You nailed it Morgana, that South Node is conjunct the US Saturn, square the US Sun and conj. GWB's Moon. Karma for the US and GWB. I look at Saturn in the US Chart as our "leaders" and because it squares the US Sun, our "leaders" have a sense of being "Father" to us and we look to them to be our "Father" we don't even care if they are the good or bad "daddy" just the "daddy"

Maybe with this months South Node on the US Saturn we can take another leap forward as a nation toward maturity.

Everyone make your new moon lists based on the house this new moon falls in your chart. Go wild, live large with your wishes.

Morgana's back!!! Yippeeeeee.

(Can you tell I'm happy?)
Wonderful, delightful --- thank you... now I have to read it again, and again... love your 'voice'!

Sally, ya just gotta love it. Teflon coatings eventually get pealed away, scraped and dinged, stuff starts sticking, and then they're trashed.
Saturn, the S. Node, gads I hope we get it right.
Yup Mom and Pop Sixpack can't afford the price. Ask Ohio.

Well Morgana, I'm thinking we may just be patrying like it's 1973.

http://slate.msn.com/id/2123825/
What Novak Was Running From ...

..........

I'm thinking of getting a puppy. Aren't they wonderful?
http://www.geocities.com/abakan1/CashMirIIweek8.html

Pat, I have a "puppy" (7 mo. & 30 lbs now). He is the sweetest most loving doggie but a word of caution...

When in his biting stage, he ripped lining from a mink coat, took stuffing out of a saddle stool we have, knawed furniture, ruined 5 pair of shoes, and, just today, when cooped up on the closed in deck, he ripped up a mini trampoline.

We paper trained him at first and then regretted it because there was so much clean-up. Maybe we just waited too long. He's now learned to go potty outside but still thinks it's ok to do it indoors, too. I was told about the kennel or crate or cage, whatever you want to call it as they all mean the same thing, but I didn't like the idea of putting him in a cage. I finally gave in and made it cozy, with a rug, food, water, toys, gave him dog biscuits and treats. He likes it now, it's his "den" but, if the door is locked, he wants out after an hour and I feel bad if I leave him in too much longer. However, the theory is that he won't go to the bathroom in the kennel so you keep him in there unless he's being walked or otherwise attended to. The minute he's on his own and I'm not watching, he's accident prone. Anyway, the Cash/Mir pups look very sweet, docile and gentle. You may not have your hands full quite as much with them.

Scintillating article, Morgana. You are quite a wordsmith. I'll have to read it a few more times myself.

Oh Sharon....sheesh. You've really had an experience. If I were in your shoes, I'd consider taking him to a trainer or training classes. I did that with one of my dogs years ago, and it was the best things I ever did. She turned out to be awesome. I actually think it was me who was trained in the end. I learned to think like the pack.

I've not gotten a puppy in years. I have a wonderful dog now who was a rescue. That has usually been the way I brought dogs into our family, so consequently, they have not been puppies. I'm still thinking about it.

Morgana writes music, don't you think?

http://www.voanews.com/english/2005-08-04-voa59.cfm

US, China to Work Together to Defeat Security Council G-4 Proposal

China's ambassador to the United Nations says Washington and Beijing have agreed to work together to block a plan by four U.S. allies to expand the United Nations Security Council.

Wang Guangya told reporters Thursday that he has reached an agreement with U.S. Ambassador John Bolton to block efforts by the so-called Group of Four - Brazil, India, Japan and Germany - to add six new permanent, non-veto wielding seats to the Security Council. He said the two men agreed to work independently to lobby what he called "our different friends in different parts of the world" to defeat the draft resolution.

More...

I'm in heaven once again. The nodes of the Moon are my greatest love. Thank you Morgana.
I see the North in Aries in the 12th as seeking the lost self. And finding a reservoir of inner strength and autonomy. While all these fallen kings are scurrying away as Saturn approaches, our individuality and independence will enjoy this boost.

Power to the self!

Add to this, the USA North Node in Leo is right in the Leo stellium. New leaders get ready! The lift in spirits has been wonderful.

Thanks so so much for this chart Morgana. Today a feeling of comfort and relaxation came over me big time. It must be my 23 degree Aries ascendant that feels right at home with this New Moon. Praise be.

Can anyone recommend an effective free "online astrology teaching service" (assuming one exists of course!!) so that a financially challenged novice like myself could begin to learn more about the subject from the beginner level on up. I can be a fast learner if interested, and I am now VERY interested in quickly learning more, to not feel totally illiterate or "out of it" while reading a great article like Morgana's (welcome back!!). Thanks in advance.

jm, I hope I did them justice. The Lunar nodes have been interpreted with so many flavors I hoped I could explain them so folks could wrap their minds around the potential.

Grizzly you'll enjoy the learning. It's an old art and one that has fascinated me all my life. My mother started teaching me to 'throw' a chart by hand when I was ten, that's about the only thing she taught me that stuck, I'm a lousy housekeeper.

Morgana! Morgana! Morgana! Nobody can even come close to the music Margana makes. Thanks big time for this, Morgana.

Best article I've read on the "right to choice"
for women. This Doctor in Boulder is outstanding.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/8/4/235113/8651

Scroll down to see his letter to Howard Dean and the DNC

Grizzly: you might want to start here:

http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/

Here's Justin's take on the 2 new indictments in the Israeli spy case, after having read the indictments:

"...As the issue of Iran's alleged push to procure nuclear weapons takes center stage, AIPAC's efforts to sway U.S. policy – including stealing and leaking U.S. secrets in the service of their pro-Israel agenda – could not have been exposed at a more opportune time. Franklin's trial is scheduled for Sept. 6, although this new indictment could delay matters, but one thing is clear: When these people are finally brought to trial, it is the War Party that will be put in the dock. All those mysterious government officials, not identified by name in the indictment, will be called to testify under oath: the same goes for reporters who laundered Franklin's ill-gotten secrets. The whole network of Israel Firsters will be pulled up by its roots, and you can expect the high-pitched screams to start shortly."

http://antiwar.com/justin/

You're posts just keep getting better and better, Morgana!

This -- "Where's that Dragon's Head ? It's falls in the House of the People, 4th House. Will we see the opportunity or will Neptune's cloudy energies and the lies and deceptions of the oil demons fog the mind of the People?" -- is the conundrum. Deception, by this administration, is part of the Plan for the New American Century. The MEN who currently shape policy, though pompous, are educated. They're well aware that "the people" want a FATHER figure. (thanks for that, Sally.)

Further, the subjugation of WOMEN is purposeful. Supressing the feminine energy disallows creative thinking or acts that would benefit many. Can't have that.

So. . .perhaps it is WOMEN who must be heard. Perhaps WOMEN will slay the dragon. Perhaps, the threat of dissolving Roe v Wade will be the foci that wakes us. (We'll have to work on Phyllis Schafly). ;)

karen

He's going to "stay the course" huh, Morgana..?

Well, he'll see what the American people have to say about that... lots more waking up people! New poll out! 38% ONLY approve of handling of war; 55% think he's a liar ('course the poll didn't word it that way --- same difference, though, read it!)

If somebody did a DECENT poll, with simple, straightforward questions, these numbers would be in the teens! imho...

http://tinyurl.com/98t7d

Need a laugh, a lift? See Billmon...

http://billmon.org/archives/002078.html

glad you saw that earthquake prediction Morgana, I felt it necessary to show you (and Judy). You are sounding like you're getting back your sing-songiness and that makes us ALL very happy. My immediate reaction to this analysis is it means the economy is going to crash. 'Course that's been a-comin' for awhile, but I think this chart shows the signs are no longer going to be ignored or hideable anymore. Thanks for your so apparent sweetness Morgana & take care of yourself, we love you.

Associated Press reports Bush's approval rating
at 38%

Greg Szymanski reports a big "no comment" as a follow up to the Tom Flocco piece from the last thread:

http://www.arcticbeacon.citymaker.com/articles/article/1518131/30722.htm

Sally,

In the previous article's thread you urged us to make a list of those things we want to create with this New Moon as it relates to the House it's falling in. But my New Moon is falling in my 12th House and I have no idea what the 12th House is about? I remember it being All Things Hidden, or something like that. But, as to what one could create, I have no idea!

Any thoughts, all you wise Astro-People? Hey, I just made you all a new moniker: astro-people. I think it fits nicely.

Jonathan, just Google the words "12th House in Astrology" and you will find several sites that will help you out. The 12th house is also the house of a person's self-undoing because they don't see what they are doing.

Grizzly, there isn't just "one" difinitive site for astrology lessons, but taken together there are several great sites, this one is outstanding.

http://www.skyscript.co.uk/books.html

have fun

Thanks, Sally. I also have several books on Houses that I'll take a look through as well. Sheesh! I've got my work cut out for me! It's not too late to take advantage of the New Moon, is it?

Do you support Smirky's handling of Iraq?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8831440/#survey

Exxxelent article, Morganna. Talk about hot. This is the worst garden season I've had in all my 35 years of gardening. The heirloom beans that I planted (under Moon in Cancer, the best!)were doing fine until this damnable heat hit about 2-3 weeks ago. Even watering has done no good. The plants are awful. I'm concerned that I won't be able to save any of the seed and these beans are over 100 years old. Also, talk about remembering your dreams, I always have "interesting" dreams. Last night I dreamed I was talking with a homeless man. He was fairly young (40ish). The setting was a barren landscape. He was saving sandwiches and putting them in his trousers????? Then down came an eagle and sat on the ground. A cat came up to him and was rubbing his body on the eagle. I became concerned that the eagle would eat the cat. The homeless man said no, it wouldn't hurt it. The eagle had an angry look in his eye and I noticed he had blood on his beak. Then on to a new scene....Perhaps too much salsa.

Patricia

Excellent analysis, Morgana! And a Blessed Lammas to all Astroworlders!
~Dommael

Dommael good to see you!

My my my the hits have taken their toll on Rumsfield...

Rumsfeld Honeymoon Fades Away

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/04/AR2005080401789.html?referrer=email

Morgana, that article in the WP had me rolling. So O'Rilley just doesn't know if he can have "faith" in Mr. Rumsfield anymore. CNN took a shot at Bush's poll numbers and said something like "it's mostly just high school graduates and stay at home moms who are against this war and Bush." I wrote them to say "that's because the solid 45% opposed to this war from the beginning were all highly informed and well educated, the pollsters didn't have anyone else to ask."

Another poll shows that 70% of the people (ignorant I am sure) believe the WH is lying in some way about the Plame affair.

As to Jonathan's question regarding timing for the New Moon wish list, 24 hours before and 24 hours after are safe bets. For those of you with the Moon falling in the 12th house, pull out all your secret wishes, the ones you never share and put them down.

Here's an article on the New Moon from Barbara Hand Clow. I don't know of her, but it was interesting:

http://www.handclow2012.com/astroflash.htm

Sally,
Bob Novak suspension by CNN, I've watched that segment online a thousand times. The book on Henry's desk I believe was a Who's Who which debunks Novak that Plames married name was revealed. Pure speculation on that.
As for the poll numbers, I'm sure the numbers are much more severe then they're reporting. Those polls have an unusally high number of gop'ers if I recall. Lot of discontent during a hot summer.
Nor am I comfortable with the US Police Chief's deciding on shoot to kill orders and ask questions later if one is suspected of being a terarist, or looks middle easter, or skin of any color other then white.

Sally, or the other astrologers, may I assume that the house the new moon falls in is the natal house of the chart, i.e., the natal chart has Leo in the 4th house, therefore the new moon will be in the 4th house of that chart.

Thanks.

Morgana, you've weaved your magic again; excellent work.

Don't miss this!!

