Excellent Sally, and practicle on top of that.

"There are the usual asteroids, fixed stars and Arabic Parts accompanying the signs and planets for this Solstice and Full Moon but the aspects alone are enough to keep a person busy."

Are there any added comments you would care to add on this?

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Proof Of Deception, Not Intention
by David Corn, TomPaine.com
More than proving Bush's intent to go to war, the Downing Street memos offer evidence that Bush's primary case for war was false.
http://www.tompaine.com/articles/20050622/proof_of_deception_not_intention.php

Save Africa From America
by Jeffrey D. Sachs, TomPaine.com
U.S. policy toward Africa is based on the erroneous ideas that Africa can lift itself out of poverty and America is providing enough.
http://www.tompaine.com/articles/20050622/save_africa_from_america.php

Fixed Is Fixed
by Ray McGovern, TomPaine.com
With the Downing Street momentum building, it's time to dispel some of the smoke Bush's surrogates are blowing.
http://www.tompaine.com/articles/20050622/fixed_is_fixed.php

An Economic Tipping Point?
by Jared Bernstein, The American Prospect
The failure to sell privatization may push Americans to say "Enough!" to the risk-shifting that underlies the conservative agenda.
http://www.tompaine.com/

http://tinyurl.com/9fxaz
The Bad Reporter

Just excellent Sally and timely too. I just read online the other day(Sunday or Monday) that there were reports of an earthquake here in TN and Kentucky. I didn't feel it but it made the news, so perhaps it was further west, closer to the Mississippi(and Memphis).

I'm SICK of the "runaway bride" and Wacko Jacko--bring on the real dramas about the DSM and Bushco.'s dirty little plans for world domination--bring on the TRUTH!!!!

And Travieso, to continue our dialogue from last post,I just love PEOPLE. All kinds. We're all on this big rock together, so the sooner we learn to get along and harness our collective energies for good, the better we'll be. I know a little but I have lots more to learn from all of them. Isn't that why we're here, to try to advance the state of the race?

PEACE AND LOVE Y'ALL!!!
Namaste and (((((((Pat QOP & Eric)))))))

Teapot Dome
http://www.wwnorton.com/college/history/tindall/timelinf/teapot.htm

...........

Pat QOP a Chinese doctor I know who treats cancer prescribes massive doses of Bee Propolis. Her patients just chew on the pills throughout the day. It's something to think about.

Light to you both, once again.

Sally,

There are some economic seismic tremors - in the
stock market and real estate market of at least 20% decline OR more waiting to occur in the second half of this year. Do you see that astrologically?

check this out

http://www.bushlies.com

Yes Raj, I do see astrological indications of a serious financial fall and I think it will be sudden and shocking for the average joe on the street. I am very concerned about it, one thing for sure, it will get the attention of the American people. Polls are showing that Americans are in a funk now, that is the "collective" psychological precursor of an economic fall. This time the ones who will be hit the worst will be the ones with money (I think)

Very thought provoking article in the Economist,
Sally, on this very relevant topic. It sends chill
up the spine, when you read the FACTS by Economist
For example, the stock market crash and real estate bubble burst has already occured in Japan,
does any one know when? way,way,way back in 1991
and property prices dropped 40%, stock market lost
70% and more, and the country has not recovered
for more than 14 years! They have some how coped
with this calamity because of their frugal nature.
When such an economic crisis HITS here, forget it
Survival will be REAL painful what with no body
here even does not know what FRUGAL means!

http://www.economist.com/printedition/dispalystory.cfm?Story_ID=407927

Yes, * is visibly shaken. Whatever he says will continue to impugn his reputation. Great article, Sally. Have been keeping up with your excellent articles (Nancy's as well). The work you make available is credit to you and this site.
karen

From the ridiculous to the ridiculous!
Court to argue if employers can demand women wear makeup

In a depression will they be able to afford it?

http://www.bakersfield.com/state_wire/story/5582312p-5553465c.html
I am recording all your wonderful suggestions, and will look into them all.
((((((((((((((((XO))))))))))))))))))PQ

Sally,

That is so fascinating about the Mississippi incident and the Venus progression. That's why I love astrology. It's so orchestrated and graceful. A dance I feel lucky to be a part of. Once again, thanks for the connection.

The "I think about Iraq everyday" statement unnerved me, and I thought I was getting immune. I do feel though that he is about to be controlled by the forces. He really is a distraction and I'd like to see us get down to business and do what we have to do.

The Moon/Pluto in the 8th of the solstice chart is pregnant with possibility. I think women have been preparing for some time for this moment. Maybe the men who come into prominence will have more of the feminine aspect developed as well. Our Cancer country always need some motherly comfort. Some tenderness. To be enfolded in warmth and soothing sounds. Hopefully this strident tone has become too much for the Cancer sensibilities. We still love a good romance with sentimental songs and a happy ending.

I was thinking...

The United States of America is guarded at its entrance by a woman, a beautiful and proud woman, the Statue of Liberty. Her crown reminds me of the crown of thorns Jesus wore. It's as if she is a balance to the male personification of holiness.

Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 7:24 PM

JUST SAY NORUBA

By Arianna Huffington

I was thinking a lot over the weekend about the news and about how the news becomes the news, and then I read Jay Rosen's brilliant take on the Downing Street Memo coverage [to read Jay Rosen's whole piece go to huffingtonpost.com]. Rosen elaborates on Josh Marshall's assertion that "news stories have a 24-hour audition on the news stage, and if they don't catch fire in that 24 hours, there's no second chance." Rosen's theory is that blogs have become the news cycle's appeals court, and that the Downing Street Memo story is still alive because it won on appeal. And thank God.

But, unlike a traditional court, the Blog Circuit Court of Appeals lacks an enforcement arm. The only way its decisions can be enforced is by constant reiteration of the decision.

Which brings me back to this weekend. If you were to get your news only from television, you'd think the top issue facing our country right now is an 18-year-old girl named Natalee who went missing in Aruba. Every time one of these stories comes up, like, say, Michael Jackson, when it's finally over I think, what a relief, now we can get back to real news. But we never do. When one of these big league non-stories ends, they just call up a new one from the minors . . . and off they go with another round of breathless reporting. Anything to not have to actually report actual news.

Here are the number of news segments that mention these stories: (from a search of the main news networks' transcripts from May 1-June 20).

-- ABC News: "Downing Street Memo": 0 segments; "Natalee Holloway": 42 segments; "Michael Jackson": 121 segments.

-- CBS News: "Downing Street Memo": 0 segments; "Natalee Holloway": 70 segments; "Michael Jackson": 235 segments.

-- NBC News: "Downing Street Memo": 6 segments; "Natalee Holloway": 62 segments; "Michael Jackson": 109 segments.

-- CNN: "Downing Street Memo": 30 segments; "Natalee Holloway": 294 segments; "Michael Jackson": 633 segments.

-- Fox News: "Downing Street Memo": 10 segments; "Natalee Holloway": 148 segments; Michael Jackson": 286 segments.

-- MSNBC: "Downing Street Memo": 10 segments; "Natalee Holloway": 30 segments; "Michael Jackson": 106 segments.

When defending these choices, news execs inevitably fall back on the old "we're just giving the people what they want." But are they? Fox News averages around two and a quarter million viewers in primetime; CNN hovers just under a million; MSNBC pulls in a quarter million. We have 280 million people in the country. That means that tens of millions of people actually don't want what they're being given -- and that there are huge slices of audience a real news operation could go after.

The mainstream media regularly confuse interesting with important. What's more, they don't even do the former very well, and they largely ignore the latter.

One wonders what happens to all those enterprising young broadcast journalists being pumped out by J-schools across the country. I speak to them occasionally, and they all seem to be truly dedicated to reporting the news. So what happens to them between grad school and the moment they do their fiftieth windswept, beachfront update on Natalee Holloway? Surely no one actually aspires to spend their life describing the pre-verdict scene outside the Santa Maria courthouse or filling up airtime with a feature on the party scene in Aruba. This can't be what they wanted to do with their lives, can it?

In any case, here's my suggestion: Go cold turkey. Just say no. Every time you see or hear the word "Aruba" or "Holloway" on the screen in the next few weeks, turn off the TV, or change the channel. I've been trying it -- and it's not easy (I've found the Cartoon Network is a pretty safe -- if nerve-rattling -- escape valve).

This is not to minimize the tragic elements of Natalee Holloway's disappearance. It is tragic -- but it's not news in the way the Downing Street Memo is news. Or multiple deaths in Iraq are news. The deaths of 19 year-old Lance Cpl. Adam J. Crumpler, 26 year-old Lance Cpl. Erik R. Heldt and 36 year-old Capt. John W. Maloney were confirmed by the Pentagon in the last two days, but you won't hear their names repeated on Fox or CNN.

But be warned: Even if you try really hard to go cold turkey, the Scandalous Non-News Story of the Day still has a way of seeping into your consciousness. It's some kind of tabloid osmosis. Despite my best efforts, and an incredibly quick remote control technique, I've still found myself starting to offer an opinion on one of them at a dinner party before pulling up short. "Wait a second," my brain starts to shout, "I don't even care about this story -- why do I know so much about it!?"

But it's worth a try. And until the Blog High Court gets a better enforcement mechanism, we, as viewers, will just have to practice jury nullification.

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My favorite phrase from the article is:

"...power is slipping from this administration’s grasp, and the harder they try to hold on, the more it will slip..."

All I can say is "Yay, Sally!" Thank you and keep it up.

I know that no one knows the definitive answer, but do you all think it's fairly safe to keep one's money in an insured bank or CDs, something like that, as opposed to the stock market. I never did buy Euros or Silver or Gold.

My 2nd favorite phrase is:

The wheels of justice grind slowly but exceedingly small.

That phrase is SO reassuring and a rock to hang onto. I was just wondering why certain Republicans will do anything to stay in power and how to we get the public to realize it? My friend, before she opened her eyes, had the attitude that it's all politics as usual - everyone lies and manipulates. The answer I come up with is that Republicans are very competitive, moneye, ruthless business people while Democrats really care? How is that when the Republicans are ruled by Cancer? I imagine this was covered at some point in previous articles about both parties.

JM, your ideas and imagery are innovative and beautiful, as usual.

My 2nd favorite phrase is:

The wheels of justice grind slowly but exceedingly small.

That phrase is SO reassuring and a rock to hang onto. I was just wondering why certain Republicans will do anything to stay in power and how to we get the public to realize it? My friend, before she opened her eyes, had the attitude that it's all politics as usual - everyone lies and manipulates. The answer I come up with is that Republicans are very competitive, moneye, ruthless business people while Democrats really care? How is that when the Republicans are ruled by Cancer? I imagine this was covered at some point in previous articles about both parties.

JM, your ideas and imagery are innovative and beautiful, as usual.

Sorry about the typos and dropped letters. I almost never proof my posts anymore - I guess I feel that comfortable.

wv,

I was addicted to television when I was a teenager, but thirty years ago I literally threw my set in the dumpster and never watched it again. I refuse to let anything have that much power over me.... telling me when to get up and eat, when to urinate, what to spend my money on, what to spend my precious life energy on.

It's not just the quality of programming. It's the incredible violent assault on the senses. The constant shrieking, the false high blood pressure raising level of excitement, the commodities literally being thrown at you, the jerking, nauseating, equilibrium upsetting fast camera movement, the sense of fear and urgency, the horrible color, and the tinny sound no matter how many sub woofers you use.

The breathlessness is a sign of the shallowness of the content. And the constant repetition of the negative messages are impossible for me to take in. Every technological advancement does nothing to add depth to the experience.
I think it is a major cause of disease in our society. Or maybe the symptom. Whatever, it is sickening.

Deep full breathing and minimal television input would be a glorious thing.

Oh, Sharon, thank you. Thank you so much.

Sally, thank you for this article. Extremely interesting and informative. I don't know what I would do without you. Truly.

With all the predictions you read around the internet, I thought you all would enjoy the predictions of the American Indians:

http://www.crystalinks.com/native_american.html

Sharon,

You bring up a great subject for discussion. I have to step out now, but would love to talk about this now that Saturn is leaving Cancer.
Just one thing.
As with all signs, the good and bad manifestations run the full spectrum. One of the horrible characteristics of bad Cancer energy is the tribalism and extreme protectionism of the clan to the point of killing strangers. That impulse when backed up can cause this ruthlessness, I think. The suspicion of outsiders can get out of whack and end up in fear and hatred of those posing no threat. The fear can also lead to the amassing of commodities for protection. The more you amass, the more you have to fight to protect it and the vicious circle is perpetuated.

Laurie, Thanks for posting the American Indian prophecy. I haven't looked at it yet. Did anything in particular stike you?

Yes, jm, Cancerians do hold on and amass, but are they ruthless powermongers using deceit and lies to meet their aims? And, you're very welcome. Your posts are so well written and thought provoking.

More than enough to chew on for a good couple of weeks, Sally..Thanks ever so much.

Personally, I think the innauguration chart of 2005 hints at the break up of the Republican Congress. Uranus sits in Pices where Vesta used to sit (Innauguration Chart of 2000). Vesta rules secret service, CIA, FBI and the zealous missuse of information. Uranus now breaks up that cabal.

Many things have to happen before Shrub is ousted. The Downing Street Memo's, the break up of the Republican Party into two or more factions (already started), the fall of certain financial institutions ( already started), and the slow, dreadful drum beat of an eternal war.

I think the split of the Congress is now key. I also think that if we keep our bites and nips coming from all side, the beast has to fall. I think we can crank the wheels of justice a little faster.

The women who have lost their sons to lies will be a very potent force to reckon with. One more hue of Moon/Pluto in the 8th, also repeated in the 2005 chart of Ceres in Scorpia opposing the innauguration ascendent. Ceres is no yielding waif when seaching for her lost child. She can create a veritable hurricaine, screaming until the gods are forced to make peace.

In fact, the Solstice Chart for Washington is quite similar to the Innauguration Chart for 2005.

Saturn is in it's detriment in both Cancer and Leo. It will overcompensate and behave badly in the arena of each sign. But this time Chiron lurks 180 away. Further, I think with Uranus hovering around 9 and 10 Pices, when Saturn reaches 10 Leo, it's "power" will be morphed slightly by the Uranian 150 aspect. The even larger split in the Republican Congress? This all in tandem with Uranus dancing with the US natal Uranus, and the 2005 Innauguration Moon. "now is the hour of our (divine) discontent."

I woke up this morinig very depressed...which is how Cancer/Capricorn energy always has affected me. I can always tell when the moon is in Capricorn BECAUSE of the depressed thoughts (Cap in 3rd, Cancer 9th, but they are intercepted in those houses). Perhaps it is the reality factor....depression/reality are often hard to distringuish for me....and as such, can be very much a guidepost.

And Jo, I thought of you last night while listending to Majority Reports on Air America...they were interviewing an author who wrote a piece called 'that's White of You' for the new Harper's about another rewriting of archaelogical history of america....that 'caucasoid' types were the first residents of america, not the am indians we know. The author (Jack something..didn't catch it) was talking about how his aunt told him long ago that he was a direct descendant of Charlemagne, which puffed him up for a decade until he entered college statistics class....and here is the punch line, Jo, .....just what I said about genealogy....WE'RE ALL related to Charlemagne now, because after about 700 years, EVERYONE alive is related....!!! cracked me up....you can escape, Jo, you too are related to Charlemagne!

Then Garafalo and Seder interviewed a repub from TX wo called in wanting to know how to get Dems to vote for him when he runs in the primary in the fall to beat out the other, more conservative repub who has the job now. they started by feeding him some Dem issues and points, and the guy kept saying, no...that would OFFEND my districts voters. He even, apparently, has a minority race wife and STILL he is worried about offending repub voters....so in the end, Jeanine was saying, what if this was RACIAL instead of GAY issues (he said he thought gays should be treated equally, or just didn't care either way)....would you still worry about 'offending' people? This guy was really clueless....he wanted free advice on how to lure dems to his side without any core belief that he could offer to substantiate such positions! To her credit, Jeanine didn't go off on him....although she certainly made it clear she was puzzled by him.

But she did go off while talking about conservative Cliff May....she was yelling pretty loud that he was a treasonous disgusting liar for his positions on Gitmo (and Durbin).
I loved it.

Then I mentioned all this to a friend who said she didn't like Garafalo because she was 'shrill'. funny....all those male shrills, and she choses to use the word about a person who is passionate. Thanks, I'll save shrill for the likes of Hannity and O'Really?

As far as being depressed....in this case, it is reality that is depressing....and my guidepost is telling me to DO something about all of it....no matter what it is, do it. Very Nike like!

In 1976, Saturn went into Leo and we became enamoured with the "common man" as in Jimmy Carter, (we did the same thing in 1948 with Harry Truman, Saturn was in Leo) the glitz of Leo didn't seem so appealing. Two movies of that period stand out, "All the President's Men" and "That's Entertainment Part 2" both movies showed what went on behind the scenes of the glitz and seeming glamor, and "Rich Man Poor Man Book II" was on the bestseller list. We were concerned about the environment and the economy. We stopped reeling from the Nixon years and settled into and for something real. Cars became energy efficient, we looked for alternative fuels and solar heating.

My dream for Saturn in Leo (it's fall as jm or Sharon pointed out) might produce exhaustion with the Tom Cruise type obsessions, obscene payouts for sports figures and for sporting events period, as well as movies at the theater (these are already suffering) We might not care which fork the Hiltons use and most of all we may be beyond sick of the money CEO's get related to what the common man receives. The last time Saturn was in Leo, there was a slight economic depression but a sense of all working together to improve things.

Saturn in Leo can put a stop to the "fun" we think we've been having by watching the stars. Saturn will also be moving into the 9th house of the US chart, we will be in for an education just as we were in 1976 and the environment, we will be learning something new here while "celluloid" reality will take a dive.

We won't trust money, or the people who possess it, we won't trust marketing spin, or razzle dazzle. Saturn in Leo shows up everyone's lack of authenticity. Too bad for the GOP who have become the "fat cats."

BEASLEY, I am so sorry, IT WAS YOU who pointed out Saturn in it's fall for CAncer and Leo. But jm and Sharon, you also gave some very valuable information. I just want to get it all straight.

Jo...this should have read you CAN'T escape, Jo, you too are related to Charlemagne!

Raj/Sally thanks for the info on financial aspects.

My daughter got really bummed out last night because her husband only got a 4% raise (although his company said he was the only one who got ANY raise at all)....and I had thought all along this would happen to him - she has Cancer Venus/Moon but is a double Leo....I told her we are in for a serious 2 years coming up (and her husband has 6 Virgo planets, he's going to have an even worse time of it)....but I also believe that in about 2 months they will be giving him more money, as they promised in his interview review. They just landed about 100M in contracts from Bechtel to build cell sites in the bay area....but don't get paid until the sites are built. He gets up at 4:30 am and gets home at 5:30-6:30 pm.....and my daughter is working from home full time with 2 little kids. The tension is so thick it is making me crazy.

This life style in the USA is detrimental to ones soul. I told her that today and she told me I was depressing her. I told her reality was depressing anyway. But she agreed with the lifestyle thing. The tension is quite great. Do you all feel it? It is like a huge cliff which is about to break off and fall. And we (the collective) are teetering on the edge.

We could sorely use a big dose of authenticity in this society. Sally, thanks for saying I posted important info but I haven't said anything astrological for a while.

Interesting that you mention Jimmy Carter (GREAT MAN) because it made me flash on gas lines. That fits.

Sensitive imitation macho males, who secretly think they might be gay or "girly" because they ARE sensitive, are never comfortable with cancerian energy. They "do" a reaction formation... go the extreme in the "other direction" becoming cartoons of what they think is "male." Listen to, for instance, a country music station & you'll see what I mean. Actually, they don't make good males OR good females & apparently find it impossible to just be a human being among human beings imo. Btw, the present ameriCO govt is absolutely STUFFED with cancer-emphasized males (eg bushaholic).

Excellent article as always, Sally. And to everyone else, I always enjoy reading your comments and participating in this lively discussion. Nothing else even comes close on the net.

Sally, I feel like I owe you some money since I am one of the regulars here. I don't know what I can scrape up, but I will sooner or later send you a little bit. I'm feeling every bit of Saturn right now as it progresses through my Second House. Wants me to be a tight-wad, but that impulsive Mars, also progressing through my Second House, every now and then gives me a financial spurt.

And if I'm not dreaming, when I wake up, I may have a very, very wonderful story to tell you all.

Let me just say this. Uranus just progressed into my Fourth House. With a Bang. I think my home life just turned totally inside-out, upside down. Stay tuned...

JoannaOregon, I think one reason for Bush's masculine insecurity is that his Sun's whole sign conjunction with Saturn and Sun sextile Mars in the Virgo. I think that the Mars in Virgo shows a very dicatorial nature and a micromanager. The 12th house is a very uncomfortable place for the Sun, because it is the place the zodiac where we begin to relinguish the idea of self, while the Sun's impulse is to be esteemed and set apart from others. Aspects to the benefics solves these issues, but Bush's Sun has a double "whammy" with aspects to both malefics.

This can also portend a violent death. I do believe that scandal will break out. He will not finish this term in office, but that he could also suffer an assassination.

This Saturn in Leo business sounds like a very sobering experience, but in a good way. I hope it pans out as you have suggested, Sally.

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Things have been going well at my new retail job. I'm thinking about moving into an apartment with the guy who used to be the main writer and owner of this prestigious Texas Democratic blog:

www.burntorangereport.com.

