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Even as cynical as I am having a hard time keeping up. (Lili Tomlin) I am not among the ones who say "they don't like George Bush" I don't know George Bush to know whether I like him as a person or not. I do know however that I do not like his actions. Much like I felt about my kids when they were growing up. I didn't like some of their actions and believed they needed to take responsibility for those actions. So does this administration. It was a couple of years ago that I stopped keeping track of all the impeachable, illegal, corrupt, socially unjust actions. When the mountain has already been formed, one more pebble thrown, making it a higher mountain is just one more pebble. Tonight George Bush stood for one of his press conferences (In Prime Time) and the polls fell. Most of tonight's chart could be counted as a positive except for one little aspect I nearly missed and backed up by another. The Ascendant was in Scorpio and both rulers of that Ascendant were in an extremely weakened condition. Mars the natal ruler in the Chaldean system, was Void of Course at 28 Aquarius. Pluto the ruler in today's modern Western system was in essence debilitated because Mars had already passed the sextile and Pluto is Retrograde making no other aspect. Backing up the debilitation is Neptune and Venus in a square aspect, could be the people didn't even know what he was talking about and they didn't like the way he said whatever it was he said. The last aspect tonight's Mars made was to the US Moon representing the people, they just didn't like the tone of the conversation. I don't know about where you live, but where I live people have been in a very crabby and drifty mood. In fact, according to the polls at least 35 percent didn't even watch the press conference and of the majority who did, they didn't buy it. I think in the context of Social Security the US has made up her mind about Social Security and has decided they are being flim flammed, flumoxed, bamboozled, scammed, swindled, conned, in short "lied to." Could the behemoth of illusion suffered by a majority of Americans lifting? Saturn is within 2 degrees of the US Mercury, something is going to cause us to feel a national depression and we are going to be looking for something else to blame that depression upon. As for me it will be the upcoming Golf Tournament I working on, but on a National basis it will likely be our leaders at whom we heap our slings and arrows. Saturn on Mercury is such a dose of cold water and some misguided right-wing future utopia just can't warm a person up. CBS calls it "Smiling on the Little Guy" President Bush put a populist face on his Social Security plan by urging Congress to tilt the system to benefit low-income retirees of the future as part of a plan to shore up the program's finances. And Josh Marshall tells us what that means: http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/week_2005_04_24.php#005558 There will be enough birds on this plane and prays that it will fly but people are just too wary this year. While Mr. Bush was trying to get pigs to fly, Congress was cutting Medicare on the poor and handicapped. This "faith based" administration needs to read and study the Beatitudes, those are the guidelines left behind by Christ on how to treat our fellow man, additions if you will of the Ten Commandments. Saturn in tonight's chart was square the Nodes and will square for several days to come. Saturn square the Nodes is an opportunity to learn to grow but the Nodes can eliminate the opportunity to "understand" the lessons of this period. It would seem to me that watching what's ahead and making personal adjustments in order to gain the knowledge of this period. What is that old saying "hate the deed but not the doer." In the coming days and weeks ahead we need to remember that wisdom so that we may all rise above the bowels of the earth where some are trying to take us. Notes: M just sent me the information that an earthquake hit off the coast of Sumatra (6.5) Earth stability continues to elude us. For everyone who donated good thoughts, positive energy, money and even a computer for Claudia, thank you. I will be sending her a check from the pay pal donations and the donations I received here at home. A first class astrologer rides again. THANK YOU.
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Mike, the articles you are looking for (or the predictions) would be in the articles I wrote titled "Boomerrang" "Destiny" and "2005" I am certain Nancy made some predictions as well. I was listening a little to the spin on this speech and the pundits and find it hilarious. (I have Jupiter retrograde in Cancer and those people find strange things funny) The ratings of the print and News media are falling rapidly, the polls show that people are not happy with this administration (below 50 percent now) the polls aren't giving any marks to Congress (either party) they are all sitting up there in their own little world, talking and talking, shoring themselves up and slowly people aren't listening anymore. In USA Today even Katie Courac is saying "we need to get back to hard news." All of these people are basically talking to themselves and a few astrological and political junkies. Maybe it won't be long before we the people, stop being "The Truman Show" with the TV people and politicians becoming "The Truman Show." To steal a line from Jon Stewart "they don't know we are out here listening." Posted by: Sally on April 29, 2005 06:30 AMYup. Saturn rides again. I've been noticing the same malaise in the air. The TVs where I went tonight were off. I think the folks have reached their limit and the endless monotonous drone has lost them. 54% of the people polled believe he lied about WMDs, so I doubt very much they believe a word he is saying, nor are they even interested. That's hilarious. He's talking about investments in the stock market. Ha ha! No wonder nobody is buying it anymore. Or he suggests an alternative... Treasury Bills. Isn't that where the money is now? He is obviously completely out of touch with the people of his country, and the phony folksy jig is up. Thanks everbody from the last thread for posting the decidedly undramatic details. Posted by: jm on April 29, 2005 07:04 AMThat's a great picture, Sally. All the exciting glamorous media stars sitting around bored with no one listening. The people are headed over to the blogosphere where all the action is. Posted by: jm on April 29, 2005 07:08 AMSally, thanks. I'll savor those delights when I'm awake enough to enjoy them. I think the saying you were looking for is: "Hate the playa, not the game" but what do I know. Along with the besotted Guido, I'm convinced that people will latch onto "election fraud" and the comopanion "Bush stole the election" as their scapegoat. Let that percolate and add a few catastrophes and we're talking one pissed off public! Posted by: mike on April 29, 2005 07:35 AMSally, I am really genuinely sorry, but I guess I am just not karmically developed + progressed enough NOT to be really enjoying the pilot of the soon to begin series "The Downfall of Bushco", to start playing very, very soon on your local + national news networks, in the print media of all types, etc. Yep, although an astrological novice of the lowest degree, I have been a hard core political junkie for going on 40 years now (ever since the Barry Goldwater/Lyndon Johnson matchup... how's that for ancient American history??)and I can feel the very beginning of the end of this regime in every fiber of my soul and body. I believe the undoing all effectively began with the HUGE mistake of Bush's Rovian-inspired flight back to D.C. from Crawford in his pajamas that night (undoubtedly muttering "aw c'mon Karl, you know how cranky I get when I'm not in bed by 9:30!) to sign the bill to "save" Terri Schiavo. Non-religious fundamentalist/extremist Americans (still in the majority thank God!) saw right through that little sideshow with a laser. They also have now seen through/are beginning to see through/will soon start to see through: 1/Bush's plan to "save" Social security by destroying it. 2/ Bush's plan to destroy the U.N. through Bolton's nomination 3/ Just how corrupt, cynical, and hypocritical the DeLays and Frists of the world truly are 4/(Hopefully) How a self-advertised male prostitute with no journalistic background has had (documented by Secret Service record keeping) a large number of "sleepovers" at the white house even when no press briefings were scheduled (lets hear it once again for Republican family values!) 5/ And (hopefully) with the airing of the C-Span progam this Sat. evening re the "truth" about 9-11, just what really DID happen on (and immediately prior to) that fateful day (Thanks again Shylurker for the 'heads up'!) 6/ How the cynical huge tax cuts for the very richest Americans, combined with the out of control spending for the war in Iraq have virtually bankrupted the U.S. Treasury, while putting our future economic stability literally at the mercy of Chinese, Japanese, and South Korean central bankers, as well as OPEC. Of course this litany could continue forever, but I just want to say how very grateful I am to Sally, Nancy, et. al. for telling us in early April that "the next four months will be worth watching". Talk about your understatement!! Yes the pain and dislocation will be great, but for those of us who still harbor hope for a rebirth of REAL human values for Americans to live by, what alternatives do we now have but to speak out, demonstrate if we are up to it, and most assuredly "pass the popcorn..." Of course the list could continue forever Posted by: Grizzly on April 29, 2005 08:17 AMOver here in the Garden City of Suzhou things are changing. Enough trees have bloomed and the little rain today mean I can breathe again.The Lake they drained is full of a road interchange and it is almost impossibe to get out of this place and into the city to party. But approaching the International Labor Day Holiday we are having a continuning exciting visit from the Chief of the KMT. He has been to Nanjing and Beijing and will go to Xian before he returns to Tiawan. This is big doings for the first time in 60 years. Posted by: Betsy on April 29, 2005 08:57 AMinteresting - - Chalabi (the guy who convinced *et al that Iraq had WMD) was appointed interim minister of oil in new Iraqi govt. not exactly the outcome that *co would be looking for... Posted by: e on April 29, 2005 10:55 AMDid you know about Howard Dean's brother Jim? http://www.democracyforamerica.com/about.php Posted by: jm on April 29, 2005 01:07 PMBetsy, what happened to Joanna's posts, and my last one? Posted by: Jo on April 29, 2005 01:45 PMIn a documentary Dalai Lama is asked what he would do if an annoying, biting mosquito was on him. First time he'd shoo it away; Second time he'd shoo it away. Third time : Splat, dead mosquito. He also said of the Communist Chinese that he feels anger towards them , not hate. So anger is an acceptable emotion although some find it out of the PC realm so act nice while wearing a rage-smile. Or causing a disease inside of themselves. Being too PC gives mixed messages to the Universe. As far as I'm concerned this bug called * needed to have been splatted long ago except everyone's layer of victim /saviour saves his Tush everytime. Way too many times. Watched the Resident last night from about 8-15 EDT--thought he was going to start at 8-30 and was surprised to find show in progress. There was no back view so we didn't get to see the "prompt box" but I'm sure it was there. Anyone notice how often he started with "Thank you, I appreciate that question." Gave his handler time to find the boilerplate answer. Also when asked about the lack of funding for "no child left behind", the Resident said (twice) "some people are trying to Unwind 'no child left behind.' I'm sure his prompter/handler said, "undermine." Still, the Resident is getting pretty good with that earpiece since he can now go a whole hour. Been thinking about Pluto in Sag and Jo's comments on last thread about Neptune, Uranus, etc. These underwater earthquakes, plus tidal waves, and blowing up oil pipelines are all very Uranus in Neptune, aren't they? And what has been passing for mass media news, plus the blur between news/entertainment, and between reporting/propaganda, is very Neptune in Aquarius. I suppose Pluto in Saggitarius is religious rot. Posted by: Barbara on April 29, 2005 01:50 PMBush's sinking popularity... The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: Y'all 'scuse me... there are no missing posts... I simply posted to last thread! (Haven't finished my first cup of coffee!) bhakti, I agree... WV, sliding polls? or maybe more accurate polls? I will NEVER believe * had 50% of the vote Nov. 2nd... DU has a poster w/ more info on boy/toy scandal, sez Gannon just a small piece of the puzzle and my economic guru, Stirling Newberry has info on coming Republican Recession... also, the UK Daily Telegraph is calling Phony Tony a "Serial LIAR" in headline! (as goes Tony, so goes * ? one can dream!) --- stock up on the popcorn! tPluto is just getting cranked up in USA first House... into it's 5th of 12/13 years, and the dirt is flying... smell the stench? ------------------ That there is going to be another recession is a metaphysical certainty. We haven't repealed the business cycle, nor is there any sign that we've repealed human nature. The question is when is the next recession, what happens between now and then, and how bad that recession is going to be. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/4/28/124132/901 United Kingdom LONDON: Tony Blair's credibility was blown apart yesterday by the bombshell leak of the Attorney-General's top-secret legal advice on invading Iraq. It revealed that the Prime Minister persistently lied to Parliament and the public about the legal basis for the war. For two years Mr Blair has refused to publish the advice, citing confidentiality, while insisting the Attorney-General, Lord Goldsmith, was "unequivocal" that the war was lawful. Last night's sensational leak to a TV news station reveals the true reason for its suppression – it was full of warnings that the invasion could be illegal. It means the PM has not told the truth on the pivotal question: Was the war legal? The revelation came minutes after Mr Blair declared on TV: "I have never told a lie." http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/story.jsp?sectionid=1268&storyid=3037331 boy/toy ring comments on DU
