This may finally be it, the big one, politically. The American people watched helplessly as their government did nothing. That is not a feeling "can do" Americans are comfortable with. But we can not sit back and think our vision has become their vision, quite suddenly. This is momentary and unless we keep our voices raised the people will hit the snooze button and fall back to sleep. Our local statio has been doing reports on the predictions of the dtorms to come for Sept. Five are expected, of the five four will be hurricanes and of the four two will be major. As Sally predicted this is going to be a terrible fall for B***, but it will also be so for all of us. Keep talking, talk to everyone around you, tell them the truth, for the day will come when they will finally hear what you are saying. Remember the hundreth monkey.

Thank you Sally. And could you or the vedic astrologer tell us what the fall looks like for Cheney?

You are "telling it like it is" , Sally, as the '60s saying goes. And how right about the fruitlessness of crying out for some reasonable humane action. I am sick of petitioning our Little Boots. Let's sack the mad emperor rather than plead with him.

Just saw Bush on CNN at some safe hangar somewhere on the Gulf Coast, saying (I'm paraphrasing as well as I can remember): "There is some good news--the such and such (oil) pipeline is now at 80% capacity."

This just after the reports of the dead, the dying, and the desperate.

M. the Vedic series that will be run is more of a tutorial on Vedic astrology, not predictive at this time, and you are so right about "keep on talking, keep on telling the truth and eventually they will hear" that is absolutely correct.

No wonder it's been such a cluster-****. Check out the guy they hired to run FEMA.

http://www.horsesass.org/

FEMA director Mike Brown, "A total ****ing disaster?"
by Goldy, 09/02/2005, 12:34 AM

"An unmitigated, total ****ing disaster.: That's not a quote from Mike Brown, but rather, a quote describing him. And most disturbingly, it's not even a reference to his dismal performance as director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA). This blunt critique was emailed to me from a regular reader who was apparently attracted to HorsesAss.org by her passion for politics and her love of Arabian horses.

I think I've told you that I'm into Arab horses. Well, for 3 years Michael Brown was hired and then fired by our IAHA, the International Arabian Horse Assoc. He was an unmitigated, total ****ing disaster. I was shocked as hell when captain clueless put him in charge of FEMA a couple of years ago. He or the WH lied on the WH presser announcing him to FEMA. IAHA was never connected to the Olympic Comm, only the half Arab registry then and the governing body to the state and local Arabian horse clubs. He ruined IAHA financially so badly that we had to change the name and combine it with the Purebred registry.

I am telling you this after watching the ****ing shipwreck in the Gulf. His incompetence is KILLING people.

Yes, that's right the man responsible for directing federal relief operations in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, sharpened his emergency management skills as the Judges and Stewards Commissioner for the International Arabian Horses Association a position from which he was forced to resign in the face of mounting litigation and financial disarray.

And what of that misleading White House press release?

From 1991 to 2001, Brown was the Commissioner of the International Arabian Horse Association, an international subsidiary of the national governing organization of the U.S. Olympic Committee.

I can't even begin to fact check the dates or IAHA's alleged relationship to the US Olympic Committee, because of course, the IAHA doesn't exist anymore, so there's nothing to Google. But it begs the question how the hell did his prior job experience prepare Brown to head FEMA?

Well, judging by his agency's performance over the past few days
it didn't.

[Cross-posted at Daily Kos]

I am fuming. I am at work and unable to watch the news reports on the shrub's visit to the Gulf Coast. But from what I'm reading in Salon's war room....words can't descibe what I am feeling right now. And pickles wasn't any better. Go to Salon.com, get a day pass and read the entries in War Room. Maybe someone who heard this stuff can't tell me it sounded better than it reads.

You are right about not letting up. The Republican leadership announced they are going ahead with hearings on their new choice for the SCOTUS. Hearings begin Tuesday. They are also moving ahead with abolishing the estate tax (the hubris). All the while we were salivating over the Plame leaks, they were passing the bankruptcy bill (which will destroy most of those who survived Katrina), the energy bill, and CAFTA. They continue to get whatever they want.

Sally, your voice is a clear bell ringing whoever will listen to action.

You, and all others, can count on the fact that my husband and i have been and will keep on saying WAKE UP! WAKE UP!

The horror we have witnessed is made more so by the ugly, chest-pounding rhetoric of the "Rezident." (I could hear you saying the word derisevly as you wrote.)

Coincidentally, there is more Iran jabbing going on. This makes me terribly nervous. If a nuclear event occurs here, we will know for a fact, that we are being pulled into Hell.

karen

Guess what, Darth Cheney has Machiavelli (19730) natally at 2Cap59 on his 5th house cusp. His King (asteroid 2305) is at 5Lib59 near his NN in his second. His Lucifer (1930) is in his 10th at 16Gem10. Since dubya (a Cancer) is his puppet I find it interesting that the asteroid Pinocchio (12972) is at 17Cancer15 in Darth's chart.

September 2, 2005 -- Who is jamming communications in New Orleans? Ham radio operators are reporting that communications in and around New Orleans are being jammed. In addition, perplexed ham radio operators who were enlisted by the Federal government in 911 are not being used for hurricane Katrina Federal relief efforts. There is some misinformation circulating on the web that the jamming is the resault of solar flares. Ham radio operators report that the flares are not the source of the communications jamming.  If anyone at the National Security Agency is aware of the source of the jamming, from direction finding or satellite intelligence, please discretely contact me at waynemadsendc@hotmail.com (from a private or temporary email account). In this case, the Bush administration cannot hide behind national security and it is the duty of every patriotic American to report such criminal activity to the press.

http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/

Murika's Fallujah!!!!!!
PQ

Thanks again Sally. You're stuff is fascinating!

I just heard that Halliburton has been given the contract (no-bid) to rebuild New Orleans. Don't have a link yet but I'll look . . . .

Whipee.

Here's that link!

http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/news/hurricane_katrina.html

If anything the disaster in the red southern states has proved beyond a shadow of doubt this
impotent crony robbers' governance in DC can't
fight two wars at a time, so can shelve any ideas
of war against Iran. Below cartoon

http://www.markfiore.com/animation/pauly.html

The cloud is growing darker and darker. You know just before the new moon, people into certain forms of magick do their most powerful work....It's an excellent time for cleansing negativity and working spells of retribution.

And Bush has screwed the Voodoo capital of the US...

Can you imagine another 3.3 years of him? I can't.

I hope that whatever his charts are saying is dead on and not just a maybe might happen.

Cybear, it seems that bith our sixth senses are on the same wave. A few predictions that I feel in my inner soul. I hope that I am wrong, but I feel like this is the beginning of more trouble ahead that will change the direction of this country.

