AW lives. As Morgana says, "We have returned from the ashes....."

AW lives! Morgana rocks! Many thanks for a really neat and insightful article!

Thank you so much Morgana. What a relief to see the site back up and an article by you posted at the same time. I don't know what caused the damage but I am grateful the harm has been healed and is now part of the past. This is the best astrology on the web, (I know, I read them all) and a resource we simply cannot afford to be without during these crucial days.

It makes me mindful of how we all have to do our part, so with that in mind, my donation is on the way.

Have you considered talking to the host of www.bartcop.com? He also hosts American Politics Journal as well, and boasts that he can handle any site that's having problems due to being anti-Bush or pro-Democrat. He is also a webmaster for the EFF as well, and used to run a full-time computer store and web provider as well.

Morgana, you and your writing are wonderful gems. As is our wonderful AW. Thanks, Sally, for getting the site up again; it's a valued part of our lives.

Thanks Morgana for this welcome relief and terrific article. As for the site, I appreciate all your suggestions but I feel I have the best researchers on the web working on this. There are two separate companies one takes care of the front page and the other takes care of the publishing, and it's the publishing one that has been the problem. I will see how this works but the next wall will be the necessity to "sign up" in order to post. Several sites have had to go to this and I will very likely follow suit fairly soon. Thanks for your patience and understanding and thanks for all the posters who sent suggestions, but I want to assure you that I've talked to all the major bloggers and know what happened and how it happened and what is a better way to handle it all.

Sally you're most welcome and I do so enjoy writing my little ditties for AW. I think Katrina is gona make the Shurb miserable. And a miserable hot, angry People will roil. Have you noticed that States taking up the cause of Global Warming and enacting State Laws bringing themselves into accord with Kyoto, since the Feds are encapable of leading.

when is Pat fitzgerald going to finish his report
on rogue rowe and the cronies? Either he is working very fast OR there is unprecedented stone
walling form you know who? We're losing our patience. you think the report will be done by 2010?

This is off topic. But I read this white supremist web site and they are going to JOIN WITH CINDY. They are anti war also. They where calling on their members to go.

I misread it the first time and thought they where anti Cindy and got scared for her, but it is more support for her. I did not give the link, cause i don't think you want to go the Stormtroopers led by David Duke. I just hope Cindy can keep them from any nonsense. I saw her just a bit ago and she seems to look more rested and she said "I know we are going to stop the Iraqi war."

I saw the road that the police are doing a good job of seperating the Cindy group from the Bush group. They have had 3 arrests of people who did not follow their orders. The cops seem to be pro Cindy.

I did want to say a few words about the storm. I have been in pretty close touch with it living in Florida, but we have had very little.

It will be horrible if it hits New Orleans or closely east or is it west of there. So I am calling on you all to pray or what ever you do to get the angels attention. If it plays out as predicted it might completely wipe out New Orleans.

This has been an odd ball so far. Never have I known one to just turn south for that great lenght. I don't know how to do the math but it went out 90 miles south of where it would have just going west. And it is about 90 miles across the state. So that side of the triangle is how far it went south and what they just don't do. And it raced across the state and picked up strenght when it should have weakened over land.

Morgana, good to have you here again. Question: Is the hurricane's landfall when the eye touches or when the weather station says the edge hits?
Hope your summer is going well.

Beasley, a 12:05PM natal chart for Pat R causes his Part of Fortune to be conjunct natal Swindle (asteroid 8690). At 20degress Aries it would place them in his busy 10th house along with his Sun, Uranus, Venus, and Pallas. Wish we knew his birth time.

Morgana, I did see where some states were enacting laws in line with Kyoto. I also see Pluto has nearly reached it's stationary direct period going direct on the 2nd of Sept. Pluto for such a little planet packs a big energy wollop and never more so than when it's stationary direct, this time it's stationary opposite US Mars. Katrina puts me in mind of "The Taming of the Shrew."

I used the time posted by news reports and NOAA. In her case not much is going to make a difference. Maybe some good ole weather magic.

Just a little bit about hurricanes for you land locked people.

We are not cleaned up from last year. I don't know about the pan handle as I am way south. We still have clumps of trees and branches waiting for them to be picked up.another huricane picks up all this stuff up and flings them into windows etc.

But the worst is that the roofs have not been fixed. Fema put plastic on the roofs and I can look out my window and still see it on roofs. There are 3 reasons for this one is that for each hrricane we had they doubled the deductable till many people could not pay the deductable. two the insurance companies have dribbled out the money till people only got enough to patch and patch again till they used it up that way. three there is a great shortage of roofing material, there seems to be enough labor but no material.

Another thing is that we have thousands of people living in Fema mobile homes. All those people plus all the ones on the beach and those who just normally live in mobile homes have no place to evacuate to. Not enough buildings in the most needed areas to hold all those people.

Personally I had it easy. I live in a senior apt. building and our electric went out for close to a week. And we had people in wheel chairs stuck on the 3rd floor and no way to get them down. And all our carpets where soaked but that was a fault of the building constuction more than the huricane.

Now this kind of thing brings out the best and worst of people. Some people where just angry because the management could not committ magic. Others where helping their neighbor climbing the stairs to see that everyone had food and water and if you had 2 of something, you gave the neighbor the other.

We loved the electric guys and especially the the garbage man. when the electric goes off everyone has to dump their refrigerator contents in a dumpster which is not built for that. And we had a part of a roof on an electric line that they had to manever past. They made it and we loved them for it. And the red cross brought us ice after a few days. Do you know how good ice water tastes in 90 + heat after several days of tap water? But the biggest treat was some one's son who managed to find 2 of those big round cartons of ice cream. Where he got frozen ice cream I don't know but he found some store that the electric did not go off and brought enough for everyone.

The politicians made us furious in the main part. They would fly over in their helicopters for photo ops. They held up emergency crews by stopping trafic getting to one photo opt to another. Senator Nelson was great. He got on the radio and just told us what to do. No big photo ops or traffic stopping just good information. He also personally helped us as the norhern management would not even get on the phone to let us tell them that we had mold in the building. they just keep saying there was no mold. I called Nelson's office and belive me they talked to me after that. A bit nasty since I got him involved but things got taken care of after that.

Jean I can really emphasize. After being approved by FEMA and SBA in for El Nino 98 landslides I lost both my houses to shanigans, and of course the government never paid out. Infact Bush recalled all unspent or doled out funds to piss away in the sands of Iraq along with the blood of our children. I've started over from square one. Living in the mountains we are often isolated for days without electricity (30,000 plus folks here), but I found the best in my neighbors and the citizens of the little town I live in. We have to fend for ourselves. I'm also about five miles from Loma Prieta site of the 1989 SF quake, so am well familiar with disasters of another sort. All the same the people end up helping each other and the pols take photo ops.

empathize geeze spelling sorry.

Go here to keep up with Katrina in real time.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/gmex-vis-loop.html

AW is back! and Morgana! Ode to Joy... double the pleasure

Laurie thanks for that url. The latest strike cone (weather channel) has that Mars line dropping right in there. I hope those folks get the heck out of harms way! Though goodness knows I can't imagin California successfully doing it. That last non Tsumami a couple months back showed that the warning system didn't work, unless of course you cruised by the weather channel. We ended up calling folks we knew in San Francisco, they were clueless.

Morgana, thank you for looking at the astrology of this storm and I must say I am very worried about the New Orleans area since they are so low. Many that live there have no way to evacuate as they don't own vehicles. It would be mostly the poor of the area that would suffer, the ones who have no way to leave. We should be spending money on getting these people out of the area instead of our resources going to the Iraq war.

Here's a link to some interesting information on the storm:

http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/8/27/17546/6229

Rich is (once again) a rich read:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/28/opinion/28rich.html?ei=5089&en=91d8ac21cc31d02c&ex=1282881600&partner=rssyahoo&emc=rss&pagewanted=print

BIG ERROR ON THE STORY ABOUT CINDY AND WHITE SUPREMIST. They tracked the web site back to a holocaust fund raising site in Palm Beach, Florida.

My head is spinning. I got it right by reading it wrong.

They are probaby trying to do harm to Cindy's group. It is like the trogen (sp?) horse all over again.

It is on Whatreally Happened site that got the web site. Scroll down to Stormtroppers Hoax.

Morgana I forgot to say how much I liked your artical. It just goes to show how well astrologer works with a great astrologer doing it.

I know the loss of your house was awful, but I got the feeling that you are really happy with your new life style. I did not really loose much. An old carboard thing that had drawers. Remember those? Boy am I glad I was forced to replace it. One of those things I was going to do one of these days.

What is digusting is that they pull that stuff and then brag about how they did so much and only those directly affected know better. Thank heaven for the web.

For some reason my fears for New Orleans has abated. 36 hours can make a big difference.

Oh, thank you, Sally and Morgana! Just in time--I was suffering from AW deprivation.

Carol, glad you mentioned American Politics Journal. I signed up for their emails and get "Pundit Pap" every Sunday night or Monday. It is so pleasant to get the gist of the Sunday talk shows without having to watch them. Like having a smart-ass politically savvy friend telling you who said what.

Jill G, what degree and sign is astroid Swindle? Got to check that out with the chart of a swindler I know.

* If only bush knew what heartache these mothers, like Cindy Sheehan, feel...

For his age, he's wise He's got his mother's eyes There's gladness in his heart He's young and he's wild My only prayer is, if I can't be there, Lord, protect my child

As his youth now unfolds He is centuries old Just to see him at play makes me smile No matter what happens to me No matter what my destiny Lord, protect my child

While the world is asleep You can look at it and weep Few things you find are worthwhile And though I don't ask for much No material things to touch Lord, protect my child

He's young and on fire Full of hope and desire In a world that's been raped, raped and defiled If I fall along the way And can't see another day Lord, protect my child

There'll be a time I hear tell When all will be well When God and man will be reconciled But until men lose their chains And righteousness reigns Lord, protect my child

- Bob Dylan

Yea!!! Glad to see that AW is back up and running!

If this hurricane progresses to Cat 4 and is comes in the New Orleans area it will be catastrophic. The city sits about 10 feet below sea level and during the last 10 years or so, floods severly with an inch or two of rain in a lot of areas. I get the feeling it will be a Camille or Andrew redux. This one is not good. The water temps onlong the coast are in the 90's. Just saw that they are predicting 140 MPH winds and who knows what the storm surge will be.

If you have ever been to N'awlins or spent time in the swamps of La you'll know what I'm talking about. I hope those in the path get out safely.

Barbara,
You click on the "Astrodienst" in the column down the right side of the Astroworld home page under the caption "Astro Information". Click on "Free Horoscope" at the top of the page and fill in the information. When you click the "continue" button you will be able to pick from a list of types of horoscopes and if you click on "extended chart selections" you will be on the page that gives you options of what you want to show up in your final chart. Down at the bottom of the page you can type into the little box the number 8690 for the asteroid Swindle to show up on the final chart you're making.
It is really simple once you get the hang of it. Let me know how it comes out.

Just posted at the bottom of the last thread before I realized this one was up.

I'm so happy Sally's site is back...what a relief. Thanks, Morgana for addressing this topic. New Orleans is ruled by Taurus, you know, so I guess Mars is coming to get us!

We weren't going to evacuate but have changed our minds and now hear that she's Category IV. So we'll be evacuating in the morning after boarding up and hope to drag my sister-in-law and mother-in-law with us. We'll all have a place to stay in Northern Lousiana.

New Orleans IS very vulnerable and I am worried about the people who don't leave, especially the ones outside of the city, near the coast. Homes are mostly made of wood - and Katrina will split them like matchsticks, as well as take down all the venerable old, moss-hung, spreading oaks (some with limbs touching the ground). I am sad at the thought of what might happen.

The storm still can curve away from us a bit, but either way, she's trouble.

Jean, I hope you're right and have a psychic intuition that somehow it won't be as bad as it could be. But please, everyone, do pray for Katrina's landfall to somehow be weak, no matter where she comes ashore.

I'll be in touch.

Sharon

Wow. I'm shocked. I thought Katrina was fizzling out after hitting mainland in Florida as a weak Category 1. And then I turn on the radio this afternoon to the national news and find out that she's come back from the dead, and with a vengeance!

We all know the Gulf waters are quite capable of rejuvenating a cyclone spiralling off the mainland, but who would have ever imagined that they would have rebuilt Katrina and and put her on steroids? A Category 4? Poor New Orleans!

Welcome back Captain Sally and AW.

