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Struggling into the New Iraq
As I listened to Congressman John Murtha on Sunday’s Meet the Press, I realized that a nascent idea was coalescing in the collective consciousness about how to bring our troops home. Murtha’s courageous words hung starkly in the air as the beginning of a viable alternative to the daily blasting from the administration of how “staying the course” was the only way to prevent “disaster.” The congressman made several significant points. Among the most interesting, he said that we cannot judge Iraqi troop capabilities by our own military standards, which estimate only 700 Iraqis are combat ready. He added that as long as we are there, the Iraqis will depend on us to do the work for them, reminding me of a parent who can’t step back enough to let his child fill in the required tasks with his or her own capabilities and sense of responsibility, leaving the child dependent, resentful, and weak. Clearly, Murtha’s words have set off a firestorm in Washington, where Republicans fought with all the viciousness and dishonesty of which they are capable to impugn Murtha’s reputation and misrepresent his ideas. As I have written on my blog, this dramatic battle in Congress sparked by Murtha’s courageous speech was one fierce skirmish within the larger battle between Democrats, along with some moderate Republicans, and the administration over the manipulation of pre-war intelligence and the course of the war, represented by the potent Mars/Saturn square that is with us throughout November and December 2005. It is worth noting that this aspect will also be enshrined in the Winter Solstice chart of December 21, 2005, that describes the quality of events for the entire winter season until the Spring Equinox chart takes over in late March 2006. As we have seen, the fierce battles represented by this aspect are not limited to the halls of Congress but also play out in the deadly violence that has been escalating daily in Iraq. As the Mars/Saturn square waxed to exact on November 18 and 19, the lethal attacks in Iraq grew in both ferocity and impact. At the moment, the Mars/Saturn square is waning in impact for a few weeks, as we can see by the fact that Congress is newly quieted by a two-week recess, and George Bush actually made a conciliatory statement, rather than his usual petulant lashing out, that acknowledged John Murtha’s right to criticize policy. However, there are numerous other planetary influences that will keep the general mood of tension and struggle at a high pitch throughout December 2005, culminating in a brutal week at the end of the month. The Mars/Saturn square never really leaves, but remains on the back burner until December 22, when it moves back into a potent one-degree orb until December 30. Nonetheless, this aspect will be easily ignited by the other planetary energies swirling around during this agitated month. Perhaps the most dangerous of these is the prolonged Mars/Pluto sesquiquadrate from November 26 through December 25, and most intense from November 28 through December 1 and from the time of Mars’ direct motion on December 10 through December 25. Mars and Pluto combined suggest a vicious and aggressive quality that portends an increase in the ongoing violence in Iraq, especially the suicide bombings. Although a sesquiquadrate is considered a minor hard aspect (135 degrees), the unusual duration of this one and its relationship to the tense Mars/Saturn square, makes it particularly problematic. Transiting Saturn will also be sesquiquadrate Pluto from December 22 to December 30, with each of the three planets – Mars (10 Taurus), Saturn (10 Leo), and Pluto (25 Sagittarius) - in exact hard aspect to the others, on December 23 through December 26. As if this were not enough, Jupiter will be on hand to stir things up from December 1 through December 7 when it will be semisquare to Pluto and, for part of that time, square to Mars as well (12/1 to 12/4). And, at the time of the very important Iraqi election on December 15, the Sun will be conjunct Pluto in a very brutal Full Moon configuration, with the Moon opposing the Sun/Pluto conjunction and at the midpoint of the Saturn/Mars square, sure to unleash some very destructive events. Tension will be high from December 14 through December 16, but the afternoon of December 15 in Iraq until about 5 PM will be the time most likely to see explosive violence. In short, from November 28 through all of December 2005, there is an unusual amount of tense, stressful energy that is likely to be translated into violence in Iraq and political tension at home. The Sun/Pluto conjunction/Full Moon from December 14 through 16 and the Mars/Saturn square from December 23 through 30 are both especially dangerous times that could bring increased violence, accidents, or natural disasters both at home and abroad. With all of these tense configurations going on in December, there are some other aspects that may help further define the nature of events. In George Bush’s chart, Saturn continues to bear down on Pluto and then shifts onto Mercury from December 15, 2005, to January 2, 2006. This suggests that he will be frustrated, burdened, and strongly criticized for his role in the events of December. In the US chart, we will be in the final weeks of the progressed Venus waxing square to natal Saturn, exact in early January 2006. So the difficult events of this end-of-the-year period, which will likely include tremendous violence in Iraq, will be the culmination of a very dark period in our history, a time of decreased prestige and power (Venus rules the US chart MC), as well as a time of sorrow and shrinking confidence. This negative energy is likely to slowly dissipate over the following months although our role in the world is likely to remain somewhat transformed. Also in the US chart, we find that the progressed Moon will be opposed to natal Pluto from mid-December 2005 to mid-January 2006. This suggests a potentially very intense and emotionally stressful time for Americans, waning after mid-January. And finally, from December 7 through January 10, Iraq will experience the final transit of Uranus across its natal place in its 1921 birth chart. This Uranus return will be the last of several Uranus transits that have been causing tremendous unrest, dislocation, and powerful transformation in Iraq since the beginning of the Iraq War in March 2003. During December 2005 and early January 2006, we will see a final burst of major disruption along with a potent demand by Iraqis for freedom and control of their own destiny (Uranus). There is a real potential for a lessening of the ongoing turmoil and a decrease in American influence once this transit is past by later January 2006. Thus, it is possible that events in Iraq will become so problematic for the US in the next month, that a true tipping point may be reached that moves us more rapidly than expected into an exit strategy. It may be a combination of the increased violence and the Iraqis themselves demanding our departure that leads to this shift. Although predicting specific events should always be done with caution, it is certainly clear that December will be a very stressful and potentially violent time leading to a time of transition for both Americans and the administration in Washington by January. Iraq, meanwhile, will be moving ineluctably toward its own separate destiny and toward roads unknown.
Nancy Waterman on Nov 23 | Link
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Wonderfully illuminating, Nancy! Thank you, Experienced some natal Mars/Saturn energy myself today, sparked by transiting Uranus. Logged on AW for my usual "touch base" with sanity and the long view before bedtime. Posted by: Barbara on November 23, 2005 03:10 AMPat QOP, all: http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/pressrel05/emailscheme112205.htm If anyone here gets a similar email claiming to be from the FBI, delete it immediately and run your anti-virus programs. peace all Murtha was great wasn't he? I read his stance as a "sea change". Here was a real bonifide ADULT speaking! Made the kids look foolish....& indeed they had to back down & show respect! Thanks Garry, From the very beginning of this invasion I thought that it would be a loss for us in many ways. I was stunned as I watched it unfold. I kept saying to myself, "No! Turn back! This can't be real." It always seemed to me like a event in an altered dimension, down to the Cecil B. DeMille aura around it on TV, and the perverted, hard-edged joy of "Operation Iraqi Freedom". The bombs pictured in Iraq were so disconnected from reality. All this military drama in a country that was virtually unarmed. And I thought as well, how pitiful... trying to be heroes by attacking such a weakling. Where are we, really? I also believed, maybe too optimistically, that in the end, Iraq would work it out. so this analysis, Nancy, gives me hope. For some time, I've believed that we would be withdrawing sooner than commonly thought. I hope so. And I hope for real autonomy for Iraq with the coming Uranus energy. Posted by: jm on November 23, 2005 08:31 AMWe ALL knew this War was wrong from the beginning and I remember all the frustrated conversations we had as to the sheeple absolutely believing in this administration to do what is right, even our own Democratic leaders. Why did we know and they didn't??!! Seems like we had plenty of good articles and "proof" that it was a huge mistake. What can they expect of a war that is started at 29 degrees Pisces!! The very end of the zodiac! With Saturn on the IC!! What idiots. Posted by: Laurie on November 23, 2005 12:24 PMNancy, please forgive my rudeness! Thank you for the fascinating article and your blog is great too! I forgot to put in a link of the Gulf War II chart given to us by Nancy in the comment above. http://www.astroworld.us/images/gulfwarII.gif Posted by: Laurie on November 23, 2005 12:28 PMWell done, Nancy. The stakes ARE getting steeper. As tensions escalate in Iraq, this administration tenaciously holds on to their ill-advised, and ill-conceived plans. Will they have learned the lessons? The answer to that will be made evident prior to March when the Iranians establish their own commodities exchange, and tying their currency to the Euro. What do you see for this time frame, Nancy? Sally? Morgana? The following is part of an excellent article, articulating the theory "he who rules the money, rules the world" or something like that. (Hey i'm only on my first cup of coffee :) (quote) Despite the complete absence of coverage from the five U.S. corporate media conglomerates, these foreign news stories suggest one of the Federal Reserve’s nightmares may begin to unfold in the spring of 2006, when it appears that international buyers will have a choice of buying a barrel of oil for $60 dollars on the NYMEX and IPE - or purchase a barrel of oil for €45 - €50 euros via the Iranian Bourse. This assumes the euro maintains its current 20-25% appreciated value relative to the dollar – and assumes that some sort of US "intervention" is not launched against Iran. (end quote) More here http://www.energybulletin.net/7707.html karen Posted by: karen on November 23, 2005 02:37 PMWell no wonder it seemed unreal to me! Pisces rising, Sun 29. Thanks, Laurie. That explains everything. Almost. Posted by: jm on November 23, 2005 03:12 PMAwesome and important article Nancy! The chart for Baghdad is chilling. http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/112305Z.shtml How Pre-War Iraq Intel Was Cooked Democrats leading the charge into the second phase of a bipartisan investigation into pre-war Iraq intelligence have said this week that they will spend the next month or so working with Pentagon officials who last week agreed to probe a top secret spy shop once headed by Undersecretary of Defense Douglas Feith that many longtime CIA and FBI officials and other intelligence analysts believe was responsible for providing the Bush administration with bogus intelligence used to justify war with Iraq. When the probe is complete, which aides to Senator John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Senator Carl Levin (D-Mich.) - both of whom are aggressively working to collect pre-war intelligence documents that undercut administration's claims that Iraq posed a grave threat to national security - said will likely be in early 2006, there could be some sort of "public reprimand" brought against lower-level administration officials who work or worked at the Defense Department, the National Security Council, and in the office of Vice President Dick Cheney, for "cherry-picking" questionable intelligence on Iraq and using it to win public support for the war. Based on the way the probe is starting to shape up, it's clear the administration, particularly Feith, who resigned earlier this year, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, and possibly Cheney will bear the brunt of the blame, because the three of them sidestepped the usual intelligence gathering process that historically was handled by the CIA and the Defense Intelligence Agency in favor of their own clandestine intelligence gathering operations in which questionable information on the so-called Iraqi threat was collected and used by administration officials to build a case for war but wasn't vetted by career intelligence analysts, said a senior aide to McCain who requested anonymity for fear of angering members of the GOP. Last month, under pressure from Democrats and some Republicans, and with public support for war eroding, the Pentagon's Inspector General agreed to probe Feith's secret spy group, the Office of Special Plans, and whether the operation played a role in manipulating pre-war Iraq intelligence in addition to knowingly passing dubious intelligence from defectors from Ahmad Chalabi's Iraqi National Congress to the White House to convince lawmakers and the American public into backing the war. The White House has been dogged by questions since the start of the Iraq war more than two years ago regarding whether the intelligence information it had relied upon was accurate and whether top White House officials knowingly used unreliable intelligence in the buildup to war. More.... Posted by: Pat C on November 23, 2005 04:09 PMhttp://donkeyodtoo.blogspot.com/ George Bush's Third Term By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN His second term was very brief. It lasted from his re-election in November 2004 until Election Day 2005. This was an utterly wasted term. It was dominated by an attempt to privatize Social Security, which the country rejected, political scandals involving I. Lewis Libby Jr., Tom DeLay and Bill Frist, a ham-fisted response to Katrina and a mishandling of the Iraq war to such a degree that many Democrats and Republicans have begun to vote "no confidence" in the Bush-Cheney war performance. If ours were a parliamentary system, Mr. Bush would have had to resign by now. So now begins Mr. Bush's third term. What will he do with it? The last time Mr. Bush hit rock bottom - then from too much drinking - he found God and turned his life around. Now that he has hit rock bottom again - this time from drinking in too much Karl Rove - the question is whether he can find America and turn his presidency around. When I watch Mr. Bush these days, though, he looks to me like a man who wishes that we had a 28th amendment to the Constitution - called "Can I Go Now?" He looks like someone who would prefer to pack up and go back to his Texas ranch. It's not just that he doesn't seem to be having any fun. It's that he seems to be totally out of ideas relevant to the nation's future. More.... Posted by: Pat C on November 23, 2005 04:30 PMThe police are moving in on the protesters outside of the Bush "ranch". Heard it on MSNBC. http://www.wacotrib.com/news/content/news/stories/2005/11/23/20051123wacsheehan.html Sheehan activists in court and ditches today By Tommy Witherspoon Tribune-Herald staff writer An anti-war group led by the California woman known as "Peace Mom" will be in court this morning, seeking to block enforcement of new county ordinances banning parking and residing along roads leading to President Bush's ranch. U.S. District Judge Walter S. Smith Jr. has scheduled a hearing for this morning to consider a request for a temporary restraining order from anti-war protesters challenging the constitutionality of the new ordinances. McLennan County commissioners passed two ordinances in September banning parking along 23 miles of county roads surrounding Bush's Crawford-area ranch and prohibiting camping and placing sewage receptacles along all county roads. The ordinances were passed less than a month after Cindy Sheehan and her growing ranks of supporters ended their monthlong peace vigil near Crawford. County officials said the ordinances are designed to prevent traffic snarls and health and safety concerns and are not intended to prevent Sheehan from delivering her message that U.S. troops should come home from Iraq now. However, in a statement, Sheehan's fellow protesters – some of whom plan to openly defy the ordinances near the Bush ranch this morning – say the county commissioners' action is "a violation of our constitutional rights to free speech and free assembly." Jim Harrington, director of the Texas Civil Rights Project, filed a federal lawsuit against the county Monday that challenges the new ordinances and requests the temporary restraining order. "Our position clearly is that if people are going to be arrested, they need to be arrested for the right reasons," Harrington said. "I think the folks around the Bush ranch are bound and determined that they are not going to have any First Amendment activity around there. Certainly, the county is entitled to reasonable regulation, but you can't use regulation to suppress speech." McLennan County Judge Jim Lewis said the lawsuit has not changed his position about the need for or legality of the ordinances. "I still don't think anybody should be able to put a porta-potty in a bar ditch or live in a bar ditch," Lewis said. "It's just that simple." More... Posted by: Pat C on November 23, 2005 04:32 PM
