarius are in opposition). This is about the same time frame that Libby’s GJ prosecution will go to trial – too.

Saturn in Leo is now making its final crossing over Bush's Leo ascendant as Rove’s criminal follies are currently playing out -- adding to Bush’s Saturn troubles is the fact that transiting Mars in Leo will conjunct Saturn in Leo and transiting Jupiter in Scorpio will square the Saturn Mars conjunction that will be sitting on his Mercury Pluto Venus stellium in Leo in mid June - 2006. Bush has a very weak natal Saturn placement to begin with -- and in spite of Neptune in 19 Aquarius forming a grand trine to his natal Uranus - Jupiter air trine -- I doubt if he will survive the Saturn placement "12th house" reality of being his own worst enemy in the end -- especially with surrogate mama Rove is handed his bill of indictment and banished from the White House.
The only other distraction that these perverse war criminals can conjure up will be to attack Iran or set up another false flag attack on US soil – blame Iran – suspend the constitution and declare martial law!
Blessed are the peacemakers. CS

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Garry, yes, I'm open minded about anything and everything and have the capacity to wait and see what turns out to be fact and what becomes fiction. Besides yesterday's conspiracies seem to be today's facts lately.

Thank you for the Federal Reserve link Sally. I passed it along.

DENNIS, what a fine person you are! Blessings to you.

Thanks Morgana & Garry for the Rove data -- I am off to set the chart up - progress it to the 13th and apply the FM transits. I'll run his solar and lunar returns, as well.
Good work!! Blessings, CS /Philomena

go vote at MSNBC on the telephone call database--you'll like the results(and here's a tip of the hat to our dear absent SHYLURKER!):

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12738454/

Thanks Goldensilence :) My eyesight is going on me..lol. I see you are the one who posted Rove's time of birth. Blessings, CS / Philomena

As a verifiable birthtime for Rove was asked for I would like to know Goldensilence's source.

I use the same time. My source was Zayin Cohen via Penelope. Using this time I thought Rove would be indicted on May 5 or 6 but he was not. Instead something happened regarding his 5th appearance before the Grand Jury. Now it looks to me like he will probably be indicted around June 6 through the 8.

The 4:14 AM, MST, for Rove gives a square in right ascension to the ascendant of 140 degrees, 48 minutes, putting Saturn and Neptune on Aug 29 both square to that ascendant with Saturn upper square at 140 degrees, 25 minutes and Neptune lower square at 320 degrees, 25 minutes of right ascension.

On the same date Pluto goes stationary direct conjunct the Inaugural 2005 Pluto, the March 29 SE MC in NY, Sibly Neptune, and square the secondary progressed Sun from 9-11 while transit Mars agitates all of those charts also over a period of days.

I have wondered if things will be so bad for Bush through June and July that he reveals a full blown psychosis at that time. Many of you know that I have picked the late August, early September, period of time as the downfall or seminal period of time for the downfall of this administration.

This administration's inner circle will take many adverse hits during June, July, and August, of this year but with this secretive, lying bunch we will probably not get much of it until after the fact.

On another note the delay of the 700 ton bomb detonation in Nevada is not good astrologicaly, perhaps more on that later.

Walter Winch...er, bob

The time I am referring to for Bush's mental collapse is late Aug, early Sep.

Walt, Oh shucks, bob

bob,

My source was also Penelope. Wherever she is. I haven't seen her post anything for months.

Pluto will station square, not conjunct, Sibly Neptune in right ascension on Aug 29.

I am having transit Saturn just past a conjunction to natal Pluto, a square to natal Saturn (both May 1), and coming to an opposition of natal Sun (May 15), so why am I saying anything?

I believe we can do some of our most rewarding work during difficult transits if we can maintain a positive attitude. I have had some dificult times and disappointments so far, and decided to retire, but nothing catastrophic .

Walter,...bob... no wait!...jan61108

May 11, 2006
Op-Ed Columnist
Where's the Beef?

By BOB HERBERT

"You can't think and hit at the same time." — Yogi Berra

"One must be something, in order to do something."

— Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

Enough already with the analyses ad nauseam of the strategies and tactics and philosophies that the Democratic Party should pursue to regain power in upcoming elections.

We've been listening to this armchair chatter for years: The Democrats need new ideas. They need big ideas. They need to move to the center. They need to wave the flag. They need to go to church. They need the soccer moms and the Nascar dads. They need to run from the blacks. They need to run from the gays.

I have no more patience with this perennially pathetic patient, this terminally timid Democrat who continues to lie cowering and trembling on the analyst's couch, wondering why the Demolition Derby Republicans control virtually all of the levers of power in the United States.

The Democrats are thinking too much and doing too little. This is a party in need of a moxie transplant. It's time for the patient to climb off the couch, walk outside and mix it up with the gang that has made a complete and utter mess of the country that was entrusted to it.

The polls tell us that the G.O.P. is ready to be routed. President Bush's approval ratings are at the lowest levels of his presidency. The war with Iraq is now widely — and properly — viewed as a disaster. Respondents to the latest New York Times/CBS News Poll said they believed the Democrats would do a better job on nearly all of the major issues facing the country.

Now would be an excellent time for Democrats to pounce, to show genuine leadership. This is not the time for yet another round of thumb-sucking, for more mind-numbing nonsense about narratives and framing, for more abstract talk about how to define the party. The public needs to know what you plan to do about the war. What's your energy policy? How should we deal with Iran?

What the Democrats need more than anything, with midterms coming up in the fall and a presidential election two years later, are personable candidates of strong character who have at least some measure of political courage and are willing to stand up for what they truly believe. This is the stuff that leaders are made of.

In 1948, when Harry Truman had already been dismissed by the political geniuses as a certain loser, he got on a train and took his case to the American people. Truman told his sister: "It will be the greatest campaign any president ever made. Win, lose or draw, people will know where I stand and a record will be made for future action by the Democratic Party."

There are no Trumans in sight in this Democratic Party. Democratic candidates and potential candidates are still agonizing with their analysts over exactly what to say about this issue or that. (They're trying to figure out ways to talk about the war, for example, that will offend neither hawks nor doves.) What's almost funny is that the patient has been doing this for years, and keeps losing election after election.

Why not try something new and liberating, like the truth? Forget the theorizing and strategizing. Tell the truth about what's happening now. Let the electorate know how much the Iraq war is really costing — in human treasure, loss of influence around the world, increases in gasoline prices and cold, hard cash. Tell the truth about the monstrous buildup of state power by the Bush crowd, which has undermined the freedom and privacy of innocent people here at home, and angered many conservatives.

Talk straight about the unconscionable assault on working people in the United States.

I remember all the chatter about moral values after the last presidential election, and how the Democrats would have to pump their values up if they were ever to win again. I never bought it. The Democrats didn't lose the last time around because they lacked virtue. They lost because John Kerry was a lousy candidate.

If the Democrats don't know what they believe in yet — if they're still figuring that out — they don't deserve to win. Politicians are supposed to lead, and the U.S. has seldom been in more desperate need of leadership than now.

It's time to climb off the couch, Democrats, present yourselves to the public, and take a stand. If you're personable, and possessed of just a little bit of courage, you're halfway home.

Copyright 2006 The New York Times Company

wv, thanks for the Bob Herbert article, but it's not that the Democrats are on the couch. They are also sick to their rotten core with the disease of corruption. They only appear to be timid.

They're doing as good a snow job on the public as the neo-cons. They prefer to be seen as timid rather than as what they are, corrupt corporatists. That's why they hold their breath hoping the Republicans lose the House and Senate on their own. That way they can take over without ever having made any promises. It could end up just being another round in the enless circular two party swap play. At least that's probably what they are hoping for.

But there is always the possibility that a true leader will come along to destroy the status quo. If he/she does come along we shouldn't expect it to be quick or easy. If the needed revolution doesn't happen now it will happen later, but it will happen.

Voice of the White House May 8, 2006

TBR News.org – May 8, 2006

“The October Surprise issue is still with us. No one in power here in Washington wants to get too close to it but there have been tentative approaches at Very High Levels to the Israelis to “help their friends out.” This would be an act of insanity. Israel is already blackmailing the Bush people over the fact that they personally warned the Bush people, and the DoD, and the CIA, and the State Department of the exact date and targets of the 9/11 attacks. Since the Bush people, especially the evil Rove, wanted it to happen for political reasons, they did nothing. Think of the fun if that became public! My informant tells me that the Israelis are more than capable of setting off an Atomic Firecracker wherever they are asked to and later, they are more than capable of using this knowledge (they apparently clandestinely tape high level staff talks) to get the US to nuke Iran for them. Quid pro quo after all.

And here is some interesting information on Rumsfeld’s war against the United States in general and the CIA in specific.

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=4487

Here's a post I lifted from DU. It's very sobering. If the NSA database doesn't make everyone nervous then they're not paying attention. We ALL have plenty to be afraid of:

"You consider yourself a good American. You consider yourself a patriot.
You support the president* , and believe he is helping to keep you and your family safe by fighting the terrorists.
The president* says he needs to tap your phone and gather your personal information to fight the war on terror.
You think you have have nothing to hide.

*You go to the Right church,
*You never criticize the government
*You pay your taxes
*You always vote The Right Way
*You "Support the Troops"
*You NEVER talk to terrorists on the phone
*You believe that the President is above the Law

All-in-All, you consider yourself to be "A Good American". You have nothing to hide, and the government is welcome to read your mail, listen to your phone conversations, and keep a secret file on you.

Have you ever wondered how things get in your secret file?
The government now has an incredible capacity for collecting and cross indexing vast amounts of data on individuals. Most of this data is unverified and simply gets put in the file.
You will NEVER see the file.
You will NEVER have the opportunity to correct the file.
You will NEVER know what is in the file.

You may be in control of your life, but what about the things you can't control?

*What about your wacky uncle who attends protests? He has the same last name as you!
Simply having the same last name got people removed from the voting rolls in Florida in 2000.

*You have a bad sheep kid who got in trouble in school? Nothing serious, boys will be boys?
How will that be written up in YOUR file?

*What about your niece who had an abortion? You didn't even know about it.
YOU vote Pro-Life, but your niece's abortion can turn up in YOUR file.

*Remember that time you accidentally got stopped for speeding , and you were a little sharp with the officer?
That's going to look good in YOUR file.

*You know that "Fringe Hippie Liberal" that lives down the block?
Do you know that he filed a report on you that states that you have a Che poster in your garage, and that you secretly collect money to fund Leftist groups in South America.
Sure its not true, but it DOES go in YOUR file.

and YOU won't be able to do a fucking thing about it....in fact, you won't even know about it!
ALL you will know is that LIFE will be harder for YOU AND YOUR FAMILY!!!

*Your son or daughter didn't get that scholarship?
*Your son or daughter wasn't admitted to that school?
*You are denied that research grant?
*You were refused a zoning permit?
*Your company was refused a government contract?
*You were repeatedly audited by the IRS?
*You were passed over for that promotion?
* You were refused the loan for the new house in that exclusive neighborhood?
*The HardDrive from your computer disappears one afternoon?
*You LOST a lawsuit that was a sure win?
*You are denied travel on an airline?
*You are denied accommodations when traveling?
*You were temporarily arrested for walking too close to a Security Zone.

These things AND MORE can happen when a Political Party controls the governmental database!!!!

A centralized governmental database will be ETERNALLY HUNGRY. It will GROW automatically. Those whose lives are about feeding the monster will AUTOMATICALLY find MORE to feed it. Your Party affiliation, your campaign contributions, your religious preference, your favorite TV shows, your medical records, the mistakes other people make, the lies other people tell,....AND MORE WILL find its way into this database....AND a ONE PARTY government WILL USE IT to make sure that only the right kind of people do well in America!!!

Are you a GOOD American?
Do you REALLY have no problem with the government spying on you?
Do you REALLY think secret government files on citizens is a GOOD idea?

You think the above won't ever happen here???
You are wrong.
People are already being pulled out of line,
and refused seat on airlines after checking a central database!!!
people are being refused admission to Security Zones based on the secret database!!!
AND it is getting worse.

but you have nothing to hide!!!

I may be filing a secret anonymous report on YOU this afternoon.
It will be filled with LIES,
but YOU won't EVER KNOW!

Uranium’s Effect On DNA Established

Science A-Go-Go – May 7, 2006

The use of depleted uranium in munitions and weaponry is likely to come under intense scrutiny now that new research that found that uranium can bind to human DNA. The finding will likely have far-reaching implications for returned soldiers, civilians living in what were once war-zones and people who might live near uranium mines or processing facilities.

