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CYCYLES BY JOYCE LEVINE
I would like to introduce a guest writer to Astroworld. Joyce Levine! She is a gifted astrologer and is kindly letting me share her recent insights to the "criminal class" adorning the hallowed halls of Capitol Hill. Please give her a welcome. SALLY President Bush, Vice President Cheney, and Scooter Libby's Cycles All Tied Together (left, Scooter Libby) Scooter Libby – Born 8/22/50 New Haven, CT. Unfortunately no time is available, so his cycles cannot be completely delineated. What is interesting is at the time of his arrest, transiting Mars was square his natal Pluto. Mars is the planet of war and conflict. Pluto rules, among other things, subterfuge, covert operations, and the masses. In September when in all likelihood the indictment was being planned, transiting Saturn was conjunct his Venus and square his Mars. Saturn transits are typically when people get caught with any wrongdoing. More trouble for Libby is brewing especially in February and March. Aspects from transiting Mars, Saturn, and Pluto increase the likelihood of further revelations and increased conflict. Dick Cheney, Born January 30, 1941, 7:30 PM, Lincoln, NE. Interestingly enough, transiting Saturn was opposing Cheney's Sun in Aquarius exactly on October 28 when Libby was arrested. There is little probability of Cheney being able to keep a low profile or operate without public scrutiny in the near future. His reputation is likely to take a dive in December, 2005. More revelations will follow in January, 2006. Cheney's involvement with the Valerie Plame debacle is likely to surface in the spring to early summer, if not before then. George W. Bush, Born July 6, 1946, 7:26 AM, New Haven, CT Bush had his second Saturn return in June of 2005. Saturn returns are times to grow up, face responsibility, and possibly face the music. Transiting Saturn reached his Leo Ascendant in September, 2005 and his Mercury and Pluto in October, 2005. Bush's Pluto is in the same degree in Leo as Cheney's Sun is in Aquarius. This involves transiting Saturn with Bush's chart at the time of Libby's arrest. By December, 2005, Bush is likely to encounter more problems because of Libby and Cheney. Irrational behavior on Bush's part at the end of January and February as transiting Uranus opposes Mars will likely make matters worse. He continues to be wounded by association in March as Chiron conjuncts his seventh house cusp. Saturn is back on his Ascendant, Mercury, and Pluto in June and July and Chiron opposes his Ascendant once again. This brings more bad news for him, more accountability, and further problems based on his associates. It looks as if the fall elections favor the Democrats. I've started to put my astrological predictions for 2006 together. The following is a short article that appears in the NCGR E-Letter. For some of you, the astrology may be a bit complicated; but I'm sure you'll get the gist of what I'm saying. Up until now Delay has been pretty lucky in his life. With Jupiter Rising in Scorpio conjunct the Moon in a grand trine (the most favorable aspect possible) with Saturn in Leo and Mars and Mercury in Pisces, and the Sun in Aries trine Pluto, Delay started out in life with a considerable advantage. The Aries – Scorpio combination makes him self-directed and driven as well as lucky. It is reported that he keeps a black book in his office of who's contributed to the Republican Party, and only those who have contributed are allowed in—very Scorpio. Delay has been accused of misconduct before, but this is the first time charges seem to be sticking. Astrologically speaking, while he has some favorable planetary combinations coming up, his problems are not over. Delay had his Saturn Return in July, 2005. In August he had a meeting with the Texas prosecutor regarding his involvement with funneling corporate funds into Texas for state elections, which just happens to be illegal. This money was used to help Republicans reorder the state congressional districts and elect more Republican Congressmen. Delay's arrest occurred on October 20, 2005. As I write this in November, 2005, transiting Saturn is about to station on Delay's Pluto. Pluto just so happens to rule big money, the masses, and power and control issues. Scorpio Rising makes Pluto a very important planet in his chart—the chart ruler. Transiting Pluto has passed the last square to his Mercury in Pisces and opposition to his Uranus in Gemini, but still remains to square his Mars in 2008. This means that the power struggles are far from over—even if by some chance he gets off on these charges. Transiting Uranus will conjunct his Venus again March, 2006, following transiting Mars conjunct his Descendant and opposing his Moon in February as Pluto forms a sessiquadrate to its natal position and Saturn forms a sessiquadrate to Mercury. Mercury rules his MC, or career direction, making it an important planet. Two eclipses occur March. The solar eclipse on March 14 squares transiting Pluto, reinforcing issues of power and control. This eclipse falls in Delay's tenth house, affecting his public image, and forms oppositions to Mercury and Mars and a wide square to Uranus. Transiting Uranus will be in Delay's fourth house for quite some time. In politics the fourth house rules the opposing party, and the likelihood that they will let up on Delay is not high. * * *
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Fascinating stuff, Joyce. Welcome. I'm looking forward to more articles from you. Hey - what about Rove?? I was hoping he'd be indicted soon. Any insight you can share? Posted by: Mark on December 1, 2005 04:47 AMVery informative and clear Joyce. Thank you so much for posting your work here for all us AWrs to digest and in this case enjoy. It's been a long decade or more, and seeing some of the damage done meet with some justice is helpful to our tired spirits. I second Mark's request on Rove. Oh my gosh! There are so many villans to cover in these times! Posted by: Pat C on December 1, 2005 05:26 AMPosted by Sir Realist on Salon: "Why does everyone continue to miss the obvious: Our troops are there to provide security for the American contractors who are sucking our pockets dry. A public army of civilian volunteers, providing covering fire for Halliburton's profiteering. We can't pull out the troops because then the profiteers' gravy train would screech to a halt." Posted by: Pat C on December 1, 2005 02:10 PMI just called Congressman Murtha's office (202) 225-2065. They appreciate these calls of support. Posted by: Pat C on December 1, 2005 02:14 PMvia Juan Cole A further step in the break-up of Iraq: according to the LA Times, the Kurdish regional confederacy is giving a Norwegian oil company the right to develop new oil fields in its area without consulting the federal government in Baghdad. The Kurds and Norwegians maintain that this is legal according to the new Iraqi constitution, which devolves control over natural resources discovered in the future to the provinces or provincial confederacies. Next the Shiites in the South will do the same thing. Baghdad will be starved of these new revenue streams, and the provinces will have their own source of income. I don't see how the country stays together this way, or how the central goverment ever amounts to anything. Posted by: Pat C on December 1, 2005 03:08 PM
Brownie Points (1 comments ) What would you do if your country was under attack? If your government was under siege by an occupying force with utter disregard for the well-being of your fellow citizens? Would you ‘cut and run’? Or would you take up arms against the invaders as a true patriot? No, this is not some clever peacenik defense of the Iraqi ‘insurgency’—common citizens using the dire means at their disposal to eject an occupying enemy. I’m talking about America; what if some foreign force that supported torture and opposed human rights and your constitution—a force not unlike say Kuwait, or Saudi Arabia, or Turkey—suddenly invaded Washington. What would you do? Act like a patriot or a girly-man? Well, it’s happened. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tom-gilroy/brownie-points_b_11508.html Posted by: wv on December 1, 2005 03:15 PMvia Juan Cole A further step in the break-up of Iraq: according to the LA Times, the Kurdish regional confederacy is giving a Norwegian oil company the right to develop new oil fields in its area without consulting the federal government in Baghdad. The Kurds and Norwegians maintain that this is legal according to the new Iraqi constitution, which devolves control over natural resources discovered in the future to the provinces or provincial confederacies. Next the Shiites in the South will do the same thing. Baghdad will be starved of these new revenue streams, and the provinces will have their own source of income. I don't see how the country stays together this way, or how the central goverment ever amounts to anything. Posted by: Pat C on December 1, 2005 03:17 PMHello all and great article Joyce. More please! Now gang, I urge you to read the chilling 9/11 evidence uncovered by a small town Montana carpenter and the harrassment he's faced since (story at this link): http://www.arcticbeacon.com/articles/article/1518131/38381.htm http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2005/11/29/valerie-plame-to-quit-her_n_11384.html Valerie Plame to quit her CIA job. ............... http://www.wacotrib.com/news/content/news/stories/2005/12/01/20051201wacbushjuryduty.html Will Bush heed his call to (jury) service? ............... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/01/AR2005120100575.html Murtha Disputes 'Staying the Course' Policy ............... http://antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=8185 The World's Most Dangerous Man ............... http://www.antiwar.com/lobe/?articleid=8194 The Unpopular in Pursuit of the Unwinnable? Posted by: Pat C on December 1, 2005 03:55 PMAntiwar.com Blog All Points Bulletin I leave it to the big boys to analyze this'n, meanwhile, please go to page 9, where Bush, or his speechwriter, essentially admits that the largest portion of "the enemy" is composed of "rejectionists", that is, Sunni Arabs "who are against a new Iraq in which they are no longer a privileged elite." So, the next time someone says that the insurgency is manned mostly by foreigners, quote the President. And if anyone sees the warbloggers returning to the foreigners-are-the-insurgency trough -- and it won't be long before their little snouts are right back in it -- please drop me a line: matt@antiwar.com. Posted by: Matthew Barganier on Nov 30, 05 | 8:49 pm | embedded links at site http://www.antiwar.com/blog/index.php?id=P2532 Posted by: Pat C on December 1, 2005 04:01 PMJay Leno: “The big White House Christmas tree arrived in Washington yesterday. This is President Bush's favorite holiday tradition. 