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The Land of the Free
Among the many legends that derive from the story of the Holy Grail, the tale of the knight Perceval is especially poignant. When Perceval comes to the Grail Castle for the first time, he fails to ask about the Fisher King’s bleeding, never-healing wound. Previously, while learning the rules of chivalry, Percival had been told that it was impolite to ask too many questions. By declining to ask the long-suffering King about the cause of his pain, however, Perceval is exiled from the wondrous Grail Castle and condemned to wander for many arduous years, despite his longing to return. After repeatedly failing to find the Grail Castle a second time during his difficult sojourn, Perceval finally discovers his way back and ultimately asks the Fisher King the all-important question, “What ails thee?” which immediately heals the wounded monarch and brings great rejoicing. This simple concept of being open to understanding the source of a fellow human’s suffering is quite profound. The capacity to listen to another’s grief can heal a marriage or a foundering relationship between a parent and child or between friends. We are often so busy with our own preoccupations or so invested in being right or in not admitting fault that we fail to listen. Without acceptance and understanding, the aggrieved parties will not release their anger, and the ceaseless struggle between them will continue. In much the same way, this principle exists between nations, and both diplomacy and negotiation, when done appropriately, provide channels through which nations can acknowledge misunderstandings and the issues inherent in their conflicts and reach a consensus for resolution. How powerful, how transformative, would it be if our government could sit down with the governments of Iran or North Korea, or even representatives of the terrorists(!), and listen to their perspective, the source of their anger and their distrust, and attempt to address it? Instead, we create cardboard villains at whom we hurl insults and sometimes bombs, but we get no closer to either the root of the bitter disagreements that rage between us or their solution. To ask, “What ails thee?” can also be done introspectively, either individually or collectively, as the beginning point of a healthy transformation. For many in America, the many travesties of the Bush administration - its constant deceptions, its weakening of civil liberties, its destruction of the environment, its militant version of diplomacy, its assault on protections for the poor, etc. – have been like a festering wound that seems never to heal, seeping out more of the lifeblood of the nation with each new transgression. On the collective or national level, it is primarily the news media that is entrusted with the task of alerting the public when the nation or its government are deviating from just, lawful, or beneficial policies. It is the media’s task to ferret out the truth, to expose fraud and corruption, and often to speak for the conscience of the people, especially when that conscience has gotten sleepy or distracted. It is the role of the news media to ask the question “What ails us?” and to explore the multifaceted answers to that question, as well as its potential solutions. In the US chart, Uranus, the planet of freedom, rebellion, and sudden awakening, is very prominent. It opposes the Ascendant, which suggests it colors the very identity of the nation. Indeed, our national identity is very bound up with the concepts of freedom from oppression and equality that permeate our elegantly written Declaration of Independence, as well as with the protected freedoms guaranteed in our Bill of Rights. Moreover, Uranus rules the third house of the press and communication and the US Aquarian Moon located in the 3rd house. This rulership points to the special significance of freedom of speech and freedom of the press in our national heritage. As of March 19, 2005, Uranus has moved to within a one-degree orb of square to the US natal Uranus, and will cross back and forth over the exact square three times through January 2006. Then from March 2006 until February 2007, Uranus will square the US Ascendant (of the Sibley chart). This suggests a prolonged period, from March 2005 through February 2007, during which that part of the American archetype which has to do with freedom of expression, freedom of the press, guaranteed civil liberties, and rebelling against perceived tyranny, will be activated and intensified. Uranus can manifest in a violent or explosive manner at times, and so the upcoming Uranian rebellion may not always be peaceful. But come it will. And it is likely to have a direct and stressful impact on George Bush and his administration, who will be undergoing concurrent Uranus transits, opposite Bush’s Mars and square the Inaugural Moon. To get some perspective on the impact of the coming Uranus transit in the US chart, it is instructive to look at some historical data. The first time in the nation’s history that Uranus transited its birth place and, subsequently, the US Descendant, was from the second half of 1860 through early 1862, a time which correlates to the building secessionist movement in the South and the first year of the American Civil War. The second crossing of natal Uranus and the US Descendant by transiting Uranus came in 1943 and 1944, as the US was intensifying its war effort against the globally threatening tyranny of Nazi Germany. From late 1963 through mid 1965, Uranus squared the natal US Uranus and Descendant, bringing in its wake an escalating and increasingly insistent civil rights movement, the passage of the Voting Rights Act, and Lyndon Johnson’s War on Poverty and Great Society. In each of these historical examples, a focused and powerful resistance to a perceived tyranny and a push for greater freedom manifested. Because of Uranus’s unpredictability, however, there is no way to be sure of the exact path the transits in 2005, 2006, and early 2007 will take. At present, there are many who chafe under the grip of the Bush administration’s propagandistic hold on America, its pervasive dishonesty, its increasing limits on civil liberties, and its neo-fascistic foundation in hyper-nationalism, corporatism, and militancy. It may very well be that the coming Uranus transit will challenge the ascendancy of this radical agenda and stir the American public to resist this encroaching stain on its democracy. It is also possible that Uranus will stir up the hostility that exists in the nasty Culture War that increasingly pervades our political and cultural landscape, with its burgeoning animosity between Christian fundamentalist extremists that wish to imprint America with their radical ideology and the more moderate and liberal among us who prefer to let people live their own lives. The current escalating battle over the fate of Terri Schiavo, as the first Uranus aspect waxes in strength, seems to be the latest installment of this Cold Civil War. But no transit operates in a vacuum. Planetary aspects weave together, uniting a disparate and sometimes contradictory mix of elements. Recently, George Bush has been under a prolonged Jupiter transit to his natal Jupiter and Moon, through March 11, and, soon, briefly square his Sun for a week through April 4. This accounts for his jocular mood and the gloating of administration officials who now think democracy is on the march throughout the Middle East due to the enlightened influence of Emperor Bush’s aggressive policies. Concurrent to this uplifting and somewhat grandiose Jupiter influence, however, Saturn’s transit to US Mercury and Bush’s Saturn has been exerting significant pressure on the Bush administration, indicating the increasing contraction of US currency and the problematic trade issues that are impacting the US economy. With Saturn now moving direct again, Bush will demonstrate less glib optimism and be weighed down more and more by weighty concerns, especially as Saturn gets closer once again to the US Mercury in May and to Bush’s Saturn in June. Moreover, as of September 2005 and continuing through June 2007, Bush will be under an increasing pressure from Saturn to curtail his actions and face the exigencies of the reality-based world. Saturn will cross his Ascendant, Mercury, and Pluto, and the following year his Venus. These transits suggest an onerous road for Bush, dramatically punctuated with unpleasant surprises from the unpredictable Uranus. There is yet another significant planetary influence over the coming few years to consider. In the natal US chart, we find a Mercury/Pluto opposition, with Pluto in the second house and Mercury in the eighth house. This describes the obsessive and all-consuming focus in America on controlling resources and accumulating wealth (Pluto in the second house) and the power struggle between labor (Mercury) and the forces of great wealth (Pluto), with wealth often turning trade and labor to its own purposes. An indication of the evolving distribution of wealth and financial power in the US may be found in the transits of Pluto to this natal Pluto/Mercury opposition. Thus, when Pluto crossed in conjunction to US Mercury and opposite US Pluto from 1933 through 1937, FDR pushed through his transformative New Deal, shifting key elements in the economic foundation of America. Forty-four years later, from January 1981 through September 1983, when Pluto moved to square US Mercury and Pluto, Ronald Reagan instigated massive tax cuts for the wealthy with his supply-side economics, creating huge government deficits and very little of the promised “trickle down” effect to help the poor. A significant redistribution of wealth was unfolding once again. The next major transit taking place in this sequence will be from 2020 through 2023, when Pluto will oppose US Mercury and return to its own natal position. We can expect potent forces to profoundly shift the economic landscape at this time, dramatically reshaping the distribution and power of American wealth yet again. What is interesting for our present consideration, however, is the transiting Pluto quincunx to natal Mercury, a more minor aspect than the squares, conjunctions, and oppositions discussed above, but nonetheless quite significant, due to the tight, hard natal aspect between these two planets, and the slow, prolonged nature of this transit. Covering from January 2005 through September 2006, the Pluto quincunx to US Mercury is likely to bring powerful transformative forces and momentous power struggles that will slowly and inexorably work upon US trade, currency, investment issues, and wealth distribution during this almost two-year period. In addition, the early months of this transit, through May 2005, are accompanied by the contracting, rather depressing, and problematic influence of Saturn conjunct US Mercury. Due to a particularly intense period of the combined impact of Saturn and Pluto, it is possible that May 15 to 28 will bring some kind of crisis involving these economic issues. Thus far, the Pluto transit quincunx US Mercury, accompanied by the Saturn conjunction, has brought a sharp contraction of US currency, a huge increase in the cost of oil, and growing fears about the trade and current accounts deficits. All of these are issues of Saturn (contraction, scarcity) conjunct US 8th house Mercury (trade, currency, resources of others). But the focus on Mercury will continue after Saturn departs in early June, when Pluto lingers for another 16 months. We can expect a slow, relentless process of transformation in the areas of trade, currency, and resources. Despite any last gasp of hope, there will be no going back to the halcyon days of America, the economic superpower amidst pigmies, calling all the shots. The entire economic landscape is in the process of rearranging once again, and this time, globally. America will have to adjust to a crowded field of competition and will need to slim down and hone up her skills. Moreover, she will have to finally face her gluttony for resources, especially oil. This process may be quite painful due to the wasted years when raising public awareness and the development of alternative fuels could have been given top priority and done with less sense of imminent crisis. Although the major Pluto transit between 2020 and 2023 will bring a profound metamorphosis of our economic reality, the current two-year transit will also cause a significant reorientation and a necessary transformation and will prove to be quite significant in the evolution of American capitalism. And so, we find ourselves at the threshold of momentous events. The economic shifts have already begun but are only just whispering their way onto the nation’s radar, notably by the increasingly high gas prices. There will soon be some perturbations or eruptions as the Land of the Free remembers its true heritage and struggles to reconnect with its July 4th roots. These attempts to break free and the sudden, pivotal events that will awaken us to a clearer sight have not yet come. But they are brewing all around us, as well as stirring up the long-cowed press, and they are likely soon to bubble over into consciousness.
Nancy Waterman on Mar 24 | Link
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Brava Nancy! Posted by: Pat C on March 24, 2005 11:01 PMExcellent piece, Nancy. Lots to digest here... the economic situation is going to wake up those Americans who are asleep... nothing like losing your purse-power to shake things up! Posted by: Jo on March 24, 2005 11:15 PMThanks, all. I know it is kind of long and technical but I thought the Pluto US Mercury cycle interesting, and this transit is definitely signfican't. Other than the hard aspects, there is only the semisextile and the trine, neither of which are show stoppers. The interesting thing here is we have two long stations on either end of the two year period. Posted by: Nancy on March 24, 2005 11:28 PMBeautifully written Nancy. " Pluto lingers for another 16 months. We can expect a slow, relentless process of transformation in the areas of trade, currency, and resources." While Clinton will be remembered as the President who left us with trillion $ surplus, Bush will be remembered as the President who brought us to bankruptcy, export of jobs, trade deficits, lack of health care and financial security, and the disappearance-oppression of the middle class in favor of the wealthy. Not exactly the legacy in If this past week has been any indication, at least 82% of Americans are waking up.Perhaps when Uranus makes its final pass we will be rid of this misadministration. Posted by: Pallas18 on March 24, 2005 11:54 PM
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/printer_032405G.shtml Posted by: wv on March 24, 2005 11:57 PMtremendous work nancy! i will have to come back to this one again and again just to digest all the wealth of info you give and such great insight! Posted by: Isabelle Ghaneh on March 24, 2005 11:58 PMNancy, I love the use of the Grail and Parseval in the beginning of this article. It just drew me right in Here is some good Mercury to consider in this senario. Looks like Al Gore's TV network is actually happening soon: http://www.indtv.tv/vc/ They have a contest on the website right now, and I would urge you guys to vote for (or at least watch) Battleground Minnesota. Then there is this which sounds good, but my gawd.....Baker??? http://www.lightupthedarkness.org/blog/default.asp?view=plink&id=617 It appears that the calls for election reform have not gone unnoticed. In a press release, “Former President Jimmy Carter and former Secretary of State James A. Baker, III, announced today that they will co-chair a Commission on Federal Election Reform.” The newly formed bi-partisan commission will “examine the state of America's federal elections and recommend improvements.” Carter and Baker have assembled a private, bi-partisan commission whose membership includes former Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle, former House Minority Leader Bob Michel, former U.S. Representatives Lee Hamilton and Susan Molinari, university presidents, scholars and community leaders. The new Commission on Federal Election Reform will look at those and other voting problems, examine the implementation of HAVA, and propose recommendations to improve the electoral process. Posted by: Pat C on March 25, 2005 12:22 AMwv, that sounds like a setup for the young brown shirts. If anyone actually forgot the history of nazi Germany and how it developed, we are going to be reminded. Posted by: Pat C on March 25, 2005 12:25 AMInflation flickers again on horizon Recent price increases are significant enough that the Federal Reserve has expressed sharp concerns - causing angst in the financial markets. http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0325/p01s02-usec.html?s=hns Posted by: Pat C on March 25, 2005 12:32 AMI seem to be at a loss for words! Total Fed Credit expanded by $7.8 billion last week, and after it gets through being multiplied by the fractional reserve banking system, another few jillions of dollars of potential money was created. Now all you gotta do is walk up and borrow some of it to make it into money! Enrico Orlandini of the Lasco Report also has been thinking about this stuff, too, and has a new essay entitled "Panacea." He writes "Mr. Greenspan has printed more dollars than all the other Federal Reserve Chairmen put together. It also doesn't quite capture the fact that the monetary growth seems to be gathering speed. For the week ending March 7, 2005, the M-3 increased another $31.5 billion and that's more than $160 billion since the last week in January. If this pace continues, we are on the road to a staggering trillion dollars plus growth in the money supply for 2005. Impressive to say the least!" But as impressive as that it, life is not all cookies and chocolate milk. He also notes that history shows that "The implementation of paper money almost always begins with fiscal responsibility and good intentions, and it almost always ends in war and the collapse of social order." A relevant homily is that the road to hell is paved with good intentions. "In conclusion," he says, "watch the money supply and look for larger and larger increases. And remember, you can print it but someone still has to want it. Every day there are less and less people willing to hold dollars. I'm seeing a trend in Latin America that was unthinkable just a couple of years ago. Stores are refusing to take dollars and companies are now writing long term contracts in local currencies. That's never happened before. How far have the Americans fallen? Not nearly as far as they're going to!" As mad as that makes me, and as much as that scares me, and as much as that makes me write long, rambling hate-filled letters to the Federal Reserve about how they are suicidal idiots who are killing us all by destroying our money, I was not prepared for the how much Total Public Debt ballooned here lately. If you are a spineless coward like I am, then skip the rest of the MoGu and go have a chili dog, which would probably hit the spot right about now. But for the rest of you brave souls who laugh-- hahaha! --at danger, the numbers show that the Treasury and the spendthrift Bush White House and the moronic Congress have borrowed, in sixteen lousy days, $72 billion! Dollars! $72 billion dollars in sixteen days! http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_business&Number=293475957#Post293475957 Posted by: Jo on March 25, 2005 01:16 AMPatC, have you seen the chart of historical cpi inflation rates for comparison to now?
http://www.sfgate.com/comics/fiore/ Posted by: wv on March 25, 2005 01:50 AMGreat work as usual Nancy. In my studies of historical event astrology I have always been fascinated with the "seeding" times. The Revolution was "seeded" long before it began and the formentation began when Pluto was opposing what became the US Venus. The "New Deal" was a response to the burst bubble of the Stock Market, again begun in 1921 (the beginning of the rise) and Pluto conj. the US Saturn. Civil Rights was most definately the culmination of the hopeful promise of the Civil War when Pluto was in sextile to the US Venus and Jupiter. Pluto was close to a square to it's natal home when Ronald Reagan came to office and is now in a sextile to the policies Reagan ushered in, look at all the roads, airports, buildings named after him. The policies started in 1980 could fall out of favor in 2020/2023 and the Clinton policies might come to the fore. Clinton worked hard on the NWO, he saw a world where we all worked together for the greater good of all. He had his own vision of utopia. Of course each of the outer planets have their own cycles and they are ever turning bringing forth different issues to the front and center. I'll tell you though you are so right about the direction, with Pluto transiting the 1st house of the US chart we will never be the same country again, not in our lifetimes. Posted by: Sally on March 25, 2005 02:04 AMIn economics, hyperinflation is inflation which is "out of control", a condition in which prices increase rapidly as a currency loses its value. No precise definition of hyperinflation is universally accepted. One simple definition requires an monthly inflation rate of 50% or more. The definition used by most economists is "an inflationary cycle without any tendency toward equilibrium." A vicious circle is created in which more and more inflation is created with each iteration of the cycle. Although there is a great deal of debate about the root causes of hyperinflation, it becomes visible when there is an unchecked increase in the money supply or drastic debasement of coinage. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation The story behind the German hyperinflation illustrates how all hyperinflations have come about, and is of particular interest in itself. After World War I, Germany had a democratic government, but little stability. A general named Kapp decided to make himself dictator, and marched his troops and militias into Berlin in an attempted coup d'etat known as the "Kapp Putsch." However, the German people resisted this attempt at dictatorship with nonviolent noncooperation. The workers went out in a general strike and the civil servants simply refused to obey the orders of Kapp and his men. Unable to take command of the country, Kapp retreated and ultimately gave up his attempt. However, the German economy, never very sound, was further disrupted by the conflict surrounding Kapp's putsch and by the strike against it; and production fell and prices rose. The rise in prices destroyed the purchasing power of wages and government revenues, and the government responded to this by printing money to replace the lost revenues. This was the beginning of a vicious circle. Each increase in the quantity of money in circulation brought about a further inflation of prices, reducing the purchasing power of incomes and revenues, and leading to more printing of money. In the extreme, the monetary system simply collapses. In Germany, people would rush out to spend the day's wages as fast as possible, knowing that only a few hours' inflation would deprive today's wages of most of their purchasing power. One source says that people might buy a bottle of wine in the expectation that on the following morning, the empty bottle could be sold for more than it had cost when full. Those with goods to barter resorted to barter to get food; those with nothing to barter suffered. Posted by: Jo on March 25, 2005 02:12 AMJeanie, thank you for that! (sigh) ......................... http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/03/24/hinzman-050324.html No refugee status in Canada for U.S. soldier TORONTO - An immigration panel in Toronto has denied refugee status to a former paratrooper who fled the United States to evade the war in Iraq. The Immigration and Refugee Board members said Thursday that Jeremy Hinzman, 26, hadn't convinced them that he would be persecuted if he returned to his native land. Hinzman faces a court martial if he goes back and could be sentenced to five years in jail as a deserter. The board also denied asylum to Hinzman's wife and pre-school son. "Removal to the U.S. would not subject them personally to a risk to their lives or to a risk of cruel and unusual treatment or punishment," the board said in a statement.