Oops, forgot one... Billmon.org is one of the best blogs online, imo... he has some comments and commentary from others on economy... thinks USA is looking more like Argentina everyday... "...The analogy is imperfect in lots of ways, but it is worth remembering that Argentina had to pay more to attract financing from 1999 on even as an economic slump reduced its current account deficit." )Brad Setser) Exactly who would play Evita in this Argentine tango isn't clear, although maybe Ann Coulter or Jeff Gannon would like to give it a whirl. Brad DeLong has already converted the Argentine-scenario into a simple model. And if you want to know the mathematical equation for "well and truly f#@*ked," you can find here. Don't Cry For Me -- Yet -- Argentina I certainly wouldn't rule out the Argentine scenario, or at least, a kinder gentler version of it. Brad Setser points to a table in the back of a recent World Bank report that shows just how much strain the U.S. current account deficit is putting on the ability, if not the willingness, of the major Asian central banks to keep propping up the dollar and the U.S. bond market: more at link That Billmon blog is great, Jo. Lots of nourishment. I'm going to comb through it tonight. Thanks. Posted by: jm on April 29, 2005 02:58 PMI'm a little miffed that the time of the news conference was moved up a half hour but apparently that did not greatly affect the overall outcome. Thank you, Sally, for putting up an analysis so quickly and for capturing what so many of us must be feeling. I wasn't expecting the headline that ABCNews.com had this morning. It actually implies some criticism. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=714484 Posted by: Teresa on April 29, 2005 03:54 PMNeat, timely, concise article, Captain Sally. Maybe it's just springtime influence, but I too feel a shift in the darkness in which we've been enveloped for five years now. The future, I hope, is onwards toward the light! And, Jo, as for the role of Evita, why not Kindasleasy? Posted by: shylurker on April 29, 2005 04:02 PMShylurker, JM, glad you liked Billmon... Posted by: Jo on April 29, 2005 04:06 PMAnd this, Teresa, from the same article just gave me the first laugh (derisive) of the day. (quote)He pledged to encourage oil-producing nations to maximize production and promised to protect U.S. consumers. "There will be no price gouging at gas pumps in America," Bush said. He spoke on the same day the world's largest publicly traded oil company, Exxon Mobil Corp., announced that its profit for the first three months of the year had risen 44 percent to $7.86 billion from the corresponding quarter a year ago.(end quote) Nice take, eh? 44%? Sally, the mountain metaphor was terrific. Like you i've stopped counting. I need energy to counter the effects of this administration. Perhaps they do intend to manifest an armageddon. If so, i would rather be no part of it. Back to the garden. . . karen Posted by: farrout on April 29, 2005 04:17 PMMargaret Kimberley rides again! "The Fox News Pope" and a cartoon you don't want to miss... both at new edition of Black Commentator http://www.blackcommentator.com/ Posted by: Jo on April 29, 2005 04:52 PMYikes! ABC News wants to do a followup with me today on the interview I gave in December regarding Social Security. I wish I had never started this. And they want to do it when I have a lunar aspect to Mercury. Mike, WWGD (What would Guido do?) Posted by: Teresa on April 29, 2005 05:29 PMIf you can, rush over to salon.com, watch the 3 - 5 sec commercial and get a day pass. The feature article has a wonderful cartoon with it. It features Smirky in his little boat, only--unlike our little boats--Smirky's has sprung a great big leak. He, of course, is just sitting there looking p.o.-ed while his little boat takes on water. Slightly behind and to Smirky's left is KKKKarl, with his head poking out of the middle of a life saver, his arms cast high into the air in the "Help" gesture. Heh. Heh. Teresa, wonderful news!!!! Good on you and go for it, my friend! Posted by: shylurker on April 29, 2005 07:05 PMJo, and every one who's interested, Tom Hayden has written a very thoughtful letter to Howard Dean. He hits the issues solidly and offers the only solution I can see to keep the anti-war faction in the Democratic Party. Please read it and share your reaction: Hurray for Tom, Shylurker... I commented here at the time Dean spoke that I was disappointed... glad to see someone wrote and expressed the fact that millions of us are disappointed in his statement and its sentiments. Now, we'll wait and see what the good Doc has to say. or, we may start the Revolution without him, if he takes too long to respond! Shy, the reason * & KKKRove's boats are in trouble is that they never pick up and help anyone drowning... they're 'all alone' in their boats... and trying to 'row alone' --- just won't work, will it? Posted by: Jo on April 29, 2005 07:31 PMBhakti.... That was one hell of a rant! I absolutely loved it.....as I do our revered Dalai Lama....perhaps the most wise and evolved soul on the planet :-)) Posted by: Teg on April 29, 2005 07:32 PMYea, verily, Teg & Bhakti... let's put it another way that may bring about a greater clarity. For instance, a teen raped by "funny daddy" or "strange brother" shld just forgive the raper... but... um, not the behavior. It happens AGAIN! Oh, well... forgive &, of course, no forgetting... just stuff that unbelievable rage way deep down inside. It happens AGAIN! Now... she'll (or he) are still considered a "good spiritual being" if s/he shld... um, what? ...slap?!? the raper. Nooooooooo... I don't think so. What's required is putting down, as one wld with a rabid mad dog, the raper... at the FIRST incidence. Imo, of course. Posted by: JoannaOregon on April 29, 2005 07:49 PMI will just be glad to stop feeling as if I am the demented stepchild of the local prominent city mayor who has to be hidden from public view. A viewpoint as a Dem, I am sure, which many of us share.... SF Chronicle has a rightwing shill whom I have mentioned here before who is absolutely shameless in her rantings. Yesterday her column was about how the poor pharmacists who are denying women their prescriptions for anything to do with birthcontrol as an article of their 'faith' was therefore denying 'choice' to these pharmacists....UNGODLY! outrageous... Well, today there was 1/4 of a page of responses from people!!! yeh...I am hoping that suddenly, as the Bush ship sinks, that she goes with it. The things she has said over the years almost approach Coulter status. You've got a point there, Joanna. I think bhakti would give the slapdown at numero uno :) Following your analogy, After the 1st rape the poor girl's labeled a slut anyway, right? I mean "she asked for it, right?" So, by waiting and waiting, turning the other cheek (no pun intended), she becomes a full-fledged whore! in the minds of the ofender and co-horts, right? (that's what's wrong with male logic! imho) I don't think I'll ever be a 'finished product' -- sainted, that is... or Buddha... In The Grand Inquisitor by Fyodor Dostoevsky "...When the Inquisitor ceased speaking he waited some time for his Prisoner to answer him. His silence weighed down upon him. He saw that the Prisoner had listened intently all the time, looking gently in his face and evidently not wishing to reply. The old man longed for him to say something, however bitter and terrible. But He suddenly approached the old man in silence and softly kissed him on his bloodless aged lips. That was all his answer. The old man shuddered. His lips moved. He went to the door, opened it, and said to Him: 'Go, and come no more... come not at all, never, never!' And he let Him out into the dark alleys of the town. The Prisoner went away." 'Course that's Dostoevsky's take. Me? Well, Jesus of Nazareth kicked butt the first time, so the story goes... counter-intuitive to think he would not do it the second time around! :)
Rape is the oldest violence against women....and will be the last one conquered, I fear. Perhaps Florida will become the poster state for women 'putting down the raper' at first offense, as some but not all women will be able to carry weapons and use them since Jebbie signed the gun toting law. I'm sure however, that the legislature there didn't think about how many rapists will now bite the dust. 2 young single women were murdered in the East Bay (SF) in the last two weeks. The connection seems to be dating prison guards at a nearby prison.... I wonder if, as VCZ has said, if oxytocin will forever doom women to stupid mistakes....like putting up with violence against them.....it makes me so tired to think about it. Like thinking about this violent and misogynist administration.... Posted by: judi gemini on April 29, 2005 08:22 PMTeresa....can we read the first interview somewhere? or is it only in video form? congrats....even with a funny aspect to your moon.... Posted by: judi gemini on April 29, 2005 08:26 PMJo, don't know whether you saw it, I answered your questions re: press conference in comments of last article. And Mike, you have a couple messages there, too. heh heh Posted by: Lori on April 29, 2005 08:31 PMLori, thanks I'll go read now! Posted by: Jo on April 29, 2005 09:01 PMLori, THANK YOU soooo much! You answered all the questions I had and I didn't have to watch or listen to *... You did an outstanding job! Y'all need to backup and read Lori's commentary on *'s speech on the last thread... I think Lori you have a permanent job! Recording *'s speeches and press interaction... Fine job, thank you soooo much. Namaste Posted by: Jo on April 29, 2005 09:08 PMNot only that.....but the 'ho' is getting raped by a perpetrator who was probably afwaid and embarrassed to ask widdle bitty woman behind the drugstore counter for a condom! What's positive is that the mixed messages are getting to the concious level of the collective. With Pluto/Galactic Center together how can inner truth *not* come out? Waaaaay back on the comments jm made a comment that gave me a chuckle and brought another image to mind, a really funny image to me. jm said "All the exciting glamorous media stars sitting around bored with no one listening. The people are headed over to the blogosphere where all the action is." I suddenly had an image of all of them just talking to themselves (the politicians and media) while the rest of us are out working, playing, building a brave new world. How long do you think it will take them jm to figure out everyone has left the building. Posted by: Sally on April 29, 2005 10:15 PMThis morning when I visited AW none of the April 29 posts were on the last thread. So I reposted what I remembered of my comments re the Resident press conference. All the April 29 posts are up now and they are very interesting. Lori, thanks for synopsis. It is hard to follow content when watching for style, so was glad you read your notes. Posted by: Barbara on April 29, 2005 10:22 PMJudi, here's the link to the original interview I did. Posted by: Teresa on April 29, 2005 10:58 PMJudi, I'll try again... http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=337230&page=1 Posted by: Teresa on April 29, 2005 11:01 PMYou all are welcome, and gosh, Jo, thanks for the compliment! It will be an easy job. According to CBS' Bill Sheiffer last night, it was the first evening press conference in over a year, and only the 4th since the squatter started squatting! (there aren't many daytime press conferences, either.) And Barbara, thanks for paying attention to style. Yea, team! (Astroworld News: We report, you get your head out of the sand...or, uh, whereever it is...) Seriously, the people on this board are so informative and share so much information, and some great entertainment, and insightful opinion. This is a great resource! Posted by: Lori on April 29, 2005 11:42 PMThanks Teresa, reading the interview now....I suppose they are trying to figure out if you have changed your mind now? hahahahah..... My hair stylist (she's a rabid rightie, always speeding on coffee, can't get a word in edgewise, but man, can she cut hair) says - and I am on a job right now and can't check -that after you retire, should you go back to work as some do to make ends meet, that the social security tax you pay no longer applies to your benefits.....don't know if this is true or not. The Universe always seems to send along big problems to solve...like how are the smaller amount of people working going to pay for the huge amount of people retiring....and if Bill Clinton started to try to solve the problem, he certainly got way laid (so to speak) on it.... Posted by: judi gemini on April 29, 2005 11:59 PMJudi Gemini, One way is to remove the $90-something thousand dollar cap on Social Security contributions. That is, right now, people do not pay one penny toward Social Security on the amount of money they earn above the $90-something thousand dollar cap. In other words, they get a free ride! This is just one more example of how things are skewed to benefit the wealthy and super-wealthy. Remove that cap and make EVERYONE contribute their fair share and Social Security should be just fine. Posted by: shylurker on April 30, 2005 12:05 AMShylurker....That is absolutely right...... In the 1980's I made good money...but I was paying 48% out in taxes....that is quite alot. If things are reworked tax wise (first getting rid of rapacious contractors making zillions off the gov't) so that money actually goes to SS instead of $2000 hammers, I think people wouldn't be so resentful of taxes. BTW...friend sent an article on how SE Asia has become the go to place to have medical proceedures done....and not this country...as it is considered, medically, to be backwards and in shambles. And that is WITHOUT being a so called socialist universal health care program. Posted by: judi gemini on April 30, 2005 12:13 AMSally, that is so wonderful. That picture. I think these aging stars have known for some time that it's over, and they can't compete with the blogoshere. Television has been blamed for diminishing the picture making part of the brain in children, and I am overjoyed that we are bringing this back. That's one reason I left TV land years ago. Couldn't stand looking at them. I wonder if they'll be having pizzas delivered while they are waiting for something to do. Posted by: jm on April 30, 2005 12:14 AMI mean "affects". That's worse than a typo. Posted by: jm on April 30, 2005 12:40 AM http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,5182326-103677,00.html Posted