Just go to the first response, entitled "That's called a 'Quagmire'."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4267158

Hey Patricia, I can tell you a little about Barbara Hand Clow. She is the author of "The Pleiadian Agenda" published by Bear & Co, which I am in the middle of reading at the moment.

Her basic premise as I understand it is that the group of seven stars which make up the Pleiades constellation actually contains an eighth star that we typically overlook - our sun. That is, we are actually Pleiadians ourselves. There are advanced galactic intelligences that have been established for millenia within this constellation, and as Earth heads into 2012 and the end of the Mayan Long Count calender we are being offered an opportunity to "awaken" and join our brethren in the galactic community. That's the premise in a nutshell.

Barbara is currently leading workshops at a space called Wise Awakenings in Bellingham, WA that I believe correspond to the lunar cycle. All of the proceeds from these workshops will be used towards building a memorial for her deceased son. I will probably be attending the next workshop to check it out - I would be happy to share my experience with the Astroworld audience.

Blessed be!
~Dommael

Janet, the New Moon this month is 12 degrees Leo, look on the cusp of the houses and if your Leo house happens to be the 6th, but the degree on the house Cusp is 20, then the New Moon would fall into your 5th.

Morgana, the one thing that bothers me is their desire to rename the "war on terror" to "the struggle against extremist" an extremist can be anyone who disagrees. I don't know if they've figured that one out but they will. I think there is a massive attempt by the world's top 2 percent to get the world completely under corporate control, and that would mean "shoot first, ask questions later."

This was sent to me without a link. I've tried to find it online but cannot, anyway I've condensed it and found it very interesting particularly in light of the fact that both Judi G and I felt a shift Sunday/Monday.

Mayan Information -- 12 Strand DNA

Author Unknown
1. Humanity and Planet Earth are currently going through a huge change or shift in consciousness and reality perception.
2. The Mayan civilization of Central America was and is the most advanced in relation to time-science knowledge. Their main calendar is the most accurate on the planet. It has never erred. They actually have 22 calendars in total, covering the many timing cycles in the Universe and Solar System. Some of these calendars are yet to be revealed.
3. The Mayan fifth world finished in 1987. The sixth world starts in 2012. So we are currently "between worlds". This time is called
the "Apocalypse" or revealing. This means the real truth will be revealed. It is also the time for us to work through "our stuff" individually and collectively.
4. The Mayan sixth world is actually blank. This means it is up to us, as co-creators, to start creating the new world and civilization we want now.
5. The Mayans also say that by 2012- - we will have gone beyond technology as we know it.
- we will have gone beyond time and money.
- we will have entered the fifth dimension after passing through the fourth dimension- Planet Earth and the Solar System will come into galactic synchronization with the rest of the Universe.- Our DNA will be "upgraded" (or reprogrammed) from the centre of our galaxy.
"Everbody on this planet is mutating. Some are more conscious of it than others. But everyone is doing it" - Extraterrestrial Earth Mission.
6. In 2012 the plane of our Solar System will line up exactly with the plane of our Galaxy, the Milky Way. This cycle has taken 26,000 years to complete. Virgil Armstrong also says that two other galaxies will line up with ours at the same time. 7. Time is actually speeding up (or collapsing). For thousands of years the Schumann Resonance or pulse (heartbeat) of Earth has been
7.83 cycles per second, The military have used this as a very reliable reference. However, since 1980 this resonance has been slowly rising. It is now over 12 cycles per second! This mean there
is the equalivant of less than 16 hours per day instead of the old 24 hours.
8. During the Apocalypse or the time "between worlds" many people will be going through many personal changes. The changes will be many
and varied. It is all part of what we came here to learn or experience. Examples of change could be- relationships coming to an end, change of residence or location, change of job or work, shift in attitude or thinking etc.
9. Remember, in any given moment we are making small and large decisions. Each decision is based on LOVE or FEAR. Choose love, follow your intuition, not intellect and follow your passion
or "burning inner desire." Go with the flow.
10. Thought forms are very important and affect our everyday life. We create our reality with thought forms. If we think negative thoughts
of others this is what we attract. If we think positive thoughts we will attract positive people and events. So be aware of your thoughts and eliminate the unnecessary negative or judgemental ones.
11. Be aware that most of the media is controlled by just a few. Use discernment! Look for the hidden agendas. Why is this information being presented to you? What is "their" real agenda? Is it a case of problem_reaction_solution? Do "they" create a problem so that "we" react and ask for a fix, then "they" offer their solution? the "solution being what "they" really wanted in the first place.
12. Remember almost nothing happens by accident. Almost all "events" are planned by some agency or other. Despite this, it is a very exciting time to be alive! The truth shall set you free!

When you opened Shylurker's link to DU, I hope you all opened the first comment, by charlyvi "That's called a quagmire.' It includes a great graphic of Bush & Rove, shuffling off to Buffalo ( or the Caymans?)
It happened to be accompanied by the regular Fri.Bangor trip down memory lane, by MPBS . They were playing Ray Noble's orchestra playing "Chinatown" from 70 years ago. The rythem matched the graphic perfectly!
I'ts a great program, with top headlines from the Bangor Daily News, of the year, and the top ten tunes of that year. 1915 - 1973. We're in 1945, now with the music from the movie bio of Chopin; song "Till The End of Time! Perry Como!
PQ

Hi all...just wanted to say (haven't read any posts yet....that my daughter has a swollen intercostal muscle on her rib and nothing more than that. Her husband, an ex EMT and work out guy in the gym told her that wa what it was, and it was.

Morgana, Mountain Astrologer has a great article by Stephen Forrest on the South Node and reincarnation.....in the Aug/Sept issue. So I was scanning everything and thought I should post it. Plus, an article among many other good ones by Terry Lamb about cycles of stability and instability in which she discusses a speech given by Bill Clinton which relates to it. I don't ever buy the mag, or read it, but was drawn to this issue.

I sense something 'building' also Sally. Perhaps the weight of opinion is building now in people to examine their cavalier 'tudes about our present pRez neoconjobs. It maybe very difficult, and war is always the great mover of attitudes.

I also wanted to remind folks that saturday is the 'opening of the doors of perception' which I mentioned a few threads back. Sun/retro Mercury in the same degree at 13 Leo (in my case, also my Moon degree/sign, so I am even more aware of it.) We all should be on the lookout (or lookin) for new knowledge coming through strongley.

Thanks Cybear....for your ability to care for us all.

That Laurel and Hardy graphic is just GREAT, Shylurker. I want it! I want to be able to copy it and send it around.

News Bulletin from Calais ME. August 5 1955!!!
Tourists traveling with their parrots/ parakeets, are dismayed that they can't take them through customs into Canada. A lively citizens network of Calais residents, willing to "birdsit"
has sprung up in town! ( for a price I'm sure!) That's how the Maine natives have survived this somewhat hostile, climate. location, so removed from eveything.
Yes Sally the pieces are flying out of the Universe & assembling themselves! I feel a shift too.
To that end don't miss Walter Kronkite's Lessons from Hiroshima. MPBS just carried it at lunch today....but I think other NPR stations are planning to air it on Aug 9 the 60th anniversary of Hiroshima. I was 6. It brought up lots of hidden "forgotten" memories! Obviously whatever their dysfunctions, my parents and their friends, were sophisticated, forward thinking, and vocal about world affairs.
PQ
http://www.peacetalksonline.org/NoMoreHiroshima/HiroshimaTranscripts.htm#Top

Hey Judi, I let my scription lapse, that would have been a great resource I suspect. I really do enjoy the reincarnation flavoring takes me back to Sally hanging out in the back of Congress one News Years Eve. Reincarnation, makes complete sense to me.

Dommael:

Re: Barbara Hand Clow

Now, I remember her! I read that book years ago. I think I still have it, along with about 400 others of the same vein.

I'd be interested in your notes from the workshop.

Regards,

Patricia

Cap'n Sally, here's a link I found by googling
mayan 12 strand dna 2012 :

http://www.2012.com.au/unlimited.html

predictions for winners in coming elections in Germany are not going as the cons there want it.
Seems like the leftists are going to topple their cart of expectations and we may have a SURPRISE!
SURPRISE! come elctions results.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4125832.stm

More sizzling Skolnick for the tinfoil hatters like me:

http://www.cloakanddagger.de/media/S_284_S/Overthrow%20series/bush.htm

Commander Eileen Collins said astronauts on shuttle Discovery had seen widespread environmental destruction on Earth and warned on Thursday that greater care was needed to protect natural resources.

"Sometimes you can see how there is erosion, and you can see how there is deforestation. It's very widespread in some parts of the world," Collins said in a conversation from space with Japanese officials in Tokyo, including Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi.

"We would like to see, from the astronauts' point of view, people take good care of the Earth and replace the resources that have been used," said Collins, who was standing with Japanese astronaut Soichi Noguchi in front of a Japanese flag and holding a colorful fan.

Collins, flying her fourth shuttle mission, said the view from space made clear that Earth's atmosphere must be protected, too.

"The atmosphere almost looks like an eggshell on an egg, it's so very thin," she said. "We know that we don't have much air, we need to protect what we have."

Howdy ya'll,

Thanks for the Mayan links! I'll definitely post my experience with Barbara Hand Clow. I'm also reading Maya Cosmogenesis 2012 by John Major Jenkins - it is truly mind-blowing. The more you research the Mayans the more profound the whole thing gets. The concept of this time in history being "in-between" world ages is about the only explanation that makes sense of the last few years!

One thing I've found interesting is that the Mayan astrologers figured out the concept of "precession." That is, they observed that some stars are fixed and some stars are moving in the sky. This led them to understand that the Earth was round and it was wobbling regularly on it's axis (astrologers - please forgive me flubbering through this description!) Pretty advanced thinking - and trust me, if you take even a cursory glance at their calenders there is plenty to back up this hypothesis. So this led them to incorporate amazing cycles of the microcosm and macrocosm into their calenders and perception of reality.

But grokk this, the Mayans didn't invent any of these cycles into their belief system, society, what have you. They only noticed what was happening already around them. Thousands of years later we're only beginning to understand what they were onto. That's a good concept to internalize, I think!
best,
Dom

Greetings Astroworlders! I have been experiencing a bit of challenging summer, not being able to make much progress on a mountain of work ... a broken computer left me unable to connect. But now I'm back and want to express my appreciation for Morgana's music, Nancy's insight and fine writing, and especially Sally's insight and stewardship! --And also to all the rest of the AW family with their insightful posts and great links. To PatQOP my hear t goes out to you.

Thanks in particular to Sally for the New Moon wish list. I've just completed mine. This one is particularly significant for me--birthday is tomorrow, yes Hiroshima day. As the north node will be exact on my Ascendant on Aug 19 with Jupiter conjunct SN on Descendant I imagine this New Moon and Solar Return should be significant. New Moon is in the 5th so I'm wishing for fulfillment of 5th house potential, most especially a writing breakthrough. May I contribute in some small way to awakening in these dark times.

What a day! Dommael and now Timothy, too. A few threads back, Timothy, we were considering the terms anarchy, democracy, etc., and I'd hoped you'd enlighten us. I though the Greek concept of anarchy described a society where laws were not necessary since the society was so highly evolved. I'd love to hear you set us straight on all this.

Happy Birthday, Timothy, fellow Aries Rising. The New Moon is in my fifth, too. I can't think of a better way to contribute to awakening than creative writing. There is a lot of calling now for the Leo sun to light up these dark places. I'm so glad you're at it. Bank on that Saturn, and his ability to bring things into concrete manifestation. The building of self confidence and the joy of being one's authentic self. You are the judge of your talent.

http://tinyurl.com/axglj

Design for Confusion

By PAUL KRUGMAN

I'd like to nominate Irving Kristol, the neoconservative former editor of The Public Interest, as the father of "intelligent design." No, he didn't play any role in developing the doctrine. But he is the father of the political strategy that lies behind the intelligent design movement - a strategy that has been used with great success by the economic right and has now been adopted by the religious right.