"There are no substantial grounds to believe that their removal to the U.S. will subject them personally to a danger of torture." Hinzman's lawyer, Jeffry House, said he would ask the Federal Court to review the decision. "It's a disappointing decision," House told CBC Newsworld. "[But] he feels that, in the long run, he will be successful with this case." Hinzman is seen as a deserter by the American military, but his supporters say he is a war resister who should be given refugee status in Canada. He enlisted in the U.S. army three years ago as a paratrooper with the 82nd Airborne Division. He deserted last year, rather than go to Iraq, and moved to Canada with his family. During a three-day hearing before the immigration board in December, Hinzman said he sought refugee status because he opposed the war in Iraq on moral grounds and thought the U.S. invasion violated international human rights. The panel decided that Hinzman was not a conscientious objector. Posted by: Pat C on March 25, 2005 02:53 AMUranus squares and Presidential Politics http://www.stariq.com/Main/Articles/P0006076.HTM Posted by: Pallas18 on March 25, 2005 03:02 AMShocked and awed into 'freedom' By Pepe Escobar Two years after being shocked and awed into "freedom", freedom on the ground is a meaningless concept for large swathes of the Iraqi population. Sunnis and Shi'ites alike tell Asia Times Online of a brutalization of every-day life. Highways in and out of Baghdad are suicidal: the Americans can't control any of them. Anyone is a potential kidnapping target, either for the Sunni guerrilla or criminal gangs. Officials at the Oil and Electricity Ministries tell of at least one attack a day. Oil pipelines are attacked and distribution interrupted virtually every week. There's a prison camp syndrome: almost 10,000 Iraqis incarcerated at any one time, in three large jails, including the infamous Abu Ghraib. There's also an Abu Ghraib syndrome: all-round denunciation of torture, electroshocks and beatings. The Americans and the Iraqi police proceed with the same "round up the usual suspects" tactic: but even if the "suspects" are not part of the resistance, their families are always well taken care of, so they inevitably join the resistance actively when they leave jail. The Sunni guerrillas register an average of scores of attacks a day, all over the country. Roadside and car bombs are still exploding in leveled Fallujah. The Baghdad regional police commander was assassinated on Saturday. The resistance has infiltrated virtually all government and police networks. American counterinsurgency methods are going nowhere, because as the Sunni guerrillas keep killing masses of Iraqi security forces, these forces are retaliating in kind - abuses detailed, among others, by Human Rights Watch. The majority of the Sunni population, complaining about official brutality, has withdrawn support for the American-trained Iraqi security forces. So the culture of brutalization has merged with the emergence of sectarianism. ... And all of this soaked in corruption In its Global Corruption Report 2005, Berlin-based Transparency International (TI) blasted the widespread corruption in Iraq, which has benefited US contractors like Halliburton and Bechtel. TI stressed that the new Iraqi government, the American occupying power and international donors, such as the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund, must urgently insist on decentralizing governance, loans and aid projects; otherwise "Iraq will become the biggest corruption scandal in history". ... http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/GC22Ak06.html Whoosh, all that gives me hope. Even if it's hard it's better than the slow disintegration into the abyss. What I would like to know and would be very telling to me is this, Claudia made a prediction last fall that ***H would win but would become the most reviled president in history. I have clung to that ever since I read it. Is it there, in the shadows of Pluto? Do you see that? Posted by: M. on March 25, 2005 04:11 AMVenus/MC, Sun/Neptune and Mars/Saturn are all at 17/18 degree Leo, Sun/Neptune and Mars/Saturn particularly are associated with death when in aspect to Neptune. Venus/MC in the US chart is a very fated mid-point because of the Venus rulership of the Midheaven in the US Chart. For the first time in the history of the United States Solar Arc Mars is conj. the US Uranus and Solar Arc Moon is conjunct the US Saturn in Libra. Transiting Uranus squaring that configuration of natal US and SA Mars is extremely potent, the SA Moon to Saturn is being transited by Jupiter. Moon/Saturn being transited by Jupiter and is still squared by the US Sun. This spring and summer (even as we speak) is extremely volatile. Uranus will square SA Mars and natal Uranus all through the summer and through to Jan. 2006. Individually a SA Moon progressed to a natal Saturn would be depression and lowered immune system, everyone absolutely everyone needs to find a means to keep their immune system elevated. Eat right, exercise, take Sambucol Elderberry Syrup, drink green tea and all the other tricks you may have. As a nation we would collectively experience all of that. The Mars/Uranus will ensure anger out there so watch your driving. The Soltice Moon in the 4th house oppose Mars in the 10, public assassinations are not beyond the pale here, both were at the critical 29 degree Cancer/Capricorn. The next few months promise as much intrigue as the movie "Wait Until Dark." There is some type of crescendo building, I have faith we will all stay out of harms way. Posted by: Sally on March 25, 2005 04:14 AMIt is still sinking in. We are in the middle of a coup d'etat of the third This attempt failed, or did it, - but it's Mercury Retrograde. This wacked out House of Reps Since impeachment of judges has to start in the judiciary committee in the House of Reps, I wouldn't be surprised if that isn't one of the avenues they'll try. Is this not everything Hitler did? Posted by: Pallas18 on March 25, 2005 04:38 AMWHOOPS MADE A MISTAKE Solar Arc Mars is in Aquarius at 8 degrees not Gemini at 8 degrees, so it is trining the US Uranus. The trine would definately cool the Mars Uranus heat at least until Saturn comes around to oppose that 8 degrees, setting off some anger toward Mr. * Posted by: Sally on March 25, 2005 05:17 AMWhoops. It's not good to say nasty things about 2001 Christianity Today In the wake of one of the largest financial frauds in American history, five former leaders of the Greater Ministries International Church (GMIC) have been sentenced to long prison terms. In a Tampa federal court in early August, Gerald Payne, the leader of the scam, was sentenced to 27 years for his conviction in March on 19 counts of fraud, conspiracy, money-laundering, and related charges. His wife, Betty Payne, received 12 years and 7 months. [b]Judge James Whittemore[/b] said he had planned to give Betty Payne only 11 years and three months. But then she read a defiant statement, denouncing the trial as a violation of the Paynes' constitutional rights and insisting that their actions were guided by the Holy Spirit and broke no laws. ........[b]Whittemore responded that she had aborted his plan for leniency: ...Then he slapped the extra time onto her sentence.[/b] Gerald Payne, who is 65, has suffered several strokes in recent years, the latest while he was in jail awaiting sentencing. Betty Payne is 61. David Whitfield, 48, who was the financial and computer manager for GMIC, was the youngest defendant. He blinked back tears as he proclaimed his innocence and asked for mercy, saying he did not know the plan was fraudulent. But then an IRS investigator testified that he had uncovered evidence suggesting Whitfield had knowledge of where more than $1 million of the stolen funds was hidden in Mexico. Whittemore sentenced Whitfield to 19 years, warning him that if a Mexican cache is found and connected to him, he could face additional charges. -more- Posted by: Pallas18 on March 25, 2005 05:24 AMNancy, that was a beautiful reminder of the story of Perceval. Sure does sound like Chiron. I am always amazed at the repeated themes in all of humankind's myth and literature. It makes me feel connected. Regarding the Uranian influence over the USA, we can't forget the USA Moon in Aquarius, which will be hit by Neptune in all of this...Saturn opposing. I guess we'll see if freedom really IS on the march. The wealth issue is repeated with the Mars/Pluto conjunction in the 8th of the inaugural chart. I feel the Uranus hit with the Schiavo incident. It's been an abrupt and shocking awakening, and it keeps escalating and spinning out of control. An extreme reaction to a small personal incident. Like some revolt was just looking for a hook. The image of the government coming in to take the body struck a nerve, it seems. Too close to martial law. I think it scared the people into some realization and undermined the trust they may have had in this administration. That coupled with the Social Security scam. Pluto brings up issues of trust, too. It looks like everything they are doing is wrong suddenly. Quite a reversal. Posted by: jm on March 25, 2005 08:24 AMHere's a nice addition to the blogosphere...John Conyers new blog written by him personally: http://www.conyersblog.us/archives/00000033.htm#comments Posted by: jm on March 25, 2005 09:03 AMThat was a link to one article. Here is the whole blog: http://www.conyersblog.us/default.htm Posted by: jm on March 25, 2005 09:06 AM"Land of the Free" ??? Nancy, surely you do not speak of America? That "Land" died sometime ago... we are continuing our manipulation of governments, now that we have completed the side trip to dismantle the Constitution of the USA, and we are tearing down governments even as we destroy the infrastructure of Iraq... Kyrgyzstan being only a minor cog in the wheel of US hegemony rolling 'cross the planet. ------- "...But why would the U.S. move to topple the "president" of this impoverished backwater, a country with no oil, no abundance of other natural resources (except lots of water), and one that certainly represents no threat to the mighty U.S.? Part of the answer may lie in Kyrgyzstan's strategic position and the future of the U.S. air base, as detailed in this interesting news story from February: "Kyrgyz Foreign Minister Askar Aitmatov said yesterday that American AWACS reconnaissance planes will not be deployed at the Ganci air base outside the Kyrgyz capital, Bishkek. Aitmatov made the statement after a trip to Moscow. Some observers say the Kyrgyz government's decision was made to please Russia, with the aim of gaining the Kremlin's support ahead of February 27 parliamentary elections and the presidential election in October." It was a fateful visit to Moscow, from which the foreign minister returned sporting "two decisions," as reported by Eurasianet: "The first – announced on February 11 – was to send more Russian military equipment and weaponry to the Russian Kant air base near the Kyrgyz capital, Bishkek. The other decision was to deny the U.S. request to deploy the AWACS reconnaissance planes at the U.S. Ganci air base, which is also near Bishkek. 'It has been decided that the deployment of planes of this type (AWACS) would not quite fit the mandate of the Ganci air base, which is to provide support to the operation in Afghanistan,' Aitmatov said yesterday. 'We hope our Western partners and friends will accept Kyrgyzstan's position with understanding.'" http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=5331 Posted by: Jo on March 25, 2005 01:38 PMI highly recommend the link to antiwar.com I posted above. There is the belief here and many other places online that we are preparing to confront Russia... certainly we have been involved in destabilizing their internal affairs for at least four years now. Here's another snip from the link above: ------ "...What else is the "American Committee for Peace in Chechnya" – featuring Jim Woolsey, Richard Perle, Elliott Abrams, Michael Ledeen, and including a sprinkling of liberal Democrats like Zbigniew Brzezinski – all about? The reason is because the real strategic goal of U.S. policy in the region is to roll back Russian influence – and even to effect "regime change" in Moscow. The "war on terrorism"? Fuggedaboutit! That's just a come-on for the rubes. "
Whew, Nancy! Most excellent beginning with the Perceval legend -- so apropo to the divisive national spirit. Equally interesting to me is the nature of our beginning as a nation. Were it not for those with distincly Uranian qualities our constitution may have mimicked more than English law given that most representatives to the Continental Congress were all wealthy landowners. Though wealth=power=might=right group insists upon its superiority, Uranus wakes us to the reality that wealth does not equate to wisdom. I'll read this again. Thank YOU, Nancy! karen Posted by: farrout on March 25, 2005 01:55 PMMore "Friday" news (actually the entire week with the focus on Terri was a "Friday" --- all kinds of bad news was dumped under the radar) from Crawford (where else?) -------- "President George W. Bush has chosen a White House veteran to succeed Richard Boucher, who became a public face of U.S. Iraq war policy, as the State Department’s chief spokesman, the White House said on Thursday. http://news.ft.com/cms/s/042a8c0e-9cb5-11d9-b1c2-00000e2511c8.html ----------- Google up McCormack --- here's one of his more infamous quotes, given on my birth date (I'm so proud! NOT!) Quote, June 13, 2003 ------ Here's one of the things he was involved with:
Sorry for hogging the board, but while the focus has been on ONE person for almost a week, tPluto has continued to throw out the dirt, unnoticed of course. tPluto is stationing now, will go Rx tomorrow... the last of the four Maya mentioned shifting energy this month (Mercury Ceres Saturn and Pluto). Full Moon today. And Maya suggests Saturn's energy is Plutonian: "21 Cancer, where Saturn has been sitting for a few weeks, also carries Plutonian renovative energy. We see dynamic Pluto operating everywhere this month, bringing power up from the depths to transform life. Perhaps Pluto itself may have gone too far, for Pluto turns retrograde on March 26, at 25 Sagittarius. This is a new degree for Pluto, which it entered about mid-February." (Maya del Mar's Daykeeper) After the station, tPluto will move away from the Galactic Center (26 degrees Sag), this being the closest it has come... it will be baaaaccck... but not this year. [Astrologers say there is a Black Hole at the Center --- ponder that for awhile] So hang in there --- more stuff coming for sure, out of that 'Black Hole' --- or into it... --- Seymour Hirsh spoke --- a Kossack (dKos poster) made notes and turned them into a diary... read it and weep... especially if you think the farce of an election on January 30 was a 'good thing'... http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/3/24/225640/061 Posted by: Jo on March 25, 2005 02:28 PMApologize, I misspelled Hersh above... too much coffee? Posted by: Jo on March 25, 2005 02:32 PMWell, well, well...Wolfie, who we were all led to believe was divorced, apparently isn't. Snippets from article in Daily Mail: Influential members of staff at the international organisation have complained to its board that Paul Wolfowitz, a married father of three, is so besotted with Oxford-educated Shaha Riza he cannot be impartial. Extraordinarily, they claim she played a key role in pushing the 61-year-old Pentagon official into the Iraq War. And the row comes amid claims that Wolfowitz's wife Clare once warned George Bush of the threat to national security any infidelity by her husband could cause. Wolfowitz married Clare Selgin in 1968. But they have lived separately since 2001, after allegations of an affair with an employee at the School of Advanced International Studies where he was dean for seven years. According to one Republican Administration insider, Clare was so upset by rumours about the affair that she wrote to then President Elect Bush, saying if the story were true it could pose a national security risk. Yesterday, she refused to comment on whether her husband had been unfaithful before their separation, saying: "I really do not want to share this with you." She also refused to confirm her marital status - reports of his appointment repeatedly describe Wolfowitz as divorced but The Mail on Sunday has been unable to find any records. Asked if she is separated or divorced, Clare replied: "That's my business."
Nancy, an question regarding the Uranus square of the ASC. In your explanaton of historical data, are you using the DSC on purpose as a correlation? That seems a bit confusing, just wondering if you are drawing-up something there that I'm missing. This is great stuff, thanks for following up on it. Posted by: Vis on March 25, 2005 03:14 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,5156316-103677,00.html Posted by: wv on March 25, 2005 03:22 PMspeaking as one with no astrological expertise, I always find your articles absolutely fascinating Nancy. You have such a teaching ability in the way you write, and it is so helpful. I come back to re-read your analyses many times, along with the comments of those much more knowledgeable than I. Thanks for sharing your work here, and thank you everyone for helping me to learn. Posted by: Peg on March 25, 2005 03:41 PMhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A64317-2005Mar24.html Posted by: Teresa on March 25, 2005 03:44 PMM. we were putting up the Wolfowitz article out of London at the same time and so I quickly took mine down. Wolfowitz was born on Dec. 22, 1943 in New York. His Mars is at 7 degree Gemini (conj. the US Uranus) living in this country creates the "warrior" for Mr. Wolfowitz, and Uranus is squaring that point right now. The Full Moon falls very closely across his Neptune. With transiting Sun oppose Neptune and on a Full Moon aspect the likelihood of a "secret" being revealed is fairly high from a little one to a big one, this is a big one. Europe holds the largest block of voting shares for the World Bank even if the US typically picks the candidate to head it up. It will be a big signal of the power shifting away from the US if Europe stands against Bush's candidate, or forces him to pick someone else. Posted by: Sally on March 25, 2005 03:45 PMWV, Americans don't advocate for their loved ones... they don't want to talk about death and dying and it is not only the xtians... imo... Posted by: Jo on March 25, 2005 03:49 PM
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is This A New Dark Age? Then come those times when you read about a 16-year-old girl slashing the throat of a 75-year-old woman for no apparent reason, a woman who was merely walking with her husband near a Berkeley public garden and it's right next to the one about the 16-year-old kid smiling and waving and donning a bulletproof vest before shooting nine people and himself to death in a remote, poverty-stricken region of Minnesota and you can feel the numbness like a wave. And alongside that is the morbid and insipid case of poor Terry Schiavo and the equally insipid Bush evangelicals who trumpet the backward morality of maintaining her vegetative brain-dead state and the sad, tormented parents who can't face reality and the insidious GOP that has zero shame in using her decrepit body as a political football and that kowtows to its pseudo-religious contingency by making humiliating and rather illegal congressional maneuvers to try and keep a feeding tube in place and you just go, oh my God just stop already. And it all seems to line up with one of those weird phases when everyone in your own life seems to be getting hit by something tragic or sad or somehow ridiculously painful -- a sister with a neck trauma, a best friend going through major depression, a parent struck by illness, certainly almost everyone on the progressive Left feeling sucker-punched and morally eviscerated -- friends and family and loved ones all seeming to suffer in ways you don't want to imagine and it's all against a backdrop of more war dead and more violence and the most bleak and Bush-ravaged era in recent American history and you say to yourself, what the hell is going on? Because something in you knows. Something in you senses there is more at play right now in the world than mere depressing coincidence, that all the war and disease and brutality has more surrounding it than mere chance or fluke. Do you think? Do you feel it? ... (click here to read the rest) (Full URL: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2005/03/25/notes032505.DTL&nl=fix) Posted by: wv on March 25, 2005 03:50 PMSally, I read the "news" about Wolfie and his Arabian girlfriend during the runup to the invasion... it was in all the Brit papers, but nothing here... tPluto has flung it up here, but I bet few take notice of it or its ramifications. I don't really care what the man does in his bedroom, but again, there is hyprocrisy here... Posted by: Jo on March 25, 2005 03:56 PMSally- I'd love to say it was a "great minds" moment, but this merc retro and I don't want to be zizzed by my computer. I think the Wolfie debacle has potential to be a very big thing, knocked out because he can't keep it zipped. How deliciously tawdry. And this is the sort of thing that will follow one of the architects of the vain glorious war. Also, I get the feeling that there are workings behind the scene, more than the staff rumblings, to get rid of him. Could be another domino. Fingers crossed! Posted by: M. on March 25, 2005 04:07 PMwv, this SFgate article was far more articulate than the missive i just wrote to a friend. Both were in the same vein. Equally, it is reflective of what all AW writers have been alluding to. Even if some of the above mentioned take direct hits, there are other vermin waiting to take control most notably Cheney who has been quite silent of late (given the fact that he too is being temporarily chainsawed by the current energies in his chart). I do not intend to sound pessimistic. Rather, i'm morbidly (i admit) curious about who would be Bush's replacement were he to be assassinated, who would step into Wolfie's place should his confirmation to World Bank be terminated. Though these would be significant events i'm not convinced that it will make a difference at this time. Further, the media is so entrenched in deceit any redemptive insight on their part will be dealt with swiftly and surely (id est Rather). Instead, my instinctual feeling is that we must go through an entirely bleak period before we understand fully the great folly of this debacle. karen Posted by: farrout on March 25, 2005 05:57 PMWeren't there reports that Pres Clinton wanted to All that running around with the evil father - and he doesn't get the appointment? Certainly he is far more capable in charge of global finances than the neo-con and absolutely acceptable to the all the other world's nations. What happened to that?- Posted by: Pallas18 on March 25, 2005 06:01 PMPallas, The rumors had to do with the United Nations not the World Bank for Clinton... you're right, though, bad company Bill's been keeping... Posted by: Jo on March 25, 2005 06:06 PM"... Shaha Ali Riza is a senior World Bank official who was born in Tunis, " google... now you know why Wolfowitz is the nominee.
http://forum.truthout.org/blog/story/2005/3/25/10383/0260 Posted by: wv on March 25, 2005 06:49 PMThe universe works in strange ways and politics make strange bedfellows..very strange bedfellows. Have you been listening to Randall Terry threatening "we worked for 10 years to give you the power and now you refuse to it - and you will pay" ? Would you believe it could be the fundamentalists who will us unseat this administration? I wrote this on 3/3. Who could have imagined the 4th house activity of the Spring Equinox chart set for DC with Mars conjunct Chiron at 0 and 1 Aquarius in the 4th would be about the open wound question of life or death. ********** "But something is in this chart that bothers me more." "Mars is opposition the Moon -but more worrisome is that if you draw the chart at DC for the moment the Sun enters Aries Mars is at 0 Aquarius conjunct Chiron at 1 Aquarius -- in the 4th house" "And Mars/Chiron will oppose the Moon exactly around 9:30 PM on Saturday evening March 19th, the same evening Mercury Turns Retrograde at about 7:15 PM." ( was that the day that Ms Schiavo's feeding tube was unplugged ? Does the Mars/Chiron represent an attack, violence against the feminine, or nurturing? Does Mars/Chiron represent a quick wounding?) "Since Mars in Aquarius is associated with earthquakes, accidents, and even attacks in this chart set for DC, Mars in the 4th house of "home" rules the Aries 7th house of open enemies , these type of events can be expected to occur in the US" The 4th house also is the end of matters, matters of death (who would have thought it would be this?) - and since it is the fundamentalists who are fighting the courts and Washington, and because this Spring Equinox chart represents the next 3 months, although some say the year - - - the liberal left may have new allies Sorry, corrections to two sentences above -in caps Mercury is retrograde Have you been listening to Randall Terry threatening "we worked for 10 years to give you the power and now you refuse to USE it - and you will pay" ? Would you believe it could be the fundamentalists who will HELP us unseat this administration?
