Isabelle, very interesting!! I would like to think that Bush's push to eliminate Social Security stops in its tracks, considering the Spring Equinox chart. I know they are going to push very hard the next six weeks to put out lots of propaganda to the country, and if they can't get more support they will have to drop it. I've also been hearing jabber about the U.S. attacking Syria soon so I hope that falls flat also.

On or about March 22nd has come up in chatter (reading all my yahoo-group e-mail) as a significant day. It could be terrorism but also could be a natural disaster such as an earthquake on the San Andreas fault or maybe even a Yellowstone event - or another tsunami that could affect all of us and stop the U.S. in its tracks. This particular information (hopefully it is wrong) comes from a psychic and is not astrology-based. No link to this info as yet but if I find one I will post it.

I find the Spring Equinox going "underground" rather strange also. I can imagine the government is doing lots of "hidden" stuff, but then what else is new there!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A64253-2005Mar1.html?sub=AR

Social Security Vote May Be Delayed
Critics Could Force Proposal to Change

The Senate's top Republican said yesterday that President Bush's bid to restructure Social Security may have to wait until next year and might not involve the individual accounts the White House has been pushing hard.

-more-

I already sense a slowdown and loss of momentum in this administration's forward motion. The intercepted Aries is most interesting. As is the 12th house and hidden enemies along with self undoing. Pallas mentioned that the 6th house rules the military. The south node there goes along with other predictions here of military problems. I wonder if the 29 degree Mars in Capricorn will be some change/loss in this authoritarian excess and governmental abuse.

Very clear and concise, Isabelle.

Regarding Travieso's post on the last thread about his dream of a black pope... there is, in fact, an African man who is being considered for the job. Or was at one time. I'm not sure of the current situation.

When I heard about this African guy, my heart leapt, and it was a real dream that this would come about. A veritable Pluto in Sagittarius drama. But then I came to my senses, and figured the world wasn't ready.

The draft. Something is going to have to happen to make re-installing the draft acceptable. Freaks me out.

Isabelle, This was thought provoking. While this retrograde may well exemplify the snow-drift theory (GREAT ANALOGY!) the 12th Pisces submerged energy also spurred this thought. Blogs are receiving more and more attention including mention on national newscasts. Wonder what little secrets are going to come out of the "underground" and take root after Mercury goes direct?

karen

Washington Times (the moonie paper) has a story re the "Perfect Storm" Cap'n Sally was speaking to last thread... seems USA is 'odd man out' on the planet...

http://www.washingtontimes.com/functions/print.php?StoryID=20050228-084038-2488r

Analysis: Iraq blast bursts election bubble
By Martin Sieff
UPI Senior News Analyst
Published March 1, 2005

WASHINGTON -- The devastating terror bomb blast in Hilla 60 miles south of Baghdad Monday did more than kill 122 people and injure 170 more. It also blasted to smithereens the key operating myth of the Bush administration, still comfortably embraced by much of the American people, that the successful holding of parliamentary elections in Iraq a month ago finally turned the tide there. If it did, the apparent retreat of the waves was only the prelude to a tsunami of violent rage sweeping back in.

http://www.wpherald.com/storyview.php?StoryID=20050301-115805-5262r

As for bringing "Democracy to the Middle East":

"George W. Bush's journalistic sock-puppets are hailing their own hallucinations: what's sweeping the Middle East is not a wave of capital-"D" Democracy, but a tsunami of nationalistic and religious fervor that can only redound against us.

Lebanon's "Cedar Revolution" is a case in point, one that illustrates the entirely illusory nature of the media hype – which is, unsurprisingly, identical to the U.S. government's official line. The official story is that the long-suffering peoples of Lebanon have had enough, and – drunk with the mere promise of the magical elixir of Democracy – are at last rising up, seizing their liberty, and throwing off their Syrian oppressors. It's a pretty story, albeit a bit simple-minded and hackneyed, but there's just one problem: it isn't true.

The reality is that Lebanon has had democracy for quite some time: or, at least, more so than any other Middle Eastern Arab nation. But instead of being a panacea for the country's problems, this relative excess of democracy has merely exacerbated them."

http://antiwar.com/justin/

and Juan Cole's excellent as usual commentary:

Lebanon Realignment and Syria

http://www.juancole.com/2005/03/lebanon-realignment-and-syria-it-is.html

Jo, these are great articles and reinforces what every astrologer I know is saying, it's just that some astrologers predict a different outcome to the events. But it is a "perfect storm" brewing, I just wish I knew how the "public" will react. Their reaction to what's going on has been disappointing to date.

Iraqi Health Ministry confirms use by American occupation forces of internationally prohibited weapons in its attacks on al-Fallujah

Mafkarat al-Islam

Dr Khalid ash-Shaykhli, a representative of the Iraqi Ministry of Health who was authorized to assess health conditions in al-Fallujah after the end of the major battles there, announced that the surveys and studies which a medical team did in al-Fallujah and subsequently reported to the Ministry confirm that US forces used substances that are internationally prohibited -- including mustard gas, nerve gas, and other burning chemicals -- in the course of its attacks on the city.

http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/05/02/Rumsfeld_Anklage_4.html

Afghan heroin crop threatens to flood UK
By Jason Bennetto, Crime Correspondent
02 March 2005

Britain is facing a massive influx of heroin because Afghanistan has produced its largest crop of opium since the overthrow of the Taliban.