Morgana,
I enjoyed the very descriptive images in your article.
With the aspects touching key planets in my chart I seem to be a mini Katrina walking around up here.
When Eric was transferred to the local nursing home they dropped the ball on getting the right meds, quickly enough. As a result he was too weak to go out yesterday ( the whole purpose for moving him here near the coast!)
One would think that when a hospital spends a week, stabilizing a patient's pain mangagement; they would be able to send those same meds on to the new location. NO! Each facility is it's own closed circuit! The night nurse is a "homegirl" from Southern NJ, so he's in good hands with her!
There isn't one person working in the Milbridge facility, that supports this admin! Also I see that our 2 Rep. Senators, are both disinchanted with B, and saying so publically!

I posted on Aug 25 AM that I couldn't sleep the night before!
Negroponte was within 100 miles or less for a canoe trip on the Penobscot River!!!!!!!!!
That day I had to euthanize Cinnamon, the "eclipse cat"! She had a tumor too big for surgery!
(((((((((((((((Sharon))))))))))))))))) safe passage through this difficult time. I hope Kat fails to turn North, just keeps on west to TX!
PQ

Have you noticed...NO NEWS about Poppy & Uncle Dick's trip to Saudi A, not even on the net!
PQ

Condolences on Cinnamon from a sister catowner. I remember all that you said about your eclipse cat

Katrina just upgraged to a 5....160 mile per hour winds, headed toward New Orleans.

Pat QofP - Um We do not want Katrina to come to Texas. Just because Schrub and co came from here is not a reason to wish that. I live in Houston and believe it or not we are purple here, not red or blue and THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN by OHIO and Florida! I really can't fathom why someone would wish that on anyone.

Like I said in my post last night. This one will be worse then Camille and Andrew.

Good luck Sharon!!! Head West!!! This storm will create severe damage many miles inland.

Also, Houston is only 50 miles from the coast and trying to get out of here on short notice would be very hard. Either way I am getting my supplies together.

Get out of there, Sharon. We here at Astroworld need you alive!!!!

Take you belongings nad yoru family and get out of there as soon as possible!!!

Please be safe!!!

Just announced on CBS that Katrina is the strongest storm to hit this part of the world, ever.

Katrina is scheduled to hit land at high tide. Predicting 25 foot storm surge.

There's a diary at Kos that will be updating regularly.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/8/28/72225/2194

((((((((((holding those near the storm in love and protection))))))))))

They just announced mandatory evacuation of the entire city of New Orleans for the first time in the city's history.

Firstly, Bush did not come from Texas - born in New Haven, raised in Maine, and went to Yale. Thank you.

And if we are really enlightned, we shouldn't wish harm on anyone.

Tavieso - I don't think Pat Q meant it that way, it just came out that way. And I know where the twit is from and what his background is. I am a lifelong Tx resident, unlike 2/3 of this state now. If they did not come from another state, they came from Mexico and beyond. People just think he's from here. It sucks, but that's how people think these days.

Also, people tend to forget that before the ahole got in power here, Texas was always a Democratic state. Now we are over run by people from the north and beyond.

Where is Ann Richards when we need her so badly???

http://www.wunderground.com/blog/SteveGregory/

CATASTROPHIC HURRICANE APPROACHING NEW ORLEANS REGION

The latest RECON data and Hi-RES imagery indicates Katrina is now a Record Breaking and Extremely powerful CAT Hurricane

The storm is located 25.9N/ 87.9W -- 300 miles SSE of Gulfport, MS, and 270 miles SSE of the Mississippi Delta. Central pressure of 908MB, an eye diameter of 22NM, and max winds of 153KTS (measured 2 hrs ago). This implies a Max sustained surface winds of 160mph, with gusts to 190mph.

These is DEEP into CAT 5 territory. The thermal eyewall has attained a phenomenal 20degC temperature differential.

This central pressure is very close to that recorded in Camille in 1969 - the most powerful land falling hurricane in U.S. history, with a storm surge of 25' in some locations. As surmised last evening in my final update, if the eye wall was to shrink to 15NM diameter, we would have another Camille -- except it is a larger storm than Camille. This storm will produce the most catastrophic damage in modern times if it maintains it's intensity and projected track. The repercussions of which will be felt nationwide for a very long time come.

The exact track - and even the exact intensity of Katrina at landfall is still simply too difficult to predict with the type of precision everyone would like. But the latest track consensus forecast continues to show a Katrina moving over New Orleans proper at 2PM Monday, but striking the Mississippi Delta by around 9AM. ** IF ** Katrina maintains CAT 5 intensity all the way to the coast, a storm surge of 24-28 feet will hit the Delta region, and near 20 feet at the entrance the Lake Borgne which lies just east of Lake Ponchartrain. The wave heights within 20 miles of the northeast eyewall will attain 60-70 feet which will ride atop the 25 foot storm surge itself.

Jo posted this over on Salon

http://www.geocities.com/hurricanene/hurricanecamille.htm

Let's give white light to all those facing Katrina.

((((((white light and Love))))))

Pat C, I wasn;t thinking of you personally. I was jsut making a general statement when people in general think Bush is from Texas. Sorry if it was taken that way.

Travieso, it was not me who mentioned Bush. It was our other beloved Pat QOP.

I just want to say that I feel for the good people of Texas. The other fools are on their own with a higher power that they may still access.

OMG! Katrina now has 175MPH winds.....Oh, this is horrible. I pray that everyone gets out of harms way.

A few weeks ago I had a dream of a very large wave and darkness that I could not escape. I thought that it had something to do with the turmoil going on in my life right now. Unemployed, running out of money, not job prospects, etc....Now I think what I dreamed is this hurricane and the storm surge.

Thanks for all of the compassionate wishes, folks. We'll be out of the city within one hour. We're going in separate cars, with our cat & dog, and my sister-in-law is coming in her car to recreate a caravan. She's bringing 5 cats, 3 dogs and a bird!!! And, the guy who works for her, David.

I'll let you know that I got to my destination --- Northern Louisiana near the top of the state --- probably by tonight.

Love to all, and anyone else in the area - be smart & wise and get out of there.

Love,
Sharon

Please forgive me Cybear, & Travieso, any other Texans, who may be reading this.
That was me Pat QOP, WHO MADE THAT STATEMENT, NOT PAT C, who tends to far more careful with her analytical thinking, than I!
I intended NO HARM to Texas! ( That was not a political statement) merely an ill considered, glance at the NOAA map, with the thought that Texas is farther West and allows more chance for Katrina to weaken once again!
I didn't realize that Houston was that close to the coast. The Grandchildren's other Grandmother lives in Houston.

My practical mined is so challenged these days, that I don't have time for pondering or following thoughts through to their proper conclusion.
After 2 days of trying to vacum the house, I did get the Orecke upright vacum cleaner working! It was trash picked in a NY City condo, by my daughter's rich Republican friend, with me in mind! Whoever abandoned it just didn't bother to unscrew the bottom, and clean out the internal hose. Fine example of trickle down!
Now I have to go lay a brick walk so I can get Eric's wheelchair to the front door!
I'm so glad to have AW back!
PQ

(((((((((((And a safe trip Sharon and company!))))))))))))))
PQ

Pat QOP, Sharon and all, you are all warm and wonderful people.

Sharon,
Darlin' you need to hit the road... evacuation takes a loooonnnnggg time... when Floyd came into Carolina, my Dad left Charleston, with my niece driving behind him... it's 2 1/2 hrs. to my house, and they arrived 18 hrs. later!!!! traffic moved at a snail pace if at all... grid lock everywhere... after that, Gov made an evacuation plan that involved making all interstate traffic ONE way coming from coast in the event of another hurricane...

New Orleans is already below sea level... a surge of 15-20 ft would be catastrophic... this one is expected to be greater...

Katrina will impact more than NO... its force will impact most of the Gulf... potential of loss of life, for sure tremendous damage to property, and oil rigs... we're talking increase in gas prices that will impact all of us...

Also, where is Nat'l Guard? In Iraq, of course, protecting us at home... NOT!!!

Oak trees --- they barely go into the ground, Hugo destroyed hundreds in Charleston... (hit at low tide and not nearly as strong as Katrina) pine trees and oaks were affected 70 miles up from the coast... driving to Charleston afterwards was like seeing devastation from a nuclear bomb... I cried all the way... did not walk the beach in Charleston for two years... it changed the coastline...

Read the Camille link Pat C. posted above... it changed the coastline drastically...

A cat 5 has not hit us since 1969 --- they have gone out to sea...

Brace yourselves... namaste

As all can see my mind has been "mined"!
PQ

Here is another good tracking site.

http://weather.sun-sentinel.com/tropical/tracking/at200512_5day.html

And from way out in west field.....

From Tori Amos, Piece by Piece by Tori Amos and Ann Powers c. 2005

(Chapter 5, Dionysus: Bringing the Music Forth)

After the Strange Little Girls tour in 2001 and the Afghanistan War, after having the medicine woman come backstage, she spoke to me about how as Americans we have a true mother. That mother is “she who we call America.” This medicine woman said to me, an hour before showtime, “Do you feel that the soul of our land is in the right hands?” I was saddened and quiet. Then she said to me, “Would you turn over your physical mother to those who are in control of she who we call America?” I said, “Well, of course not.” She looked at me with piercing eyes, despite her humble appearance. “Then how can you turn over your spiritual mother so that they have made Miss America Misrepresented so that she has been pimped out for the gain of those who can gain from her?” She changed the tone of her voice. Without moving she rose up like a pillar and seemed to speak for all the ancestors from ages past. “We the caretakers of she who you call America, are giving you a key to the healing of this land. A generation must rise. That generation can be from two to one hundred and two. But this generation of which I speak must form a bond. They have no opportunity to have an intimate relationship with the soul of this land. The European Americans, the African Americans, the Latin Americans, the Asian Americans, and the Middle Eastern Americans must now become caretakers of their Spiritual Mother, or they will be takers of their Spiritual Mother. Caretakers or Takers - you’re either one or the other. If the masses keep taking and not caretaking, then your grandchildren will have very little to nurture them. ... You must find your own relationship with your true Spiritual Mother. Your loyalty should not be to anyone who claims power over the land at any given time, whose intentions can change on a whim, depending if they’ve been seduced by power and what it brings. You must see the signs, even in yourself...”

Best to you all.

OG

Sharon, Love and Peace.

My Brother lives in Victoria, Texas on the coast as well. I think they are going to ride in through. They are a little closer to the Mexican border.

((((((Love and Peace to Sharon)))))

Pat QOP, I really didn't take it that hard. Pat QOP, you have been nothing but a joy on this messageboard. We appreciate you so much.

Believe me, I love my Austin, but I can't stand the politicos here.

Don't Worry, IT'S ALL GOOD!!!! lol

Pat QofP - I did not take it personally either, I just get a little fired up with all of the Texas bashing going on lately. We're not all idiots here. There are alot of them though and it is getting harder and harder to deal with them. Basically it's about 50/50 here with pockets of all blue or all red. But, just as in all of the states the mob mentality rules. Most people can't or will not think for themselves and do not question a thing. Sheeple follow whatever leader is in charge or they would hope to be in charge.

((((((Pat QofP, Sharon and everyone else who is in need))))

Old Granny!

Thank you.

Pat QOP, your mine is just fine. You are a warrior and an inspiration to many.

bartcop just posted this alert. Has anyone else heard anthing like this?
"The networks aren't covering this yet, but the news channels are saying
there's a 20-foot tall tsunami headed for New Orleans
and, "there won't be enough body bags."'

Drive, Sharon, as fast as you are able.

Aren't "tsumanis" a result of earth quakes? Maybe is is a storm surge.

Praise be, the web site is up and running!

Jill G. Thanks for the low down on "Swindle." I'll bet it's in his fifth or 8th house.

Haven't followed up on the Trojan horse story yet, but the minute I heard about the fierce reds converging 3000 strong across from Sheehan, I knew Rove and his henchmen are at it again. This is still not going away. It will just tell the world how polarized we are as a nation.

Sally, I think all of us would do whatever it took to get you up and running safely. This site is too valuable to lose.

Last night the news here in Houston was reporting 20' waves ahead of the storm with some over 70'near the eye. Nothing about them today, I guess they are trying to avoid a chaotic panic over there. People get really strange when things like this happen. Just like when someone screams fire in a theater or shooting begins in a crowded area. Panic ensues and chaos erupts creating more of a problem.

The posting earlier from another site is saying that there is a possibility of 60 to 70' waves on top of the 25' storm surge. This would result in a tsunami style wave.

This storm will effect all of us, if you need gas, go and get it. I think it will hit $3 a gallon in the next 2 weeks.