Uranium - when manifested as a radioactive metal - has profound and debilitating effects on human DNA. These radioactive effects have been well understood for decades, but there has been considerable debate and little agreement concerning the possible health risks associated with low-grade uranium ore (yellowcake) and depleted uranium.

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=4490

It is precisely for all the points made in your post -- that I use the Sibley chart exclusively for the US -- Pluto was conjunct the Sibley Asc on 9/11 and neo fascism strom trooped out of the US's closet to take over the US national identity (prior to that -- Pluto had been in the 12th house -- while the neo con Strassians were plotting and planting the political seeds for the perfect government coup all along "behind the scenes" during the Reagan administration). We have not had a two party system for decades -- the Dems are just as dangerous and corrupted as the GOP. Just two hands working for the same global masters.

Moreover -- sealing the US's fate was the recent Total Eclipse in Aries in the US's 4th house of the people. We have been totally eclipsed as a voice of the people -- and nothing short of a bloody revolution will get us back on track. We are at the point of no return as a democracy -- and it would not surprise me in the least -- if China and Russia have form a secret alliance to attack us -- should we dare invade Iran in the near future.
Philomena

Dennis...thank you for the information....I have already been in the offer in compromise, and I was turned down. I also believe I am on the 'list' in terms of being leaned on. I have been given bad advice and I have been dropped thu the cracks for 20 years. The IRS gentleman who turned me down for the Offer told me to apply for 'uncollectable' status. The IRS is never wrong, is it? Even though what they told me was wrong and harmful, they 'follow rules' ....so now, I must go thru this uncollectable financial thing. I am doing this step by step....the aspect I am under ends in late May, so I am hoping that since there is a 6 week period I will deal with, ending in 3rd week of June, that I will call and do the paperwork after the end of this Saturn/Pluto conjunction at 5 Leo (my natal Pluto).

I will have to figure out what day and time will be best....Judi

Philomena,
Right right, and that was the gist of Putin's remarks, unintended consequences.

Philomena, so glad you are posting....you have burst upon the scene here in good time! much appreciated...

Joanna...when I was about 9, living in Hawaii, I started telling people I was a Druid. We must have known each other then...

It was April 6, not May 6, when I thought Rove would be indicted as I stated in an email to Sally. It was Libby's testimony on April 6 that probably precipitated a restructuring of Rove's April 26 testimony to the Grand Jury.

The overload of looking at charts for Bush, Cheney, Iraq, Iran, etc. caused me to mistate the date which had slipped my mind. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

bob

Hillary loses her shine
She may breeze the Democrat nominations, but winning the White House will be a more difficult task. The one-time favourite of American liberals, Hillary Clinton, is fast losing supporters, says Paul Harris

Thursday May 11, 2006

Guardian Unlimited

They should have been dyed-in-the-wool Hillary Clinton supporters. Two New Yorkers (and irascible ladies of a certain age) whose liberal credentials were impeccable. Abby and Cathy were pro-choice, anti-war and pro-environment. Complete Blue Staters. They bore the sort of passionate dislike for President George W. Bush that is more commonly heard around European dinner tables.
But sitting at a restaurant in Greenwich Village it was not America's 43rd president that was the subject of their scorn. It was Hillary Clinton, one time darling of American liberalism and hot favourite to be the Democrats' presidential pick for 2008. That does not impress Abby and Cathy. They can't stand Hillary any more.

They see her as unprincipled and untrustworthy (ironically echoing many of Bill Clinton's brutal right wing critics in the 90s). In particular they attack her for supporting the war in Iraq. 'I am just so angry at her,' Cathy said, with such vehemence she could barely contain herself.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/print/0,,329477232-111336,00.html

I have very serious doubts that Putin does anything that brings unintended consequences. He is quite aware that calling Cheney and the Bush administration 'The Wolf' would flatter them immensely. Putin is hoping the US does something stupid and that's why he's goading us. He intends to restore Russia to its former glory - to the days when his organization, the KGB, ruled.

Yeh....Hillary will lose the liberals for sure....what she is counting on is the fact that she is trying to get voters in the middle. Which is much bigger than we might suspect. AND she is getting corporations help because she is going to work with them, forging the same coalitions that Bill forged back in Arkansas (with Sam Walton, before Walmart was the 800 lb gorrilla it is now - read his autobiography, it is all in there)....she is going for the middle, as did Bill. Abby and Cathy won't be giving much money so it probably won't matter.

But what she has done and said on other matters like right to choose is more worrisome...because it smacks of pandering. Maybe that is an occupational hazard with pols.

Baby buffalo believed to be good luck charm
Paola Farer Web Producer

Created: 5/8/2006 3:14 PM MST - Updated: 5/8/2006 3:34 PM MST

EVERGREEN - In 40 years, ranchers at the Big E Game ranch say they've never received such a special delivery.

Big E Game Ranch

Evergreen Memorial Park

It's the first white buffalo calf ever born on the ranch, which doubles as a wild game preserve.

Out of 50 head, the ranch now has three white buffalos. Some Native American tribes believe the white buffalo is a sign of good things to come.

The ranch purchased two white Buffalo cows from the White Elk Ranch in Gunnison last March.

White buffalos can fetch up to 10 times the average price of the more common brown buffalo.

The calf's father died last winter making this baby buffalo the last generation to come from the prized bull.

"It's been a tough winter and it's a promise of a great summer with the calves being born, but not only the calves but a white calf," says Ronald Lewis, with Big E Game Ranch.

Lewis says he still hasn't been able to get close enough to the calf, but he feels certain it's a bull, which is even more rare.

(Copyright by KUSA-TV, All Rights Reserved)

Golden Silence, I heard Pelosi talking about the 'silence of the Dems"....what they did instead (I posted the item last thread I think) BECAUSE they were totally unable to get any news coverage for any aspect of the agenda over the last 5 years, is go to town hall meetings at a grass roots level. Those don't get publicized....I think the grass roots angle works no matter who is doing it (the religious right takeover of schools in Kansas, even CA - San Diego area - was done this way....under the radar...run locally, hold meetings locally...all politics is local, as Big Dawg has always said and acted on.

Here's one view....

The Truth Behind the Da Vinci Code

Date: Thursday, May 04 @ 06:56:44 CDT
Topic: Alternative History

The Secret Code - The Truth Behind the Da Vinci Code

by Philip Gardiner, best selling author of The Shining Ones, The Serpent Grail, Proof - Does God Exist? and Gnosis: The Secret of Solomon’s Temple Revealed, also member of The Book of THoTH Website.

The Da Vinci Code and the madness that surrounds it is indicative of one thing – the fact that in the 21st century mankind is still in the dark about a great many things.

We may have sent rockets into space; we may be able to develop nano-technology and we can even heat up food with micro-wave radiation, but we are still no closer to the truth about our own religions and the secretive organisations that surround them.

The most powerful of them all is of course the Catholic Church and it is this Empire building religion that lies at the heart of the book. To begin with we do need to take a look at the claims made in the Da Vinci Code in relationship to the Holy Grail in-order to understand what the reality of the matter really is.

http://www.book-of-thoth.com/article-print-1529.html

About Hillary as Prez., just thinking about the daily vicious, vituperative attacks from the right that would be heaped on Hillary's and our heads deflates me of energy like a balloon zipping and screeching around a room ending up a limp dead thing on the floor. The last 14 years have been such an unrelenting and desperate fight that I think I just couldn't take it anymore.

We truly need someone who is either not a business as usual leader or who can become one for love of country.

Bob, eerrr...Walter Winchell...that Aug 29 time frame is the first anniversary of Katrina landfall.....

I can imagine the pressure will be intense with these aspects.....

Philomena, I believe that revolution is good every 250 years or so....wait....isnt't that the Pluto transit? hahahah.....but seriously, it maybe that revolution is what is always needed to clear decks of the past.

What survives the deck clearing is the stuff that we we'll be working on the next 250....

I have to also meniton this, which surprised me this morning....there was something (was it Bob's?) posted on the 'disconnection' people are feeling emotionally....I got this from my friend in Ohio who just had major surgery (gall bladder) and is now experiencing all sorts of things:
Maybe I need a B12 shot or something.
Do you ever get that way over things that should excite action? it's an odd thing that's just started happening,
I usually have a devouring appetite for things but sometimes I just lose interest in all things. I think the Bush administration
has removed participation in our affairs or something and it's created a malaise of some kind, or maybe it's classic mid life
awareness within myself. I don't know, but I'm feeling disconnected in the last week or so. Maybe I'm still drugged up and don't
know it.

He also sent me the connection to the Israeli article which has raised such a ruckus...and apparently, the article was supposed to be printed in the Atlantic Monthly, but the editors got cold feet...so it is in the London REview: file:///Users/judithwood/Library/Mail%20Downloads/LRB%20%20John%20Mearsheimer%20and%20Stephen%20Walt%20%20The%20Israel%20Lobby.htm

You have to account for bluff in this international game, like in the latest Putin/Cheney nonsense. That's part of their power lust...the performance and the reaction of the crowd. The constant high drama is a technique used to keep everone cornered, trapped and scared. Unable to act just waiting for the next move. Most of it is phoney. And most everyone is a sucker. They do this to keep their skills honed and to prove once again how easily duped the public is. It's mega thrilling to them, and probably to the crowd as well.
Reflect when you can on how much of this idea of demolition of our democracy is theatrical and designed to keep you all down. Judi is right. Government is continuing on lower levels. It has to. There is always a safety net, believe it or not.
We really are caught in an out of control dynamic. Everyone. So I guess we have a choice as to whether we see it as comedy or tragedy, depending on whether you are turning on one of the 10 faucets in your 5 bedroom house and getting miraculous hot water, or whether you are getting blown up and scattered on the desert. Take your pick.

There seems to be a fear of dramatic cataclysmic collapse in the brain chip that leaders have enjoyed capitalizing on all through history. It occurs just often enough to keep mankind titillated.
So the idea that individual players like Rove and Cheney are really important is part of the mythic impulse. I seriously doubt that removal of these people or radical revolution will change a thing. Moving to another dimension might.

Guess that makes me a sucker jm. The Cheney/Putin rhetoric is all bluff, just like the rhetoric in the run-up to ware on Iraq.

Just noticed that the Israel article I mentioned has my own download link, not the link to the article...so you can't access it....that's the problem with opening up email in your browser.
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/mear01_.html

Pluto will enter 0 Capricorn on Jan. 26, 2008 -- and the US's chart has Pluto @ 27 Capricorn w/ its first Pluto return on Feb 3rd, 2022 -- 14 years of pure hell on earth in the US. Pluto will oppose and square the US's Cancer stellium and Saturn in Libra in the 10th house (Sibley). The turning point should occur (open revolution - overthrowing Neo Dem-Con Fascism)during the square phase to US's Saturn in Libra. By that time in 1/25/2015 -- the US may be so devastated from a series of earthquakes/volcanoes/Super Hurricanes inccluding attacks from the BRIC alliance -- i.e. Brazil/Russia/Iran/China -- Venezuela) that it may no longer be worth fighting for. See this article posted today on Raw Story:
"US military, intelligence officials raise concern about possible preparations for Iran strike" http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/US_military_seen_ready_for_Iran_0511.html

In my personal chart -- I have a Mars Uranus conjunction in the 9th house that will be transited by Pluto beginning in Jan. 2007 -- when Pluto gets to the 28th degree of Sag. (7/21/49 @1:07 PM EDT - Wilmington, De.)
And I have had a succession of horrible dreams about the future the past two weeks. And I am attempting to prepare myself psychologically/spiritually to meet our collective fate with as much "consciousness" that my experiences have taught me in the past.
Like many others on this blog -- I am quietly preparing for the worst -- making up herbal extracts and medicines, growing a garden etc. -- as I do see that we the people will have to go "underground" so to speak -- in many ways -- while still pretending to live a "normal" life. Stranger days are truly ahead of us -- as the Neptunian veil of corporate fascistic deception envelopes our reality -- like a dense fog rolls into the harbor -- blinding us to all that is on the horizon.
Blessings, Ph

I am going to add, having read most of that long article, that it is no polemic, but a scholarly article which is very clear and gives so much information....and lays out the framework of why America has been pythoned by the Israely 'lobby'....