by: wv on April 30, 2005 01:57 AMRaw Story is reporting that Italian press is reporting that King Fahd of Saudi Arabia is dead...put new light on why Abudllah was visiting B* last week....plus this: In scathing interview, Democrat says Bush Social Security plan won't help; Dubs Cheney 'ass kisser' WV....seems as if Polly Toynbee is writing about american politics.....that is if we are sure we actually HAVE elections, or do we have fixed ones? Posted by: judi gemini on April 30, 2005 02:27 AMPhony Tony exposed.... http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,5182361-103677,00.html Posted by: wv on April 30, 2005 03:02 AMIt's a game they all play... the boyz... they know he's a stinkin' liar... have known it... knew it when he swore before Parliament that there was WMD, that Atty General had issued a statement protecting the troops... (look guys, they're on the boat, they're pulling out! My friend across the pond is counting on us... there will be h#$% to pay if we pull out! Chin up now, there we are... not so bad, a lie here, a lie there...) Bloody bunch of liars... the whole lot! *, his father, his mother, his brothers... Tony, that Italian media king buying himself a PM job, or presidency or whatever they want to call it... same with the Aussies... boyz... lying, thieving bunch of scoundrels... throw 'em all out! Liars! [there, I feel better...] WV, If Goldsmith's opinion had been issued two years ago... Yeah, and if a frog had wings his tail wouldn't hit the ground every time he tried to fly! Liars, liars, lying bunch of liars... Posted by: Jo on April 30, 2005 03:32 AMThe economy is booming girls and boys, didn't the fearless leader tell us so last night? And you didn't believe? tsk, tsk.... lookie here... the papers are full of it!!! ['course, back in the reality-based world of the average American: "honey, break up the kids' piggy banks, and check under the cushions... we need more coins for gas to get to work!"] ----------------------------- Occidental Posts Record Profit as Oil Prices Rise NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. oil and gas producer Occidental Petroleum Corp. on Tuesday reported record quarterly profit, boosted by sharply higher oil prices during the first three months of the year. http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/breaking/breakingnewsarticle.asp?feed=OBR&Date=20050426&ID=4397617 ShareChat News: Exxon reports record earnings from record oil, petrol prices By NZPA It reported today that it had earned almost $US8 ($NZ11.11) billion in the first quarter. But the 44% increase in earnings came as oil-equivalent production declined almost 5%, underscoring long-term concerns about whether major oil companies are investing enough to raise their output. http://www.sharechat.co.nz/news/scnews/article.php/a29bf86d BP, the world's second biggest oil company, forecast yesterday that oil prices would remain above US$40 a barrel for the remainder of this year but said there would be no relaxation of its rules governing investment in new projects. The forecast came as BP unveiled record first quarter profits of US$5.5bn - a 29 per cent increase on the same period last year - thanks to the surging oil price. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?c_id=3&ObjectID=10122731 SHELL yesterday reported an "excellent" first quarter with a strong financial performance across its businesses. The oil giant, which reported the biggest annual profits in UK corporate history in February, said its income had risen by 42% to $6.7bn (Ł3.5bn) in the period. Reliance's Q4 profit jumps 62 percent:- http://news.webindia123.com/news/showdetails.asp?id=79732&cat=Business Superior Energy earnings rise sharply HARVEY — Superior Energy Services, Inc. (NYSE: SPN) today reported earnings of $17.2 million for the first quarter of 2005, more than quadruple the $3.6 million in profit the company recorded for the year-earlier quarter. For the quarter ended March 31, Superior reported revenues of $173.2 million compared with $116.5 million a year ago. http://bizneworleans.com/109+M5314d7b987e.html Unocal Net Income Soars 69 Percent on Oil Prices Unocal Corp. said Thursday that first-quarter earnings jumped 69 percent from last year on strong crude oil and natural gas prices, and a 5 percent increase in output.
BBC's 'Doctor Who' Show Parodies 9/11 Inside Job http://prisonplanet.com/articles/april2005/290405doctorwho.htm Posted by: Jo on April 30, 2005 04:08 AMJo....the oil companies are getting what they paid for..... There is also that loophole in the bankruptcy bill, which is still in the new one.....all execs get to keep their bonuses, even when the company declares chapter 11...Polaroid gave its executives up to and including 12 million to the CEO before the filing...awww....I remember now, PG&E did the same thing after Enron & Lay and Company gamed California's electric system (it cost Grey Davis his governorship)...anyway, in the case of Polaroid, the shareholders got $47 each out of it, or what one guy called, the pizza benefit. .....take you wife out for pizza after you get the check. and here is a review of the new movie which got rave review from the SF Chronicle: Documentary. Directed and written by Alex Gibney. (109 minutes. Not rated. At Bay Area theaters.) Take the audiotapes that director Alex Gibney features in "Enron." The recordings, made during the height of California's energy crisis in 2000 and 2001, reveal Enron traders gloating as they shut down perfectly fine power plants in a bid to raise kilowatt prices -- and their own profits. One trader hears about wildfires that are engulfing state property (including power lines that, if burned, would raise kilowatt prices even more), and says, "Burn, baby, burn!" Another says, "That's a beautiful thing." Gibney obtained the audio from the Snohomish County Public Utility District in Washington, whose lawyers secured them in an Enron-related lawsuit. The tapes, whose contents have been previously reported in dribs and drabs, are damning evidence of Enron's immoral practices, which fueled California's rolling blackouts. Another coup by Gibney: getting major players in the Enron debacle, and those heavily affected by the corporation's ruthlessness, to speak frankly to the camera. Among them is former California Gov. Gray Davis, who was arguably deposed by the shenanigans undertaken in the name of Enron Chairman Ken Lay and chief executive Jeff Skilling. With a dose of incredulity that humanizes him, Davis rips the Federal Energy Commission (whose chairman owed his job to Lay) for failing to intervene early on in California's energy woes. Bush also failed to intervene, setting the stage for Arnold Schwarzenegger's gubernatorial run. Asked whether Bush and Lay had a political agenda to blame Davis for the state's energy woes, Davis says, "Hello?" Though much of what's in "Enron" has been previously reported by books and print media, and the movie is based on "The Smartest Guys in the Room," the best-selling work by Bethany McLean and Peter Elkind, Gibney's film takes all this info and ratchets it up 10 notches. Gibney mixes in old clips of Lay and Skilling, then adds darkly humorous touches, such as having the Dusty Springfield song "Son of a Preacher Man" play in the background as we learn that Lay's father was a Baptist preacher. (Another darkly humorous segue: juxtaposing the money-grubbing culture of Enron with old black-and-white clips of the Milgram experiment -- the Yale University exercise that suggested that people would zap others to death if motivated by money and pressure.) Gibney lets Lay and Skilling hang themselves with words that are oh-so- ironic in retrospect. Lay: "Enron is a company that deals with everyone with absolute integrity." Skilling: "We're the good guys." Americans were taken for a ride by Enron. This film lets us sit back and see how it all happened. There will be lots of seething at the sight of it all, but there are enough good laughs to make the experience more than worthwhile. -- Advisory: This documentary has brief scenes of nudity. -- Jonathan Curiel Here's another lie (besides 9/11)... the shock 'n awe on Baghdad 19th of Mar 2003... those bunker busters military used... they are a nuclear weapon. Stripped of the deep penetrator shell, a bunker buster is a tactical nuke, able to destroy a small city. Also note that other articles have confirmed the use of these bunker busters during the invasion of Iraq, which means the US has used nuclear weapons in an unprovoked attack against Iraq, under the false claim that Iraq had nuclear weapons. And now we are selling the little nasties to Israel, supplying them with nuclear weapons. ------------------------ Bunker-Buster Bomb Plan Won't Work, Study Finds http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/04/28/MNGM6CGNBO1.DTL&type=printable And you volcano watchers were right on.... Report Urges Increased Volcano Monitoring Volcano Threat Report: pubs.usgs.gov/of/2005/1164 Posted by: judi gemini on April 30, 2005 04:20 AMMilitary spouse diary at dKos... will make you weep... http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/4/29/134041/288 Posted by: Jo on April 30, 2005 04:44 AMdiary of speech by 9/11 widow: "I am honored to accept the Ridenhour Truth Award and I accept it on behalf of all men, women and children who have sought Truth in their lives, including the four women---Mindy Kleinberg, Lorie Van Auken, Patty Casazza, and Monica Gabrielle--who fought along with me to seek the truth about 9/11. I am humbled by the ceremony of this award, and I accept it also in honor of my late husband, Ron Breitweiser." http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/4/29/133637/863
from the Outrageous Outtakes at The Nation: ** ExxonMobil CEO Lee Raymond recently admitted that his company--number two on the Fortune 500 list, with $25 billion in cash on hand--has so much money they don't even know how to spend it. The energy bill recently passed by the House, which gives $8 billion in tax breaks to the very people who are profiting from a surge in gas prices, will make Exxon even richer. "Each dollar jump in the price of a barrel of oil adds another half billion in earnings," writes Fortune magazine. "If oil simply stays where it is now, Exxon's cash could approach $40 billion in 12 months." Instead of investing some of that largess into developing alternative energy sources, Exxon has pumped $8 million into forty bogus think tanks perpetuating the propaganda that global warming is a hoax and "could actually save lives." Actually, it is called The Daily Outrage....at The Nation Posted by: judi gemini on April 30, 2005 05:03 AMPeople all over the world are suffering from the ravages of war, disease, unemployment and starvation, and all the greedy, cowardly executives of Exxon and other Oil companies can do is rub their hand in glee over their endless profits that they claim they don't even know what to do with! These guys really, really make me sick. When the revolution comes and the people finally take back control of the country, they need to immediately revoke ALL major corporate charters, seize their assets, divy them up and sell them off on eBay. And while they're at it, freeze every CEO account in this country and claim it for payment of our debt. The proceeds probably won't even put a chink in our national debt by that point, but it would be a major step towards a new beginning. Posted by: NEOBuckeye on April 30, 2005 06:15 AMI hate to say this, but during Bush's speech I felt almost sorry for him. My intuition tells me that Bush is truly ignorant of what is really happening. This DOES NOT mean I excuse him of his behavior, but I just feel that this is the end of the administration's hold on the American people. Bush the other night was just grabbing at straws, such as mentioning esbestos loses. LIke that is going to save business? Also, after looking at Saturn tranists in his loaded 1st and 12th houses, I see that Bush may not finish his term in office. Especially with tSaturn transiting his nPluto, this signifies death issues (especially in the 1st house). Does anyone see this as well? Please, I would like some feedback on this. Posted by: Travieso on April 30, 2005 09:47 AMI hate to say this, but during Bush's speech I felt almost sorry for him. My intuition tells me that Bush is truly ignorant of what is really happening. This DOES NOT mean I excuse him of his behavior, but I just feel that this is the end of the administration's hold on the American people. Bush the other night was just grabbing at straws, such as mentioning esbestos loses. LIke that is going to save business? Also, after looking at Saturn tranists in his loaded 1st and 12th houses, I see that Bush may not finish his term in office. Especially with tSaturn transiting his nPluto, this signifies death issues (especially in the 1st house). Does anyone see this as well? Please, I would like some feedback on this. Posted by: Travieso on April 30, 2005 09:47 AMI hate to say this, but during Bush's speech I felt almost sorry for him. My intuition tells me that Bush is truly ignorant of what is really happening. This DOES NOT mean I excuse him of his behavior, but I just feel that this is the end of the administration's hold on the American people. Bush the other night was just grabbing at straws, such as mentioning esbestos loses. LIke that is going to save business? Also, after looking at Saturn tranists in his loaded 1st and 12th houses, I see that Bush may not finish his term in office. Especially with tSaturn transiting his nPluto, this signifies death issues (especially in the 1st house). Does anyone see this as well? Please, I would like some feedback on this. Posted by: Travieso on April 30, 2005 09:48 AMSorry for the three entries. Some computer issues. Posted by: Travieso on April 30, 2005 09:49 AMI think so too, Travieso. That this is the end. But to me, Bush has always been this way. Completely disconnected, with a severe learning disability and mental illness. It's just that the country seems to be aware that we have to wake up, get serious, and get going. Big problems to face. I'm not waiting for anything specific to happen to Bush. It really doesn't matter to me. I've always though he was suffering plenty. All through his life. And that he was a symbol of our society's disease. I mostly want all of us to leave him behind and think about other things. Think about what constructive things we can do. Posted by: jm on April 30, 2005 10:15 AMI was just looking into why I think this weekend has been important. And most important... This discussion of this administration's 911 "alleged" crime against the people of this country is going into the air waves at 10:30 EST time today. If we were in real danger, this couldn't happen. It would be considered treason. It really is quite amazing when you think about it. An open accusation on national television(so I hear). I'm wondering if the terror hoax no longer has the stranglehold it did causing all those countless horrors. I thought the tsunami washed that away being exactly on the 911 Gemini Moon degree. The only specific thing I found today was Mercury returning to the degree in which it went retrograde. I always thought this Aries cycle with the eclipse was bringing a change of direction and a new beginning. Mars is just about to go into Pisces, though, so it might take a minute. Posted by: jm on April 30, 2005 11:29 AMI am so sick of the word, "profits." There're a few other words, too... "bush," "republican," & "torture." And, I absolutely detest being "lied to." And how many more decades will we allow being subjected to resource- & time-wasting endless bizarre circuses by mega-narcissistic "rulers." ;O) Posted by: JoannaOregon on April 30, 2005 01:28 PM