(((((((PatQOP))))))

Hey, Cybear and Y'all. Newt Gingrich isn't a Southerner, either. We have plenty of home-grown bad guys, but he isn't one of them. Newt was an army brat--lived all over. Never made a dime that wasn't from a government payroll (including his teaching job) until he started some right-wing "foundation." One of those "I did it all on my own (Not) right-wingers.

Jill G, thanks for Swindle info--I'll let you know what I find.

Everybody check out Digby today--that site is rocking.

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/

Especially the TBlog story about the anti-Cindy folks roughing up the other anti-Cindy folks.

Pat PDQ--thanks for bring up Bush Sr etc trip to Saudi. It had completely slipped my mind. Now that you have pointed it out, it's like the Sherlock Holmes story where Holmes mentions the odd incident of the hounds at night. "But they didn't bark," says Watson. "That was the odd incident," says Holmes.

Dogs that didn't bark? How 'bout the goat story at the elementary school, and the Secret Service stood down, did not move Dubya from the school?

Storm surge is predicted at 25' because the hightide won't be able to back out again. The serge walls in New Orleans are only 7', so Lake Bourbon Bay is born! Fortunally the military at Ft Polk are a medical group that's been back from Iraq for a month. They have had a lot of practice and are well rested.

Cybear, when Ann Richards lost to dubya, we knew it was time to move out of Austin and Texas. [Didn't you love it when she possed on her white motorcycle? She was so cool.] She had hussled so much new business for Texas and dumbya ruined it.

You know Jill, I have lived in Austin for 18 years, and I think that Austin is more liberal than before. I think that, like San Francisco to California, Austin has become the anti-thesis of stereotypical Texas.

I know that in the 80's and early 90's Austin was not gay friendly and much more segregated. Now, whites and latinos are closer then ever with East Austin becoming mixed neighborhoods. I remember the days when I was scared to go to gay bars in Austin because there seemed to be a gay bashing case every weekend. Now, Austin has one of the highest numbers of gays and lesbians in the US.

Sharon and others in the area, after reading Shy's post upthread, I say get the hell out of there, yesterday.

Jill G - You bet Ann was the greatest!!! Dumbass killed the film industry that Ann worked so hard to attract to Texas. As a result, me and many others who were in the biz have never really recovered from his slash and burn tactics.

Travis - I have always felt safer in Austin then anywhere else in the state. Most of the bashing came from the 'frat rats' and that happened everywhere. During the 70's and 80's here in Houston, not only did you have to watch out for the rednecks, but also the police. It was very dangerous here. Never felt that in Austin.

Here's a link to the New Orleans Times-Picayune projected flooding map. Add to this 175mph winds and you'll get an idea of what this could be...

http://www.nola.com/hurricane/content/katrina_projected_flooding082805.pdf

http://www.starlightnews.com/

Katrina

I’ve taken a few minutes out of writing my next article (hopefully up tomorrow) to try and find the astrological indications for Hurricane Katrina, which looks like it will be bringing an unprecedented disaster to New Orleans and its inhabitants. Also of concern, but nowhere near in the same range as the human toll in Louisiana, will be the huge hike in oil prices resulting from the likely destruction and disturbance of oil rigs in the Gulf.

The first thing to note is the exact square of transiting Uranus to US Uranus this weekend. Uranus tends to bring dramatic, sudden and often irreversible change in its wake. Often significant and potentially devastating events occur when a Uranus transit is exact.

The other planetary configurations I uncovered took some digging, and I would be interested to know what others have found that might indicate this massive storm and the likely destruction it will cause. The tertiary progressions in the US chart (9/4/05 = 1/14/1784) suggest confusion and loss, possibly due to water, with tertiary progressed Moon conjunct tertiary progressed Neptune, exact today at 12Libra25 and still within orb tomorrow and Tuesday. The tertiary Moon then moves to a conjunction of natal US Saturn (14Libra48) through September 2, suggesting sorrow and loss (Saturn) for some segment of the American population (US Moon) over the next several days. The one thing that points to trouble of some kind in New Orleans is the eclipse chart of 10/13/04 during which Uranus was exactly on the MC and Pluto was exactly on the Descendant in New Orleans at the time of the eclipse .

I am not satisfied that this is all there is so any ideas are welcome.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/8/28/14836/7116
Bush cut Hurricane projects in New Orleans

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http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4200/is_20050606/ai_n14657367
New Orleans district of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers

In fiscal year 2006, the New Orleans district of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is bracing for a record $71.2 million reduction in federal funding.

It would be the largest single-year funding loss ever for the New Orleans district, Corps officials said.

I've been here over 30 years and I've never seen this level of reduction, said Al Naomi, project manager for the New Orleans district. I think part of the problem is it's not so much the reduction, it's the drastic reduction in one fiscal year. It's the immediacy of the reduction that I think is the hardest thing to adapt to.

More....

http://www.osei.noaa.gov/OSEIiod.html
Coastal Texas
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/hgx/
Florida west coast
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/tbw/html/tbw/
Gulf video
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/gmex-vis-loop.html

10/13/04 was the 3rd Bush/Kerry debate....also that day:

Military Construction Bill: On October 13, 2004, http://www.ips-dc.org/citiesforpeace/federalbudgettracker.htm 10/13/04 was the 3rd Bush/Kerry debate. President Bush signed into law the military construction bill, which appropriated a total of $10 billion to an array of military construction projects. $5.5 billion went to military construction, $4 billion for family housing, $160.8 million for NATO infrastructure improvements, and $246.1 million for costs associated with base closings and realignments. The appropriation is $450 million, or five percent, more than Bush requested, and $687 million, or seven percent, more than the fiscal year 2004. Attached to the Military Construction bill was the fiscal year 2005 Disaster Aid package of $14.5 billion, $11.6 billion of which was emergency funding. Here's the breakdown of this emergency funding:

* $6.5 billion for the Federal Emergency Management Agency

Commentary lower down:

The greatest portion of the 2005 budget will fund Defense and Military Construction while crucial domestic programs will remain underfunded. In order to meet the Administration's tight budget cap, a blanket .8% cut has been imposed on all programs unrelated to defense or homeland security. These reductions represent the fourth consecutive fiscal year of program cuts. With rising inflation, vital social programs will receive substantially less money than in previous years. In addition, the omnibus bill includes certain provisions that have little to do with the allocation of funds. These provisions will also affect the lives of American citizens.

Latest warning (sorry, it comes in all caps...)

WWUS74 KLIX 281550 NPWLIX

URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA
1011 AM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005

...DEVASTATING DAMAGE EXPECTED...

.HURRICANE KATRINA...A MOST POWERFUL HURRICANE WITH UNPRECEDENTED STRENGTH...RIVALING THE INTENSITY OF HURRICANE CAMILLE OF 1969.

MOST OF THE AREA WILL BE UNINHABITABLE FOR WEEKS...PERHAPS LONGER. AT LEAST ONE HALF OF WELL CONSTRUCTED HOMES WILL HAVE ROOF AND WALL FAILURE. ALL GABLED ROOFS WILL FAIL...LEAVING THOSE HOMES SEVERELY DAMAGED OR DESTROYED.

THE MAJORITY OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS WILL BECOME NON FUNCTIONAL. PARTIAL TO COMPLETE WALL AND ROOF FAILURE IS EXPECTED. ALL WOOD FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED. CONCRETE BLOCK LOW RISE APARTMENTS WILL SUSTAIN MAJOR DAMAGE...INCLUDING SOME WALL AND ROOF FAILURE.

HIGH RISE OFFICE AND APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL SWAY DANGEROUSLY...A FEW TO THE POINT OF TOTAL COLLAPSE. ALL WINDOWS WILL BLOW OUT.

AIRBORNE DEBRIS WILL BE WIDESPREAD...AND MAY INCLUDE HEAVY ITEMS SUCH AS HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES AND EVEN LIGHT VEHICLES. SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES AND LIGHT TRUCKS WILL BE MOVED. THE BLOWN DEBRIS WILL CREATE ADDITIONAL DESTRUCTION. PERSONS...PETS...AND LIVESTOCK EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL FACE CERTAIN DEATH IF STRUCK.

POWER OUTAGES WILL LAST FOR WEEKS...AS MOST POWER POLES WILL BE DOWN AND TRANSFORMERS DESTROYED. WATER SHORTAGES WILL MAKE HUMAN SUFFERING INCREDIBLE BY MODERN STANDARDS.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF NATIVE TREES WILL BE SNAPPED OR UPROOTED. ONLY THE HEARTIEST WILL REMAIN STANDING...BUT BE TOTALLY DEFOLIATED. FEW CROPS WILL REMAIN. LIVESTOCK LEFT EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL BE KILLED.

AN INLAND HURRICANE WIND WARNING IS ISSUED WHEN SUSTAINED WINDS NEAR HURRICANE FORCE...OR FREQUENT GUSTS AT OR ABOVE HURRICANE FORCE...ARE CERTAIN WITHIN THE NEXT 12 TO 24 HOURS.

ONCE TROPICAL STORM AND HURRICANE FORCE WINDS ONSET...DO NOT VENTURE OUTSIDE!

Not to change the subject, but we don't want to let this one slide thru on the 175 m p h winds!

Russians briefly detain U.S. senators

http://www.heraldonline.com/24hour/politics/story/2667137p-11187034c.html

and THIS!

Iraqi state company to repair oil wells
http://www.oregonlive.com/newsflash/international/index.ssf?/base/international-25/1125255542193103.xml&storylist=
orinternational
The decision by U.S. reconstruction officials came after American and other Western companies — including giant oil-field services firm KBR Oil — balked at doing the work without strong legal protections, or indemnifications, guaranteeing they would not be blamed if things went wrong.
Right! The insurgents are winning!
PQ

A good description of the situation...

http://americanradioworks.publicradio.org/features/wetlands/hurricane1.html

Sally,
The way things look for dubya and his neocons they won't go into Iran before the 2006 elections will they? If they want to retain Congressional domination they will have to make a grand showing of Iraq getting a constitution AND USA withdrawal before next fall. But you're saying that they can't possibly pull that off (or just don't want to)?? Do you really think they would rather use Nukes instead to scare the sheeple into re-electing their people? Their thinking is so twisted that it is hard to follow their plans. Actually, I'm surprised that their arrogance hasn't caused to say "Oh the hell with the Middle East, let's take over Venezuala!"

States tackle gas cost
Lawmakers are considering sales-tax holidays on gas, caps on wholesale
prices, and even the sale of some turnpikes. By Ron Scherer
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0829/p01s01-usec.html?s=hns

http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2005/8/28/15233/8123/49#49

Clinton's Disaster Mitigation Program

"...Among emergency specialists, 'mitigation' -- the measures taken in advance to minimize the damage caused by natural disasters -- is a crucial part of the strategy to save lives and cut recovery costs. But since 2001, key federal disaster mitigation programs, developed over many years, have been slashed and tossed aside. FEMA's Project Impact, a model mitigation program created by the Clinton administration, has been canceled outright. Federal funding of post-disaster mitigation efforts designed to protect people and property from the next disaster has been cut in half. Communities across the country must now compete for pre-disaster mitigation dollars.

As a result, some state and local emergency managers say, it's become more difficult to get the equipment and funds they need to most effectively deal with disasters. In Louisiana, requests for flood mitigation funds were rejected by FEMA this summer. (See sidebar.) In North Carolina, a state also regularly threatened by hurricanes and floods, FEMA recently refused the state's request to buy backup generators for emergency support facilities. And the budget cuts have halved the funding for a mitigation program that saved an estimated $8.8 million in recovery costs in three eastern North Carolina communities alone after 1999's Hurricane Floyd.

More...

Jo, right you are. The dogs didn't bark and the goat just sat there. I can't remember who (think it was an investigative reporter) said, "USA means Under Saudi Arabia."

Jill G. at this point Bush will do whatever he wants or try to do. In spite of our watching for signs of someone throwing him out, it look bleak for Iran or Syria. Not even the Dems are making a very strong showing of opposition to whatever he wants. We are in bad shape in this country and when nothing happened to him late spring early summer, I don't seen anything but protection for GWB to completely distroy what we think of as America. It will take leadership from the people and a hard push from the people to shift things.

Hurricane weather watch, this site has times and probilities that change every hour.

http://quiz.ivillage.co.uk/uk_politics/tests/firstlines.htm

Sally and all wise ones here--is "too lucky" ever a curse? Sometimes I think it is. Bush Jr. gets too many breaks to cover his crimes. Seems lucky, but how does it come out for him in the end? Problem is, we're all along for the ride. Maybe it is 'Merica's turn to be too lucky.