Philomena...my granddaughter, who will be 5 yrs old on May 24 (sun conj Saturn at 4 Gemini), has Mars retro at 27 Sag...in the twelfth. (with 6 Capricorn rising, conj. South Node, with moon at 5 Cancer)

She hasn't been having bad dreams so far, or at least lately. But I have always thought this would be a difficult period of time for her. She is already shy, and seems to not want to make friends at preschool...but is loving, funny and waves a lot to strangers (she loves the police for that)....and when she does connect with a friend, she has no trouble being with them....

so I certainly interested in what is happening with you.

jm, I don't think it's all bluff. It IS a game though. A game of chicken. They aren't playing it just to pull our collective chain so they can flex their muscles and prove themselves macho. People like Putin and Cheney are deadly serious about wanting to be the one on top. If they feel or think anything about us it's probably akin to indifference, or as pawns in their game.

Here's an old song by XTC that fits so well in todays world.

Dear god,
Hope you got the letter,
And i pray you can make it better down here.
I don't mean a big reduction in the price of beer,
But all the people that you made in your image,
See them starving on their feet,
'cause they don't get enough to eat

From god,
I can't believe in you.

Dear god,
Sorry to disturb you,
But i feel that i should be heard loud and clear.
We all need a big reduction in amount of tears,
And all the people that you made in your image,
See them fighting in the street,
'cause they can't make opinions meet,
About god,
I can't believe in you.

Did you make disease, and the diamond blue?
Did you make mankind after we made you?
And the devil too!

Dear god,
Don't know if you noticed,
But your name is on a lot of quotes in this book.
Us crazy humans wrote it, you should take a look,
And all the people that you made in your image,
Still believing that junk is true.
Well i know it ain't and so do you,
Dear god,
I can't believe in,
I don't believe in,

I won't believe in heaven and hell.
No saints, no sinners,
No devil as well.
No pearly gates, no thorny crown.
You're always letting us humans down.
The wars you bring, the babes you drown.
Those lost at sea and never found,
And it's the same the whole world 'round.
The hurt i see helps to compound,
That the father, son and holy ghost,
Is just somebody's unholy hoax,
And if you're up there you'll perceive,
That my heart's here upon my sleeve.
If there's one thing i don't believe in...

It's you,
Dear god.

I'm a sucker too Morgana.

Goldensilence

I don't think Putin and Cheney are making the decisions. I think the puppeteers let them play their games while they try to figure out their moves. And I believe they are often meant as distractions. I wish we could all tell the difference. A war with Iran makes no sense and I'm reluctant to compare it with Iraq. But of course I don't know. It's just that vital life force is bled in all the manipulation and confusion while the real masters of war remain hidden.

I think Putin is dead serious -- He has Pluto exactly conjunct his midheaven -- trined to Mars in Sag -- as does, Chavez. These men are consummate at military gamesmanship -- and do not blink -- even when psycho Cheney blows political hot air threats out of his arse. Look how Putin clamped down on the Russian Jewish Oligarchy with one hand and charmed the Russian Jews with the other. He knows exactlty what he is doing -- and is biding his time -- waiting for the US to make that one fatal move on Iran...which he sees as an attempt to surround the Caspian sea with US Military bases -- which in effect will then surround Russia.
Ph

Philomena

It does indeed look inauspicious. And most metaphysicians and psychics are in complete accord with you. We can only hole to duck the bombs and run between the raindrops.

All my life before I knew anything specific, I thought that they were all in cahoots. The drug and gun runners of the world. I still am always suspect, and think they still are all working together to create these scenarios. And we are the little pawns. I do maintain that confusion is their biggest tool.

JudiGem -- My Mars is 28 Gemini 55 and Uranus is 2 Cancer 25 -- in the 9th house of *dreams - astral journeying etc* -- Pluto in Sag will be entering my 3rd House when it gets past the 27th degree of Sag and start a 21/2 year oppostion to the Mars/Uranus conjunction.
I believe that these dreams are a foreshadowing of near future events -- and the one I had last night was by far the worse -- involving a pair of male twins (Mars in Gemini) one who was good and the other who was a twisted evil gay mass murderer. The violence he committed in my dream was absolutely unspeakable -- and does not bear repeating. PS -- the US chart has Mars in Gemini, as well -- and the symbolism is now making sense.
As for your darling grand daughter -- do not worry about the shyness during the Pluto transit. You should read her fairytales with Pluto and Sag themes to get her to open up and discuss her *inner world*. She may surprise you with her prophetic insights. Ph

This lunation is so interesting as Jupiter/Zeus and Hades/Pluto meet. The meeting of the duo is written all over the place. We have power staring us in the face and looming in an exaggerated way with all that Sag/Jupiter. There are so many possibilities. Pluto could be destroying some of Jupiter's inflated posturing. Or Jupiter could be using brother Pluto's underhanded techniques for maintenance of his position. That's a good point, Philo, about Putin's Pluto and the Sag. There is the pattern. The full Moon adds the power of imagination and mystique to the mixture, exciting fears, so I don't think we will know until a bit later, who really is on top. if anyone. Jupiter was given obvious power in mythology, but the question has always remained whether Pluto was more powerful because of his hidden workings. Now they are together and we can only observe the outcome.

Course that would be the biblical Armageddon, which is PNAC's goal, and they'll be "raptured" away and Christ will return. Russia being Gog or Magog can't remember which, the Bear...

If I may add a tiny personal note...Philo, it is no surprise that you are here. My Uranus is 28 Gemini exactly conjunct your Mars, square my Mars which is in a 2 degree square to your Uranus. This is a loaded meeting and a great opportunity to gain insight thru Uranus about Martial energy.

Shall we? If Pluto doesn't blow us up in the meantime. Maybe we can all learn how to effectively defend ourselves.

jm -- interesting that you addressed me as "Philo" -- as that is my nickname. Also, I do like veiwing this earthly tapestry through mythic lenses -- and I have just recently started paying attention to the asteroid - "Hades". Would you be so kind and give me a lesson in the meaning of Hades in one's chart -- Hade in my natal chart is conjunct my descedant -- 25 Aries. And where is Hades now -- as I think I may have had an encounter a few weeks ago during the Aries eclipse -- with Pluto conjunct the GC -- it definitely was a multidimenionsal visitation on April 4th about 2 AM -- very surreal but very real dark apparation came toward me and my S/O while we were sleeping -- and I woke up screaming -- GET OUT OF HERE-- as it looked as tho he was heading for my S/O to harm him while he was asleep.
Any input would be of great assistance in helping me understand the encounter -- as this is what set off a series of nightmares -- or possibly lower astral entities in the past few weeks. I have been purifying my home with sage and burning essential oils in the hopes of raising the vibrations or banishing the unwelcomed astral entities. PS -- I practice shamanic astrology.
Ph

Or let those lovin' heavens open up and we can rise up and continue the converstion there.

OMG!!! OMG!!!!!

Philo, I am 23 degrees Aries rising.

And I know absolutely nothing about the asteroids.

I do know mythology, though, and I am extremely enthusiastic about drem interpretation. Let me study this a minute.
I do know with Pluto coming to Uranus/Mars insight starts flashing like a gigantic emergency vehicle barreling through with no way at all to avoid getting your attention.

jm - Interesting that your Uranus is conjunct my Mars -- as my S/O's Uranus is exactly conjunct my Mars in the 29 degree of Gemini, too -- his Mars is in Capricorn @25 degrees -- and square Hades in my chart. My astro shamanic intincts are now working overtime ;) and I am sure you may well know intimately -- anyone with a Mars Uranus aspect carries a damien that must be trained to act from the higher Uranian visionary vibration rather than the lower Martial - force /disruptive side of one's nature.
Ph

Philomena, I picked up some hardback books at Goodwill for my mother....5 mysteries, 2 of them the Kay Scarpetta books by Pat Cornwell. In one of them (Blowfly), the evilness is two french twin brothers, whose father is the head of a a French winery called Chandonne (!) who is really the DaCapo of a world wide evil cartel (hmmmmm)....the sons are a handsome strapping sex god, and his twin is a deformed wolfman, both of whom are evil murdering crazies...

What, are you both channeling this?

Thanks for your feedback..Caitlin Rose has been talking since she was old enough of her former life when she was an old lady and had a rose garden...at one point, Caitlin came running from behind the house and said that an angel had told er she was going to be a doctor.....she is also quite amazingly talented as an artist. I am an artist, and both of us are Geminis with Saturn conjunct (exactly) our suns.

Please keep telling us your dreams....

One thing I can tell you is just what we've witnessed here. You and I both have Aries rising and a Mars/Uranus square. This is the wildest stallion imaginable and the harnessing of all this potential energy is what we are about. Pluto coming in is trying to get us to transform the wild, outrageous, and scattered into kinetic force. I'll help you, if you help me. It's no easy task. The bridle and the bit.
The sooner the better, probably, as we can venture into the wilderness ahead of the others and see if its safe to proceed.

I love it when this happens...Philo and jm...there are no accidents.....

I remember when I met one of my S/O's back in 1980...in a bar. Bunch of people were introducing themselves around the circle, and I couldn't take my eyes off of one of them....he said, hi my name is Bruce...and when it came to me I said, I am Bruce too. So then I went to an astrologer with him, and it turned out that he was 1 Taurus rising, and I am 0 Scorpio rising, and all of my planets were in the daylights part of the chart, and his in the nighttime side of the chart...and together, we made a whole chart.

Of course, it didn't work out....

Phil, Yes. The only slight point is that I think sometimes the higher vibration does involve disruption. The skill is in how you accomplish that. As you came into this forum for example, and got everyone's attention immediately and now we are on a new track.

I must go get some gold spray paint, but I want to say that I think we all beat Cheney and Putin by a trillion light years when it comes to being fascinating humans.

jm -- My Asc is 24 Libra 19 --Hades is an asteroid and is currently @Ha 24̊Ge23'-- and applying to an opposition to Pluto 26 Sag 17 Rx.

Just as well, Judi. A whole chart together would be the end. No more challenges. Onward we go!

I will once again pleasd with you all to read the London Review article...the authors are being thoroughly scapegoated for writing it. http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/mear01_.html

Philomena, Hades is a Transneptunian Point, not strictly an asteroid. It relates to the past or contact with the past, from past lives to ancient history to the childhood. It holds the energy to sort through your roots and understand it in terms of current issues so your experience with it was perfectly in keeping with the energy.

Hades is now transiting at 23 Gemini right on the US Mars. "What evil lurks in the hearts of men, the Shadow knows." As we have been able to see, Hades the ruler of the underworld and all that cannot be seen, those things one usually does in the dark of night and under the cloak of secrecy in in the grips of Hades, we are certainly seeing the worst of humanity the last few years. There is a lot more to be unearthed before Hades/Pluto is done.

Shoot!!!!!! You had to tell me that Philomena. About Hades at 24 Gem. My Venus is 24 GEM! Are you Hades come to get me!!!!????? Dig into the depths of my mind for all that wealth Hades so religiously guards? Have at it. It's for everyone!

Sally...UNEARTHED...perfect, as it seems suddenly the dots are connecting (as in the Israel Lobby article)....people are putting it together, publishing, taking the heat....what and who is REALLY running the USA? This is so perfect....

must do this errand but I am compelled to say one thing about Hades. In the underworld lies the Elysian Fields.... paradise. The most beautiful spot in the universe. As we wander through the agonies of Hades our destination is likely this paradise after we are forged, some say three time, in the fires. There is always reward for conscious journeys through difficult terrain. Even during the trip if we can perceive them. One of them being this meeting of minds in Astroworld as our government rots, bleeds, oozes, and tries to transform.
A fitting discussion for the Full Moon in Scorpio.

Last night I was researching the internet -- looking for an astrology site w/ Rove's birthchart and time of birth -- in the past -- I would come upon this site and curiously read the comments after reading the lead article -- but did not take the time to try and comment. I tried last night -- and kept getting a prompt saying that I did not have the right security code to let my first post go through. I was determined to meet you guys -- so I emailed Sally personally and she told me to do the same thing I had tried about 4x's the night before -- and lo and behold -- I came through instantly this morning. I do not know what the glitch was -- but as I said -- was determined to meet you and here we are.

Yes jm -- Uranus is always going to bring a lightning bolt with its revelation --- a lot of people on other boards would become a bit uncomfortable with my Mars Uranian method of celestial delivery -- so after a while -- I sort of shied away from writing posts that would upset the astrological status quo -- and continued with my research -- solo.
Dinner is ready so I must go for a while -- we'll pick up this thread a bit later.
Blessings to all,
Ph

Last night I was researching the internet -- looking for an astrology site w/ Rove's birthchart and time of birth -- in the past -- I would come upon this site and curiously read the comments after reading the lead article -- but did not take the time to try and comment. I tried last night -- and kept getting a prompt saying that I did not have the right security code to let my first post go through. I was determined to meet you guys -- so I emailed Sally personally and she told me to do the same thing I had tried about 4x's the night before -- and lo and behold -- I came through instantly this morning. I do not know what the glitch was -- but as I said -- was determined to meet you and here we are.