The production of opium poppies - used to make heroin - rose by 17 per cent in the past year despite a series of international anti-drugs initiatives co-ordinated by Britain. Drug experts from the United Nations warned yesterday that Afghanistan was in danger of becoming a "narco-state" and the level of opium production was "threatening the stability of the country".

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/story.jsp?story=615995

Isabelle - An excelent article!! Very clear and consise about this Equinox chart. It sure doesn't sound good for Bushco. The 12th is also the house of self-undoing and self-deception. And the last phase of the Saturn transit through the end of Cancer will be upon us as well. Saturn on US Mercury, Inaugural IC, and Bush's Saturn are all contained within this 3 month period. I hope they trip themselves up real well!!

Looks like the Brits have our 'hero' to thank for their 'heroin' problem...

Jo - Great articles!! That one about US using prohibited weapons in Fallujah goes along with the recently posted article about depleted uranium weapons being used in both Gulf Wars. These two stories together, if the media would run with them, would crucify the bushies. maybe teh coming Uranus transit will help here!

Not sure if the DU story was posted here.

http://www.sfbayview.com/012605/headsroll012605.shtml

“Out of the 580,400 soldiers who served in GW1 (the first Gulf War), of them, 11,000 are now dead! By the year 2000, there were 325,000 on Permanent Medical Disability. This astounding number of ‘Disabled Vets’ means that a decade later, 56% of those soldiers who served have some form of permanent medical problems!” The disability rate for the wars of the last century was 5 percent; it was higher, 10 percent, in Viet Nam.
“The VA Secretary (Principi) was aware of this fact as far back as 2000,” wrote Bernklau. “He, and the Bush administration have been hiding these facts, but now, thanks to Moret’s report, (it) ... is far too big to hide or to cover up!”

Sally,
You wonder how the "public" will react. I interpret the word "public" to be the half the population that only has TV as a information source. Statistically that is the poorest and oldest parts of the population. Fortunately, despite the sliding economy, there have been tremendous sales in PCs amoung all racial and age groups. Since the late 90s colleges required new students to have their own PC. By 2010 only 1 in 8 people *won't* have access to a PC.

What I'm trying to get at is that with planets transiting the US 3rd house isn't the internet going to get to enough people to counteract the rightwing's TV influence (before Uranus leaves)? It's a fight between communication styles and who will they believe when they get both sides of the story? Maybe I'm just grasping at straws but when 42% of Jr and Sr High School kids have cell phones with text messaging it has to force the adults to learn new things. At the least the techno-wise young have influence over how the adults spend money.

http://itrs.scu.edu/instructors/dlustig/lustig/student/webpage/unitedstates.htm
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2005_Jan_7/ai_n8682432

Isabelle, thank you for another fine article. I've always felt that the Spring equinox is a powerful time of the year. (It will be my 7th wedding anniversary too!) You're last paragraph saying (basically); "see beauty, hear about hidden ugliness", can't wait.

Excellent article! I'm very curious but also somewhat apprehensive about this spring energy. My first reaction (which is usually wrong) was that we are looking at some kind of economic and finance troubles. However, I agree with the analysis of the Mercury retrograde energy. In human psychology, when there is a lot of energy and nowhere for it to go, usually the energy ends up turning against the self. It sounds like self-destructive behavior to me as a consequence of pushing too hard.

Hmmmmm, reading yet another excellent article from Isabelle regarding the Spring Equinox and the 00 degrees of signs, etc. got me to wondering how -- being born on the 20th of March and having a 00 degree Aries Sun conjunct a 00 degree North Node in Aries -- is going to handle all this stuff she mentions?!

It'll be interesting to see how the Administration and the Country collectively handle the upcoming energy and how we, personally, handle it in our own ways.

Thanks, Isabelle, for chiming in. I always enjoy your writing and am excited whenever you share with us your abilities and insight.

Bush and the Press....

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Ozone decline stuns scientests....

http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0%2C1413%2C36~53~2739235%2C00.html

Hunter S. Thompson "Tom Compare Bush to Nixon
is an Insult

http://www.rense.com/general63/nix.htm

Powerful articles WV and the last one by Hunter Thompson was stunning in its cloudless sky truth as it poured out with nothing to stop him. Wow.

Who do you trust more on Social Security: Smirky, the Dems or AARP. Pls go vote.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7068949 /

Shylurker
It's at 23% believe in dubya, 41% Dems, and 36% AARP. At least three quarters of the computer literate population don't buy(sic) his lies on SS. Does this mean they've finally hit the one economic button that is also a "wake up" button?

Canada A Haven Again....