Sure wish we were all on the upward side of this instead of the downward--but there is no escaping fate. We'll just have to pick up the pieces and do the best we can.

For the past few years I've been much more understanding of the Germans in the '40s than I ever was before. (When I was a kid didn't even understand there was anything to understand.)

When you know how bad group-think can be, you really appreciate the folks who stand up against it.

Hmm...just noticed that Katrina's projected path of destruction runs mostly through red states clear to Ohio. One huge mess, not sure that the repercussions inland aren't going to be as equally castastrophic.

A cut and paste with info that you may find useful regarding the Superdome

Created by law: November 8, 1966 Louisiana Constitutional Amendment

Construction began: August 11, 1971

Superdome Opened: August 3, 1975

Total Land Area: (building, garages, and grounds) - 52 acres
Height: 273 feet (82.3 meters)
Diameter of the Dome: 680 feet (210 meters)
Area of Roof: 9.7 acres
Concrete: 169,000 cubic yards (131,820 cubic meters)
Structural Steel: 20,000 tons (18,200 metric tons)
Air Conditioning: 9,000 tons (8,190 metirc tons)
Convention / Meeting Rooms: 52
Restrooms: 88
Private Box Suites: 132
Parking Capacity: 5,000 cars + 250 buses
Lighting: 15,200 fully computerized lighting fixtures
Video System: 2 DiamondVision panels each 28'7" x 36'3"
Scoreboards: 4 (8' x 60' each)
Electrical Wiring: 400 miles (640 kiometers), including fiber optic lines.
Anodized Aluminum Siding: more than 550,000 square feet
Escalators: 32
Elevators: 10 + 1 freight

Cap'n Sally, while many in the Dem "leadership" seem to be bought by the corporations, some do have some fight in 'em (Cleland, Hackett, Dean, Boxer, Conyers, etc.). Moreover, folks in some of the remoter (and redder) parts of the country are tuning in too and with a fury. Just check this out:
http://clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050826/OPINION/508260376/1166

I just wanted to let you all know that I got one of those bad "vibes" last night. These bad vibes have come a day or two in advance of everything from 9/11 to the tsunami. I am VERY concerned about New Orleans and the news seems to be indicating that this is the worst case scenario for the city. I would remind other people out there who read this site that it is not just the lives that are at stake here, but the city itself. New Orleans is one of the cultural jewels of the United States, and anyone who has visited the city knows that it has a very deep psychic imprint to it...lots of ghosts, fortunetellers, mystics, tarot readers, local myths and legends. These things are affected too.

I have a sister and a cousin at Tulane. Both made it home to Dallas late last night, both accompanied by several of their friends from school. We're having a hurricane slumber party at my parents' house right now.

If anyone reading this site is still in an area exposed to Katrina, please get out NOW.

OMG Dave, so do I!!!! I jsut think that this storm is going to be awful. I esp., worry about those poor people at the superdome.

I think this storm will be worse than first thought.

(((((white light to the victims)))))

Pastor Dan at Booman Tribune has posted this diary:

Brothers and Sisters (pray* for New Orleans)

Sun Aug 28th, 2005 at 09:14:38 PM EDT

In honor of the City of Saints, an Invocation of the Saints:

Bridegroom of poverty, our brother Francis, follower of Jesus and friend of creation: Stand here beside us.

John XXIII, Pope and friend of the poor, who longed for the unity of all people: Stand here beside us.

Peacemakers in the world, Dag Hammarskjold and Desmond Tutu, called children of God: Stand here beside us.

Mask of the Christ, Gautama the Buddha, and Mother Teresa, Stand here beside us.

Harriet Tubman and Fredrick Douglass, and all fighters for freedom: Stand here beside us.

Madman in America, Johnny Appleseed, planter of Eden: Stand here beside us.

Visionary and apostle, John of Patmos, resisting the Beast: Stand here beside us.

Visionaries and poets, Caedmon, Dante, William Blake, John Bunyan and Isaac Watts, pilgrims of the inner light: Stand here beside us.

Faithful woman, Mary Magdalene, first witness of the new life: Stand here beside us.

Johann Sebastian Bach, Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Ludwig van Beethoven, and all who speak the soul's language: Stand here beside us.

Students of the earth, Charles Darwin, Pierre Teilhard de Chardin and Margaret Mead, voyagers in the past and in the future: Stand here beside us.

Children of the synagogue, Albert Einsten, Karl Marx, and Sigmund Freud, divers in the sea of humanity: Stand here beside us.

Witnesses in England, John and Charles Wesley, street ministers: Stand here beside us.

Reformers and leaders of protest, Amos of Tekoa, Paul of Tarsus, Jan Hus, Martin Luther, and all your companions: Stand here beside us.

Menno Simons and George Fox, explorers in the Gospel: Stand here beside us.

Confessors in chains, Dietrich Bonhoeffer and the Berrigan brothers, war resisters: Stand here beside us.

Confessor in Africa, Augustine of Hippo, city-planner for God's people: Stand here beside us.

Confessor in Russia, Boris Pasternak, poet of reconciliation: Stand here beside us.

Confessors in America, Henry David Thoreau, Robert Frost and Thomas Merton, hermits and free thinkers: Stand here beside us.

Con't

Pastor Dan con't

Innocents of Guernica, Sharpeville, and Birmingham, and all victims of lynching, in your undeserved deaths: Stand here beside us.

Innocents of Coventry, Dresden, Tokyo, and all victims of bombing caught up in a sea of fire: Stand here beside us.

Innocents of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, pierced by needles of flame: Stand here beside us.

Innocents of Auschwitz, Dachau, and all concentration camps, in your despair and dying: Stand here beside us.

Innocents of Biafra and Armenia, objects of genocide: Stand here beside us.

Innocents of Wounded Knee and Mylai, God's wheat ground in the mill of war: Stand here beside us.

Martyrs of Africa: Perpetua, mother; Felicity, slave; and all your companions; Stand here beside us.

Martyrs and confessors, Polycarp, Ignatius, and Justin, who refused to offer incense to Caesar: Stand here beside us.

Martyr in Colombia, Camillo Torres, priest and revolutionary: Stand here beside us.

Martyrs of Kent State, witnesses to the hopes of the young;

Martyr for America, Martin Luther King, organizer for peace and justice: Stand here beside us.

Unwed mother, blessed Mary, fair wellspring of our liberation: Stand here beside us.

Our leader and friend, Jesus the Son of God, bright cornerstone our unity in a new Spirit; Stand here beside us.

Almighty One, you have surrounded us with a great cloud of witnesses: Grant that we, encouraged by the good example of these your servants, may persevere in running the race that is set before us, until at last, with all your saints, we attain your eternal joy.

Keep us mindful of the people of the New Orleans, and all who are threatened by Hurricane Katrina, and empower us to serve them with the best we have to offer; Susan Hu and her family, Codetalker, his granddaughter, and her family; Jim, friend of Poli Sigh, in need of a transplant, and now again at the top of the list; and all who are in need.

And let all the people say:

http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2005/8/28/211438/251

Lots of oil rigs out in the Gulf of Mexico, and many oil refineries in Louisiana. So if you think there's an oil crisis now, by the end of the week, we will be in a double whammy. Lower your thermostats, pray for a mild winter, and gather up your fire wood. Knit your sweaters and gloves...

Sally, I'm not sure that Bush won't get it in 2006. Long live hope. The threads are beginning to weave into a tapestry similar to Nixon. I'm going to try to be patient. Watch what happens when the Fundies have to deal with higher oil prices. I'm not talking about the rich ones, I'm talking about the trailer trash biggots.

Katherine the Great.

Morgana, I think you are right Katrina holds the seeds to something beyond landfall. And Dave, I share your concerns. Something about this hurricane goes deep.

Sharon, I believe I can speak for everyone on this site, we will be relieved to hear you are safe and our thoughts and energies go with you.

My thoughts are with all those adversly affected by mother nature also. May your inconvenience and suffering be minimal.
Apart from the obvious immediate drama and danger to life and limb, I feel there some very important cosmic messages from this one.
Wasn't there a pretty serious oil/energy crisis the last time saturn was in Leo? Is it a case of having to repeat the lessons we collectively didn't "get?"

It really is time to pray for those in Louisiana.

Bush will be, has been, experiencing a lingering fixed cross due to transiting Mars in Taurus, Tranisiting Neptune in Aquarius, Natal Ceres in Aquarius, Natal Asc.,Mercury,Pluto,Venus, etc.in Leo, transiting Saturn also in Leo and transiting Ceres in Scorpio. Not very comfortable, I would think.

His natal Pluto/Ceres opposition suggests a death of sorts, and these points which will be jangled very soon. I don't want the guy to die. I want a shame festival to begin to take off the clothes of this absurd emperor and his cronies.

I have a feeling that Bush will be seen as unsympathetic to the victims of this storm as he continues with his vacation and not even visit New Orleans. I see him making an address to the nation (like 5 min. or so), but I don't see actually going out on a boat to see the damage.

Beasley,
I like my old vision of dubya being lead off in a straight jacket. That would be a hugh embarassment for the NeoCons. Laugh the whole lot of them out of office and into jail. None of them is rational - heartless, cold and calculating, yes, - just not sane.

Well, the fact that New Orleans just had their disaster funding cut by George Bush and they will not get the hurricane money Florida has enjoyed (and that's been slim) might turn a few hundred thousand people marching toward Washington. I am not sure why people don't get that this war is draining our money for our own infrastructure.

http://www.bestofneworleans.com/dispatch/2004-09-28/cover_story.html

I fear that this storm will not only destroy New Orleans and the surrounding area, but will also be the first domino to fall in the collapse of the US economy. This storm will reach far and wide in terms of ecological and financial destruction.

If you remember, the last level 5 storm to hit the US was Andrew in 1992, and Bush I was president, the slow response of FEMA was blamed on Bush and significant in his losing the race for president. Lord, has there been a re-run of daddy's presidency.

Peace, and love for Sharon and everyone in Louisiana.

here's a good satellite image link of Katrina
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/float-ir4-loop.html

oops, meant to say infa-red, not satellite.

Oh Kiwijeanie, what a vivid picture of how massive and swirling this is, frightening in its power, it sure doesn't seem to be losing steam.

I think this was posted a while back, but in light of Katrina's timing, this from Robert Blaschke is interesting: http://www.earthwalkastrology.com
It is commonly perceived by astrologers that one's progressed lunation cycle First Quarter square is a time of crisis. For Mr Bush, this is additionally evident from the fact that Pluto turns direct on September 2nd while holding a stationary Mutable Grand Cross to his progressed Ascendant, Descendant, Midheaven and Uranus. Shortly afterward, transit Saturn conjoins his natal Ascendant on September 11th, of all dates. On that fateful day for Mr Bush, as the Reaper finally emerges from his 12th house, the Moon also reaches the degree of the Pluto station, Sagittarius 22.

Morgana, you may have something on Ohio. Even if all that's left of Katrina is heavy rain by the time it gets up here, there are a lot of flat and low lying areas in the south and southeast counties of the state. Very easily flooded counties. Red, Bush-voting counties.

I think Katrina may be a major wake-up call for this country. We are less prepared than at any other point within the post WWII era to deal with such a catastrophe. How did we stumble so far down to this point?

Strike that part about the southeast Ohio counties being flat. Those are Appalachian foothills. I meant the southwestern counties, closer to Cincinnati and Dayton.

Note prediction for Aug. 29/30 Sept. l/2 and date of original letter

----- Original Message -----
From: Dragon Newsletter
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 12:52 PM
Subject: Terrorists Attack

Terrorists Attack

Dear Reader

Following my prediction of the 911 and the latest terrorist attack in London for July 7, 2005 I am expecting more drastic news.

I offered my book Moon Power for free to thousands of people world wide, simply refer to predictions drturi.com/predictions.html

"England and Australia will suffer a series of terrorist attacks, and interests on foreign grounds will be targeted" or read environment and my expectation for 07/07/05 on page 198.

Please pass on this newsletter and dates to all the people you know and help me prepare the world for the next upcoming negative dragon window dates. You may download my book for free at drturi.com/moonpoweroffer.php

Here are the dates to be very aware that you may pass on to all the people you know.

· Sometime this weekend, July 23rd 2005—there will be a type of violent natural disaster (quake/volcano/air disaster), resulting in a large explosion and the loss of life.

· August 19-20th, 2005--- there will be high probability for another terrorist attack in the US and the UK and a type of violent natural disaster (quake/volcano/air disaster), resulting in a large explosion and the loss of life.

· August 29th-30th & Sept 1st and 2nd 2005—Thousands of people will be forced to relocate due to natural disaster.