Jay Leno: “And President Bush and his staff are on the way to China. Do you know why they're going to China? Anybody know? No extradition.” Jay Leno: “Yesterday, President Bush had an embarrassing moment, after holding a press conference in China. Did you see this on the news? He tried to leave the room, but the doors he was pulling on were locked. Once again, no exit strategy.” David Letterman: “President Bush is back from his Asian trip. Did you see the footage of him in China? He had a press conference and he went to leave and he walked to a door, and the door was locked. He couldn't get out of the door and he just stood there. Talk about not having an exit strategy, you know what I'm saying.” David Letterman: Top Ten Things George Bush Is Thinking At This Moment [Trying To Leave Press Conference Through Locked Doors]: 10. Damn, al Qaeda. 9. Am I that hung over. 8. Wish I’d thought of an exit strategy. 7. It was easier to get out of the National Guard. 6. Hey, at least I didn’t throw up like Daddy. 5. I just heard Oprah’s going to be on Letterman. 4. I know how to solve this problem – tax cuts for the rich. 3. I hope this doesn’t hurt my chances of getting re-elected. 2. I need another five week vacation. 1. Talk to Condi about invading China.” David Letterman: “Thanksgiving is Thursday. And today the terror alert was raised to cranberry.” David Letterman: “And of course, everybody loves turkey and you have the turkey and a lot of people will bake the turkey. A lot of people will broil the turkey. A lot of people will pan fry the turkey. A lot of people will deep-fry the turkey but not everybody likes cooked turkey. For example, Vice President Dick Cheney plans to have the CIA torture his.” David Letterman: “Oh, unbelievable, over $100 million, the Harry Potter movie. That is crazy. That brought in more cash than a Tom DeLay barbecue.” Jay Leno: “Federal agents rounded up 100 illegal aliens working at a construction site, in Minersville, Pennsylvania, where a Wal-Mart was being built. Isn't that unbelievable? Illegal aliens are not only working at Wal-Mart, now they're building Wal-Mart.” Jay Leno: “Authorities said they'd probably be deported to another Wal-Mart.” Posted by: Pat C on November 23, 2005 04:40 PMPoll: What to do in Iraq? Oops! Left-hand col. Sowwy. Posted by: shylurker on November 23, 2005 04:56 PMBlue vs Red map [Bush job approval] Based upon SurveyUSA's 50 state poll in Nov http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/11/23/13222/916 ........................................... More maps http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/11/18/91619/117 Posted by: Pat C on November 23, 2005 05:08 PMI heartily object to terms used in the media, such as "Iraq War," when accuracy demands the term "US/UK war or assault on Iraq." We had US/UK Assault/War on Vietnam... not Vietnam war. We had "US Assault/War on Panama." We had... the list is quite long as we all know. I think it's very important to keep terms very clear in an age... one LONG age... where terms are deliberately twisted, stretched & turned upside down to fit the collective mind-control demands of old "white" supremacist wargeezers. Posted by: JoannaOregon on November 23, 2005 05:35 PMAMEN Joanna! We need to demand a clearly honest media! If we don't, we won't get it. Posted by: Pat C on November 23, 2005 05:38 PMDubya Pouts, Cheney scowles,and there's not enough pie....Mark Morford Ah yes, it is that time again. The smell of roasting turkey and cigar smoke and Polo cologne, perfume like florid gasoline. Copious forced laughter that sounds like geese mating in a broom closet. It is Thanksgiving dinner at the Bush White House, where the guests mingle as though they were being squeezed by manic elves. They await the appearance of the bird in the cozy, heavily paneled White House drawing room with the grand chandelier sparkling there since the Truman administration, the rest of the space engorged with stuffy furniture that Laura chose herself and that she thinks is manly and presidential but that actually looks as if it were bought at a Jersey consignment store run by Ethan Allen's stoned brother. Barbara rules. Owns the house, even though she hasn't lived here in nearly 13 years. Laura can only look at her in numb awe, her own stiff skirt pleats appearing humble and small in comparison to Barb's massive teal dress ensemble, so epic and balloonlike it would seem to envelope all it comes near, like a giant ocean algae bloom, a huge amoeba, a cloud of righteous know-it-allness that makes easy mockery of Laura's little beige blouse of meek sexless humility. Barb is a force of nature, commanding the staff and chatting up the various heads of state and smiling at everyone with that glassy omnivorous stare. They all hate her. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/11/23/DDGSKFS3UD1.DTL&type=printable Posted by: wv on November 23, 2005 06:14 PM
Cheney's Trouble with the Truth - Robert Scheer YOU'VE GOT to hand it to Dick Cheney; no other modern politician has come so close to perfecting the theater of the absurd. Even as he protests his innocence of lying about matters of state, he lies about matters of state. In speeches Friday and Monday, the vice president, who has long insisted Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda were allies, Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, we would be greeted as liberators in Baghdad, and that the Iraqi insurgency is in its ''last throes," again evidenced his trademark inability to speak the truth. Posted by: wv on November 23, 2005 06:37 PMPoll: Is it fair (huh?) to ban parking and camping around Smirky's "ranch" at Crawford? http://democrats.reform.house.gov/IraqOnTheRecord/ Henry Waxman - Iraq on the Record Posted by: Pat C on November 23, 2005 06:52 PMJoannaO, Pat C, check this out--- http://www.mediainfo.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001570424 Posted by: Garry on November 23, 2005 07:03 PMWow Garry!! Wooo hooo. Posted by: Pat C on November 23, 2005 07:15 PMHave passed that on, Garry! ;O) Posted by: JoannaOregon on November 23, 2005 08:36 PMI wonder what were the Marching Orders bushaholic rec'd from the Chinese govt... seein' as how they now own 'mer'ca n' all. Ah Joanna and maybe the question should be asked who owns China now???? Those corporations now consider themselves to be "global" and have no allegiance to America...They don't even want our military anymore since we question how we want to participate in their wars. Does anyone else think that part of the raison etre behind Iraq was destroying our military? Meanwhile building China's. how has China grown so astonishingly in the past 10 years without massive outside help? Nancy tseka, write that book. What a book that would be! Maybe people would get the picture from an action adventure. Posted by: Pat C on November 23, 2005 09:28 PMSuspense as well! Posted by: Pat C on November 23, 2005 09:32 PMExcellent points, tseka. And the bushadruggies have stepped-up their playing for time... particularly in regards to their assault on Iraq... look at that fan out they just did in Asia... China, Mongolia... what were they DOING over in those countries besides spending huge amounts of our money... Posted by: JoannaOregon on November 23, 2005 10:14 PMtseka, Hello...your points are certainly well taken as usual. I remember seeing a poll asking the question "What country is our biggest threat right now and in future." I picked China and surpirsed to find some 80% of others did also. So there is awareness on the part of the people regarding possible "threats." Mr. Bush came back from his Asian tour basically with nothing. It was suggested on a left leaning blog that when he got there he should bend down and go "directly on his knees" which is aptly expressed. I sure hope China doesn't decide to come calling anytime soon. Posted by: Beverly on November 23, 2005 10:51 PM* God Help Him - Alito gets religion. http://www.slate.com/id/2130886?nav=wp Look at this guy... he's a gay homophobe mysogynist. Married? So what! The US Constitution doesn't say woman have rights over their own bodies... say the boyz who need to pay attn over their OWN bodies... quick! Does the Constitution also say whether folks have a right to breathe or drink water or pick their noses? WhaddaBlitheringZero! Timely article Nancy. Pat C, thanks for the latest Letterman/Leno jokes, they were hilarious. Posted by: Sally on November 24, 2005 12:19 AMHere are some more Sally! "Vice President Dick Cheney said he is particularly upset when critics say they lied us into the war. I say fine. Just lie us back out and we'll call it even. How about that?" --Jay Leno "Earlier today President Bush pardoned the White House turkey. Here's an interesting fact. Do you know how they pick the turkey to give the presidential pardon to? They see which one gave the most money to Tom DeLay." --Jay Leno "Thanksgiving is almost here. Today President Bush pardoned the White House turkey. Dick Cheney however wanted to torture it." --Conan O'Brien "As you know President Bush has returned from his Asian tour. Remember the old days when Nixon opened the door to China? Now we can't even open a door in China." --Jay Leno "President Bush has returned from China. While in China there was one moment where he went to leave a press conference and couldn't get a door open. By habit he said, "Jenna, what are you doing?!" --David Letterman "In an interview in GQ, rap artist 50 Cent says he is a big fan of President Bush...this increases President Bush's approval rating among African Americans to one." --Jay Leno Posted by: Pat C on November 24, 2005 12:37 AMThe Trust is Gone By Dan Froomkin Special to washingtonpost.com Wednesday, November 23, 2005; 12:45 PM Within official Washington, politicians and journalists keep going round and round about whether or not the Bush administration deliberately misled the public in the run up to war in Iraq. But out there in America, it appears the general public has already made up its mind. In fact, a very solid majority of Americans apparently feels that the Bush administration is being consistently deceptive, on a wide array of issues. The Wall Street Journal reports: "A majority of U.S. adults believe the Bush administration generally misleads the public on current issues, while fewer than a third of Americans believe the information provided by the administration is generally accurate, the latest Harris Interactive poll finds." Overall, 64 percent of Americans believe the Bush administration "generally misleads the American public on current issues to achieve its own ends" -- including 91 percent of Democrats, 73 percent of independents and 28 percent of Republicans. The Journal also reports: "When asked about former Vice Presidential Chief of Staff Lewis 'Scooter' Libby, who has been indicted on charges of perjury, obstruction of justice and making false statements, more than half of U.S. adults say the situation indicates 'a larger problem in the Bush administration,' while 35% say it was an 'isolated incident.' About 82% of Democrats say it indicates a larger problem, while 70% of Republicans feel the Libby case is an isolated incident." So here's my question: At what point does the mainstream media stop spending so much time covering the inside-the-Beltway rhetorical hairsplitting over whether the public has been intentionally misled -- and concentrate instead on the essential W's of reporting: who, what, where, when and why? Con't http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/linkset/2005/04/11/LI2005041100879.html Posted by: Pat C on November 24, 2005 01:39 AMWold class expression of the pain IMHO: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/gate/archive/2005/11/23/notes112305.DTL&nl=fix Scenes From A Bush Thanksgiving snip... "The banquet room reeks and coils and sighs. It is full of bleak energy and missed opportunities, spiritual paranoia and repressed desire and dishonest laughter. The turkey comes out dry. There is not enough pie for Dubya. Rumsfeld slurps his scotch, drunkenly. Dick eyes the dark thigh meat. Condi has to pee. There is little to be thankful for, inside this room. Outside, however, among the nation's awakening throngs, gratitude and hope are beginning to swell and grow anew. Only three years left. It's long but not that long. Every person in that gloomy room will be gone. History. Nothing left but an ugly stain, oily residue, scar tissue. The room will be refreshed. The turkey will be moist. There will be more cranberry sauce. This dark, warmongering chapter will finally end. Pie all around. It is not, the world realizes, too early to be thankful for that." Posted by: Pat C on November 24, 2005 01:57 AMHeh, Pat C, What write a thrilling suspense novel about geo politics????me?????hahahhah now a story about a rascally coyote sneaking in to lift his leg on my side of the line or a tale of my beloved bobcat co-habitors of space, ja maybe, but, you would all be bored. Truthfully, I'm looking forward to watching America unfold into her future where she isn't the police force of the world. I'm imagining a new masculine identity that springs up in this country.....whoooo maybe we could go romance novel? Dimestore ficton sells. hmmm.... perhaps we have been looking at this all wrong, waiting for the masses to "get it" and upset with Mainstream Media because they weren't reporting. We all know the masses aren't listening to the news with more than half an ear, reading papers is far in our past, and the pulpit has been commandeered or possibly was always a tool of the otherside. Pulp fiction, Junk TV....who knows? Remember Camelot (JFK's whitehouse tenure for those too young to know)? We were all sold on a dashing life that was completely new to most of us. Books and art and wonderful creativity emerged, we were exposed to a completly new concept of living, war was on poverty...we felt good about ourselves...asking not what our country..., etc. Pretty good public relations and advertising campaign, brief but long lasting and had high impact. good idea Pat C, but we need to find an author... Posted by: tseka on November 24, 2005 02:19 AMThank you, Nancy, for an excellent article. I cannot help but remember election 2000 and then the horrific one in 2004, how most of us were so numb and then depressed, amazed by the obvious chicanery (sp?), and the obvious perversion of truth to get us into a very, very stupid war. We had no where to turn. We were told to be silent. We were fighting with family members. We were labeled as "liberals" (as if that described the scourge of plague. Our TV commercials told us to go to Jesus and sing songs of praise. We spoke in whispers. Gradually, we found each other, Common Cause, Moveon, Democratic Underground, Daily Kos, Air America, Starlight News, Astroworld and many, many other brilliant vehicles of expression. Now Murtha, Conyers, Rush Holt, Palozzi (sp?), Sheehan, David Elsberg (again),even John Kerry... Mc Cain...and many more to come... I think of this and say in a self congratulatory way to all of us, "We are putting up a damn good fight, and we will win." We have written letters, hounded our congressmen, harrassed our media, signed petitions, black listed companies, alerted our friends and enemies that we are still here and we aren't going away, and that we can be very, very dangerous. I'd say that's a DAMN good fight over five and some years. Happy Thanksgiving to all. Posted by: Beasley on November 24, 2005 03:09 AMOh I don't know tseka, I thought you made a pretty good start in that post upthread. ;-) http://salon.com/opinion/feature/2005/11/23/koppel/print.html The Ted Koppel I knew He was a fine journalist and a decent man – but to stay atop journalism's establishment, even he had to make a deal with the devil.