Back in 1978 Mr. Kristol urged corporations to make "philanthropic contributions to scholars and institutions who are likely to advocate preservation of a strong private sector." That was delicately worded, but the clear implication was that corporations that didn't like the results of academic research, however valid, should support people willing to say something more to their liking.

More...

Heads up everyone.

FCC Eases Regulation Of DSL Lines

Information Week Aug. 5, 2005

The upshot: ISPs are on their own, because phone companies no longer have to provide these rivals with low-cost access to their high-speed Internet lines.

Following the deregulatory lead of its new chairman, the Federal Communications Commission Friday voted to ease regulation of phone companies' high-speed DSL Internet access lines, a possible fatal blow to the independent Internet service businesses of providers like EarthLink.

My apologies. Here is the link.

http://informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=167600265

My apologies, but I've been trying to figure something out and, after banging my head against the same wall, figured this was the best place to ask.

When figuring out when one's Solar Progressed New Moon takes place, is it just when the SP Moon meets the Natal Sun? Or is there some other criteria involved? If it's just the SP Moon meeting the N. Sun, then wouldn't every New Moon happen in the same Sign and the same House every 29 years?

Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks for indulging me. :-)

re: Aug. 5 5:21 pm post

In "Dick...", author describes Cheney choosing Bush's Cabinet; then "But cabinet appointments were...window dressing, as became evident when Cheney dismissed [Treas Sec'y Paul] O'Neill for attempting to assert basic priciples of economics and fiscal responsibility in [the] WH..."

Cheney arrived in DC in 1968 (with a very right wing bent) and "...was immediately attracted to Rumsfeld" who did not reciprocate, but after doggedly working to get R's attention, C finally wound up as R's assistant (R was head of Office of Economic Opportunity)in the Nixon WH. They worked together for the next 30 yrs;

Nixon wanted the OEO's mission downsized, but R "started making the case for expanded federal funding of legal aid initiatives." and "told reporters that he wanted to do 'justice for the poor...'" and was subsequently sent elsewhere than the OEO.

apparently, R was hoping to be GW's babysitter VP, but C chose himself instead, and chose R as Sec'y of Defense.

Now we have the Iraq snafu, and in the WaPo article Morgana posted it says, "There is a strong expectation at the Pentagon that Bush will give a recess appointment to Eric Edelman , a former ambassador to Turkey and ONETIME AIDE TO VICE PRESIDENT CHENEY."

Is there some infighting going on now and R needs a "babysitter" too? Or will he be canned for no longer wanting to go along with bad policy, like O'Neill was? Stay tuned...

Does Cheney's chart warrant close examination?

Greetings Shylurker!

As I have to leave soon to pick up my fiancee who has been away most of the summer I cannot do anything more than to send you by this link to the entry on anarchy in the Dictionary of the History of Ideas:

http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/cgi-local/DHI/dhi.cgi?id=dv1-12

There is a lot of talk about what the puppeteers are going to do next to hurt us, to make us cower in fear. Many are waiting for the the next governmental terrorist attack. And so what if it happens. We've survived so many disasters. We probably would not be hit personally . If they take our freedoms, we will have to find our own freedom within. And since things usually don't happen the way we think they will, this attack probably won't either.
But bombs go off always, somewhere and the destructive elements continue, elite or no. The elite are just as much victims of circumstance as everyone.

Since they are trying to control through fear, the best way to beat them, is to be unafraid. They will do what they will, and so can we.

The Moon in this Cancer ruled country governs the subconscious, the darkness, hidden fears, the unknown. We just had Saturn pass through Cancer to familiarize ourselves with this fear once again. One of the functions of the Leo Sun is to shine light on this darkness, bring it into consciousness, and discover the confidence to dispel the haunting fear.

We can take full advantage of this opportunity now if we choose. And Saturn through Leo will keep a firm grip on this light for all of us to absorb. The more we look up and around at all that is being illuminated, the more we can continue with our heads held high. The bombs will fall where they will. The guns will crack. The poisons will unleash. But we don't have to be afraid.

Morgana...yes, you would LOVE the issue and I'll bet you can get it at a local store here...

this came from someone in Michigan, a penpal of the email variety.

YOU should have seen, "Imus In The Morning" on MSNBC today ( 6-9am).........He interviewed a reporter who has been in Iraq for 3 solid years..............this reporter, says..That the reason reporters can't report any GOOD THINGS, about Iraq, is that it's NOT safe. Especially in Baghdad, where the bad guys have their own road blocks, and every day pull people from their cars and shoot and kill them.......to wit  the reporter who was shot and killed this past week............AND THIS WILL GET TO YOU FOR SURE......HE SAYS THE ROAD FROM BAGHDAD INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT IS NOT SAFE TO TRAVEL EVEN 3 YEARS AFTER THE WAR.........

THEN he interviewed  Mike Barncicle (http://www.msnbc.com/news/573850.asp)

who said, "I'm PISSED OFF"........and then went on to anguish about the death of the death of the 20 Marines this week..........he said that a WHOLE STATE has been effected by those deaths.......AND THE PRESIDENT IS ON VACATION AND WILL NOT ATTEND THIS OR ANY OTHER FUNERAL........NOR WILL ANY OF HIS CHEERLEADERS ATTEND........he said WHY, doesn't some of the SENIOR STAFF at least attend...........BUT NOT A SINGLE PERSON WILL..........he said send Rush Limbaugh, who rants every day how WONDERFUL, this War is.......HAVE THE PRESIDENT ATTEND, AND LOOK INTO THE FACES OF THE FAMILIES WHO ARE ATTENDING THEIR LOVED ONE'S FUNERALS.......

it was a VERY POWERFUL SHOW.........

In Memoriam to those who gave their lives in the two greatest terrorist acts of humankind:

" In theory, it lies within the power of reason to desist from experiments of such hellish scope as Nuclear Fission if only because of their dangerousness. But fear of the evil which one does not see in one's own bosom but always in somebody else's checks reason every time, although everyone knows that the use of this weapon means the certain end of our present human world. The fear of universal destruction may spare us the worst, yet the possibility of it will nevertheless hang over us like a dark cloud so long as no bridge is found across the world-wide psychic and political split -a bridge as certain as the existence of the Hydrogen Bomb. If only a World-Wide Consciousness Could Arise that all division and all fission are due to the splitting of opposites in the psyche, then we should know where to begin…people are largely unconscious of the fact that every individual is a cell in the structure of various international organisms and is therefore causally implicated in their conflicts.”

Carl Gustav Jung [1956]
The Undiscovered Self in Civilization in Transition

" The conflagration that broke out in Germany was the outcome of psychic conditions that are universal. The real danger signal is not the fiery sign that hung over Germany, but the unleashing of Atomic Energy, which has given the human race the power to annihilate itself completely… the facts can no longer be hushed-up or painted in rosy colors."

CIVILIZATION IN TRANSITION
Carl Gustav Jung
( Princeton, 1964 )

" These are the Spells by which to reassume
An empire over the disentangled doom:

To suffer woes which Hope thinks infinite;
To forgive wrongs darker than death or night;
To defy Power, which seems omnipotent;
To love and bear; to hope till Hope creates
From its own wreck the thing it contemplates;
Neither to change, nor falter, nor repent;
This...is to be
Good, great and joyous, beautiful and free;
This alone is Life, Joy, Empire, and Victory ! "

Percy Bysshe Shelley, Author;
Prometheus Unbound

Oh Jo, I love it.

Here's another:

A Dream Within A Dream

Poem lyrics of A Dream Within A Dream by Edgar Allan Poe.

Take this kiss upon the brow!
And, in parting from you now,
Thus much let me avow
You are not wrong, who deem
That my days have been a dream;
Yet if hope has flown away
In a night, or in a day,
In a vision, or in none,
Is it therefore the less gone?
All that we see or seem
Is but a dream within a dream.

I stand amid the roar
Of a surf-tormented shore,
And I hold within my hand
Grains of the golden sand
How few! yet how they creep
Through my fingers to the deep,
While I weep - while I weep!
O God! can I not grasp
Them with a tighter clasp?
O God! can I not save
One from the pitiless wave?
Is all that we see or seem
But a dream within a dream?

If you have not read Barbara Hand Clow, you are in for a treat. Around five years ago I completed a trio (don't remember the names and I passed the books on to others that wanted them, as I always do), but I felt a definite exhilaration of energy and a conciousness expansion. She is truly a master.

Her website is http://www.handclow2012.com/

Also I read Eric Francis regularly and he thinks 2012 is "up for grabs." In other words, it depends on what we do NOW (simultaneous time) that will take us to the portal in time at the end of the Mayan calendar.

http://www.communitywordproject.org/mural_tour_10.htm

"Unlocking the door I see the blue large sky and I feel golden wings growing out of my back so I can fly."

Jo, Laurie,

Thank you so much. This is why tyrants fear poets.

Barbara

Sally, just checked out final posts on last thread and your kind advice about Leo new moon wishes: "everyone throw their shoulders back and live large" was so heartening.

Since early this year I've been trying to help my Scorpio daughter deal with a situation where she was defrauded to such an extent that she is in danger of losing her house. New moon in Leo is in my 4th. (No natals there.) I'm making the biggest possible wishes.

I don't know my daughter's houses because she was adopted and we don't have anything more precise than her birth day and place. A very good local astrologer told her once that likely Gemini is her rising sign. I had always thought Libra because she is so careful to be fair and because natal Venus is there and she is very attractive. However, Gemini would work, too. She is very good at the day to day living stuff (and I've noticed that is both a Gemini and Virgo trait.)

Sharon--re Mars in Pisces--whoo, boy! I've got Mars conj Saturn in Pisces. Transiting Uranus is conj both. Meanwhile, transiting Mars is conj my natal Uranus. And transiting Saturn is opposite my Sun. I Am Not driving! Walking everywhere or riding as a passenger. And being very careful. (Had some experience with the Mars/Saturn hits in the past.)

Barbara, Go in Peace and May the Force be With You. You are inspiring!

Garry, thanks for the Skolnik link. It does not seem to me like "tin foil hat" territory at all, but sadly a well developed and completely logical progression of the many stories I've read over the last several years. If the MSM ever really decides to connect ALL the dots: AIPAC + the treasonous neo-con/Israeli allegiance connection (and I'm Jewish!) Gannon + Bush, the Reagan/Bush 1 era pedophile ring, the real 911 events, what Jack Abramoff has really been up to (including his connection to the 911 hijackers), the SCOTUS reality of the 2000 election decision, the secret Cheney energy meetings to divvy up Iraq's oil resources prior to the long planned invasion, the extent of worldwide secret detention/torture centers run by the U.S., etc., etc., etc., the American people will step out of their mammothly grotesque SUVs and put down their giant plates of tainted beef just long enough to probably go stark raving mad with revenge lust for what Bushco has really done supposedly in their name!

Forgot to sign my previous rant/posting. Sorry!

New Moon on my natal Moon/Pluto in Leo in my fifth house. (Another Aries rising person.) Hmmm.

Barbara Hand Clow also wrote an interesting book on Chiron.

Some interesting gossipy tidbits from the Arab/American point of view:
http://aaiusa.org/countdown/countdown.htm

Ditto on the friggin hot. My poor plants are blistering.

As to Cheney? I think, very soon, he will be done for one way or another. Probably, his health. Corrosive is as corrosive does.

Grizz, you ROCK!

Beasley, ashes to ashes, dust to dust, rust to rust. What's he gonna get? A handsome coffin and marble statuary on his plot--purchased by Halliburton?