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/printer_030205N.shtml

I hope so, Jill. But the greatest threat is the international corporate elite. They are engaged in class war of a magnitude and intricacy not witnessed before: taking all our money and reducing us to working and shopping at Wal-Mart to spend our $10/hour wages. Each time they "outsource" jobs, each time they "import" cheap goods, each time they sign one more exorbitant contract with government for goods and services (purchased with taxes we paid), each time they get laws passed that remove what few protections from them we have, each time they get one more patent, each time they buy one more media outlet, each time--well, you catch my drift. And how in the world to get the ordinary person, rushing around with all the busy-ness of daily life, to stand w-a-y back and take a hard look at what is truly happening? It's so insidious and so outrageous that it is difficult to comprehend.

Harley Sorensen -

Wead Wacking and Gannon Fodder....

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2005/02/28/hsorensen.DTL&type=printable

Arianna finds Andy Stern, Labor leader...

http://www.ariannaonline.com/columns/column.php?id=761

Charley Reese.....

The Real Lincoln

http://reese.king-online.com/Reese_20050302/index.php

One of Colin Powell's legacies...

Haiti a year later...

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/030205M.shtml

Please tell me why we never hear about these "death squads"? she naively asks...

Jonathon, intersting since I also was born March 20 with Sun at 00 degrees Aries (in the fifth house) with North Node at 18 degrees in Aries. I have a loaded Fifth with Mars in rulership in Aries and Saturn. Wow, interesting.

How do you think us two will deal with this equinox?

ok, so here's what i say about the equinox:

BRING IT ON!

this place is hot, nancy and sally in dialog and the normal great links by wv. since i'm in the neighboring (but politically inferior) state, i think i'll change my name to "v".

all right, the smart money says that there is a 10 year window beyond which global warming will get especially ugly. we tick off 4 of the 10 with the us on the sidelines. that allows the europeans to do whatever kyoto calls for. then things start getting really bad and we have to get in the game. on a global scale, that's about as optimistic as we can be.

w/in our own little corner of the globe, relax, be happy. * is going down and he's taking the fascists with him. to wit, check out dean all over the south and midwest, well received, cheering crowds; bush down to 44% (ipsos) 46% (somebody else) approval; social security 'on hold and going no where; swift boat people attacking AARP.

this is the beginning of the end. probably too late, but what the heck, we may win one to reminise over while the world turns to toast.

the "v" man

Femiphobia ~ Says a whole lot about Bush and his buddies

STEPHEN J. DUCAT DISSECTS "ANXIOUS MASCULINITY" ~ MAKING SENSE OF AMERICA'S STRUTTING ~ IN A PSYCHOANALYTIC KIND OF WAY ~

I saw the Republican National Convention as essentially a hyper-masculine strut-fest. The real point of the convention was to make John Kerry their woman.... They had already done that with John Edwards by dubbing him the “Breck girl.” And Arnold Schwarzenegger went on to proclaim that any men who were anxious about the loss of jobs under the reign of George W. Bush were, as he put it, “economic girlie-men.” The inference was that Democratic candidates who were always whining about pink slips may as well be wearing pink slips.

~A BUZZFLASH INTERVIEW~

BUZZFLASH~
In your book, The Wimp Factor: Gender Gaps, Holy Wars, & the Politics of Anxious Masculinity, you argue that the current positions and attitudes of the Republican Party and Bush Administration can best be viewed through a certain lens that we traditionally associate with the he-man, the virile figure--you call it the phallus. Briefly, how would you define "anxious masculinity?"

STEPHEN J. DUCAT~
It's a culture based on male domination and a culture in which most things feminine tend to be devalued, even if they are secretly envied. In such a culture, the most important thing about being a man is not being a woman. This powerful adult male imperative to be unlike females and to repudiate anything that smacks of maternal care taking is played out just as powerfully in politics as it is in personal life. In fact, political contests among men are in many ways the ultimate battles for masculine supremacy. This makes disavowing the feminine in oneself and projecting it onto one’s opponent to be especially important. This femiphobia--this male fear of being feminine--operates unconsciously in many men as a very powerful determinant of their political behavior. Also, this femiphobia constitutes a very significant motive for fundamentalist terrorism.

CONTINUED~
http://www.buzzflash.com/interviews/05/03/int05011.html

Dear Mr. Mike V. Well, a-l-l righty, then! We'll either make it out alive and intact or we'll all be toasted, crispy critters. Ouida May shares your optimism. Maybe it be so.

Travieso,

Awesome! I have, as I said, the Sun in Aries at 00 Degrees conjunct that 00 degree North Node, a loaded 2nd House and ... well, here's my birth info:
20 March 1969, 2:55 PM Seattle, WA You can look it up and see for yourself! :-) Kinda neat that I find a "twin", of sorts, on good ol' AW!

To all: please pardon the personal info, but I couldn't help myself. I'm really enjoying everyone's comments, though. This place IS on fire!

Jonathan

YOU GO, DUCAT!!! Sick to death of the supremacist malebot sh*t!!! ...& its fembot... ala coulter et al.

May we all be blessed with Whole-y Entire men who have transformed themselves into Real & Wonderful Creative Happy Human Beings (& its fembot). ;O)

Sid Blumenthal's keyboard is on fire again. Just go here and get your day pass (please, no snide Gucker/Gannon comments) and read it:

http://www.salon.com/opinion/blumenthal/2005/03/03/social_security/index.html

Thank you, Isabelle & thank you, Nancy, & thank you, Sally. I'm out of town and just now got back in touch with AW, which is rocking as always.