'Cause you know Bush, anything that involves cutting down a tree, oh, it's exciting.” Jay Leno: “And believe me, the oil company executives wasted no time getting their gifts under the tree.” Jay Leno: “In fact, we got our first holiday card yesterday. This is our very first holiday card. Thank you. This is a beautiful card. You see this? See the card? Let me show you what it says here. It says ‘Happy Easter…from FEMA.’” David Letterman: “According to White House insiders, President Bush does not like to hear bad news from his staff. Does not like to hear bad news from his staff. They still haven't told him about Nick and Jessica.” === Jay Leno: “Well, it looks like the holiday shopping weekend wasn't as big as economists thought it was gonna be. However, you know what was selling really well? You know what really sells huge here in California? California congressmen. Going for big money.” Jay Leno: “California Congressman Randy ‘Duke’ Cunningham resigned yesterday after taking -- admitting -- and you never admit it -- taking $2.4 million in bribes. And, of course, his resignation was a big shock. Especially the companies that bribed him. ‘What? We spent all that money and he quit?’” Jay Leno: “Well, did you hear his excuse today? Peer pressure. Yeah. Everyone else was doing it.” Jay Leno: “What did Duke Cunningham say to Tom DeLay? ‘You want the upper bunk or the lower bunk?’” Jay Leno: “This Duke Cunningham guy, he's the one that sponsored the no frills prison act, which takes away privileges from prisoners and makes them live in much harsher conditions. Ooh, good timing there.” Jay Leno: “Even though he stole $2.4 million, he's agreed to pay back $1.8 million to help make it right. So let that be a lesson to all you other congressmen out there. You get caught stealing, you may have to pay back a small fraction of what you took.” Jay Leno: “Don't you love how our system works? So, if you're poor and you steal a loaf of bread, that's a $200 fine. If you're a congressman and you steal $2.5 million, you get a 25% bonus.” Posted by: Pat C on December 1, 2005 04:07 PM
AP added: "Wilkerson blamed Vice President Dick Cheney, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and like-minded aides. Wilkerson said that Cheney must have sincerely believed that Iraq could be a spawning ground for new terror assaults, because 'otherwise I have to declare him a moron, an idiot or a nefarious bastard.'" http://www.commondreams.org/views05/1130-29.htm
Murtha Says Army Is 'Broken, Worn Out' LATROBE, Pa. (Dec. 1) - Most U.S. troops will leave Iraq within a year because the Army is "broken, worn out" and "living hand to mouth," Rep. John Murtha told a civic group. Two weeks ago, Murtha created a storm of comment when he called for U.S. troops to leave Iraq now. The Democratic congressman spoke to a group of community and business leaders in Latrobe on Wednesday, the same day President Bush said troops would be withdrawn when they've achieved victory, not under an artificial deadline set by politicians. Murtha predicted most troops will be out of Iraq within a year. http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20051201100609990011
What would you do if your country was under attack? If your government was under siege by an occupying force with utter disregard for the well-being of your fellow citizens? Would you ‘cut and run’? Or would you take up arms against the invaders as a true patriot? No, this is not some clever peacenik defense of the Iraqi ‘insurgency’—common citizens using the dire means at their disposal to eject an occupying enemy. I’m talking about America; what if some foreign force that supported torture and opposed human rights and your constitution—a force not unlike say Kuwait, or Saudi Arabia, or Turkey—suddenly invaded Washington. What would you do? Act like a patriot or a girly-man? Well, it’s happened. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tom-gilroy/brownie-points_b_11508.html Posted by: wv on December 1, 2005 05:58 PMGreat article Joyce! I'm looking forward too more of your observations in the future! Pat C - YES! I have been saying the same thing to friends for some time now. Our military is not there fighting a war, they are acting as police and security for Halliburton. I agree that if we pull out it would be a death blow to Halliburton and KBR, both of which are charter members of Fiendco and Friends. Besides how will we ever, the US that is, pay back China and eveyone one else that is funding this debacle. These IDIOTS have dug a deeper hole then they can get out off. I also think that the recent trips to China and Saudi Arab Land were to bolster support for the inevitable invasion of Iran. Posted by: Cybear on December 1, 2005 06:18 PMCybear, I couldn't agree more! Got this in my e-mail from a very savvy friend. http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/01/embedded-time-reporter/ Embedded TIME Reporter: Bush Lied In Speech Yesterday About Iraqi Security Forces Yesterday, President Bush claimed that Iraqi security forces “primarily led” the assault on the city of Tal Afar. Bush highlighted it as an “especially clear” sign of the progress Iraq security forces were making in Iraq. "The progress of the Iraqi forces is especially clear when the recent anti-terrorist operations in Tal Afar are compared with last year’s assault in Fallujah. In Fallujah, the assault was led by nine coalition battalions made up primarily of United States Marines and Army — with six Iraqi battalions supporting them…This year in Tal Afar, it was a very different story. The assault was primarily led by Iraqi security forces — 11 Iraqi battalions, backed by five coalition battalions providing support." TIME Magazine reporter Michael Ware, who is embedded with the U.S. troops in Iraq who participated in the Tal Afar battle, appeared on Anderson Cooper yesterday. He said Bush’s description was completely untrue: "I was in that battle from the very beginning to the very end. I was with Iraqi units right there on the front line as they were battling with al Qaeda. They were not leading. They were being led by the U.S. green beret special forces with them." More... They are being called on some of their lies openly now. Yes! Posted by: Pat C on December 1, 2005 06:29 PMThis is very worrisome to me. http://www.montereyherald.com/mld/montereyherald/news/13300652.htm Knight Ridder looking for bids .............. http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001524144 More Than 1,900 Newspaper Jobs Lost in 2005 Posted by: Pat C on December 1, 2005 06:45 PMJoyce, WELCOME. Thanks for an informative article where your information seems to be dead-on. Hmmm...Hmmm...(how embarrasing)) could we AWers get more articles from you, please? Posted by: Janet on December 1, 2005 08:38 PM
"condom" as "condemn"? That says more about him than I want to know! Posted by: wv on December 1, 2005 09:50 PMCalifornia voting summit shuts out voting reform advocate; Panels appear stacked with electronic voting proponents A California summit on voting equipment, where many of the speakers had apparent conflicts of interests, barred entry to consumer groups calling for election reform, RAW STORY has discovered. A nonpartisan coalition representing 25 California election integrity groups held a press conference Monday outside the Hyatt Regency Hotel in Sacramento, where the "Voting Systems Testing Summit" was convened by Republican California Secretary of State Bruce McPherson. this is interesting....and predictable...for non CA people, the former Sec of State was Dem Kevin Shelley, who made sure that Diebold and crooked machines couldn't be used, that all machines had to have a paper trail....so what happened to him? One of the people who raised money for him turned out to be funneling illegal money....and all of a sudden, the media was calling for an investigation (the repubs were) and Shelley was forced to resign...it always was fishy to me. Then Bruce McPherson, repub, was given the job....he became even better known several years ago when his son was murdered in the Potrero Hill area of SF....has always been respected....but looks like he's gone to the dark side also. I should add to that...it profiles ALL the attendees....ALL of them involved in suspicious voting problems in many states...this is just outrageous. Posted by: judi G on December 1, 2005 09:54 PM
http://www.sfgate.com/comics/fiore/ Posted by: wv on December 1, 2005 10:21 PMJoyce, Welcome to Astroworld. You have been gracious to share your talents with us. I look forward to seeing more of work real soon.
When people think of fascism, they imagine Rows of goose-stepping storm troopers and puffy-chested dictators. What they don't see is the economic and political process that leads to the nightmare. http://www.commondreams.org/views05/1128-24.htm Looks like a Dem is getting caught in the Abramoff web....Byron Dorgan....http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/01/embedded-time-reporter/ Joyce, I love the tying in of all the people....a marriage of a different stripe....to see all the ways they intersect, which then makes one think...there are no accidents, just affinities (Goethe wrote a book called Elective Affinities, which I just loved...way before I knew about astrology)....so that list looks to get longer of people who elected to affinity with Abramhoff and Cheney and Libby..... Posted by: judi G on December 2, 2005 12:34 AM
Over the last two months Mr. Cheney has been granted decreasing access to the Oval Office, the sources said on the condition of anonymity. The two men still meet, but the close staff work between the president and vice president has ended.
"Cheney's influence has waned not only because of bad chemistry, but because the White House no longer formulates policy," another source said.