He's a cool guy and a good person to know if I hope to get insider tips. Let's hope he turns out to be a good housemate!

Sum, sum, summertime is definitely here in Texas.

Now this kind of thing makes me feel creepy and it happens all too often. I wrote about the New Madrid Earthquake and have been studying the charts since the Sumatra Quake in Dec., but just now put it in an article because of the close aspects to this Solstice. Tonight CNN had this article posted about the New Madrid Fault line. too much synchronicity for comfort.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/science/06/22/new.madrid.quake/index.html

Sally! Unbelievable! I had this exact discussion tonight on authenticity concerning my Saturn in Leo.

I saw an interview with Frederico Fellini, the great film maker, and he said all an artist is doing is expressing authenticity.

My dream is that Saturn in Leo will make our female stars put their clothes back on. I'm rather tired of looking at inauthentic breasts. But I'm afraid this is a pipe dream.

Oh, Sally, you are always singing such sweet songs for us. They are highly appreciated. You are so in key.

Can't wait, NEOBuckeye! Sounds like a good one.

Neo, Saturn is just about to transit my 2nd house. I am hoping that it gets me to become a much better money manager and more organized in general. I hope it doesn't mean I have to live on a tighter budget but, if it does, it will be good for me. I also have a Moon/Pluto conj. at 18 Leo opp. Mercury at 16 Aquarius. Wondering what that will bring...I hope it doesn't bring trouble with women. Uranus in Aquarius did a number in that respect. I had terrible misunderstandings with a best friend and quite a few falling outs. During the period of time that Uranus transited my Mercury, I felt so mentally sharp and kept coming up with great ideas and shortcuts. At the same time, it hit my 8th house and things kept breaking and needing to be replaced. During that time, I began managing my mother's finances and also rec'd quite a nice raise at my job, a longtime in coming (it also coincided with Jupiter t. Leo, my 2nd house).

That is amazing about New Madrid, Sally. The CNN article and your mention of it. It reminds me once again in the orchestration, and that we are being properly guided.
I appreciate so much how you can get out of the daily crap slinging that's going on in this country and find the wherewithall to study these things.

I always enjoy your articles so much Sally. Thanks.
On the subject of earthquakes, here is a link to a new page on the USGS website - constantly updated and shows probability of California quakes for 24hr ahead time frame.
http://pasadena.wr.usgs.gov/step/

I think someone should do an encylopedical compilation of the characteristics of each sign. It would take volumes.

My prediction is that the Saturn in Leo is going to release a lot of creativity on the Internet. Of a high standard.

POQ, I am a fan of Dr. Mercola's and get his newsletter weekly. I did a search of his site and here a just a few of the articles he has archived on treatment for lung cancer (& other forms). I hope it is helpful and that you glean some simple things that you can do from it. There were a few articles just on the value of sunshine & vit. D to prevent lung cancer. I didn't include these. If sunshine prevents cancer, maybe it helps during the treatment also.

http://www.mercola.com/article/sugar/sugar_cancer.htm

http://www.mercola.com/article/cancer/cancer_options.htm

http://www.mercola.com/2001/feb/28/cancer_supplements.htm

http://www.mercola.com/2000/sep/10/coq10_cancer.htm

http://www.mercola.com/2000/apr/23/oranges_iinhiibit_cancer.htm

POQ, I am a fan of Dr. Mercola's and get his newsletter weekly. I did a search of his site and here a just a few of the articles he has archived on treatment for lung cancer (& other forms). I hope it is helpful and that you glean some simple things that you can do from it. There were a few articles just on the value of sunshine & vit. D to prevent lung cancer. I didn't include these. If sunshine prevents cancer, maybe it helps during the treatment also.

http://www.mercola.com/article/sugar/sugar_cancer.htm

http://www.mercola.com/article/cancer/cancer_options.htm

http://www.mercola.com/2001/feb/28/cancer_supplements.htm

http://www.mercola.com/2000/sep/10/coq10_cancer.htm

http://www.mercola.com/2000/apr/23/oranges_iinhiibit_cancer.htm

Mandeville weekly bulletin...

http://www.michaelmandeville.com/earthmonitor/ecbulletins/2005/ecb_June_22_05.htm

A Rightwing Says Me Street - is right on!

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Thanks for the great article, Sally, and everyone is bringing up so many interesting subthreads here. I second that about your imagery, jm. And I loved reading the whole Huffington article.

About the serious financial fall on the way—is that the reason for “pay off your bills . . . stock up on food and water”, Sally? I keep telling my husband the economy is going to go in the toilet, but feel pretty clueless about how to prepare for it. He thinks you can keep your money in stocks, or you can keep your money in stocks. We both have Saturn in Virgo and I think we both have Aries rising. So Saturn is going into our 5th houses—more reason to worry about our children?

I see the Republicans finally got their anti-flag-burning Constitutional amendment going. Boy, is that a load off my mind. And I think it just shows what a pinnacle of good government we have reached. Now they have got the flag burning issue taken care of, what is left for Congress to do?

http://www.iht.com/bin/print_ipub.php?file=/articles/2005/06/21/news/edwatson.php

The wages of fundamentalism

CAMBRIDGE, England For decades, "big science" - indeed any kind of
science - has been led by the United States. There are warning signs,
however, that American science is losing its edge, and may even have
peaked. One reason is that as religious and political fundamentalism
tighten their grip, they are beginning to sap America's intellectual
vitality.

By contrast, the political turmoil that has broken out on the other side
of the Atlantic shows that Europeans grasp how destructive
fundamentalism can be.

According to a survey in Physical Review, reported in May 2004, the
number of scientific papers published by West European authors had
overtaken those by U.S. authors in 2003, whereas in 1983 there were
three American authors for every West European. The percentage of
patents granted to American scientists has been falling since 1980, from
60.2 percent of the world total to 51.8 percent. In 1989, America
trained the same number of science and engineering PhDs as Britain,
Germany and France put together; now the United States is 5 percent
behind. The number of citations in science journals, hitherto led by
American scientists, is now led by Europeans.

As battles have raged in Kansas and elsewhere in America over evolution
and Genesis, reputable biologists have spoken up in favor of Darwin's
theories, but who knows how many students have already been turned off
biology by these skirmishes?

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http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/050627fa_fact

GOD AND COUNTRY
A college that trains young Christians to be politicians.

In the last days before the 2004 Presidential election, Patrick Henry College, in Purcellville, Virginia, excused all its students fro classes, because so many of them were working on campaigns or wanted to go to the swing states to get out the vote for Georg W. Bush. Elisa Muench, a junior, was interning in the White House’s Office of Strategic Initiatives, which is overseen by Kar Rove. On Election Day, she stood on the South Lawn with the rest of the White House staff to greet the President and Mrs. Bus as they returned from casting their votes in Texas. Muench cheered along with everyone else, but she was worried. Her office was “keeping up contact with Karl,” and she knew that the early exit polls were worse than expected. Through the night, she watche the results, as Bush’s electoral-vote total began to rise. The next morning, after Kerry conceded, she stood in the crowd at the Bus campaign’s victory party, in clothes she’d been wearing all night, and “cried and screamed and laughed, it was so overwhelming.
I found Muench in the Patrick Henry cafeteria at lunchtime one day a few months later. She is twenty-one years old and has clear, bright hazel eyes and sandy-brown hair that she straightens and then curls with an iron. Patrick Henry is a Christian college, though it is not affiliated with any denomination, and it gives students guidelines on “glorifying God with their appearance.” During class hours, the college enforces a “business casual” dress code designed to prepare the students for office life—especially for offices in Washington, D.C., fifty miles to the east, where almost all the students have internships, with Republican politicians or in conservative think tanks. When I met Muench, she was wearing a cardigan and a navy skirt. The boys in the cafeteria all had neatly trimmed hair, and wore suits or khakis and button-down shirts; girls wore slacks or skirts just below the knee, and sweaters or blouses. Most said grace before eating, though they did it silently and discreetly, with a quick bow of the head.
Muench told me that she loved working for Rove—answering the phone and having a senator on the line, meeting Andrew Card, the chief of staff (“He’s a nice guy”), and Vice-President Dick Cheney (“He’s really funny”). She took a bus from Patrick Henry at six every morning to arrive at the White House by seven-thirty. Her work with Rove, she told me, affirmed her belief that he was a political genius.
In her sophomore year, Muench had become the first—and, so far, the only—woman at Patrick Henry to run for a student-government executive office, when she entered the race for vice-president. Campaigns are unusually intense at Patrick Henry; candidates hire pollsters and form slates. One of Muench’s friends, Matthew du Mée, was on an opposing slate, and the race caused a strain. (Both lost.) Muench’s internship with Rove has given her a reputation, much envied on campus, as someone worth knowing. The day we spoke, a sophomore leaned across the table and asked, “How much do you make, starting salary, working on the Hill?”
“I’m not sure,” Muench said.
“I heard one of the graduates working for Joe Pitts is making, like, thirty-two thousand dollars. That’s not that much.” (Pitts is a Republican congressman.)
“Well, it’s not too bad if you’re a single person,” Muench told him.
“Do you have any intentions of running for office?” the sophomore asked.
“Yes,” she said.

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It's hard to be an American. It's hard work. Sheesh.

http://tinyurl.com/8qqea
Bush set to shun G8 allies on global warming

............

Noted on Wonkette

THE PRESIDENT: I appreciate the Secretary of Energy joining me today. He's a good man, he knows a lot about the subject, you'll be pleased to hear. I was teasing him -- he taught at MIT, and -- do you have a PhD?

SECRETARY BODMAN: Yes.
THE PRESIDENT: Yes, a PhD. (Laughter.) Now I want you to pay careful attention to this -- he's the PhD, and I'm the C student, but notice who is the advisor and who is the President.

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGBLK7J3BAE.html

WASHINGTON (AP) - Democrats are demanding that White House adviser Karl Rove immediately retract and apologize for comments that liberals responded to the Sept. 11 terrorist strikes by wanting to "prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers."

"The one thing New York has had since Sept. 11 is unity," said Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y. "To inject politics into this and to defame a large number of people" is outrageous, he said. "It's not what New York and America is all about."

Rove, Bush's chief political adviser, said in a speech Wednesday that "liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers." Conservatives, he said in the speech to the New York state Conservative Party just a few miles north of Ground Zero, "saw the savagery of 9/11 and the attacks and prepared for war."

Rove said the Democratic Party made the mistake of calling for "moderation and restraint" after the terrorist attacks.

Sally, thank you for your usual thorough analysis of the current transits. Am so glad you posted on the Mississippi murders and the current justice. It is true that justice sometimes takes a while. We are still waiting for FULL justice for Watergate... goodness knows how long it will take for us to see justice for what the fascists in Washington are presently doing. I mean they are still 'sowing' aren't they!

Again, thank you for your wonderful writings, your historical perspectives and this wonderful cozy corner...

JM, your comments above re Saturn in Leo:

"I think someone should do an encylopedical compilation of the characteristics of each sign. It would take volumes.

Posted by: jm on June 23, 2005 11:21 AM
My prediction is that the Saturn in Leo is going to release a lot of creativity on the Internet. Of a high standard."

Posted by: jm on June 23, 2005 11:31 AM

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There are many books on the characteristics of each sign... I don't think it would take volumes, considering there are 'key words' for each, both negative and positive. The diversity comes in of course the houses and rulerships and aspects.

I have one book in particular that I consider my bible on characteristics, it's a small paperback "The Astrologer's Handbook" by Frances Sakoian and Louis S. Acker... Leo (Sun) naturally rules the 5th House of Pleasure - self expression, creativity: children (all kinds, humanoid and works of art --- books, paintings etc.). When Saturn enters Leo, it brings with it form and structure... antithesis to creativity... a brake to pleasure.

Sakoian & Acker:
"Saturn in the sign Leo gives natives a need for importance and recognition and a competitive drive for personal control of their environment; thus they seek to attain positions of power and leadership. If Saturn is afflicted, there is danger of developing dictatorial or dogmatic attitudes. The need of these people to defend their ego can result in stubbornness and rigidity. Seeking security by means of autocratic personal authority, they require a great deal of attention and respect from others. Parents with this Saturn position are generally severe and strictly disciplinarian with their children.

Saturn rules the sense of practicality and the appreciation of universal laws and principles of justice. Since these laws are of an impersonal, cosmic nature, as indicated by the sign of Aquarius, which Saturn co-rules, the interpretation of them must be free of personal considerations if an accurate view of reality and successful relationships with people are to result. However, Saturn is in its detriment in Leo, because Leo is the opposite sign to Aquarius; consequently, the laws that Saturn governs are distorted here by egotism and the desire for power. Thus this position can indicate people who must develop a stronger set of values in dealing with love, romance, children, and matters of creative self-expression.

Saturn in Leo gives professional interest in education, and in management in the fields of entertainment, business and speculative investments. Physical ailments usually take the form of stiffness in the back and heart trouble.

An afflicted Saturn in Leo can bring disappointments in love or problems through children, as well as losses through financial speculation."

Sally’s article above affirms this analysis of Saturn in Leo. For further affirmation, see the following link which I posted on the last thread. Be aware that it is fairly negative (imho) and you might need a third cup of coffee! LOL

http://www.starpathvisions.com/Whatmoontellsme.html
I bring these comments to say that I see nothing fun loving or creative, which some of your posts have suggested about, tSaturn’s move in Leo, coming soon, ready or not. :-)

Fundamentalism is no better in India than the USA

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/06/23/MNG7ADDAE11.DTL&type=printable

I was sorry to see Durbin cave. Here is what Howard Kurtz (WaPo) culled from other writers about Durbin, and generally what comments generate outrage these days (it was Mayor Daley who put the screws to Durbin?):

Durbin may be trying to put the whole Nazi-analogy thing behind him, but by saying he's sorry he has ticked off people like Cenk Uygur who writes at the Huffington Post:

"Dick Durbin's apology on the Senate floor today almost made me want to cry . . . when are the Democrats ever going to learn?!

"I think Dick Durbin is a decent man and very good legislator. So, in a lot of ways, I am sorry to take part in what is bound to be a lot of Durbin bashing for his pathetic apology. Now that I've got that out of the way, it was inexcusable.

"Just when we should be getting on the war path to fight back against the administration, he caves and caves huge. To not only apologize, but to have tears in your eyes. Come on, you can't do that. It makes an already weak party look even more miserably weak.

"If you don't stand up for yourselves, you'll never convince the American people that you can stand up for them!

"Instead of apologizing themselves, Democrats should have demanded apologies from Senator Santorum, Senator Sessions and Senator Inhofe for their own Nazi references. Senator Santorum -- just last month -- compared Democrats to Adolf Hitler. There are millions of Democratic veterans who fought for this country, who died for this country, some of them while fighting against Adolf Hitler. How dare Senator Santorum say that?!

"Howard Dean says Republicans are white Christians and the roof falls in on him. Santorum says Democrats are like Adolf Hitler and not one peep from the media. Durbin says we shouldn't be like the Nazis and there's an avalanche of faux media outrage. The administration condones torture hellip and not a damn thing!"

Daily Kos is also disappointed:

"Torture isn't a partisan issue. And by apologizing, Durbin caved to those who worked their best to turn it into one. And the right-wing partisans rejoice -- content in their ability to trivialize what is one of the most serious issues facing us morally, as a nation, and practically, on the battleground.

"As for Mayor Daley, who cut off Durbin at the knees -- a pox on his house. His time is coming to an end. I hope Jesse Jackson Jr. takes him on."

Ann Althouse simply says: "Crying??!!!

"Durbin apologizing. I saw this on TV and found it . . . icky. What are you really crying about, Dick? Your own miserable little career?"

Hmm . . . Can he apologize for the apology?

Saturn moves into Leo in mid-July ... around the 16th or something, right? It'll be working through my 12th House, so I'll be interested to see how that transit plays out in my life. Saturn in detriment in Leo, a very public Sign (and my Ascendant, as well) working in the 12th House of, among other things, Things Hidden.

I am (hopefully) moving into produciton on a movie I wrote, so working very doggedly behind the scenes (very 12th House and, entertaiment-wise, very Leo) could make sense and, as that Saturn moves over my Ascendant, that could translate into my stepping in front of the camera and having THAT burden now on me.

Thanks, all, for letting me muse astrologically aloud. I do appreciate it.

And I'm calling Durbin's office to voice my displeasure with his apology. The Republicans never apologize for ANYTHING. Why should we?!?!?!?!? We just end up looking spineless, weak and pathetic.

Grrrrrrr ...

I did not see Durbin's apology but I do want to point out that one could frame it as the person doing the apologizing is gracious, humble, caring and human, while those too proud to apologize are projecting arrogance and inhumanity. At this point, though, with the public against the administration, it may not hurt the Democrats. Did Durbin take back his chastisement of our torture techniques or only his use of the the Natzi analogy?

I posted something at the end of the last threat that I just want to reiterate in case not many caught it. Jo had posted an item about tracing us all back genetically to the Moabites and, even farther back, to the beginnings of the human race in Africa. I think humans really need to be reminded of that. There is no such thing as a pure blood line -- we are genetically all related. I wish there was a huge publicity campaign on that truth. Although there are those who would deny it, there are many more for whom it might raise their consciousness.

Jonathan! I'd love to hear a little more about your movie. I have an M.A. in film and have written a few screen plays for college courses (which would need work). I just love hearing about and discussing anything to do with films.

I am not proof reading this, so excuse any mistakes (I see them in all my posts) :-D

Senator Durbin: transiting merc. conj. natal Saturn, progressed merc. conj. natal Venus/, opposing natal Saturn.
my guess is he was speaking from the heart with great feeling and this has all hurt him very deeply?

Will study Dr. Mercola's site tonight when I have time.

I perceive Sat. in leo as a damper on creativity! Not painting with ballons, glitter, and tempera paint as I did, during the early childhood workshop i did thru the Me arts commission, but stretching the canvass, and gessoing it & sanding 4 times, or working out the mathmatical calculations to fit a stenciled motif onto a given wall a certain number of times and come out evenly! The end result may be very creative..........but it is "HARD WORK, HARD WORK" to arrive at the end result!
Google Milton Glaser's book 'Art is Work" It is $60.00 worth of explaination of turning a lot of saturn........into what looks like light hearted spontaneous results!
The C student has dropped to a filing grade at this point!

That should be failing grade!
PQ

Healing Mother Earth
http://www.aei.ca/~cep/MeditationFocus132.htm

check out rawstory.com--apparently the Justice Dept. has censored some content on gay.com.....it's a breaking story

namaste and TRUTH and white light to all!!!

Steve Bell is right on again - great cartoon

http://www.guardian.co.uk/cartoons/stevebell/0,7371,1512668,00.html

Homosexuality a "disease" claims Spanish professor....creatinism is everywhere...

http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/story.jsp?story=648979

Jo....I, too, feel that Saturn in Leo will restrict creativity, although it might assist people in staying focused on what they are doing, so I agree with you on this interpretation. Saturn is a focusing device, IMHO. For me, who has a Leo MC/Venus/Pluto/Moon/Northnode/and Chiron (and some asteroids) in the 10th house, and having Saturn just pass over my Jupiter at 26 Cancer, I feel that I have to be quite careful....it is not only a focusing device, but a depressive one, and since this is my career house (and THAT is in the toilet now), a big problem.

No money, no career, I've been there and done that.....(under the last bush in 1990). I just got released out of 10 years of Chapt. 13 payments...I'll probably have to go back in again, because of the loss of income and my mother's debts. So that kind of inhibits any sense of creativity.....makes me wonder if I will ever enjoy a sense of freedom EVER. Well, nothing like getting born with a sun/Saturn conjunction, either.

Depression continues....but I am starting to ACT on some of this at last.

http://thestar.com.my/health/story.asp?file=/2005/6/19/health/11251744&sec=health

The metaphysics of healing

DISCOVERY magazine recently posed this question: “If an electron can be at two places at one time, why can’t we?” This is an exciting proposition, and it reminds me of a story my Pakcik told me about his experience in his younger days.

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A little something to show your Born Again friends....

Being Gay is Genetic

http://education.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,5217568-108233,00.html

June 23, 2005
Public Broadcasting Names New President
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Filed at 2:48 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Corporation for Public Broadcasting, already embroiled in controversy over allegations of a liberal-leaning bias in PBS programming, chose a former Republican Party co-chairman Thursday as its president and chief executive.

Patricia S. Harrison, the assistant secretary of state for educational and cultural affairs, was selected following three days of closed-door meetings by the corporation's board of directors.

Democratic lawmakers last week urged the CPB to put off choosing a new president, citing concerns about political interference by the corporation's chairman, Kenneth Y. Tomlinson. A Republican, Tomlinson, has been critical of public affairs programming at PBS, alleging that it's too liberal.

In a letter to Tomlinson, Sens. Byron Dorgan, D-N.D., Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., and others expressed dismay at the expected appointment of Harrison.

''We find it astonishing that Ms. Harrison, given her former prominence as a partisan political figure, would even be considered as a candidate for a job that demands that the occupant be non-political,'' the senators said in their letter.

The corporation, which was set up by Congress in 1967 to shield public broadcasting from political influence, funnels federal dollars to PBS, National Public Radio and hundreds of public radio and television stations.

In a statement, PBS said it looked forward to working with Harrison. It added: ''We have every expectation that she will execute her responsibilities with nonpartisan integrity.''

The problem wv, is that they have accepted that phycic ability not only can be but ts genetic, and they still call it a curse or punishment rather than a gift. We can all keep being sane and reality based though and until the truth becomes the most valuable commodity again.