- Everytime I look at Bush, I have this inner sense that he is in physical danger. Pluto in the first house hitting nSaturn I quess.

- The gulf coast will be hit by another hurricane soon (neptune and Unarus in mutual reception).

I hope I'm wrong.

Traviso - WHOA! I was just getting the times and dates of what I posted on the Moon Beams thread and you just posted that above. It's chilling to read what I saw in my vision of the Fiend. Really kind of describes what's going on right now. My biggest fear now is that we are sitting ducks. I really, really hope the last thing I described is not going to happen. I really afraid of another Hurricane in the Gulf, but I really nervous about a well planned, "convenient terrorist" attack. Check my other post here for what I have been seeing around the Fiend the past few days. He's in big trouble on all fronts.

The posts are on Moon Beams, Aug. 25 4:16am, 5:06am and 5:11 am.

Maybe the moon in virgo will make all the pesky little details (or the lack thereof) important for everyone to see.

kiwijeanie, Mercury is about to visit Virgo also, on September 4th, all the way to the 20th. Our thoughts will definitely be on the details and getting organized.

We shouldn't even THINK of the possibility that a transformation will fail to occur and make all this suffering useless. There's got to be goodness in life to balance this force.

I agree with Sally and I also think race riots are on their agenda for the future. That's why they put the assault weapons back on the streets. We are all in survival mode and this event has probably kicked off this truth.

It is imperative that we are not manipulated into hate and prejuduce at this critical time. Our best weapons are our faith and and our solidarity and community as the family of man. I think we should all tweak our hate levels wherever they are directed.

jm

Sally, JW
Race riots are definitely a possibility and that would be an effective way to install marshall law.
I hope we as a country do not descend into madness soon. We're on the brink right now. Let's hope and pray there is a collective step back from the edge.

Cybear,

I think we already have descended into madness. It's as if we are still being hurled in the hurricane and haven't landed yet. We will act when we see where that is. We are on our own to take care of our own and that will ultimately give us strength and courage.

Now is a time to thank the universe for being astrologers who see the incredible orchestration of it all. The exactness of transits is awe-inspiring and gives me faith in the overall outcome.

I am praying that we take a step in evolution now so Pluto will have mercy on us as he leaves Sagittarius. We as metaphysicians have a big responsibility.

Also, Cybear, I think you have a point about voodoo and NO. Not that voodoo is the power but the propensity toward that belief. It always was a dangerous city. In fact, all cities are with their overly dense populations. The furies have been unleashed and we are not yet sure who they are targeting, but I am quite sure they will continue to rage. Safe places always exist.

And, of course, as Pluto kicks off this demolition derby, we should look at Pluto in our own charts and what needs to be done to take this step forward in our own lives.

Pluto is turning direct, but please do not ignore the sesquiquadrate or 135 aspect of Saturn and Pluto. It passes on the 9th and I believe that the peak of this diasater will begin to decline then. Just because it is not easy to see, the 135 is potent with outer planets. This is the first hard aspect of Sat/Plu since August of 2001. Starman

Voudou is a deeply rich earth-based African matrifocal spiritual Way... a natural for focus of demonization & destruction by xians & other patriarchal systems. They use trance states for healing & states of ecstasy. I love their rituals... the power these women focus to those in the participating group can be experienced in Wiccan ritual. (Well, DUH) ;O)

JoannaOregon - I am in no way influenced by xian philosophy when it comes to Magick, Voodoo, or other forms of the Arts. I know from experience what certain forms of the Occult are about. Been involved with various forms for years and years and years. But, yes you are right about most do not practice that way. Being that I spent some time in N.O. and explored some of those 'areas', I know there is a negative aspect there as well.

As for myself now, I am pretty much a practicing Buddhist, but still work magick win I feel the need.

Cap'n Sally, thank you so much for your direct assessment of this unholy mess. The people have to lead since most of the leaders have demonstrated they are either too corrupt or too afraid to lead. The cynicism has reached a level seldom surpassed in history and never surpassed here in the U.S. We have to take back our country. Thank you for this gem of an article.

The creeping tentacles of fascism
Martial Law.. . . By now all the required laws and bylaws are in place for the speedy implementation of a full Police State within the US, requiring only the right set of circumstances to impose nationwide Martial Law. New Orleans is now under ex post facto martial law, and this could very well be a localized test for the coming US-wide implementation of Martial
Law.http://www.threeworldwars.com/blog/index.php/weblog/katrina_and_weather_manipulation/

I think Collins is beginning to stir & awaken................She was pretty condemnatory when she came back from a tour of Anwar, several weeks ago

Collins' Committee Calling For Answers On Katrina Response

Two ranking members of the Senate Governmental Affairs Committee called the response to the disaster on the Gulf Coast "an immense failure."
PORTLAND, Maine (AP) -- Senators Susan Collins of Maine and Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut say their committee will demand answers
http://www.wlbz.com/home/article.asp?id=26139
PQ

"Being that I spent some time in N.O. and explored some of those 'areas', I know there is a negative aspect there as well. As for myself now, I am pretty much a practicing Buddhist, but still work magick win I feel the need."

Yea, verily... & I'm assuming I didn't step on your cy-bear tail, yes? I haven't experienced the negative of voudou, but I certainly have in xianity... big heaping flops n' glops of it as a 1-time sister in a catholic religious order. But like you, I'm very much in accord with Buddhism as well.

I think voodoo was originally practiced in rural settings and when it came to the city it got corrupted as all things in the urban jungle do. All group activities, no matter how pure in original intent, have the danger of group hysteria present. Voodoo was probably manipulated and politicized, used for fear, as much as any other religious practice when applied to a larger society.

JoannaO - Oh my no, you didn't step on my 'tail'. HaHa! :) There are alot of new agers and neo-wiccans that think everyone is all fluffy and those things are not a part of it. Just wanted to clarify that there is a negative aspect. It brings balance when working in those realms. There's a lot of negative energy down here on the Gulf Coast right now and I am lit up like a light bulb! I'm trying to stay grounded by long meditations, doing mantras and sending Reiki to those in need.

jm - I not sure that's correct. There's a dark side to everything. Good & Evil, Black & White, Male & Female, Positive & Negative, God & Devil. It brings balance.

Magick, Voodoo, or whatever is not black or white, it's the intent and the will behind it.

Darker aspects of magick can be worked for a positive effect. Positive aspects of magick can bring a negative effect. It's the thoughts behind it.

And that's why I love the earth-based spiritual system, Cybear... it embraces & integrates what appears to be "The Darkness," refusing to "split it off" thereby creating no end to horror & troubles. Best astro-symbolism would probably image "head in the clouds & feet planted firmly in the ground." Good stuff!