Yes jm -- Uranus is always going to bring a lightning bolt with its revelation --- a lot of people on other boards would become a bit uncomfortable with my Mars Uranian method of celestial delivery -- so after a while -- I sort of shied away from writing posts that would upset the astrological status quo -- and continued with my research -- solo.
Dinner is ready so I must go for a while -- we'll pick up this thread a bit later.
Blessings to all,
Ph

Good article JudiG and very true. WV has been trying to alert us to the dangers of Zionists for at least two years now and the danger they pose for us. It is not anti-Israel to sound the alarm of the danger of standing to close to their "fires." I know a ton of Jews who are and have been very upset by the "marriage" between the governments of the US and Israel. It's disgusting and intelligent, thoughtful Jews and Americans know it.

I have Uranus at 29 Gemini 38 (first house). I also have Uranus semi-square Pluto in my 3rd House

Sometime it might be interesting to see how everyone's charts here inercept/inerract. It might give us a clue as to what has drawn us here at this time.

Sally, you are right, and WV has been on to it. What has happened in my opinion (and personally, too, (getting righteously whacked by a Jewish friend whose husband is a Zionist....) is the confusion deliberately being used out there that anti semitism is ANYTHING anyone says that is anti Israel. I have never seen all of it in one place before, how the whole thing was constructed. I sent it to my Jewish friend....I suppose she will never speak to me again...but the truth really is out there....once the confusion was cleared up for me, I was able to say, I GET it now....

How can so few people in prominent positions threaten so many of us? This article says how....it is sick.

Philo...we specialize in upsetting the status quo...I think it might be the astrologers who run the site 'credo'

I have to tell you that the majority of my jewish friends do "get it" Judi and they feel it's ruining their country and that its zealot jews such as Zionists who keep the whole anti-semitism going. They left Israel because of them. Like we want to leave the US because of the GOP

Yes, and that is what the article says....that American Jews don't believe this is right, or at least the majority of them (60%) say so. It just turned out that my friend (who isn't American, she is South African) is a major Cancerian, and she married several years ago to a Zionist and I didn't KNOW that he was. And she has always walked on eggshells around him because he has the money...she has become someone I don't recognize. But she has what she needs as a Cancerian...security. I mess up her security.

And that is what, I think, it came down to....

Sally, what also amazed me in the article is the fact that Bush was runover by the neocons so thoroughly....kind of puts all of them in a new light...and boy, it appears that no one in the last almost 40 years has been able to break the Zionist hold on our foreign policy. What is more disturbing is the other area which is being undermined...education.

The Lobbying of AIPAC is pretty sinister to our health as a world of peace.

Sally -- thanks for the clarification on Hades being a transneptunian planet.
I am an old school astrologer -- and have tried to keep up with the emerging information on asteroids - centaurs -- and now trans neptunian planets... lots of vast deep space out there -- lots of stellar traffic to navigate -- aye. I like your analogy in re the difference between Zionists/zealotJews and Jews of conscience -- there is a vast difference -- and pity the poor Jew who does not toe the Zionist line --they are the ones who suffer the most. I will accept losing everything in life except for my most precious possession -my humanity.
Philomena <-- a matrilineal Sephardic Jew
PS -- and I am anti Zionist to the core.

Raw Story:
US military, intelligence officials raise concern about possible preparations for Iran strike

Concern is building among the military and the intelligence community that the US may be preparing for a military strike on Iran, as military assets in key positions are approaching readiness, RAW STORY has learned.
According to military and intelligence sources, an air strike on Iran could be doable in June of this year, with military assets in key positions ready to go and a possible plan already on the table.

down the page on this story: this is how they are doing this without CONGRESS:

Advance teams under way; Congress ‘bypassed’

As previously reported by Raw Story, a terrorist organization known as Mujahedeen-e Khalq (MEK) is being used on the ground in Iran by the Pentegon, bypassing US intelligence channels. The report was subsequently covered by the Asia Times (Article).

Military and intelligence sources now say no Presidential finding exists on MEK ops. Without a presidential finding, the operation circumvents the oversight of the House and Senate Intelligence committees.

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/US_military_seen_ready_for_Iran_0511.html

Military, intelligence community alarmed

According to a New Yorker article by veteran investigative journalist Seymour Hersh, other activities aimed at intimidating and agitating Iranian leadership are also underway.

"One military planner told me that White House criticisms of Iran and the high tempo of planning and clandestine activities amount to a campaign of ‘coercion’ aimed at Iran," Hersh wrote.

The increase in violence on the southern border of
more....
Iran, the movement of aircraft carriers into the region, the insistence of Iran’s leadership that they intend to be a player on the nuclear stage and the Bush Administration’s focus on regime change make military and intelligence sources nervous.

"[President] Bush thinks that history will judge him as a great leader, not unlike Winston Churchill," one former high-ranking military intelligence official remarked.

Philo...you wouldn't like what my friend has done, I think, but you are obviously a strong person....my friend DOES need taking care of, and I saw that when she was single. She rejects all political talk....she lives only in a world of her own making, which is a spiritual, gentle, flowerfilled (she is a flower essence practitioner and healing world. In essence, it set up the problem for me....as I am not of that world only, but this political one....so I had to 'drop out'. After she informed me NEVER TO SEND HER ANY MORE POLITICAL STUFF (I had sent her an article on the Israeli art students sent undercover by Mossad to Florida in 2001)...she was infuriated, saying art students are kind and gentle and would never be spies (!?), she then informed me her husband was a Zionist.

Yikes....I then dropped out of her world, because I couldn't bridge them.

Judi - NTW, your friend is living in her own world and possibly not as well informed or interested in the big picture -- and it is no reflection on your integrity as a human being w/ an avid investigative interest in world events.
ph

Philomena, Transneptunian is a very very old system, used by all the ancient astrologers, as we moved forward from Hindu to Western astrology they were dropped and wrapped in "astroids" because "astroids" were kind of dismissed or not used except around the edges. It's only been the last 40/50 years that Ebertine brought Transneptunian Planets back to their rightful place as well as mid-points and asteroids

I found this on Hades, as I was interested in it ...not having any info on these new guys either, and there is even a meditation for it...
http://medicinegarden.com/astrology/med_astro_hades.html

This may help in dream interpretation... dream as messages from the unconscious, personal/collective, may be surprisingly different in meaning than with what the mass-mind trained conscious mind conjures up... http://www.jeremytaylor.com/pages/dreamwork.html

Well...after reading about Hades at the medicine garden, and knowning that it is conjuncting my POF, I guess I get what is going on...boy, this is going to apply to politics, too...

Joanna...good site....I like what he wrote about being a spiritual warrior:
Dreams and Spiritual Development

One reason why such distressing dream experiences regularly come to people who are deeply engaged in their own spiritual development, or those working in the world to relieve the sufferings of others, is that the only place where evil can truly be faced and overcome is within. This means that people who are sincerely engaged in trying to make the world a better place must face and overcome this order of evil if they are to succeed. The more sincere and effective one's spiritual development and one's reconciling work in the world, the more likely it is that one will have worst case dreams of this archetypal order.

In that sense, the worst case dreams are little "training films" for the spiritual warrior. Another way of looking at such dreams is that they are "rescue missions" undertaken by the dreaming psyche in the as-yet-unredeemed depths of the archetypal Shadow and the Inchoate Potential in the collective unconscious.

I want to thanks everyone connected with Sally's astroworld -- I have learned so much in such a short time today by simply opening up to the dynamic group spirit herein.
You are a wonderful group and I look forward to many fruitful conversations in the future.
The sites you have provided along with Sally's teaching on Hades are more than I could have synthesized alone.
We shall meet again tomorrow ...in peace, love and goodwill. Ph

Yea, verily, judi... pluto in a nutshell... somewhat. ;O)

I was wondering if someone with Wolfowitz' chart and the world bank chart, could have a look to see if it's another connection.
With the threat of Iran changing money systems, as Iraq did, and the constant news stories about China, this could be the key.

I have been reading steadily for about 45 minutes trying to catch up with all of you after work.
Interestingly, I have late Aries rising, 29 Aries with mars just behind squaring saturn and they both are semi-square uranus-also moon conjunct pluto at 11 and 12 leo. I was interested that some of you I have resonated with have the mars, uranus, aries thing going on.
Strange day for me. I feel as though something really big is building, which is not explained by the current scandals. Maybe the approach of the Buddha full moon very close to my jupiter.
One thing, I am reminded again that I fear that the current administration will never leave willingly. These people are so vicious, so organized, so fully financed-I don't think they are playing the same game we are. I feel tired tonight, tired from the daily reminder that the old days are gone and an intuition that we will never be the same.
I especially have been hurt by the abuse of religion and spirituality. I am a Catholic and I have retreated so often to those traditions and trusted that no matter what the fundies did that I could continue in my old fashioned practices and go to mass with my spanish speaking fellow catholics. I even went through the sex abuse revelations without being shaken because I believed that the truth would free us to be more honest and strangely more accepting of our human nature but now the new pope is disturbing for me and the way the rightwingers (Nazis?) have taken over even in my local leftwing church is simply deeply disturbing. I have a feeling of something deeply vile, deeply antilife, deeply antifemine lurking like a fog bank. I will continue to pray.

I don't have the World Bank chart as it was formed under some strange circumstances and the actual date is unclear but Wolfowitz is Dec. 22, 1943 NY,NY Noon chart, and he is in for some change next year (2007/2008) when Pluto goes over his Sun and Uranus squares his Saturn, the lead up to that isn't so good either as Saturn aspects his Venus and several Leo Planets. So yes I would say change.

b World Without War by Chris Spannos

... Conclusion:

After arguing that wars between nations have done exceptionally more harm than good; that truly civilized nations will develop means other than war to help remedy another country's injustice; that war making war has the effect of corrupting all; & that all wars are bad, this paper suggests a 4-pronged approach for an over all anti-war strategy, one possibility for winning a world w/o war:

(1) Create multi-issue & multi-focused anti-war strategies complimentary to other social mvmts seeking fundamental institutional changes in the economic, kinship, political, cultural & ecological spheres of society.

(2) Refuse to accept the legitimacy of the current "War on Terror" & refuse to accept all war/occupation. This can begin with already existing & ongoing anti-war organizing, resistance, demonstrations, outreach & mvmt building.

(3) Raise the social costs & consequences of elite war making by supporting soldiers refusing to fight in Afghanistan/Iraq, & supporting workers strikes & stoppages related to ongoing war making. Further strategies to raise the cost of war making for the elite incl targeting specific corpos profiting from war & aim to bring them down. Once we've achieved our goals, let's pick more war profiting corpos & go after them; seeking to create conditions where elite war making causes our mvmts to grow & raise consciousness towards attempts at transforming the structural causes of war, further leading to a context where making war leads elites to losing ever more control & we gain ever more control. This can happen thru...

(4) The creation of "Shadow Conversion Movements" generating ongoing alternative policies & budgets approved by participatory processes. These alternative budgets & policies can be used to critique natl & internatl military budgets & expenditures & press for further conversion of military spending to social welfare spending. It can also critique foreign policy & support adherence to internatl law, awa provide proposals for immediate withdrawal from war & occupation. A shadow conversion mvmt cld extend its insights into other realms of social life incl political, economic, cultural & kinship spheres. ... http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=11&ItemID=10237

Joanna -- three words
Military
Industrial
Complex

the trillion dollar global fund
created the world bank
and funds all the wars

(heheheh)

* Oil Companies Not Entitled to Payment, Bolivian Says

The leader of Bolivia on Thur ruled out compensating oil companies for nationalized oil/gas fields as he came under questioning from European officials at the start of a high-level mtg on energy/trade. Pres Evo Morales said there was no need to pay companies like British Gas, Total of France, Repsol of Spain & Petrobras of Brazil because they had already recovered their investments & had earned a significant profit from the fields. Mr Morales declared a nationalization of the oil/gas fields on May 1, backed by Bolivian army troops. ...

...He also confirmed expectations that his govt planned to seize farmland & redistribute it to peasants, a prospect that has unnerved neighboring Brazil, whose oil giant, Petrobras, was affected by the gas field nationalization & whose farmers hold land in Bolivia. "We're not going to limit ourselves to oil resources," Mr Morales said. "We're also going to finish with huge landowners," on esp productive land, "in our country." ... http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/12/business/worldbusiness/12energy.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1147403358-42jPWYtRaji6XjeFiWcfWw

* Morales to target Bolivia's big [pink supremacist invader] land owners

Evo Morales, the populist Bolivian pres, yesterday made clear he wld not compensate foreign energy companies for their loss of contracts thru nationalisation in his country. He also warned that large landowners were his next target. ... While indicating that companies cld be compensated for physical assets taken by the state, Mr Morales said they wld not be indemnified for losing their concessions.