I am typically able to predict dates but not locations. I would if the USGS would share all faults' activity worldwide! When will those educated imbeciles stop thinking they know better than the Universal order and finally deal with the stars? Meantime by the time the needle moves it is usually too late . One day may be when science realizes that they will never make any progress unless they try something new.

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

-Albert Einstein

The year 2012 will offer an "upgrade in consciousness," with ET awareness rather than catastrophe or the "end of times as professed by "earth changes" lunatics and religious fanatics.

DO NOT subscribe to anything unless the author has a strong and well documented record of predictions.

The new updated version of my 2006 Moon Power will be available and ready to order before the year 2005 is over. I am also working very hard on my new book " You Are God".

I will be On Air tomorrow Saturday July 23 at 1 PM MT (9.00pm UK time).
Dr. Turi on The Unexplained with Howard Hughes
www.talksport.net.

The Next Hurrah
August 29, 2005

Please Donate Money to the Red Cross

By DHinMI

At the time of the Asian tsunami, there were a lot of questions as to the best way for people in the US or Canada to help out the victims. But as Katrina tracks straight toward New Orleans, with the potential to decimate the city and kill thousands and possibly even tens of thousands of mostly poor people who couldn't flee its path, there's no question where your donations should go to help the victims of this catastrophe. Please, donate to the American Red Cross.

The Red Cross has already mobilized people from around the country to head to the Gulf region, and they're the best at dispensing aid, assessing needs and getting reconstruction going. They know what they're doing, and while not infalible, they're quite good. There's no need to reinvent the wheel.

And they don't need clothing, or canned goods or anything else. While your impulse to provide such items is admirable, they are experts at logistics, and working with FEMA and whatever other federal and state agencies are involved, they will get what's needed there in bulk much faster. It's actually very expensive for them to deal with contributions that aren't cash.

It's maybe a little abstract, and possibly not as satisfying as the thought that something you hold in your hand right now could benefit somebody in the disaster area. But the best way to help is to give money to the Red Cross, and to give it now.

Donate by following this link, or donate by phone at 1-800-HELP NOW.
http://www.redcross.org/

And if you're inclined toward asking for help from other less earthly sources of assistance, now's the time to do it.

http://thenexthurrah.typepad.com/the_next_hurrah/

So glad you're back up, Sally. I'm quite certain everyone will adjust to any changes you find necessary to make to keep this site up and running!

As i write, it's too early to tell exactly what devastation has occurred. I pray for all. Oil has already shot above $70 a barrel, but we all knew what would occur.

Interesting post/find, wv.

karen

Thank you, Jo, for posting that information about the Red Cross. One never knows how wonderful this organization is until they need their services! A few years ago my community was hit by a level 4 (5 being the highest) tornado which devestated our community and left many of us homeless. The shock of that was overwhelming, but you still had to go on and take care of things to get on with your life. Our home was partially destroyed and we had over 80 tall southern pine trees fall on our property, which we soon found out the insurance companies will not pay to remove, so we spent endless days cutting up trees and rolling logs to the road for an eventual town pickup. With no electricity and beastly hot and humid southern weather it was, to say the least, an experience I never hope to repeat. We had to try and save what we could, deal with insurance companies and unbelieveable amounts of awful people that seem to crawl out of the woodwork to take advantage of people in crisis and make money off their tragedy. The Red Cross was there in our community within hours of the tornado and they stayed for weeks supplying cold bottled water (you never know how wonderful a cold drink can be until you lose your air conditioning here!)and food three times a day. They had workers come around several times a day to make sure people were eating and drinking and they offered so much comfort during this stressful time. Our girls were elementary school age then and the Red Cross workers brought them story books and teddy bears and took them for ice cream. We had lost all our clothing inside the house so the Red Cross made sure we were taken to buy clothes and shoes .. just can't say enough good things about this organization and what they do for people in times of need. We never know how much these people do until you need help, and without them I don't think we would have been able to go on with a "normal" life as quickly as we did. They are there when you need help most! Support them if you can!

I worked for Red Cross when Andrew struck in 1992 and I would suggest before you donate to Red Cross that you find a church in the area, call the World Council of Churches to get a name or donate to the Salvation Army. Make sure you clearly state to the Red Cross (if you donate to them) that you are donating to Katrina. Red Cross spends a great deal of the donated money on Red Cross, accomodations for Red Cross, cars for Red Cross, other agencies do a much better job so look around just a bit.

We have not heard from Sharon, keep good thoughts for her.

Well, ya gotta hand it to bvshco again--fire up the HAARP, intensify/steer a hurricane to landfall
and VOILA!!! Cindy Sheehan is off the front pages AND oil prices surge to record highs.

I know it seems to be tinfoil-hat material but sometimes, ya just gotta wonder with these people....

namaste and may all in harm's way be safe.......

Sally,
I remember how disillusioned i was when it came out that the Red Cross, in the beginning days of AIDs made a decision not to screen for the disease. They determined it was more cost effective to pay out in lawsuits if they arose. Many, mostly young suffering with hemophilia paid the price. -Was this when Libby Dole was prez? I can't recall now.
Never-the-less the grass roots workers and volunteers are a remarkable bunch of folk. Bureaucracies eh?? A part of our society which need real attention.
tseka

Today, August 29th... 29, an 11

Expiation

cat4 (think Hugo) Hurricane moving through LA... forest fires in CA

Cindy in Crawford..

Dubya hiding on the pig farm...

On 9/11 he hid out also... in a plane flying in circles, then down a rabbit hole...

They don't even feign 'leadership' with this Executive Officer... a few words yesterday to get to safety, a few signatures the day before to get diaster relief going... nada else...

just like with the caskets arriving from Iraq...

26,000 (as reported by NO Times-Picayunne) in Superdome... with roof ripping off...

.. A LEVEE BREACH OCCURRED ALONG THE INDUSTRIAL CANAL AT TENNESSE STREET. 3 TO 8 FEET OF WATER IS EXPECTED DUE TO THE BREACH...LOCATIONS IN THE WARNING INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO ARABI AND 9TH WARD OF NEW ORLEANS.

Dubya is achieving balance in his life... getting on with 'his' life, while hundreds of thousands in both Gulfs - here and in Iraq and elsewhere, are at risk...

Well any one taking bets on whether George will let go of his precious Black Gold to ease the people suffering? Not.

Democrat urges use of oil stockpile in hurricane

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democrat Sen. Charles Schumer (news, bio, voting record) of New York on Monday asked the Bush administration to release oil from the U.S. emergency stockpile to help ease higher prices due to Hurricane
Katrina.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050829/pl_nm/weather_katrina_energy_schumer_dc

Morgana,

Report from Yahoo seems to indicate he will release some, to help HIS BUDS in the oil field, not 'merikuns...

Bush Weighs Tapping Strategic Oil Reserve By JENNIFER LOVEN, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 11 minutes ago

WACO, Texas - President Bush weighed a decision on whether to release some oil from the nation's petroleum reserves to help refiners hurt by Hurricane Katrina, administration officials said Monday. A decision was expected later in the day.

The storm already forced the shutdown of an estimated 1 million barrels of refining capacity along the nation's Gulf Coast.

Adminstration officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly, said Bush seemed likely to authorize a loan of some oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve but that details remained in flux.

In 2004, the president authorized loans from the reserve to help refiners make up for missing supplies when Hurricane Ivan struck.

Meanwhile, Bush got a briefing on the powerful storm from Michael Brown, the director of the Federal Emergency Agency, White House spokesman Scott McClellan told reporters as Bush headed to Arizona for a speech on Medicare after leaving his Texas ranch.

*http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050829/ap_on_go_pr_wh/katrina_bush_1

Here's link to diary by Kossack living in Paris who has been following the oil for long time now...

Countdown to 100$ oil (13) - Katrina strikes / refinery crisis

by Jerome a Paris

Mon Aug 29th, 2005 at 04:05:20 PDT

We are all holding our breath waiting to know what will happen to New Orleans and the surrounding area, but one thing is certain: the impact on the oil markets is already very real, and is set to get worse.

Oil prices have jumped above 70$/bl in Asian and European trading and will evolve as more news come on what wqill happen to the massive oil production, transportation and refining infrastructure in the NO area.

Some recent news below, as well as some background on the refining industry in the US. I'll try to update throughout the day.

*http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/8/29/7520/55270

Sally, so glad the site is up ... Morgana, great article! Katrina was a surprise (I'm in Miami, Florida), still picking up the mess and finally have power again! So worried about N.Orleans (I was here for Andrew too). Thank goodness Andrew was a "dry" storm (mostly wind, not alot of rain). Otherwise it would have been even worse!

Jill G. and All: Here is the lastest on Iran's plans to build n.weapons--- gathered from world scientists. Quite the opposite of what the Administration is saying and planning for.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/content/article/2005/08/22/AR2005082201447.html

In addition, I heard on radio (NPR or BBC)this past week-end that A.Q. Kahn of Pakistan definitely sold equipment to North Korea to build the n.weapons they seek.

It is Wonderful! to have the site back. Missed all the great comments/links so much!

It is frustrating when they move things around.
Try their search "Iran No nuclear weapons" or
Their Index under "No Proof Found of Iran Arms Program"

RE: North Korea nuclear ambitions

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4180286.stm

Don't mean to post off topic but feel much is being lost due to hurricane coverage. Please don't think me insensitive.

No one seems to be posting except me?????

I expect they are mostly watching the Hurricane unfold Beverly, I myself am taking breaks in my work day to watch. I have friends and family in the area and cannot get through. As to the AW Family, we have not heard from Sharon, I trust she made it out ok. Thanks for the above link, I think people are concerned about North Korea, I know I am, but I am also concerned with what is happening in our own backyards, so I have not been looking at too much else right now. I am bookmarking this link so I can return to read it properly.

Whoops, I forgot why I came right now. This is a list of agencies where you can donate if you would like.

http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?p=380

Well, interestingly....it verred NE and hit a red state the hardest, going a little easier on the "blue" Big Easy.
Read spomewhere today that the ranch at Crawford is passive solar.......they don't need to worry about high oil prices to heat with!
PQ

WTF....The FBI is saying that anit-war protesters and groups are terrorist.

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/ACLU_reveals_FBI_labeled_peace_affirmative_action_group_terrori_0829.html

I think we are headed to some extreemly violent times here in the land of the no longer free and home of the sheep.

I think I'm going to go and get sick now....

Cybear,
Why are you shocked? The Patriot Act insured this 4 years ago.
I'm probably on their list. In good company, J Edger Hoover had quite a lengthy dossier on Eleanor Roosevelt.
I hung out with those dirty Quakers when I was just a kid! Set my fate early in life! But thankfully it takes too much gas to get up this far, & our local population is mentally & emotionally still back in the 50's.

Here is a test you can take.

Find out if you could be in the FBI's files!
http://www.aclu.org/Quizzes/QuizIntro.cfm?CL=3&quizID=12&doProcess=y
BTW; when I went to SS in Portland Me. apply for my Widows Pension, I discovered that they had an "alias" for me!
In high school, my middle name, Jane was too plain for me...........so I started signing my school papers Patti Jo ( being an admirer of that character from Little Women.) That's what they had down as my alias!!!!! from school essays.........UNBELIEVABLE!
I never used it on anything like a driver's liscense or SS card.
PQ

Without trying to sound callus or detached, I think this is a Ceres in Scorpio act of the 2nd Innaugural Chart for Shrub.

And Ceres is very, very angry. She will see to it, that all produce of the American earth will not be able to yield fruit and grain...crops will die, drowned by her rage. She is not done. She wants her daughter back.

Prepare to have your heart strings tugged:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2044004&mesg_id=2044004

Shylurker, thank you for that incredible link!

Oh Shy,

Thank you for posting that...

Wonderful picture, Shylurker! And how impressive.

Incidentally, Ceres and Neptune were an item once, even though Ceres wasn't very happy about the event.

Oh Shylurker,
Thank you for this wonderful post!
Beasley,
Take a look at shylurker's post....in my humble opinion many of the daughters are returning.

Look here too, no farther than this site, many are thte daughters and sons wise and longing for the next.

Community is being born all over the place, little seeds planted and growing in nooks and crannies everywhere....

Perhaps Ceres is merely assisting us in the process of lancing the wound so true healing can begin?

Pat PofQ, like you i hung out with the Quakers, they were my mentors during my Viet Nam anti war days. And a dossier does exist on most of us. Sadly.

It's the path where fear takes us and a different kind of desire that places our feet on that path, one of greed instead of longing for what makes us whole and healthy.