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/printer_032505Z.shtml Posted by: wv on March 25, 2005 07:17 PMWV, that's okay. there's a payback going on. Last week or so Sharon made the public announcement that they will not attack Iran's nuclear works. Essentially saying, "Hey George, we are not And Hersh says the US plans to bomb Iran in June. Posted by: Pallas18 on March 25, 2005 07:22 PMMarch 27, 2005 Cecil B. DeMille's epic is known for the parting of its Technicolor Red Sea, for the religiosity of its dialogue (Anne Baxter's Nefretiri to Charlton Heston's Moses: "You can worship any God you like as long as I can worship you.") and for a Golden Calf scene that DeMille himself described as "an orgy Sunday-school children can watch." But this year the lovable old war horse has a relevance that transcends camp. At a time when government, culture, science, medicine and the rule of law are all under threat from an emboldened religious minority out to remake America according to its dogma, the half-forgotten show business history of "The Ten Commandments" provides a telling back story. As DeMille readied his costly Paramount production for release a half-century ago, he seized on an ingenious publicity scheme. In partnership with the Fraternal Order of Eagles, a nationwide association of civic-minded clubs founded by theater owners, he sponsored the construction of several thousand Ten Commandments monuments throughout the country to hype his product. The Pharaoh himself - that would be Yul Brynner - participated in the gala unveiling of the Milwaukee slab. Heston did the same in North Dakota. Bizarrely enough, all these years later, it is another of these DeMille-inspired granite monuments, on the grounds of the Texas Capitol in Austin, that is a focus of the Ten Commandments case that the United States Supreme Court heard this month. We must wait for the court's ruling on whether the relics of a Hollywood relic breach the separation of church and state. Either way, it's clear that one principle, so firmly upheld by DeMille, has remained inviolate no matter what the courts have to say: American moguls, snake-oil salesmen and politicians looking to score riches or power will stop at little if they feel it is in their interests to exploit God to achieve those ends. While sometimes God racketeers are guilty of the relatively minor sin of bad taste - witness the crucifixion-nail jewelry licensed by Mel Gibson - sometimes we get the demagoguery of Father Coughlin or the big-time cons of Jimmy Swaggart and Jim Bakker. The religio-hucksterism surrounding the Schiavo case makes DeMille's Hollywood crusades look like amateur night. This circus is the latest and most egregious in a series of cultural shocks that have followed Election Day 2004, when a fateful exit poll question on "moral values" ignited a take-no-prisoners political grab by moral zealots. During the commercial interruptions on "The Ten Commandments" last weekend, viewers could surf over to the cable news networks and find a Bible-thumping show as only Washington could conceive it. Congress was floating such scenarios as staging a meeting in Ms. Schiavo's hospital room or, alternatively, subpoenaing her, her husband and her doctors to a hearing in Washington. All in the name of faith. Like many Americans, I suspect, I tried to picture how I would have reacted if a bunch of smarmy, camera-seeking politicians came anywhere near a hospital room where my own relative was hooked up to life support. I imagined summoning the Clint Eastwood of "Dirty Harry," not "Million Dollar Baby." But before my fantasy could get very far, star politicians with the most to gain from playing the God card started hatching stunts whose extravagant shamelessness could upstage any humble reverie of my own. Senator Bill Frist, the Harvard-educated heart surgeon with presidential aspirations, announced that watching videos of Ms. Schiavo had persuaded him that her doctors in Florida were mistaken about her vegetative state - a remarkable diagnosis given that he had not only failed to examine the patient ostensibly under his care but has no expertise in the medical specialty, neurology, relevant to her case. No less audacious was Tom DeLay, last seen on "60 Minutes" a few weeks ago deflecting Lesley Stahl's questions about his proximity to allegedly criminal fund-raising by saying he would talk only about children stranded by the tsunami. Those kids were quickly forgotten as he hitched his own political rehabilitation to a brain-damaged patient's feeding tube. Adopting a prayerful tone, the former exterminator from Sugar Land, Tex., took it upon himself to instruct "millions of people praying around the world this Palm Sunday weekend" to "not be afraid." The president was not about to be outpreached by these saps. The same Mr. Bush who couldn't be bothered to interrupt his vacation during the darkening summer of 2001, not even when he received a briefing titled "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.," flew from his Crawford ranch to Washington to sign Congress's Schiavo bill into law. The bill could have been flown to him in Texas, but his ceremonial arrival and departure by helicopter on the White House lawn allowed him to showboat as if he had just landed on the deck of an aircraft carrier. Within hours he turned Ms. Schiavo into a slick applause line at a Social Security rally. "It is wise to always err on the side of life," he said, wisdom that apparently had not occurred to him in 1999, when he mocked the failed pleas for clemency of Karla Faye Tucker, the born-again Texas death-row inmate, in a magazine interview with Tucker Carlson. These theatrics were foretold. Culture is often a more reliable prophecy than religion of where the country is going, and our culture has been screaming its theocratic inclinations for months now. The anti-indecency campaign, already a roaring success, has just yielded a new chairman of the Federal Communications Commission, Kevin J. Martin, who had been endorsed by the Parents Television Council and other avatars of the religious right. The push for the sanctity of marriage (or all marriages except Terri and Michael Schiavo's) has led to the banishment of lesbian moms on public television. The Armageddon-fueled worldview of the "Left Behind" books extends its spell by the day, soon to surface in a new NBC prime-time mini-series, "Revelations," being sold with the slogan "The End is Near." All this is happening while polls consistently show that at most a fifth of the country subscribes to the religious views of those in the Republican base whom even George Will, speaking last Sunday on ABC's "This Week," acknowledged may be considered "extremists." In that famous Election Day exit poll, "moral values" voters amounted to only 22 percent. Similarly, an ABC News survey last weekend found that only 27 percent of Americans thought it was "appropriate" for Congress to "get involved" in the Schiavo case and only 16 percent said it would want to be kept alive in her condition. But a majority of American colonists didn't believe in witches during the Salem trials either - any more than the Taliban reflected the views of a majority of Afghans. At a certain point - and we seem to be at that point - fear takes over, allowing a mob to bully the majority over the short term. (Of course, if you believe the end is near, there is no long term.) That bullying, stoked by politicians in power, has become omnipresent, leading television stations to practice self-censorship and high school teachers to avoid mentioning "the E word," evolution, in their classrooms, lest they arouse fundamentalist rancor. The president is on record as saying that the jury is still out on evolution, so perhaps it's no surprise that The Los Angeles Times has uncovered a three-year-old "religious rights" unit in the Justice Department that investigated a biology professor at Texas Tech because he refused to write letters of recommendation for students who do not accept evolution as "the central, unifying principle of biology." Cornelia Dean of The New York Times broke the story last weekend that some Imax theaters, even those in science centers, are now refusing to show documentaries like "Galápagos" or "Volcanoes of the Deep Sea" because their references to Darwin and the Big Bang theory might antagonize some audiences. Soon such films will disappear along with biology textbooks that don't give equal time to creationism. James Cameron, producer of "Volcanoes" (and, more famously, the director of "Titanic"), called this development "obviously symptomatic of our shift away from empiricism in science to faith-based science." Faith-based science has in turn begat faith-based medicine that impedes stem-cell research, not to mention faith-based abstinence-only health policy that impedes the prevention of unwanted pregnancies and diseases like AIDS. Faith-based news is not far behind. Ashley Smith, the 26-year-old woman who was held hostage by Brian Nichols, the accused Atlanta courthouse killer, has been canonized by virtually every American news organization as God's messenger because she inspired Mr. Nichols to surrender by talking about her faith and reading him a chapter from Rick Warren's best seller, "The Purpose-Driven Life." But if she's speaking for God, what does that make Dennis Rader, the church council president arrested in Wichita's B.T.K. serial killer case? Was God instructing Terry Ratzmann, the devoted member of the Living Church of God who this month murdered his pastor, an elderly man, two teenagers and two others before killing himself at a weekly church service in Wisconsin? The religious elements of these stories, including the role played by the end-of-times fatalism of Mr. Ratzmann's church, are left largely unexamined by the same news outlets that serve up Ashley Smith's tale as an inspirational parable for profit. Next to what's happening now, official displays of DeMille's old Ten Commandments monuments seem an innocuous encroachment of religion into public life. It is a full-scale jihad that our government signed onto last weekend, and what's most scary about it is how little was heard from the political opposition. The Harvard Law School constitutional scholar Laurence Tribe pointed out this week that even Joe McCarthy did not go so far as this Congress and president did in conspiring to "try to undo the processes of a state court." But faced with McCarthyism in God's name, most Democratic leaders went into hiding and stayed silent. Prayers are no more likely to revive their spines than poor Terri Schiavo's brain.
Vis - I am not sure I understand your question. I mention the Descendant because natal Uranus is conjunct the Descendant, thus opposed to the Ascendant and thereby coloring it and the national identity. The historical data I used were mostly Uranus returns expanded to include the crossing of the Descendant. I also used one of the transiting squares. It is not an exhaustive study of all the transits, and none of the crossings of the Ascendant are included though they would be interesting in and of themselves. I just thought the two Uranus returns and the Civil Rights era aspect were the most illustrative. I am sure not all the other Uranus transits were as dramatic and may not be clearly "rebellious" times from a cursory look at the history books, just as the rebellions of the coming year may not be dramatic enough in a historical sense to show up in the history books of the future. I am not sure this answers what you asked. If not, please ask again so I am clear. Thanks.
RAM DAS NEEDS OUR HELP! PLEASE CHECK THIS OUT AND SEND IT AROUND: http://www.drwaynedyer.com/articles/index.cfm Posted by: Nancy on March 25, 2005 08:19 PMhttp://www.nydailynews.com/news/wn_report/story/293376p...
TAMPA - As Terri Schiavo weakens and legal remedies peter out, tension here is intensifying. Some activists are making ugly threats, making up "Wanted" posters for lawmakers and handing out the home addresses of judges who rejected legal appeals to keep Schiavo alive. "I am afraid," said state Sen. Frederica Wilson (D-Miami), who has received numerous death threats by phone and mail because she voted against a measure to reinsert Schiavo's feeding tube. "We're talking about the sanctity of life, and threatening my life." ...snip... Popular right-wing Web sites have had to post prominent warnings against threats of violence on their discussion boards after calls for the armed "liberation" of Terri Schiavo from her hospice and comments suggesting that if her husband were taken out of the picture, guardianship would revert to her parents, who want to keep her alive.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/25/politics/25fund.html Posted by: wv on March 25, 2005 09:04 PM
http://www.nbc13.com/news/4317443/detail.html Posted by: wv on March 25, 2005 09:14 PMY'all still wondering about what kind of people support *...? Think about it... they would 'kill' and do shoot physicians who perform legitimate abortions... they threaten and will harm those judges who do 'judge' as they do... they profess to be Christian, to believe in God... and they yearn for the day He will return and vaporize Jews and all who are not 'born again'... On this Good Friday, they are threatening the lives of individuals who are interpreting the law, the husband of Terri and many others... not to mention those who are anti-war and dare to criticize * and the fascists... And they will be in church on Sunday, professing 'Christ is Risen'... in their new finery purchased at Wal-Mart, afterwards eat heartily at the nearest all you can eat buffet... and then sit in front of the tube to hear the latest from Faux Noos... hit the computer keyboard and blast their venom across the planet... And some people wonder why the rest of the world hates us... it's a no-brainer! Posted by: Jo on March 25, 2005 09:52 PMBarbara *... "As for the current chief executive, his mother jokes that when he was a boy, she "just hoped he'd grow up." I'm sure the reporter misquoted. I'm sure she said "when he was a man, I just hoped he'd grow up... and I'm still hoping." Hope springs eternal Barbara... all of us share your hope... most of us realize it is futile though. Posted by: Jo on March 25, 2005 09:57 PMBarbara's little boy has never "gotten it", doesn't get it now, and will never get it. Four days later: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=613799 Posted by: Teresa on March 25, 2005 10:41 PMThere is a lot going on in Ohio and I've been watching it closely. The truth is trying to get out. Pluto just turned retrograde, and as we have seen, no representative of dogmatic rule.... no Pope, no petty tyrant, no government... was able to force the decision over life and death. All the martial might of Aries might have brought it all to a 'head'. In the end, it has been left up to the person, herself, even though it was not conscious. JM, Speaking of pushing, I have seen reports on blogs across the internet that the three 'little' networks are busily inciting the Fundies to riot by focusing on spokespeople who have no real info on Terri but who have instead been tools of disinformation... a man went into a gun store with a box cutter and threatened the owner, saying he needed a gun to 'rescue Terri'... he had just left the hospice where other folks have gathered with water insisting it be given to her and threatening to storm the place... We have been hoping for a revolt of the people against * and the fascists. Now it appears we may get a revolt... of the Fundies against the law, and a possibility of violence thrown in!!! Posted by: Jo on March 25, 2005 11:50 PMThe frenzy that has built up, thanks to the media whipping up the anger and hatred so close to the surface with today's fundamentalists, is going to explode in some kind of violence today or tomorrow under this Full Moon. I grew up in a very small town and we had one mentally ill and homeless person and every Full Moon he would walk around town saying in a sing song voice "someone's gonna die tonight." And then he would laugh giving full high and loud giving full vent to his emotional insanity. I haven't thought of that in 50 years but I eerily heard that sing song voice going off in my head today as I looked at this Full Moon with the Sun/Moon falling across the 2nd and 8th house cusp and squaring the US Natal Jupiter, Venus squaring her natal place, plus Uranus is minutes away from a square to the 1776 natal spot. The media has whipped this situation and is seemingly trying to get a mob reaction, I hope they don't and this full moon influence passes by tomorrow night. I am happy to see the asteroid Pallas at 1 degree Libra sitting on the biggest black hole in the universe. I hope she throws all warrior tendencies wanting to be expressed right down into that hole. Posted by: Sally on March 26, 2005 12:19 AMOMG, Sally! What a story! About the town crier. Were you afraid of him? In some ways, this violence might be an awakening, bringing it home where it belongs, rather than in some distant land where the people can avoid responsibility. All in preparation for our progressed Mars going retro, and the coming civil discord. The fundies have been whipping up the frenzy for a long time. It has to go somewhere.I would just hope for the rage to be released in increments. And whatever happens, there is enough Libra around to ensure some moments of peace. Jo, that bulge in the rug is becoming huge and quite obvious. Posted by: jm on March 26, 2005 12:31 AMPlus, Fundies grabbing guns and shooting them off in the name of Jesus makes sense. Let them be themselves and reveal the truth for all to see. Hopefully. Maybe. I agree Sally, the crazies are going to get violent. I'm feeling very sad. Posted by: Peg on March 26, 2005 12:42 AMJo, The thought occurred to me.... they might have to steal an extra heavy duty Persian rug to squash that bulge. Posted by: jm on March 26, 2005 01:03 AMI agree, I think there will be violence - how can it be avoided with these aspects and these loonies - they are calling for either of the shrubs to issue executive orders - dimbot doesn't have very good aspects right now at all - he has a Mars Uranus opposition - and a Mars opposition the Ascendant opposition in his relocation chart to DC, with the eclips on his MC, in Crawford his Ascendant changes to 7 Leo with Mars at 3 Aquarius Have you thought of the circus and hullabaloo scene they'll make if the poor woman passes on JM, You're right... Corporate Media has done such an excellent job as fascist handmaiden, the 'bulge' is bigger than the one on *'s back during the debates and bigger than the pile of brush * has been clearing in Crawford... Sally, I have very bad vibes about this mess... I have been haunted by your comment a couple of weeks ago that articles were coming on the eclipse etc. but that you personally were concerned about the coming full moon... Namaste Posted by: Jo on March 26, 2005 01:11 AMI can feel the tension building. Sooner or later something will blow. I wonder if Shylurker would like company under the bed. Posted by: Teresa on March 26, 2005 01:23 AMIt has been a while since I posted here and I am not here for long, but wanted to drop a few words off. Nancy: I have very much appreciated your pieces “Three Card Monte” and your most recent post regarding the land of the free. Thank you. Sally: I hope your son and son-in-law have gotten you firmly established in computer-land again. I can imagine how frustrating that must have been to you at the time. Thank you for continuing to keep the ship afloat. I am still having photosensitivity problems...thus can not be on my computer or watch tv for long periods. Some days about 30 minutes is about all I can do at a time. A very good friend in the HF field sent me some things to try out, and I have found that homeopathic solutions for thyroid and adrenal gland are helping. As it turned out, my thyroid finally gave up the ghost mid January, and I think that was the giant red flag, but also a light to show, possibly, how to get the hell out of here! I’ve been reading a lot and I wanted to share just one piece with you. Then I will be off and let you get back to your discussions . __________________________________________ Much has been written in regard to the disaster on Mt. Everest in ‘96. I just finished this book: Touching My Father’s Soul: A Sherpa’s Journey to the Top of Everest by Jamling Tenzing Norgay. His father, Tenzing Norgay, was the first to summit Everest, with Edmund Hillary, in the 50s. Jamling writes in the chapter A Lesson in Impermanence: America is a young country with a dynamic and, one might say, immature or formative culture. In terms of technical and material progress, it is far ahead of the developing world. In terms of culture and tradition, it is less advanced. I felt that meaning and connection were missing from my life in the United States, as if the country were lacking a spiritual core. All momentum and no center. Like many Sherpas, I assumed that America had become prosperous and developed by virtue of its spiritual progress. But those of us who have visited the country find ourselves asking where that sense of sacredness and spirituality has gone. Its absence, I can understand now, is the source of the restlessness, dissatisfaction, and confusion that I saw afflicting many Americans. Wealth and material possessions haven’t eased their malaise. Perhaps they have only aggravated it. I have been with Hindus from Nepal and India when they visit a metropolis such as New York City for the first time, and they are awed by the technology - the airplanes, bridges, and skyscrapers - to the point of being overwhelmed. Standing in the cement and steel canyons of the city, they feel petrified and insignificant. But because of our teachings in impermanence, Himalayan Buddhists are only fleetingly impressed by such manmade creations. We can peer up at all of it and know that before long - soon, in fact, by the reckoning of the eons and eras by which we measure time - it will all crumble and be gone. _____________________ And a final statement from Jamling, a Sherpa Buddhist aphorism: “We shouldn’t believe that small wrongdoing can do no harm, because even a small spark can ignite a giant pile of hay. Similarly, the value of the smallest good deeds should not be underestimated, for even tiny flakes of snow, falling one atop another, can blanket the tallest mountains in pure whiteness.” Happy Mercury retrograde and Saturn direct! Best to you all. OG
I read an editorial today where the guy said if she dies this weekend it will look something like the dawn of Armageddon. Sometimes he would scare us jm, but he never hurt anyone and we were only really scared on the Full Moon right before Halloween because his laugh was hysterical and sounded truly insane and the drama of Halloween made it all seem creepy. But mostly we got used to his rants and it marked the Full Moons for us and when you walked by him while he was sing songing out, he would stop, bow and say "hello lil Miss or lil Mister" and resume his chant, but it never failed to send a slight chill up the spine. Like I said, I haven't thought of him for 50 years until I looked at this full Moon chart today. I've seen worse full Moon's could see violence in them (and it usually happened) maybe I thought of him because I feel as if I am watching full blown insanity in this whole thing. From the families, to the fundies hysteria, to the Congress, to the media, all of it. In the meantime we are not discussing the children killed in Wisconsin and the problems with guns and recognizing a child in deep trouble, Iraq goes on, other people are too poor to have any kind of health care and are dying when they didn't need to. This whole thing is insane and maybe that's why I suddenly thought of his wailing song. But there is something really wrong here. Posted by: Sally on March 26, 2005 01:26 AMOld Granny, it's good to have you and your wisdom even if it's for a few minutes. Peace and health to you. Posted by: Sally on March 26, 2005 01:30 AMI think the wailing song is appropriate considering the hundred thousand+ dead. Maybe Terri's death is symbolic and a release point for this grief coming so close to Christ's death for the collective sin. Pluto stationing. Man against man. Man against his own God. It makes me feel humble. Posted by: jm on March 26, 2005 01:46 AMI've so enjoyed the latest articles (I loved the technical aspects of Nancy's latest) and have been happily burying myself in everyone's comments and musings. So, here are mine: In watching the "Schiavo Show" down South, I have the awful and eerie feeling that I'm watching, truly, the Death of America. The parents so wrapped up in what they want that they've forgotten about what their daughter might need. The Fundies spending precious moments of their lives picketing a hospice -- there must be other sick people and their families in this hospice who, in the hopes of ending their days quietly with dignity, are instead pelted by the constant vitriol and hatred spewed by these Protesters -- ,hungry for the blood of innocent Judges, Democrats, Republicans(!), and anyone else who disagrees with them. And, judging by the occasional pictures I've seen, teaching their children to hate as well! And the Media, as useless as ever, whipping the whole mess into a frothy peak in the hopes of getting some much needed ratings so they can charge more advertising dollars. It's all very sad, slightly overwhelming and just re-affirms my belief that it's best to step away from the "news" and bury oneself in some very good books right now. Terri will Pass Into Light, her parents will continue to metamorphose their grief into rage and allow themselves to be used by people with questionable ethics and large wallets, Michael Schiavo will probably end up assasinated by some angry Christian and the Republicans will be desperately trying to save face and change the subject before the 2006 Elections ... which will be voted on Diebold Machines anyway. Oh, to live in Interesting Times. Posted by: Jonathan on March 26, 2005 01:53 AMYes, Old Granny's words were like a calm oasis in Old Granny, Here we go Pat Boone on Larry King misquoting Jefferson and Lincoln saying the judicial branch is to be feared because they can become despots...and that Lincoln and Jefferson fired many of them ...Barney Frank correcting him and saying that never happened - and who you are talking about is Rehnquist and Scalia and Thomas also - So again we come back to the goal and propaganda the fundamentalists have been fed : ( Roe V Wade ) the judicial branch must go to get out of the way of Right to Life... At the same time the parents are pointing fingers ____________ The media and the fundamentalists are forcing the entire country the emotional tearing of going through a death watch.....interesting that the administration allows this, but not the coffins of children coming back from Iraq. If ever there was a time for Jesus Christ to come back and overturn tables and pews in churches,,,this is it. Posted by: Pallas18 on March 26, 2005 02:48 AMThis you have to hear. Rev. Mahoney has compared Jeb to Pontius Pilate I knew that was coming. Posted by: Pallas18 on March 26, 2005 03:09 AM
no wonder the world is mad, mad, mad! http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,5156859-110881,00.html Posted by: wv on March 26, 2005 03:40 AMAttention! Attention! So....now it is testing chemicals on humans? http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/031505Gerard/031505gerard.html http://www.selvesandothers.org/article9176.html http://www.chej.org/MoreonCHEERS.htm http://www.interventionmag.com/cms/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=1037 http://route66.dailykos.com/story/2005/3/24/0950/83932 the EPA link: http://www.epa.gov/cheers/ Posted by: Pat C on March 26, 2005 03:43 AM
He denied reports that he had said there was no such understanding between the US and the Israelis. He said he was reiterating pledges by President Bush on the issue. US policy is the support that the president has given for the retention by Israel of major Israeli population centres [in the West Bank] as an outcome of negotiations During a visit by Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon to the White House last April, President George W Bush said a permanent peace deal would have to reflect "demographic realities" in the West Bank regarding Israel's settlements. Palestinian officials criticised Mr Kurtzer's comments. "The United States can't decide on behalf of the Palestinians and can't decide final status negotiation issues by itself. "We urge the United States to have Israel stop settlement activity," senior Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat said. Expansion planned Earlier this week, the Israeli government said it was planning to build 3,500 extra homes at the West Bank settlement of Maale Adumin, to the east of Jerusalem. Palestinian officials called on the US to help block the expansion, saying if it went ahead it could prevent East Jerusalem becoming the capital of a future Palestinian state. The international community considers all settlements in Gaza and the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, as illegal under international law, though Israel disputes this. About 400,000 Jewish settlers live in Gaza and the West Bank, including East Jerusalem - alongside more than four million Palestinians. Israel has occupied Gaza and the West Bank, including east Jerusalem, since 1967.