Oh please...help!!!!!!! I just got a "CHAIN PRAYER" for the victims of The NO disaster!!!!!! They still don't get it!!!!!
Some of those people (in Reno) are near enough to take in homeless victims! That hasn't occured to them; they would rather sit home & pray for God to do it for them!
Meanwhile waaaaaaaaayyyyy up here in Maine, The Progressives in Bangor are joining up with move-on to take in some of the victims who may decide to relocate entirely!
Guess I'll jusdt stop e-mailing her altogether..as I don't know WHAT to say...........
PQ

Check out this piece by the novelist E.L. Doctorow:

"I fault this president for not knowing what death is. He does not suffer the death of our 21-year-olds who wanted to be what they could be. On the eve of D-Day in 1944 General Eisenhower prayed to God for the lives of the young soldiers he knew were going to die. He knew what death was. Even in a justifiable war, a war not of choice but of necessity, a war of survival, the cost was almost more than Eisenhower could bear.

But this president does not know what death is. He hasn't the mind for it. You see him joking with the press, peering under the table for the weapons of mass destruction he can't seem to find, you see him at rallies strutting up to the stage in shirt sleeves to the roar of the carefully screened crowd, smiling and waving, triumphal, a he-man.

He does not mourn. He doesn't understand why he should mourn. He is satisfied during the course of a speech written for him to look solemn for a moment and speak of the brave young Americans who made the ultimate sacrifice for their country."

full essay here:

http://www.easthamptonstar.com/20040909/col5.htm

Well I sent on Molly Ivan's article, with a rant of my own at the bottom.
PQ

More And More "Facts"
Sure, the evacuation of 10,000 Jewish settlers in Gaza was a painful and costly move by the Israeli government. But, not to worry. Americans for Peace Now reports that Israel has by no means slowed its settlement project in the occupied West Bank. In fact, they've accelerated it, as the number of settlers in the West Bank has sharply increased by 12,683 this year alone. In fact, since Israel began its disengagement plan 18 months ago, 18,000 settlers moved into their new homes in the West Bank. That number exceeds the 10,000 who evacuated Gaza. Disengagement, Schmisengagement.

This is from the Arab/American weekly bulletin by email.

Have you read this yet? If not, please do! Terrific look at Cindy and Casey Sheehan and Bush.

Cindy Sheehan, Galactic Conscience
by Alex Miller-Mignone

http://www.daykeeperjournal.com/alex.shtml

Now the body count will begin... tPluto is direct. Gulfport was wiped off the map... there are 15 coroners there, with 6 refrigerated semi tractor trailers... I've seen figures of 40,000 for Mississippi alone, some whole families have been found in fallen trees...

This is a horrific disaster... and Bush has been partying all week... tonight there were fireworks at the Lincoln Memorial in Wash DC... read Americablog...

I am sick, sick... the evil fascist pig finally went to the site (in an airplane hangar mostly!) and of course the water and some food followed his arrival in a 'convoy of hope' --- what utter crap...

Do you think it coincidental that the supplies finally arrived in NOLA the same time he did? Do you think this pig held the supplies (and flags - did they have to wave a flag to get water?) until he could finish his vacation and get his photo ops lined up?

tPluto is moving direct...

It is 10:10 PM EDT. Quickly, if you have a tv turn on the ABC channel.

20-20 is doing a timeline of the NOLA disaster.

I just started recording it. Worth seeing.

"In true Uranian style, Sheehan has certainly rattled bush, who has been quoted by staffers as exploding, “I’m not meeting again with that goddamned bitch! She can go to hell as far as I’m concerned!” Early in her vigil, the most powerful man in the world blew by her roadside encampment at high speed on his way to a fundraiser, & later, as he prepared for a ride on his mountain bike, he explained to reporters that he sympathized with her grief but he “has to get on with his own life.”

This behavior & spoiled little monster-man is simply not to be tolerated. He murders her (our) child then bombasts her (us) with obscenities.

Dear friends all,

We need to be very, very careful to listen beneath the chatter meant for the masses. Wait some before we draw conclusions these are masters of deception, we all know them ...

Reported earlier today 2 Sept. regarding sniper fire at aircraft:
Laura Brown, a Federal Aviation Administration spokeswoman in Washington, said she had no such report.

"We're controlling every single aircraft in that airspace and none of them reported being fired on," she said, adding that the FAA was in contact with the military as well as civilian aircraft"

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=1087205.

tseka

Jill G., Thanks for the asteroids on Cheney. I picked them up on your last post in Nancy Waterman's article. I have placed them on his chart. Never thought to look for Pinocchio (SP?).

Wonder where Pinocchio appears in Shrub's chart. Will look.

I am as sick at with this news as an American can be. I triffle with asteroids because I cannot bear to see another picture, read another paper or blog or use another "expletive deleted."

Sally, your article sends ice through my veins. Excellent.

No, Jo,
I do not think it coincidental that food and water and aid arrived with Bush. I think there has been a warroom in WH but the minds there weren't strategizing for the benefit of US but looking for a way to pull it out for themselves.

I don't have TV or radio but i do note the subtle use of manipulative language being used to sway public opinion.

For some reason the image of Reagan setting the seeds to destroy wefare by talking about "welfare queens" and pointing to black women...surfaced in my thoughts yesterday.

tseka
p.s. Pat C is up and runnig again i expect we'll see her soon...

Yeah, teska, that "blame the victim" thing is definitely going on.

Two good blogs covering it are Americablog (don't remember address but you can link from

http://www.dailykos.com

And--I can't recommend it enough--Digby

http://digsbyblog.blogspot.com

Also Kos has a good diary on the same subject, as does TPM (Talking Points Memo.)

Jill G.

Pinnochio appears in Shrub's natal chart at 16 Capricorn 43, opposing his Sun in the 12th, Squaring his Moon in Libra in the 3rd, Squaring his Jupiter in the 3rd in Libra.

It opposes Cheney's Pinocchio!

Eric Francis hits another home run:

Katrina, the Awakener

http://planetwaves.net/astrology/neworleans.html

Laurie, great article by Eric Francis. Thanks.

Hello everyone. I'm back with a new hard drive.....costly.

Remember the Bagdad blogger? -here's our own "Interdictor" my son sent me link of a guy still operating in NOLA with live video feed via internet.
amazing feat that!
http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/

tseka
welcome back Pat c

see gallery of his on site photos here
http://www.tampabusiness.com/directnic/
i guess the guys are teleneting stuff aroung the country with assistance from the networking community.
tseka

Will and Ariel Durant wrote a multi volume history of the world over many years. Here is their conclusion:

“We conclude that the concentration of wealth is natural and
inevitable, and is periodically alleviated by violent or peaceable
partial redistribution. In this view all economic history is the slow
heartbeat of the social organism, a vast systole and diastole of
concentrating wealth and compulsive recirculation. ”

Will and Ariel Durant, The Lessons of History

I would say that is what Bush and most of the other repubs are all about.