He described foreign energy investors as "smugglers" & argued they had broken Bolivian laws & paid no taxes on their profits. "We don't have to talk, dialogue or negotiate when it comes to the policy of a sovereign state," he said. ... http://news.ft.com/cms/s/3de65d94-e154-11da-90ad-0000779e2340.html

Yea, verily, Philomena... ;O)

http://www.counterpunch.org/wanniski03172005.html

A Perfect Fit
Wolfowitz at the World Bank
By JUDE WANNISKI

If you really don't know what the "World Bank" is all about, you would think that President Bush was joking in nominating Paul Wolfowitz to be the new president of the Bank, replacing Jim Wolfensohn. One of the chief architects of the Iraq war, Wolfowitz is a political theorist, a 61-year-old man who spent most of his adult life at blackboards and lecterns teaching students about international politics. He may know how to operate an Automatic Teller Machine when in need of ready cash, but he knows absolutely nothing about banking. Wolfensohn, who was a New York investment banker before President Clinton named him to the post a decade ago, at least knows something about banking. His partner in New York, to which I suppose he will return, is Paul Volcker, the former chairman of the Federal Reserve, our nation's central bank. Wolfie the Warrior, by contrast, is the lifetime sidekick, even protÈgÈ, of Richard Perle, probably the most important intellectual in the service of the military-industrial complex. If you want to know how Professor Wolfowitz got the job, follow the money.

That's what the World Bank is all about. It was created as an adjunct of the United Nations at the end of World War II, along with its brother institution, the International Monetary Fund. On paper, its function was to lend money to developing countries to help them grow. Its real job has been to serve the interests of the major money-center banks and the multinational corporations who make the big bucks in World Bank development projects. The Bank, which is really a "fund," persuades a poor country like Ghana, for example, to build a new industrial complex in order make stuff for export. It will lend the money to Ghana -- which it gets from global taxpayers including you and me -- and arrange for the complex to be built by one of the favored corporations in the military-industrial complex. The list always includes Bechtel Corporation, Halliburton, and Kellogg Brown & Root, a division of Halliburton. These outfits go in and build the projects because the locals have no expertise.

In "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" John Perkins explains in some detail the mechanics of this gigantic money machine. It not only promotes unnecessary industrial complexes in Ghana, which rust away in bankruptcy when they prove to be uneconomic. The aim of the military-industrial complex is not only "industrial," but also military. The name most closely associated with Halliburton, of course, is Vice President Cheney, who was Defense Secretary in the first Gulf War, with Paul Wolfowitz even then at his side (urging all-out war with Iraq even after Saddam put up the white flag and retreated to Baghdad before the war began!!) Rats.

The name most associated with Bechtel is George P. Shultz, once its top dog, now a mere director. Shultz was Treasury Secretary under Richard Nixon (helping talk him into floating the U.S. dollar), Secretary of State under Ronald Reagan, and currently a member of the Defense Policy Board, which until last year Richard Perle chaired.

Shultz also introduced Governor George W. Bush to Condoleezza Rice, who in turn introduced Paul Wolfowitz to Governor Bush back in 1999. Shultz of course knew at the time that Wolfie and Perle and their neo-con Cabal were planning a war in Iraq, and we know nice, little "doable" wars (Wolfie's word), are meat and potatoes for the military-industrial complex. Instead of squeezing nickels and dimes out of the taxpayers to persuade Ghana to build a steel mill it doesn't need and can't run, even little wars run into the billions. And everyone gets into the act. The arms makers who produce airplanes, tanks, guns, jeeps and humvees get to blow up a country (like Iraq) and Bechtel and Halliburton come in right behind to rebuild it. In announcing the Wolfowitz appointment today, President Bush said the World Bank is a big organization and Wolfowitz has experience running a big organization, the Pentagon!! As far as the military-industrial complex is concerned, Wolfowitz did a FANTASTIC job. He was only expected to plan for a $30 billion war and he screwed up so badly that it is now a $200 billion war, and counting. Anyone who can screw up that badly deserves a promotion, to the World Bank.

So you see it doesn't really matter that Wolfowitz doesn't know the first thing about banking or the economics of development projects. He will sit behind the biggest desk at the Bank and take the telephone calls from the Big Banks and the Multinationals, telling him what to do, and providing him with experts like John Perkins, who did the actual dirty work as an economic hit man, and now writes his confessions. When the White House needs a big favor for one of its big hitters, it need only put in a call to Wolfie, who will throw the right switch. That's exactly the way it worked with Jim Wolfensohn these past ten years, and if you don't believe me, look around and you will note how many poor countries got poorer during his reign, and how many big bucks were made at Bechtel and Halliburton.

There will of course be complaints from various global diplomats about the obvious incompetence of Wolfowitz, just as there were puzzled head-scratchings around the world about the incompetence of Condi Rice as Secretary of State or John Bolton as UN Ambassador. But money talks in all the places where the directors of the World Bank live, and they will be advised to clam up by the local military-industrial money machines. Perle will also have his pals at The Weekly Standard and Fox News speculate that when Condi is President, Wolfie will be her veep (which is how it happened we`ve seen talk of Condi for President in 2008). Nor can we expect any complaints from Congress, because in one way or another there is too much money at stake, too many reputations looking toward bigtime lobbying jobs when its time to give up a seat in Congress.

If this seems harsh, as if I'm writing about something new under the rocks on which our Uncle Sam perches, I suggest you read my 1978 book, "The Way the World Works," which describes how the British Empire worked in exactly this fashion. My best example was the first multinational corporations, the British railroad builders. Once they ran out of places to build rail lines in the U.K., they persuaded Parliament to promote railroads in the colonies, and were enormously successful in talking the Raj into criss-crossing India with railroads in the mid-19th century. It was one thing in England, where the companies could only build where there was a clear sign the line would be profitable, because it was their own money at risk. In India, the locals borrowed the money from the Bank of England and hired the builders to put in rail lines that couldn't possibly be profitable. India was burdened with debts from these schemes well into the 20th century.

Even after it gained independence in 1948, India was persuaded by British and American economists to keep tax rates high and to devalue the rupee, to keep them poor and unable to compete with the big guys. Who did the British and American economists work for? Why the World Bank, of course, and also the IMF, whose job is to go into the poor countries when they can't pay back their loans, and lend them the money to do so -- as long as they agree to raise taxes again, devalue their currency, and build new industrial complexes that are constructed by Bechtel and Halliburton.

So you see why it makes perfect sense to have Wolfowitz at the World Bank. He's terrific at doing wars, and wars are much more profitable than nickel-and-dime industrial projects. That's the way the world works. Always has been.

Jude Wanniski is a former associate editor of The Wall Street Journal, expert on supply-side economics and founder of Polyconomics, which helps to interpret the impact of political events on financial markets.

The White House is cornered and trapped and no one's getting out. The maggots can start to feed on one another. Sally's wall is getting more real and higher by the nanosecond. Thank you, Sally, for taking care of this.
Unfortunately Congress will have to remain outside the wall for the moment as we will have to solicit their help.

This should be the death knell. There will be a couple more eliminating Scorpio full Moons with this cycle but none with Jupiter there. With all this Sagittarius there is an undercurrent of joy, but the big moment of joy for this country is yet to come before Pluto leaves. With a lifetime of Sag myself, I can guarantee it. As this Sagittarius rising country learns what this is all about. Jupiter will explode in Sag in our first house next year, released from Scorpio to celebrate in his natural home and dance with his brother Pluto in a some sort of exhaltation. But these moments can be brief. I'm getting ready to seize this one. We've earned it.

Point of Information:

Zionism is the support of the concept that that supports a homeland for the Jewish people in the land of Israel. At this point in time most of the Jews who use to live throughout the middle east (from Iran to Morocco) now live in Isreal. At this point in time it would be pretty much impossible for these Jews to return to where they came from (half the population is from arab states):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism

Also Pakistan isn't that much different than Israel in that it's a homeland for muslims who didn't want to be part of Hindu dominated India. Like Israel, Pakistan wouldn't be around if it weren't for the support of the United States:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan

You can support the concept of Israel and also support the idea of a Palestinian state. You can also support Israel, but want them to get out of the west bank.

WhaddaHOOT!!

* German 'Robin Hoods' give poor a taste of the high life

A GANG of anarchist Robin Hood-style thieves, who dress as superheroes & steal expensive food from exclusive restaurants/delicatessens to give to the poor, are being hunted by police in the German city of Hamburg. The gang members seemingly take delight in injecting humour into their raids, which rely on sheer numbers & the confusion caused by their presence. After they plundered Kobe beef fillets, champagne & smoked salmon from a gourmet store on the exclusive Elbastrasse, they presented the cashier with a bouquet of flowers before making their getaway. ...
i http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=692762006

Eric Francis May 11, 2006 | Here beside the rising tide

THUNDER and rain have visited Toronto the morning of my mentorship intensive here on astrology and activism -- the perfect weather. We have a meeting room on the 10th floor, digital equipment, an Internet connection into the space, and a group of 15 astrologers and astrology students. I've gone through several variations of what to do, and I've decided I'm going to take the morning session, project one chart on the screen (the total solar eclipse of June 21, 2001), and ask people to share the story of their life since that eclipse.

How intense the times we live in are entirely unacknowledged. There is so little reflection, so little assessing of the sweeping change, the pressure, the fear and most of all the sense that more is going to change faster. As Bob Dylan said in one of his lesser known songs, there's no time to think.

The full-throttle astrology goes back a bit further than the 6/21/01 total solar. There was the Chiron-Pluto conjunction in Sagittarius on New Year's Eve 1999. There was the 8/11/01 total solar eclipse and grand cross ("before 9/11 there was 8/11"). So, I think that a time to reflect would be healthy and teach us a lot.

Astrology on one level is about ideas; on another, it's about the positions of the planets; on another it's about these things called archetypes and our relationship to them; and if you jump up one level it's about a lot of mathematical relationships between everyone, everything, and time. But in truth astrology is an experience. It is the flow, the feeling and the events of our lives as we move through the wild cosmos, uncertain of where we are or why we are all here.

We are living through dangerous days. For many people, uncertainty is a way of life; for many, fear is a way of life, and not because they want it to be. All day long we are confronted with news of war, of loss and of the threat of worse things. But life goes on, as it always does.

Many people feel the potential of our moment in history, the potential for an old way of thinking and existing to be cast off and a new one to be born. The words for this are "paradigm shift." Millions of individuals in our culture have devoted long years of their lives to self-study, spiritual practice, conscious living, personal growth, therapy, meditation and living in greater harmony with the world. But a new frame of reality has yet to take over; our civilization speeds dangerously toward a cliff. We don't know, for example, how long we have before the oil runs out and before clean water will be extremely scarce everywhere, as it already is many places.

I think this is an important time to assess reality, and to make decisions. As astrologers and astrology students, we have something rare, which is a cosmic perspective. We can look at longer cycles than a week or a year and explore their meaning, both collectively and in our lives. More than anything, astrology teaches us that we're intricately connected to the whole.

If we acknowledge that one fact, what, then, becomes apparent? http://planetwaves.net/

UK Steve Judd 11 May

Went on a sacred geography walk of the City of London ley lines yesterday, so many churches in prominent places, most of them were anciently delightful, but oh! that huge patriarchal monolith on top of Ludgate Hill that goes under the name of St Paul’s. Such an offensive carbuncle, an insult to feminism in women and men alike. It’s like saying ‘I’ve got a big one’ and waving it in ones face. Legend has it that King Bladud, the mythical founder of Bath and father of King Lear, flew to London on a stone but crashed on Ludgate Hill. Every time I come across a legend or myth of people flying on stones, along with them crashing, I nearly always find accompanying stories of the sky going dark. There is an unspoken mythology that eclipses cause things such as earth energy currents, to suddenly stop. Hence stone crashes? **Farewell is such a meaningful word** http://www.stevejudd.co.uk/

a couple of weeks ago I received via email newsletter the latest from Paul Levy "Archetypal Dimensions of World Events." Too long to post the whole thing, but here is a snip to ponder. Interesting perspective.
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C. G. Jung had profound insight into the deeper, underlying archetypal processes originating in the unconscious psyche of humanity that give shape and form to collective human events. To quote Jung, “…the first World War released the hidden power of evil, just as the war itself was released by the accumulation of unconscious masses…. The second World War was a repetition of the same psychic process but on an infinitely greater scale.” The current global war on terror is the latest iteration of the same underlying psychic process, the latest variation of a very old theme. Our species is endlessly re-creating the same mythic, archetypal process, as if we are having a recurring dream.
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We are so unaware that archetypes are the determinants of world events, that this fact is not even part of our planetary dialogue. Psychologically speaking, we, as a species are still in an un-evolved, unconscious and adolescent state, as we are too absorbed in a personalistic, reductive, and literal view of the world. Unaware of the archetypal dimension of reality, we don’t realize that this dream-like universe is a living oracle, an unfolding revelation which is speaking symbolically. Recognizing the archetypal dimension of existence is to realize that we are mutually playing roles in a mythic, divine drama of salvation, redemption, and incarnation.
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It's hard to really cut loose and celebrate with fears of cataclysm, collapse, violence, and police states, but this is the situation. A little ballast helps.