I am very curious how we all will move in the aftermath of this calamity. Sometimes a shock awakens us "like a bell ringing in an empty sky" as the buddhists might say.

I wish for all of you a peaceful night..
tseka

Pat QofP - I'm shocked because of what I read. I know that they have considered anyone against this adinistration to be a terrorist, but come on. This is insane.

As far as I file on me goes, well I have had one since the late 70's/early 80's when I was in college and in a very hardcore punk band. At the time I was approached by the CIA through a young women that I hung around with. She took me to this guy's apartment to get drugs and there were a lot of folders on a table and one had my name on it and was full of family info. I asked them what they were all about and how did he get this information, and he showed me his creds and I declined. The chick was never seen after that and that apartment was empty a few days later. I figured it was because I have 2 second cousins who were feds that were very deep undercover agents. Little did I know that they were watching us all because we were so political.

In the late eighties I was working for a large trade show company that catered to the corporate and political world I got secret service clearance for some events. I have been within 1 foot of Reagan, Poppy Bush, Corizone Aquino, Kay Bailey Hutchenson, Phil Gram, Rove, Cheney....and on and on. I actually have mic'd them all as I was doing sound for many of their speeches. This company is still in business and has very close ties to the White House. They do the Repugnant Conventions, all the sets, decorations, video, lighting and sound....And I think I was laid off because of my opposition to the Schrub and the war.

Tseka, Cybear, well we are all in good company. Like all of you I was active in the 60's running an underground anti-war, anti-establishment underground newspaper in both High School and college. I'm still a scribbler.
I spect they have all our names and numbers even unto today.

Travieso, re your comment about Bush seeming "unsympathetic" about the storm--whoo boy--were you ever right. Check out

http://www.dailykos.com

The diary on the right side titled "did you see Bush on MSNBC" or something like that. Ha!

Pat POQ and Tseka, and all, check out the Mahablog. Very interesting analysis of Bush/Iraq and the weakness of the Democrats. As we learned in science class (unless we attended a fundamentalist school) Nature Abhorres A Vacuum. And the Democrats who became the "me, too" party created a vacuum.

http://www.mahablog.com/

Here's a line from an old Superttamp song that really fits todays political atmosphere...

"Better watch what you say,
They'll be calling you a radical,
a liberal, a fanatical, a criminal"

I heard this the other day and it slapped me in the face.

Um, that's Supertramp....My fingers are going to sleep.

Morgana, do you--are does anyone on this site remember "The Great Speckled Bird"?

Ready for a chuckle?
Oh what I wouldn't give to see this come true! Poetic justice for a very deserving fellow.

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N2886425.htm
"I announce that my government is going to take legal action in the United States ... to call for the assassination of a head of state is an act of terrorism." Chavez said in a televised speech.

The fiery left-wing critic of Bush's foreign policy who frequently charges the U.S. government is plotting to kill him, called Robertson "crazy" and a "public menace."

He said Venezuela could seek Robertson's extradition under international treaties and take its claim to the United Nations if the Bush administration did not act.

Yes I know of the "Great Speckled Bird." It was my late mother's favorite song for a long time. A religious song by Roy Acuff and the Smokey Mountain Boys. Country music of course.

Poetic Justice, indeed, kiwijeanie! Chavez has every right to defend himself against a madman like Pat Robertson. What better way to do so than to use the laws of the very government in which Robertson has entrenched himself?

I hope that Chavez continues to make a big deal out of this. Put Robertson on the defensive and make him answer for unChristian behavior. The longer he stays under the microscope, the more people will call into question Robertson's behavior as a self-proclaimed "Man of God".

Mabe Pluto in Sag is really starting to cut through to the truth now? There certainly have been a ton of layers of garbage to dig through.

Thanks for the picture of Cindy Sheehan and the Native American, Shylurker. I don't know how I missed it, but I couldn't help but shed tears once I saw it.

As for the Feds and the FBI labeling activists as terrorists, it sounds to me like the gasps of a moribund, collapsing regime in its' "last throes". Who is really the more fearful? The peace movement is picking up steam and is actually growing stronger by the day. Meanwhile, the wheels have come off the Bush-Cheney/NeoCon wagon as the faults in the Right Wing GOP coalition become more and more apparent, and the lockstep , mindless "patri-idiots" now turn upon Bush, and each other with blame, still incapable of taking responsibility for themselves and their criminalities.

Let them take down my name, if they don't have it already. Let them be afraid of me, and everyone else who is standing up. Let us hold them accountable for this nonsense in the way they have destroyed our country, our fellow men and women and our one and only planet.

They ought to be scared of me and of the people of this country. They are out of line, and as the people continue to wake up, we will take back our country, even if it means tearing everything down and rebuilding it from the bottom up.

Never in a zillion light years would I ever have expected this to happen:

" A beautiful moment just happened at Camp Casey I. There was a candle light vigil honoring troops who have died in Iraq. The counter protesters came across the street and joined the vigilers at Camp Casey, They shared the flag and prayed together for the families on both sides who have lost loved ones in the war. They are now singing and holding candles together. This is a testament to the power of this movement ..."

I had reached my limit of hate and was about to turn away from this whole tragedy when I read this. It is maybe the deepest glimmer of hope for the collective I have experienced in a very long time. From trampled crosses to this. I guess I should push on.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The point is..............................
We are all still here, exchanging ideas in cyberspace!!!!!

Cybear, unemployment is hell, but aren't you glad you aren't helping to "catapult the propaganda"?

That's a wonderful story jm, thanks for bringing it here!

PQ

Barbara, I'm not familiar with "The Speckled Bird", what's running through my mind is "White Bird" by Beautiful Day. David Laflamme.

Pat C.'s computer is down...

which is why you haven't heard from her...

I'm not altogether clear on what it means, but here it is:
http://www.cowboylyrics.com/lyrics/acuff-roy/great-speckled-bird-464.html

Pat QofP - Yes unemployment is hell. Five years ago, after being in the Broadcasting/Film industry for most of the 90's the company I worked for went belly up I went back to that company. My partner was not happy about that decision, but we needed the money and there was not a whole lot of opportunities. I guess there was some kind of Karmic lesson I had to learn.

But, things may be about to turn around. I have had 4 interviews in the past 2 weeks and I was told at my last interview last week that I would have an answer today. Sooo, I may be going back to work within a week. If not, I'll keep on keeping on.

CNN is reporting that one of the Lake Ponchatrain levees has failed and New Orleans is now 80% under water. The images coming out now are devastating...

Cybear,
Think how the Louisiana National Guard feels sitting in Iraq where they can do nothing to help their neighbors and friends as they were meant to do. [All while trying to dodge bullets and bombs, thanks to that *#@~+% dubya.]

Shylurker,
Thanks for that photo of Cindy with Dennis Bank - it is priceless. Does anyone have a link for the video or audio of it?

KiwiJeanie,
I hope Chavez does take legal action against Pat the Rat. Then Chavez could confiscate all Pat's Venezualan land and oil money! Serve the creep right!

My Dear Friends at Astroworld.

This is your good friend, Neerav Trivedi. Sorry I have not posted in a great while. I want everyone here at AStroworld to PLEASE pray for both the victims of his catastrophic hurricane and for the families of those lost in Afghanistan and Iraq. Both are equally saddening to us all.

Reading Nancy Waterman's latest article, "A Bitter Harvest" makres my heart race. With Bush's poll numbers anywhere between 35 and 45% (once more poll scome out), we can finally see this idiot punished.

Nancy, Laurie, Sally, Morgana, thank you for your riveting articles, which helps us to stay opttimistic about politics, and about our owl lives. Myself and my people, along with everyone here at Astroworld US are forever grateful for your service!

It seems that with Saturn in Leo and Mars in Taurus, combined with Pluto in Saggitarius and Uranus in Pisces, the downfall of Bush is certain. Hopefully, that would mean impeachment over the Iraq War for Bush and his cronies, ESPECIALLY Karl Rove and company over Palmegate.

With the US casualty toll in Iraq approaching the dreadful 1,900 mark, the American peopel can no longer take anymore of this stupidity in Iraq, now that a civil war is more than likely to occur. Support Cindy Sheehan and got to the rally in Washington D.C. on September 24th, 2005 to ask Bush to get the truth about this Iraq War and get our troops our of harms way and back home safely to us!!!

I will try to be in touch with you here at Astroworld US, though I am more lurking in the shadows than anything else.

If you need anything, please feel free to e-mail me at crazyneerav@yahoo.com.

In the words of Pat QQP: Love and White Light to you all!!!

- Your dear friend and companion,
Neerav B. Trivedi

Not only is the National Guard in Iraq, but their equipment is also...

now comes this news from TV station in Gulf:

MARTIAL LAW DECLARED: Situation Deteriorating
CBS News - Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:37 AM

New Orleans, LA (CBS) - Martial Law has been declared in New Orleans as conditions continued to deteriorate. Water levels in The Big Easy and it's suburbs are rising at dangerous levels and officials stated they don't know where the water is coming from. Residents are being urged to get out of New Orleans in any way they can as officials fear "life will be unsustainable" for days or even weeks.

Gulf Coast residents were staggered by the body-blow inflicted by Hurricane Katrina, with more than a million people sweltering without power, miles of lowlands under water and unconfirmed reports of as many 80 people dead in Mississippi alone.

http://www.wben.com/newsroom/fullstory.php?newsid=03633

There is no potable water in NO period. Other areas are without water to drink. Hospitals are flooded with water.

There are unknown numbers of drowned people in these waters, many entombed in their homes, unable to get out of the attics when the onslaught of the waters rushed in...

If we have been bombed in the Gulf area it would not be worse... and where is the federal gov't? Where is Dubya? Same place he was on 9/11, down a rabbit hole...

In the words of one poster on Salon who lives in the Alabamofl area,

"Except for possibly CNN, the national media is not doing a good job of saying how bad it really is or is going to get in LA/MS."

Local TV news had to shut down due to rising water, but have set-up a blog. Very sad. Do note that Smirky is "cutting short" his vacation to return to DC. I thought he was scheduled to go back on the first anyway. Are they actually spinning this?
http://www.wwltv.com/local/stories/WWLBLOG.ac3fcea.html

Be sure and go to the website Shylurker posted above, they are posting the accurate information regarding the problems in NO. They have also said that MSM is acting as if NO is just in the search and rescue mode and the danger is over. It is not, they are just now facing castrophy.

Also the one I posted above:

http://www.wben.com/newsroom/fullstory.php?newsid=03633

Something you and your neighbors can do besides sending money somewhere and hope it gets used rightly. Be sure to call your local UMC and make sure they are accepting these for LA/MS:
http://gbgm-umc.org/umcor/print/kits/floodbucket.stm

AN OPEN LETTER TO GEORGE BUSH

Monday, August 29, 2005

Dear PRESIDENT BUSH:

I just spent three days in and around your town of Crawford, and it was
clear to me that there are many Crawford residents who are pleased to
have you as a neighbor.

Your image and name and the signs supporting you and your presidency are
certainly abundant. I had no trouble at all finding President Bush
postcards to bring home with me, even one that details Laura's "Texas
Cowboy Cookies." My wife and I plan to bake them at our house soon.

I didn't spend most of my time in Crawford, however. I was actually much
closer to your ranch most of each day, standing and sitting alongside
the road at Camp Casey, along with a few hundred other outsiders who
came to support the message of Cindy Sheehan.

I talked to people from all over America who had come to be as close to
your ranch as we were allowed, to give you the message that your time of
isolation is over. You can stay holed up at the ranch, or in the White
House, or in friendly gatherings of your supporters, but from now on you
will have constant reminders, wherever you are, that we the people of
America, the majority now, do NOT approve of the process you used to
take the country to war, nor of your conduct of the war.

We do NOT approve of a President who lies to the people and to Congress
and to the United Nations about the reasons for going to war, and then
makes jokes about looking for WMDs under his desk, when American
soldiers have been killed because you knowingly sent them to look for
those nonexistent WMDs.

I'm writing you now because there is one aspect of your conduct of this
war, and of your Presidency, that troubles me above all others. It is
the God factor. Did you happen to hear about the sign that some of your
supporters were displaying on the fence across the road from Camp Casey?
It was neatly printed and I could easily read it from our side of the
road. It said, "Perhaps it's Providence. Democracy is a prerequisite."
Then there was scripture at the bottom, saying "And this gospel of the
Kingdom shall be preached in all the world. Matt: 24:14."

I regret now that I didn't go across the road to ask your supporters
what they meant by the sign. We were each pretty much keeping to our own
sides of the road; the several Sheriff Deputies and the Sheriff's
helicopter circling over us for hours, tended to make both sides think
that we should stay put. But I just got home now and pulled out my
Lutheran Confirmation Bible from1957 and looked up Matthew 24:14.

