Oh, Cap'n Sally, you have responded magnificently to a post I made a few months ago about the #($*#@*( corporations. That 1886 "footnote" has long interested me, beginning many decades ago when I was in my teens and stumbled across mention of it, for it seems to be the key ingredient in the Devil's Brew in which we are stewing. Thank you thank you thank you!! The wait was worth it!

"My country 'tis of thee, sweet land of liberty . . "

It's grim, it's very grim but your "that is going to change over the next few years, there is the opportunity for real world wide life altering change," gives hope. We can hang on for the world to begin to turn. Thank you.

Excelent! Great research. Thanks.

I meant excellent!!!!

Sally this is just wonderful! Thank you so much for this promised article on corporations! I look forward to reading more as things progress.

Fits right in! Be prepared to puke:
http://www.internationalreports.net/middleeast/dubai/2005/financial.html

In Nigeria, militants have kidnapped some officials from an oil company, three are American. The militants are demanding more money for their country from the oil companies or they will kill these officials. So now we have oil terrorists, hmmmm. Maybe just extremely desperate people with nothing left to lose. We will tragically see more of this in the future, there will be a war between the haves and have nots all over the world, sadly brought on by the obscene greed of the "haves."

The 10 degree Capricorn factor is most interesting.
I think we can count on the haves bringing plenty of damage to themselves with their infighting. Especially with Pluto along to help them destruct.

At first I was hesitant to draw any conclusions about the Galactic Center, but I'm beginning to think there is definitely something going on.
Tonight I heard a physicist on the radio say that all the galaxies have a black hole at the center.
I mentioned before that black holes are apparently vacuum cleaners for waste from stellar activity. Stars being born and dying.
Considering that Pluto is the cosmic plumber, maybe all the stepped up negativity now is a waste removal going on. Pluto and the mass geopolitical garbage could be getting a workout. Certainly the religious hypocrisy is whirling around with golden temples coming down and religious fenzy at a high high pitch. I would think some of it would be going down the drain.

If this is so, I also think that the core of our faith in the goodness of life is being agitated and disseminated on the earth for those who want it. To replace the false beliefs. Out of every evil act, a good one is born. If we're honest with ourselves and feel we're worthy, I think genuine faith is ours to embrace with protection included.

There is no reason to let the evil acts of people dominate our perceptions of life on earth, considering that for every bad deed there is a good one. Maybe this Galactic visit will strengthen the visibility of the positive, at least in our own eyes. It's a good idea sometimes to pay attention to the light giving activities that are always occurring, although not in the headlines.

And I think that the center of our universe being opened now is offering us an unusual glimpse into the cosmic connection. I think maybe pressures on the earthly plane make this a necessity. Encourage us to reconnect us with something divine.

The Haves and the Have Nots....on which side of the fence do we fall? To the victims of Katrina, I am rich. I have a nice house, nice car, a career. To those spending their time fighting amongst themselves in Iraq and the starving child in Africa, I am wealthy beyond their imagination. Yet, compared to shieks, the Bushes, and the Hollywood A listers, I am definately a Have Not. So who ARE the Haves and the Have Nots? Which are we ("we" being the majority of hard working people in the US who have a pillow for their head, but who dream of better places). Astrolgocially speaking, which side of the fence do we fall?

Sally, this sweeping anaylsis is right on target. I was scratching my head when the Dubai controversy first came to light. It wasn't because "we the people" have a legitimate reason for being angry. Rather, it was because globalization has been occuring for quite some time. (Many cities throughout the US do not "own" their water resources; these being operated by uber-national corporations with home bases in Germany. There are so many other examples.)

So, though i'm glad the "waking up" is now occuring, it is long overdue.

Thank you, Sally. This was great!
karen

While I'm still in a philosophical mood (this may sound off subject, but it's not really...last night I watched a movie of a few years..."Instinct" with Cuba Gooding, Jr and Anthony Hopkins..about a man who lived with (and studied) apes, killed several men for killing the apes and was brought back to the US for psychological evalulation prior to trial. VERY interesting how it parallels what is happening to us today...illusions, so many of us are under the spell of our illusions.

jm's comment: "...Pluto and the mass geopolitical garbage could be getting a workout. Certainly the religious hypocrisy is whirling around with golden temples coming down and religious fenzy at a high high pitch. I would think some of it would be going down the drain. ..."

If one googles "churches burned in US," one can see a whole lot (not compared to how many there are...) of religious "temples" comin' down... including catholic ones. Burn here, burn there, everywhere a burn-burn. Some have said that mebbe it's insurance money the congregations are after... mebbe the Islamic congregations are after money?! No?

The "haves" would be the ones who would do anything and step on anyone for a buck, they might be going up or down the ladder it doesn't matter. It isn't a dollar and cents issue, it's a poverty of spirit issue. The "haves" don't care if you live or die as long as they get theirs.

They are people who value nothing and no one, not one living thing except their own agenda and will create human and environmental tragedy after tragedy to have what they think they want. Those are the "haves." and you find them from all walks of life.

Wonderful, Sally. This is the best article I've seen on the big global shift that is becoming more and more apparent every day. We're certainly going to need fair and just representative governments to protect us from "Manchurian Global" as the remake movie refers to its multi-national corporation. Down with governments that are just corporate puppets.

The Monday night new moon will be conjunct my natal Mars & Saturn conjunction in Pisces. (As if I wasn't having enough fun already.) Transiting Pluto has been conjunct my 8th House Venus for a while now, and every personal relationship in my life has changed.

Saw a headline, "Pluto has two new moons" I guess they mean "new" to us.

Will close by going from bad to verse:

Bush says, "Rich Carlyle Group Arabs are A-OK;
poor Arabs I bomb, and send to Abu Ghraib."

Sally, thank you for your new article-- it is very interesting and thought provoking. (And i cant even begin to think what this new moon inthe 5th house would mean!) Please forgive off topic post, but of all the "conspiracy" theories i have read this really raises pretty basic issues that need answers -- so basic that i dont understand why they havent been raised before: http://tbrnews.org/Archives/a2162.htm
even if it does come from a questionable site, the author appears authentic.

Excellent article Sally. For those who have not seen it I highly recommend the film The Corporation, which came out a couple of years ago. One of the co-directors did Manufacturing Consent. The film traces the history of the "corporation," focusing attention on that 1886 Supreme Court decision. There is some excellent commentary by a host of figures including Chomsky, Michael Moore and others.

I should have provided this link:
http://www.zeitgeistfilms.com/homevideo.php

Congrats, Sally, this is an excellent piece. I printed it out for my Mundane astro articles file. You have a permanent, pre-eminent spot in my file cabinet! Corporatism is the new serfdom. That thought isn't new or even original but it resonates. Corporations are another level of warlords controlling, apportioning and sanctioning (for themselves) the resources of the world. Before too long "we" will probably have to pay "them" clean air rental fees per square foot of living space in which we reside. ENRON was in hopes of buying the Florida Everglades, bottling that water and selling it back to all of us who "own" America. The deal fell through when it went bankrupt taking many peoples' lifetime retirement dollars with it. I could go on forever. Thank you again for this wonderful article. -- Claudia

You are so right Claudia, look at the services we pay for now that once were free, such as putting air in your tires at filling stations, a friend of mine told me the other day that at her beauty shop she got a hair cut ($75.00) and if she wanted it blown dry it would cost another $10. The list goes on and on so a price on breathing clean air in a world they have fouled, wouldn't suprise me.

The UAE: Bush's Done Dubai Deal

10:26 AM 2/26/06 Sun

With the Moon and Neptune in exact conjunction overhead at Penn's Landing, I thought this would be a perfect time to write this essay...

This week's column by Charles Krauthammer accurately frames the issues swirling around the now held-up ports deal brokered between the Bush Administration and the United Arab Emirates, which is the home of the shipping giant Dubai Ports World. As we all know, some 6 key ports in the USA are up for grabs, with the former outfit being British-run, out of the picture, and the UAE's boys in. But, not so fast - both the loyal opposition Democrats, AND not a few Republicans, are bent on at least slowing the deal down, if not killing it outright. For now, they have the first round. It remains to be seen whether they will, however, win the bout.

Krauthammer is correct in saying that the very same people who made such a stink about Racial Profiling in airports and subways, are the ones who now demand that out ports be run only by folks who look like Americans - and since not many Americans run ports these days, the Brits would do (as long as they were White, or at least not Arab looking). He's also correct, on the other hand, to point out that not only would DPW, but ANY ports outfit would by definition have access to critical security information. Of course, and these are my thoughts here, the fact that DPW has successfully run ports for other countries around the world without incident (while countries like uh, the UK have had subway bombings in "Londonistan") doesn't matter in the slightest; lest we forget, we mustn't be confused by the facts. Forget the fact that the UAE has been one of the USA's largest allies in the Middle East and Islamic World against Terrorism; true, they aren't as democratic as we'd like them to be - but then again, Pakistan isn't a paragon of free electoral virtue either, and yet, President Musharraf has literally risked his life on more than one occasion to help the USA out.

Still though, the fact remains that out of some 4 million people in the UAE, only two have been involved in the Terror Attacks on Sep 11 (compared with at least 5 times as many who hailed from Saudi Arabia, the birthplace of Osama Bin Laden - oh, and by the way, the Saudis have really gone out on a limb to fight Terror, too.). Not to make light of the situation, but really, come on folks - two people don't a Terrorist State make.

While conspiracy theorists, party loyalists, nativists, stomp-down racists, hard-core leftists and Islamophobes, astrological or non, yammer on about this wholle thing, it might be useful for the rest of us free and clear thinkers to consider the astrological evidence:

United Arab Emirates Dec 2 1971 12PM USZ3, Dubai; Placidus 27 Aqr 44, Campion

This chart represents the founding of the UAE, and plays a crucial role in our examination of the DPW ports deal. It's interesting to note that this chart, like so many charts representing the Middle Eastern countries, has significant planetary activity in the Mutuable Signs; in this case, that of the UAE, no less than 7 planets are in Mutuable Signs. Which means that the UAE, for better or worse, would be effected in a big by the transits of Pluto, Uranus and eventually, Saturn.

According to The Rulership Book by Rex Bills, the Moon and Neptune represent "ports"; by extension, we can add the 4th House as well. In the UAE chart, we can see the Full Moon in Gemini (the UAE being a conglomeration of smaller kingdoms) in the 4th House, opposing Neptune and Jupiter, and square Mars, rising in the 1st House in Pisces. Mercury, the ruler of the 4th, is placed in the 10th at the 28th degree of Sagittarius - the Pluto transit in conjunction is right around the corner.

The radical jihadist elements in its midst can be seen by noting the planet ruling the 12th House of secret enemies and terrorists; here it is Saturn in Gemini, which, if we go back to the astrological moment when the WTC was struck, had Saturn in Gemini. There's our tie-in of the UAE, in the form of a few of the hijackers, coming from that particular country. Pluto would play a role as well, since Saturn makes an easy trine to Pluto in the 7th House, itself at the Aries Point. The terrorists want their cause and deeds to be well known. And we can't forget Neptune, in the 9th House of Religion, in opposition to this Saturn placement - again, the terrorists act out of warped understandings of Islam.

However, note that the terrorist element in the UAE is not only a minority (Gemini symbolism, small) but so too it is vehemently in opposition to the UAE government - Saturn opposes the UAE Sun!!! AND, Saturn in this chart is not in conjunction with the UAE Moon, which moves away from Saturn. Saturn itself is Rx...suggesting a degree of isolation, of being outcastes. This is hardly a chart that would condone Terrorism.

Now, contrast that with the chart of Iran: Feb 1 1979 9.50AM IRT, Tehran; Placidus 11 Ari 30, Campion. As we all know, Iran is a terrorist-sponsoring State, giving aid and comfort to such groups as Hezbollah and others. Note Uranus, ruling the 12th House, again of secret enemies and terrorists, disposing of the Iranian Sun, Mars, and Mercury - the seat of power (Sun), the military (Mars) and media apparatus (Mercury) all explicitly help the terrorists! Note too the Iranian Moon IN the 12th House, with Uranus itself Peregrine (Tyl), running wild in the chart, dominating it in terms of its symbolism ("the revolution", etc.). Iran's astrology clearly and emphatically points to a State Sponsor of Terror. The UAE, on the other hand, clearly is not.

If you consider the charts of Syria and Libya, you'll see similar things with regard to their 12th Houses and the tie-ins they make to either the 10th House and/or Sun.

Now that we've got that out of the way, let's consider the big question: will the UAE deal go through?

Going back to the UAE's chart, it would appear so: SA Venus=Jupiter/Pluto last month, a major signal of financial success, and could indicate that that was the time when the ports deal was greenlighted by the Bush Administration (deals being signed - Venus rules the 3rd); and coming up in Apr, SA Pluto=Sun/Venus, yet another strong signal of success in business, this time with clear reference to international business (Pluto ruling the 9th). The current stink about Arabs running American ports shouldn't last much longer - remember, all this happens as Uranus squares the UAE Full Moon axis. Uranus isn't a flood like Neptune or longstanding plauge like Pluto, it's more like a twister. It'll hit and be gone, as swift as it came. The UAE has been gracious in allowing US lawmakers and so on time to review the deal, but in the end, it'll go through.

But back here at home, the American public is all in a tizzy over the whole thing, and it smacks dangerously close to Racism to me. Using the Sibly chart for the USA, we see that Neptune, representing phobias, is in the 9th House of "other people", religions and cultures. Mars, ruling the 4th - ports - squares this Neptune position from the 7th, and there you go. However, big money is on the line, shown by the upcoming arcs of Pluto=Uranus/Neptune and Mercury=Asc, both coming due in Apr. Mercury and Pluto are in the 8th and 2nd Houses respectively, and with the exactness of these Solar Arcs near, we can be sure that the deal is likely to go thru around that time, if not sooner.

As for the American public's phobia of Islam in general and Arabs in particular, we can expect to see all of that come to head around the sametime, Spring of this year; there will be much conversations, tv & radio shows, internet discussions and roundtable forums, on exactly what Islam is and isn't, and how that goes to distinguish between folks just trying to live their lives and those who want to snuff out ours (Mercury co-ruling the 9th, in opposition to Pluto natally, ruling the 7th).

Now, take a deep breath...relax...and carefully read Charles Krauthammer's article. It makes a lot of sense.

Salaam,
Mu

Harbour exit
Feb 24, 2006
by Charles Krauthammer ( bio | archive | contact )

Email to a friend Print this page Text size: A A WASHINGTON -- If only Churchill were alive today, none of this would be happening. The proud imperialist would have taken care that the Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Co., chartered in 1840 by Victoria ("by the grace of God ... Queen defender of the faith'' on "this thirty first day of December in the fourth year of our reign''), would still be serving afternoon tea and crumpets on some immaculate Jewel-in-the-Crown cricket pitch in Ceylon.

The United Arab Emirates would still be a disunited bunch of subsistence Arab tribes grateful for the protection of the British Navy in the Persian Gulf.

And we hapless Americans -- already desperately trying to mediate, pacify and baby-sit the ruins of Churchill's Empire: Iraq, Palestine, India/Pakistan, Yemen, even (Anglo-Egyptian) Sudan -- would not be in the midst of a mini-firestorm over the sale of the venerable P&O, which manages six American ports, to the UAE.

This has raised the obvious question of whether we want our ports, through which a nuclear bomb could come, handled by a country two of whose nationals flew into the South Tower on 9/11 and which has a history of laundering money and nuclear secrets from bad guys to worse guys.

Congress is up in arms. The Democrats, in particular, are in full cry, gleeful to at last get to the right of George Bush on an issue of national security.

Gleeful, and shamelessly hypocritical. If a citizen of the UAE walked into an airport in full burnoose and flowing robes, speaking only Arabic, Democrats would be deeply offended, and might even sue, if the security people were to give him any more scrutiny than they would to my sweet 84-year-old mother.

Democrats loudly denounce any thought of racial profiling. But when that same Arab, attired in business suit and MBA, and with a good record running ports in 15 countries, buys P&O, Democrats howl at the very idea of allowing Arabs to run our ports. (Republicans are howling too, but they don't grandstand on the issue of racial profiling.)

On this, the Democrats are rank hypocrites. But even hypocrites can be right. There is a problem. And the problem is not just the obvious one that an Arab-run company, heavily staffed with Arab employees, is more likely to be infiltrated by terrorists who might want to smuggle an awful weapon into our ports. But that would probably require some cooperation from the operating company. And neither the company nor the government of the UAE, which has been pro-American and a reasonably good ally in the war on terror, has any such record.

The greater and more immediate danger is that as soon as the Dubai company takes over operations, it will necessarily become privy to information about security provisions at crucial U.S. ports. That would mean a transfer of information about our security operations -- and perhaps even worse, about the holes in our security operations -- to a company in an Arab state in which there might be employees who, for reasons of corruption or ideology, would pass this invaluable knowledge on to al Qaeda-types.

That is the danger and it is a risk, probably an unnecessary one. It's not quite the end of the world that Democratic and Republican critics have portrayed it to be. After all, the UAE, which is run by a friendly regime, manages ports in other countries without any such incidents. Employees in other countries could leak or betray us just as easily. The issue, however, is that they are statistically more likely to be found in the UAE than, for example, in Britain.

It's a fairly close call. I can sympathize with the president's stubbornness in sticking to the deal. He is responsible for our foreign relations, and believes, not unreasonably, that it would harm our broader national interest to reject and humiliate a moderate Middle Eastern ally by pulling the contract just because a company is run by Arabs.

This contract should have been stopped at an earlier stage, but at this point doing so would cause too much damage to our relations with moderate Arab states. There are no very good options. The best exit strategy is this: (1) Allow the contract to go through; (2) give it heightened scrutiny by assigning a team of U.S. government agents to work inside the company at least for the first few years to make sure security is tight and information closely held; (3) have the team report every six months to both the executive and a select congressional committee.

Not nearly as clean as the Harriet Miers exit. But as I said, there are no very good options. There have not been very many since Britannia stopped ruling the waves, and it all fell to us.

Charles Krauthammer is a 1987 Pulitzer Prize winner, 1984 National Magazine Award winner, and a columnist for The Washington Post since 1985.

http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/charleskrauthammer/2006/02/24/187679.html

Timothy, you beat me to it.....I watche The Corporation last night, and couldn't believe it when Sally wrote about the very same thing. And thanks for the link to the film company, also....I think everyone needs to see this film. The first thing that struck me was the guy who said the official start of the Industrial Age was in 1712, when the first steam powered 'bucket' was used in coal mining to get the water out of the mines, instead of the miners passing buckets. A Plutonian cycle being 248 years, that gives us a date of 1960 for the end of one cycle and beginning of the next, which makes sense to me....was this the true beginning of the WORLD corporation?

Amazing film....I wanted to immediately buy a lot of them and give them to everyone I know....but I figure just telling people to check it out would do....

And Sally...Bush always said he liked the idea of a dictatorship but only if HE was the dictator....after all, he grew up with the Prince Bandar of the UAE in his home....so he saw it up close and personal, what personal power and wealth meant. No surprise....

Well, & one would think that a nation could have a better lookin' dicktator than the little pink prancin' beetle-browed drunkie/druggie AWOL/deserter one we might have. ;O)

Strawman alert! Major concern about the UAE and security of American ports has its basis in the fact that much of the funding for Al-Q went through the UAE, the "deal" specifically relieves UAE of responsibility for keeping records and other documents available on US soil and available for inspection by US officials, the UAE's royals' close relationship with Osama bin Hiding, etc. To say that objections are simply racist is an insult --not only to those who aren't racist but also to those with a brain.

The Starcats piece is timely.....once again, the planets play out what people are playing out, and there couldn't be much worse in store for American women....

It makes me physically ill to think that women are once again underfire...it is the "Handmaiden's Tale" syndrome taking place.

What gives me hope is that when injustices are SO evil and SO restrictive, the people rise up.....which is profiled in The Corporation, only in this case, it was about water (Bechtel vs. Bolivia) and seeds (India vs Monsanto) and then there is the whole evil concept of 'patenting' human genes, animal genes.....that was also sucessfully fought in India....and why is it not an issue here? After all, all of our milk is contaminated in America with the Monsanto BST/BGH.....oh that is right....corporations also own the news.

Wake up South Dakota! But with those planetary placements, it is a longshot.

P&O wasn't sold to the UAE by P&O...(Lord Inchcape) it was sold to THE CARLYLE GROUP, which sold it to UAE, which of course makes it SO much more interesting. Would Churchill have stopped THAT sale? Just wondering.. (remember the Carlyle group is a PERSON, now isn't it? Bush Sr. in fact...) Bushdruggie Dictator is merely cementing family relationships. Everything for sale in and of America? Well..that HAS been going on a long time. It just happens to be seeing the light of day....and why, astrologically, is this happening now?

And PS...Churchill and the first Lord Inchcape (P&O) were quite good friends (I have the pictures of them together on Lord Inchcape's personal yacht, which seems to be the size of a destroyer class ship - or the state of Delaware, I'm not sure which.). Too bad they weren't still around.

Adding to my previous note about 1960 as the beginning of a new cycle since the Industrial Age, it occurred to me after I wrote that that perhaps it is the beginning of the TECHNOLOGY age...!

OES...about the haves and have nots. I think there needs to be a 'base' line of some kind in terms of what we have and have not...it is a good question. As Claudia mentioned in her article at Starcats, whe is one of the 46 million without healthcare insurance. ME TOO.... compared to a peasant in Bolivia, I would have been a 'have'.....and they a have not. (Of course, we DO pay for water here, but not 1/4 of our incomes as they were forced to do by Bechtel.....they were even restricted from collecting RAINWATER for their use! talk about trenchant evil.) Now they are haves at least for water, as they beat the system and won the case against WTO/Bechtel. Time to start working on the sweatshop labor....

PS...it you paid $78 for a Liz Claiborne shirt, and the 13 year old seamstress supporting 8 people on the 10 cents she makes on making that shirt in the proscribed 6 minutes and 48 seconds she must do it in, do we even have to ASK who is and who isn't a have?

"But back here at home, the American public is all in a tizzy over the whole thing, and it smacks dangerously close to Racism to me."
Well Mu, this smacks dangerously close to mouthing the inanities of the GOP. (playing the 'race' card, which they demonize the democrats for all the time)

The furor is about George W. Bush, The Carlyle Group, shadowy and secretive deals, and the fact that this was conducted in SECRET. Not to mention the demonizing of OBL by Bush, Osama being a member of the very family close to the breast of the Bush family.

Who was it again that was flown out of the country after 9/11 when ALL other planes were grounded? Not who...more like how many 'who'...47 members of the Bin Laden family? flown home to safety by Bush....huh.

I am going to have to find "The Corporation" after reading Timothy's link to it, it sounds fascinating.

Judi, I think everyone remembers when GWB made the "dictatorship" remarks, at least those who were paying attention at that time. Rove or someone shut those remarks down really quick, he made them twice. 1960 would not have been the start of the "World Corporation" that would have been back in 1599 when the multi-nationals joined together and then other countries, in an attempt to cash in on their corporations just kept adding.

Nonetheless, by 2020 if not a bit before, they will have imploded and the march toward justice will begin again. We are just fighting the same old battles and without divine intervention, we will have the same old outcomes. I am waiting for the shoe to drop on the GOP lite Democrats

I sure hope that shoe drops soon, Cap'n Sally.

This one's for you Garry. See what you can find out about it.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x525533

oes, you bring up a good point in trying to ascertain truthfully where you stand in the world's hierarchy. We do have so much in this country, and part of why we do is our support of the corporate structure. We've enjoyed all the things they've delivered for ages and have demanded more and more. The whole collective created this and by refusing to acknowledge our parts in it, we are holding up the solution.

We all have the human void within, and most of us suffer from an unnamed emptiness that results in greed for material commodities. The plundering, stealing, and destruction of others to gain more is criminal, but a fact of life. It goes deeper than the existence of corporate businesses.

Now that the corporations have become cancerous in their growth, we have to figure out what to do. Separating completely and seeing them as the enemy, won't work, because we are all dependent on them now. They are an extension of the group and the fix will have to come from within as well. To try to control them completely is impossible. Circumstance will have to help rein them in as well.

Earlier on, we developed laws and labor unions to control the exploitation, but once again it's gotten out of control.

As long as we are feeding them they will thrive. If you honestly count up all the petroleum products you willingly consume each day, you will see the trap. No matter who's to blame, the trap is here. They exist because of our money.

So the way out is the real question. That seems to me to be a conscious way of living and withdrawal of money from as many corporations as we perceive as monstrous. We can pool our resources, trade among the group, support local businesses, recycle, and all those things. We can't directly take them down with rage, or without a replacement. We have to figure a way to wean ourselves from the addiction to their products to the extent that we consume them. The more we cut back on consumption, the weaker they become. At the same time, the practices of the companies have to be monitored but this is a gargantuan task. If we see ourselves, not as victims, but also as controlling parts of the whole, then we have a better chance of being victorious. We have to recognize our power, which is considerable.

People don't want to do these things because it's the hard way. But the more we grapple with our own desires and gain control over them, the more successful we will be, especially now that Pluto in Capricorn could be our ally.

The corporations that supply our wants and needs for survival have become like parts of our bodies. So like any diseased part, we have to consider whether we want, amputation, surgery, medicine, or alternative healing.
The most important thing is to honestly understand the realationship.
We need to be realistic.

Sally, yeh, I corrected myself later....I was confusing the Age of the Industrial Revolution with World Corporations...I think what Pluto did then was usher in the tech revolution....it had been underway for a while, but the 60's seem to have been a turning point for so much!
the Neptune Pluto conjunction happened again in the 1890's, didn't it? (1886 Santa Clara suit falls under that)

And if that giant revolutionary cycle of 500 years holds true, then from 1599 to 2099 will be the finis to it. so the waning square would be operating, no?

However, from 1892 or so and the Neptune Pluto in Gemini cycle, we are only in the first approaching square. I am doing this from memory, as I studied those huge cycles about 10 years ago....and don't have the info in front of me. but one 1/4 cycle of 120-125 years also is the range used in Howe and Strauss's book The Fourth Turning as an overall generation (4 types in one overall generation).

Terrific article once again, Sally....

Sally...you are kidding me, no? YOU HAVEN"T SEEN THE CORPORATION ????? You just wrote the script for it (except they didn't go back to 1599)...congrats on your psychic read!

Rent it from Netflixs or buy it at the zeitgeist web site.

Certainly, jm, we should watch where we spend our money, and many of us try to do just that. But we also (assuming our votes count--and that's a scary thought) need to impress upon our elected representatives to quit giving our money to the corporations who are in it only to enrich themselves. Remember how hard we had to fight to get equal funding for girls' sports? Remember how hard we had to fight to get equal opportunity for ALL persons? To me, this is the same kind of fight. Spend our collective money (i.e., taxes) as economically as possible--but also spend the money on enterprises which give back to the community (local, national and global) rather than hogging it all for themselves and their cronies. Sigh. I probably should go back under the bed for awhile.

Again, wonderful article, Cap'n Sally, and while I was chomping at the bit over the past few months for it to appear, it was worth the wait. Thank you.

PS Sally...in the movie, watch for the fellow named Ray Anderson who is CEO of a company which produces carpeting....mundane enough, but this fellow is amazing. He is a role model for corporate rebirthing. And he walks the walk ... his company will be self sustaining by 2020. His wake up call came in 1992 or 94....so it takes a while to turn things around. But the important act was to recognize the need in the first place!

And what we see with our eyes now is that these really greedy people who ARE the corporate personhoods haven't got a friggin clue - that is the crisis.

I'm not waiting for something bad to happen to anyone else to get me out of this. although it is bound to come. There's a lot that can be done personally right now.

Judi, I think we are definitely in a transition moving out of the post Industrial Revolution paradigm, where the fascist military industrial complex ruled, and on to an unknown setup. Hence the confusion and fear. The old structure is wiggling like a shot of antibiotic just hit it and it is struggling to survive hopelessly.

A lot of the stranglehold has been around the transportation of goods in the old world. The elite control of shipping lines and trade routes has controlled population distribution and whole economies. As we move on to this new computer driven age, the transporting will change. If we ideally learned to provide for ourselves more locally, the stranglehold would break. A banana from South America makes them rich. An apple from the nearby orchard is a simple inexpensive joy.
As technology increases, maybe we will be able to learn many new agricultural techniques that will be good for the environment keep production more localized. This might be necessary.

Judi, thank you so much for the reference to the Fourth Turning. For the last week I've been trying to remember the name of that book, or the author. This is wonderful. I felt a huge need to look at it right now.
One of the four is times of political restriction, which we are well into now, meaning that the end is nigh. I'd kind of like to have an idea of when that will be. I'm getting a bit aged, and I'd like to see better times before...well...

JudiG,
I'll join in your virtual monologue here..guess everyone else is out to dinner?
I'm with you!
oem, it isn't that they're Arabs in the UAE. It's that the Carlysle group bought the P&O, just back in 1999........and they will make $8.BIl on the sale to Dubi Ports. They already got their tax cuts in 2001, they should be using them to start an American Company to run the ports instead of making big bucks and avoiding the work involved!
If you check out the anonymous post above @ Feb 26 6:41, it dispells fears of "ARABS" flying planes into buildings or anything else, ( if one had such fears at this point.......) and refocuses the fear in a totally different direction!
And isn't Prince Bandar Saudi? I thought he was an illigitimate brother to Faud & Abdulla, so worthy of only an ambassadorial post, rather than ruler.
PQ

jm...you are welcome....I went to high school with Bill Strauss (with is older brother Steve in my class)....and I have a copy of the book. I liked that certain things dovetail.