Soon Pluto will leave Sag and a new situation will present itself. A lot of cardinal planets will be activated and action will be required. The scenario will unfold in ways to be seen but most of the time transits act out according to the basic character of the entity shown by natal placements. So we can look at where our natal Pluto is and the Capricorn ruler Saturn. And Mars which will be in that anxiously awaited square to Pluto.

Mars rules our 4th house. It is the foundation of our country and is the base we always come back to when dealing with the world. Aries on the 4th is a deep reservoir of inner strength. And the ability to initiate action when required fast and accurately. When Uranus gets there our foundation will be shaken and our strength awakened. So no matter what happens, we should do well. It's a good base to have. We have become too weak and need to reconnect with this foundation. We have to come home for a minute.
When this country was settled, it was by young healthy pioneering people starting life in a new world. This time it's different. We now have a large, fairly sick population with a huge growing elderly group, one of the main factors of Capricorn and what's ahead. We now have a lot of responsibility and people to take care of. We've revolted against this King George early because there is so much to do. While it is certainly possible that violent revolution and collapse of the system will happen, I'm not so sure we have the time for that. The reality of all these people is here and pandemic, war, or revolution could delete many of them, but I wouldn't count on it. We'll have to face it. And all the cardinal will have to act on it.
I think violent upheaval is common with fixed energy that won't budge. We have a lot of mutable which is flexible and can easily adapt. All of our cardinal is willing to do what's necessary. So I'm not sure about a violent revolution. With Our PMars going retro and Uranus on the Aries fourth, the inner self will be brought forward, but whatever the events, the activation of strength is the result. Aries wants most of all to survive and take care of its needs. Conquest can't come until the basic health and vitality are established.

Pluto is in Cap in our second so money and resources will be the scenario. Capricorn is also preservation so I believe we will be weighing what we want to preserve, what we still value(2nd house), and what no longer works. Taxes are one big issue.

Saturn in the 10th in Libra and square all of this is a large part of it as we probably will be in deep debate as to how to care for the young(Cancer) and the old(Capricorn).

If the elite take over to such an extent that the rest of the people are thrust into abject poverty, then revolution could result, but I think it's hard to predict for sure. Big Brother surveillance chips and total control are probably logistically impossible, but we'll see.
The battle with corporate power will be painful, no doubt. For both sides.

We can wait for chaos and total collapse and if it doesn't come we would have wasted all that time not progressing. Even if it does, we could use the time to plan our improvements. Even though the restructuring won't come until 2020, now is the time to draw the blueprints. We will deal with each adverse situation as it comes. We'll know what to do.

I meant of course, Uranus in square to Pluto, not Mars, but you know that.

Someone posted a brief on the full moon planets; JoannaO or Sally ? ( It falls at 1o from exact, on my scorpio moon.)
I think it was on the last thread Comedy Central. (346) entries.
I can't find it! If you remember , can you please post the date & time . I didn't even get a Dell Horoscope Mag this month.
PQ

If you missed this on the air, this is a MUST SEE
film of Jack Cafferty blowing his top about dicta
torship.....

http://movies.crooksandliars.com/TSR-Cafferty-Dictatorship.mov

* [booosh]'s Approval Rating Slides To 20s For First Time... Just 29% Approve... http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB114735765551950179-w7V4BRLul0aQ57xTm63c_3bKREY_20070512.html?mod=blogs

;O)

http://www.buzzflash.com/index.php?story=Content

The Nation has Crossed Over Into DEFCON II for Democracy

May 12, 2006

A BUZZFLASH EDITORIAL

The nation has crossed over into DEFCON II for democracy.

We have a Stalinesque government breaking the law, violating the Constitution, invading our privacy—and Capitol Hill acts as all that’s called for is some investigations.

Oh yeah, there’s something huffing and puffing by the likes of Snarlin’ Arlen Specter. But, as we’ve pointed out before, he’ll never do anything. The only reason the right wingers let him chair the judiciary committee is that he took an oath of Omerta to support the Busheviks to the end when it came to voting time. (All these moderate Republicans always vote with the Busheviks when their votes are needed. They are allowed to “take a walk” and appear moderate by occasionally voting “no” when their vote isn’t needed anyway. Lincoln Chafee, Olympia Snowe, and Susan Collins are all great examples of this carnival trick.)

Besides Specter is reduced to calling telephone execs to testify to try and find out about Bush’s illegal activities, because Bush’s handlers—as usual—won’t provide Congress with any information about the White House’s secret, law-breaking, Constitution violating government. As usual, the hearings will be a farce.

If Specter is serious—which he isn’t—subpoena Hayden, Gonzales, Negroponte and Goss. They have all committed perjury before the Senate, anyway. And the Democrats should boycott the hearings unless the top Bush officials are put under oath.

The White House has “fixed democracy” through controlling Bush’s Boy Toy I, Kansas Senator Pat Roberts, that there will be no investigations of gross intelligence violations in the Senate—and similarly in the House.

Bush’s handlers had the NSA and Gonzales Justice Department collude to prevent an investigation of the NSA, under the pretense that Bush’s own Justice Department—which we remind you is OUR Justice Department—couldn’t be given security clearance to investigate whether the NSA is violating the law. Hey, we know they are violating the law: Bush has admitted to it!

Then he ignores the courts, by bypassing FISA, admits to ignoring more than 750 laws (according to the Boston Globe), and packs the rest of the courts with partisan hacks (see today’s BuzzFlash GOP Hypocrite of the Week in the second installment of this morning’s headlines).

And then you have these pathetic headlines of “business as usual Bush faces some small obstacle headlines” in the “on bended knee” mainstream news as if this were just an inconvenient obstacle for Hayden’s nomination. Excuse us, Hayden’s nomination—like Bush’s—presidency is a theat to our Constitution and our democracy. It is America that is risk, not Hayden’s professional future as a liar and enabler of the shredding of the rule of law.

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* FLETCHER INDICTED - Gov moves to have Stumbo taken off case

After mos of speculation/intrigue, a special grand jury investigating the state govt’s hiring practices indicted Gov Ernie Fletcher on 3 misdemeanor charges of conspiracy, official misconduct & political discrimination.

The foreman of the jury, which has been reviewing reams of docs & hearing hours of testimony for nearly a year, calmly read the charges to Franklin Circuit Court Judge Wm L Graham shortly before 4:30 pm yesterday. Fletcher becomes the 3rd sitting Kentucky gov to be indicted & the first since Flem Sampson was charged in 1929 with receiving improper gifts.

In addition to Fletcher, the jury charged former chief state highway engineer Sam Beverage with perjury & submitted 14 more indictments under seal. Those could be made public once the Supreme Court rules on a related question: whether Fletcher’s pardoning of his adm staff in Aug also blocks future charges. Fletcher didn’t pardon himself, but still has that option. [?!?!?!?!] ... http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/news/breaking_news/14556190.htm

I have thought that Pluto in Capricorn will usher in a time of even greater power for the corporations and that when the the square to Uranus in Aries comes into focus there will be a refusal to allow our Frankenstein to go on tearing up the garden and demolishing the house.
When I started reading this morning I was impressed again by the amount of information available here and the loving spirit that floats from word to word. Everyday I learn astrology and philosophy and politics here and learn even more how to live and move with grace and faith. I feel encouraged this morning. Thank you each one.

NEPTUNE IN AQUARIUS GOES RETROGRADE MAY 22, 2006 What Does It Mean?

by Eileen Nauman

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This is an interesting time with Neptune, planet of truth and lies, going retrograde three days after The DaVinci Code, a movie that puts out the word that Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene. Neptune is ever the uncover-er of lies, fraud and deception. And I find it fascinating the planet is going retrograde right when a movie that shows the truth about this particular master (and there are many masters, both male and female), is brought to the light of the public through a movie. Count on Neptune to use some interesting ways to get the truth out--even if it is a couple of thousands of years after the fact! You can count that with this heavenly occurrence happening right when this movie, which is going to put a crack in many religions belief systems, that it will be a shot heard 'round the world--for sure. Neptune, the creative, has chosen to take the route of a movie to reveal the truth. And after so many church officials of the Catholic faith have tried to destroy all evidence of other manuals and gospels that showed Christianity to be far more broad and diverse, they are now going to have the truth come back to haunt them. Only, this time in the form of a book by Dan Brown (The DaVinci Code) and now, a movie by Ron Howard. "Truth will out," is a Neptune promise. And it sure has in this case--so don't miss the movie! Or the book! It is enlightening, contemplative and inspiring. Whomever says "Spring has Sprung," has sure meant it this year! May, to say the least, is a can of popcorn--movie popcorn, of course, for when you go see the movie, The DaVinci Code which opens on May 19th!

http://medicinegarden.com/astrology/NeptRetro_052206.html

http://www.salon.com/books/feature/2006/05/12/goldberg/print.html

"Kingdom Coming: The Rise of Christian Nationalism"

Across the United States, religious activists are organizing to establish an American theocracy. A frightening look inside the growing right-wing movement.

A teenage modern dance troupe dressed all in black took their places on the stage of the First Baptist Church of Pleasant Grove, a suburb of Birmingham, Alabama. Two dancers, donning black overcoats, crossed their arms menacingly. As a Christian pop ballad swelled on the speakers, a boy wearing judicial robes walked out. Holding a Ten Commandments tablet that seemed to be made of cardboard, he was playing former Alabama Supreme Court justice Roy Moore. The trench-coated thugs approached him, miming a violent rebuke and forcing him to the other end of the stage, sans Commandments.

There, a cluster of dancers impersonating liberal activists waved signs with slogans like "No Moore!" and "Keep God Out!! No God in Court." The boy Moore danced a harangue, first lurching toward his tormentors and then cringing back in outrage before breaking through their line to lunge for his monument. But the dancers in trench coats -- agents of atheism -- got hold of it first and took it away, leaving him abject on the floor. As the song's uplifting chorus played -- "After you've done all you can, you just stand" -- a dancer in a white robe, playing either an angel or God himself, came forward and helped the Moore character to his feet.

The performance ended to enthusiastic applause from a crowd that included many Alabama judges and politicians, as well as Roy Moore himself, a gaunt man with a courtly manner and the wrath of Leviticus in his eyes. Moore has become a hero to those determined to remake the United States into an explicitly Christian nation. That reconstructionist dream lies at the red-hot center of our current culture wars, investing the symbolic fight over the Ten Commandments -- a fight whose outcome seems irrelevant to most peoples' lives -- with an apocalyptic urgency.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/12/us/12vote.html?ex=1305086400&en=5b3554a76aad524a&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss

New Fears of Security Risks in Electronic Voting Systems
CHICAGO, May 11 — With primary election dates fast approaching in many states, officials in Pennsylvania and California issued urgent directives in recent days about a potential security risk in their Diebold Election Systems touch-screen voting machines, while other states with similar equipment hurried to assess the seriousness of the problem.

"It's the most severe security flaw ever discovered in a voting system," said Michael I. Shamos, a professor of computer science at Carnegie Mellon University who is an examiner of electronic voting systems for Pennsylvania, where the primary is to take place on Tuesday.

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"This is the barn door being wide open, while people were arguing over the lock on the front door," said Douglas W. Jones, a professor of computer science at the University of Iowa, a state where the primary is June 6.

The latest concern about the touch-screen machines was only the newest chapter in an emerging political and legal fight around the country over voting machines. While some voting officials defend the ease of touch-screens (similar to A.T.M.'s), some advocacy groups argue that optical scan machines, using paper ballots, are far more secure.