The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: http://www.booktv.org/General/index.asp?segID=5677&schedID=343 The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions Author Bio: David Ray Griffin is professor emeritus at the Claremont School of Theology, where he taught for over 30 years (retiring in 2004). He has authored or edited over two dozen books, including "God and Religion in the Postmodern World," "Religion and Scientific Naturalism," and "The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions About the Bush Administration and 9/11." Posted by: Pat C on April 30, 2005 02:58 PMIf * was just 'left behind' for us to move on (to what? shopping?) most of the world would walk around with a rage smile. I'd want justice, war crimes trials, Bushco taking responsibility and accountability for their actions and their lies and their greed......on an on. What losers. There is cosmic justice people: Let's hope that this is a prelude in the microcasm to what's in store for The Chimperor in the macrocasm. One of my cousins at the seder told me that her husband (my blood first cousin) is a big Rethug. Found out he works for gun manufacturers and is by far the biggest victim Drama Queen I ever met. Not screwed in tight, gets emotional and weepy alot and is always telling us of his problems. Not the brightest bulb either. I can hardly look at him anymore. His wife who likes Hannity told me she'd want the US to drop the bomb on Iraq and get it over with. Greetings to all. I like visiting this site and reading what all of you have to say. A good portion I don't understand at all but I enjoy your community spirit. I have been bitten by too many mosquitos in my lifetime, just turned 60. So I don't hate Bush but I do hate everything he has done to our Country. We let him "keep biting". It does no good to say,"if he really won the last election" - he is still biting! If I see a mosquito, I smash it before it even lands on me. We need to fight Bushco before they bite us again. Posted by: NC on April 30, 2005 03:23 PMTravieso, the first time GWB's Saturn went over his first house cusp he was 1 year old and I don't know if there was an accident then or not. The next time Saturn went over the 1st house Cusp of his chart was in 1976 and he was picked up for drunk driving and that record has mysteriously disappeared, along with his drug records. So this is the third time his Saturn is going over his 1st house cusp, and it is a difficult transit but doesn't necessarily point to death for him, but it does place pressure on his finishing his term in office. He does have some sextiles to that Leo in the 1st house, so it also gives him some opportunities to pull out of this increasing funk and lack of enthusiasm (and it shows) for the job. I would look more to Uranus opposing his Mars with Mars being the ruler of the 10th house and 8th (in his progressed chart) Also Saturn is squaring his 10th house now and the pressure is increasing on his 10th (Mid-heaven) But Saturn on Pluto will always affect a generation of people and you want to look to the placement of Pluto and the aspects to Pluto and aspects to 4/10th and 2/8th in the natal and progressed charts. Some astrologers predict "death" but I don't because it shows up as transformation in a natal chart and there are many transformations in our life. I do think he has placed himself in a very difficult position and lots of people flat out want to see him gone by hook or by crook. Posted by: Sally on April 30, 2005 03:54 PMBhakti, it would have been worth the price of admission to see you go after those people. I just laughed at the thought. NC I couldn't agree more, get that "mosquito" away from us, swat it out of this country. Posted by: Sally on April 30, 2005 04:09 PMBhakti....wow....you rock, woman! I really hope that this spreads over amurca like the flu, this wiping off of the rage smile....these poor excuses for humans need to start running.... Your description of your RWinger family members fits several of my friends and one of the married into family (nuke the Iraqis)....the only reason I haven't gone nuclear is my daughter......I won't embarras her. But I have a friend who fits your male cousin's profile, and it might seems strange that she is a friend, but I am also against the death penalty since I belive people can change ....and over the last 10 years I have wiped off my rage smile and spoken up. I once listen to the limbaugh bull poo coming from a group of her friends (I do work for her CHARITY) and stood up and said I'm a democrat and a reasonable person, and I can't listen to this crap anymore and left... All we can do is take our stand. a friend sent this by email this morning....seems like a perfect ending: How improvident of the Almighty to limit man's intelligence, without -- Konrad Adenauer Travieso, jm, about Saturn return or Saturn aspects.....don't know if this counts, but I was born (as I have posted upthread) with Saturn conj. the Sun at 16 Gemini. I was breach; overdue; my mother was 'older' -34-the docs couldn't get me turned around (I was stuck, which condition I actually relived in therapy with Extasy!), so they did a Caesarian....in Honolulu, in the middle of WWII, and in a few hours after I was born, a blackout condition....when the populace still thought the Japanese would invade. My mother was sandbagged for 6 weeks after, and she wasn't producing milk....so I was starving to death until the docs caught it because of weight loss. No one had enough food to eat then, as everything was rationed. Lets see....what else does Saturn bring? Posted by: judi gemini on April 30, 2005 04:55 PMOMG, Judi. I was squirming just at the breach part. What a story. I do remember Saturn crossing my ascendant the last go round as one of the worst times of my life. I felt like I was in that Edgar Allen Poe story where the walls kept slowly closing in. And the people above me where ever I lived cracked the floor like gunshots all the time. I thought I'd never get out of the war zone. I find Saturn to be relentless. It seems like you have a lot of struggle, Judi. Do you attribute that mostly to your Saturn/Sun? Do you feel pride in your ability to endure? Posted by: jm on April 30, 2005 05:16 PMI was stunned by Rev. Griffin's speech on 911 just concluded on C-span. It's the other side of Pluto in Sagittarius. How he talked about our morality in the face of this incredible violation of everything that religion teaches. How he spoke the truth without compunction. How he just accused this government of murdering its own people. And with such softspoken dignity. And clarity. jm....well...I don't remember all of it....it is just what I was told (and with my ascend at. Scorpio 0 deg. it also signifies a place where surgeons, scapels are used! I think that is funny too)....however, the Saturn returns have been somewhat brutal. I have Uranus/Sun/Saturn in the 8th....it tends to be about getting ill with something which is sudden (impacted wisdom tooth which the doctors said would never happen flared up and infected my entire body and I didn't eat for 2 weeks except chicken soup broth) and then death of my relationship, being a single mom and trying to support myself (some career death again), and then a move to another state plus drama galore (10th house Venus/Pluto/ Moon and north node and Chiron in Leo). That was when I was 28 or so. The last one (3 years ago) was when Pluto was at 16 Sag opposing the Sun/Saturn and that was my birthday and I got shingles that day. I was taking care of my mother and it escalated into awful strain, so I had to ask the county for help with her. (other people's money - 8th house). As for me surviving....Mars in Aries did it.....it is the only planet in the personal side of the chart, and it saved me. We need to look at what has saved Georgie boy, and I do believe it has to be Jupiter (wereas my Jupiter is semi square my Sun/Saturn, so I get struggle there, also) I too sometimes feel sad for Georgie boy on a personal soul level....but he has survived and prospered at other's expense, so what you feel for as the child becomes....a mosquito you have to swat!!! great imagery. I must ad that last year (2004) with the Venus/Uranus eclipse on June 7/8 (my birthday), I felt the most overwhelming sense of ....what ? Unfamiliar GOOD VIBRATIONS! I wanted it to go on forever....it lasted intensely for about 18 hours. But it changed me....I am in a different space now. And I still feel the vibe, but not as intensely. Did anyone else feel that? How did that transit affect the bushster and others? that is an interesting question.... Posted by: judi gemini on April 30, 2005 06:14 PMjm....excellent imagery also, using Poe's story....I think we all responded to Poe because of the difficulty in most of our lives which creates, in turn, sensitivity of a good kind. I am working all weekend and won't be able to view Griffitn's speech...but thank you for the (also) excellent review of same, jm... Posted by: judi gemini on April 30, 2005 06:17 PMjm, I am relieved. Finally someone speaks out on television, with dignity authority, and sophistication. Posted by: Pat C on April 30, 2005 06:21 PMPat C....did you watch it then? judi, yes, and I recorded it as well. He is a wonderful taste of reality vs the rabbit hole. Posted by: Pat C on April 30, 2005 07:00 PMthen it sounds as if this man is the real "Benedictus".....speaking well.... Posted by: judi gemini on April 30, 2005 07:36 PMI have some bad news. I got rejected from every single law school I applied to. I have come to the conclusion that law school was not meant to be for me, at least not right now. In the last few months I have been undergoing some radical shifts in the way I see myself...more than that, in my own foundation. One of the things I have concluded is that I have been trying to prioritize my intellectual abilities, often at the expense of my creative abilities. I have used the latter in service of the former, and it turns out that what I really enjoy is when I do things the other way around...when my intellectual abilities serve my creativity. Right now I am working at a clothing store in the Dallas area, and I have discovered that I have a talent for fashion and for selling mens clothes. As a result, applied for a job at a VERY HIGH END, well known department store. I had my second interview on Thursday, and should be hearing from them early in the coming week. That said, I do not feel bad about not going to law school. I only fell bad that I got so many rejections. Whatever the reason, it was not meant to be. Posted by: Dave on April 30, 2005 10:17 PMDave.....I'm an attorney, so your post hit home. I got to law school quite by mistake. I took the law boards on a dare and to my shock, got paid to go. Howsomever......despite being good at it, I ended up having a lot of philosophical pain from it. And now would give a lot to have taken another route. You may just have been given back a few years of detour. It may just have been a great gift. Besides, there are far too many lawyers already. I don't think it's that good for society Lol. Posted by: Teg on April 30, 2005 10:31 PMDave, so darned proud of your attitude! Something quite special is in store for you, of this i'm sure. What's magnificent about your story is your openess to all possibilities despite rejection. Perhaps it is BECAUSE OF the them that you will tune in to something far more gratifying, more fulfilling then law school. karen