Shylurker, the movie also says what you have said...that corporations use our government to do all the things they don't want to do or can't do....hence, our military going into make oil safe, or our CIA helping keep despots in place to protect corporate intersts. Is it any wonder that Congress is shilling for them? Oh...everyone, get a copy of the movie and meet back here to discuss!!!!

jm....the web site for Strauss and Howe
http://www.fourthturning.com/

"corporate rebirthing" Great phrase.
Pluto in Capricorn.

"And what we see with our eyes now is that these really greedy people who ARE the corporate personhoods haven't got a friggin clue - that is the crisis."

I think they do have a clue. That's why the stepped up desperate grab. The chips are going to fall in a way they know not. I

Hi Judi,

Thanks for taking the time out to read my missives.

Just wanted to reply to some of what you said:

JG: "But back here at home, the American public is all in a tizzy over the whole thing, and it smacks dangerously close to Racism to me."
Well Mu, this smacks dangerously close to mouthing the inanities of the GOP. (playing the 'race' card, which they demonize the democrats for all the time)

The furor is about George W. Bush, The Carlyle Group, shadowy and secretive deals, and the fact that this was conducted in SECRET. Not to mention the demonizing of OBL by Bush, Osama being a member of the very family close to the breast of the Bush family.

Who was it again that was flown out of the country after 9/11 when ALL other planes were grounded? Not who...more like how many 'who'...47 members of the Bin Laden family? flown home to safety by Bush....huh.

MU: What you just said above sounds like inaities, LOL. Really, the whole Carlye thing is so old...and Krauthammer is right, it's the height of hypocrisy for Dems on the one hand flail about when Racial Profiling is brought to bear on Arabs in airports and subways, but then they are quick to use Racial Profiling when it comes to the ports. It's intellectually dishonest AND it's political opportunism at its worst.

Look Judi, I can respect the fact that you're on teh Astro-Left and that you can't stand Bush nor anything that he does, for any reason, at anytime, anywhere in the Universe. Fine, all well and good. But at least have the guts enough to say that upfront, and have the wits to present a cogent astrological argument to back up your thesis - like I did.

On the basis of the UAE chart, proofed by Campion, I made the bold statement that it DOES NOT support Terrorism, and then presented the chart of a nation that has a documented track of doing so, Iran. Now, if you're telling me that the UAE can't be trusted -

WHERE'S your astrological evidence? I'm interested in verifiable facts, not CONspiracy theories.

And by the way, this is coming from an African American, who just happens to also be a Muslim and an Astrologer, and a small "c" conservative.

Your Serve...

Salaam,
Mu

Great article Sally.lots of depth to it.
It sent me scurrying for the ancestor book. Pierre Fauconnier was a global trader back in 1700, having been displaced from France by the uncharitable treatment by the French Catholics of the Huguenots, ( protestants)
I remember reading that he last a fortune in the South Seas Bubble ( first stock market crash by, I think the East India Trading Co.) ( I'll try to retrace my steps when I have time to sit down & read. I cross referenced it in a history book I have.
So he was a "have not" having also lost all 3 grown sons ( 2 in babyhood) and leaving it his eldest daughter, to my ancestor Magdelena, who had to sell off most of the lands he owned from Hackensack up to Glenns Falls. However he lived out his 87 years on his gentleman's estate of a 56' brick house with cellars and 200 apple trees.......................................It's all in your perspective! I would give my eye teeth for 56' of house;
but when I was teaching art to the immigrant Mexicans down the road..the first time she came to the house for a lesson. Lillia ( who lives in a trailor with 9 other family members) looked around my 9'X12" dining room and asked........." Do you live here all by yourself?"
PQ

Oh new moon in my 10th house; conjunct uranus!
I could use a change there! Guess I'll do a little ceremony tommorrow evening!
I have just realized this week, that the new roof is the DIRECT RESULT of creative visualization MAX! 4 or 5 years ago I sat here and drew 3 colored sketches of how I wanted the house to look! I settled on the rust red metal roof & voila! it's 1/2 up!
PQ

This morning the BBC had an interesting short segment on a new nuclear power plant being built in Denmark or Norway. Did not catch the whole thing, but it definitely got my attention. Apparently it is a PRIVATE rather than governmental nuclear facility. Technology from France. Deal was done with the OK of the politicians because it no taxpayer dollars used - the corporate builders of the structure are in cahoots with the majority of its future power users, which are corporate businesses. Need to find out more about it!

Thanks again, Judi.

I think it works something like this. An example being the ancient Silk Road.

The trade routes become profitable and the greed gets going. So illegal trade takes over...drugs, weapons, and other things. Unregulated, tax free, and high risk thrilling. The criminal element around the Black Market thrives and wars are created to sell the weapons. Terrorist groups are funded to incite the wars. The banks become money laundering posts for the trade. And this not only increases crime but squeezes out legitimate business. Governments are in on the profit taking and so the treasuries are raided and politicians become accomplices. It appears that the world economy is run on illegal trade and bribery.

This is the problem with UAE. They are the old BCCI, Iran Contra bunch, big time money launderers. What fool would think this has changed?
The very very good thing about all of this, is the fact that it is even being scrutinized at all. Public awareness will eventually come.

Tom Dispatch has a good interview with Mark Danner called You Can Do Anything With a Boyonet Except Sit On It.....he wrote about Abu Graib and the dicey foreign relations policies of bushfromhell.http://www.tomdispatch.com/index.mhtml?emx=x&pid=63903
Danner is now an expert on the torture practices of the U.S. military, the CIA, and the Bush administration (and his primer on the subject, Torture and Truth: America, Abu Ghraib and the War on Terror, is a must for any bookshelf). A professor at the Graduate School of Journalism at the University of California, Berkeley, his cup of tea seems to be dicey American foreign-policy situations. His book-writing career began with a now-classic volume, The Massacre at El Mozote, in which he traveled to El Salvador for the exhumation of an infamous site where over 750 Salvadorans were massacred by U.S. trained troops during Ronald Reagan's first year in office. A new book of his recent writings, The Secret Way to War, is due out in April.

Hi JM,

I have to ask - OK, let's take Afghanistan, where Heroin is King. You mean to tell me, that the US gov't is propping up the Taliban forces there against its own military? Do you mean to tell me that the terrorist with Zarqawi, who've vowed an all out war against the Shiite majority there, and who no doubt was behind the bombing of the Gold Mosque, is actually working in cahoots with the US gov't - again, against its own military??? What proof do you have of ANY of this being true? And what the heck does this have to do with Astrology???

I mean really folks, let's all get a serious grip...talk about being blinded by the left...

Salaam,
Mu

Hey everyone,
Tonight is the MahaShivaratri. One mantra round of Om Namah Shivaya = 1000 times. That is because the veil between the manifest and unmanifest is the thinnest tonight. Happy Shivarartri ya'll.

Here's something fascinating to think about. On the DU Astro thread someone brought up that * ASC is on a malefic fixed star of Praesaepe at 5 Leo. So looking up the fixed star here is what I came up with: Histrionic effects brought about by great changes in society. Star played a role in the intro of communism. Aspecting outer planets during both world wars. Associates to 'Beehive' or the cluster of planets it sits in = obedience, royalty, 'suave one',
(ewwwww). King Midas, turns things to gold but those things become useless. Midas the star, was placed into the constellation belonging Praesaepe. Prosperous, good with sales. Founder of large business. Here's the best, pile of corpses, dirge, imprisonment. With ASC Injuries to face and arms!

Mr. Bey seems to be a hit and run poster.

Pluto/Shiva on GC and MahaShivaratri : great time to clean up old karmas. Go For It! Synchronistic phone calls coming in today that cleaned up some old yukky stuff lickety split. Great timing for the darkest of moons. My studio gleaming and minimal. Candle on the puja shining. Exotic and profound Om Namah Shivaya chanting tape playing in the background. Getting ready to ride the eclipse wave, you can just feel it coming.
Om Namah Shivaya!
Happy New Moon!

Hi Again JudiG,

I'm curious: has there been ANY time where the US military did the right thing, in your eyes? If so, please tell me when?

I for one, the great-great grandson of African Slaves, am GLAD that the US military fought and died to free my people, African Americans. And I'm proud of my grandaddy, who was a US Marine Drill Sargent, who did his part to liberate Jews in Germany...and I'm proud of my daddy, who fought in Korea so that they might have the chance to be the economic and social force and example of progress that's something to really marvel at over there on the other side of the world. Sure, there have been mistakes by the US military, ANY military will make mistakes and have its share of crazies, but there is no way in hell that they are comparable to Sudan's military, of the Lourde's Resistance Army in Congo, or Saddam's Republican Guard. So for you to even attempt to suggest an equation somehow, by constantly putting down the US military, is not only delusional and devoid of any actual truth in fact, but very, very ungrateful. And please, don't try to pin the GOP button on me, I'm not a registered Republican at all, and they ain't giving me nothin' either...I just love fairness and intellectual honesty. Afterall, I have more planets in Libra than any other Sign (including Mars in Libra in the 9th - going into the heart of the Astrological Left and doing battle there).

Please explain - if you can???

Salaam,
Mu

Mu,

I have no evidence of the things you mentioned and I certainly wouldn't claim these things as fact. There are many conflicts and trades going on, and I believe that our government as well as the others in the world are involved in the illegal activity, as they've always been. As far as the specifics, I don't know yet. But I think the evidence will eventually be revealed.

The evidence of our government's involvement with drugs and weapons in Iran Contra has been proven and the bank funding the operation, BCCI was closed.

Mu....well, first of I AM NOT AN ASTROLOGER. I do not do charts for a living.....so I am not spending my time doing that. I am an artist and spend zillions of hours doing artwork. That being said, I also understand astrology. And these aren't conspiracy theories. And nowhere did I dis the people of the UAE, which is what you are implying (and the GOP mouthpieces are promoting....RACISM? give me a break). I am dissing this administrations tactics, their ideas, and everything else they do, most of which is CRIMINAL. I understand criminal. And I have done very badly financially under the two adminsitrations of chimp jr and sr. GWHB the arab potentate himself. The entire Bush family is criminal. All the brothers, the father, the grandfather (who was the financier to Hitler). Check your history books before you yell at me. AND, btw, the Earl of Inchcape (P&O Shipping) DIDN'T SELL TO THE UAE....HE SOLD P&O TO CARLYLE. You ignore that Krauthammer got it wrong. As he does many things. He is one of the grimmest men I've ever heard speak.

Hi Bhakti,

No, I don't hit and run; I post when I can; it's called having a life and a job.

And, what the heck are you talking about? Sounds like you're trying to blend Western Astrology with Vedic, and doing quite a bad job of it; I've been deeply into Vedic astrology since the late 90s, and know BS when I hear it. Talk straight and make a cogent astrological argument with the standard planets and holla back.

Pardon me when I light up some Nag Champa...

Salaam,
Mu

Bhakti...well thanks for reminding me...my Pluto is natally 5 Leo....and Saturn is retro and conjuncting it. hahahahah

JM,

So, let me get this straight - the ONE instance where it was proven that an arms for hostages deal went down, is evidence enough to impune the entire history of the US Presidency and gov't? I mean, what is it with y'all? I understand being skeptical and all that, but it reminds me of what John McWhorter said about Black folks nowadays being oppositional just to be oppositional...I mean, you gotta have something substantial, to have a leg to stand on, before you go off half cocked. This is why you can't attract votes from Middle America, because you come off as American-hating ultra-leftists.

Holla back...

Salaam,
Mu

Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, such bad manners. Big deal what you do.
No debates/arguments from me. Not talking to you. Rather chant, more interesting than hot air and negative energy.

Happy Shivatratri Ya'll, the Goddess Is Here NOW!
Get excited and Ride the Wave!!!!

JudiG,

Hi Again...OK, let's sort this out...

You say you understand "criminal"; what has Bush or his father, Bush 41, done that was criminal? Please explain? What Nixon did was criminal. What LBJ, regarding Vietnam, you could make an argument for being criminal. But you meant to tell me that all those purple fingers in Iraq was the result of criminal actions?

Huh???

Hey, I made serious loot when Clinton was Prez too, but I'm eating now and got a roof over my head and obviously have the leisure time to go back and forth with you and others online...so relax and chill, have a Coke and a smile.

And try to learn some Astrology beyond that of a beginner so you'll have something to back up your arguments.

Salaam,
Mu-

Mu....when did I say, when did I say, anything about the military in terms of what you just asked me?

Listen to me Mu, my great grandfather was a lawyer, and he freed slaves. His case in Oregon was (one of) the basis for Oregon entering the union as a non slave state. I am descended from 150 years of Quakers (you might find me a bit anti military there in that philosophy), from the time that the good corporation head John Endicott of the Mass. Bay colony hanged my 13th great grandmother, who was one of the early Quakers in the 1600's. ) My ancestors (I don't want to say my last name, but it is the name born by a great many of the famous black regiment in the Civil War)....they were abolitionists and ran underground railroads in Ohio. Some of my best friends are African American. I've also been present when I saw young people (women) beaten by police in Los Angels. I am born with Saturn conj. my sun in Gemini. I am by nature, anti military, anti war, anti authority, and anti religion. If you don't like it, at least respect it. And there are two sides to everything....witness all the Japanese Americans who died in WWII fighting in Europe against the Fascist allies. War was still hell, and I was born in the war, in Honolulu, and my dad worked at Pearl Harbor. I grew up in a war culture. Every war is different and every war culture is different. But at the bottom of all of war, is the necessity to make money, make profit, and the military is being used today to support that goal. But you are mistaken...I am not dissing the soldiers, I am dissing the people who put them where they give their lives for someone else's profit.

And I would dare to say that everyone on this board could tell a similar story, my apologies to the rest of you for all of this....but I would bet that all of you would say the same thing.

Hi Bhakti,

It's to be expected from folks like yourself who spout off that pie in the sky rhetoric that's 3 miles wide and less than a quarter of an inch deep. Perhaps perpetual meditation is just what the doctor ordered, while the rest of us deals in the real world.

Salaam,
Mu

PS: I wonder why is that NONE of my Indian clients - folks who were born and raised on the subcontinent - have never come to me wanting to know "the meaning of life" - they instead wanted to know, I don't know, little insignificant things like, when their daughter was going to get married, or when their immigration papers were going to come thru, or whether they would win a litigation case. Y'all new jacks to Vedanta need to seriously get with the program.

Mu, I suggest that you learn some manners, before you tell me what to do and determine that I am a beginner.

Oh my Mu, you've stepped in it now. No one lives well after dissing Bhakti.

Well Mu, I did some work for you on criminal Bushs....where do you suppose all their money came from? I picked a cute little paper called the New Hampshire Gazette, but you can google any thing you want and find more.

http://www.nhgazette.com/cgi-bin/NHGstore.cgi?user_action=detail&catalogno=NN_Bush_Nazi_2

Hi JudiG,

So, you were born in the late 30s? You sound like it, with all due respect. True, Times change, but wars have often been about money, and I don't necessarily see anything wrong with that. OK, let's put it this way - would you rather Zarqawi have the money, oil, etc.? Hmm? Would that suit you? How about Saddam? Hmm? Would that be cool?

And I live in perhaps the Quaker stronghold, PA, so I know them well. I'm down with what they did, deeply appreciate that, even can respect their pacifist stance. Cool. But I don't respect this get-Bush-at-any-cost deal going down right now. It looks insincere, it feels phony, and most of all, it sounds like seriously sour grapes (going back to 2000).

I thought we all would have learned the Lesson with the recent Rx transit Mars in Taurus...War is necessary, because it's part of the Human Condition to be Evil, to be Selfish, to be Greedy, to be Ideologues. I know Astrology is full of folks like you who want folks like Zarqawi to make nice with Oprah, but the real deal is, while you're here excoriating Bush and Co. folks like Zarqawi will just as soon lop your head off as to look at you - and me too - and I'm a Muslim! I say take them out.

Before they take us out.

ANd by the way, Zarqawi's family has disowned him, on BBC radio, right after the bombings in Amman, Jordan. I heard the whole thing.

Back to you...

Hi JudiG,

Just saw the article you made reference to. OK, let's do it this way: let's assume that the article is 100% accurate. OK? OK. Now - didn't JFK's dad do some dirty stuff too, that ended up making LOTS of money? Didn't he have dealings with the Chi-Town mob - which played a role in his boy JFK getting elected Prez? I mean, let's do this accross the board, not be selective with it.

AND even if it were so - so what? Again, do you mean to tell me that all those purple fingers - some 11 million of them back in Dec 2005 - doesn't count? Please explain?

Lastly - I'm not being mean when I say that you should learn more Astrology before jumping in...afterall, Mundane Astrology is considered by most pros to be a specialized area of study, and one needs to be up on their historical, cultural and astrological facts before they open their mouths.

And one other thing - Krauthammer may be wrong, fair enough. But what about what I said, regarding the UAE vs. Iran?

Oh, I forgot, you can't answer that, you don't know enough...so your opinions, which have little if any basis in astrological fact will just have to do...

Salaam,
Mu

No....I don't have the desire to get into it with you. We will see if purple fingers become very scarce in this country soon, also. And you really are just totally rude and insufferable.

OK, I'll bite in an attempt to educate.

Mu says "OK, let's take Afghanistan, where Heroin is King."

Actually, heroin is not king in afghanistan. But opium poppies have been grown there since before the days of Buddah. I have a friend who is of afghani origins and talking to him about the culture and history of that region has been rather enlightening.
These days some farmers, trying to eke out anything that will put food in the mouths of their families, are growing poppies. It doesn't become illict heroin until the middlemen and distributors become involved. And who reaps that cash cow by bringing it to the US and other wealthy consumers? Certainly not the poor afghani farmer. Greed and corruption by people positioned in places of influence are the culprit - so you might better ask, who are they? Connect the dots.

If military might were the solution to conflict, the palestinian issue should have been solved by now. Instead, despite almost 60 years of continued Israeli superior military strength, chaos still rules. And despite the US military no-contest superiority, there are more global wars today affecting more and more people. Think and Connect the dots - there's profit to be made in war weaponry and support systems.

Your "I say take them out Before they take us out." does not sound very enlightened or spiritual to me. Methinks thou dost protest too much.

End of bite.

No Mu, I was not born in the late 1930's. You obviously don't have a clue as to astrology, do you? Or are too lazy to look it up, or don't know history. As for you, you were obviously raised by wolves.....didn't yo mama teach you basic manners? BTW...seems to be a hallmark of conservatives to be rude to people.

No Mu, I was not born in the late 1930's. You obviously don't have a clue as to astrology, do you? Or are too lazy to look it up, or don't know history. As for you, you were obviously raised by wolves.....didn't yo mama teach you basic manners? BTW...seems to be a hallmark of conservatives to be rude to people.

And methinks its just a plain ol' everyday variety of pink supremacist freeper steeped in ignor-ance. The very rude manners at the get-go was a dead giveaway imo. ;O)

I'd say it needs a good collective shun...

kiwijeanie....thanks kid....everyone on this board has a different area they are good in, or have expertise in, or are exposed to, which is what makes this such an interesting blog. Everyone adds what they know.....it is the ancient yogic vision of life....the holographic vision which we all create, each from our own viewpoint. It is all good. It is all real. But we don't also have to apologise for our own vision.

But one thing is true, where ever we be.....greed and corruption follow the money.

Just imagine if we had dropped butter and grain in Afhanistan.....and building materials. But the intent was never to help the people, it was simply to plant our strawman there.....and it certainly wasn't to get Zar & OBL....

Joanna....shun works for me. One of the few things which, besides the furniture and boxes, has survived the Shaker community. Go with what works!

Hi Kiwi,

I don't bite. But I will engage your comments...

OK, call it poppy, call it heroin, it's semantics...we all know what we're talking about. And you never answered straight away the question - no, I don't want connect any dots. The question is very simple - are you saying that the US gov't is backing those who are making poppy cultivation possible, against its own military? Is that what you and others are saying? And if so, what evidence - not dot connecting, but hard, solid, evidence - do you or anyone else has to back this up?

I've had the good fortune of coming into contact with Muslims from around the world, and that includes Afghanistan. I agree with you, the history of the place is very interesting indeed.

But I must disagree with you regarding War and its history...actually, there are fewer wars today than they were say, 500 years ago. Have we forgotten the 100 years War in Europe? Or all of the Crusades campaigns? War just isn't what it used to be, although it's still very much around.

The Palestinian deal has been going for a very long time, I agree...but it's more a political issue than an out and out conflict.

Listen, I can respect your yogic vision, but such things don't help with people who cannot be reasoned with...would the yogic vision have stopped Hitler from destroying the Jews and decimating Europe? Would long bouts of meditation convinced the Confederates to give up Slavery? WIll it stop the Janjaweed? The Lord's Resistance Army? Kim Jong Il?

Astrology, properly understood, recognizes that Life emcompasses both the good and the bad in Life...Mars represents both these things. Mars is War, in Peace Mars is the tools of industry.

Sooner or later Saddam, and by extension the wider ME, had to be dealt with...I don't see this thing as a simple matter of law enforcement (Sep 11), I see this as a major, major problem on the world scale that must be confronted.

And if there are those of you who don't wish to do that, I can dig it - just keep clear of those of us who do.

Salaam,
Mu

Strawman alert! Strawman alert! I'm saying it again: Strawman alert! Nothing is being stated that could possibly lead to any kind of discussion. Anything is (and will be) stated to provoke dissension and bad vibes. That's the objective. Don't fall for it. Let this go bey-bye--er, bye-bye-- along with the ol' horse patootie. Prolly best friends, anyway.

And, judi... I think the Shakers make some of the most beautiful furniture in the world... simple, useful & elegant like themselves... & the Quakers. You go, Lady... Aloha

Hi Again Kiwi,

Just wanted to add this: there's a series of books on Firearms and such...I can't remember the names of the authors, but both of them were old British warhorses. One of them is dead now, and the other is very old, but they co-wrote a number of books chronicling the history of weaponry and firearms down through the Ages. I bring this up in direct counterpoint to you and others, who attempt to make this "Why We Fight" argument, that there are mean old men rubbing their hands in anticipation of making bundles of money by stirring trouble up. Those guys who wrote those books - and keep in mind, they were career soldiers now retired, not taking money from anyone - clearly shot that notion down. They stated that there have been more firearms and weapons manufacturers who gone out of business than have ever profited from the enterprise. If I find the names of the authors I'll be back to let you know. But for now, I just wanted to put that in, because I know there are lots of folks in our astrological ranks who are pacifists, or quasi-pacifists.

Salaam,
Mu

FOCUS | Washington Told to Justify Port Deal in Court
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/022506X.shtml
The Bush administration was ordered by a US federal judge on Friday to explain why it did not give New Jersey officials documents and information Washington had about a deal allowing an Arab company to take over management of a container terminal in Newark.

JudiG,

I'm rude - but I take all kinds of potshots from folks here on this blog, right? C'mon. Now, I'm a big boy and I know the deal, and can take it it, but I refuse to accept this notion of being "unevolved", etc. Like the old saying goes, y'all love to dish it out, but you can't take it.

When pushed, I punch.

It's not enough to simply get in an echo chamber and spout off stuff in what amounts to the astrological equivalent of an intellectual ghetto; you have to test what you know to be true against the info of others. That's called Debate. This is why I read EVERYTHING I get my hands on, Left, Right and Center. And I make it my business to listen and read those I don't agree with moreso than those I do.

So, go right ahead - try to ignore me, as Joanna said. It says a great deal about the depth of the folks here, who claim highmindedness and "evolution" when in reality they only display cowardice and intellectual dishonesty.

My writings and track record are very public and am able back up what I present.

So get used to being challenged early and often, because I've studied long and hard my craft, and I'm a serious thinker who has the guts to call a spade a spade.

Salaam,
Mu

You still have no idea when I was born, do you, even tho I left a clue/

Purple fingers make a civil war now....

who cares what you do? All that counts is how you treat people. You are a poseur. An invader. A self justifying ......?

Joanna....playing the Saddam card is a sure sign...aloha nui loa, Joanna

JudyG,Joanna & Shy ;)!!
Now, back to the title subject: the corporate world.
Does anyone have an exact formation date for the Carlyle Group? All I can find is 1987 - the group was named for the NY hotel where the formation meeting(s)were held.

Isn't it interesting that the harmonic convergence was in august of that same year. So I wonder what the astro signature of Carlyle is?

Perhaps in that group's formation we might have the seeds of the new global cooperation era - but like anything else, we have yet to get past the shadow energy.

Also came across this in respect to the Mayan calendar, which I thought interesting:
"The Harmonic Convergence also began the final 26 year countdown: from 1987 to 2013, the beginning of the Yellow Galactic Seed year and a new 5,200 year cycle."

Eric Francis | Psychic Weather Advisory

BEFORE I resume with my analysis of the entire world in Mon's edition, if nobody minds, I'll slip in a little mundane astrology--a weather advisory re. the Pisces New Moon & also Mercury stationing retrograde in Pisces. That's a lot of Pisces, particularly given that Jupiter in Scorpio is trine both events, & there has been a lot of Neptune in the air the past couple of weeks.

Here is the chart. This occurs in Europe & the UK very early Tue morning & in the USA, Mon evening. In Australia, it's a bit later in the day Tue.

http://cainer.com/ericfrancis/gifs/uraniannewmoon.jpg

There are a number of factors to this setup, & basically what you have is a situation where everything in Pisces is making contact with an outer planet. Indeed, the 3 most personal of the planets, Moon, Mercury & Sun, are all in close aspects to outer planets, to wit: the Moon/Sun conjunct Uranus; & Mercury simultaneously making a sq to Pluto/Galactic Core.

Taken apart or together, these are both a setup for a turning point. But it will have its turbulent qualities (Uranus so prominent, awa a Mercury sta) awa its harsh or extremely decisive moments (the Mercury to Pluto sq). Mercury/Pluto is so precise as to be surgical.

However, with Uranus/GC involved, there is the influx of higher vibration energy that in contrast most of our concerns/ideologies pretty much wipe clean the kinds of considerations we have in our usual day-to-day affairs. There is a real feeling of getting rid of the chaff & keeping the grain; if burning off karma. The transitions do seem to be moving quickly, & they do seem meaningful.

There seems to be a distinct shift in levels indicated in this New Moon chart, & what works or seems to function anyway at the lower vibrations does not usually work so well at the higher ones. So, on the Earth level there are turning points, but if you think in terms of a vertical or multidimensional axis, there is a process of leaving behind the conflict & shifting to a space where the contradictions lose their meaning.

In terms of the Mercury/Pluto/GC sq, which holds solid from now clear thru the week because Mercury stations midweek & is thus stationary, there is an inner dichotomy of soul v emotions indicated; & getting clear on the emotional level while keeping your intentions focused on your deepest inner sense of direction. There is not really a conflict between these levels, but the square says we may experience it as one.

And the station of Mercury says that there are decisions involved; that retrieving or resolving something from the past may be involved; that coming to closure on something--which story continues thru the next time Mercury comes back & squares Pluto in Apr--is a big piece of the puzzle. The GC has a famously nonjudgmental quality. You could not say the same thing about Pluto, which seems to push everything to judgment; but the contrast in power between the two points is a little like a match next to the Sun. So it's Pluto itself that is coming in for a reckoning, & Mercury is in an interesting position.

I would say this has something to do with making up one's mind, & aligning one's mind with soul & nothing else. Surely, this is all prep for events to come, & there are many. http://planetwaves.net/

So JudyG, am I correct in assuming from your aloha nui loa that you live in Hawaii? I miss it so much.

Kiwi, I remember that you lived in Hawaii and moved back to NZ, right? My family goes back to 1880 there....all firmly planted in the Nuuano cemetery now.

Nope....I am in the land of the ultra left, SF.....the BAY AREA rules.

Aaii, kiwi... I got to live there '74/'75. I still have dreams about it... all watery of course.

But I was born there....as was my grandmother....Canadians, all, they went thru the illegal American take over of the Hawaiian Monarchy. My grandmother took ukelel lessons from the deposed Queen Liliokelani...which she had to do to support herself, being locked up for years under guard by the American forces in her home.

YES...I do support the truth of it all.

I used to sit often in the cemetery up on Kamahamaha heights meditating or writing... little tile pictures of the interred were set in the grave markers. A lush sweet-smelling garden it was with benches... full of plumaria trees & hummingbirds. ;O)

ANd Kiwi, Jo....I do miss it also. Astrologically, it is where I would have done my best art work. Maybe not been able to support myself, but it would have been art heaven!

Oh Joanna.,...more! I was only 11 when I left, the greatest upset of my young life. I still have kanaka feet, though....callosed to the max from never wearing shoes. Last I lived in Kailua (Oahu)....and I remember the Pali tunnels being built.

Some day soon, we'll all go back... probably for a visit but mebbe to live our last years... mebbe...

Wow, what a legacy! OK, group hug xxxx. Such memories! me ke aloha pumehana

Jo...would that come on 12/21/2012?

hmmmmm.....a big party up there on the heights?

(my parents lived in Kahala Heights when I was born)

kiwi...translate? I left too young to learn it all...