Isabelle's description of Aries energy subsumed by Neptune made me think maybe *'s (gun)powder will be damp and he won't be able to start the next phase of his mid-East oil war.

On the last thread (thanks again, Nancy) Travieso mentions the last 2 Popes as well as his recurring dreams re black Pope.

Long ago I read about an Irish monk from the Middle Ages who predicted all the future Popes in succession. The book went into detail --for example the man the monk referred to as the Rose Pope had roses featured on his coat of arms.

The last three popes, according to the monk, were supposed to be "the solidarity Pope" (the one we have now), then the "olive Pope", then the last Pope--and I forget how he was identified, but he was a disaster.

The book was old and printed before the current Pope was elected. But "solidarity Pope" seems to fit his background in Poland.

The "olive Pope" was supposed to be good for the Church and well liked.

According to the book, the monk concluded that the world would have to end after the last Pope, but, of course, I think we can muddle on without them.

Thinks Jonathon, I might just run your chart. Mine is March 20, 1968 11:00pm Lone Star, Texas.

I would like to say sorry everyone for the personal news, but Jonathon, if you click on my name you can email me.

You know Starrynights, I think its not so much male domination, but a male domination based on their own deep sense of lack of masculinity. I mean these really aren't "real men", they just "play war" to make themselves seem more masculine.

I notice this with straight men. Real striaght men, like Bill Clinton, don't really care about gay men. But, men who have sexual issues find gay men such a threat. It's not that I'm a threat, but its their own homosexual feelings that are so threatening. I do believe that Rove and others are closet homosexuals with a deep, deep sense of self-hatred.

well, ms. lurker, i'm thinking of a compromise, lightly toasted white bread with a little butter and jam. my optimism arises out of the republican effort to f'ing censor cable, that's right, cable:

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=7778185

wow, how sweet is that. just think how much better the sopranos will be w/out all those naughty words and sexual themes. clean up all of cable.

two outcomes from this craziness:

1) people will realize that even if we pay for something, "they" want the right to control our content and

2) there will be an unbelievable revolt of the teen and college age boys (and you know what i mean).

these republicans are such total idiots. censoring cable. gimme a break!

and, shylurker, guido is punching holes in walls over this one. i keep hoping he hits a stud but no luck yet. seld plaster and a trowel.

well, ms. lurker, i'm thinking of a compromise, lightly toasted white bread with a little butter and jam. my optimism arises out of the republican effort to f'ing censor cable, that's right, cable:

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=7778185

wow, how sweet is that. just think how much better the sopranos will be w/out all those naughty words and sexual themes. clean up all of cable.

two outcomes from this craziness:

1) people will realize that even if we pay for something, "they" want the right to control our content and

2) there will be an unbelievable revolt of the teen and college age boys (and you know what i mean).

these republicans are such total idiots. censoring cable. gimme a break!

and, shylurker, guido is punching holes in walls over this one. i keep hoping he hits a stud but no luck yet. seld plaster and a trowel.

Isabelle,

Well done !

I agree with Dave - something about the Spring Equinox chart speaks of financial & economic re-adjustments (read lies) which won't fly because Mercury is Retrograde.

As a matter of fact all those planets in the 12th
and Merc Retro there too - the worry is that the bad boys are re-conoitering, re-planning, the thing to do when Mercury is retro.

Saturn is square the Moon's Nodes and Mercury - so there is frustation in moving forward - makes sense with Merc Retro, but in this case it seems to me to be doubled.

But something is in this chart that bothers me more. As Isabelle mentioned Mars is opposition the Moon -but more worrisome is that if you draw the chart at DC for the moment the Sun enters Aries [7:34 AM EST] Mars is at 0 Aquarius conjunct Chiron at 1 Aquarius -- in the 4th house.

And Mars/Chiron will oppose the Moon exactly around 9:30 PM on Saturday evening March 19th, the same evening Mercury Turns Retrograde at about 7:15 PM.

Since Mars in Aquarius is associated with earthquakes, accidents, and even attacks [ in this chart set for DC Mars in the 4th rules the 7th of open enemies] , these type of
events can be expected to occur in the US.

Welcome to Spring.

Shylurker,

This is the most important thing you have ever said - and should be repeated on every website we all have access to - that should wake the "busy-bees" up.

"the greatest threat is the international corporate elite. "

"They are engaged in class war of a magnitude and intricacy not witnessed before:"

" taking all our money and reducing us to working and shopping at Wal-Mart to spend our $10/hour wages. Each time they "outsource" jobs, each time they "import" cheap goods, each time they sign one more exorbitant contract with government for goods and services (purchased with taxes we paid),

"each time they get laws passed that remove what few protections from them we have,

each time they get one more patent, each time they buy one more media outlet, each time--

Thank you Isabelle, for the reminder of spring.

Spring

For me, spring is a time of renewal. We get to start over again. Life renews itself. It's another magnanimous example of Gaia's generosity. "We get an infinite number of tries until we get it right".

