Ah, there's nothing sweeter than the fresh scent of Saturn on a balmy spring morning! :-/ Here we go.

http://tinyurl.com/66bd7

Bill Clinton to Have Scar Tissue Removed

Former President Clinton, who underwent quadruple bypass surgery in September, will undergo a medical procedure this week to remove fluid and scar tissue from his left chest, his office announced Tuesday.

The procedure will take place Thursday at New York-Presbyterian Hospital/Columbia University Medical Center. Clinton is expected to remain in the hospital for three to 10 days, his office said in a statement.

Clinton was proceeding with his schedule in Washington on Tuesday. He smiled and waved to reporters as he entered the State Department for meetings, but did not make any comment. He planned to be at a White House event later in the day, according to his spokesman, Jim Kennedy.

More...

glad you touched on this Sally. I've read somewhere else that the late degrees of Cardinal signs are having trouble (Clinton going back in for surgery) and I have felt for some time that the powers that be are setting Bush up for a fall. As you intimated, we mere puppets have no real idea what's going on behind the scenes and towards what purpose. There are still a couple of axioms I feel are true (only a couple because my beliefs in most things have been shattered): the truth always rises to the top, and what goes around comes around. We've got beaucoup crocuses (croki?)coming up in central Il., not long before the tulips & daffodils!!!

Wonderful Sally. Thanks. The kind of "rounding up" all that's happening that really lays it all out.

This morning's news..Just My Bill going into the hospital for more surgery around the heart and the collapsed lung.

Dear God, you've got the wrong President! I haven't done his chart, which I will and post up here, but Lordy, on the verge of Mercury Rx is lousy. All have been talking about bad events March/April. Please God, let it not be him.

Even that bottom crawler bob novak yesterday commented on Crossfire, talking about pappy traveling with Just My Bill and how they got along - "Well you know, anyone who spends anytime with Bill Clinton, whether its man or woman, falls in love with him" - !!!!!! quite an admission of admiration coming from the epitome of the insensitive.

"On top of everything else the Christian Right is trying to get the Sports Illustrated Swim Suit edition taken off the market. "

Puritanism. Pure unadulterated Puritanism .
We who post here, we astrologers and intuitives
should be feeling a sense of discomfort. This astrologer is. What's next? Tests of not being "possessed" - dunking till drowned? We are about to be labeled sifnul - again- joining the ranks of the "banned" .

Oil and gas stocks are down.
While Silver is going up $7.48
and Gold rose $4.00 today to $438.00.

Chicken Little :)

wow, i'm at work and got on dial-up (bummer). boy was it worth it. sally, this is one of the very best articles i've seen on AW. it's packed with interesting information and karma will out. all those leaders are in line for some corrections, or as "gannon" says, hopefully 'no marks,just lasting impressions.'

i'm getting some snacks, turning on the universal television network, and watching the show (while taking care of my business). i figure i'm ok sincne i have not lied to the american people and world, have not started wars, tortured people on airplanes ane elsewhere, and the list goes on. i hope it's time for some instructive 'consequences' for the perpetrators of our current maladies.

cheers

hey you guys & gals, Riverbend's gotta new post up:http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/

Sally -

thanks for mentioning the Uranus square Us Uranus.

"Uranus is squaring the US Uranus for the first time next week. US Uranus rules the 3rd house in America’s chart (communication and media) more stunners for the media, maybe with better reporting as a result by January 2006. "

hopefully the rebellion I wrote of long ago would take place - but I'm not betting on it....

but better yet, the consolidation of the media into 6 corporate coffers may be broken up with that aspect.

The fact that several news shows including CNN and MSNBC every day report on what the bloggers are saying, speaks loudly of their awareness that they are being made irrelevant.

Uranus also rules "government" in general. Now this will be interesting. I suspect we are going to be witnessing either strikes by govt workers and the rebellion of parts of the government against other parts of the government. From the liberal viewpoint, what could be better?

Also, I would not get on an airplane with this aspect in effect. It also speaks of roads and travel, the infrastructure of the country breaking down.

Maybe it will wake up the "purported" 51 percent who voted for him ( I don;t believe 51 percent voted for him at all!)

Chicken Little :0 - since I seem to always be reporting the sky is falling, I guess that should be my new signature. :D

Thanks, Sally, for another wonderful article. There's only one problem....that darn song is going to be in my head for the rest of the day.

Woo wee Sally, are you ever on the money!

“ My personal favorite to watch has been Arnold Schwarzenegger”…last night he was here, in NYC, and the California nurses and firefighters were joined by the New York firefighters who said for the TV cameras, “We don’t want him in our city and we don’t want him in our state.”

“mercifully the Democrats will be a bit more solid in their front” Well they do seem to be acquiring a backbone in recent weeks, and Harry Reid, much to my surprise, is turning out to be quite the little fighter

“The Gannon/Guckert scandal is either just beginning or there are major outings coming to the front burner”. This is excellent news, as it hasn’t gotten the traction it deserved and a good stiff sock to the fundies may be just what they need. And while not a NASCAR fan, if they want to pummel the right’s hypocrisy and thumb screwing our rights.

Bill Clinton has to have another procedure for his heart.

On a personal level, “flu, colds, low energy” have plagued us since November, and as of last night a cracked tooth means “dental problems”.

This is an absolutely wonderful non-article (or so you say) because it pinpoints so much, and it indicates chickens coming home to roost, and perhaps, finally, truth reaching the light of day. It’s hard to imagine how much more shocked we could be over events in this country but when J. Bolton was picked yesterday for the UN, I knew the bottom of the barrel hadn’t been scraped.

Forgot to add, yesterday it was 60 degrees, today we have a snowstorm. Ah, saturn, saturn, saturn!

Oh, boy, Captain Sally's back! And what a wonderful article. You can feel it building, can't you? It seems to be coming from many directions, which your article captured perfectly. Thanks ever so much.

Sally,

What a simply wonderful, informative article to read on this surprisingly snowy day. Like M. said, it was 60 degrees yesterday and now, today (in NYC), it's a friggin' blizzard today!!!! Go figure.

Just wanted to add my congratulations to the growing list of those enjoying Sally's latest. :-)

Yes, all of you AWers have it right. Captain Sally it IS. This was terrific. I'm also learning more and more thanks to all of YOU. Am still rather vague about the nodes though i do know they have karma written all over them (if only i knew how to interpret a little better ;-) But Saturn first hit my Gemini Sun and now has been hovering over my VOC 5th house Cancer Moon and adding a dimension of emotional depth.

Could Uranus square Uranus also indicate some sort of instant and astounding communication disruption? i.e. powerful storms (we just experienced that here in Tennessee and apparently this storm is sweeping up the east coast) or attacks on the communication infrastructure?

karen

Nearly 500,000 pro-Syrian protesters waved flags and chanted anti-American slogans in a central Beirut square Tuesday, answering a nationwide call by the militant Shiite Muslim Hezbollah group for a demonstration to counter weeks of massive rallies demanding Syrian forces leave Lebanon. Organizers handed out Lebanese flags and directed the men and women to separate sections of the square. Loudspeakers blared militant songs urging resistance to foreign interference. Demonstrators held up pictures of Syrian President Bashar Assad and signs saying, "Syria & Lebanon brothers forever."

http://news.yahoo.com/fc?tmpl=fc&cid=34&in=world&cat=Lebanon

Secret Service says Gannon/Gucky was approved appropriately. Could this be part of the coming revelation?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1294109#1294140

Oil up to $55 a barrel at 2 PM

Gold up to $440 !

Relocating Just My Bill's chart to New York, NY
gives him 26 Virgo rising, with Mars Neptune moving to his first house.

I don;t like his transits for the Mercury Rx.
T. Jupiter is on the midpoint of his first house
Venus-Chiron.

I have found that even when you relocate, your underlying birth chart still registers, and his birthchart gives him a Venus (Libra) ruled chart.

Right now, in the New York area he has a Virgo ruled chart and transiting Mercury in the 7th house squares his natal Saturn-Mercury-Pluto in the 11th house.

Mars/Neptune moving to his first house from the 12th makes him very susceptible to infections.

T Pluto is conjunct his 4th house cusp and is co ruler of his Aries 8th house. T. Pluto opposes his natal Uranus.

Transiting South Node is conjunct his natal Jupiter in the second, , Transiting Vertex is square the midpoint of his natal Saturn/Mercury (ruler of his relocated chart)

T Mars and Sun are at the 29th degree.T Mars at 29 Cap is conjunct Chiron at 1 Aquarius, sextile
Transiting Venus and Sun on the 7th.

Transiting Venus is at 26 Pisces on his 7th house cusp opposition his 26 Virgo Ascendant.
Taurus is also in his 8th house.

I don't like these aspects for surgery for him at all. And I certainly don't like Venus exactly on his 7th cusp.

This is not a walk in the park as they all seem to be inferring. It could be close.

"approved appropriately?" that makes it an even bigger problem if the FBI could not find out what blogger found out about him in 10 minutes. Do you think this means that it's appropriate to be a prostitute and in the White House. What would James Dobson say?

Farrout, Uranus square the US Uranus could indeed make "communications" haywire, but it won't just be on thing that happens with that aspect. That aspect has historically been one we went to war on as well. It is also complicated because it hits GWB Mars (opposition) and progressed Sun, it will create an up in the air year.

Karen,

right you are.

Uranus square Uranus can be communication disruption...but Uranus rules several things, many things such as

govt.,
airplanes,
big machinery like trains - report of big big trainwreck just occurred in California..-
all electronic equipment
electric
uranium
shocks
surprises
astrology
the unusual
with other planets such as mars or pluto, earthquakes, land movement...

but with Uranus square Uranus - major upset

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/3/8/122614/6166

Pulitzer winner Laurie Garrett blasts media, quits today

"What we're watching die is not just people but entire cultures.  This is a far more dramatic holocaust than anything we have seen in hundreds of years."

I can't count the times I've hung onto the words of Laurie Garrett, so important are her words for humanity. Garrett snapped me to attention with the  "BETRAYAL OF TRUST: The Collapse of Global Public Health," "The Coming Plague," countless articles and TV appearances.

Today, as Laurie Garrett leaves Newsday, she blasts big media names:

NYT reporter "Judy Miller's bogus weapons of mass destruction coverage," acting as a "conduit for the Department of Defense for weapons of mass destruction disinformation"

the "media's inaccurate and inappropriate convictions of Wen Ho Lee, Richard Jewell and Steven Hatfill" and "an investigative reporting team [unnamed] that relied on a single source for a series that smeared the life of an innocent man"

"CBS' failure to smell a con job regarding Bush's Texas Air Guard career"

the New York Times' "fostering [of] a Jayson Blair"

"a bozo who accepted $250,000 from the Bush Administration to write flattering stories"

More...

Provision relating to abortion clinic protestors buried in the bankruptcy bill??

WASHINGTON - In the first abortion-related test of the new Congress, the Republican-controlled Senate turned back a Democratic effort Tuesday to bar violent protesters from using bankruptcy to avoid payment of court judgments.

http://tinyurl.com/6qrxg

Thanks for a wonderful article, Sally!

I've been following the Gannon/Guckert story via Daily Kos. It seems like it has something for everyone - forbidden man love, religious hypocrisy, pseudonyms, corruption, deceit, really it just sums up the best sides of the Bush administration. It seems the Corporate media won't touch it though, and the public at large is wholly ignorant of the story. Is there evidence that this scandal is gaining strength? Seems like this could be the scandal that brings the administration down, but I've thought that many times over the last few years. I wonder if the fundies are going to be shaken to the core over this or if their cognitive dissonance will remain steadfast.

Namaste~
~D

In view of Sally's predictions, here is a really tantalizing story on the Clint Curtis affair.

http://www.bradblog.com/ClintCurtisSummary.htm

M.,
Reading the letter at Raw story, it appears the only concern the Secret Service has is whether or not the applying member of the press poses a threat to the President or not.

We can all understand then that a male hooker posed no threat to the resident.

Well, neither was Monica a threat to the President... just the 'presidency'..., right?

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Army soldiers in Iraq (news - web sites) filmed themselves kicking a gravely wounded prisoner in the face and making the arm of a corpse appear to wave, then titled the effort "Ramadi Madness" after the city where it was made.

The video, made public on Monday, was shot by Florida National Guard soldiers. They edited and compiled it into a DVD in January 2004, with various sections bearing titles such as "Those Crafty Little Bastards" and "Another Day, Another Mission, Another Scumbag."

The soldiers' unit served in the restive Sunni Muslim city Ramadi, about 70 miles west of Baghdad, before returning home a year ago.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/nm/20050308/ts_nm/iraq_usa_abuse_dc

Juan Cole speaks:

You want to end terrorism? End unjust military occupations. By all means have Syria conduct an orderly withdrawal from Lebanon if that is what the Lebanese public wants. But Israel needs to withdraw from the Golan Heights, which belong to Syria, as well. The Israeli military occupation of Gaza and the West Bank must be ended. The Russian scorched-earth policy in Chechnya needs to stop. Some just disposition of the Kashmir issue must be attained, and Indian enormities against Kashmiri Muslims must stop. The U.S. needs to conduct an orderly and complete withdrawal from Iraq. And when all these military occupations end, there will be some hope for a vast decrease in terrorism. People need a sense of autonomy and dignity, and occupation produces helplessness and humiliation. Humiliation is what causes terrorism.

http://www.antiwar.com/cole/?articleid=5106

Well...my Jupiter is at 25 Cancer, conjunct B**'s Saturn....no wonder I do so poorly in this rPrez-accidency.

And things are NOT going well for me....luckily, most of the time they don't anyway and I'm used to it!

Quite a juicy article, Sally, and great comments and links...

Bravo, Sally! Well done no frills article, just textured soy & potatoes so to speak.

I want to see "them" sweat, but for those of us "enlightened ones," our karma will protect us since we are on the right path :-)

Thank you, and thank you, Pallas 18 for all of your interesting astrological analysis, which I will study later when I have time. Don't worry about Just Your Bill. He leads a charmed life -- remember. (I think it's his good karma).

If Uranus wakes the media up, maany of our problems will begin to be solved. We need as many courageous, break-away journalists that we can get!

Namaste.

Twisting the Minds of the American People

More War Crimes

By Brian Cloughley

Let me paint a word picture. An unarmed, wounded American soldier is lying helpless, bleeding and barely conscious on the floor of a church in a country with which the US is at war. An armed soldier of that country walks up to the wounded American. It so happens that a TV cameraman is present. He films the foreign soldier shouting, "He's fucking faking he's dead!" One of his comrades says "And he's breathing". The first soldier again yells "He's faking he's fucking dead!" He then kills the helpless, wounded man with a burst of fire that blows his head off and spatters the room with blood and tiny bits of flesh and bone. One of the foreign soldiers says "He's dead, now."

Question One: What do you think the reaction of most of the American people would be to the murder of a wounded, unarmed US soldier lying helpless and barely conscious on the floor of a church in a foreign land?

Question Two: What was the reaction of most of the American people to the murder of a wounded, unarmed Iraqi lying helpless and barely conscious on the floor of a mosque in his own country?

more

http://207.44.245.159/article8214.htm

Although I have been a fan of this site for years, have never posted before. I'd love to believe that the spring and summer alignments will be difficult for the administration and repugs but have to admit that so far, much of what we hoped might happen has yet come to pass. As I watch this country slip further and further backwards (this new bankruptcy bill that will be signed into law soon is a good example)I can only hope that these dogs will finally have their day.........

I don't know why, but I really believe that the Gannon/Guckert story has allot of teeth to it, and I don't think this is the end, but the beginning. Gannon, to me, will be the doorway to something bigger.

The Mars/Pluto conjunction in the eight house on the Admin's second term chart, to me, isn't the classical martian prediction of War with others. This Pluto/Mars conjunction means something even more perverse. Pluto, the higher vibration of Mars, wants to express itself on the psychological level. Indeed, Pluto rules psychology.

THe Gannon/Guckert story has all of these Plutonian components - the sexual issues of control, of secrets, and of destruction. The administration maybe destroyed (the action of Pluto) not because of Martians drive for classical physical war, but because of war within the psychological underpinnings of this Administration. In classical astrology, Mars seperates things, and Pluto tells me that it will seperate the party from the collective (i.e. us, you and me, and the general population) through its own hidden secrets and psychological dysfunction.

This is when Uranus comes in and the future Uranus squared the US Uranus. maybe this will be the time when the admin's secrets will be exposed.

Just an idea. Would love to read comments

Army Report: US lost control in iraq three months
after invasion...

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/05/breaking2453436.980555556.html

Jo & Travieso

It would be deliciously ironic if Gannon did indeed turn out to be ***H's Monica. Interesting, though that the SS would speak openly about their "check" on Gannon. I thought they had a tradition of never speaking about their work or assignments. In addition, I wonder what criteria they used to determine that a prostitute with no news affiliation (remember Talon wasn't set up until a few months, later) was not a security risk and therefore should be allowed into the WH and to attend presidential briefings.

Excellent comment, Travis. I wondered, too, about expanding our understanding of how both Mars and Pluto would work in that 8th House. And in moving away from the much more recognizable and certainly expected "war, war, war" and into something a bit deeper and -- with that 8th House -- internal (8th House can be internal stuff, yes?), I think you may be onto something here.

It will be fascinating to those of us who are actually aware of what's going on with this Administration to see how the "I LOVE BUSH" Fundies will handle a gay male hooker having access (no pun intended ... really!) to the White House and Bush's minions. :-)

Here we go. Uranus in the third square Uranus.

Lou Dobbs reporting that Theresa Heinz Kerry has
said (today?) that she doesn't believe Bush won
the election.......

to be continued.

Theresa has more cugliones than her spouse.

Pallas,

I think that Democratic Underground has the exact quotes somewhere. Got to hand it to her ... I like her style! But Lou Dobbs reporting on it? Wow! :-)

I'm falling in love with Saturn. Hope it's not unrequited.

Sally said, "This country is in the process of growing up and finding a better way for us and that process is never easy, because everyone has a different idea of what it means to have a “better way.” What’s your concept of a “better way?” Now is the time to put those thoughts into words and action when appropriate."

As a cardinal creature, I can attest to this. I have grown up considerably in the last year. When Saturn leaves Cancer I think the citizens of this great country will be through with being treated like bad kids. Hopefully Leo will renew some pride and dignity.

Travieso, I think you make some good points. The Mars/Pluto has flashing lights on it to me. I think maybe the Pluto is bringing all of these prurient behaviors, all the taboos, to the surface so Mars can battle them. I also see this as an internal struggle, and a confrontation with psychological demons.
With Pluto on the Asendant of GW's chart, I see him as a giant sewage sucker, taking in all of the society's negative waste. As painful as it is to see it all revealed, I do believe much of it is going down the drain. George has an endless capacity to have it dumped on him, with the shame he lacks.
When Saturn hits that Pluto, I will be watching.

Bobbypins, welcome!

Pallas18, Wow!! Oh my gosh! :-D))))

Well here is a nice collection of articles.

The Armageddon Nominee
by Jim Lobe, TomPaine.com
     John Bolton's appointment to the United Nations marks a huge victory for right-wing hawks.
http://www.tompaine.com/articles/the_armageddon_nominee.php

Women Of The World v. Bush
by Mary-Ann Stephenson, The Guardian
     Under George W. Bush, America is waging a global battle to turn back the clock on women's rights.
http://www.tompaine.com/opinion/#004014

Bankruptcy: The New Women's Issue
by Elizabeth Warren, Demos
     The Harvard professor on how women will suffer most if Congress passes the bankruptcy bill.
http://www.tompaine.com/opinion/#004009

Wahhabi White House
by William Thatcher Dowell, Los Angeles Times
      Bush could learn some lessons from the Saudis about the drawbacks of coddling the fundamentalist right.
http://www.tompaine.com/opinion/#004007

Before I go to dinner, I wanted to post this link to the DU thread talking about Theresa Heinz Kerry's comments that Pallas mentioned. I hope y'all don't mind. :-)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x339518

Cap'n Sally,

On Saturday March 19th folks all across the country and the planet will be protesting the war in Iraq. tMercury goes Rx that day, in Aries, the tMoon will be in Cancer, moving to conj tSaturn sometime that day...