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In Maryland this spring, the State House of Delegates passed a bill that would have scrapped touch-screen machines, but the Senate last month took no action on the bill, effectively killing the idea.

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Computer scientists who have studied the vulnerability say the flaw might allow someone with brief access to a voting machine and with knowledge of computer code to tamper with the machine's software, and even, potentially, to spread malicious code to other parts of the voting system.

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"We're prepared for those types of problems," said Deborah Hench, the registrar of voters in San Joaquin County, Calif. "There are always activists that are anti-electronic voting, and they're constantly trying to put pressure on us to change our system."

Aviel Rubin, a professor of computer science at Johns Hopkins University, did the first in-depth analysis of the security flaws in the source code for Diebold touch-screen machines in 2003. After studying the latest problem, he said: "I almost had a heart attack. The implications of this are pretty astounding."
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jm -- That was a brilliant analysis in re ingress of Pluto into Capricorn in US's 2nd house -- Uranus into Aries on US's 4th house.

3 days after the Summer Solstice on June 24, 2012 is the precise date when Uranus 8* Aries 23' square Pluto 8* Capricorn 23' -- presaging this revolutionary square off between the freedom fighters - Uranian rebels and the global Plutonian masters will be 2 years of the early degrees of Uranus in Aries retrograding back and forth over the US's 4th house cusp (Aries)-- with Pluto opposing the early Cancer stellium straddling the 8th cusp in the Sibley chart. Maybe the Mayans were on to something afterall! Time to shapeshift oudda here...Ph

Transits for June 2012
Jun 24, 2012
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Fascism in America won’t come with jackboots, book burnings, mass rallies, & fevered harangues, nor will it come with black helicopters - tanks on the street. It won’t come like a storm—but as a break in the weather, that sudden change of season you might feel when the wind shifts on an October evening. Everything is the same, but everything has changed. Something has gone, departed from the world, & a new reality will have taken its place. All the old forms will still be there: legislatures, elections, campaigns -but “consent of the governed” will no longer apply; actual control of the state will have passed to a small & privileged group who rule for the benefit of their wealthy peers & corporate patrons.

To be sure, there will be factional conflicts among the elite & a degree of debate will be permitted; but no one outside the privileged circle will be allowed to influence state policy. Dissidents will be marginalized—usually by “the people” themselves. Deprived of historical knowledge by a thoroughly impoverished educational system designed to produce complacent consumers, left ignorant of current events by a corporate media devoted solely to profit, many will internalize the force-fed values of the ruling elite, and act accordingly. There will be little need for overt methods of control.

The rulers will act in secret, for reasons of “national security,” & the people will not be permitted to know what goes on in their name. Actions once unthinkable will be accepted as routine - government by executive fiat, state murder of “enemies” selected by the leader, undeclared wars, torture, mass detentions without charge, the looting of the national treasury, the creation of huge new “security structures” targeted at the populace. In time, this will be seen as “normal,” as the chill of autumn feels normal when summer is gone. It will all seem normal.

Chris Floyd, November 10, 2001 Moscow Times
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Global_Media_Lightning_Headlines/

"Consent of the governed will no longer apply"

We've already passed that juncture...what's next?

John Conyers (D-MI) asks Gonzales to Appoint Special Counsel to Investigate Phone Jamming
http://www.senatemajority.com/node/293

The FM in Scorpio square Neptune is officially in full swing. Ph

Is Venezuela the New Niger?
The Bush Administration is Trying to Link Hugo Chavez to Iran's Nuclear Program

By LARRY BIRNS and MICHAEL LETTIERI

Washington is no stranger to flimsy pretexts when it comes to justifying its ill-conceived, and at times illicit, Latin American initiatives. The contra epoch, the Bay of Pigs invasion, the Cuban missile crisis, Ollie North, former U.S. ambassador John Negroponte's skullduggery in Honduras, and countless acts of chicanery aimed at Havana, Santiago, Grenada and Guatemala come to mind.

A spate of articles tying Hugo Chávez to Iran's covert nuclear program suggests that Washington may now be finding it increasingly difficult to resist further calumniating Venezuela by working to forge a new weapon for its anti-Caracas jihad.

The only problem is that the basis for such a charge would be a complete concoction, more worthy to be put to work in Iraq, where anything goes, than in Latin America. Such a scenario would intimate that ties exist between alleged Venezuelan uranium supplies and the Iranian nuclear program. In other words, Caracas would be presented as a terrorist nation, illicitly involved in trafficking bootleg uranium to the pariah Iranian regime in exchange for nuclear devices and maybe other considerations.

The Plot

In the fall of 2005, Venezuelan officials began to explore the possibility of acquiring nuclear reactor technology from either Argentina or Brazil, both of which have nuclear energy programs and facilities for peaceful use. This maneuver provoked a predictably prickly response from the State Department, which made no effort to disguise the fact that it would not be amused if this transaction would be carried out. While no agreement was ever reached or shipments made, Caracas already had established close political ties with Tehran, which became yet another reason why the White House was suspicious of Chávez's ultimate intent. Iran's decision to resume enrichment of uranium this year, which has now provoked an international uproar, also brought new scrutiny to the purported burgeoning relationship between that nation and Venezuela. At the U.N., Caracas helped fuel such suspicions, as Venezuela was one of only a handful of member nations that expressed support for Iran's resumption of peaceful nuclear activity which would effectively not be under the U.N.'s supervision.

The wide-ranging, if somewhat vague, cooperation agreements between Iran and Venezuela were repeatedly reiterated by Washington sources to suggest that more malignant factors might be at play. The most popular rumor had Caracas sending its uranium to Iran in exchange for nuclear technology, with the most radical version beginning with accusations that Caracas was seeking to obtain weaponry from Tehran. Some went so far as to suggest that nuclear devices already had been clandestinely transported to Venezuela on chartered oil tankers. Further speculative intrigue came about after the expulsion of the New Tribes missionaries from the Amazonas region in February, as stampeding rumors began to circulate that the evangelical group was somehow involved in uranium exploration activities in the state of Bolívar and that the missionaries' airstrip was facilitating such anti-Chávez operations. The allegations, which included purported links to the CIA, were heatedly denied by the group.

Much to do about Nothing

Yet all of these theories concerning some diabolic plot linking Iran to Hugo Chávez have been entirely based on a handful of anemic charges coming from several former Chávez officials, who, at best, merely quote each other, but fail to advance the core of their charge or provide minimum evidence that Venezuela somehow has been complicit with Iran when it came to supplying uranium to the latter. In turn, their diaphanous allegations are now being picked up by kindred rightwing sources domiciled in the U.S. who write enraged op-eds in Rev. Moon's Washington Times ("Showdown with Chávez") or get like-minded congressional colleagues to make rabid speeches from the floor of congress accusing Chávez of striving to hatch a nuclear plot with Tehran or some other threatening complot.

While the rumors sometimes involve an alleged Israeli intelligence report which speaks of covert uranium mining in Venezuela, the so-called findings have never been seen, let alone validated. In fact, while Venezuela may possess some yet to be established uranium deposits, there is no evidence that these have been located, let alone worked. Venezuelan officials have vehemently denied charges that the country is facilitating the enrichment of uranium by the Iranians, and even the State Department has minimized such suggestions, noting that while it is "aware of reports of possible Iranian exploitation of Venezuelan uranium," it does not see any "commercial uranium activities in Venezuela." Furthermore, the speculated ties overlook the fact that Iran does not particularly need to import uranium all the way from Venezuela for its projects, as it has ample supplies of its own.

All of this likely matters little to the Bush administration, which is likely feeling increased pressure from its own policy hardliners to take an anti-Chávez stand. The recent Bolivian gas nationalization has been cited by extra conservative pundits, whose knowledge of Latin America is barely enough for them to cite Venezuela's capital city as evidence of the pernicious spread of Chavista influence.

They also derisively point to the lack of any U.S. response to this challenge. Such militancy on their part, combined with Washington's growing tension with Iran, may make the time ripe for some form of diplomatic or even a retaliatory response to allegations of Venezuela's special relationship with Tehran and other manifestations of anti-U.S. behavior.

Such a step by Washington would be entirely predicated on rumors, inventions, and conjecture--a script, at this point at least, entirely based on phony or no evidence--like the spurious yellowcake of Niger which provided the basis for U.S. intervention in Iraq. By conceivably tying Chávez into the Iranian crisis, the Bush administration possibly could be laying the groundwork for its own dirty tricks campaign.

Yet the world would be well-advised to be wary of such machinations: mysterious vials, contrived satellite images, or fuzzy photographs are now beginning to be employed for tendentiously-pursued, if illusory, ends by a brigade of Chávez-bashers serving under a variety of self-serving ideological gods.

Larry Birns is director of the Council on Hemispheric Affairs.

Michael Lettieri is a research fellow at COHA.
http://www.counterpunch.org/birns05102006.html

It's taken awhile to catch up, but well worth oaring along the stream of consciousness, the excellent links, and strings of fellowship.

Philomena, how Uranian that you found the site at this juncture. Your posts are treasures.

wv, i agree. We're long past consent of the governed. And Pat's links are proof of it.

One thing i'm wondering is whether or not others are experiencing similar Philomena dreams (see above). It was interesting that Judi had just accessed a book about twins and the coincidental archtypal inferences of good/evil.

My dreams too have been along the same vein. People perpetuaing despitcable acts upon one another and then last night the dreams took a twist. I held a women -- one who had committed atrocities -- in my arms. She wept, and i felt this sense of deep and transcending compassion for her. She could not undue what she had done.

On a mundane level, the above dream could well represent self forgiving the shadow self, which i'm thankful for. However, the dreams also seem to resonate on some "other" level.

Perhaps these dreams are hinting at another breakthrough in consciousness?

Sally, Monday night 8:00 p.m. eastern, W is going to give a major address to the nation on immigration. Any astrological thoughts?

Karen -- thank you for your kind remarks. In retrospect of the past 48 hours of some of the most authentic celestial communiques I have enganged in recently -- I see that when I started on my FM journeying on the internet to retrieve information (which I usually initiate about 3 1/2 days before the exact moment of the lunation) there was a grand water trine -- Mars in Cancer - Jupiter in Scorpio - Uranus in Pisces facilitating the process.
Ordinarily I write and post on a group called I_Predict -- but the owner of the group recently experienced a horrific family tragedy -- and with the loss of his vibrant Aries Solar energies -- (Aquarius rising, too) -- the group lost direction and just petered out. Very little is posted on the group now -- and for the most part -- there is next to nothing in exchange or feedback. We were all so shocked by our fearless leader's family tragedy -- that it is best for me to let the groups soul heal in it own time -- and we'll pick up the mercurial threads when the time is right.
I am now going to set up a chart for the time I first contacted Sally and requested permission to post on Astroworld.
Blessings, Ph

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FORGIVE MY TYPING I READ THE ENTRIES BUT NEVER SEND THEM GOOD LUCK I ALSO PROVIDED THIS INFO TO A FRIEND'S MOTHER IN CHICAGO AREA AND HER PROBLEM WAS HORRENDOUS BUT GOT IT RESOLVED THRU AN ENROLLED AGENT. IRS HAD ALSO TURNED HER DOWN BUT AGENT DEALT WITH EVERYTHING,

Thank you Michael from nyc your information about zionism and Israel and the jewish people brings light that some people need to see.

JudiG, the IRS and State Franchise Tax boards can make your life a living hell. The advice from Dennis take it, I now have a tax attorney after the IRS and State cleaned my pockets (and like you I didn't owe them). Nowadays I make sure I have more going out of my paycheck to them then they need and consider it a boon when I get my tax returns. Legal assistance got them off my back, ended their direct contact with me, and saved my sanity. I have a stellium in Taurus 2nd house, jupiter venus and mercury, I get very upset when something messes with my financial stability (moon dignified in cancer conj uranus in the 4th).

I have been feeling a sense of dread also.

A country cannot go on and on doing the damage that our government has wreaked on that of other governments and the destruction that they have caused in the lives of so many innocent people and the earth they live on.
Eventually it is inevitable that there will be a shovel with a big bowl of hot steaming karma to ingest.

I don't believe these mindless dim witted people who came out of from under their rocks when they realized they had a leader who 'thunk like they do' actually realize that we all as a country are responsible for the damage these lizard brained power nuts have been inflicting on others and in our name.

Whether we were aware of what was really happening or not, the fact is we should have been
aware because as a country we are responsible for who we elect and for what they do.
Unfortunately while they hide away safely in their underground bunkers it is we the people with our duct tape and plastic, who will reap the bitter fruit that they have so carelessly sown.