"There's nothing to input into. Cheney is smart and knowledgeable, but he as well as Bush are ducking all the time to avoid the bullets." Posted by: wv on December 2, 2005 01:00 AM'IMMACULATE CERTIFICATION'! DIEBOLD ALLOWED IN NORTH CAROLINA AFTER ALL! Surprise! Diebold got certified in North Carolina today. In what the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) is calling the "Immaculate Certification" the North Carolina State Board of Elections has decided to certify Diebold. This is the same Diebold that three days ago said that they would have to pull out of consideration in the state because they were not willing to put their buggy software source code from their flawed Voting Machines into escrow claiming they had third-party software that could not be submitted to the state. This is the same Diebold that, as BRAD BLOG correctly surmised, were apparently making faux claims about their need to pull out of NC due to a court's refusal to allow them exemption from that state law. But what else is new for a company like Diebold? And who made the decision to go ahead and ignore the code and certify Diebold? A gentleman by the name of Keith Long was hired to be in charge of the process for the state. And what are Mr. Long's credentials to handle this job? Mr. Long was one of the Diebold representatives responsible for previously selling the Diebold voting system to the state of Georgia. These days, Sisyphus doesn't EVEN get a chance to push his boulder an inch up the mountain... he can't even get started. I got a hotmail message requesting a link up with astroworld......by a viagra distributer???????????? Good morning, your majesty. Fine day it is. Posted by: jm on December 2, 2005 12:59 PMGo choose the best slogan at this anti-Wal-Mart site. They are having a contest for the billboard they are putting up near the main store in Bentonville, AR. Oh goody, Sally. It's tChiron conjunct the inaugural Sun time now through the 15th! Hee hee hee That's Uranus in Pices (my)10th house.............trine Jupiter scorpio, on my NN in the 6th house! Free at last! Taipei 101 is a building with a lot to boast about. Standing 508 metres (1,667ft) high, it is the world's tallest. And at 700,000 tonnes, it must be among the heaviest. But the sheer size of the Taiwan skyscraper has raised unexpected concerns that may have far-reaching implications for the construction of other buildings and man-made megastructures. Taipei 101 is thought to have triggered two recent earthquakes because of the stress that it exerts on the ground beneath it.http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story/0,3605,1655977,00.html?gusrc=rss Posted by: judi G on December 2, 2005 02:38 PM
- By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist
Christmas decorations were out long before Halloween. Retailers were preparing their attack months in advance. On Black Friday, the day after Thanksgiving and the most gruesome shopping day of the year, stores from the hellbeast of Wal-Mart to tepid ol' JCPenney to upscale shopping centers across the nation were either open all night or opened their doors at 6, 5, even 4 a.m. to accommodate dazed and bleary-eyed hordes of frothing shoppers, most of whom wouldn't know the concept of patience if it smacked their butts with a PlayStation 2, and by the way if shivering in the dark outside a Best Buy at 3:30 a.m. in frigid November drizzle waiting for a half-price deal on a cheap-ass Chinese-made DVD player isn't the very definition of self-immolating karmic torture, I don't know what is. Posted by: wv on December 2, 2005 02:49 PMhttp://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/001129.html Air America’ Majority Report Barbara Bush is allegedly TICKED off at Dick Cheney, Karl Rove, Andy Card, nearly all of them—except Karen Hughes—for how her boy is faring in the hearts and minds of Americans. The matriarch of the Bush clan is colder than North Pole ice right now to those around her son who she thinks have undermined him. I’ll tell who my sources are if Patrick Fitzgerald gives a call and makes me—but the sources are very close to Poppa Bush (41), who has been traveling a bit with some of his old entourage, including Brent Scowcroft and others of the first Bush regime. While TWN has been able to confirm that Laura Bush’s mother-in-law wants to do more than put coal in the stockings of the Vice President and the other top handlers of her son’s White House, we have not been able to confirm a slightly stronger bit of the rumor, which is that Barbara—not Laura—was planning to call on Nancy Reagan just to get a refresher lesson on how she took on and kicked out then Chief-of-Staff Donald Regan. (I embellish here; Barbara Bush is not going to take lessons from Nancy, it just sounded good. My source told me that Barbara was about to “pull a Nancy Reagan” on these attendants.) Cheney may be tougher to dump than Don Regan, but then again, Barbara Bush is one of those wonders of nature (we hear) who knows no limits and can easily surge beyond category 5 hurricane winds. Should be interesting to watch the role of the First Mother in the coming couple of months. Watch for a lot to change right after the State of the Union address, I’ve been told. And if you are near the radio or internet termninal, I’ll be chatting with Sam Seder of Air America’s Majority Report tonight at 7:50 p.m. ET for a quick ten minutes. More later. http://villagevoice.com/blogs/bushbeat/archive/002120.php Morning Report 12/2/05 Thanks wv, perhaps Morford is close to answering my question. The week starts out with the fascade of the Supreme Court building falling off, and then I hear of a face transplant surgery in France. Since I love symbolic metaphors I was going to ask what the Universal message may be. Is it the Neptune/Saturn opposition coming into focus, to look beyond the surface realities? Does it mean that people will begin to do this? > Posted by: Shade on December 2, 2005 03:48 PMI, too, rec'd that email, Pat C... didn't even give it a chance... delete delete delete. ;O) But its tag was interesting from this site. Lurkers lurkers lurkers... Posted by: JoannaOregon on December 2, 2005 04:12 PMJoanna, I didn't get one. I'll be watching now though. I'd take it as a threat, and I'd report it so that maybe it can be traced. Posted by: Pat C on December 2, 2005 04:41 PMThousands of Firms Could Stop Reporting Emissions LA Times http://tinyurl.com/d9hjr Thousands of companies throughout the nation, including many in the Los Angeles region, would no longer have to provide the public with details of toxic chemicals they release into the environment under a Bush administration proposal to streamline the nation's environmental right-to-know law. For nearly 20 years, the national Toxics Release Inventory has allowed people to access detailed data about chemicals that are used and released in their neighborhoods. In about 9,000 communities, the annual reports identify which industrial plants emit the most toxic substances, whether their emissions are increasing and what compounds may be contaminating their air and water. Seeking to ease the financial burden on industry, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency has proposed eliminating some requirements for smaller facilities that must monitor their emissions and file the complex annual reports. The EPA will make a final decision on the proposal next year, after a public comment period. Under the agency's proposal, 922 communities would lose all information from the inventory detailing emissions, according to a report released Thursday by the environmental group National Environmental Trust. Los Angeles, Santa Ana, Santa Fe Springs, Compton, South Gate, Ontario and Fontana would each lose data from at least half a dozen industrial plants, according to a statewide analysis by another group, Environment California. More... Posted by: Pat C on December 2, 2005 04:46 PM California’s ‘Duke’
By Joe Conason
http://www.observer.com/opinions_conason.asp This is a nice story to start the Christmas season and something to remember when buying presents. He also gives Blue http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Business/story?id=1362779 Posted by: Sally on December 2, 2005 04:58 PMYes, they are great. I shop there for almost everything, as often as possible. The employees are happy. It's like a giant mom and pop. Costco has withstood powerful forces from Wall Street, who tried to punish them for not lowering their human standards, and for not forcing higher profits. They make the rest of them look bad, just be practicing common decency. Posted by: Pat C on December 2, 2005 05:13 PMA wonderful Steve Bell 'toon. ;O) http://www.guardian.co.uk/cartoons/stevebell/0,7371,1656182,00.html Posted by: JoannaOregon on December 2, 2005 07:17 PM
2 pages Posted by: wv on December 2, 2005 09:01 PMThere are three phrases I have been hearing repeatedly (several times per day/every day) over the last couple of weeks from the pundits, talk radio, reading, etc., .... it's very unnerving! Here they are: DRAW BACK - DRAW DOWN - Used in speech/talk about troop levels. I never heard the phrase used during Vietnam troop withdrawls. It must be something new. I even heard a caller ask what "draw back" meant! I thought it was self explanatory, but I could be wrong. There is something that just doesn't jive about the President's speech yesterday and the content of the insight magazine article. Doesn't sound to me at all that Bush has eliminated Cheney from the Iraq policy or other matters of foreign or national concern. Did anyone else get a similar impression?
By Manuel Valenzuela What the Iraq/Bush war shows the world is how a Cabal of Criminality, numbering less than a few hundred individuals, can bamboozle a nation into a war whose ramifications on our future we cannot yet fully comprehend. The Bush war, the single-greatest blunder in America's foreign policy history, was spawned by greed-addicted corporatists and treasonous neoconartists, presstitute lackeys and political hacks, placed in charge of US foreign policy.
By Paul Krugman Are the news media still too cowed, too addicted to articles that contain little more than dueling quotes to tell the public when the administration is saying things that aren't true? Or has the worm finally turned?