Any comments on that day and the marches?

Jonathan,

Thanks for posting Teresa's comments... thanks Pallas for telling us about it... and Lou Dobbs reporting on it... Wow is right, Pat C.

"Bobbypins"! Welcome... I bet very few folks even know what those are! :-)

WV's post upthread at 9:58... makes me cry... makes me angry... makes me sad... makes me wonder. There are lots of stories online like this. Where is all the anger and rage and hate coming from? These are our children. These are Americans. They are not even fighting in a conventional war... Iraq is not fighting them (sure some folks are resisting and there are some "insurgents") they don't have an air force or any army... our troops are not subjected to bombings...

I don't understand any of this. Perhaps Saturn--- karma is coming for more than this administration. Surely as a people, as a collective, there is a great deal of karma... and surely each and every day our military and those at home who scream "nuke 'em" are bringing karma to themselves.

Someone recently said one can judge a country by its drivers and their cars... for a few weeks I will be driving my grands to and from school --- three different ones! through the rolling hills of North Carolina. This a.m., an SUV passed me - I was doing 60 in a 55 mph zone, the driver passed on a farm-to-market road, with no shoulder, on a curve with a solid double yellow line going uphill... he cut so closely in front of me that I could hear the air hissing between the cars! I mention this because it is not a rare incident... it is more the norm. Something is very wrong with our country... very wrong.

Jo, and all, 14 Democratic Senators just voted FOR the horrible bankrupsy bill....the great payback to MBNA.

Speechless.

US shrugs at pro-Syria rally in Beirut

The White House shrugged off a mass pro-Syria rally in Beirut led by the powerful Shiite movement Hezbollah and insisted Damascus must end its presence in Lebanon "as quickly as possible." "Syria needs to get out of Lebanon. Syria needs to withdraw completely and as quickly as possible," spokesman Scott McClellan told reporters. In the past, Washington has said Damascus must withdraw its roughly 14,000 troops and its intelligence presence from Lebanon "immediately."

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20050308/pl_afp/lebanonsyriademous_050308153921

Y'all, this is what we have to contend with... these fascists really do create their own reality (problem is they create ours also!)...

Half a million people show support for Syria and * pays NO ATTENTION...

Remember that when March 19th rolls around and another couple of million turn out across the planet... * will tell us it is a momentary aberration. (He knows about such things from his drinking and snorting days...)

We will endure this fascist regime for as long as it takes for us to get a tummy full... and by then we will have to wait for the rest of the world to take care of it economically or...

Pat C,

You may want to check out Democratic Underground on that bankruptcy bill. They have a very interesting thread on it.

I think the economic dire straits we are in is information being withheld from the public. I am beginning to think that everything going on now is an attempt to save this country from bankruptcy. There is nothing to do at this point but watch where the cards fall.

It seems that the only road out is to raise taxes, which will require a Democratic administration, unless the Republicans will risk all and smear the egg on their faces.

Jonathan, I'll take a look.

Jo, is there a time on the 19th? Someone said Noon in Washington and California, I would really like the Washington date.

Momma Said is one of my favorite songs. I remember when I was 12 years old visiting my uncle in an integrated neighborhood in Philly. The next door neighbor, a young black gentleman came over, played the song, and danced around the living room. I was entranced. I've been singing and dancing to it ever since.

I hope that list of people whose come-uppance is due includes Negroponte, Kissinger, et al. (the El Savadore death squads).

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/08/international/americas/08salvador.html

I always thought Kerry was up to something. He is a brilliant man and strategist. He never lost a case as a Massachusetts prosecutor. I think there was more to it than meets the eye concerning his recent Middle Eastern trip. And having Teresa come out with this statement is definitely part of the strategy.

Sally,

I have looked everywhere and can't find the actual time of day for the March in DC... here is one website... apparently Fayetteville, NC is the regional hookup for going to DC... I'll keep looking!

Wear and Distribute White Ribbons to Honor All Who Have Died in Iraq
Ending the war requires many steps, both large and small. To make the growing death toll in Iraq more visible throughout the United States, and to provide an easy way for people to express their antiwar sentiment, United for Peace and Justice is launching a White Ribbon Campaign to Oppose the War in Iraq. We are encouraging concerned individuals and member groups of UFPJ to wear, display, and distribute white ribbons as a symbol of our grief for all those killed in our Iraq and our desire for the war to end. White is the symbol for peace in many countries around the world and the symbol of mourning in others

http://www.unitedforpeace.org/

Hi all, and this link is for Jo, Travieso, M, et. al--might not be real but oh Gods can we hope? Here's hoping Saturn "brings it on" and thie neocon nightmare is over soon....I miss y'all & I haven't posted lately but I do read here everyday...so take this link with the proverbial grain of salt (or tinfoil hat, as needed).....
http://www.rense.com/general63/hms.htm

truth and namaste all....

Heads up!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3241028

"Have any of you heard of the Codex Alimentarius?

My secretary, an incredibly well-informed progressive and advocate of holistic medicine, made a comment today about the Codex Alimentarius and what it will do to our ability to get supplements, vitamins, etc. I had never heard of this, but my brief view of the sites she directed me to seem to say that this SUMMER it may become difficult if not impossible to buy items commonly used in holistic medicine. Am I that out of the loop? This seems huge to me and I'm trying to educate myself.

A couple of the sites she directed me to:

http://ahha.org/codex.htm

www.alliance-natural-health.org "

http://www.alliance-natural-health.org

Sally,

I believe you can use Noon on the 19th for the time... spoke with young man in NYC and they are holding several rallies in the a.m. and different groups are converging at Central Park at Noon... group from Fayetteville NC shows same, with Noon being time for rally in DC...

here's another site http://www.troopsoutnow.org/

bhakti,
Are you going to the March in NYC?

Pat C.,

Here is website, which states it is only official website

"The Codex Alimentarius Commission was created in 1963 by FAO and WHO to develop food standards, guidelines and related texts such as codes of practice under the Joint FAO/WHO Food Standards Programme. The main purposes of this Programme are protecting health of the consumers and ensuring fair trade practices in the food trade, and promoting coordination of all food standards work undertaken by international governmental and non-governmental organizations.

Warning: This is the only official website of the Codex Alimentarius Commission. Unofficial websites using similar domain names (URLs) exist. The information contained in unofficial websites is not guaranteed by the Codex Alimentarius Commission nor by FAO or WHO and in no way commits the Commission, FAO or WHO."

http://www.codexalimentarius.net/web/index_en.jsp

Holy Bat Cape! the Rense article, if true, will make Monica look like a virgin again!

JM,

The Asian and European newspapers have been reporting for months now that * admin needs to show good faith in getting a handle on the deficit. They surely did the opposite when they made the tax cuts permanent. After the election, * went after Social Security, thinking it would be a slam dunk... well, d'ouh! Surprise, Surprise as Gomer Pyle would say. And here comes Greenspan saying he can't keep the dam from bursting, interest rates have to go up, and what, what's that you say... we need to increase taxes! Wash out your mouth. So, between giving his friends money and other power breaks and showing the rest of the world he can pay down the deficit, he's doing some of his Poppy's "voodoo economics" --- now comes word at dKos that the farmers are next... there goes the cotton subsidies (well, the textile mills here in the South are gone already... only sugar teats we have left are the nuk-u-lar plants!) Of 'course these fascists are not trying to save our economic hides, they're the ones destroying it...

Seems there will be some screaming in the GOP campsites tonight and for nights to come, as word comes that * is sticking it to the farmers.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/3/8/19170/76985

Good Morning, Americaaaaaa! Time to wake from your dream. * is just what those libruls said he is...

The Teresa Hinez Kerry interview in the Seattle paper just reminds me of how much I like her....I am certainly just as suspicious as she is!

I was sitting here contemplating my current malaise and read the supplements post....while reaching for my box of homeopathic medicine. (which I CAN afford). I am suffering from a massive allergy attack from moving into a new area, I finally figued out...and WHAT if I couldn't BUY my homeopathic stuff? I sent those links to my flower essences friend for some comment...

And another thing...last night a friend of mine who has a developementally disabled son told me that yet again another 'specialist' has refused to see him, despite his having been referred by a friend of the specialist....because he is a Medical patient AND developementally disabled. And the same day this happened, the right wing writer Jill Stewart (Pat C. and WV, you know who I am talking about? She now runs in the SFChronicle along side the very nasty rightie, Deborah Saunders) wrote a column saying that the poor RICH taxpayers should be OUTRAGED because the State of CA pays over 11 thousand dollars a year for EACH developementally disabled person in CA....and that the taxpayers are FRIGGIN' VICTIMS!!!!!

Honest to bejeebers, these people are disgusting.

Mt St. Helens spitting out 25,000 foot high
cloud of ash and smoke after 2. quake today....

Re: Just My Bill

it occurs to me he is cozying up to them so that he can get either World Bank position or UN position...and Hill might be helping...I guess they're making him earn it...using him to the utmost.

But Hillary is really screwing herself with democrats.
Olberman questioned: Hillary the Republican?

Maybe she's playing possum. I'm hoping she's playing nice-nice to get into the WH. And then
will un-do the damage....but I'm beginning to wonder if I'm fantasizing.

The dollar's drop after the jobs report was ``really disappointing,'' said BNP's Lynch. ``That reinforced what has already been some bearish dollar sentiment in the market.'' Lynch forecasts the dollar will weaken to $1.34 per euro by June 30.

Dollar declines today below $1.3280 per euro may pave the way for a further drop to $1.3385, said Andreas Mann, senior currency trader in New York at Commerzbank Securities, a unit of Germany's fourth-biggest bank. ``Technically it looks bad for the dollar,'' said Mann.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000087&sid=aSg3PWqmJwoU&refer=top_world_news

Rense has the supplements story:
http://www.newswithviews.com/Howenstine/james24.htm

Sally,
Just a delight to read your latest article ~

Just catching up ~ Maybe Gannongate will grow some legs ~ one can only hope ~Who knows about the information on the site I am posting ~ But it certainly has some interesting info ~ If true

Why is Bush so Hostile to the Idea of Gay Marriage?

Perhaps, because until 1987, George W. Bush was gay. According to a group of 29 Yale classmates who comprise Gay Ivy Leaguers for Truth, Bush was "known to be at least sexually experimental throughout his time in college." One of Bush's alleged former boyfriends, Anthony Berusca (class of '70), told The Dallas Morning News that Bush was "deeply conflicted about being gay, even somewhat self-hating." Berusca is convinced that this conflict led to Bush's drinking problems, but describes the President as a "gentle, caring lover". In 1986, the Bush family arranged for George to join Worthy Creations, a church group in El Paso that focuses on converting homosexuals through faith. A year later, Bush claimed to be straight, born again, and engaged to Laura Welch.

And it continues ~ on and on and on

http://mindprod.com/bush.html#GAY

On the subject of oil....see what it brings in a series of astounding pictures from Dubai, starring Tiger Woods http://sonnym.com/tiger.htm

What happens to Dubai when the oil runs out....

Jo....this administration is totally committed to the 'weak' dollar agenda....looks like it is still working.

Read the whole supplements column on Rense....then was very shocked that it turned into a Christian anti Mason diatribe....

Great stuff about Gannon and his clientele. I wanna see fundie Xtian heads explode when they find out about Gannon's "drill sergeant" dominatrix act and his clientele at the top echelons of the Bush regime.

And Judi, until recently I worked at a paper where the odious Jill Stewart wrote. The editor there (a covert GOP plant named Tom Walsh) hired her as the weekly's sole political columnist. Her entire shtick was "I'm a Democrat, but I'm really pissed at my party, so [insert this week's Republican talking points here]." What a whore.

Great article Capt Sally; so like being given a light and map to get us through the fog.
How about this John Bolton character, another signer of the PNAC, is now our ambassador to the UN! Have you looked at his chart yet? [November 20, 1948, Baltimore Maryland.] I don't suppose his could be as bad as Negroponte's; but have you seen his picture, he gives me the willies too.
http://www.answers.com/topic/john-r-bolton

Here's another source on herbals...

http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/PHARMACEUTICAL_BUSINESS/health_movement_against_codex/health_movement02.htm

Oh Oh Sally, I ran Bolton's chart on Astrodiest and what jumped out at me is his Sun conj Chiron in Scorpio; (28) that bird has sharp claws and likes to wound others! Also it tickled me to see his Mars at 25 Sag where it must be getting hit by Pluto. [Actually working in the UN should be good for his outlook on life. Can they "kill him with kindness"?] It's an amazing looking "bowl" chart if you give him a 6:30 a.m. birthtime. Is there any way to get his real birthtime?

Sorry folks. Was once a big fan of Bill and Hillary but as time goes on realize that despite their rhetoric, they go whichever way the wind blows.

Fourteen dems voted for the bankruptcy bill - well forget them!! I'm starting a new one - the Free Thinkers Party. Anyone else care to join....

I have mentioned this here before but my intuitive reader friend told me last year that the Democrats/Blues will prevail if we walk in truth (Reid, Boxer, Dean),and that a big scandal will be bringing * and his cohorts down. She thought it would involve voting fraud but, whatever it is, it will be very, very, very embarrassing.

Gannongate? Cannot wait! I wake up everyday hoping this is the day!

I love the last paragraph by the Russian journalist on the Rense site regarding the forthcoming Gannongate expose:

"Our reporter advises us that both Russian and English language editions of this book will be printed and this promises to be the important study of the true and inner workings of the leadership of the American government!"

I have mentioned this here before but my intuitive reader friend told me last year that the Democrats/Blues will prevail if we walk in truth (Reid, Boxer, Dean),and that a big scandal will be bringing * and his cohorts down. She thought it would involve voting fraud but, whatever it is, it will be very, very, very embarrassing.

Gannongate? Cannot wait! I wake up everyday hoping this is the day!

I love the last paragraph by the Russian journalist on the Rense site regarding the forthcoming Gannongate expose:

"Our reporter advises us that both Russian and English language editions of this book will be printed and this promises to be the important study of the true and inner workings of the leadership of the American government!"

Robert A....Wow...thanks for that feedback on Jill Stewart! So much for any lip service to the SF Chronicle being too liberal! Thanks for posting this, and I sure hope you post more often! Welcome to the mix! All of them a bunch of whores. Come to think of it....that is all the USA seems to stand for these days...whoring.

Sharon, it's gonna have to be proof of vote fraud. I just visited Joshua Micah Marshall's site where bringing the Social Security "[non]issue" to the voters is raised. Voters would reject the Smirky proposal overwhelmingly, I'm sure. But that won't matter if we have to vote on those #*$#(&*# machines. And the best way to get rid of the machines is to document that they create results that are desired by the powers-that-be rather rather than accurately counting the votes cast by the electorate.

I think the pallid and obviously kinky slime of Dick Morris still clings to the Clintons. However, I do think both of them by nature are more conservative than almost anyone on
THIS board....hahahahahahah

Bobbypins, I fear I agree with you on the Clintons, there is something wrong there. I know Bill is a champion for the NWO (the third way) I'm just not sure that any party in this "democracy" is to be trusted at all, they for sure are not for the people. I agree with Jo, "Good Morning Americaaaaaa." By the way Jo, I took a look at that chart for the 19th. Moon conj. Saturn in the 1st house, is restriction for the people, but eye opening with Uranus in the 9th squaring America's natal Uranus, at least I hope "eye-opening" and not violence. The Sun at 29 pisces conjoined the Iraq War chart Sun. sextile Mars at 29 Capricorn and Venus in an applying Conj. to the Sun and sextile to Mars. Neptune in the 8th (gassing or spray that's harmful to the protesters) The Moon conjunct Saturn could also mean that not that many people show up. It is a powerful Mercury because it's stationary retrograde and retro Jupiter is going to go back to oppose it and square the Asc. Mars and Chiron in the 7th will certainly show the protesters to be open enemies of this war. Lots of emotion with five planets in water signs and one of the (Sun) at a critical degree.

There is a "dryness" around this chart, the interception of Aries in the 10th (ruled my Mars) there is a dryness and a wounding, but I don't think the violent type of wounding, something that can't get started right. The passion will be there, the need to be heard, the sincerity but something doesn't jell. Hope I am wrong.

And it just occurred to me that the intuitive (Serena) I worked with smoothing out my tangled mess of energy chords (took her almost 3 years) told me 1) all the energy coming into earth now is neutral; 2) I wasn't going to like ANYTHING politically coming down the pike.

So for all of us, remember all the energy IS neutral....we can create with it, but NO ONE ENERGY OR ENTITY IS ON 'OUR' SIDE. ( God doesn't CHOOSE SIDES either....if indeed, God has time for our problems at all)
But WE can choose how to use the energies.

We are in a major warping of our liberal (catch all for 'our side') brains....we must create a new energy form/dynamic, and I think THAT dawning relevlation is going to be exciting. But first, as Serena said, we have to SEE reality. Yuk.

It pushes SO many buttons to view B***world....but it will also make some great stuff to be written in the future. Bush Sr. emerging as the
real Emperor....who the hell is JR?

Just tried posting this, but it didn't seem to get through. If it did and this is a dupe, pls accept yrs truly's apologies, etc.
FYI. Good stuff here and excellent to use when trying to educate others about the mess we are in:

http://jec.senate.gov/democrats/ber.htm

Starrynights, your dates are off a little on the * marriage. They were married Nov. 5, 1977 in Midland Texas at 11:00am

Sally,

I also felt the Saturn placement would mean not many would show up for the protest.

On second thought it could also be that they would be severely restricted.

This is sad to admit, but if B* is found out to be Gay, and knowing the way these fundies are, I could see allot of violence against gays and lesbians. The last thing that the Christian Right like to do is look at where they went wrong. For them, Satan, who causes all their problems, isn't in them, but someone or something outside themselves.

I can easily see the anger at Bush turning into hatred and violence against us. It's much like the Holocaust and the "Rich Jew" propaganda in 1930's Germany. While for most a European history, Jews could not own land (i.e. agriculture), they benefitted from the up and coming merchantile (and later capitalist) economies in European cities. This wa s the Rothchilds who made a fortune in banking and brokerage. Gays have been marginalized to college towns, the three coasts (I put Austin, Texas in here as well), and progressive industries (like technologies) where their sexuality are not an issue. And now that Gays and Lesbians are succeeding and making inroads despite the discrimination, allot of straight America even get more pissed and bigoted. This is why gay marriage is so hated by the fundies. They cannot live another day seeing gays succeeding.

Hello all! I'm from DU and have been lurking about here lately. I've always had an interest in astrology, and I enjoy reading Nancy's and Pallas' interpretations over at DU, so I guess it was only a matter of time before I followed one of the links back to here. This is truly an excellent site! Twenty minutes of reading through one of these threads gives me a better understanding of what is really going on with the world than all the time I've ever spent taking in the mind-numbing corporate drivel of CNN (post-Turner) and MSNBC.

judi gemini, I think you may be onto something about "Poppy" George H. W. Bush being the real "Emperor" behind his son and the mass disorder in the world that he is stirring up. I've long suspected that G.H.W.B. has never really been what he appears. There's just something about him and his act that seems particularly phony to me, like there is something much more dark and vile lying just beneath the surface. But on the surface, he always seemed to have that elitist, neo-aristocratic chip-on-his-shoulder attitude, like he was expecting everyone to bow down before him and kiss his ring. Maybe Dimson has been his revenge upon the world for some real or imagined slight against him and his beloved family name? (Clinton in 1992?)

The truth is probably far more complex, but maybe not too much of a stretch:
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Books___Reviews/Dowbenko060401/dowbenko060401.html

Plumes rising from Mt. St. Helen's up to 25,000 feet in the sky.

Although I know many of you would love to have something juicy about dimson being gay - astrologically I think there is a very slim chance of it.

Although he does have Aquarius on the 8th cusp of sex...that can very often be a person who is asexual instead of sexual. Or into unusual sex..
he has natal Mars in a verrry wide square to Uranus in the 11th...so he probably likes rough sex -weird sex - swinging from a chandelier or monkey bars type stuff...but I dont see a Mars/Venus indication that usually accompanies gay sex or a Mars/Neptune contact.