May we get through these next few days with some grace.

The NYT, running about two years behind:

http://www.nytimes.com/pages/politics/index.html
C.I.A. Leak Case Recalls Texas Incident in '92 Race

More...

...........

http://journalism.nyu.edu/pubzone/weblogs/pressthink/2005/08/05/nvk_strm.html

Why Robert Novak Stormed Off the Set
Old Novak rules: sorry fellas, can't talk. New rules: Novak chooses. This, I believe, is the cause of what happened on air. The legitimacy of Novak's exemption from questioning had collapsed earlier in the week. Ed Henry was ready with that news. Novak was not ready to receive it.

More....

.............

http://mediamatters.org/static/audio/lowry-200508050012.mp3

Rich Lowry's idea of humor: Hitting Hillary Clinton with a car, bin Laden's polygamy

In an August 5 speech before the Young America's Foundation's National Conservative Student Conference, National Review editor Rich Lowry lightened up the crowd of high school and college-aged conservatives with jokes on such topics as Osama bin Laden's reputed polygamy and Lowry's fantasy of hitting Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) with a car. Lowry is a frequent guest on PBS' The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer.

More...

Aloha, Timothy! Hope your day today is just splendid to be followed by many, many more. All the best to you in the coming year.

Pat C....it is the hubris which does people in....that and the temptation to repeat successful strategies....which then become patterns. hubris!

Write PBS and let them know what you think of Rich Lowry's "joke". newshour@pbs.org

Jonathan, I sent your message along with Pat's post to a group of email buddies...

Where is everyone, on vacation? it is certainly quiet. Must be that everyone is busily writing up their wish lists....right Sally?

Oh thank you judi and Jonathan! I hope it goes everywhere!!

Hubris is almost too kind a work judi.

I have too much to do today, so I won't be he much. See you later.

New Moon inconjunct Mars in Pisces in the Fourth, semisextile Midheaven. I finally had my shades put up, and am going through the house looking for items to donate to a yard sale. I've noticed I have a lot of items I will never really use again, and I'm tired of the clutter. Plus I have this great urge to work on my website too.

Later on I'll do my "Great Wishes" list....

About New and Full Moons: I've heard that the influence is three days-just how long is it? The New Moon was on Thursday night-is Saturday too late?

I think Sally mentioned up-thread that it's 24 hours before and 24 hours after, but, regardless of the time, I still think it's a great idea to make your Wish List.

What in the world? Anyone have any psychic intuition about this:

http://sun-herald.com/Newsheadline.cfm?headline=6413&banner=1

This just enrages me! The so called farmers here in the valley use this crap. Because, "boo hoo" we just can't compete with the big corporate farms. So, moron...go organic or eliminate pesticides and chemicals completely. This is NOT farming it is chemical warfare......SCREAM. By the way, the frogs are becoming scarce in the streams, creeks and rivers here in the Valley.

http://www.rense.com/general67/mons.htm

BBC says Robin Cook has died:

Former minister Robin Cook dies

Robin Cook was airlifted to hospital
Former Cabinet minister Robin Cook, 59, has died after collapsing while hill walking in north-west Scotland.

It is believed he was taken ill while walking with his wife Gaynor on Ben Stack, around 1420 BST, Northern Constabulary said.

Mr Cook was flown by helicopter to Raigmore Hospital in Inverness, with attempts made to resucitate him.

Mr Cook quit as Commons leader in March 2003, in protest over the war in Iraq.

Following his death, a report will be prepared for the Procurator Fiscal, as is usual in such circumstances.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4127654.stm

Full speed ahead, on to Iran! (we're gonna get whupped big time.

Sometimes I think he's full of it, but here goes:

http://www.matthewbooks.com/mm/anmviewer.asp?a=39&z=2

With that I'll quit taking up space Bye!

Patricia

My heart aches... a light has gone out... Robin Cook was a man of principle... a courageous man who stood against the invasion of Iraq... who accused Blair recently of going to war knowing it was illegal (Downing Street Memos). We will miss his bravery... his integrity.

Well Jo, it just seems to be getting worse. We lightworkers just can't catch a break. The dark is pushing out the light.

Something smells fishy here.

Patricia

Sally,

Can you check the planets'configuration for the
past week? Are they indicating air mishaps period
starting with France's Airbus in Toronto - luckily
everyone escaped. Today, Tunisian plane crashes
in Sicily killing 19. On Monday, Discovery with
its problems trying its reentry into earth's atmosphere, what does it portend for Discovery?

Jonathan, over at Star IQ they have many of Robert Hand's writings which I've always found most helpful. You probably already know that, but just in case . . .

And that brings me to the question, asked of nobody in particular, What relationship is Barbara Hand Clow to Robert Hand (if any)?

How astute you are, Shylurker!

Patricia, do not despair - lets just send more Light. I always find the Matthew readings so encouraging and my intuitive counselor did say that the Bush administration was going to resign in shame. Love and Light to You & Eric today.

Sharon - do you really believe these "Matthew" readings?? I find it rather disturbing that a mother would somehow "use" her dead child to make a fortune off profit from books. What makes anybody believe that she is somehow special that she gets to "talk" to her dead child when so many other mothers who have lost children do not?? Always this "Matthew" makes outrageous predictions that rarely come true ... I find something fishy with the whole thing but that is just my opinion and intuition I guess.

Susan, I have to agree. I stopped reading the Matthew site awhile ago as nothing "he" ever said has come to pass and I'm convinced that this is some type of scam also. It also bothers me that somebody would seem to be making a profit off a dead child.

Well, guys, I haven't been following it that long and, to tell you the truth, don't remember any predictions, just the general positive outlook, the idea of having ETs helping, and blocking nuclear war, etc. You both probably have good reason for what your saying. At the same time, I really, really hope they are right about the legal case coming down the pike. That one could be right, you know!

Just ran across this tid bit which may upset Bush's vacation...especially if it gets some media play.

Anti-war protesters march toward Bush ranch

By Steve Holland 1 hour, 20 minutes ago

CRAWFORD, Texas (Reuters) - About 70 anti-war protesters marched toward
President Bush's ranch on Saturday shouting "bring the troops home now" from
Iraq, led by a California mother whose son was killed in combat in Baghdad.

The protest coincided with release of a Newsweek poll that said 61 percent of Americans disapproved of the way Bush was handling the situation in Iraq. The poll came after more than two dozen Americans were killed in the past week in Iraq.

Newsweek said it was Bush's lowest rating on Iraq and the first time it had dropped below 40 percent in its poll.
Pentagon officials have said maintaining public support for the war is key to the troops' morale.

snip

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050806/pl_nm/bush_dc

Oh, Morgana, I was just about to post this and now I will to follow you up.

"On August 4, Cindy Sheehan announced she was going to Crawford Texas to stop the killing and demand George Bush answer questions on the war. She plans to stay throughout the month of August, or until Bush agrees to meet with her."

Well she did it.

http://www.lightupthedarkness.org/blog/default.asp?view=plink&id=1304

Well, excuse me... but it appears that the only ones "allowed" any "free will" are "illuminatis." It sho' ain't MY will that babies & children be blown to bits, nor do I believe for a moment that they've "contracted" to "experience" such a thing for their "soul growth." GimmeaBreak.

THREE WOMEN, who are friends, in the past couple of weeks, have turned up with cancer. That's on top of my now dead dad & four OTHER female friends. The nasty old warcoots are just excercizing THEIR "free will" to poison us all I guess. Now THAT could be believable... since it's what's happening.

THAT! would be MY "free will" I can tell you right now. Mad Dogs are SHOT before they do damage to others, but NOT human[?!?!?] becoming Mad Dogs. Noooo... they get to TAKE their Death Cult "free will" out on everybody else. GimmeaBreak.

May All Nasty Wargeezers receive what they dish out most horribly to others, pressed down, & running over. Blessed Be. But it'll never happen... it's just a great idea imo.

I'm thinking that mebbe human becomings have the POTENTIAL for free will. Jung said: "Free will is the ability to do that which one must do." That about says it all for me.

Sharon - I commend you for being so positive about things. I guess I'm getting a bit jaded in my outlook as IMHO none of these predictions ever sees the light of day. After years of reading countless accounts of "lightkeepers" and beings from other planets who are supposed to be watching over us or making their appearance soon it seems things just get worse, not better. I have sadly come to my own conclusion that there are no other "beings" in whatever form here to help us and that we ourselves have to be the ones that save the planet in the here and now. I also don't put much stock in any grand legal case coming down the pike or this administration "resigning in shame" .. tend to think these people have gotten away with so much already that it's just another day in the office for them no matter what they do next. Nothing seems to stick to these people and I'm worn out and sick of all of it like so many others are also.

I don't believe entities 'outside' our dimension are coming to "save" us - anymore than I believe the fundies are right to believe they are going to be 'raptured' up somewhere... that's my belief system, anyone else is entitled to their own... whatever gets you through the night.

We must take responsibility for what needs to be done now. Many of us are doing that by simply trying to tell others what is going on with these fascists... some send out white light and prayers. That's all we can do... at the moment.

((((Joanna))))

Sorry to hear about your women friends. White light to you... may you move gently through these difficult weeks and months.

(((((Joanna))))) Hugs to you.

............................................

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/8/6/161447/5551
Sibel Edmonds, Beyond Vanity Fair Allegations

Thank you, Sharon. You're such a kind,gentle and sweet soul. I love to read your posts. As for Matthew, I read the postings with a jaded eye. And, I do believe that we are the masters of our own destiny, but Lord wouldn't it be nice to think we MIGHT have a little help.

By the way, I sent an e-mail to Suzanne Ward stating my opinions about sending light to the Illuminati (I think it's useless)and how can Matthew make predictions about an invasion of Iran and Bush being removed from office. (his batting average is kinda lousy). And, why are the lightworkers being left in the lurch while the dark entities just keep on murdering and pillaging? The email is rather caustic. We'll see if there is any response.

Oh well, good night all.

Patricia

Is this a disaster in the making?

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Newsweek_Leak_prosecutors_boss_likely_to_be_replaced_with_Bush_classmate_Scull_an_0806.html

Well, Newsweek goes to press tonight between 2-4AM. In the bindery around 4M. The first copies will be out around 6AM. When I go to work at 8AM, there should be plenty of copies to read before the newsstand copies go out the door. We'll see what "newsspeak" has to say.

Oh! They'll pay for this stupid move!

Raj, you asked about the air crashes and the astrological signs. Saturn in Leo and Mars in Taurus this last week in a square pattern. Soon Mars will be in a square to Neptune, with Jupiter just passing a trine to Neptune and Mars will inconjunct Jupiter in that trine. (even though Jupiter will have passed by that time) expect big jump in oil prices, big jump.

I don't know what Mr. Fitzgerald was or is doing, but a year ago there were several articles stating indictments were on the way (summer of 2004) and Rove was top of the list. I am not surprised about the appointment of a Yalie for his boss, his past boss has for some reason held the investigation up and looks like it will soon die a natural death, because if Mr. Fitzgerald was going to do something he could have done something by now. He is in a dangerous position and is dragging his heels on this one.

Nothing is going to happen over night or over 5 years, this has been going on for well over a hundred years and the unraveling will be fast in comparison but not fast enough for us, I do realize that. We are at the end of a centuries old pattern, that takes time and some frustration but we will get there.

I was looking for a particular Thomas Paine quote the other day and got a lot more than I bargained for, let me share a couple of them from the 1770's.

"It is never to be expected in a revolution that every man is to change his opinion at the same moment. There never yet was any truth or any principle so irresistibly obvious that all men believed it at once."

"We have it in our power to begin the world over again."