Shi'ite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr is accusing U.S President George W. Bush of violating international opinion by failing to give a timetable for the withdrawal of American troops from Iraq. http://english.cctv.com/english/20051202/102226.shtml Posted by: wv on December 2, 2005 09:41 PM
While withdrawal was making onto the public agenda, our actual force in Iraq has risen in recent months from approximately 138,000 to about 160,000. So the first "withdrawals" (plural) the administration will be able to announce after the December 15 election - about 20,000 troops - will simply get us back to the levels that Donald Rumsfeld and his planners always meant us to be at. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11197.htm
A senior ally of Ariel Sharon has given the most explicit indication yet that the Israeli Prime Minister envisages the 425-mile separation barrier as the border between Israel and a future Palestinian state. http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article330677.ece Posted by: wv on December 2, 2005 09:46 PMWell, Beverly, I'm with you--it is strange how some--until now--unknown, or little known phrase suddenly will be on every "pundit's" lips. Does the phrase fairy drop them on the pillows at night? Also, because of sloppy education, sloppy standards, or maybe the valuation of speed over accuracy, words and phrases are often misused in a way that makes my teeth hurt. I haven't heard "sea change" in a while, but haven't been watching tv much in the past week or so. Sea change means a change in the sea--for example it can be calm and blue and beautiful one day then there's a sea change and it is grey and roiling, and stormy--or the opposite. Also, before I entirely forget my manners, thank you Joyce for a great article. I have printed it out and pinned it to my calendar for further study. Posted by: Barbara on December 3, 2005 12:44 AMhttp://tinyurl.com/df28f - Yahoo Former Canadian Minister Of Defence Asks Canadian Parliament Asked To Hold Hearings On Relations With Alien "Et" Civilizations OTTAWA, CANADA (PRWEB) November 24, 2005 -- A former Canadian Minister of Defence and Deputy Prime Minister under Pierre Trudeau has joined forces with three Non-governmental organizations to ask the Parliament of Canada to hold public hearings on Exopolitics -- relations with “ETs.” By “ETs,” Mr. Hellyer and these organizations mean ethical, advanced extraterrestrial civilizations that may now be visiting Earth. On September 25, 2005, in a startling speech at the University of Toronto that caught the attention of mainstream newspapers and magazines, Paul Hellyer, Canada’s Defence Minister from 1963-67 under Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Prime Minister Lester Pearson, publicly stated: "UFOs, are as real as the airplanes that fly over your head." Mr. Hellyer went on to say, "I'm so concerned about what the consequences might be of starting an intergalactic war, that I just think I had to say something." Hellyer revealed, "The secrecy involved in all matters pertaining to the Roswell incident was unparalled. The classification was, from the outset, above top secret, so the vast majority of U.S. officials and politicians, let alone a mere allied minister of defence, were never in-the-loop." Hellyer warned, "The United States military are preparing weapons which could be used against the aliens, and they could get us into an intergalactic war without us ever having any warning. He stated, "The Bush administration has finally agreed to let the military build a forward base on the moon, which will put them in a better position to keep track of the goings and comings of the visitors from space, and to shoot at them, if they so decide." Hellyer’s speech ended with a standing ovation. He said, "The time has come to lift the veil of secrecy, and let the truth emerge, so there can be a real and informed debate, about one of the most important problems facing our planet today." More.... Posted by: Pat C on December 3, 2005 12:51 AM* OK, it’s Fri night, not many of you are tuned in, & I’m away for a few days now re-engaging with the land, so here’s a weird one to leave you with. I suggest that the current pressure on Neptune over the last few years has had an interesting side effect. I think that what we call ‘psychic’ development has accelerated exponentially recently, & that large numbers of us are opening up to right brain experiences. This is taking the form of higher intuition, low level empathy, greater synchronicity & random moments of telepathy & magic. People who expect things to remain the same for much longer are going to become evermore hemispherically challenged. The pressure, stress & intensity of these times offers us the opportunity to dance with consciousness, to stretch between the ears & to utilise other senses. It helps us become humans being, humans doing & humans knowing. Posted by: JoannaOregon on December 3, 2005 01:23 AMJoanna, Thank you so very very much. Enjoy yourself thoroughly and bring us back some natural beauty when you return. Posted by: jm on December 3, 2005 01:56 AMIt's not me that's leaving... I've already been there, done that... I wasn't clear. The narrative was by Steve Judd & the URL was his site from which the narrative was repeated. ;O) Posted by: JoannaOregon on December 3, 2005 03:07 AMDon't you think the piece from Canadian ex-PM was astonishing, jm? Now THAT bears some cogitation tho I don't think the ETs would be very interested in "having a galactic war" (everything is war) with stupid terrestrial biounits or many human becomings. What a joke. Otoh, the "authorities" may be attempting to prep & drum up a "new enemy" about which the sheeple shld get all hysterical. ETs I wld think cld stuff us out like the fleas we are. Mebbe, too, the ETs are actually about to make themselves known to the collective... which wld be very nice. Posted by: JoannaOregon on December 3, 2005 03:15 AMHEADS UP There was a problem with the Perl module affecting the comment section and the ability to post. It's fixed now although I am told it might pop up again tomorrow about this time and it will be fixed again. If anyone out there has a blog, Positive Fusion are absolutely the best people to go through to manage your blog. Joanna, you will find the "Neptune effect" to accelerate even more over the next few months, thanks to the square from retrograde Mars and later from Jupiter (action) and they all aspect the Grand Fixed Cross Eclipse of Aug. 11, 1999. That was the most powerful eclipse of our generation setting the momentum for all that's happened since 2000 Posted by: Sally on December 3, 2005 06:55 AMJoyce, My computer crashes everytime I go to the bookmarked Al Jezeera website! No problem with other sites as far as I can see!!! Joyce, your article is concise and impressive. The ability to get to sum up a point in one sentence eludes me. (I failed freshman English because i did NOT understand the purpose of writing a precis.) I had the sense, upon finishing Cycles, that you see a much larger web of deceit. I don't whether this was intentional on your part or not. I add my voice to those who want to see MORE! karen Posted by: karen on December 3, 2005 04:47 PMMy 69 year old Mother-in-law had this Clostridium difficile for a month because of ignorant doctors! They've put 23 million Americans on the most powerful mood-altering drugs without knowing the longterm effects! Have you read about the Atlantic heat conveyor slowing by a third in the last twelve years? In the new issue of Nature zine they show how the Gulf stream through the Gulf of Mexico has been effected. This link has animation of what could happen to Europe. Excellent links Jill. Thank you so much for those. Posted by: Pat C on December 3, 2005 06:09 PMRe: The Atlantic heat conveyor........I've had a sense that the gulf stream has been closer in this fall in Maine, making it warmer than usual! Ie: it was colder in NY & Phila. this morning than it was here in Maine, ( & I'm at the top of the coast near the Bay of Fundy) According to the Farmers Almanac ( the real one) Jan. will be 8o cooler than normal, the rest of the winter will be 1 - 3o warmer than average.
Dear Barbara, thanks for your comments. I finally figured out a couple of years ago what "sea change" means. I tried to look it up, thats why I know it's not in the dictionary. It is embarrassing for me to admit this, but am sufficiently humble enough to laugh about it now. To have a Canadian official come out on E.T. happenings is interesting. I wonder if anything will become of it. I read a while back that the way to keep "the people" in line is to scare them with cold war (already finished), then ism (on it's way out???) and when that dies, use fear of E.T. attack. I had always hoped they would be more spiritually evolved and friendly. Seems they would have to be to get here from other galaxies. One more thing....I see Mr. Herbst used the word "drawdown" when describing troop withdrawls in his article. Posted by: Beverly on December 3, 2005 09:34 PMHere is another article on merging the Americas that has a little more detail The integration of the European Union was voted on wasn't it. By the people or by respective parliments? Or by both? We will not be asked to vote on this integration! Posted by: Beverly on December 3, 2005 09:50 PMNeil The Moonie So why is Neil Bush -- the president's brother and notorious S&L crook -- hanging out with the even more notorious Reverend Sun Myung Moon, cult leader and self-proclaimed Lord of the Second Advent? http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/ See Moonie ties to Bushites here: http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/moon.html Posted by: Pat C on December 3, 2005 09:52 PMJoyce should include rogue rowe also in the above Neil Bush doesn't seem to have any reticense, in his actions I've noticed CNN seems to be covering a lot of the topics we've discussed here today, the Atlantic current & global warming... Speaking of Republicans who I'd like to see go down, I'm really curious about Bill O'Reilly's chart. He's seems to be a train wreck waiting to happen. He survived the sexual harrassment suit. Saying that San Francisco should be attacked by terrorists didn't get him thrown off the air. But I just know that somehow he's going to take things too far and take a fall for it. If anyone has any insight in his chart, it would be appreciated. Posted by: Mark on December 4, 2005 12:00 AMMark, think of Bill "O'Liely" as a huge over puffed balloon and instead of a slash in all that hot air, he received a pin-prick about 4 months ago and another one about a month or two ago. Instead of a large pop, you will watch him very slowly deflate, but he will deflate. Dear AW friends, I just found on wikipedia, that O,Reilly aka, O' Liely was born Sept 10 1949 NYC. He has Mercury 0 Neptune and Mercury contra Parallel Saturn. Most right wing nuts have Mercury aspecting Uranus such as Gingrich and Reagan. However, liars often have Mer/Nep aspects and of course O'liely is the biggest liar of all time just to push his insane agenda. Reagan had Mer180Nep also. Well Mommy,the truth is out there. Starman Gotcha, Sally. Good to hear. Thanks for the info. ; ) Posted by: Mark on December 4, 2005 12:35 AMhttp://thenexthurrah.typepad.com/the_next_hurrah/2005/12/treason_the_dom.html Treason: The Domestic Component Posted by: Pat C on December 4, 2005 01:10 AMClimate Change Protests Worldwide http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/120305A.shtml The Arctic Inuit who are losing their ice caps and activists demanding urgent action on global warming were among thousands taking to the streets in cities around the world Saturday to raise awareness of climate change. Posted by: Pat C on December 4, 2005 01:19 AMThank you for your interesting, informative article, Joyce. I agree with the other AWers. What about Rove? And personally, I want this whole tale of MacBeth in the 21st century to play out to the full so that everybody in this nation knows how genetically sullied and perfidious this cabal of Repub vipers is. I want shame to rule the day. I want the very word Republican to send shivers down the spines of everybody going into a voting booth Nov. 2006. Just had a wart removed from my soft palate. A WART for God's sake! On my soft palate! Posted by: Beasley on December 4, 2005 02:59 AMAmen to that Beasley. First take these evil, rapacious motherfuckers to the Hague in leg irons, and then throw 'em into tiger cages for the rest of their (un)natural lives. And thats for the ones who either plea bargain down to, or who are found guilty of only the lesser charges!! Posted by: Grizzly on December 4, 2005 09:24 AM
Washington -- Republican leader Newt Gingrich helped the GOP recapture the House in 1994 by portraying Democrats as too corrupt to lead after a series of scandals that led to the resignation of some of the party's top leaders. More than a decade later, the roles are reversed. As the party in power, Republicans now are under fire for ethical problems ranging from Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham pleading guilty last week to taking $2.4 million in bribes, to the mushrooming scandal involving GOP lobbyist Jack Abramoff, to former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay's indictment on charges of violating campaign finance laws. And Democrats hope to take advantage when voters go to the polls for the midterm elections next year. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/12/04/MNGH0G2P9A1.DTL&type=printable Just a little personal note. I signed a real estate marketing/listing contract with a homeowner this past Friday, 12/2. I know that there are a few retrogrades in motion, such as Mars, and that Mercury was probably stationing (?) waiting to go direct on 12/3 or 4. How might that affect the progression of the business transaction? I did an event chart on astrodienst and it's a good chart for me personally as it has 7 Pisces rising and I probably then have Jupiter, Mars, Venus in the 1st house (my sun is at 0 Pisces in the 12th). Also, Venus in Capricorn is in my 7th house and Venus then transits my 8th house, Aquarius, all my 9 & 10th house Pisces planets, and, finally, my Arian 10th house, which should sweeten my dealings in the next few months. Anyway have any thoughts on the retrogrades, especially Mercury. If I'm not mistaken, I think I have Mercury retrograding natally. BTW, this house is in New Orleans but on high ground which didn't flood (it did flood in '27) and adjoining a beautiful park/golf course in one of the best parts of town (maybe the best!) At some point, I'd also like to discuss the astrological outlook on the future of New Orleans (and will look in the archives because I think that was covered). Thanks and Happy Sunday! Posted by: Sharon on December 4, 2005 05:14 PMWhat I meant to say was "Does anyone have any thoughts on this?" Also, to clarify, my natal Jupiter is at 15 Pisces and Mars/Venus are at 22/24 Pisces. Of course, there are those little Saturn and Neptune transits opposing my Moon/Pluto conjunction at 18 Leo in the 2nd house and Mercury at 12 Aquarius in the 8th house; hope they don't cause trouble :-) Posted by: Sharon on December 4, 2005 05:20 PMIt would be real nice to have a party of such awful terrible wicked "corruption" as we had with the Dems "a decade ago"... RIGHT NOW! That pink-piggy gingrich... whaddaCARD!! Posted by: JoannaOregon on December 4, 2005 05:22 PMBesides, the necroporns were NO more concerned about corruption then, than they are now. ;O) Posted by: JoannaOregon on December 4, 2005 05:39 PM Sunday 04 December 2005 When "all of the facts come out in this case," Bob Woodward told Terry Gross on NPR in July, "it's going to be laughable because the consequences are not that great." Who's laughing now? Why Mr. Woodward took more than two years to tell his editor that he had his own personal Deep Throat in the Wilson affair is a mystery best tackled by combatants in the Washington Post newsroom. (Been there, done that here at The Times.) Mr. Woodward says he wanted to avoid a subpoena, but he first learned that Joseph Wilson's wife was in the C.I.A. in mid-June 2003, more than six months before Patrick Fitzgerald or subpoenas entered the picture. Never mind. Far more disturbing is Mr. Woodward's utter failure to recognize the import of the story that fell into his lap so long ago. http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/printer_120405Z.shtml Posted by: wv on December 4, 2005 11:04 PM
Morning.......