Yeah, there's something wrong with him sexually -
but I don't see it as gay.

Although he may have many friends who are gay, and
I will tell you this: he benefits through gay people. Uranus/North Node trine Jupiter in the third house.

Think about how he talked up against gay marriage, and created fears about gay people....helped him win the election didn't it.

In actuality, with that Mars in wide square to Uranus - this guy has a problem about sexuality - anger -likely somewhat homophobic and he's likely a nasty angry person to be in bed with - wham bam -= hurry up.

One other thing. Mars which rules male sexuality, also rules his MC, his status in the world for all to see. If he was gay, with Mars ruling his 10th house cusp....he'd be a flaming gay person and WE"D ALL KNOW IT. It wouldn't be something he could hide.

I'll tell you what he is hiding. Capricorn is on his sixth house of military service, and its ruler
Saturn is in the 12th of secrets.

Dan Rather was right. They're all right about his military service...errrr ... I mean lack of it.

Travieso,

I think there would at first -- and very unfortunately -- be some violence against gays and lesbians by the "Christian" Right, were Bush himself revealed to be gay. That's the big "denial phase" that many of the Right Wing "Christian" Fundamentalists will go through.

I do think, however, that a great number of these people will have a crisis of faith and begin to question their beliefs, especially when they've had it drummed into their heads by their pastors and the like so often that Homosexual = Evil. So therefore, Bush = Homosexual = Evil?? Bush, the crusader of justice? Bush, the cowboy who makes terrorists cower? Bush, America's first true Christian Fundamentalist President??? (Actually, Jimmy Carter was the first Christian Fundamentalist to become President, but he's obviously nothing like the crazie we have in office now.) If it ever comes out that Bush is actually gay, the Right Wing Christian faction is going to be feeling very, very sick.

A few people have suggested that there might be some sort of mass "falling away" from the Church before the end of this decade, perhaps before Pluto leaves Sagittarius for good. I think Michael Lutein wrote about this. (Pallas, do you remember?)

Thank you,Sally, for yet another wonderful article - much to hope for and anticipate as spring approaches and I hope that as the spring flowers break through the ground and bloom in all their glory that some of these current news events like unopened buds burst forth into bloom and let us see their true colors in the light of day. Coming home tonight I found my children cooking dinner while the television droned on in the background - MSNBC Nightly News was on with Brian Williams and he was doing a lead-in to Andrea Mitchell who was doing a report on how Bush has won over the hearts of Americans with his bringing democracy to the Middle East and to the World. she then almost wet her pants while announcing how "Bush's doubters were rethinking their stance against him" and how "his harshest critics have been forced to consider the he may be right after all" .. just as my jaw was dropping to the floor (and I almost dropped the groceries I was carrying) there was Brian Williams announcing that "This Presidency may be the one that sets the standard for all others to follow". I was so mad I just about slammed the television off and went out to walk the dog around the block .. twice! If this is a sample of Bush under a Saturn return ... I'd like to know what a "good time" is for him .. seems he can do nothing wrong! Our local press here jumped right on this report and ran with it all evening as well. How can anything ever change if the public is constantly sold this bill of goods and when will we see some of these "leaders" being held responsible for the wrongs they have done??? Will we ever see them take a fall???

Hi Buckeye...

No I don't remember Lutin writing about it...but
it does makes sense.

If you read the para above yours, I dont think
dimbot is gay btw. Just a rumor, and I guess the
thuglicans deserve the same kind of dirt and innuendo they have been putting out to defeat others.

It's kind of funny. Whoever started the nasty rumor, he can't come out and say, No I'm not gay, like Nixon said, "I'm not a crook".

heheeheh. can you imagine that press conference.
"I'm not gay". hehehhehe.

however the rumor seems to be making the rounds of the internet...and if it catches it will damage him.

Would the fundies believe it? I doubt that.
_______

Speaking of the Church - what's with the Cardinals trying to get rid of this Pope...first they tried to push him into retirement...now it's that he's sick and he may give up popehood....and as far as I can see, he has no intention of giving up - why should he? It's pope for life.

Why are they trying to get rid of him?

"with that Mars in wide square to Uranus - this guy has a problem about sexuality - anger -likely somewhat homophobic and he's likely a nasty angry person to be in bed with"

Pallas! This was great. It shows astrologically what I've absolutely "known" clairvoyantly, and was stating a few threads back...Laura experiences "mean sex."

Maybe you can help me with this astrological question? I'm just as convinced that bush molested Jenna. Not Barbara [or maybe he molested her when she was VERY young but then stopped, though continued molesting Jenna throughout her childhood]. Do you have access to his daughters' birth data? Do you see any "evidence" of this, astrologically in the three of their charts?

Thanks!
vcz

I just had to laugh. 89 comments here in one day. Another site which usually has about 30 -60, had 121. So I looked in my ephemeris, and, of course... Mercury just went into Aries!

Elora,

Before your jaw hits the ground again or you drag your pooch around the block one more time, please remember that Andrea Mitchell is married to Alan Greenspan (or maybe they've been dating a long, long time) and that Brian Williams is the GOP's new go-to guy in the Corporate Media. In fact, there was an article recently (forgive me, but I can't remember where) where Brian Williams said he was a long-standing Republican and greatly enjoyed the reporting on FOX "news".

Perhaps you should write your local Editor and inform them of Mr. William's political leanings and obvious bias in his "news" reporting? And then question them as to the continued strength of America if, in fact, BelzeeBush's pResidency is the one to set the standards for all others. A horrible economy, a falling dollar, a war with thousands of innocents killed, our school children some of the most uneducated on the planet? Are these the earmarks of a strong pResident?

Might help you to feel better to be more proactive. :-)

Welcome NeoBuckeye!
I am a DU (Astro Forum) lurker and have enjoyed your postings too.

Welcome to all the new people who pop on and off AW and fellow lurkers.
AW is still my favorite site after all these years.

Jo, I have no plans to march on the 19th. That can change but I'm not hearing any buzz about it....yet. Where's the build up? Not hearing about it. Anyone else in the NYC area hearing anything? I actually sent an email round to a load of people to hear our favorite Brooklyn band in Manhattan that evening. No one is talking about the protest so maybe the chart is correct. Hope not.

http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=416&row=0

I'D RATHER NOT SAY GOOD-BYE, DAN

snip...

“It’s an obscene comparison," Rather said, "but there was a time in South Africa when people would put flaming tires around people’s necks if they dissented. In some ways, the fear is that you will be neck-laced here, you will have a flaming tire of lack of patriotism put around your neck."

Talking to another reporter, Dan told it straight about the careerism that keeps US reporters in line. “It’s that fear that keeps [American] journalists from asking the toughest of the tough questions and to continue to bore-in on the tough questions so often.”

Silence as patriotism. He admitted, “One finds oneself saying, ‘I know the right question, but you know what, this is not exactly the right time to ask it." It was making him ill and he was ready to say, basta, enough. Suddenly, there was fire in those eyes.

"It's extremely dangerous and cannot and should not be accepted and I'm sorry to say that, up to and including this moment of this interview, that overwhelmingly it has been accepted by the American people. And the current Administration revels in that, they relish and take refuge in that."

Of course, Dan said all these things to a British audience. But back in the USA, Dan had promised America he would be a good boy, a trained press puppy who would poop on the paper set down for him. He told his US audience, "George Bush is the President. He makes the decisions. He wants me to line up, just tell me where."

More...

bhakti,

I called a NY number last night trying to get a time for the chart Sally did... most of the organization is coming from Peace & Justice Center and emphasis on Troops Out... there are some rallies planned... ck the links I gave Sally upthread...

Namaste

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/03/09/iraq.main/index.html
Violence flared anew in Iraq on Wednesday, with attacks in Baghdad killing three while 26 people were found shot to death near the western city of Qaim.

http://tinyurl.com/5vbvt
Battle brewing over confirmation of Bush UN pick. You know, the guy who hates the UN but is really going to mend fences with the world at the same time.

vcr:

I think if anyone molested Jenna it was Bush,Sr. There are allegations that he is a pedophile. Geeze what lovely family!

Patricia

http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00001243.htm

CLINT CURTIS INVESTIGATOR'S 'SUICIDE' CASE REOPENED BY GEORGIA POLICE!

"The case of the mysterious suicide of Raymond Lemme of the Florida Inspector General's office was reopened by Valdosta, Georgia police last December shortly after we broke the story of computer programmer Clint Curtis' sworn affidavit charging that he had built a "vote-rigging software prototype" at the request of Rep. Tom Feeney (R-FL)!

Furthermore, graphic and disturbing photos from the crime scene -- said in the original police report to have not existed due to a failure in the camera's "flash memory cards" -- have recently been published on the web!

Those crime scene photos, which clearly do exist, can be viewed here. WARNING: THE PAGE LINKED ABOVE INCLUDES GRAPHIC MATERIAL!

A spokesman from the Valdosta Police Department has confirmed the legitimacy of the photos but has so far failed to explain several inconsistencies that the photos and materials from the supplementary detective reports reveal when compared to the original police report.

Supplementary evidence from the reports would seem to indicate that Lemme was not even in Valdosta, Georgia at the time that the motel receipts show that he had checked-in to the room where he was eventually found dead.

Furthermore, involvement from the Florida Dept. of Transportation (FDOT) may have lead to the quick re-closing of the case shortly after it was recently re-opened!

Lemme was the first official from the FL Inspector General's office to investigate the charges originally made by Curtis' 2001 whistleblower complaint at the FDOT, where he had gone to work after leaving Yang Enterprises, Inc. (YEI) in the wake several disturbing meetings at the software firm with Feeney and YEI's CEO, Mrs. Li-Woan Yang.

In Curtis' 2001 complaint to the IG's office, filed along with another FDOT whistleblower, he charged that an illegal Chinese alien was working at and committing espionage out of YEI and that YEI was illegally over-billing FDOT in a multi-million dollar contract. That contract, Curtis charges, was received with assistance from Feeney, who was, at the time of Curtis' original complaint, the Florida Speaker of the House as well as legal counsel and a registered lobbyist for YEI. Feeney had previously been Jeb Bush's running-mate in his original failed bid for Florida governor in 1994. Feeney now sits on the U.S. House Judiciary Committee representing Florida's 24th Congressional district.

The Chinese spy reported by Curtis was eventually indicted and pled guilty to espionage charges (see this previous BRAD BLOG report for more details). For their part, YEI was recently found -- in the IG's final report begun by Lemme in 2001 and finally released in February 2005 -- to have billed FDOT for more than $300,000 in "questionable charges" (see this recent BRAD BLOG report for more info on that)...(more)

I just don't understand how the entire MSM can perform the way they are in the circumstances the world exists today. It is beyond belief for a rational mind.

http://www.daykeeperjournal.com/feature2.shtml

Fear and Killing in Haiti

snip...

Haiti is a nightmare.

Congresswoman Maxine Waters (Los Angeles) wrote a letter to Secretary of State Powell (who engineered the coup d’etat), which included:

"History will record that this crisis is a direct result of the failed policies of the United States, France, and Canada which worked with the Group of 184, the former members of the Haitian Army and known thugs to carry out last February’s coup d’etat. While I am certain that you would be the last to agree, I believe that the only way to stabilize Haiti is to do so with the return of President Jean-Bertrand Aristide, the democratically-elected President of Haiti, until the end of his term in office, with a restoration of assistance for the rebuilding of Haiti’s infrastructure and, at the end of his term, assistance for free and fair elections."

Right now "state" violence has been greatly stepped up, in anticipation of demonstrations demanding Aristide’s return at this one-year anniversary of his kidnapping. Yes, people are afraid, and with good reason. They tend to stay in their houses, and much of the country’s life has come to a standstill. However, these descendants of slaves who rebelled and created their own nation in 1804 are truly indomitable.

The Haitian chart is set for January 1, 1804, 12:00 p.m. It is a very strong Capricorn, and Capricorn has a hard path, climbing the mountain, but it never gives up.

This last year has been a real test for Haitians. And for all of us, it is an example of the chaos which can accompany Uranus in Pisces. Uranus has been transiting Haiti’s Pluto during this time, and is just now completing this transit. Uranus is the wake-up call. Haitians have been awakening, in a new way, to the dark and repressive forces which have been part of Haiti’s history.

Neptune has just finished transiting Haiti’s North Node in Aquarius. This is likely to have enhanced the sense of solidarity of the majority of the people, as they have been undergoing this attempted coercion through violence.

More...

Re: peace demos March 19,
Sorry not to post a link.....last weekI passed it on to a friend who is going, , then erased the e-mail.
The activity will be centered at Ft. Bragg N C. Peace & Justice, Veterns for Peace, ( & the newly formed Iraq Vets for Peace) Gold Star Mothers, are all gathering there to demonstrate. Last night I tried to access A.N.S.W.E.R. and the site bookmarked ( since Oct 2002) was gone????????
Pat C,
Yes I stated what I needed from the higher power, & got results! My son has been hired by the local sardine packing plant just purchased by Bumblebee Tuna, ( A Blue Co I think!) and starts work today.
My Librarian Friend, & the Town Manager arranged for me to work 20 hours per week, for the Senior Community Service Employment Program. The program pays the salary NOT the Town, I will be helping in the Library, and we plan to improve the Children's room, with a story reading, brighter decor etc......................... It's not a commission to illustrate a Children's Book, but closely allied!!!

I want to remind you all...................... while sorting & filing reference material in my studio,I found a USA Today dated Oct 19 2001. I had forgotten those who recieved anthrax letters; aid to Dan Rather, CBS, aid to Tom Brockaw NBC,
7 month old baby of ABC Producer, Tom Dashle, and The American Way paper ( The Sun) in Bocca Raton Fla. ( didn't they do the story about the B*** twins indisgressions?) They hit the big three & bought PBS.!!
I purchased a Sun, dated January 31 2005, because the cover story headlines were................................ Stolen Govt. files reveal........Antichrist *WILL RUN* FOR PRESIDENT;
not IS President! They are setting the stage for the 2008 run NOW!
The cover has a flag & God Bless America promenently displayed. I guess they GOT THE MESSAGE loud & clear!
( their photo editor died from Anthrax!)
Speculation about these events have been lost in the "Fog of War"!!!!!
Pat QOP

Pat QOP, that's wonderful! Continue to do this with the knowing that you are loved and supported.

Sally,

Thanks so much for looking at the chart for the 19th... perhaps the Saturn conj Moon will give reserve to all the energy of the other planets and the protest will be orderly. There is talk of a number of military families going to Wash DC to protest... the link I posted upthread is for the meetup in Fayetteville, near Ft. Bragg, NC... I know that the Brits are going to turn out in huge numbers --- they are angry with Phony Tony, and he is in trouble for the May elections... Soc Dems are going to doing exceptionally well, imo.

http://www.stopwar.org.uk/ Their march is set for Noon London time.

March has been very energized for me personally for at least a decade now --- lots of family stuff in March... I marked my calendar earlier for the 19-21, with the reading Maya gives concerning the shifting of energy --- 3 planets and Ceres stationing... On the 19th when tMerc goes Rx Saturn and Ceres will be in 'station' --- as will tPluto (I believe, may be wrong there, somebody check my Pluto station)

Anyway, for lots of reasons, March 19th is HIGH LIGHTED on my calendar...

Let's all remember to send lots of light and prayers to these folks on the 19th...

And thanks again, Sally, for looking at the chart for the March, and for all you do. BTW, you may not call your article an "article", but I do... Namaste

Jo, are you going?

This is from the LA Times.
http://tinyurl.com/4bdd2

Dear Maris:

Mars square Uranus... sexual indicator? I didn't know that. But I'm a Gemini, a student, right? I know the square can indicate accident prone, right? we know how many times * has fallen on his face literally since he was selected!

I always watch the tMars square tUranus myself --- don't like to travel during that time... not that I have the square in my chart, I don't, but others on the road do, and I don't want to get in their way! I do however, watch my activities with machinery, tools... like the lawn mower - I won't cut the grass during a square transit... Uranus rules my chart, so I keep a constant vigilence for accidents...

Mars square Uranus - sexual connatation? In *'s natal chart, the one indicator that jumps out at me is his Mars in Virgo, which is usually discreetly delineated as 'priest-like'... "Men with this placement are often so busy repressing their emotions that they may not be very insightful about a woman's wants - or their own." I think assessing one's sexual preference and such is about as difficult as assessing their vocation. But it could also indicate someone who is very discreet about their sexual activities, and careful... probably practice safe sex.

I feel the same about *'s sexual activities as I did about Bill Clinton's... I don't care what goes on in their bedroom or the Oval Office sexually... What I care about is how they carry out the duties of the office of President. Of course with *, we have hypocrisy - and incitement to hate and bash Gays. That I do care about.

Morgana, I found something for you (or anyone else interested). You were asking if John Bolton was S & B; here is a webpage with a link that you can put anyone's name in & it will tell you their affiliations (I tried to post just the link but it wouldn't work, scroll down to where it says this"A Scripted Tool For the Lazy Researcher" ): http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Commentary/Elite.htm

example:



John Bolton
AKA John R Bolton

Born: 20-Nov-1948
Birthplace: Baltimore, MD

Gender: Male
Religion: Lutheran
Ethnicity: White
Sexual orientation: Straight
Occupation: Government, Attorney

Level of fame: Niche
Executive summary: Under Secretary of State

Known as Donald Rumsfeld's man in the State Department, mustachioed John Bolton served as an assistant attorney general during the Reagan administration and assistant secretary of state under George H.W. Bush. Later, he wound up working as a staff lawyer for the GOP. During the 2000 Presidential election quagmire in Florida, Bush campaign strategist James Baker dispatched Bolton to Palm Beach to halt the recount, which he did.

Bush tapped Bolton for Under Secretary of State, reporting to Colin Powell. Before Bolton's confirmation hearings, Jesse Helms declared in January 2001: "John Bolton is the kind of man with whom I would want to stand at Armageddon, if it should be my lot to be on hand for what is forecast to be the final battle between good and evil in this world." The Senate confirmed him for the post, despite inconsistencies between views expressed in his testimony and some of his published essays.

Unusual for a diplomat, Bolton is perfectly comfortable playing the Bad Cop role. In May 2002, he accused Fidel Castro of having a clandestine biowarfare program, even though his claim was immediately contradicted by American intelligence agencies. In July 2003, he called Kim Jong Il a "tyrannical rogue state leader" (which is true, of course).

Wife: Gretchen Smith (aka Gretchen Brainerd)
Daughter: Jennifer Sarah

University: BA, Yale University (1970)
Law School: JD, Yale University (1974)

American Enterprise Institute Senior Vice President for public policy research
Council on Foreign Relations
Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs Advisory Board
Manhattan Institute for Policy Research Senior Fellow, 1993
Project for the New American Century

this is REALLY COOL!!!!!!!!

Pat C.,
I wish I could go... I'm with the grands now during the week... home on the weekend. Looking at surgery for my husband mid to end of March... and a trip with my Dad to see his only remaining sister in Myrtle Beach before April. I have been keeping journals for over thirty years now, and March is proving to be logistically a difficult time for me. If this were a 'safer' time... I would take the grands and hop the bus out of Fayetteville. I took my daughter on the Peace March in the 80s... took her out of school for a week. Would not even think about that now.

Peg,

This database is online:

Who's Who of the Elite : Members of the Bilderbergs, Council on Foreign Relations, & Trilateral Commission by Robert Gaylon Ross Sr.

So when you click on the website you posted, you come up with their data.

If, however, you do a 'Google Search' for John R. Bolton you come up with 627,000 entries. If you ask Google to search John R. Bolton bio (which is what I use for other folk when I want profile) you get top entries: bio-terrorism, biochemical, bio-defense. In fact, you have to go about eight links before you get his gov't BIO here http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/biog/2976.htm

which includes on AEI activity, nothing on: Council on Foreign Relations, Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs Advisory Board,
Manhattan Institute for Policy Research Senior Fellow, 1993 or Project for the New American Century.

You would still have to look for his dob and family members. Aside from the sexual orientation, which I find unnecessary and not easily substantiated :-)

I think you have found a cool tool for checking out the fascists quickly... Kudos...