"The whole religious complexion of the modern world is due to the absence from Jerusalem of a lunatic asylum."

Sharon,
Patricia is not me Pat QOP. But the love and white light are much appreciated!
I wasn't familiar with the Matthew papers...... but the legal case part may be right. Last night I picked up bits and pieces, that hint that Tom Flocco was right ( at least in part)
just premature!
Thanks also Timothy for the well wishes and Happy Birthday!
if somewhat belated.
Very glad for the report on Cindy Sheehan in Crawford. Pat who has chosen to be hospice worker to Eric, has been corresponding with Cindy for months. Ingrid who went with me today, met her in Fayetteville, at the demonstration last winter. They both went to hear her speak in Blue Hill at the annual find raising fair for the alternative radio station on July 23.
We settled Eric in the rehab and went to lunch, wondering what was going on in Crawford...........................................
If any of you would like to share your thoughts/spirituality with Eric to help him in his difficult passage, I think it will happen soon. Mercifully I think it will be quick. He charged into this world fighting, fists doubled up and blue. He has fast forwarded through, a lifetime of karmic growth, just in the past month & 1/2.
Send to psharpart@hotmail.com and I'll print them up and take them to him. He was really touched by the well wishes I printed out when this began.
Pat QOP

(((((((((((((((Joanna))))))))))))))))))
PQ

Pat QOP if you would email me I do have something for Eric, but would prefer not placing it on the site.

Now this is a story and a great one, the money is starting to flow to progressives.

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Post_Sunday_80m_to_fund_new_wave_of_liberal_gr_0806.html

I respecfully disagree Sally. I don't think Fitzgerald is dragging his heels. Miller and Cooper dragged their heels for a year. Miller is in jail, and it's not for 'not revealing her source.'

imho Plame is tied to the AIPAC spy scandal. Three indictments have been issued in the Franklin matter, and more to come… it all is tied together in a huge conspiracy to “fix the intelligence” around the invasion of Iraq, and maybe more. The FBI was tailing the AIPAC folks before 9/11—- they finally nailed Franklin (Feith’s guy) and wiretapped him to get these two… Judith Miller is tied in with this conspiracy… that’s why she’s in jail… Fitz knows WHO she talked with, he wants her testimony (I’ve read the superceding subpoena carefully). This investigation has gone too far to “whitewash” it. Evidence has been accummulated and shared. Fitzgerald does not have to answer to Flannigan, and only power Flannigan has is to fire him. The case will still be there, papers have already gone to the judge, and he has seen charges against Miller, even tho’ they were redacted for public consumption. Nope, this is not going away, not to say Dubya et al won't pull some 'Saturday Night Massacre' kind of event to try to make it go away. Course, I'm still looking at this from a 'legal' position. If they circumvent the law... well, we all know what that will lead to ---

Dan Froomkin at Washington Post has some quotes on the power Flannigan will have:
http://tinyurl.com/clx89

Cindy Sheehan. She is hanging in there. "There" being Crawford Texass. The nearest parallel I can draw is to Pat QOP who is hanging in there and inspiring us all--strength, strength to the max.

PQ,

It amazes me when confronted with the knowledge of how little control we have over other people's destinies and over life in general. We always seem to end up having to let the chips fall where they will. From my perspective you are responding to all of this with a tremendous amount of wisdom and understanding.

I remember the exact moment when I knew that my beloved husband was going to die. I stopped trembling, took a stiff drink of hard liquor, put on my sequins, and went to his hospital room where I watched the sunset and thought about my future. Then I crawled up and joined him in his hospital bed (the nurses were wonderful and let me do whatever I wanted by day and into the night), where I watched the most beautiful documentary on artists all across America. My fate was sealed. A week later he died at home.

I do believe that the dead leave us great gifts when they go if we can receive them. They want us to be compensated and they know full well how hard it is for us to see them go. How forlorn we will be.

I think you might be coming into a great creative period in your life. In time. There is really nothing to hold you back. I still believe in justice and balance, and that our gains are equal to our losses.

Ouch on the big gas price jump, Sally. Wonder just how big it will be this time? It's presently $2.29 per gallon here on average in Northeastern Ohio -- down from about $2.34. Maybe $2.60 or $2.80 may not be out of the question by the middle of this month? Could it even reach $3.00? It's already nearly that in some places, I hear. I was expecting that we'd get up there sooner than later, but really not until the end of this year.

Incidentally, the Peak Oil circles are really in a tizzy right now:
http://www.peakoil.com/forum1.html

Good Morning AW. What a comfort to come here....local friends are still sleeping!
Jo, your analysis of the Fitzgerald case is a great comfort, it backs up with fact, what I feel in my "gut". I know...... I know.....but I do have a 12th house sun, like ***h, only my instinct is right on. It's when I have ignored or tried to reason it away I've gotten into trouble!
JM, What a poignant, & wonderful story, the sequins & the sunset! I hope you are right about the creativity..I miss it so..................
Shylurker, good update on Cindy..has it been on C-span? And the feedback about strength! My pain goes way deeper than tears, so I fear being perceived as cold!
Coming home yesterday we took a different route, came up over a hill; and way below was a body of water shining in the sun, and Cadillac mountain ( Acadia Nat Park) in the background. These people ( 3 houses on the hill) have the best waterview in the state ( Eastern coast?), without the tax on it! Must go there with canvass & paints!!!!!! Funny how the tourists flock to the park itself, and swarm up the Mt. in their hiking boots, without ever really SEEING the MT.!
I think I have found a new cause...merging organic farmers with hospital kitchens! They think about feeding the poor, but not the sick! Yes taurus sun- food, 12th house - institutions!
PQ

Cindy Sheehan is not going quietly into the night. How many more? Ohio folks are angry! Those ripples are going to travel.

Mom Protesting Iraq War Meets Bush Aides

By DEB RIECHMANN, Associated Press

CRAWFORD, Texas - The angry mother of a fallen U.S. soldier staged a protest near President Bush's ranch Saturday, demanding an accounting from Bush of how he has conducted the war in Iraq.

Supported by more than 50 demonstrators who chanted, "W. killed her son!" Cindy Sheehan told reporters: "I want to ask the president, 'Why did you kill my son? What did my son die for?'" Sheehan, 48, didn't get to see Bush, but did talk about 45 minutes with national security adviser Steve Hadley and deputy White House chief of staff Joe Hagin, who went out to hear her concerns.

~ snipped ~

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050807/ap_on_re_us/bush_peace_mom

Ohio folks...
Anger simmers below the grief as Ohio dabs Iraq wounds

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1505&ncid=1505&e=4&u=/afp/20050806/ts_alt_afp/usiraqmemorial_050806005812

Pat QOP, I see your artists mind and soul is using all your best senses to the highest good. My arms reach out and give you just enough of a hug to give you a little more serenity.

Walk in beauty.

Mornin' Morgana. You're up bright an early.

Ohio has so darn much to be angry about. The State and the people have been truly used and abuse by the neocons.

surprise, surprise(as Gomer Pyle used to say):

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7162.shtml

Morn'in from the west coast. Yup up early it's become a habit, 5am. The other side of that coin is our micro climate is hitting triple digits again today and the only time to get things done is while the house is still cool.

The morning is always a beautiful moment Morgana. The afternoon may be for sitting in the shade under the sprinkler.

The one at the bottom is the best!
Scott McClellan's Soup du Jour:

Round about the cauldron go;
In the press releases throw.
War, that under hot Iraq
Days and nights has sweated
Poisonous rot,
Boil thou first in White House pot
http://smirkingchimp.com/article.php?sid=22247&mode=&order=0
PQ

http://www.buzzflash.com

It's Sunday, and where is your president?

The same place he was after reading that Al-Qaeda was planning to hijack planes in 2001,shortly before 9/11. He's on vacation, "clearing shrub" that they plant for photo ops to make him seem like a Marlboro man, when he's just a wimp and a master at disaster for America.

He and Condi Rice read a report in August of 2001 that said Al Qaeda was going to hijack planes in the U.S., and they did nothing. Did they consciously let the "new Pearl Harbor" happen (perish the thought!) or were they just run-of-the-mill incompetents. Does it matter?

The real question is why are they still in office when they pose such a threat to our national security? Good question.

Bush Refuses to Meet With Mother of U.S. Soldier Killed In Iraq, Cindy Sheehan. George is a Coward. He Lets Other Men Do His Fighting for Him, And Then He Won't Meet With Their Grieving Moms. The Guy is the Master at Disaster, and a Closet Wimp to Boot.

Turns out Scooter Libby and Judy Miller met July 8, 2003 to discuss Valerie Plame -- two days after her husband's column rattled the White House. Bush Allows Scooter Libby NOT to Fully Cooperate with the TreasonGate Investigation. Is that Because Bush is a Co-conspirator?

More than 10,000 marchers stormed Martin Luther King Jr. Drive and trekked through the historic Atlanta University Center chanting, singing and clapping on Saturday in support of extending the 40-year-old Voting Rights Act.

Supreme Court Justice Stevens Criticizes Death Penalty 8/7

Two Traitors to America Yuk it Up 8/7

http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050802/NEWS09/508020390

Tax reformists get cash infusion

Anonymous funds back [OH Sec of State Kenneth] Blackwell group

A newly created nonprofit group has anonymously funneled nearly a quarter million dollars into an initiative seeking a constitutional amendment to restrict state spending.

Citizens for Tax Reform, the ballot initiative fronted by Secretary of State Ken Blackwell, has received five contributions totaling $225,000 from Ohioans for Responsible Government, incorporated in March by a pair of lobbyists and an attorney in Columbus.

The contributions represent 75 percent of the total $304,584 received by Tax Reform during the first six months of the year, according to a campaign expense report filed Friday with Mr. Blackwell's office.

Incorporation documents filed with the secretary of state's office list the three directors of the new Ohioans for Responsible Government as Tom Whatman, lobbyist and former executive director of the Ohio Republican Party; lobbyist Tom Needles; and attorney William Todd.

Among Mr. Needles' clients is industrialist and charter school magnate David Brennan's White Hat Management.

More...

Corrupt. Completely stinking corrupt.

You're right Jo and I thought of that last night. Miller and Cooper took it to the Supreme Court. And I hope against hope that everyone is right about this situation but I don't see it, I want to see it, but the fact is neither Gonzales or Comfy (sp?) would have let Fitzgerald stay in place if he could or would do real damage.

While Rove obfuscated in the beginning, he readily gave his waiver to Cooper, Scooter has yet to do so, except he did give a blanket waiver in the beginning. Given this administrations tendency to hide, lie and stonewall, they are not simply sitting by and giving Fitzgerald the power to indict them. These are people who have defied the courts and Congress. Won't give up papers on Roberts, Energy, Bolton, 9/11, Iraq etc. It's hard to believe they don't have something up their sleeve on this. Fitzgerald and the Grand Jury simply do not have enough power, the only hope is if Fitzgerald has people behind him with more power and has compromising information on them that cannot be refuted, and I don't rule that out, I just have serious doubts.

Keep in mind Sally, the Republican Party is not united any more. I just saw Kay Bailey Hutchinson (sp) the other day. She use to appear bold, but now she just looks tired and pale. I took it as a strong omen.

On the good news front, Huffington is keeping a bulldog prespective on the story, according to her the NYT is also trying to find out the story.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblog/archive/arianna-huffington/the-expanding-judy-file_5248.html

I have a feeling that Fitzgerald DOES have people behind him who wield an unprecedented amount of power. People who thought Bush would be a nice, simpleminded, stupid puppet who would sit in the Oval Office and they could just get all their stuff done without him interfering much. He was supposed to be their nice, happy, Avg Guy face for the Public.