PBS didn't care how many letters and e-mails they got.

Canada to approve same sex marriage next week..,

Shortcut to: http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_PrintFriendly&c=Article&cid=1119522976752&call_pageid=968332188492

More fun with Fiore...

http://www.sfgate.com/comics/fiore/

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3535.htm

STRATEGIC ENERGY POLICY CHALLENGES
FOR THE 21ST CENTURY

Report of an Independent Task Force
Sponsored by the
James A. Baker III Institute for Public Policy of Rice University
and the
Council on Foreign Relations

A turning point at home
The more Bush promises a "light at the end of the tunnel," the more the American public grows disillusioned with the war in Iraq.

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By Sidney Blumenthal

June 23, 2005 | On Tuesday, network newscasts reported that the Pentagon claimed that 47 enemy fighters had been killed in Operation Spear in western Iraq. Last month, the Pentagon declared 125 insurgents killed in Operation Matador near the Syrian border. "We don't do body counts on other people," Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld stated in November 2003.

On Jan. 29, the day before the Iraqi election, President Bush announced it was the "turning point." On May 2, 2003, he stood on the deck of the USS Abraham Lincoln behind a banner reading "Mission Accomplished," and the next day he proclaimed that the "mission is completed." Three weeks ago, on June 2, he declared, "Our mission is clear there, as well, and that is to train the Iraqis so they can do the fighting." Last week, on June 18, Bush retreated to his ultimate justification: that Iraq had been invaded because Saddam Hussein was involved with the terrorists behind the Sept. 11 attacks, a notion believed by a majority of those who voted for him in 2004: "We went to war because we were attacked."

On March 16, 2003, Vice President Dick Cheney had prophesied, "We will, in fact, be greeted as liberators ... I think it will go relatively quickly." Last month, on May 5, Cheney assured us that the insurgency in Iraq is in "the last throes." Yet on June 18, Gen. William Webster, the U.S. commander in Baghdad, said: "Certainly saying anything about 'breaking the back' or 'about to reach the end of the line' or those kinds of things do not apply to the insurgency at this point."

Now the war has reached a turning point -- not in Iraq but in the United States. Every announcement of progress heightens the rising tide of public disillusionment with the war. Every reference to Sept. 11 strains the administration's credibility. Every revelation of how "the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy" for war (as in the Downing Street memo) shatters even Republicans' previously implacable faith.

On Tuesday, the Gallup Poll reported that Bush's approval rating is collapsing along with support for the war -- which only 39 percent of Americans support. "The decline in support for the war is found among Republicans and independents, with little change among Democrats." (Since March, Republican support has fallen 11 points, to 70 percent.)

"They're starting to talk numbers again," Pat Lang remarked to me about the return of body counts. Lang is the Defense Intelligence Agency's former chief for the Middle East, South Asia and counterterrorism. "They were determined not to do that. But they can't provide a measurement to tell themselves they're doing well. As you know, it means nothing." Lang, who served as an intelligence officer in Vietnam, observes, "For almost all of [that] war, Vietnam was a better situation than Iraq. During the conduct of the war the security situation was far better than this."

The Iraqi elections, Lang adds, are "irrelevant to the outcome of the war because the people who voted were the people who stood to gain." Iran is the long-term winner, he says. "Iran intends to pull the [Shiite] state of Iraq into its orbit. You can be sure that Iranian Revolutionary Guards are honeycombed throughout Iraq's intelligence to make sure things don't get out of hand." About the "euphoria" after the elections, an idea especially echoed by the press corps, Lang simply says, "Laughable, comical, pathetic."

Bush's Iraq syndrome is a reinvention of Lyndon Johnson's Vietnam syndrome. In December 1967, LBJ's national security advisor, Walt Rostow, famously declared about the Viet Cong and North Vietnamese: "Their casualties are going up at a rate they cannot sustain ... I see light at the end of the tunnel." The official invitation to that year's New Year's Eve party at the U.S. Embassy in Saigon read: "Come see the light at the end of the tunnel." The Tet offensive struck a month later.

"Even when what happened was really more positive than it seemed to be -- the Tet offensive in 1968 was a military disaster for the Viet Cong and North Vietnamese army -- no one believed because there was no light at the end of tunnel," Harry McPherson, who was President Johnson's White House counsel, told me. For a modern instance, McPherson cited the statement this week by Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb.: "The White House is completely disconnected from reality. It's like they're just making it up as they go along. The reality is that we're losing in Iraq."

Bush's "light at the end of the tunnel" vision can only accelerate the cycle of disillusionment. His instinctive triumphalism inevitably has a counterproductive effect. His refusal to insist on responsibility for blunders -- instead rewarding and honoring their perpetrators -- enshrines impunity and hubris. His doctrine of presidential infallibility, the election being his only "moment of accountability," can no longer be sustained by reference to Sept. 11. His defense of the abuse and torture of detainees at Guantánamo and other prisons in violation of laws formerly upheld by the United States blots out his attempts to explain the purity of his motives.

In Graham Greene's 1955 novel on the wages of naive arrogance in Vietnam, "The Quiet American," world-weary British journalist Fowler remarks to Pyle, the U.S. agent with the best of intentions: "Oh, I know your motives are good, they always are ... I wish sometimes you had a few bad motives, you might understand a little more about human beings. And that applies to your country too, Pyle."

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About the writer
Sidney Blumenthal, a former assistant and senior advisor to President Clinton and the author

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=873913

SACRAMENTO, Calif. Jun 23, 2005 — Federal drug agents launched a wide-ranging crackdown on medical marijuana providers in northern California, raiding pot clubs, homes and businesses in San Francisco and arresting a husband and wife in Sacramento.

Officials with the Drug Enforcement Administration and U.S. attorney's office would not say how many people were arrested or give other details, pending a news conference Thursday.

An attorney for the Sacramento couple said he believed Wednesday's arrests and sweep may have been prompted by the U.S. Supreme Court's medical marijuana ruling two weeks ago. The high court said federal law prohibiting the sale and distribution of narcotics supersedes state medical marijuana laws.

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Those Canadians, they are so cool!

Thank you, too, Marcia. These encouraging words are a godsend for me.

Jo, Saturn in Leo does not nesessarily restrict creativity. It probably effects the relationship with the audience more than creative output.

Charlie Chaplin had Saturn in Leo.

Saturn in Leo can do quite the opposite in that the person puts out a vast amount of work trying to reach perfection. The standards are extremely high.
That's how it's worked for me. I had no parental discipline in my early life and I had a life-long love relationship until my Leo died. I have a huge body of work as a musician and songwriter. I created an electronic music system that is out of this world. The Saturn probably influenced the fact that I could work twelve hours at a stretch for years working on one thing. I worked for seven years straight creating my synthesizer sounds and drum machine patterns. People are astounded at the sounds that come out.

The problem comes in the validation with Saturn. There is a fear of embarrassment with other people and that I will be judged harshly. So there is restriction in the expression around other people.

When Saturn was in Leo last time around, I was performing and was written up in the paper for the first time.

James Taylor also has a Saturn in Leo. I know him personally and he also has had a huge creative output.

So it it varies from person to person.
The reason I think Saturn in Leo will unleash creativity is because of the trine to Pluto in Sag and the conjunction to the USA North Node. Also the opposition to Neptune.

The blogosphere is where the excitement is in this country now. It is new and finding its power. People are having a good time expressing themselves and more and more people want to be a part of this new movement. It's really not new. It's exactly like the teletype used in business when I was a child. People loved it. The difference now is that the teletype I believe was one on one, whereas the Internet blogosphere is everyone at once. A 24 hour meeting place. I can't see this being cut off at this point.

It's possible that Saturn will end the enjoyment, but, of course, I believe it will heighten it, make it better, and increase its legitimacy. I feel that the environmental restriction and pressure are going to fuel creative release.

I expect to see some ultra fine writing during this time. People are getting so primed. The output thus far has been wild and uncontrolled so I think Saturn will organize it and validate the really good articulation that emerges. Peole are starting to shine knowing that there is an immediate vast audience for their expression of self.
Saturn just might control it without undue restriction. Hopefully it will restrict the bad writing, extremely foul language, gratuitous hate, and things like that.

And it should reward the accomplished and worthwhile verbal output.

And the evil rethugs are NOT cool...
State's Hospital Funding Revamped
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Schwarzenegger's pact with U.S. would shift 554,000 elderly, blind and disabled to HMOs. Critics say it would hurt safety-net facilities.

By Jordan Rau and Charles Ornstein
Times Staff Writers

June 23 2005

SACRAMENTO — Half a million elderly, blind and disabled Californians now enrolled in Medi-Cal — including all of those in Los Angeles County — would be shifted into managed care as part of a complex deal with the federal government, the Schwarzenegger administration announced Wednesday.

The complete article can be viewed at:
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-health23jun23,1,4350679.story?coll=la-headlines-california

A tiny bit more on Saturn in Leo.

Liz Greene has one of the best discussions of Saturn in Leo I've found in her Saturn book.

For me,the greatest sorrow and joy I feel in life are around this issue. The Saturn makes me feel the tragedy of trying to bring artistic ideals into mnifestation and the disappointment that often results. Yet I persist.

The thing that makes me cry the most is artistic longing. When I walk into an empty theater I feel the desire for everything I want in life. All the possibility of human self expression and the witnessing of this magnificent act by an audience. I once gave a spontaneous performance in an empty amphitheater to one person. He talked about that moment for the rest of his life.

There is so much to Saturn.

jm, how beautiful! What did you perform?

((((judi))))

Wouldn't all of the Saturn in Leo stuff depend upon where Leo is in the chart, what is aspecting the planets, and whatever planets are in the house? Saturn in Leo may pass by 11/12ths of the population without a murmur....as for worrying about what people think of you.....that probably is a Leo quality whether Saturn is there or not. My daughter has Saturn in Taurus conj. her midheaven, but Leo rising with Leo sun 2 degrees away....that seems to be ALL she worries about!

Yet I have not worried about it, in fact, I often do stuff which I know WILL affect how people see me, good or bad depending on my mood....

It would be interesting to figure out if music is ruled by the same creative signature of planets that art is, or writing....I don't think of great music being writtten starting in 1976....or 1947 for that matter, although I sure there must have been some...perhaps by people born in those years?

One this IS true...people with a Saturn signature or a Saturn transit work damn hard at what they are doing.

so, the new toture videos are coming out, no wonder the neocons are so frantic- didn't Nancy say the 25th of June was a biggie?

OH BOY...the NC sheet is hitting de fan...
Republican candidate calls Bush Admin 'Nazis,' quits party

RAW STORY

The following is excerpted from the Lincoln Tribune. Their servers went down when we linked to it directly. The North Carolina Supreme Court Justice candidate's personal website is available here.

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Cary, NC - A candidate for North Carolina Chief Justice of the North Carolina Supreme Court has announced on her campaign's blog that she is leaving the Republican Party and denounced the Bush administration's policy on troop withdrawal from Iraq. Rachel Lea Hunter, a Republican and a candidate for Chief Justice, likens Bush’s administration to the “Nazis” and says that all who disagree with the administration are being branded as “traitors”.

Hunter is an attorney in Durham, NC with the firm of Browne, Flebotte, Wilson, Horn & Webb. Hunter’s web page says she offers pre-paid legal services. Hunter ran unsuccessfully in 2004 for the North Carolina Appeals Court. She recently announced her intent to run for the Supreme Court.
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In her statement, Hunter expresses anger at former Charlotte Mayor Richard Vinroot for unsubscribing to her campaign’s email list. Hunter, who is a former volunteer for Vinroot’s gubernatorial campaign, was angry that Vinroot asked to unsubscribe to her campaign’s email list after an announcement that she was recovering from a recent surgery.

Hunter continues her assault on other elected Republicans as well as party leaders. The letter launches criticisms at NCGOP Chairman, Ferrell Blount, for a lawsuit that was brought against the NC Republican party for an illegal contribution it received from a national group. The NC party agreed to pay a $10,000 fine and return the money. The GOP however never spent the money donated because of questions as to whether it was legal.

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On her blog, she declared:

"Republican dirty tricks are not confined to just me any more. I also saw that Congressman Jones made the news by calling for a withdrawal of our troops. Whatever one may think about the war, one should ask when the mission will be over and when the troops can come home. Are we going to stay indefinitely? While it is nice that we are building Iraq, what about America? And what about the cost? Why do the Americans have to foot the bill when we can ill afford it? These are all legitimate questions to ask. Congressman Jones did nothing more than make a proposal to start pulling out.

"But it seems that the administration in Washington will brook no criticism of its policies. So it has sent out its dutiful attack dogs to shoot the messenger. What have we heard? That Walter Jones is a member of the lunatic fringe. That Walter Jones should resign. Its the same stuff that COPAM pulled on me, only this time its orchestrated by those in Washington instead of those in Raleigh.

"What I find disturbing is that we are criticized for nothing more than the exercise of our Constitutional rights. Those who disagree with any aspect of the administration are branded as traitors and must be silenced. I thought the previous administration was bad because of the amorality. This is far worse.

"There is a famous poem about the Nazis of Germany - first they came for one group, then another, but the writer did not speak up. And then they came for the writer and there was no one left to speak up. The administration is acting like the Nazis. I will not be quiet. I agree with Congressman Jones that we should ask the administration the tough questions and that we should begin to withdraw."

An Ill Wind is Blowing
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/objects/pages/PrintArticleEn.jhtml?itemNo=590231

jm....one is born to be a performer/artist/writer/musician....I think it exists outside of time and space or astrology. You have that, it appears.

One of the most interesting performers/artists/writers/musicians I know of is Joni Mitchell. She is 4 months younger than I am, to the day (as is Sam Shepard - all of us 1943) and many of the icons of the 60's music revolution were born in the 1940's. Joni has that drive, which I always envied, of integrity of her own vision, whether writing, singing or painting or performing. I think it is interesting that I was born with Saturn conj the sun and took too many roads which were paved with responsibility around motherhood, and Joni chose not to. We have ended up in the same space....both grandmothers....it sort of makes me see what I could have done and didn't....but you don't know that at the time...it is a real life lesson for both sides of the coin (we were working out the opposite sides of the coin, I always felt. She used her experience and wrote about her pain....or joy. She is a real magician. And an incredible musician.

Off topic - sort of. Slipped into a new tax bill just passed in New Zealand without almost no discussion by the public:

"The changes include the introduction of a six-year tax exemption on income from non-resident drilling rigs and seismic ships involved in exploration for petroleum in New Zealand, as part of a package of measures to boost gas exploration.

Cheney/Bush cartel - come on down ......

JM,

Saturn restricts, but I never said it kills... the point I'm trying for here is that I personally don't think Saturn in Leo will be a fun time... nor will creativity abound as it might with another planet in Leo... and mundanely, Claudia D. has suggested that tSaturn is more the "Enforcer" than the karma-bringing energy in personal charts.

And in personal charts, it certainly depends on the houses and transits as to the creative level of the native, and I might add, the WILL and passion of the native.

But we are concerned with Mundane Astrology on this website, and while I don't concur with the author of the link I posted above that the Dictator and the Brownshirts will arrive in September, neither do I believe tSaturn's sojourn into Leo will be a fun-trip for Americans. As for the internet, it is evolving and who knows where it will go? But there is evidence of efforts underway to curtail it's growth and popularity on this very thread.

I sincerely apologize for bringing up the matter now that I discover you have nSaturn in Leo. I never meant to imply that there could be NO creativity or no creative natives with this aspect. I was speaking of the mundane, and the other affirming aspects in the Solstice Chart and others that Sally focused on above. Please know that I wholeheartedly accept that nSaturn in Leo does not negate creativity in a native. You, yourself are affirmation of that, with your lilting phrases and musical analysis of events. But you indicate that you have applied hard work to your art, your music. Americans as a collective know very little about hard work... As others have indicated I'm not sure they will be able to apply frugality or elbow grease to their lifestyle.

The really wonderful thing about this site as opposed to others is that we can have a difference of opinion, we can allow each other the space for that view. I honor your perspective, goodness knows it is much more positive than mine! Namaste

Pat, the amazing thing is that I have no idea what I performed. I made it up and don't know where it came from. I asked him to tell me, and he couldn't. It was all about my booming voice, stage presence, and body language. Something just hit me and I was a divine actress. The content was completely insignificant. It was the uninhibited expression of me. It was an unforgettable moment.

Judi, yes, it depends on all placements.

Great music and art are influenced by different factors. Venus, Neptune, Mars for percussion, Mecury for lyrics, etc. Leo influences the stage presentation. The search for attention and admiration. Saturn in Leo does not necessarily make the arts flourish. It depends on the times.

One thing to keep in mind is that Saturn ruled over a Renaissance in mythology. All human expression flourished and was at its finest.

I think, Judi, that Saturn in Leo in your tenth is a fantastic opportunity. One reason for your depression could be your Mars in Aries. I couldn't imagine for a million years having one. It is so intense. And now you are having a Mars return and a start of a new action cycle. Sometimes there is depression at the end of one. And it is squaring all the Capricorn, so serios issues are being contemplated and the opportunity to start afresh has come.

I've seen this over and over with the fire element. Strong fire(and there is nothing stronger than Mars in Aries), can spin out so far that it crashes and burns when it comes back to earth. So there can be moments of weakness and depression when that happens. I get it all the time, and it is really a good thing to balance all the output and expessiveness of fire.
But you could definitely ride this new Mars cycle. And not worry about depression as long as it comes and goes.

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Jo, it remains to be seen.

That's the fun part. The surprise element. The unpredictability.

I saw that about Harrison being named head of CPB just before leaving work and was upset/depressed about it all the way home. Sat down here to read AW for comfort.

Sometimes I get this sneaky feeling--if I like NPR coverage, does that mean it IS biased? Noonan said PBS/NPR are biased like the ocean is wet. I start to believe them--I just want NPR to be biased in favor of my side? Which is sickening because I KNOW what they ARE. Then I read your post, Judi GEm, about the NC politician, and it helps me a lot. The Repugs try to silence whoever disagrees with them. The facts disagree with them? Silence the facts. That's what makes them Nazis.

I was at a party when an old Repug was saying how biased NPR is. "Every word Garrison Keillor says is political" (It is? It's been a while since I listened to him--Has he changed?)I didn't go after that man because I'm afraid I can't control my mouth, and didn't want to mess up this occasion for the honored guest. Later I thought of what I could have said--Wm. F. Buckley on PBS for 30 years, the Wall Street Journal show, Moyers had conservatibes on his show and had good exchanges with them (they weren't bullied and yelled at like the opposite side is on Faux), etc.

Still, I need some help here. Can I get some ammunition for my little internal quagmire?

jm, that sounds just wonderful! There are so many possibilities to the event. Just lovely jm.

Saturn in Leo

http://www.horoscope-x-files.com/horoscope/leo-saturn.htm
http://www.universalastrology.com.au/article12.htm

Marcia, I have been known to ask "What part of peace and properity did you dislike?".

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/062305A.shtml

Exponential Enrons Ahead

One of the least-discussed provisions in the Bush energy bill that has passed the House and is now fast-tracked in the Senate is PUHCA repeal. "Pooka repeal," you say, "what's that?"

The Public Utilities Holding Company Act (PUHCA) is a cornerstone New Deal financial reform signed into law in 1935. It was the biggest battle in FDR's first term. Utilities had become cash cows for power moguls who created complex holding company pyramids for milking ultra-reliable ratepayer income to feed speculative investments. The crash of 1929 knocked these structures flat and took down millions of small investors who had been sold on the reliability of utilities as an investment.

Does any of that sound familiar?

Both the House and Senate versions of the energy bill now contain the PUHCA repeal provision. At the insistence of Democrats, the Senate added in some extra oversight by FERC (Federal Energy Regulatory Commission), but it is a thin reed compared to PUHCA.

Supporters of PUHCA point out that for 50 years, we have had reliable, cheap electric power that has allowed strong economic growth, and that no PUHCA-regulated energy holding company has ever gone bankrupt. Furthermore, it was partial PUHCA repeals in the 1990s that opened the door to Enron, Westar and other energy debacles. To repeal PUHCA now is equivalent to blowing up the barn after the horses have escaped, never mind shutting the barn door.

PUHCA subjects utility finances and operations to strict regulation by the states and federal government. Most importantly, it restricts ownership of utilities to public or private entities that are in the business of producing power, and keeps speculators out. Replacing this kind of control with mere oversight is a joke. It is like trying to rebuild the barn with splinters.

Lynn Hargis is an attorney with a long professional career in power generation, including ten years at FERC. For the past two years, she has held a volunteer position at Public Citizen educating the public about the perils of PUHCA repeal. She says that "it is clearly impossible for a state (or even federal) utility commission, with its limited staff, to review, much less understand and control, the books and records of a huge conglomerate ..." Once PUHCA is gone, she predicts, "there will be a white-hot fury of buying and selling utilities and utility assets - it will be a revival of the 1920s, when three huge companies owned half of all utilities."

There has been a lot of media focus on the $18 billion in tax incentives contained in the Senate energy bill, but almost nothing about PUHCA repeal, even though the latter is by far the greatest prize: according to Lynn Hargis the value of all regulated utilities exceeds one trillion dollars.

Hargis says there will be so much money chasing these utilities that even the venerable public-owned and municipal-owned utilities (PUDs and MUDs) won't be able to hold out.

And get ready to start paying your power bill to Halliburton because some of the companies best positioned to take advantage of this deregulation are oil companies: "The top five oil companies now control 50 percent of US oil production. If they also controlled public utilities, they would be too powerful for any government to regulate," said Hargis.