I believe the Griffin speech will be rebroadcast on C-span. I urge everyone to see this, and spread the word. I was affected to the marrow by Reverend Griffin. One thing so vital to realize is how little attention is payed to the gentle and softspoken souls, even though they tell brutal truths. They are passed over in favor of the loud, prurient, fearproducing, ominous ones. The daily horror show. His group is an interfaith organization, Moslems included, assembled to use the 911 incident as a way of uniting in an attempt to use our human selves in an ethical and moral way. It is deeper and bigger that just catching the criminals. The evidence is blaring at us. It is an awakening to become aware of our potential for good in the face of this great human lapse. If we do that, I think, we will succeed. Posted by: jm on April 30, 2005 11:40 PMDave, I am a lawyer who has been practicing for over 20 years and has had a wonderful, rewarding career. I didnt think that could ever happen because the first time i took the LSATs i did horribly, probably because it meant so much ------ My husband, who is also a lawyer, insisted that i take the test again. Since I had already gotten a not so good score; i didnt have the pressure i had the first time and had nothing to lose; so it was a lot easier to take it again. i did so much better i could have gone anywhere. Getting into law school, fortunately or unfortunately, has more to do with your LSAT score than anything else. It is an objective test that ranks everyone taking it all over the country on the same questions and scoring. Inflated grades in undergraduate are put into perspective by the LSAT; that's why they carry so much weight. Look into the schools you really want and see if they will (a) take the best score, (b) average the scores or (c) will only take the first score. Obviously, if the first two are in effect, you would want to take the test again. I highly recommend taking an LSAT review course. You may find some on-line. But you need to first find out which ones really prepare you. Find out from first year law students (if any law school is near you) what review course they would recommend. If there is a law school near you and you dont know any students, go to the bookstore that sells law books and find out if they know of a good review course. If there is no law school near you, call the SAT or MCAT review courses and see if they can recommend something. The LSAT has to be what is causing the problem. Please give it another shot. The law needs informed, intelligent,thoughtful guys like you. I dont mean this to put down the creative path that you find yourself on - - creativity is so rewarding (and, believe it or not, very compatible with law). If you decide to put the law aside for something that makes your heart sing, you really cant go wrong. But, as this board is so fully aware, we have such problems today. The public is being influenced by the repubs irrational anger at and disrepect of the law and the lawyers and judges who are effecting and enforcing it. We need people like you to counter that. Best of luck to you in whatever you decide. I am sure you will do well. Posted by: e on April 30, 2005 11:47 PMOh Dave, Bhakti, The word online is King Fahd is dying... he has slipped out of consciousness, may be brain-dead or clinically dead (on life support?) --- you will recall Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince Abdullah's visit to the United States this week to discuss oil matters with * at his 'ranch' in Crawford... there appears to be some behind the scenes manuevering for his successor... Marjorie Orr has a chart on SA, and states written July 2004)the following: "...More immediately, Saturn will from July to September 2004 oppose the national Sun, Jupiter and Saturn which will bring a sobering sense of reality, cash cutbacks and partnership tensions into the open. January, and late May/early June 2005, will see the return of Saturn opposition to Sun and Jupiter, which will not be an exuberant time. There will be a sense of national gloom, even mourning, with money in shorter supply. Then Saturn moving into Leo opposes Mercury (August 2005) and Mars (October 2005) which will be discouraging and accident prone, frustrated and angry." There is more at her site. Speculation has been rampant online for the past year with regard to the House of Saud and its future, esp as it relates to USA... you know of course of the close ties between the * family of liars and the House of Saud. Here are links to news re dying King and Orr's article. Would like to hear views of others here. Namaste http://www.star4cast.com/index2f.asp?page=home%2Easp http://www.adnki.com/index_2Level.php?cat=Politics&loid=8.0.159874842&par=0 Pat....you know, my daughter went thru that....she has a friend whom she had been friends with for 10 years....she was raised by Democrats....but she married her boyfriend, a salesman in the construction business (notorieous Limbaugh listeners)....and when the elections started up, it all started to fall apart. My daughter is and was heartbroken when they moved back to Sonoma to get away from the 'people' here....(liberal bay area) She has closed down so much....I never thought I would ever be able to marry someone who didn't share my values....well, it is beside the point that I never married....but I dated men whom I was attracted to who turned out to be rethugs....and it always ended up as a barrier.....I just don't have the kind of personality to give in and get absorbed into the male viewpoint on politics....unless they are at least LIBERAL! OR SMART...or both...which is why I presume I never got married...hahahahah Dave....are you interested in this new direction? I worked retail for 25 years in the advertising departments of various stores...I was a men's fashion illustrator. If you think about the buying programs it could be an interesting and swell move many ways....and being a lawyer type won't hurt, either... John F. Kennedy Jr. flunked the NY bar how many times? 3 or 4 I think....But he still ended up working as a lawyer and public defender for a while.....but he had more creative gifts also. A shame he is gone..... Posted by: judi gemini on May 1, 2005 01:12 AMJudi, http://smirkingchimp.com/article.php?sid=20911&mode=&order=0
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,5183628-102279,00.html Posted by: wv on May 1, 2005 03:37 AMJo,
The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: They're already saying polls show it "close" (de'ja vu Nov 2) and talk is of postal ballot fraud. The Observer Guardian article above is cr#* designed to gain Blair sympathy. UN Resolution 1441 had no 'consequences' other than the matter being returned to the Security Council for discussion. They did that when they attempted to get the "second" resolution (the one Tony never had a stroke trying for)... * left him 'blowing in the wind' saying he was 'going anyway' --- LIARS... they're ALL LIARS... the fix is in in UK... May 5th will find Labour holding a majority and Blair will stay... at least a year... if not longer... we're in for a long siege with these boys on both sides of the pond. Posted by: Jo on May 1, 2005 04:06 AMWV, The supreme test for those who believe they are indispensable, that is the world cannot 'run' without them --- is to stick their finger in a small bowl of water, and promptly remove it. If this leaves a hole in the water in the bowl, one is indeed indispensable; otherwise, the world will get along just without their services, thank you very much. [That goes for me and thee, also!] Pathetic to pick an old, old man, who is in the last hours of his life to be head of the church. Certainly shows their control issues when they won't appoint a younger man, who just might have a few years to live. Pathetic... I'm going to bed, y'all wake me when this nightmare is over... sometime around 2012/2013? Posted by: Jo on May 1, 2005 04:18 AMWell, I'll try again; hope it doesn't result in a double-post. This is kind of interesting (astrology re Smirky posted at DU: Hey.....some really good news, interesting news, re Mother Jones. I contribute to their investigative fund, and since moving hadn't gotten a magazine, and just got May / June issue. The Editor's (Russ Rymer) commentary page is JUST TERRIFIC. They are making changes....they are NOT GOING TO ACCOMMODATE any thing which is not based in fact.....oh, you've got to read this!http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/ednote/2005/05/ednote.html The Machinery of Mendacity (this is the last paragraph, but read it all...): Lastly, and speaking from the self-centeredness of our offices, what does all this mean for Mother Jones? When the crisis at the core of our nation’s political decline is a direct attack on the truth, the institution that should take the lead in confronting and correcting that danger is the press. That means us. We have been, since our founding, a reported magazine, and would rather spend our resources ferreting out the facts of a matter than spend our breath expounding opinions. In the current climate, and facing the present danger, we do not find our political orientation to be inconsistent with our devotion to fact. We’re better positioned to honor objective fact because we aren’t insulted by the charge that we’re “liberal media.” We have offered space in these pages to the dialogue about constructive course corrections that might avail the left. But we won’t respond to the political winds by calibrating our message. We have looked at the problem, and decided that the answer is not to accommodate. In upcoming issues, you, our readers, will witness our rededication to this fight, and our confidence that reality is our ally. Considering the demonstrated belief of leaders on the right that furthering their agenda requires bludgeoning any inconvenient truth, we evidently are not alone in concluding that the facts are on our side. Jo, Get plenty of rest. Though you might want to consider "sleeping in" until about 2017. The 2010s around mid-decade look like total mayhem and chaos. "In 2012-15, Uranus forms a square (90°) to Pluto (Aries to Capricorn). This is the opening square after the conjunction of 1965-66 – a major test of what was seeded over 45 years before. This suggests a Big Problem – but if there is the will to confront it positively, it promises great breakthrough. This could be an exceptionally trying time, a material test of our ability to overcome massive hurdles. Technical and organisational implications are involved, and many new factors will jump in – it's a time of potential shock." http://www.palden.co.uk/palden/pal-4tin.html Posted by: NEOBuckeye on May 1, 2005 07:29 AM"The innovations and ideas of the 1960s (microchips to therapies) will either come to work now, or will fail to carry the day. It's a time of emergency and crisis – the edge. It will demand much effort and definite results or big adjustments to new, shocking realities. This could also bring a major setback which, in the longterm (by the 2040s) could bring great benefit. Be it setback or breakthrough, the issues will hang around questions of force, science and technology, resources, land, finance, warfare – and more about institutions. There could be rebellion too. This is a decisive turning-point. Not easy." And that's just for starters. "The 2040s will bring a very critical time. In 2039-41 Uranus in Leo forms a square to Neptune in Taurus. This is a major crunch-test of issues arising since 1993 – it will test structures and people in their capacity to deal with large-scale, possibly overwhelming change. In 2043, Chiron conjuncts Uranus in Leo, opposing Pluto in Aquarius (with a Saturn opposition Neptune thrown in), and some major world stress-points are likely to burst open around the recurrent theme of power (Leo) versus people (Aquarius). 'Might over right' will accompany it." Here's THE BIG ONE... "In 2046-8, Uranus (Virgo) opposes Pluto (Pisces), bringing to a climax the issues seeded in the 1960s: this is a time for facing up to the full implications of the 1960s burst of awareness, and a time of crisis. Shifting realities could bring either a new 'dispensation' or a tremendous historic downfall. If the innovations and understandings of the 1960s and subsequent decades do not work by now, much, if not all, will be lost. This could be a disastrous or a triumphant time. Maximum ingenuity will be called for, and much shifting of positions and perspectives will take place. A time of innovation and awakening – or a time of resignation and disaster. It could be something of both." "The 2040s will see a test of faith, and a squaring with reality. Whether we like it or not, crucial changes will take place. Much that we now know will be gone, and new realities will have taken their place. Some things will have got worse, and some things better – and our perception of 'better' and 'worse' will also have changed. Whether this involves breakdown or whether we can build structures and a consensus to carry us through such intense change is the big question here. Much depends on what has been sorted out from the 1990s onward. If we have not, by the 2040s, acted committedly on what we know we must do, it will be too late. We will possibly be unable to keep the majority of humanity alive and sustained – unless we have learned from previous decades and acted on it. Some sort of revolution is likely, be it social, technological or psycho-spiritual, or all of them." Thus, the Uranus-Pluto hemicycle, from 1965-2048, is the most valid longer-term timeframe in which to see our current times. It is a major chapter of history. If our international, corporate and social institutions develop informed perspectives to plan realistically for such a period, we might be in a position to positively create future history – and redeem past history – rather than survive by crisis-management. In the 1960s we received news of how things were likely to pan out, and by the late 2040s, we will see the results. If we have not by then dealt with fundamental human psycho-social needs, we will experience fundamental world schism. If we have not allowed new grass-roots world forces to act, the older authoritarian world forces will not solve things." http://www.palden.co.uk/palden/pal-4tin.html Posted by: NEOBuckeye on May 1, 2005 07:35 AMI think I previously posted one of Jenkins' articles on where we as a civilization appear to be headed. I really take a tremendous interest in our future. I guess somebody has to. Especially when our current leadership can't even even see to the end of the present business quarter. Gee, aren't we all in for a bumpy ride, soon? Speaking of which... -- An Essential Indian Astrological Analysis of G. W. Bush (and the country he is leading for the time being) (Note: We will skip astrological terminology, mentioning the most important planets or houses only, because they give you a basis for timing.) First of all, this is not a horoscope of a true ruler, it is rather that of a puppet being forced to perform because he has no choice (even though he may well have been a soldier or warrior in his past lives). The planets in his first house would give you a hint of who is moving him: mainly oil and mining, and thirdly, pharmaceutical interests. In fact, it has always been relationships and friends who managed his life so far; these relationships and friends have been simply extreme, however. This native simply does not have an independent personality at all, wanting to live up to his father’s formidable image, he has a minority complex. He is full of unbelievable fears all the time, and cannot live up to his father’s image (where secrecy and destructive power originates). He was probably quite neglected emotionally in his first years, especially by his father, and spent a lot of time alone. Destructive forces are so strong around him that he may actually destroy more than you can believe: he has already been participant of the destruction of a civilization – or a planet – in one of his previous incarnations. (He is not conscious of this trait in himself at all, though. As far as we know, he nearly destroyed a company or two before he became US president). It is very likely that he has been an Arab in more than one life, and an important Native American in another life – betraying his people/tribe to the white man/the Westerners. He has also been one of those who massacred Indians in America. The karma of believing that America would