Over time fewer and fewer folks have more and more wealth. Then there is a revolution and a redistribution... and it starts all over again.

The question: Can we have our revolution at the ballot box? Thats what happened in FDR's time.

From an old Pete Seger Album -- God Bless the Grass:

God bless the grass that grows toward the sun.
They roll the concrete over it,
and think that it is done.
But the concrete gets tired of what it has to do,
It cracks and it crumbles,
and the grass grows through...
And god bless the grass.

God bless the truth that struggles towards the sun.
They roll the lies over it,
and think that it is done.
It moves through the ground and reaches for the air,
And after a while it is growing everywhere,
And God bless the truth.

http://worldvisionportal.org/wvpforum/viewtopic.php?t=296

Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather in 2025
A Research Paper Presented To Air Force 2025
August 1996

In the United States, weather-modification will likely become a part of national security policy with both domestic and international applications. Our government will pursue such a policy, depending on its interests, at various levels....
In the broadest sense, weather-modification can be divided into two major categories: suppression and intensification of weather patterns. In extreme cases, it might involve the creation of completely new weather patterns, attenuation or control of severe storms, or even alteration of global climate on a far-reaching and/or long-lasting scale.....

Extreme and controversial examples of weather modification-creation of made-to-order weather, large-scale climate modification, creation and/or control (or "steering") of severe storms, etc.-were researched as part of this study... the weather-modification applications proposed in this report range from technically proven to potentially feasible.....

Applying Weather-modification to Military Operations....

This just in from John Kerry:

"We will endure and we will survive but we can’t stop working until we get help to all those left suffering."

Oh, and his assessment of the situation now:

"While Americans are united and determined to help the people who are suffering, there is no question that we share a collective anguish and frustration over the inadequate response of the federal government over these past several days. Federal officials must act swiftly in coming hours and days to direct more aid to the region as rapidly as possible."

The most amzing incredible thing happened tonight.

I hit the streets to see what mood the people were in, and found out that a brand new, hep, perfectly deep downtown located Blues club has just opened in my city.

We know what we just lost. The Blues will be preserved and carried on.

And at the monthly Friday Night Artwalk, held all over town in many neighborhoods, had music everywhere spilling into the streets. For the first time.

The Democratic Party Headquarters there was open and jumping.

New Orleans is gone forever. Even if they rebuild it will not be recognized as the same place. It's an intense experience to be in the midst of an event that will go down in history in a big way and will be remembered for its destruction of what was once a great and influentuial cultural mecca. Maybe it's some retribution since we did the same in Iraq. But we are making history now and we feel it.

This is my theory as to why I believe George W. Bush will be leaving the arena. He's done what he intended to do, I think... be the only one in his unremarkable family to go down in history. And he's achieved it.

I think impeachment would be a waste of precious energy. He's finished and we can think about who we want next and prepare. I, personally, would just like to see Rove removed.

We have a chance here. We showed our strength by surviving this without help, so we are the ones with political capital now. We've earned a say.

I think we are about to have a major event in Washington, D.C. on September 24, to discuss.

A lot has been unleashed and set free in the last week.

!!!!!!!!!!THEY KNEW EVERYTHING. THEY ARE GUILTY!!!!!!!!

http://hurricane.lsu.edu/_in_the_news/tmemag0404.htm

******************IMPEACHMENT NOW*******************

Transportation Management + Engineering magazine (TME
April 2004

One of the more critical, though commonly overlooked, aspects of transportation planning and management is evacuation

Though they may be infrequent, the risk of not preparing for evacuations can be devastating. Evacuations have the potential to directly improve the safety of more people than any other single transportation scenario. In New Orleans, where the local topography virtually assures the inundation of the entire metropolitan area in most medium to strong hurricanes, a full evacuation of the area is a necessity and the price of not doing so could be measured in thousands of lives.

In reality, however, there are relatively inexpensive and simple methods that transportation agencies can and are using to improve the efficiency and effectiveness of evacuations.

Most emergency management officials agree that there is not enough roadway capacity or mass transit assets to completely evacuate major metropolitan population centers, like New Orleans or Miami, in two or three days

The number of people without access to transportation in New Orleans has been estimated as high as 25-30% of the population and includes over a quarter million people. In addition to people without vehicles, potential evacuees can include the indigent, elderly, prisoners, the infirm and tourists. Evacuation of these low-mobility and special needs groups is an area that, while included in most state emergency operation plans, has been largely unaddressed by DOTs.

However, many heavily populated cities do not have a sufficient supply of buses to move all low-mobility evacuees. The total number of buses in all of New Orleans would provide only a fraction of the capacity needed to transport all of these people. To counter this problem, Louisiana emergency management officials are working through local churches to encourage “good neighbor” strategies in which neighbors with means of transportation would assist those without during an evacuation.

Source: TM+E April 2004 Vol: 9 Num: 2
Copyright © 2004 Scranton Gillette Communications

Sally, you are right on target. That damn Pluto! Look at this. Retrograde, all Hell breaks loose. Direct, the Grin Reaper appears to escort the war criminals against humanity across the Bridge of Signs into the court of public condemnation. We need the pillory returned to American Justice.

The leadership has no explanation for their actions other than the results.

Have a nice fresh glass of koolaide!

Calls grew yesterday for President Bush to name Rudy Giuliani, the face of the nation's last major disaster test, as point man for the Katrina relief efforts.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/local/story/343028p-292944c.html
PQ

They are going to put a pretty fresh facade of feces over this whole thing & my sleeping Repug friends are going to buy it

NEW ORLEANS - The cursing had stopped. The tears were gone. Mayor Ray Nagin returned from his meeting with President Bush on Friday a picture of calm, leaning back against a railing in a hotel lobby that for the first time in nearly five days wasn't filled with stranded tourists

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050903/ap_on_re_us/katrina_angry_mayor_hk1

Did anyone see Nightline last night? Ted Koppel ( his reporters) did pretty honest comprehensive coverage of N O last night A Senator was interviewed (state? national? missed his name......) whose constituants were directly involved. He was mad because so much time & energy was wasted on beurocratic meetings in Baton Rouge, instead of action. Much discussion of the proper "form" for asking for help. Koppel pressing the Senator for HOW the Govenor had requested aide. Senator mad at the insinuation that the right combination of words was needed to get help.
He ended the program by talking about an exempary SMALL community in Miss. who handled it all on their own. Helped their neighbors, etc. Didn't need FEMA or the Gov. Wonderful resourceful people................Of course they weren't below sea level; didn't have a levee that broke for lack of
funding, didn't have people trapped on rooftops for lack of resources to get out of town. Didn't have the criminal element & drug addicts of a big city! I don't think they even had a hospital to worry about!