The Ted Koppel I knew He was a fine journalist and a decent man – but to stay atop journalism's establishment, even he had to make a deal with the devil. Nov. 23, 2005 | Ted Koppel's retirement in the midst of Plamegate focuses attention on the most pressing issue facing American journalism: its abdication of its responsibility to expose government wrongdoing and lies. It is critical to raise our sights above the minutiae of Plamegate -- what Miller, Cheney, Woodward, Libby, Sulzberger, Cooper, Rove, Russert, Novak and Downie said to each other and when -- to the real issue involved: how democracy is weakened when journalists trade access to high officials in return for direct or indirect support of governmental misdeeds. The media is particularly critical to democracy at a time like today, when one party and ideology controls the executive, legislative and judicial branches. Without a media critical of government, America democracy simply ceases to exist -- as occurred when the Bush administration took this nation to war in Iraq by distorting the information it had about Saddam's weapons of mass destruction. Dana Priest deserves a Pulitzer for revealing the existence of CIA-run secret prisons. Judy Miller was a mouthpiece, turning out biased reporting that was fatally dependent on administration sources pursuing their own agenda. Nicholas Kristof was a real reporter when he quoted Joseph Wilson refuting administration lies on Niger. Robert Novak was no more a journalist than a Pravda correspondent when he transmitted slimy administration attacks on Wilson. Tim Russert is a hack when he throws softball questions at high government officials like Donald Rumsfeld, while mercilessly bullying the few antiwar figures he allows on his show such as Dennis Kucinich. Bob Woodward was a hero for his role in Watergate. He was a shameless opportunist when, in return for access to inside information, he portrayed President Bush as an in-charge leader in "Bush at War" -- a portrait that was convincingly debunked by Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill, who had actual knowledge of our clueless, disengaged and in-over-his-head president. No one symbolizes the dilemma of establishment journalism more than Ted Koppel, one of America's most honorable and well-respected journalists -- and an unusually decent human being as well. Koppel has done an admirable job for 25 years now of providing in-depth, original and creative coverage of world events from his perch at "Nightline." His job, however, has required maintaining the goodwill of the powerful -- a fact most dramatically illustrated by his 30-plus-year friendship with Henry Kissinger, which continues to the present day. Ted Koppel knew firsthand about Kissinger's war crimes in Indochina. But even this decent man felt he had to turn a blind eye to Kissinger's actions to maintain his powerful position. It is a dramatic illustration of how the incestuous relationship between major journalists and government officials is one of the key structural and fundamental flaws in both our media and democracy. More... Posted by: Pat C on November 24, 2005 03:50 AMhttp://salon.com/opinion/blumenthal/2005/11/24/cheney/print.html The long march of Dick Cheney For his entire career, he sought untrammeled power. The Bush presidency and 9/11 finally gave it to him -- and he's not about to give it up. Nov. 24, 2005 | The hallmark of the Dick Cheney administration is its illegitimacy. Its essential method is bypassing established lines of authority; its goal is the concentration of unaccountable presidential power. When it matters, the regular operations of the CIA, Defense Department and State Department have been sidelined. Richard Nixon is the model, but with modifications. In the Nixon administration, the president was the prime mover, present at the creation of his own options, attentive to detail, and conscious of their consequences. In the Cheney administration, the president is volatile but passive, firm but malleable, presiding but absent. Once his complicity has been arranged, a closely held "cabal" -- as Lawrence Wilkerson, once chief of staff to former Secretary of State Colin Powell, calls it -- wields control. Within the White House, the office of the vice president is the strategic center. The National Security Council has been demoted to enabler and implementer. Systems of off-line operations have been laid to evade professional analysis and a responsible chain of command. Those who attempt to fulfill their duties in the old ways have been humiliated when necessary, fired, retired early or shunted aside. In their place, acolytes and careerists indistinguishable from true believers in their eagerness have been elevated. The collapse of sections of the façade shielding Cheney from public view has not inhibited him..... More.... Posted by: Pat C on November 24, 2005 03:53 AMSlightly off topic, but in line with Beasleys comment above; thanks for the pat on the back to all of us! Maine Explores Cheap Oil Deal With Venezuela Pat C, Leno's joke about Rapper 50 Cent left me rolling off my chair. I don't know about the mass of African/Americans, but among the ones I do know across this country, I would say Leno is right. I cannot get over the fact that we are watching the incredible shrinking presidency. Scroll down on Brad Blog, past Mr. Ney's pathetic problems as Mr. Scanlon has thrown him under a bus, and read the info on the voting in Ohio. As I said at last year's election, "Ohio isn't done." In fact, after the 1st of the year, when transiting Uranus conj. Ohio's Sun and inconjuncts Ohio's Uranus, they won't know what to do as chaos begins raining in huge drops on that once great political state. Posted by: Sally on November 24, 2005 04:30 AMLaurie - Thanks for posting the Gulf War 2 chart. I had overlooked one of the most important aspects coming up. Uranus will be on the Ascendant of that chart in May and June, exactly when Saturn makes its final pass of Bush's Ascendant, Mercury and Pluto!! This is huge. Everything will change about the war then. A sudden, huge reversal. The station of Uranus is 2 minutes from the Gulf War Ascendant.The transit of May and June is very tight. Posted by: Nancy on November 24, 2005 05:11 AMSally commedians are such accurate barometers. They are better than polls, not only for public opinion, but for what the powers that be want the public to think. There's a wonderful poster on Salon who has been collecting comedy for a while now. I can't wait to see what he's collected every day. It's my best chance to laugh!! Posted by: Pat C on November 24, 2005 05:51 AMI should claify that I mean commedians like Leno in particular. Posted by: Pat C on November 24, 2005 05:56 AMAnd Uranus is liberation, Nancy. I think everybody's ready for that. Posted by: jm on November 24, 2005 06:09 AMI've always thought this country has been great at political satire. I was raised on it, and I haven't noticed any lull at all. Posted by: jm on November 24, 2005 06:12 AMA lawsuit wants the Bush administration to explain why it denied entry to intellectuals who've criticized US policy. Hi Nancy Was delighted to discover your blog online. I've always enjoyed your superb insights and well written articles. In your most recent article on this website: Struggling into the New Iraq; I found your comments on the Mar/Saturn square in sesquiquadrate to Pluto to be of special interest. As you suggest, the potential for conflict is there. I would surmise, Iran (DOB 2/1/79) will most likely be in the cross-hairs with its Mars/Sun natal midpoint at 10 Leo in sesqui-square to its natal MC/Venus at 25 Sag in identical position to all three violent transits(Mars/Saturn/Pluto) could create a firestorm. Regarding the Dec. 22nd Winter solstice's Sun at 0 Cap in semisquare to Neptune (15 Aq.).... Do you feel this transit has the potential to spark another terrorist attack on US soil? Some reputable astrologers feel the Moon/Mars opposition in the 9/11/01 terrorist attack chart that activated the June 21, 2001 Solar Eclipse - in square to the US midheaven may have been a major factor in the attacks. - Jerry Posted by: Jerry on November 24, 2005 10:53 AMA joyous Thanksgiving to everyone! Posted by: jm on November 24, 2005 01:59 PMHey Jerry! Though i'm a dabbler, i'm not an astrologer. However, there is anecdotal evidence to support another attack on US soil. See above link to the Energy Bulletin. This article is only one of several that hints at possible conflicts with Iran. This is problematic, for several reasons not the least of which is Iran's own healthy military, it's growing commeraderie with Russia and China. Then, of course, their height of audacity -- pegging their currency to the Euro and creating their own commodities market -- has the artistocracy foaming at the mouth. More this morning. Here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-5436256,00.html I expect this to heat up considerably prior to March. Now, on to something more upbeat. . . karen Posted by: karen on November 24, 2005 02:10 PMGood morning Astroworld! May the day embrace you with gratitude, giving and outreaching. I send my love and best thoughts to Sally, and all of the best hearts and minds who reside here on Astroworld. Walk in beauty. Posted by: Pat C on November 24, 2005 02:31 PMPoll Shock By Robert C. Koehler Tribune Media Services One of the most wildly inaccurate pre-election polls in memory, which was off by over 40 points on some predictions, may prove to be deadly accurate as an indicator of the problems we face as a nation with our voting process - and democracy itself. But you won't learn this by reading the Columbus Dispatch, the newspaper that conducted the poll just prior to Ohio's Nov. 8 election. The paper's public affairs editor conceded to me that the poll results the Dispatch wrote about, wrongly indicating massive public support for several proposed constitutional amendments, were, in essence, the journalistic equivalent of the explosion of the space shuttle Challenger. ... The story is about how America votes, and evidence that pandemic chaos and perhaps even centrally orchestrated malfeasance are accompanying the spread of electronic voting machines to the nation's precincts. http://www.tmsfeatures.com/tmsfeatures/subcategory.jsp?custid=67&catid=1824 May The Truth Prevail. Posted by: Pat C on November 24, 2005 02:54 PMHappy Thanksgiving Everyone. We may, from this Thanksgiving to the next, be able to save this country. The turkey may be a little dry and the rolls may get burned along the way but the dessert will be good and more than make-up for the dreadful meal we've been served over the last five years. And especial thanks to you Sally,and Nancy and Morgana et all for the take-out meals you been serving up, the only sustinence we could get. Posted by: M. on November 24, 2005 03:57 PMIn the spirit of the day, I give thanks for these wonderful astrological articles crafted together by masterful astrologers and darn good writers! ...for the comradery, and the love, support, wisdom, wit and intellect that exists on this board, to Sally for creating and coordinating it all, and, to the Creator/Universal Intelligence for 1) bringing us all together here as well as giving us the free will and intelligence to choose to come together here and with whomever else we join with My cousin is a spiritual student and meditator who began doing this at age 70 or so. I asked her what she was doing today and she said - "Nothing, just spending it being Thankful." She recently had a long bout with sciatica and she's usually in perfect health and painfree. She was struggling with it until she saw a TV special about a guy who was paralyzed. She then realized that the pain meant she had feeling in her body! So, let's give thanks for all our organs, talents, skills, seemingly mundane abilities and things in our life, remembering the miracle of creation that is creating them NOW and the miracle of free will that allows us to make choices! Love you all, have a great day Sharon Posted by: Sharon on November 24, 2005 05:28 PMHappy Thanksgiving, All. This year's holiday seems more hopeful than last year's, doesn't it? Here is my thought for the day, which has been said more eloquently by others, but still is worth thinking about: In the West and Japan and a few other places, Nationalism replaced Feudalism. The United States never experienced Feudalism (except sort-of, in the South.) And, of course, Feudalism still exists in the mid-East and maybe some other places. But for those who are 40+ now, and for our parents and grandparents, it used to look like Nationalism was the permanent, natural state of things. Now it looks like Nationalism is being replaced with international Corporatism. Ooops, we're all about to be serfs again--this time not even for a local Leige Lord. And forget Nobless Oblige, which was dependent on whim, anyway. Our best bet, it seems to me, is to take over our government(s) and make it/them into strong Citizens' Unions. It looks like the Europeans are doing better at that than we are. A lot of US citizens are still inhaling the "free enterprise" pipe-dream, i.e. Mom & Pop could make it against WalMart, if they really tried. Posted by: Barb on November 24, 2005 05:56 PMHAPPY THANKSGIVING EVERYONE!!!!! There is much to disturb our "thankfulness" this day, but there is equally as much to be thankful for this day and I hope we all find those "thankful" things. It is always good to remember the "thankful" things and today gives us that chance. Posted by: Sally on November 24, 2005 08:15 PMPoll: Do you believe Smirky talked about bombing Al-Jazeera? http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/11/24/jazeera.protest/ I'm thankful for the basics.... Oxygen, plenty of food and water, a beautiful shelter, warmth, and socks with little turtles on them for my feet in the winter. And for you. Posted by: jm on November 25, 2005 12:48 AM
Stay the course man... http://www.sfgate.com/comics/fiore/ Posted by: wv on November 25, 2005 01:52 AMDitto with jm's lovely message... only my socks don't get to have any turtles on 'em. Wish I had your socks, Missy! ;O) Bright Blessings everyone!! Posted by: JoannaOregon on November 25, 2005 03:50 AMJerry - I am quite concerned about the Winter Solstice chart coming up. The Mars/Saturn/Pluto aspect is triggered by transiting Mars from the 22nd to the 27th as it makes its exact aaspect to natal Saturn, then by Saturn moving to its exact aspect to natal Mars through January 10. The most dangerous times all month are when the Moon is at 10 fixed or at 24 mutable. And the most dangerous time within the above framework at the end of the month is on 12/26 from late AM through about 5 PM EST . I think that period has the potential of an attack with the Saturn Mars energy following through January 10 indicating sorrow and upset. These are also the final days of the progressed US Venus square to Saturn. So if I had to pick a time of potential for danger, I would say around Christmas, especially the 26th. I would also say that if there is an attack, it does not look like anything of the scale of 9/11. And of course, an attack can also be anywhere in the world on US property or relating to Iraq. I do see this period as quite dangerous one way or another that will upset Americans, but the actual event is impossible to predict. Posted by: Nancy on November 25, 2005 04:05 AMIn this little lull, I thought I'd throw in some ideas about this nation and its upcoming Mars retrograde by progression. Many people caution against getting things fixed under a retrograde, but I do the exact opposite. I always take in my car for repairs under Mercury retrograde, not even consciously. It's just the right time. Forward motion comes to a halt and the time and space open up for reworking, redoing, repairing, reviewing, retrieving, etc. So as Mars goes retro for the next 70 some years, we can stop the forward motion and take a long look at our Mars. Mars is our self defense and our action principle...the hunt... how we actively pursue what we desire. How we fight. I think the retro will be a time to go to another level of understanding about how to best utilize this energy. Mars in Gemini is mental and all about language and articulation. When our country was born, the outstanding characteristic was our articulation of governmental principles, with new and bold ideas(Mars). We have a rich history of eloquent expression and we still quote our written decrees constantly. We express our dissatisfaction and rage verbally as we have done so completely on the Internet in these last years. In fact, I think it has worked better than protest in the streets. Now I think we will see many years of debate about our governmental principles and our role in the world, and I think the voice of protest from the people will keep developing along these lines. Especially if we sense that the downfall of this corrupt administration was affected by our continuous verbal output and our own intelligent investigation and scrutiny. I think we've done well with the Pluto transit of our Mars that just occurred. The close square to Neptune is very significant. It's not a direct aggression, pitting itself against an obstacle like Mars/Saturn would be but a more obtuse and convoluted path..hiding, waiting, sidestepping, disappearing, and things like that. Not direct brutal force. And the fantasy element is always there. This is something I posted about this aspect: "Americans have been reluctant to go to war and I think the picture of the USA as a military superpower is entirely an illusion built up after the heroic elevation of the US as a result of WWII. Our exceptionalism has been based on a lot of nonsense...Mickey Mouse cartoons, hip hop, whatever. A lot of fantasy, and the promise of its fulfillment from others' point of view. Even when people have their own democracies, they want our identity. So I think we are largely about an invitation to fulfill dreams, not brutal military conquest. Not to underplay the brutal economic manipulation and resulting violence that have been such a large part of our greed. More of the sneaky Neptune approach." So I think the fantasy of our military might could come to an end. You never know, though, as the charging hero/ savior could continue but not without a buildup of military strength, which would take some time. There is also the possibility of civil war as Mars turns inward, but one of the tragedies this country hasn't forgotten, is the great Civil War. It was awful. If the Sagittarius chart is right, with Neptune elevated, then the world has illusions about us. So we can be anything to them. They've seen us as a White Knight but now that cover is blown. This would be a great time to adjust our Martial thrust to fit our natural tendencies. The failure in Iraq has revealed completely our ineptness at this kind of aggression. We have shown a weak hand and will have to rebuild closer to ourselves. And that takes us always to the Gemini. Also, if the packed seventh house is right, together with Saturn in Libra, we need successful egalitarian relationships. Posted by: jm on November 25, 2005 06:19 AMCNN: Do you plan to go shopping Friday? http://www.cnn.com/ Posted by: JoannaOregon on November 25, 2005 06:31 AMI plan to go shopping for brown rice, Joanna, but I doubt if CNN gives a fart about that! Posted by: jm on November 25, 2005 06:40 AMHi Nancy, Thanks for the feedback. Your suggestion that Dec. 26th may be the most likely time for a violent eruption of some sort, happens to coincide with my date of departure from Bombay, India back to the States. A very sobering thought indeed! I guess I shall have to be prepared for some 'turbulence' on my return flight back home. Can you clarify the statement you made 'I would also say that if there is an attack, it does not look like anything of the scale of 9/11.'