The full text in my Revised Standard Version says, "And this gospel of
the kingdom will be preached throughout the whole world, as a testimony
to all nations; and then the end will come." Hey, wait a minute. Is this
what some of your supporters mean, that when we have democracy in the
whole world, guided by Providence, then the gospel of the kingdom can be
spread to all nations, and then the end times can come, and then Jesus
will return? Mr. President, what does this sign mean to you? Do you
agree with it?

What do you think, Mr. President? Do you think you are on a mission to
bring about the end times? And if so, what do you see as the trigger
point, democracies in every nation? Or is Armageddon the trigger, as
some Christians interpret the Bible? Lately you have been warning us
about Iran's evil intentions more and more, just like you did before you
invaded Iraq, so does this mean that Iran is to be the next democracy
convert? I have heard some people warning you that if you invade or bomb
Iran, you will be starting World War III.

I am wondering if the logical arguments against attacking Iran will have
any effect on you and many of your supporters, because for you perhaps
it is a win-win situation? If Iran is conquered and you make it a
democracy, then the end times are that much nearer and Jesus will return
that much sooner. But if your invasion of Iran is met with widespread
resistance from Iran and in other Muslim countries, then you trigger
WWIII, and once again the end times are that much closer.

Do you believe what that sign across the road implies, that you are on a
Holy end-times mission? I think this is a legitimate question to ask of
you, since it appears that so many millions of your supporters believe
that you are doing the Will of God.

For example, last fall in Washington I happened upon an event on the
Mall, with the Capitol in the background, where thousands of attendees
were being told by the speakers that they must pray for America, because
America has sinned and was then punished with 9/11, and that America is
for Jesus, and that they must vote for you for President again.

What do you think about their view of God's Will for America?
Millions of them voted for you, so when you make a decision about
invading the next country or not, do you feel any allegiance to their
way of looking at "reality?"

In closing this letter to you, Mr. President, I just want to remind you
that you can't hide from us. Hundreds will continue to be in the ditches
near your ranch until you meet with Cindy or others, or until you go
back to Washington. And on Saturday, September 24th, hundreds of
thousands of us will meet at the Washington Monument at 11 a.m., to
peacefully give you the demonstration that we are no longer willing to
be quiet while you guide our beloved America into perpetual war and
potential WWIII.

We want you to WORK WITH LEADERS and intellectuals WHO HAVE OTHER IDEAS
than yours about how to remove the threat of terrorism from our country
and the world. If you don't listen to us, then you can expect that
eventually there will be millions of us near you wherever you try to
hide, giving you no rest, for we are fervent for a peaceful world, and
we will not let you thwart our desire for peace.

We will protest peacefully and NONviolently and in great numbers, until
you change your mind, change your policy, develop a sensible and rapid
exit strategy from Iraq, seriously look for the real causes of
terrorism, and level with the people of America. Can you do that? If
not, see you in Crawford.

Sincerely,

THOMAS HANSEN, Ph.D., Charlottesville, Virginia

thansen103@aol.com

My bad. I looked around and it seems that Smirky is cutting his vacation short to mosey on back to DC. He's cutting it short by TWO WHOLE DAYS! Whaddya know.

This news story fits right in with the rest of bizarro world news:
http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/duluthsuperior/news/nation/12507884.htm

Thank you Sally for your kind remarks from yesterday. I had NPR on all day at work yesterday so was up-to-date with Katrina when I posted and just wanted to talk about other issues.
I am concerned for Sharon too and trust that she is someplace safe. If she could just find a lap top to send us a message.

In response to the several comments regarding political changes upthread I want to list John Conyers blog. His website has been mentioned here several times, but not his blog. To find a "politician" who can converse and relate to us common folk is the most refreshing thing to me. He would make a remarkable cabinet member! and would be well deserving of it but appears as though his next step would be Chairman of the House Judiciary committee! If. I want to maintain the vision of that.
This is a sample of only one of his entries: Read the whole thing though. Read all of his entries.He is a fighter!

"What Happened Last Fall?"
"Republicans find themselves with plunging poll numbers and an uncertain electroal landscape in 2006. Failure for them in their drive to keep control of the House of Representatives, and one party rule in Washington, means that, if reelected, I will become Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, Henery Waxman will become Chairman of the Government Reform Committee, Louise Slaughter will become Chair of the Rules Committee, Charlie Rangel will Chair the Ways and Means Committee, and Nancy Pelosi will be the first woman to be Speaker of the House. THAT MEANS ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THIS ADMINISTRATION WITH A STIFF DOSE OF THE TRUTH."

So inspiring!!!

Also you can sign up there to insure that Bush doesn't Pardon Karl Rove should he be indicted.
http://www.conyersblog.us
*******

We need to find more liberals with the backbone of Conyers. On this subject check out, if you haven't yet, Gary Hart's Op Ed from last week-end regarding the position the liberals should take regarding the war in Iraq. I loved it. Google - it's in many places.

I feel like most of the time lately, that I no longer belong to the liberal party. I feel abandoned by the Democrats because of their silence on so many, many issues.
But reading Conyer's really lifts me up.

Quotes from when Clinton committed troops to Bosnia:

"You can support the troops but not the president."
--Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)

"Well, I just think it's a bad idea. What's going to happen is they're going
to be over there for 10, 15, maybe 20 years."
--Joe Scarborough (R-FL)

"Explain to the mothers and fathers of American servicemen that may come
home in body bags why their son or daughter have to give up their life?"
--Sean Hannity, Fox News, 4/6/99

"[The] President . . is once again releasing American military might on a
foreign country with an ill-defined objective and no exit strategy. He has
yet to tell the Congress how much this operation will cost. And he has not
informed our nation's armed forces about how long they will be away from
home. These strikes do not make for a sound foreign policy."
--Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA)

"American foreign policy is now one huge big mystery. Simply put, the
administration is trying to lead the world with a feel-good foreign policy."
--Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)

"If we are going to commit American troops, we must be certain they have a
clear mission, an achievable goal and an exit strategy."
--Karen Hughes, speaking on behalf of George W Bush

"I had doubts about the bombing campaign from the beginning . I didn't
think we had done enough in the diplomatic area."
--Senator Trent Lott (R-MS)

"I cannot support a failed foreign policy. History teaches us that it is
often easier to make war than peace. This administration is just learning
that lesson right now. The President began this mission with very vague
objectives and lots of unanswered questions. A month later, these questions
are still unanswered. There are no clarified rules of engagement. There is
no timetable. There is no legitimate definition of victory. There is no
contingency plan for mission creep. There is no clear funding program. There
is no agenda to bolster our over-extended military. There is no explanation
defining what vital national interests are at stake. There was no strategic
plan for war when the President started this thing, and there still is no
plan today"
--Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)

"Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the President to
explain to us what the exit strategy is."
--Governor George W. Bush (R-TX)

Original link:
http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/8/17/144732/740

unbelievable destruction - video footage of gulfport from the air
http://www.wlox.com/Global/story.asp?S=3782622&nav=6DJHduXE

German Papers

Katrina Should be A Lesson To US on Global Warming

Seems like everything is President Bush's fault. One day after Katrina hammered the Gulf Coast, German commentators are laying into the US for its stubborn attitude to global warming and Kyoto.

AP
Fun-loving New Orleans, now a disaster area.
Hurricane Katrina is big news for German commentators, whatever their ilk. For some, the powerful storm which slammed the Gulf Coast on Monday, is a symbol of the sort of environmental terrors awaiting the world thanks to global warming and proof positive that America needs to quickly reverse its policy of playing down climate change. For the more conservative, it is simply another regrettable natural catastrophe.

http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,druck-372179,00.html

Ja Jo,
Down the rabbit hole indeed. We all recall how Mr. Bush flew back to DC for Teri Shiavo. These are simply politcally inconvenient deaths, no hurry, no worry.
Meanwhile are Bush Sr. and Cheney still in Saudi?
Maybe Rove can't figure how to row this boat?
tseka

I'm not an astrologer so perhpas it is merely personal but the current time feels very similar to the solar eclipse of 11 aug 1999. I'm not sure that i can explain that because i sense things differently, and that is all this perception is; a sense of shifting energy.
tseka

Bush Unbalanced As Polls Plummet

By Bill Gallagher

08/30/05 "Niagara Falls Reporter" -- -- DETROIT -- With George W. Bush, a certifiable madman, in power, it shouldn't be surprising that the rest of our republic is going bonkers. Bush, our commander in sleep, has spread the virus of neo-fascist fever and the bug is gripping our nation like the flu in February. The evidence is compelling.

The national commander of the American Legion demands an end to all "public protests" and "media events" against the war. Commander Thomas Cadmus declared, at the legion's convention in Honolulu, that "it would be tragic if the freedoms our veterans fought so valiantly to protect would be used against their successors today."

http://informationclearinghouse.info/article10034.htm

Tseka, you are right and everytime something sets that Aug. 11, 1999, 12:03pm, Cornwall England, havoc is set loose. That eclipse was the harbinger of what would come in the new Century and it was hailed as such. Neptune and Mars are in square aspect right now and both are setting off that 1999 eclipse. The Sun and Moon at that eclipse was at 18 degrees Leo, Uranus was 14 Aquarius, Mars at 16 Scorpio and Saturn at 16 Taurus. Today Mars is at 16 Taurus setting that whole Grand Fixed Cross off. I don't know if you heard but the Gov. is evacuating the entire city of New Orleans to other states. And George Bush is going to cut one entire day off his vacation, what a leader. The only good news for them is the French Quarter is about the only place in the city that is still dry but that may not be for long at the rate the waters are rising. "Old Man River he jus' keep rollin' along."

I don't think this is good news for the short term, it's devastating in fact, but in the long term it could be the trigger for the people to rise and take back their country. When they figure out how much money has gone into Iraq to build them an Islam Nation, and how limited we are for infrastructure money of our own, all the ghosts of the "big easy" could rise right up and carry the tide of the US with them

This is great!

The Crucifixion of Christ, American Style

By Jerry Ghinelli

08/29/05 "ICH" -- -- “For God so loved the world...” he returned his only begotten son to the land where he shed his grace on thee.

Vindication for the faithful, rejoicing for the true believers, it was the second coming of Christ—and he was coming to America. Not to bring Armageddon, but to save mankind from Armageddon.

Jesus will make his first appearance at the intersection of the streets appropriately named “Liberty” and “Church” in New York City, located at what has come to be known as “Ground Zero.”

http://informationclearinghouse.info/article10025.htm

Patriot Act Support Shrinks with Increased Info
The Associated Press

Monday 29 August 2005

Washington - Fewer than half of Americans know the purpose of the Patriot Act, and the more they know about it the less they like it, according to a poll released Monday.

Fewer than half of those polled, 42 percent, are able to correctly identify the law's main purpose of enhancing surveillance procedures for federal law enforcement agencies, according to the poll conducted by the Center for Survey Research and Analysis at the University of Connecticut.

Almost two-thirds of all Americans, 64 percent, said they support the Patriot Act. But support dropped to 57 percent among those who could accurately identify the intent of the legislation.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/printer_083005Y.shtml

William Rivers Pitt | Here's the Funny Part

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/083005I.shtml

George W. Bush coughed up his latest rationale for continuing the Iraq war - I think this is the fourth or fifth one of these to this point - by saying that because so many American soldiers have been killed, we have to keep sending American soldiers to get killed as a means of honoring the American soldiers who have been killed. William Rivers Pitt says this is big talk from a guy who spends more time on vacation than a French aristocrat.

The Lords of War

George Bush. "One dead American for every day in office".

By Mike Whitney

08/29/05 "ICH" -- -- President Bush's latest milestone in the war on terror has been predictably ignored in the mainstream media. Bush, who is now in the fifth year of his presidency, has served 1727 days in office. With the death toll in Iraq currently at 1873 servicemen, Bush can now boast that at least one American has died for every day he's been in office; a sobering tribute to a man who wants to be remembered "a war president".