Bottom line the Gov is a woman..& the mayor is a black man, and she didn't "use the right form" for requesting aide &
he GOD FORBID, got emotional!
SO lets hand it back to the souless empty eyed white man, who will handle it dispassionately..........IF HE SO CHOSES!
Sharon honey, Use your survivor guilt to speak out about this one if you are able! This is monstrous!
PQ

Welcome back Pat C and I'm sorry you had to fork out precious resources on a new hard drive.

BA, those Seger lyrics brought tears to my eyes. The pavement will crack yet again, again and again.

Everyone is so interesting on this thread, thank you all for your links and thoughts . . . what a family we have.

This is one of the best diaries I've read, really well written and thought-provoking. If you have a minute please read.

RIP, GOP (An Exhortation)
by kingubu
Fri Sep 2nd, 2005 at 17:40:01 PDT

http://dailykos.com/story/2005/9/2/20401/46134

President Bush Hits the Scene, Giving Hope to... Uh, Trent Lott
Posted September 2, 2005 at 2:04 p.m. EDT

So President Bush has finally made it to the scene -- only four days after the storm. Unfortunately, there was no "bullhorn moment" a la his post-9/11 tour of Ground Zero -- no stirring rhetoric. Indeed, his staged briefing with the governors of Alabama and Mississippi did not inspire confidence or hope in anyone -- except maybe Trent Lott. And Lott's realtor. "The good news," said the president, "is that out of this chaos is going to come a fantastic Gulf Coast, like it was before. Out of the rubble of Trent Lott's house -- he's lost his entire house -- there's gong to be a fantastic house. And I'm looking forward to sitting on the porch."

Yes, he actually said that. Way to look on the bright side, Mr. President. "Fantastic!"

The president's sunny-side-up take on the Gulf Coast's Extreme Makeover came after Alabama Governor Bob Riley announced that he was launching "Operation Golden Rule." Uh, Governor... given what the authorities have been "doing unto" the beleaguered victims of Katrina, do you really think that's such a good idea?

During the briefing, FEMA head Michael Brown and Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, stood to the side, looking weak and ineffectual. Which, given their woeful performance and idiotic comments over the past few days, is probably just as well. At least they all had on their getting-down-to-business khakis.

I hope New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin wasn't watching -- his head just might explode.

What the hell was Bill Clinton thinking, standing there next to President Bush and providing verbal cover for the administration's ludicrous claims that the problems plaguing New Orleans were unforeseeable?

He even defended the administration's catastrophic response to Katrina. When asked on CNN whether the federal response was fast enough, Clinton bobbed, weaved, and fell back on this utterly absurd claim: "You and I are not in a position to make any judgment because we weren't there." C'mon, Bill, "...we weren't there"? I know this sucking up business is hard, but you've got to do better than that.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/bill-clinton-suckupin_b_6716.html

Whenever FORM is brought up say :
"why is it ok for Cheney to say 'go f*** yourself' to another senator?"

Rudy Guiliani (Adolph Bulliani, Ghouliani): They all have their hands in blood, don't they?

Arenas: I reported here when a NYC West Side Highway arena was proposed that it was to be built as another holding cell to throw dissenters to the lions. My instincts were correct.

Laurie, great planetwaves article. So many great posts waiting this morning!

The revolution is coming (the Durants were/are on target). I say this for another reason. Psychologically, every single one of us are experiencing the absolute disconnect between the government and "we the people." Even those holding fundamental believes may be SEEing for the first time. They now know that no help will be given to them in any disaster. Their god will not show up, all the money in the world will not save them, their "connections" will not be worth a damn.

The reasons to believe in this government have literally been blown away.

The revolution is here. Rove and all miscalculated. Their undoing will not come soon enough.

karen

Clinton: was never the same after his second heart 'operation' =lobotomy. Became a Bush-enabler right after that. Have lost respect for him altogether.

I keep vibing that Nature is teaching us to downsize our lifestyles. Whoever wrote in a while back about not having a house and car and what are they gonna do if things get bad and they can't have that....well I live in a studio apt for 30 years and I am NOT crying the blues or complaining. All those possessions lead to time distractions from being your authentic self. They create clutter and over collecting. No offense to any AW's since I do not know what you all look like but for heavens sake the average body size in America is now size 12. That is so scary to me. I see middle American tourists here and how large they all are due to poor and fake food diets. All this fat is about GREED. Inner and outer and it shows. Wake up America, we are looking not pretty to the world. GREED = beggar mentality = never enough = addiction. I feel bad for Mother Nature who has to asssimilate all that junk we collect into her body for purification. Shame on us for being so needy. Live large on a small budget. One room is ok. One toilet at a time is all you need. Stop with the 'American Dream' already...it was always just a nightmare of delusion which is the antithesis of freedom within/without.

Kayne West Rules!

Ja Bhakti,
It's greed -desire instead of yearning....I think that is the lesson. I grew up among people who lived in tarpaper shacks. I felt rich because i had a pair of shoes, toe pinching, cracked patent leather, then grew ashamed when i realized that the real riches my friends recognized were the cedar trees in the forest and the salmon in the bay.

I have more than i need now, too much really. Desire for the material still sits in me but less and less. What does exist stongly is a vast yearning for the true riches.

Buddha was born in taurus where we learn about our connection to material world (?) not being an astrologer- it would seem mars transit here with the many connections to the outer planet provides some interesting lesson plans??

tseka

YOU BET YOUR LIFE
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/090205_bet_life.shtml

Thanks for the warm welcome back AW.

When I get to thinking like this, I know I am tired and using an infantile segment of my brain.
I was thinking how incredibly ironic that the blow that mother nature gave us is at the heart of oil refinary and pumping terrain (Gulf of Mexico). We have devasted, through our own actions, many of Iraq's oil fields just by our presence and our war to secure them. We cozy up to the Saudi's just for their oil. We will terrorize Iran and Venezuala because they won't bend over. And the Shrub regime is all about oil.

Absurd? Ironic? Or is there a profound balancing act at work here?