I believe there are peace marches throughout the country. The previous ones i've helped organize in Chattanooga have been peaceful events for the most part. When Cheney made an appearance here last year we scrambled together a group and heckled him and all the overtly wealthy attending the fundraiser. Cheney took in an astounding amount of money that day. . .and the citizens paid it -- police vigilance as well as closing a major highway so that he could be escorted from airport to engagement. Unbelievable!

Let's hope this coming one is as successful as those past. (I've since moved and had no part in planning this particular event.) One thing i DO see that could be troublesome are a few of those march participants who do go over the top with inflamatory rhetoric just to get a reaction. That happened in the Washington Peace March in 1968. Some of my friends were gassed at that one.

karen

Bolton needs to tell us what he did with that eight BILLION of OUR money & fork it over... we'll give it to our schools or whatever! Other than that, it's just another nickel-a-dozen hideous sleezy microbic supremacist malebot. ;O)

you're right Jo, there is a better link. I'm such a computer dummy, but I try :) http://www.nndb.com/people/329/000048185/

this will give Bolton's info, but you can enter anyone's name at the top. I don't know how to give the home page?

I forgot to mention that Venus/Uranus in the 8th or 5th sometimes may indicate a switch hitter.

VCZ - I forget - (a lot of things by the way :))
but I think you're an astrologer, aren't you.

Some of you know I had a computer zapped by a clean up program and lost hundreds and hundreds of charts - so it's a pain in the butt to have to
re-do all my mundane and political charts.

Anyway, I dont have Jenna and Barbara's charts but
if you want to do them and look for molestation, look at the 4th house -home - planets in it - and the aspects. If Neptune is there, for the drunk that he was, or Pluto (in the child's chart)look at the hard aspects to the ruler of the chart, the ruler of the 5th and eighth, and to the ruler of the child's chart for indications.

I don;t have Falwell's chart anymore, but I recall he was one nasty bigoted customer,mean, and it had to do with his father, beatings were indicated.

boo hoo hoo - I miss my cache of charts!

Pallas,

Do you still have the same hard drive? Have you tried to use Norton utilities to retrieve the data. Some computer nerd could get it for you I'm sure, if you have the hard drive. Nothing is ever 'erased' - it simply looks like it's gone... or that's what my brother tells me :-)

p.s.- Jo, type in Jeff Gannon, lololol

Peg,

This would be the home page for the link you gave. Just erase the end, which is Bolton's file.

Gannon --- LOL

Peg, Well, my Mercury is fried... forgot to give you the link... time to get off line!

http://www.nndb.com/

Before I go, here's a list of the 14 Dems who voted cloture on the Bankruptcy bill:

Biden (DE)
Byrd (WV)
Carper (DE)
Conrad (ND)
Johnson (SD)
Kohl (WI)
Landrieu (LA)
Lieberman (CT)
Lincoln (AR)
Nelson (FL)
Nelson (NE)
Pryor (AR)
Salazar (CO)
Stabenow (MI)

And here's link to Kos' article on holding them accountable

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/3/9/105853/8139

One more link I forgot... Lieberman was one of the 14... folks are disgusted with his record. A website went on on Feb 28 to collect funds to give to primary opposition for him - here's the link

http://www.timetogojoe.com/

one more!

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DumpJoe/

Gold opened at 440.00 this morning and is on its
way up more today.

Gold went from 424 to 440 today in more/less than a couple of weeks.

Be a good idea to buy gold coins as Sally says, although I personally wouldn't get involved in the stock market gold paper. The point of buying the gold coins is in case the dollar collapses. But the market sees everyone buying gold so they're opening gold stock markets. Already there are posts saying the gold stocks are not backed by anything.

Occasionally there are fall backs,when big gold holders sell and are taking profits and then buy again at the lower price. It would be a good idea IMHO to buy then, like they do.
Some places will only sell gold coins in denominations of $1000 but I bet there are others where a few coins could be bought.

And by the way, they offer to hold your gold coins so you can resell them - but I don;t think that's such a good idea. they mail them to you registered if you ask. You want them in your hands in case you have to use them, I think. And don;t put em in a safety deposit box in the bank.
Cause if everything were to crash - and banks close, you aint gonna get your gold coin to buy groceries.

Who knows if it will come to that.

Sally, do you think it will come to that???

Monex.com gives the prices of various countries gold coins...I think Canadian is best, cause its
99% gold - I wouldn't buy from Monex though - their profit margin is too high. Gold coins can be bought in denominations of 1/10 of an ounce and
1/20th of an ounce meaning 1/10th ounce gold coin today would be worth $44 dollars and 1/20th would be worth $22.00.

Thanks JO.

No , they're really all gone. Not even on the hard drive. I spent three weeks on the phone with the manufacturers trying to recover them.

DONT BUY a program called GHOST sold at Costco.
The manufacturer even offered my money back in apology.

It cleans up your computer ok. removes dll's and parts of programs, mistaking them for viruses, so none of your programs ever work again.

Oh Pallas,

I'm so sorry! Thank you soooo much on the tip on Ghost. My husband refused to get near a computer until they put one on his desk at work a few years ago. Now he thinks he's an expert. He bought a copy of Ghost at Staples last month... it was on sale. He asked me about it and I told him I didn't know anything about it, but that our Norton program does everything it claims to do. It's on his desk... I will email him now to throw the thing away... thank you, thank you...

Quick note to all: Rochester NY TV station has report up on manufacture of Sadaam's capture 'from a hole' --- story from a soldier

http://www.wokr13.tv/news/national/story.aspx?content_id=422B960A-26BA-4891-9E60-21C8818788D4

http://www.tompaine.com/articles/what_now_for_the_peace_movement.php

What Now For The Peace Movement?

Polls in recent weeks show a full 59 percent of Americans are now in favor of withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq. But they're not acting on this view, in part because they worry about the potential for even greater chaos following a U.S. exit. The task for the peace movement—responsible for the huge public demonstrations against a war in Iraq in the days prior to March 19, 2003—is speaking to these concerns as it mobilizes untapped public sentiment against the occupation.

Amy Quinn is the Peace Movement Links Coordinator for the  Institute for Policy Studies in Washington, D.C. She is a founding steering committee member of  United for Peace and Justice.

In the six months leading up to the invasion of Iraq, the United States erupted in a display of citizen dissent not seen since the Vietnam War era. Now, almost two years later, the majority of the American public view Iraq as a train wreck. Yet public outrage about this war’s seemingly endless tragedy has remained largely under the radar.

To turn up the volume and power of voices calling for an end to the U.S. war and occupation, the same organizations behind the massive rallies of 2003 and 2004 are planning a fresh strategy for engaging the public in constructive action on Iraq.

With the backdrop of an escalating war that’s ravaging Iraq, destabilizing U.S. communities, and sowing seeds of resentment against the United States around the world, United for Peace and Justice—the nation’s largest peace coalition—assembled 500 delegates over President’s Day weekend in St. Louis to chart a roadmap for the next year to bolster and build the U.S. peace and justice movement. The assembly whittled dozens of proposals from member groups down to a powerful action plan to bolster the movement to end the war. A set of priorities emerged that maximizes the White House vulnerabilities generated by the Iraq War and sets a proactive agenda of alternatives to the Bush administration’s belligerent policies.

Building A Plan....

http://tinyurl.com/6qjbd

What Democrats are up against in today’s GOP

Gene Lyons

Many Democrats still don’t grasp what they’re up against in today’s Republican Party. Naïve souls, they prefer to see national politics as a giant PTA meeting, and to comfort themselves with civics text bromides about the virtues of compromise and bipartisanship. Even in the face of the Clinton impeachment and the naked power play that decided the 2000 presidential election, they have trouble comprehending the sheer ruthlessness of the GOP political juggernaut. This is nothing new. Even during FDR’s presidency, Will Rogers joked that he belonged to no organized political party: He was a Democrat. Today, however, the party simply must learn to effectively counter the well-organized army of think-tank, opinion page and cable TV propagandists who parrot the GOP party line, no matter how illogical or preposterous.

More...

From Mark Crispin Miller

Friends, Hard Times, my new show at the New York Theater Workshop, will

be starting up next Tuesday night--March 15--at 7:30 p.m. The other

two performances are scheduled for March 22 and April 5.

Admission will be free, but reservations will be necessary. (I'll be doing the

piece in the Workshop's little theater, two doors down from the main

auditorium at 79 E. 4th, between the Bowery and 2nd Avenue.) To reserve

seats, call 212-780-9037, x117.

I hope to see you there!

MCM

Steve Bell

http://www.guardian.co.uk/cartoons/stevebell/0,7371,1432862,00.html

Pallas, yes I do think it will come to a run on banks eventually, and with Saturn oppose the US Pluto and SA Uranus conjuncting US Pluto, it could be sooner rather than later. The SR US Uranus and 7th House cusp are all hitting the US Pluto, and what do we have? Foreign money outstripping the US, it will all be brought on by the march to the World Order group.

No matter how many charts of individual leaders we delineate, there are tons of "players' we know nothing about and cannot access their charts. Remember the "shadow" government? The Bilderberg group, Iluminiti and the list goes on. Sticking with the charts of countries is far more accurate than looking at leaders charts.

Not only do we have Saturn oppose US Pluto, Mercury goes retrograde opposite the US Saturn (always watch Mercury the messenger in any chart,) and Jupiter is retrograding back over the US Saturn. This isn't going to be good news (Bush Moon conj. US Saturn)

Buy vitamins and gold.

Not suprised to see Bidden on the cloture list, MBNA's hometown Wilmington; but where's Byrd coming from?????

If you want to play around with a chartworking in the opposite direction, ..........Here's my ex's.......known to be gay................ Sorry I don't have the Exact time of birth..................I did his chart originally with long hand math back in the 70's...and it's in that box in the loft along with Teddy Kennedy's ( my first learning chart!) I just redid Ed's chart at Astrodienst ..............and at 8 am got a Sag moon. Not right! he had a scorpio moon no question about that!!!!! And 7:30 gave him a Virgo rising; his was libra
but try it if you wish.......Ed P 9/18/1939 Somers Point NJ 74w36 39n19 about 7:45 AM.
The main item I see is the mars in 4th house in mutual reception with saturn in the 8th, saturn being squared to pluto in the 10th, & mars in the 4th. Then there's the stellium in the 12th! merc., nept, sun, & venus (ruling planet,) in from 21 virgo to 28 virgo.
He died on Jan. 21 1987, if that helps pin it down.
Such great contributions to this site everyone!
Sally.........I'm holding ontoi your "springtime" article......even tho it's15o and still snowing here!!!!!! I do see just today that the goldfinches are starting to morph to their summer bright yellow, from their winter uniform of olive drab!!!!!
Pat QOP

Hey Sally !

Good morning. I didn't know you came online so early.

"Pallas, yes I do think it will come to a run on banks eventually, and with Saturn oppose the US Pluto and SA Uranus conjuncting US Pluto, it could be sooner rather than later. The SR US Uranus and 7th House cusp are all hitting the US Pluto,"

Do you have a time frame on these transits and expectation? When is the exact Sat opp Pluto?
And SA Uranus conj US Pluto?

sorry to bother you but do you hve any dates on the exact transits?

Do you think I am too late to buy any coins at a reasonable price?

By the way, gold hit 441.60 at around 2PM and is now going down, meaning the profit takers have come in...but I doubt that it's going to go down big . I wonder if it will even go back to 424.

But when Saturn goes into Leo (gold ruler) it might go down...and I'd still buy gold then if it does....it will average out the high price of the gold being bought at 424 or 441.

Pat QOP,

your planetary description sounds like a cruel and sadistic person....sorry that happened to you.

but not enough info there or I dont see the gayness.

Sally - Please, when you feel a run may be near, 2-3 weeks, please inform us, your faithful followers, so we can pre-empt any loses. I know it wuld be wise to do it, like about now, but reality precludes that. Many of us, I assume, don't have HUGE sums, saved up, and and as long as the rest of the country is doing business by banking, we have to too. But if I could do an end run, just before, that would be merciful. Also would this warning include credit unions?

NEOBuckeye....thanks for the comments...you are describing exactly the feeling I've always had about Sr. B**....just my visceral reactions...he had a reputation of just blowing off stuff when he was pres....he'd rather go sailing. Son not any better, and not as smart....Everyone should read, at the very least, the Introduction part of Webster Tarpley's book The Unauthorized Biography of GHWB*** which is online and downloadable, or just read it online....the authors, Tarpley and Chaikin, call it The American Caligula ! http://www.tarpley.net/bushb.htm

Silver is also good...also homeopathic remedies, and protected seeds are good to have.

I'd just like to ad that SF Chronicle TV critic Tim Goodman, a very good writer, wrote a really gripping and angry huge column on the wanton destruction of a man and his career today....on Rather's last telecast.http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/03/09/DDGNKBLOI61.DTL

And geez, am I grateful to the person who mentioned that Mercury has gone into Aries....no wonder I feel reborn (Mars in Aries has kept me from committing suicide from boredom so many times! hahahahah)

Was it Jo's problem or Jill's? ( I need choline and don't have any - helps memory you know).

IRS and the house.

If either of you or anybody here is over 62, there's a thing called a reverse mortgage. It's run by Fannie Mae, Hud and the FHA. google Fannie Mae's site.

They give you money you never have to pay back as long as you live in the house until you die. Whatever is left over goes to your heirs (probably wouldn't be a lot left over, cause they have a cap of 10% over prime...so if mortgages are 5% now or 6% it could balloon to 16% interest.
But even if the amount goes over the amount of the value of the house, they can't collect it from your heirs or estate, unless you sell the house before you die...then you owe them.

Also the older you are the more they give you, cause your life expectancy diminishes right?

So if you were 70 they give you more mortgage/equity money than if you're 62.

Go google Fanie Mae and look for "reverse mortgages". I think especially in this time when the dollar is worth poop, it's a great deal. It's equity money that you dont have to pay back. You can take it monthly or in one lump sum. OF course
you take it in one lump sum right? (and buy gold :) )

If you girls or your husbands are 62 or over you can qualify.

Now I know what "Guns and Butter" means.

Buy food and protection.

Judi, I tried clicking on you name to e-mail you but it isn't working.

And I am going to include the opening sentence from The American Caligula:
The thesis of this book is simple: if George Bush were to be re- elected in November 1992 for a second term as the president of the United States, this country and the rest of the world would face a catastrophe of gigantic proportions. http://www.tarpley.net/bushint.htm
-------------------

Looks like it just got delayed 8 years....

Pat...somehow it has gotten truncated...see if this one works...

Check your mail Judi

Check your mail Judi

I am trying to figure something out and am asking for help from the knowledgeable people here.

I heard a fascinating interview last night:

"The Federal Reserve Bank
Entrepreneur and radio talk show host Andre Eggelletion shared his insights into the Federal Reserve System, which he characterized as a privately owned banking cartel. The privatization of our money system, first begun in 1913, is one of America's prime causes of economic turmoil, he believes.

The Federal Reserve has for many years no longer backed currency with gold or silver, and as a private corporation it's free to make profits off its transactions and interest charges. In fact, Eggelletion pointed out that part of the U.S.'s national debt is actually owed to the Federal Reserve. This rampaging system has lowered the standard of living for most Americans and robs people of their money through inflation, he stated.

The Reserve, which has never been audited, is so powerful that he views it as a "separate shadow government" of America, with Allan Greenspan "riding the back of the tiger." Eggelletion advocates for the US government to nationalize the central bank and restore the constitutional power to issue our own money. But he said that only one Congressman (Ron Paul from Texas) has been brave enough to stand up for this. The rest of Congress lacks the "intestinal fortitude to challenge the economic paradigm," he declared."

He said that both A. Lincoln and Kennedy were assassinated for this reason--trying to nationalize the monetary system.

He also said that the reason for the Iraq War was to prevent Hussein from going Euro and devastating our economy. That would explain why they all voted for it.

Now it seems to that the next World War is in progress already with the European Union. Are we trapped and cornered? We can be destroyed at any time by the Euro. Is the world staying on the dollar to preserve our trade? Are they stringing us along for a big blow, or just keeping us in check?
Are these neoconmen completely incapable of handling all of this?
Sometimes I think that their continuation of power was a setup.

I think we've lost it. I know it's up to the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, and the rest of the gang. But they might be infighting and losing control.
Any ideas?

http://www.blackboxvoting.org/

From Black Box Voting: Investigation Update
(Submitted to members of the House Judiciary Committee on Mar. 4 and Mar. 8.)

In mid-February, Black Box Voting, together with computer experts and videographers, under the supervision of appropriate officials, proved that a real Diebold system can be hacked.

This was not theoretical or a "potential" vulnerability. Votes were hacked on a real system in a real location using the actual setup used on Election Day, Nov. 2, 2004.

In October, Black Box Voting published an article on this Web site about remote access into the Diebold system. After examining the Diebold software and related internal e-mails, local security professionals were able to demonstrate a hack into a simulated system.

In February, we were allowed to try various hacking techniques into a real election system. To our surprise, the method used in our October simulation did not work.

However, another method did work. The hack that did work was unsophisticated enough that many high school students would be able to achieve it. This hack altered the election by 100,000 votes, leaving no trace at all in the central tabulator program. It did not appear in any audit log. The hack could have been executed in the November 2004 election by just one person.

JM

the trilateral and cfr are not who you want to have control...they have beeen planning the takeover of world govt for 50 years along with other societies Bilderberg for one, and they are within 1/4 inch of achieving it, if it is not totall achieved now.

google David Rockefeller + trilateral + kissinger
and start reading. It's too much to explain.

Sally is expert on the subject of federal reserve
We all tend to think its part of u.s. govt. It's not.

Ask Sally to expound on the takeover of our money .
She knows a lot.

Yeah, I know about the monetary control groups. It just seems that they might be fracturing under pressure, and that's what I am trying to find out. I don't think it is logistically possible to control the whole world, and the breakdown from within is always poised to occur.

Dan Rather’s Long Goodbye: Who Done It?
by Joe Hagan

EASTLAND, TEX.—Three days before Dan Rather was to retire from the CBS Evening News on March 9, the man who gave him the suspicious memos that precipitated his departure as anchor sat in a Mexican restaurant here, 126 miles west of Dallas.

Former National Guardsman Bill Burkett, 55, has grown a full, white beard since his last face-to-face meeting with Mr. Rather, on Sept. 18, 2004. That day, the CBS anchor interviewed him for three hours at the Crescent Court hotel in Dallas, 10 days after 60 Minutes Wednesday had first presented the memos from Mr. Burkett asserting that George W. Bush had received preferential treatment in the National Guard .

Cameras rolling, Mr. Rather had asked Mr. Burkett, his former source—whom he had once promised not to "hang out"—point-blank, if he had misled the network about their provenance.

The former National Guardsman, knowing he was writing his own epitaph, said he had.

"I looked him in the eye," recalled Mr. Burkett, "and I said, ‘Dan, do you know what you just did to me? Will you attend my funeral?’"

And, according to Mr. Burkett, Dan Rather replied: "Will you attend mine? In fact, I want you to read the eulogy."

Afterward, said Mr. Burkett, "Dan couldn’t look me in the eye."
(more)
http://www.observer.com/pages/frontpage5.asp

And in the back of my mind, a fact jumps up....the Federal Reserve Bank was created by Pat Robertson's father, who was president of the bank of Scotland...no wonder he's got a high profile with the Emperor.

WV...can you explain the CBS story in bullet points? WHO was double crossed and set up? I am lost....I do understand that ANY one blowing the whistle on the rich and powerful are likely to be 'set up' but it appears that Rather and team paid the biggest price...anyone else have thoughts to set me straight?

Very interesting, judi g.

There are too many people involved. Something's gotta blow. My sources have suggested someone by the name of Count Barnard Willhelm as the head honcho.

But it goes back to royalty, and they are famous for backstabbing and insane machinations to keep power.
This network can't possibly keep it all together.

Ready for this?

Now you want to undersand why dumbnuts allowed oil to rise to 55 a barrel, besides benefiting his own and friends' bottom line?