For me, spring is the best season. Here in Oregon, we have to endure endless days and nights of rain. Rain is the sum total of our winters. Unending days and nights of rain.

Every once in a while it freezes, but it's so rare, and the newspapers write about it for days and all the havoc that it creates, but it's actually quite rare.

We live in a "Temperate Rain Forest", a fancy title for Rain, 7 months per year. It's the reason why California has 30 million people, and Oregon only has 3 million people.

At the end of February, there is a certain time of year when the Season Changes. Most people don't have a clue, but it never escapes me. I can feel it. There's a change in the air. Maybe it's the leaves bursting open from the branches; there is a certain smell.

Or maybe it's the bulbs opening in peoples' front lawns. Either way, there's a change in the air, and I can feel it.

While everyone else is looking forward to the flowers, the scents, the prime moment has already arrived. They don't see it, though.

An interesting take on this spring: it appears to be stifled, not able to express itself. Isabelle portrays it as 'a season of endings, not beginnings'.

My boss is nearing retirement age. He's so excited because he's worked for a steel mill for a number of years, and his wife is a school teacher.

He's figure out how much he's going to make in his retirement. It's going to be "quite a bit". He's really happy that he played his cards right. He proudly shows me his pencil calculations of his Impending Wealth in retirement.

Meanwhile, I don't have a ghost of a chance of living off "the fatted calf" but what does that concern him.

I tried to warn him recently that the steel mills are increasingly abandoning their commitment to their retirement plans and making them the responsiblity of the government.....bailing out, in other words. We'll see.

P. Yogananda said that planning for retirement was like planning a picnic in the outdoors. You fill a picnic basket full of goodies. You find the perfect spot. There's a lovely picnic table, a beautiful view. You open up the picnic basket, ready to have a great meal.

Suddenly, at the edge of the woods, a bear appears. He's got you in his sights. And he's headed straight for you. He makes a beeline straight for the picnic basket, and proceeds to eat everything in it.

Moral = don't count on everything going your way, even if you planned on it. My brother has 5 pension plans, and he will probably die before collecting on any of them, as he has adult onset diabetes, and is really overweight.

I believe that the Bush administration has taken on the role of Shiva the Destroyer, and they are the reminder that we cannot assume that our futures are guaranteed.

Thanks, Isabelle.

Travieso,

You are completely correct that “real men” don't really care or feel threatened by gay men. But, men who have sexual issues find gay men extremely threatening and it’s not that a gay person is any kind of threat to them, but it’s their own homosexual feeling that is the real threat. For instance ~ My husband has never felt even the least bit uncomfortable/threatened by a single gay person ~ In fact two of our dearest/oldest friends are a gay couple, but then my husband is very secure about his own masculinity ~ IMHO, Bush/Rove (and so many of Bush inner circle) certainly demonstrate all the characteristics of self loathing/self hating closeted homosexuals ~ and just like you/me both my gay friends share the same view point.

Starrynights, I would like to expand on this subject. I think why this tactic is so effective on the general public but men especially is because a large number of young men have grown up in single parent homes usually headed by women (either divorced or unmarried) and more than likely didn't have a strong male role model and have learned incorrectly that machismo equals manhood and that is why a lot of them are drawn to the Rethugs' overly simplistic line of BS that fighting is the only way for a real man to resolve conflicts and to compromise is to be weak. Unfortunately, Bush is the archtype of the strutting cowboy and that is why he is so revered. I also think that girls who are raised by single mothers are taught that this is what a real man is.

Furthermore conservative commentators like Dr. Dobson are always stereotyping kids who come from single parent homes as defective. This sets up a Stockholm syndrome type reaction where these kids feel worthless and are sucked into joining Rethugs who send out this message that if you become one of them then you are not only no longer 'defective' but you are better than others.

One in Four Americans Would Use Nukes Against Terrorists, Gallup Finds

By Greg Mitchell

Published: March 01, 2005 12:00 PM ET

NEW YORK More than one in four Americans would go so far as to utilize nuclear bombs if need be in the fight against terrorism, according to a national survey reported today by The Gallup Organization.

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/search/article_display.jsp?schema=&vnu_content_id=1000819252

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Scary statistic, don't you think? [Jo]

Juan Cole:

"Tom Engelhardt and Jonathan Schell ruminate over at Tomdispatch on the relative weakness of the US as a superpower, which is obvious in Iraq. This weakness, in my view, derives from the relative strength of European and East Asian economies, the indebtedness of the US to foreign creditors, and the mobilization of the masses in less developed countries, such that they can no longer be controlled in the old colonial ways (European colonialism depended crucially on the peasantry being isolated, illiterate and relatively apolitical). As for economic strength, Matthew Connelly at Columbia University has argued persuasively that the US used threats of denying France loans to get DeGaulle to accept the decolonization of Algeria. The US now cannot use such a tool, since we owe enormous sums to foreign governments."