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Posted by: Starrynights/SN on March 26, 2005 04:45 AMthe religious extremists are seething. there was a notice earlier today that the fbi found some "moran" seeking people to attack the federal judge and terry s's husband. well, if that's one incident revealed to the public, you can bet that there are more. these people have worked themselves into a lather. they can't back off. bush is totally identified with them. when terry s passes, the lunatics will "demonstrate" their ire. i hope that this does not happen, i pray it does not. but if it does, the clock will accelerate on the end of bush and all of his buddies. when you act boldly, outrageously, with a 20-30% support base, you are screwed. don't tell me about hitler starting with 10-20 people. when he took over, he had massive support. now bush is at 43% (and falling) and he's tied himself to a cause with only 30% support, one that is becoming a defining moment. watch bush's next public opinion polls, i bet he's below 40. hooray, time for these idiots to pay the piper, meet their masters, and tuck their tails between their back legs and walk away. Posted by: mike on March 26, 2005 04:49 AMHere, here, Mike. And here is a bit of Neptune: "Behind the eight ball, octopuses make a sneaky break. Octopuses, known for using camouflage to avoid predators, have been observed apparently trying to sneak away by walking on two arms while pretending to be a bunch of algae." Or is it octopi, or octopussies? Posted by: jm on March 26, 2005 05:15 AMRev. Mahoney has compared Jeb to Pontius Pilate and Terri Schiavo to Jesus Christ... *** *** ** Have been thinking about that, a lot, since coup 2k. Today's "good Christians" would scream for Barabas, too. Jesus would be considered a [dirty] liberal, America-hating raghead. We'd want to "nuke his ass." It wouldn't bother us if he was anal-raped with a cattle prod and led around on a leash so that "our brave troops could let off a little steam." Just heard on the news that many are continuing to err on the side of life by calling for Michael Schiavo's head. Rewards are being offered, one is $250k. Part of me can't help but wonder if this would've been different were the situation reversed. If Michael Schiavo had made it clear enough for ONE judge to agree that this is what he would have wanted under such circumstance, would his wishes have been honoured? Would Terri have had to fight for 15 years to see that his "instructions" were followed? Would she have had to convince another 8 judges after the first? So much paternalism in this case. As though Terri couldn't really have wanted what she said she did [and said she did strongly enough to convince 9 judges]... Just a little gal, The word religion comes from the Latin re-ligio meaning to re-join, make whole again. The core message of the world’s great religio-philosophical systems, Eastern and Western, is to forget about yourself, lose yourself, and so, in the process, make contact with the much more important truth of the timeless awareness of the universe (the one). Homo Sapiens Sapiens are struggling with ‘consciousness’ — with the false notion of Self. ‘Religion’ is defined by Webster as the service and worship of God or the supernatural. Instead of the individual working to rejoin, become aware of the ‘wholeness’ of all… we have individuals joining ‘groups’ that are focused on division, separateness… to the exclusion of all others… creating the ‘other’ as evil, unwanted and unnecessary. Perhaps there is some benefit in the concept of ‘religion’ — but the manifested established ‘religions’ have done great harm to our evolution, imho. Spirituality on the other hand promotes in essence the individual struggle with the quest for ‘oneness’ — imho. Historically, politicians have used ‘religion’ as a tool to manipulate and control. Ethics would have been and is a better tool to bring about a value-oriented society. Religion creates demagogues [Etymology: Greek dEmagOgos, from dEmos people (perhaps akin to Greek daiesthai to divide) + agOgos leading, from agein to lead ]. Thus we have wedge issues like abortion and gay marriage used to thrust a dry drunk coke-snorting megalomaniac into the White House [New Latin1 : a mania for great or grandiose performance 2 : a delusional mental disorder that is marked by infantile feelings of personal omnipotence and grandeur] who has ordered the bombing and death of innocents, as well as the torture and abuse of many, and recently cut short his recreational activities to fly in like superman and rescue a damsel in distress (or was it more an attempt by Pluto/Hades to kidnap Persephone?) , cheered on by his religious fanatic core supporters. [Apparently my quest for ‘oneness’ is not completed!] Sound familar? It should. This ‘passion’ play has been enacted countless times and is stored in the psyche of the collective… push the right buttons, and instant replay. Posted by: Jo on March 26, 2005 03:06 PMJo, imho your ho is reflective of many who believe that this temporal energy is for the express purpose of learning (in various ways) those universal principles. Yes, this play is enacted over and over. This is where the "individual" enters stage right for it is incumbunt upon each of us to learn that the Oneness (the higher consciousness, God, etc.) is US. I think of the irony that Christ was of the Middle East something that seems to be lost on all of the chest-thumping holier than though energy. Having been duped my self on several occasions and arguing, acting out to support wholly ridiculous assumptions i feel a certain sadness regarding those who live their lives around assumptions that do nothing but imprison them. karen Posted by: farrout on March 26, 2005 04:26 PMWow....yes, Merc retro....moon full (I posted back a bit about ordering a Pottery Barn order...and UPS losing it....reordering it, for delivery yesterday....still hasn't come, been two weeks since original order. No wonder they didn't make their figures on Friday!) Old Granny....peace and good health.... Two other things: it took B**hit 4 DAYS to issue condolences to the tribe in MN which suffered 10 deaths....to be sure, no political hay for him to make THERE....just disgusting. And that media beatified woman who was kidnapped at gunpoint by the killer from the courthouse. I understand she is a single mother....WHAT THE HELL WAS SHE DOING OUT AT 2 AM BUYING CIGARETTES? Did anyone else notice that? Geeze....maybe child protective services should check THAT one out.... As they say, it is the little things in life that count. Sally....loved the town crier story....reminds me of when I worked downtown LA between Broadway and Hill streets in the ad department. of the May Co...every day, a contingent of the crazies would make their circuits crying "you're going to go to hell!!!" and the sounds would reverberate like crazy thru the concrete canyons of the downtown buildings Then they would disappear into the smoke shop for their 'fags'. Meaning cigarettes, of course, as they used to be called.....not the other obnoxious term. And PS .....on thursday night I attended, with my daughter, a huge induction dinner for the San Mateo County Women of the year ....my friend was inducted (Developmentally disabled son, she has raised 2.5 mill to start 2 homes for independent living). There were 7 inductees in all, and 2 of them were young high school students. I mention this because they were both terrific ... and everyone there complimented them on what they were doing, and mentioned that the next generation was in good hands with them. The dinosaurs at my table and those around us looked at the floor and harrupmhed, being totally offended by the content of these speeches....one 16 year old is advocating for GLBT - she is the child of two lesbian mothers and grew up receiving death threats....she has become famous (Marina Gatto) for promoting understanding ...the other , Marcella Padilla, also 16, for promoting understanding of minorities. Trust me, these two will go far, despite their peers thinking otherwise and wishing they would go away....and eventually, these groups will undoubtedly, because of their passion, be a real driving forces in politics. The Hall of Fame Awards is sponsored by the local Board of Supervisors for the county and by the Commission on the Status of Women. (which isn't very good, is it?)
http://www.observer.com/pages/conason.asp Posted by: wv on March 26, 2005 06:11 PMIsn't it time for another terrorist scare to get GWB's numbers back up? Posted by: Teresa on March 26, 2005 06:12 PMSorry I don't have a link for this: Parents' Side Has Vilified Husband: The decreasing legal options for those who PINELLAS PARK, Fla. - "Michael, why are you afraid to let Terri The sign outside Woodside Hospice, where Terri Schiavo has been without Demonized by his in-laws, antiabortion activists and the religious Michael Schiavo has vehemently denied the accusations of abuse, greed Terri Schiavo, now 41, suffered a heart attack Feb. 25, 1990, the The heart attack temporarily cut off oxygen to her brain. Schiavo, now The exhaustive 2003 report by Jay Wolfson, professor of public health Wolfson further detailed the chain of events that led to a falling-out In these waning days of the conflict over who has the right to make a And with each passing day, the animosity has ratcheted higher and the "He's blocked her parents from visiting for months on end. He won't The 1993 medical malpractice award in response to a petition filed by Wolfson's report said there was "no evidence in the record of the trust Crowd psychology experts say demonizing those with opposing views is "This definitely tends to intensify over time," said Jack Aiello, a "The more strongly one side's beliefs are held, the more likely it is The attacks on his character have become talk-show fodder and Some have come to the husband's defense, despite the overwhelming "Michael has done everything possible for Terri over the years," said "He was a respiratory therapist before she had the accident, and you Michael Schiavo has given few interviews and could not be reached Other attempts this week to reach Michael Schiavo and his attorney, Michael Schiavo's brother, Brian, has also been critical of the But most of those sporadically standing vigil outside the hospice as He is compared with Scott Peterson, convicted of killing his pregnant Terri Schiavo's brother, Bobby Schindler, has used the spotlight to The round-the-clock protest of legal rulings against further medical Some have come from the Schindlers themselves. In a petition filed Feb. Michael Schiavo met Theresa Marie Schindler in 1982, when she was a Conservative groups and disabled advocacy organizations have "I, Michael Schiavo, Am Starving My Wife Today (and I feel good)," said In the St. Petersburg Times interview, Schiavo accused lawmakers of A few of those gathered outside the hospice this week supported the Said Tim Harmon, a Tampa hairstylist hoisting an "I support Michael Does anyone think her family cared any more about or respected Terri's wishes when she was "alive and kicking"? "Testimony provided by members of the Schindler family included very personal statements about their desire and intention to ensure that Theresa remain alive. Throughout the course of the litigation, deposition and trial testimony by members of the Schindler family voiced the disturbing belief that they would keep Theresa alive at any and all costs. Nearly gruesome examples were given, eliciting agreement by family members that in the event Theresa should contract diabetes and subsequent gangrene in each of her limbs, they would agree to amputate each limb, and would then, were she to be diagnosed with heart disease, perform open heart surgery. There was additional, difficult testimony that appeared to establish that despite the sad and undesirable condition of Theresa, the parents still derived joy from having her alive, even if Theresa might not be at all aware of her environment given the persistent vegetative state. Within the testimony, as part of the hypotheticals presented, Schindler family members stated that even if Theresa had told them of her intention to have artificial nutrition withdrawn, they would not do it. Throughout this painful and difficult trial, the family acknowledged that Theresa was in a diagnosed persistent vegetative state." http://floridahealthinfo.hsc.usf.edu/TheresaSchiavoFinalReport1December2003.pdf Posted by: vcz on March 26, 2005 06:39 PMBush's Uranus opposition to his Mars is now official. from the article: President Bush rewarded a key ally in the war on terrorism Friday by authorizing the sale of F-16 fighter jets to Pakistan, a move that reversed 15 years of policy begun under his father and that India warned would destabilize the volatile region. snip The administration move alters the equation in a part of the world where deep-seated religious and national animosities have resulted in a long, hair-trigger standoff between two nuclear-armed giants. India and Pakistan have fought three wars in the past half-century and have come close to the brink many more times, most recently in 2002 over the disputed region of Kashmir. Tensions have eased since then, and Musharraf plans his first visit to India in four years next month. snip "This is just a disastrous thing," said Pressler, who now sits on the board of an Indian technology company. "It raises Pakistan, a country that doesn't stand for anything we stand for, to the level of India," the world's largest democracy. "It has nothing to do with fighting terrorism." Instead, he said, "it gives Pakistan a delivery vehicle for its nuclear weapons." Posted by: Nancy on March 26, 2005 07:08 PMThe Corporate Media has given this stinkin circus more attention than it did the runup to the invasion of Iraq or to the death of 100,000 Iraqis... more than it has to the kidnapping of Haiti's Aristide or the Worldwide Rally held Feb 21, 2005, or the fact that 1,000,000 will probably die in the Sudan/Dufar regional wars... or to the death of 1,545+ American troops that have DIED --- are dead... not dying... Enough already! I'm sick to death of hearing about it... Posted by: Jo on March 26, 2005 07:23 PMNancy, Isn't Pakistan where OBL (who is probably DEAD) is said to be hiding? My, my what stupidity. And we want to bomb Iran because they are going to trade oil for Euros (not for their nuclear technology... that worries Israel, not the USA). Posted by: Jo on March 26, 2005 07:26 PMThe media is apparently trying to start mob violence. They are IMHO screaming "fire" in a crowded theater. That's against the law. It is at least misuse of the public airwaves....unless they are no longer considered public. Posted by: Pat C on March 26, 2005 07:29 PMJo: The Corporate Media has given this stinkin circus more attention than it did the runup to the invasion of Iraq or to the death of 100,000 Iraqis...more than it has to the kidnapping of Haiti's Aristide or the Worldwide Rally held Feb 21, 2005, or the fact that 1,000,000 will probably die in the Sudan/Dufar regional wars...or to the death of 1,545+ American troops that have DIED --- are dead... not dying...Enough already! I'm sick to death of hearing about it... vcz: Speaking as one who lives in Florida, most of us non-Floridiots became sick to death of hearing about it, many years ago. This dead horse has been beaten to a pulp then reconstituted to be beaten to death, yet again, ad nauseam. Now, because it's national news, it must be treated as though it's a brand new issue??? Speaking as a woman [who's had more than her share of "patriarchal noses" barge into her business], it galls me, no end, that Terri's wishes seem of least concern to all who have decided that this is their concern. I absolutely do not believe that politicians and fundies OR John & Jane Q. Public would have behaved this way regarding Michael Schiavo's [a man's] "final wishes." Speaking as one who holds an American passport and has read the Constitution and is familiar with basic civics...I'm speechless! Hopefully, this ridiculous episode will have far-reaching consequences for the neotheocons [and their ilk]. May they be foisted onto their own petards! Lord knows, they won't go willingly... vcz Posted by: vcz on March 26, 2005 07:53 PM
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http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20050325/1a_cover25_dom.art.htm Posted by: wv on March 26, 2005 08:52 PMFreepers mutiny after *'s remarks re immigration. Maybe this is the beginning of the end?!! Posted by: Jo on March 26, 2005 09:28 PMwv, I trust the Schindler's WILL get money off of this after their daughter dies when they write their book and do the talk-show circuit. The one million the Schiavo's were awarded is basically gone now. So the only money anyone could make would be to "write" a book about this whole ordeal. Even with her death, the story is far, far from over. (sigh) Posted by: Jonathan on March 26, 2005 09:36 PM
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,11069-1542390,00.html Posted by: wv on March 26, 2005 11:03 PM
http://www.newscorp.com/index2.html Regarding the article about Bush selling jets ot Pakistan, this "it gives Pakistan a delivery vehicle for its nuclear weapons." But we fuss about Iran? Posted by: Nancy on March 27, 2005 01:13 AMNancy, this administration has never shown a lot of common sense. It's always been "what's in it for me?" Posted by: Teresa on March 27, 2005 01:23 AMIn thinking about those "Christians" surrounding the Schiavo case and their begging for Terri to live, on the one hand, and posting bounties on the heads of her husband and the judges, on the other, something ironic occured to me: In French, the word for Christian is "crétien", a word very close in spelling to our own English word "cretin" which is how I usually think of the Christian Fundies who have divorced themselves from both true Christian thought and, in some cases, sanity. I don't know, but I got a good chuckle out of that one. :-) Posted by: Jonathan on March 27, 2005 01:37 AMGood one, Jonathan! I like that... Posted by: Jo on March 27, 2005 01:46 AMI think the innauguaration chart for the US 2005 in Washington, D.C. says it all. The ruler of the 14 Taurus ascendent (placidus houses) is Venus in the 9th. The Courts will rule. And Taurus can be quite stubborn. The mythology of Ceres is quite interesting in this regard. Ceres opposes the ascendent. I can't remember whose post it was, not too long ago, but the astrologer saw grieving. Parents grieving. Much grieving. Pluto and Mars, Ceres's dispositors are both in the eighth house, in Sag. which first led me to believe this might portend to foreign wars and death primarily, but I never thought about Terry Shiavo then and the religious zeal surrounding death and dying then. Ceres at 14 Scorpio makes a sextile to the Venus,Mercuy in the 9th repeating the message, that the courts will rule. The eclipse on April 8 will oppose the Jupiter and Vertex of this chart which are in the 6th house of health issues - for one possible meaning. Jupiter's functioning in the 6th house and in Libra also has legal remifications, but further suggests that the preservation and integration of our health service system is through the courts. Jupiter in Libra is clumsy, but's it's dispositer is also Venus in the 9th house of this chart. And Libra, a one on one lawsuit sign, now has a planet which implies the a much bigger world than "one on one." The sextile between Jupiter, Vertex at 18, 19 Libra and 18 Mars, 23 Pluto in Sag in the 8th only amplies the opportunity for zeal in all directions. The eclipse on April 8th will also trine Mars, Pluto in Sag. Might this be about when Terry Shiavo expires...I don't know. Just some ruminations. Have a Happy Easter, if possible. Posted by: Beasley on March 27, 2005 03:19 AMA clear example of Tom Delay's ethics, morals and grandstanding. If he were a Democrat this would be alllllll over the "news"! httotherp://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-delay27mar27,0,5710023.story?coll=la-home-headlines Posted by: Jonathan on March 27, 2005 03:23 AMOops! Here's the link: Posted by: Jonathan on March 27, 2005 03:24 AMSpeaking of that Mars Pluto conjunction, I think we are in danger of very warlike events in 2007 when Uranus opposes that Inaugural Mars. It will also be quincunx Bush's progressed Mars which is conjunct natal Jupiter at the same time!! This bodes poorly for us. Bush will be very aggressive and prone to his usual over-optimistic lack of judgment and inability to be patient with events. April through June 2007 looks pretty scary to me. Posted by: Nancy on March 27, 2005 03:31 AMhttp://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/27/opinion/27friedman.html?hp As I remember it, when I used to read the NYT online regularly (which I stopped doing about a year ago), Thomas Friedman, NYT columist, was pro-Bush and all for the invasion of Iraq and "the bringing of Democracy" to the Mid-East, probably for only the very best of reasons. Well, in this article, "Geo-Greening by Example," he calls Bush's presidency a wasted presidency for spending his political capital on undoing the New Deal instead of facing head-on the environmental crisis we are in. I say Bravo to him for taking this important stand. Posted by: Sharon on March 27, 2005 04:21 AMJonathan: A clear example of Tom Delay's ethics, morals and grandstanding. If he were a Democrat this would be alllllll over the "news"! Nay...it was two! Two! Two clear examples in one! Not only only did he and his family err on the side of a private death with quiet dignity [before erring on the side of a public free-for-all death for Terri Schiavo (any possible "dignity" being in spite of so very many good Christian indignities)], but they made out like bandits suing a corporation [using those awful, awful attorneys he hates so much] -- after which he helped pass laws making sure no one else could follow in his footsteps [all the way to the bank]! THANK YOU, SALLY! for giving us Hope during the dark days of winter that the Ides of March would shed some Light on * et cie. May this be the brightest Spring [and most blistering hot Summer] of their lives! vcz Posted by: vcz on March 27, 2005 11:00 AMEating disorders, particularly those serious enough to require hospitalization, are almost always accompanied by sad histories of family incest. I've often suspected bushaholic as an incested/incester... with his & his daddy's focusing on Jenna, who looks, by the way, remarkably like her g'mother, babs, in her younger days. In the 70s, feminists, social workers et al began to push for legislation dealing with recognition/investigation into closed partriarchal/dominator family systems, particularly those that included drug/alcohol abuse, for such behaviors/patterns as marital rape & incest... they weren't really considered crimes yet (a man's home is his castle donchaknow)... as Pluto went into Scorpio. I can easily imagine that those perpetuating these kinds of patterns would like to have all such investigations shut back down & hidden in the dark as well. Posted by: JoannaOregon on March 27, 2005 01:30 PMI have a neighbor who spouts Faux news with great authority, as if it were ir·ref·u·ta·ble fact. I asked her, finally, if she thought her children and granchildren deserved to grow up in the democracy she had been privlaliged to grow up in. Did she take it for granted to such an extent that all this disfuntional trauma drama was just too much fun to let go of, that even her children came second to the fun she was having? If we do not stop this, we become the fodder they think we are. Posted by: Pat C on March 27, 2005 02:38 PMDevice lets you out-Fox your TV It's not that Sam Kimery objects to the views expressed on Fox News Channel. The creator of the "Fox Blocker" contends the network is not news at all. Kimery says he has sold about 100 of the little silver bits of metal that screw into the back of most televisions, allowing people to filter Fox News from their sets. The Tulsa, Okla., resident also has received thousands of e-mails, both angry and complimentary, as well as a few death threats since the device debuted in August. "Apparently the making of terroristic threats against those who don't share your views is a high art form among a certain core audience," said Kimery, 45. Formerly a registered Republican, even a precinct captain, Kimery became an independent in the 1990s when he said the state party stopped taking input from everyday members. Kimery now contends Fox News' top-level management dictates a conservative journalistic bias, that inaccuracies never are retracted, and what airs is more opinion than news. "I might as well be reading tabloids out of the grocery store," he said. "Anything to get a rise out of the viewer and to reinforce certain retrograde notions." A Fox spokeswoman at the station's New York headquarters said the channel's ratings speak for themselves. For the first three months of this year, Fox has averaged 1.62 million viewers in prime-time, compared with CNN's 805,000, according to Nielsen Media Research. Kimery's motives go deeper than preventing people from watching the channel, which he acknowledges can be done without the Blocker. But he likens his device to burning a draft card, a tangible example of disagreement. More... http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/032705Z.shtml New Details on F.B.I. Aid for Saudis after 9/11 Washington - The episode has been retold so many times in the last three and a half years that it has become the stuff of political legend: in the frenzied days after Sept. 11, 2001, when some flights were still grounded, dozens of well-connected Saudis, including relatives of Osama bin Laden, managed to leave the United States on specially chartered flights. Now, newly released government records show previously undisclosed flights from Las Vegas and elsewhere and point to a more active role by the Federal Bureau of Investigation in aiding some of the Saudis in their departure. The F.B.I. gave personal airport escorts to two prominent Saudi families who fled the United States, and several other Saudis were allowed to leave the country without first being interviewed, the documents show. The Saudi families, in Los Angeles and Orlando, requested the F.B.I. escorts because they said they were concerned for their safety in the wake of the attacks, and the F.B.I. - which was then beginning the biggest criminal investigation in its history - arranged to have agents escort them to their local airports, the documents show. But F.B.I. officials reacted angrily, both internally and publicly, to the suggestion that any Saudis had received preferential treatment in leaving the country. "I say baloney to any inference we red-carpeted any of this entourage," an F.B.I. official said in a 2003 internal note. Another F.B.I. official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said this week regarding the airport escorts that "we'd do that for anybody if they felt they were threatened - we wouldn't characterize that as special treatment." The documents were obtained through a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit against the Justice Department by Judicial Watch, a conservative legal group, which provided copies to The New York Times. The material sheds new light on the aftermath of the Sept. 11 attacks, and it provides details about the F.B.I.'s interaction with at least 160 Saudis who were living in or visiting the United States and were allowed to leave the country. Some of the departing Saudis were related to Osama bin Laden. The Saudis' chartered flights, arranged in the days after the attacks when many flights in the United States were still grounded, have proved frequent fodder for critics of the Bush administration who accuse it of coddling the Saudis. The debate was heightened by the filmmaker Michael Moore, who scrutinized the issue in "Fahrenheit 9/11," but White House officials have adamantly denied any special treatment for the Saudis, calling such charges irresponsible and politically motivated. More.... Posted by: Pat C on March 27, 2005 04:02 PMhttp://www.mountainastrologer.com/planettracks/lunation.html snip... Three planets change direction within a week of this Full Moon, forcing us to keep checking our spiritual compass and tracking our instincts. Mercury begins his first retrograde phase of 2005 on March 19. This extends his time in Aries from the usual month to 68 days, giving us extra time to delve into new ideas and information. When the Messenger is retrograde, he urges us to double-check our facts and figures and make sure that where we are heading is where we really want to go.