Dear Sharon, I’m glad you’re doing relatively well. The place on the lake sounds lovely and I’m sorry you have to leave it! Sharon, it makes no difference at all that you’re not struggling to make it through at the Superdome or Convention Center. You’ve suffered a HUGE trauma. There’s a book by psychologist Peter Levine Ph.D. called “Waking the Tiger” that addresses dealing with trauma. He’s really an expert. And interestingly enough, he’s on the front range in Colorado. His office phone number is 303-678-7455. He has a wholly unique theory (and treatment) of trauma. I urge you to call him, in all seriousness. The synchronicity of life is a truly wonderful and magical thing. I urge you as strongly as I can to take advantage of this opportunity. Please, please do call him. I know he can help. Trauma is trauma, and it makes no sense to compare. You’ve lost your home, for God’s sake! You’re still alive and you’ve got resources and you’re not stuck in NO or the astrodome, etc., and there’s some reason for that, Sharon. Go find the reason. Lots and lots of love to you and Myron (take him to see Peter, too!), Lori

One problem, BA, is that we don't have ballot boxes anymore. We have voting machines manufactured, programmed, and maintained by Bush Rangers.

Thank you, Lori, and everyone else for your good wishes and suggestions, and these great posts(please forgive me if I don't name everyone; I'm reading this fast as I have to share the internet + get busy recreating an email address book for my new yahoo email address, so I can keep in touch with people. We also have to repack and refine our plans, accordingly, as you may imagine. I'm leaning towards visiting New Orleans quickly before we drive to CO to get all of our important papers, some warm clothes and maybe a few valuables. I'm actually more worried about identity theft if anyone breaks in and gets to our account numbers. I will keep the info about Peter on hand, Lori, just in case. Meanwhile, Myron and I have been trying to share our emotions about all of this in some long talks (although sometimes I have to make him to attend to this).

Our mayor and our governor are wonderful, PatQP et al.!!!!!

I love them very much for their round-the-clock efforts and concern. How many cities would actually be prepared for this? I'm sorry we were not better prepared but I can't fault the mayor and governor more than a little bit, although I don't know who holds the purse strings. The City Council? The state House and Senate? I'm not sure who makes those decisions.

One think I am sure of is there shouldn't have to be a proper "Form" for asking for help. Those who have eyes can see and those who have a heart can feel.

We'll be here in Norther, LA about a week more, I think, so I'll have daily internet access.

Thanks for posting that blog that's active and online right now in N.O. That was good info, although I think the blogger may be leaving...not sure though.

Talk to you good people later,
Love,
Sharon

Forgot to mention my new email address:

Sharonellenkatz@yahoo.com

Received this from a friend in CO today. Many images and much to think about.

Thought maybe you all could appreciate a brief break.

Silence and inner peace.

OG
______________________

Molasses

The tall, brown stained jar
resting on the table,
too close to the edge,
filled with rich, sweet
molasses.

The homemade kind
made with care,
an old family recipe.
cooked for years
on top of grandmas' hot wood stove.
She hoarded it
Didn't want to share it with anyone.

A breeze from the window
fluttered the curtains,
the family out in back,
sitting and watching football
and eating barbequed chicken,
fried vegetables and sipping coke.

Wind clattered the shutters
the jar tipped, just a little bit,
moved a little closer to the edge,
and cheers from a touchdown
wafted from the back door.

Neighbors,
packing their truck,
leaving for the storm.
Are you coming?
No, we'll wait for our check on Thursday
and then get over to auntie's house in Georgia.
Did you get the score? They are 7 points, ahead?

A gust of wind, toppled the jar,
it smashed on the floor,
glass, the slow ooze
of the thick, brown molasses.
moving over the floor, in all directions,
creeping toward, the corners,
filling in the cracks on the wood floor,
that hadn't been finished in 10 years.

A door on the pantry flew open,
with another gust,
and another jar,
of the precious,
rich , brown, molasses
shattered on the floor.
Creeping toward the sink,
the place that had sagged,
five years ago,
after the last storm.

And then pooling there
and filling it up,
a spider, skittering in the wind,
got caught in the pool
and its nimble legs, stuck
in the thick goo.

The tv in the back,
crashed to the ground with the next gust,
with shouts about another touch down;
the family scattering behind trees,
holding onto the little ones.
And where is grandma?
A car flew through the air
and landed on the porch.

All the jars in the pantry
flew out and hit the kitchen floor,
mangled layers of brown sticky, goo
glass, dirt, wood
part of grandma's apron,
got stuck on the hook,
lashing around wildly in the wind.

The wall of water,
that the family never saw,
must have been 30 feet,
crashed on top of the
house.

splinters, cracking,
flying wood, clanking of metal, screams,
cries; where are the little ones?
where is grandma?

the old truck,
plunged into the muck,
with one terrifying thrust.
with it's bottom sticking
up out of the sand.

a plastic trike with a wheel stuck,
the waves lapping at the roof,
grandma's rocker, floating on top.

The commentators, viewing, heliocopters flying over,
talking; "a terrible storm."
The politicians saying, "we are doing everything we can, just be
patient.
Now lets finish this round of golf."

Charlie, resting in his wood boat,
looked over the damage.
He stayed behind,
moving several miles inland with his family,
rested out the storm
behind an old cypress tree
anchored to its roots,
like his granddaddy had.

His grand son asked, "is this the most
terrible storm? That's what they are saying."
"No Sam, this is a perfect storm.
Big storms always turn things over
in just the right way."

"Now, lets see what your grandma is cooking for dinner."

Suzi Martineau © 2005
Boulder, Colorado

While they're lying their way through the latest disaster, it's interesting to have an earlier one being uncovered so well. Rather lengthy article, but very important.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050902/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_the_wmd_story_2

http://villagevoice.com/blogs/bushbeat/archive/001242.php
Rotten to the Corps
In New Orleans, that is, while money for Corps of Engineers water projects floods into Iraq

Old Granny,

Thank you so much.

Sharon,
I didn't say quite enough to make myself clear! I think your Mayor & Governor are terrific. And they were totally unsupported!
"Bottom line the Gov is a woman..& the mayor is a black man, and she didn't "use the right form" for requesting aide &
he GOD FORBID, got emotional!"
SO lets hand it back to the souless empty eyed white man, who will handle it dispassionately..........IF HE SO CHOSES!
The sentance in quotes is NOT MY opinion........................It's how I see the smear starting by the Repugs! They will try to pin the blame on these 2 VERY REAL HUMAN BEINGS!