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A reminder of how we got into this mess...

a column from ha'aratz last April...

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/objects/pages/PrintArticleEn.jhtml?itemNo=280279

Jo, I feel like thanking you for getting me to see the other side. My optimism is not grounded in the reality around me. It is innate in my character and is not ever influenced by events. So it remains no matter what transpires much to the chagrin of others. I've been rejected from almost all the other sites because of it. People need to prepare for adversity with some degree of pessismism and I don't want to obliterate that. Just offer a glimmer of hopeful possibility.

One thing I am changing is this:

I agree with you, Jo, and many others about the sorry state of the American people. I have been critical of society all my life. But now I feel like I want to support their growth and love them anyway as my fellow countrymen. I love this country and I came out of hiding to help protect it. I have to admit that my fondness for the public is growing as I get to know the individuals better on the Internet. I am frankly amazed at the talent and intelligence I am encountering. If I want my country to improve, I've got to stop being so negative about others, control my resentment, try to understand people as best I can while recognizing the hopeless cases. I see this extreme phase as a bridge to something undefined as yet.

I am fully aware of the problems in mass behavior but I refuse to deny the possibility that this society can do better.

JM....I keep thinking of the sorry state of the american SHEEPLE....that energy post said it all. the only way the south americans were able to defeat the big energy grabs was the old peasants with pitchforks. this has disaster written all over it.

Are we going to have to vote OUT all dems who don't speak up?

Judi,

I just read your post on Joni Mitchell and I've got goose bumps. She is the one and only female musician in my time that I think really has it. The outstanding talent that I seek. I have studied her endlessly. You must see her video that explains why she rejected motherhood for the life of an artist. It has to do with her grandmother who was also talented and never developed it. It haunted Joni, and she decided to fulfill the destiny. I can't remember the title of the video, but I will get it for you. It has music and interviews. One of her most amazing somgs is on it..."Sex Kills". Incredible.

Judi,

Did you check out the Dems response to Karl Rove's statement yesterday? They are speaking up. I'm cheering them on. I know they can do it. And yes, we'll vote those in who have a voice.

The pattern is very clear in what the Rethugs are trying to do. They are trying to finally take down FDR. They are succeeding in many ways, in an all out assault....treating the dems as the 'insurgents'....repugnant is too good a word to waste on these aliens.

they want to rule the world, and they will stop at nothing to do it...lie, cheat, steal, destroy reputations and lives, they stop at nothing.

what is it going to take to win? I would think a take over by interested parties of our very own government. That is still what I see as their ultimate goal.

JM...yes, pretty familiar with the video of Joni, my ex turned me on to it....we lived in LA ....big fans of hers, and of course, he is a music crazed person.

Peggy Lee ALSO had a grandmother who influenced her that way, and she was able to escape North Dakota because of that vision...another of my favorite female vocalists in terms of visible soul!

jm....I was a single mother who decided to go ahead and KEEP my daughter....Joni and I made pivotally different decisions....I would argue that her talent was so prodigious that she couldn't have done otherwise! (she wrote about it in a song I cannot remember the name of, but was one of my favorites...only recently did I 'get' she was writing about giving up her daughter'. That was a brave decision....

Here's an interesting thing....the middle 40's had Saturn in Gemini (seems to show up in times of war)...bringing lifelong learning as a goal to its natives....and in communications! Joni is actually 5 months younger, not 4....she's a Scorpio.

Yes, and Joni is a perfect example of how Saturn in Gemini can work. Her mastery of words. Her endless pursuit of the right combinations. Her chain smoking which cuts off her breath and the vocal expression of these words. So there is the mixture of tremendous skill, but fear and restriction around the presentation. But I think in the end, Saturn makes for greatness.

I just read Rachel Lea Hunter (the NC judge who resigned from the rethug party) homepage
http://www.rachelforcourt.com/latestnews/latestnews10.html

boy....she certainly no longer fits the rethug party!

And speaking of Gemini,Pluto is finishing up with our USA Mars in Gemini and I think we are experiencing everyone speaking up. The GOP is hysterical. the Dems are getting lively, and the people are going nuts on the Internet. It's better than the eerie silence that has pervaded these past years. The stunned silence. The floodgate is open and maybe soon it will settle down and become a nice flowing river.

Later....

Wow. I have the same two favorite singers! It is so strange to see them grouped together here from the keypad of anotoher person. I know the song you're thinking of, but I don't remember the name of it either.

I think the song is "Little Green".

It starts, "Born with the Moon in Cancer". I collapsed with pleasure right there.

Robert Frisk - We Shelter the Myth that Progress
is Being Made....

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article9247.htm

Here's Joni's homepage...

http://www.jonimitchell.com/Frames1.html

Thanks wv. You are a champ. A gentleman and a scholar.

From Claudia's website:

"June 22, 2005: Stick up your thumb and hold it at arm's length. It doesn't seem very big, does it? But it is, big enough to hide three planets. This weekend Mercury, Venus and Saturn are going to crowd together in a patch of sky no bigger than your thumb. Astronomers call it a "conjunction" and it's going to be spectacular." ... The show begins on Saturday evening, June 25th. Step outside and look west toward the glow of the setting sun. Venus appears first, a bright point of light not far above the horizon. As the sky darkens, Saturn and Mercury pop into view. The three planets form a eye-catching triangle about 1.5o long, easily hidden by your thumb...."

Check out NASA to learn how YOU can see the sky show at home this weekend! -- Starcats

Jo, wouldn't this be a perfect evening for cosmic cocktails?

Gotta go... see youse guys in a bit.

jm

je vous remerci

Blix says that Iran is years away to create an atomic bomb.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050623/ap_on_re_eu/sweden_blix_iran

spin on the current events by extraordinaire foire

http://www.markfiore.com/animation/rewrite.html

Sally,

Interesting analysis on electing common man Carter
and Truman in 76 and 48. Extrapolating that graph,
and the coming economic BUST, very strong possibility that even the rotten red cons here will be forced to elect a common man in 2008. That
being the case, I don't think fritz,Hillary or Kerry(if he chooses to run again)or Edwards have
a chance. Currently the person coming close to a
common man, I think, is McCain in 2008, unless an
unknown(like Carter'76) puts his hand UP!

I love Fiore!

http://dahrjamailiraq.com/weblog/archives/dispatches/000256.php#more

Censorship

At long last, the culminating session of the World Tribunal on Iraq is upon us. As a witness providing testimony, like the other witnesses I’m being interviewed by many outlets. Today, one of them was by reporters for one of the larger newspapers in Turkey, the Yeni Safak Newspaper.

I’ll leave the reporters nameless, for reasons you’ll soon see.

The newspaper has been translating various articles of mine into Turkish and running them, particularly those concerning the most recent Fallujah massacre. The report who was interviewing me today told me that the former American consulate here, Eric Edelman, asked the Prime Minister of Turkey to pressure his paper to not run so many of my stories.

“Why did he do this,” I asked him.

“Edelman said it was the wrong news,” he told me with a smile.

Turns out Edelman also asked that articles by Robert Fisk and Naomi Klein not be run so often in Yeni Safak either.

More...

Yes JM, it would be... your cosmic cocktails are the best. Maybe we should have an a-world party Saturday night with the spectacular conjunction and the 'skyworks' --- you could pull out some Joni Mitchell and Peggy Lee records, maybe add a little Billie Holiday and Julie Christy? Sounds dreamy, huh! We could make plans tonight while we enjoy one of your cocktails, or maybe two! It's been a long day, these two grandboys have more energy than this old grandma can muster up...

Sen Carl Levin (D) is asking questions about Feith

Senator May Block Successor to Defense Policy Chief Feith

By Bradley Graham
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, June 23, 2005; Page A25

The senior Democrat on the Senate Armed Services Committee has warned the Pentagon that he may block the nomination of a new defense policy chief unless documents involving the departing policy head -- Douglas J. Feith -- are turned over for review.

The action by Sen. Carl M. Levin (D-Mich.) threatens to hold up another important presidential appointment as lawmakers remain deadlocked with the Bush administration over the nomination of John R. Bolton as ambassador to the United Nations. That dispute, too, involves Democratic requests for documents the White House has refused to surrender.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/22/AR2005062201989.html

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here's a good site for info on fallen troops and wounded so far in Iraq

http://antiwar.com/casualties/

I've been pondering this for a LONG time. cons here chastize liberals day in and day out from talk shows to the senate floor. But these same cons LIKE foreign LIBERALS to the MAX. Ask any con
and will say they want liberals to govern Iran, Iraq, NKorea, Burma, China, Russia, All the East
European and former USSR states, all African countries, all Middle Eastern and Islamic countries. So thesse cons LOVE liberals - only they should be foreigners!

sorry, off topic- Howard Dean's on the Daily Show tonight :)

Raj....please PLEASE disabuse yourself of the idea that McCain is a common man.....that is laughable, he is a (and has been) the bought and paid for 'boy' of any rich powerbroker in Arizona....he was one of Keating's boys....besides, no republican has ever been a common man! He is a disgrace and has bent over for the very people who have done him the most harm...in his own party..

hey, thanks all for the connections to Joni Mitchell and 'little green'...born with the moon in cancer. Her daughter was, and so was mine...

PS....big articles in the paper on the proposed pbs cuts....will wipe out pbs in rural areas.....at the same time, a really funny article on SF public access tv station channel 29 (which will disappear with those cuts also)....on 3 women who put together a show on their own which has become a cult hit and even induced those Xians to cry that it is porn....when it is 2 of the 3 women lying naked in bed discussing a 30 year old sci fi novel....you'll enjoy this read!

fantasy bedtime hour: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/06/23/DDGETDCGPN1.DTL

judi, I think they kept the funing and accepted the new neocon President. Terrible sacrifice.

http://www.tomdispatch.com/index.mhtml?emx=x&pid=1338

Tomgram: Nick Turse on Iraq as a weapons lab

For the neocons of this administration, as a friend said to me recently, Iraq was to be a laboratory that would reveal the face of imperial America. It was there that we would finally take up our rightful role as the new Rome. Fierce as Saddam Hussein's regime was to its own people, by 2003 it was a relative pushover for the greatest military power on this or any other imaginable planet. After the Iran-Iraq War, Gulf War I, the endless bombings in the no-fly zones, and over a decade of harsh sanctions, Iraq's military was a shadow of its former self by the time the U.S. invaded.

More...

I can't help but join in and say that I have been a huge Joni fan since age 17 when I listened over & over to her album "Blue" (which included the song, "Little Green"), the album that was her tribute to James Taylor and their child. In fact, I know all the lyrics ("A Case of You") and have been going around singing them for years (wish I could really sing). What a talent! I'm not surprised to hear that all of us "blue" aura'd people here have Joni in common.

Judi Gemini -

To echo your comments on McCain, the senator made his career on his story of detainment and torture in Vietnam. Then he goes on to vote for Alberto Gonzales, made famous for his hard work on the torture memos. McCain should have known better.

What a hypocrite!!!

This Solstice/full moon hit me pretty hard. Major throat infection/purgings to the core-

I have been off work for a while --been spending my time switching between CNN and the CBC..it has been a schizophrenic experience.

Here, north of the 49th, I live in a different world.

The CBC (virtually no ads) has been focussing on: Live 8, African debt relief, Native aboriginal issues, the Air India disaster, the spraying of Agent Orange in Gagetown, NB.

Lots of holding the government to account.

The Gomery Inquiry(corruption) has retired and will bring its findings forward later.
The government has survived and looks like the budget and the Gay Marriage bills will get passed.

This minority government appears to me to have been a blessing.

I am picking up a type of humility from the government members at this time. There is a kind of listening to the People and a seeming willingness to please and work for them.

The contrast to CNN is shocking.

Someone, once said (paraphrased), "let the dark play out it's drama, the real world will grow up around them and crowd them out"
To me that is what is happening.

They have done us a favor. The Neocons, et al, are like the Keystone Cops, chasing their tails with one foot nailed to the floor-- have allowed the rest of the world to re-organize themselves around them.

I used to believe that the US was a bastion of democracy because they yelled it so loudly--now I know it is not true.

Canada allows corporations to contribute a maximum of $1000.00 to a political party, an individual can contribute up to $5000.00.
Canada is the only G8 country, I believe, that has forgiven African debt. and it is also the only G8 country that has been in surplus the past year.

Now if our rambunctious neighbour to the South would just take a pill and chill a bit, perhaps we could also get our marijauna legalized along with prostitution.

Trudy

Well now Sally that one really gives me a shudder and a shake. I've been more than a bit apprehensive for the last several months over this summer's travel plans, especially after reading the numerous articles by Seymour Hersch, Scott Ritter and others about Bushco's plans to attack Iran mid-June.

But then there are the astrological factors.
My fiancee and her daughter left for Paris on the day Uranus stationed. While there Uranus will cross her Descendant and Pluto will finish its conjunction of her Venus while it sits on my progressed Descendant. According to astrodienst astrocartography she gets Pluto conjunct Sun in Paris. I sure wasn't going to tell her not to go to Paris.

Meanwhile I had to take a long flight the day after the Uranus station bound for my parents 50th anniversary. They are both getting Saturn conjunct Pluto. Uranus stationed opposite my Mercury, which I understand does not exactly favor travel.

Now this weekend we will be driving just about the whole length of the New Madrid fault!

This article was posted at DU. Big ground crack in Texas - mother earth is doing something with the center of the country. http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/usworld/news-article.aspx?storyid=39373

Did not link to the DU thread, but there are all kinds of humorous posts about Tex-Ass being the butt crack of the US.

Guess you're all asleep on your side of the world. Here is a cool meditative short movie. Enjoy. http://www.13moon.com/flash_images.htm

"Gay is genetic"... don't matter if it is or isn't. Only the "Big Three" patriarchal religions are concerned with stickin' their snouts into other people's crotches. Religion should be concerned with loving works/play with fellow beings... not somebody else's sex life. Period.

Ha ha. You gotta way with words, Joanna.
Yup. Patriarchal snouts and people's crotches are a match made in heaven.

http://www.bushsamerica.com/counting/

Mike Malloy on Air America sent this one out. Move curser over the individual flags...I did that and nothing happened, but it is possible the site is not set up for Mac....

That fat turd Scott McClelland was really busy today spinning crap over the bigger fat turd Rove's insanity....but the best sound bite of all was the Kennedy reading of the screwups of Rumsfield and then his asking why he hasn't resigned. Rummy said it is because bushbaby won't accept his resignation. rummy should be in prison for the rest of his life for the evil of the last 30 years he's been in government....along with the other neos AND Kissinger, Negroponte and Porter Goss. The American Nazis..

Did you all know that part of the 'No Child Left Behind" act has a provision in which the US military has access to all information which they track on your sons and daughters from grade school on up....and if the schools refuse to release the information they will lose federal funding. This is Nazism/fascism in action.

No wonder people are homeschooling...!

I heard this fellow Philip call into Mike Malloy and give his web site....http://www.clix.to/dcontrol

He mentioned the Byers boys deaths...more fall out from the immoral war. Also some horrendous pictures of us soldiers and dead Iraqi teenagers....

Oh! Ugh! Gag!!!! Scott McClelland.

Excuse me while I go get my Pepto Dismal.

From jm's dictionary:

Karl Rove: an overstuffed, blubbery, no necked, gag inducing bag of purple pink crap with an undetermined half life.

The man who would be President -- on Karl Rove

"Mr. President, None of us will ever forget the hours after September 11th, the calls to our families, the evacuations, the images on television -- and then the remarkable response of the American people as we came together as one to answer the attack against our homeland.

We drew strength when our firefighters ran up the stairs and risked their lives, so that others might live. When rescuers rushed into smoke and fire at the Pentagon. When the men and women of Flight 93 sacrificed themselves to save our nation's Capitol. When flags were hanging from front porches all across America, and strangers became friends. It brought out the best in all of us.

That spirit of our country should never be reduced to a cheap and divisive political applause line from anyone who speaks for the President of the United States. I am proud that after September 11th all our people rallied to President Bush's call for unity to meet the danger. There were no Democrats. There were no Republicans. There were only Americans. That's why is hard to believe that last night the most senior advisor to the President of the United States is twisting those days of unity to divide us, that rather than focusing attention on finding Osama Bin Laden and smashing Al Qaeda, he is instead challenging the patriotism of Americans every bit as committed to fighting terror as he is.

For Karl Rove to equate Democratic policy on terror to "indictments" and "therapy" is an outrageous attempt to divide the nation at just the moment we must be unified. Just days after 9/11 the Senate voted 98-0 and the House voted 420-1 to authorize President Bush to use "all necessary and appropriate force" against terror. After the bipartisan vote, President Bush said, I quote: "I am gratified that the Congress has united so powerfully by taking this action. It sends a clear message - our people are together, and we will prevail."

Karl Rove also said last night, quote: "No more needs to be said about the motives of liberals."

Well, I think a lot more needs to be said about Karl Rove's motives, because they're not the people's motives, and if the President really believed his own words of unity, then he should fire Karl Rove. If the President of the United States knows the meaning of his own words, he should listen to the plea of Kristen Breitweiser, who lost her husband when the Twin Towers came crashing down: she said, "if you're going to use 9/11, use it to make this nation safer than it was on 9/11.

And that's not being done. If you're going to use 9/11, if you're going to be impassioned about the lives lost on 9/11, then do so by making us safer."

Karl Rove doesn't owe me an apology, he doesn't owe Democrats an apology, he owes her an apology -- he owes an apology to every one of those families who paid the ultimate price on September 11th.

Millions of Americans across our country are questioning whether this Administration is making us safe. Kristen Breitweiser wants to tell her daughter that she'll grow up in a country safer than on the day her father was taken from her.

Mothers and fathers spend sleepless nights worrying about sons and daughters in humvees in Iraq that aren't protected. They're asking Washington for honesty and results and leadership, not political division.

Before Karl Rove delivers another political assault, he needs to think about those families. The 9-11 Commission has given us a path to follow, endorsed by Democrats, Republicans, and the 9-11 families. Implement the recommendations of that commission. We shouldn't be letting ninety-five percent of container ships come into our ports without ever being physically inspected. We shouldn't be leaving our nuclear and chemical plants without enough protection.

Until they've done the work of making America safe, don't dare question the patriotism of Americans who offer a better direction. Before wrapping themselves in the memory of September 11th, and shutting their eyes and ears to the truth, they should remember what America is really all about -- that leadership isn't insult or intimidation, it's the strength of making America safe -- they should remember what their responsibility is to every American -- and start to do the work of living up to it."

-- Sen. John F. Kerry

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Advance_Kerry_blasts_Rove_for_outrageous_line_on__0623.html

Oh, oh, oh Neo B. I've been dancing on clouds all day partly because of this and was going to post it here but didn't. Yes, yes, yes!

This is going to be the downfall. This administration's obvious failure to fulfill its promise and make us safe. Now the Democrats can move in with great strategy and tear this thing down.

I've got some theories I'd like to discuss with you later.

Good speech. Excellent.

Am I missing something here or have the liberal justices lost their minds? Majority has ruled that condemnation of someone's house for private development fits into the public use condemnation catagory if it is for economic development!
For once I agree with the conservatives on this -
Why should an 80year old lady who does not want to leave her house be forced to move so that a shopping center can be built! Unfortunately I see this being misused in the future
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/23/politics/23wire-scotus.html?hp&ex=1119585600&en=5036788eb4cc9d17&ei=5094&partner=homepage

wv,

Je comprend.

Jo,

I'll be here, jigger in hand, Saturday night, 9:45, for the planet watching party.

I just came across this - no doubt it has been seen before by you expert astrologers - but I had never heard of Daddy Bush's 9/11/90 speech. The connection is just toooo wierd, and the astro aspects mentioned, disturbing.

http://www.urania.info/story/2003/3/4/2357/11654
scroll down the page to read about the speech.

Fire and Ice
I am sure all of you have seen it in the lab, but it was on the English channel here yesterday.
A moleule of natural gas frozen under pressure and attached to molecules of water ice will burn with fire and release water and energy. If pressure is released from the molecule it will separate into regular water and natural gas.
But what I learned was that China has more of the frozen natural gas on land than anyone and also has some expectaion that that the area of the South China Sea affected by the tsumani has even greater amounts below the fault.
Apparently there is more of this stuff in China than anywhere and more than all the coal. oil and regular natural gas on earth.
This would certainly be a blessing for the people who need more electricity and it supposedly burns a little cleaner than regular natural gas which should be a blessing for everyone.
I wonder if they will have enough to sell it to those who wasted all their oil.
The ice is guite fuzzy like fur.

There appear to be only a few engineering problems involved like how to maintain pressure and cold while transporting the energy source particularily from the bottom of the sea but anyone who can go to the moon can figure that out.

That was my opinion yesterday, today I saw the flying competion for universities that took plae in Macao and got a lecture on areodynamics by someone who could not explain it. It was hard to believe that the College of Traditional Design would actually make a giant cartoon shaped boat with two tiny wings like paddles based on the idea of a Chinese lantern and expect it to fly any distance with person inside it. I had hoped it was a joke but the other projects from the other schools and universities were only slightly better and the ramp to acquire forward speed was totally wrong in shape, design and direction.