Aaiii, judi... shoes an abomination, yes?!? In extreme cases, flip-flops okay. The Pali tunnels did get built as you surely know. The view from the top of the Pali spectacular & mind-boggling. I loved swimming at Bellows Beach (sorry for the desecration of the navy taking over that white moon-crescent beach lined with pines & palm)... it's where I learned to body serf. What a great time it was when I finally "got it"... & I rode that energy line for the longest time.

with love from the bottom of my heart

Kiwi...Jo....I can smell the plumeria, the pikake and the carnations....not to mention the ginger!

if you girls keep it up I'm going to start crying (happy tears though)

Thanks Kiwi, where did you live ? oh, Jo and body surfing, isn't it divine? well, at least it is 'home'.....CA body surfing is a bit different, depending on where you live....have had some bad washing machine with rocks experiences in LA area!

I remember an Aloha Week, Seestas, when the Maori fellows were performing their traditional dances on an enormous flat-bed truck. Their dances, to say the least, are energetic... full of stomping, thumping & great yells. Well, just at the peak, the flat bed gave way! & landed on the pavement. They didn't miss a beat! Hahahahaaaa!!

JudiG,

Nope, I don't have any idea what year you were born. But I do know that there is no civil war going on in Iraq at present.

As for the Carlyle Group, which is something that is so "Farenheit 911", I'm sure if you and yours dig enough you'll find a date. What you could do is look into a major planetary aspect...this is what I did with the founding of the Anglican Church in UK; I was studying that whole thing in the light of Gene Robinson. Anyway, the actual date of the founding of the Church in England wasn't given, but I did notice that in the year of the founding there was a Jupiter-Neptune Opposition. So I cast a chart for the first time this axis happened, and there you go, it falls into the 3-9 House axis.

Stuff like that you can do when you don't have exact foundation data.

Now you can't say we small "c" conservatives are stingy.

:)

Salaam,
Mu

JudiG,

Nope, I don't have any idea what year you were born. But I do know that there is no civil war going on in Iraq at present.

As for the Carlyle Group, which is something that is so "Farenheit 911", I'm sure if you and yours dig enough you'll find a date. What you could do is look into a major planetary aspect...this is what I did with the founding of the Anglican Church in UK; I was studying that whole thing in the light of Gene Robinson. Anyway, the actual date of the founding of the Church in England wasn't given, but I did notice that in the year of the founding there was a Jupiter-Neptune Opposition. So I cast a chart for the first time this axis happened, and there you go, it falls into the 3-9 House axis.

Stuff like that you can do when you don't have exact foundation data.

Now you can't say we small "c" conservatives are stingy.

:)

Salaam,
Mu

Mostly on the west side of the big island - lived in Puako and Kona. But spent a bit of time in Honolulu too. Sailed from NZ 1970 and lived in the AlaWai for a couple of years. Worked at the old Kaiser Hospital. Was first there in 1963 when the Ilikai and majic island were being built.

Perhaps, Seestas, we'll end up in an airy house together. We'll have lovely gentle quiet Philippino houseguy or two to attend our every need/want because they think we're beautiful. ;O)

judi & kiwi... you've had some wonderful experiences... rich & deep. Thank you for sharing some of them... sure brings back memories. In fact, they're flooding back! So many... the aroma... mostly I remember the aroma of flowers & the sea.

so what date did you use for the founding of the church of england?

J-O, now thats a vision that is most intriguing! Maybe we can all party hearty in 2012? LOL

hahahah...Kiwi, you beat me to it.
there are separate Anglican Churches in England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland.....at which point was the Anglican church formed?

was it the reformed church in 1588....or its early beginnings c. the council of Arles in 314 AD?

Was it when Henry started removing his wives' heads? Now there is something we can all relate to...!

Wonderful article Sally

I'm envisioning bumper stickers:
~CORPORATIONS ARE NOT PEOPLE~
A new civil rights movement.

In view of the bizarre quasi-ruling that corporations are people under the 14th amendment (!) why not turn the tables?

Here is an interesting article, especially the end where the revoking corporate personhood is discussed. http://www.iiipublishing.com/afd/santaclara.html

Well...there will certainly be a crowd wanting to experience zero point while smelling the plumeria!

Come to think of it, why not look at this date seriously? That would be a good thread...

I am going to mention also a book review from Astro.com which I read tonight....check it out:
http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_culture_e.htm

I found it fascinating that the author disputes Ptolemy's work, and as well, says:
Thomas Dietrich claims that the origin of culture is Atlantis, the lost island, minutely collecting information from ancient sources and mythology. According to his research Morocco is one of Atlantis' first colonies, from where Atlantic culture spread first to Ireland, and from there to Lybia and Egypt.
And although the reviewer finds the book interesting, the findings also are not supported by the reviewer in one big way:
Although Dietrich uses astrology to understand developments on the planet over long periods of time, and deals with different astrological ages, he denies the validity of personal astrology. In his view, "the real astrology, the real fundamentals of the science, which are cosmological and sacred, steming from long research and divine inspiration", can only be used to learn about the "fate" of the Earth, but not about individual human beings, except a few "great personalities" like Napoleon, Alexander or Hitler, who "have slipt into the stream of fate". Here, personal fate has co-joinded with the fate of the nation they govern. They enact the fate of the world, whereas all other people are merely observers.

Coulda fooled me...an interesting take...!

Not long ago Sally read in a chart, (I think she was reading in a chart) that the truth of 9 -11 would soon be known.

I'm listening to Sunday nite repeat of Tim Russsert with Senator Warner as guest. And a couple of things came out, went bingo, as they talked of the UAE port dustup.

No. 1, Senator Warner, chairman of several committees connected to the US Armed forces, just made a gigantic slip of likely classified information.

In talking of Iraq, he said the brave US soldiers, "25 TO 30,000 OF THEM WHO HAVE BEEN INJURED" - previously we had been told 16,000 had been injured.......

Next - did we all know that China is running some of our ports?

And finally, Russert helped to fill in the pieces of my "quid pro quo" question...and what the quid is.

Russert was asking Warner how he could support the UAE taking over US ports when:

1) the 9-11 commission reports that the funding for 9 11 pilots came through the UAE,

2)that some of the 9-11 pilots came from the UAE,

3)that the planning of 9-11 took place in the UAE

4)that the FBI reported in 9 11 report they believed the UAE had tipped off bin laden to get out of the hunting camp when we were about to annihilate him,

and that's when it went bingo -light bulb for me.

I've been looking at the wrong end of the quid pro quo. How about the Manuchurian Candidate and
his group said "help us get the American people to agree to war, and here's how it should be done, and we'll let you invest in the inner circle and pappy's global octopus, and we promise we'll sweeen the deal by giving you the spoils of war..the most valuable piece of America, entree to billions through all the ports of America "

Pretty good explanation of why the manchurian candidate would be risking it all for the UAE.

Hmmm. I think I'm just now warm - I'm likel right on.

Who has the chart of the UAE with the chart of 9-11?

Expect to see trines to Venus and the money houses.

I think the truth of 9 11 has just been revealed on Russert, even though he didn't know that he was.

Kiwi, I left in 1955, you were there a decade later, and Joanna the decade after that....how interesting! ANd you saw all of that stuff going on!

Again, I was way too young to have grown up adult memories of the place...but I have been to Kona as an adult, and the whole area south of there reminds me of Maui when I was a really little kid....when there were only about 50 people living in Kihei (Maui), and my dad was building the newer Maui Electric plant and the Hawaiians threw their hukilau nets from the beach in Kahalui (Maui). ANd my parents spent every weekend on Oahu at the Kaneohe yacht club, the old one, not the one that is there now....all of us kids swimming off the pier. My dad loved to sail...it was near Coconut Island. I do remember the smell of the ocean, Joanna....!

Re your last comment judi,

Something about this article made me think of the Iperial Cult (roman, civil religion) which began ~jan 42 BC with the deification of Julius Caesar (more capricorn?). They were certainly a group of commerce and power who demanded loyalty through tithing. The cult was encorporated into the "new" cult/religion christianity during the reign of Constantine 4th century AD. Maybe the answers lie under St Peter's??? The early Romans who invaded Europe - The Imperial Cult.

Tseka, it has been so long! Haven't read the link you posted, but in the Corporation, there is mention of the right of the STATE of CA (and others I presume, but it was already tried in CA)) to revoke their personhood....if they are guilty of being bad citizens.

think on this:
What a world it would be if we could get rid of the Rascals and Overlords in the global coRpOration,
and have instead Oversight and Ethics to achieve global coOpEration.

Tseka....it does have that ring, doesn't it? The Imperial Romans return....

Pallas...nice dots.! BTW, are you also an artist?

judi
i guess you realize i meant the comment about religion upthread.

fast moving here i am loving the island lays

Pallas....what you said about 'the truth about 9/11 will be known) struck a chord. I was listening to a lecturer (Joseph Ernest Martin, who has a terrific Tarot deck out called Quest Tarot http://69.36.166.22/site_fldr/home.html
and he said re; predictions

" A bearded young man c. 2030 will make a documentary revealing what happened for real on 9/11 and it will be shocking"

25 years from now, but * sealed the info for 50 years, so obviously something else will happen to change that )

speaking of "sealed" I am so curious why Jackie K-O has her writing sealed. Until when?

Tseka, yes moving fast tonight...Mars transiting on my natal Uranus among other things for me, but I've noticed the moon phaze seems to activate us....missed you! And did misinterpret your post...

Kiwi....what an interesting thing you did with that word....Corporation....In latin of course, we have corp to mean body....

Pallas, I am again stunned by your dots. I wonder how many others will pick it up? Like national news folk?

here's wikipedia's article on corporation. Scroll down to etymology. Interesting. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporation

Kiwi...I didn't know that.....was it in her will? It sounds as if she wanted to spare her children further controversy? Or did she know too much? I wonder if she wrote about the real stuff going on around the assassination?

Mu mentioned the Kennedy illegalities (Kennedy a piker compared the the bush octopi)....which is true, Joe Sr. was a Hitler fan. So were many of the prominent European aristocracy. The Windsors of course, ARE German. But.....G. bush is no Jack Kennedy......

By the way, Krauthammer's article is nothing but
an exponential discourse of the talking points passed out to their trustworthy and often paid
disinformation groupies in the media.

Junior is playing the race card, when in fact, it's the security card, the one he has ignored for the past 4 years.

And so, the sycophants have their talking points- even their astrologers - make this an Arab hating, race baiting "you should be ashamed of yourself deal - turn the tables on them" -when in fact it is the supporters of the UAE taking over
the American ports who should be ashamed.

Since when does America sell vital security assetts to foreign governments? Never that I know of, until the manchurian candidate took office and privatizing and opening all borders began, again, in earnest.

On the topic of the heading article:
Since the theocratic republicans are determined to overthrow and mostly have piece by piece
overthrown Roe V Wade - there is absolutely no reason that Americans should not group together to challenge and overthrow the 1886 ruling making corporations "a person" . It would be the best way to get them out of ruling and influencing American government .

And finally, yes, the destruction of the churches/religion has begun. Whatever sign Pluto enters, Pluto gives power, as we have seen it gave power to the religionists and to law...but toward the end of its transit of the sign, the destruction begins...and we are seeing it...the destruction of the laws- "no man is above the law" (ha!) and the destruction of the religions - starting symbolically with the physical churches -
(we have seen the crumbling of the Catholic church going on for quite awhile)

Interestingly, it is not just black churches being burnt in the South - and the thought has come to mind, the perpetrators are people who are sick and tired of religion being stuffed down their throats.

By the way

Ja KiwiJeannie re cooperation good line.
Judi...i guess your reference is to the film? i've not seen it.
Always rights not specifically defined in the constitution are reserved to the states and to the people. We just have not been adamant enough. Of course it helps to have a pocket full of money. Never-the-less the civil rights movement and women's rights made headway. Can you believe that under the 14th amendment it was assumed that corporations are people and this was never tested yet women were not PEOPLE?

A platform for progressive libertarianism?

another thought - boy, must be the new moon coming up - trine my uranus ruling planet.
On the suject of minimizing corporate tax with the 'double taxation' to stockolders argument.
Well, if a corporation is a person, how can that be that different from taxes being applied every time any money transfers from person to another person in the form of earnings?

Ja KiwiJeannie
Forbes was very ineffectual in arguing that line in his run from prez a few years ago. Just silly

How about the new twist - the Big Oil Corps who tell the US congress that they are now Global corporations therefore suggesting that they are not under our laws at all?

Well no more croporate welfare for you and those contracts wellllll......

WhaddaHOOT! Krauthammer. Anyone that worships at its desk has the taste of ding-dongs. Just another old nasty cowardous murderous wargeezer-coot... they're all the same... no matter what century, what week, what religion, what party, what bank, what hootch, what shotgun, what gannon, what country, what "ism"... they're all the same... to cause misery & suffering to as many as possible is their MO.

Tseka....wow...I hadn't thought of it that way, women not people.....or Af Americans are 2/3's of a person as a compromise which even Jefferson bought into.

I hope you can see the film....it isn't so much that we don't know alot of it, it is the fact that the dots are so connected in the film...and it is what makes it so powerful. We see small parts of it every day, every year....but they put it all together.

I do think taking away the personhood of corporations would be interesting. You know, people incorporate so that they aren't personally legally liable for the debts incurred in the corporation....seems to me that is having it both ways....the personhood of the corporation is responsible. But there is not 'there' there as Gertrude Stein once famously sid. Or was that a rose is a rose is a rose?

Joanna...YES! and make a profit at it, too...don't forget that part. I swear, we are in a giant Fautian drama.

Not one of these coots has ever fallen on his sword for his own honor, now have they?

That was supposed to be Faustian...you know, sold his soul to the devil....or Brad Pitt (Meet Joe Black) or something....

* VENEZUELA: The threat of a good example

Stuart Munckton

“In another era, the alliance between an oil-rich joker in Venezuela, an ageing Cuban dictator & a jumper-wearing Bolivian peasant leader would hardly be worthy of ["superpower"] attn, but Latin America’s shift to the Left is presenting the US with one of its biggest political & security headaches.” So claimed a Feb 20 article in the Murdoch-owned Australian by Sarah Baxter entitled “Joker Chavez no laughing matter for [bushadrunkie]”. The article is an attack on the socialist president of Venezuela, Hugo Chavez, & on the strengthening anti-imperialist alliance led by Cuba/Venezuela, which new Bolivian President Evo Morales has pledged to join. ... http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/2006/658/658p15.htm

I shouldn't - but I'm going to, because I find the "voice of the interloper" particularly irritating, and immature - and purposely nasty.

First of all, while challenging posters here, the interloper does not know history at all.

1)The United States Military did not fight a war to free black people. Not for a minute. Nor was it the United States Military involved. Foolish oaf.

2) The astrology is so partisan and so off the mark as to be ridiculous.

3) You demand that people give you facts in astrology. DUH. Wha? Are you serious.

4) America has never done anything criminal? Your leader has never done anything criminal? Whatever history books you've been reading must have pages torn out. Try reading something about the Geneva Conventions. Some light might enter your environment. Try reading the history of the puppet dictators and the weapons America supplied them. Try reading about the Nazis the Dulles brothers brought into this country to form the CIA. Or the Japanese torturers of the Chinese we brought here instead of jailing them. Try reading about who trained the killing squads in South America and covered up the torture and killings. Try reading a little Thomas Hartmann instead of Krauthammer and you might recognize who and what is running this country .. most of all, dont try your propaganda here.

4) "I wonder why it is that NONE of my Indian clients - folks who were born and raised on the subcontinent - have never come to me wanting to know "the meaning of life" - they instead wanted to know, I don't know, little insignificant things like, when their daughter was going to get married, or when their immigration papers were going to come thru, or whether they would win a litigation case. "

Well, sonny, don;t wonder anymore. What you are is what you attract. And you are the mundane, with a small "m". Which is why you attract clients who are only interested in the mundane and not the spiritual.

Odd - many many of my clients, including Sikhs and Indians have come to me for readings with spiritual questions and no interest in the mundande inanities of everyday life. Now why would one suppose that would be? hmmmmm - irritating little boy?

Learn some manners, present your case in a non confrontational unprovoking way and then perhaps other people will want discourse with you - but your "Rush Limbaugh approach - bull in the chinashop" gets and deserves no admiration here.

Ego. Ego. Ego. How wonderful you are.

That's what you appear to want. Praise for your prowess and abilities. You're unlikely to get it here. Bad attitude.

Just 2 hours ago this hit the news (I got it from Raw Story:
Ports Deal to Get Broader Security Review
WASHINGTON - The Bush administration said Sunday it will accept an extraordinary offer by a United Arab Emirates-based company to submit to a second — and broader — U.S. review of potential security risks in its deal to take over significant operations at six leading American ports. The plan averts an impending political showdown.

I can't find the post which said the delay of 45 days would bring about more revealing information, but this is the beginning...

US leader crashed by trying to 'pedal, wave and speak at same time'
MURDO MACLEODPOLITICAL CORRESPONDENT
HE MAY be the most powerful man in the world, but proof has emerged that President George Bush cannot ride a bike, wave and speak at the same time.

We don't have to even TRY to criticize Bush all the time...he does it to himself...the latest furor:
http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=297002006

and just to polish off the dreck from these fools, try this:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1167738,00.html
A Magic Way to Make Billions
EXCLUSIVE HOW LOBBYISTS ARE PULLING OFF A SYNFUEL SCHEME WITH HELP FROM KEY LAWMAKERS--AND YOU'LL PAY

Sisterhood is powerful! Keep goin', my seestas!! Move it on up!!!

The Church of England officially became "The Church of England" because Henry wanted to divorce his wives. Remember Beckett, that's what the fight between he and Henry was about and why Beckett was murdered, he was standing in the way. Being Catholic in England became a dangerous religion to belong to and the Church of England quickly filled the gap.

I will keep looking for the date through some of my English resources. I think it's pretty interesting to pick a date out of thin air but I don't do that with any confidence or sense of responsibility as an astrologer.

Tseka, you presented a very interesting scenario, wonder what Congress would do and I wonder if they know that is the case right now. The Oil Executives kind of sort of gave them that kick when they wouldn't be sworn in and then they simply wouldn't show up for Congressional Hearings.

By the way, if we are the far left, so is the country - because only 18% (in latest polls) think giving the ports over to the UAE is a good idea.

Gee. What a leftist country. But that makes that 18% out of step with the rest of us.

And if I weren't dieting, I would LIKE FRENCH FRIES. :D

Whoops, the wrong Henry, Becket's fight was with Henry II and what the church would and would not accept, and that cost Becket his life. Sorry, It wasn't Henry the 8th.

"...taking away the personhood of corporations..." Hahahahaaaa! They don't HAVE any personhood, eh judi? They are abstract mentations from the weaseled haids of aforesaid old warcoots. These creatures are totally dissociated from the Living World & so, therefore, are a group rightly classified in the DSM-IV as mentally ill... as psychotics. They are brains-in-a-jar floating in outer space with no moorings whatsoever. Whatever they "think" is now & forever true. Not only true, but the WORD OF GOD. Jeeezzzzz... how long are we to put up with this collection of violent prison psych unit denizens.

I'm for under-the-bed to see what Peace shylurker she says she finds there... take my crochet project of infant blanket to soothe my nerves which have had too much bushaIllegal jackbooted thugs stompin' on 'em. Oh... guess that was the freeper which, I believe, is the same "jack" that's bedeviled this site previously & has certainly never written any astrology article nor has an astrology site.

Sally...about the Anglican thing....Neptune Jupiter oppositions (which Mu said was the thing he found) happen what, at least once every dozen years with Jupiter in such a short cycle????? So founding a religion on a Neptune Jupiter opposition is like....really common. You'd think we'd have more of them than we already do.

Hmmmm...gives me an idea for the next one.

I do think that a good astrologer can spot intuitively what to look for. Perhaps we will find that there is somekind of definitive date and that a Neptune Jupiter conjunction or opposition is involved....although in this case, more than likely it was Mars/Jupiter cutting off the heads of Beckett, Ann Bolyne in a kind of Neptune /Venus thingy.

I would make that a ton of Thom Hartmann, Pallas. His book, "We The People: A Call To Take Back America" would be a most excellent place for the "uninitiated" to start. It even has plenty of pictures, for easy comprehension. ;-)

But seriously, if you haven't read this book, you absolutely must do so. It paints the most vivid, crisp picture of exactly what is wrong with this country -- and what we can do about it -- that I have seen yet.

Oh, so Joanna, you HAVE seen the movie!!!! right? you brought up the " are a group rightly classified in the DSM-IV as mentally ill... as psychotics."

"The Church of England officially became "The Church of England" because Henry wanted to divorce his wives"

Yes Sally. I thought of that but there were such numerous errors, there were too many to mention. Those of us who are educated in history knew that...and/or who would look it up before mouthing off would know that. :) and obtain a proper date. Although I forget whether it was Henry's 5th , 6th, or 8th wife he wanted rid of - and would not be allowed to divorce...so he made his own church.

So much for some people's superiority, astrological or otherwise.

Thanks Pallas....you did a yeoman's job of both history lesson and ms. manners....

I wish I had left in what I really had written about Krauthammer...! but I decided not to play down at the bottom of the pig sty.

But paid shills is what they are.....the pressure cooker is reading about 220 deg. right now.

Nope, I haven't judi. However, I've had extensive training in the psych field working with psychotics & 3 degrees to my... er, understanding. These creatures are sick all right... worse than Charles Manson. It would be no surprise to come up with the same views as the movie... they're moored in facts. ;O)

MSNBC replaying Senator Warner on Russert right now for those of you who may have missed it.

gawd - he is shilling for the UAE and manchurian.
Old fool.

Historians are unsure of her day or year of birth, however Anne Boleyn was beheaded on May 19th 1536 sometime in the morning. Venus wasn't involved but there was a Jupiter Neptune conjunction in Aries with a Sextile from both the Sun and Pluto. Mars and Saturn were also conjunct in Leo (that aspect is cruel or can be, just for the sake of cruelity.

Kiwi....old Henry had 8 wives ? Anyway, one of them, Katherine Howard, outlived him. One died in childbirth. I think the others were executed when they didn't produce the male heir. But that is, indeed, why the Church of England is still the official religion of the monorchy (I would guess just so those members of the old Catholic church wouldn't be Tower of Londoned). What I am not sure of is whether there is a difference between Anglican and Church of England and Episcopalian. The church itself was morphing along since the end of the Roman occupation. But this went on for a very long time....the schism between the Catholic/Protestant reformation churches. It is just that Henry said to the Pope....hey, I want a new wife....and the Pope said no and Henry said WATCH THIS....this Neptune JUpiter thing allows me to start my own church....see ya!

JudiG,

makes one wonder if Henry (was it the 8th?) had Uranus in the 7th - but I would also think Pluto/Venus was involved rather than Neptune/Venus....Too bad his wives/victims didn't have astrologers...if they has seen Plut/Venus they would have known to run the other way.

To abolish Corporate Personhood would be to deal a tremendous blow to corporate power run amok. I say let's do it! Let's make all CEOs and corporate officers directly accountable for the actions of their corporations, with massive punitive damages (relative to their salaries) for cooked books, employee abuse and other dishonorable business practices. Extreme cases (like Halliburton) should be immediately nationalized and disincorporated.

Or, to paraphrase Grover Norquist: I don't want to abolish corporations. I simply want to reduce them to the size where I can drag them into the bathroom and drown them in the bathtub.

It's high time we break up conglomerates and monopolies as well. Especially where it pertains to media. Murdoch's News Corp would be a primary target. And lucky him, he made the grave mistake of reincorporating News Corp in Delaware, so he's directly subject to all of our reforms!

But also GE and Disney, which have absolutely no business operating the newsrooms of NBC and ABC.

Henry was Excommunicated by the Pope and named the Supreme Head (later changed) of the Church of England and that became the official Church. Henry couldn't bring himself to move the church in a new direction and it was Catholic by nature, not by name. When Bloody Mary came to the throne, she reinstated the Catholic Church as the official Church. Then it was Elizabeth's turn and she had a number of arguments with the Pope and she was Excommunicated on Feb. 25, 1570 and became Supreme Head. She tried to placate the Puritan and Catholic forces and was basically unable to do so and in essence the Church of England never looked back or was ever displaced. It simply continued to evolve.

Speaking of religious eras...Mary Tudor, Henry's daughter who was married to the King of Spain, was also known as Bloody Mary. So would this era (she died in 1558, when Elizabeth I assumed to throne, having assumed the throne when her brother Edward died; she didn't reign long, but it was VERY bloody)) in which the Catholics wreaked havoc on the reformation movement, also have been under a heavy neptunian/jupiter/plutonian time (I haven't looked up the planetary placements)? Elizabeth put a stop to all of it....there was no retribution under her reign. But when she died, James the 1st imprisoned his cousin Arabella Stuart (who was Mary Queen of Scots niece) because she was Catholic, and had been working hard to get the Catholics back into power (AND she had as much right to the throne as he did). This really was about politics/religion. AND as Sally said, this was the time of the rise (1599, near the last of Elizabeth's long reign) of the corporations. Over 400 years now, and the formula still seems to be working.

Neobuckeye,

GE is a big part of the industrial/military complex. Weaponry.

I can understand Disney because they're entertainment.

But you can thank Colin Powell's son for the abolishment of freedom of the press and real news.
And catering to the corporations allowing them to gobble up all avenues of news, monopolies, which had previously been illegal.

Sally we keep posting on the same subject at the same time!

I was amused by the comment above regarding the "nature of man." What I got out of that was basically "man" is a beast and the beast must be constantly fed through violence and war. Absolutely no concept of raising or elevating "man's" response or using technology to find out what exactly is the gene that constitutes "the beast" No concept of even thinking of finding a different solution. Just this is the way it is, the way it always has been and the way it should always be. Nothing progressive there.

Pallas...I think you could really be right about Henry VIII....a Pluto Venus thing, maybe with Uranus in the 7th house..... If it had been Venus Neptune he would have just divorced them (do you remember the Steve Martin bit about making divorce easier? "You just turn them around 3 times and say, I divorce you, I divorce you, I divorce you and spit on their shoes"), not beheaded them....

Joanna, if you do see the movie, you will be amazed at what you said about the psychotics.

Henry VIII was born June 28, 1491. He had a mutable T-square with Mars/Jupiter/Neptune. Pluto was inconj his Venus. Moon squared his Sun, Mercury and Saturn opposed. He has splayed chart.

Pallas...funny...I have Pluto conjunct Venus....conjunct the midheaven. In Leo. with Jupiter conjunct from the 9th house in Cancer.

hmmmmm....

Sally...that inconjunct from Pluto to Venus...a real source of irritation, no? Problem in integrating the energies, frustration. over and over again! I wonder if it was a yod.

Judi, a "conjunct" and an "inconjunct" are two different energies entirely. The conjunction acts, the inconjunct is unsure and insecure, so insecure the person could be a rapist (not everyone with the Pluto/Venus inconj. is a rapist) but he would have been sexually insecure, and alternating between lust and shame.

Where else could you get a discussion of politics and leaders ranging from 1491 to present day?

Judi G,

the definition of inconjuncts/quincunxes is
"forced adjustments", in the case of Henry with the objects of his affections, cutting off their heads....hmmm ...Aries has to be involved in there somewhere too (heads) so maybe Pluto or Venus was in his first house, and the other in his 8th...or vice versa.

We'll never know.

Read all about dear old king henry & his 6 wives.
Sally, it was Cardinal Wolsey and later, Thomas Moore that ran into strife with horny henry.
According to this wikipedia article the marriage to Anne Boelyn was jan 25 1533. It goes on to state "parliament passed several acts that sealed the breach with Rome in the Spring of 1534."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_VIII_of_England

I was brought up anglican, which is a synonym for the church of england; also known as episcopalian in the US. The monarch is the titular/figurative head, with the archbishop of canturbury being the religious head - sort of a built-in separation of church and state if you will.

Sally...there is some kind of dogged insistance in Henry VIII (a Cancer, of course) which reminds me of our present emperor, also a Cancer. Perhaps it goes with the territory of absolute power, the ' It is my way or the highway' attitude.....I just saw it....the Red Queen syndrome! An extremist, that is for sure. And famous for what, executing his wives and implementing the necessity for a new religious institution....what do you think this current emperor will be remembered for? Executing prisoners and implementing the need for a whole new way of government?

Oh...I wsn't confusing the conjuncts and inconjuncts...just that those two posts sounded like they were together....Pallas had mentioned that Henry might have the Venus/Pluto conjunction, and that his wives if they had an astrologer to guide them would have run the other way had they known. I remembered that I had the conjunction....kind of made me wonder about myself!

But the inconjunct, that is another set of problems, as you both write....I ws taught that inconjuncts were an aspect of irritation, but it all works for me, and both Sally and Pallas fleshed it out so well.

Henry VIII's Act of Supremacy 1534
here's the original text
http://www.britainexpress.com/History/tudor/supremacy-henry-text.htm

Judi G

you are right, inconjuncts are a "source of irritation". That's the 30 degree inconjunct.

For some unknown reason, probably because quincunx is such a difficult word to pronounce,
both the 150 degree quincunx and the 30 degree inconjunct (somewhere in the past 20/25 years I think ) both began to be called inconjuncts.

But it is the 30 degree that is really the inconjunct and the proper name for the 150 degree
is quincunx (forced adjustment) while inconjunct
of 30 degrees surely is irritating :)

Mars in gemini, is it?
A person could get a supreme education just reading this one thread.