From DU ( 6th article down)
This was on the episode of BBC World News which played on a local (Philadelphia area) PBS station at 6:00 am this morning.
Sat Sept 3
"So what we did was we activated what we call defense coordinating officers to work with the state to say okay, what do you think you'll need, and we set up staging bases that could be started. We had the USS Baton sailing almost behind the hurricane so that after the hurricane made landfall it's search and rescue helicopters would be available almost immediately. So we had things ready. The only caveat is, we have to wait until the President authorizes us to do so. The laws of the United States say that the military can't just act in this fashion, we have to wait for the President to give us permission."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/
PQ

Good article PatQOP, There was a Navy officer on Air America the day after this disaster who was saying the same thing, and they tried to get an ok to go in from the President and could not. I did write the BBC and the Guardian asking them to stop calling these people "refugees" they are not. They are American Citizens and have not had to be sent from their country. They are displaces, evacuees, survivors and they are still in their country.

A friend of mine (who is black) said she was 27 years old before she knew she was an American because no one ever treated her as such or spoke to her as such. And now I hear them being called refugees as if they have lost their country

I didn't mean to implythink you were criticizing our governor & mayor, PatQP. I was more or less reacting to the right wingers who are saying the local & state gov. was not prepared and we are unnecessarily criticizing the pResident!!!

We are SO proud of our mayor and governor, but particularly of our mayor because he has told the truth about the lack of response very directly and cast aside the need to be politically correct. He is the best! He has been worried from the word go and done everything within his power to help. Maybe the locals could have been more proactive...I'm sure they could have...but obviously they were hampered by funds. Unfortunatey, these people and this city has to be the scapegoat so that the entire country and all of the governing entities can now see the need to put safety and protection above more frivalous concerns. Just maybe this will awaken a few dense brains to the waste of our resources to rebuild a country we tore down, as well as the need to act more proactively against global warning. In fact, the lesson here should be to not trust government, as Bill O'Reilly of all people said.

I didn't have the patience to read every word of OG's poem, but it definitely is right-on.

My astrology mentor told me that the black race was ruled by Neptune. They do seem to take the burden of suffering of mankind on their shoulders. And spiritual advancement also seems to be theirs.

The white businessmen bought the black people from the dealers, chained them in ships, and confined them here into slavery. Then they they set them free with no survival skills in the immense white world, where they proceeded to hang them from trees. Then came all these years of oppression and recently the snatching back of the vote they were falsely 'given'. The white rock fake musicians stole their blues and made billions.
But the black man always triumphs. They can't take away that infinite capacity for joy and laughter that accompanies the American Negro through all his experience, and that has always filled the white man with an indescribable longing. Endless envy.

If this keeps up, the black man will be a superhuman. They have lived through it all and this is something they are equipped to handle. Soon the destitute white man will be seeing and hearing that unmistakable ring of joy and laughter as they recover once again. There is always compensation somewhere for the things we are denied. The sick bloated white man will soon be witnessing triumph an an elevation of human spirit. And once again, he will be left out.

From blues singer Skip James:

Hard times here, everywhere you go
Times is harder than they ever been before

If I ever get off this killing floor, I'm not goin' down this low on more.

And of course, the old traditional blues:

Sun's gonna shine on my back door someday.

((((((((((((((Sharon))))))))))))))))))
You have probably seen this.......posting it for the rest of AW
A Disaster Waiting to Happen

http://www.bestofneworleans.com/dispatch/2004-09-28/cover_story.html
PQ

I don't think now is a good time for hate, fear, and dire predictions. People have done so much of that.
We've got to help these people and our country. To turn away from the man eating monsters, stop feeding them energy, and scurry over to the good side where safety awaits.
Helping others is a relief.

Well, my post apparently didn't take.

Try again. A friend of mine's daddy lost everything in Mississippi. The only thing I could think of was to send money.

Here is an article I found:

http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/090205Pfeiffer/090205pfeiffer.html

Jm,

I know that you are trying to uplift the image of the "black man" and I commend you for that. However, I must say I don't think that the "black man" is ruled by anything other than the general planetary energies that we deal with as individuals. We are children of this Earth. We are all so genetically linked that we truly are brothers.

I live in a world where race catogoization is more of an upper-class anglo concern then a concern for us. I know that I look very anglo unlike my cousins, yet we all feel the same way. It's kinda funny that I look anglo but speak better Spanish then they do, while they look very indian and can't speak a lick.

I think with the younger generation which is more mixed, less racist, and less prejudice, the concept of race will die out with the dodo bird.

As for now, I think this horrific event just shows that Bush and Co. only care about Americans when it is politically advanteous. That is why he visited those rich mansions on the beaches of Mississippi before we even thought about New Orleans. Rich christian conservatives in Miss. are his people - not the poor downtrodden minorities in New Orleans. The republican mindset is - "if you are not like us, you are not one of us. Therefore, you are less human then us." This is truly the republican mantra. Sick isn't it.

One of the arts' districts in my town is collecting art supplies which will be delivered by art therapists to help the children who survived Katrina.

And here's a good one:

"Europtics is holding 'Eye of the Storm', a monthlong promotion where, for every pair of eyeglasses purchased, Europtics will donate a pair of glassas for hurricane victims."

What a thought. I bet a lot of folks will need them.

"The republican mindset is - "if you are not like us, you are not one of us. Therefore, you are less human then us." This is truly the republican mantra. Sick isn't it."

Travieso, my friend. This is the same thing as racism. Republicans are part of this genetic pool you just spoke of and the are all individually unique. It does us all no good to keep hating them so much. This kind of blanket judgement without knowing anything about the individual sets us back. I understand completely how you feel but we've got to stop hating sometime.

Feel that the souls who have taken on this trauma karma in their physical bodies are leaving a legacy to wake up America, forcing America to look in the mirror and feel it's pain. Sending them off in the highest vibrations of light. Swaha. America has the history of doing in their natives. (Beasley, the best time is when we go back to the freedom of the child; child-like is not childish. In the moment is the point of wonder and not projection). Karma payback for the need for oil (or to be) above human life. Makes sense to me. And wasn't the Governor of MS the one who helped polluters by lowering standards for ecological protections.
Saw him on TV this week, was quite the neonazi looking type with his thugs behind him, yowza! Shakti Bitch slap, do not mess with mother nature. Weren't there casinos in Biloxi? the fast buck sleazy mentality was bringing in the bucks to MS?
MS is the only state to not have a state picturebook award. I'd say it payback time, it's Nature's way to cleanse the Earth. I now totally see what might have happened to mythological Atlantis.
Long Live New Orleans the city that set us free.

* is toast from here on in. The sharks are circling they smell blood. Met my FOX TV cousin for lunch today and she said 'he really screwed this one up'. Was held in a subway car on the A line for 30 minutes just before. Police action , someone on the track. For a while we had no power. It got dark and hot and my bladder was full. Silently did the mantra but could hear my voices and I had fantasies on how to get out even if I had to have a hissy fit. People of all stripes were quiet and kept the frustration level low key. I totally thought of NO and it was said on the train as well as * is a @%$%. Tee Hee, the world knows.