Link to Engelhardt and Schell article Juan Cole is referring to:

http://www.tomdispatch.com/index.mhtml?pid=2235

... "In history, the rise of imperial pretenders has usually led to military alliances against them. Such was the case, for instance, when a previous imperial republic, Napoleon's France, conquered most of Europe but then was defeated by an oddly assorted alliance of Britain, Russia and Austria-Hungary. Such is not the case today. Europe seems determined to bypass rather than fight the American challenge. And power? The American kind is poor in "future goods." There is rivalry in the air, but it no longer takes a martial form. Instead, Europe seems bent for now on building itself up economically and knitting itself together politically -- readying, it appears, another kind of power, based more on cooperation, both within its own borders and with the world, and less on military force."

Mandeville Update 3/2/05

http://www.michaelmandeville.com/earthmonitor/ecbulletins/2005/ecb_March_2_05.htm

My two posts above, 1st on those who would 'nuke' and second on rest of the world allying against US (us, in effect)...

Do you see any warmongering outside this regime and its cohorts? Do you hear anyone else on the planet talking about nuking 'terrorists'?

Back during Gulf War I (as some call it) rednecks in the South spoke all the time about nuking those "ragheads" (funny too, no one thinks that label and others like sand ni@$#$ are unacceptable)... IRA has been a fact the Brits have had to live with for eons... yet, no one there speaks of 'nuking' them... makes you wonder about the kind of folks we have in this country. Was listening to a CD of oldies yesterday --- Joan Baez singing during the 60s... one song in particular about "wars" with the refrain, "with God on our side"... add another verse about the invasion of Iraq, and the ballard is up-to-date. The upcoming tMerc Rx will bring a time for review and reflection (all Rxs do that of course) and hopefully * will review and realize that no one will stand with him in his warmongering... that the world is moving ahead without the USA and preparing their economies to make do without the US $...

Isabelle, very fine article. Thank you for bringing it to us. tPluto begins its Rx station about the 19th of this month, I believe. Could you take a look at that plugged into the equinox and comment on it? I think it will be about Sept before tPluto Rx opposes US nMars exact, and it will start moving away from the GC about the 19th.

too much coffee this a.m.! Meant to make the point above about 'nuking' terrorists... terrorists are individuals, sometimes they represent groups... they don't represent nation- states... so why would so many Americans think we can 'nuke' a few people? Or, do they move on from the word 'terrorist'... to Muslims, Arabs? And if so, how did they come to do this? [she stupidly asks, knowing well they have had their reptilian brains washed and rinsed numerous times] BUT more importantly, what kind of a pollster poses such a question, knowing full well the aforestated (or, maybe the pollster is operating from his/her primitive brain? Help me out here guys... what has this country come to, when questions like this are asked?!!

Haartz

Who says we embrace the fence?
By Yossi Beilin and Yasser Abed Rabbo

It was with great disappointment that we followed the Israeli cabinet debate and vote last week, just 12 days after the Sharm Summit, authorizing the "improved route" of the separation barrier.

Meron Rapoport in Ha'aretz (February 24) "And now the fence is embraced by the left?" suggested that the Geneva Initiative welcomed this development. He was wrong. Both the substance and the process of the decision were deeply flawed.

In substance, the barrier route serves neither Israeli nor Palestinian interests. It took three years and a Defense Ministry Special Committee to realize what we all knew regarding the home demolition policy - namely, that in addition to being immoral, it actually increases anger and hostility among the Palestinian population.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/546725.html

Once every hundred years or so, even South Carolina gets something right...

The Padilla Ruling Is a Victory for Freedom
by Jacob G. Hornberger, March 2, 2005

..."But make no mistake about it: If the Pentagon’s power to arrest Americans for terrorism and punish them without federal court interference is upheld by the courts, the floodgates will be open to omnipotent military power in America. American life will never be the same again. Life will be transformed by such power in ways unimaginable. No one will be safe from military arrest, including newspaper editors, government critics, and dissidents. Any person — any person — deemed to be an “enemy combatant” and taken into military custody will have no recourse to avoid punishment, except for the “good faith” of the Pentagon, the government organization that is responsible for plunging this nation into one of the most shameful torture, sex abuse, rape, and murder scandals in its history, not to mention the resulting cover-up."

http://www.fff.org/comment/com0503a.asp

Just want to interject, vis a vi the discussion on manhood and homosexuality, that lastnight I saw a great, little-known movie on cable, "The Mudge Boy." The acting was so excellent. It was a very graphic depiction of a young boy (about 14) on a farm whose mother had just died and was left to fend for himself in a world of stupid, insensitive, manevolent (sp?) brute males, seemingly including his father. His only friend was a pet chicken who followed him everywhere. Everyone considered him weird but, in reality, he was just this handsome, beautifully-souled, vulnerable little guy who sometimes wore his mom's clothing to feel close to her. Just a great film. It's advertised as having strong sexual content and does. The tension between the boy and everyone else is felt throughout the film and the resolution is very impacting. I recommend it as a wonderful examination and revelation of how a somewhat sick society, as well as natural loss, affect a growing individual, how he copes and what his choices are.

If anyone knows of any similiar films that deal with and examine this type of theme ("Boys Don't Cry" with Hillary Swank, which I did not see yet), please let me know.