From Buz Myers... an interesting perspective:

"Inconjuncts(quincunx, too), are major aspects and I don't know how you can work without them in the chart. I think they are very important as they tend to be Uranian in nature. Just as the square was strongly connected to the Piscean Age and we spent 2500 years learning how to handle the square(did we?), the inconjunct is associated with the Aquarian Age and we are going to start spending the next 2500 years learning how to handle the inconjunct."

"Inconjuncts have a tendency to deal with inner guilt. They deal with health, sevice, indebtedness, and with sexual problems. They are basically an aspect of realignment or readjudstment. If you have a planet involved in an inconjunct, it means that you're going through a phase of evolution where you are choosing to readjust the way you use that energy."

And they are related to 6th and 8th house dilemmas which tell you something about how to work them out. The heavier planet in the quincunx is the teacher, and the lighter, faster planet is the one that is learning.
So if you put the heavier one on the ASC of a wheel and the lighter one goes to the 6th house...say Leo to Capricorn...then you have a Virgo type solution. If it goes to the 8th...Leo to Pisces... you have an Scorpio flavored dilemma.

That's the explanation of the 150 degree quincunx, now called inconjunct.

I just thought of a great example that might interest you all.

The USA has a Moon in Aquarius in the second house quincunx Mercury in the eighth in Cancer. Security(Cancer) and money/control issues(2nd and 8th houses) are in focus. Mercury rules the 7th house of relationships and rules commerce.(some use a 2 degree orb, but I think 3 applies).
The Moon being the fast body is in an 8th house aspect, so we have lessons in dealing with other people's money and resources. Nothing new. Greed, nefarious deals, and too much fear and control around material goods, believing this will bring emotional gratification. The Treasury chart says the same thing with the North node in Scorpio. Learning to share and merge effectively in commercial relationships. Stealing is not a good idea for this nation.

Since the Moon is learning, we have lessons about security, and what that really means. How much material gain will bring this to us and at what cost? The Moon is adjusting its behavior and is in the 2nd house, our relationship to consumption and possession.

This is what I find so fascinating about the UAE deal. It's asking this question, pitting our security concerns against our material in a very clear way. The country feels insecure about this deal and is ready to forgo it, even though a great amount of money would come our way. Or someone's way.

fascinating - thanks so much for the astro lessons jm!

My pleasure, kj.

Here's a real mind blower!
WAVE OF THE FUTURE?

These folks are the descendants of the clipper ship captains!

Chinese Language School Sees Success In Bangor

Students say they're here to prepare for a future that includes China as a major economic force.

Some students want to learn the language so they can teach their children. Others plan to move to China permanently. For more information on the Bangor Chinese School you can call 990-0710.

http://www.wlbz2.com/home/article.asp?id=32076

PQ

Fascinating info you're sharing, folks! I am enjoying it very much. You might want to check out Alex Mignone (sp?) over at Daykeeper. He has an article on Henry et al. that he reposts every once in a great while. I assume the article is archived over there.

Poll: Special investigator for the illegal eavesdropping?
http://www.cnn.com/

Interesting ruminations from E. Francis in "Green Line in the Sand," just posted. Is he onto something?
http://planetwaves.net/

Wow! Quite a "rash" of activity in a brief period of time. Great reading, posting AWers. When i was young i had a hard time with those who insisted upon using the word "fact" to qualify their statements or to challenge mine. Since then i've come to view this with a great sense of humor. Facts are terribly subjective.

It would be interesting investigate and report on past-life recall involving several hundred entities. I'm willing to bet that those who attempt to rewrite history (remember the hoopla over the French; the "freedom fries," etc.) would get their panties in a bunch over something like this.

But, who am i fooling? The results of the research -- if published -- would probably be deep-sixed before it saw the light of day.

Sigh.

Karen

Pallas...you know what, I didn't know the 30 degree was the inconjunct....I thought it was just the other name for Quincunx....awful name, no? I was under the assumption that the 30 deg. was a semi sextile. Oh, thank you for the info. Maybe we could call the 150 the Big Q ?

jm...thanks for the additional info on the inconjunct...or Big Q. My daughter has several in her chart, the most prominent one involving her midheaven/Saturn with sextile Venus and 150 de Mars....her Mars is 9 Sag...when Pluto crossed it exactly is the day she got married. When I was first studying astrology, I couldn't find much on the Quincunx....but her configuration is called the Finger of God, and even less could I find on that. But frustration....that I recognize in her, AND how much energy she puts into overcoming it and making it work for her.

I asked my astro teacher one time what her having Saturn conj. the Midheaven meant...and he said....your daughter has a VERY strong mother!

Isn't it also amazing how a casual conversation on a monarch who died 500 years ago or so could bring up an issue which is germane to our present day energies? The Quincunx being an Aquarian problem.....that is HUGE, jm.

oh boy oh boy oh boy! just got these from email list on Democrats.com

Lewis Lapham in Harpers on the case for impeachment
http://www.democrats.com/node/7996

and the son of Bob Fertik, who has a web site on impeaching Bush/Cheney, Ted Fertik lays out the laundry list of why http://www.democrats.com/node/7995

Lewis Lapham, god of writing!!!!! yeh!

I also am posting something from Sen. Ernest Hollings (he has REALLY upset the GOP applecart with his change in stance on Iraq)....
Freedom of speech becomes measure of politicans' wealth
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/02/26/ING5RHE13D1.DTL&hw=Ernest+Hollings&sn=001&sc=1000

You must read this to appreciate why we think these people are such slacker buffons....and see that one of the things that must get accomplished is yet again political reform re money.

And if you can stand it, one more resource: book review of Lamar Waldron and Thom Hartmann's new Book "Ultimate Sacrifice"...on the Mafia slaying of JFK.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/02/26/RVGQOHAP0U1.DTL&hw=Thom+Hartmann&sn=001&sc=1000

A Yod = Finger of God. Fated. Contains two planets sextiling each other while also Big Qing a third planet. Forms a V. The planet getting a Big Q is on the point of the V.
Trigger points are on the planets and on the midpoint of the sextiling planets which also forms an opposition to the point of the V. Hope this helps.

This Cappy is no Cop. Only remove my sword from it's sheath to defend myself. The sword is more powerful in the sheath :)

Think the conformist clonebots are freaking out and were coming out of the closet yesterday with all the powerful Shakti and the GC hanging out with Shiva. Remember that no matter how blowhard bullies come across they wake up everyday knowing they are losers and have to deal with that low level of esteem. That gives me some compassion for thugs. But I have more compassion for myself to not to get slimed by that energy they cannot transform.

Shut up Mu! You are insufferable! We don't need any O'reilly's here. Go somewhere else where circular logic works to confuse.

My mercury in Virgo feels the need to put my two cents worth in re the wives of Henry VIII:

1.Katherine of Aragon-mother of Mary I; divorced; died natural causes
2.Anne Boleyn-mother of Elizabeth I; beheaded
3.Jane Seymour-mother of Edward; died in child birth
4.Anne of Cleves-divorced or annulled; died of natural causes
5.Katherine Howard-beheaded
6.Katherine Parr-outlived Henry

Thanks Teresa, I knew one of the Katherines outlived him. But that was stil two too many beheadings, no? I wonder what their charts looked like. That would probably be hard to do, unless at least a birthdate was available (I would guess the death dates are)....

Well bhakti, mu definetly slimed you! As he did jm, me, who else? Joanna, too I think, and teed off on Kiwijeannie. I think diversionary tactics like aloha memories can do a lot of good! SHUN!

I'll bet most of you miss Bill Moyers on PBS as much as i do. This latest from Bill is in perfect trine to Sally's article.

http://www.alternet.org/story/32750/

Posted by judi: "Freedom of speech becomes measure of politicans' wealth"

And this kind of incredible nonsense is 'sposed to qualify as "free speech" via the USSC... "free speech" my ass. And, sounds like OLD senator hollings is exhausted by it all & is glad to "confess"... bet a critical mass of other ones feel just like 'im.

JudiG, Bhakti explained the Yod (Finger of God) a few posts above. To add to that, a hint at how to "do" one's yod is to find the midpoint of the sextile, round up to the next degree and read the Symbol for that degree.

I discovered this very interesting site while looking for info on the Septile... it has info on other minor awa major aspects as well. Have fun!! http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:iuZ0poUBg_8J:www.astrologyweekly.com/astrological-aspects/septile-7th-harmonic.php+septile+astrology&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1

Graduates Versus Oligarchs
By PAUL KRUGMAN
Ben Bernanke's maiden Congressional testimony as chairman of the Federal Reserve was, everyone agrees, superb. He didn't put a foot wrong on monetary or fiscal policy.

But Mr. Bernanke did stumble at one point. Responding to a question from Representative Barney Frank about income inequality, he declared that "the most important factor" in rising inequality "is the rising skill premium, the increased return to education."

That's a fundamental misreading of what's happening to American society. What we're seeing isn't the rise of a fairly broad class of knowledge workers. Instead, we're seeing the rise of a narrow oligarchy: income and wealth are becoming increasingly concentrated in the hands of a small, privileged elite.

I think of Mr. Bernanke's position, which one hears all the time, as the 80-20 fallacy. It's the notion that the winners in our increasingly unequal society are a fairly large group — that the 20 percent or so of American workers who have the skills to take advantage of new technology and globalization are pulling away from the 80 percent who don't have these skills.

The truth is quite different. Highly educated workers have done better than those with less education, but a college degree has hardly been a ticket to big income gains. The 2006 Economic Report of the President tells us that the real earnings of college graduates actually fell more than 5 percent between 2000 and 2004. Over the longer stretch from 1975 to 2004 the average earnings of college graduates rose, but by less than 1 percent per year.

So who are the winners from rising inequality? It's not the top 20 percent, or even the top 10 percent. The big gains have gone to a much smaller, much richer group than that.

A new research paper by Ian Dew-Becker and Robert Gordon of Northwestern University, "Where Did the Productivity Growth Go?," gives the details. Between 1972 and 2001 the wage and salary income of Americans at the 90th percentile of the income distribution rose only 34 percent, or about 1 percent per year. So being in the top 10 percent of the income distribution, like being a college graduate, wasn't a ticket to big income gains.

But income at the 99th percentile rose 87 percent; income at the 99.9th percentile rose 181 percent; and income at the 99.99th percentile rose 497 percent. No, that's not a misprint.

Just to give you a sense of who we're talking about: the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center estimates that this year the 99th percentile will correspond to an income of $402,306, and the 99.9th percentile to an income of $1,672,726. The center doesn't give a number for the 99.99th percentile, but it's probably well over $6 million a year.

Why would someone as smart and well informed as Mr. Bernanke get the nature of growing inequality wrong? Because the fallacy he fell into tends to dominate polite discussion about income trends, not because it's true, but because it's comforting. The notion that it's all about returns to education suggests that nobody is to blame for rising inequality, that it's just a case of supply and demand at work. And it also suggests that the way to mitigate inequality is to improve our educational system — and better education is a value to which just about every politician in America pays at least lip service.

The idea that we have a rising oligarchy is much more disturbing. It suggests that the growth of inequality may have as much to do with power relations as it does with market forces. Unfortunately, that's the real story.

Should we be worried about the increasingly oligarchic nature of American society? Yes, and not just because a rising economic tide has failed to lift most boats. Both history and modern experience tell us that highly unequal societies also tend to be highly corrupt. There's an arrow of causation that runs from diverging income trends to Jack Abramoff and the K Street project.

And I'm with Alan Greenspan, who — surprisingly, given his libertarian roots — has repeatedly warned that growing inequality poses a threat to "democratic society."

It may take some time before we muster the political will to counter that threat. But the first step toward doing something about inequality is to abandon the 80-20 fallacy. It's time to face up to the fact that rising inequality is driven by the giant income gains of a tiny elite, not the modest gains of college graduates.

How much money does a pundit earn for an appearance on CNN?
How many of them graduated from medical school without learning to use "an" before a noun beginning with a verb? How many elite military have gotten through West Point without learning that the word is "SPECIFIC" not "PACIFIC" ( INTERESTING FREUDIAN SLIP FOR MILITARY PEOPLE.
How many people with a degree in journalism still say "EXpecially" instead of "especially".?
How many people without college degrees do you know who doen't make these errors?
How many young people were denied a college education, by the outbreak of WWII? Who went on to have responsible well paid jobs, where they were hired on their merits instead of a piece of paper?
It has been my observation for the last 15 years that those who flourished economically, were aided in their quest for gains by a lack of moral ethical code!
We'r just playing by their rules again!
PQ

And I just flunked spelling..................it ought to be worth $100,000. per year where do I fill out the job application?
PQ

oes....hey, that is interesting, do you mean the Sabian Symbol? I will do it...(My Sabian Symbol book is falling apart, I have to keep it in a plastic bag!) As a matter of fact, the sextile end of the yod is 8+ Cancer, the Saturn/midheaven is 8+ Taurus and the Big Q is 8+ Sag. So 9 Gemini is the midpoint of the sextile...and the midpoint or close to the midpoint of my Sun/Sat and Uranus in Gemini midpoint..(about 10-11 Gemini)...boy, am I NOT surprised! I look forward to reading that symbol (I am actually on my daughter's computer, and babysitting)

oes

My source says the same thing about the midpoint of the sextile in the yod and the degree.

"Usually the Finger of God is found in the charts of people who are forced to do things. The pointing finger of the yod is the action point, the reaction point is the opposite of the single planet.
The yod is a very favorable aspect. The sextile aspect is the out because the yod creates a lot of opportunities. getting in touch with the reaction point is the key.

I noticed that we have a Uranus/Saturn (Pisces/Leo) quincunx on and off this year by transit. If Uranus is the heavy and Saturn is adjusting, this could mean that battles with authority are well underway. Freedom is big this year as we are witnessing. If Uranus in Pisces indicates collective liberation, then this adds more meaning to our Saturn in Leo which is battling leadership and attempted authoritarian crackdowns. This is repeated in the opposition to Neptune in Aquarius. I have some serious doubts about the power of certain sorry political figures.

Judi

Mucho interesting. Mars is headed for that midpoint and are you speaking? I think so. Delivering information with rapid force. Let us know the symbolism of that point.

As part of these transit configurations, I notice that impeachment talk keeps percolating. What strikes me as significant, is not the actual impeachment, but the discussion that will probably continue as these transits work. People are questioning how much power and authority is advisable. Maybe this unitary executive grab is just the thing that brought this whole problem to the fore. People seem to prefer an egalitarian distribution of power, and the planets are beckoning in that direction, so maybe that will be the result for this go round.

And add to this another Uranus/Saturn big Q. USA Saturn in Libra quincunx transit Uranus in Pisces.
Man, it's all over the place. A message trying to get through?

Poll (Lou Dobbs): Is the 45 day re-evaluation period for the UAE Port deal just a Repug effort to whitewash? [My words, not his.]
Go vote. You'll love it.

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/

Shy,

I'm glad you're listening to Lou Dobbs, who at this point is apoplectic over the sale of the ports to UAE.

It will be replayed again tonite and if anyone can catch it - Catch it. He just told one of manchurian's talking points lackey's that what he was saying was not just misdirection, but lying.

Never thought I'd be crazy about Lou, but he's the only one who has been calling a spade a spade for the last two or more years. And he's getting angrier and angrier. Too bad blitzer doesn't have the guts Lou does.

Meanwhile the whole 45 day reveiw is a lie.

The deal for the UAE is being signed and going through on March 2, merc rx and what good is the reviewig after the signing? This isn't just lying on the part of that lil bastid, it's chicanery - conning - outright deception to allay the objections of the American people.

Meanwhile also on Lou is the American corporation which will have to work with the UAE in our ports.
They are suing to stop the sale.

IMPEACH is a good word.

How can he dare to do these things...and when will
Congress move!!!

Happy new moon all!

just happened upon this link and thought I'd pass it on for any that might be interested.
Just did a quick scan so far, but it looks like it contains a wealth of information (no pun intended) regarding formation dates and mergers etc etc of corporate entities culminating in carlyle.
http://www.frankkryder.com/carlyle.htm

Re: Lou Dobbs

http://www.canofun
has the most recent video clip on his accusaton of lying! Absolutely wonderful. Click on political videos, upper left top.

While there check the article on Pat Roberts

Even better, John Yoo's legal advise has been "quietly" pulled from administration use. You can find it here too. I think that is good news!

New Moon in Pisces
Monday, February 27, 2006
4:31pm PST
9º 16'

Pisces is known as the "oldest" sign in the zodiac, though I prefer to say "most experienced". Souls born under the sign of Pisces have pretty much seen it all before. They come here to let go of self-identification and allow the soul to merge with its source: pure consciousness. This can be a tall order. The Pisceans that can't handle it tend to waste their lives lost in the Neptunian haze of alcohol and drugs. Those who can commit their lives working for the upliftment of all other souls are our everyday Bodhisattvas. I am sure each of you can name of few

http://www.astrowisdom.com/thisnewmoon.htm

I'm not making a joke.

Monday nite, Feb 27.

Polls say Bush approval 34 %

Cheney 18% .

Would somebody please inform the Judiciary Committee it's time to strike while the iron is hot.

Total Information Awareness Lives On Inside the National Security Agency

Democracy Now!

"Every purchase you make with a credit card, every magazine subscription you buy and medical prescription you fill, every Web site you visit and e-mail you send or receive, every academic grade you receive, every bank deposit you make, every trip you book and every event you attend -- all these transactions and communications will go into what the Defense Department describes as 'a virtual, centralized grand database.' Watch or listen here.

http://informationclearinghouse.info/article12090.htm

From Superpower to Tinhorn Dictatorship

By Paul Craig Roberts

America is headed for a soft dictatorship by the end of Bush's second term. Whether any American has civil rights will be decided by the discretionary power of federal officials. The public in general will tolerate the soft dictatorship as its discretionary powers will mainly be felt by those few who challenge it.

http://informationclearinghouse.info/article12096.htm

My, my, what a difference a day makes!!!

Sorry I missed all the Mu-Mu caca, but I defy anyone to say that he's not a right-winger now!

Once again, the IOKIYAR(it's ok if you're a repub) rule applies: when they get all pushy and force their way into an(unwanted) confrontation and lie, smear and obfuscate, that's called "debate", but when the left attempts to answer, it's "the liberal media lying because they hate America".

Mr. Mu, unless you can more than just rightwing talking points, nobody here is going to listen to you. Please, show us how many purple fingers there really were in Iraq--and also, please tell us why you think Iraq is not in the early stages of a civil war?
Also, I see you failed to mention the depleted uranium that was used in munitions by OUR army there--isn't that a clear violation of international treaties if not the Geneva convention(just like our torturing of prisoners of war)?
One more thing here--if Saddam WAS even a threat, it was because we enabled him during Iraq's war with Iran--the same thing we did with Osama.

K, enough troll flame-baiting--Shy, by the time I got to that link you posted, it wasn't working--can you repost? I missed all of you wonderful people and I'm glad to be back.

Well, well, well, speaking of 9/11, lookee here:

http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=112&contentid=3268

wow what a live thread . . .

aloha all you kamainas ... and back at you from Nancy's blog kiwioncekonajeanie!

I've been on Big Isle for a few years now and before that about 12 years on Oahu. Over on Nancy's blog I pointed out that the March 29 solar eclipse has Pluto exact to arc minute conjunct Asc on the big island. Wonder if that's Pele coming to say hello.

Pallas, what an astute observation ... yes I think you may have connected the dots.

One of the main points from "The Corporation" was that even if the CEO's are decent people and concerned about the environment and social issues, etc. they are bound by law to serve only the interests of maximizing the profit of the investors, and that's the whole problem, the real bottom line if you ask me.

You're so right, Garry. That little article has disappeared. I guess the DU moderators determined it was hoakum. It had to do with the timing of earthquakes in major west coast volcanoes. Quite weird.

Aloha, Timothy! We've been through a couple of Logic 101 fallacies recently: Strawman and Ad Hominem. Interesting how rapidly the second followed the first. The air got purty thick, but Judi Gem, kiwijeanie and JoannaO saved the day--in the most gracious of ways, of course.

It Bushco has its way, we will see history repeating itself--5500 years later!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10499209/from/RL.1/

Fascinating archaeological find Shy. I am still wondering why Bush would want to reduce the US to rubble. The only reason I can think of is to make it easier for China to step into the gap. 30 years ago, and I cannot believe I threw it away but I did, I saw a paper that said China would be the next ruling age beginning after the 21st Century and ruling for about 800 years. Great. I've looked for that article on the internet for 15 years to no avail. If anyone has it let me know. Also, when did Corporation come out, was it recent? My Video store (s) either don't have a copy or they are all rented.

This article can be found on the web at
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060313/roy

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Bush in India: Just Not Welcome
by ARUNDHATI ROY

[posted online on February 27, 2006]

On his triumphalist tour of India and Pakistan, where he hopes to wave imperiously at people he considers potential subjects, President Bush has an itinerary that's getting curiouser and curiouser.

For Bush's March 2 pit stop in New Delhi, the Indian government tried very hard to have him address our parliament. A not inconsequential number of MPs threatened to heckle him, so Plan One was hastily shelved. Plan Two was to have Bush address the masses from the ramparts of the magnificent Red Fort, where the Indian prime minister traditionally delivers his Independence Day address. But the Red Fort, surrounded as it is by the predominantly Muslim population of Old Delhi, was considered a security nightmare. So now we're into Plan Three: President George Bush speaks from Purana Qila, the Old Fort.

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060313/roy

Saaaaayyy... what's a few ports when the power suppliers are also "foreign-owned," eh? I wonder who actually owns your mortgage?

* British-Based Utility Is Buying KeySpan - The British utility Natl Grid confirmed yesterday that it had agreed to buy the KeySpan Corp, the NY-based distributor of electricity/natural gas, for $7.3 billion. Natl Grid said that it was paying the $7.3 billion in cash & would assume debt est'd at $4.5 billion. KeySpan shareholders will receive $42/sh in cash, a premium of 16% over the price when KeySpan disclosed that it was in takeover talks 2 wks ago. ... http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/28/business/worldbusiness/28keyspan.html

AmeriCOs have YET to realize that it's literally sold the very ground upon which it walks for that few extra SUV tanks of gas, the latest tech gizmo, an extra mortgage, & a few more years of remaining asleeeeeepzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Oh, yes & a few countless dead, poisoned, maimed & tortured viable folks, flora & fauna.

Sally ,
Up post I provided a link for the Bangor NBC TV local about the Chinese Language School just opened, in Bangor with a program
Yesterday on cspan there was a Chinese American journalist with a program on how China related to the Iraq war She told about the Chinese Gov. 's plans to open chinese language schools all over!
.
This is a really interesting thread.
PQ

"I am said to be a revolutionist in my sympathies, by birth, by breeding and by principle. I am always on the side of the revolutionists, because there never was a revolution unless there were some oppressive and intolerable conditions against which to revolute."
- quoted in New York Sun, Tribune, World, 1906 (in defense of Maxim Gorky) - MARK TWAIN

A nice place to spend a little time....

http://www.awakened1.blogspot.com/

Pat...I am confused....chinese language school leaching what? English? or chinese to americans?

Looks to me an invasion is underway....?

Hi, all. Just poking my head in again in the interest of historical accuracy. It was Sir Thomas More who stood in the way Henry VIII's divorce from Catherine of Aragon, his first wife and daughter of Ferdinand and Isabella of Spain. Henry had to off Sir Thomas before he could start his cycle of "wed and behead". Without his head, he was later canonized as St Thomas More. In addition, the only two wives of Henry's to take a header were Anne Boleyn and Katherine Howard.

Also, does anybody have an astrological time machine and remembers who said that Bill Clinton would be the last elected president of the United States? I remember reading this around the time when he last ran for president in 1996, and I cannot remember what site I read it on or who said it.

Thanks!

Noelle

Lou Dobss speaking about how the Dubai co has threatened to shut him up...watch the video (down the page a little bit)...he is STEAMED...
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/02/27.html#a7324

Noelle...so many of the good ones got beheaded (or in our contemporary times) shot....

A saint is not a saint without a lot of sacrifice....

but it is true, Henry would brook no one getting in his way...which is what I kind of saw was a similarity from VIII to Jr.chimp.

The Seekers
The birth and life of the '9-11 Truth movement'

by Jarrett Murphy
February 21st, 2006 11:48 AM

illustration: Sam Weber
The ABC's of 9-11:
What Really Happened: A Beginner's Guide to the 'Truth' Movement
by Jarrett Murphy

Conspiracy 101
The basics of alternative 9-11 theories

The Usual Suspects
What it takes to make a conspiracy theory

Your Turn: Ground Zero Stories?
Experts want to interview the 2,000 who made it out of WTC 1 & 2
Power Plays by Jarrett Murphy


Essentially, it's all about physics and common sense. Cut steel, and buildings fall. Crash a plane, and the Earth gets scarred. Fire a missile; see a hole. What's up must come down, cause makes effect, and for the truth to set you free, it must be freed itself.
It's dark in the basement of St. Mark's Church and dark outside on a mid-December Sunday night, but inside they have seen the light. Among the 100 or so people in the room, many wear buttons that read "9/11 Was An Inside Job." Others grip the vital texts in their hands—Crossing the Rubicon, The New Pearl Harbor, or 9/11 Synthetic Terror. Most in the largely (but not exclusively) white and male crowd can quote you the important passages from "Rebuilding America's Defenses" or The 9/11 Commission Report. A few can guide you through the details of concepts like "peak oil" and pyroclastic flow. All of them suspect—and a few simply know—that their government was somehow complicit in the attacks that killed nearly 3,000 Americans four Septembers ago.

http://villagevoice.com/generic/show_print.php?id=72254&page=murphy&issue=0608&printcde=MzQyMzQ1NDg3NQ==&refpage=L25ld3MvaW5kZXgucGhwP2lzc3VlPTA2MDgmcGFnZT1tdXJwaHkmaWQ9NzIyNTQ=

PS...just had the time to look up the Sabian symbol for Gemini 9
A QUIVER FILLED WITH ARROWS

THIS IS A SYMBOL OF EXTREME ALERTNESS TO THE INTERESTS AND NEEDS OF SELFHOOD, AND OF HIGH COMPETENCY IN PURSUING ANY AND ALL PRACTICAL ENDS IN VIEW. THERE IS A BASIC EMPHASIS ON THE INALIENABLE RIGHT OF MAN TO MAKE DEMANDS ON HIS FELLOWS, OR TO BRING TO HIS SERVICES WHATEVER MAY HELP HIM HOLD HIS PLACE IN THE SCHEME OF THINGS. HERE ARE THE FRUITS OF THE SELF-DISCIPLINE AND TRAINING WHICH EQUIP AN INDIVIDUAL WITH THE SKILLS FOR WHICH HE WILL HAVE CONTINUAL USE. THE KEYWORD IS PREPARATION. WHEN POSITIVE, THE DEGREE IS UNLIMITED PERSONAL CAPACITY FOR RISING TOTHE ISSUE OF THE MOMENT ON ANY LEVEL OF EXPERIENCE, AND WHEN NEGATIVE, QUERULOUS OVERCONFIDENCE AND QUIXOTIC NOTIONS.
------- I didn't mean to do this in caps....I was typing and looking at the book, and didn't see it happening. But this will mean anyone with 8+ degrees of Gemini will have this energy....and if you don't remember the context, it is the midpoint of the sextile end of the finger of god yod which we were discusing....thanks all...!

"Sir Thomas More, who had left office in 1532, accepted that Parliament could make Anne Queen, but refused to acknowledge its religious authority. Instead, he held that the Pope remained the head of the Church. As a result, he was charged with high treason, and beheaded in 1535. Judging him to be a martyr, the Catholic Church later made him a saint."

Shylurker, thanks for the gracisous compliments, and Timothy on the Big Island, aloha back at you.

Sam Seder is talking about the sale of america....he is saying that Bush has bankrupted this country and is having to sell off pieces wholesale to keep the country from being foreclosed upon....well, ain't it interesting, I was foreclosed upon under daddy bush...I see a pattern here....bush jr is just a bigger forecloser.

Seriously....this is bushonomics 101. And he did it with Texas, and he did it to the companies he was involved with. But who is big daddy now, to bail him out? The Dubai folk and China?!!!!

wow Judi, that is quite the video on Lou Dobbs!
All I can say, its about time! Comforting in light of the fact that he is a longtime conservative business/financial person. Anyone know what his astro stuff portends?
I wonder how the US power broker prostitutes will try to discredit him henceforth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lou_Dobbs
wikipedia's bio on Dobbs. Born sept 24 1945.
Off I go to astro.com

Kiwi Jeanie...anyone who stands up for his principles rather than accommodating the higherups is a hero. Or a fool....or a saint.

I would guess you could tell a lot about character depending on which one a person thought More was!

Yes, Lou (who was born with a Neptune sun conjunction, although mostl ikely it was separating, has found his voice. Hope he doesn't end of like Sir Thomas. Wish Ted Turner was still running CNN.

oh my...story on Dubai port going to BOYCOTT Israel....
The parent company of a Dubai-based firm at the center of a political storm in the US over the purchase of American ports participates in the Arab boycott against Israel, The Jerusalem Post has learned.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1139395502196&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

A couple of corrections on my Ernest Hollings post....he wasn't the one profiled in Ma Jones...it was Walter Jones, North Carolina, who has done the about face about Iraq. Still loved it when Holllings ratted out K Street and the money game....