I'm not hating, I'm angry. There is a difference. Sure, the republican party is made up of individuals - individuals that I respect on a personal level everyday because I work with them, live them, and socialize with them. However, I have a right to my feelings for what this adminsitration has done in the name of that party they have voted for... and anger brings the social and political change we need so that people like me aren't treated like second-class citizens.

I used to think 20 years ago that someday people like me would be excepted by the year 2000. Liberalism and progressive thought was just so rational and loving that all would see it for what a great idea it was. But, I have seen somethings get worse because we have not fought for our rights. So now, I fight whenever I can for my rights are a human being in non-violent and peaceful discourse. And this comes out of anger, because I realise now that my rights will not be given to me, I have to fight for them.

You see, that's the difference between hate and anger. Anger is what MLK and Ghandi felt. It was what spurred them to seek change. Hate is what Rudolph and skinheads feel which have led them to dehumanize others and a life of violence. That is the difference.

Travieso - Very well said. MLK and Gandhi channeled their anger in constructive ways instead of letting it turn into hatred.

A dog is a dog. It can be a Dachsund, Beagle, Labrador, Pit Bull or whatever, but they are all dogs. Same thing with cats, sharks, bears, snakes and so on.

When people wake up to the fact that regardless of skin color, sexuallity, status, or religion we are all HUMANS and all deserve peace, love, acceptance and security, then we will have an end to the atrocities that we see and experience.

We as humans need to stop the labels that try to define and divide us as this or that and get down to the basic reality of life. We all have the same needs.

Mebbe we need to work on appreciating & loving differences! ...instead of requiring that we be seen as all the same. I would detest being invited to a feast that served nothing but pink mashed potatoes... with no trimmings either. TaHA!!

Breaking news: local faux news channel reports William Rehnquist has died.

Pink supremacist boyz have demonized differences & "made" the rest of us embarrassed about them. I say we TAKE BACK DIFFERENCES!!!!

Good! Rehnquist has gone to that Great Cosmic Compost Heap in the Earth. Now he's a blessing.

Rehnquist is dead.

Let's hope that no more of Robertson's obscene prayers get answered.

So, any bets as to possible names georgie may put forth for the court? In light of the Katrina timing, methinks he better think very carefully. Am I too optimistic to think that he may even relent and put forward a moderate to curry political favor for his recent screwups?

Bhakti, I love your subway stories. On one of the scrolls at the bottom of MSNBC or CNN (not sure which) I saw where Bush had been meeting (at his request) with Black leaders to ask what they could do to improve their performance and the black leaders said he was quiet and listened. (I think they are scrambling to cover their butts, I think they know they have screwed up royally)

Too little, too late, Sally. Listening NOW (if that is actually what he is doing) doesn't change anything. Incalculable damage has already been done, because he and his people didn't give a damn about listening much earlier to those who knew better than them.

Were I one of the black leaders, I would have given Bush my two cents in one word: RESIGN.

We have not seen the worst yet. Disease is sure to follow. Great epidemics all over the south at least.

I just called my daughter (a Nurse) who is just waiting to be told where to go, to tell her to take her own gloves, masks and alcohol squares.

I received this from one of our posters "je" and she couldn't transfer it to post, so I am doing it for her. I encourage everyone to read it, because it shows what we are actually up against in the United States.

For 5 years we have all seen things that we couldn't believe could or would happen in the United States of America but it's happening. We didn't believe people would tolerate any of what we've seen. We didn't believe people would support the Constitutional abandonment of how a President is elected, we didn't believe the public would stand for a white wash of 9/11, or the lies of the Iraqi war, or deliberately letting American citizens starve and die of thirst, but we have.

I had a terrifying conversation with my fundamentalist Christian sister, who would rather see those people die in New Orleans than spend any federal monies to save them. She would rather see her tax dollars go toward Iraq, than to the United States. I met a young man today (about 30) didn't even know what had happened in New Orleans. What we believe can't happen is happening, I encourage you to read this article and start to acknowledge the desperate need for leaders.

http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/BageantTheCovertKingdom.html

For what it is worth, the chart for land fall of hurricaine Katrina (placidus) has the ascendent conjunct the fixed star Regulus within one degree (the ascendent is at 0 Virgo), and Busch on the cusp of the 4th at 27 Scorpio opposing the fixed star Caput Algol at 28 Taurus conjunct the MC. The asteroid Chaos is in the 10th at 7 Gemini conjunct Juno (the whirl wind, among many definitions). The asteroid Hel is at 0 Capricorn, 10 degrees from transiting Pluto and 5 degrees from the chart's vertex at 5 Capricorn.

Mercury, which rules the ascendent is in the 12th, awash in confusion opposing Neptune in the 6th. The Sun in the first house opposes Uranus in the 7th, squaring Chaos and Juno in the 10th.

Capricorn, the sign on the fixed fifth house of gambling, creativity, speculation and children, finds it's ruler also in the 12th at 5 Leo, which puts a lid on further acts of gambling, both in the literal sense and in the realm of this administration's thinking (a hurricaine of this magnitude won't happen here; we will wager that it won't happen and send money to Iraq instead). Whatever creative, constuctive plans necessary to rebuild this city, this state and surrounding areas will be confused, slow and perhaps ridden by karmic influences. And a few secret deals are in the offing. Still, Chiron is in the 5th at 28 Capricorn, trining Caput Algol and the MC in Taurus. Perhaps the wounded healer, which so often wounds before it helps to heal will aid the reconstructive process.

The hubris of the Venus/Jupiter in Libra conjunct the South Node in the 2nd house of finance and values remind me of the chart of the destruction of Pearl Harbor, wherein one saw the same type of signature.

These are just a few of my impresssions reading this chart.

Oh, I almost forgot. The moon today, is square the moon of Katrina's land fall. Today, the moon is at 6 Libra. A week ago it was at 8 Cancer.

Hello All,

Someone asked about whether Vedic Astrology had a take on all this. Basically, whenever Jupiter is afflicted, natural and mass catastrophes are prevalent. This has been the case for about two years now. Also, Saturn aspects Ketu causing major constriction of resources. Many practitioners in the Vedic system follow Pluto too, but as Saturn and Ketu move closer, (They will conjoin in sidereal Leo in 2007) things will worsen. At least with Jupiter free of Saturn's influence, laws won't be corrupted quite as much.

Bush leaves his Saturn major period on May 13, 2006. We can expect serious decline or even a departure from office shortly after this. I am thinking that election scandals will start to be uncovered.

All the best,

Gary Gomes

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