I have had a rather rough time of it this year.I have continuing computer problems. I have been releasing long held pain and anger from my childhood since my mother's death in Feburary and must begin to work on that which separates me and my daughter a Libra with Taurus rising and myself a Capriorn with Sag in 12th and rising and Moon and Pluto in Leo.
bjt

i meant to say that when i can think what to do I come to this site as my home.bjt

I seem to have a hard time saying things. When I was in primary school I met a woman about 65 then who told about her family going West on covered wagons when the earthquake came that formed Reelfoot Lake. The members of her family saw wagons ahead of them swallowed up by water where it had been dry a few minutes before. Since that was before television came to middle Tennessee and she never saw a movie, it seems like it could be true. Her family that survived turned back and farmed in Tenessee. This story was to inform me that things can change in the "twinkling of an eye."

Betsy!

I think you 'said' it just right... how visionary of you... fire and ice... change in a twinkling of an eye... yes, I would say you said it all...

What interesting work you do... I wasn't clear about the site of the competition... you are seeing a decline in education and/or application, where? Certainly we have one here in the States!

Light to you with the struggles of the past year. ((((Betsy)))))

I truly enjoy your posts, wish you could get computer time more often... namaste

Going through my journals I found the following article written just days after the invasion of Iraq. I thought it provocative then, and post an excerpt now for those of you who may not have seen it over two years ago [it's rather lengthy but worth the full read if you go to the link, which is still up.]

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Dubya's Gift -
To Drive The Train Wreck
Commentary By Thom Rutledge

My friend, Billy Bird, offered an uncharacteristically favorable comment about George W. Bush. He said, "Dubya is the perfect engineer to drive the train wreck."

I tend to agree. Maybe Dubya really is --- as he likes to think --- following his destiny in some way. And maybe that destiny really is to help save us all. Maybe he will save us, not from the Bush family arch enemy, Saddam Hussein, not from any axis of evil, and not from wimpy should-be allies who seem to think war should remain an action of last resort, but maybe he will help save us from ourselves. Maybe Dubya is here for one specific and very important reason: to drive the train wreck.

The potential upside of this global mess George W and his cohorts have gotten us into can be found in the possibility of awakening. In my experience, insight does not bring about awakening, pain does. And train wrecks can be mighty painful.

http://www.rense.com/general36/train.htm

Thom Rutledge is the author of Embracing Fear & Finding the Courage to Live Your Life (HarperSanFrancisco).

In the runup to the invasion of Iraq, I pinned my hopes on blocking Bush with the Brits more than with the American press... many letters flowed across the pond to MPs and British media... the following is a letter I wrote to the Mirror --- ironically on the eve of Bush's Shock 'n Awe --- the managing editor of the Mirror was later forced out because of his outspoken opposition to Bush ('course other excuses were made)...

Point:? Most of the world knew Bush was lying about the threat Iraq posed to America (or even to Israel, which was not voiced)... So, now when the DSMs are being peeked at by the Corporate Media and discarded like unworthy news, I am reminded of three years ago, when the attitude of Corporate was the same: 'move along, nothing here'

Here's my letter to the Mirror:

Sir:

I note your quote from Goldsmith that Res 1441 authorizes war... even this grandmother who lives in the woods of South Carolina, USA knows it does not. The Guardian yesterday ran two articles disagreeing with the Hon Goldsmith: one I can no longer find -- it's probably in the archives; however, a second article by Keir Starmer can be found at guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,915579,00.html
and of course there are numerous other articles before Goldsmith's -- the letter from 16 international law professors and of course the opinion from Clare Booth's firm Matrix. My point (I do have one) is perhaps it would be nice if you could run that opinion also --- that Res 1441 does NOT authorize war. All the haggling in the UN these past weeks has been about the fact that Mr. Bush is a rogue who is intent on breaking international law, and a majority of the Security Council as well as a majority of the United Nations OPPOSES military force, war, aggression --- whatever you want to call it --- against Iraq. What part of "NO" does Mr. Blair not understand?

Jo _________________________

Ilan Pappe - Fortress Israel

Intersting summation of the Israeli/Palestinian
problem...

http://peaceandjustice.org/article.php?story=20050515024649730&mode=print0

Peasant revolt in China,
something we definitely wish we could help as it deals with illegal arrest against people who
are battling intense chemical pollution causing birth defects...

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/062305I.shtml

Trudy,
Your Southern neighbors are already taking too many pills! That is part of the problem! I observed first hand 12 years ago, that while prozac may relieve the user from being depressed, it also detaches them from reality, making trouble for those around them! It would be intereesting to record how many of our estemed leaders are taking that medication. ( Not to mention those who support them)
PQ

Pat QOP I have to wonder why the American people are apparently just going ther way as their freedoms are being removed.

............

Separated at birth: Karl Rove and that creepy Nazi guy from Raiders of the Lost Ark?

Creepy Raiders of the Lost Ark Nazi guy
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/jones-jr/images_puits_des_ames/g_ronald_lacey.jpg

Karl Rove
http://phoenixandturtle.net/leek/rove.jpg

Am I the only one that sees it??? "We are... heh heh... not thirsty..."

Oi, fegalas can't march in Jerusalem...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/23/AR2005062301103_pf.html

I'm no Tom Cruise fan, but I found this interesting - from Salon.

Morning Briefing:
Not again: Tom Cruise apparently lost it on national TV again this morning. No, he did not jump up on the couch, but he did rip into Matt Lauer on the "Today" show when the host turned the topic to his position (and Scientology's) on the use of psychiatric drugs. And yes, poor Brooke Shields got hauled in as a bad example yet again. Gawker did us all the great service of excerpting the transcript:

Tom: Do you know what Adderall is? Do you know Ritalin? Do you know now that Ritalin is a street drug?

Matt: I understand the abuse of all these things --
T: [interrupting] Yeah but you don't understand the history of these drugs. And if you do, you know that it masks the problem. There is no such thing as a chemical imbalance!

M: But --

T: No, Matt, I know these things --
[Then later …]

M: So, depression -- is it all gobbledy gook?

T: No, Matt, I'm not saying that. That's an alteration of what I'm saying. These drugs are dangerous, mind-altering chemicals. There are ways of handling these problems so that we don't end up in a Brave New World.

M: You want [other people] to do well, but you want them to do well on a road that you approve of.

T: No --

M: [interrupting] But if anti-depressants worked for Brooke Shields, isn't that OK?

T: I disagree with it.

M: But aren't there examples where it works?

T: You don't even know what Ritalin is! If you read the papers on how they came up with the drug, the dosage ... You should be more responsible in knowing what it is. I am responsible. I know these things.

M: You're saying that you know how it affected people you don't know, but I do? You're now telling me that what has and hasn't worked for people I know, and I'm telling you I lived with these people and I saw an improvement.

T: So you're advocating?

M: No, I'm not. I'm just saying that in their individual cases, it helped them ... We could go in circles on this matter. But do you want more people to understand Scientology? Is that a goal of yours?

T: Of course. And I don't talk about things I don't understand.

UNDERSTANDING THE POWER OF REACHING CRITICAL MASS
by Patricia Diane Cota-Robles

http://1spirit.com/eraofpeace

There is a phenomenon that is causing awakening Humanity to feel frustrated and powerless over the challenges surfacing to be healed in all of our lives at this time.When we awaken and begin to understand the power of our creative faculties of thought and feeling, we attempt to control our behavior patterns in Order to improve our lives. We put forth the effort to think positively, and we strive to focus our attention on what we want to manifest in our lives instead of empowering our fears and what we do not want to create. Daily we envision the lives we would love to live, and we work to empower our visions with positive thoughts and affirmations.

But often, after what seems like a valiant effort, we continue to experience many of our old problems. This causes us to become discouraged
and to lose trust in our ability to change our lives. At this point, we feel like our efforts are futile, and we usually give up on trying to
improve our situations. We let go of our visions and regress back into our old, negative thinking patterns. We dwell on our fears, problems and
challenges instead of empowering our goals, hopes and dreams. As a result of that relapse, things get worse, and our situations appear even more hopeless. If we understand the Universal Law governing that particular phenomenon, it will give us the courage to persevere even in the illusion of apparent failure.

Everything is comprised of energy, vibration and consciousness. When we explore a portion of the vast science of quantum physics, we learn that
when something reaches critical mass, there is an unstoppable shift that takes place. For instance, when an electron is increasing in vibration,
the moment it reaches critical mass, the entire electron is pulled up into the higher frequency, and nothing can stop it.

CRITICAL MASS is 51 PERCENT.
WHEN 51 PERCENT OF AN ELECTRON IS VIBRATING AT A HIGHER FREQUENCY,
THE REMAINING 49 PERCENT IS INSTANTLY ABSORBED INTO THE NEW VIBRATION.

So, how does this facet of quantum physics affect our ability to take charge of our own lives?

As we strive to improve our lives, the same laws of quantum physics apply.
When empowering a vision or thoughtform, the moment 51 percent of our
energy, vibration and consciousness is in alignment with our vision, it
reaches critical mass, and nothing can stop it from manifesting. The
problem is that we never know just when we are going to reach that magical
moment of critical mass. There are often no outer-world signs, and it may
even look as if we are very far away from that instant of transformation.
That is when we usually feel our efforts are failing, and we give up.
Sometimes we may be just a breath away from reaching critical mass,
but we don't realize that, so we get discouraged and stop working to reach our
goals. Then we end up never manifesting our visions.

In very practical terms, critical mass means that when we are striving to
create prosperity in our lives, the moment our thoughts, words, actions
and feelings are vibrating with 51 percent prosperity consciousness
instead of poverty consciousness, our life circumstances will shift, and
we will begin to experience prosperity. The moment 51 percent of our
energy is aligned with self-esteem and love, we will magnetize positive
relationships into our lives. The moment 51 percent of our energy is
aligned with peace, harmony and balance, we will manifest those Divine
Qualities tangibly in our life experiences.

The key to our success is that we must keep on keeping on, even in the
face of adversity. It is vital for us to understand that the Light of God
is infinitely more powerful than any fragmented human miscreations we may
have inadvertently created. Poverty has no power over the limitless
Abundance of God. Our Divine Potential is infinitely more powerful than
disease, failure, dysfunctional relationships, hatred, greed, corruption,
war or any of the other humanly-created maladies appearing on the screen
of life.

As long as we choose the Light and consecrate our energy to empower only
the positive experiences we want to create in our lives and not the
negative experiences we don't want, we will manifest our visions and
dreams faster than we can possibly imagine.
This information is being given to us by the Beings of Light in the Realms
of Illumined Truth during this critical moment on Earth to help us
remember that if we don't like what is happening in our lives, we have the
option to do something about it. This is true for each of us individually,
and it is true for all of us collectively as a global family.

It is important that we put things back into perspective and accept
responsibility for turning our lives around. When we deliberately focus on
cocreating our highest Divine Potential, our efforts are empowered by the
unfathomable Light of our God Selves and the entire Company of Heaven.
When we reach critical mass, our success is assured.

We don't have to believe in the various Universal Laws in order to exist
on Earth, but since we are ALL subject to them, it is just common sense
for us to try and accept them. We do not have to believe in the Law of
Gravity, but if we jump off of a roof we are going to fall to the ground.
We do not have to believe that every single thought, word, action and
feeling we have will go out and affect the world and then return to us to
affect our personal lives, but this is happening scientifically, to the
letter, in spite of any disbelief we may have.

It does not matter whether we believe in reincarnation or whether we
understand that we have an accumulation of experiences from other time
frames and dimensions that are influencing our present lives; it is
happening anyway. If we stop resisting this Truth and just accept it as a
possibility, it will certainly be to our advantage. Even if we just say to
ourselves, "What if it is true? What if I really can turn things around in
my life by accepting the Law of the Circle and working with that principle
instead of fighting against it?"

If we will each just experiment with this Universal Law and daily empower
only the thoughts, words, actions and feelings we want to manifest in our
lives, we will experience a positive shift immediately. When we are
willing to take this first step and genuinely put forth the effort to
correct our behavior, the floodgates of Heaven open to assist us in
accomplishing our goals. Then if we just keep on keeping on until we reach
critical mass, we will experience an unstoppable shift and our lives will
be transformed.

Remember, the Light of God is ALWAYS Victorious and You are that Light!

This article is copyrighted, but you have my permission to share it through any medium
as long as the proper credit line is included.

©2004 Patricia Diane Cota-Robles

Lyrics to "Little Green" by Joni
http://www.oldielyrics.com/lyrics/joni_mitchell/little_green.html

Why does the moon look so big???

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/4619063.stm

GOOD FOR TOM. I am no Scientology fan, although I have been thru some training in other language workshops, but most of all....I have been given drugs by doctors including Ritalin, Soma, Valium...and ended up on one after another in the 1970's until I said enough! Tom's right....and one can't help but notice, also, that most of the top stars who are the most interesting ARE Scientologists. Just an observation....we are the sheeple being medicated and dosed into oblivion, and better wake up...which is all he is saying to Matt the Sheeple Lauer.

Californian's opinion of Bush - latest poll

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/c/a/2005/06/24/MNGHTDEBNH1.DTL&o=0

As goes California, so goes the Nation???

critical mass

The minimum mass of a particular fissionable nuclide in a given volume required to sustain a nuclear chain reaction.
The smallest mass of fissionable material that will support a self-sustaining chain reaction.
Source: U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission

... When the fuel is above critical mass, there are more than enough nuclei around to sustain the chain reactions. In fact, each chain reaction grows exponentially in size with the passage of time. Since each fission directly induces more than one subsequent fission, it takes only a few generations of fissions before there are astronomical numbers of nuclei fissioning in the fuel. Explosive chain reactions of this sort occur in nuclear weapons.

The critical mass is the minimum mass for which a chain reaction will occur in a fissile material. The fission of a nucleus yields two fragments of approximately equal size. These fragments tend to be in a highly energetic, unstable state, and boil off excess energy by ejecting fast neutrons. An ejected neutron can then encounter another nucleus where it can induce fission, be captured by this nucleus, or just be scattered away toward another nucleus. The more nuclei this neutron encounters, the better chance it has of causing another nucleus to split.

Pat C,
Did you read "Autobiography of a Yogi" by Paramahansa Yogananda? He bi-located in front of his students one day. They were outside having a lesson when he noticed the gardener digging holes for the new trees and bi-located to the man to make sure he was planting the trees exactly where Yogananda wanted them to be; while at the same time still giving the lesson to his students!
Born on January 5, 1893 in Gorakhpur, India. (time?)

judi, yes. We are a drugged nation. I can recommend to anyone homeopathy. It is the mental/spiritual that manifets into physical ailments in all of us, including out pets. We now have more elderly drugaddicts than ever before, and the generation that is now in their their late twenties and thirties are for the most part lost to us.

Jill G, yes I did. I was thinking of rereading it just the other day. It's a wonderful book, and I want to be reminded during these difficult times. Thanks for bringing it up here. You reminded me.

Jo, heh! Message recieved. It's not a minute too soon either.

http://www.grandtheftelectionohio.com/

Quite good though off the beaten path

http://www.juancole.com/

Friday, June 24, 2005
Student Unions [in Iraq] Call for Withdrawal of Occupation Troops

Gilbert Achcar kindly sends along his translation of this newspaper article:

Also a good piece on old Karl - scroll down

http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2005/06/24/karl_rove/index.html

Karl Rove is a liar
In attacking liberals' reaction to Sept. 11, Bush's senior advisor once again resorts to McCarthy-style tactics.

Pat QOP, I hope all is well with your son. I don't now why, but I vision him slim with fair hair. I'm not a psychic though, so I'm probably wrong.

My theory on Rx meds for depression etc. is close to the same observation Randi Rhodes has made on her show. I believe that there are two Aemrcias which are not bound by geography - there is America, which is independent, liberal minded like our nations forefathers and foremothers, more culurally influenced by enlightment ideals and deism(like out nation's forfathers) and are much more global in thinking. I think most of us fit into this "America".

The other America is really named "Generica", which are found in pockets throughout the nation - New Jersey, Dallas, Orlando, New Haven, etc. If you blind folded someone and left them in the middle of "Generica", they would not even know what state or city they were in until they saw a local newspaper(which are few in Generica). Generica is filled with gated communities with the same pre-fab housing which come in the homebuyers choice of only 10 models. It is also filled with the same "big box" stores and restaurants which serves the most medicore fare so that it is palpable to the masses. The credo in Generica is "what about me?" Capitalism is not about dynamic change and innovation, but about serving to the most base of human needs so that it doesn't offend. Therefore, because of it's fear of offending (like making sure the chili bowl at the Chili's restaurant isn't too spicy) it is stagnate and conventional. The consumer does not see themselves are part of a larger global chain in the world of commerce, but instead, see their own needs and wants as the driving force of the economy. Therefore, they see themselves and their needs as the driving force of capitalism, regardless of the larger social issues which are influences by the materialism common in Generica.

Another issue in Generica is the isolation felt by its population. Sequestered in there huge Mc-Mansions in these gated communities, "Genericans" begin to see the world as a dangerous place. Few ride bikes or exercise since you cannot bike to nearby businesses. Instead, Genericans are depended on cars and the hihgway to go to businesses. And, the car emphasizes this isolationism because it caccoons people from others, nature, and the world. You don't ever need to sweat in Generica or feel the cold.

Well, people were not meant to be so isolated from each other. We are social creatures. So, Genericans get depressed. They don't exercise(they tend to over work) so their seritonin levels in the brain is really low causing depression. They develop almost a self-induced "cabin fever" that slowly drives them into doctors offices who are more then willing to make a buck on the depression of his/her clients.

Well, I know its a long post, but I think their is some validity to my argument. Love to hear comments.

Marshall Plan my 'you know what"!
We hope that Mr Bush will do a Marshall plan calling it the Bush plan!!!!!

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=0J3DWFEL4B5L4CRBAEZSFFA?type=politicsNews&storyID=8888912&pageNumber=1
THE HUTZPAH!!!!!!!!!!!
PQ

Travieso, I think you are accurate in all of your points. I only wonder then about those 'survivalist" types who live really far from towns and cities. Perhaps the gated communities have accomplished the same thing but in a more helpless form.

June 24, 2005
The War President
By PAUL KRUGMAN
VIENNA

In this former imperial capital, every square seems to contain a giant statue of a Habsburg on horseback, posing as a conquering hero.

America's founders knew all too well how war appeals to the vanity of rulers and their thirst for glory. That's why they took care to deny presidents the kingly privilege of making war at their own discretion.

But after 9/11 President Bush, with obvious relish, declared himself a "war president." And he kept the nation focused on martial matters by morphing the pursuit of Al Qaeda into a war against Saddam Hussein.

In November 2002, Helen Thomas, the veteran White House correspondent, told an audience, "I have never covered a president who actually wanted to go to war" - but she made it clear that Mr. Bush was the exception. And she was right.

Leading the nation wrongfully into war strikes at the heart of democracy. It would have been an unprecedented abuse of power even if the war hadn't turned into a military and moral quagmire. And we won't be able to get out of that quagmire until we face up to the reality of how we got in.

Let me talk briefly about what we now know about the decision to invade Iraq, then focus on why it matters.

The administration has prevented any official inquiry into whether it hyped the case for war. But there's plenty of circumstantial evidence that it did.

And then there's the Downing Street Memo - actually the minutes of a prime minister's meeting in July 2002 - in which the chief of British overseas intelligence briefed his colleagues about his recent trip to Washington.

"Bush wanted to remove Saddam," says the memo, "through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and W.M.D. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy." It doesn't get much clearer than that.

The U.S. news media largely ignored the memo for five weeks after it was released in The Times of London. Then some asserted that it was "old news" that Mr. Bush wanted war in the summer of 2002, and that W.M.D. were just an excuse. No, it isn't. Media insiders may have suspected as much, but they didn't inform their readers, viewers and listeners. And they have never held Mr. Bush accountable for his repeated declarations that he viewed war as a last resort.

Still, some of my colleagues insist that we should let bygones be bygones. The question, they say, is what we do now. But they're wrong: it's crucial that those responsible for the war be held to account.

Let me explain. The United States will soon have to start reducing force levels in Iraq, or risk seeing the volunteer Army collapse. Yet the administration and its supporters have effectively prevented any adult discussion of the need to get out.

On one side, the people who sold this war, unable to face up to the fact that their fantasies of a splendid little war have led to disaster, are still peddling illusions: the insurgency is in its "last throes," says Dick Cheney. On the other, they still have moderates and even liberals intimidated: anyone who suggests that the United States will have to settle for something that falls far short of victory is accused of being unpatriotic.

We need to deprive these people of their ability to mislead and intimidate. And the best way to do that is to make it clear that the people who led us to war on false pretenses have no credibility, and no right to lecture the rest of us about patriotism.

The good news is that the public seems ready to hear that message - readier than the media are to deliver it. Major media organizations still act as if only a small, left-wing fringe believes that we were misled into war, but that "fringe" now comprises much if not most of the population.

In a Gallup poll taken in early April - that is, before the release of the Downing Street Memo - 50 percent of those polled agreed with the proposition that the administration "deliberately misled the American public" about Iraq's W.M.D. In a new Rasmussen poll, 49 percent said that Mr. Bush was more responsible for the war than Saddam Hussein, versus 44 percent who blamed Saddam.

Once the media catch up with the public, we'll be able to start talking seriously about how to get out of Iraq.

E-mail: krugman@nytimes.com

Thanks for posting the Krugman article, wv. Will the media be able to catch up with the public soon, Sally?

I hear Bush is going to give a "major" speech Tuesday night from Fort Bragg to talk about Iraq. Would this be considered an event worthy of an event chart?

On the medication issue, I found Tom Cruise's remarks ill-informed and offensive. To say something doesn't help people because HE doesn't believe in it is indicative of an out-of-control ego that literally knows no bounds.