I am also working on finding out who bought P & O from Lord Inchcape. It is listed in the Shipping News as P&O Nedlloyd which is #6 in the amount of container traffic it handles (4.4% worldwide) and it is listed as FESCO P&O NEDLLOYD on a different list. No mention of Carlyle, still looking. Pat PQ, where did you hear that Carlyle had bought P&O?

On another list, CSX shipping profits (that is John Snow's company) is listed in 2002 as 7th largest. P&O was listed as 26th and was in the RED.

From billpress.com:
http://www.billpress.com/columns.html

he just says that P&O sold to the UAE last year....I would think that the Nedlloyd name might indicate that Lloyd's of London might have a stake in it.

bill writes:
Who sold all their shipping operations in Hong Kong and South America to Dubai Ports? The Carlyle Group! Who’s already one of Dubai Ports’ biggest customers? Horizon Lines, the former CSX Lines, now owned by — you guessed it — the Carlyle Group!

And who stands to make a ton of money from all the business that Carlyle’s fleet of Horizon Line ships is going to do with Dubai Ports? Old Pappy Bush himself, who is a major shareholder in, and big-time consultant to — the Carlyle Group!

I am going to offer another Sabian symbol...this one is 27 Sagittarius, where the CG is, where Pluto is right now. (and lucky me, my Part of Fortune)
A SCULPTOR
This is a symbol of creative ability as the manifestation of self-counsciousness in its maturity of realization, dramatized by an irresistible desire to endow all life with some enduring potentiality. Here are the enlarged horizons which follow from an individual's mastery of his own particular talents, and from the expanded vision which he must develp and share with his fellows if he is to possess it for himself. He is able to idealize nature because he has brought her to subjection. The keyword is IMMORTALIZATION When positive, the degree is exceptional self-expression through a gift for building all experience into a personal fulfillment; and when negative, callous impersonality and overambitioous pretenstions..

And guys, Bill goes on to say that chimp will be VERY rich when he inherits Daddy's money. Now there's another connection I didn't see coming. WHAM! he is positioning himself to be the ruler of the world.

AT THE CLOSING BELL WHEN BUSH TOOK OFFICE on January 22, 2001
Dow - 10,578.24
Nasdaq - 2,757.91
S&P 500 - 1,342.90
Oil - $27.69/bbl
Gold - $266.70/oz.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=2136575&mesg_id=2136575
AT THE CLOSING BELL ON February 27, 2006

Dow... 11,097.55 +35.70 (+0.32%)
Nasdaq... 2,307.18 +20.14 (+0.88%)
S&P 500... 1,294.12 +4.69 (+0.36%)
30-Year Bond 4.55% +0.03 (+0.66%)
10-Yr Bond... 4.59% +0.02 (+0.50%)
Gold future... 557.00 -4.20 (-0.75%)

A couple of comments...

(1) Found this on the Earth Changes TV site:

'Public Court' Holds Bush Guilty of Perpetrating Terrorism
By Hala Jaber, Indo-Asian News Service
Feb 26, 2006, 20:05

A 'praja court' (public court) here Sunday held US President George W. Bush guilty of "perpetrating terrorism in the name of fighting terrorism and killing people including women and children".
Bush, who is scheduled to visit the Andhra Pradesh capital March 3, the last day of his three-day visit to India, faced charges ranging from war mongering and mass killings to violation of all international charters and aggression against sovereign countries.

A jury comprising retired Supreme Court judge B.S.A. Swamy, human rights activist G. Haragopal and prominent writer-activist Rama Milkote heard the people and upheld eight charges against Bush.

The jury held Bush guilty of "perpetrating terrorism in the name of fighting against terrorism" and "attacking and threatening other countries using the issue of nuclear weapons as a pretext".

Bush was also found to be guilty of human rights violations and large- scale killing of people, including women and children, especially in Afghanistan and Iraq and of creating a sense of insecurity in the world.

"It is a fit case to be tried in the international court of justice," said the jury.

The public hearing on "crimes of George Bush" was held by a coalition of 40 groups including Left parties and their affiliated organisations, human rights and women's groups, and trade unions.

This was the first time that such a public hearing was held n the country against any visiting head of state or government.

A total of 13 people deposed before the jury, which asked the Indian government to call off Bush's visit.

Earth Changes TV

(2) Did anyone see Lou Dobbs last night when he said (several times) that even if there is a 45 day investigation on the port deal, it doesn't really matter because the closing for purchase actually takes place THURSDAY (March 2)?

Remember Harken Energy?

Remember junior's Harken Energy that was going bankrupt?

Remember who bought it, and saved his skin?

The UAE, of course.

Surely junior owes the UAE a debt, a private debt - but not at the expense of this country and its people.

Lou Dobbs poll tonight if you want to put your two cents in on the 45 day review:

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/

Look what else Lou has up on his site:

"Send a message

Contact your Congress members to tell them what you think about current legislative issues, ask questions or suggest policy changes.

Go to the Senate and House of Representatives Web sites to look up your representatives and find out how to get in touch with them by mail, e-mail or phone. "

http://www.house.gov/

http://www.senate.gov/

Carlysle GROUP bought P & O ...................................
According to Bill Gallagher of the Niagra Falls Reporter ( the journalist who brought us Guckert/Gannon) that wasn't quite accurate; although I 'm sure I read it or heard it somewhere else the other day. Waynemadsen Report? Democracy Now?
Here's Gallagers story.......................
The Carlyle Group, one of the most successful private equity groups in the world, is deeply involved in business deals with the UAE. Carlyle includes the military contractor United Defense in its portfolio, along with a number of projects and interests in the Middle East.

Here's where things start getting entangled. Back in 2003, Carlyle bought CSX World Terminals, a port management outfit, for $300 million. At the time, Jack Snow, now the secretary of the Treasury and the man responsible for reviewing the Dubai Ports World deal, was chairman of CSX.

Just two years later, Carlyle sold World Terminals to the company that became Dubai Ports World for a cool $1.2 billion, turning a 400 percent profit. How could the value of the company grow so dramatically and so fast? You don't suppose someone might have whispered into the sheiks' ears that they could look forward to expanding their port business into the United States with no problems?

Dubai Ports World then bought out the long-established British company, Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation, for $6.8 billion, and gained
for full story........ a really GOOD read!
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/article.php?sid=25041&mode=&order=0

Yale now has a Taliban student, Wolf Blitzer is about to tell us.........
Sorry for the sketchy reporting, I am a full time tile layer, full time computer tech & full time house cleaner......that's about 120 hours a week!!!!!
PQ

Hashimi / Nashimi......Was with the Taliban before & AFTER 9/11, has a student visa to attend Yale.
Wonder who vetted him for the CIA???????
PQ

JuiG
Check out my post re: Chinese Language school ( to teach Mainers to speak Chinese ) up at Feb. 27 2:48
PQ

Sorry,
My post is probably gone.it was the NBC local nightly news.
The Ch Language school, some Mainers who are taking the course are planning to EMIGRATE from Bangor Maine to China
Not suprising, in a kinder gentler America: WE built the SHIPS, WE SAILED THEM TO CHINA, WE made the profit!!!!!!! Some MaINERS ARE STILL LIVING ON THE INTEREST FROM THAT MONEY!
Now, according to Lou Dobbs we only own 2% of the shipping, otherwise we taxpayers pay to RENT ships & crews ffrom other nations!
My opposition to the Dubi Port deal is, They already have their natural resource (oil), we used to have a properous shipping business in this country, now they will profit from both ( except an exclusive few Davos Group people) WE PROFIT NOT!
At least we don't have to worry about Arabs attacking America any more............ The "Terra" has served it's purpose.......now we can be friends with Arabs again!
PQ

Latest post (part of it, anyway) from stevejudd.co.uk:
"The total eclipse at the end of March is a new dawn, and from then on things will be very different and a lot clearer. Till then, buckle your seat belts and check in with your intuition every couple of hours. Globally, current times are seen as very meaningful for China and it’s long term plans, with the horoscope of both the CIA and Israel coming up for strong Saturn pressure at the end of the month. Yesterday’s new Moon and the Mercury station at the end of March are square to the 9/11 degrees, where Saturn and Pluto were over four years ago, on the US Ascendant. Something big and overblown is imminent."

Oh, dear.

This Dubai deal is actually getting interesting. I haven't seen so much public arousal in ages.

The new twist is so much a part of this Pluto station coming up and now Mars in Gemini going information crazy, and that is the company's boycott of Israel. So a money deal has taken on religious implications.

Our foreign policy has been staunchly allied with Israel and now, Pluto and merging and big money are clashing with ideology, Sagittarius. The connection with terrorist funding becomes even more important. And all the way back to basic security.

So the question seems to be, is this country selling it's soul for money? Going for the bucks and dealing with any criminal element without investigation? Allowing greed to dominate and fear of facing our indebtedness. Pluto and the North Node in Scorpio are lessons around debt and it is bound to come our way as we learn how to negotiate, not always holding the high card. Lessons of principles versus easy money and how to best pay back our debt, both material and karmic.
Even though the leaders are playing their usual games, the deeper issues are emerging.
The one unusual factor is our society's involvement in this process. How many of these deals have gone on in secret? This might be a new development.

It's our money, after all. April 15 is around the corner.

This says it all from a senator in today's hearings...about the nomination of Sanborn to head the Maritime Administration.

"Unless the administration gives us the facts about this ports deal, I’m prepared to put a hold on their nominee to head the Maritime Administration. He worked for Dubai Ports World when this deal was rushed through under cover of darkness without sufficient security review. In the post 9/11 world, we need to know why.”

Yeah. Their famous post 9/11 world.
It could be the unraveling of their web, or it could be another one of their successful games. There certainly could be factions within at war. Who knows? We'll see.

Pallas, and All:

Thanks for the Dobbs links which I will take care of tomorrow. I did vote though -- 98% said NO.

Elizabeth Vargas interviewed Bush on Katrina, Iraq War. huffington post has it as top story right now and a video and transcript link.

I am so sick of hearing him always blame something or someone for all the problems here and abroad. Just sick of it! No it's called "situational awareness" that was the problem with Katrina.

I would be so ashamed of myself if I were the country's leader, always looking like a complete jerk, incompetent, fool and going in front of them with such phony excuses. Seems like he would tire of it himself. He talks about lessons learned from Katrina.....And I ask....WHAT LESSONS? With the history of hurrincanes that this country has seems to me that all the lessons should have been learned by now. Does he really think people are going to fall for these lame excuses? I am getting sick.

By Robert Fisk

Everyone in the Middle East rewrites history, but never before have we had a US administration so wilfully, dishonestly and ruthlessly reinterpreting tragedy as success, defeat as victory, death as life - helped, I have to add, by the compliant American press. - We are pushing hundreds of thousands of Arabs though the butchers' shops - and don't even care.

http://informationclearinghouse.info/article12083.htm

I'm with you Beverly, SICK SICK SICK!
Ray of light. I found a new documentary channel. They are doing, the holocost & the inception of Isreal!
The narrator is a rather realistic Isreali woman. She is saying that the emotional response was "engeneeered"! propagandized, created. Sound familiar
Kissinger left Germany at 15 in 1935. He lost 13 family members in Germany
I hope some young people are watching.
PQ

Date:01/03/2006 URL: http://www.thehindu.com/2006/03/01/stories/2006030102951000.htm
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Opinion - Letters to the Editor

Bush is not welcome

Arundhati Roy has mirrored the feelings of the entire cross section of Indians. Though written satirically, there is an undercurrent of truth in the article "George Bush go home" (Feb. 28) that tastes bitter. That George W. Bush is going to address us makes a mockery of the democracy and freedom we preach. Let the whole world know that while bureaucratic India extends a red carpet welcome to Mr. Bush, he is most unwelcome to patriotic Indian citizens.

R. Dharmaraja,
Coimbatore

By publishing the article, The Hindu has reaffirmed the values its founders stood for. True, Mr. Bush is not welcome here or in any self-respecting nation. He has defied the world by attacking Iraq and his hands are soiled with the blood of fellow human beings. I am, without doubt, among the millions who will groan and wince when Rajghat is defiled by his visit.

K.N.A. Ramchander,
Bangalore

Ms. Roy deserves praise and solidarity for articulating the sentiments of millions of Indians. The battle cry "George Bush go home" will surely echo in New Delhi's corridors of power.

C. John Rose,
Arumanai, T.N.

We are ashamed to have Mr. Bush as the nation's guest. What he really deserves are black flags and shouts of protests.

P. Hariprasad Krishnan,
Ernakulam, Kerala

The article echoes the sentiments of millions of Indians and other peace lovers throughout the world. Hats off to The Hindu for publishing the piece that minced no words on the eve of Mr. Bush's visit.

C.G. Senthilkumar,
Davis, California

I join Ms. Roy in protesting Mr. Bush's visit. I am aghast that Mr. Bush will place flowers on the memorial of one who sacrificed his life for non-violence. I am also ashamed that the Government is extending a red carpet welcome to the perpetrator of crimes against humanity.

R.G. Bhandiwad,
Dharwad, Karnataka

Ms. Roy's views reflect the sentiment of many others whose voices will not be heard by Mr. Bush. It is true that the soul of the Mahatma, an eternal symbol of non-violence, will grieve when Mr. Bush's bloodstained hands lay a wreath on his memorial.

S.M. Basha,
Kurnool, A.P.

My mind recollects a scene from Quo Vadis, in which Roman General Marcus Vinicius rides in triumph through the streets of Rome. He is puffed up with pride and arrogance when he sees thousands of people on both sides of the street giving him a rousing reception.

Behind him stands a slave who holds a crown of olive leaves above his head and goes on repeating the words, "Remember, thou art only a man."

K.S.S. Sarma,
Kurnool, A.P.

I understand the writer's feelings and am sure a large number of people will share her views. But protest meetings and rallies are not the answer to Mr. Bush. The most effective way to handle his visit would be to ignore it, and refuse to attend his meeting. That will be the truly Gandhian way of protesting.

J. Premachandran,
Chennai

© Copyright 2000 - 2006 The Hindu

Iraq pushes Bush support to all time low
· Sectarian carnage ends hopes for early troop exit
· President's ratings same as Nixon's second term

Julian Borger in Washington and Michael Howard in Irbil
Wednesday March 1, 2006

Guardian

Profound pessimism about the Iraq war has pushed George Bush's popularity to an all-time low of 34%, as polls yesterday showed American civilians and soldiers at odds with the White House over US objectives and strategy.
While some of the drop in support is attributable to discontent with domestic policies, it is clear the sectarian bloodletting in Iraq over the past week has extinguished hopes that December's elections could help stabilise the country and pave the way for US troop withdrawal.

Carnage returned yesterday to Baghdad and the Sunni triangle a day after the lifting of the daytime curfews imposed in an attempt to stop the slide into civil war after last week's bombing of a Shia shrine.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,,329423644-103550,00.html

Devastating cartoon from Steve Bell - Bush
in India...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/cartoons/stevebell/archive/0,,1284265,00.html

Surely Americans will not put up with this censorship
The decision by a New York theatre to cave in to pressure over our play shows how the scope for free debate has narrowed

Katharine Viner
Wednesday March 1, 2006

Guardian

The flights for cast and crew had been booked; the production schedule delivered; the press announcement drafted and approved; tickets advertised on the internet. The Royal Court production of My Name Is Rachel Corrie, the play I co-edited with Alan Rickman, was transferring next month to the New York Theatre Workshop, home of the groundbreaking musical Rent, following two sellout runs in London and several awards.
We always thought that it was a piece of work that needed to be seen in the US. Created from the journals and emails of American activist Rachel Corrie, telling of her journey from her adolescent life in Seattle, Washington, to her death under a bulldozer in Gaza at the age of 23, we considered it, in a sense, to be an American story, which would have a particular relevance for audiences in Rachel's home country. After all, she had made her journey to the Middle East in order "to meet the people who are on the receiving end of our [American] tax dollars", and she was a killed by a US-made bulldozer.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,,329423718-103677,00.html

Poll: U.S. Troops in Iraq: 72% Say End War in 2006

By Zogby

Almost 90% think war is retaliation for Saddam's role in 9/11, most don't blame Iraqi public for insurgent attacks

http://informationclearinghouse.info/article12103.htm

The Troops Want to End Iraq Occupation in 2006

By Richard B. Mazess

The Reserves and National Guard are overwhelming in favor of withdrawal (89% and 82%) this year compared to the Army and Marines (69% and 58% respectively). Even more impressively, three-quarters of the Guard and Reserves, and half of the Army, favored withdrawal within 6 months.

http://informationclearinghouse.info/article12115.htm

The Soldiers Speak. Will President Bush Listen?

By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF

When President Bush held a public meeting with troops by satellite last fall, they were miraculously upbeat. And all along, unrepentant hawks (most of whom have never been to Iraq) have insisted that journalists are misreporting Iraq and that most soldiers are gung-ho about their mission. Hogwash! A new poll to be released today shows that U.S. soldiers overwhelmingly want out of Iraq ? and soon.

http://informationclearinghouse.info/article12116.htm

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/

OFF TOPIC BUT VERY IMPORTANT.

VOTE IS THURS. MARCH 2ND.

From the Organic Consumers Association:

Congress Poised to Pass Bill Taking Away Right to Know What's in Your Food

Tell your Congressman or Congresswoman to vote "No" on House of Representatives Bill H.R. 4167, the "National Uniformity for Food Act"

The House of Representatives will vote this week on a controversial "national food uniformity" labeling law that will take away local government and states' power to require food safety food labels such as those required in California and other states on foods or beverages that are likely to cause cancer, birth defects, allergic reactions, or mercury poisoning. This bill would also prevent citizens in local municipalities and states from passing laws requiring that genetically engineered foods and ingredients such as Monsanto's recombinant Bovine Growth Hormone (rBGH) be labeled.

The House will vote March 2, 2006 on a bill that would gut state food safety and labeling laws. H.R. 4167, the "National Uniformity for Food Act," lowers the bar on food safety by overturning state food safety laws that are not "identical" to federal law. Hundreds of state laws and regulations are at risk, including those governing the safety of milk, fish, and shellfish. The bill is being pushed by large supermarket chains and food manufacturers, spearheaded by the powerful Grocery Manufacturers of America.

Big food corporations and the biotech industry understand that consumers are more and more concerned about food safety, genetic engineering, and chemical-intensive agriculture, and are reading labels more closely. They understand that pesticide and mercury residues and hazardous technologies such as genetic engineering and food irradiation will be rejected if there are truthful labels required on food products. Industry-sponsored H.R. 4167 is gaining momentum and must be stopped! Act now! Preserve local and regional democracy and protect yourself and your family from unsafe food by sending an email or calling your Representative and urging them to vote "No" on H.R. 4167.

AND

FROM THE TOLEDO BLADE

“DESPITE their professed disdain for "one size fits all" laws, Republicans in Congress are ganging up with potentially dangerous legislation that would require uniform food-labeling regulations in all 50 states.

Such a federal law could be misleading or pose a hazard to consumers, who are now protected by the kind of individual state regulations that, in Michigan, for example, require a warning about possible allergic reactions to sulfites in bulk food. Or an Ohio regulation that forbids the use of the word "honey" on a food label unless the product actually contains honey. ...

Such labels and warnings on store shelves and in advertising would have to gain approval of federal regulators, and might be rejected, under the disingenuously titled "National Uniformity for Food Act," sponsored by U.S. Rep. Mike Rogers, Republican of Michigan. The measure has 225 co-sponsors, including a few Democrats, in the House of Representatives.

Opponents contend that the real motive behind the proposal, being pushed by the food industry, is to dilute California food-labeling regulations, which were approved by voters in a ballot initiative back in 1986 and are more stringent than federal rules. This is a reasonable and not unduly alarmist conclusion. In nearly every instance pitting consumer protection against industry interests over the past five years, the Bush Administration has sided with industry.

You can call 888-818-6641, 888-355-3588 or 800-426-8073 and ask for your legislator.

OR GO TO
http://www.house.gov/

The operation manager for Dubai Ports World is Edward BILKEY ! Bilkey! You couldn't make that up
What's this country club, pink Brit. doing running an Arab company? He is also clueless as to the contents of the containers!
Boxer's reaction? "I feel like Barbara in Wonderland"
Ted Stevens cut off her mike!
Cspan 2
PQ

Oh, Pat QOP, that is priceless!

Just back at the computer and catching up with this fast-moving group.

Noelle, yes, that quote about Clinton being the last elected president sure does ring a bell. I'm going to Google and try to find out who said it. After the 2000 election was stolen I furled my flag and swore never to fly it again until we had a legally elected president. I didn't even fly it at 9-11. (A real president would have read the briefings and prevented that one.) Also, like many here, I am suspicious that the Bush gang knew well enough that it was coming. I hope I'll be able to fly that flag again someday.

Joanna, your Mark Twain quote reminded me of another one. The NYC reporters loved to go by Mark Twain's house and ask for a comment because it was always good copy. When an infamous Tammany Hall politician died, the NYC reporters visited Mark Twain and asked him if he would be attending the funeral.

"No, " said Mark Twain, who was quite elderly then. "I won't be able to attend the event, but I do approve of it."

Sally, 800 years is a very long time for any one nation to dominate the globe. Looking back through history, it seems that most nations and superpowers have emerged, reached their zenith for a time, and then have gone into decline or collapsed, largely corresponding with the cycles of Uranus, Neptune and Pluto. China has survived and endured in some form or another for centuries, so maybe this resiliency would factor into their long-term dominance?

Even if so, I can't help but think that they will be undergoing some massive revolutionary changes during the next decade or two. And there are other emerging nations, such as India, and alliances such as in South America, which will also have major roles to play.

China has been

India is on the rise and I think will be a major player. It's interesting that it is a country that staged a nonviolent revolution against a mighty empire.
I think it might not be one superpower that dominates but some other distribution of power that has yet to be revealed.
We're in a demolition now, no doubt, but because we are immersed in it, we can't yet see exactly what is coming down. I don't think it's a country at all.

I expected this when Jupiter went into Scorpio and mutual reception with Pluto.
Many astrologers, me among them, believe that Scorpio is the completion of interpersonal merging and that Sagittarius is the start of the transpersonal. We are in an exceptional time now with all the outer planets in the transpersonal sector and I think we are making a collective step forward.

When we leave Scorpio and the depth of the personal we come into Sagittarius and encounter for the first time the greater dimension we live in. "Pontiff" means bridge builder, and we enter a new territory. It is awe inspiring and frightening and we named it's ruler God some time back. We are invited to leave behind the interpersonal security we had within a very finite universe and since we are entering a vast unknown we have to rely on trust, faith, and guidance. As scared as we are, we are entranced and can't help but go forward.

Sometimes man confuses himself with this God creature and sometimes he really is the entity. So comes the puzzle. Are we dominated by other people, by God, or by none of the above.
To me, the cons, the elite rulers, the dictators, and all of them are child's play when it comes to real power.

I think that's what is happening to the collective now and the old views of God are coming down leaving us naked in a new dimension.

We are being asked to leave behind some of the Scorpio type behaviors of revenge, jealousy, blaming others for our agony, fear of being overpowered by people, and things like that. When we go on to Sagittarius and discover the vast orchestration with a greater power at the helm, the rulers we were under become greatly diminished. They are merely a part of the whole and vehicles to get us where we are going on this unknowable journey through life, death, and beyond. When we get excited about the universe, the petty doings of all these people become less interesting. And eventually they fade away, which is exactly what will happen to the neocons.
But we are the ones who have to let go at this crossroads.

I meant to add that I think this is why we are encountering such a block to stopping their criminal activities. The usual avenues are closed. By all logic, he should have been impeached long ago. We have to complete this and really be finished. I think we are learning to just step beyond all of it and embrace the unknown. But so far we don't know who will guide us. I don't really care what happens to these unfortunate people. I don't even want to know. All I know is that I don't want to be a part of their activity. I believe if we take the step, leave this behind, including all of our recent presidents, we will find our new leaders when we get there.

UK's Palden Jenkins has written an interesting perspective on nationhood and globalization from a historical and forward-looking point of view "healing the hurts of nations" - here is the link for anyone that wishes to read
http://www.palden.co.uk/hhn/pt1.html

he writes:
Attempts at globalisation whether intended or not
- Alexander the Great, 334-323 BCE
- Rome, Han China & the Silk Roads, 100-200
- The Muslim ascendancy, 630-720
- Crusaders and Emirs, 1100s
- The Mongols, 1200s
- Chinese world voyages, 1420s
- European explorers, colonialists and missionaries, 1500s-1700s
- Industrial trade empires, 1800s
- Superpower hegemony, 1900s

http://www.palden.co.uk/hhn/pt2-06-silkroads.html

http://www.palden.co.uk/hhn/print-hhn-supp2.html

Patriarchy is sooooo narcissistic.

Very interesting blog by a woman who knows many of these neoCon people personally:

http://howtheneoconsstolefreedom.blogspot.com/

Sally, thanks for a great article. The historical background on the British East India Corp is so helpful on putting current events into perspective. I knew that corporations were granted "citizen status" but had no idea it began in 1886! Thanks again for your insight and your articles. You have such a wonderful voice for telling it like it is while expressing optimism and positivity.
Blessed Be,
Rush
(Dommael)

Hi...got this from a friend in Ohio who has been watching Dobbs again:
I checked out Dobbs tonight and it was a fiasco on Bush. There's much more momentum than even last fall.
Now Dobbs has a logical connection between Bush's lack of an immigration policy, the failure and encouragement of outsourcing businesses
and the port sale, all of which show he's not the slightest bit interested in the American public, following procedure or homeland security.
No one believes in him and he's off in India trying to seal a big business deal to sell nuclear power plants to India, which is the only interests
he's represented to date. I think his ratings will go even lower. His whole staff is hopeless and half of his team is in some kind of legal/criminal trouble.
All this has roots deeper than Bush, but the warped values of the last 20 years are just coming to the surface and the Bush team exemplifies the worst
-----
I thought it was worth posting....!

Kiwi...I really like Palden Jenkins....glad you posted that link.

Pat S...thanks for the follow up on that Carlyle / P&O thing....and the Chinese language thing. Interesting! My mother's people built Clipper ships (some in Main, some in Mystic, CT, Uraguay, and Honolulu) for the various builders in the mid 1800's...AND sailed them, captained them.. My gr.gr.grandfather died on a trip to China in 1840....28 years old - his father and uncle died in a storm when they were swept overboard (Capt & first mate). It wasn't uncommon to do that....Lord Inchcapes' father died c. 1847 or so by being swept off his ship between London and Nova Scotia...

And we think we live a tough liffe. I wonder if those tough lives is what made America great, and now....we as americans are flatlined greedy spoiled wealthy syncophantic dead souled drugged overweight losers. At least at the levels which make a difference.

Essay]

The Case for Impeachment

Why we can no longer afford George W. Bush
Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006. An excerpt from an essay in the March 2006 Harper's Magazine. By Lewis H. Lapham.

A country is not only what it does—it is also what it puts up with, what it tolerates. —Kurt Tucholsky

On December 18 of last year, Congressman John Conyers Jr. (D., Mich.) introduced into the House of Representatives a resolution inviting it to form “a select committee to investigate the Administration's intent to go to war before congressional authorization, manipulation of pre-war intelligence, encouraging and countenancing torture, retaliating against critics, and to make recommendations regarding grounds for possible impeachment.” Although buttressed two days previously by the news of the National Security Agency's illegal surveillance of the American citizenry, the request attracted little or no attention in the press—nothing on television or in the major papers, some scattered applause from the left-wing blogs, heavy sarcasm on the websites flying the flags of the militant right. The nearly complete silence raised the question as to what it was the congressman had in mind, and to whom did he think he was speaking? In time of war few propositions would seem as futile as the attempt to impeach a president whose political party controls the Congress; as the ranking member of the House Judiciary Committee stationed on Capitol Hill for the last forty years, Representative Conyers presumably knew that to expect the Republican caucus in the House to take note of his invitation, much less arm it with the power of subpoena, was to expect a miracle of democratic transformation and rebirth not unlike the one looked for by President Bush under the prayer rugs in Baghdad. Unless the congressman intended some sort of symbolic gesture, self-serving and harmless, what did he hope to prove or to gain? He answered the question in early January, on the phone from Detroit during the congressional winter recess.

http://harpers.org/TheCaseForImpeachment.html

Thanks for the link to the anti-NeoCon blogger, Barbara. She is extremely informative. If everyone in this country could see AND comprehend what she is talking about, not only would Americans collectively be in the streets, they would figuratively do to the NeoConservative methodology what Rome did to Carthage -- oblitterate it entirely, and pour salt over it so that it could never grow again.

She's got one point right on: We cannot win by fighting a defensive battle. But that's exactly what we in the opposition have been doing since these very destructive people emerged into power. We keep thinking that they will eventually stumble and fall down, and that we will overtake them in a fair and accurate election. But Bush, Cheney, Rove and Co. won't stop until we force them to. And when they control the elections themselves, it's going to take more drastic and "creative" measures to do so. Perhaps a real wrench thrown into the economic works is a necessity.

Whatever we do -- and hopefully it is peaceful -- to win, we do need to go on the offensive and confront them directly with a very different and much better vision and plan for our world and our future. Under comparative, honest scrutiny, there is absolutely no way that their plan can hold up against ours, and that is what they very much fear.

As discontent grows, I actually do see movements cropping up at the fringes, and some are being rather bold about it (be warned if you are concerned about the links you surf to): http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=10677

As the Corporate-NeoCon hand attempts to tighten its' seemingly fearsome, yet fearful grip upon the people, the backlash will only swell and spread. This could be what takes shape as the year rolls on, coming to a head in August with the Uranian transits.