He just announced he's going to fix the oil crisis
by drilling in the Alaska protected fields.

Sy Hersh said it. Nothing will stop these people.

Thanks to all for the articles ~ So informative~ "I "feel" that we are going to have to pay the piper and the perfect storm/economic disaster is coming ~ Call me an alarmist, but I am in the process of placing my over inflated $home$ in N. California on the real estate market before this whole house of cards gets blown down.

And~

I am so weary of the Bushites Dog and Pony shows~ When,Oh When will Enough really be Enough

Ex-MARINE SAYS PUBLIC VERSION OF SADDAM CAPTURE FICTION

A former U.S. Marine who participated in capturing ousted Iraqi President Saddam Hussein said the public version of his capture was fabricated.

Ex-Sgt. Nadim Abou Rabeh, of Lebanese descent, was quoted in the Saudi daily al-Medina Wednesday as saying Saddam was actually captured Friday, Dec. 12, 2003, and not the day after, as announced by the U.S. Army.

"I was among the 20-man unit, including eight of Arab descent, who searched for Saddam for three days in the area of Dour near Tikrit, and we found him in a modest home in a small village and not in a hole as announced," Abou Rabeh said.

CONTINUED~

http://www.wokr13.tv/news/national/story.aspx?content_id=422B960A-26BA-4891-9E60-21C8818788D4

Day After Report, Author Says Israeli Democracy is
at Risk...

..there will be no PEACE until this is settled...all else depends on this...

The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments:
Shortcut to: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/09/international/middleeast/09cnd-mide.html?pagewanted=print&position=

This poll really needs your input:

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/wolf.blitzer.reports/

There is hope for Kansas after all.

http://www.365gay.com/newscon05/03/030205phelps.htm

Topeka: Yes To Gay Rights No To Phelps Clan 

Shylurker, I see what you mean about the bankruptcy poll. What people are hearing is that people will have to pay back about 10% of their debt in a chapter 13 type arrangement (which is what I've been in for 10 YEARS)...that is OK...but the rich still get to walk away with virtually everything, and there are no exceptions for ANYTHING....I don't know what the people voting FOR the bill have been told about it.....but wait till THEY have to go thru it!!!

http://tinyurl.com/5dhmz

Stomping on the Bill of Rights

Nancy Pelosi sent an email out --- pointing out the abuses the GOP have committed against our Democracy... anybody else get it? She's calling for support to elect more Dems to get control to stop the GOP

Yea, verily... it's so delicious how lil fembot pelosi (or facsimile) is regularily trotted out with some kinda announcement or other to gather up dollars to "stop the GOP," or some such kinda similar reason deemed... um, workable by the DLC. Don't y'all get sick of it?! I certainly do. ;O)

The tell-tale "clue"?!? Nothing changes & nothing gets done.

Arianna....The Senate Opens Fire on US Consumers

http://www.ariannaonline.com/columns/column.php?id=762

http://www.timetogojoe.com/

From Arianna's column on the Bankruptcy Bill linked above:

"the Senate shot down amendments that would have made the bill a bit less mean-spirited. They denied proposals that would have made it easier for military veterans, the sick and the elderly to qualify for bankruptcy protection.

They even rejected an amendment that would have put a 30 percent ceiling on the interest rates credit card companies can charge. Thirty percent--that's more than Paulie Walnuts charges.

But 74 U.S. senators--including John Kerry,
Harry Reid,
Barack Obama
and Dick Durbin--

clearly thought that wasn't high enough"

I'm surprised. Why did even they vote for it?

Why did 74 senators vote for that amendment limiting interest to 30 per cent? Because some states limit interest to 21 per cent. There was a good explanation for the vote in Daily Kos' discussion of the bill earlier today. Kerry, Obama, Durbin et al. didn't want to be seen as going over the states that have a lower limit, and they didn't want to be seen as supporting higher interest rates.

If anything, the rate ceiling should have been much lower, like around 15 per cent. But I don't think they're going to allow that anytime soon.

Oh yeah--btw, great article, Sally. Let's hope that when the s*** hits the fan with these guys that they don't take us all down with them. This new soon-to-be bankruptcy law is plenty bad enough.

JM,

Here's a good article on the dollar...

Why the Dollar is Falling
By Antony P. Mueller

[Posted March 8, 2005]

When confronted with complaints about the falling value of the dollar, the U.S. official is said to have responded to his European visitors: "The dollar is our currency, but it's your problem." That was in 1971. The politician to whom this statement is attributed was John Connally, who at that time served as the secretary of the U.S. Treasury. His boss was Richard Nixon, the same President who used a word for the Italian lira which politeness prohibits repeating. Nevertheless, Connally and Nixon made clear how matters were.

In the meantime, the Italian lira no longer exists. It has merged into the euro, when the single European currency was established in 1999. The endeavors to create a common currency had begun in the early 1970s, when the Europeans began to construct their own currency systems based on stable exchange rates and off the dollar standard.

http://www.mises.org/fullstory.aspx?Id=1759

Chertoff - a due citizen???

http://www.etherzone.com/forum/index.php/topic,3280.0.html

More Bad News On The Jobs Front
By Paul Craig Roberts

The February payroll jobs figures released last Friday by the Bureau of Labor Statistics show a continuation of America’s descent into a Third World service economy.

http://www.vdare.com/roberts/050308_jobs.htm

Something to think about - Yellowstone....

http://www.rense.com/general63/yellowstonesslumbering.htm

(-:!!! Here is something to celebrate !!!:-)

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/health_medical/story.jsp?story=618145

Hope for 250,000 sufferers as British diabetic is 'cured'

Yes, Joanna

I am sick of it... I'm ready to throw all the rascals out. We could govern like the Native Americans did, locally... direct Democracy... no representatives. Send delegates to federation meetings... do away with county and state governments... heck 1/2 the country would be out of work, and then if we stopped all the wars, brought the troops home...

Is there life on Mars? Can we go there? Or, do the fascists already have plans for that?

Think you need the Representatives? Hospitals are refusing to treat those who can't pay, saw that this a.m. Social Security going... and now comes a report that the infrastructure is going, going, gone...

http://www.wokr13.tv/news/national/story.aspx?content_id=FFC6AF81-55DD-42A6-BAF9-0F94DC9D7773

Y'all ready to revolt? I am...

The cheese stands alone... the cheese stands alone... hiho the dairi-o...

What Jesus Wouldn't Do

http://www.alternet.org/story/21428/

Gina,

you misread that....They voted AGAINST a cap of
30 percent on interest ALLOWING HIGHER .

"They even rejected an amendment that would have put a 30 percent ceiling on the interest rates credit card companies can charge. Thirty percent--that's more than Paulie Walnuts charges. "

As far as I'm concerned the wrong Kerry ran for Prez. she would have been better.

but I'm surprised at Durbin, Reid and Obama...I'm wondering what kind of deal they're making on some other bill - that could be the only explanation.....unless they're getting big capaign contributions from the credidt card cos.

DUH

Wahhavi White House...

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ahemmmmmm - but this is online on ABC - not in any newspaper that I know of..maybe we should be emailing it to Olberman and Mathews and a few like that.

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/Investigation/story?id=566425&page=1

SECRET FBI REPORT QUESTIONS AL QUEDA CAPABILITIES

"No 'True' Al Qaeda Sleeper Agents Have Been Found in U.S."

"And for all the worry about Osama bin Laden's sleeper cells or agents in the United States, a secret FBI assessment concludes it knows of none."

"The 32-page assessment says flatly, "To date, we have not identified any true 'sleeper' agents in the US," seemingly contradicting the "sleeper cell" description prosecutors assigned to seven men in Lackawanna, N.Y., in 2002."

-more-

http://www.mediachannel.org/views/dissector/affalert335.shtml

"Save Democracy, Shut Off Chris Matthews

catch the reference to being anti "non-proliferation". now you know who revealed Valerie Plame.

Wow. Uranus square Uranus. All hell is breaking loose...no real al queda in the US, and who Bolton really is ... this is getting pleasantly hopeful
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The enemy within

How an Americanist devoted to destroying international alliances became the US envoy to the UN

Sidney Blumenthal
Thursday March 10, 2005
The Guardian

In the heat of the battle over the Florida vote after the 2000 US presidential election, a burly, mustachioed man burst into the room where the ballots for Miami-Dade County were being tabulated, like John Wayne barging into a saloon for a shoot-out. "I'm with the Bush-Cheney team, and I'm here to stop the count," drawled John Bolton. And those ballots from Miami-Dade were not counted.
Now that same John Bolton has been named by President Bush as the US ambassador to the UN. "If I were redoing the security council today, I'd have one permanent member because that's the real reflection of the distribution of power in the world," Bolton once said. Lately, as undersecretary of state for arms control, he has wrecked all the nonproliferation diplomacy within his reach. Over the past two decades he has been the person most dedicated to trying to discredit the UN. George Orwell's clock of 1984 is striking 13.

The euphoria that Bush's European trip marked a conversion on the road to Brussels is fading. For it was Bush himself who decided to reward Bolton with a position where he could continue his crusade as a "convinced Americanist" against the "globalists," especially those at the UN and the EU. "

"Bolton made a play to become deputy secretary of state after the 2004 election, but was blocked by Condoleezza Rice, who understood that his love of bureaucratic infighting would have undermined her authority. Dick Cheney privately promised Bolton that if all else failed he would give him a job on his vice presidential staff, but that proved unnecessary when Bush nominated him to the UN post. Rice announced his appointment, symbolically demonstrating that he reports to her. But Bolton has deep support within the White House, and Rice is very much a work-in-progress."

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/a51f413c-8f3a-11d9-a70f-00000e2511c8.html

Indian and Chinese banks pulling out of ailing US dollar

The extent to which Indian and Chinese banks are cutting their exposure to the ailing US dollar was revealed yesterday in data from the Bank for International Settlements.

The Asian central and commercial banks covered in the BIS data held only 67 per cent of their deposits in dollars as of September 2004, down from 81 per cent in the third quarter of 2001, said the Basel-based bank. The data indicate the shift out of the dollar was most evident in India, where dollar holdings fell from 68 per cent to 43 per cent during the three-year period.

Chinese banks have reduced their dollar share from 83 per cent to 68 per cent mostly before the third quarter of 2002.

The data do not include Japan, which has the world's largest foreign exchange reserves, nor deposits held in countries that do not provide a currency breakdown, such as Singapore and Hong Kong. Only cash and other short-term monetary instruments are counted. The figures come only two weeks after the Bank of Korea said it was reducing the proportion of its dollar reserves. The euro and Japanese yen have been the most popular alternatives. “This . . . adds more evidence to the view that the hegemony of the dollar in the region is declining,” said Tony Norfield, global head of forex strategy at ABN Amro.

BIS points out that dollar-denominated deposits have risen in absolute terms, “suggesting, at most, that the currency shift is taking place at the margin,” said report author Patrick McGuire.

The waning enthusiasm for dollar assets comes at a time when the US needs to attract $2bn of capital a day to cover its current account deficit.

I live a few blocks from the Naval Medical Center in Bethesda, where all the higher ups go for medical treatment. Today, as I passed it, there was a police escort of two limosenes, followed by a black sedan and a black van, then another police car with siren blasting, to bring up the rear. Have we heard of anyone going for any special treatment? Clinton will be in New York for his, yes? So I was wondering if Cheney, who we haven't heard from much lately, and who has a Saturn station sitting opposite his Venus, was somehow related to what I witnessed today. this was clearly some major bigwig or his family being transported.

This AM's WP has a big front page story on the Shiites of Lebanon demonstrating to keep the Syrian/Shiite presence in their country. The article didn't stress the Shiite versus Sunni aspect of the (counter)demonstration, but it hit me between the eyes. I began to wonder if recent events would lead to a Shiite/Sunni civil war in Lebanon like we are seeing in Iraq. I also wondered if instead of democracy spreading like spring flowers in the Middle East, perhaps Bush has spread a growing civil war between the Islamic World's two factions.

Nancy,

get out your binoculars or a high powered telescope..you can be our "eye" in DC. Wonder if it was dumbnuts incognito?

Don't you remember dumbnuts saying early on in his best John Wayne imitation "We're going to export chaos"...

and he is.

If you get a chance read the rest of the Blumenthal Guardian article on Bolton. It's an eye opener.

Now I know it was him at that meeting in Germany
(I couldn't remember whether the name was Bolton or Boucher) bedfore 9/11 who challenged bin laden to attack, saying Bush was going to get him first...

This is the person who caused 9/11.

Two paragraphs from the 1991 book on GHWB...which I mentioned back a while today, which are just too eerie :

The necessity of writing this book became overwhelming in the minds of the authors in the wake of the ghastly slaughter of the Iraq war of January-February 1991. That war was an act of savage and premeditated genocide on the part of Bush, undertaken in connivance with a clique in London which has, in its historical continuity, represented both the worst enemy of the long-term interests of the American people, and the most implacable adversary of the progress of the human species.

The authors observed George Bush very carefully as the Gulf crisis and the war unfolded, and had no doubt that his enraged public outbursts constituted real psychotic episodes, indicative of a deranged mental state that was full of ominous portent for humanity. The authors were also horrified by the degree to which their fellow citizens willfully ignored the shocking reality of these public fits. A majority of the American people proved more than willing to lend its support to a despicable enterprise of killing.

But with Bush, this is only the beginning of the problem. Bush's family pedigree establishes him as a network asset of Brown Brothers, Harriman, one of the most powerful political forces in the United States during much of the twentieth century, and for many years the largest private bank in the world. It suffices in this context to think of Averell Harriman negotiating during World War II in the name of the United States with Churchill and Stalin, or of the role of Brown Brothers, Harriman partner Robert Lovett in guiding John F. Kennedy's choice of his cabinet, to begin to see the implications of Senator Prescott Bush's post as managing partner of this bank. Brown Brothers, Harriman networks pervade government and the mass media. Again and again in the course of the following pages we will see stories embarrassing to George Bush refused publication, documents embarrassing to Bush suspiciously disappear, and witnesses inculpatory to Bush be overtaken by mysterious and conveniently timed deaths. The few relevant facts which have found their way here and there into the public domain have necessarily been filtered by this gigantic apparatus. This problem has been compounded by the corruption and servility of authors, journalists, news executives and publishers who have functioned more and more as kept advocates for Bush.
.......

AND THIS WAS PUBLISHED 14 YEARS AGO.... No wonder Clinton's win caused them to be so ENRAGED that they promised to destroy him. Like walking into a hornet's nest. Now look at the Bill Clinton....not to mention Hillary; part of the nest?
......

Great article:

http://www.mediatransparency.org/stories/bushgodandmedia.html
Bush, God, and the Media

How the president has used religion to control American politics

http://www.thehill.com/thehill/export/TheHill/News/Frontpage/031005/dean.html

Ho-Ho on Smirky's "Town Hall" meetings (UnAmerican). hahahahahahahahaha

Thanks, Jo, for the financial link. That was excellent.
I guess we're like the barking neighborhood dog now...fenced and trapped.
I bet the White House Weasel will be put back in his cage soon. Let him spin his brains out on his little treadmill.

bhakti, judi gemini, thanks for the welcome!

Wow, this country seems to be moving onto shakier and shakier ground with each passing day, doesn't it? Anyone catch Sen. McCain's remarks about the decline of US presence in the Pacific?

http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=27630

Sen. John McCain said he has serious concerns about the current and planned U.S. military presence in the Pacific and said operations in Iraq and Afghanistan “may be mortgaging our future.”

The comments came as Adm. William J. Fallon, Commander of U.S. Pacific Command and Army Gen. Leon J. LaPorte, Commander of United States Forces Korea, testified before Congress on Tuesday to discuss their operational plans related to the 2006 defense budget.

McCain called the Middle East operations “legitimate demands” but said he worries that not enough attention is being paid to the military’s ability to react to China and North Korea, the next “challenges” the U.S. military will face.

The Arizona Republican criticized the military for not yet determining if Japan will allow a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier to replace the USS Kitty Hawk when it is decommissioned in 2008, and he said the total number of ships in the region has dropped too quickly in the last several years.

-- Wonder how long before China makes a pass at Taiwan? I mean, it's not like we could even put up a fight to save them at this point, though who knows what the Bush-Cheney machine might try.

I read that Women and African-Americans are rejecting military recruitment efforts in increasing numbers. Gee, I can't imagine why? This isn't good news for the Bush/GOP Draft efforts, either. When people are consciously deciding NOT to go into the military, that makes them ever more likely to dodge, protest and fight back against any effort to force them in.

Also I read that report, Jo, of the report by the civil engineers of the decline of the country's infrastructure. Bridges, roads, damns, railways, you name it. They're decaying in a pretty big way, and we're doing little on the proactive side to repair them. Seems like it's only a matter of time before a major highway bridge gives out during rush hour.

Of course, if we hadn't dumped so much money in IRAQ...

Oh, yeah. Oil. That's why! Never mind the fact that it's PEAKING...

http://www.energybulletin.net/4638.html

The peaking of world oil production presents the U.S. and the world with an unprecedented risk management problem. As peaking is approached, liquid fuel prices and price volatility will increase dramatically, and, without timely mitigation, the economic, social, and political costs will be unprecedented. Viable mitigation options exist on both the supply and demand sides, but to have substantial impact, they must be initiated more than a decade in advance of peaking.

In 2003, the world consumed just under 80 million barrels per day (MM bpd) of oil. U.S. consumption was almost 20 MM bpd, two-thirds of which was in the transportation sector. The U.S. has a fleet of about 210 million automobiles and light trucks (vans, pick-ups, and SUVs). The average age of U.S. automobiles is nine years. Under normal conditions, replacement of only half the automobile fleet will require 10-15 years. The average age of light trucks is seven years. Under normal conditions, replacement of one-half of the stock of light trucks will require 9-14 years. While significant improvements in fuel efficiency are possible in automobiles and light trucks, any affordable approach to upgrading will be inherently time-consuming, requiring more than a decade to achieve significant overall fuel efficiency improvement.

Besides further oil exploration, there are commercial options for increasing world oil supply and for the production of substitute liquid fuels: 1) Improved Oil Recovery (IOR) can marginally increase production from existing reservoirs; one of the largest of the IOR opportunities is Enhanced Oil Recovery (EOR), which can help moderate oil production declines from reservoirs that are past their peak production: 2) Heavy oil / oil sands represents a large resource of lower grade oils, now primarily produced in Canada and Venezuela; those resources are capable of significant production increases;. 3) Coal liquefaction is a well-established technique for producing clean substitute fuels from the world’s abundant coal reserves; and finally, 4) Clean substitute fuels can be produced from remotely located natural gas, but exploitation must compete with the world’s growing demand for liquefied natural gas. However, world-scale contributions from these options will require 10-20 years of accelerated effort.

--Let me repost that:

"However, world-scale contributions from these options will require 10-20 years of accelerated effort."

10-20 years, eh?

I think Europe is something like 5 years in now with a mix of wind and some solar. France is putting much of it's faith in Nuclear. China is working on projects with dams and also with nuclear. None of these are "magic bullet" solutions, but on the other hand, where is the US on alternative energy???

Answer: In Iraq. And coming soon to Iran, if Bush, Cheney and Co have their way.

Sorry boys, but playtime is about over for absurd GOP/NeoCon dreams of global conquest and rule. America is asking for a reality check, big time. We'd do best to follow the EU and China's lead.

And maybe while were at it, we could be giving these guys a very big boost: http://www.apolloalliance.org

Maybe it's just me, but Peak Oil has Pluto in Capricorn written all over it. We're not even there yet, and we, those of us who care to, can already see those cracks in the foundation.

Is that a wrecking ball I see swinging oft in the distance?

more Mandeville Earth Changes..

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Senate Committee has killed B***'s Clear Skies. :-D

David Corn has an enlightening piece:

The New York Times, a Massacre, and Bush's Deputy National Security Adviser

..."The fellow who misled Congress and who covered up for mass-murderers in El Salvador is in charge of encouraging democracy abroad. Does it get more perverse than this?