THE TERRI SCHIAVO CASE
CANYON LAKE, Texas — A family tragedy that unfolded in a Texas hospital during the fall of 1988 was a private ordeal — without judges, emergency sessions of Congress or the debate raging outside Terri Schiavo's Florida hospice. The patient then was a 65-year-old drilling contractor, badly injured in a freak accident at his home. Among the family members keeping vigil at Brooke Army Medical Center was a grieving junior congressman — Rep. Tom DeLay (R-Texas). More than 16 years ago, far from the political passions that have defined the Schiavo controversy, the DeLay family endured its own wrenching end-of-life crisis. The man in a coma, kept alive by intravenous lines and oxygen equipment, was DeLay's father, Charles Ray DeLay. Then, freshly reelected to a third term in the House, the 41-year-old DeLay waited, all but helpless, for the verdict of doctors. Today, as House Majority Leader, DeLay has teamed with his Senate counterpart, Bill Frist (R-Tenn.), to champion political intervention in the Schiavo case. They pushed emergency legislation through Congress to shift the legal case from Florida state courts to the federal judiciary. And DeLay is among the strongest advocates of keeping the woman, who doctors say has been in a persistent vegetative state for 15 years, connected to her feeding tube. DeLay has denounced Schiavo's husband, as well as judges, for committing what he calls "an act of barbarism" in removing the tube. More... Posted by: Pat C on March 27, 2005 04:45 PM
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/03/27/MNGMTBUDAN1.DTL&type=printable Posted by: wv on March 27, 2005 05:23 PMEnergy body wants brakes on fuel consumption by Adam Porter (BBC)in Perpignan, France Thursday 24 March 2005 1:51 PM GMT http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/655B03B0-32C2-4BF7-A3E8-F7EFD8144333.htm The International Energy Agency is to propose drastic cutbacks in car use to halt continuing oil-supply problems. Those cutbacks include anything from car-pooling to outright police-enforced driving bans for citizens. Fuel "emergency supply disruptions and price shocks" - in other words, shortages - could be met by governments. Not only can governments save fuel by implementing some of the measures suggested, but in doing so they can also shortcut market economics. An advance briefing of the report, titled Saving Oil in a Hurry: Measures for Rapid Demand Restraint in Transport, states this succinctly. More..... .................... http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/032705Y.shtml Collision Course Europe is in the process of trying to pass a new constitution, and it is going to be a delicate business. Le Figaro reported that, for the first time, more than half of French surveyed were against the new constitution, and the opposition asked Chirac to put his own political weight behind its passage. Why should this be of interest to the US, and even more so to the opposition to Bush? Because Europe and the Bush are on a collision course, over a deep issue: what kind of world we will live in. It is a global game of chicken over wages and prices. What is this division? George Bush and Alan Greenspan are pushing a world where materials prices are higher, wages are lower, and the profits of large corporations are higher. They are doing this by running very high budget deficits, having very low interest rates, and using China as a vast engine of deflation to keep wages, and thus consumer inflation in line. This leads to what Professor David Hackett Fischer called a "money drought" in his book The Great Wave. We can see the results: oil has gone from a rock bottom $11 a barrel, to hovering over $55 dollars a barrel. Real wages in the US have barely moved, and yet Wall Street banks are showing record profits. Bush wants everywhere to look just like here: high profits, low wages, and a rush for mining and drilling. More.... .................................. Geo-Greening by Example
"Ah, Friedman, but you overstate the case." No, I understate it. Look at the opportunities our country is missing - and the risks we are assuming - by having a president and vice president who refuse to lift a finger to put together a "geo-green" strategy that would marry geopolitics, energy policy and environmentalism. By doing nothing to lower U.S. oil consumption, we are financing both sides in the war on terrorism and strengthening the worst governments in the world. That is, we are financing the U.S. military with our tax dollars and we are financing the jihadists - and the Saudi, Sudanese and Iranian mosques and charities that support them - through our gasoline purchases. The oil boom is also entrenching the autocrats in Russia and Venezuela, which is becoming Castro's Cuba with oil. By doing nothing to reduce U.S. oil consumption we are also setting up a global competition with China for energy resources, including right on our doorstep in Canada and Venezuela. Don't kid yourself: China's foreign policy today is very simple - holding on to Taiwan and looking for oil. Finally, by doing nothing to reduce U.S. oil consumption we are only hastening the climate change crisis, and the Bush officials who scoff at the science around this should hang their heads in shame. And it is only going to get worse the longer we do nothing. Wired magazine did an excellent piece in its April issue about hybrid cars, which get 40 to 50 miles to the gallon with very low emissions. One paragraph jumped out at me: "Right now, there are about 800 million cars in active use. By 2050, as cars become ubiquitous in China and India, it'll be 3.25 billion. That increase represents ... an almost unimaginable threat to our environment. Quadruple the cars means quadruple the carbon dioxide emissions - unless cleaner, less gas-hungry vehicles become the norm." More.... Posted by: Pat C on March 27, 2005 06:38 PMFRIDAY, MARCH 25, 2005 THE HOWLER GETS RESULTS: Deftly linking to somebody else, Josh Marshall takes up our great challenge! But then, so does Media Matters. Isn't it great to see Saint McCain get skunked for his blatant, repeated misstatements? High praise to the St. Peterburg Times for skunking the sanctified Senator Self-Praise in the editorial to which Josh has linked. VCZ....boy, I have agreed with every stand you've posted....and when I was reading the one about the Schindler's stance on 'should she develop gangrene we'd amutate each limb' and I thought about a pivotal book I am sure most of us here read in high school lit ...Dalton Trumbo's "Johnny Got His Gun"....82% of the country telling the pollsters to get the government outta their lives and pull the tube must have read Jonny Got His Gun....because that was a horrifying book! Poor Terri....not only would she, if she had been kidnapped from the hospice as was reported the CRETINS (thanks Jonathan) wanted to do, be a version of Weekend at Bernie's, but she has a family willing to make her into the female version of Johnny ....no wonder she had an eating disorder. Speaking of which, Karen Carpenter died in 1982 of the same thing...only then they didn't know what to call it and it took a long time to find out what was wrong, and by then, too late. She was the first big name to designate a disease which turned out to be rampant in this country....like the animal abuse VCZ was talking about earlier....no wonder we are #1 country for mental illness. SICK describes this... Posted by: judi gemini on March 28, 2005 01:27 AMDoesn't anyone think it is suspicious that we had nasty financial problems of giant proportions under Emperor G the 1st and now under the shrub? Kind of similar? Largest transfer of wealth from the lower to upper classes EVER under G I? Now under G II, even more? T'hese bad boys (it is called "B**-onomics) and their minions are quite expert at setting up world financial crisis. It is what they do....and it was started by the Grandfather of Emperor G I....the better to sell arms to desperate people.....and build up the war industries (Please go rent "Canadian Bacon" again) and then this refrain plays in my head: "Pleased to meet you, hope you guessed my name.....but what's troubling you is the nature of my game" Forgot to give you an interesting article on how the dirt under the bush got that way in 1930's Has anyone taken a look at Jeb's chart? Posted by: Teresa on March 28, 2005 02:18 AMI read somewhere that Bush has the highest likehood of being assasinated next month or August. Does anyone think that some of the wackjob right wingers who may feel betrayed on this issue may pose a physical threat to Smirk since neither has stepped in and kidnapped Terri? I heard Pat Bucannan on the other night urging the executive branch of either FL or the US to step in. What does anyone else think? Posted by: Roderick on March 28, 2005 02:22 AMI like to do something special on Christmas and Easter to celebrate in my own way. When I lived in NYC, I once went to a magic and witchcraft festival at Madison Square Garden on Christmas. Today, I chose to see “Downfall,” Oliver Hirschbiegel’s MASTERPIECE about the last 10 days of Hitler’s Reign. It is an amazing movie, I urge anyone who reads this to see it (review: http://cinemaartstheatre.com/film.php?showid=306 As I was leaving the theater I made the mistake of turning on NPR. I heard perhaps the most offensive comment I’ve heard in years. Some yahoo was talking about the meaning of Easter. I was entering traffic so I couldn’t turn it off in time. Here is what I heard: he said that the crucifixion represented the sequel to the story of Abraham and Isaac. While Abraham was unable to sacrifice his son, God did to redeem mankind. This just blew my mind. I’ve always been offended by the story of Abraham and Isaac since it’s basically a psychotic episode and a betrayal of humanity for superstition. Now this clown says that god waited patiently until his son returned to make the point. How sick can you get? No wonder I was instantly attracted to the Gnostic gospels and the fact that they, for the most part, avoid a crucifixion. What a sad commentary that the world’s largest religion is based on a doctrine of child murder. In “Downfall,” there was a great scene where someone asks Himmler how he and Hitler could put the German citizens through Hell by not surrendering and destroying as many public works (water plants, etc.) as possible. Himmler said, “You gave us our mandate and now you’re complaining when your little throats are slit.” (Approximate) What a powerful line. Sound familiar.
Himmler said, “You gave us our mandate and now you’re complaining when your little throats are slit.” Eerily familiar! How long , do you think, before the dough faces realize their is blood dripping down their chests? Posted by: M. on March 28, 2005 03:29 AMOh my God Roderick, that is just what I was saying to a friend of mine at dinner tonight!!!! We all agreed that violence will come out of the Shiavo case. Especially with Saturn moving and conjuncting Bush's natal Pluto, something is going to happen big time. My prediction are 1 of 3-either assissination, heart attack, or scandal. I do think that scandal will be there anyway. Pluto is a hugher vibration of Mars. Mars explodes while Pluto implodes. The difference is that the revoloutionary violence will be felt by Bush. And, this will be physical since Pluto is in the 1st house and close to his ascendent. I do not believe that Bush will finish this term. Posted by: Travieso on March 28, 2005 06:18 AMhttp://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/3/28/82111/6781 J.D. Guckert/Jeff Gannon: These Are Your Lives! Wow! Posted by: Pat C on March 28, 2005 02:46 PMWe are such stuff —Shakespeare, The Tempest Is it not poignant that some of us have for some time been dealing with removing 'filters' --- endeavoring to 'transcend' the 'Self'... grasp the real... and now via the internet and cable TV we have a play in progress... dealing with the greatest filter of all, the brain, and whether or not a particular entity is 'brain-dead'? The media applying filter upon filter for those who already have more than enough... and a question of what is 'life' and when does it end in the form of an entity in hospice... Quantum physics and all major relio-psychological systems of the East maintaining that there is no 'Self' --- it is created by the brain, which is a filter... that consciousness does not arise from the brain --- but to the contrary ALL is consciousness, that's all there is --- there is no other world, we are all intertwined, part of the whole, the universe... the One... As Bertrand Russell wrote: The best way to overcome [the fear of death]—so it seems to me—is to make your interests gradually wider and more impersonal, until bit by bit the walls of the ego recede, and your life becomes increasingly merged in the universal life. An individual human existence should be like a river—small at first, narrowly contained within its banks, and rushing passionately past boulders and over waterfalls. Gradually the river grows wider, the banks recede, the water flows more quietly, and in the end, without any visible break, they become merged in the sea, and painlessly lose their individual being. The man who, in old age, can see his life in this way, will not suffer from the fear of death, since the things he cares for will continue. And if, with the decay of vitality, weariness increases, the thought of rest will not be unwelcome. Well here is a filter (Ahnold) which need removing! He IS the Terminator.....the same as the national level "terminators" are working.... I am a public employee in California. For 16 years I worked at UCLA, and for nearly 17 years I have worked for LA Superior Court. Not only is Arnold trying to change the State pension system, his proposals include every pension system covering public employees, from the State to cities and counties, to school districts, to water districts, etc. We are all under attack. Information from my Union shows that LACERA, Los Angeles County Employees Retirement Association, gets 75% of its funding from dividends, about 12% from the County, and the rest from employees. My University of California pension is coordinated with Social Security. So basically, both my pensions and Social Security are being held hostage by the Republican party. This is a horror story for my family. What we thought would be a good retirement for us may collapse as Arnold wants the end of all funding for public employee pensions by 2006. I have money invested for retirement, that is my deferred compensation which could tank any time. I really am glad to see you put this on your blog for the rest of the country to see. And if Arnold wins in California, no state will be safe from the Republican plan to repeal the 20th century and promises made to employees. I would love to move out of the country now. Thank you for publicizing this. S Posted by: judi gemini on March 28, 2005 03:38 PMCNN is just now reporting another big earthquake in Indonesia along the same fault line that spawned the tsunami in December. Didn't someone mention a big quake upthread? Posted by: Teresa on March 28, 2005 04:59 PMPlease forgive me for not knowing exactly where I read this (I'm sure it was somewhere on AW very recently), but I've just heard there was a huge 8.2 earthquake reported in Indonesia. Wasn't there something astrologically that pointed to possible earthquakes and such? Just making sure I'm remembering correctly and not going senile. :-) Posted by: Jonathan on March 28, 2005 05:01 PMTeresa, I guess one can safely say (looking at our double-posting re: the earthquake) that great minds think alike? LOL Posted by: Jonathan on March 28, 2005 05:03 PMI have a question..... What is shown in a person's chart to be "the weakest link" (spiritual, emotional, mental, physical)....and what is shrub-brain's weakest link, and when does that link spap? Does 2005 indicate a snap, or 2006? Or both? I fear that 'assassination' would bring worse problems than we already have, and, unfortunately, deify him....I would hope it never happens to another president no matter what the curse says. But it was predicted that he would have heart problems, etc....but what of a mental breakdown from stress? Does anyone see that? Or did that already happen? Posted by: judi gemini on March 28, 2005 05:28 PMHuge earthquake just hit west of Sumatra Island.....8.2....tsunami expected....http://news.search.yahoo.com/search/news?fr=news-storylinks&p=%22USGS%22&c=&n=20&yn=c&c=news&cs=nw Posted by: judi gemini on March 28, 2005 05:31 PM
Mon Mar 28, 7:34 AM ET Jonathan, LOL, but I was first, so there :) Seriously, I remember someone discussing it because of the similarities in transits. I'd say they called it right on the nose. Posted by: Teresa on March 28, 2005 06:06 PMSally and I both discussed it previously online. Pluto went retrograde yesterday at 24 Sag conjunct the Galactic center, bringing with it, on the Full Moon and a Mars conj Pluto and I think the key here is Pluto moving on the Galactic Center and its effect on the earth. Nancy: Another fine article indeed, as I agree with the rest of the group here with thier comments.
And the deception by the Bush Administration with the planet Neptune is also working nicely. From March 19th, 2005 - early February 2006, and again during the Summer of 2006, the downfall of President Bush is already at hand.
PS something to remember here is that on the last quake in that area, the magnetic North Pole moved - Posted by: Pallas18 on March 28, 2005 06:12 PMKudos to both Pallas18 and Sally for their accuracy. I hope though that there is no loss of life. Posted by: Teresa on March 28, 2005 07:03 PM2nd Earthquake 6.0 in Nias region of Indonesia...looks like another pattern of large quakes happening close together... Posted by: judi gemini on March 28, 2005 07:54 PMVery apt from you know who http://www.mark fiore.com/animation/angels.html Posted by: Raj on March 28, 2005 08:31 PMabove without the gap should be as below: http://www.markfiore.com/animation/angels.html Posted by: Raj on March 28, 2005 08:33 PMReposting the Fiore web site: Raj....I tried to repost that website for Mark Fiore and I walked away from the computer, and when I came back, saw that my post had been rejected...so I reposted, and your reposting had preceeded mine.....! PS...it was pretty good! Posted by: judi gemini on March 28, 2005 08:56 PMjudi gemini, that's an exact thought for both of us, is that Raj, Since Fiore is sooooo good, staying with his one more which is excellent too below http://www.markfiore.com/animation/social.html Posted by: Raj on March 28, 2005 09:22 PMhttp://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/032805Y.shtml Shelter from the Storm "I was burned out from exhaustion, buried in the hail, Poisoned in the bushes and blown out on the trail, Hunted like a crocodile, ravaged in the corn. "Come in," she said, "I'll give you shelter from the storm." I attempted at the outset of the month to encapsulate the entire history of the Bush administration in one sentence. The frightening part isn't how long the sentence turned out to be, or how damnably infuriating the content of the sentence turned out to be. The frightening part is the simple fact that the sentence is incomplete. The online satire magazine 'The Onion' ran an article a few weeks ago titled “Liberals Suffer Outrage Overload." As with many Onion headlines, there was more truth than fiction in the words. It's the hypocrisy, stupid. It goes on and on and on, and it is exhausting in the extreme to consider, much less address and attack. Lately, the hypocrisy needle has been pegged over into the red. Leave it to the Republican majority to take an important issue, an issue filled with questions about medical ethics, the rights of the disabled people, the rights of spouses, the place of federalism in a national debate and the simple value of human life, and transmogrify it into a ghoulish circus sideshow best used to score political points and do a little fundraising on the side. More... Posted by: Pat C on March 28, 2005 09:35 PMhttp://www.suburbanguerrilla.blogspot.com/ NEW YORK - Jeff Gannon is back. At the National Press Club? Yes, the same day that the prestigious Washington, D.C., journalism organization plans to present a lunch talk by former Washington Post executive editor Ben Bradlee, it will also allow the former White House reporter/sex site operator to be on a panel discussing bloggers and online journalism. Gannon, whose real name is James Guckert, resigned his job with the conservative Talon News last month after it was revealed he had used a pseudonym, had little journalism background, and had ties to male escort Web sites. Still, Press Club leaders will include Gannon on the panel April 8 that includes Wonkette.com editor Ana Marie Cox, National Journal's John Stanton, and others. Gannon told E&P today that he always considered himself a legitimate journalist, and "perhaps their invitation is recognition of that." Wasn't April 8th suppose to be a special day for the * clan? This doesn't make any sense to me. But then again, not much does these days. Posted by: abilene on March 28, 2005 10:20 PM"Welcome to the Revolution" ~snip The bloggers aren't quite overrunning the newsroom, but they are engaging established media in keyboard-to-keyboard combat that's benefiting public discourse and making journalism 'franchises' more accountable. Orville Schell, Dean of the UC Berkeley's graduate school of jornalism, calls it the fracturing of the "Roman Empire that was the mass media" into a near-feudal period where centers of power and influence are more diffuse. The sovereignty of Big Journalism is eroding. Posted by: jm on March 28, 2005 10:26 PMI just want to add that so often we see results in retrospect, and we should try to be patient when enduring transits. Looks like The Death of Journalism as we knew it occurred when Pluto opposed our USA Mars in Gemini. Posted by: jm on March 28, 2005 10:46 PMJudi, I do hope the people of California can squash the "terminator". Isn't it interesting the rethugs have nicknames like "terminator", and "exterminator", etc.?? Posted by: Pat C on March 28, 2005 11:18 PMhttp://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/032805A.shtml The Savage Carnival Let's call them what they are: Ghoulish Obscene Panderers. How else to describe Tom Delay and Bill Frist, et al., as they crawl into bed with a brain-dead woman to pose for a political Polaroid? If Bill Frist is the paragon of compassionate-conservative medicine in this country, it is no wonder the GOP wants to do away with trial lawyers and medical malpractice awards. I mean, if Dr. Frist can diagnose via video, surely we can all be diagnosed and healed by touching the magic screens of our televisions, powered by the celebrated and all knowing all-powerful Dr. Oz and his media-evangelists, cured through Our Lady of the Sacred Cable Cathedral and the Holy Order of St. Arbitron, all included in our monthly satellite and cable subscription fees. Better than national healthcare. God is good. And while the circus of life unfolds before us, notice how no one acknowledges the rampage of giant pink elephants. The media, like a good Ring Master, barks and waves, diverting our attention to the death-defying trapeze artists, the bearded lady, the two-headed boy, and the miniature fire engine loaded with seltzer-spraying pundits fresh from clown college. Modern journalism under the Big Top. No one wants you to see what just happened. They hide the fact that Congress passed legislation that 80 percent of America thinks is wrong and invasive, that Congress passed this act with only a minimum of congressional and senate membership present, which should scare the living bejeebers out of all of us. What about separation of powers? GOP is the power. What about the rule of law? Only the GOP makes the law. Constitution? Just another dead document. What about activist courts and judges? The GOP will tell you when activism is good and when the evil liberals do bad activism, and never mind the difference! Wake up America! The Republic is dead. Welcome to the United States of Jesus, sponsored by the GOP Gospel Hour Medicine Show. It's all a cheap savage carnival on the midway of mendacity. If you want to know these people's moral values, look no further than their pocketbook. And remember, George Bush says their money is our money. Our values are their values. For every $1 we spend on education in this country, we spend $6 on the defense industry. Are we really six times more dedicated to killing than educating? More.... Posted by: Pat C on March 28, 2005 11:22 PMIt's part Fellini, part grade B horror, part Greek tragedy, and part screwball comedy. Posted by: jm on March 28, 2005 11:42 PMThe problem for me is there is nothing but fake butter to put on the popcorn. Posted by: jm on March 28, 2005 11:44 PMIt's a banana republic jm. It's what the Bushes do so well. Posted by: Pat C on March 28, 2005 11:44 PMBush gets a D on Human Rights from China, a "frank indictment and draws a picture of America that approaches caricature." Should reinforce the negative image Bush already created by his own actions. Great. 3/29
and Two preliminary remarks ... ... in order to avoid any confusion, we are sticking to our mission as expressed by George W. Bush on 11 September 2001: “We will hunt down and punish all those responsible for these cowardly acts.” Whoever thinks this has already been accomplished or believes the circumstances have been fully investigated is wrong. We would ask all those whose response to our claim: “It's no crime to ask, is it?” is a dismissive and unequivocal: “Yes it is! It is disrespectful towards the victims,” to please consider the questions raised by the relatives of these very same victims (here or here). So what's this all about? It's about YOUR common sense. Put it to the test by answering the following questions about 11 September 2001. All the information cited here is drawn from official or at least “verifiable” sources - not, in other words, from “conspiracy theory websites”. You can check these sources yourself through the hyperlinks mentioned on each page.