Is there too much self-medicating in the USA? Of course. There is everywhere. But there are those that do strongly benefit from this. Homeopathy doesn't work for everyone. Counseling doesn't work for everyone. But having the medicine every day in order to balance out difficult to deal with emotions and function and then build up the strength to face the HUGE issues eventually does work. Who am I (or anyone) to say that's "wrong"?

We each find our own path. And Mr. Cruise will hopefully, although I doubt it, understand that, while Scientology works for him, for many it doesn't. (My brief investigation of it when I was young found it creepy, interested in total control and insistent on complete allegiance. Really weird.) Perhaps he'll come to respect diversity instead of attacking it and labeling it "wrong".

Myself? I see the rapidly disintegrating career of someone who was once Hollywood's Biggest Star. Sad thing is that he doesn't see it.

Oh well.

I'm beginning to think that Rove is working
toward the "Mussolini solution".

A commencement address by Barak Obama...

http://www.knox.edu/x9803.xml

Todd Gitlin on Rove...

http://www.tpmcafe.com/story/2005/6/23/12272/6122

This was posted on Salon by some wise person.

"I happened to watch the movie "Nuremberg" last night -- not the award-winning "Judgment At Nuremberg" film from 1961, but a newer version circa 2000, made for cable and starring Alec Baldwin. Of course, it deals with the post-WWII Nuremberg war crimes trials. It reminded me how a.) Sen. Dick Durbin was right and b.) how he didn't go far enough in his comparison.

By the time the film is about two thirds over, we are shown how Nazi war crimes were enabled by a political movement that:

1.) Brooked no opposition and actively worked to solidy its power. [Hermann Goerring testified that the Nazis planned all along to jigger the government and rig elections to ensure that they could make permanent their rule. He said the newly combined and strengthened executive position of das Fuhrer was modeled after the relatively powerful US presidency, a job which combined the head of state and executive functions.]

2.) Based its control on disinformation and fear, spending much time monitoring media and installing government toadies into positions of influence and overt control.

3.) Loudly proclaimed that dissent was traitorous.

4.) Argued that in order to be safe, the nation needed to invade other countries before they would attack -- in other words, the nation needed to engage in preventive war.

5.) Kept assuring the populace that victory was just around the corner, but that the homeland's enemies were everwhere.

6.) Closely integrated the government war-making machinery with that of large private industrial concerns.

7.) Ran roughshod over civil and judicial rights, imprisoning suspected enemies of the state without charging them formally or holding court hearings.

8.) Tortured detainees in the name of national security.

9.) Marginalized an entire ethinic minority, leading to vigilantism, state-sanctioned genocide and the forcible appropriation of private property.

10.) Allowed junior officers and even civiilians to commit war crimes, based on the excuses that orders from superiors must always be obeyed, and that no one really knew the extent of atrocities, if they knew of them at all.

11.) Created a secret police force that would spirit away politically troublesome individuals, many of whom were never seen again.

12.) Let many of its own citizens continue to suffer malnutrition, living in squalor and and failing health in order to pursue its dreams of global hegemony.

13.) Relied on international financial institutions to tinker with foreign currencies in an effort to sustain and extend its control.

14.) Instituted sweeping domestic security procedures, including national identity papers for all citizens.

15) Was depened upon its leaders lying to the nation's citizens and to the world body about its reasons and plans for war.

16) Created a vast, continent-spanning array of prison camps for civilian detainees.

The comparisons almost seem endless. Is this to say the USA is equivalent to Nazi Germany? Of course not. Is it to say that those of us with consciences and empathy are forced to confront some very troubling trends? Well, it sort of seems that way!"

Food for thought...

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2005/062405.html

The Last Watergate Mystery
Robert Parry

Bernie Sanders - "Have They No Shame?"

http://www.tpmcafe.com/story/2005/6/24/155932/073

Hey Folks,
I heard that right after sunset tonight that you will be able to see a bright triangle of Mercury, Saturn and Venus in the WNW.
http://www.earthsky.com/skywatching/tsky.php?t=20050624

Is Cheney's cold heart being squeezed by the approaching transits? Arianna says he paid an unplanned visit to a Colorado hospital.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/

Hi jm, re. you Saturn in Leo and statement ...

The problem comes in the validation with Saturn. There is a fear of embarrassment with other people and that I will be judged harshly. So there is restriction in the expression around other people.

JM, I had the same problem (Sat. in Sag, though), but very self conscious some times in public. A dear friend (the one who taught me Cancel Cancel - see switchwords) taught me this very cool affirmation and it REALLY works.

When we feel tense or afraid our shoulders tend to go up around our ears, heart rate increases, we frown and push away ... so, to counteract the pressure, as soon as you feel even slightly insecure in public or better yet, before you get to where ever you are going, repeat either mentally or verbally (doesn't matter) ... Repeat it slowly, with inflection, the more the better, so it sinks in ...

I, jm, am highly pleased with myself in the presence of others. Repeat over and over until you feel better.

If at any point in time you get tense again, just repeat. You probably will find over time that you are able to "reprogram" yourself and because you lean to trust the affirmation ....

You will be amazed. You just keep repeating it until you start smiling, shoulders back in place. Heart rate where it belongs ... :)

As I said before it ain't going to happen as the cons here wish - cons rule here and the same cons
LOVE foreign liberals to a hilt, like we like
Iran to be ruled by LIBERALS, but latest news
they like their cons in Iran too and for the sake of US repugs, Iran is not going to oblige and have
elected their own con prez or PM or whatever. Like
they say charity begins at home, so let us start with Liberals governing HERE and all over and then
wish Liberals governing the rest of the world!

Pat C. and Jill G...my friend Patricia Meyer the flower essence practitioner (http://www.patsgarden.com) turned me on to homeopathy 20 years ago, and I knew about it even before that in LA....it is good stuff....and I highly recommend it (will the rovian pests also put finis to any alternative medicines?...and I have had the Yogananda book sitting next to my bed for a while, waiting to be reread....I used to go out to the SRF center in LA, out past UCLA on Sunset Blvd on the way to the beach....used to walk there alot. And of course, the Catholics have their own bi-locator in Padre Pio....I also am familiar with the wonderful stories of the yogis who produce rosepetals, fruit and even Rolex watches (this one appeared in a jewelry store in Switzerland where he purchased it at the same time that he was manifesting it in his ashram in India)...oh my, I feel so little and insignificant and I know NOTHING anymore....I've gotta come back a whole lot more times on this earth to get to the top of the mountain, I think!

WV...thanks for the Little Green lyrics...and hey guys, WV has a great picture of Stonehenge he shared with me (it is my desktop background now), with this amazing triangle of stars hovering over one of the keystones...awesome, WV....

this from truthout:http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/062405Z.shtml
  Mr. Pataki, who refused to criticize Mr. Rove, responded angrily, taking direct aim at Mrs. Clinton, who has maintained a wary truce with him since taking office. "I think it's a little hypocritical for Senator Clinton to call on me to repudiate a political figure's comments when she never asked Senator Durbin to repudiate his comments," he said.

REPUDIATE DURBINS 'COMMENTS'??? I am still p o'd over this...those lousy slugs got upset because Durbin was reading from a friggin FBI report, the slimy SOB's....

Jewish Humanitarian Organization Opposes CAFTA
American Jewish World Service

Thursday 23 June 2005

New York - The board of directors of American Jewish World Service on June 12 voted its opposition to the Central American Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA), calling it a "disaster" for the poorest of Central America's poor.

"CAFTA would be nothing less than a disaster for Central America's most vulnerable and impoverished citizens. Every local partner we work with in the region opposes it - without exception," said Ruth Messinger, AJWS board president and executive director of the agreement, which would create a free trade area between the United States and Costa Rica, the Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras and Nicaragua.

While acknowledging that CAFTA could possibly bring some economic benefits, the board through its resolution expressed its deep concern that the agreement as written would benefit a relative few at the expense of the poorest of the poor.

http://www.truthout.org/issues_05/printer_062405LC.shtml

37% and falling.

http://field.com/fieldpollonline/subscribers/RLS2161.pdf

Note, it's a pdf.

...............

Dear Friends,

Marc (aka husband) has launched a new website with a PowerPoint presentation of the concept he has developed to overcome electronic voter fraud using existing technology. He calls it Two Pass Verification. Please send him your feedback at www.2PV.org . Please also forward this website (and the email below) to people who might be interested.

Being a programmer, he just noticed a sign of PC-related voting fraud having to do with the number of votes recorded. His letter is below. (Please also send comments!)
L.

2PV.org: Email #1
In the Texas elections of 2002, one county where electronic machines were used to count the vote, a very interesting thing happened. In 3 of the 30 races, the Republican candidate received the same exact number of votes 18,181.
Bryan Hayes, of Dartmouth University, did a statistical analysis to see what the chances of this happening (see http://www.dartmouth.edu/~chance/chance_news/recent_news/chance_news_12.03.html). What are the odds of this happening? About 2500 to 1, according to the study.
What is mentioned in the article is that the number is a palindrome. What is not mentioned is that it is a prime number. Fine, there are plenty of palindromic numbers that are prime. For example there is 101, 191, 383 etc. What makes this one so special? After the obvious 11, it is the first palindrome that the front of the part of the palindrome equals the back end (a paired palindrome prime).
101 10 | 01 False
191 19 | 91 False
18181 181 | 181 TRUE
What are the other numbers that have this property? Not that many under 1,000,000:
11
18181
32323
35353
72727
74747
78787
94949
95959
18181 is a test number, a signal number.
No vote audit was ever done. And on the official results page? They posthumously CHANGED the vote to 18183 FOR ALL THE THREE CANDIDATES THAT TIED!!! Don't believe me? Look at the Texas website: http://www.co.comal.tx.us/Election_Results2002.htm
More on the Texas vote: http://www.badelephant.com/?tab=3&art=3&pg=3
Thanks,

Oh judi! What a beautiful link! Thanks so much for posting it. I bookmarked it in my medicine file.

Jill has inspired me to get that book off of my bookshelf. I had been missing it.

I hope that people will e-mail, call and write to the nine senators that signed John Kerry's letter to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, and to Senator Kerry himself, to thank them for standing up to this administration and demanding some answers on the DSM. But as Salon.com asks, where were the other Democrats?

U.S. DESPERATELY SEEKING TO DISMISS AIDS ORIGIN LAWSUIT

San Diego, CA. - June 19th, 2005

Federal Judge Sabraw has ordered an open court oral argument for Friday, June 24, 2005 at 1:30p.m.to hear arguments by the United States to support a motion to dismiss the AIDS ORIGIN lawsuit of Dr. Boyd Ed Graves. Dr. Graves AIDS ORIGIN research and his nearly eight years of continuous legal action against the United States for the creation, production and proliferation of HIV/AIDS has been
receiving critical acclaim from scientists and medical doctors from all over the world.

I am hopeful, said Graves, that the Federal Court will deny the United States motion to dismiss and allow this issue to reach a jury verdict some time next year. I am certain reasonable people will conclude the U.S AIDS ORIGIN documents require and demand further accountability from the defendant, the United States of America.
According to the 1971 progress report of the U.S. Special Virus program, HIV/AIDS is a recombinant (virus) agent that has been formed by converging a leukemia and a lymphoma, a BIOLOGICAL WEAPON.

In 1984, (alleged) co-discoverers of HIV/AIDS, Drs. Robert Gallo and Luc Montague, concluded the original name of HIV/AIDS is LEUKEMIA/LYMPHOMA virus. See, Montague, L. & Gallo, R.C., et. al., Human T-Cell Leukemia Lymphoma Virus Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory, (Cold Spring Harbor, NY, 1984). Additionally, the United States admits that the Nazi sheep virus visna, had not yet appeared in human disease. Because no one could explain how this Nazi sheep virus supposedly hopped species, the U.S. General Accounting Office began an investigation into the U.S. origin of HIV/AIDS in July, 2001 at the bequest of a Congressman.

The United States has sought to hide, dispel, distract and mislead any serious inquiry into the U.S. Special Virus program at every level and by every means necessary until this litigation.
For the rest of the story go to: http://www.dldewey.com/may04.htm

Fascinating Pat C.!

Kiwijeanie, great website...Urania.info. There's a lot there.

As I said in a previous post...can't remember which one...we were all discussing Cheney...Nancy Waterman's, Sally's ...don't remember...ANYWAY, I don't think Cheney's health is going to be too supportive of his idiotic bombast. tSaturn is now squating on his nChiron in the 11th, opposing his nVenus/Vx in his Capricornian 5th house. The 5th is often linked with heart problems. So Ruler of the 5th in the 11th. There are other indications that his ticker is going to explode. His pMars also in the 5th, opposing his pPluto/MC in the 11th. Although one could interpret these things in many ways, I think the minute tSaturn enters Leo, he's going to have to resign or go to bed for a very long time. I think that we'll be hearing more about his health via the underground real soon.

Beasley, from a less scientific root, an old friend of mine who has now passed on, a Chief of one of the Shawnee bands, and Medicine Man use to swear that the AIDS virus was created just about the way the article accuses. He wasn't easily disturbed, but was very disturbed by that.

I'd love to have the Stonehenge photo Judi G or WV. My email address is Sharon@myron.gs.net

It really appeals to be because I had kind of a religious experience at Stonehenge.

Beasley!

Vice President Dick Cheney was taken to the cardiac unit of the Vail Valley Medical Center. Contrary to Associated Press reports that he went to see orthopedic surgeon, Dr. Steadman, for a knee injury, Vice President Cheney went directly to the cardiac unit to see Dr. Jack Eck and his team. The Vice President checked into the hospital under the name of Dr. Hoffman.

Posted June 24, 2005 10:06 PM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/thenewswire/archive/2005/...

Here is the AP article:

Cheney Visits Orthopedist in Colorado

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: June 24, 2005
Filed at 9:21 p.m. ET

VAIL, Colo. (AP) -- Vice President Dick Cheney visited a renowned orthopedist Friday while in town for a forum held by a conservative think tank, his spokeswoman said.

Cheney met with Dr. Richard Steadman to evaluate an old football injury to his knee, Cheney spokeswoman Lea Anne McBride said.

Steadman focuses primarily on sports medicine, and his Steadman Hawkins Clinic has treated a number of famous athletes. In 2003, Los Angeles Lakers player Kobe Bryant was in Vail for knee surgery at the clinic when he was accused of raping a hotel worker.

Cheney was scheduled to attend the American Enterprise Institute World Forum, which was started in 1982 by former President Gerald Ford.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Cheney-Doct...

And, Jonathan, I totally agree with you. I think Tom Cruise is a little too self-righteous for his own good. I recently saw him in "Magnolia," a really interesting movie I read about on DU, and his persona was that of a disturbed, egotistical, motivational coach who preached mysogyny and sexual domination...a really interested character for which he got an Oscar nod in approx. 1999. I keep thinking of him that way, though, and I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't a true, albeit exaggerated, aspect of his character. I think most people wouldn't be on anti-depressants or other psychotropics if they had a choice, but it's better than suicide and deep depression. How can Tom be so sure there is no such thing as a chemical imbalance?

http://markcrispinmiller.blogspot.com/2005/06/secret-ballot-compromised-in-georgia.html

Secret ballot compromised in Georgia!

Still more evidence of monkey business in the 2004 election.

I just want to claify here that as I said, I am no fan of Tom Cruise, but I thought the interview was interesting. I am also NO FAN of BIG PHARMA. I'll have to take a look at what Neptune is doing in the charts. I don't know about you, but I have heard very little about CoQ10 or vitamin A in use for angina and schizophrenia respectively. No.... Those are just a couple of the more mundane remedies they won't mention to loudly. Just try to get insurance for acupunture or homiopathic doctors.

That's why I thought it was an interesting interview. It will probably hurt Cruise, but he has raised the conversation. My mind did not go directly to Scientology, and it may be the same for others as well.

JAYCEE, Jo...

The posts on critical mass were great. It's so good to keep this in mind and keep moving ahead.

Marta,

That is wonderful advice about my Saturn in Leo. I love it:"I, jm, am highly pleased with myself in the presence of others."
I've got it pinned up on my bulletin board by my computer and will use it to embrace my Saturn return.

Saturn rules royalty so there might be problems for the royal families with this upcoming transit. And since the Bush and Clinton families rule like royalty...divine inherited right... there might be troubles for all of them.
Since Saturn is going below Bush's horizon to conjunct Pluto, I can't see anything but a darkening of his spotlight. Saturn wants a good one.... a star who is skilled and can satisfy the audience. I think he's worn out his act. This will probably be the last big speech about his great accomplishments in Iraq before Saturn leaves Cancer. Who will believe him? Will he be exposed for the sham he is?

Leo is all about the heart chakra and the spontaneous expression of love. With our North Node in Leo, the world has always admired this country and imitated its behavior, as with all stars. I'm wondering if this transit will make us aware of the love we've lost and how much we miss it. I still think it's there, but needs to be revisited. If we could bring down this administration in some grand theatrical heroic fashion, we would be the star again.

I think there will be a lot of tension as Saturn starts in Leo, since Jupiter will be squaring, Mars for six months as well, and Neptune opposing. But when Jupiter goes into Sagittarius it will meet Pluto and trine the Saturn. That looks mighty interesting.

And know we know, Saddam can read books and write books.

I meant, of course, Leo rules royalty.

It's happening. Saturn is in Turkey judging the USA and it's severe.

http://www.worldtribunal.org/main/?

wv and Pat C will probably find us some good info on this.

I've thot since dys-election 2000, & began to truly understand, the US wasn't the "guy with the white hat"... that the US had developed as one of its bio-weapons the AIDS virus in order to decimate Africa of its Peoples in order to seize its natural resources. This is the lst definitive news I've seen that supports that supposition. And my heart grieves & breaks once again... it just never stops. How I loathe the US govt!

I'm having a problem sleeping tonight... so trying to clear out some of the stuff in my head...

No. 1 ---
I don't think anyone got my post on critical mass. I've come up with the following options: a) my communication skills are zero; b) nobody really 'reads' anymore, they simply 'scan' for 30 sec bites c) a combination of a & b, or d) 'critical mass' can affect consciousness (goddess forbid!) and our (collective) mind is blown and I really am al-alone, not al-one!

Being anti-war and certainly opposed to the use of REAL WMDs --- nuklur, as George would say --- why would anyone use the term 'critical mass' in speaking of consciousness- raising?

No. 2 -- when something becomes rotten or diseased it usually dies. That is my view of NPR. Now while surfing half-asleep, I find my old friend winterboy has written a terrific commentary on NPR. He suggests that:

"liberals who rely on NPR (Not Politically Relevant; Negro-Proof Radio; National Pentagon Peport, what have you) for their political savvy should (please dear god) STOP VOTING!"

Seems he conducted a little not-really-scientific experiment while traveling recently. He flipped the dial every few mins between NPR and Boston Progressive Radio (BPR) [one of the negatives of living in this RED state is there is no progressive radio available... so I don't listen to the radio]. The results of this little trial can be viewed at the following link. An excerpt is submitted, but the full read is recommended. Again, imho, NPR is rotting, to the core. It is terminally ill, let it die. [discussion about rescuing it, saving it from the Repub onslaught is moot... it was seized by the Repug establishment long ago, and has become one of their best tools for their propaganda and psych ops. If they want to hasten its demise, let them.

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BEFORE NOON
NPR- Two hours of some broadcast-live Christian church service, somber and dark, with heavy male chanting and lots of intoning.
BPT- Two hour discussion of bio-diesel and other petroleum alternatives with US Senators, farmers, entreprenuers and industry experts.

EARLY AFTERNOON
NPR- This month's severe upsurge in violence is not an indication that the situation in Iraq is out of control; in fact, if you spread the number of recent incidents and deaths out over the year, you'll see no increase at all. And Cole Porter really rocks.
BPT- An in-depth look at how the recently passed bankruptcy bill sticks it mostly to the seriously ill, and to veterans; why won't America let Italy examine the car fired upon by US troops in Iraq, in which an Italian intelligence officer was killed and a Communist journalist severely wounded?

LATE AFTERNOON
NPR- A controversial new play about the 1978 Jonestown 'cult suicides', with no mention of Reverend Jim Jones' extensive political connections or the fact that most of the 900 dead did not show signs of having died of cyanide poisoning, but of gunshot wounds. Also, the White House's report showing the US Homeland terrorist threat is really, really low for a change- proof that the Patriot Act is working.
BPT- An interview with a 12-year old environmental activist who has made a big impact on his hometown; Bobby Kennedy Jr deconstructs W's 'intelligence reforms'. And a report on the 2005 government terrorist report, squelched by the White House for declaring a three-fold increase (and all-time record high) in terrorist activity worldwide.

EARLY EVENING
NPR- Tony Blair and W may have met several months before the Iraq invasion, to plan it. Car talk- homespun car wisdom and lots of fake laughter.
BPT- The London Times EXPOSE: Tony Blair and W met nearly a year before the Iraqi invasion, and planned how to sell the war to their respective citizens; portions of newly-obtained and previously classified/hidden documents concerning VP Cheney's secret Energy task Force meetings are read ON THE AIR.

http://www.livejournal.com/users/punkywinterboy/

Joanna,

I'm in total agreement. The reason I can't sleep tonight is my heart is sooo broken... one thing after enough... and the greatest hurt of all is that Americans are 'going about their business' like nothing is happening... I too loathe the US Gov't.

But, according to the Constitution, we are the government...