Thanks for the link to the anti-NeoCon blogger, Barbara. She is extremely informative. If everyone in this country could see AND comprehend what she is talking about, not only would Americans collectively be in the streets, they would figuratively do to the NeoConservative methodology what Rome did to Carthage -- oblitterate it entirely, and pour salt over it so that it could never grow again.

She's got one point right on: We cannot win by fighting a defensive battle. But that's exactly what we in the opposition have been doing since these very destructive people emerged into power. We keep thinking that they will eventually stumble and fall down, and that we will overtake them in a fair and accurate election. But Bush, Cheney, Rove and Co. won't stop until we force them to. And when they control the elections themselves, it's going to take more drastic and "creative" measures to do so. Perhaps a real wrench thrown into the economic works is a necessity.

Whatever we do -- and hopefully it is peaceful -- to win, we do need to go on the offensive and confront them directly with a very different and much better vision and plan for our world and our future. Under comparative, honest scrutiny, there is absolutely no way that their plan can hold up against ours, and that is what they very much fear.

As discontent grows, I actually do see movements cropping up at the fringes, and some are being rather bold about it (be warned if you are concerned about the links you surf to): http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=10677

As the Corporate-NeoCon hand attempts to tighten its' seemingly fearsome, yet fearful grip upon the people, the backlash will only swell and spread. This could be what takes shape as the year rolls on, coming to a head in August with the Uranian transits.

wv, thanks for posting re Lapham's report (Harpers, March issue) on impeaching Bush. I had been meaning to subscribe to Harpers and finally did (only $11. for one year) but too late to get the March issue. So I bought the March issue at the bookstore ($7 yikes.) I've been reading Lapham's report for hours now. It is taking me a long time--every couple of paragraphs I have to put it down because the pages are too hot to hold.

NEOBuckeye, thanks for comments re Melinda Pillsbury-Foster's blog. Personally, I am so ready to go on the offensive, if I could figure out how. All I'm doing right now is writing the local newspaper and my two villainous Senators, which is about as effective as writing Santa suggesting he send a pony.

Got a wonderful Representative, though. I send him thank you notes.

Barbara

Very very informative. I think the most important thing we can do is get completely out of the victim role and understand that we have the power and will remove these people. We don't know when, but it really doesn't matter as long as we regain a psychological advantage. And we have the numbers.
It's a mental game most of all and one thing we can do to start with is to stop letting Bush distract us. He's like a jabbering jack in the box there to spook us as soon as we get a hold of ourselves, and this habitual game could end if we choose that route. Like right now, when he's out of the country and we are so relieved and able to focus on the underlying problem.

A lot of people are aware now and this happened quickly, so the end could be sooner than some think. Once we are serious about the effort, the details of what to do will come. Will and confidence are of utmost importance. The deep desire to end the punishment. And the anticipation of triumph and what a high that will be after so much struggle.

Plus, their illusions are just as subject to shattering as everyone else's, and this might be forthcoming.
Keeping faith is a good idea with a daily vigilance, as they bank on our fear, despair, and helplessness. If they lose that, they will lose the game.

Barbara,
Thanks for posting http://howtheneoconsstolefreedom.blogspot.com/. For anyone that wants to completely understand the rise of the present neocon movement ~ Leo Strauss and the American Right/ by Shadia B Drury ~ it’s a must read!
If you really want to understand this current nightmare we are in take a look at Mr. Strauss, a reclusive German Jewish émigré and scholar and the godfather of the Republican party’s 1994 Contract with America. This German émigré political philosopher who taught at the University of Chicago in the 50’s and 60’s conceived and gave birth to this monstrous assault on democracy ~ and armed with his twisted ideas he spawned the likes of Robert Bork, Alan Keyes, Irving Kristol, Paul Wolfowitz, Casper Weinberger, William Bennet, Bill Kristol and the list goes on and on of his profound admirers that have been running our government since the Reagan years.

Starrynights, thanks for the book tip. I'll look for it on half-com. Next to these guys Benedict Arnold looks like a pretty decent fellow. (At least he was out in front of his troops among the whizzing bullets and won the Americans some victories before he decided to give the British the plans to West Point.) Benedict Arnold probably wouldn't deign to take tea with our latter-day traitors.

jm, despair and frustration has been my problem--don't feel like a victim--just annoyed as hell because I can't see just where to strike my little blow. You're right, of course, and it is encouraging to remember, "we have the numbers." Lately, I've been thinking about how massive and mighty the Soviets seemed to be, and the Russians threw them out. (It didn't work out as well as it could have, though. If only they had been able to move to a European-type socialism rather than to the hard-hearted capitalism they got stuck with.)

One big lie exposed just now. According to talkingpointsmemo.com (and others are picking it up), there is now a video showing that Smirky was fully briefed about the situation in NOLA the day before. FULLY!

When, oh when, will this madness end?

Poll needs help (to keep it at 99%): Should there be a law saying that ports remain under US control?

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/

Barbara,

I'm actually feeling some despair, myself, which I attribte to the Pisces time of year. Aries will perk things up. We are inside of the experience, can't see the outcome, and really are compelled to go with what life has in store for us. The neocons are pawns in a much bigger game. Our problems are really elsewhere. They are symptoms, so leveling blows against them is useless, until we recognize the underlying causes. I think we are in that process.

The transiting North Node soon to go into Pisces maybe will help us all accept the situation and trust that the right outcome is inevitable.
This situation is inescapable, but things are never what they appear. I don't think we can strike blows now and if we can accept that, maybe an alternative way of coping will show itself. Americans are feeling the oppression more and more and are not used to it. I am willing to give them time to figure out the best path. I used to complain relentlessly about society , but now I think that is counterproductive, and I am trying to bank on any assets I can find, although the flaws remain.

I'm not particularly enthused about the interpersonal insults which I hope will subside in due time. I think our Libra planets indicate a lot of debate but with a desire to compromise and plug one polarity into the other for force and achievement. I think this will come.

There has to be a sound reason for our predicament, and whether it lasts for one more year or twenty, we will go on to another phase when the right time comes. One party rule is excruciating, not only for the opposition, but also for those who think they are allied with the rulers. In a sense, they are worse off because they don't realize that they are being just as dominated and played for fools.

In the meantime, I think just talking together will help us tremendously. In the womb, the murmer of the mother's voice and her heartbeat prepare the creature for life, it seems. After birth, the cooing, singing, and murmering continue. The vibration of the voice reassures.

The wise physician, Christian Northrup, talks about tribes where the women in menopause, when they can't sleep, sit together all night and you can hear the murmer of their voices in the forest.

We can endure this. It might even bring us together in new and permanent ways.

"You have so many relationships in this life,
But only one or two will last.
You go through all the pain and strife,
Then you turn your back and they’re gone so fast.

Oh yeah. they’re gone so fast.

Oh, so hold on to the ones who really care,
In the end they’ll be the only ones there.
When you get old and start losing your hair,
Can you tell me who will still care?
Can you tell me who will still care? oh care.

Chorus:

Mmmbop, ba duba dop ba do bop,
Ba duba dop ba do bop,
Ba duba dop ba do. oh yeah,
Mmmbop ba duba dop ba do bop,
Ba duba dop ba do bop,
Ba duba dop ba do

Oh yeah, in an mmmbop they’re gone. yeah.

Plant a seed, plant a flower,
Plant a rose, you can plant any one of those
Keep planting to find out which one grows.
It’s a secret no one knows.
It’s a secret no one knows.
Oh, no one knows."

I just had to come out of my lurking mode...

first of all, Sally, wonderful, insightful article... as usual...

as for Mu? why in the world would someone insult everyone on this board time after time, and then sign off --- Salaam (Arabic for "Peace")...?

it is like throwing pearls before swine to have a conversation with someone of Mu's light... pretty dark entity... looking for a fight...

filter out the troll... for sure, don't feed the beastie.

An article for Mr. MMMBey about slavery and the Civil War....the link is here
http://www.virtuemag.org/articles/origins-of-the-civil-war-slavery

Origins of the Civil War: Slavery
by Samuel Ashwood

Ask any typical American schoolchild why the War Between the States (commonly designated by the misnomer “civil war”) was fought, and they will tell you, “It was fought over slavery.” The politically correct version of history is that the Northern states rose up in moral indignation against the barbaric system of chattel slavery in the South, and the Southern states, to protect their morally indefensible system, seceded, and attempted to subvert the Constitution and the government.

As is usual, such a simplistic view of history obscures the true facts. Although slavery was a factor, it was never presented as a reason for the war until the Emancipation Proclamation of 1863, which, ironically, was carefully crafted so that it did not free a single slave. It only proclaimed freedom for slaves then in Confederate territory, and left those in United States territory, including areas of the Confederacy under Union control, still in bondage. So much for Lincoln’s humanitarian emancipation. Lincoln even admitted to certain associates that the proclamation was nothing but a war measure, designed to encourage slave revolt in the South. But, even with the vast majority of white males away in the army, there was never any semblance of slave revolt during the war, which casts a shadow of doubt over the concept that Southern slaves were the victims of universal cruelty.

Coming more to the point, though, here is a piece of trivia: who said, “I have no purpose to introduce political and social equality between the white and black races. There is a physical difference between the two, which, in my judgment, will probably forever forbid their living together upon the footing of perfect equality; and inasmuch as it became a necessity that there must be a difference, I, as well as Judge Douglas, am in favor of the race to which I belong having the superior position. I have never said anything to the contrary.” Jefferson Davis? John Calhoun? Some virulently racist Southern politician? Does it surprise you to know that the answer is Abraham Lincoln? So much for the great proponent of racial equality.

In Thomas DiLorenzo’s classic book The Real Lincoln, he demonstrates that racial prejudice against Negroes was as great, or greater, in the North than in the South. Most Northerners, Lincoln included, opposed the extension of slavery in the western states, not because of moral indignation, but because they feared competition with free white labor. Lincoln himself said in an 1864 speech, “The whole nation is interested that the best use shall be made of these territories. We want them for the homes of free white people.” And, as regards Northern prejudice against slaves, please be aware that free Northern states deprived blacks living amongst them of all legal and civil rights, prevented any competition by black labor, and, in the case of Lincoln’s home state of Illinois, banned blacks from settling in the state altogether. Only some 2% of Northerners belonged to the abolitionist societies, which in many cases seemed much more interested in punishing the whole South for the alleged crimes of a small minority of slaveholders. Alexis de Tocqueville wrote, in Democracy In America, “The prejudice of race appears to be stronger in the states that have abolished slavery than in those where it still exists; and nowhere is it so intolerant as in those states where servitude has never been known.”

As regards slavery, please note that neither President Lincoln, nor any other Northerner ever alleged slavery as a reason for making war. Notice that, when General Beauregard’s forces at Charleston fired on Ft. Sumter, only the Deep South states, where slavery was so strongly entrenched, had seceded. The border states were struggling to achieve a peaceable reconciliation, which probably still could have been done, until Lincoln called for 75,000 troops to suppress the “rebellion”… a rebellion he had helped occasion by sending munitions to Ft. Sumter, which he knew would instigate hostile Southern reaction. He admitted as much when he wrote to Captain G.V. Fox, “You and I both anticipated that the cause of the country would be advanced by making the attempt to provision Ft. Sumter, even if it should fail; and it is no small consolation now to feel that our anticipation is justified by the result.”

So why did Lincoln make war? Let the architect and conductor of the United States war effort speak for himself. In his First Inaugural Address, made after the Deep South states had already seceded, Lincoln announced, “I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.” This was perfectly in line with the Republican party platform in 1860, which, though it included many Abolitionists, was not an Abolitionist party, because extreme abolitionism was anathema to most Northerners. Eugene Berwanrger wrote in The Frontier Against Slavery, “Republicans made no pretense of being concerned with the fate of the Negro and insisted that theirs was a party of white labor. By introducing a note of white supremacy, they hoped to win the votes of the Negrophobes and the anti-abolitionists who were opposed to the extension of slavery.”

Lincoln even promised to strengthen the Fugitive Slave Act, which required free states to return runaway slaves to their Southern masters. Moreover, in 1862, Lincoln wrote a famous letter to the New York Tribune, whose editor was famous Abolitionist Horace Greeley, “My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union.” This, then, explains the Emancipation Proclamation, and every other war measure taken by the president. Even as late as the Hampton Roads peace conference of February 1865, Lincoln spoke of allowing the Southern states back into the union with slavery still intact. The South refused. They wanted no part of Lincoln’s emerging dictatorship. Lincoln’s primary object was to establish the supremacy of the National government over the State governments. In this, he was terribly effectual, as Constitutional rights in the North crumbled under a harsh war administration, and the South was brought into subjection through force of arms.

So then, we have a reason for war. Lincoln believed the National government was supreme over the State governments, and the states must submit to Washington in everything. This the Southern states would not submit to, not over slavery, or any other issue. They wanted no war. As President Jefferson Davis said, “Our true policy is peace.” They even refused to re-enter the union when a proposed constitutional amendment to establish permanent protection for the institution of slavery, wherever it existed, was passed by the House of Representatives, and endorsed by Abraham Lincoln in his Inaugural Address of January, 1860. This was the original 13th Amendment. Perhaps I will write an article about it at a future date. Just think how different the Constitution, and our history would be if that particular amendment was enshrined in law. And remember who we would have to thank for the said amendment-the Great Emancipator, Abraham Lincoln.

So, in summation, while slavery was tangential to the Civil War, it was NOT the reason for the war.

Liberty Beat
The CIA's 'Black Sites'
What are we going to do with the secret prisoners who cannot be tried in our courts?

by Nat Hentoff
February 24th, 2006 4:29 PM

illustration: Mirko Ilic
The CIA's top counterterrorism official [Robert Grenier] was fired last week because he opposed detaining Al Qaeda suspects in secret prisons abroad, sending them to other countries for interrogation, and using forms of torture such as "waterboarding," [making a prisoner believe he is about to be drowned] intelligence sources have claimed. The Sunday Times, London, February 12
For more than three years, I've been reporting on what has been increasingly, but fragmentarily, revealed about secret CIA prisons around the world. On September 17, 2001, the president, in a classified order, gave the CIA these "special powers" (as Attorney General Alberto Gonzales agreed during his confirmation hearings).

These "black sites"—as they are called in CIA, White House, and Justice Department files— escaped attempted congressional oversight until December 2005. But in the National Defense Authorization Act, the Senate finally called for regular reports on where those prisons are, what plans there are for the ultimate release of their prisoners, and "a description of the interrogation procedures used." Ted Kennedy and John Kerry introduced the resolution.

A similar December requirement was passed by the House (226 to 187) in a nonbinding resolution to urge the House and Senate negotiators to shine a shaft of sunlight on these "dark sites" in the final National Defense Authorization Act for 2006. But secretly, both the Senate and House resolutions were killed by the conference committee.

http://villagevoice.com/news/0609,hentoff,72320,6.html

Poll. This is one of those "trick" ones that inserts "changed your opinion" or some such in it. Just ignore that. But do vote about Smirky and Katrina and lying and stuff like that:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/

Very very interesting, Garry. Meaty. It verifies my view that history is largely fiction. A lot to think about. Thanks.

Well, thanks JM, but I must apologize for the length of that post and for my knee-jerk reaction of posting it.

We Southern folk DO know why the war was fought and we resent every attempt to change the facts to make it look like we wanted to keep slaves. BOTH SIDES had slaves and slavery wasn't the cause of the war.

Shy,

I can't find the poll about Bush and Katrina Video. Did they move it I wonder, take it off or am I looking right at it and not seeing it.

I'll check tomorrow.

He is such a liar and getting worse everday, every minute. I hope his lying words in the video gets spread far and wide. The hypocrite!

Thank you for the articles Garry and WV.

With the combination of the two articles, it made me think back over 34 years of being an astrologer, and the many other astrologers I have met along the way.

Without question the majority are very moral and spiritual people. You cannot study astrology without being led into other ancient practices, and the study of religions...which led me to realize why the majority of astrologers, with very very few exceptions, tend to be of a Liberal persuasion. These studies have led them to strong beliefs - to understand with great depth the difference between right and wrong. Karma and Dharma, and the desire not to accrue additional karma.

And then it occurred to me that Liberals are derisively referred to as "bleeding hearts" by the political opposition because they are concerned with their fellow man, the sick, the poor, the old, the weak, the environment, all of those things that are morally right but unprofitable in material terms. No wonder most astrologers are left leaning.

Yet those labeled Conservatives, who are mired in the material, care nothing for their fellow man, the poor, the old, the environment, or the weak- view them with contempt rather than empathy- and would leave them to drown or expire where they stand.

The conclusion one has to reach is those that adhere to the Judeo-Christian principle are considered weak by those who adhere to the demon of avarice and injustice, Mammon.

In the astrological community very very few of the Mammon leaners, the "hard hearted, hard right" seem to exist. Fortunately few exist for they are not fit to counsel others on paths to be taken. IMHO.

Garry, thanks for your post re the roses. For a year or so now I've felt it is tremendously important for me to garden--that is, important as one reaction to the political situation. Isn't logical, but strongly intuitive.

Re the Civil War or as I was taught to call it, The War Between the States, I think some of the individuals in the war really did fight against slavery. Like the abolitionist officers portrayed in the film, Glory. Many more fought to preserve the Union. And my family said it was about being dictated to and also about whether cotton was sold to the British or to Yankee mills.

great continuing comments all.
It seems the bin laden chatter has begun again - with the polls are so low, and georgie is visiting the neighborhood, I wonder whether we'll suddenly 'capture or kill' him?

I WILL RESTATE THE MISSION OF THIS SITE. IT IS A SITE FOR DIALOGUE NOT FOR DEBATE. IF YOU WISH TO DEBATE OR TO "BAIT" OTHER READERS AND POSTERS I WOULD SUGGEST RESEARCHING ANOTHER SITE. I REMOVED THE ARTICLE BY MU AND WILL CONTINUE TO REMOVE ARTICLES WRITTEN SOLELY TO ANTAGONIZE, IT ISN'T PRODUCTIVE.

Where Are the Good Americans?

By JEREMY BRECHER & BRENDAN SMITH

Anyone who sees the photographs of the victims of the Nazi concentration camps must wonder how human beings could ever have allowed such things to happen. They must wonder how people of good will could have stood by while their government committed atrocities in their name. In the wake of that nightmarish era, people often asked, "Where were the good Germans?"

http://informationclearinghouse.info/article12123.htm

The freeps are all over the web lately, must've gotten their script sheets and marching orders. What a pathetic way to earn a living. Goes to show that things are looking hairy with the Chimp looking more and more shoddy every day. I'll repeat that all the hotair blowhardassness is a cover for bullies who wake up every day and know, maybe unconciously, what losers they really are.

Forgot to say, here is the link for the House Democrats report on the Bush Administration lying us into war and reasons for the Pretender's impeachment.

This link will take you to a page that gives you a choice between the whole report in html (my computer doesn't have enough memory for that) or to a list of pdf. files that are cleverly arranged by chapter. So I have been downloading a pdf. file, printing or saving it on disc or other memory device and then deleting it before downloading the next pdf file.

You techno-gurus among us--stop laughing!

Anyhow, here is the link

http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democrats/

Beverly, their main article up right now is "Dire Warnings." "Live Vote" is part of the stuff you can elect to view under "Dire Warnings". I can't take you/don't know how to the poll itself because I did vote and if I gave you the address of that page you'd see the results. So sorry.

Thanks Sally.....

moving mu paddies...cool!

More letter in The Hindu re Bush's visit...

http://www.hindu.com/2006/03/02/stories/2006030203301001.htm

Re the AP report....the tape of the chimp being briefed 4 days BEFOE Katrina hit....I was going to my mom's resthome about 3:15 pm PDT and heard Ed Shultz say it had just been broken....the news that this tape had been obtained by the AP....and he was able to get Barbara Boxer on, read the press release, and talk with Boxer. Shultz was APOPLEXTIC. Boxer just sounded stunned and disbelieving....and didn't want to make a committed statement until she saw the tape.

I have been getting my new computer set up and haven't watched the news....hopefully it is all over the place...here it is:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/03/01.html#a7356

When I get back to this site, hopefully without any trouble...will check in again. Later!

Poll in Joplin MO (!!) paper: Should Congress make a law to overrule ports deal?
http://www.joplinglobe.com/

Go, you folks in JoMo!

veeerrry interesting article by Dan Furst.
Seems he is also into the historical pov with a 'follow the money' perspective. http://hermes3.net/mar106.htm

On the station of Mercury Rx - I seem to be having
a philosophical mind bent.

Someone asked above " where are all the good Germans" as in " Where are all the good Americans"

It occurs to me all the good Americans are on the internet voicing their opposition - and we have become such a force, all over the internet, that to know how the "muricans" feel and think, the news media now checks on internet opinions. The internet has become the voice of the people - thru
the polls and through our writings. (No wonder they want to shut it down)

And the voice of the people is disgusted with this administration and the Manchurian Candidate.

While Bush's approval as resident is down to 34%,
apparently that same CBS poll reported that his
personal approval, "the guy is so likable " approval, is down even more , somewhere between 19 and 29%. It seems "muricans" have woken up.

I suspect one more fiasco will bring him before the impeachment committee.

Meanwhile, the renewal of the Patriot Laws has passed, with who knows what other additional restrictions to freedom have been thrown in while
no one was looking.

Congress speaks out of both sides of its mouth: the public side for consumption by the voting tv audience and the underhanded sneaky side in the back rooms of the Capitol.

If they were so concerned with his becoming the dictator, why did they rubber stamp
these violations of the Bill of Rights?

Oh, baloney & hogwash to that rt wring nattering above. Saturn aspects every dang thing in my chart except Sun & THOSE are in mutual reception. Powerful mars, too. And I STILL detest/loathe/abhor/throw-up at torture. And I'm far from the only one.

To the astro-torture lovers everywhere, may all the misery they seek to dish out to others, awa the inane/insane supremacist nattering, be returned to them many fold, pressed down & running over.

How THAT for saturn/mars! ;O)

Oh... the natterer's gone. Cool! ;O)

Pallas1800,

I agree with you so much. Have you noticed that Neptune and Pluto are making hard aspects in Bush's natal chart. If Bush has any tendency to mental illness, addiction(including religion), or a sense of dillusion, it will express itself now.

I think that Bush is so "out of it" that he doesn't know what the hell is going on. I heard on Airamerica today that people close to Bush didn't want tell him about the broken levies in NOLA during Katrina for two days.

WACKO!!!

Why Intellectual Dishonesty is Hurting Astrology Today

9:45 PM 9/19/05 Mon

In light of my recent essays regarding the very real and palpable Left leaning view extant in the American Astrology Community today, and noting that my essays in this regard have raised a bit of a ruckus, I'd like to take things a step further in this essay, why I posit that intellectual dishonesty is hurting Astrology today.

There are several key points/themes that I would like to address myself to, that are often brought up in various astrological circles, and that I feel are at best spurious if not out and out dishonest. They are as follows:

1. Wanting no discussion about anything "other than Astrology"

2. Affirmative Action Astrology (and I'll explain exactly what I mean in a sec)

3. Taking a "No-Judgement" view with Astrology

4. Taking a so-called intellectual/academic approach in Astrology groups and forums (what I called Pseudo-Intellectualism)

5. Claiming to want Astrology to be more relevant to the general public

Let's address these points one by one.

Wanting No Discussion About Anything "Other than Astrology"
If you're part of an online community of astrologers and the like, you're bound to hear this partyline. Sometimes, there is a certain spin put on it ("this is a forum for learning astrological principles, etc."), but what is really meant by this is that whoever is calling the shots simply doesn't want to deal with the implications of that which was brought up. This can be for a variety of reasons, but usually it's due to what I call the "selling soapsuds" quotient. By that I mean, that oftentimes, many of these folks who own forums and the like use these as vehicles to peddle their wares and/or services, so if you mention something that might piss some or all of their potential clientele off (with, say, wanting to know the astrological implications of Class or Race, etc.), off with your head. As for the whole "learning" line, well, let's just look at it this way: in this age of Internet search engines, easy availabilty of computers and widespread access to astrology books and information from here to next Sunday, anyone who wants to learn the rudiments (or finer points, as the case may be) of Astrology can do so, often for FREE. And if neither the profit motive nor the so-called interest in learning motive doesn't do the trick, there maybe some other esoteric (or egocentric) reason given. What such folks need to do is be very upfront about the fact that they arean't really interested in dealing with, say, the Career/Vocational situation in ALL its dimensions, but instead are just interested in hawking their wares on "how-to" see a doctor, lawyer, Indian Chief in the chart. Or that they are in reality a Leftist in astrological drag, and so get all hot and bothered when someone asks hard astrological questions on the political front or presents something astrologically relevant on a current and hotly charged topic such as abortion. Chalk it up to all my years in Sales, or maybe just a liftime of growing up in the Hood, but nothing is worse than someone trying to get over by playing a bad game of Three Card Monty.

Affirmative Action Astrology
By this I mean, the idea or notion that ALL Astrology (and by extension, astrologers) is equal; even more to the point, the idea that all astrologers are equal, and that we must respect all points of view even if some don't make any damn sense at all (and we all know it). NOT!!! Take for example, the Solar Return. This is a method that has been around for ever, and even though folks who've worked with Astrology for eons know that a clear use of Transits trumps a Solar Return any day of the week, still we have to put up with this notion that Solar Returns are as viable a method as Transits. Ugh. The reality is that there are some astrologers that are good, others great, and a whole lot that just suck. But of course, you can't say that nowadays, because "astrology isn't supposed to be competitive". Of course, those who espouse such a view are either ignorant of Astrology's past (where guys like Lilly jockeyed for position all the time against other well known astrologers) OR they're being intellectually dishonest. It's one thing to simply and clearly state your view, that as a member of the Astrological Left, you don't think there is a such thing as a good or bad astrologer, or that some astrological systems and ideas just don't work as well as others; but to try to present them as Manna from Heaven is really a stretch at best, downright disengenuous at worst.

Taking A "No-Judgement" View With Astrology
Oh, I love this one. That's because it's yet another example, astrologically expressed, of the Left. If you're on the Left, you're in essence a Relativist - "eveything's relative", which translates into, everything's the same, which translates into, nothing is better or worse than something else, nothing is good or bad...and in astro-counseling terms, you simply cannot make a judgement about someone's behavior because, well...nothing's good or bad, it just is - right? Rubbish. Astrology's history, East and West alike, are full of examples where the astrologer clearly explained where the native went in one direction when he/she should have gone in the other and so on. If you're an astrologer that simply sees no inherent difficulty with Outer Planets, for example, then I'm pretty sure you're a "no value judgement" astrologer. What's really interesting about such folks though, is that their value judgemental hackles suddenly raise to the rafters when someone such as myself comes along - I guess the no judgement approach only goes but so far.

Taking A So-Called Intellectual/Academic Approach in Astrology Groups and Forums
This is kind of a reiteration of my first counterpoint above, because those who claim that they want a more academic approach to Astrology often does so with the "no discussion other than astrology" canard. These folks wouldn't know academics if it pistol-whipped them in broad daylight. I say that because one of the hallmarks of the Academy is the free and open Debate of Ideas - and many who espouse such a view want anything but. I like to think of them as astrologers with a Soviet twist, you know, Astrological Totalitarianism. Yeah, yeah, I know, there's Kepler and there's the ACVA, and there's this and there's that group and so-and-so. Okay. But just you try to bring up some of the points I've made in previous essays, and you'll see what I mean (and this has happened with regard to some of my colleagues who scoffed at my thoughts in this regard; they're starting to wear yolks on the grill now). Pseudo-Intellectualism is rife in the Astrological Community today.

Claiming to Want Astrology to be More Relevant to the General Public
On its face, along with the posturing of many astrologers nowadays, this line above almost sounds credible; then you take a look around and you don't see ANY of the same folks who want to be relevant to the public speak to anything that actually means something to that same public. Take the Hurricance Katrina aftermath - where are astrologers on that one, especially the whole range of issues with respect to the Black and Poor? Okay, maybe that one's too heavy. What about the deal with Judge John Roberts? Nada. Or Cindy Sheehan? MIA. Everybody talked about Natalie Holloway, but no one said a word about Latoyia Figueroa - even though pregnant women get killed by their hubbies/boyfriends all the time. Wassup wit dat??? See my point? If you really want to be regarded by the public, you have to be willing to deal with the issues and topics and things that are IMPORTANT TO THEM. No once cares much about a bunch of astrological mumbo-jumbo that even died in the wool astrology wonks like me yawn at. That's why I spend so much time dealing with things in a public intellectual sort of way rather than tying all my time up dealing with insider baseball so to speak.

I posit that until astrologers get real honest with themselves and each other, more and more people will get turned off to it, NOT because of the Religious Right, NOT because of folks being scared by the "occult" nature of it, but because so many astrologers keep falling further and further away from where the bulk of humanity is, which is the Real World.

That's it.