Pat C., I could use some advice until I learn to deal wtih Neptune transiting my moon/pluto and opposing my mercury at 17 Leo and 16 Aquarius, respectively. I've noticed that I'm more sucesptible emotionally (not all bad) and getting kind of haywire (got out of my husband's car twice at about 10 mph), and expressing even more emotion than this Pisces/Leo/Cancer usually does. Mentally, I'm forgetting things and feeling somewhat overwhelmed by any disorganization. My brain/speech pattern seems off, and I'm not expressing myself clearly (except when I'm expressing my emotions to my husband), or maybe it's that I feel I'm not being understood clearly, and...because I'm feeling so emotional...one cup of coffee is getting me pretty nervous. Can someone who remembers having similar transits comment on what they did to deal with it? I'm thinking I probably need daily yoga and meditation and cutting down to 1/4 - 1/2 cup of coffee :-) Thanks :-) Sharon, Neptune interferes with linear progression, so your mind bounces all over the place in a seemingly chaotic pattern. Others can't follow it. Neptune wants you to surrender and not try too hard. Feelings from the animated Moon can't be translated into Mercury words in the usual way. It is a time to wander through the world of imagination, and often inspired messages are trying to get through. Sometimes communication with others blocks the reception. Although, sometimes they really get it. Rerouting often is a good idea, and watching out for the obssessive tendencies of the Moon/Pluto. Sometimes music and poetry fit in and make sense. And comedy. I think Neptune confuses us and fogs our vision in order for us to see in a new way. To develop diffrent neural pathways in the visual part of the cortex. It's best to follow it.
Excuse the spelling.. I have a Mercury/Neptune Square and I am always mixed up. Posted by: jm on March 29, 2005 12:33 AMPallas, I remember that afternoon recently when you posted one comment after another on earthquakes. You must have been getting the message then. It seems like when these misguided people start playing God, the earth kicks in. Jo, I was 100% on the first few questions, but I had to quit to do some other things. I don't know if it is a book as much as it is just important to remember what is not being talked about. jm, I really have to thank you for the information you posted about Neptune. I can relate.
There Was No Checkpoint, There Was No Self-Defense Giuliana Sgrena would probably be the first to say that to focus on her case would be to miss the point on the extent of the daily, horrific violence Iraqis face at the hands of US soldiers. Sgrena is the Italian war correspondent that was shot by US forces as she was en route to the Baghdad airport after being freed from a month of being held hostage by an Iraqi resistance group. She knows better than most that if she and the senior Italian intelligence official killed by US troops as he tried to save her were merely Iraqi civilians, this would be even more of a non-story than it already is in the US press. With Terri Schiavo and Michael Jackson to cover, it is pretty difficult for most media outlets to find the time to report on any of the more than 100,000 Iraqi civilians killed since the beginning of the invasion 2 years ago. Thatąs why cases like Sgrenaąs become so important‹because they represent a chance to show the world that part of the reality Iraqis face every day of their lives: They are kidnapped in alarming numbers; they are shot by trigger-happy US soldiers; their deaths are justified--if they are even acknowledged--by US officials floating flimsy cover stories that would never stand up in any US court (except perhaps a military court). New details are emerging about Sgrena's shooting and the death of the Italian official, Nicola Calipari, that bear reporting in English (this, of course, remains a significant story in Italy). Independent journalist Naomi Klein recently met with Sgrena in the Rome military hospital where she has been since returning to Italy on March 5. 'Giuliana is quite a bit sicker than we have been led to believe,' says Klein. 'She was fired on by a gun at the top of a tank, which means that the artillery was very, very large. It was a four-inch bullet that entered her body and broke apart. And it didn't just injure her shoulder, it punctured her lung. Her lung continues to fill with fluid and there continues to be complications stemming from that fairly serious injury.' More.... ...and there are all those other journalists. There are those voting machines, and all those Americans being fired and their jobs being sent over seas, while at the same time the immigration department has quietly gone over the 65,000 cap on forign white collare workers taking the place of Americans here at home. There are all those millions illegals welcomed here to work at slave wages, and we had better not object. Ok, we have the military shooting journalists, voting machines doing anything except counting the votes accurately, assets being exported, while Americans are being fired, and the media NOT reporting any of it. Coup? Do you think? Posted by: Pat C on March 29, 2005 01:30 AMThanks, JM. New neural pathways...imagination...letting go...not trying SO hard.... The Moon/Pluto in Leo generally get me to try too hard and all the Pisces (sun, jupiter, mars, venus, n.n.) plus Sat. in Lib make me kind of worry and also try to hard (s.n. in Virgo)...SO...thanks again. What spelling? :-) Posted by: Sharon on March 29, 2005 01:31 AMThat's funny, Sharon. Very interesting. The word I misspelled was "obsessed"...? Posted by: Jm on March 29, 2005 01:46 AMOne last thing, Sharon. Having a Pisces NN makes a Neptune transit especially valuable. A lot to gain. Gotta love Neptune sometimes. Posted by: jm on March 29, 2005 01:53 AMjm, in January I posted an article "Swing Low Sweet Sweet Chariot" and said at that time that earthquakes were a reality for at least three months and the Full Moon in March was particularly sensitive. I repeated that warning several times over the past two/three months in articles and posts. I based my prediction on the work of a Vedic Astrologer in India who had correctly predicted the Dec. 26th Earthquake withing a few minutes. I posted his article as he detailed his work, his entire astrological career has been related to earthquakes. I followed his work and checked all the past earthquakes over 7.5 and his computations bear out. I had several email conversations with astrologers regarding this scientific/astrological phenomena, sharing the information as I did on this site, and some used it in their predictions. I am posting the link for this article once again because it is quite accurate for the most devestating of earthquakes over the last few hundred years. http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/12-28c-04.asp Posted by: Sally on March 29, 2005 02:46 AMGreat article Sally. Thanks for reposting it! This is a very interestinf concept. This looks like a man in deep depression to me. Anybody? Hey Sharon, I'm a Leo/Pisces/Cancer too!! nn/sun in Leo. I always have trouble communicating with hard Merc. transits, and Neptune makes me WAYYYYY out there. (Last month I had Mars crossing my 7th house desc., so major anger issues amongst family.) Letting go vs.fighting for basic self is the story of my life, lol. the earthquake was 8.7. earthquakes are Uranus/ Mars, imho. Posted by: Peg on March 29, 2005 03:38 AMhttp://www.laweekly.com/ink/05/18/news-ireland.php At the same time, the Federal Elections Commission (FEC) is considering a crackdown on political blogging under the provisions of the McCain-Feingold campaign-finance law. According to Republican FEC member Brad Smith, including the Net under McCain-Feingold “would strike deep into the heart of the Internet and the bloggers who are writing out there today.” Commissioner Smith told CNET two weeks ago, “We’re talking about any decision by an individual to put a link [to a political candidate] on their home page, set up a blog, send out mass e-mails, any kind of activity that can be done on the Internet. Again, blogging could also get us into issues about online journals and non-online journals . . . Why should Salon or Slate get an exemption? Should Nytimes.com and Opinionjournal.com get an exemption but not online sites, just because the newspapers have a print edition as well?” Blogging a press release from a campaign, or promoting a politician’s views on issues — let alone a blogger’s recommending a financial contribution to a candidate — would all fall under the McCain-Feingold law under the proposals. Posted by: Pat C on March 29, 2005 03:57 AMGood grief Pat, he looks terrible. Those awful bags under his eyes suggest some serious kidney problems, but he looks just awful. Posted by: Sally on March 29, 2005 04:22 AMHe really does Sally. Does it get worse do you think? Posted by: Pat C on March 29, 2005 04:25 AMhttp://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,600121138,00.html Energy crisis fuels revival of uranium mining 3 yellowcake mines in Colorado have reopened in past 2 years Rocky Mountain News The rough and rocky terrain of southwest Colorado is once again luring miners with its promise of yellow wealth — not gold, but uranium. Three uranium mines, shuttered in the mid-1980s, were reopened in the past two years. The revival of another two is on the anvil this year. And many prospectors are scoping out the Colorado Plateau in hopes of striking rich ore deposits.This resurgence in uranium mining is being triggered by skyrocketing prices brought on by soaring global demand for the radioactive mineral. Sally, that article is wonderful. Could you be one of the priestesses marrying astrology and astronomy again, as it used to be? Sharon, remembering my Neptune transit square Venus and Mercury = afterward, much afterward, you go: "What was I thinking of?" My only advice could be, check everything out with a friend who is not having a substantial Neptune transit :). Posted by: Pallas18 on March 29, 2005 05:09 AMhttp://www.startribune.com/stories/1519/5317109.html In the summer of 2000, Dick Cheney was appointed to find a vice presidential candidate for George W. Bush, and, as we now know, the winner of the search turned out to be Dick Cheney. Today, Republicans are casting about for a successor to Bush. And the winner of that search just may turn out to be ... Dick Cheney. The Draft Cheney movement is burbling just below the surface. Fred Barnes suggested it earlier this month in the Weekly Standard. Tod Lindberg of the Washington Times and Lawrence Kudlow of National Review Online echoed Barnes in columns this week. Cheneymania has reached critical mass. More.... Speaking of Darth Vader, that reminds me of a lot of things tying in together. * sold F 16 s to Pakistan. Valerie Plame headed up a sting operation that was anti-nuke-proliferation, and trying to find out who had been spreading nukes around the world illegally. A faction in the Pentagon headed by Darth Vader There's now talk of * selling nukes to China. Well now. What if we substitute Darth Vader behind these sales instead of *. Now you know who exposed covert CIA agent Valerie Plame. But you knew that anyway. You just didn't know why. Posted by: Pallas18 on March 29, 2005 05:33 AMHere is a very interesting statistic I just heard: Since 2001, 20% more Catholics are against the death penalty. JudiGemini: Jonny Got His Gun vcz: OH, are we on the same page! lolol I've been thinking about Jonny, too...and praying Terri isn't anywhere near as conscious as he was. And, although I never saw the movie, the minute I read about them having her legs amputated I thought -- Boxing Helena! JG: Weekend at Bernie's vcz: OMG. I know this may sound awful, but. In "the good old days," Weekend at Terri's would've been the next SNL opener [with Gilda as Terri, Belushi as jeb, Murray as dubya, and Steve Martin as delay]. GJ: Karen Carpenter died in 1982 of the same thing...only then they didn't know what to call it and it took a long time to find out what was wrong, and by then, too late. vcz: And the mainstream still doesn't really wish any discussion regarding her relationships with her father and brother. Terri's 41, now? Early teens [when I've read her bulimia/anorexia first surfaced], late '70s? Let's get real. How long d'y'think Terri's been trying to get away from [one or both of] her parents? JG: like the animal abuse....no wonder we are #1 country for mental illness. SICK describes this... vcz: And have you heard? Plastic surgery is now "all the rage" for pets! Major story, here in butterfly-ballot country. Lipo, face-lifts, you name it. It's for pets whose owners love them every bit as much as Terri's parents love her! [Because nothin' says lovin' like the gift of unnecessary surgery under general anesthaetic...] And, finally. to KATHLEEN! I saw your post in another thread, and I don't know how you do it. Hats off and on and back off again [a few times]. It's not just the surgeries. It's the still being sane when surrounded by people who will simply never Get It. Let's you and I make a pact! I'll pull yours if you'll pull mine. lol Please consider me with you en spiritu. And may you never have reason to need my services... It was so nice, today, seeing jeb all over the nooz, talking at his shoes, mumbling, barely audibly, "I don't have the power..." and then trailing off [and turning beet red]. There's five words no one in the * family has ever said [in that particular order]! Come what may, I doubt we'll ever hear them, again. So, pardon my temporary euphoria. vcz Posted by: vcz on March 29, 2005 08:12 AMnot sure if ya'll have been following the minutemen on the border news, but it seems like it'll be an exploding story here pretty quick. I'm thinking that the "powers that be" are pulling out the stops to start the bloodshed here in America. Peg, the minuteman stuff was all over our local radio talk shows yesterday. There were hard-core repubs calling in and just blasting GWB for doing nothing to close the border to illegal immigration. Seems Mrs. Schiavo isn't the only issue the "base" disagrees with. It's been a long time since I've had a hard Neptune transit but I'm undergoing Uranus sitting on my ascendant. Haven't really noticed anything yet except I can't sleep. The bags under my eyes are worse than the ones under Bush's eyes in the pic Pat posted. Posted by: Teresa on March 29, 2005 03:04 PMsorry about the bags Teresa, Uranus on the asc. would definitely put my energy level through the roof; perhaps if you can channel it into something physical, you could drop off to sleep better? I have Neptune over my 15 Aquarius moon. I feel really spacey at times. Also, need lots of sleep but that could be a mix of Neppy and menopause. My instincts though are really sharp. What they have uncovered are the women I share work with are not talking to me in a clear way. I need to go back and make sure they are being clear because we are trying to do business together. I keep a paper trail!!! of emails back and forth so it's all in writing. My landlord is BS ing me up the wazhoo but he's doing the same to my neighbor below. So I will stop the phone calls to him and start the letter campaign to have evidence. vcz: a polite question... it comes across to me that there's an obsession over Shimshamschiavo and I am wondering if it brings up any of your own issues? Pataki To Pals: Count Me Out In Albany, Plan On D.C. Governor George Pataki is telling close associates he doesn't plan on running for re-election. NY1's Davison Goldin filed the following report Monday. Sources tell NY1 News that Governor George Pataki expects to announce in the next few weeks he's not seeking a fourth term, and is instead deciding whether to run for president. NY1's sources say Pataki realizes he's a longshot, but thinks he could be the GOP nominee for vice president in 2008. Pataki has previously said he'll decide by June whether to run again for governor, and NY1's sources caution that in the event of a terrorist attack or other major event, the governor could still decide he wants to stay in Albany. The governor was asked Monday if he can picture another term in the state Capitol. “I've always believed if you care about people and you love the state that you're leading, it is the greatest job you can have,” said Pataki. In a statement late Monday, Pataki Communications Director David Catalfamo said: "The so-called prognosticators should keep in mind that the governor has made quite a career of defying the conventional wisdom." Sources say Pataki did not want this story to break during state budget negotiations, which are in high gear right now. But even the governor’s allies have been publicly impatient about waiting for his decision, and they’re not surprised by his national ambitions. “Vice president would be more likely that he would fit into that mold, but it’s an uphill battle,” said New York State Conservative Party Chairman Michael Long. “Either one would be an uphill battle.” As Pataki surveys the national scene, sources say he's relying on guidance from former top aides Zenia Mucha, Bradford Race, Michael McKeon and Sandy Treadwell, who now serves on the Republican National Committee. NY1 has also been told that longtime political advisor Kieran Mahoney is still very much in the picture, helping Pataki create an exploratory committee for president. More... Posted by: Pat C on March 29, 2005 03:40 PMPallas, you mentioned the magnetic shift at the last earthquake, here is something interesting from Barbara Hand Clow: ...Here is what you didn't hear in the news: The Indonesian government had 50,000 troops in Aceh, who there to control the Free Aceh rebels-GAM. Another 50,000 troops had just landed to replace the ones on ground when the tsunami hit. A huge number of these two groups were wiped out, GAM requisitioned many of their munitions, and now the Indonesian government is negotiating with the people of Aceh, who are fighting for their freedom. How's that for a major shift of energy. The Spring Equinox lunar trine is going to send out another great wave, which will strongly affect human emotions, especially since Venus in Pisces is right behind the Sun, and the Moon is in the last degree of Cancer. link:http://www.handclow2012.com/astroflash.htm Posted by: Peg on March 29, 2005 04:24 PMmy last post before work: "US Has been preparing to turn Bhakti....seems like meno is making you a bit edgy, don't you think? Doesn't sound so polite to tell someone to shut up or look at their own 'issues'....who appointed YOU the group psychiatrist? Or is that impolite to say? I'm all the way thru meno, but still have Neptune on my south node....and Uranus setting off my Mars.....no way I can be polite NOW.... Posted by: judi gemini on March 29, 2005 07:23 PMSharon and the others posting about not sleeping....my daughter has been off her rocker until Sunday....when she deflated like the proverbial balloon....I am sending her your posts....for the last 3 months she has not been sleeping, is confused, making mistakes, etc....she is Leo rising 15 deg, Leo sun 17 deg (donj. my north node), with a yod at 8 deg of Cancer, Taurus and Sagit....all getting hit by the Uranian transit. Everything you guys have mentioned is what has been happening to her . Plus her husband has Aquarius rising! about mid sign degree, too.... One thing Emily and I both experienced Sunday evening and early into Monday morning...we both had a VERY RACING PULSE...rapid heartbeat. I am wondering, could this have been us picking up the vibes from the earthquake? gotta check the time differential.... Raj...mine is June 7....but you an I always seem to be in the same place at the same time! Posted by: judi gemini on March 29, 2005 07:38 PMBhakti: vcz: a polite question...it comes across to me that there's an obsession over Shimshamschiavo and I am wondering if it brings up any of your own issues? Personally, I'm sick of this but happy for the hypocrisy it uncovers. You do not talk about anything thing else and the posts too long and just eats up Sally''s broadband. DU has many threads to talk about this. You can post there to your heart's delight. No flames please. vcz: lol "Flames" are a tacit admission that one has no interest in Communication. Rest easy, bhakti... ;-) My own issues? This case brings up "issues" for most of us. Living in America, and [Palm Beach County] Florida, in particular, this case makes me despair that Thinking will never replace Hypocrisy on our collective agenda. Have posted regarding this issue and in this thread only in response to other posts, so wasn't aware that it might not be "okay" in terms of subject or bandwidth. And I tend to post about only one issue at any given time because I have to keep myself on a tight rein, workwise. Getting ready to blog residentbush after the SD shadow period ends, so will have even less time for "the fun stuff." Sincere questions are neither polite nor impolite. They're just questions, and I have no problem answering them. -- vcz Posted by: vcz on March 29, 2005 07:48 PMI don't know if you've heard but Falwell,71, is in a hospital on a ventilator in critical condition. I remember reading a couple of weeks ago about the April 8 eclipse and how it may foreshadow the end of the current Pope's reign. Does anyone have any opinions about what the eclipse will mean for Falwell? http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-03-29-falwell_x.htm
http://www.proudparenting.com/page.cfm?Sectionid=65&typeofsite=snippetdetail&ID=1204&snippetset=yes# Will this religious lunacy come to an end when Pluto moves into Capricorn in 2008 or are we stuck with it forever? LOL Posted by: Roderick on March 29, 2005 08:16 PMRoderick, Yes, the lunacy will wind down as Pluto leaves Sagittarius. Pluto is diminishing all theocratic power. gasp Hopefully we can move on to spirituality. Posted by: Pat C on March 29, 2005 08:24 PMI heard that gasp loud and clear, Pat C. Posted by: jm on March 29, 2005 08:47 PMOh jm, it is all so excruciating. Posted by: Pat C on March 29, 2005 09:02 PMMany thanks vcz. I appreciated your answer. However we will agree to disagree in this instance. There is a TS thread and perhaps it's more appropriate to continue to post on there for whomever is interested. Judi: I do not recall addressing the question to you. Why answer for another? That's called triangulating. Where did I say 'shut up' ? Just made a suggestion to blog with other bloggers who are into it. It was brought up earlier to shut if off. At least please lower the volume. BTW Women who down other women using the 'edgy' menopausal (menstrual) card is not enlightend in my book. Too bad. Want some tobacco? Thanks for being the real you. Gotta go put on my flame retardent suit now. Posted by: bhakti on March 29, 2005 09:11 PMI am nodding in agreement, Pat C. Well.... http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/4327439/detail.html Report: Pope May Need Feeding Tube Italian News Agency Says No Decision Yet The APcom news agency, citing an unidentified source, said the 84-year-old pope might have to have the tube inserted to improve his nutrition, since he is having difficulty swallowing with the breathing tube that was inserted Feb. 24. Earlier Tuesday, the Italian daily Corriere della Sera reported that the pope's doctors were considering a new hospitalization next week, both to perform tests on the breathing tube and to adjust his diet because of problems swallowing. There was no comment from the Vatican. Nicola Cerbino, a spokesman at Polyclinic Gemelli hospital where John Paul was rushed twice last month, called it media speculation. Another newspaper, La Repubblica, quoted the pope's Vatican physician, Dr. Renato Buzzonetti, as saying doctors are "reasonably calm" about the frail pope's condition. More... Posted by: Pat C on March 29, 2005 09:41 PMThe list of donators to the Schlindler family has now been sold to right wing relligious groups. $$$ and http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6210240/ Schiavo: case closed (Keith Olbermann) It is possible that Michael Schiavo is a battering spouse or a murderer, just as it is possible that you are a battering spouse or a murderer. But the odds against him (or you) being a battering spouse or murderer, and a complete idiot, are very, very high. And that is exactly what the husband of the unfortunate, and unfortunately publicized, Terri Schiavo, would have to be, to have done what he did yesterday, unless his innocence was all but certain and the mainstream medical evidence on his wife’s condition all but incontrovertibly verified. Through his attorney, Mr. Schiavo announced that after his wife’s life ends, he will delay the planned cremation of her body, and ask the Chief Medical Examiner of Pinellas County, Florida, to conduct a full autopsy on the cause of her now impending death. If he, as some blood relatives of his wife now suggest after a decade of suggesting otherwise, somehow abused her, or he led to the heart stoppage that put her in her present state, it is not likely to be missed by the autopsy. If he, as his in-laws and all of his critics now suggest after nearly a decade of suggesting otherwise, had an ulterior motive in seeking to end her treatment, it is not likely to be missed by the autopsy. And if the part of her brain that makes her her was not irreparably damaged (in fact, turned to liquid)— as examination after examination and court after court has found— it is certain not to be missed by the autopsy. In short, Mr. Schiavo has just given his critics three opportunities to prosecute him by authorizing, in fact requesting, the autopsy. More... Posted by: Pat C on March 29, 2005 09:51 PMbhakti: Many thanks vcz. I appreciated your answer. However we will agree to disagree in this instance. There is a TS thread and perhaps it's more appropriate to continue to post on there for whomever is interested. vcz: About what are we agreeing to disagree? And, again, my posts have been, in essence, responses. Were I to jump in with a post lacking any relevance to either astrology or previous subjects discussed, herein, an "appropriateness factor" might apply. This is SO not a "flame" [but rather an observation] -- you might look within to discover which "issue" has you feeling that others should post as you wish. [Were you my sibling, I'd pull out the standard: Who made you the Jello Sheriff of the house? lolol] I was "over" Terri Schiavo about ten appeals ago. But it wouldn't occur to me to tell others what they may and may not discuss [nor where they may or may not discuss]. My focus has been [and e'er will be] to get others Thinking about the things they "discuss." Most of us tend to say and then defend whatever rolls off our tongues. Actual "Thought" rarely enters the equation. Having absolutely no "knowledge of the facts" is seemingly no hindrance, either, when forming our rock-solid opinions. For me, this isn't about Terri. It's about [what now passes for] America. No harm, no foul! So "the 84-year-old pope might have to have the tube inserted" and Falwell is on a respirator in critical condition. "Thy will be done, not mine" has been rendered quaint... Laughing all the way, The lists that I read seem to get the most catankerous while Merc is retrograde. No exceptions here :-) Posted by: piegrrrl on March 29, 2005 10:22 PMhttp://rawstory.com/news/2005/index.php?p=226
In Unusual "Signaling" Move, Secret Service Admits White House is Suppressing Free Speech at Bush Events Financed by Taxpayers. This Would be Impeachable if Republicans Cared About Our Constitution. And It Happens Again and Again. I find it all so fascinating, astrologically speaking, that I don't even mind wiping the saliva off of my tv screen that the cable news reporters have been leaving behind. Our wonderful astrologers called it right when they said this period would be somewhat stressful (deliberate understatement here). I remember back several threads Sally said more than once that, if elected, Bush will probably not serve more than 6 months. There are several scandals brewing and I'm certain the pressure on the Bush boys is enormous. I don't wish bad things on anyone,but I have to admit that watching everything play out is mesmerizing (did I spell that right?). What I'm waiting for is the lull just before the big storm and I can feel it coming. I'm sorry if I'm rambling. My thoughts are zooming along at top speed. No more caffeine for me. Has anyone heard from shylurker lately? Posted by: Teresa on March 29, 2005 10:46 PMshylurker is ok Teresa. Just resting under the bed I guess. Posted by: Pat C on March 29, 2005 10:59 PMOh, Pat, there is no rest under the bed. Guido and Ouida May are both in meditative levitation above the lavender fields. That part is peaceful. However, I am trying to expand our guest accommodations since Teresa has indicated interest in visiting. Is French Impressionism a good decorating theme for you, Teresa? Posted by: shylurker on March 29, 2005 11:19 PMWell, this one was shown on CNN today. http://blogs.salon.com/0002874/ Ghouls Remember when I said that I was cynical enough to believe if you signed a petition or donated money at RightMarch to "save Terri," you would be added to Phil Sheldon's mailing list, which he rents out to other groups and to politicians?