But when the Puppet starts to cause more harm than good, begins to find his backbone, starts to believe HE'S the one in Power, and the Party becomes more hated than ever, well, maybe it's time to get the Puppet back in his box, so to speak.

I've always felt that Bush would leave in disgrace and be the most reviled President in American History. And something like that doesn't happen by accident. Those who pull the strings will put out the word and, BAM!, the press turns, the indictments come down and Bush is severly wounded, in a matter of speaking, and can't cause any more harm.

Perhaps I'm dreaming, but that's how I feel in my gut this will happen.

So, I do think Fitzgerald holds the cards ... and people with more sense and power than Bush are letting him.

Just my two cents.

Yup, it was probably the same group that did their best to destroy Carter.

Maybe if Fitzgerald is "fired," he'll start to leak.

Pat QOP may the grace of white light comfort you and Eric.

Bush removed the Federal Prosecutor and Grand Jury in the Guam with Abramoff which is potentially a more serious situation than Rove outing Plame. The other hope is Fitzgerald moved too quickly in fingering Miller and Cooper and thanks to Joe Wilson kept it in front of the people and it would look too incriminating to remove Fitzgerald now, except they didn't seem to think the Bolton situation was serious enough in the public to cooperate with Congress. This is an administration that behaves as if nothing they do will be stopped, and so far they've been right. I just don't see Fitzgerald as being the power king that can stop them. We are in a true mess here and it involves both sides of the aisle.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-guam7aug07,1,5281180.story

Don't know how true this is, but it would absolutely be worth the price of admission if it would actually happen. Flocco says Bush is ready to fire Fitzgerald and if he does Federal Officers would immediately arrest Bush. Could this happen? I don't think you can arrest a sitting President, just a Vice President

http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=7431

Well, it use to be that you couldn't sue a sitting President either. The neocons changed that.

I think that Fitzgerald IS powerful and is aligned with those in Power, which doesn't necessarily mean Bush, Rummy, Rove, et al.

True Power is something not often seen on the surface. Those who boast and brag and swagger often have very little, if no, power to speak of. But the ones pulling the strings from behind the curtain? Those are the ones who call the shots ... and that ain't Bush OR Cheney.

So, my gut instinct tells me that Fitzgerald is aligned with those pulling the strings and these people, seeing the damage done to the way the World Community sees us (which can greatly affect their Bottom Line) and Bush's horrible lurch to the Right (which can turn many Moderates away from The Party), are becoming increasingly aware that Bush is no longer helping them, but hurting them. So, he'll have to go.

Again, just my intuition talkin'.

Hmmm... Sacking Fitzgerald would alienate a lot of Republicans who are starting to questions Bush, if they do it's like an admission of guilt. Those are really starting to pile up at his front door and stink.
Ohio may be the epicenter of the ole geo-political earthquake, their pain emotionally, economically and spiritually can be felt around the country. Besides, it's August government is in vacation mode giving the talking heads something to latch on to in their absence and boy wonder's falling poll numbers are just tasty kindling to the flames licking his patootie.
I wonder how many Republican politicians want to be painted red with the blood of Iraq in 2006 ?

Sally
Thank you for these ! My point exactly!

"It is never to be expected in a revolution that every man is to change his opinion at the same moment. There never yet was any truth or any principle so irresistibly obvious that all men believed it at once."

"We have it in our power to begin the world over again."

Ah, Morgana,

You just gotta love anyone who uses the word "patootie". :-)

"patootie"... Hahahahahahahaaaa!!!

http://tinyurl.com/76qya
Army Whistleblower Draws Fire

Sally,
Supreme Court No. 95-1853

"...No. In a unanimous opinion, the Court held that the Constitution does not grant a sitting President immunity from civil litigation except under highly unusual circumstances. After noting the great respect and dignity owed to the Executive office, the Court held that neither separation of powers nor the need for confidentiality of high-level information can justify an unqualified Presidential immunity from judicial process. While the independence of our government's branches must be protected under the doctrine of separation of powers, the Constitution does not prohibit these branches from exercising any control over one another. This, the Court added, is true despite the procedural burdens which Article III jurisdiction may impose on the time, attention, and resources of the Chief Executive."

The above decision refers to 'civil litigation'... the Constitution itself gives remedy for criminal offense in the form of impeachment. Afterwhich, if found guilty, the President would be subject to indictment, etc. However, I did a google cache and came up with historical opinion as well as the 1995 decision and the concensus is that a sitting President is NOT immune to criminal litigation.

Now, that does not address the situation of a dictator...

As for Tomflacco... I have not formed an opinion relative to his comments as yet.

I have always felt that the judiciary of this country was still intact especially after the Schiavo disaster. This could be a test since Jupiter is transiting our Saturn in Libra, transiting Saturn in the ninth coming up. And I can't believe that Pluto will leave Sagittarius without leaving the truth behind. Our nation is under siege, but we have yet to learn exactly why. I've never seen life's experiences come without lessons attached.

I still hold to my view that the neocons could have been set up this last election. That they have become a liability. Something is off about them. There are so many factions in the ruling elite group and I always thought they fuctioned best by keeping their power and agenda hidden. Why would they suddenly change their MO? Why would the Trilateral Commission publically criticize the Iraq War? A prelude?

Good going Morgana, glad you're back!

http://www.celestialweather.com/ftp/current.html
This week looks interesting.

It's also no mistake that the indictments are coming just as Jupiter goes into Scorpio. The mutual reception with Pluto in Sag sets up a powerful Pluto/Jupiter truth digging situation. And the desire for revenge among certain factions will certainly get kicked into high gear. At any rate, the power struggles will be in full force, and nice guys will be given other jobs for a while.
I'm sure it goes way, way beyond Fitzgerald, and their bases are covered. This has been a long, slow, calculated move.

I bet someone will be nailed on that grand fixed cross coming up in November.

Thanks Jo for that information. When Clinton was in hot water over his lies, they kept saying over and over on Television that he would have to be impeached and out of office before he could be indicted because a sitting president could not be indicted except for a "rule" indictment. I didn't know and asked a Constitutional attorney if that was true and he said yes, so that is the basis from which I am coming. I will contact him again and ask him to clairfy a "rule indictment."

The first half of Dec 2005 looks like a doozy, too.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/07/politics/07panel.html?pagewanted=print

9/11 Group Says White House Has Not Provided Files

.............

http://villagevoice.com/blogs/bushbeat/archive/001135.php

Sudden Death for War Critic
Losing Wellstone was bad enough; now Robin Cook takes a hike to the great beyond

.............

http://empireburlesquenow.blogspot.com/

Dick Cheney is certainly not loved by many

I've been reviewing Plamegate, tMercRx right?! I ran across this comment by John Dean:

"...As Comey explained, given Fitzgerald's U.S. Attorney status -- which will be continuing concurrent with his "special counsel" status -- there will be no interruption in the investigation. Comey noted that if Fitzgerald "needs to issue a subpoena involving the media, for example, or if he wants to grant immunity to somebody," he will not have to obtain approval of the Justice Department. (The reference to the media certainly hints at subpoenaing Novak's phone records, or calling him before the grand jury -- again suggesting progress in the inquiry.)"

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20040106.html

Note the reference to "special counsel". I was not aware Fitzgerald had this concurrent status. Legally, it gives him greater scope and I believe diminishes the concerns we have this weekend over the speculation that Fitzgerald will have "to answer to" McCallum or Flanigan --- that is show his hand to friends of the administration.

I still cling to the law. If Dubya is indeed as some believe above the law, then we might as well wrap it up --- give up to the fascists (or NOT!) or of course, take to the streets big time. For the present, I am thinking legally --- until such time as I get a memo indicating otherwise. That being the case... Dubya puts his pants on the same way every other male does, and he is subject to the law... Poppy can clean his driving record and he himself can hide his father's presidential records under "classified" and run the gov't under secret Executive Orders... but if the populace sees him fire Fitzgerald or emulate Nixon in any matter... it is all over for him and his group. At least the facade will be stripped away. Again, my trust is in the law.

Neat article.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/07/nyregion/nyregionspecial2/07ctstars.html?pagewanted=all

A Secret of the Stars Revealed

Do any of you know anyone, or know anyone who knows anyone, at New York One?
I mean the local TV channel.

UPDATE: CitizenSpook goes into detail about the legalese surrounding the WH indictments:

http://citizenspook.blogspot.com/2005/08/treasongate-white-house-indicted-us.html

namaste and enjoy---esp. on Monday, the 31st anniversary of Nixon'e resignation announcement.....

Here are some clues as to why I think the Neocon game might be in trouble and Fitzgerald is part of it.

The powers never would have let Congress strip Bolton of his power. The Iran nuclear game is getting to be a comedy of errors. Today they are back continuing their full nuclear program.
It looks like the Christian Right is being cut out of the game. Maybe an appeal to moderate Republicans is in the cards.
Some liberal think tanks are being developed and funded heavily by that faction of the elites:

The Washington Post reports that “At least 80 wealthy liberals have pledged to contribute $1 million or more apiece to fund a network of think tanks and advocacy groups to compete with the potent conservative infrastructure built up over the past three decades.”

Of course, there's George Soros, who was once a Neocon, behind a lot of this.

Well, there are blogs and there are blogs, and of course I visit those that I consider have integrity. At 11:20 pm, "Joe" posted on americablog.com his synopsis of attending a conference about blogs in Washington, DC. He is referring here to Markos at dailykos.com:
"Markos said one thing last week that I thought was very important, and it was probably lost on many. He said the blogs were non-competitive. That's also true. I don't think people in DC can grasp that concept either. I mean, even organizations that ostensibly support the same goals compete viciously with each other."
I too doubt people in DC can grasp that concept. It's one we here at AW would readily and heartily embrace (and already have, just hadn't thought of it in that way).
Night-night all! May you dream the dreams of the sages tonight, Pat QOP, and add your wisdom to theirs.

Peter Jennings has died...

Peter Jennings
July 29, 1938
Toronto, Canada

It's been a really hard 2 years on Journalists

He was diagnosed with lung cancer a month & 1/2 before Eric!
......................... We were really sad that night!
PQ

Mercury rx in action!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8839616/

NASA delays shuttle landing until Tuesday

Lots to read and chew on here:

http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=126&contentid=2553

and here:
http://www.illuminati-news.com

and ESPECIALLY here(regarding those indictments):
http://www.stewwebb.com

(((((Pat QofP)))))

White light to you and Eric, sweet lady. Know that all of us here hold you in light and love.

WV,

Where are you?

Dear Pat QofP:

I'm gonna assume you know the truth in this:

"Your bodies are but the temporary housing you designed prior to birth... The soul is eternal!" (from the Matthew Books link posted above)

I also want you to know that when a person is preparing to die, that person is eased if he/she is told directly by his/her loved ones that it's ok for him/her to go. Certainly you will miss Eric when/if he leaves, certainly you will be sad and mourn and grieve. That's just an expression of the love you have for him and the loss you'll experience. Nonetheless, if you can simultaneously remain aware that the essence of Eric -- the most valuable part -- remains, it might help.

I understand the loss of a child for a parent is painful beyond my imagination. I hope you're blessed with being with him when the time comes, because it's quite something to witness and experience. It's also enormously comforting to spend as much time as you can with his body afterwards.

Hope I'm not freaking you (or anyone else) out. But I really want you to know this ahead of time. If you want to e-mail about it all, please feel free to e-mail me at lorikoyote@sisna.com. There are also some websites out there about this type of thing that you may find interesting and/or helpful.

Much love to you, PofQ!

Now I'd like to address the comments upthread re: "Matthew's Books" website.

Never been there till today, and only have read the article at the link posted.

Typically (for the last few years at least), I roll my eyes at new age-y pap. The contents of this article spoke to me, though, and I felt uplifted inside. I felt inspired and reassured.