‘Urban Myth’ – or Treason? The Niger uranium forgery cover-up unravels by Justin Raimondo snip Who forged the Niger uranium documents? This is the most intriguing mystery surrounding the murky “intelligence” that lured us into the quicksands of Iraq. It continues to fascinate for the simple reason that here is the smoking gun, the plainly conclusive evidence that it wasn’t all just a great big mistake, another unfortunate “massive intelligence failure” like the one that made 9/11 possible, but was instead part of a covert campaign of deception that succeeded magnificently – which is precisely why its authors are so reluctant to take “credit” for it. snip This startling information – that American citizens, working in tandem with an unnamed foreign power, who wanted war and were willing to pass off forgeries as authentic intelligence to achieve their ends, may have been behind the Niger uranium scam – is fed to the reader with a big dollop of official denials, but let’s focus on the facts, not the spin, and ask: what new evidence points in the direction of a U.S.-based cabal of forgers? snip I would also note that, for the first time, this affair – which has always smelled to me like a covert action carried out by professionals – is being framed as an investigation into an attempt to skew U.S. intelligence-gathering by agents of a foreign power. We are talking, here, about espionage. snip The AIPAC case, however, seems the more likely source, in part because its central figure – Larry Franklin – pops up in the Niger uranium narrative at a highly auspicious point in the timeline: according to the Italian daily La Repubblica, he was present at a December 2001 meeting in Rome with the head of Italian military intelligence and two Americans, Michael Ledeen and Harold Rhode, both of whom might be called “instigators” when it comes to the invasion of Iraq – a meeting previously reported in The Washington Monthly. snip This story is breaking fast: La Repubblica has come out with yet another story on this, one that points in the same direction: the journalistic team of Carlo Bonini and Giuseppe D’Avanzo shows that the latest tack of the forgers and their enablers, which is to blame it all on the French – even going so far as to accuse Martino (the designated fall guy) of being in the pay of Paris – is nothing but a serio-comic diversion, another attempt to blow smoke in the faces of their pursuers, who are by now numerous and increasingly insistent. What the War Party needs to worry about at this point is that some of their nemeses may possess subpoena power. snip They lied us into a disastrous war – you can’t “interfere with the operation or success of the military” much more than that. And if a foreign intelligence service was involved, and the Los Angeles Times is right about the direction of the FBI investigation, then what we are talking about here is nothing less than treason. full article with embedded links Posted by: Pat C on December 5, 2005 04:49 PMHOORAY!!! AirAmerica is now FINALLY on radio stations playing to the troops & other countries... no more rush limbaugh only! Announced this morning. ;O) Posted by: JoannaOregon on December 5, 2005 05:47 PMPat QOP, if you're still interested in follow=up on those Katrina victims sent to OK, I'd recommend you start here: United Methodists are usually quite reliable and I figure they'll be happy to try and answer your questions and direct you to other sources. Posted by: shylurker on December 5, 2005 08:08 PMCool site:
Did the President spike the investigation of bin Laden?by Greg Palast http://www.nthposition.com/didthepresidentspike.php Not-to-be-missed poll: Rate the gubmint's efforts to protect us against terrorism. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10335674/#survey Posted by: shylurker on December 5, 2005 08:42 PMBeverly, Pant, pant, gasp--I am trying to keep up with you AW posters and all this very interesting stuff about the Italian forgery, etc. I hope we can "Let it all hang out" as was said in the '60s. Meanwhile, did anybody catch "Homecoming" on Showtime this past weekend? For a review, Google exact phrase "Jane Cleaver" with word "Homecoming." Wish I were better at links. Posted by: Barbara on December 5, 2005 10:40 PMHello Everyone: Happy, happy, happy! The Supreme Court has denied hearing Sibel Edmonds whistleblower case against FBI cover-up. There is a petition that you can sign to get pertinent documents released regarding this case which is still available at: I am very anxious to see of Rice's comments are going to go over with the European governments. Does anyone ever wonder given the total incompetence of this administration to stop one, that we haven't had another attack because "they" don't need one. Back in Miami, the NHC is still rather puzzled about Hurricane Epsilon's continued existence in the Central Atlantic. The storm that was originally expected to turn extratropical by lunchtime Friday has survived bad shear, water temperatures allegedly too cool for a hurricane to form in, and has made better moves than Barry Sanders in order to dodge a couple fronts that have threatened to absorb it. http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/dis/al292005.discus.026.shtml? Hurricane Epsilon Discussion Number 26 Statement as of 4:00 PM EST on December 05, 2005 the cloud pattern continues to be remarkably well-organized for a hurricane at such high latitude in December. It has a well-defined large eye surrounded by a ring of convection...and the outflow is established in all quadrants. Epsilon resembles one of these annular hurricanes or "truck tire pattern" described in the scientific literature. Although this classification is for hurricanes in the deep tropics...Epsilon has indeed maintained its intensity...more than anticipated...like these type of annular hurricanes. Dvorak estimates support an initial intensity of 70 knots. Only a slight decrease in strength is anticiated during the next 12 to 24 hours. Thereafter...Epsilon should weaken at a faster pace and become a remnant low as it moves southwestward and encounters stronger shear. According to the SHIPS model...the 200 mb temperature has been the only atmospheric parameter contributing positively to the intensity of Epsilon for the past few days. Epsilon is already slowing down...apparently getting ready to make the southward turn...much anticipated in previous forecasts. Latest guidance shows a decrease in forward speed as the cyclone moves to southwest compared to previous runs...and the GFDL turns the cyclone eastward at the end of the forecast period. The official forecast decreased the forward speed beyond 72 hours to compensate for the eastward component suggested by the GFDL. By then Epsilon should be a remnant low...we would like. Forecaster Avila Posted by: Pat C on December 5, 2005 11:09 PMhttp://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/ Do you have confidence in this Congress and this White House to take the necessary steps to make the United States a safer place to live? Posted by: Pat C on December 5, 2005 11:12 PMI'm sorry folks...I got conspiracy and money laundering mixed up. Let me explain: Delay will go to trial for money laundering, not conspiracy. Judge Priest through out the conspiracy charges. Posted by: Beverly on December 5, 2005 11:16 PMDarn! Posted by: Pat C on December 5, 2005 11:27 PMDear Pat C., I have not seen the excellent report by James Bamford posted or discussed here but is very important for exposing the manipulation of the American people into a fabricated war by a PR organization called the Rendon Group. All taking place behind our backs using our tax dollars. I won't post a direct link because of copyright but you can google his name and Rolling Stone and it is the first article to come up. Be sure to go to the bottom and check Rendon's reply to Bamford, and then Bamford's reply. Who do you believe? http://www.commondreams.org also has it posted. Posted by: Beverly on December 5, 2005 11:29 PMBeverly, wow. http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/_/id/8798997?rnd=1133826328497&has-player=true The Man Who Sold the War Meet John Rendon, Bush's general in the propaganda war Posted by: Pat C on December 6, 2005 12:04 AMMust read on the growing global piracy/slave trade...with complicity from some very high ups in this illicit economy...which is about 10% of the Global GDP... http://www.motherjones.com/interview/2005/12/illicit.html Posted by: judi G on December 6, 2005 12:40 AMPat C., Thanks for the link to Rolling Stone. I just don't feel comfortable linking magazine/book/periodicals with copyright. Websites/blogs are easy and o.k. with me. In addition to the Rendon/Bamford article, The Lincoln Group is another type of PR organization that was hired by the government to do "propaganda" type stories in Iraq. This was reported in the news the same time as Rendon last week. The were awarded $100 million to do this work! The organization's head is just a "young kid". I did not realize that the Cunningham scandal would/could lead beyond him and his co-conspirators, but looks as though it might lead to the C.I.A. More on Cunningham/CIA at Free advertising I would think Beverly. Thank you so much for the awesome article. Posted by: Pat C on December 6, 2005 01:19 AMIt's Foggo, I think, Beverly. Now, how could you possibly forget a name like that for a person operating in a situation like that? Foggos all! Posted by: shylurker on December 6, 2005 01:22 AMWhat kind of weird humanoid could do that??? ( John Rendon) Shy, I'll check out that Methodist Katrina website. Actually the local Methodists might know, they were preparing packets of necessaries to send to the evacuees, last time I was there. Personally, I don't think the egg has hatched for Delay yet. The Abramoff scandal's spider veins reach out to him...and murder. Still the tide has turned. It' down hill for the Pug's. The Dem's despite their weaknesses are biting back. And we are biting back. Posted by: Beasley on December 6, 2005 02:28 AMBeverly, my apologies. I'm getting foggy. Foggo is in the third tier in the CIA! Posted by: shylurker on December 6, 2005 02:55 AM"I am a politician, a person who uses communication to meet public-policy or corporate-policy objectives. In fact, I am an information warrior and a perception manager." Read on for the chilling story of how this war was 'sold' to the US public. Posted by: brie on December 6, 2005 01:10 PMYou've just got to take a look at today's Media Matters, particularly Brian Williams. they NEED letters. Posted by: Pat C on December 6, 2005 03:03 PMgosh Pat QP....now I know how I can get a job using my newly minted silkscreening skills (completed one semester, starting another in Jan)...PR for DC!!! Posted by: judi G on December 6, 2005 03:47 PM