America Number 1???

http://207.44.245.159/article8191.htm

Isabelle, I read this thread when you put it up, and immediately saw what a talented writer you are becoming. As far as the predictions, I wanted to give it some time to let it sink in and to see how the energies are building towards the equinox.I know that I definitely feel the Aries/ Mars energy building up. You all are posting some from very interesting stuff, and I want to comment on some of it when I have more time, 'til then, thanks to everyone for your wonderful comments. I think that Mar. 19/ 20th is going to bring a disaster to the midsection of the country. There is a huge protest going down in Fayetteville, and the pro-military people are getting themselves ready to counter it: http://www.fayettevillenc.com/story.php?Template=local&Story=6866891

Interestingly enough, the Army undertook a mass-moving of it's inventory from Virginia to bases in Kansas and Missouri: Russian Intelligence sources are reporting today on the massive movement
of transportation equipment from the United States Army Combined Arms
Support Command, located in Fort Lee, Virginia, to US military bases in
their regions of Missouri and Kansas.

The significance of this massive military movement towards Missouri and
Kansas cannot be lost upon us as this military region houses the dreaded
US Army military unit known as the Dragon Soldiers located at Fort
Leonard Wood, Missouri, and who use as their emblem the dreaded dragons
head, and their military support unit the 24th Infantry Division, and
who are located at Fort Riley, Kansas and say of themselves that they
are, "America's Warfighting Center".

These dreaded Dragon Soldiers, and who are actually a part of the United
States Army's 3ed Chemical Brigade, are perhaps the world's best trained
military forces for both chemical and biological attacks.

By these massive military movements within the United States of their
vast chemical and biological forces we can only presuppose that an
attack upon the United States is about to occur. cont'd......

gotta go to work now, but I want to add something about the pope discussion later. Ya'll take care :)

Inside the Committee that runs the world...

long but worth it....

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?story_id=2601&print=1&PHPSESSID=90d46abc9dd459b3edb63c4e542fe2ce

North Korea ends missile-test moratorium

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_asiapacific/print/135443/1/.html

Cliss...I enjoyed reading your Spring and Rain post....reminded me that my great grandfather went to Oregon in 1850 and founded (with friends) the down of Dallas, in Polk county. Four years later he left and went home to NY state....couldn't stand the dampness!!! I think it must take a particular type of personality to endure this constant rain (a great deal of my family lives or has lived all over Oregon).

I particularily like the Yogananda story about retirement....and fully agree with him....that bear is there, and ready to pounce on the picnic basket. Now they are going after the Social Security picnic basket in the same way....lots of goodies for them....we must not forget that freemarket capitalists as these jerks are believe in nothing other than the primacy of the 'winner'......dog eat dog, everything goes, and gee....surely you don't believe in father government GIVING you anything, right?

Here's an interesting development that may
affect our movement in the Middle East...

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Cliss...that should be "town" of Dallas, not "down"....

Judi Gemini,
Meant to welcome you back earlier...Welcome Back! Hope you are well and the sun is shining on you. Namaste

hey, it's happening. check out this link. the DEMS have the repulicans hung out to dry. they're asking for a congressional inquiry on all records pertaining to gannon. if the republican majority says yes, then they get the docs and there will be hell to pay. if the republicans voted it down, then the DEMS have a huge 2006 issue -- republicans support DBSM male hookers.

about time:

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/index.php?p=142

hi judi gemeni and shylurker, where for art thou?

Checking in, Mr. Mike. Now that everyone's discussing the March 20th-21st aspects, I've been wondering about the marches that are supposed to happen on the 19th. 'Course no one pays any attention to the marches anymore. And since Smirky will be on a road tour to destroy Social Security and send more of our money to the filthy rich (words ring truer and truer, don't they?), the corporate news media will be concentrating on that anyway. I just hope the Dems will continue to push every which way--aggressively! There are so many, many ways to push, too. Hoo-boy!

China Condems US human-rights record....

http://www.theinsider.org/mailing/article.asp?id=998

A tough one by Fiore...Never Again, Again...

http://www.sfgate.com/comics/fiore/

Whew! You guys are rockin.'Peg, your post about troop movement is definitely indicative of something and ties into the March 19 demonstrations Shylurker mentions. I'll be out in the streets. Will post a first-hand report from Tennessee if i make it back home in one piece. Oh ya, the energy is building.

Hey great to see you back, Judy Gemini!

karen

Big business making record profits are our
expense....

http://www.theinsider.org/mailing/article.asp?id=997

Some Thoughts on the Middle East and America: 33 Things You Should Think About

What right has President Bush or Conde Rice to dictate to the Lebanese Government?

Why is it that the “demonstrators” in Beirut, Lebanon, had all their signs in English?

Have you considered that they were playing to the American TV audience? In fact, the “big crowds” the American media spoke about were less than 3000 people, but the cameras shot the crowed for maximum effect.

http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m10087&l=i&size=1&hd=0

Someone is watching Monsanto...

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/3/3/135111/7551

Judi, thanks! Yes, I know where Dallas is. It's an adorable town, not far from Salem Oregon. It's a little bit out of the way, but a great place for antique-shopping.