Sometimes I wonder if it isn't so much the rest of America has recently gone to sleep, but more that most of the people have ALWAYS been asleep to the depths of devious machinations from the top powerbrokers. And it is only through the communcation blessing of the internet that some of us are beginning to wake up to what really happens. What a fabulous repository of information for political sherlock holmes'!
The Gutenberg press facilitated the first enlightenment, which was not without its hardship for many; the internet age must surely be the precursor to a grand second enlightenment era for the next level, and methinks we are yet in for a bumpy ride.

Jo Writes: I don't think anyone got my post on critical mass. I've come up with the following options: a) my communication skills are zero; b) nobody really 'reads' anymore, they simply 'scan' for 30 sec bites c) a combination of a & b, or d) 'critical mass' can affect consciousness (goddess forbid!) and our (collective) mind is blown and I really am al-alone, not al-one!

Jo, I LOVE your posts and read them whenever I can. But I hear you, I have been feeling all alone on this side of the world too, and feeling like my communication skills are zero. Even though I don't always respond, your posts often are a sort of lifeline for me.

Must be this full moon period.

Jo, and anyone else out there listening, last year from time to time we participated in some global group meditatons. I think now would be an excellent time to reactivate on a regular basis. What do you think? Time suggestions?

"But, according to the Constitution, we are the govt..." Yea, verily, dear Jo. Woulda, shoulda, coulda & If Only don't exist apparently. Today is not really a good day for the head or heart or to talk with others. Besides, it's too quiet. I shudder to think what these monsters are whipping up next. ;O( (On & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on & on...)

This astrology link was posted at DU
http://astrologyguild.com/chaostheory.htm
Astrological Overview 1980 - 2020

And these words, unfortunately hit home ....
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This Uranus/Neptune mutual reception should be fully appreciated - it corresponds to both inspired, innovative group and collective endeavors, and to ruthless sociopolitical ideology and mass deception. Such polarization characterizes many major global developments since 2003, and it may continue to characterize global socioeconomic and political developments for decades to come.
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I guess we must represent the inspired, innovative group seeking collective endeavors.

jm

Thanks for the link to the World Tribunal Confab
in Turkey. I have read Aurandati Roy's opening
remarks. She is one of my favorite people in the
world, and she doesn't mince words.
I went to the Turkish papers to see if they are
covering it, to no avail. However, all of the
speeches are posted, and press releases and minutes from their previous meetings. There is a
great deal of information here that Bush and Co.
would rather we not know. Unfortunately I couldn't
download any of them and was forced to read them
online. However it is well worth the effort. I have filed the site so that I can keep up with what is going down over the next couple of days,
and for the summations later. Thanks again

Astrological Highlights for 2005

http://www.waterbearerastrology.com/

And anti-depressants and anti-psychotics are invaluable in acute situations, when the mind has suddenly gone so awry that the person is only steps away from disaster. Think of the person who is in deep psychosis, post-partum syndrome, sudden and deep grief. The person may be totally irrational, paralyzed by grief, tormented by sudden and violent delusion. Allopathic remedies can at least stop the worst of it and stabilize someone until the acute crisis passes and the patient regains some semblance of rationality and coping skills.

One thing you have to remember: a true healer wants what's best for their patient, no matter what method that is, and wants to prescribe whatever method is appropriate for what stage of illness that person is in.

Groups like Christian Science and Scientology have a stubborn, 19th-century approach to medicine: no scientific medicine at all is appropriate regardless of how well it works. Faith alone is supposed to do the job. But what is faith? It is one thing for a fully adult yogi, having lived a full life, and having the complete freedom of choice in any direction,to choose to use the mind totally in cure of an ailment. Such a person can live in that freedom of choice and live with possibly adverse consequences of that choice if it is unsuccessful or slow in coming. But these groups do not allow self-direction and self-choice. You must eschew the ministrations of a doctor, or suffer the wrath of the Thetans, God, or the dislike of your peers. If a person's own understanding says, "I need a doctor for this one", that person is laden with additional guilt and fear-fear of rejection of God and the group they cherish so much.

And in the 19th century, medicines often included mercury or heavy metals, unsanitary conditions, and brutal, invasive surgeries. Add, especially in the case of say, a Mary Baker Eddy, doubtless a lot of sexism and dismissal of women's ailments, there was at leas a rationale for avoiding scientific medicine as no better than home remedies that at least wouldn't poison you.

But as we know, medicine has improved. Except for horrific war conditions, hospitals are clean, women have entered the profession on all levels, creating a less sexist approach. Mercury is now found in thermometers, not medicine. And it is slowly getting a grip on even the most devastating diseases: There are now AIDS drugs that at least prolong the lifespan to something approaching 3-score and ten, some Cancers are reaching the "routinely cured" stages" and other chronic diseases are starting to be at least "managed" rather than a fast roll to the bottom for some people.

In the face of all of this, why then the stubborn refusal to acknowledge all of this? It isn't healing: it's control. Such groups need to have people listen and contribute only to them. If people are too ill and guilt-ridden, they may stay hoping: that the system cure they were promised is just another level away, or just a few more Bible reading away, or another year away. And the people keep donating all the while.

Is Chiron a wound we can't overcome?

http://astrology.about.com/od/archetypal1/f/chiron_p.htm

Your welcome, wv. There is a lot being expressed there. I knew you would be interested.

Jo. I don't think nuclear fission necessarily means bombs and destruction. The term probably came when scientists were experimenting, and as usual, men turned it into destruction. Critical mass has gone way beyond that meaning now and simply means the start of an unchangeable chain reaction. It's too late to change the use of that term. But I see your point. And it was interesting to see the derivation.

People are always alone in some way and misunderstood. It's a fact of life. We all experience it. That's why we're here. To bridge that gap and savour the moments when we do connect. Don't be too hard on us if we don't get it all. There is simply too much to cover.

I saw a film tonight called Aimee and Jaguar. A beautiful love story between two women in Berlin, one of them Jewish, at the end of the war. It's a true story, and a tragic look at war and ethnic purge. We are so lucky here to have our families who have not been lost to us in a way such as this.

Kiwijeanie,

I think the mutual reception is very important. There is a lot to say on the subject. I've been watching it closely and that's why I am also watching to see what The Saturn in Leo coming to oppose the Neptune will do. Saturn brings things into focus, and I don't think Neptune will escape entirely. It should affect collective perception.

Here is one of the reasons I love Arundhati Roy...she is not afraid of the truth.

http://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/print.cgi?file=/views03/0518-01.htm

It's all perception. People are going about their business as if nothing bad is happening because nothing IS happening in their worlds. They will know when it does. You can't force this. You can say anything to them you can think of and it won't connect if they aren't ready. If you perceive dangers, then you can unite with others that view it the same way and do something together. Everyone has a different threshold. It's always been this way. It's concentric circle. If you personify the good and live it as an example seperate from the bloody arena, one by one they start to sense something better. They compare. They question. And eventually will gravitate to what gives them the most reward. You can contribute the most by living your life the best way you can.

I cried tonight when they took her Jewish lover to the concentration camp, but now I'm ready to ally myself with the good forces that are just as much a part of the human condition, and not cower and wait for the ax to fall. It's fallen a million times, and I keep going forward.

wv, I love her, too. And she speaks these words with that beautiful lilt in her voice. Interesting combination.

BTW, Jo,

I agree with you on public broadcasting. I'm not shedding a tear. The real alternatives are gaining momentum. Quite quickly, in fact.

"...Advanced forms of biological warfare that can 'target' specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool."

Project for a New American Century (PNAC); Cheney, Rumsfeld, Perle, Kristol, Wolfowitz, Eliot Abrams, Jeb Bush, and John Bolton

"Specific genotypes?" Jo, what specifically does that mean? Certain gene-pools?

jm, you are welcome! Jo, I totally agree with you about PBS. I noticed the crap they were putting out about 2 years ago ... one of which was an interview with Karen Hughes right before the election. I gagged it was so bad and self serving. Absolutely disgusting. The good news is that you can tell you are "awakening" when you realize that you perceive the manipulation. I guess we're all just "fine tuning" our atenna's.

On another note, my brother is due to leave Bagdad today to return to the US after a year's tour. Cross your fingers for us ... it's been a rough year!

Wow, these posts are fascinating and top notch as usual!!!

JM--do you have a website? I wanna hear some of your music!!! I'm absolutely musically obsessed and have been since 1980, when I joined my first band.

(For anyone who's curious, you can go listen to some stuff from my last band, FATE, at http://www.page.to/fate--it's what they call "nu-metal" or "new metal", but rest assured I love almost everything, from Bach to some Eminem and Snopp Dogg. I'm currently on a Brazilian music/Robin Trower/Temptations/Beach Boys kick.... )

Namaste all, and white light....
(((Judi))) (((Pat QOP/Eric)))

Carol, I agree there are crucial uses of anti psychotic drugs for humanity. The problem now is the freely dispensed prescriptions of so may powerful and addictive drugs to so many, and the vicious circle of illness that follows for too many. The drug industry has truly become an "industry" which is more concerned with itself rather than the people it is suppose to help.

I have done the best I can to express this without writing volumes, but I know it is not enough to fully clarify the situation.

The federal government has been trying for decades to close down herbalists and older forms of medicine with raids of warehouses and lack of support to the point of refusal to cover people with insurance. We are being deprived of true healing and herded down the corporate approved road of healing. Doctors, nurses, and patients are suffering for that greed. Good medicine has been available for a long time, but public proof is withheld just as proof of renewable fuels success has been withheld to support the elite control of the planet.

Sorry, that link should be
http://www.page.to/fate

Marta, light to all of you!

Garry, I got some kind of an indexed site.

Garry, beautiful song! Which one are you?

Laurie,

I don't know 'exactly' what these Neocons were referring to... but given that they have selected Muslims and people of color, liberals and gays... as foci of their hate... I guess we have to connect the dots.

Namaste

In support of Pat C. and her posts on the Drug industry and the alternative medicines --- think back to the Greeks who having inculcated the sky gods of the invaders from the Steppes, set about to take women out of the healing process... Hippocrates forced midwives out of the birthing process... suggesting that the demons of menses needed to be controlled in the bodies of females. Then the witch trials --- which were really efforts to again prevent women from dispensing healing aids...

Now the FDA can do what previous efforts have done, more efficiently and without a public uproar (because the public doesn't know what is happening)... as Pat C. said, there's not enough space on this website to chronicle the things the federal gov't has done to shut down and prevent us having any control over our bodies...

Pat, I too think that homeopathy and other less "nuclear" approaches should at least be tried for situations where the stress level is no more than the usual "road bumps" of living, say a particularly stressful week at work, or a somewhat "low" day. As long as the person has the option to choose and full information to choose, that's fine.

The problem with Cruise's statements is that they fall too deeply in line with a philosophy that tells people who are deeply suffering that if they try to use the powerful "scientific" methods to heal, it's their fault. Such statements can influence due to his celebrity-and obviously successful status, less fortunate people who clearly need serious help to stop taking their medicine. These cults already have many cases of people encouraged to stop taking their meds and then committing suicide because they could not get better using the method of the cult. Not to mention so many more who lose so much of themselves that they despair ever "measuring up" to a standard that no human could ever achieve-or want to. But instead of blaming the method, they give into despair and then kill themselves. Cruise knows that if he "really cracks up", there may be a celebrity asylum awaiting him. What about people who need their meds to be able to go to work every morning and keep a roof over their heads? Cruise won't give them a room in his place, will he?

And from what I have read on the Internet (take it for what you will), Cruise is gay, and is being promised that the "tech" will "cure" him. Since psychiatry can't cure him, he (and the religion he espouses) blame the "psychs" for not doing so. Further more, his group's understanding of mental cure is fixed in the 1950's world of shock therapy and other similar techniques. Its as if the 60's revolution in psychotropics, group therapy, training in meditation and self-analysis, recovery groups, and the growing awareness of the links between diet and mood have passed them by. Maybe because these methods don't require scads of money to practice :)

My word, Marta. What joy to have him coming home. Our siblings are the closest things in the world to us, DNA wise. What a great way to celebrate Saturn deep in Cancer...having the family together like this. He's lucky to have you waiting for him.

Garry, Garry, Garry!!!! A MUSICIAN!!!!
I don't have time now but I'll listen and get back to you on this. Big subject.

Also, Pat C... my obsession in this life is metaphysical causation of disease and alternative healing. I want to get back to you on this, too.

You all are endless fountains of delight.

The "overmedicating" is one reason why I support what is euphemistically called "socialized medicine". Take the profit and sales pressure off of doctors, and more of them may well be able to prescribe methods based on efficacy and consumer choice. Alternative methods seem to do very well in places like Britain and France where they co-exist with allopathic medicine apparently quite peacefully. There medicine is based on pure science, not profitablity. A doctor could then simply point to an alternative method for at least minor problems that don't require heavy medical monitoring.

And there are midwives and home birth in these countries-alternative healers aren't seen quite so much as rivals in a system where a doctor is guaranteed a steady income.

Annie Proulx rides again! Latest book is "How the West Was Spun, reviewed in today's Guardian...

Of course it would take a female living in Wyoming (home of Darth Cheney Vader) to explain to us why we have a 'cowboy' in the White House. and of course you have to go to the Guardian to read her, because a) the article is lengthy --- even for a book review --- in the good ol' USA two to three paragraphs is the max you can write and have printed in a newspaper and b) well, it just wouldn't fly here, where 'manifest destiny' is gospel.

http://books.guardian.co.uk/review/story/0,12084,1513699,00.html

I'll be here jm.

Carol, you and I will just have to agree to disagree. My own observations and experience are my guides. These "alternative" medicines are powerful for much more than small bumps in the road.

Namaste

All blessings to the Guardian once again and to the person who enriched them to the point of not relying on adverdisers!

Hey all, on the FATE site I'm the second from left
with goatee, etc.

and now, read this: the man who can (perhaps)single-handedly refute the "official" 9/11 story(from Rense):

http://www.arcticbeacon.com/articles/article/1518131/28031.htm

Pat, I wouldn't disagree with you on that point. If something does work on serious medical conditions, and does for a particular individual, then they should be free to at least try that method without interference.

But the snake oil that Cruise is selling is that all modern psychiatric methods are wrong and harmful. They want nobody to have access to this treatment at all regardless of medical condition.

Cults don't want healthy people who may then walk away and live their lives the way they want to. So if a person gets sick, they must be doing something wrong, and must eschew medical help in favor of a technique. Think of the already accumulated guilts for not living up to a standard, the endless work, the stress of alienation, and then one comes down with a physical or mental disease that cannot be cured in the system, and which is beyond even the limited-and they usually are "limited" understanding of an emotionally crippled cult leader. Your sickness is your fault-and while you are blaming yourself for getting sick, you get sicker and sicker, and the leader gets richer and richer.

Big Media Interlocks with Corporate America

..."However, mainstream media no longer produce news for the mainstream population-nor should we consider the media as plural. Instead it is more accurate to speak of big media in the US today as the corporate media and to use the term in the singular tense-as it refers to the singular monolithic top-down power structure of self-interested news giants."

~snip~

New York Times: Caryle Group, Eli Lilly, Ford, Johnson and Johnson, Hallmark, Lehman Brothers, Staples, Pepsi

Washington Post: Lockheed Martin, Coca-Cola, Dun & Bradstreet, Gillette, G.E. Investments, J.P. Morgan, Moody's

Knight-Ridder: Adobe Systems, Echelon, H&R Block, Kimberly-Clark, Starwood Hotels

The Tribune (Chicago & LA Times): 3M, Allstate, Caterpillar, Conoco Phillips, Kraft, McDonalds, Pepsi, Quaker Oats, Shering Plough, Wells Fargo

News Corp (Fox): British Airways, Rothschild Investments

GE (NBC): Anheuser-Busch, Avon, Bechtel, Chevron/Texaco, Coca-Cola, Dell, GM, Home Depot, Kellogg, J.P. Morgan, Microsoft, Motorola, Procter & Gamble

Disney (ABC): Boeing, Northwest Airlines, Clorox, Estee Lauder, FedEx, Gillette, Halliburton, Kmart, McKesson, Staples, Yahoo

Viacom (CBS): American Express, Consolidated Edison, Oracle, Lafarge North America

Gannett: AP, Lockheed-Martin, Continental Airlines, Goldman Sachs, Prudential, Target, Pepsi

AOL-Time Warner (CNN): Citigroup, Estee Lauder, Colgate-Palmolive, Hilton

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0624-25.htm

Carol, we can certainly agree on cults. They commit the one thing I consider to be a true sin, the attempt to take free will and clear thinking away from another. It's a dark deed. We are now seeing it at the very highest levels of mundane rulers.

Maybe the potential "breakup" of PBS ends up to be a blessing in disguise. My town has a community radio station that is funded locally and uses volunteers to run it. What would happen if some of those groups now running PBS stations were to in the fallout, get ownership of those stations and start broadcasting on the same basis? It would be ironically enough cheaper-not having to pay royalties to broadcast national programs simultaneously. They could then buy stuff syndicated and broadcast them if the stuff is wanted there. What kind of programming would we get once those stations are freed from the National Republican Radio leash should give the Repubs second thoughts. Today, few people could go into a local PBS station and command even a quarter hour's worth of programming. But a community television station could allow every non-conformist creative person a video as well as audio outlet reachable, since it's on the regular broadcast waves (unlike Cable) to anyone in the local broadcast area who wants to watch.

Think of it. Local Music, Local Art, Local Culture, and underground stuff.
And for a cost that wouldn't keep a PBS station open for a week.

Jo, and to think that Congress is now trying to close down free access to the internet through librabies.

That sould have been libraries.

Kerry's Letter on Downing Street Memos
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/062505Z.shtm

Arandhati Roy's opening remarks to the World
Tribunal on Iraq...

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/062505Y.shtml

And what's worse, once the community themselves (the station is on a membership basis) own the station, the Republicans have not even the slightest leverage any more over what's broadcast. Air America syndicated TV? Indymedia Video? Alternative movies and video that would never pass the national network scrutiny? How about altenative religious programming? A weekly special on body work and alternative healing? Local filmmakers who now have at least a local outlet?

Two things come to my mind regarding the years 1947 and 1976. The first year, I believe, we had the "New Look" as people began to throw off the restraints of wartime living.The second, I remember, was the arrival of Disco, where the idea was to just have fun and forget it all. Both eras came after periods of war and turmoil, when folks just wanted to relax a little bit. Disco is coming back in a "revival" way. It hasn't had the same "band" revival as late 40's swing music, where people have moved beyond playing the old stuff and creating new stuff and new bands, but who knows?

Saturn in Leo is actually hard for authority. First of all, the personal cult nature of Leo is being lessened a great deal. People ignore the blustering and see nothing but more restrictions. Add this time around the idealism of Neptune, and the leaders may well shout into an empty room for all the influence they have.

Well, Pat C.,
The internet itself is in their sites... and folks who can't afford computers use the internet in libraries...

At some point, we're going to have to stand against the GOVERNMENT...

I think perhaps I'm becoming too radical for this site...

Carol, your suggestions about community TV are very good. I feel the same about NPR and PBS as I do the government... both systems are broken, infested with varmints. Usually when termites infest the structure, drastic reconstruction is necessary. I know of instances in the South where the entire floor of a house had to be replaced... oftentimes the owners chose terrazzo... rather than wooden floors.

We don't need 'leaders' (wooden floors), we the people are strong enough to govern ourselves (terrazzo) --- that's the only way we can get the varmints out, and keep them out...

I'm going now to supplement my canned goods and get more bottled water... it's going to be a long, hot summer... Cap'n Sally also suggests you boost your immune system. Pat C., you know all about how to do that.

Namaste

http://villagevoice.com/blogs/bushbeat/archive/001015.php

Morning Report 6/24/05
Rove Cleans Up
Bush regime's war on terror is feeble, but its war on Democrats takes no prisoners

Jo, in progress. Along with that, I am also trusting in my own destiny.

Carol, good ideas for broadcasting!

Carol

Most PBS stations buy their own programs - they
are offered some series by National - Nature,
NOW, Great Performances, Frontline, and the
children's shows and news, but all the British
comedies etc. are their own purchases.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976

More thoughts about these years: Wasn't 1947-the end of radio's dominance, and the lessening of the dominance of movies. Radio began sometime in the late 40's to move away from nationally syndicated programming in favor of local D.J's, as television began to rise. The "studio system" began to peter out in favor of more feature films and the beginning of individual contracts for stars that allowed a performer to move between studios and projects more freely. 78's begin to be replaced by 33 1/3 Rpm albums and eventually 45's, and we have a growing number of reel tape music available. Dr. Spock (the real one) begins to give advice that is more permissive and less structured than previous educators. Los Vegas begins its dominance and the booking of famous performers. And even those performers begin to move away from radio into more personal concerts and into the movies (Frank Sinatra)

The late 70's sees the beginning of the Walkman, Watchman, cassette tapes. No more bulky LP's! True portability in personal electronics-the walkman weighs no more than a pack of cigarettes and runs on batteries. No more winding tape spindles, the cassette tape can rewind itself. And personal electronics begin to be more than just entertainment-I remember buying one of the first calculators, and seeing one of the first hand-held computers by Radio Shack, where the memory and the programming were in little cassettes. Small portable color tvs begin to show up as well, replacing the old consoles that we remember from our childhood. Not to mention the rise of FM radio, and the boom in CB radio, and the first embryonic video games. We begin to see the first beginnings of cable beyond its role as providing network TV to places where the signal couldn't reach. You have TBS, and the growth of independent television stations programming old shows and old movies along with some local content. Drive-ins begin to give way to some multiplexes.