Anyhow it is really Apepin. This Egyphtion god was the god of evil, distruction and darkness. Jean Posted by: Jean on December 6, 2005 04:57 PM
"Foggo" How Neptunian. Posted by: Teresa on December 6, 2005 05:58 PMImportant poll (re Ho-Ho): Do you agree that US can't win the war in Iraq? Jean...that Bush asteroid is not a good thing I'm guessing...wow. And I have so many Leo planets...can't remember Bush's degree. I hope this means it is about HIM and not the effect he has on us...he can't get away from it...we can.... Posted by: judi G on December 6, 2005 06:07 PMYou have to wonder what maschinations are going on that politicians would even consider such a flawed voting system. http://www.votetrustusa.org/pdfs/LibertyVoteCritique.pdf A way to support NOLA businesses that are trying to make a comeback after the devastation. A partial list of businesses that are up and running & are able to accept orders online: http://hannah.smith-family.com/nola.html Posted by: Pat C on December 6, 2005 08:24 PMShylurker: You are making me laugh about my forgetfulness! But what I am going to say is even more humorous. I forgot the name because I was on a new blog (which I posted here yesterday) called pogo Pat C., Free advertising? Do you mean posting the Rolling Stone article is free advertising for them? Maybe I shouldn't be so paranoid about it? Jean and Judi g., I hope that it would be personal only since it conjuncts a personal planet. But what if it makes aspects to his outer planets. Yes Beverly, something serious happened to him......Poppy & Barb were his parents! Surely you can find a more positive purpose for your silk screen skills Judi! Did anyone else catch Wolf Blitzer's interview of Ramsey Clarke on the Situation Room? He was magnificant! What a hero and a grown-up! Wolf never got a word in & Clarke never raised his voice..he paused to think out what he was going to say, & just when WOlf would speak CLarke started in again! Why didn't that building in Tehran collapse into a smoldering pulverized heap when the jet plane hit it today? The plane had just taken off was full of jet fuel......and yet it's remains were lying on the ground in front of the building, which was blakened yet intact; ALL 9 FLOORS OF IT! Dear Pat QOP, Hi...I did not see Clark with Blitzer (I know that you like him because you have mentioned him before) but listened to a very surprising report about his political past and the "help/assistance he gives to the bad guys." I am not that familiar with Clark so was rather shocked. I mention it in case you want to listen to it. I heard it yesterday on "All Thing Considered" - It was by Daniel Zwerdling (sp) - I love him! So investigative and I love the inflection in his voice and how he accenyuates his words. He has been acclaim and credited with doing a series on the levies in New Orleans a few years ago reporting and predicting the very occurances that happened in New Orleans last August. Everyone: LOOK WHAT I FOUND! If printed out, a 23-page astrology article, charts (2), and pictures of Patrick Fitzerald. Stumbled accross it while searching "the astrology of impeachment." http://www.starpathvisions.com This week from AAIUSA Countdown http://www.aaiusa.org/countdown/countdown/htm “Grow a Forest. Protect it From Axes That Hack. Then the Lorax and All of His Friends May Come Back.” The Israeli media is so much more honest than the American press. This week, leading Israeli daily, Haaretz, blasted settlers for the ongoing violence perpetuated against Palestinians—in this instance, the criminal destruction of Palestinian olive trees. “In recent years, the olive harvest season has become a time of delight for some outpost residents, and the amount of destruction that they manage to wreak—with no interference—on Palestinian olive groves is mind-boggling…In total, some 900 olive trees have been destroyed in [the village of] Salem alone over the last half-year. The destruction of olive trees is not just a mortal blow to the livelihood of rural Palestinians; it is primarily an evil act that reflects a desire to assail one of the most prominent symbols of the Palestinians’ hold on the land and an attempt to prove that the settlers indeed intend to inherit these lands and expel their inhabitants.” The leader then describes the pitifully inadequate complaint process. Complaints, which are largely ignored, must be filed in police stations inside the settlements to officers who are often settlers themselves. “If the government were interested in bringing the guilty parties to trial, if the prime minister spoke out publicly against the criminal violence being committed by citizens of Israel, it is doubtful that the outpost resident would be able to continue their assaults for even another week.” Why was there no US press on this story?
Blessed Are the Peacemakers? Another Israeli newspaper, Yedioth Ahronoth, published a spot-on assessment of the spectacle that is former Israeli Prime Minister Shimon Peres and current PM Ariel Sharon. “‘Peace,’ was Peres’ rationale for the desertion [to Sharon’s new party, Kadima]. ‘Peace. Peace. And peace.’ Peres did not blush and ‘peace’ was not embarrassed. Peace is the most abused excuse of them all, the most easily accessible in the Middle East. Peace is used as an excuse for oppression, corruption, tyranny, and injustice. Sometimes, it is also a good excuse for a war (the Lebanese War, for example). If Peres were really interested in peace, he could have sat on the sidelines until after the election, and then offered his services as a peacemaker to whoever was elected prime minister. Right now, he has no need to hurry: peace is on call waiting, and will remain there until after the elections.” Doesn’t the American public deserve this level of candor? And then there is the mess in New Orleans. No, this government is no government. Anybody watch the hearings? Whoops, that's http://www.aaiusa.org/countdown/countdown.htm Sorry. Posted by: Beasley on December 7, 2005 02:05 AMI agree entirely with you, Pat QOP... the WTC bldgs were destroyed by controlled demolition... Anyone who wanted to see could tell that from Day One. Beasley... the "Tree of Life," named such by those of the Old Religion, aren't called that for nothin'. Patriarchal systems are necrophiliac systems... they will always hate & destroy trees. And there're so few of them on Gaia right now & fewer all the time. They think scary things hide in groups of them... projection, projection, projection. Plus they love to cause Gaians pain. Posted by: JoannaOregon on December 7, 2005 02:34 AMBeasley, I really enjoyed the AAI website and was very impressed by the list of Arab Americans who are successful in all walks of life. I worked at University of Miami for 20 years and left the year after Donna Shalala came in as president. It was a huge coup getting her to accept the position. Sharon Posted by: Sharon on December 7, 2005 04:50 AMBeasley, I really enjoyed the AAI website and was very impressed by the list of Arab Americans who are successful in all walks of life. I worked at University of Miami for 20 years and left the year after Donna Shalala came in as president. It was a huge coup getting her to accept the position. Sharon Posted by: Sharon on December 7, 2005 04:50 AMSharon, Be sure to let us know how the house offer turns out. Sounded grand to me and I wish you every success. Posted by: shylurker on December 7, 2005 05:25 AMnow that you mention it, Shy, the house is under contract already as of today...let's hope the Mercury retrograde didn't affect it. Thanks so very much for your nice wishes. Talk to you manana - Posted by: Sharon on December 7, 2005 05:59 AMWhy is this not a national story?? http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-anth-day1dec02,0,7450119.story?coll=dp-widget-news First of four parts An Incomplete Picture
December 7, 2005 Senator Clinton, in Pander Mode Hillary Clinton is co-sponsoring a bill to criminalize the burning of the American flag. Her supporters would characterize this as an attempt to find a middle way between those who believe that flag-burning is constitutionally protected free speech and those who want to ban it, even if it takes a constitutional amendment. Unfortunately, it looks to us more like a simple attempt to have it both ways. Senator Clinton says she opposes a constitutional amendment to outlaw flag-burning. In 1989, the Supreme Court ruled that flag-burning was protected by the First Amendment. But her bill, which is sponsored by Senator Robert Bennett, Republican of Utah, is clearly intended to put the issue back before the current, more conservative, Supreme Court in hopes of getting a turnaround. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/07/opinion/07wed2.html?pagewanted=print Posted by: wv on December 7, 2005 03:02 PM