The parents of Terri Schiavo have authorized a conservative direct-mailing firm to sell a list of their financial supporters, making it likely that thousands of strangers moved by her plight will receive a steady stream of solicitations from anti-abortion and conservative groups. "These compassionate pro-lifers donated toward Bob Schindler's legal battle to keep Terri's estranged husband from removing the feeding tube from Terri," says a description of the list on the Web site of the firm, Response Unlimited, which is asking $150 a month for 6,000 names and $500 a month for 4,000 e-mail addresses of people who responded last month to an e-mail plea from Ms. Schiavo's father. "These individuals are passionate about the way they value human life, adamantly oppose euthanasia and are pro-life in every sense of the word!" Privacy experts said the sale of the list was legal and even predictable, if ghoulish. [...]
More... Posted by: Pat C on March 29, 2005 11:33 PMPat C: Thanks so much for posting part of the Friedman piece on Geo Greening. I assume there is more to the piece, since you wrote...”More.” I have problems with the Times site, though. When I got on most recently, my computer froze up. Initially I registered just to read Friedman’s pieces, then the Times would have no record of my registering and I was unable to make it through the process again...and on.
I’ll add here part of a thing I found on Dennis Weaver’s site the other day. I sent it in a letter to my Senators and Representative along with comments regarding the Artic Reserve. From the desk of Dennis Weaver.... January 2005 It only seems an act of sanity to spend a good portion of that money to develop energy sources that are clean, renewable and inexhaustible and that can support our economy indefinitely. more... All for now. OG Posted by: old granny on March 30, 2005 12:22 AMold granny, if you would like me to send it to you, I'd be more than happy to do that. Posted by: Pat C on March 30, 2005 12:31 AMVCZ...not only that, Johnnie Cochran has passed away.....some big egos disappearing... Pie Girl....cantankerous really happens to Geminis, big time....heheheheheh Posted by: judi gemini on March 30, 2005 01:27 AMBhakti .... your know it all atitude is way beyond anything I said....you ARE edgy....just an observation. It happens. Just that your response appears way out of line. Don't give me any of that observation about "women who".....Menopause is something I've already experienced, thank you very much. Try increasing your soy intake and take it easy. Posted by: judi gemini on March 30, 2005 01:39 AMRe the comments and link upthread that the "House in Michigan passed a bill which would allow doctors to refuse to care for patients if it goes against their religion, morals or ethics. Fortunately, this doesn't apply to emergency situations" Wasn't there a little ol' sumpin called the Hippocratic Oath? Both the 'Classic' and modern versions can be found on line... Doctors for over two thousand years have been taking the oath, which apparently was changed more than once to removed the gods and goddesses referred to... this link indicates "Upon graduation, many medical students take a modern version of the oath written by Louis Lasagna in 1964." You can go here and read the rather lengthy oath. My point is, physicians CANNOT refuse to treat people because they are Gay or Black or Crooks or murderers or purple Martians... Michigan can pass any law it's idiotic House members want, that does not mean it will stand... http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/doctors/oath_modern.html VCZ...what does this mean? You wrote: JudiGemini, your bashing of Bhakti is beyond belief. You put your 2 cents in when it wasn't even about you. wvz was gracious in her response to the very light criticism from Bhakti and showed Bhakti respect and consideration. I don't know why I'm getting in the middle of this, your last post just floored me and I couldn't help myself. Posted by: Laurie on March 30, 2005 01:53 AMJo...my cousin Ginger is a pharmacist....she has confirmed that a number of pharmacists have created many problems by refusing to fill a prescription for any of the birth control pills, RU 486, etc....and as far as she knows, all of them have either been dismissed or disciplined. I wonder what this MI legislature is thinking, surely this violates some sort of LAW? It is like some of the things passed in CA by proposition...emotional responses akin to the Terry Shiavo circus...and most of them are found to be unconstitutional. But I have heard that in CA, even, doctors are not performing certain operations and abortions based on this. Reminds me that ALL Catholic Health Care facilities do the same. Catholic Health Care bought a publically funded hospital in Salinas and eliminated ALL family planning facilities which served the community - and it is the ONLY hospital in the community....it is just criminal. Posted by: judi gemini on March 30, 2005 01:56 AMYou are right, I put my two cents in, Laurie, Bhakti. My mistake, my bad. I was offended personally by Bhakti's comments to VCZ (this is a public board) and I didn't consider that I was committing the sin of triangulation (nor did I know what it meant)....and obviously, I am not a very gracious person....that is what YOU are saying...fine, I can live with that. Lets drop it.....my Aries Mars is being ignited.... Posted by: judi gemini on March 30, 2005 02:00 AMJudi - Aries Mars? Okay, you're excused. hee hee Posted by: Laurie on March 30, 2005 02:02 AMJo, you are so right on!! Do send that to the State of Michigan!! Everybody else to the corner until you can play nicely. Posted by: Pat C on March 30, 2005 02:11 AMJudi, This Michigan legislation is not related to birth control or abortion. Here's headline and couple of paragraphs: Michigan Preparing To Let Doctors Refuse To Treat Gays (Lansing, Michigan) Doctors or other health care providers could not be disciplined or sued if they refuse to treat gay patients under legislation passed Wednesday by the Michigan House. The Republican dominated House passed the measure as dozens of Catholics looked on from the gallery. The Michigan Catholic Conference, which pushed for the bills, hosted a legislative day for Catholics on Wednesday at the state Capitol. The bills now go the Senate which is also controlled by the Republicans. ------------------ Is there any interesting astrology for the weekend of April 15th-17th? I've been noticing that ALOT is being planned for that weekend. I have already heard of 6-7 MAJOR goings-on at personal, local, statewide, and national levels. Is there anything auspicious about that weekend? Posted by: Dave on March 30, 2005 02:24 AMTeressa, Whew! Thanks. I feel better after this little rant. Posted by: Beasley on March 30, 2005 02:33 AMGoodness Dave, We've got the eclipse of April 8, 2005 at 19 Aries Beasley, PLEASE tell us how you REALLY feel? lolol; it's a hard thing to constantly deny, I know. Thanks, everyone, for replying to my request for feedback on the Neptune transit. I had a whole post worked up but the computer wouldn't cooperate (Mercury, Neptune or both?) Oddly, Judy, I felt myself racing, also, yesterday. Didn't know what to connect it to except anger at my husband, as in I'm fed up and not going to take it anymore. He's one hardheaded Aries, Mars/Pluto/Saturn rising in Leo, Scorpio Moon, Taurus Venus. Then we throw in a Mercury Pisces and we have a sometimes confused, ineffective egotistical tyrant (I said sometimes; much of the time he's wonderful). First time I felt my blood pressure go up as it's always 110 and under. Doesn't sound like a Neptune opposition Moon/Pluto in Leo thing to me, but who knows? I can't think of any other transits affecting me right now. Maybe it's progressions? I'll have to look into that one of these days. While I'm rambling, I'll just say that the Pope needing a feeding tube at this point in time does make one wonder if there is a message in the juxtaposition. I think not. Feeding tubes are pretty common in the ill or elderly. It is an interesting "coincidence" though and may reinforce the concept that a feeding tube should never be removed. Jerry Falwall is supposed to be in critical but stable condition. As far as Jonny Cochran, one can only wonder if there is karma involved. I don't really believe in punishment but I do feel that Cochran was an opportunist who advanced a few rungs up the ladder by his legal performance and having so much to do with OJ's acquital. It may or may not be karma; it's all a mystery in the end. Posted by: Sharon Katz on March 30, 2005 02:42 AMI'll take edgy and know it all over mean and long winded anytime. thanks for the compliments. Posted by: bhakti on March 30, 2005 02:45 AMYou can always tell how frenzied an Eclipse or Full Moon is going to be by the number of comments posted on a blog in a day, this coming eclipse promises to be a doozie. Here we are, death watch for Falwell, death watch for the Pope, death watch for Prince Ranier and death watch for Schiavo and wouldn't you know it Johnny Cochran just quietly slipped away. Claudia Dikinis rightly identifies the eclipses the same way as the ancients, "the fall of the kings." Posted by: Sally on March 30, 2005 02:51 AMPosted by: vcz on March 29, 2005 09:56 PM Truth from the worst offender.
wow sally, i'm a leo but i'm glad i'm not a king. i like it around here. what a show we're getting from the universe. delay and frist have both particiapted in 'pulling life support;' the pope may need a feeding tube; and falwell is on a ventilator. now for my fantasy: a unique lightening storm hits downtown dc with lightening completely surrounding (but not hitting) the WH keeping bush and rove trapped for a few hours. with regard to our semi-flame war, vcz said of bhakti: "you might look within to discover which "issue" has you feeling that others should post as you wish. " well, you know, i think that there should be an AW policy wherein every tuesday all AW users "post as" bhakti wishes. get with it. cheers! Posted by: mike on March 30, 2005 03:11 AMSharon, Pluto conjunct any planet gives it power, and conjunct the moon indicates the natives have intense feelings and are strong-willed where their emotions are concerned. This conjunction is being activated during this Neptune transit... which may be causing you some confusion regarding your feelings... you might want to look at your husband's chart and see if he is undergoing any difficult transits... especially, where is tPluto in his chart right now? I say that because I'm married to a Sag and while tPluto is opposing my nSun, it is conjunct his nSun, so we are both feeling the energy of tPluto and it is causing difficulty for each of us, but at different times, as the degrees of our suns are about a week apart. This station Rx for tPluto has come within a degree of his sun, and is now backing off, to oppose mine exactly for the second time this August/September. Perhaps you are both experiencing difficulty now? Posted by: Jo on March 30, 2005 03:12 AMMike, only Leo's are true Kings, the others are lesser ones and this eclipse isn't in Leo. I think if they are hell bent (the media) on making this a political circus, I think the Dems should use the true Leo energy and be Kings. Go down to Florida, take pictures of people on Medicaid and the benefits being cut who will die a worse death than Terri, get pictures of people dying without health care, children who are truly starving in this country, show the people what death without support really looks like. Use their little circus, join them with our own stories and pictures. Posted by: Sally on March 30, 2005 04:06 AMRight on, Captain Sally! The problem is, the Dems don't know how to recover. They are still reeling. Posted by: shylurker on March 30, 2005 04:26 AMThanks, Jo. I would say that with his Mars/Saturn/Pluto in about 12-16 Leo, he is also being misted by Neptune right now (and Mars is heading in that direction :-) Other than having all the Leo in common, his Mercury in 12 Pisces conjuncts my 15 Pisces Jupiter and kind of trines my Cancer ascendant and Uranus. His 22 Taurus Venus and 28 Scorpio moon sextile my Mars/Venus conjunction in 22/24 Pisces. We have a nice blend, but lots of squares and oppositions, including his Uranus at 22 Gemini squaring my Mars/Venus. So, we're working on understanding each other as I'm not the top that hides my feelings. He's not bad at expressing feelings now, although that was what he turned off growing up. Jupiter is retrograde in my 4th house, Mars in Aquarius is transiting his 6th house, and in the last 3 days, we created a new file system and filed mounds of paperwork, and brought all of my belongings home after 2 years in a 6' x 6' storage unit. It was great to see them and they blend remarkably well to everything that's here (I moved into his home when we married, an old New Orleans Victorian raised cottage. I guess that says something about our fit but there are definite incongruities to work with and learn to respect :-) I once wrote a poem about how people in relationships are like time work pieces of driftwood, shaped by the ocean. I appreciate your interest. Sag and Gemini must be a very lively combo ordinarily, with lots of humor, intelligence (we already know that about you), and widespread interests. The great thing about astrology is that, although you know why something is happening, it may not stop you from indulging in it anyway, but we do know that it will pass. Namaste, Namaste, I should have proofed my post, but it's been a busy day and I'm too tired to care about being perfect! Night all :-) And don't tease Bhakti too much, Mike, let's give her a break. Posted by: Sharon Katz on March 30, 2005 04:57 AMLindsey Graham under attack by the "right". http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=7000 Posted by: Pat C on March 30, 2005 05:20 AMJG: Johnnie Cochran has passed away vcz: 67 years old. Inoperable brain tumour. Would love to know the family medical histories. And the year he got his first cell phone. And the number of hours per day he spent on a cell phone. And whether he was right-handed or a southpaw. And the exact location of the tumour... JG: what does this mean? You wrote: vcz: residentbush was born during coup2k. We kept it current and pretty much devoted every waking moment to it, until it almost bankrupted us and began to threaten the rescue shelter. The "left" just doesn't support "its people" the way "the right" does. Speaking of which, am sure most of you will enjoy my email sig: "The truth is useless. You have to understand this right now. You can't deposit the truth in the bank. You can't pay the rent with the truth. The truth is a useless commodity that will hang around your neck like an albatross -- all the way to the homeless shelter. And if you think that the million or so people that are really interested in the truth about their government can support people who would tell them about the truth, you got another think coming. Because the people in this country truly interested in the truth, don't have any money." Attributed to Jeb Bush by Al Martin in a book by Uri Dowbenko Anyway. Have been feeling guilty, and things are a bit better than they've been in a while, so. Unless my saturn transits this summer have other plans for me, Reality's bitch [and that would be "bitch" as in "property of" as opposed to "bitch" as in "rhymes with witch"] will be blogging residentbush.com. At the moment, it's more of a two-coup archive... Now. Mike! You little minx. Don't make me come over there and hurt you, young man. Not only are you stirring the pot [we'll never caramelize!], but *I* wanted Tuesdays!! bakhti, it was, indeed, a bit strange that, with all the Schiavo-related posts in this very thread, mine not being the first [and maybe not even the second], you would choose to say something to me, specifically, and mention that I might "have issues." But, swear t'God, I DIDN'T MIND. You asked, I answered. How could I "take it personally" when my posts were not "out of place" and my "issues" regard the legal, medical, and Constitutional facts of the case [in addition to the issue of "gender equality"]. So you were having a bad moment, and something I'd said, somewhere, hit a nerve and made my posts "more obvious" than others. As "negative feedback" goes, well...those who let things that minor "get to them" will never survive the big stuff. Thank you, JudiGemini, for letting me know that I'm not alone. It was much appreciated. However! The very LAST thing I want is you two crazy kids fighting over me. So shake hands and go beat up Mikey. bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha PEACE [after you're finished beating up Mikey]! Putin urges vigilance against Nazism ORYOL, Russia, March 29 (UPI) -- The world must still guard against attempts to return to Nazism and theories of racial superiority, Russia's president warned Tuesday. During the celebration of the 60th anniversary of the Soviet victory over Nazi Germany in May 1945, special attention should be paid to attempts to rehabilitate Nazism, Putin said according to an Interfax news agency report. "This is especially important, because attempts to rehabilitate Nazis and rewrite history still occur," Putin told the committee organizing the May anniversary celebration. "The ideas of racial and religious superiority, behind which the claims for world leadership are hiding, serve as a ground for new threats," such as international terrorism, separatism and extremism, Putin said according to the Interfax report. Posted by: Pat C on March 30, 2005 06:11 AMsally, you are right on target. radical media! as if my last message wasn't funny enough ("can't we all just get along," r.king), here is a great picture of terry s protesters. check out the kid in the black (Ramones) tee shirt. he's one of us! In mythology, there are many stories of the middle aged and old woman, who is often portrayed as a witch or an old crone, but there is much symbolism involved. After a woman completes menopause, the energy from the reproductive cycle is transmogrified and she becomes a force... a great power, perceived as magical and fearsome. She no longer needs men and is free to live as she wishes. I want to share with you the story of Baba Yaga from Russian folklore. The first link is the story, and the second two are discussions of the mythology. The last one is particularly meaningful to me. http://hazel.forest.net/whootie/stories/baba_yaga_russia.html http://www.oldrussia.net/baba.html http://www.mythinglinks.org/BabaYaga.html Posted by: jm on March 30, 2005 10:35 AMjm,ah. . .the Baba Yaga! I've depicted her in scultpure. She croons from my own heart. And. . .we could all use the power of her magic. (Serendipity at work again on this board for i woke from a dream this morning feeling very much the Baba and some of the Yaga. ;-)) For every woman intent on becoming her own power, there is a point of transition. She no longer gives power to the concept of being disenfranchised because of age. In this she becomes the teacher -- do not give your power away so lightly and choose your battles carefully. karen Posted by: farrout on March 30, 2005 01:36 PMHey stop making menopause a curse. Not only do I know it all, have a great career where I get public recognition for my art, get paid to travel and see the world, but I look in my early 30's and men are always hitting on me. Not feeling bad at all, menopause is the best time of my life. Men love edgy. Mike, you rock, did not take it as teasing. Don't forget , Tuesday arrives weekly, I'll be thinking of my AW wishes. Triangulation = co-dependant behavior, non direct communication, a triangle rather than one to one. Triangulating =cheating spouses, butting in, answering for others, talking about a person behind their back, gossip, crosstalk. Triangulation = distraction from getting deep or intimate. Europeans are apparently now willing to lie down like dogs and accept Wolfowitz as new prez of World Bank. Both World Bank and IMF were created 60 years ago at Bretton Woods by the Avalon Project at Yale Law School. The first paragraph of the Agreements: "(i) To assist in the reconstruction and development of territories of members by facilitating the investment of capital for productive purposes, including the restoration of economies destroyed or disrupted by war, the reconversion of productive facilities to peacetime needs and the encouragement of the development of productive facilities and resources in less developed countries." http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/decade/decad047.htm -------------- One can clearly see that not only will Wolfie pilfer the funds of the World Bank for reconstruction (Halliburton) of Iraq [and some have mentioned Israel], but he will use the legal language of the 'Agreements' to do so! Europeans have asked for the number two spot and some board members, but knowing these fascists, they are probably not holding their breath! Looks to me as if we have some difficult times ahead as this country moves into fascism. Judging by present events, including the villifying of SC Senator Lindsey Graham, there are a number of Republicans who will not mind but will indeed welcome fascism... which appeals to those who have control issues. Markos at dKos ran a thread recently on a poll that showed 70% plus did not know who Ann Coulter or Condi Rice are... [bet they know who Paris Hilton is] Posted by: Jo on March 30, 2005 01:51 PMWho does these polls? I don't know anyone who doesn't know who Ann Coulter or Condi Rice is? .......................... http://salon.com/news/wire/2005/03/29/mercury/print.html Nine states sue gov't over mercury rules Posted by: Pat C on March 30, 2005 02:17 PMbhakti. . .am certain your blessings are a result of hard work. Not every artist is as fortunate though. Some -- like myself -- in lieu of worldly success still find the act of creating its own reward. From one Baba Yaga to another -- KUDOS! karen Posted by: farrout on March 30, 2005 03:14 PMThanks farrout, I do not take my blessings for granted nor use them to hurt anyone. Those with happy hearts never need to down anyone, being in a body is work enough. Rather use my power uplifing children, the Blues, teach thousands of them each year. They are also farrout. love, bhakti the Cronette Posted by: on March 30, 2005 03:27 PMPat C., My handle elsewhere online is Crone... my husband hates that I call myself that... but I remind him that I once was Diana the Hunter but I have moved on... it makes him very uncomfortable... he is still Peter Pan, still looking for Wendy I guess! Anyway, we play lots of parts, don't we? As Ram Dass said, if you're playing the part of a neurotic housewife, play it to the hilt... be the best neurotic around! Posted by: on March 30, 2005 03:55 PMhttp://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/03/29/ace.up.sleeve/index.html But as the Social Security debate continues to unfold, do not underestimate President Bush's ability to still get his ideas enacted. Indeed, even without broad Congressional or public support, President Bush just may have an ace up his sleeve. How might he enact his private accounts idea without such support, you may ask? By executive order. Are we at a point of no return or is this the straw that breaks the camel's back? As a side note, I heard a great nickname for Ann Coulter - Annthrax! Posted by: abilene on March 30, 2005 04:36 PMSharon Katz, I am offended by your comments equating Johnny Cochoran's brain tumor as karmic payback for his defense of OJ. Johnny was doing his job. He provided the best defense of his client(I believe he was guilty) within the bounds of the established law. You and others, who still blame JC for OJ aquittal, should spread some of that venom to Marcia Clark and Chris Darden who presented an ineffectual and down right imcompetent case. Rememeber the glove debacle? He worked on countless cases before the OJ Media Spectacle to zero fanfare. Specifically, Geronimo Pratt, who JC spent years fighting to overturn his wrongful conviction and expose the corruption in the CA. justice system. To crystalize JC's career on one case and dismiss his entire previous work on behalf of blacks, whites, latinos and indians whose civil rights were at stake is an injustice. By your reasoning, karmically speaking, Ariel Sharon and BushCo. can look forward to death by drowning in a cauldron of hot boiling middle eastern oil. Posted by: on March 30, 2005 04:54 PMI was raising the possibility that there might be a karmic connection, and did not say that he did not do good in his life (in fact, he was euologized as a humanitarian). No one actually knows how karma works so there is always that possibility. I do have a problem with attorneys going all out to defend people that are really pretty obviously guilty. They have the choice as to what case to accept. This was a very high profile case and a career/p.r. opportunity for many. I think it was the LA police who contaminated the evidence. Additionally, as is the case with many "defenses," one of the police was made to look like a racist (similar to what was done to John Kerry) so that became the issue, rather than O.J. Yes, that was the job of the defense, to find out what might have skewed the case so the client doesn't get a fair trial. However, our legal system seems to be more about winning and getting people off the hook rather than holding them accountable. If I remember correctly, O.J.'s defense attornies claimed he was "innocent." I have a problem with that. Posted by: Sharon on March 30, 2005 05:32 PMSharon, You said "If I remember correctly, O.J.'s defense attornies claimed he was "innocent." I have a problem with that." The way our judicial system is supposed to work, one is presumed innocent until proven guilty. The operative word here being 'proven'... If lawyers declined cases because of their own personal opinions, we probably could not hold court. Alan Dershowitz defended Klaus von Bulow, Nathan Saransky and numerous other high profile defendents ---- INCLUDING OJ Simpson... and Prof Dershowitz has nothing but the highest praise for Cochran. As for 'karma' --- it is thought to be the Law... that is to say, for every action, cause... there is effect. (Same as science teaches). Thus, one cannot escape the consequences of one's actions. Catch is, we are not always privy to the consequences of the actions of others.