? I mention December 22nd, as there have been a a number of psychic predictions indicating the 22nd to be the date of a major US terrorist attack. The Winter Solstice cardinal degree at 0 Capricorn of Dec 22nd in semi-square to Neptune may warrant deeper analysis, as there is a similarity to the Moon-Mars opposition of 9/11 straddling the 0 Cancer/Capricorn cardinal degrees (this as previously mentioned activated the powerful 6/21/01 Cancer solar eclipse). Some astrologers contend this was the trigger for the 9/11 attacks. The Moon/Mars opposition of 9/11/01 and the Sun/Neptune semi-square of 12/22/05 in cardinal degrees are both in hard aspect to the fixed grand cross square of the August 11th, '99 solar eclipse and to the fixed grand cross square of late December. Posted by: Jerry on November 25, 2005 11:37 AMRepairs definitely fall under retrograde. Repairs involve correcting an existing deficiency that usually started when Mercury was direct, so that's appropriate. Just don't have your auto detailed during Mercury retrograde, as that is definitely a new situation, and also an elective one. Nancy: December 26th is chilling. That's the day that many malls are open for returns and the after-Christmas sales. While many businesses that aren't retail are taking the 26th off since Christmas is on a Sunday, that's not true for retail. It's also going to be a big day for travel, as it's a Monday, and not as many people can take off the full week for vacation. So many will be commuting back so they can arrive at work on Tuesday. But for some reason ever since I first read about that troubling Winter Solstice, I've felt that disaster was more likely weather-related. Freak snowstorms over places that get little snow? Artic-like cold for several days on end, freezing the country all the way down to near Mexico? No cold, but tsusami-like rain? Who knows, but weather can incorporate other disasters very well. Posted by: Carol on November 25, 2005 11:48 AMHopefully Jerry is safe on his flight home from Bombay. JM Shopping? in a rash moment i've agreed to a trip to San Diego today and will stop in to IKEA for Glogg the spicy swedish winter drink that warms to the toes - and chases early colds symptoms away. It's the time of year i love being swenska even though southern california fails on the winter scene. Posted by: tseka on November 25, 2005 01:46 PMsvenska ha typing in the dark so i can watch the stars slip away...but i have to at least fix that spelling error Posted by: tseka on November 25, 2005 01:49 PMWhat happened at Walmart in Orlando, Pat? Happy day after Thanksgiving, all. Love --- Posted by: Sharon on November 25, 2005 03:26 PMFor some inexplicable reason this morning, I woke up feeling comforted, happy & with well-being. Mebbe something really startlingly lovely is about to happen within our World... which is really the only thing that would move me away from my usual cantankerous self. ;O) ...besides which I love the exquisite beauty & solemnity of the Winter Sostice season energies. Posted by: JoannaOregon on November 25, 2005 03:36 PMSharon, Secret British document accuses Israel Chris McGreal in Jerusalem Guardian A confidential Foreign Office document accuses Israel of rushing to annex the Arab area of Jerusalem, using illegal Jewish settlement construction and the vast West Bank barrier, in a move to prevent it becoming a Palestinian capital. http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,5341352-103552,00.html Posted by: wv on November 25, 2005 04:33 PM
By Michael Kinsley "One might also argue," Vice President Cheney said in a speech on Monday, "that untruthful charges against the commander in chief have an insidious effect on the war effort." That would certainly be an ugly and demagogic argument, were one to make it. After all, if untruthful charges against the president hurt the war effort (by undermining public support and soldiers' morale), then those charges will hurt the war effort even more if they happen to be true. So one would be saying in effect that any criticism of the president is essentially treason. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/24/AR2005112400477_pf.html Posted by: wv on November 25, 2005 05:08 PMHi All, Bev, the irony is that those laptops would probably be just as cheap a year from now-at a time when nobody is paying attention. I bought my computer (after years of WebTV-I still have the box, but don't use it all that much anymore except for e-mail) from someone who repairs computers for a living. The whole thing (including speakers and a monitor)was 5 years old and cost me all of $200. It was just that someone dropped it off for repair and never came back promptly for it. Same thing I've found at places most people don't really remember to look: outlet places, pawnshops, friends who upgrade or outgrow stuff. You don't need to go to the mall and fight the hordes with a little creativity. And beyond that, what ever happened to handmade and homemade Christmas gifts? When I was a very small kid, people still gave stockings full of candy or knitted stuff. I might have been the first kid to get really fancy stuff for Xmas in my family. I don't totally discount some terrorist fear (more likely crime fear) even with the weather intution. Bad weather packs people in closer, as people swarm to get things done before the mall closes, the snow falls, and the emergency declaration takes hold. And being stuck in an airport in limbo due to the holiday? I've always have been surprised that there hasn't been more friction than a general sense of grumpiness. True, most people know that there's nothing anyone could do except wait, but it could be the last straw to someone unstable. Posted by: Carol on November 25, 2005 06:24 PMAnd here's another perspective on the shopping frenzy, from the Free Republic.
http://www.trufax.org/general/wakingup.html Posted by: wv on November 25, 2005 08:11 PMCarol, Pat QOP, and Others,
Unforgivable All of the Bush administration's junkyard dogs are out on the attack, feigning righteous indignation that anyone would suggest that they manipulated the intelligence and misled the American people. Of course, that is exactly what they did, and a majority of Americans are finally catching on. That doesn't absolve Congress from lazily going along and giving the president the OK to get American boys killed. The question is, Did the president do it deliberately, or was he just so intent on going to war that his mind automatically cherry-picked the conflicting information? We might never know. The vice president made multiple trips to the CIA headquarters to "talk" to the analysts. When one veteran CIA man was asked if that was unusual, he said: "No, it's not unusual. It's unique. I've been here 28 years, and it's the first time." Let me give you a quote from Tom Friedman, columnist for The New York Times. He's quoted by Scott McConnell in an article that appears in the American Conservative magazine: "It's the war the neoconservatives marketed. Those people had an idea to sell when September 11 came, and they sold it. Oh boy, did they sell it. So this is not a war that the masses demanded. This is a war of an elite. ... I could give you the names of 25 people (all of whom are at this moment within a five-block radius of this office) who, if you had exiled them to a desert island a year and a half ago, the Iraq war would not have happened," Friedman said. Perhaps that's true. After all, we do live in a media world. Please note that Friedman, a Jewish liberal, designated the war peddlers as neoconservatives. That was his choice of words. When the Baghdad adventure began to go south, some of the neoconservatives, to take the heat off, claimed that people who used the word "neoconservative" really meant "Jews" and were anti-Semites. Friedman can hardly be called that. The president is calling his Democratic critics revisionists. That, by the way, is another loaded propaganda term, since in today's world it is most often used to describe people who deny or question the details of the Holocaust. Well, the Democrats are not trying to rewrite history; they're just trying to get the president to fess up that he played fast and loose with the truth. What the war sellers did was not make stuff up out of whole cloth; they just distorted the evidence and ignored all the doubts the intelligence community was expressing. Aluminum tubes, for example, were cited as evidence of Iraq's nuclear program, but the president and his crowd knew that (1) the State Department intelligence people didn't believe they were nuclear-related; and (2) the U.N. nuclear experts said they definitely were not suitable for nuclear work. But Vice President Dick Cheney goes on national television and says, grim-faced, "There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein has reconstituted his nuclear-weapons program and is amassing weapons of mass destruction," etc. and so forth. They are telling still another whopper when they claim that "everyone agreed there were weapons." No, the French, Russians, Chinese and Germans didn't agree. That's why they refused to give Bush the war resolution he and his British lap dog lobbied so hard to get. When German intelligence told the Bush administration they thought one of the so-called defectors was a loony, the administration ignored German intelligence and passed the defector's information on as fact. The administration set up a special organization in the Defense Department to short-circuit both the CIA and the Defense Intelligence Agency. An Air Force colonel who worked in that office has blown the whistle on the operation. It's a bad thing to lie about anything. It's bad to lie under oath. It's bad to have sex in the Oval Office. But, in a rational society, it ought to be considered unforgivable to mislead the American people into a war. More than 2,000 young Americans have died in the springtime of their lives, and another 13,000 will carry wounds and scars into what's left of their futures. And for what? Let's review: There is no doubt Saddam Hussein was not trying to build nuclear weapons; he did not possess and was not amassing any other weapons of mass destruction; he had no connection with al-Qaida and was not involved in the attacks against New York and Washington. What he was was a half-mad bloody tyrant writing romance novels and building palaces and monuments to himself. He was not a threat to the U.S. As you can see from my comments I am still on the poverty issue. "For Those Who Have Lost Everything" * Violence against women is global - Wife beating & sexual violence against women are "common, widespread & far-reaching," says a World Health Organization report released Thur. http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2005-11-24-violence-women-global_x.htm * One in 6 women suffers from domestic violence -WHO - LONDON, Nov 24 (Reuters) - One woman lost twins after being hit in the stomach by the father of her unborn babies, another sleeps in a locked bedroom to protect herself from the partner who has threatened to shoot her. They are among the one in 6 women worldwide who suffer from domestic violence. In some communities up to 2 in 3 females have been harmed by their husband, live-in partner or boyfriend, according to a World Health Organisation (WHO) study. http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L1898435.htm * According to WHO report domestic violence is ubiquitous - A World Health Organization report released Thur said that wife beating & sexual violence against women are "common, widespread & far-reaching" the world over. "WHO Multi-country Study on Women's Health & Domestic Violence Against Women" reports findings of study where in 24,000 women in 10 countries were surveyed. The percentage of women sexually or physically abused is the highest in rural Ethiopia where at least 71% are victims of either one or both. http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/4529.html "Can you clarify the statement you made 'I would also say that if there is an attack, it does not look like anything of the scale of 9/11.'?" Jerry - 9/11 happened during the Pluto Saturn opposition on the US Ascendant. Pluto was still waxing for over two weeks, and Saturn stayed nearby for two months and was not fully gone for 7 months. This was the national response to 9/11, months of emotional turmoil (Saturn), and in the immediate aftermath, two weeks of jumping at the sound of every plane or loud noise (Plutonian paranoia). I see nothing comparable in December or anytime soon at all. If there even is an attack in December, which is only a possiblity not a likelihood, the stressful aftermath seems to go until around January 10. I made the above statement thinking that a far smaller event or events than 9/11 could leave people upset or grieving for a few weeks (other than those directly involved of course). It is all really conjucture and could have nothing whatsoever to do with terrorism but be some kind of natural disaster or accident or other unfortunate occurence. But the point is I don't see a long painful aftermath like we had in 9/11 which I feel suggests a proportionately smaller upset we are dealing with. Posted by: Nancy on November 26, 2005 02:04 AMSo Nancy, it looks like a short, acute somtething that resonates throughout the nation? Someone's passing sounds like that would be an event that would be short, with the funeral more than likely being the resonance. Or some disaster that takes place in a few minutes but takes days to clean up and sort out. What an awful Xmas/Solstice we have in store for us. It looks like the days for spiked egg-nog are upon us, along with a chaser of that champagne we were supposedly saving up for New Year's as well. Posted by: Carol on November 26, 2005 02:41 AMHere's another one to add to your list, JoannaO: Misogyny is a terrible hatred. Posted by: shylurker on November 26, 2005 03:59 AMHi Nancy, I thoroughly appreciate the dialogue. It's a wonderful way to explore the astrological trends in relation to current events. I'm glad you brought up the significance of the Saturn/Pluto opposition of 2001/'02, as it directly ties in to a pet theory of mine. Noted astrologer Robert Blaschke had expressed an emphasis on the Saturn/Pluto midpoint as a way of determining future trends. The 12/22 Capricorn ingress chart’s Saturn/Pluto midpoint at 17 ’30 Libra is within one degree of conjoining the US Stationary Retrograde Progressed Mars (18 ’42 Libra). Stationary progressions especially one of this magnitude for the US chart usually experiences maximum stress before exactness (US Sibly chart - exact June ’06). The Mars/Saturn square in sesqui-square to Pluto in late December could conceivably bring things to a head in my estimation. But I may be wrong. I’m not fully conversant enough with astrology to know the subtleties of how this all works. George W. Bush’s natal Jupiter (denoting transition or death) is also located at 18 Libra (natal Moon at 16 ‘42 Libra and n. Chiron the Wounded Healer’ at 15 ’25 Libra). Meanwhile, EUROCONTROL, the system that monitors all flights over European airspace is having its records throughly checked and matched against European satellite intelligence photos of airfields and nearby prison sites. There is also the possibility that European law enforcement personnel could, if they discover the presence of secret prisons, storm them by force to free prisoners held by U.S. and contractor personnel. Much more about torture flights, they've been busy while we were eating turkey! http://waynemadsenreport.com/ Yea, verily... the wargeezer by name is literally insane. Posted by: JoannaOregon on November 26, 2005 05:49 AMIf there any skeptical lurkers out there or anyone looking for proof of astrology, here it is!