be is the land of the white conquerors has been with him for many lives already (indeed, he is one man who has spent a great deal of time in North America in other lives). The only good thing that can be said about him is that he truly loves his country and his family. This idea that America (the USA, specifically) is a unit that belongs mainly to the (white) people who founded it is coming to a close in this lifetime. However: he will be forced to realize that since land has been stolen from the Native Americans, white civilization must give it back some time – in a way (Or perhaps found new countries upon its dissolution, based upon ideas closer to Indian values.) Indeed, it is possible that the whole country will break up under or soon after his second term (see later), which he is probably not going to complete in office. He is bound to be sacrificed by those that move him, which experience will change him deeply and force him to come to realizations from unseen quarters – but this realization may only mature by as late as 2011. We do not think he will be killed, but he may perhaps stay in confinement for a while, and it is certain that he will have to face some sort of judgment for his deeds. He will face the wrath of people for wars, the economic collapse and for his lies – which he believes have been committed for the sake of the nation. He is an alcoholic – it is next to impossible to remain sober for a long time with this constellation. (Mercury with Pluto and Saturn, with Moon as dispositor means a destructive mind). Even though he says he is sober since he met Jesus when he was forty (the exact time is more like his early forties), he probably drinks now as well. (Or those who control him hand the stuff out to him time to time.) He is unsure of himself as a man and his wife uses pills. His daughters betray him in a see-saw fashion: when one is good, the other one is making scandals to discredit him and gets into things like drug abuse, then they reverse the roles. The same seesaw pattern is true of Bush and his own father, Bush Sr.: his fate soars up only when his father’s fate sinks down. The sign of the Twins (Gemini) is traditionally the sign of America (July 4 in sidereal astrology) – and Bush’s Sun is in the 12th house, the house of destruction and loss (of all worldly values). Also, 911 happened to the Twin Towers when Jupiter (Lord of the house of Enemies) and Rahu (the Northern eclipse point) were transiting the sign of the Twins, opposed by Mars (God of War), and joined by the Moon (ruler of masses). (To top this all, Bush has twin daughters.) This constellation (based on Sun in Gemini in the 12th) also creates an interesting situation: he fortifies his enemies with all his fighting. He does not know why, but the more he fights any party, the stronger his enemies become. Since he is more fanatical than his handlers realize, this will bring America into bitter and unnecessary conflicts. It was oppression and war that he was put into office for (Dasa of Saturn and bhukti of Mars). The duality that the sign of the Twins marks will force a lot of people to take sides under his rulership, changing collective karma. He should have avoided all power, even that of a mayor or a frat president – he is bringing a dark quality into it (Pluto-Saturn together). There are past lives rich in fighting, but he is presently weak and cowardly. Being forced to go on, however, he has no other choice. Under his presidency the rich get richer and the poor get poorer – large masses will sink down into poverty, and debts of unheard quantity are and will be amassed. This will be a primary reason for his downfall, which can be stalled for a year or two (a lot of double communications, accusations, leaks and denials will take place even until then), but starting from 2006, it is a good idea to collect gold and silver and property in remote lands. When Jupiter enters Scorpio in sidereal counting (late October, 2006), his enemies will have a field day, and in 2007-2008, when Saturn and Ketu pass Bush’s natal Mars, economic and personal collapse cannot be forestalled any longer – for himself and the country he leads. At a certain point his handlers will abandon him and it will be open season on Bush. (In fact, that can be the day of his first glimpse towards a spiritual understanding which may follow in other lives). In his case, however, it is very difficult to stay clean for time enough to gain understanding. All relationships are dependent upon power, a person of this kind is tough to those under him and soft to those above. He is generally heartless, without much emotion, extremely narrow-minded and dogmatic, ruthless and operates invisibly sometimes. Bush cannot let go of tradition and the past at all; in fact, he is not normal in his fanatical illusions, but since the larger part of America presently accepts this particular type of madness, he is not going to be brought down from office due to sheer mental incapability. He has giant problems with his masculinity, and a constant desire for power and riches which – in his perception – he rarely gets. The ruler of the house of the future on his ascendant together with Saturn and Pluto cranks up his ego and lifts him up, but will certainly drop him at a certain point. The wars he will bring about can cause the very dissolution of the country: the issue fought for is an old one, probably a war on religion, the Crusades etc. In spite of the orders of his consigners, he will not stop when war or attacks are hopeless: the main reason is religious fanaticism (and illusions on acquisition of land for the control of the USA). This tradition will be forced to change (the entire order of values he grew up with will undergo a radical change until 2030), and Bush will probably live long enough to see everything he fought (and lied) for crumble to dust. If he came to this astrologer for advice, we would have to be very careful in what we say or signal to him – he would be dangerous and possibly vindictive. As far as his opponent, Kerry is concerned: we are surprised to learn – looking at his chart – that he is moved by the same Plutonian forces, which means he would have been the executor of the same will as Bush. We say this is surprising, since his intelligence and personality would lead one to believe that his presidency would have been very different from Bush’s second term. Not much needs to be speculated at this point, however, since he has some particularly bad transits (in Indian astrology) which enable even such a man as Bush to win a landslide against him. One wonders if the powers to be simply picked him to be a nice person who is bound to lose, but we cannot be certain, since they are probably not aware of the intricacies of Hindu astrology. One thing is certain: people in the same generation bear the same karmic burdens, having the transpersonal planets in the same places, and even though Kerry is truly a nice man, an independent personality, and probably a better economist and soldier than Bush, the powers behind him are – would have been – quite the same. All we can say is that the dissolution of the same negative powers will probably be all that much quicker under Bush. I would start to keep my wealth in gold and silver or foreign property from 2006 on, though, and not wait until the oatmeal hits the fan.
-- Thanks to Dover at DemocraticUnderground.com http://educate-yourself.org/cn/gwbhoroscope11nov04.shtml Posted by: NEOBuckeye on May 1, 2005 07:45 AMDave, I am so sorry you did not get into a law school right now but astrology teaches that timing is everything and a door closing doesn't mean it will be closed forever. Maybe you want to go on with something else right now, but if the chance comes again or if Law School hits you as an option again don't think it's the end just because it didn't work out now. You have great heart and you will do well in whatever field you chose. Posted by: Sally on May 1, 2005 08:38 AMDave, Well, there are law schools that you have not tried. An easy one is Oklahoma City University. They take ones who can not get into SMU. There must be other small private schools like Cumberland LaW School.I think that one moved to Alabama. There used to be a Night law school in Nashville run by the YMCA. Albert Gore, Senior went there.tHESE PLACES ARE ACCREDITED and many well known people have gone there and prospered later. You appeared to apply only to hard to get into places.
Dave, back to the Saturn transit. Sometimes Saturn requires an incredible amount of effort to achieve a result. Things can be harder than you thought. ...Our job is to live as well and as long as we can, William J. Clinton in My Life Old granny, I adore that quote. Thank you! No wonder he's Elvis! Posted by: Laurie on May 1, 2005 01:26 PMOld Granny, Great to hear from you! How are you doing. We have missed you. Namaste Posted by: Jo on May 1, 2005 01:40 PMPat QOP Your experience with that woman...Yuck! If I were in your shoes I wouldn't continue to support her. I did a quick google search and pulled three Maine herbalists, specializing in black fly detriments. Who knows, maybe one of them is local to your area!! Wouldn't that be cool and all the more so if they are liberals. http://www.maineherbs.com/soap.html http://www.mountainmamaofmaine.com/1/cat1.htm?328 Posted by: CC on May 1, 2005 02:19 PM
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The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: Well, I sat thru the Rez's entire speach, the other night finding humor there. I even agreed with the last thing he said! Bubble wrap really works! Except that my Grandchildren got to pop most of them before my daughter wrapped the package she sent me with it! PQ, Women in Green sounds appropos and use it if it suits you, but there already area groups with that name, so my Aquarius Mercury/Leo moon say come up with something unique and even more appropriate to teaching such necessary but creative life skills. WV, I really enjoyed that insight into Abramoff, especially because I am a Jew. It is quite a trick, balancing the act of being human and following a spiritual path, but i know those who do it, such as the Rabbis in our area. Abramoff is really a character. His chart should be very interesting. Here's a link for a free numerology reading (go to the bottom of the page). I put in the data of many friends and relative and thought the descriptions were pretty right-on. http://www.123numerology.com/?hop=lotustarot Lastly, a rabbi put out an email regarding the new Pope extending an invitation to the Chief Rabbi of Rome to his installation. It is certainly a good thing. But the rabbi could not attend because it was the first day of Passover. Here's the email :-) Subject: Shabbat Hagadol, 5765 Rabbi Jack Riemer An Incredible News Story
If you know anything at all about Jewish
that Pope Benedictus XVI invited the chief rabbi of Rome, Rabbi Riccardo di
as the new pope.
a formal invitation to the chief rabbi of Rome to be a guest of honor at his coronation?
on Easter Sunday, broke into Jewish homes and pillaged? Do I have to tell
Do you know what the Chief Rabbi of Rome did and therefore he will be with his people at services and so he regrets that
or a cardinal or a bishop or a priest invited Jews, they came-whether they PQ, Women in Green sounds appropos and use it if it suits you, but there already area groups with that name, so my Aquarius Mercury/Leo moon say come up with something unique and even more appropriate to teaching such necessary but creative life skills. WV, I really enjoyed that insight into Abramoff, especially because I am a Jew. It is quite a trick, balancing the act of being human and following a spiritual path, but i know those who do it, such as the Rabbis in our area. Abramoff is really a character. His chart should be very interesting. Here's a link for a free numerology reading (go to the bottom of the page). I put in the data of many friends and relative and thought the descriptions were pretty right-on. http://www.123numerology.com/?hop=lotustarot Lastly, a rabbi put out an email regarding the new Pope extending an invitation to the Chief Rabbi of Rome to his installation. It is certainly a good thing. But the rabbi could not attend because it was the first day of Passover. Here's the email :-) Subject: Shabbat Hagadol, 5765 Rabbi Jack Riemer An Incredible News Story
If you know anything at all about Jewish
that Pope Benedictus XVI invited the chief rabbi of Rome, Rabbi Riccardo di
as the new pope.
a formal invitation to the chief rabbi of Rome to be a guest of honor at his coronation?
on Easter Sunday, broke into Jewish homes and pillaged? Do I have to tell
Do you know what the Chief Rabbi of Rome did and therefore he will be with his people at services and so he regrets that
or a cardinal or a bishop or a priest invited Jews, they came-whether they Oh CC too funny!
Jo and Laurie: I am hanging in there; that is about as far as I can comment. Two days ago I was ready to throw in the towel. Thanks for asking... Bought the Clinton book for my mother, in large print. She is not seeing(or thinking) well enough to read or comprehend much herself, but I have found if I read it outloud to her she enjoys it(as do I). I went ahead and got involved in the book. Have been profoundly impressed; NEVER thinking I would be. Here's this morning's news from here: Mild quake felt across wide area of Mid-South The U.S. Geological Survey reported that the magnitude 4.1 quake occurred at 7:36 a.m. The tremor was centered about four miles south-southeast of Manila, in Mississippi County, about 14 miles west of Blytheville. Michael Hill, a dispatcher at the Mississippi County sheriff's office, said phones began ringing there shortly after the quake occurred. He said one man had some shelving knocked off the wall, and another said it knocked the TV off the wall. Gary Patterson is a geologist with the U.S.G.S. Center for Earthquake Research and Information at the the University of Memphis. He said the earthquake occurred in the New Madrid Seismic Zone, where the strongest quakes ever to hit North America were felt in 1811-1812, centered at New Madrid, Missouri. Pattererson said that, because Sunday's quake was shallow -- centered about six miles below the earth's surface -- it was felt across a wide area. He said people reported feeling it in Missouri, southern Illinois, Kentucky, Tennessee and northern Mississippi in addition to Arkansas. Patterson said smaller aftershocks were felt during the morning, including one of magnitude2.0 shortly before 10a.m.