On to Thing Two. After reports of the El Mozote massacre emerged, the Reagan administration not only put out false propaganda, it leaned on the Times because Times reporter Raymond Bonner had first disclosed the story of El Mozote in the US media. In return for this heroic piece of reporting, the Reaganites badmouthed Bonner, claiming he was a tool of the leftist rebels. They urged Abe Rosenthal, then the editor of the newspaper, to yank Bonner out of Central America."

http://www.davidcorn.com/2005/03/the_new_york_ti.php

We have the equivalent of the Mafia running this country from the White House. If you don't toe the line, you're out in the Corporate Media. And if you blow the whistle, you end up dead.

Remember the 50s when folks said the Russian media was a State mouthpiece? Well guess what?

Don't look for help in anyway from Corporate Media.

David Corn's article above illustrates that propaganda was big deal through the Reagan administration, and probably through the first * administration. Makes one believe some Repugs have been fascist for some time. And now we are learning that some Democrats are fascist. Watch the vote. IMHO Lieberman is fascist. Match his record up to Claudia's 14 points of fascism. McCain? He's a wily one... but he is with Lieberman on the Bill they introduced to confront Russia. War in the Middle East is not enough for these thugs.

I'm making a list of fascists. You better believe they're making a list of us.

You are just wonderful Jo! You bring so much.

http://www.buzzflash.com/interviews/05/03/int05012.html

Robert Kane Pappas' Reflections on Orwell, 2005

In the end the party would announce that 2 plus 2 made 5, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make that claim, sooner or later, the logic of their position demanded it. -- George Orwell, in 1984

More...

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/10/opinion/10dowd.html?hp

A Defense That's Offensively Weak - Dowd

http://www.tomdispatch.com/index.mhtml?emx=x&pid=2251

Which War Is This Anyway?

Are We in World War IV?

Throughout much of the Cold War, people feared above all else a global hot war, the third great one in a century of devastating world wars; and we crept up to it more than once -- most desperately, there can be no doubt, at the time of the Cuban Missile Crisis in October 1962. For decades, the world was poised for that next world war; the two superpowers with their nuclear arsenals running to thousands of weapons (as they still do), a few hundred of which would have been civilization-busting, many hundreds of which might have been nuclear-winter inducing and life extinguishing; all of them cocked in their silos or loaded in the bomb-bays of Soviet or American planes, or stashed on the submarines that made up the unreachable third leg of the nuclear "tripod" and were primed for almost instantaneous action. World War III, which might have ended it all, could indeed have started, as the U.S. military feared for decades, with those Soviet tanks pouring through the Fulda Gap in Germany, and escalated from there to "theater," and finally intercontinental, ballistic missiles. It would have been a show. The last picture show, you might say. And, let's face it, it didn't happen.

Yes, the two superpowers, armed to the teeth and eyeing each other for half a century, oozed aggression, and fought and bled each other in a series of proxy border wars; relatively overtly in Korea, Vietnam, and Afghanistan; more covertly or indirectly in lands ranging from Tibet to Angola. (Yes, yes, in each of those cases, other powerful forces were at work, but certainly the global Cold War was part of the mix.) Nonetheless, over those fifty-plus years -- despite mutual memories of bloody stalemate in Korea, our memories of grim defeat in Vietnam, and Russian memories of the same in Afghanistan -- the most striking aspect of the Cold War was that the emphasis remained, however barely at times, on the "cold," not the "war." It's worth saying more than once, given our present moment and the claims being made: World War III never happened -- or I wouldn't be sitting here on the Internet writing this and you wouldn't be at your computer reading it. Put another way, "the Cold War" was simply an oxymoron that we got incredibly used to; a small, bleak sigh of linguistic relief at what hadn't quite (yet) come to be.

More....

Majority Leader May Have Broken House Rules
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A22067-2005Mar9?language=printer
Tom DeLay and other Republican House members accepted an expense-paid trip to South Korea in 2001 from a registered foreign agent in violation of House rules, documents show.

U.S. Quits Agreement on Access to Diplomats
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A21981-2005Mar9?language=printer
The Bush administration has decided to pull out of an international protocol that opponents of the death penalty have used to fight the sentences of foreigners on death row in the United States

BTW, today is a new moon, 09-12 GMT (20 degrees Pisces trine Saturn). This is the last New Moon before the Solar Eclipse on April 8th. The Sun is trining Saturn.

A brit's view of the Supreme Court....

http://news.independent.co.uk/low_res/story.jsp?story=618388&host=3&dir=70

JibJab on drugs....

http://www.jibjab.com/cu_play_full.html

Bush's Priorities - NYTimes lead editorial...

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wv, that wonderful!!!

I've been over two years for the illegality of the invasion of Iraq to blow up in Tony Blair's face. (Unlike Americans, the Brits care about whether a war is 'legal' or not... and whether or not they were lied to)

MPs are questioning the PM about the minimum disclosure he gave the cabinet about Brit's AG's decision on the legality of the invasion in March 2003... never mind that the PM's wife's law firm said it was illegal; nevermind that 14plus international attorneys wrote a letter to the PM stating it was illegal... never mind that this grandma in a red state could read the UN resolutions and call it illegal... the PM, who is an attorney himself... called it legal...

Little ol' fashioned karma about to rain down...

Marjorie Orr's site says the following about Phony Tony and his government...

..."In December (2004) also Uranus returns for the final square to Mars so more sudden surprises of the unwanted kind will crop up producing a further ego-crisis for him. February 2005 sees the return of Neptune square his Sun (repeating mid August through September, mid November through December 2005). This spells low morale, low physical energy, circumstances which don’t permit success. Not a time to fly high, make career achievements or fast forward progress."

And this one, my very fav...

..."Uranus trines Neptune from April 2004 onwards for a year which will make for a highly strung, distrustful relationship. Into 2005 Pluto trines Uranus altering the relationship between Blair and the UK population totally."

Come onnnnn Pluto... regeneration time...

More Fiore - Bush travels...

http://www.sfgate.com/comics/fiore/

Help is on the way....Mass Extinction Comes
Every 62 Million Years....

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/03/10/MNGFIBN6PO1.DTL&type=printable

i think one hugely explosive item that uranus will bring out is the deviance of members of the press. i saw one leading print journalist interviewed and when gannon was mentioned, his face contorted and stayed that way. what a come-uppance for these lazy, anti-intellectual jerks.

it will invole some right wing personalities, talk radio, and also some network press folks and will be "gannon"-like.

remember, i was right about the red sox! (and ami i sorry about that, sox fans are even worse winners than they are losers)

My money's on you, Mike...

Let Uranus bring the truth... can't wait...

Wasn't it here that Dan Rather's words were posted, from a mideast interview, stating in so many words how afraid the press is to tell the truth here in the U.S.? Unfortunately, he closed with the words that * was his president and he had to follow the rules. However, the fact that he said what he said was a starting point. Apparently he is still going to do reports for 60 Minutes. I think he is probably getting pretty fed up with the situation, as is Dowd, Klugman, Olbermann, and many other journalists. Uranus should help the rebellion of the press.

Mercury hot spots MA, ME and Canada...

http://www.truthout.org/issues_05/printer_030905EC.shtml

Sally, you are right - Arnie's on the run....

http://www.truthout.org/issues_05/030905LA.shtml

Senator Byrd is Correct to Equate Bush With Hitler

by Harvey Wasserman

03/09/05 "Information Clearing House" - - The U.S. Senate's senior Constitutional scholar has correctly equated Bush with Hitler, and the usual attack dogs are howling. But they are wrong, and Americans must now face the harsh realities of an increasingly fascist and totalitarian GOP. Continued.

Octogenarian Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia made the equation in the context of Bush's attack on Senate procedures which might slow or halt his on-going attempt to pack the courts with extreme right-wing fanatics. Byrd said Bush's moves to destroy time-honored Senate rules parallel Hitler's ramming fascist legislation through his gutted Reichstag. "Hitler never abandoned the cloak of legality," said Byrd. "He recognized the enormous psychological value of having the law on his side. Instead, he turned the law inside out and made illegality legal."

Anti-Defamation League Director Abraham Foxman has played the holocaust card for the Republicans, saying "It is hideous, outrageous and offensive for Senator Byrd to suggest that the Republican Party's tactics could in any way resemble those of Adolph Hitler and the Nazi Party.

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http://207.44.245.159/article8222.htm

Butt Prints In The Sand

Because in life, there comes a time,
When one must fight, and one must climb,
When we must rise and take a stand,
Or leave our butt prints in the sand.
~~author unknown

By Sheila Samples

03/09/05 "Information Clearing House" - - It's time. Before this obscene, gaping hole gets any deeper, it's time we convinced the media to stop digging. As someone once said...and said...and said -- time is not on our side. Storm clouds are gathering on the dashboard of our democracy. We must act, sooner rather than later -- before we are faced with sudden horror like we've never known before. I couldn't agree more, because when you consider the media horror show of the last four years, it could get hairy out there unless we wake up, stand up, and do something about it...

It's time we told the media it's either them -- or us. We need to pass them by, boycott their advertisers, protest them -- shake them until their teeth rattle. It's time we realized there is no entity more to blame for the mess we're in nor for the needless loss of life than our shameless and treasonous media. The media is even more obscene than Bush and the glowering, power-mad warmongers who surround him in both his administration and in his Congress.

(more)

http://207.44.245.159/article8223.htm

Half a million gather for pro-Syrian rally to defy vision of US

By Robert Fisk in Beirut

03/09/05 "The Independent." - - It was a warning. They came in their tens of thousands, Lebanese Shia Muslim families with babies in arms and children in front, walking past my Beirut home. They reminded me of the tens of thousands of Iraqi Shia Muslims who walked with their families to the polls in Iraq, despite the gunfire and the suicide bombers.

And now they came from southern Lebanon and the Bekaa to say they rejected America's plans in Lebanon, and wanted - so they claimed - to know who killed Rafiq Hariri, the former prime minister murdered on 14 February, and to reject UN Security Council Resolution 1559 which demands a Syrian withdrawal from Lebanon and the disarmament of the Hizbollah guerrilla movement, and to express their "thanks" to Syria. This was a tall order in Lebanon.

But only 100 yards from the Lebanese opposition protests, the half-million - for that was an approachable figure, given Hizbollah's extraordinary organisational abilities - stood for an hour with Lebanese flags, and posed a challenge to President George Bush's project in the Middle East. "America is the source of terrorism", one poster proclaimed. "All our disasters come from America".

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http://207.44.245.159/article8217.htm

George W. Bush - The 13th Shi'a Imam
By William O. Beeman
t r u t h o u t | Perspective

Monday 07 March 2005

Iran's security chief, Hassan Rowhani proclaimed in October, 2004 that it was in Iran's best interest for George W. Bush to be re-elected over John Kerry. His comment left American commentators stunned in disbelief. However, it is now clear that Rowhani was right: the Bush administration has done more than any other American leader to advance the interests of Shi'a Islamic political leadership in Iran and indeed, in the rest of the Middle East. Some groups of religious supporters in Iran are beginning to call President Bush "the 13th Imam," an ironic reference to the 12 historical Imams sacred to the branch of Shi'ism dominant in Iran, Iraq and Lebanon.

President Bush's support for Shi'ism may be unintentional, to be sure, but there is no doubt about the effects of his administration's policies in boosting Shi'ite power throughout the region.

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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/printer_030805F.shtml

March 14, 2005 Issue
Copyright © 2005 The American Conservative

The Stillborn Empire

by Patrick J. Buchanan

Did I miss something? Where did all the “not since Rome” bombast, talk of America’s “benevolent global hegemony,” “Pax Americana,” and the New World Order disappear to? Whatever happened to the “jodhpurs and pith helmets” crowd?

Just a year ago, in the Irving Kristol Lecture at the annual AEI dinner, columnist Charles Krauthammer rhapsodized about America’s “global dominion” and our having “acquired the largest seeming empire in the history of the world.”

We have “overwhelming global power,” said Krauthammer. We are history’s “designated custodians of the international system.” When the Soviet Union fell, “something new was born, something utterly new—a unipolar world dominated by a single superpower unchecked by any rival and with decisive reach in every corner of the globe. This is a staggering new development in history, not seen since the fall of Rome. ... Even Rome is no model for what America is today.”

Well, reality does have a way of intruding upon one’s fantasies, and, looking at our world today, it would seem multipolarism is making quite a comeback.

(more)

http://amconmag.com/2005_03_14/print/buchananprint.html

Budget deficet rises to record in February

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=02WGZRHXQMO34CRBAEKSFEY?type=businessNews&storyID=7869239

Land of “Murka”

Part II of II - Part I Here

The Fundamentalist Threat

By Manuel Valenzuela

03/10/05 "Information Clearing House" - - To live in Murka is to see firsthand its degeneration into an emerging Christian theocracy, with its collection of televangelists, cult leaders, mullahs and Taliban, nothing more than corruption-filled, hypocrite-behaving, masterminds of pervasive ignorance, false prophets and preachers drunk off the liquor of fundamentalist thought misguiding tens of millions of lost souls through the chalice of brainwashed and unenlightened thinking.

Commanding the attention of born again, salvation-seeking, messianic and Armageddon-searching souls in need of finding their way past the fires of hell and into the gates of heaven, these wolves dressed in sheep skin embrace principles of extremist belief and fanatical dogma. The flock of sheeple succumbing to the distortions, deceptions and delusions of their dangerously unwise shepherd leaders follow blind, deaf and dumb, disregarding all semblance of rational thought and analytical thinking in their discarding of common sense and proven scientific fact.

(more)

http://207.44.245.159/article8227.htm

The invisible wounded

Injured soldiers evacuated to the U.S. never arrive in the light of day -- and the Pentagon has yet to offer a satisfactory explanation why.

By Mark Benjamin

03/08/05 "Salon.com" - - In January 2000, then Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman Gen. Henry Shelton told an audience at Harvard that before committing troops, politicians should make sure a war can pass what he called the "Dover test," so named for the Air Force base in Delaware where fallen soldiers' coffins return. Shelton said politicians must weigh military actions against whether the public is "prepared for the sight of our most precious resource coming home in flag-draped caskets."

It's widely known that on the eve of the Iraq invasion in 2003, the Bush administration moved to defy the math and enforced a ban on photographs of the caskets arriving at Dover, or at any other military bases. But few realize that it seems to be pursuing the same strategy with the wounded, who are far more numerous. Since 9/11, the Pentagon's Transportation Command has medevaced 24,772 patients from battlefields, mostly from Iraq. But two years after the invasion of Iraq, images of wounded troops arriving in the United States are almost as hard to find as pictures of caskets from Dover. That's because all the transport is done literally in the dark, and in most cases, photos are banned.

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http://207.44.245.159/article8224.htm

Sharon...Greg Palast published the Dan Rather interview in London Observer, I believe...equating what happened to him (and others) with 'necklacing' in South Africa...where burning tires were put around the neck of victims..

The Fundamental Right You Don't Have
by Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr., TomPaine.com
     Think the 2004 election was a mess? Things will just get worse unless voting is made a citizenship right.
http://www.tompaine.com/articles/the_fundamental_right_you_dont_have.php

Privatization's Big Winner
by Jack Rasmus, In These Times
     Finally, someone explains the real beneficiaries of Bush's nutty Social Security scheme. Hint: It's not you or your neighbors.
http://www.tompaine.com/opinion/#004050

Open Season On Consumers
by Arianna Huffington, TomPaine.com
     The Senate just took a cheap shot at financially troubled consumers.
http://www.tompaine.com/articles/open_season_on_consumers.php

Four Freedoms
by Matthew Yglesias, The American Prospect
      Why liberals can cheer progress abroad without endorsing Bush's foreign policy.
http://www.tompaine.com/opinion/#004046

http://first-draft.com/

Conyers speaks about "Jeff Gannon"...

“We’re aiming at one piece of information,” Conyers said. “Who in the White House knew that Jeff Gannon was an assumed name, was not a legitimate journalist and was merely a shill for the Administration, for more than two years, nearly three years?

“I am surprised and pleased as many members of the media are looking by in amazement as we look at a person who actually has flouted the very basic fundamentals of our society in terms of gaining access into the White House,” he added.

Does he think the White House is hiding something?

“That’s putting it mildly, my friend,” he quipped.

“It’s very hard to get press credentials to go into the White House,” he explained. “As a matter of fact, you have to reapply every time you go there. And he has been doing this for years. Somebody must know who he really is and we want to know who that somebody is.”

“We want to trace these bread crumbs of facts to what office, what person or persons in the White House have been letting him get through the very strict investigation that they give press people before the let them come into the White House to talk with the President of the United States,” he continued.

“Others are joining in with us because now it’s become clear that agencies of the government are going to stonewall to prevent us from knowing what their relationship with Jeff Gannon really is,” he said.

...and Lindsey Graham

Rep. Conyers also became the first congressman to weigh in on remarks made by Sen. Lindsey Graham Saturday, in which Graham told Tennessee residents, “We don’t do Lincoln Day Dinners in South Carolina. It’s nothing personal, but it takes awhile to get over things.”

Conyers, Dean of the Congressional Black Caucus, said Graham was clearly referencing slavery.

“What Senator Graham was saying,” Conyers told RAW STORY, “if we take it [at] face value it seems very clear that it’s referring to the legacy of slavery and second class citizenship that had been the cause of the civil war itself.”

http://www.roryoconnor.org/blog/

Free Speech Impediment

David E. Kelley – the Emmy Award-winning creator of such memorable series’ as Picket Fences, Doogie Howser M.D., Ally McBeal, Boston Public, The Practice, and its current spin-off, Boston Legal – is probably the most prolific and successful writer/producer now working in television. Coupled with the fact that he is married to film star Michelle Pfeiffer, Kelley’s talent makes him one of the most influential people in the entertainment world. But apparently even Kelley’s power pales before the might of Disney and the MausHaus.

Case in point: the next episode of Boston Legal, to be broadcast Sunday March 13 on the Disney-owned ABC network. AlterNet has acquired both the original and the revised script for this episode from a source who prefers to remain anonymous. The original penned by Kelley focused in large measure on Fox News and its loofah-loving star Bill O’Reilly. The script also featured substantial excerpts from the independent film Outfoxed, which documents how the allegedly “fair and balanced” cable channel acts as a propaganda arm for the Republican Party and other conservative interest groups.

But the final script – the one that was actually shot for the show that will appear on Sunday – has been thoroughly scrubbed on orders from top ABC network executives, and all mention of Fox News and O’Reilly has been sent down the Memory Hole.

Why was the original script, which ironically centered on issues of free speech, censored?

Kelley won’t say why the changes were made – and no one at his production company, his producing partner 20th Century Fox, ABC or even Fox News is talking.

But a comparison of the original script and the censored script speaks for itself. In the original, Chi McBride (principal of the high school featured in Kelley’s previous hit Boston Public) installs a “Fox Blocker” on every television set in his school, on the entirely reasonable grounds that what appears on Fox News is not news but in fact “hate speech.” One of his students, Stuart Milch, believes McBride’s decision to be censorship, and takes his case to the attorneys of Boston Legal.

Here’s a taste of what millions of viewers will now miss next Sunday:

More...

WV - That Sheila Samples articles is so powerful, too good to be missed. As I'm sure you won't mind I'm going to post it on DU.

Dollar Under Fire from All Sides

By Jamie McGeever and Nick Olivari
NEW YORK (Reuters) - The dollar extended its slide against most currencies on Thursday on concerns over global central bank reserve diversification, a widening U.S. trade deficit and this week's dive in bond prices.

Having slumped to multi-month lows against its major counterparts on Wednesday, the dollar suffered another blow on Thursday after Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi told parliament that, generally speaking, diversity in foreign exchange reserves was a good thing.

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=businessNews&storyID=7869060

He needs to be impeached.

I think I'm gonna write a novel one day called.. "The Varmint in the White House".

Reprint permission
Author Now Suspects 'Deep Throat' Was -- Drumroll, Please

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/search/article_display.jsp?schema=&vnu_content_id=1000789447&WebLogicSession=QjDbRdjMkncFy9g6B9KSDLrq4yrGNw2SJkh7B5tPRpnyt8rjXGOk|2115704760404399988/177738807/6/7005/7005/7002/7002/7005/-1

PQOP

wv...