Prosecutors in the department's public integrity and fraud divisions are looking into Abramoff's dealings with four Republicans -- former House of Representatives Majority Leader Tom DeLay of Texas, Rep. Bob Ney of Ohio, Rep. John Doolittle of California and Sen. Conrad Burns of Montana, the paper said, citing several people close to the investigation. Posted by: wv on November 26, 2005 01:57 PM
Posted November 23rd, 2005 at 6:32 am by Jon But now Nofziger is speaking out - in the ultra-rightwing Washington Times (www.washtimes.com) - on the current state of affairs in the GOP, and what he has to say is not pretty: http://www.pensitoreview.com/2005/11/23/reagan-advisor-criticizes-republicans/ Posted by: wv on November 26, 2005 02:28 PM
By Robin Wright BAGHDAD -- Five months after the fall of Baghdad, I went to Iraq with Colin Powell. It was the first visit by a secretary of state in half a century, and although he moved under heavy security, there was an optimistic, forward-looking feel to the trip. Much has changed about Iraq in the intervening two years. And visits by America's secretary of state -- first Powell, then Condoleezza Rice -- have proved to be a microcosm of America's intervention here. On our first trip, in mid-September 2003, the State Department entourage and diplomatic press corps stayed for two full nights at the legendary al Rashid Hotel, the high-rise once heavily bugged by Saddam Hussein's security goons. Iraqi vendors in the hotel arcade sold military paraphernalia and souvenirs from the old regime. Medals that Hussein once bestowed on his troops went for 10 bucks -- or less, if you bargained enough. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/24/AR2005112401051_pf.html Posted by: wv on November 26, 2005 02:42 PMHere's another one, in case you might have missed it, JoannaO. Female genital mutilation is on the rise. How can men hate females so bitterly and be so ruthless and cruel? Just posted over at americablog.org. Smirky's approval rating, according to Faux, has now hit 28%. Anybody got some caramel coated popcorn to share? Posted by: shylurker on November 26, 2005 05:48 PMShylurker, I do! And it's the kind with nuts and a prize as well, a homemade kind made in the store. And speaking of popcorn moments, whenever the going gets rough Shrub has always run away to another committment. If the approval rating gets low enough, would Shrub just up and say "I quit!?" Posted by: Carol on November 26, 2005 07:30 PMWhat's the solution to this type of primitive belief that it's ok to hurt and/or control women, like property? People like that probably think it's also ok to hurt children and animals. ...and they teach their children to have the same beliefs. Some of them don't buy it, but it's the type of thing resorted to as a result of self-hate or dissapointment + the belief that theh women and children are theirs, they belong to them (it also happens in reverse when women are the possessors). How do we rid the world of this type of belief and behavior? Education and spirituality is possible but we know how resistent people are to change, especially when pride and machismo are present. Posted by: Sharon on November 26, 2005 07:32 PMIt is rather hard to tell at this point if the "Al Jazerra ing leak" (alleged as Bush's suggestion to do so) will expand enough to go anywhere. I hope it does. The staffers there have established a new blog and would like everyone to link and spread the word. Be sure to read Robert Fisk's description of a missle being deliberately aimed at Al Jazeera'a building in which their journalist was killed. Sharon, Beverly, Your welcome Pat QOP - it's an interesting site. I despair, Beverly, that enuff of the Repugs could ever support impeachment. 'Course with an unknown number of them awaiting indictment for this or that, mebbe there won't be enough around to stop it. Here's a wonderful link. Enjoy:
Juan Cole is Professor of History at the University of Michigan
Iraqi Guerrillas Made Key Demands of CIA at Cairo Conference
Iraqi guerrilla groups such as "The Islamic Army," "The Bloc of Holy Warriors," and "The Revolution of 1920 Brigades" conveyed their conditions behind the scenes. (Despite the Islamist names of these groups, they are probably mostly neo-Baathist.) Among their demands are 1) working to end the foreign occupation, 2) compensation to the Iraqis for the damages arising from the American invasion; 3) the release of prisoners; and 4) building political and military institutions that are not subservient to American and regional influence. Posted by: wv on November 27, 2005 02:16 AMWe have got to get this kind of movement going here. Astrologers, what are the chances of our overcoming this horrible scourge? Could this be what the US Progressed Mars turning Retrograde is leading up to? -- Pentagon Expanding Its Domestic Surveillance Activity The Defense Department has expanded its programs aimed at gathering and analyzing intelligence within the United States, creating new agencies, adding personnel and seeking additional legal authority for domestic security activities in the post-9/11 world. The moves have taken place on several fronts. The White House is considering expanding the power of a little-known Pentagon agency called the Counterintelligence Field Activity, or CIFA, which was created three years ago. The proposal, made by a presidential commission, would transform CIFA from an office that coordinates Pentagon security efforts -- including protecting military facilities from attack -- to one that also has authority to investigate crimes within the United States such as treason, foreign or terrorist sabotage or even economic espionage. The Pentagon has pushed legislation on Capitol Hill that would create an intelligence exception to the Privacy Act, allowing the FBI and others to share information gathered about U.S. citizens with the Pentagon, CIA and other intelligence agencies, as long as the data is deemed to be related to foreign intelligence. Backers say the measure is needed to strengthen investigations into terrorism or weapons of mass destruction. Kate Martin, director of the Center for National Security Studies, said the data-sharing amendment would still give the Pentagon much greater access to the FBI's massive collection of data, including information on citizens not connected to terrorism or espionage. The measure, she said, "removes one of the few existing privacy protections against the creation of secret dossiers on Americans by government intelligence agencies." She said the Pentagon's "intelligence agencies are quietly expanding their domestic presence without any public debate." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/26/AR2005112600857.html Posted by: NEOBuckeye on November 27, 2005 10:04 AMMaybe, NEO. Gemini rules information gathering. One thing I love about astrology is its ability to diminsh fear. Even when bad things happen, astrology can teach us why they happen and what can be gained from all the experiences. And that things happen for good reason. I always thought the War on Terror actually would be a good thing if it really accomplished the conquering of that kind of fear. I used it for that, anyway. I just had years of Pluto in my eighth house only to emerge and conjunct the most powerful part of my chart. I still have a few years to go. I lost almost everything external, lots of crisis, but now the replacements are showing up. And I still have my health, talent, and sense of humor. And the feeling that I've bought some good time. I attribute the maintenance of equanimity through this to my knowledge of astrology. Things just made sense. It's good to be aware of the future, but too much fear can go against the ability to handle what comes. If you look back, people have always been afraid of catastrophe, attacks, weather calamities, and economic collapse. And those things keep happening. But here we are alive and kicking. We must be doing something right. Posted by: jm on November 27, 2005 11:32 AMHahahaaa! Human Becomings "Muddle," jm, thru Stuff. One of my fave authors, Harris Owen made that marvelous point in his fine book, "The Practice of Peace." It really stuck in my consciousness. Posted by: JoannaOregon on November 27, 2005 03:32 PMI think "Muddle" is a most prominent & profound spiritual practice. ;O) Posted by: JoannaOregon on November 27, 2005 03:34 PMRamsey Clark has just arrived in Baghdad, to join the defense team for Saddam Hussein! http://www.papersplease.org/davis/facts.html The new Rosa Parks? read the whole thing including the links regarding her case. The Federal Center is huge and buses and cars often times have to cross the uninhabited land to get to their destination. Major thoroughfares cut through the corner of their land. There are no buildings or facilities around those streets. The property sits on Kipling (a major road) in the middle of Lakewood (a street) across the street from the federal property is a high school, grade school and football field. On the other side is a strip mall and some old office buildings. That's very worrisome. Wow! This one has been out for a while too. Pentagon Expanding Its Domestic Surveillance Activity http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/112705X.shtml The Defense Department has expanded its programs aimed at gathering and analyzing intelligence within the United States, creating new agencies, adding personnel and seeking additional legal authority for domestic security activities in the post-9/11 world. Posted by: Pat C on November 27, 2005 10:04 PMYay Joanna! You always put it so well in your singular way. Posted by: jm on November 27, 2005 11:03 PM
Dishonest, Reprehensible, Corrupt ... Sunday 27 November 2005 George W. Bush is so desperate for allies that his hapless Asian tour took him to Ulan Bator, a first for an American president, so he could mingle with the yaks and give personal thanks for Mongolia's contribution of some 160 soldiers to "the coalition of the willing." Dick Cheney, whose honest-and-ethical poll number hit 29 percent in Newsweek's latest survey, is so radioactive that he vanished into his bunker for weeks at a time during the storms Katrina and Scootergate. The whole world can see that both men are on the run. Just how much so became clear in the brace of nasty broadsides each delivered this month about Iraq. Neither man engaged the national debate ignited by John Murtha about how our troops might be best redeployed in a recalibrated battle against Islamic radicalism. Neither offered a plan for "victory." Instead, both impugned their critics' patriotism and retreated into the past to defend the origins of the war. In a seasonally appropriate impersonation of the misanthropic Mr. Potter from "It's a Wonderful Life," the vice president went so far as to label critics of the administration's prewar smoke screen both "dishonest and reprehensible" and "corrupt and shameless." He sounded but one epithet away from a defibrillator. Posted by: wv on November 28, 2005 12:50 AM
By Silla Brush It's been two years now since federal investigators began trying to untangle the dealings of Washington uberlobbyist Jack Abramoff. But what was once a potential scandal looming over the horizon is now looking more ominous by the day. http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/051205/5abramoff.htm Posted by: wv on November 28, 2005 12:54 AM
from Tom DeLay... http://www.pcactionfund.org/delayspocket/dx_sv.htm Posted by: wv on November 28, 2005 01:02 AM
http://www.paulenglish.com/ivr/ Posted by: wv on November 28, 2005 01:44 AMBolton loses British backing for UN tactics By Philip Sherwell in Washington (Filed: 27/11/2005) Britain has angered John Bolton, America's combative ambassador to the United Nations, by breaking ranks with him over the need for reform. The rare public disagreement between the two close allies comes as the showdown over reforms at the UN's New York headquarters becomes increasingly acrimonious. Britain has rebuffed a Bolton move to join him in refusing to pass the organisation's 2006 budget until member states approve wide-ranging management reforms. To the irritation of Mr Bolton, many developing nations are bitterly opposed to changes that they claim are driven by American political pressure. He suggested last week that talks on the 2006 and 2007 budgets could be postponed as a means to overcome the trenchant resistance from the "G77" bloc of developing countries. He also threatened that the United States could seek an alternative to the UN for solving international problems in future. More Posted by: Pat C on November 28, 2005 05:01 AMHi Nancy, One last, quick follow-up question on the late December aspects..... Do you subscribe to the use of antiscion midpoints as a way of determining potential events? The WTC terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 with its Moon placement at 28 Gemini in opposition to Mars at 1 Capricorn formed an antiscion midpoint almost exactly at the crucial 0 degr. Cancer 6/21/01 solar eclipse degree. We may have a similar situation on December 22, '05 (5:43 am - the time of the exact Sun Neptune semi-square) with Mars at 9 '11 Taurus in opposition to Jupiter at 11 '41 Scorpio forming an exact antiscion midpoint at 10 '26 Taurus/Scorpio, precisely T-squaring Saturn at 10 '29 Leo. The Hiroshima atomic explosion chart of August 6, '45 has natal Pluto at 10 Leo. Iran with natal Mars and Sun at 9 and 11 Aquarius respectively, may be involved in this event if anything untoward should happen. Bush's natal Pluto at 10 '35 Leo is also deeply involved. Given the various aspects; is it reasonable to assume this may be related to some type confrontation resulting in a nuclear terrorist type attack on US soil for December 22nd? Posted by: Jerry on November 28, 2005 06:21 AMAs I have posted in previous threads....12/22 is of great concern to me. Now it looks like there is some validation. I hope my premonitions are wrong. But, with Fiendco and Friends falling apart, I see them as desperate men who will do ANYTHING to further their agenda. Be alert everyone! I have that same feeling I had before 911, but this time it's worse. Also, someone had posted something about death in B*s chart....Could it be they are setting him up to be a martyr of some sort? An "attack" during the holidays sure would whip the sheeple into a frenzy and help Fiendco and Friends regain their following. Cybear, i'll bet every single one of us has had the distinct feeling. . .given the series of rapidly occuring events. . .that this administration will attempt to "prove" their admonitions about terrorists and the need for The WAR on TERROR. Let's hope whatever dastardly plan they have up their sleeves will be aborted, or at least lessened. Given the closeted, close-doors nature of their discusssions, it's hard to know if a person of quality, of humanity, will be able to stop them. I'm quite certain, however, if this administration does pull some crap like the above, it will be their undoing. Let's hope it won't be the countrys'. The following link is about aspertame. . .another deadly horror/experiment perpetrated on unsuspecting victims. And guess what, Rumsfeld's fingerprints is all over this one too. http://www.rense.com/general68/aspp.htm Make that Rumsfeld's fingerprints ARE all over this. :) Posted by: karen on November 28, 2005 02:16 PMOn their Home page, Democratic Underground has posted long excerpts from Seymore Hersh's current (12/05/05) New Yorker article re Bush's attitude toward the Iraq situation. http://www.democraticunderground.com Sounds to me like Bush is so religious that he's founded his own church--First Church of Megalomania. Posted by: Barbara on November 28, 2005 04:00 PMHA HAHAHAHAHA! Jerry...scary statistics....I don't know what anti scion points are, but the scenario makes me remember my premonitions of nuclear terror from years ago. But it is hard for me to believe that even these evil creatures could be that bad towards their own country. Others, yes....but their own? Don't even want to contemplate that evil. Did anyone see and read the story about the Col who 'suicided' in June...the psych docs said he was 'too rigid' in his idealogy ...that he took too seriously the military tradition of death before dishonor and could't deal with the overwhelming profit motives of the Iraq war contractor mentalities. So now, it seems, if you have a belief like 'death before dishonor' you are too rigid....which pretty much tells you why we have the mediocre types in charge that we have...whose philosophies can best be described as....loose. Milo Minderbinder rules the world .... Speaking of the interesting/scary astrological aspects this December (including the solstice chart) remember Fitzgerald's birthday is Dec 21 or 22. Also, after Mercury and Mars go direct I expect things will do doubt start moving swiftly and then the Dec 15th full moon is in lively Gemini and opposite Pluto. Posted by: Barbara on November 28, 2005 06:23 PMThat should have been "no doubt start moving..." Posted by: Barbara on November 28, 2005 06:25 PMOh, how the mighty are falling--and what interesting company they keep. And here's another fallen repug, apparently dishonest in his own little world, without connection to Abramoff or Scanlon! http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=1352476 Meanwhile I saw on the news yesterday that Corzine may choose for his Senate replacement, a woman, who was asked to step down from the NJ State legislature for being "uncooperative = honest". Nia something or other. I also noticed on the CNN International Program today, that Venice has been working on a $2 b water gate construction, to keep the high tides out of the city. The engineer is a Woman! Don't worry, Pat QOP, as soon as some as NO has been cleaned up and some big wig land developer announces plans to build luxury condos and casinos money will magically appear for either levees what that can sustain a Catagory 5 hurricane or building up the land so that it's above sea level or both. Posted by: Roderick on November 28, 2005 08:04 PMhttp://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/112605B.shtml The Press: The Enemy Within Posted by: Pat C on November 28, 2005 09:20 PMI have a new essay up on CounterPunch: I am so overwhelmed with work this semester that I don't get time to even lurk much these days. I can't tell you how difficult this piece was to write, with Mercury retrograde and all...not only was it edited again and again and again, there were all sorts of software problems that came up in getting in online. Maybe I should have waited until Mercury was direct, but I really didn't have that option--though I cannot quite explain that here. Sometimes I wonder if its really worth it.... Actually I have to give Tom at Information Clearing House credit because he actually put it up first: I sent it to CounterPunch first, but Mercury retrograde got in the way.... Posted by: Timothy on November 28, 2005 10:31 PMTimothy, your article was wonderful! Thanks for posting it here. Posted by: Beverly on November 28, 2005 11:34 PMTimothy, Excellent work! Mercury may have "got in the way" but the end result is polished and fine. Thanks for sharing. Posted by: tseka on November 28, 2005 11:57 PMPatPOQ -- I see a very interesting form of symbolism for the stone falling off the facade and it is almost too much to bear! The chunk that fell off the Supreme Court fell from above the figure representing authority.... what a perfect comparison to the cracks opening up in this country's corrupt misuse of authority in the world....... Merriam's dictionary:
There is also the added irony that the Supreme Court started all this nonsense with their decision for their decision in the Bush/Gore election... Posted by: Kathleen on November 29, 2005 12:26 AMBefore that stone fell from the SC Building, they refused to hear the Sybil Edmonds whistleblower case. Interesting it came from "Authority" either it's falling for the US, as in there is no more authority, or sending a message to the authority now standing. Really great article Timothy. Your essays are so informative and well written. Thanks for sharing Posted by: Sally on November 29, 2005 12:53 AMhttp://www.therandirhodesshow.com/live/node/1674 UP IN THE AIR snip
“It’s a serious business,” retired Air Force General Charles Horner, who was in charge of allied bombing during the 1991 Gulf War, said. “The Air Force has always had concerns about people ordering air strikes who are not Air Force forward air controllers. We need people on active duty to think it out, and they will. There has to be training to be sure that somebody is not trying to get even with somebody else.” (Asked for a comment, the Pentagon spokesman said there were plans in place for such training. He also noted that Iraq had no offensive airpower of its own, and thus would have to rely on the United States for some time.) More.... Isn't Timothy something, though? I wait and wait to see a communication from him and, once he sends one, it's just splendid! I'm printing out the article for its richness in terms of compilation of evidence and, of course, sorting through the entire mess with keen logic and historical background. Many thanks, Timothy. Posted by: shylurker on November 29, 2005 01:01 AMPoll needs your help: http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20051128093909990029&ncid=NWS00010000000001 Posted by: shylurker on November 29, 2005 01:01 AMI got the distinct feeling that the appointment of Roberts as Chief Justice made a sham of the position and was already an indication of the loss of prestige and power. I would think Pluto in Cap would affect this crumbling institution. It's lost its separation which is inherent to its functioning with the effort to politicize it. Oh how I love these little signs..and the people who can read them. Posted by: jm on November 29, 2005 01:07 AMOh Timothy! Really well done Timothy! Posted by: Pat C on November 29, 2005 01:09 AMRegarding the Cunningham post above: http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/112805Q.shtml Moyers Has His Say Posted by: Pat C on November 29, 2005 01:24 AMPat QOP, are you going to post your reflection of the facade falling? I hope so. It would be fun to read. Can you add to your reflections, that the Building itself is representative of the body, anybody, like a house or car sometime represent the body. The body of the supreme court The spelling is cutting off words on this computer. Boy...I can't seem to find any reference to the facade of the sup court falling off....did this actually happen? when? Posted by: judi G on November 29, 2005 01:27 AMNo it's not....it's - Judi A chunk of marble fell from near the roof of the U.S. Supreme Court onto the stairs in the front of the building but no one was injured, a court spokeswoman said on Monday. Tho Pat POQ, Kathleen and Sally bring a smile to my lips as i read their take on this....little shifts everywhere. Posted by: tseka on November 29, 2005 02:16 AMAll day today has been Mimi's birthday. HAPPY BIRTHDAY MIMI!! o<]:o) Posted by: Pat C on November 29, 2005 02:54 AMDisturbing news. This could see a return of Conservative control and an about face for some of the Canadian policies of late, especially those that were oppositional to our current administration. Martin is pretty disliked by republicans and Bush. http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-5444191,00.html Happiest of days and may many follow Mimi! tseka, I just can't picture Mimi's party without hats...just can't happen. :-D Posted by: Pat C on November 29, 2005 03:06 AMTee hee. That fellow Wilkerson just will not stop. Such names he's calling Dick "Bunker" Cheney: Tseka..oh the irony of it all! Do you know the story of Jung and Freud? When Carl Jung was about to tell Freud he couldn't follow his ideas anymore and was going to start his own practice instead of being Freud's boy, the oak table they were at in Freud's library suddenly cracked down the middle with a huge 'crack'!!! The gods always make us smaile.... Posted by: judi G on November 29, 2005 03:24 AMInsanity now rules in Miami: Hi Cybear, Regarding your comment "As I have posted in previous threads....12/22 is of great concern to me."....... I couldn't find the relevant threads. Would you care to direct me to the area you're referring to, or simple copy and paste/ or summarize your 'premonitions' for us in this thread? Thanks. Posted by: Jerry on November 29, 2005 04:04 AMWell done Timothy! Happy Happy Birthday Mimi! Still reflecting on the crumbling facade...................to sleep perchance to dream.............. Jerry - Found it! I posted this on Oct.5... When I saw your earlier post I got a chill. These numbers/dates keep showing up.