Editorial NYTimes Secretary Rice's Rendition It was a sad enough measure of how badly the Bush administration has damaged its moral standing that the secretary of state had to deny that the president condones torture before she could visit some of the most reliable American allies in Europe. It was even worse that she had a hard time sounding credible when she did it. Of course, it would have helped if Condoleezza Rice was actually in a position to convince the world that the United States has not, does not and will not torture prisoners. But there's just too much evidence that this has happened at the hands of American interrogators or their proxies in other countries. Vice President Dick Cheney is still lobbying to legalize torture at the C.I.A.'s secret prisons, and to block a law that would reimpose on military prisons the decades-old standard of decent treatment that Mr. Bush scrapped after 9/11. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/07/opinion/07wed1.html?pagewanted=print Posted by: on December 7, 2005 03:10 PMVoting Machines Under Scrutiny http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/120705Z.shtml The potential perils of electronic voting systems are bedeviling state officials as a January 1, 2006, deadline approaches for complying with strict standards for machine reliability. Posted by: Pat C on December 7, 2005 03:25 PMThey need letters. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/06/AR2005120601707.html?referrer=email Democrats Fear Backlash at Polls for Antiwar Remarks Strong antiwar comments in recent days by House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean have opened anew a party rift over Iraq, with some lawmakers warning that the leaders' rhetorical blasts could harm efforts to win control of Congress next year. Several Democrats joined President Bush yesterday in rebuking Dean's declaration to a San Antonio radio station Monday that "the idea that we're going to win the war in Iraq is an idea which is just plain wrong." The critics said that comment could reinforce popular perceptions that the party is weak on military matters and divert attention from the president's growing political problems on the war and other issues. "Dean's take on Iraq makes even less sense than the scream in Iowa: Both are uninformed and unhelpful," said Rep. Jim Marshall (D-Ga.), recalling Dean's famous election-night roar after stumbling in Iowa during his 2004 presidential bid. Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee Chairman Rahm Emanuel (Ill.) and Rep. Steny H. Hoyer (Md.), the second-ranking House Democratic leader, have told colleagues that Pelosi's recent endorsement of a speedy withdrawal, combined with her claim that more than half of House Democrats support her position, could backfire on the party, congressional sources said. More.... Posted by: Pat C on December 7, 2005 03:28 PMThose DLC necroporn dim-dems are a real traitorous pain in the ass. Go Dean & Pelosi!! Posted by: JoannaOregon on December 7, 2005 04:04 PMInane poll: What should WH card say? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3080261/#survey Posted by: shylurker on December 7, 2005 04:29 PM
"Strangers on my Flight" Posted by: wv on December 7, 2005 05:18 PMBeverly, Tree of Life.............I've painted many in peoples spaces............my favorite painting in the Modern Museum (to the right of Guernica) was The Tree of Life Tell Nancy Pelosi what you think! and tell Howard Dean what you think! http://www.democrats.org/page/petition/chairman
For Nancy Pelosi there is a contact us at the top of the page. Posted by: Morgana on December 7, 2005 06:37 PMInteresting poll: If the 2004 prez election were held today, who would you vote for? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10365600#survey Posted by: shylurker on December 7, 2005 07:09 PMVery interesting news reported over at talkingpointsmemo.com by JMM. Susan Ralston worked in some sort of special assistant position to Abramoff and has had the same type of position of KKKKarl for years now in the WH. She has, suddenly, moved over to Commerce Dept. Ah, yes. Please pass me some of that caramel popcorn. Thnx. Posted by: shylurker on December 7, 2005 07:11 PMCould this the mother of all energy breakthroughs? And the laws of physics don't necessarily apply: Sorry, that should be: Poll on one of the creatures the M$M has unleashed on the world: http://www.nbc10.com/news/5491146/detail.html Posted by: shylurker on December 8, 2005 02:42 PMWow, NEOBuckeye, Joyce
flu update: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/07/AR2005120702608_pf.html House Passes 3 Tax Cuts, Plans a 4th Cost Would Outstrip Recent Action on Deficit The House passed three separate tax cuts yesterday and plans to approve a fourth today, trimming the federal revenue by $94.5 billion over five years -- nearly double the budget savings that Republicans muscled through the House last month. GOP leaders portray the tax bills -- for the hurricane-ravaged Gulf Coast, affluent investors, U.S. troops serving in Iraq and taxpayers who otherwise would be hit by the alternative minimum tax -- as vital to keeping the economy rolling. "Our economic policies have done the trick," said Rep. Deborah Pryce (R-Ohio). "We are in the middle of one of the strongest economies this country has ever seen." But some budget analysts say the flourish of tax cutting badly undermines the recent shows of fiscal discipline. Last month's budget-cutting bill would save $50 billion over five years by imposing new fees on Medicaid recipients, trimming the food stamp rolls, squeezing student lenders and cutting federal child support enforcement. "I don't think it makes any sense to go through all the difficulty they just went through with the budget-cutting bill, then give it all back in tax cuts," said Robert L. Bixby, executive director of the Concord Coalition, a nonpartisan budget watchdog group. "If they want to cut taxes, fine, but they are going to have to cut spending by at least that much to help the deficit, and clearly they are not willing to do that. They have to start looking reality in the face." Under rules reserved for the least controversial bills, the House yesterday approved three tax bills in rapid succession. The first, at a cost of $31.2 billion, would slow the expansion of the alternative minimum tax, a parallel income tax system designed to prevent the rich from dodging taxation but that increasingly has affected the middle class. The next, at a cost of $7.1 billion over five years, would provide an array of tax breaks to create President Bush's proposed Gulf Opportunity Zone in the region ravaged by hurricanes Katrina and Rita. Businesses could write off much of the cost of new structures and equipment, while the states of Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama would be granted tax-exempt bond authority for their own rebuilding. Bowing to pressure from Rep. Frank R. Wolf (R-Va.) and other social conservatives, GOP leaders exempted casinos, country clubs, hot tub facilities, liquor stores, massage parlors, golf courses, racetracks and tanning salons from the tax breaks, exemptions the administration initially opposed. More...
It's easy for her to lie through her teeth, wv, because there are so many gaps there. Posted by: shylurker on December 8, 2005 08:09 PMWell, the timing on this leak is impeccable: Would the person holding the cider, please pass it over here? I've eaten just about too much popcorn. Posted by: shylurker on December 8, 2005 08:37 PM
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/ Posted by: wv on December 8, 2005 10:41 PMInteresting Dana Priest discussion today. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2005/12/06/DI2005120601353.html National Security and Intelligence http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/01/lynne-cheney-unhinged/ Lynne Cheney Unhinged: Insists Her Husband Never Connected Saddam to 9/11 I’ve seen Dick specifically say “no” to the question asked “is there a connection between Saddam Hussein and 9/11” because there isn’t a connection between Saddam Hussein and 9/11. So, if your caller is troubled, I guess I would just like to know more specifics. (Full transcript of the conversation below.) In fact, when specifically asked about the link, Vice President Cheney did not play down — but rather played up — the connection. Here are the specifics: WHEN ASKED SPECIFICALLY ABOUT AN IRAQ - 9/11 LINK, CHENEY SAID IT WAS “PRETTY WELL CONFIRMED”: RUSSERT: Do you still believe there is no evidence that Iraq was involved in September 11? EVEN AFTER THE WAR BEGAN, WHEN SPECIFICALLY ASKED, CHENEY SUGGESTED THERE MIGHT BE AN IRAQ - 9/11 CONNECTION: RUSSERT: The Washington Post asked the American people about Saddam Hussein, and this is what they said: 69 percent said he was involved in the September 11 attacks. Are you surprised by that? CHENEY SAID IRAQ WAS THE “GEOGRAPHIC BASE” FOR 9/11 HIJACKERS: CHENEY: If we’re successful in Iraq, … we will have struck a major blow right at the heart of the base, if you will, the geographic base of the terrorists who have had us under assault now for many years, but most especially on 9/11.” [NBC, Meet The Press, 9/14/03] More.... Posted by: Pat C on December 9, 2005 01:06 AMHow many people do you estimate posting sanity & wisdom here? A small number comparted to the insane majority!!!!