There's Ritalin, and natural chilbirth, and the revival of breastfeeding, and the revival of midwifery as something that is practiced professionally. There are the free and open abortion and contraceptive clinics, and "Zero Population Growth".

Well, Bill Moyers is still out there fighting and getting lots of face time. I'm rooting for him! I know he can use all of our positive focus.

Bill D. Moyers (born June 5, 1934) is an American journalist and public commentator.
He was born in Hugo, Oklahoma and was raised in Texas. Moyers began his journalism career at age 16 as a cub reporter at the Marshall News Messenger in Marshall, Texas. He and his wife, Judith Davidson Moyers, have three grown children.

But vw, how much of the programming is truly locally generated and locally funded? Where's the local community in this except for a few hours here and there. And no community group has control over programming and certainly no abilty to become a broacaster simply by making a proposal and committing themselves to the process of making that programming.

http://www.iwtnews.com/

Independent World Television

Please go and watch the video, it is a miracle.
Send $50 if you can.

This weeks celestial weather and dubya's Saturn return here:
http://www.kryon.com/inspiritmag/articles/index.html

Sorry, that's the general site of articles. Go to
http://www.celestialweather.com/

These crooks and Nazi like or even worse than Nazi
murderers-dimwit shrub,cheny,rummy,rove-all dispicable characters deserve execution or at
least lifer in the gulags, have the gall to question legitimacy of Iran elections(like kettle
calling the pot 'black') must first answer how these idiotic,imbecile, corrupt genocide perpetuators, war criminals stole the elction, not
once but twice here, as far as anyone with an iota
of brain is concerned.

http://www.freepress.org/columns/display/7/2005/1152

What matters about Guttermeister Rove is that he's evil ... and soon over June 25, 2005

The harder they come, the harder they fall.

The legendary reggae song says it all about the evil, soon over Karl Rove.

For years we've heard only of the GOP Guttermeister's "genius". But for all his alleged success, what matters most about Karl Rove's legendary career is that the world is a much worse place for who he is and what he's done. He leaves no legacy except pain and suffering, anger and devastation.

The gameplayers love Rove's uncanny mastery of the dirty trick and knife in the back, of the lowest common denominator and the perfectly timed smear. Gay marriage and flag burning, bigotry and fundamentalism, immigration and abortion....Rove's use of anything handy to divide and confuse has been peerless. No American better understands those ultimate fascist mainstays, the Terror Card and the Big Lie.

Rove began as a dirty trickster for Richard Nixon. He took the dubious George W. Bush and made him governor, then president, then "war president." He's engineered a near-absolute takeover of the American media and government in a ways without precedent.

He is kingmaker and coup master, the Prince of slime and sleaze.

But the substance of his legacy is unmitigated evil. His "genius" has produced only skyrocketing poverty and catastrophic deficits, a poisoned environment and a horrific war, a soiled global reputation and a twisted national psyche, a shredded Constitution and a polluted public soul. If Karl Rove leaves any enduring monuments at all, they are Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo.

More...

http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2005/1335

The DNC 2004 Election Report: An indictment of incompetence

The Democratic National Committee's investigation into Ohio's 2004 presidential election irregularities is the perfect postscript to the party's 'election protection' efforts last fall: it is a shocking indictment of a party caught completely off-guard in its most heated presidential campaign in years, and a party still doesn't fully understand what happened and how to avoid a repeat in the future.

The report primarily documents Jim Crow voter suppression tactics targeting Democratic African-Americans voters were rampant in Ohio’s cities during the 2004 presidential election. It cites and spends most of its time analyzing the most visible problems: from shortages of voting machines in minority precincts, to unreasonable obstacles to voter registration, to disproportionate use of provisional ballots on Election Day among new voters and Democratic constituencies, to inadequate poll worker training and election administration, to poor post-Election Day record keeping.

But the DNC reports says those factors do not mean John Kerry won the election, nor does it mean that the new electronic voting machines are unreliable – even though some of the precincts with the highest percentages of reported problems were outfitted with the new electronic voting machines, known as DREs. The DNC asked for access to the new electronic voting machines and their software, but was denied by local election officials and the private manufacturers. The report leaves the matter there.

More...

Carol... we have in Portland OR, KBOO... wonderful radio station that tells it all & that operates on a shoestring. No ads either! ;O)

http://www.kboo.fm/index.php

Jo-
Re you're being "too radical" for this site--I doubt it--not only are we liberal, but tolerant--and as for me, I'm a middle child AND an Aquarius, so there are few that are "radical-er"(is that a word? lol) than me.....I value your comments as does everyone here, I'm sure...

AP
WASHINGTON (June 25) - The Supreme Court ends its work Monday with the highest of drama: an anticipated retirement, a ruling on the constitutionality of government Ten Commandments displays and decisions in other major cases.

Amen to that, Brother Garry. (Btw, I really enjoyed learning about you and your previous band - it's great to put a face and identity on someone but I almost prefer it anonymous, it's more like souls communicating.)

There are a few roads to change. Sometimes you rebuild from within; sometimes y
ou walk away and begin anew. There's a time for everything, including being radical (I feel like I'm reading from the I Ching or Daoism.)

Has anyone noticed it appears that 2006 Happy New Year will begin with moon void of course?

A quickie before I go and come back again.

You're right, Sharon.

Radical comes from he Latin word 'radix' which means 'root'. That's what it probably means. To get to the root of the problem and irradicate it there. Violence and hate directed at an outside source as a solution is not getting to this root. It just begets more violence. The governments that violent revolutions install so often go the way of those they replaced.

Anybody have any ideas as to what and where this root is? I'll be the first to follow.

jm, I love looking to the origin of words. This is from one of my favorite sites for etymology, takeourword.com
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Believe it or not, this word comes ultimately from Latin radix "root", which is also the source of radish (Old English), among others. Radical dates from the 14th century with an obvious "of or having to do with roots" meaning. It was not until the 18th century that the political meaning arose, with the metaphoric idea of "going back to the roots" of a particular idea or issue.

The use of the word radical to describe the mathematical symbol which denotes a square root should be obvious. The chemical term radical may be explained by its association with root: a radical is a group of atoms acting as a single unit, i.e., rooted together.
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So, acting as a single unit is a radical - seems it is the fundies that now fit that description, not us. These days, we more fit the term heretic -from the greek meaning free thinker.
Fellow Heretics, we are in good historical company.

I'm actually very sorry to post this. It is so appropriate for this thread, and so tragic. The more things change, the more they stay the same I guess. They are getting more overt down south, and at least to me, there is no mystery why.

Man found hanging in tree in Wilkinson County

Associated Press
WOODVILLE, Miss. - Family members say a man found Friday hanging from a tree in rural Mississippi had returned home to fight for his family's land.

The body of 52-year-old Roy Veal was discovered in Wilkinson County, relatives said.

Warren Strain, spokesman of the Mississippi Department of Public Safety, said the body was discovered about midday in a wooded area of the county near Woodville. Authorities declined to identify the man pending notification of relatives.

But Doris Gordon, a Woodville native now living in San Francisco, said the victim was her brother, Roy Veal of Washington state. Thelma Veal, the man's mother, also confirmed the identity.

"They found my brother hanging from a tree with a hood over his head and some papers burned at his feet," Gordon said in a telephone interview with The Associated Press from San Francisco. "It's awful. We don't know who did it."

Gordon, who said she would be returning to Woodville as soon as possible, said her brother had returned to the family home in Wilkinson County "to help with a lawsuit pending against our family."

"There are people trying to take part of our land because they apparently think there is oil on the land," she said.

Officials at the chancery clerk's office in Woodville said a lawsuit pending in chancery court names several members of the Thelma Veal family, including Doris Gordon and apparently Roy Veal, as defendants.

Chancery Clerk Thomas Tolliver Jr., said the case involved title to land in the county and damages.

Thelma Veal said the lawsuit sought portions of land owned by her late husband and his brothers. She said her son had obtained a map of the property and was collecting documents to prove the family owned the land.

"Now they have found my son hung back there on a tree," said Thelma Veal, 79.

She said her husband owned more than 40 acres in the area southwest of Woodville and that it was being sought because it might have oil deposits.

There is oil production in that area of the state.

"My husband's daddy bought this land in 1926 and I've been here ever since I was 18," she said. "It's our land."

Strain said the Highway Patrol's Bureau of Investigation was looking into the circumstances around the death.

County Coroner Travis Sharp said he had not been contacted about the death and the sheriff's department declined any comment when contacted Friday.

http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/8502677.htm

PatC, soooo sad. I notice that this was from April of last year. Any ideas on whether an investigation into the murder continues, or has it been swept under the rug and forgotten.

To your knowledge Pat C, was Mr. Veal caucasian or African American? If it was from last year, I hope his family has been successful in proving ownership and I hope that justice will be done, in spite of the stereotypical reputation of the South. Such ugliness.

Iraq: The carve-up begins
Tom Burgis
Thursday 23 June 2005
As the costs of the Iraq occupation spiral, British and American oil companies meet in secret next week to carve up the country's oil reserves for themselves. Tom Burgis reports

In the driving seat: with so much clear profit at stake, the question of who owns Iraq's biggest natural resource is hotly contended / GettyThe Iraq war has so far cost America and Britain £105billion. But the financial clawback is gathering pace as British and American oil giants work out how to get their hands on the estimated £3trillion worth of oil.

Executives from BP, Shell, Exxon Mobil and Halliburton, Dick Cheney's old firm, are expected to congregate at the Paddington Hilton for a two-day chinwag with top-level officials from Iraq's oil ministry. The gathering, sponsored by the British Government, is being described as the "premier event" for those with designs on Iraqi oil, and will go ahead despite opposition from Iraqi oil workers, who fear their livelihoods are being flogged to foreigners. The Met will be on hand to secure the venue ahead of the conference.

"This is a networking opportunity for UK businesses involved in Iraqi oil," explained Dr Hussain Rabia, managing director of the consultancy Entrac Petroleum Ltd. "We have the moral support of the UK government. They're bringing the guys over from Iraq, offering them visas. We expect all the big oil companies to be there," he said.

Delegate numbers are described as "confidential". Shell spokesman Simon Buerk would not confirm that a representative of the company would be attending, but said he "wouldn't be at all surprised if they were".

"We aspire to establish a long-term presence in Iraq," he said. "We have been helping the [Iraqi] Ministry of Oil and engineers with training."

http://www.thelondonline.co.uk/theline/article.php?articleID=437

I'm imbarassed to say this, but I didn't notice the date. It was sent to me and I just didn't notice. So.....I went to Google. http://tinyurl.com/b422y So far I have found several articles, but all from 2004. For some reason this is going around the internet. I'm wondering if it has anything to do with the Supreme Court ruling on land grabs for private interests.

Make that now embarrassed twice.

What should be "embarrassed" are piggy pink anglo boyz gobblin' n' sloppin' at somebody else's trough, Pat C. But they won't. SOOOUUUUUeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!! SOOOUUUUUeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!! SOOOUUUUUeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

Too true.

Some time back, perhaps a month or two, someone posted a fabulous list of proactive things that we could start doing in our immediate circle of influence. If anyone remembers, can they either re-post, or point me to thread in which it was posted?

Things are so bad here with the global corporatocracy influence, I really need some help on things that I can begin here to start waking people up too. The current Minister of Finance has been telling everyone they should be putting all their money in the stock market. I happened on a live tv feed last week - the Labor governing party are drunk with hubris and behaving like kindergarten bullies. The Prime Minister even got evicted from the debating chamber for being severely out of order. First time that has ever happened.

I have a meeting with our local Member of Parliament, opposition party, tomorrow afternoon and am trying to get my thoughts in order. Thankfully, you wonderful AW's have linked me to so much information I am able to see the bigger picture that many are oblivious to. Any help here would be greatly appreciated.

Oh, that was me, Pat. ;O)

Here's a protest strategy, Kiwijeanie... have everybody gather wherever these killer PiggyCorpoPorkos gaggle up, & in unison do the Pig Call... real loud... over n' over! That'd be good.

Kiwijeanie,

That was a wonderful breakdown of those words. Thanks so much. I am always interested in word derivations. I have five dictionaries I use at home, and my house is not large. They are everywhere.

But 'heretic'? Oh no! Don't they burn those things?

The whole world is like a bad day at the zoo right now. I attribute this to Pluto in Sagittarius, which can be wild, unrestrained and reckless. It's the worst ride in the midway. Total the jeep. Get drunk and scream all night. There's no tomorrow. You know. Jupiter. That kind of thing. Jupiter can be a real badass. Raping, pillaging, and lording over the earth. It will calm down, especially when Pluto transits Capricorn and law and order will come eventually. You are wise to be thinking about proper government. It's forthcoming. Just to be engaging in this discourse is a great thing at this point. The answers will come over a period of time from this pool of ideas.

Pat C,

I can barely find words enough to express my joy at finding a serious alternative medical practitioner. I think this is one of the gravest problems facing the world.

We are at war with our bodies. This translates to interpersonal war and then larger conflict. Until we come to love them and care for them as precious cargo we can't solve the bigger problems. We're not taught to do this and I am on a crusade for understanding the emotional root of diseases and treating them in many, many nonpoisonous ways. I healed severe periodontal disease that way, but it took about 15 years. so it's a tough sell in this instant gratification world. My treatment cost about $40 a year.

I was a sensitive child and the smell of the pediatrician's office and all his piercing hurting weapons freaked me out so much that as soon as I could, I made a pact with myself to avoid the sado-masochistic rituals of the doctor's offices and the hospitals. It seemed psychotic to me. I said that I would see an allopath when I am dead. he can sign my death certificate. Until then, my body is my possession and I am responsible for its health and healing. And it's cheap. Of course, I am an extremist and I would never recommend this for anybody else, but that's the way I approach medicine. The antidotes to all our ills are everywhere around us. We don't need the drug companies.

Integrative medicine is the next wave... allopathic combined with alternative. It's where the money will be going and the powers that be can't stop it. Survival will dictate, as people will not be able to afford any other way. It's aleady happening as insurance companies are moving over. More money is being spent on research in this area. You are wise to pursue this. I think we will really see it take off as Pluto transits Aquarius. There are always people in the Amazon trying to extract the secrets from the shamans to varying degrees of success. The plants are the base of allopathic drugs, which are dispensed in poisonous doses by physicians here. Eventually they will learn to cut back, but there will have to be a contract with the spiritual forces. These forces will counteract the attempt to drug us and keep us down, if we are aware and willing. I try to raise the awareness of this as it is so important to me.

These alternative methods are part of the end of violence as a solution to problems and I carry the banner wherever I go. I'm with you completely.

Joanna LOL!!! I'll keep that in mind.
jm, when I said heretic, I was thinking about the likes of Martin Luther and Galileo. Despised and denounced by the rulers, their thoughts and courageous actions are the winners that history honors.
Forgot about the burning times, yet that serves to emphasize the evils groupthink can bring.
When you think about it, Jesus was the consummate heretic - he didn't follow the 'by rote' party line either.

I'm with you all the way on the "alternative" healing, jm. However, all my bodies are ME... no matter what spectrum of energy fields in which I exist. I have no way to split my bodies... so I don't. ;O)

My "physical" is not "other" as 4500 yrs of patriarchy would have me believe. They know it's not "other" as well... it's always THE physical of ourselves they attack! ...to hurt, maim, cripple, torture, burn, twist, yank, jerk, fill with poisons. There's no such separation of ungodly physical versus (at war) with godly soul/self either. It's one big Horror-Hoax.

Oh, c'mon, Joanna. 4500 years is just a teeny speck in time.

Hahahahahahaaaaa!!!! Not to me, jm... not to me.

jm, I'd love to know how you dealt with gum issue!

For anyone interested, here are some links that may be helpful.

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/

http://tinyurl.com/bwkba

http://www.homeopathic.org/crisis.htm

http://www.homeopathyworld.com/anthrax.htm

While I had always been interested in herbal medicine, I learned this form of medicine because I had no health insurance, and no mercy from standard western medicine. Vitamins, herbs, homeopathy, accupunture, etc, are all formitable medicines. Combined they are awesome.

The placement of Chiron in my natal chart probably made all this inevitable on my path this time.

Pat

The periodontists wanted to do full mouth surgery, extract four teeth, and do root canals and cut off roots of several others.
I have a vivid imagination, and while I was in the chair, I saw the periodontist grow fangs and start to drool. I got out of there and decided I would try something else.

First, I tried to understand how the disease got there. I came to the conclusion that it was years of backed up hurts collected around my teeth and wearing the supporting structure away. I felt it was related to issues of self and autonomy and personal power and potency. I used the Keye's method which is a solution of baking soda, salt, and peroxide. I used dental irrigating syringes to inject the solution into the pockets and kill the bacteria. It was a battle as they would move to new places and it took a long time to locate all the pockets. And when I was under relationship stress, there was less response to the treatment. It was extremely painful when I first doused the areas but after a while, it all toughened up. But the most important part was working on the emotional patterns behind it. After my husband and parents died, I decided not to give away my power to others anymore and I felt strongly that a solo journey was best for me. The healing really started to kick in then. And it still continues much to my amazement. My teeth tell me when I'm doing things right.

I was never in a rush because I always believed I could do it and the longer it took the more complete and profound the healing would be. I was against the surgery because they always take away healthy tissue just to be sure and I felt that would weaken me further. Plus I don't like others inflicting pain on me. If I have to experience pain, I prefer to do it myself. To be in control of it.

The dental professionals still can't believe it. The pockets are still there but there is no infection. I clean them daily with my solution and onward I go.

I've never had insurance. When I decided to devote my life to my artistic talent I knew money would likely be scant. So I knew I would have to live accordingly. To be strong and healthy and take care of everything I could myself.

There are so many, many, many ways to heal sicknesses. We are only limited by our lack of faith and knowledge of the alternatives. Homeopathy has always intrigued me. There are many more healers like this in Europe and the people have been using them forever. We are not obligated to these corporate madmen. We can break the stranglehold individually which I love doing, and I feel so relieved when I know people like you are practicing. Without us, these people are powerless.

The human body is miraculous in its power, potential, flexibility, response and innate ability to heal itself. I believe that disease is a navigational guide in our lives when we understand the patterns behind it and change our behaviors accordingly.
The body wants the best for us. It's smart. We should pay attention, and be very cautious about whose hands we put it in.(not everyone, of course. Some people can trust their bodies more easily to physicians. If they can afford it).

My stake in it is that if people around me were healthy and unafraid, then my environment and my own life would be better. So I am on a crusade.

I have another wonderful story for you. Next installment.

((((jm)))) Wonderful story! That formula is one I have seen so many people have great success with. Good for you!

Do you remember what the transits were when you made the dicision to empower yourself??

Really, Pat? You know about the method? I'm amazed. I'm so happy others are having success.

The decision came when Pluto was conjunct my South Node in Scorpio in the seventh house. Exactly.

BTW, you really brought a good point up. My Chiron is also in Scorpio.

So, I'm off to dreamland. Have a glorious day and I'll probably check in for a while tonight.

Thanks Pat for the inspiration. We will transcend.

jm, my Chiron is also in Scorpio. Heh. Timing is everything.

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Sunday June 26th 2005

Mars is opposite Jupiter 01-02 GMT.

This day also sees the peak of the triple conjunct of Venus, Mercury and Saturn in late Cancer. Two close planetary alignments today at 27 degrees Cancer.

Venus conjunct Saturn closest alignment 02-38, zodiacal conjunction 02-59

The Moon enters Pisces 03-04 GMT

Mercury conjunct Saturn closest alignment 12-20, zodiacal conjunction 10-59

The Moon is conjunct Uranus 20-52 GMT

Oy!

Tuesday June 28th 2005

A change of gear occurs today as Mercury and Venus enter Leo. Saturn will follow in 18 days time. The Moon also around the same time moves from a watery sign into fire. A crisis of a day!

'Hey babe the sky's on fire'.

Mercury enters Leo 04-02.

The Moon trines Venus 05-52 GMT and then instantly the Moon enters Aries. One minute later Venus enters Leo

Moon last quarter phase 18-25 GMT at 7 degrees Aries.

The Moon and Mars form a cardinal T-square with Jupiter and the Sun at the end of the GMT day.

http://www.alternet.org/story/22281

How Walter Jones Grew a Conscience

After some soul-searching about the war in Iraq, the North Carolina
congressman made one of the most staggering political about-faces
seen in Washington since George W. Bush took office.

Rep. Walter Jones with Marines stationed at Camp Lejeune in North Carolina.

In the heady atmosphere of war lust and post-9/11 New Patriotism
that subsumed Washington in March 2003, GOP House Representative of
North Carolina Walter B. Jones made a stand. Jones told the press
that he hoped his effort to rename French fries, "Freedom Fries," in
the House cafeterias would prompt visitors "to think of the thousands
of military members overseas who are there for you, for me, and for
the freedom of millions of people they never know personally."

It was the high-water mark in the Campaign to Hate France, a key
splinter project of the Let's Get Iraq effort.

Two years later, Rep. Jones told North Carolina's big daily, the
Raleigh News & Observer, that he wished the Freedom Fries incident
"had never happened" and that Congress "must be told the truth" about
the Iraq war.

Soon after, Jones stood with two of the most liberal Democratic
representatives in Congress -- Dennis Kucinich and Neil Abercrombie
-- and the Republican isolationist and libertarian Ron Paul to introduce legislation calling for the president to announce a
withdrawal timetable by the end of this year. In other words, Walter
Jones made one of the staggering about-faces seen in Washington since
George W. Bush took office.

More....

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