OKSharon, PQ - it sounds like a lot of challenges have been thrown your way, to say the least, but every success breeds success so cherish every little success and let it lead to new ones. I wish you joy and success in all your endeavors. Same to you, Dave. Betsy is right - you don't have to give up on law school but it sounds like exploring fashion and sales for a while might be just what you need :-) I have been doing real estate for 6 mo. now and I just went under contract for my 3rd home sale - the best one yet. I found, and still find real estate challenging, labor-intensive, and intimidating -- especially at 54 -- but I stay with it as it is also great fun. I am so proud of my 74 year old first cousin. Not only is she now a vegan and affiliated with a program that teaches spiritual values to school children, but after 2 years of practicing meditation, she will now teach it. A former smoker, who began exercising at age 42 (and kept it up every day ever since), who became a pesco-vegetarian through Weight Watchers and is slim and beautiful but stil participates in Weight Watchers, and was once a JAP (Jewish American Princess) -- she has always been spiritual and philosopical, but also angry, egotistical, and a drinker. I have watched her grow, strive, and change since her 40s and she is very inspiring. She calls discipline "want power" not will power. She has healed so much and, once filled with herself, she is now humble, quiet, deep. She just created a handout for her classes and I wanted to share it with you. Wonder if the * Daddy-Sonny * I agree, bhakti. Though it's hard for me not to see this as Clinton actually "using" George I in some sort of way, he may have, indeed, also fallen under the shadow of that nasty, nasty, wicked man. For long is the trail of deceit, darkness, destruction and death behind George Herbert Walker Bush. His shadow is a blight that poisons, withers and consumes all that it is cast upon. Clinton has, however, demonstrated himself in the past to be a brilliant political strategist -- perhaps the greatest of our time. It could actually be the other way around, that Bill is actually manipulating Bush Sr. into keeping some of the GOP's dogs off Hilary's back during her all-but-official 2008 Presidential Campaign. But as the saying goes, you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas. I just don't know that he has the moral certitude to keep himself clean of Bush Sr.'s dark influence. - Dave, I'm sorry that you weren't accepted into the Law School that you were hoping to get into. I can certainly relate to your experience, in that I'm facing a similar struggle in finding a teaching job right now. Ohio schools are laying off teachers by the hundreds and cutting funding for public eduation at every opportunity. It seems that, in this once-progressive, now increasingly backwards, GOP-dominated state that our leaders would rather fund for-profit charter schools, particularly those of a certain wealthy businessman here who contributes thousands of dollars to their re-election efforts. I just got back from Charlotte, North Carolina last weekend after attending a job fair there, probably to no avail -- even in that still-growing district, there were easily 2,000 to 3,000 people (or more) applying for about 200 to 300 jobs. I'm heading back to NC in a few weeks, this time to another teachers job fair in Raleigh. But with thousands of people coming in from all over the country again, I'm sure that the competition will be just as intense. I'm not sure yet what I will do if nothing pans out for me in education, though my mother keeps telling me to go back into retail. I worked in it for four years, and even on the bad days, I still generally enjoyed it more than the corporate desk and drudgery I am chained to for eight hours a day right now. Maybe it wouldn't hurt either of us to try moving in a different direction, since we keep running into these brick walls in one direction? Posted by: NEOBuckeye on May 1, 2005 08:38 PMPat QOP, Re your post: "This AM found myself screaming like a harridan @ George Stephanapolos... played a RERUN of an interview with Nancy Pelosi, about Social Security from before Easter, before the eclipses and the Dems getting fire in their bellys. ( She wished him Happy Easter when signing off!) So it wasn't a RESPONSE to the currant dialogue!!!!!!!!!!!! THEN HE INTERVIEWED PAT ROBERTSON on a real time today live feed. ( And probably paid him for it!)"
Remember some time back that Captain Sally told us the odor from Ohio would continue for a while. Well, check out this story Ohio GOP's "Coin-Gate" Scandal Grows and Grows on americablog.com. He moves things pretty quickly over there, so you may have to scroll down. Posted by: shylurker on May 1, 2005 09:27 PM* [Greek Orthodox] Patriarch under fire over land deals ... 4 yrs after his appointment to the most sensitive xian office in the Mid East, the Greek native is embroiled in a shady land-dealing scandal that threatens to devastate the local church & poison its relations with the Palestinian community. [Like it cares.] This wk, visiting the Holy Sepulchre in prep for the Western churches' Easter, Patriarch Irineos felt obliged to travel with an Israeli police escort. There are calls for his dismissal. The affair is also linked to revelations of sex scandals, drug dealing & corruption that have rocked the parent church in Greece & forced the Greek Govt to intervene. http://www.theage.com.au/news/Middle-East-Crisis/Patriarch-under-fire-over-land-deals/2005/03/24/1111525289852.html?oneclick=true * Sex & fraud woe for Greek church - Embattled Orthodox archbishop calls emergency mtg & asks for forgiveness over lurid claims Greece's Orthodox church, buffeted by sex & corruption scandals, met in emergency session yesterday amid lurid claims that have incl one newspaper publishing photos of a 91 y/o bishop naked in bed with a nubile young woman. Scrambling to resolve the worst crisis in the church's modern history, the embattled spiritual leader, Archbishop Christodoulos, convened the rare mtg as allegations of skulduggery, sexual improprieties, trial rigging, drug & antiquities smuggling engulfed the institution. ... http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0,2763,1418094,00.html
And yet, Clinton writes in his book that George Sr. takes Chelsea(as a two or three year old) by the hand (when she says she needs to go to the bathroom to him) and walks her to the bathroom. I guess what I am reading in the Clinton book is (OK I'll give you the brilliant political strategist) that he sees people for what they are...or maybe sees perhaps their humanity(referring to Bush I). (He also writes that Bush II is the best politician in the family) (Sorry bhakti I don't see the rage...) It has been ...reading the Clinton book... a real perspective alterer for me. Even if you see the book as yet another "brilliant political ploy"...yet it can not help but allow ME to see my own neighbors(Unitarians who voted for Bush II primarily for their position - and his position supposedly - on abortion) in a different light. As people rather than as merely "voters." That Clinton sang in a Pentecostal quartet and attended many a black church service(where he was the only white person there) - in my eyes - places him in a position all by himself. I'm sorry, but I can not see this behavior as being politically motivated. You see your glass howsomeever you pick, though. All we have is the moment... OG Posted by: old granny on May 1, 2005 10:17 PMTo Democrats.com Members: Have you heard about Progressive Democrats of America yet? http://www.pdamerica.org PDA is a rapidly-growing org which is building a grassroots base of citizen activists to move US politics in a progressive direction. PDA has members in all 50 states, plus well-organized & active chapters in 15 states - & counting. And these are not just any Democrats. These are the Aggressive Progressives - just like Democrats.com! PDA was instrumental in pressing for the challenge to the Ohio election results in Congress in Jan. PDA worked with Democrats.com to form the powerful DebtSlavery.org coalition against the bankruptcy bill: http://www.debtslavery.org And PDA is a leading voice against the ongoing war on Iraq. Members of PDA recently gathered for a summit in Wash DC at which one of their members put together this amazing video: http://www.pdamerica.org/video.php I strongly encourage you to join with PDA in your state and help turn this http://www.pdamerica.org/join-ind.php Bob Fertik, President I think clinton's primary motivation is his lust for the spotlight. He'll do anything to stay in it. He would be better off if he took a time out to heal his broken body. Better for everyone. Posted by: jm on May 1, 2005 10:56 PMAnd, yet, who are we to make such rash, self-assured and seemingly certain judgements over anyone? To say Clinton is "this" or "that" is, in my view, inappropriate and a waste of one's time. Is it any better than the Repugs accusing anyone who disagrees with them of being "anti-American" or "anti-faith" or worse? Where is the line drawn where one can rail against those "on the other side" for what they do and the accusations they make, and then turn around and do the same sort of thing? Just a thought. Posted by: Jonathan on May 1, 2005 11:14 PMJonathan, when one is in a position to make decisions that affect our lives, it is important to try and understand everything we can about them. Even if we are wrong, the dialogue is vital. Clinton did some highly damaging things to our country, and people should be aware of these. Only in that way, can we select good politicians in the future. Posted by: Jm on May 1, 2005 11:26 PM"try and understand" is the key phrase. what often happens, of course, is a flurry of accusations (he is this and that and this and that and the other thing) stated as plain fact. that, in my view, is not an effort to try and understand, but an effort to diminish and pass judgement. I'm all for trying to understand someone and why they do what they do. no disagreement there. Posted by: Jonathan on May 1, 2005 11:39 PMI agree, as well. Unfortunately the personal angst, insecurity, and frustration that diminish and pass judgement on others are tangential behaviors in this process. It would be a good thing to master. A mature assessment might lead to some leaders of good character. Posted by: jm on May 1, 2005 11:50 PMAs the article this thread originates from says at the beginning: "I am not among the ones who say 'they don't like George Bush' I don't know George Bush to know whether I like him as a person or not. I do know however that I do not like his actions." With any leader, there will be decisions they make you agree with and you disagree (perhaps strongly) with. On balance, I believe the Clintons did far more good for our Country than the Bushs before or after them. I know, despite the ongoing partisan investigations into them, America certainly felt like a better place to be in when the Clintons sat in the White House. Jonathan Posted by: Jonathan on May 2, 2005 12:05 AMIn Salon's War Room department the last few days: There comes a moment -- it happened to George H.W.Bush, it happened to Bill Clinton -- when reporters in the mainstream media make the pivot against a president. All actions become desperate. All pronouncements become suspect. One hundreds days into his second term, it's a little early to stick a fork in George W. Bush. But boy, has the tide turned on a president who was so recently the swaggering darling of the national news. The White House had to beg some of the networks to air last night's prime-time news conference; it was the first night of sweeps week, and NBC and Fox couldn't bear the thought that Donald Trump or "The O.C." might be bumped by a not particularly popular commander in chief with little new to say. Bush's media handlers, who value nothing more than the president's reputation for resoluteness, caved in at the last minute and moved up the presser by half an hour so that most of the prime-time entertainment could appear on schedule. Bush made a joke about it all toward the end of the press conference, but, as the New York Times notes, a lot of viewers didn't see it: NBC and CBS had already cut away. If he reads the papers today, Bush might find himself wishing that the print reporters had left early, too. Forget the analysis pieces, almost all of which focus on the sorry shape of the president's second-term agenda; notice the hostile tone in the straight news stories today. Under a front-page headline that reads, "Bush Cites Plan That Would Cut Social Security Benefits," the Times says Bush's press conference "represented an effort to regain control of the national dialogue at a time when Mr. Bush is struggling to push his Social Security plan ahead on Capitol Hill, his approval ratings are falling, the economy is showing signs of slowing and Democrats have become more combative." There's more, if you wish to watch an ad for a few seconds, in order to read the rest. Yes, The first lady won a standing ovation for a surprise comedy routine at a dinner honoring journalists. http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/politics/main250.shtml Senator Bill Frist '74, whose family donated the First Campus Center which stands just feet from the protesting students, is spearheading the campaign to end the Senate's 200-year-old tradition of unrestricted debate. http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/archives/2005/04/29/news/12816.shtml PQ Posted by: Pat QOP on May 2, 2005 01:22 AMSally's point regarding Bush at the beginning of this thread wasn't lost on me. But at the same time, I can't help but call a spade out for what it is. I was in fifth grade when "George the Major" took office. You might just attribute this to the influences of the blue collar, solidly Democratic household that I grew up in, but somehow I knew then when I first saw G.H.W.B. on TV, without really knowing very much at all about him, that something just wasn't right about the man. I still remember when my GOP-voting social studies teacher had us stand and say the pledge while we were watching Bush's inauguration, and how something didn't seem very "truthful" about the whole occasion. Like he somehow didn't "belong" where he had arrived. This was an impression as it was received through my eyes as 10 year old child, who still knew almost nothing about the vicious and horrific evils of this world, other than what I had once seen in a Freddie Kruger movie with cousins at age 8. Flash forward 10 years later to my Senior Year in College. I hear the Republican Party announcement of their primary candidates and immediately cringe at the mention of the name "George W. Bush" -- with almost zero prior knowledge of the man. (I was thinking, wasn't he the Gov. of Florida?) Something told me then at that very moment in time that he was very bad news. I didn't know how or why. Only that he must never, Never, NEVER be allowed to become President. And yet, sure enough... Why did I feel this way -- twice -- about two men that I never even knew personally, and knew so little if anything about them? I still think it's odd that I remember hearing my Dad very legitimately griping about how Reagan was hurting the economy (he had lost his job) when I was in Kindergarten, and later seeing him on TV and thinking that he was a very nice, kind-hearted man, even if, now years later in retrospect, that he was at best misguided, and at worst, subject to a darker influence of a certain deceitful vice president. And yet for the little that I knew of Bush Sr. and "Bush Minor" I could immediately tell that they were bad men who would bring nothing good to anyone, anywhere. Try this sometime. Think back over your memories of every American President that you've known during your lifetime. Ask yourself how much you know about each of them. What do you know about their personalities and backgrounds? Personal accomplishments and how they grew up? Without cheating (no help from the Internet) Think of Kennedy and Johnson, Nixon, Carter and Ford. Reagan and Clinton. And try to see how much you can come up with for Bush I. Posted by: NEOBuckeye on May 2, 2005 01:29 AM How they stand in Britain at the moment...note http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/story.jsp?story=634938 Posted by: wv on May 2, 2005 01:35 AMJoanna, Thanks for the link to PDA... I signed up. WV, WaHooooo! going to check it out now... one can dream, right? Maybe he'll be forced to step down after the election... what say you? And did you plant a garden this year? I haven't heard you say. Posted by: Jo on May 2, 2005 01:53 AMNeoBuckeye, Teresa!!! I appologize and Guido appologizes! Missed your message. WWGD? He'd do the interview and really slam Bush with some choice lines. He'd drink about a pint of Scotch afterwards but I don't recommend that you take that advice. Good luck. Thank you for speaking for us!!!