Timothy, I'm very impressed with your article although I'm not patient enough to it in its entirety right now. Mimi, Happy Birthday and wishing you a year that is blessed with peace, love, abundance, health, prosperity, and lots of Jupiterian luck! As far as 12/22, friends, let's counteract this with prayers for peace on earth and surround our earth with soft, glowing, nurturing, loving white light. Posted by: Sharon on November 29, 2005 05:31 AMTimothy, I'm very impressed with your article although I'm not patient enough to it in its entirety right now. Mimi, Happy Birthday and wishing you a year that is blessed with peace, love, abundance, health, prosperity, and lots of Jupiterian luck! As far as 12/22, friends, let's counteract this with prayers for peace on earth and surround our earth with soft, glowing, nurturing, loving white light. Posted by: Sharon on November 29, 2005 05:31 AMI agree, Sharon, and it was worth saying twice (though I know you meant to say it only once). Night all--have wondrous, peaceful dreams. Posted by: shylurker on November 29, 2005 05:50 AMChunks of buildings & levees falling away?! Aside from the fun metaphores, it also lets us know how much the infrastructure is crumbling away while all our money is being spent on endless war by the warcoots. Posted by: JoannaOregon on November 29, 2005 05:58 AMjudi G-- sorry to take so long to answer your question.. here is the story on the crumbling facade of the Supreme Court: http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/11/28/scotus.facade.ap/index.html Posted by: Kathleen on November 29, 2005 05:58 AMHi Cybear, Thanks for following up on my request. Sharon's concern is certainly understandable. I am in thorough agreement with the sentiments she expressed. I personally find solace in Meher Baba's words....... "As in all great critical periods of human history, humanity is now going through the agonizing travail of spiritual rebirth. Great forces of destruction are afoot and seem to be dominant at the moment, but constructive and creative forces which will redeem humanity are also being released through several channels. Although the working of these forces of light is chiefly silent, they are eventually bound to bring about those transformations which will make the further spiritual advance of humanity safe and steady. It is all a part of the divine plan, which is to give to the hungry and weary world a fresh dispensation of the eternal and only Truth......" Posted by: Jerry on November 29, 2005 11:00 AMWhile refusing to hear other important cases, the SCOTUS will hear it’s first abortion case. Case Reopens Abortion Issue for Justices When the Supreme Court meets on Wednesday to hear its first abortion case in five years, the topic will be familiar: a requirement that doctors notify a pregnant teenager’s parent before performing an abortion. The court has upheld such laws for years, even in its more liberal days, and nearly all states now have them. But in the current climate, with the court in transition and the abortion debate as raucous as it has ever been, there is no such thing as just another abortion case. As reflected in dozens of briefs filed on both sides, interest in this new case, from New Hampshire, is extremely high. And in fact, the case raises two questions with broader implications for the future of abortion. One is how flexible a restriction on access to abortion must be when a woman’s pregnancy poses a threat to her health. New Hampshire imposes a 48-hour waiting period after the required notice to at least one parent. Like all states, it provides an exception for conditions that present an immediate threat to a pregnant teenager’s life. But of the 43 states with parental-involvement statutes, New Hampshire is one of only five that do not also provide an exception for non-life-threatening medical emergencies, and it was on this basis that two lower federal courts declared the law unconstitutional. The Supreme Court’s decision in the case, Ayotte v. Planned Parenthood of Northern New England, may therefore shed light on the contours of the “health exception” that the court’s abortion precedents have required since Roe v. Wade in 1973. The second question, while seemingly quite technical, has perhaps even broader implications. The issue is under what circumstances federal courts can continue to do what they did in this case and in many other abortion cases: bar the enforcement of abortion restrictions that have not yet gone into effect, and so cannot be said to have injured any specific plaintiff. More… Posted by: Pat C on November 29, 2005 01:13 PM
By Kevin Maguire And Andy Lines PRESIDENT Bush planned to bomb Arab TV station al-Jazeera in friendly Qatar, a "Top Secret" No 10 memo reveals.
Cybear...I've always awaken at 1:11 or 11:11.... I was watching CSPAN last night and saw a conference with Prof Geoff Stone of U of Chicago, and a black judge, Carter , but don't know first name, he was and is a fed judge who won (as an att)orney a case called Alabama vs...? didn't catch this part, but he was one of the unsung spearheads of the NAACP and the civil rights movement)....Stone was talking about a great deal of the Patriot Act, and said most of it had been blown out of proportion, but not all of it, by Ashcroft....he said most of it isn't any more restrictive than many laws of the past. (Except some of the library things...the gag on librarians saying anything EVER about the feds coming into the library and searching...very draconian). Anyway, he was talking about the Sedition Act (1795) ,which jailed many many prominent people over 2 centuries, who spoke out against the government....until Eugene McCarthy, who was the first politician NOT jailed for speaking out (Vietnam of course). He said that in the past tJohn Kerry and Howie Dean would have gone to jail..! So we have made progress (fist ammendment), but it gives a good clue as to where this con admin has been coming from...they consider opposition to be sedition, so I would look for that little number to somehow get 'revived'....and since the supremes could OK it (by the new makeup of the court).... a new Sedition Act!....watch out . Carter said (and he is a fed judge)....don't ever go to the supremes to settle anything, or any fed judge (except him!) ....get everything done at a state level. Kathleen..thanks for finding that story.... N.C. Judge Declines Protection for Diebold http://tinyurl.com/9kvvq (AP - Yahoo) One of the nation's leading suppliers of electronic voting machines may decide against selling new equipment in North Carolina after a judge declined Monday to protect it from criminal prosecution should it fail to disclose software code as required by state law.
Global Hot Air Labor's Lost Story Goodbye Habeas Corpus Here's a compendium of 23 administration officials known to be involved with the Plame leak and a brief description of their involvement. http://www.thinkprogress.org/leak-scandal Judi G., I think your man, Judge Carter, is here: We spend so much time (which we have to, for we must be vigilant) focused on all the scary stuff that we forget the many heroes, rich in history and struggle, that are still amongst us. End of rant. Thanks for yr forebearance. Posted by: on November 29, 2005 06:37 PMOops. Above post about Judge Carter was from me. Posted by: shylurker on November 29, 2005 06:45 PMhttp://www.buzzflash.com/reviews/05/11/rev05125.html God And Caesar in America: An Essay on Religion and Politics by Former Senator Gary Hart Posted by: Pat C on November 29, 2005 07:28 PMThe Experts say-if we leave now it will take at least ten years for recovery. This is totally off topic, but it's something I can't find out at the moment. I have a reason. Who paid/pays for the satellites that provide us with satellite tv reception. Who paid to put them in space? If it is the American taxpayer, why didn't we get a kiss before getting screwed? If this is not appropriate, just delete it. But, if anyone has any links, send them to my e-mail address. Thanks. Posted by: Patricia on November 29, 2005 11:18 PMhttp://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/ the poll is to the left..........add to the 64% who think we should bring the troops home within 6 mo. I don't know if this will help much, Patricia, and I certainly don't know how accurate and complete the info is, but it is a place to start. Sharon, Jerry - Projecting peace and love to the world is what it's all about. The more we project, the better off we will be. I send Reiki energy to the world on a regular basis and do as much healing for others as I can these days. It has helped my mental state tremendously lately. Keeps me grounded and in the here and now instead of in the past or future. What we do now has an effect on future events. So the more love and light we send out the better off we will be. We got to rack up the good Karma points these days! Judi G. - Sedition is scary....we'll all be locked up....Have you noticed anything about 1:11 or 11:11? If you add them up they are 3 and 4 respectively. I have added 12:22 up and it's 7. My concern over 12/22 is what my Medicine Man friend looked like when we talked about it. He had the same experiences and felt it was a significant date. After seeing the post about the charts for late Dec and early Jan, I began to think uh oh, maybe there's more to this then whats on the surface. And after my vision of B* morphing into Hitler with warfare and a mushroom cloud swirling around him I am a little jumpy. After all, it was about a month after my vision of an Earthquake in a mountainous region and a feeling of being violently shaken that the massive one hit Pakistan. Posted by: Cybear on November 29, 2005 11:38 PMCybear...I am 21/3 in numerology...the World/the Empress.......my father died on 9/11 (1960)....I don't know, for some reason I see all those 11111ssss....! I certainly hope 12/22 isn't significant in the way we think now it might be. Reiki to the world.......!!!!!!!!! Posted by: judi G on November 29, 2005 11:59 PMCybear...I am 21/3 in numerology...the World/the Empress.......my father died on 9/11 (1960)....I don't know, for some reason I see all those 11111ssss....! I certainly hope 12/22 isn't significant in the way we think now it might be. Reiki to the world.......!!!!!!!!! Posted by: judi G on November 29, 2005 11:59 PMmaybe 12/22 will be the day Cheney is indicted.....that would be kind of a nuklear experience for some... Posted by: judi G on November 30, 2005 12:01 AMI like that thought Judi G lets all focus on it! Or my dream of Cheney dying and Bush being hauled off in a straight jacket comes true on that day! Posted by: Cybear on November 30, 2005 12:13 AMThat should be Cheney dies... Posted by: Cybear on November 30, 2005 12:14 AMJudi G., did you see the post about Judge Carter? It's just a few up. Posted by: shylurker on November 30, 2005 12:41 AMAlso, remember that 11 and 22 are master/elevated spiritual numbers in numerology. I was told that when the time is 11:11, it is a really special moment and, whenever I see that time on a digital clock, I often bring my awareness to what is happening and how I can use that special energy to make something special happen. Cybear, it must be difficult to have these graphic, sensitive visions and experiences, and then have them turn out to be true. Let's meditate on our energy being grounded deep into the earth from our spinal cord and feet, and expanding it outward into the Universe through our crown chakras, as we hold the earth to our hearts and surround it with Reiki energy through our hands. Much Love to You ~ (the ~ key always makes me think of Dommael who often used it) Posted by: Sharon on November 30, 2005 12:57 AMSharon, do you think we could find happiness here: I love this stuff! Posted by: shylurker on November 30, 2005 03:17 AMJudi G. - How I love San Bruno! I lived in SF for 20 years and frequently had power outages there and even had one outage in my new home in Oregon my first year here that lasted for 24 hours. I'm ashamed to admit that it always annoyed me and I got really cranky when it happened. But after watching what the Iraqi people, the earthquake survivors, and those in the disaster areas of the US have to put up with on a daily basis for months on end, I count my blessings knowing any outage will generally be quickly dealt with. Posted by: Kathleen on November 30, 2005 03:54 AMMaybe wherever you are in your life is perfect, Shy, as my uncle said a few weeks before he passed, since all things here on earth