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Haaretz/Dialog Poll / Likud, Labor, Shinui voters back Sharon By Yossi Verter Barring any dramatic developments in the next few months, Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has a good chance of being the next premier as the leader of the largest party, according to the Haaretz Dialog poll conducted this week. Supervised by Professor Camil Fuchs, the poll examined personal status of Sharon and that of his party, Kadima, according to Israeli voters. Haaretz reported this week that if elections were held today, Kadima would receive 39 Knesset seats, compared to 22 for the Labor Party headed by Amir Peretz and 12 to the Likud, which has yet to elect a new leader. http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/655783.html http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/12-08-2005/0004230766&EDATE=
ROCHESTER, N.Y., Dec. 8 /PRNewswire/ -- At this time each year, The Harris Poll(R) measures the level of alienation in the United States. In the latest survey, the Alienation Index, the measure of feeling alienated, has risen substantially by five points, to 55, which is the highest since 2000. ... ... All of the replies to these five questions have increased significantly since 2004 (i.e. alienation has risen). -- 75 percent believe that "the rich get richer and the poor get poorer" (up significantly from 68 percent in 2004). -- 60 percent believe that "most people with power try to take advantage of people like you" (up sharply from 53 percent in 2004). -- 53 percent feel that "what you think doesn't count very much any more" (up slightly from 51 percent in 2004). -- 53 percent believe that "the people running the country don't really care what happens to you" (up sharply from 44 percent in 2004). -- 35 percent feel that "you're left out of things going on around you" (virtually unchanged from 34 percent last year). ... More.... Posted by: Pat C on December 9, 2005 03:52 AMRay McGovern: Cheney in Last Throes http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/120905Z.shtml Ray McGovern writes that Vice President Dick Cheney, whose unbridled chutzpah has led him to take public as well as private credit for being the intellectual author of US policy on torture, has become such a glaring liability that his tenure may be short-lived. There is a growing possibility that the vice president will resign at the turn of the year “for reasons of health,” and that his partner-in-crime – in what Colin Powell’s former chief of staff at the State Department, Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, has labeled the “Cheney-Rumsfeld cabal” – will choose to retire to his home in Taos early next year. Posted by: Pat C on December 9, 2005 03:34 PMKnow it is REALLY bad when they call on the women to protect the overgrown Baby Huey Big Daddy Mommaboyz. Time for all the monsters to sit in their diapers fillled with blood, death and denials. PU! Posted by: bhakti on December 9, 2005 03:57 PMhttp://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-12-08-cia-leak_x.htm 'Time' reporter interviewed in CIA case WASHINGTON (AP) — Special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald spent more than an hour Thursday morning at a law firm representing Viveca Novak, a Time magazine reporter whose testimony was being sought in the CIA leak case. Fitzgerald and an associate emerged from the office of attorney Hank Schuelke at 11:30 a.m. ET, declined to answer questions and rode away in a taxi cab. A short time later, a court stenographer left the building. An hour later, Schuelke escorted Novak from the building and helped her into a taxi. He declined comment when asked if she had provided sworn testimony in Fitzgerald's investigation of the leak of an undercover CIA agent's identity. Time Washington bureau chief Jay Carney referred questions about Novak to the magazine's managing editor, Jim Kelly, who was not immediately available for comment. Fitzgerald had been seeking testimony from Novak about her conversations with Robert Luskin, an attorney for deputy White House chief of staff Karl Rove, who is still under investigation. More... Posted by: Pat C on December 9, 2005 05:15 PMDecember 9, 2005 -- Internet censorship. It did not happen overnight but slowly came to America's shores from testing grounds in China and the Middle East. http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/ Economic chaos? While Greenspan teeters off to retirement, he can be confident that his trap has already sprung. The country is dead broke and will be forced to comply with the demands of its creditors. The impending "austerity measures" will be used to reshape the fabric of American life; a complete reordering of society to meet the standards of a modern capitalist utopia; Greenspan's paradise, the United States of Destitution. Maybe economic collapse instead of something environmental will occur 12/22/05. http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_304.shtml Posted by: Patricia on December 9, 2005 07:15 PMin case anyone still wonders what Scalia or W really thinks of the constitution.....must read!!!! http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7779.shtml Posted by: Garry on December 9, 2005 09:54 PMFor some reason, this song keeps running through my head: Well we all shine on Instant Karma's gonna get you Instant Karma...John Lennon Strange days. Patricia Posted by: Patricia on December 9, 2005 11:11 PMVery timely & uplifting post Patricia, Pat QOP, I'd love to see what you'd design and submit: Our busy-busy-busy man has been quite busy lately. Dry, wonderful wit. Just keep scrolling down until you get to one you've already read. I'd make the little man peering under the bed checking for monsters! Great to see you hear, Joyce! Wonderful article! IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER? But after he actually became president himself, he stopped filling them out. "No one knows what it's like in this office," he said after being in the job. "Even with poor James Buchanan, you can't understand what he did and why without sitting in his place, looking at the papers that passed on his desk, knowing the people he talked with." Poor James Buchanan, the 15th president, is generally considered the worst president in history. Ironically, the Pennsylvania Democrat, elected in 1856, was one of the most qualified of the 43 men who have served in the highest office. A lawyer, a self-made man, Buchanan served with some distinction in the House, served as chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and secretary of state under President James K. Polk. He had a great deal to do with the United States becoming a continental nation -- "Manifest Destiny," war with Mexico, and all that. He was also ambassador to Great Britain and was offered a seat on the Supreme Court three separate times. But he was a confused, indecisive president, who may have made the Civil War inevitable by trying to appease or negotiate with the South. His most recent biographer, Jean Clark, writing for the prestigious American Presidents Series, concluded this year that his actions probably constituted treason. It also did not help that his administration was as corrupt as any in history, and he was widely believed to be homosexual. Whatever his sexual preferences, his real failures were in refusing to move after South Carolina announced secession from the Union and attacked Fort Sumter, and in supporting both the legality of the pro-slavery constitution of Kansas and the Supreme Court ruling in the Dred Scott class declaring that escaped slaves were not people but property. He was the guy who in 1861 passed on the mess to the first Republican president, Abraham Lincoln. Buchanan set the standard, a tough record to beat. But there are serious people who believe that George W. Bush will prove to do that, be worse than Buchanan. I have talked with three significant historians in the past few months who would not say it in public, but who are saying privately that Bush will be remembered as the worst of the presidents. There are some numbers. The History News Network at George Mason University has just polled historians informally on the Bush record. Four hundred and fifteen, about a third of those contacted, answered -- maybe they were all crazed liberals -- making the project as unofficial as it was interesting. These were the results: 338 said they believed Bush was failing, while 77 said he was succeeding. Fifty said they thought he was the worst president ever. Worse than Buchanan.
Quite an indictment. It is, of course, too early to evaluate a president. That, historically, takes decades, and views change over times as results and impact become more obvious. Besides, many of the historians note that however bad Bush seems, they have indeed since worse men around the White House. Some say Buchanan. Many say Vice President Dick Cheney
Let us hope we see this kind of statement used more and more to drive home the separation of most of us from the corporate stooges now running/ruining our gubmint. Eric Francis has this posted over at Planet Waves: "The Bush administration is a rogue administration. They have been seen for who they are, and they do not represent the large proportion of the American people. They only represent the corporations that got them into power and we will continue without them." -- Official at Climate Change Summit in Montreal, which the U.S. delegation walked out on. Posted by: shylurker on December 10, 2005 03:18 PMAwwwwwwwwww, baby panda video cam. They even give her birth data if someone wants to put together a chart for her! http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=1393133 U.S. Foreign Money Addiction Means Trouble - - - - - - - - - - - - By ELLEN SIMON AP Business Writer December 10,2005 | NEW YORK -- It's an addiction. Every day, the United States sucks in more and more of it from abroad, just to keep the nation going. We speak, of course, about foreign money. At our current rate of trade and budget deficits, foreigners need to purchase $2 billion in dollar-denominated assets each day just to keep the dollar stable, said Axel Merk, who manages $60 million at Merk Investments and runs the Merk Hard Currency Fund. Over half the national debt is now financed by foreigners, according to Roger Ibbotson, chairman of the financial consulting firm Ibbotson Associates in Chicago and a professor at Yale School of Management. That's been true since 1980, but the difference now, he says, "is the scale of the game." "I guess everyone wants to keep this game going," Ibbotson said. But if one of the countries we're most dependent on drops out, it could be "like a bank run." David Wyss, chief economist at Standard & Poor's, is also concerned. "If this money stopped coming, the dollar would take a dive and U.S. bond yields would have to come up. That would constrain capital spending and housing and slow down the U.S. economy." Foreign investments in U.S. bonds and equities set a record in September, the last month for which data is available. Foreigners bought $1.01 trillion in U.S. securities in the 12 months ending in September, up from $866.6 billion for the same period in 2004, according to U.S. Treasury International Capital, which tracks foreign purchases of U.S. securities. Why did foreign investors' interest in the U.S. intensify? For one thing, investors can get a better return on U.S. bonds than they can in their home countries. Yields in the United States have been near 4.5 percent, while yields on Euro bonds are closer to 3.2 percent and yields on Japanese bonds are near 1.5 percent. Second, our massive trade deficit has sent tens of billions of dollars abroad, as imports increased while exports declined, which has helped foreign business owners sock away plenty of dollars. And our budget deficit means the federal government keeps issuing more debt. Then, there's our personal savings rate, which has been hovering near zero. "We need the money because we're not saving any," Wyss said. "We need it from anyone who has a spare yen to lend us." At the same time, economic growth in Europe and Japan has been weak, Wyss said. "The U.S. was the only large safe market where the yield looked reasonable." The gush of foreign money "is critical to keeping the U.S. dollar from collapsing, because we have a large trade deficit," said Daniel Katzive, foreign exchange strategist at UBS. "If the deficit wasn't financed, the dollar would fall until it reached a level where U.S. assets were more attractive to foreign investors." It's simple accounting, he said: Cashflow in must equal cashflow out. "If it doesn't, you have a big adjustment until you reach equilibrium." Some argue that the waterfall of foreign money has also prettied up U.S. Treasuries. A study released as part of the Federal Reserve Board's International Finance Working Papers Series asserts that the yield on 10-year Treasury notes would be a full percentage point less without abnormally high flows into bonds. That's because increased demand for U.S. Treasuries has pushed the yield on Treasuries lower than it would be otherwise. Normally, Wyss said, foreign investors would be reluctant to stake so much on the Treasury market because they would be worried that a decline in the dollar would erode their returns. But, in recent years, the Japanese and Chinese central banks have intervened to keep the dollar high. "Central banks have trained investors that there's not much risk there," he said. "That scares me." Posted by: Pat C on December 10, 2005 11:17 PM
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