dave, others have said it so well, the two attorneys, but i wanted to put in my two cents. you ran a political campaign. that counts boatloads at some schools, schools that understand the real world. today, adults can have three or more careers over the life span. if you want to make some $$$'s off of fashionalbe texans find but don't give up on a career that would contribute to positive change. one of the schools you applied to, AU, has a graduate program that focuses on political consulting. keep your eyes open for opportunities. you sound like a great guy with a lot to say and contribute. NeoBuckeye, sounds like you want to move. why not look at Fairfax County Schools or Loudoun County Schools in Northern Virignia. fairfax has a huge school district that is quite good (comparatively) and loudoun is the fastest growing county in america with new school popping up all the time. there is also prince william county, also in northern virginia. this is a great place to live. it's price as you get near dc but if you want to live in prince william or loudoun, it's manageable and you'd probably make a bundle on any home/townhomw/condo you purchased. http://www.loudoun.k12.va.us/
NeoBuckeye....your senses are good....and I dislike all the B's and felt that way always )same reaction as you describe)....I think the above article on Hindu astrological expanations of B* mention the forces controlling behind the scenes which affect this (my generation, I am 6 months older than Kerry - Karma is Us, I think)....the father is clearly superior to the son, probably mostly intellectually....he's the Gemini, the easy thinker....but with not much heart for his kids, apparently. But I don't find the fact that he would take Chelsea off to the bathroom, so surpriing, either....it's not a fair comparison....most people with children 'get it'....and as someone else posted ...oh, no, it was a column from the Chronicle by one of my favorite writers, Jon Carroll...nice people can be brutally evil and brutally evil people can actually be nice....you just have to figure out which one. The first time I saw Clinton on tv, at the first debate hosted by Brokaw in 1991, I was transfixed....I could see light around him (I still do)...which to me means that he is a very bright man, lots of heart....and Old Granny, I've read the first 1/3 of the book and it really shows the heart of a politician combined with a kid who grew up in emotionally difficult situations which didn't HARDEN him, but left him with a need to placate the abuser (alcoholic step father). A bad flaw which leaves him vulnerable to manipulation. I didn't agree with much of what he did in his 8 years....but what president did we EVER completely agree with? I am sure he would govern quite differently now.....but those FORCES behind the scenes.....shudder....could ANY president NOT be a part of that? I wonder if the country would be better governed if it was in 5 great areas, each with a president ....losely aligned....for trade, etc....and with a strict constitution for all. Posted by: judi gemini on May 2, 2005 04:13 AMThe 4-day fillibuster of Princetonians at the Frist Bldg sure does my heart good, PQ...shades of "Mr. Smith..." As far as * the Elder, I didn't pick up that he was evil, only that he spoke in a whiney, mealy-mouthed way, like his son, and there was nothing authentic or real about him. His points of light metaphor is the only thing I remember about him, and it was just a bullshit phrase someone came up with. I think the biggest part of the problem is that BI (before Internet), people only got their impression of politicians through TV and print news and had no really reliable information on which to base their choices. Now that we have internet news and blogs, it is still only certain segments of the population that access them. The rest of the country still doesn't have a clue as to how to choose their leaders and can be so easily manipulated. But...I think they are now finally starting to feel the pinch and sense the hypocritical lies (cut SS benefits and invest in a stock market that now falls 100 points each day?!) There is hope and I feel a new day coming. Posted by: Sharon on May 2, 2005 04:19 AMHold the phone, er, the PC ... Chinese computer maker, Lenovo, has purchased IBM's PC division. I am in shock after nearly 30+ years in information technology to see a part of an American icon in the hands of the Chinese. Lenovo completes acquisition of IBM's personal computer business "Within weeks, we will be introducing new products as the new Lenovo," Stephen Ward, Lenovo's chief executive officer, said in a company statement without providing specifics. Lenovo Chairman Yang Yuanqing called the purchase of International Business Machines Corp.'s personal computer division an "historic event" for the company. The company also confirmed weeks of media speculation that it was raising extra cash for the massive deal. It said three private equity investment firms — Texas Pacific Group, General Atlantic Group and Newbridge Capital Group — have agreed to take a $350 million stake in the company. A shareholder's meeting related to that investment would be held May 13, it said. Lenovo's shares are traded in Hong Kong, but the company has not announced any plans for other share listings overseas, raising expectations that it would find other ways to raise funds through overseas investors. The U.S. Committee on Foreign Investment had convened to investigate any national security implications of the proposed acquisition after three members of the U.S. Congress raised questions about the sale, but a review cleared it in March. Lenovo is partially owned by the Chinese government. Lenovo was founded in 1984 by academics at the government-backed Chinese Academy of Sciences and first worked out of a small cottage. First set up to distribute equipment made by IBM and other companies, by 1990 it was selling PCs under its own brand name. IBM now focuses on consulting and software, outsourcing much of its manufacturing. The sale to Lenovo is expected to cut production costs and breathe new life into the PC business, which now accounts for a small portion of IBM's total sales and profits. IBM had 5% of the worldwide PC market in 2004, selling 6.8 million units, according to Gartner Inc., a U.S. technology consulting firm. That compares with 16.4% for Dell Inc. and 13.9% for Hewlett-Packard Inc., which makes the HP and Compaq brands. Lenovo ranked fifth in sales worldwide.
what a great succinct line from Paulden Jenkins: JG: I wonder if, as vcz has said, if oxytocin will forever doom women to stupid mistakes....like putting up with violence against them. vcz: Once girls and women KNOW about oxytocin, the power rests entirely with us. When under the influence, we can talk ourselves down [and avoid the ultimate bad trip]. Have often wished I could develop a spray which would cause the flow of oxytocin, and use it to "attach" young girls to their schoolbooks. lol JudiGemini! Are you still not getting my emails? Posted by: vcz on May 2, 2005 05:55 AMDid anyone else do a spit-take when * whined that he'd been "telling everyone for years that Americans have got to begin conserving energy" ?!?!? I think that had as much [if not more] to do with his immediate freefall in the polls as the privatization of social security. Since 911, they've been telling everyone that true patriots use as much energy as humanly possible. Imagine all those people who bought [or used his tax scam to get free] SUVs hearing those words fall from his lips, as he feigned surprise that we weren't expecting major increases in the price of gasoline! Have seen several sets of statistics which say more than FIFTY PER CENT of those cars are repoed within the first two years. FIFTY PER CENT! Bush Is Blowing Smoke on Energy "The pollster stressed that Republicans should have a positive message, appealing 'to American ideals of invention and innovation' and tapping 'into feelings of American exceptionalism and ingenuity to seal the deal with the swing voters.'" The saddest thing is, this would work. As long as someone's telling us we're the greatest, we'll happily follow them to our doom... Posted by: vcz on May 2, 2005 06:13 AMMike, Thanks for the info on Northern Virginia. I might look into it, but forgive me if I'm somewhat hesitant to really examine it in any great deal. I am getting A LOT of negative, bad vibes about the D.C. metro area in general these days. Don't ask me to explain why. I just do. Maybe it has something to do with my perception of all the corruption and "darkness" around that city. It's like the place is due for a great "flushing-out" of sorts. I can tell you that the feelings of real darkness began around the time 9/11 happened and Ike's prophetic Military-Industrial Complex along with the Rovian-Faux spin machine went into full gear. It's really quite a disturbing contrast from Clinton's time in office, when there was still a much more open and generally progressive energy around the place. On the other hand, you are there, and so is Nancy. And I do have a few friends living in Maryland. So I know that there are still some good people in the region, but I don't know if that's enough to reel me in. Judi, I agree with you about Clinton. And I know for a fact personally that he has a very warm heart. I came within inches of shaking his hand once during a rally he held in my town. He really radiates warmth and a pleasant, kind energy. Without a doubt, he is a real Sun-sign Leo. If there was any genuinely nasty or malicious intent there, I didn't pick up on it, and I don't think he would have been able to hide it very well. He really does have a good heart, but as you said, the way he learned to deal with his abusive step father growing up unfortunately made him vulnerable to some dark influences, like those eminating from and surrounding Bush Senior, and possibly others. Perhaps it is impossible to even be President without being subject to some of those influences in our present day society. I also always did feel that his hands were tied up by the very childish and selfish Gingrichian GOP when it took control of Congress in 1994 and blocked him from doing more for everyday American citizens, so his Presidency did fall short in some significant areas (i.e. universal health care, right-to-marry, etc.). But I'd still give so much to have just one more day out of his two terms in office. I can't even express in words how much I'd like to see the entire BFEE liquidated and permanently removed from even a sliver of power or influence on this planet. Nothing less than standing trial in the International Criminal Court for crimes against humanity and the planet itself will be a sufficient end for the tyranny and havoc these people wreak upon us and our world. On your "five presidents" idea -- Careful what you wish for... you might very well see it come to pass! In a lot of ways, I think we would almost be better off by allowing the US to break up into about 7 to 10 sovereign republics (i.e. New England, Cascadia, Texas, the "Confederate States of America" etc.) perhaps to eventually reassemble into a North American Union of some kind that includes the Canadian provinces. It's either that, or abolishing Congress and the Executive Branch in favor of a true, Proportional, Multi-Party Parliament that gives a lot more people a voice in national politics. Posted by: NEOBuckeye on May 2, 2005 06:53 AMPat QOP, vcz....I am going to post this on here and on the next thread...I have again had NO emails from you....Judi Posted by: judi gemini on May 3, 2005 03:17 AM
Well deserved for my money...
Nuclear Double Standards....notice how little http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,5185251-114659,00.html Posted by: wv on May 4, 2005 04:34 AMJo No garden planted yet. This morning it was a balmy I agree with you .
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