No one is required to agree with me nor to believe what was said in the article nor to feel any way other than how they've expressed above, and since I haven't read anything else there, I don't know what predictions people refer to "that never came true."

I'd like to say a lot more, about the content of the article I read and how it explains that type of thing, but I'm trying to keep this short.

I can understand the anger and hopelessness some are experiencing relative to today's political climate in the US. Still I'm sad to see the lack of any apparent hope at all. Questions re: profit aside (and what's it to ya? Then don't buy her books), maybe Matthew's mother is able to communicate with her dead son because of a gift or talent? Maybe because she is open to the possibility? Why isn't everyone a psychic? Sheesh. Lighten up, you all. I use the word "lighten" to mean "less harsh re: a woman you (presumably) don't even know" AND "IN THE LIGHT."

Think outside the world!

Sally...re the prediction of the jump in oil prices....a friend emailed that last week regular was 2.69/gal and now it is 2.79/gal here in SF bay area...

Krugman wrote about the housing bubble bursting soon....sad about Peter Jennings.....

I am doing an exploration into fairies, elves, etc, as I will be doing some murals with another artist in a store which will sell the items...and I came across this.....which is specifically for Morgana:
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Hybrid Enigmas: An Exploration into Faerie

by J. A. Harris © 2004. All Rights Reserved.

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy"
-Hamlet, Act 1 Scene 5-

The idea that we share this planet with otherworldly beings exists in more than one culture and belief-system. It is a part of the cultural makeup of most ethnic groups. As such, these beliefs are as diverse as the human race itself.

One of the more popular names for these entities stem from the same root-word for "Fairies" or Faeries. What are these creatures, and what is the origin of this belief? Keightley, in The World Guide to Gnomes, Fairies, Elves and Other Little People comments that the word "Fairy" most probably originated from the "Persian Peri". He makes this fascinating observation:

"It is said that the Paynim foe, whom the warriors of the Cross encountered in Palestine, spoke only Arabic; the alphabet of which language, it is well known, possesses no p, and therefore organically substitutes an f in such foreign words as contain the former letter; consequently Peri became, in the mouth of an Arab, Feri, whence the crusaders and pilgrims, who carried back to Europe the marvellous tales of Asia, introduced ito the West the Arabo-Persian word Fairy. It is further added, that the Morgain or Morgana, so celebrated in old romance, is Merjan Peri, equally celebrated all over the East."

whoops...sorry, didn't realize I had copied all that other stuff...I think some gnomes got into it!
judi

On Peter Jennings...from another source at a different site,

Using the 5am birthtime for
Jennings, places natal Saturn
right on the MC at 18-19 Aries.
The last solar eclipse = 19 Aries.

A lunar return for Aug. 6 at Toronto-
MC = 29*39 Cap = Chiron 29*40 Cap.
A very public illness.
Saturn is in the 4th(beginning and end)
at 2*47 Leo.
Pluto at 22 Sag is in the 8th of death
and -150- the AS 22*51 Taurus.

T. Mercury hitting
Jennings Sun-Mars when his illness was
announced. And T. Mars squares these
at his death.

New planet to be named: Bush-World
...
code named 2003 UB313, the planet is more than twice as far from the
sun as Pluto. The astronomers at Mount Palomar, Michael Brown and
Chad Trujillo, selected the name because they could think of nothing
else further from the American people than the world of George W.
Bush ... Michael Brown speaking at a press conference celebrating
the discovery said "We found Bush-World to be very distant with an
erratic orbit and devoid of intelligent life ... In light of the
global war on terror and our dependence on foreign oil the President
has asked congress to approve a 600 billion dollar spending package
that includes funds to liberate, democratize and set up oil drilling
operations on Bush World ... Nasa administrator Michael Griffion ...
is reportedly upset that 150 million dollars of the spending is
earmarked to write "Welcome to Bush World" on the planets surface
large enough to be visible from space.
...'
- http://www.unconfirmedsources.com/?itemid=1111

Garry,
You've obviously never lived in Texas, let alone Austin. I spent a total of 15 years living in Houston and Austin. "Hook 'em Horns" is a iconic symbol you see UT fans make ALL the time. They are VERY PROUD and GUNGHO about their university and Texas, not just playing Longhorn (a type of cattle) sports.
What the other celebraties are doing is the iconic sign language for "I love you". The paranoid types are taking it all wrong as usual. [It's the sign for "I" and "L" combined. Not being experts at sign language they would goof it up sometimes of couse.]
http://www.iidc.indiana.edu/cedir/kidsweb/amachart.html
You are a bright person, I enjoy your writing, but I wish you wouldn't take their paranoid (and unsubstanciated) word as truth. [Yes, I have spent a lot of time reading their books, etc and still don't see any proof of what they claim. It all comes across as a braty poorman's jealous take on the super rich and powerful.]

Jill G

From John Kerry

"They tried to put a brave public face on. But, as they gathered in Pittsburgh this past weekend, GOP leaders and campaign strategists couldn't hide the fact that they've got their political backs to the wall.

Yes, there was lots of energy at the meeting, but it was the nervous energy of panicked politicians and operatives who know their luck is running out.

Last week, Democrat Paul Hackett, a political newcomer and Iraqi combat veteran, came within 4,600 votes of winning an Ohio special election in a heavily Republican district. Republican operatives laughed about how easily they could defend this district until Ohio voters shocked them and sent a clear signal of what 2006 holds.
Rick Santorum -- the poster boy for the most extreme elements of the Bush agenda -- was a featured speaker at the GOP meeting. Senator Santorum is trailing Bob Casey, his Democratic opponent, and may be the most vulnerable Republican in the country.
And, Karl Rove, whom George W. Bush calls the "architect" of his political success, wasn't anywhere to be seen at the meeting. Rove likes to show up at Republican gatherings with his divisive rhetoric and schoolboy taunts aimed at the President's opponents. But now, his involvement in exposing the identity of a CIA agent for political revenge has put Rove's bare-knuckles political tactics under intense scrutiny.
The Republican National Committee used its national strategy meeting in Pittsburgh to kick off its drive to survive the most critical elections of 2005 and 2006."

Jill G-
Sorry, I should've posted a disclaimer about that part.I haven't lived in Texas but I HAVE seen Texans make that symbol and I know they do take their sports seriously there.

But alternately, as a musician and heavy metal fan, I've also used that very same sign, and I've heard it referred to as the devil horns. They say it's Satanic, but that was never my intent when using it,I just always saw it as adittedly silly way to respond in the affirmative when listening to a good metal band.

As for Bushco., though, when has he ever told the truth? He was born in Maine but plays a cowboy-cum-(p)resident on TV. Given his actions, would you assume he was more of a sports fan or more of a devil-in-disguise? And how convenient that the hook'em horns and the devil salute are similar if not the same thing? (Who'da thunk * was capable of irony or double entendre?)

Not attacking, just asking.

Namaste y'all!!!

Sorry, that should have been admittedly above. I'm a champion speller but a grade C typist. :(

Oh, and Pat QOP, white/pink light to you and Eric, you are loved here. May your transitions be as painless as possible.

Cindy Sheehan reported they had been told she would be arrested on Thursday as a Threat. (It's most likely because Kindasleezy and Rumsfailed are scheduled to arrive--and that's the only road to the "ranch.")

Shylurker, you would think more people would have arrived to support her? Where are the Democrats ? I don't hear their voices. Geeze the woman is getting a ton of air play. Wow arresting her? For demanding an answer from his royal highny?

Arrest the grieving mother of a fallen soldier? A hero, a patriot who died in service to his country? Doesn't sound like a savvy political move to me.
looks like this lone woman has a bit of power.

Morgana, jm--I just pulled this from dailycos.com:

by David Swanson
Mon Aug 8th, 2005 at 10:55:39 PDT

(From the diaries -- kos)

Cindy Sheehan phoned me from Texas a few minutes ago to say that she's been informed that beginning Thursday, she and her companions will be considered a threat to national security and will be arrested. Coincidentally, Thursday is the day that Rice and Rumsfeld visit the ranch, and Friday is a fundraiser event for the haves and the have mores. Cindy said that she and others plan to be arrested.

Just saw that myself, Shy.

It could be bluff, but if it's true, the publicity would be big. I'm beginning to really wonder about this administration. Looks like self-destruct.

Don't forget how vicious they have been, jm. And don't forget that under the Patriot Act, which our Dems voted for (though none, as best I remember, had even read it), she will not have any rights to a lawyer once arrested.

The woman is a national threat... and praises to her!! My gawd nobody else will go up against the b#$%##@... more power to her... and does she need more folks there? Don't think so... this entity, this mother, can handle that spoiled brat all by herself, thank you very much.

Let the little emperor send his soldiers out to arrest her... what wonder images on State TV that will be... "Gold Star Mother Arrested for Asking the Commander in Chief Why Her Son Died... In a War he LIED us into" ---

White light to Cindy Sheehan and to her son, and all the sons and daughters who fell... for a lie. And those who remain in harm's way.

White light to our mother earth...

Hold our heroine in love and light, for indeed she is our heroine... namaste

btw, it's a "farm" --- not a "ranch" ---
ranches have cattle and horses (Dubya is afraid of horses, and he's enough bull, they don't need anymore.

GO CINDY!

Any chance at all of getting her chart?

Shy,

Was just about to tell our fellow Astroworlders about the breaking`Kos report on Cindy Sheehan's impending arrest, when I saw your posts.
Personally, as humiliating and temporarily uncomfortable and inconvenient as it will surely be for Mrs. Sheehan, I'm glad they will be arresting her for the crime of asking Bush to tell the truth (the worldwide press coverage will be awesome, I predict).

I believe it will be an even bigger political/P.R. fiasco for them than the Terri Schiavo debacle, and with people now turning in droves against W and the war, it will be BIG TIME backlash against Bushco.

I sincerely hope that at least a few of our less wussed out Congresscritters of the Democratic persuasion will be there in solidarity (several hundred thousand real 'mericuns demonstratin' wouldn't be so bad either!!)

CINDY SHEEHAN: As stated above Ms. Sheehan has been warned she would be arrested as a threat to National Security on Thursday (the day GWB is holding a big have's and have more's fund raiser) According to the ACLU here in CO, and an article I read with a quote by the White Rose Society (who are helping her legally) in today's Amerika and under the Patriot's Act, if you are arrested as a National Threat you will be held without the right to legal counsel and can be shipped to a prison anywhere in the world for an indefinite period of time. You can be held incommunicado during that stay.

Ms. Sheehan could be in deeper trouble than she realizes. We say if that happens the US would be up in arms, I don't think so. Other families have not yet joined her, not one Democrat or Republican from the house of Rep. or Congress has spoken out on this or tried to support her. My hope is "not yet," and they will begin to speak up. If she is arrested as a protester she has rights under the Constitution, arrested as a National Threat she has no rights under the Patriot Act.

I wonder when we as a Nation steps from behind our relative safety of the blog and begin to rage openly.

They will figure to throw her in jail for several months or years and we will forget about her and go on to rage about something else they have planned. They know we are afraid of open passion, open rage, open grief, we are afraid for our jobs, our spouses jobs, our way of life that's being drained away. Only 50 people are down there with her, not exactly a quorum. Say some prayers for this brave grief-stricken woman who is standing for all mothers.

I think she is protected. I'm proud of her.

Check out these photos:

http://www.iconoclast-texas.com/News/2005/31-40/31news02.htm

I also think that the fact that she is standing pretty much alone is of utmost importance. Why do we always have to have a group for support. The really brave ones don't. She doesn't need a bunch of phony opportunistic politicians. She is showing us exactly how to exercise our rights and responsibilities as citizens and confront and question our elected employees. She is showing equanimity and not this daily hysteria that seems to be so contagious.