are relative.... Somehow, in the material plane, there are choices to make and therein lies the beauty of free will but I sure wouldn't mind going to a perfect galaxy or solar system where there was only joy and happiness and light. Posted by: Sharon on November 30, 2005 04:31 AMDon't miss! Our busy-busy-busy man has taken on the abortion issue: Actually, I hope Cheney lives as long as possible -- or at least long enough to stand trial at the ICC/The Hague and answer to the world on charges of war crimes and crimes against humanity. Even if they have to sustain him on life support to do it (a la Schiavo), he needs to be made to stand up and account for all of the mayhem, pain, suffering and destruction that he has wrought upon this world, all for his own selfish greed, lust for power and deceit. He should not be permitted to "pass on" before doing so. And bring along Rumsfeld too. There is much blood on his hands as well, and as much as Cheney, he needs to account for the tremendous damage that he has done. Moreover the American people need to be made to see and understand what horrific monsters we have unleashed upon this planet out of our own collective selfishness and ignorance. Corrupt individuals like Cheney, Rumsfeld and Bush would never be allowed anywhere near the halls of power in a healthy, democratic nation. We've got a lot of healing to do. Posted by: NEOBuckeye on November 30, 2005 04:53 AMWe do have a lot of healing to do, NEO. I like so much how you put it...our collective selfishness. Maybe, just maybe, we will make some progress. It can't be all backward. There is so much going on with our Mars and I've been thinking a lot about the retrograde progression. In the beginning of last century, Hollywood movies mesmerized the world in a way that is hard to describe. They fulfilled a fantasy need that got the entire world completely hooked. WWII further built the worship of America as a mythic hero. You had to be there to sense the feeling when the American troops liberated the death camps...they wept, they gave them everything they could, nursed them back to life, and the country gave them a new home. The heroic status continued. If the Neptune in the ninth is correct for the USA chart then it is easy to see how the country could be worshipped like this. And the Mars square Neptune. The Neptune in Virgo is about purity, too, and we were perceived as such...until this administration, the war, the torture, and most of all Katrina. This has all laid bare the impurities that were behind the image. You recall that Katrina happened exactly when Pluto went direct squaring the Mars/Neptune. Our cover has been blown. And we are stained. Pluto has transformed our Mars and the retrograde is a time to put this experience to good use, at home where we need to be. As a result, I think some good things will come as Mars goes inward and our image has come closer to reality. People have copied us for years to the neglect of their own national and ethnic characteristics. Maybe by the end of Pluto in Sag, other countries will be more aware of their personalities as we are followed less with such blind adoration. The torture issue has taken us down a notch. I think Iraq is a vortex that is destined to show our failure and continue to weaken us no matter how hard the administration tries. And when Saturn transits Virgo next and conjucts our Neptune, I think we will be aware of all the work we have to do to repair this battered nation and as you say, NEO, start the journey to health. Posted by: jm on November 30, 2005 07:56 AMAbout the 12/22 date being linked to some terrible event caused by the bush gang -- im not inclined to go that route. 1. Cheney prior to the 2004 election made it pretty clear that if the people voted for the Dems there would be another attack and that only Bush/Cheney could keep us safe. Another attack would have the same effect as Katrina - - to show the Bush team unable to prevent the attack and unable to handle it. It just doesnt do much for them image-wise. In fact it would nail down the inept label. 2. 12/22 is right before Christmas. An event then would wipe out that last minute surge of shopping (the last Saturday before Christmas is a huge shopping day) and would not make big biz too happy. 3. The timing is really off. Right before Christmas doesnt seem like the time a "Christian" admin would schedule a disaster. Posted by: e on November 30, 2005 09:07 AMHi E, The December 15th Gemini Full Moon has the Sun conjoining Pluto (nuclear issues) at 23/24 Sagitarius. This is the very same 23 Sag degree that conjoins the '05 Bush Inaugural chart's natal Pluto in the 8th house (issues related to death and destruction). Given the intense aspects activating Iran's chart from mid to late December, I gather the rhetoric will be heating up, with the U.S. finding itself in a full blown confrontation with Iran. It's my educated guess, the hair trigger situation will force Iran's hand, offering them the pre-emptive option. With Al Qaeda's assistance, they could very well detonate a nuclear device on an American city. I don't think this is a far fetched scenario, as Iran has threatened on many occasions to attack US and Israeli interests if they perceived an attack on their nuclear facilities was imminent. Last year, in the Summer and Fall of 2004, a series of posts appeared in one of the Blog websites indicating such an attack was all but inevitable. The number 22 felt to be very significant to this person. Here are the posts.............. Contributed by susieq on: Sunday 15 August 2004 @ 00:27:24 In the last few weeks and days before the 9/11 attacks the numbers 9 and 11 were catching my attention everywhere I went. Lately the number 22 is doing the same. I don't know if the number is a date or what, but It is catching my attention every where recently. Also the last few days I have had the feeling that some plans I have made for the future will never come to pass because something big is about to happen to our country that will make it impossible. Also, I don't think there was any real threat to the banks in NY and I feel that our government knew it. I do think they were trying to divert attention away from something else that was going on - which may or may not have been terrorist related. Also recently I had the impression that a nuclear war will start in the not to distant future - not in the next days or weeks, but within the next few years, and that it might well be the US that starts it. Contributed by susieq on: Thursday 04 November 2004 @ 16:59:20 I feel that now that Bush is re-elected that there will be another terrorist attack within a coupled months after he starts his second term. I am getting 2/11/05 or 2/22/05 or close to those dates. Some reason those numbers keep drawing my attention. Posted by: Jerry on November 30, 2005 10:32 AMHi Jerry, didnt mean to imply that i didnt think somehting would happen - - just thought that this time it would be a real terrorist or a natural disaster. Your iran scenario seems very plausible Posted by: e on November 30, 2005 10:52 AMSharon - In the past my visions, premonitions and psychic images or feelings have been about local events, ie, family and friends. But lately they are on a global or universal level. Up until now they have not been too alarming or difficult. It's easy to tell someone that they need to be careful because I saw something in their future, but it usually does not change the outcome, it just lessons the impact of the event. Global events are a different animal all together. I see images but I can't pinpoint where or when. When these visions happen it is like a movie, very real, very intense and I don't snap out of it until it's over. e - Loss of holiday shoppers money pales in comparison to the money that will be made off of the Iraqi oil fields. I think this admin hides behind the cross and uses religion as a means to line up the sheeple for support. Jerry - Interesting posts from susieq. The numbers keep showing up. Love and Light! Posted by: Cybear on November 30, 2005 01:51 PMOrville Schell (in Robert Sheer's new blog) on China http://www.truthdig.com/dig/print/china Folks, I find the predictions about 12/22 rather interesting. I agree that it doesn't feel like our pathetic pResident dies [that wouldn't depress many] but something "natural" that saddens the whole country. Hmmm. What if the astrologically prepared (software-wise) calculated the winter soltice (12-21-05 at 10:35A.M. PST) chart in 4 or 5 major US cities. A chart for New York, LA, St Louis, Memphis & Denver may show what "it" could be about. What danger signs would we novices have to look for? Does anyone have the birthdata for US cities? Posted by: Jill G on November 30, 2005 04:02 PMJill G ...better ad SF to the list...after all, we ARE the most liberal city anywhere....and O'Reilley said the Taliban should bomb it... Posted by: judi G on November 30, 2005 04:26 PMShylurker, thans so much for the Richard Carter link, I hadn't seen it....He is quite old now....b. 1917....and had some trouble hearing questions, but he was wonderful. And NeoB, Sharon ,last night I woke up AGAIN, and the clock read 11:11 pm, and I woke up again at 1:11am......had a very strange dream early in the morning (personal, not collective) Kathleen...I live across Whitman from Shelter Creek, up between 280 and Skyline, just south of San Bruno Ave....very hilly here, my daughter lives a block away from me, and they always lose power. This time she had tons of documents she was editing for Cisco, and they all got LOST on her computer when the outage came. She did find them, but boy...she was stressed. The biggest problem seems to be squirrels getting themselves electrified.... As for Cheney, et al, I just keep seeing the movie 'Ghost' where the black entities come and drag the bad guys away....the black entities would not be able to drag people away to the dark end of the spectrum without those baddies BEING baddies, don't ya think? all I can feel is that karma is karma.... Posted by: judi G on November 30, 2005 04:37 PM
Nov 30, 8:56 AM (ET) By DEVLIN BARRETT
WASHINGTON (AP) - Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton on Tuesday defended her vote to authorize war in Iraq amid growing unease among liberal Democrats who could determine the potential 2008 presidential candidate's future. "I take responsibility for my vote, and I, along with a majority of Americans, expect the president and his administration to take responsibility for the false assurances, faulty evidence and mismanagement of the war," the New York senator said in a lengthy letter to thousands of people who have written her about the war. At the same time, she said the United States must "finish what it started" in Iraq. http://apnews.myway.com/article/20051130/D8E6QUUOD.html Posted by: wv on November 30, 2005 04:43 PMWell...interesting reading from Jerry re: susieq's takes on dangers to america on certain dates..... in fact, it was september of 2005 which presented danger....Katrina. Wilma. She could have been picking up the vibes in 2004 for the tsunami on 12/26/04. I did...as I have posted here before, in a dream aug. 21, 2004....only I didn't know how to interpret it. Until later, of course, when it was clear. What is that phrase? God mocks while man plans?
Judi G,
Poisonings From a Popular Pain Reliever Are Rising By DEBORAH FRANKLIN These compounds include Excedrin, Midol Teen Formula, Theraflu, Alka-Seltzer Plus Cold Medicine, and NyQuil Cold and Flu, as well as other over-the-counter drugs and many prescription narcotics, like Vicodin and Percocet. Posted by: wv on November 30, 2005 06:15 PM
Jill G., re 12/21/05 that sure is a powerful chart (and I'll have more later this month on that), but I agree with your feel, all that earth. Spiritually though it is the ultimate new birth chart having survived the longest night. I get the same feel from the new moon chart (article percolating today), moon in the 12th...hmm what's up ? What's being initiated or coming into fruition ? Ok back later :)
Oooh, boy! Another one from Morgana on the way. Gonna brew up some nice green tea for this one. Posted by: shylurker on November 30, 2005 06:50 PMHey Shy add a shot of brandy, we'll need it! Fortitude and all that :) Posted by: Morgana on November 30, 2005 06:54 PMOh. Well, maybe I'll just forego the tea and warm up some saki instead. Thnx, Morgana. Posted by: shylurker on November 30, 2005 08:06 PMPoll: What would you have liked Smirky to say regarding withdrawing the troops?