Salaam,
Mu

I agree with you .
http://www.gugu.pl/ wyszukiwarka cenowa
http://www.agdrtv.com/, wow ale nie waw
http://www.agdrtv.com/notebooki/ , camisony nexoo
http://www.lg.agdrtv.com/ , który nie ten lienergee
http://www.toshiba.agdrtv.com/ laptop ale ktomenistecoon
http://www.sony.agdrtv.com/ , a gdzie nim
http://www.samsung.agdrtv.com/ , tam ale nie tu
http://www.siemens.agdrtv.com/ niemiecka marka lae takimotoe
http://www.panasonic.agdrtv.com/ , kiedy kolwiek
http://www.agdrtv.com/kamery_cyfrowe/ , sony whirlpool
http://www.gugu.pl/5/ wózki dziecięce
http://www.agdrtv.com/telewizory_lcd/ , telewizory plazmowe jvc
http://www.agdrtv.com/telewizory_plazmowe/ , hoover pralki
http://www.agdrtv.com/pralki/ , zmywarki promocje
http://www.agdrtv.com/lodowki/ , kuchnie amica
http://www.hp.agdrtv.com/ , a gdzie nim
http://www.eeeby.pl/ wyszukiwarka cenowa
http://www.camcoo.com/ lcd dvd i inne
http://www.gugu.pl/8/ dla dziecka foteliki
http://www.kancelaria.prawna.info/ oki doki mocki pocki
http://www.gugu.pl/5/ wózki dziecięce
http://www.acer.agdrtv.com/ acer notebooki
http://www.fujitsu-siemens.agdrtv.com/ sklep fujitsu siemens laptopy
http://www.gugu.pl/12/ łóżeczka dla dzieci
http://www.whirlpool.agdrtv.com/ pralki i piekarniki whirlpool
http://www.camcoo.net/ camcoo katalogo stonico

http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/anti/antivirus/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/anti/antivirus_and_gratuit/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/anti/antivirus_francais/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/anti/antivirus-a-telecharger/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/anti/antivirus-en-ligne/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/anti/antivirus-gratuit/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/anti/antivirus-norton/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/anti/avg/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/anti/bitdefender/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/anti/logiciel_antivirus/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/anti/logiciels-antivirus/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/anti/norton-2005/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/anti/norton-2006/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/anti/norton-antivirus/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/anti/norton-antivirus-2005/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/anti/norton-antivirus-2006/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/anti/norton-internet-security/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/anti/telecharger_antivirus/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/anti/telecharger_norton_antivirus/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/anti/telecharger-antivirus/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/jeux/jeu_flash/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/jeux/jeu_gratuit/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/jeux/jeu_online/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/jeux/jeu_pc/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/jeux/jeux/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/jeux/jeux_flash/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/jeux/jeux_fr/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/jeux/jeux_pc/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/jeux/jeux_video/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/jeux/jeux-a-telecharger/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/jeux/telechargement_sims_2/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/jeux/telechargement-jeu/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/jeux/telechargement-jeu-gratuit/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/jeux/telechargement-jeux/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/jeux/telechargement-sims-2/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/jeux/telecharger_jeu/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/jeux/telecharger_jeux/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/jeux/telecharger_jeux_pc/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/jeux/telecharger-jeux-gratuitement/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/jeux/telecharger-les-sims_2/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/jeux/telecharger-les-sims-2/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/jeux/telecharger-sims-2/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/chanson-a-telecharger/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/divx-gratuit/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/download_mp3/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/film-a-telecharger/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/film-divx/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/film-gratuit/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/films/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/films-gratuit/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/films-telecharger/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/film-telecharger/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/logiciel-mp3/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/logiciels-mp3/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/mp3/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/mp3_download/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/mp3_music/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/mp3-gratuit/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/mp3-telecharger/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/musique/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/musique-a-telecharger/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/musique-francaise/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/musique-gratuite/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/telechargement_gratuit_mp3/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/telechargement_mp3/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/telechargement_music/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/telechargement_musique/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/telechargement-film/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/telechargement-film-cinema/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/telechargement-films/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/telechargement-musique/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/telechargements_film/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/telechargements_mp3/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/telechargements_video/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/telecharger_cd/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/telecharger_chanson/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/telecharger_film/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/telecharger_film_gratuit/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/telecharger_mp3/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/telecharger_musique/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/telecharger-cd/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/telecharger-chanson/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/telecharger-divx/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/telecharger-dvd/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/telecharger-film/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/telecharger-film-divx/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/telecharger-films/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/telecharger-films-gratuit/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/telecharger-mp3/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/telecharger-mp3-gratuit/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/telecharger-mp3-gratuitement/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/telecharger-music-mp3/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/telecharger-musique/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/video_a_telecharger/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/mp3/video-gratuit/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/msn/messenger/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/msn/messenger_8/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/msn/messenger_8_0/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/msn/messenger-7_5/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/msn/messenger-75/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/msn/msn-7_5/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/msn/msn-7_5-telecharger/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/msn/msn-75-telecharger/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/msn/msn-8/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/msn/msn-8_0/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/msn/msn-messenger7_5/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/msn/msn-messenger-7_5/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/msn/msn-messenger-7_5-telecharger/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/msn/msn-messenger-75-telecharger/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/msn/msn-plus/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/msn/telechargement_msn_7_5/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/msn/telechargement_msn_plus/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/msn/telechargements_msn/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/msn/telechargements_msn_7_5/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/msn/telecharger_msn_7_5/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/msn/telecharger_msn_messenger_7_5/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/msn/telecharger-emoticone/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/msn/telecharger-messenger/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/msn/telecharger-messenger-7_5/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/msn/telecharger-msn/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/msn/telecharger-msn-7_5/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/msn/telecharger-msn-75/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/msn/telecharger-msn-8_0/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/msn/telecharger-msn-gratuit/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/msn/telecharger-msn-gratuitement/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/msn/telecharger-msn-mesenger/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/msn/telecharger-msn-messenger-7_5/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/msn/telecharger-msn-plus/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/edonkey/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/emule/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/emule-gratuit/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/kazaa/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/kazaa-gratuit/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/kazaa-telecharger/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/logiciel/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/logiciel_mp3/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/logiciel_musique/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/logiciel-antivirus/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/logiciel-gratuit/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/logiciels_mp3/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/logiciels_musique/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/logiciels_telecharger/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/nero-6/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/nero-7/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/nero-burning/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/telechargement_kazaa/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/telechargement-emule-gratuit/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/telechargements_gratuit/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/telechargements_kazaa/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/telechargements_logiciel/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/telechargements_nero/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/telechargements_shareaza/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/telecharger/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/telecharger-clone-cd/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/telecharger-codec/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/telecharger-emule/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/telecharger-emule-gratuit/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/telecharger-fr/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/telecharger-kazaa/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/telecharger-kazaa-en-francais/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/telecharger-kazaa-gratuit/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/telecharger-kazaa-gratuitement/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/telecharger-kazaa-lite/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/telecharger-nero/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/telecharger-nero-6/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/telecharger-nero-gratuit/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/telecharger-nero-gratuitement/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/telecharger-shareaza/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/telecharger-shareaza-gratuit/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/telecharger-shareaza-gratuitement/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/telecharger-skype/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/telecharger-winamp/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/telecharger-winzip/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/telecharger-winzip-gratuit/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/tele/telecharger-yahoo-messenger/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/vidx/film-porno/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/vidx/film-sexe/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/vidx/film-x/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/vidx/sexe-video/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/vidx/sexe-videos/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/vidx/telechargement_film_x/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/vidx/telechargement_film_x_gratuit/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/vidx/telechargement_porno_gratuit/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/vidx/telechargement_video_x/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/vidx/telechargement-film-x/
| http://ESCONDIDOPOPWARNER.COM/vidx/telecharger-video-x/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/AMATEUR/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/amateur-couple/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/amateur-gay/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/amateur-gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/amateur-libertin/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/amateur-nu/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/amateur-porno/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/amateur-sex/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/amateur-sexe/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/amateur-video/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/amateur-webcam/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/amateur-x/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/amatrice-sexe/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/amerique-latine/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/ANAL/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/anal-destruction/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/anal-dildo/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/anal-fist/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/anal-fisting/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/anal-gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/anal-sex/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/ANIME/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/asiatique/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/asiatique-nu/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/baise-black/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/bear-gay/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/beau-sein/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/beaute-femme/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/belle-bite/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/belle-black/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/belle-chatte/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/belle-femme/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/belle-femme-nu/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/belle-fille/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/belle-poitrine/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/belle-salope/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/beurette-salope/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/beur-gay/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/bite-au-cul/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/bite-black/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/bite-cheval/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/bite-gay/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/black-anal/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/black-and-white/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/black-cock/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/black-decker/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/black-dick/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/black-gay/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/black-girl/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/black-girls/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/black-nu/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/black-porn/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/black-porno/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/black-pussy/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/black-sex/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/black-sexe/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/black-sexy/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/blacks-on-blonde/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/black-teen/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/black-teens/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/black-tits/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/black-women/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/blog-cul/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/blog-erotique/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/blog-gay/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/blog-sexe/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/blonde-salope/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/BONDAGE/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/BOTTE/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/botte-femme/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/bukkake/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/chat_lesbienne/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/chat-coquin/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/chat-gay/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/chat-gay-gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/chat-lesbienne/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/chat-pour-jeune/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/chat-sexe/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/chat-sexe-gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/chat-webcam/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/COQUIN/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/coquin-sexy/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/couple-amateur/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/couple-coquin/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/CUL/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/cul-amateur/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/cul-black/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/cul-de-femme/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/cul-gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/cul-nu/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/defloration/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/defonce-anal/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/dessiner-mangas/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/DESSOUS/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/dessous-sexy/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/double-anal/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/double-penetration/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/dvd-gay/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/dvd-mangas/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/dvd-porno/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/dvd-x/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/echange-de-jeune/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/ejac/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/ejac-facial/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/ejac-feminine/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/enorme-bite/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/enorme-sein/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/entre-fille/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/EROTIQUE/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/erotique-gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/exhib-amateur/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/exhibition-amateur/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/extrait-video-porno/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/extrait-video-sexe/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/extrait-video-sexe-gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/FACIALE/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/facialed/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/fellation-gay/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/FEMME/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/femme-asiatique/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/femme-black/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/femme-chaude/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/femme-cochon/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/femme-coquin/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/femme-enceinte/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/femme-enceinte-nu/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/femme-erotique/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/femme-grosse/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/femme-gros-sein/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/femme-mature/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/femme-mure/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/femme-mure-nu/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/femme-noire/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/femme-noire-nu/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/FEMME-NU/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/femme-nu-gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/femme-nu-gratuite/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/femme-salope/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/femme-sex/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/femme-sexe/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/femme-sexy/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/fetiche/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/fetichisme/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/fetichisme-collant/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/fetichisme-des-pieds/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/fetichisme-pied/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/FILLE/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/fille-a-poil/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/fille-arabe/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/fille-au-pair/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/fille-chaude/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/fille-facile/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/fille-plage/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/fille-vierge/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/film-amateur/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/film-de-cul/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/film-erotique/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/film-gay/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/film-porno/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/film-pornographique/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/film-porno-gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/films-de-culs/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/films-erotiques/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/film-sex/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/film-sexe/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/film-sexe-gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/films-gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/films-porno/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/films-pornographiques/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/films-porno-gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/films-x/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/films-x-gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/film-x/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/film-x-amateur/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/film-x-a-telecharger/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/film-x-gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/film-xxx/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/first-anal/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/fist_anal/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/forte-poitrine/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/france-coquin/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/france-coquine/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/free-gay-pics/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/free-hentai/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/free-porn/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/free-porn-movies/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/free-porn-pictures/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/free-porn-video/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/free-sexe/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/free-xxx/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/galerie-gay/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/galerie-sexe/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/garcon-nue/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/GAY/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/gay-amateur/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/gay-anal/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/gay-arabe/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/gay-bear/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/gay-beur/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/gay-black/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/gay-boys/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/gay-carangi/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/gay-chat/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/gay-cum/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/gay-escorte/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/gay-fr/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/gay-france/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/GAY-FREE/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/gay-galerie/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/01/gay-hard/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/POMPE/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/PORN/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/porn-attitude/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/porno-amateur/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/porno-amateur-gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/porno-asiatique/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/porno-black/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/porno-film/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/porno-gay/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/porno-gay-gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/pornographie/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/pornographie-gratuite/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/porno-mature/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/porno-sexe/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/porno-video/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/porno-xxx/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/pornstar/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/porn-star/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/portail-du-sexe/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/position-sexe/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/prenom-anime/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/prenom-fille/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/prenom-garcon/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/punition/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/rencontre-coquin/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/rencontre-cul/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/rencontre-erotique/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/rencontre-femme/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/rencontre-femme-mariee/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/rencontre-femme-mure/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/rencontre-fille/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/rencontre-gay/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/rencontre-lesbienne/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/rencontre-sexe/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/rencontre-sexe-gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/rencontre-transsexuelle/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/rencontre-webcam/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/salope-arabe/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/salope-en-chaleur/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/salope-gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/salope-gratuite/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/salope-mature/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/SEIN/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sein-de-france/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sein-enorme/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sein-gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sein-nu/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sex-amateur/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sex-amateur-gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sex-anal/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sex-asiatique/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sex-black/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/SEXE/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe_gay_gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-amateur/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-amateur-gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-anal/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-and-gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-arabe/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-asiatique/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-beurette/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-black/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-en-direct/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-extreme/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-feminin/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-femme/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-fr/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-free/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-gaulois/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/SEXE-GAY/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-gratos/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-gratui/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-gratuis/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-gratuit-photo/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-gratuit-video/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-hard/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-hardcore/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-hard-gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-homme/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-interracial/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-lesbienne/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-live/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-mangas/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-maroc/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-masculin/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-mature/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-photo/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-poilu/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-porno/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-rase/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-rencontre/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-video/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-video-gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-video-gratuite/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-videos/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-vieille/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-webcam/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexe-xxx/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sex-femme/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/SEX-GAY/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sex-mangas/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sex-mature/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sex-video/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sex-videos/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sex-webcam/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sex-xxx/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexy-black/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexy-lingerie/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexy-mangas/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/sexy-mature/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/super-voyeur/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/teen-amateur/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/teen-porn/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/telechargement_film_porno/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/telechargement_film_x/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/telechargement_film_x_gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/telechargement_porno_gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/telechargement_video_x/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/telechargement-film-x/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/telechargements_film_x_gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/telechargements_porno_gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/telecharger-film-x/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/telecharger-video-x/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/teton/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/texte-erotique/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/transsexuelle/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/travesti-amateur/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/triple-penetration/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-amateur/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-amateur-gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-amateur-gratuite/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-amateur-x/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-chat/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-coquin/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-cul/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-cul-gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-de-cul/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-de-cul-gratuite/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-de-sexe-a-telecharger/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-erotique/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-erotique-gratuite/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-gay/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-gay-gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-gay-gratuite/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-gratuite-gay/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-gratuite-sexe/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-hard/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-hentai/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-hentai-gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-lesbienne/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-lesbienne-gratuite/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-mature/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-porno/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-porno-amateur/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-porno-a-telecharger/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-porno-gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-porno-gratuite/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-porno-telecharger/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-salope/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/videos-amateur/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/videos-culs/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/videos-de-culs/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/videos-erotiques/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-sex/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-sexe/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-sexe-amateur/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-sexe-gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-sexe-gratuite/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-sex-gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-sexy/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/videos-gay/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/videos-gay-gratuites/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/videos-gratuites-sexe/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/videos-hard/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/videos-lesbiennes/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/videos-porno/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/videos-porno-gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/videos-porno-gratuites/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/videos-sex/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/videos-sexe/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/videos-sexe-gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/videos-sexe-gratuites/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/videos-sex-gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/videos-sexy/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/videos-x/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/videos-x-gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/videos-x-gratuites/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/videos-xxx/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-telecharger/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-voyeur/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-x/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-x-amateur/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-x-a-telecharger/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-x-gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-x-gratuite/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-xxx/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-xxx-gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/video-xxx-gratuite/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/VOYEUR/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/voyeur-amateur/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/voyeur-beach/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/voyeur-france/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/voyeur-gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/voyeur-plage/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/voyeur-sex/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/voyeur-web/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/webcam-amateur/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/web-cam-amateur/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/webcam-direct/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/02/webcam-gay/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/gay-marie-carangi/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/gay-men/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/gay-muscle/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/GAY-NU/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/gay-paris/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/gay-photo/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/gay-pics/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/gay-porn/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/gay-rencontre/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/GAY-SEX/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/GAY-SEXE/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/gay-site-groups_msn/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/gay-video/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/gay-xxx/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/gratuit-sexe/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/gros-bite/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/gros-cul/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/gros-nichon/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/gros-penis/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/grosse-bite/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/grosse-bite-gay/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/grosse-black/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/grosse-chatte/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/grosse-femme/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/grosse-femme-nu/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/gros-sein/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/gros-sein-gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/gros-sein-naturel/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/grosse-mature/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/grosse-poitrine/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/grosse-salope/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/gros-sexe/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/grossiste-lingerie/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/gros-teton/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/HARDCORE/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/hardcore_party/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/hard-gay/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/hard-sexe/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/HENTAI/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/hentai-free/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/hentai-gratuit/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/hentai-hard/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/hentai-video/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/hentai-x/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/histoire-coquin/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/histoire-de-cul/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/histoire-de-sexe/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/histoire-erotique/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/histoire-erotique-gratuite/
| http://EWBLAW.COM/03/histoire-gay/
| <a href="http://EWBLAW.COM/