I certainly do hope since she is approaching this correctly that the forces will see fit to do the right thing. Wherever these forces originate.

This is a singular act and it stands out in its strength and originality. May the fear be dispelled.

I expect to see our politicians out there. I expect them to stand up. I expect to hear their voices in support of this womans stand and to ask her same questions even louder.
The more People the louder the questions.

Maybe it's time for some of the loud screaming to tone down. It doesn't seem to work. With Mercury retrograde and a phlegmatic Mars going into retrograde shortly, maybe it's time to contemplate the course of action a little bit.
Maybe we should listen to Cindy's soft spoken voice, which would be amplified by some silence around it.

I've heard a lot of shouting protest in my life. That's what is so unusual about Cindy. She seems to be on a spiritual mission and certainly expresses a kind of gentleness along with the magnitude of her message.
We've all got a lot to learn.

She described Bush's eyes in a way that still haunts me. I wish so much people could hear.

Thanks, All. Am going now to turn on Corporate Owned News (CON) to get the latest (if any at all) on Cindy Sheehan.

Jo, thanks especially for mentioning the Resident's fear of horses. I always think it is because horses are extraordinarily intuitive animals and they know a bad 'un when they sense one.

REGARDING CINDY SHEEHAN:

IT STILL AMAZES ME HOW EASILY WE CAN GET CAUGHT UP IN INFORMATION AND JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS. ALTHOUGH THIS MAY NOT BE THE WHOLE OR CORRECT PICTURE, HERE'S ANOTHER PIECE OF INFORMATION. AT THIS POINT IN THE STORY, WHO KNOWS WHAT THE TRUTH IS. JUST FOUND THIS:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

CORRECTION: Cindy Sheehan arrest only speculation
by heatherb
Mon Aug 8th, 2005 at 13:32:44 PDT

"CODEPINK was just able to get through to Cindy and Diane Wilson in Crawford, and there was a miscommunication---the notion that Cindy and others would be arrested was only conjecture by a state representative, not any law enforcement official. Bush's motorcade will be driving down the road where Cindy is camped out en route to a fundraiser Thursday, and the representative told protesters that he "imagined" they would be arrested as a national security threat."

Barbara, I don't think I am a 'bad one' but I too have some fear of horses, and they sense it. Horses that never stumble stumble when I'm on them. I think it is my fear of falling....and not having grown up around them. I feel the same way about skiing....

Garry...Bush wan't born in Maine....he was born in CT.

Maine (Kennepunckport) is one of the hopes of the Sr. Bush (Casper Weinberger Sr. lives there too). Important, since that would skew his birth info....

Thanks for the correction, Judi Gem!!! :)

Yep, Judi--in your case it is probably the unfamiliarity. I've known lovely good people who are animal lovers as far as humane treatment, protecting habitat, etc. but who are fearful when close because of no experience. And the animals sense it.

Bush's fear of horses is telling to me, though, because of his political persona being built on "playing cowboy." Just another right-wing irony.

I wonder if Code Pink could get her birth data for us.

Pat C.,

She is 47... I can't find dob yet... son was born May 29, 1979... she called him an "old soul" He died April 4, 2004.

This is excerpt from letter she wrote on date of his birth this year... No wonder Bush won't meet with her... she's articulate, passionate --- and she wants answers.
----------------
A letter from a mother to a fallen son
May 29th, 2005
Dear Friends,

26 years ago today, Casey was 6 hours and 49 minutes old. What a joyful day that day was. The birth of our firstborn. He was so wanted and his birth was so highly anticipated. A true bundle of joy.

One year, one month, and 25 days ago (almost to the minute) George Bush and his Crime Cabal killed Casey in Sadr City. One of them, perhaps Condi, Rummy, Bremer, or Cheney, might as well have pulled the trigger that blew off the back of Casey’s sweet head."

http://blog.pdamerica.org/?p=94

Cindy Sheehan, "We are insulted when people like Bush say that America has to 'stay the course' in Iraq to 'honor our children's sacrifices.' Not one more drop of blood should be shed for the lies and deceptions."

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig6/zeese2.html

Casey's Peace Page

http://www.angelfire.com/sk3/spkhntrca/Casey.html

AN OPEN LETTER TO GEORGE BUSH

November 4, 2004

Dear George,

You don’t mind if I call you George do you? When you sent me a letter offering your condolences on the death of my son, Spc. Casey Austin Sheehan, in the illegal and unjust war on Iraq, you called me Cindy, so I naturally assume we are on a first name basis.

George, it has been seven months today since your reckless and wanton foreign policies killed my son, my big boy, my hero, my best-friend: Casey. It has been seven months since your ignorant and arrogant lack of planning for the peace murdered my oldest child. It has been two days since your dishonest campaign stole another election…but you all were way more subtle this time than in 2000, weren’t you? You hardly had to get the Supreme Court of the United States involved at all this week."

More at link above

Delay in TX opened his Foster Home Project today under a Mercury RX and a highly combustible astrological picture. I don't know the specifics, of course, but I suspect this Project of his -- which, to me, feels like a front for politically and financially nefarious dealings, unfortunately -- could eventually go up in flames and take his political career with it.

Just FYI

Dear Friend:

Judge John G. Roberts has been nominated to fill the Supreme
Court vacancy left by the retirement of Justice Sandra Day
O'Connor. This is a lifetime appointment to the highest court
in the land.

Without prejudging the nominee, I do believe that Judge
Roberts' record raises questions about his commitment to the
right to privacy, protection of the environment, and other
important issues. With so many rights and freedoms hanging in
the balance, this Supreme Court nomination deserves a thorough
and in-depth evaluation by the Senate Judiciary Committee.

I believe that it shouldn't be only Senators who get to ask the
questions of Judge Roberts. I want to know what you care about
the most. That is why I have joined with six of my colleagues
- Senators Barbara Mikulski, Patty Murray, Mary Landrieu,
Debbie Stabenow, Maria Cantwell, and Hillary Clinton - in
reaching out to the American people.

We are asking you to help us let the Judiciary Committee know
the questions that are on the minds of many Americans. If you
have a question for Judge Roberts, please visit our special
webpage at http://democrats.gov/askroberts/ There you can fill
out a simple form and submit your question. I will compile all
questions from you and other California constituents and submit
them to the Judiciary Committee as it considers the Roberts
nomination.

Sincerely,

Barbara Boxer
United States Senator

Ohmy, Jonathan... I think you're correct.

http://www.voxfux.com/features/bush_child_sex_coverup/article_archive.htm

http://www.ncpc.org/ncpc/ncpc/?pg=2088-1209

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/LAW/09/10/child.exploitation/

http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2005/02/stirring-white-house-honey-pot.html

etc etc etc

Rt-wring protestations... http://www.traditionalvalues.org/modules.php?sid=2230

There you go again, Joanna! Agreeing with me? What next?! Dogs and cats living together? :-)

RE: Cindy Sheehan, go ahead and laugh, but because it's on earlier than others, my husb & I frequently watch our local Fox Snooze Channel evening news (we have just rabbit ears). THEY (of all people) had a quick little snippet on their news last night, that she is protesting outside Bush's "ranch." (quotes are for you, Jo ;-D )

So it's out there for common public consumption.

It's natural someone (like the Rep mentioned) would threaten her with the arrest; but let's all remain calm. These guys have lots of worldly power, but they don't have ALL the power, and it's one thing to whisk away Middle Easterners (in our white- and fear-based society); entirely another to whisk away the mother of a fallen soldier. Don't worry. She's got a group. She started it herself. And if you read any of the lone star iconoclast link above, there ARE others with her: Hiroshima survivors, Iraq Vets against the war, etc.

Crazy, but true:

a woman in the grocery store had on a t-shirt with the following words (in LARGE letters):

I (heart) Halliburton

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was dumbfounded!

Wonder if she is the driver of the big *ss pickup truck in the lot, with the bumper sticker that said "I stand with [P]resident George W. Bush"?

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Jaycee:

REGARDING CINDY SHEEHAN:

IT STILL AMAZES ME HOW EASILY WE CAN GET CAUGHT UP IN INFORMATION AND JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS. ALTHOUGH THIS MAY NOT BE THE WHOLE OR CORRECT PICTURE, HERE'S ANOTHER PIECE OF INFORMATION. AT THIS POINT IN THE STORY, WHO KNOWS WHAT THE TRUTH IS. JUST FOUND THIS:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

CORRECTION: Cindy Sheehan arrest only speculation
by heatherb
Mon Aug 8th, 2005 at 13:32:44 PDT

What makes you think heatherb's 'speculation' is any more reliable than anyone elses, especially Cindy's own thoughts on the matter. She is the one putting it all on the line isn't she. The rest of us armchair spectators can only speculate, including heatherb.

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Thanks so much Jo for the Sheehan info.

* ...We owe Cindy a great deal of gratitude for taking this powerful stance. For mos, now, natl support for the War in Iraq has been falling because of doubt & anguish from those families who believe deepest in serving their country thru the military. Unlike the war protests of the 1960s that began on college campuses & amongst soldiers returning from Vietnam, the anti-War movement of the 21st C has begun at the kitchen table. It is not a counter culture mvmt. Today's anti-War movement begins with the cries of families who believe deeply in military service, who have served for generations & who were proud of the good their children set out to do in Afghanistan/Iraq.

This time, cries against [rez]'s policies in Iraq are rising up from kitchen tables in small towns across America. The power of this new protest mvmt will not be found in huge protests filled with nameless, faceless masses. The power of this new protest movement will be in the cries of patriotic parents whose belief in the military & whose love for their children is far more powerful than the empty phrases of a [rez] in hiding.

http://www.frameshopisopen.com/

International (anti-war) Code Pink, "my" group, is also standing with Cindy.

Mygoodness, Jonathan... when you're correct (imo), why then, you're correct. Nothin' personal. ;O)

Sally, if Cindy was arrested, Especially without legal representation, I think it would jar a lot of people, she would become a martyr of sorts and there would be an big uprising in support of her. I know it seems unlikely at this point because of the large amount of passivity among us, and there is no guarantee, but something tells me that we need the Republicans to visibly (not undercover) do something outrageous enough, and that is all it will take. There is a protest planned for Sept 24 in DC as it is.

It may just be a good thing if she were to be arrested but I think the Republicans are too saavy to put themselves in that position or to deprive her of counsel. I don't think people will forget about her. There are a lot of military families out there who feel the way she does and I think they would stand up.

It's the Mother that will finally bring down these out-of-control wargeezers, who were, after all--ages ago--a Mother's babe & child. The geezers will fold up like accordians without Her Lap, the ancient "ruling" throne, tho he narcissistically imagines not. It's an old, old spiritual dynamic & Story.

...at least that is what I hope. And this time, I will join them.

Hummm, worth a read? This from Astrologer Steve Judd in England today:

I note that in GW Bush’s chart there’s a Mercury/Pluto conjunction right where Mercury stands still over the coming ten days. I also note that Jupiter is about to pass on his Chiron/Moon conjunction. If I were advising him I’d be telling him to expect difficult news over the coming few weeks, possibly to do with family. I note his Blair-like ability to extricate himself from the mire, so I suspect that once again, things will happen in private, not to be seen by the outside. Saturn’s about to start knocking him hard for the coming nine months, and I think that Mars is starting this process now. Great time to start a five week holiday. But you can’t hide from Saturn. He’s not old father time for nothing, and the coming nine months will be the visible judge of whether he stands or falls. Final thought before going to press – Mercury/Pluto can be duplicitous, and being squared by Mars in the sky is accident prone or physical in other ways. If this is surgery, you heard it here first

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http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=51528

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