"[Authorities] are doing the same as [in] Saddam's time and worse," former interim Iraqi Prime Minister Ayad Allawi told the London Observer, of human-rights abuses by the U.S.-backed Iraqi government. "It is an appropriate comparison. People are remembering the days of Saddam. These were the precise reasons that we fought Saddam and now we are seeing the same things." Allawi, one of Hussein's victims, became a trusted CIA asset and later was handpicked by the United States to be the leader of the new Iraq. He now is the leading secular alternative to the Shiite theocrats expected to win the Dec. 15 election. Posted by: wv on November 30, 2005 09:18 PMWill a Horror Film Impeach Bush? Morgana, I did a commercial last month for Briggs & Stratton, who make generators....I had to do some scenes (flooding in the midwest) with them, plus some others....I got real conscious of the need! Are you in Boulder Creek? Such a gorgeous area, the Santa Cruz mts..... Posted by: judi G on November 30, 2005 09:31 PMHi Judi, yes I am in Boulder Creek, two block, one stop sign town with the Creekians living all over the mountains in the redwoods. We look like a Currier and Ives card this time of year. Posted by: Morgana on November 30, 2005 09:48 PMMorgana, one of my best friends son lives there with wife and 3 adopted kids (all hispanic, a set of twins, too, all crack babies adopted at birth)... Here is something that is happening, and come Jan all hell may break loose in the Medicare part D program....the state of CA Health Services, which has paid the HMO premiums for low income Californians, has dropped the program. Which means that seniors with HMOs who are low income have to now come up with $96/mo for their supplemental healthcare. My mom is in a nursing home, and with Kaiser. When low invome people are in a nursing home on MediCal or Medicare, they only get to keep $35.00 a month. Do the math. Where does the money come from to pay the HMO fees? Well...me, if I could afford $96 a month....I don't have coverage myself! Or...she goes without an HMO and then opts into the Medicare D drug coverage. Clever how those rethugs screwed the HMOs out of patients, huh? And the state of CA now is making it's ballyhooed 'good tax revenues' now on the backs of the very poorest people (who can't vote, most of them, so what? huh? Well, my mother is in the nursing home, it is a great place and she will be taken care of....but so many aren't going to be... Posted by: judi G on November 30, 2005 10:30 PMNEO Buckeye and jm....I am not quite finished catching up here for today, but feel I must stop and acknowledge the power of both of your comments from this a.m. It is a pleasure to read such thoughtful and reasoned comments! Posted by: Beverly on November 30, 2005 10:52 PMMorgana, thanks for the reply and the good news about an upcoming article. It also strikes me that while it could be 12/21/05 here it has already moved to 12/22/05 on the other side of the world. So maybe the soltice energy is the "last straw" for whatever is brewing!? Cybear, what language are the people crying in during your vision? If it's English, then maybe it is only a US calamity. But if it's, say, Japanese, then watch the Ring-of-Fire in the Pacific. [And how good is Hawaii's tsunami warning system anyhow?] Do you ever meditate over an atlas with a pendulum for answers? Just speculating. Posted by: Jill G on November 30, 2005 11:01 PM
Sagittarius represents idealism, faith, enthusiasm, the quest for meaning, and a generosity of spirit. These are the qualities one needs to get through this darkest time of the year when the days shorten, the nights lengthen, and all becomes dark and cold. Even the slanting sun shines with a brightness that is tentative and not quite warming enough. As the earth retreats into its annual death cycle, so must we also turn within, and seek the wisdom of the dark time. This darkness calls out to our souls, asking us to face the fallibility of human life and its connection to the death of all things in the natural world. Mortality, something we fear and deny more than anything else in life, shows us our inate connection with all things in nature; we are, after all, just another species. To negate this fact, humans reach far beyond this stark reality to create the Sagittarian endeavors of religion, science, and grand philosophies of beingness, that exist outside the realm of the natural world. http://www.astrowisdom.com/thisnewmoon.htm Posted by: wv on November 30, 2005 11:47 PMBeverly It is with great joy that I share astrological insight with others. I love astrology more than anything I've discovered in my life. It's logic and reasonableness are two characteristics I especially love. I find that when hard things happen, we are ready and the whole orchestration reveals the picture and our ability to learn from these experiences. Sometimes a big leap can occur. But even a tiny one is great. One of the major things about this Sagittarius time of the year is the abundance of our own light we create all over the world.(I wonder how this translates in the Southern hemisphere though.) In New Mexico, they burn fires everywhere and also burn a HUGE effigy of the god Zozobra. It is a sight to behold. In India, they burn little oil lamps all over the rooftops of their homes. It's magical. Every culture has its festival of lights. I think Sagittarius represents the fire of spirit that helps us momentarily get above the sameness and disappointment of mundane events and remember that there is a magnificent universe we are part of. I hate to shortchange this experience. It's evidence of our ability to deal with darkness and our urge toward equilibrium. And our cosmic longing that never disappears. The comfort of spirit. Posted by: jm on December 1, 2005 12:37 AMJill G - It's kind of hard to use a pendulum to find earthquakes since they happen all over the world. I've tried and there are too many on any given day to narrow it down. What I "saw" was a mountainous region, very dry and rocky with scattered short pines which is typical of high altitudes. Any trees are usually stunted. There was also a dirt path or road. Did not see any people, I just saw the quake (possible epicenter) and felt it, but not where it went. Posted by: Cybear on December 1, 2005 12:48 AM
The explanation we've been given, so far, has been that it was revenge for having put the administration's Saddam-has-nukes meme in doubt. By writing that July 6, 2003, op-ed for the New York Times, "What I Didn't Find in Africa," Plame's husband, former Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson, attracted the ire of Libby and other neocons in the office of the vice president, who had been instrumental in formulating and defending that administration talking point. Posted by: wv on December 1, 2005 01:03 AM Friends here, i'd like to share some thoughts from my own little foray into searching for the fragments of the ancient myth of Hel and the stonedances.... Much about the stonedances, standing stones or stone Henges as you may prefer, remains mystery. They date back 5,000 years or more and many cultures have grown over them. By observation and measurement we can know that they were astronomical calendars which measure equinox and solstice. Many are above the arctic circle Currently we are moving into the period of Lunar Standtill. This is an 18.6 year cycle of the moon. At full moon 11 June 2006 the moon will barely skim the horizon and be at the lowest point of the cycle. Full moon on 11 June is at 21 deg Sagittarius. What i (and this is only my speculation) am weaving together with the stonedances is the points of power remembered in the jule (wheel) the namnsdag. So here is the interpretation: My interpretation is that 18.6years between Lunar standstill is the long cycle measured by the standing stones just as the solar cycle is measured as one year or jule circle. (two standing stones on the south end of many stonedances line up perfectly for this event) The namnsdag tells us the power of the point and describes the lesson of the next 18.6 year cycle. The day of the full moon 11 June is Berit ~ to make known or show, the degree of the full moon in Sagittarius is 21 the next step on the ladder, followed by restore peace, with spirit of love, mind join senses, the three days of pause before solstice (from myth) we are waiting for ellen (who carries the light though the darkest days) to return on the long night of 20 December then as the sun rises the gate opens and she passes the light into her twin soul tomas and enlightens him, he remembers the language of the animals and dances on the green land....... (ellen/tomas are the two whole parts of Hel (completion) similar to yin/yang.) Asteroid ellen went retro conjunct Mars in Taurus within hours of Mars, tomas went retro a bit later and has traveled back to meet them. Ellen and Tomas have surrounded Mars for the entire retro journey and when Mars turns direct in a few days ellen will do so in hours...this must be extremely rare. And if nothing else makes a curiosity. Check out what Steve Judd is adding to the December mix: Judi G -- I know that area where you are! I use to go frequently to the shopping center (for the life of me can't remember the name now) where the Long's Drug Store is on San Bruno. I lived on the Great Highway in the Sunset District before leaving SF. Talking about symbology so much lately, but when you mentioned the squirrels getting electrocuted it brought back this story my girl friend told me years ago when she worked at UCSF about a rat that escaped the lab at the hospital on Parnassus. It chewed the electrical wiring until it got fried and it shorted out the electrical system to a good portion of the hospital and especially the labs. (She showed me a picture of the rat -- poor thing was fried and black and looked like it was in a cartoon where the steamroller had run over it.) Somehow I always felt there was some karmic justice or revenge of the lab animals to that story.....but I doubt that it woke anyone up... Posted by: Kathleen on December 1, 2005 03:29 AMJudi G., Morgana and other interested Caleeeforneeeans. This is the best thing to be offered ever and probably the best think we'll be offered. We should all get behind this thing and PUSH. Sad to say, if the corporations figure out this is a better way to save themselves (than outsourcing, laying-off workers, etc.), then this plan will no doubt pass. So, if any of you have any corporate friends, start talking this thing up! Shylurker, thanks....Medicare for all is the rallying cry, and it should be.... Posted by: judi G on December 1, 2005 06:25 PMKathleen...Bay Hill shopping center...Mollie Stone's grocery, Long's ....! Yeh...those rats and squirrels have done huge damage in their simple martyrdom....like david and goliath! Tskea....my art rep's birthday makes her 2 Sag....her father in law died 2 weeks ago, her cat is dying right now (17 years old, he arrived at their house on Thksgvng 17 years ago) and she has to have ovaries removed because of cysts on 12/16. I hope this is good for her....I sent some of the posts from JM and WV to her, since they were so nice....it is nice that your henge stone day for 12/16 is spirit of love.... Posted by: judi G on December 1, 2005 06:41 PMThe Mars Contra-Parallel Pluto Aspect of December 22nd To define what parallel and contra parallel declinations are, I found the following helpful explanation from the VAA website (Victorian Astrology Association Inc.)...... "In astrology, when two planets are at the same declination degree, either both planets North or both South (but not necessarily at the same longitude), then this position is called a Parallel due to the fact that in a day, the Earth's rotation traces out the declination position of the planets over the exact same places (cities/towns) on the Earth's surface. If two planets are located at the same degree but one is North and the other is South declination then they are said to be in Contra parallel. It is said that a Parallel behaves like a Conjunction aspect and the Contra parallel behaves like an Opposition. Often, you will find in a chart that while two planets may not form a traditional aspect, that they can be connected via a parallel or contra parallel - watch for these connections!" The Mars Contra parallel Pluto aspect becomes exact on December 22nd (other compelling astrological aspects have been discussed earlier). I gather this unique contra-parallel alignment will bring added power to the already existing Mars sesqui-square Pluto configuration (exact 12/25). Pluto (nuclear issues) at 24 Sag conjoining Iran's natal MC/Venus degree (physical security) in semi-square to its natal Mars (war) at 9 Aq.; will no doubt heighten international tensions. Tr. Jupiter (agressive action) at 11 Scorpio squaring Iran's natal Sun at 11 Aq (core identity) may be indicating the US/Iran adversarial relationship is about to be thrown into a dangerous confrontive situation. This re-inforces my impression that Iran, may, in perceiving an imminent threat from the US/Israeli military, could conceivably unleash a pre-emptive Al Qaeda linked terrorist attack against the US on this particular day. Posted by: Jerry on December 2, 2005 10:09 AMAn interesting dialogue developed back in late Jan and early Feb of this year in the political/astrological forum I'm occasionally involved in. This was a direct result of susieq's comments. A question arose whether the Feb. 22nd date susieq had intuited was actually a pre-cursor to a major event on March 22nd. According to one psychic at the time, there was a distinct possibility of a massive earthquake along the San Andreas fault in Southern California, with enormus tsunami repercussions. Here are the pertinent recorded entries (with susieq's more recent March '05 post at the very end)..... Conversations On The Net/ Jan 31, 2005 Hi J, A psychic I know in LA, told me a year ago, there would be two major events this year--one on February 22nd and the other on March 22nd. The biggest event coming on March 22nd would be a 10.0 quake on the San Andreas fault in Southern California. She has previously picked two quakes to the day, one of them the Landers quake. The Feb and March dates are focused on 'natural' events. She does not work as a professional psychic, but has received accurate 'visions' ever since she was a little girl. She doesn't go looking for these experiences, rather they seek her out, and give her certain signals as the exact date approaches. She has seen the vision of the 'big one' for many years and is now getting signs that it is imminent. Best, S Tue Feb 1, 2005 Was appreciative of the feedback you shared. Thank you. If you're still in contact with this friend of yours you might consider disclosing the information posted and see if it resonates with her perception of things for February 22nd. A few of my friends are looking at this date with curiosity. I would be intrigued to hear her response (if any) Feb 2, 2005 Hi J, She previously stated that Feb 22 was something like a pre-cursor to the March 22 event--I assumed this to be another quake of smaller magnitude. I've put a call in to her and will mention your political/nuclear scenario and let you know what she says. Feb 3, 2005 Hi J, She called this evening and I asked her about Feb 22nd. She's not as clear on this event, but she thinks it may involve the San Onofre nuclear power station in some way. Whether an earthquake or man made event of some sort, she feels it will be controlled and contained. The area of concern here is north of San Diego and south of Los Angeles. She stressed it won't compare in any way to the event that will follow on March 22nd, which in her opinion will be the largest thing of it's kind anyone has ever seen and will also bring with it a tsunami. I've lived in So Cal for nearly 30 years and am a veteran of many quakes, but after talking with her last spring and checking this against my own chart, I sold my house in October and moved to Oregon. Best, - S Feb 23, 2005 Hi S, Well M is not alone. Several friends of mine are psychics, and they too feel a big one is coming. One sees it in the Pacific NW on the San Andreas, and one sees it closer to Malibu... a friend who lives in oceanside said there were weird lights over the base there, a strange orange tinge.... all night, and lots of thunder... which was very frightening. i know this will sound crazy, but maybe mother nature intervened in someones evil plans, in the "life-is-stranger-than-fiction" scenario it could be possible... There are distinct troubling aspects in all the charts I have looked at recently of clients/friends and family living in the Los Angeles area, but they don't all spell earthquake, it could just be all the rain we had, as it certainly made us all as JJ puts it barn sour... I will graph out March 22/3 soon... running in circles lately... and post it here and give you my 2Cents... thanks for sharing - T Feb 24, 2005 Hi T, I spoke with M this evening. She said that the recent events due to the California storms and related deaths seem to fit with her first vision to some extent. Although I don't think they ever touched the earth, there were tornado warnings at San Onofre and points south, as well as the actual ones that touched down in Sacramento. One of the main aspects of her first vision is that a great sigh of relief is breathed after the event is over. She told me this last year---there will be a great feeling that the trouble is now over. In previous visions throughout her life, once the event has occurred, she no longer 'sees' it anymore, which is now the case with the Feb 22 'event'. She still expects the 'big one' on March 22/23--a 10.0 on the San Andreas fault. - S Hi S, Regarding M's comments on the San Onofre nuclear power station and its connection to the San Andreas fault line; the following info might help shed some light on the subject and offer a possible explanation ........ In a December 2003 communique issued by Al Qaeda and broadcast on the Al Jazeera television station; there essentially contained a declaration of intention to irreparably damage the US economy. A number of specific actions were mentioned, one of which states the following: "The pinpointing of the earthquake fault line inside the United States and then causing explosions on it in several places and points." The San Onofre nuclear power station located directly on the California coast-line slightly south of the city of Los Angeles lies dangerously close to the San Andreas fault line. One source explains; "Over 2 million pounds of used reactor cores are stored at San Onofre. This is more than at nearly every other nuclear power station in America, making this nuclear power plant a PRIME TARGET for terrorists. Because of the extreme dangers posed by this fuel, it was originally only supposed to be stored temporarily at the site. However, about 99% of the used cores are currently still being stored at the site because there is no waste repository site anywhere which can take them." (extracted from the following link website: The potential for a terrorist attack occurring on a nuclear facility has FAA officials deeply worried - as this article explains..... Nuclear Power - Nuclear Plant Security The NRC: What, me worry? by Daniel Hirsch The question immediately arose on September 11 and has persisted: As horrific as the terrorist attacks were, what might have happened if the terrorists who seized jumbo jets and used them as weapons against the World Trade Center and the Pentagon had aimed them at nuclear power plants instead? And if more attacks are likely, as government officials have said, are nuclear facilities on the terrorist target list? The Sunday Times of London reported in October that some intelligence assessments suggest that the intended target of the fourth plane, the one downed in Pennsylvania, was a nuclear power reactor. The plane had descended much too soon for Washington to be its intended destination, these assessments indicate, suggesting that the true target may have been one of several nuclear plants in its flight path, with the single still-operating unit at Three Mile Island seeming the most likely. This assessment cannot be confirmed, of course. But if it is correct, we owe even more to those brave passengers who succeeded, at the cost of their own lives, in bringing the plane down before it reached its intended target. Immediately after the September 11 attacks, the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) and the nuclear industry issued statements asserting that U.S. reactor containments were designed to withstand the crash of a fully loaded jumbo jet. Within days, both had to recant and admit that the opposite was the case. Just hours after the terrorist attacks, NRC spokesperson Breck Henderson said U.S. nuclear plants were safe because "containment structures are designed to withstand the impact of a 747." Ten days later he admitted that "the initial cut we had on that was misleading." In a formal statement, the agency conceded that it "did not specifically contemplate attacks by aircraft such as Boeing 757s and 767s, and nuclear power plants were not designed to withstand such crashes." A similar pattern of assurance followed by retraction characterized the behavior of public relations personnel for a number of specific nuclear sites. Early on, however, David Kyd, spokesperson for the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), was quoted as saying that most nuclear plants, built during the 1960s and 1970s, were designed to withstand only accidental, glancing impacts from the smaller aircraft used at the time. "If you postulate the risk of a jumbo jet full of fuel, it is clear that their design was not conceived to withstand such an impact,'' he said. In reporting Kyd's comments, the Associated Press quoted an unnamed U.S. government official to the effect that a direct hit at high speed by a modern jumbo jet "could create a Chernobyl situation." How secure is the plant from terrorism? The following article chillingly describes the vulnerabilities... http://www.mindfully.org/Nucs/San-Onofre-NPP11may02.htm Here's an article that links all three concerns, the San Onofre nuclear station, earthquakes and tsunamis.... 222 Okay, here are my thoughts on the subject. In the days just prior to 2/22, I began to have the feeling that it would be a seemingly uneventful day – no major attacks to speak of. But I am still seeing the numbers 222 everywhere. Here are some of the thoughts that have been coming to me. The first is that something could have happened on 2/22 that we have not and will not realize its importance for some time. Sometimes seemingly trivial events can have major repercussions some time later. Don’t forget that Bush was over seas on 2/22 making his case for war in the Middle East – who knows what he may have said in one of those speeches that could start a series of reactions and later events that will come home to roost later – we may never know. Another thought that has come to me is that we were to fast to assume that the numbers indicated a date – it could be a time such as 22 minutes after 2, commonly would be referred to as 2:22 if giving the time. It could the number of an airplane, a room in some secret government agency; it could be the number of a piece of legislation that will have unfortunate events. Some of that may seem for fetched to some of you –but I am beginning to think the meaning of the numbers may not be as obvious as a certain date. Sorry, I can’t be more specific.
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