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,5158523-103681,00.html Posted by: wv on March 30, 2005 06:07 PMMore Morford....on Living Wills.... Posted by: wv on March 30, 2005 06:37 PMF.B.I. Papers and 9/11 Published: March 30, 2005 To the Editor: Re "New Details on F.B.I. Aid for Saudis After 9/11" (news article, March 27): I think it's worth adding that the newly released F.B.I. documents flatly contradict repeated assertions by both the White House and the F.B.I. that the Bush administration played no role in the evacuation of the members of the royal House of Saud in the days immediately after 9/11. As the author of "House of Bush, House of Saud" and the Vanity Fair article about the Saudi flights that triggered the F.B.I. investigation, I was told by the F.B.I. spokesman, John Iannarelli, "I can say unequivocally that the F.B.I. had no role in facilitating these flights one way or another." White House officials declined to comment on the record, but privately one told me that he had made repeated inquiries and was "confident" that no such flights had taken place. However, these new documents show conclusively that the flights not only took place, but also, in the F.B.I.'s own words, that people on them may have been "involved in or had knowledge of the 9/11/2001 attacks." In that context, it is especially disturbing to know that the White House had access to all this information and chose to conceal it. Craig Unger New York, March 27, 2005 http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/30/opinion/l30saudis.html Posted by: Pat C on March 30, 2005 06:56 PMWonderful Crone, Lily Tomlin said it best. "No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up." I do worry about polls, no matter where they come from. Everything has been so manipulated at this point, I truly don't accept anything at face value any more. It's a Scorpio trait. ;-) Posted by: Pat C on March 30, 2005 07:03 PMIn the Name of Politics St. Louis — BY a series of recent initiatives, Republicans have transformed our party into the political arm of conservative Christians. The elements of this transformation have included advocacy of a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage, opposition to stem cell research involving both frozen embryos and human cells in petri dishes, and the extraordinary effort to keep Terri Schiavo hooked up to a feeding tube. Standing alone, each of these initiatives has its advocates, within the Republican Party and beyond. But the distinct elements do not stand alone. Rather they are parts of a larger package, an agenda of positions common to conservative Christians and the dominant wing of the Republican Party. Christian activists, eager to take credit for recent electoral successes, would not be likely to concede that Republican adoption of their political agenda is merely the natural convergence of conservative religious and political values. Correctly, they would see a causal relationship between the activism of the churches and the responsiveness of Republican politicians. In turn, pragmatic Republicans would agree that motivating Christian conservatives has contributed to their successes. High-profile Republican efforts to prolong the life of Ms. Schiavo, including departures from Republican principles like approving Congressional involvement in private decisions and empowering a federal court to overrule a state court, can rightfully be interpreted as yielding to the pressure of religious power blocs. In my state, Missouri, Republicans in the General Assembly have advanced legislation to criminalize even stem cell research in which the cells are artificially produced in petri dishes and will never be transplanted into the human uterus. They argue that such cells are human life that must be protected, by threat of criminal prosecution, from promising research on diseases like Alzheimer's, Parkinson's and juvenile diabetes. It is not evident to many of us that cells in a petri dish are equivalent to identifiable people suffering from terrible diseases. I am and have always been pro-life. But the only explanation for legislators comparing cells in a petri dish to babies in the womb is the extension of religious doctrine into statutory law. I do not fault religious people for political action. Since Moses confronted the pharaoh, faithful people have heard God's call to political involvement. Nor has political action been unique to conservative Christians. Religious liberals have been politically active in support of gay rights and against nuclear weapons and the death penalty. In America, everyone has the right to try to influence political issues, regardless of his religious motivations. The problem is not with people or churches that are politically active. It is with a party that has gone so far in adopting a sectarian agenda that it has become the political extension of a religious movement. When government becomes the means of carrying out a religious program, it raises obvious questions under the First Amendment. But even in the absence of constitutional issues, a political party should resist identification with a religious movement. While religions are free to advocate for their own sectarian causes, the work of government and those who engage in it is to hold together as one people a very diverse country. At its best, religion can be a uniting influence, but in practice, nothing is more divisive. For politicians to advance the cause of one religious group is often to oppose the cause of another. Take stem cell research. Criminalizing the work of scientists doing such research would give strong support to one religious doctrine, and it would punish people who believe it is their religious duty to use science to heal the sick. During the 18 years I served in the Senate, Republicans often disagreed with each other. But there was much that held us together. We believed in limited government, in keeping light the burden of taxation and regulation. We encouraged the private sector, so that a free economy might thrive. We believed that judges should interpret the law, not legislate. We were internationalists who supported an engaged foreign policy, a strong national defense and free trade. These were principles shared by virtually all Republicans. But in recent times, we Republicans have allowed this shared agenda to become secondary to the agenda of Christian conservatives. As a senator, I worried every day about the size of the federal deficit. I did not spend a single minute worrying about the effect of gays on the institution of marriage. Today it seems to be the other way around. The historic principles of the Republican Party offer America its best hope for a prosperous and secure future. Our current fixation on a religious agenda has turned us in the wrong direction. It is time for Republicans to rediscover our roots. John C. Danforth, a former United States senator from Missouri, resigned in January as United States ambassador to the United Nations. He is an Episcopal minister. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/30/opinion/30danforth.html?th&emc=th&oref=login Posted by: Pat C on March 30, 2005 07:06 PMPat C: Regarding the Friedman piece, yes I very much would appreciate reading it in its entirety. It kinda surprised me - his position on this - because I had seen him several times on Tim Russert's program(when we still could get MSNBC) and he didn't strike me as somebody that "out there". :~) abakan1@yahoo.com ... that's me. OG Posted by: old granny on March 30, 2005 08:00 PMCheck your mail OG. Posted by: Pat C on March 30, 2005 08:37 PMYes, Jo, we do not understand the workings of karma. I do know of Dershowitz and mostly admire him, and I'm sure Cochran has done a lot of good; however, regarding our system, I do not always agree with the way it works - there is too much room for lack of accountability and justice due to the efforts of clever lawyers. It is one thing to fight for someone's right to a fair trial, it is another to defend them and fight for their acquital even if there is much evidence to the contrary. Our system allows too many loopholes in the law. I don't know about karma. There may be a law of weights and measures at play where, if the good outways the bad, the bad is cancelled. That part is not in my hands and is beyond my understanding. I believe that I could not, in good conscience, represent a person that I knew in my heart to be guilty. Our system may say innocent until proven guilty, but it is not always the cause that if someone is not proven guilty that they are innocent. The LA police are obviously no angels and their shenanigans could be why the jury acquited O.J., but, in my mind, that shouldn't be enough. Posted by: Sharon on March 30, 2005 09:50 PMVery interesting: "The 11th Circuit Court in Atlanta rejected the Schindler appeal on a 9-2 decision, stating “the time has come for dispassionate discharge of duty”. In addition, Judge Birch’s opinion states (pdf) that the law passed by Congress is unconstitutional." Jupiter is exactly conjuct the USA Saturn in Libra now, and for the moment, it looks like our judidcial system is functioning 'properly'. Posted by: jm on March 30, 2005 11:20 PM"judicial", I mean. Of course the court system is flawed, since it's humans judging humans, and fraught with imperfection. But it isn't bad from an international and historical perspective. Posted by: jm on March 30, 2005 11:26 PMhere's a thread on Smirking Chimp where a guy is quoted as saying he's in the Florida Nat. Guard and Jeb is calling 'em up for an internal security matter. The guy says they're going to storm the hospice: http://www.smirkingchimp.com/viewtopic.php?topic=51914&forum=7 Posted by: Peg on March 31, 2005 12:36 AMApparently Putin returned the look into dimbot's eyes and also saw dimbot's soul : ""This is especially important, because attempts to rehabilitate Nazis and rewrite history still occur," Putin told the committee organizing the May anniversary celebration. Sharon, you wrote: I am in complete agreement. I lived in LA for all of the 1960's....I absorbed a lot of what was going on then....and the minute Gil Garcetti, the LA DA, started making OJ his 'target' item, I knew what was afoot. Garcetti was running again for DA.... Often people are convicted or aquitted for the perceptions....not always for the truth. Posted by: judi gemini on March 31, 2005 01:45 AMOK....I am also going to ad that I liked all of OJ's team (2 of whom are now dead)....and partiacularily J. Cochran. It is a waste that he has gone so young (67 is young for a brilliant man )....And more slings and arrows, I looked at the time of that trial at the astrology involved and believe that the astrology between Nicole and OJ was so explosive and so powerful, that in effect it is like a "karma' situation....in otherwords, they just couldn't ignore each other. Check out their charts....it is really spooky. And his chart showed that he would spend time in court or jail, but not incarcerated or put to death. I refuse to say he is innocent or guilty....they were both 'acting out'. I also believe that Nicole knew exactly what buttons to push and how to push them, and she went way to far doing it. Having been involved in an abusive relationship and having gone thru therapy, I learned all that I could about the gestalt. And how to walk away FROM it. She didn't, and she paid. She played with fire....and having done it myself, I know what a tug that gives you....and how hard it is to stop. Whether he killed them, I still don't know. I do know Garcetti was going to 'make his bones' on that case; in fact, I see little difference between OJ and Terry Shiavo for hoopla. And it HAS BEEN 12 YEARS....A JUPITER CIRCUIT, RIGHT? I just thought of it. Posted by: judi gemini on March 31, 2005 02:06 AMStanley F. Birch Jr., one of the members of the Atlanta-based 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. "While the members of her family and the members of Congress have acted in a way that is both fervent and sincere, the time has come for dispassionate discharge of duty." The judge went on to deliver a scathing attack on politicians who got involved in the case, saying the White House and lawmakers "have acted in a manner demonstrably at odds with our Founding Fathers' blueprint for the governance of a free people _ our Constitution." *** 11th Circuit Judge Stanley Birch also sent quite a message to the White House and Congress giving a a definition of what an activist judge is - and it was not the same definition the WH has --- and his opinion of their interfering with the Judiciary - unfortunately, so far, his statements or a transcript of them in full are nowhere on the internet - yet. VCZ....well, as I said a few posts back, all this energy on my Mars, (8 Aries), and I do have a reputation for 'going off'....doesn't happen very often, but when it does!!!! But I was leaping to your defense, and my own....I was incensed that I would have to worry down the line about what I was posting, and was I going to have bhakti on my case, because she didn't like what I was posting about....and that was what it was about. I found the whole exchange publically humiliating, and I am glad you are made of sterner stuff than I am. Me, I am just a hothead! Thanks for the connection to your blog....now I understand. As for beating up Mike....it is hard to beat up the ephemeral Mike! He just skips away laughing.....so glad he is hear to make us laugh. Posted by: judi gemini on March 31, 2005 02:21 AMOh I give up for pity sakes... everyone knows the judicial system is not perfect... everyone knows there are corrupt police on almost any force... we're talking about human nature... but fault the system, suggest changes... don't judge a man who passed away by saying he has karma coming... heck, we all have karma coming... I think some people on this board were offended that Cochran passed and a comment was made about him and karma and OJ... and the question is... would that same comment have been made if someone else, say a white lawyer known for his manipulation of the law, had died? How 'bout ol' Dershowitz? The OJ Simpson case is over... done. Whatever anyone 'thinks' happened... the law is not about what people THINK... it is about the law... if you want to get all worked up, how bout the number of Black males incarcerated --- many of whom simply couldn't afford a lawyer...? One can't go slinging comments about people, especially dead people, without taking responsibility. Posted by: Jo on March 31, 2005 02:27 AMHa! Oh my goodness... http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00001296.htm Posted by: Pat C on March 31, 2005 02:31 AMJo....thanks for the clarification on the MI legislature....I got the Catholic thing right....they were involved. This is truly horrifying. Reality does bite, and bite hard. I have mentioned this before....in CA, at least, developementally disabled people are routinely denied care. How Xtian of these freaks, huh? Remember, do they, that Jesus walked among the lepers and healed them? Yoda, where are you, we need you now.... Posted by: judi gemini on March 31, 2005 02:33 AMJo, dear, I was just mentioning the possibility of there being a connection between Jonny Cochran's defense of a person I believe was guilty of murder (O.J.) and his early death. I was not even that serious because I have no idea of the nature of celestial justice. I wish no harm on Jonny or anyone else, and, yes, I would think these things no matter the race, group, gender, age, religion. I happen to have strong feelings on certain things like you do, and others on this board do. I observed the evidence in the case, and O.J. seemed to me (and many others) to be guilty (even his expressions gave me that impression). I was on a jury and I know that you must deliberate under the exact guidelines given. Anything that is amiss, no matter how small, is cause not to convict. I just don't happen to agree with that way of doing things as too many people get away with murder, especially when they have good lawyers. Yet, what people get away with is not my business per se, it is the business of karmic law and celestial justice. I was just making an observation and raising a question. Another point is that one's inner self can cause one to become ill because of actions against the greater good. Posted by: Sharon on March 31, 2005 02:46 AMJo....thanks for the clarification on the MI legislature....I got the Catholic thing right....they were involved. This is truly horrifying. Reality does bite, and bite hard. I have mentioned this before....in CA, at least, developementally disabled people are routinely denied care. How Xtian of these freaks, huh? Remember, do they, that Jesus walked among the lepers and healed them? Yoda, where are you, we need you now.... Posted by: judi gemini on March 31, 2005 02:56 AMSally, I think you need to turn this into a message board. We have some really great conversations kind-of on here and it would be so much fun to explore them further. Any hopes of that? Posted by: Peg on March 31, 2005 04:07 AMPerhaps those who wish to attack each other could simply contact each other and do so directly. The rest of us could carry on as usual, sharing and so forth on Captain Sally's astroworld. Posted by: shylurker on March 31, 2005 04:42 AMI just watched an interview on CNN with Randall Terry, one of the Godfathers of the new religious right mafia. His statement about American judges just blew me away. I can't quote exactly as I was in too much shock (and awe) at the time to remember the exact wording, but it was pretty close to: "There is no rule of law anymore in this country because these out of control judges are issuing absolutely the wrong decisions"!! Guess Jeb, W, DeLay, etc. have to finally take 'em out of their sorry-ass courtrooms, shackle them, and send 'em straight to Guantanamo until they get them some learnin' about how to kerektly do that judgin' stuff" Posted by: Grizzly on March 31, 2005 05:03 AMRandall Terry talks like a criiminal. Posted by: Pat C on March 31, 2005 05:11 AMPat C. re your comment concerning "leaving it to the repubs to ... turn the needle red", it's part of the strategy. To exhaust us. To rend us. To make us believe that it's futile, that we can't do anything about all that's happening ... to give up. In the end, we will learn to be outraged and help others to be outraged with us ... pass on the articles, the news, everyone's on the internet ... educate, educate, educate ... pass it on ... it makes all the difference in the world because in the end, the real news is on the internet and it's our job to alleviate our suffering by educating others or at least exposing them to an alternate opinion .. it takes time ... but in the end it does work. blessings to all, Posted by: Marta on March 31, 2005 05:39 AMLil Randall IS a criminal. ;O) Posted by: JoannaOregon on March 31, 2005 05:43 AMMarta, I've spent uncountable hours doing just that, for y.e.a.r.s I sometime feel so exhausted and discouraged, but I won't stop, ever. Joanna, I know. ;-) I'm being "careful". I'm not all that sure why I'm being careful, but I try anyway....sometimes. Posted by: Pat C on March 31, 2005 06:00 AMhttp://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/032405_world_stories.shtml#2 That first Baba Yaga story sounds almost like a Russian version of "Hansel and Gretel." Some myths and ideas have a way of transcending geography and culture. Posted by: Dave on March 31, 2005 07:07 AMI agree with you .
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