That was a wonderful statement by Pat Buchanan: "The stillborn Empire."

And what a beautiful poetic title.
Thank you.

Pat QoP,

Poppy was also the FIRST to suggest to Nixon that he had no choice but to resign... wrote him a letter telling him so, and presented it at a cabinet meeting, I believe it was... at least it was a group...

Poppy is also linked to Reagan's shooting through his son Neil, guess who's coming to dinner, Scott, brother of John Hinckley...

Poppy linked to Iran-Contra... pardoned the retreads who are in the * administration now... biggest mistake this country ever made was allowing those guys to get off with a wrist slap.

Poppy also linked to Bay of Pigs

Poppy also linked to JFK assassination, along with Johnson and Nixon...

Don't like my tin foil hat? Sometimes the truth is stranger than fiction...

One can hardly name ANYTHING that the *'s aren't tied to...

Jo, I think your tin foil hat is quite nice. Good style for you.

I think I just figured out something about this economic situation. All the obstacles the people are coming up against are going to force them to consume less, since that is our biggest problem... our unhealthy trade balance. We aren't producing enough, and until we do we have to import less.

I mean, trade imbalance.

I mean imbecilic trade unbalance.
We're frikkin dizzy.

Jo, dear heart, I think you should put a nice feather in that tinfoil hat of yours.

I hope, JM, that the title of your book will be, "The Varmint Who Got Run out of The White House."

Great thought, Shylurker...I believe I will feather my cap with that thought and wear it tonight.

Thanks... later

It seems everyone has a SS story to tell.......................

Check out Democracy for America......typr in a zipcode & read the stories. You will also pick up some good talking points!

http://www.democracyforamerica.com/socialsecurity/
PQOP

Here is a story about Saddam's caputure being faked. He was captured in another operation in enterily different circumstances then the capture we saw which was filmed later on as propaganda. They coverup stuff even when they dont need to these Bushies, everything is lies, spin, and misinformation. Makes Nixon look like a saint. Here is the article enjoy.
http://www.wokr13.tv/news/national/story.aspx?content_id=422B960A-26BA-4891-9E60-21C8818788D4

I woke up from a dream singing this song today, Sally. Next time, I prefer the Carpenters, please.

"NEW YORK (AP) - A federal judge Thursday dismissed a lawsuit by some 4 million Vietnamese claiming that U.S. chemical companies committed war crimes by making Agent Orange for use during the Vietnam War.

U.S. District Judge Jack B. Weinstein disagreed that allegedly toxic defoliant and similar U.S. herbicides should be considered poisons banned under international rules of war, even though they may have had comparable effects on people and land.

The Brooklyn judge also found that the plaintiffs could not prove that Agent Orange had caused their illnesses, largely because of a lack of large-scale research.

Plaintiffs' lawyers said an appeal was planned.

The lawsuit was the first attempt by Vietnamese plaintiffs to seek compensation for the effects of Agent Orange, which is laden with the highly toxic chemical dioxin and has been linked to cancer, diabetes and birth defects among Vietnamese soldiers, civilians and American veterans.

U.S. aircraft sprayed more than 21 million gallons of the chemical between 1962 to 1971 in attempts to destroy crops and remove foliage used as cover by communist forces.

Hello all-
Brilliant posts as usual and lots to read and absorb, keep 'em coming. Now, I'd like to post the text of an email I recevied---and while it's somewhat off-topic, it was written by an Alabama preacher who understands the separation of church and state(in the context of posting the Ten Commandments in public/gov't buildings.

Ten Reasons Not To Display the Ten Commandments

Jim Evans
03-02-05
After avoiding the issue for about as long as possible, the Supreme
Court will finally take on public displays of the Ten Commandments. The
high court will review two cases this term, one involving a monument on
the Texas Capitol grounds and the other a posting of the Ten
Commandments in Kentucky courthouses. A decision should be rendered by
the end of the term in late June.

While they deliberate, let's review the Top Ten Reasons why the court
should rule against public displays of Scripture.

Number Ten. Posting the Ten Commandments endorses Protestant
Christianity. Almost all of the displays use the King James Version of
the commandments-a Protestant distinctive. Roman Catholics and
followers of Judaism use a different translation.

Number Nine. Public displays of the Ten Commandments reduce all other
religions to second-class status. Not all religions in our country are
part of the Judeo-Christian tradition. And since it is still possible
to be a citizen of this country without being a Christian, all
religions must be treated equally.

Number Eight. Displaying the Ten Commandments as a way of trying to
improve the social order reinforces a magical view of religion.
Proponents say that if we display the Ten Commandments children will
behave better in school and our nation will be blessed for
acknowledging God. Thinking this way reduces the Ten Commandments down
to the level of a lucky rabbit's foot. The impact of the Ten
Commandments comes when they are taught by faithful teachers, not when
they are dangling from a keychain.

Number Seven. Public displays of Scripture corrupt the true purpose of
religious practice. God did not send the Ten Commandments or the Sermon
on the Mount in order to "create a more perfect union." These
Scriptures represent an ideal community far more difficult to attain
than the mere democracy we struggle with.

Number Six. Public displays of Scripture corrupt the true purpose of
government. Every time in history the state has acted on behalf of God,
blood has flowed in the streets. God may work through the state as God
chooses, but that does not mean everything the state does is God's
will. Keeping church and state separate makes it possible for the faith
community to remind the state of its temporal limitations as needed.

Number Five. Public displays of the Ten Commandments are a form of
idolatry. Anytime we treat as ultimate something we have made with our
own hands, we are worshipping idols. Even if the words on the monument
are God's, the monument is ours. That's why one of those commandments
warns against graven images.

Number Four. Grouping the Ten Commandments with other historical
documents distorts the history of all. The United States was
established as a secular state not a theocracy. And Moses was not
present at the signing of the Declaration of Independence.

Number Three. Public displays of religion promote social disorder by
setting groups of people against each other. The only way America works
is if we guarantee equal freedom for everyone.

Number Two. A public display of Scripture trivializes what is supposed
to be important and profound. Do we really want our sacred texts
treated like soda pop ads?

And the number one reason the court should rule against public displays
of the Ten Commandments-God wants them written on our hearts, and
that's not going to happen just because they are on display down at the
courthouse.

James L. Evans is pastor of Auburn First Baptist Church in Auburn, Ala.
He is a scheduled speaker at the BCE's upcoming conference "Living from
the Big Bible: Reshaping American Politics.

Refreshing to read, isn't it?

Namaste and truth all,and let's continue to shine the floodlights of truth on these vile cockroaches until they have no place to hide and they are (politicially/figuratively) "exterminated"

Nancy,

Here's the answer to the mysterious visitor to
Bethesda Naval Hospital.

"DeLay Treated for Heart Condition

Thu Mar 10, 5:41 PM ET Politics - U. S. Congress

WASHINGTON - House Majority Leader Tom DeLay was treated for a heart condition Thursday at Bethesda National Naval Medical Center, his office said.

The Texas Republican was released and returned home after a series of tests. He intends to stick to his plans to go to Florida, Georgia and Texas this weekend.

Capt. Michael Curran, the head of cardiology at the hospital, said in a statement that the 57-year-old Delay, who met doctors at the Capitol and then Bethesda after experiencing minor fatigue, has a condition known as arrhythmia, or an irregular heartbeat. "

tsk. the pressure of being investigated and their finding something to pin on him is producing "panic attacks" I bet which can immitate
angina or heart attacks.

Our great friend from the North speaks again... more from Lloyd Axworthy:

~snip
Being blogged is something of a bewildering, if not bewitching, experience.
Shortly after my Open Letter to Condi Rice appeared in View from the West last week, my Blackberry began to hum. Since then, there has been a constant flow -- at times a flood -- of e-mails from around the world offering comments, compliments, critiques and even a few marriage proposals. (My wife wants to know what the trade-in value might be).

The explanation from those who know about such things is that I had been blogged -- my somewhat-cheeky chiding of the U.S. secretary of state had been picked up by various websites and chat-rooms, extending the reach of the written word far beyond the range of this newspaper's circulation.

I had certainly read often enough about the revolution in communication that was underway, and had even lectured about the potential that information technology offers for global education, fostering world-wide understanding and exchange. But until one is personally and directly impacted, as I was this week, the full power of cyberspace connection is hard to grasp."

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/westview/story/2627191p-3046245c.html

Kerry voted against the bankruptcy bill.

Justin has a piece up today on the manufactured "Cedar Revolution" and the man behind the curtain in Washington...

http://antiwar.com/justin/

Remember Abu Ghraib? Remember women and children were detained and housed in Abu Ghraib? Remember women and children were tortured and raped in Abu Ghraib? Remember this fascist regime denied they were held? Remember Riverbend wrote about the women and children?

Guiliana Sgrena was writing about the women when she was 'captured'... we still don't know who captured her. There are 'contractors' there and CIA agents... who can tell what's up and what's down anymore anywhere with all the psyc ops. But we do know she was captured and held and shot. And that her writing was controversial. And that her release was controversial.

Now comes word yet again from the former US Commander of Abu Ghraib... (in Newsday, part of the Corporate Media) about one of the children (yes there were children there...) aged 11... hear that? ELEVEN! My middle grandson is 11. Quiet, a reader, loves Harry Potter; writes poetry, watches the trees budding out, the birds feeding; loves math and video games and home cooking...

I cannot even wrap my mind around a child his age being held in prison. What kind of people are we? I have to get the hey out of this country.

-------
Prisoners at Abu Ghraib Said Included Kids

By MATT KELLEY
Associated Press Writer

March 11, 2005, 3:52 AM EST

WASHINGTON -- A boy no older than 11 was among the children held by the Army at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison, the former U.S. commander of the facility told a general investigating abuses at the prison.

Brig. Gen. Janis Karpinski did not say what happened to the boy or why he was imprisoned, according to a transcript of her interview with Maj. Gen. George Fay that was released by the American Civil Liberties Union.

http://www.newsday.com/news/politics/wire/sns-ap-iraq-child-detainees,0,3977462.story?coll=sns-ap-politics-headlines

One more excerpt from article above, in case you don't have time to read it...

"Karpinski said Maj. Gen. Walter Wodjakowski, then the No. 2 Army general in Iraq, told her in the summer of 2003 not to release more prisoners, even if they were innocent.

"I don't care if we're holding 15,000 innocent civilians. We're winning the war," Karpinski said Wodjakowski told her. She said she replied: "Not inside the wire, you're not, sir."

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My sister the fundie rapture-ready xtian told me she was happy about the elections in Iraq, and that now the people were free and no longer have to live under the awful conditions they lived when Sadaam was in power.

Fool that I am, I alway thought my sister was the brightest of my siblings.

The Guardian's Steve Bell is devastating...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/cartoons/stevebell/0,7371,1435410,00.html

International law starts to bring Washington back into the fold

Simon Tisdall
Friday March 11, 2005

Guardian

In the opinion of many legal experts, the US government broke international law when it waged war on Iraq without explicit UN backing. Unrepentant, it has reserved the right to take similar action again, unilaterally if need be.
But another key pillar of global jurisprudence - laws concerning individual liberty, dignity and human rights - is proving harder for Washington to ignore: like a sheriff with a posse of deputies, international law is slowly catching up with the Bush administration.

Despite its hostility to the international criminal court, the US may soon be forced by a UN security council majority to refer war crimes prosecutions in Sudan to the ICC. Diplomats say that would represent a big boost for supranational criminal justice.

(more)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,5145647-114659,00.html

http://www.suburbanguerrilla.blogspot.com/

CATS AND DOGS, SLEEPING TOGETHER!

Well, well, well. It's Bankruptcy Friday, and I'm nothing if not impressed - both sides of the blogosphere are working together in a last-minute push to stop the bankruptcy bill:
Yesterday I diaried a question about the possibilities of the left and right sides of the blogosphere joining together to protest the bankruptcy bill. It hit the top of the Reclist. I've since launched the kickoff over at Politology.

It has momentum: it's been picked up by InstaPundit and JustOneMinute. Tacitus and RedState have released a joint statement opposing the bill. Twenty to thirty other blogs have endorsed the statement on Politology so far.
This is a very good sign, having both right and left-wing bloggers joing together to attack this travesty. On the whole, I'm not very impressed by the opposition, but this is one of those times when I'll give them credit.

This is a very, very bad bill. Our elected officials are saying, "We can't help it, don't hate us, oh please oh please we can't stop ourselves, IT'S THE CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTION MIND CONTROL!" Well, here's the thing, morons. If all of you said no to bad legislation at the same time, who would your contributors have left to punish?

Join the fun, call your Senators today and let them know what you think of their unprincipled whoredom.

the democrats are doing better but the bankruptsy vote shows one big weekeness, THEY NEED A SIMPLE, EASY TO UNDERSTANDN IDEOLOGICAL SET OF PRINCIPLES.

there cannot be a party where the core senators, 25, vote against a bill and the senate leader and whip (reid and durbin) vot in favor. this makes no sense. the republicans wouldn't do it.

clearly, the leadership needs to get a lot of grief from actdivists and i'd encourage you to go after reid and durbin with some diplomatic but firm emails
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Sen. Durbin, D, IL, Senate Democratic Whip
http://durbin.senate.gov/sitepages/contact.cfm
Sen. Reid, D, NV, Senate Democratic Leader
http://reid.senate.gov/email_form.cfm
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Some words I plan to share:

"I don't understand how you can be a Democratic Leader when two thirds of your party differs with you on the bankruptsy bill. This bill clearly favors the wealthy and financial services companies. What kind of Democratic vote is this to support these interests at the expense of the people. I've been telling everybody I know how great the Senate Democratic leadership is, now this. Lets regroup and refocus. Banks, the ultra wealthy, and credit card companies are not our constituency."
Mr. Mike
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Have a great weekend everybody. This is such a great forum.

Friday morning Gold report:

Gold hit 444.00 this morning, dropped 10 cents and is on its way up again.

Canadian Axworthy's article made the rounds of the world via internet (thanks JM) Has anyone seen ANY mention of his editorial on cable or other US news ??

Jo, I had a long time friend that I got into an argument with her regarding the children held at AbuGhraib. She thought they should all be killed since they were muslim children trained to hate Americans. They were ruined and would never have any worth in society.
Suffice to say we haven't spoken since then, which was early on in the war. She is Not a Christian, not a fundie, kinda smells like a Republican and at one time I believed her to be a compassionate human being. I was sadly mistaken. Like your sister, I too thought she was one of the brighter ones.
A society that accepts torture of women and children is one very sick populace.
Happy Friday!!!!

Negroponte's Guards Shot Italian Secret Service
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Mike and all, I'm wondering if the Dems might have been unwise enough to bargain away the bankrupsy bill for the SS. I read this morning that SS won't even come to a vote in the Senate. Also the "Clear Skies" died yesterday.

Could this be horse trading going on behind the scenes?

Morgana posted: "...regarding the children held at AbuGhraib. [ex-friend] thot they shld all be killed since they were muslim children trained to hate Americans. They were ruined & wld never have any worth in society." [what/whose "society?"]

That's why I don't speak with blood relatives... my Soul/Mind just takes a nose dive into the pit of stomach-twisting despair & nothing makes it feel better. Let's turn it the other way to see the "logic."

Regarding ameriCO children held in mythical concentration camps/prisons of "Those People"... they shld all be killed since they were xianoid children trained to hate Islamics. They were ruined & wld never have any worth in society.

And the little ones continue to be treated as ping-pong balls for the criminally insane & viciously psychopathic.

Mike, I emailed Durban & Reid, mostly using your words (thanks for making it easy); however, I couldn't resist throwing in some compliments to Senator Reid for his work thus far. Why do you think people like these voted for this bill to limit bankruptcy? I'm not sure I understand all the repercussions as I have not read the bill, but Senator Reid, for one, does not seem like the type of person to kiss ass or be controlled by lobbyists and special interests. He must have certain reasons and I'd like to know what they are. Maybe that is what I should email him.

* Iraq [rape] revelation: There was no full legal advice - Cabinet Secretary admits invasion based on single page of A4

Britain went to [rape] on the basis of a single piece of paper setting out the legality of [raping] Iraq, the country's most senior civil servant has revealed. The Govt's case for [rape] appeared to be in tatters last night after the Cabinet Sec admitted that a parliamentary answer from Lord Goldsmith, the AG, was the final legal opinion on the case for [rape]. In an astonishing admission, Sir Andrew Turnbull disclosed that no "full" legal advice on [rape] of Iraq has ever existed.

He confirmed that a short parliamentary answer by the AG was the "definitive advice" on [rape] sent to the PM & that "there is no other version".

The renewed doubts over the legality of the conflict are a severe setback to Tony bLiar, who was hoping that Iraq wld fade as a general election issue. ... http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/story.jsp?story=618882

[Just "fade"?!?!?! What an astounding dissociated thot-thingie!! YOU GO, BRITS!!]

"The Trickster, Magician & Grieving Man: reconnecting men with Earth" by Glen A. Mazis

Foreward

...Some of us feminists have always suspected that men are capable of marvels. By this I do not mean that they can erect 7X 7 Wonders of the World--this we know already, ad nauseam. Elite males have established their names/fames in monumental grandeur, much tot he detriment of the majority populations of women, workers, children, people of "other" color, & Earth creatures & elements exploited & denuded in the process. But this list of the despised of the Earth rarely incl that odd assortment of males not necessarily subj to servitude but nonetheless variously marginalized & repressed, persecuted or crucified for their resistance to the war-&-monument-makers: the pacifists, the egalitarians, the artists, the defenders of women, the unorthodox mystics, the friends of the Earth. This species of alternative male seems to be proliferating just now, at the end of the millennium.

[This author pulls no punches... & after the initial chapters, sees great hope.]

Wonderful letter from a Gold Star Mother.....

http://forum.truthout.org/blog/story/2005/3/11/93730/3285

The DLC is at it again....

The middle fights backs

The "Democratic wing of the Democratic Party" may have taken over the Democratic National Committee, but Howard Dean and his supporters haven't exactly purged the party of those who think that being a little more like George W. Bush could help the Democrats return to power.

In a new essay, the leaders of the centrist Democratic Leadership Council argue that Democrats must show voters that "any American who believes in security, opportunity, and responsibility has a home in the Democratic Party." And Bruce Reed and Al From say it's not just a matter of talking the talk. When they're not sniping at Dean -- whose new role they dismiss as that of "chief cheerleader for the party" -- Reed and From say that Democrats must show their middle-of-the-road ways by pushing for a muscular foreign policy aimed at making Americans safe. Reed and From also argue that it's time for the Democrats to start winning the culture war by moving to the right on some social issues.

"The last two elections were all reflex, all the time -- deflecting Republican charges on same-sex marriage, guns, and abortion," Reed and From write. "The best way to stop having the same old phony debate on cultural issues is to force a real one on issues that matter: strengthening families, helping parents teach kids right from wrong, coupling rights with responsibilities, and asking all Americans to give something back to their country. Americans in the heartland will stop thinking Democrats look down on them once we demonstrate that we honestly understand their concerns. Parents are right to worry about the coarsening of the culture, and about needing more time with their children."

Democrats in Congress are getting the move-to-the-middle message, and it's not just the much-villified Joseph Lieberman. In a speech this week, Hillary Clinton spoke out against sex and violence in video games and other entertainment marketed to kids, then joined Lieberman and Republican Sens. Sam Brownback and Rick Santorum in proposing legislation that would require the government to study the impact of the media on young children.

-- Tim Grieve

check out that NYT piece WV posted above re Italian reporter shooting ---

If the fascists are going to create stories, they need to do better. So Negroponte was enroute to the airport and they had to set up a quick makeshift checkpoint? Well, what does that have to do with the assault on the Italians? The Italians had a "pass" which means the US military knew they were traveling to the airport. It was a tank by the way that approached the vehicle and started raining shots down on them... according to Sgrena, as published in the Italian newspapers. And where was Negroponte headed that he need a clear highway (shoot first? ask questions later, or not?). I thought his job was Governor of our newest state, Iraq. Leaving the job so soon?