I'm thinking something that would be really "big" that's coming might be one of those bombs that knocks out the electrical grid. I have heard that nothing electrical works after one of these and it doesn't come back either it has to be all, everything rebuilt over again.

It would be a real knock out blow of a disaster for the US. There wouldn't even be the power to flip the switch to bomb anyone back. But it sure would be quiet and the gas problem would certainly be solved.
selah

Celestial Shamanka aka Philomena Joined Astroworld on
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My dear DEDACHERRY - AT 2:45PM -- about the moment you may have written this astonishingly insightful commentary -- I was in my kitchen rummaging around the fridge and trying to decide if I wanted to juice my lunch today -- and that very exact thought about the taking out of an electrical grid came to mind -- as I was musing to myself -- I wondered to myself how I would be able to juice my veggies when their is a massive electrical failure due to an attack?

Dread is the beginning of a shamanic journey -- a sense that there is an impending diaster,danger,threat or sense of annihilation is fully present -- individuals with a strong Uranian or Plutonian theme in their chart experience these *voids* *involuntary shifts* and *internal quakes* when they are being called from the otherside of the veil to walk through time to another dimension in consciousness. I suggest that when these "sacred moments" occur -- if you are in the position to do so -- that you immediately create a sacred space in your enviroment -- (could be anywhere -- around your computer -- in your garden -- or a room in the house where you feel safe and secure) and begin to process the feelings -- intuitions. Drumming or listening to natural music or sounds is one of the more effective ways to allow your whole being to connect with the spirit of the moment.
Let the dread reveal the vision or eternal truth of the moment -- as we have the whole of the universe within our consciousness as well as without.

Take Care, Blessings PH

I just had a rare multidimensional glimpse of "we the peoples" future -- June 24, 2012 -the date when Uranus 8* Aries 23' squares Pluto 8* Capricorn 23'. The Total Eclipse of the Sun on March 29th, 2006 was in 8* Aries 36'. This total eclipse has triggered the darkening of the light of "we the people" and sealed our fates in our 4th house for the next 6 years -- but the promise is that we now hold the seed of new light (for a while underground) but will ultimately prevail to bring about the overthrow of this neo dem-con fascist dictatorship vis-a-vis the first partile contact that Uranus makes to Pluto that is the same degree of Aries as was this eclipse degree - 8 Aries 36
"Not Light but Darkness
First he climbed up to heaven
Then he plunged into the depth of the earth
Here the climax of the darkening is reached. The dark power at first held so high a place that it could wound all who were on the side of the good and of the light. But in the end it perishes of its own darkness, for evil must itself fall at the very moment when it has wholly consummed the energy to which it owed its duration."
I Ching - Hexagramm 36 - Top Line

Take Good Heart My Dear Fellows -- so long as we know the number of days -- remaining to our oppressors -- we shall never lose hope.

Thanks to all of your goodwill herein this has become one of the clearest and most decisive lunation journeys in all of my celestial shamanic days. I see the end of our darkness and the end is LIGHT.
Blessings, Ph

I read into this "backward-forward" movement of light to mean that we are on the advent of "time travel" --- And looking at my progressed chart today I noticed my progressed Moon in Cancer is exactly conjunct with my progressed Uranus in Cancer in my natal 9th house.
This explains the "Uranian" connection with astroworld perfectly.
Ph

In the past few years, scientists have found ways to make light go both faster and slower than its usual speed limit, but now researchers at the University of Rochester have published a paper today in Science on how they've gone one step further: pushing light into reverse. As if to defy common sense, the backward-moving pulse of light travels faster than light. Confused? You're not alone.
http://www.physorg.com/news66582110.html

Rove Informs White House He Will Be Indicted
By Jason Leopold
t r u t h o u t | Report

Friday 12 May 2006

Karl Rove told President Bush and Chief of Staff Joshua Bolten, as well as a few other high level administration officials, within the last week that he will be indicted in the CIA leak case and will immediately resign his White House job when the special counsel publicly announces the charges against him, according to people knowledgeable about these discussions.

Details of Rove's discussions with the president and Bolten have spread through the corridors of the White House where low-level staffers and senior officials were trying to determine how the indictment would impact an administration that has been mired in a number of high-profile political scandals for nearly a year, said a half-dozen White House aides and two senior officials who work at the Republican National Committee.

Speaking on condition of anonymity, sources confirmed Rove's indictment is imminent. These individuals requested anonymity saying they were not authorized to speak publicly about Rove's situation. A spokesman in the White House press office said they would not comment on "wildly speculative rumors."

Rove's attorney, Robert Luskin, did not return a call for comment Friday.

Rove's announcement to President Bush and Bolten comes more than a month after he alerted the new chief of staff to a meeting his attorney had with Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald in which Fitzgerald told Luskin that his case against Rove would soon be coming to a close and that he was leaning toward charging Rove with perjury, obstruction of justice and lying to investigators, according to sources close to the investigation.

A few weeks after he spoke with Fitzgerald, Luskin arranged for Rove to return to the grand jury for a fifth time to testify in hopes of fending off an indictment related to Rove's role in the CIA leak, sources said.

That meeting was followed almost immediately by an announcement by newly-appointed White House Chief of Staff Joshua Bolten of changes in the responsibilities of some White House officials, including Rove, who was stripped of his policy duties and would no longer hold the title of deputy White House chief of staff.

The White House said Rove would focus on the November elections and his change in status in no way reflected his fifth appearance before the grand jury or the possibility of an indictment.

But since Rove testified two weeks ago, the White House has been coordinating a response to what is sure to be the biggest political scandal it has faced thus far: the loss of a key political operative who has been instrumental in shaping White House policy on a wide range of domestic issues.

Late Thursday afternoon and early Friday morning, several White House officials were bracing for the possibility that Fitzgerald would call a news conference and announce a Rove indictment today following the prosecutor's meeting with the grand jury this morning. However, sources close to the probe said that is unlikely to happen, despite the fact that Fitzgerald has already presented the grand jury with a list of charges against Rove. If an indictment is returned by the grand jury, it will be filed under seal.

Rove is said to have told Bolten that he will be charged with perjury regarding when he was asked how and when he discovered that covert CIA operative Valerie Plame Wilson worked for the agency, and whether he discussed her job with reporters.

Rove testified that he first found out about Plame Wilson from reading a newspaper report in July 2003 and only after the story was published did he share damaging information about her CIA status with other reporters.

However, evidence has surfaced during the course of the two-year-old investigation that shows Rove spoke with at least two reporters about Plame Wilson prior to the publication of the column.

The explanation Rove provided to the grand jury - that he was dealing with more urgent White House matters and therefore forgot - has not convinced Fitzgerald that Rove has been entirely truthful in his testimony.

Sources close to the case said there is a strong chance Rove will also face an additional charge of obstruction of justice, adding that Fitzgerald has been working meticulously over the past few months to build an obstruction case against Rove because it "carries more weight" in a jury trial and is considered a more serious crime.

Some White House staffers said it's the uncertainty of Rove's status in the leak case that has made it difficult for the administration's domestic policy agenda and the announcement of an indictment and Rove's subsequent resignation, while serious, would allow the administration to move forward on a wide range of issues.

"We need to start fresh and we can't do that with the uncertainty of Karl's case hanging over our heads," said one White House aide. "There's no doubt that it will be front page news if and when (an indictment) happens. But eventually it will become old news quickly. The key issue here is that the president or Mr. Bolten respond to the charges immediately, make a statement and then move on to other important policy issues and keep that as the main focus going forward."

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Jason Leopold spent two years covering California's electricity crisis as Los Angeles bureau chief of Dow Jones Newswires. Jason has spent the last year cultivating sources close to the CIA leak investigation, and is a regular contributor to t r u t h o u t. He is the author of the new book NEWS JUNKIE. Visit www.newsjunkiebook.com for a preview.
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Oh, a very GOOD one, Philomena! Thanks! ;O)

MSNBC.com

A Fresh Focus on Cheney
Handwritten notes by the Vice President surface in the Fitzgerald probe.

WEB EXCLUSIVE
By Michael Isikoff
Newsweek
Updated: 9:56 a.m. ET May 14, 2006

May 13, 2006 - The role of Vice President Dick Cheney in the criminal case stemming from the outing of White House critic Joseph Wilson's CIA wife is likely to get fresh attention as a result of newly disclosed notes showing that Cheney personally asked whether Wilson had been sent by his wife on a "junket" to Africa.

Cheney's notes, written on the margins of a July 6, 2003, New York Times op-ed column by former ambassador Joseph Wilson, were included as part of a filing Friday night by prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald in the perjury and obstruction case against ex-Cheney chief of staff I. Lewis (Scooter) Libby.

The notes, Fitzgerald said in his filing, show that Cheney and Libby were "acutely focused" on the Wilson column and on rebutting his criticisms of the White House's handling of pre-Iraq war intelligence. In the column, which created a firestorm after its publication, Wilson wrote that he had been dispatched by the CIA without pay to Niger in February 2002 to investigate an intelligence report that Iraq was seeking uranium from the African country for a nuclear bomb. Wilson said he was told Cheney had asked about the intelligence, but the White House subsequently ignored his findings debunking the Niger claims.

In the margins of the op-ed, Cheney jotted out a series of questions that seemed to challenge many of Wilson's assertions as well as the legitimacy of his CIA-sponsored trip to Africa: "Have they done this sort of thing before? Send an Amb. [sic] to answer a question? Do we ordinarily send people out pro bono to work for us? Or did his wife send him on a junket?"

It is extremely rare, if not unprecedented, for Cheney's own notes to be made public. The notes—apparently obtained as a result of a grand jury subpoena—would appear to make Cheney an even more central witness than had been previously thought in the criminal probe. Fitzgerald's prosecution has created continued problems for the White House. Karl Rove, the President Bush's chief political adviser, recently made his fifth grand jury appearance in the case and remains under scrutiny while Fitzgerald weighs whether to file criminal charges against him. For now, Libby is the only figure charged in the case.

Lea Ann McBride, a spokeswoman for the vice president, declined to comment on the newly disclosed notes. "We continue to cooperate in the investigation as we have since its inception," she said.

Fitzgerald first alleged that Cheney had questioned whether Wilson's trip was a "junket" in a court filing last month. In that filing, Fitzgerald also asserted that the vice president, acting with the approval of President Bush, had authorized Libby to disclose portions of the classified National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq to rebut some of Wilson's claims.

But the notes provide significant new context to that assertion. They show the vice president personally raised questions about Wilson's trip right after the publication of the Wilson column—and five days before Libby confirmed to Time reporter Matt Cooper that he had "heard" that Wilson's wife, former CIA agent Valerie Plame, had played a role in sending him to Africa.

Libby, questioned by the FBI and by federal prosecutors in two grand jury appearances, denied providing that confirmation to Cooper and insisted he had heard about Wilson's wife a day or two earlier from NBC News "Meet the Press" host Tim Russert—an account that Fitzgerald charged in an indictment last October was a lie. Fitzgerald in his court filing indicated he plans to introduce a copy of Cheney's annotated version of the Wilson column to show the vice president's interest in the circumstances surrounding Wilson's trip was an important matter to Libby that week and explains many of his actions. Those actions, according to the indictment, include discussing Plame's employment at the CIA—a matter Fitzgerald has said was classified at the time—with New York Times reporter Judy Miller on July 8, 2003.

Fitzgerald also said in his court filing that he plans to introduce a copy of Robert Novak's July 14, 2003, newspaper column that first identified Plame as a CIA "operative" who worked issues related to weapons of mass destruction. Fitzgerald said he will do so in order to introduce evidence about a series of conversations that he argued could undercut one of Libby's principal defenses: that he had no reason to believe Plame's employment was a sensitive matter and therefore had no reason to lie to the grand jury about when and with whom he spoke about it.

According to Fitzgerald's filing, on the day that the Novak column was published, a CIA official was asked in Libby's presence by another Cheney aide whether he had read the column. The CIA official had not. But shortly thereafter, the unidentified CIA official discussed in Libby's presence "the dangers posed by disclosure of the CIA affiliation of one of its employees as had occurred in the Novak column," Fitzgerald wrote.

This evidence, Fitzgerald added, "directly contradicts" the assertion by defense lawyers that Libby "had no motive to lie" to the FBI and to the grand jury because he "thought that neither he nor anyone else had done anything wrong." Instead, Fitzgerald asserts, "the evidence about the conversation concerning the Novak column provides a strong motive for the defendant to provide false information and testimony about his disclosures to reporters."

A spokeswoman for Libby declined comment on the filing.

© 2006 MSNBC.com

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