Every day; another Casey Sheehan or some other faceless patriot dies in Bush's war of choice.

http://informationclearinghouse.info/article10026.htm

Finding Closure

By J.D. ENGELHARDT

While in Iraq, I never once saw a terrorist with extreme inclinations for senseless bloodshed, but only angry farmers and shop keepers who for one reason or another wish to end our empirical domination over their homeland. What I saw was an honest insurrection fought by average citizens.

http://informationclearinghouse.info/article10011.htm

Good one WV!
Shylurker,
I heard that news about Dorothy's stolen slippers, leaving this AM, & figured, that someone stole them to wear in Crawford & click the heels together.!
PQ

How easily we have come to take the bombs and the deaths in Iraq for granted

If 'we' had not invaded Iraq, 43 Iraqis would not have been pulverised by three bombs last week

By Robert Fisk

08/27/05 "The Independent" -- -- Taking things for granted. Or, as a very dear friend of mine used to say to me, "There you go." I am sitting in Baghdad airport, waiting for my little Flying Carpet Airlines 20-seater prop aircraft to take me home to Beirut but the local Iraqi station manager, Mr Ghazwan, has not turned up like he used to. Without him, I can't enter departures or check in.

Back in January, he was here, telling me he wouldn't forget to take me through security, talking to an Iraqi officer who looked remarkably like him, telling the officer to look after me. Ghazwan spoke careful, grammatical English and would laugh at himself when he made mistakes.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article10005.htm

Licensed to Kill

Christian-Terrorists and Secular-Fanatics

By Yamin Zakaria

Which is worse, those who incite violence, those who practice violence or those who practice violence while lecturing their victims? Why do nations, that profit most from the sale of weapons for war, death and destruction, shout loudest in claiming to be proponents of "peace"? How can the Christian-West bully others with charges of anti-Semitism, when they are the ones who built the gas chambers, implemented the inquisition, and carried out routine pogroms against the Jews for centuries?

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article10007.htm

Thanks Sally
All the interesting "patterns of the spirit" ...I'm so glad to have stumbled on your site where you and so many others share the ability to understand and interpret this paticular symbol pattern called astrology.
Heartfelt thanks to all of you for your untiring efforts.
tseka

As ye sew, so shall ye reap!

Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

08.29.2005

“For They That Sow the Wind Shall Reap the Whirlwind” (22 comments )

As Hurricane Katrina dismantles Mississippi’s Gulf Coast, it’s worth recalling the central role that Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour played in derailing the Kyoto Protocol and kiboshing President Bush’s iron-clad campaign promise to regulate CO2.

In March of 2001, just two days after EPA Administrator Christie Todd Whitman’s strong statement affirming Bush’s CO2 promise former RNC Chief Barbour responded with an urgent memo to the White House.

Barbour, who had served as RNC Chair and Bush campaign strategist, was now representing the president’s major donors from the fossil fuel industry who had enlisted him to map a Bush energy policy that would

be friendly to their interests. His credentials ensured the new administration’s attention.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-f-kennedy-jr/afor-they-that-sow-the-_b_6396.html

Rep. Jim McDermott

Bio

08.30.2005
One Nation – Two Countries
The President, rested after five weeks of paid vacation, returns to the White House with new data showing so much is up under his Administration.

Gasoline prices are up, dramatically. Oil Company profits are up, obscenely.

And Americans know the sky is the limit in other important economic indicators as well. Bankruptcies are up. Poverty is up. And the number of uninsured Americans is way up.

The President is proud of the state of the nation. He says so time and time, in one scripted, invitation-only, stage-managed event after another. The last time he saw an average American was when his motorcade whizzed by Cindy Sheehan on the side of a Texas road without stopping. But there was no time to stop and talk because there was another fundraiser to attend.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-jim-mcdermott/one-nation-a-two-countr_b_6472.html

Talk about chutzpah!

Bush Implies Carter, Reagan, Clinton Partially Responsible For 9/11...

Think Progress | Judd Legum | August 30, 2005 at 02:38 PM

As his poll numbers sink, Bush is getting desperate. From his address today in San Diego:

They looked at our response after the hostage crisis in Iran, the bombings of the Marine barracks in Lebanon, the first World Trade Center attack, the killing of American soldiers in Somalia, the destruction of two U.S. embassies in Africa, and the attack on the USS Cole. They concluded that free societies lacked the courage and character to defend themselves against a determined enemy… After September the 11th, 2001, we’ve taught the terrorists a very different lesson: America will not run in defeat and we will not forget our responsibilities.

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George the Magnificant, a glutton for work!

Bush To Shave Two Days Off His Five Week Vacation...

CNN | August 30, 2005 at 01:54 PM

AP/J. Scott Applewhite

President Bush will cut short his vacation to return to Washington on Wednesday, two days earlier than planned, to help monitor federal efforts to assist victims of Hurricane Katrina, the White House said Tuesday.

"We have got a lot of work to do," Bush said, referring to the damage wrought by the hurricane along Gulf Coast areas.

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Poverty Rate Rises to 12.7% To 37 Million People..

Published on Tuesday, August 30, 2005, distributed by Knight-Ridder Newspapers
Nuremberg Lesson for Iraq War: It’s Murder
by Michael Mandel

This month marks the 60th anniversary of the London Charter of the International Military Tribunal, the basic legal document for the trial of the major Nazi war criminals that commenced in November 1945.
One of the great innovations of that charter was the charge of "Crimes Against Peace," defined as the "planning, preparation, initiation or waging of a war of aggression, or a war in violation of international treaties, agreements or assurances."

In a famous passage from their judgment of the following year, the four judges of the tribunal (American, British, French and Russian) declared the crime of aggressive war to be "the supreme international crime, differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole."

The innovation of the crime of aggressive war was in fact denounced by the Nazi defendants as "ex post facto law," but Justice Robert Jackson, America's prosecutor at Nuremberg, had an answer for this: Illegal wars were nothing more than mass murder, and there was nothing ex post facto about the crime of murder. Here's what Jackson said to the tribunal in his opening statement on Nov. 21, 1945:

http://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/print.cgi?file=/views05/0830-33.htm

Published on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 by the Independent (UK)
All I Did Was Say They Can't Run a Fair Election
'He caters to a British sensibility that sees us as an errant colony run by a gang of thugs'

by Andrew Gumbel

I've got bad news for anyone already made queasy by the marathon length of American presidential elections. Not only is the 2008 race already concentrating political minds, it is becoming ever clearer the country has not recovered from the infamous mano a mano between Al Gore and George W Bush in Florida in 2000. In fact, in many important - and depressing - ways, the battle over Florida is still raging.

I've learned this the hard way, by becoming part of the battle myself. This past week, a posse of internet screamers who clearly don't like the idea of an uppity Brit questioning the legitimacy of George W Bush's first election took it upon themselves to denounce me as a "conspiracy journalist", a "left-wing hack" and a bare-faced liar.

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0830-31.htm

Published on Monday, August 29, 2005 by CommonDreams.org
George W. Bush's Noble Cause - 'Political Capital'
by Thom Hartmann

Cindy Sheehan continues to ask George W. Bush what the "Noble Cause" was for which her son died in Iraq, and why Bush's daughters haven't enlisted in this Cause.
While Bush talked to us about WMDs, an imminent "mushroom cloud," and tried to link Saddam and Iraq to 9/11 (when it was 14 Saudis who hit the World Trade Center), those all fell apart and were exposed (by no less than Paul Wolfowitz) as intentional lies. When Bush shifted his Noble Cause to invading Iraq to bring democracy to the Iraqi people, the Downing Street Memo told another story. And now, also, so does Bush's first biographer.

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0829-22.htm

Louisiana National Guard's 8 Long Days
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/083005D.shtml

Nearing the end of their tour in Iraq, National Guard troops from Louisiana face an uncertain homecoming. With only eight days left before their tours end, the biggest worry on these soldiers' minds is 10,000 miles away. "We were going to have a homecoming," said Carrigee. "Now we don't know if we'll have homes to go home to."

Finally!

Democrats Demand Probe of Demotion

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/083005E.shtml

Congressional Democrats demanded an investigation Monday into the demotion of a senior US military contracting official who publicly criticized a controversial no-bid contract awarded to Halliburton Corp. for work in Iraq.

Hey all-
just a note here--hope I'm not out of line posting this, but when the last thread was hacked and Sally shut the site down, I discovered I was still able to post on the previous thread. Hope we don't ever use this knowledge again, but just in case the unthinkable happens, remember this.

Love the site and the posts and the posters--keep it up y'all!!!

Republicans Accused of Witch-Hunt against Climate Change Scientists

http://www.truthout.org/issues_05/083005EA.shtml

A far-reaching inquiry into the careers of three of the US's most senior climate specialists has been launched by Joe Barton, the chairman of the House of Representatives committee on energy and commerce. He has demanded details of all their sources of funding, methods and everything they have ever published.

With such devastation, how can we find the money to repair and rebuild? We have spent sooooo much money in Iraq; what's left for Katrina's wreckage?

WV your posts are chilling, from Shrub's real motivation to the grand inquisitors of scientists.

I am hopeful, still. This house of cards will not stand. But in the mean time God help us.

God help the planet.

Also interesting article on Chavez and Robertson on Stariq.com

My heartfelt prayers are with all in the area.
This quoted by Reuters in NZ Media
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"We've had widespread looting," he added.

He said even the police and fire department had raided a grocery store for supplies as emergency teams worked triple shifts to hunt for survivors.

"We're essentially looting ourselves but we're keeping track of it."

Several police officers and firefighters said they had left their families when the storm came in and they were called out to search and rescue operations.

"There's a lot of guys out there who don't even know where their family members are right now," said one police officer.
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The only up-side to this disaster is that it will upstage george's plan for this year's 9/11 anniversary fear-fest.

Raising Money, Awareness, Spirits: A Suggestion Thread
by CarolDuhart [Subscribe] [Edit Diary]
Tue Aug 30th, 2005 at 21:11:45 EST
As I sit here, I keep wondering what it is I could do to enhance public awareness and make people give more and more, and thoughts keep running through my head of:
We are the World-remember when all the celebrities got together and did a show? And this year's Live Aid? Can we do it again? And there are so many other ideas I want to throw out.
The reason why I am throwing out ideas is in the hope that someone will actually run with them. I don't have connections, and the one attempt to create a webpage full of links has fell victim to anger and a churning stomach.
CarolDuhart's diary :: ::
An all exclusive website just for hurricane relief information so that people can just go to one site.
Can we do as much for New Orleans as we did for Howard Dean? We are still the power, aren't we. If we raised enough for hurricane victims as we did for his campaign, I bet he would gladly reprise his scream.
Anybody got banners for flood relief efforts?
We need celebrities to help with our asking. Is Martin Sheen or Bruce Springsteen (examples only) available? What about sermons from the pulpit this Sunday? Can we get preachers talking about relief?
Would Carter help?
BTW, please post more ideas or things that you have done with the ideas that I suggested or things that you've already done to raise awareness. (Since Shrub is doing his Nero act)

Jill G. and asteroid lovers,

The asteroid Lucifer is at 25 Cancer conjunct Shrub's natal Saturn in the 12th. The asteroid Beer is at 16 Gemini 30 conjunct his Uranus in the 11th, the asteroid Barbara is at 0 Taurus right up there in his 10th house about 6 degrees from his MC, the asteroid Machiavelli is at 8 Sag 54 in the fifth square his Mars and now square transiting Uranus, and finally, the asteroid Madhatter is at 7 Libra 48 wedged between his natal Neptune and natal Chiron in the 3rd.

Now does the universe tell the truth or not?

That's where the asteroids were when Shrub was born.

 Here's the Funny Part
    By William Rivers Pitt
    t r u t h o u t | Perspective

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/083005I.shtml
PQ

I hope that John Conyers and the progressive Dems who actually are concerned about what is going on, get the chance in 2006 to bring the executive branch and the government in general into ***accountability***. I think we will be hearing much more of that word as Pluto makes its way through late Sagittarius into Capricorn over the next 2-3 years. The transition is already underway.

Well, it appears there're a lot of folks quite sick of a govt of, by & for the lunatic. Which reminds me (having a cancer moon meself) that the govt is absolutely stuffed with cancer or cancer-emphasis lunatics. ;O)

Quick vote on Cnn.com

Do you think the federal gov't is doing enough to help the victims ....

http://www.cnn.com

Vote

************ACTION ALERT**************

MUST SUPPORT JIM CAFFERTY ON CNN.

I know, I know but listen to this, he's been going off all day:

"I'm 62 and i remember the riots in Watts. I remember the earthquake in San Francisco, and a whole host of other disasters, and I have never NEVER witnessed the Federal Government bungle something ANYTHING this badly before..."
"This is Thursday. The hurricane came through 5 DAYS AGO. There are thousands of people in the Superdome dying of thirst and hunger and this government can't manage to drop in water and sandwiches?"

SUPPORT HIM PLEASE, HE'S LISTENING:

http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form4a.html?1

Very important. He's an old style conservative. But he's outraged and rightly so. Only a Freeper or Neocon would not notice the evil of the neglect of the victims. Let's keep him going. Support now, please.

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