Oh I believe the name Negroponte belongs in the NYT's article all right. Death squads are his speciality.

That article is about the most pathetic piece of journalism I have read in some time... It added nothing to the story or information we haven't already had, with the exception of "Negroponte" and his name was dropped and that was that. No wonder Jim/Jeff can get in the WH press room... you don't have to be a journalist these days... just have access to a newspaper.

Christian Left getting back into the fight....

The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments:
Shortcut to: http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/03/10/religious_left/print.html

http://first-draft.com/

Scroll down on the page- it has pictures:

Not everyone loves Condi.

Outside [Foreign Secretary Luis Ernesto] Derbez's office, a small group of anti-U.S. protesters hurled tomatoes at a photo of Rice, then unsuccessfully targeted a car with her inside as it pulled away.

A protestor throws a tomato as U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice (news - web sites) leaves a meeting with Mexican Foreign Secretary Luis Ernesto Derbez in Mexico City, Thursday March 10, 2005.

Condi, I'm sure parents are so proud!

Excuse me that should be: Condi, I'm sure your parents are so proud.

The White House has its propaganda machine cranking out the temporary checkpoint in all the newspapers.

Here's a Turkish account that says Negroponte was going to the airport to have a dinner meeting with a ground commander. 'Scuse me! Worse place in the world for good food, right? Seriously, that's one of the stories. Seems Negroponte was to go by helicopter, but it was busy, so at last minute the extra checkpoints were set up (one 700 yards from the airport). Course, Negroponte FLEW by copter BACK TO THE GREEN COMPOUND after dinner.
(So his story goes.)

http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=38449

An exclusive on Telegiornale 1 (TV News on RAI 1) showed this evening images of the car, a gray metallic Toyota, in which Giuliana Sgrena and Calipari were traveling to Baghdad when they encountered fire from U.S. soldiers. In the segment, you see two bullet holes in the windshield on the side of the driver; the rear window is completely smashed as is the glass on the passenger side. Those who have seen the other images, said Clemente Mimun in a direct from TG 1, affirm that the auto was struck by a dozen projectiles, of which there is a trace on the carpeting in the interior of the car. The left front tire is flat.

"The street that we were traveling when we were hit was an alternate route, not the road where there usually are attacks", the journalist from Manifest said in an interview on Ballaro'. She recalled, "it was considered a zone under absolute control of the Americans, so much so that there were tanks. However", she added, "we didn't feel safe. So when the driver told us that we were only 700 meters from the airport, this reassured us because I knew that the airport was secure. Therefore, we did everything to arrive there as quickly as possible." Ms. Sgrena then reasserted that the auto was traveling "at a normal speed, slow, also because right at that point there was a curve."

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/3/8/185452/9893

Photos of the car

http://www.repubblica.it/2003/e/gallerie/cronaca/autosgrena/autosgrena.html

So, the front, engine --- appears to be intact, not 'shot through' as US military claimed. The tire was shot through, so the car obviously stopped, why shoot the windows out? Unless you intend to kill the occupants?

Elementary, my dear Watson.

"It's Friday, dump that story... they'll buy it. If they see it."

Morgana, Joanna,

I am really conflicted about my sister. Love her dearly, but can't talk to her... not about anything outside our Dad and grandchildren. She's coming to visit the first of April... first time I've seen her since our Mom passed three years ago. I will be sick from the stress by the time she leaves, I am sure...

So, brought the grands to the woods for a long weekend... they found my marbles (I thought I had lost them!) and we're all busy now playing marbles...

Pallas, thanks for the gold update. Mike and Abilene, Kudos to you both for making those elected accountable... we're going to have to hold their feet to the fire.

Meanwhile, I am going to walk in the woods and play in the treehouse this weekend. The trees are budding, daffodils are blooming along with the forsythia... and we restocked the doublestuff oreos... (the eight year old reminds me that a party is not a party without pickles, so one last run, and we're set!)

Happy Weekend!

Namaste

So, Jo, for the rest of us who have been accused of "losing our marbles", where did you find yours?

ba-da-bum! :-)

I have often thought of Caligula in association with the pResident, but the younger one, not DaddyBush.
"Caligula's real name was Gaius. He earned the nickname, "Caligula" (which roughly translates to "Little Boots") at age 2, when he appeared in front of the army in a miniature version of the full military outfit including army boots, or "caliga". He hated his nickname, and during his reign he punished anyone whom he caught using it."
Googled the above

I don't know, wv, but I see the point of Reid and other Democrats (which doesn't mean I agree with Reid's vote on bankruptcy law). There are an awful lot of people who want to make sure they have trustworthy leaders with good values who CAN keep us safe. It's understandable after 9/11. I have read books about the Jihad platform and it's been going on in the form of bombing U.S. embassies and similar places since the early 70s. I know they have valid reasons to dislike us and want us out of their lives, and, I don't know what to think about the theory that 9/11 was engineered by the U.S., but it's not like there wasn't a precidence set before 9/11.

I also thought Reid made a good point when he stated that we have to concentrate on real issues and concerns, not manufactured ones. In that way, we can win over moderates who will see that the Rush Limbaugh hyperbole about Liberals is just not real(as well as the lies the people currently attacking the AARP as a liberal organization).

Jo, I feel for you in your situation with your sister and I hope this doesn't come off as too much of a lecture, but I'd like to say a few things. Seek common ground, and maybe find some real humor or meaningful things to share together. Make up your mind that NOTHING is important enough to disturb your peace of mind. And if that doesn't work, avoid her!!!! But humor works wonderfully. I used to watch my mom use it and she was just a master. She'd make faces towards someone, like a little kid, when they weren't looking (or give them the finger) and then when they turned around, she's just agree with them. She would crack me and my aunt up. It was better than confrontation. But she was great at doing that with humor, too. People never knew what hit them, she could be so disarming. It's a good spiritual practice, too. Make up your mind to not engage. Meanwhile, enoy Spring! You are very lucky to live in such a beautiful place and have children to play with. That's what's important in life. So, choose your disagreements VERY carefully and if there is something serious to discuss, think about it and then do it quietly, honestly, respectfully, and with friendliness, humor and compassion if at all possible. But sometimes it's better to avoid.

Good luck,
Sharon

Jo, my sister was a democrat but voted for Bush because he keeps us "safe." We can talk about everything but politics although she is opposed to changes in social security, bankruptcy, aid to the poor, etc. It's all I can do to keep from screaming "you voted for him, I didn't." I'm heartsick about it.

Dear AW'ers -

In case you are unaware Sally has been hacked again, and has no way of getting to the site or
reading your posts...and there will be no new
articles for awhile.

gosh. I hope you see how much you add to our little world Jo, because we all feel for you about your sister situation. I don't have any sisters, just 3 brothers, and I've kinda been all alone in my life. My mom spent my childhood drugged out, trying, but you know the 70's-have a valium- mentality. My daughter is terrific, but 20, and I want her to have HER life, whatever she decides that will be. So....., I hope you know that you are lucky to have a sister, even if you don't share political views. Because you do still share your history, in only the ways that a woman can feel & relate to. Please forgive any "lecturing mentality" I know this sounds like because I really just want you to know we're all thinking of you & trying to ease some of the difficulty. Hugs, flowers, love, good food, music, and all the best to you during her stay.

Good Reading....

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/

wv, thanks for telling us. Does this cost Sally money? I don't know anything about what it takes to maintain a website, but I've donated to Sally because I love her & her writings and everything this site adds to my life. I'll be glad to donate again if it helps............?

Unfortunately Peg, it all costs money.

Jo, I'm sending you my best thoughts.

Thanks for the heads up wv.

WV

could you please explain what has happened?

has Sally's personal computer been hacked?

virus? what's going on?

thanks in advance.

Yes, her personal computer has been hacked again,
and may have to be rebuilt. Has no idea who or
how but it happened a couple of days ago.
She can't seem to connect with this site. Has no
idea how long she will be down. But she did say
it is full of viruses (?), more I cannot tell you.
her son who knows computers is in SD for a funeral.
More I cannot tell you as I don't know.But she is
afraid she may lose a lot of info.

Momma told her there would be days like this,
Momma did. She was born Nov. 18, l942 in Kansas
you may look at her chart to see what is going on.

The best of enemies....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,5146504-103677,00.html

Absolutely wonderful thread on DU

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=245&topic_id=4993&mesg_id=4993

Be sure to read all the comments.

WV - Does she need donations to flow in?

donation sent. no further info. necessary.

WV,

find out if she has Norton Utilities and tell her to run it...

then these three are free online and work wonders

Sygate firewall - you can trace back the hacker and/or halt the action

Spybot
Spyblaster
and also AVG Free Edition for email and viruses.

Some comments on sexual abuse.

I'm referring to several posts about the Bush daughters. Some were speculating that probably Jenna but possibly also Barbara had been sexually abused by their father, George.

Someone also wondered if maybe they had been abused by their grandfather, GHW Bush, since he has been suspected of being a pedophile.

Youngsters who have been abused often show signs of abuse. They may become depressed or suicidal. Often they act out and engage in sexually explicit behavior.

I've seen several photos of Jenna over at the DU which were very promiscuous. These were "bar photos" where she had been drinking heavily, and acting out in the bar. Later, she was laying out on the sidewalk, too drunk to walk.

Her short skirt was completely pulled up. Her legs were spread out (which is a very strange way to lay if you are drunk -- you would almost flop over to the side instead) with the panties just barely covering her private parts.

Both girls seem to engage in a lot of drunken and embarrassing behavior towards their father. They've probably been told many times to quit drinking out in public, but they keep repeating it. Jenna is most probably an alcoholic/substance abuser.

Of course, a lot of this could be due to the dysfunctional home with an active alcoholic -- their dad. Laura seems to fit the Co-dependent, enabling wife.

Her own personality seems to have been sandpapered off. All that's left is a shell of a person. Her frozen smile, her empty-headed statements and mannerisms all show she is a typical Al-Anon wife.

If she knew about the abuse, she probably shut it out completely from herself, because co-dependent wives are frozen in their own behaviours.

I'm not a psychologist, but I've read plenty about the family disease of alcoholism. Judging from what I've read, this family fits the pattern.

I've seen photos of the other Bush children, and Jeb's daughter (who is a prescription drug addict) who looks like she is in so much pain. The other kids seem to be into criminal behavior too. It would not surprise me if Grandfather was an abuser.

Alcoholism counselors say that the one who stands the best chance to get help is Laura. Hard to tell, but chances are she won't get help. The disease itself has a very low remission rate: out of 10 alcoholics, 9 will die from the disease.

Too bad. Too bad for the rest of us that they're in the White House.

Sally,
So sorry you are experiencing problems with your computer. Sending light to you... hope the problem is resolved soon. Namaste.

Couple of words about security. You can download free a program that will remove spyware from your system. Lavasoft Ad-aware is available free at Download.com (a reputable website, been around for years, no virus here). You can view info at Lavasoft's website... a Swiss firm developed the spyware removal program. You can get a 'sentry' at the gate, in other words, it will guard against entry of spyware, by paying for the program and installing the embellished version. See http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/

Here's a link to news about a recent malware that really messes up a system.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/03/11/alternative_slimeware/

I have Norton Systemworks on my computer because I have always thought Norton to be the best. My daughter, who is computer savvy tells me it slows down the system... and she prefers McAfee, which has apparently souped up their system in the past year. I had it temporarily when we got Dell year before last (yuckie... prefer Tiger parts and building by own tower!) and I didn't like it at all, but daughter says it is improved and good. I use Norton's firewall (again, daughter says it slows system down, but I'm super careful, don't mind slow... really don't like 'crash') and I back up my journals and genealogy files. This Christmas I asked for and got an external hard drive that backs up the system continuously, for about $89. Norton systemworks has a "go back" feature --- every time you boot up it captures the image of your system, so if you crash, it can reformat at last image point.

There's a lot of virus and spyware out there, so if you use your system for storing your writing or important documents, accounting and otherwise, you really need to BACKUP. On floppies or CDs... or something. You can always reformat the hard drive if you get too virus infected, but you will lose everything, and you have to reinstall all your programs.

I don't mean to insult anyone's intelligence... most of you are computer-friendly, just want to give you some info you might not have. Namaste

American jihadists are gullible --- psychological study shows non-skeptics in America believe first story (translate 'lie') not retraction. [That ought to re-affirm what you already know... that's the 40% that voted for *, right?]

..."The results showed there were far fewer sceptics in the US than in Germany and Australia. And that such sceptics were less likely to believe statements that they knew had been retracted than those people classified as non-sceptical."

Does that come as a 'surprise' to anyone?

------------

Asian Times online: Dollar gets Asian flu

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/GC12Dj01.html

Peg, Sharon,
Thank you for your concern... my sister and I have a good, strong relationship... there's 13 years between ages, so I'm more her 'mama' than her sister, and with the passing of our Mom, I became more aware of that. The problem of close proximity is more mine than hers... she speaks her mind, whether you like it or not... and her 'truth' is THE truth. I used to just shut my mouth when she was simply trying to save my soul. But the politics is different... she worked actively with the Freepers to get us into Iraq... and she continues to support everything * does. Again, I can live with that, as long as she is not 'in your face' --- but she can't help herself. She's a 'crusader' and when she's here she WILL say something --- I know she will... her pattern is to send me an email, full of her 'truth'... I respond after a few days with 'you know we disagree, so please don't send anymore blah, blah...' She will stop for a short time and then repeat the pattern...

Now, you all know how OPINIONATED I am... just imagine, if you can... me, with my mouth shut. Yeah I know, impossible you say. But I can do that and I will do that... but it will make me sick. that's what I am talking about. Imagine having a 'freeper' in you home... and being quiet. She's my sister and I love her, not her personality. Period. My problem is to 'let it be' and not get sick over it... I'm still working on that one... got a few hundred more lifetimes to polish it up, I'm sure. Namaste

Great posts all! And Jo. . .let's just say i empathize. You love her but. . .

Would someone please email me with Astroworld's snail mail address so i might contribute to this site?

Thank YOU!!!!!

karen

WV,
Thanks for the link above at l:07 a.m.

The first article by Jay Bookman... he's with the Atlanta Journal Constitution... a really great guy... during the run up to the invasion (which is when this article was written) he was one of the Corporate Media I emailed... he actually answered my email!!! So, kudos to him...

there's a wealth of info in the link you posted... some of us here might want to review...

thanks for posting it...

Good mornign Astro World!

Sally asked me to pass on that "There will be a new thread up today. Also tell them I said "Momma said there would be days like this".

Ahhh, the joy of acceptance. I sigh for Sally.

I do, too...sigh for Sally that is.

But maybe it's just a breather. I get the feeling that the hard work is beginning to pay off.

Yeahhhhhhh, Sally,

Momma also said "Can't keep a good woman down!" Momma said!

Just read that Karen Hughes is being nominated for a State Post, undersecretary of state for public diplomacy and public affairs, I think. Does anyone have her birth info? Perhaps she'll get slammed by Saturn like her good friends George and Condi.

Sally says she has Libra on the ASC and Sag on
the cusp of the third house...she can get email
about every hour and a half but cannot connect to
AW...

Donations would be nice and much appreciated, Positive Fusion is switching to a new type of system (because of the increased issues with hackers on everyone's site.) Just about all providers are doing so, it's become quite a problem for everyone with a blog.

My son returns tonight so that's helpful.
He has done all of what Pallas suggested and I really appreciate her suggestions. I have to get a new hard drive and everything has to be taken off and re built. I am extremely fortunate to have someone who can fix it and it would have been done by now, but he is just out of town, he had to go to a funeral.
I so appreciate everyone's concern and kind words, makes me feel like I have the flu and people are bringing chicken soup.

She is able to communicate through her laptop, so
if you write her at mcdonaldsa@qwest.net she can
send you her address for donations. She sends her
love to all.

After the Varmint in the White House is completed, I'm going to tackle another one:

"A Freeper in the Family"

Sounds like a gothic horror, but it might end up to be some kind of survival guide.

I have a brother who became a Jew for Jesus and entered into Biblical madness. One night he was frothing at the mouth and screaming about Israel, war, and my alleged bad manners. I realized it was advisable to reroute. He's no longer following Jesus, he's calmed down somewhat with his multimillions, but our paths seldom cross. We have occasional cordial phone conversations, and sometimes I feel a flicker of affection.
He's very busy.

WOW - a hard drive. That's expensive. And to rebuild from scratch. I think I'd sit down and cry.

I also had McAfee and Lavaware but found they screwed up my computer so I gave them up..

And even Norton which is supposed to be so wonderful wasn't...it let viruses in.

And you all know what GhostSurf did to my computer...
three weeks of work to get it up again, and lost most of my hundreds if not thousand horoscopes in
Solfire. Still looking for a way to get them back.

To do Bill Clinton's chart I had to start from scratch...all the political stuff gone. {: (pouting)

So those freebies have done more than NOrton and
McAfee which I paid for. Especially Sygate free personal firewall. I recommend it to all.

Oh ,VERY IMPORTANT there's one other thing...to check if you have ports open that can be hacked,

go to www.grc.com (gibson research)

he has free tests which take seconds but will tell you if your ports are open and can be entered by hackers...then he has something you run that will close them.

Before Sally got disconnected she told me Morgana is next up writing a column , and then I am writing a similar column to Morgana's -

Who will we send it to, to get posted?

Ouch, Sally! I'm sorry to hear about your computer. There are few things more annoying in the online world than people who have nothing better to do with their time than cause others to waste theirs and spend money to fix the damage. Hackers and virus makers are the worst!

I know you won't be able to read this for awhile, but for Nancy or anyone who is able to speak with Sally, or for anyone in general who is concerned about their computer security online, I highly recommend if you have a DSL/Cable connection to skip the Firewall software and buy a good Router. A Router acts as a firewall, but is infinitely more secure, much lower maintennance and a lot less trouble than any firewall software you can install on your computer. A Router will serve as the "gateway" between your computer and the Internet, and is the only computer presence that people can "see" on the Internet. This means that anyone looking for trouble and trying to hack attack your computer would just get your router instead, which has no operating system to hack or infect with viruses! The Router will block out port scans and hack attempts to your computer, while allowing you to surf the Internet without any hitches.

Additionally, it's also quite useful to have a Router if you have more than one computer and you want to share Internet access between them without paying your Internet Provider more money. As I mentioned above, the Router is the only "computer" that connects with the Internet, so even your ISP can't tell any differently.

They are very reasonably priced as well. You can buy a decent Router at regular price between $30 and $50 -- for about as much money as you would spend on Norton or McAfee firewall software.

I bought and installed one in my home because we had two computers and often both in use at the same time. Naturally, the Cable company wanted to charge us an extra $10 for the additional IP Adress in use on the other computer. I did some research, however, and found out that buying a Router would let us hold onto that $10. That was about 5 years ago. Today we have 5 computers, and not a single port scan or hack attack has penetrated any of them. (It's fun going to the GRC.com Shields Up website and getting a total "stealth" rating!) We still use virus software though, because the router doesn't filter those out of e-mails and downloaded files.

In case you are interested, below is the link to the LinkSYS router I bought from RadioShack. I'm sure there are others that do the job equally as well.
http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&product%5Fid=950-1195

From 'Gook' to 'Raghead'
By BOB HERBERT

"...Mr. Delgado's background is unusual. He is an American citizen, but because his father was in the diplomatic corps, he grew up overseas. He spent eight years in Egypt, speaks Arabic and knows a great deal about the various cultures of the Middle East. He wasn't happy when, even before his unit left the states, a top officer made wisecracks about the soldiers heading off to Iraq to kill some ragheads and burn some turbans.

"He laughed," Mr. Delgado said, "and everybody in the unit laughed with him."

The officer's comment was a harbinger of the gratuitous violence that, according to Mr. Delgado, is routinely inflicted by American soldiers on ordinary Iraqis. He said: "Guys in my unit, particularly the younger guys, would drive by in their Humvee and shatter bottles over the heads of Iraqi civilians passing by. They'd keep a bunch of empty Coke bottles in the Humvee to break over people's heads."

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/02/opinion/02herbert.html?ex=1115697600&en=145c406a42c43a77&ei=5070

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