| http://hometown.aol.de/heryu89/telechargement_logiciels.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/heryu89/telechargement_logiciels_gratuit.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/heryu89/telechargement_nero.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/heryu89/telechargement_psp.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/heryu89/telechargement_shareaza.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/heryu89/telechargement_winzip.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/heryu89/telechargements.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/heryu89/telechargements_codec.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/heryu89/telechargements_e_mule.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/heryu89/telechargements_emule_gratuit.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/heryu89/telechargements_gratuit.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/heryu89/telechargements_gratuit_emule.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/heryu89/telechargements_gratuit_logiciel.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/heryu89/telechargements_kazaa.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/heryu89/telechargements_logiciel.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/heryu89/telechargements_logiciel_gratuit.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/heryu89/telechargements_nero.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/heryu89/telechargements_shareaza.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/heryu89/telecharger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/heryu89/telecharger__com.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/heryu89/telecharger_acrobat.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/heryu89/telecharger_acrobat_reader.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/heryu89/telecharger_clone_cd.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/heryu89/telecharger_codec.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/heryu89/telecharger_codec_divx.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/heryu89/telecharger_codec_gratuit.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/heryu89/telecharger_com.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/heryu89/telecharger_driver.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/heryu89/telecharger_e_mule.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/heryu89/telecharger_e_mule_gratuit.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hfshdurw/
| http://hometown.aol.de/hjhhjsd/
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkdlskf/
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/achat_antivirus.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/anti_spyware.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/anti_spyware_gratuit.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/anti_virus_software.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/antivirus.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/jeux_action.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/jeux_adulte.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/jeux_aventure.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/jeux_barbie.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/jeux_d_avion_a_telecharger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/jeux_d_echec_a_telecharger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/jeux_de_billard_a_telecharger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/jeux_de_carte.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/jeux_de_carte_a_telecharger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/jeux_de_voiture.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/jeux_de_voiture_gratuit.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/jeux_en_ligne.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/jeux_enfant.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/jeux_erotique.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/jeux_flash.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/jeux_flash_a_telecharger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/jeux_fr.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/jeux_gratiut_a_telecharger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/jeux_gratuis_a_telecharger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/jeux_gratuit.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/jeux_gratuit_a_telecharger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/jeux_gratuit_en_ligne.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/jeux_online.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/jeux_pc.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/jeux_pc_a_telecharger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/jeux_pc_a_telecharger_gratuit.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/jeux_pc_a_telecharger_gratuitement.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/jeux_pc_gratuit_a_telecharger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/jeux_pc_telecharger_gratuitement.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/jeux_pokemon_a_telecharger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/jeux_pour_enfant_a_telecharger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/jeux_sexe.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/jeux_sexy.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/jeux_solitaire.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/jeux_telecharger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/jeux_video.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/jeux_video_a_telecharger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/jeux_video_a_telecharger_gratuitement.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/jeux_video_com.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/jeux_video_gratuit.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/jeux_video_gratuit_a_telecharger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/jeux_video_pc.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/rom.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/rom_game_boy_advance.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/rom_nintendo_64.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/sims_2_telechargement.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/sims_2_telecharger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/telechargement_de_jeu_video.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/telechargement_jeu.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/telechargement_jeu_gratuit.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/telechargement_jeux.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/telechargement_sims_2.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/telecharger_des_jeu_gratuitement.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/telecharger_emulateur.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/telecharger_gratuit_jeu.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/telecharger_jeu.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/telecharger_jeu_complet.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/telecharger_jeu_flash.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/telecharger_jeu_gratuit.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/telecharger_jeu_gratuitement.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/telecharger_jeu_pc.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/telecharger_jeu_pc_gratuit.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/telecharger_jeu_psp.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/telecharger_jeu_sims.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/telecharger_jeu_video.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/telecharger_jeux.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/telecharger_jeux_complet.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/telecharger_jeux_gratuitement.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/telecharger_jeux_pc.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/telecharger_jeux_psp.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/telecharger_jeux_video.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/telecharger_les_sims_2.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/telecharger_les_sims_gratuit.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/telecharger_les_sims_gratuitement.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/telecharger_mario.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/telecharger_monopoly.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/telecharger_objet_sims.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/telecharger_objet_sims_2.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/telecharger_sims_2.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hkei78/video_games.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/hsakffsa/
| http://hometown.aol.de/hsfdjffks/
| http://hometown.aol.de/hshgdfg/
| http://hometown.aol.de/iasdiid/
| http://hometown.aol.de/idfopf324/
| http://hometown.aol.de/insuns0201/
| http://hometown.aol.de/isdiida/
| http://hometown.aol.de/isomnvn/
| http://hometown.aol.de/iudsfji/
| http://hometown.aol.de/jdfjkgi/
| http://hometown.aol.de/jdiad64372/
| http://hometown.aol.de/jdisa6384/
| http://hometown.aol.de/jfjsjsd/
| http://hometown.aol.de/jhdaid7384/
| http://hometown.aol.de/jksdfkf/
| http://hometown.aol.de/jksdkjkse/
| http://hometown.aol.de/jokdk7384/
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsajd3447/
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsdfuifl/
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsdjad6478/
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/antivirus_a_telecharger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/antivirus_and_gratuit.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/antivirus_avast.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/antivirus_avast_gratuit.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/antivirus_avg.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/antivirus_com.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/antivirus_comparatif.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/antivirus_download.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/antivirus_en_ligne.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/antivirus_en_ligne_gratuit.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/antivirus_firewall.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/antivirus_francais.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/antivirus_free.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/antivirus_gratis.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/antivirus_gratui.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/antivirus_gratuis.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/antivirus_gratuit.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/antivirus_gratuit_a_telecharger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/antivirus_gratuit_avast.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/antivirus_gratuit_en_ligne.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/antivirus_gratuit_francais.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/antivirus_gratuitement.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/antivirus_kaspersky.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/antivirus_mac.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/antivirus_mcafee.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/antivirus_norton.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/antivirus_online.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/antivirus_panda.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/antivirus_personal.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/antivirus_pour_scanner.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/antivirus_protection.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/antivirus_review.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/antivirus_software.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/antivirus_wanadoo.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/avast.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/avast_antivirus.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/avast_antivirus_gratuit.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/avg.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/avg_antivirus.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/bitdefender.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/comparatif_antivirus.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/firewall.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/free_antivirus.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/kaspersky_antivirus.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/logiciel_antivirus.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/logiciel_antivirus_gratuit.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/logiciels_antivirus.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/logiciels_antivirus_gratuit.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/mc_afee.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/meilleur_antivirus.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/norton.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/norton_2005.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/norton_2006.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/norton_antivirus.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/norton_antivirus_2005.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/norton_antivirus_2006.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/norton_ghost.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/norton_internet_security.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/panda_antivirus.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/panda_software.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/personal_firewall.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/protection_antivirus.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/remove_spyware.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/security_software.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/spybot.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/spyware.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/spyware_removal.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/spyware_remover.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/symantec_antivirus.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/telechargement_anti_virus.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/telechargement_anti_virus_gratuit.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/telechargement_antivirus.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/telechargement_antivirus_gratuit.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/telechargement_gratuit_antivirus.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/telechargements_anti_virus.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/telechargements_anti_virus_gratuit.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/telechargements_antivirus_gratuit.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/telecharger_antivirus.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/telecharger_antivirus_gratuit.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/telecharger_antivirus_gratuitement.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/telecharger_avast.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/telecharger_gratuitement_anti_virus.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/telecharger_norton_antivirus.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jsjh78/test_antivirus.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/adresse_msn.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/astuce_msn.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/astuce_msn_messenger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/avatar_msn.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/clean_messenger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/e_messenger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/emoticone_a_telecharger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/emoticone_msn.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/hotmail_messenger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/i_love_messenger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/installer_msn_messenger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/instant_messenger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/live_messenger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/logiciel_msn.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/logiciels_msn.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/messenger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/messenger_7.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/messenger_7_0.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/messenger_7_5.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/messenger_75.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/messenger_8.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/messenger_8_0.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/messenger_astuce.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/messenger_beta.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/messenger_fun.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/messenger_live.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/messenger_msn.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/messenger_msn_mkt_fr.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/messenger_plus.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/messenger_yahoo.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/mns_messenger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/msm_messenger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/msn.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/msn_5.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/msn_7.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/msn_7_0_telecharger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/msn_7_5.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/msn_7_5_telecharger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/msn_70.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/msn_75_telecharger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/msn_8.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/msn_8_0.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/msn_astuce.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/msn_fr.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/msn_gratuit.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/msn_hotmail.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/msn_jeu.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/msn_messenger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/msn_messenger_6.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/msn_messenger_6_2.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/msn_messenger_7.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/msn_messenger_7_0.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/msn_messenger_7_5.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/msn_messenger_7_5_telecharger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/msn_messenger_75.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/msn_messenger_75_telecharger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/msn_messenger_8.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/msn_messenger_80.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/msn_messenger_beta.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/msn_messenger_gratuit.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/msn_messenger_mac.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/msn_messenger_plus.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/msn_messenger_telecharger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/msn_messenger_version_75.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/msn_messenger_version75.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/msn_messenger_web.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/msn_messenger7_5.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/msn_plus.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/msn_plus_telecharger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/msn_telecharger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/msn_truc_astuce.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/msn_truc_et_astuce.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/msn_web.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/msn_web_messenger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/net_messenger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/quickcam_messenger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/skin-msn.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/smiley_gratuit_telecharger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/smiley_msn.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/telechargement_gratuit_msn.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/telechargement_msn_7_5.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/telechargement_msn_plus.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/telechargements_gratuit_msn.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/jud998e/telechargements_msn.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/kdiaidad/
| http://hometown.aol.de/kdsifks/
| http://hometown.aol.de/khklhoui/
| http://hometown.aol.de/kjsjksdi/
| http://hometown.aol.de/klsdjflka/
| http://hometown.aol.de/klsdkfmo/
| http://hometown.aol.de/kmnvbxcn/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ksdjf6283/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ksfodkf/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ksodfif/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ksofkf9483/
| http://hometown.aol.de/lppbcbc/
| http://hometown.aol.de/lsdfjpo/
| http://hometown.aol.de/mcbnvna/
| http://hometown.aol.de/mdjfklfl/
| http://hometown.aol.de/miesn4653/
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/dessin_tatouage.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/dessin_tatouages.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/henne.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/modele_de_tatouage.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/modele_de_tatouages.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/motif_tatouage.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/motif_tatouages.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/photo_tatouage.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/photo_tatouages.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/piercing.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/piercings.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/tatoo_tribal.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/tatou.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/tatouage.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/tatouage_bas_du_dos.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/tatouage_chinois.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/tatouage_dragon.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/tatouage_henne.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/tatouage_maori.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/tatouage_papillon.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/tatouage_polynesien.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/tatouage_tribal.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/tatouage_tribals.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/tatouages.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/tatouages_bas_du_dos.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/tatouages_chinois.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/tatouages_dragon.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/tatouages_henne.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/tatouages_maori.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/tatouages_papillon.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/tatouages_polynesien.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/tatouages_tribal.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_e_mule_gratuitement.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_emule.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_emule_gratuit.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_emule_gratuitement.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_emule_plus.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_fr.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_google.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_google_earth.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_gratuit.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_gratuit_emule.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_gratuitement.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_gratuitement_e_mule.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_gratuitement_emule.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_gratuitement_kazaa.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_gratuitement_logiciel.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_gratuitement_real_player.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_gratuitement_shareaza.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_java.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_kazaa.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_kazaa_en_francais.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_kazaa_gratuit.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_kazaa_gratuitement.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_kazaa_lite.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_kazaa_lite_gratuit.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_kazaa_little.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_limewire.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_logiciel_divx.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_logiciel_easy_studio.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_nero.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_nero_6.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_nero_gratuit.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_nero_gratuitement.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_norton_antivirus.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_norton_antivirus_2005.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_power_point.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_real_player.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_real_player_gratuit.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_shareaza.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_shareaza_gratuit.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_shareaza_gratuitement.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_skype.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_winamp.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_winzip.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_winzip_gratuit.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_word.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/telecharger_yahoo_messenger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/traduction_logiciel.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/traduction_logiciels.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/vente_logiciel.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/winmx.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/yahoo_messenger.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/mjeiu788/zone_alarm.html
| http://hometown.aol.de/murnon3004/
| http://hometown.aol.de/mvkmks/
| http://hometown.aol.de/nasono2029/
| http://hometown.aol.de/nodinos0303/
| http://hometown.aol.de/nonesik4944/
| http://hometown.aol.de/nvubxi012/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd0001/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd0002/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd0003/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd0004/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd0005/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd0006/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd0007/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd0008/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd0009/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd0010/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd0011/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd0012/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd0013/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd0014/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd0015/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd0017/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd0018/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd0019/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd0020/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd0021/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd0022/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd0023/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd0024/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd0025/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd0026/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd0027/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd1111/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd1221/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd1278/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd128/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd1595/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd2123/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd2476/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd258/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd2684/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd3214/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd3333/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd361/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd3652/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd3656/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd416/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd4329/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd4512/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd4619/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd4654/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd5642/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd5648/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd565/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd5785/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd645/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd6511/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd6515/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd6521/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd6541/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd7419/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd7485/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd7535/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd7564/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd7651/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd8484/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd8542/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd889/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd8941/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd919/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd9474/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd9519/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ogd9581/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ondosn3442/
| http://hometown.aol.de/pelo90/
| http://hometown.aol.de/raisdnos2097/
| http://hometown.aol.de/rensonsos3003/
| http://hometown.aol.de/resinso3043/
| http://hometown.aol.de/rfeondo2332/
| http://hometown.aol.de/risnosn3030/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ritnosn4832/
| http://hometown.aol.de/rugreg6/
| http://hometown.aol.de/rurur678/
| http://hometown.aol.de/rusnos5694/
| http://hometown.aol.de/saeioid/
| http://hometown.aol.de/sajhsad/
| http://hometown.aol.de/sdfdjkjf/
| http://hometown.aol.de/sdfhjsa/
| http://hometown.aol.de/sdfkkfs/
| http://hometown.aol.de/sdnons2030/
| http://hometown.aol.de/sfjjdsks/
| http://hometown.aol.de/shinso3002/
| http://hometown.aol.de/sonos2332/
| http://hometown.aol.de/sonosno3002/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ssanso3223/
| http://hometown.aol.de/suenso223/
| http://hometown.aol.de/tele3872/
| http://hometown.aol.de/tele3902/
| http://hometown.aol.de/tele6372/
| http://hometown.aol.de/tele8323/
| http://hometown.aol.de/tele9202/
| http://hometown.aol.de/terornos2392/
| http://hometown.aol.de/tersab21/
| http://hometown.aol.de/trrisns2122/
| http://hometown.aol.de/tuenos9943/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ughdons231/
| http://hometown.aol.de/urnsoam2323/
| http://hometown.aol.de/ushusn3949/
| http://hometown.aol.de/weonso0230/
| http://hometown.aol.de/xbcvnmv/
| http://hometown.aol.de/zoans0129/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/besin3023/achat_antivirus/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/besin3023/anti-spyware/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/besin3023/anti-spyware-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/besin3023/antivirus/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/besin3023/antivirus_and_gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/besin3023/antivirus_avast/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/besin3023/antivirus_avast_gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/besin3023/antivirus_avg/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/besin3023/antivirus_com/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/besin3023/antivirus_comparatif/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/besin3023/antivirus_download/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/besin3023/antivirus_en_ligne_gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/besin3023/antivirus_firewall/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/besin3023/antivirus_francais/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/besin3023/antivirus_free/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/besin3023/antivirus_gratis/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/besin3023/antivirus_gratui/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/besin3023/antivirus_gratuis/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/besin3023/antivirus_gratuit_avast/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/besin3023/antivirus_gratuit_en_ligne/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/besin3023/antivirus_gratuit_francais/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/besin3023/antivirus_kaspersky/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/besin3023/antivirus_mac/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/besin3023/antivirus_mcafee/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/besin3023/antivirus_online/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/besin3023/antivirus_panda/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/besin3023/antivirus_personal/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/besin3023/antivirus_pour_scanner/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/besin3023/antivirus_protection/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/besin3023/antivirus_review/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/besin3023/antivirus_wanadoo/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/besin3023/antivirus-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/besin3023/antivirus-en-ligne/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/besin3023/antivirus-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/besin3023/antivirus-gratuit-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/casnado3020/antivirus-gratuitement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/casnado3020/antivirus-norton/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/casnado3020/antivirus-software/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/casnado3020/anti-virus-software/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/casnado3020/avast/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/casnado3020/avast_antivirus_gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/casnado3020/avast-antivirus/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/casnado3020/avg/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/casnado3020/avg_antivirus/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/casnado3020/bitdefender/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/casnado3020/comparatif_antivirus/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/casnado3020/firewall/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/casnado3020/free_antivirus/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/casnado3020/kaspersky_antivirus/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/casnado3020/logiciel_antivirus/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/casnado3020/logiciel_antivirus_gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/casnado3020/logiciels-antivirus/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/casnado3020/logiciels-antivirus-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/casnado3020/mc-afee/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/casnado3020/meilleur-antivirus/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/casnado3020/norton/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/casnado3020/norton-2005/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/casnado3020/norton-2006/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/casnado3020/norton-antivirus/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/casnado3020/norton-antivirus-2005/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/casnado3020/norton-antivirus-2006/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/casnado3020/norton-ghost/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/casnado3020/norton-internet-security/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/casnado3020/panda-antivirus/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/casnado3020/panda-software/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/casnado3020/personal-firewall/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/casnado3020/protection_antivirus/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/casnado3020/remove-spyware/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/casnado3020/security-software/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/casnado3020/spybot/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/dolesn3256/accelerer-telechargement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/dolesn3256/achat-logiciel/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/dolesn3256/achat-logiciels/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/dolesn3256/acheter-logiciel/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/dolesn3256/acheter-logiciels/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/dolesn3256/acrobat/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/dolesn3256/ad-aware/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/dolesn3256/adobe-acrobat/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/dolesn3256/clone-cd/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/dolesn3256/clone-dvd/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/dolesn3256/codec-divx/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/dolesn3256/spyware/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/dolesn3256/spyware-removal/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/dolesn3256/spyware-remover/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/dolesn3256/symantec_antivirus/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/dolesn3256/telechargement_anti_virus/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/dolesn3256/telechargement_anti_virus_gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/dolesn3256/telechargement_antivirus/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/dolesn3256/telechargement_antivirus_gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/dolesn3256/telechargement_gratuit_antivirus/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/dolesn3256/telechargement-antivirus/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/dolesn3256/telechargements_anti_virus/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/dolesn3256/telechargements_anti_virus_gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/dolesn3256/telechargements_antivirus_gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/dolesn3256/telecharger_antivirus/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/dolesn3256/telecharger_antivirus_gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/dolesn3256/telecharger_avast/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/dolesn3256/telecharger_norton_antivirus/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/dolesn3256/telecharger-antivirus/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/dolesn3256/telecharger-antivirus-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/dolesn3256/telecharger-anti-virus-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/dolesn3256/telecharger-antivirus-gratuitement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/dolesn3256/telecharger-avast/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/dolesn3256/telecharger-gratuitement-anti-virus/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/dolesn3256/test_antivirus/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/preus2339/codec-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/preus2339/computer-software/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/preus2339/crack-logiciel/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/preus2339/crack-logiciels/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/preus2339/divx/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/preus2339/divx-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/preus2339/divx-codec/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/preus2339/divx-player/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/preus2339/divx-pro/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/preus2339/edonkey/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/preus2339/edonkey-2000/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/preus2339/emule/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/preus2339/emule-0_46/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/preus2339/emule-fr/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/preus2339/emule-france/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/preus2339/emule-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/preus2339/emule-paradise/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/preus2339/emule-plus/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/preus2339/emule-telechargement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/preus2339/emule-telechargement-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/preus2339/emule-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/preus2339/emule-telecharger-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/preus2339/free-software/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/preus2339/graveur-dvd/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/preus2339/imesh/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/preus2339/kazaa/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/preus2339/kazaa-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/preus2339/kazaa-lite/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/preus2339/kazaa-lite-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/preus2339/kazaa-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/preus2339/logiciel/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/preus2339/logiciel_mp3/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/preus2339/logiciel_musique/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/preus2339/logiciel_telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/preus2339/logiciel-antivirus/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/quenso/logiciel-antivirus-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/quenso/logiciel-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/quenso/logiciel-a-telecharger-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/quenso/logiciel-a-telecharger-gratuitement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/quenso/logiciel-de-dessin/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/quenso/logiciel-de-gravure/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/quenso/logiciel-de-gravure-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/quenso/logiciel-de-mixage/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/quenso/logiciel-de-navigation/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/quenso/logiciel-dessin-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/quenso/logiciel-de-telechargement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/quenso/logiciel-de-telechargement-de-musique/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/quenso/logiciel-de-telechargement-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/quenso/logiciel-de-traduction/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/quenso/logiciel-de-traduction-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/quenso/logiciel-divx/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/quenso/logiciel-dvd/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/quenso/logiciel-educatif/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/quenso/logiciel-freeware/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/quenso/logiciel-gestion/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/quenso/logiciel-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/quenso/logiciel-gratuit-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/quenso/logiciel-gravure-cd/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/quenso/logiciel-gravure-dvd/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/quenso/logiciel-libre/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/quenso/logiciel-microsoft/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/quenso/logiciel-multimedia/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/quenso/logiciel-photo/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/quenso/logiciel-photo-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/quenso/logiciels/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/quenso/logiciels_a_telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/quenso/logiciels_antivirus/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/quenso/logiciels_mp3/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/quenso/logiciels_musique/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/quenso/logiciels_telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/rehdon3434/logiciels-creation-site-web/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/rehdon3434/logiciels-de-dessin/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/rehdon3434/logiciels-de-gravure/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/rehdon3434/logiciels-de-gravure-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/rehdon3434/logiciels-de-telechargement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/rehdon3434/logiciels-de-telechargement-de-musique/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/rehdon3434/logiciels-de-telechargement-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/rehdon3434/logiciels-de-traduction/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/rehdon3434/logiciels-de-traduction-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/rehdon3434/logiciels-divx/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/rehdon3434/logiciels-dvd/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/rehdon3434/logiciels-excel/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/rehdon3434/logiciels-freeware/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/rehdon3434/logiciels-gestion/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/rehdon3434/logiciels-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/rehdon3434/logiciels-gravure-cd/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/rehdon3434/logiciels-gravure-dvd/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/rehdon3434/logiciels-libre/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/rehdon3434/logiciels-microsoft/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/rehdon3434/logiciels-multimedia/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/rehdon3434/logiciels-photo/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/rehdon3434/logiciels-photo-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/rehdon3434/logiciels-pocket-pc/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/rehdon3434/logiciels-professionnel/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/rehdon3434/logiciels-retouche-photo/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/rehdon3434/logiciels-video/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/rehdon3434/logiciels-webcam/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/rehdon3434/logiciels-windows-xp/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/rehdon3434/logiciel-video/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/rehdon3434/logiciel-webcam/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/rehdon3434/logiciel-windows-xp/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/rehdon3434/mirc/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/rehdon3434/nero/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/rehdon3434/nero-6/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/rehdon3434/nero-7/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/seudno393/nero-7-premium/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/seudno393/nero-burning/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/seudno393/nero-burning-rom/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/seudno393/nero-express/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/seudno393/nero-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/seudno393/partition-magic/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/seudno393/serveur-emule/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/seudno393/shareaza-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/seudno393/skype/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/seudno393/software/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/seudno393/software-development/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/seudno393/software-download/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/seudno393/sortie-dvd/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/seudno393/telecharge-emule/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/seudno393/telechargement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/seudno393/telechargement_kazaa/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/seudno393/telechargement_logiciels_gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/seudno393/telechargement_nero/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/seudno393/telechargement_psp/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/seudno393/telechargement_shareaza/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/seudno393/telechargement_winzip/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/seudno393/telechargement-codec/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/seudno393/telechargement-com/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/seudno393/telechargement-divx/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/seudno393/telechargement-e-mule/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/seudno393/telechargement-emule-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/seudno393/telechargement-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/seudno393/telechargement-gratuit-logiciel/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/seudno393/telechargement-logiciel/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/seudno393/telechargement-logiciel-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/seudno393/telechargement-logiciels/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/seudno393/telechargements/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/seudno393/telechargements_codec/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/seudno393/telechargements_e_mule/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/seudno393/telechargements_emule_gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/suens3995/telechargements_gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/suens3995/telechargements_gratuit_emule/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/suens3995/telechargements_gratuit_logiciel/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/suens3995/telechargements_kazaa/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/suens3995/telechargements_logiciel/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/suens3995/telechargements_logiciel_gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/suens3995/telechargements_nero/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/suens3995/telechargements_shareaza/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/suens3995/telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/suens3995/telecharger-_com/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/suens3995/telecharger-acrobat/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/suens3995/telecharger-acrobat-reader/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/suens3995/telecharger-clone-cd/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/suens3995/telecharger-codec/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/suens3995/telecharger-codec-divx/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/suens3995/telecharger-codec-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/suens3995/telecharger-com/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/suens3995/telecharger-driver/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/suens3995/telecharger-emule/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/suens3995/telecharger-e-mule/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/suens3995/telecharger-emule-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/suens3995/telecharger-e-mule-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/suens3995/telecharger-emule-gratuitement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/suens3995/telecharger-e-mule-gratuitement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/suens3995/telecharger-emule-plus/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/suens3995/telecharger-fr/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/suens3995/telecharger-google/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/suens3995/telecharger-google-earth/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/suens3995/telecharger-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/suens3995/telecharger-gratuitement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/suens3995/telecharger-gratuitement-emule/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/suens3995/telecharger-gratuitement-e-mule/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/suens3995/telecharger-gratuitement-kazaa/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/suens3995/telecharger-gratuitement-logiciel/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/suens3995/telecharger-gratuitement-real-player/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0043/telecharger-gratuitement-shareaza/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0043/telecharger-gratuit-emule/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0043/telecharger-java/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0043/telecharger-kazaa/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0043/telecharger-kazaa-en-francais/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0043/telecharger-kazaa-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0043/telecharger-kazaa-gratuitement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0043/telecharger-kazaa-lite/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0043/telecharger-kazaa-lite-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0043/telecharger-kazaa-little/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0043/telecharger-limewire/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0043/telecharger-logiciel-divx/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0043/telecharger-logiciel-easy-studio/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0043/telecharger-nero/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0043/telecharger-nero-6/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0043/telecharger-nero-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0043/telecharger-nero-gratuitement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0043/telecharger-norton-antivirus/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0043/telecharger-norton-antivirus-2005/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0043/telecharger-power-point/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0043/telecharger-real-player/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0043/telecharger-real-player-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0043/telecharger-shareaza/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0043/telecharger-shareaza-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0043/telecharger-shareaza-gratuitement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0043/telecharger-skype/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0043/telecharger-winamp/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0043/telecharger-winzip/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0043/telecharger-winzip-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0043/telecharger-word/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0043/telecharger-yahoo-messenger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0043/traduction-logiciel/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0043/traduction-logiciels/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0043/vente-logiciel/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0043/winmx/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0043/yahoo-messenger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0043/zone-alarm/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec02391/francaise_des_jeu/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec02391/francaise_des_jeux/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec02391/jeu/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec02391/jeu_action/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec02391/jeu_adulte/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec02391/jeu_aventure/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec02391/jeu_barbie/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec02391/jeu_de_carte/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec02391/jeu_en_ligne/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec02391/jeu_en_ligne_gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec02391/jeu_enfant/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec02391/jeu_erotique/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec02391/jeu_flash/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec02391/jeu_fr/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec02391/jeu_gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec02391/jeu_gratuit_en_ligne/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec02391/jeu_online/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec02391/jeu_pc/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec02391/jeu_sexe/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec02391/jeu_sexy/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec02391/jeu_solitaire/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec02391/jeu_video/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec02391/jeu-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec02391/jeu-a-telecharger-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec02391/jeu-a-telecharger-gratuitement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec02391/jeu-a-telecharger-sur-pc/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec02391/jeu-d-avion-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec02391/jeu-de-billard-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec02391/jeu-de-carte-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec02391/jeu-d-echec-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec02391/jeu-de-voiture/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec02391/jeu-de-voiture-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec02391/jeu-flash-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec02391/jeu-gratiut-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec02391/jeu-gratuis-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0293/jeu-gratuit-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0293/jeu-pc-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0293/jeu-pc-a-telecharger-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0293/jeu-pc-a-telecharger-gratuitement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0293/jeu-pc-gratuit-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0293/jeu-pc-telecharger-gratuitement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0293/jeu-pokemon-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0293/jeu-pour-enfant-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0293/jeu-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0293/jeu-telecharger-gratuitement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0293/jeu-video_com/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0293/jeu-video-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0293/jeu-video-a-telecharger-gratuitement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0293/jeu-video-com/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0293/jeu-video-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0293/jeu-video-gratuit-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0293/jeu-video-pc/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0293/jeu-video-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0293/jeux/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0293/jeux_action/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0293/jeux_adulte/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0293/jeux_aventure/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0293/jeux_barbie/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0293/jeux_de_carte/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0293/jeux_en_ligne/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0293/jeux_enfant/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0293/jeux_erotique/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0293/jeux_flash/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0293/jeux_fr/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0293/jeux_gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0293/jeux_gratuit_en_ligne/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0293/jeux_online/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0293/jeux_pc/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0293/jeux_sexe/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec0293/jeux_sexy/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec1294/jeux_solitaire/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec1294/jeux_video/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec1294/jeux-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec1294/jeux-a-telecharger-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec1294/jeux-a-telecharger-gratuitement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec1294/jeux-a-telecharger-sur-pc/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec1294/jeux-d-avion-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec1294/jeux-de-billard-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec1294/jeux-de-carte-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec1294/jeux-d-echec-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec1294/jeux-de-voiture/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec1294/jeux-de-voiture-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec1294/jeux-flash-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec1294/jeux-gratiut-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec1294/jeux-gratuis-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec1294/jeux-gratuit-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec1294/jeux-pc-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec1294/jeux-pc-a-telecharger-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec1294/jeux-pc-a-telecharger-gratuitement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec1294/jeux-pc-gratuit-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec1294/jeux-pc-telecharger-gratuitement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec1294/jeux-pokemon-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec1294/jeux-pour-enfant-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec1294/jeux-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec1294/jeux-video-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec1294/jeux-video-a-telecharger-gratuitement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec1294/jeux-video-com/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec1294/jeux-video-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec1294/jeux-video-gratuit-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec1294/jeux-video-pc/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec1294/rom/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec1294/rom-game-boy-advance/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec1294/rom-nintendo-64/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec1294/sims-2-telechargement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec1294/sims-2-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2311/telechargement_sims_2/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2311/telechargement-de-jeu-video/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2311/telechargement-jeu/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2311/telechargement-jeu-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2311/telechargement-jeux/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2311/telechargement-sims-2/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2311/telecharger_jeu/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2311/telecharger_jeu_complet/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2311/telecharger_jeu_gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2311/telecharger_jeu_pc/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2311/telecharger_jeu_video/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2311/telecharger_jeux/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2311/telecharger_jeux_pc/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2311/telecharger-des-jeu-gratuitement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2311/telecharger-emulateur/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2311/telecharger-gratuit-jeu/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2311/telecharger-jeu/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2311/telecharger-jeu-complet/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2311/telecharger-jeu-flash/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2311/telecharger-jeu-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2311/telecharger-jeu-gratuitement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2311/telecharger-jeu-pc/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2311/telecharger-jeu-pc-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2311/telecharger-jeu-psp/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2311/telecharger-jeu-sims/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2311/telecharger-jeu-video/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2311/telecharger-jeux/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2311/telecharger-jeux-complet/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2311/telecharger-jeux-gratuitement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2311/telecharger-jeux-pc/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2311/telecharger-jeux-psp/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2311/telecharger-jeux-video/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2311/telecharger-les-sims_2/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2311/telecharger-les-sims-2/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2311/telecharger-les-sims-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2443/achat_mp3/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2443/album/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2443/albums/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2443/baladeur_cd_mp3/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2443/baladeur_mp3/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2443/baladeur_mp3_fm/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2443/cd-musique/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2443/chanson-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2443/chanson-a-telecharger-gratuitement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2443/clip-musique/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2443/clip-video/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2443/convertir-mp3/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2443/convertisseur_mp3/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2443/convertisseur_wma_mp3/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2443/divx-dvd/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2443/divx-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2443/download_mp3/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2443/dvd/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2443/dvd-divx/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2443/dvd-film/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2443/dvd-musique/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2443/dvd-pas-cher/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2443/dvd-shrink/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2443/dvd-vierge/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2443/ecouter-musique/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2443/encodeur_mp3/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2443/film/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2443/film_a_telecharger_gratuitement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2443/telecharger-les-sims-gratuitement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2443/telecharger-mario/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2443/telecharger-monopoly/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2443/telecharger-objet-sims/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2443/telecharger-objet-sims-2/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2443/telecharger-sims-2/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec2443/video-games/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3302/film-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3302/film-a-telecharger-gratuitement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3302/film-cinema/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3302/film-divx/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3302/film-divx-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3302/film-dvd/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3302/film-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3302/film-gratuit-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3302/film-pirate-telechargement-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3302/films/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3302/films-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3302/films-dvd/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3302/films-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3302/films-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3302/film-telechargement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3302/film-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3302/film-telecharger-gratuitement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3302/france-musique/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3302/free_mp3/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3302/jaquette-de-film/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3302/jaquette-dvd/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3302/lecteur-divx/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3302/lecteur-dvd/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3302/lecteur-dvd-portable/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3302/lecteur-mp3/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3302/logiciel-mp3/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3302/logiciel-musique/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3302/logiciels-mp3/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3302/logiciels-musique/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3302/montage-video/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3302/mp3/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3302/mp3_arabe/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3302/mp3_baladeur/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3302/mp3_creative/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3302/mp3_download/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3342/mp3_gratuit_musique/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3342/mp3_music/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3342/mp3_pas_cher/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3342/mp3_player/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3342/mp3_telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3342/mp3-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3342/mp3-gratuit-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3342/mp3-musique/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3342/mp3-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3342/mp3-telecharger-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3342/music_a_telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3342/music-mp3/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3342/music-video/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3342/musique/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3342/musique_a_telecharger_gratuitement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3342/musique_de_pub/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3342/musique_telecharger_gratuitement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3342/musique-alsace/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3342/musique-arabe/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3342/musique-a-telecharge/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3342/musique-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3342/musique-a-telecharger-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3342/musique-a-telecharger-gratuite/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3342/musique-a-telecharger-gratuitement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3342/musique-classique/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3342/musique-de-film/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3342/musique-download/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3342/musique-film/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3342/musique-francaise/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3342/musique-gratuite/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3342/musique-gratuite-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3342/musique-marocaine/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3342/musique-mp3/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3342/musique-mp3-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3342/parole_de_musique/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3394/parole_et_musique/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3394/partition_de_musique/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3394/player_mp3/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3394/sony_mp3/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3394/telecharge-film/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3394/telechargement_cd/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3394/telechargement_chanson/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3394/telechargement_de_musique_gratuitement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3394/telechargement_divx_gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3394/telechargement_film/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3394/telechargement_film_gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3394/telechargement_films/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3394/telechargement_films_gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3394/telechargement_gratuit_de_chanson/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3394/telechargement_gratuit_de_film/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3394/telechargement_gratuit_de_music/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3394/telechargement_gratuit_divx/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3394/telechargement_gratuit_emule/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3394/telechargement_gratuit_mp3/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3394/telechargement_gratuit_musique/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3394/telechargement_gratuit_musique_mp3/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3394/telechargement_gratuit_video/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3394/telechargement_mp3/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3394/telechargement_music/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3394/telechargement_music_gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3394/telechargement_musique/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3394/telechargement_musique_gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3394/telechargement_musique_gratuite/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3394/telechargement_musique_mp3/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3394/telechargement_video/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3394/telechargement_video_gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3394/telechargement-chanson/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3394/telechargement-film/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3394/telechargement-film-cinema/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec3394/telechargement-film-divx/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4232/telechargement-film-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4232/telechargement-films/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4232/telechargement-films-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4232/telechargement-gratuit-de-film/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4232/telechargement-gratuit-mp3/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4232/telechargement-musique/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4232/telechargement-musique-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4232/telechargement-musique-gratuite/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4232/telechargement-musique-mp3/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4232/telechargements_antivirus/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4232/telechargements_cd/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4232/telechargements_chanson/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4232/telechargements_de_musique_gratuitement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4232/telechargements_divx/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4232/telechargements_divx_gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4232/telechargements_film/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4232/telechargements_film_divx/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4232/telechargements_film_gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4232/telechargements_film_porno/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4232/telechargements_film_x/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4232/telechargements_gratuit_de_chanson/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4232/telechargements_gratuit_de_film/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4232/telechargements_gratuit_de_music/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4232/telechargements_gratuit_divx/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4232/telechargements_gratuit_musique/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4232/telechargements_gratuit_musique_mp3/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4232/telechargements_gratuit_video/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4232/telechargements_mp3/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4232/telechargements_music_gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4232/telechargements_musique_mp3/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4232/telechargements_video/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4232/telechargements_video_gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4232/telechargements_video_x/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4232/telechargements_winzip/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4232/telechargements-gratuit-mp3/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4299/telechargement-video/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4299/telecharger_album/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4299/telecharger_cd/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4299/telecharger_chanson/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4299/telecharger_des_film_gratuitement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4299/telecharger_film/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4299/telecharger_film_gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4299/telecharger_gratuitement_musique/

| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4299/telecharger_mp3/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4299/telecharger_mp3_gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4299/telecharger_musique/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4299/telecharger_musique_gratuite/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4299/telecharger-album/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4299/telecharger-album-musique/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4299/telecharger-cd/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4299/telecharger-chanson/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4299/telecharger-chansons/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4299/telecharger-clip-video/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4299/telecharger-des-chanson-gratuitement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4299/telecharger-des-film-gratuitement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4299/telecharger-divx/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4299/telecharger-divx-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4299/telecharger-divx-gratuitement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4299/telecharger-dvd/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4299/telecharger-dvd-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4299/telecharger-film/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4299/telecharger-film-divx/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4299/telecharger-film-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4299/telecharger-film-gratuitement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4299/telecharger-films/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4299/telecharger-films-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4299/telecharger-films-gratuitement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4299/telecharger-gratuitement-des-chanson/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4299/telecharger-gratuitement-musique/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec4299/telecharger-gratuitement-musique-mp3/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec7883/adresse-msn/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec7883/astuce_msn_messenger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec7883/astuce-msn/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec7883/avatar-msn/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec7883/clean_messenger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec7883/telecharger-gratuit-film/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec7883/telecharger-logiciel-mp3-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec7883/telecharger-logiciel-musique/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec7883/telecharger-mp3/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec7883/telecharger-mp3-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec7883/telecharger-mp3-gratuitement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec7883/telecharger-music-gratuitement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec7883/telecharger-music-mp3/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec7883/telecharger-musique/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec7883/telecharger-musique-film/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec7883/telecharger-musique-gratuite/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec7883/telecharger-musique-gratuitement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec7883/telecharger-musique-mp3-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec7883/telecharger-musique-mp3-gratuitement/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec7883/telecharger-musique-sur-mp3/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec7883/telecharger-rap/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec7883/telecharger-video/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec7883/video/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec7883/video_a_telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec7883/video_telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec7883/video-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec7883/video-clip/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec7883/video-clips/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec7883/video-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec7883/video-gratuite/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec7883/video-internet/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec7883/videos/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec7883/videos-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec7883/videos-gratuites/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec7883/video-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8111/e-messenger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8111/emoticone_msn_messenger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8111/emoticone-a-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8111/emoticone-a-telecharger-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8111/emoticone-msn/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8111/hotmail_messenger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8111/i_love_messenger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8111/installer_msn_messenger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8111/instant_messenger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8111/live_messenger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8111/logiciel-msn/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8111/logiciels-msn/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8111/logitech_quickcam_messenger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8111/messenger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8111/messenger_7/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8111/messenger_7_0/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8111/messenger_8/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8111/messenger_8_0/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8111/messenger_astuce/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8111/messenger_beta/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8111/messenger_fun/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8111/messenger_live/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8111/messenger_msn_mkt_fr/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8111/messenger_yahoo/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8111/messenger-7_5/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8111/messenger-75/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8111/messenger-msn/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8111/messenger-plus/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8111/mns_messenger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8111/msm-messenger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8111/msn/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8111/msn-5/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8111/msn-7/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8111/msn-7_0-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8111/msn-7_5/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8121/msn_messenger_6/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8121/msn_messenger_7_5/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8121/msn_messenger_8/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8121/msn_messenger_beta/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8121/msn_messenger_gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8121/msn_messenger_mac/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8121/msn_messenger_web/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8121/msn_telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8121/msn-7_5-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8121/msn-70/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8121/msn-75-telecharger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8121/msn-8/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8121/msn-8_0/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8121/msn-astuce/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8121/msn-fr/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8121/msn-gratuit/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8121/msn-hotmail/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8121/msn-jeu/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8121/msn-messenger/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8121/msn-messenger-6_2/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8121/msn-messenger-7/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8121/msn-messenger-7_0/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8121/msn-messenger7_5/
| http://perso.wanadoo.es/telec8121/msn-messenger-7_5/
|