It's one of those "Oregon gems" that's featured in travel books. That's so awesome that he founded the town. I'll go down there some weekend & see if I can find something about him.

Re: Bush.

For anyone who's interested in seeing a recent photo of Bush, go to Yahoo News and look up the article "Bush hopes Iran policy shift will Advance US Goals". There's a photo of Bush with his mouth open, and his fist in the air.

Take a close look. That is, without a doubt, the worst photo I have ever seen of him. He looks like he's at death's door. His face is strangely swollen, and lumpy in many places.

His eyes are swollen, and he looks like an opposum with beady little eyes. I'm recalling some odd predictions about the old boy and this spring.

Weird. Sally?

I don't know if this has already been posted. How much can this adminstration continue to get away with? This scares the crap out of me.

http://first-draft.com/

An Iraqi Ministry of Health Official, tasked with assessing the health conditions in Fallujah, concludes that U.S. forces used chemical weapons in the November assault on the city.

Dr. Khalid ash-Shaykhli, an official at Iraq’s health ministry, said that the U.S. military used internationally banned weapons during its deadly offensive in the city of Fallujah. Dr. ash-Shaykhli was assigned by the ministry to assess the health conditions in Fallujah following the November assault there.

[snip]

Dr. ash-Shaykhli said that researches, prepared by his medical team, prove that U.S. occupation forces used internationally prohibited substances, including mustard gas, nerve gas, and other burning chemicals in their attacks in the war-torn city.

He started the conference by reporting the current health conditions of the Fallujah residents. He said that the city is still suffering from the effects of chemical substances and other types of weapons that cause serious diseases over the long term.

Asked whether limited nuclear weapons were also used by U.S. forces in Fallujah, Dr. ash-Shaykhli said; “What I saw during our research in Fallujah leads me to me believe everything that has been said about that battle.

“I absolutely do not exclude their use of nuclear and chemical substances, since all forms of nature were wiped out in that city. I can even say that we found dozens, if not hundreds, of stray dogs, cats, and birds that had perished as a result of those gasses.”

Thanks for the welcome back. you all...since no one noticed the first time I posted, I went ahead and got sick again for a couple of days. I'm awful emotional these days...

Isabelle, interesting article on the solstice....I was just noticing the moon mars opposition you mentioned:
The chart for the Equinox, set for the nation’s capital, is interesting in the fact that the Moon is exactly opposite Mars, and at a critical degree, 29, in Cancer and Capricorn respectively.

It so happens that one of my best friends is the last degree of Capricorn sun with Cancer rising and on March 24 she is being given the Woman of the Year award in San Mateo, CA for the charity work she has done over the years. She deserves it. Yes, she is also a Repub. So her sun is being conjuncted and opposed at the same time, but it seems to bring great fame and recognition (the awards will also be shown on CNN)....the hardest part is that she is probably going to pass out from the fear of having to make a speech to all the people there....(and I am looking at my Aries mars being wraped up in that interception....it feels as if it is already happening to me: Mars, ruler of Aries, has come to the end of its reign (in Capricorn) and so has the Moon (in Cancer). Aries is intercepted, its sign is submerged and consumed by another sign, namely Pisces, a watery nebulous sign which has swamped and submerged the more potent aggressive ram.

Just one person's story, but what if it also holds true for Bush? I do believe what we are seeing is the NEW power grid for this country which will last another 20 to 29 years before being supplanted...many of us may never see the end of it!

Condi gets a '@itchslap' from a former Canadian PM
subscription needed, but link is provided

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/westview/story/2610442p-3026695c.html

Missile Counter-Attack

Axworthy fires back at U.S. -- and Canadian -- critics of our BMD decision in An Open Letter to U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice

Thursday, March 3rd, 2005

By LLOYD AXWORTHY

Dear Condi, I'm glad you've decided to get over your fit of pique and venture north to visit your closest neighbour. It's a chance to learn a thing or two. Maybe more.

I know it seems improbable to your divinely guided master in the White House that mere mortals might disagree with participating in a missile-defence system that has failed in its last three tests, even though the tests themselves were carefully rigged to show results.

But, gosh, we folks above the 49th parallel are somewhat cautious types who can't quite see laying down billions of dollars in a three-dud poker game.

As our erstwhile Prairie-born and bred (and therefore prudent) finance minister pointed out in presenting his recent budget, we've had eight years of balanced or surplus financial accounts. If we're going to spend money, Mr. Goodale added, it will be on day-care and health programs, and even on more foreign aid and improved defence.

Sure, that doesn't match the gargantuan, multi-billion-dollar deficits that your government blithely runs up fighting a "liberation war" in Iraq, laying out more than half of all weapons expenditures in the world, and giving massive tax breaks to the top one per cent of your population while cutting food programs for poor children.

Just chalk that up to a different sense of priorities about what a national government's role should be when there isn't a prevailing mood of manifest destiny.

Coming to Ottawa might also expose you to a parliamentary system that has a thing called question period every day, where those in the executive are held accountable by an opposition for their actions, and where demands for public debate on important topics such a missile defence can be made openly.

You might also notice that it's a system in which the governing party's caucus members are not afraid to tell their leader that their constituents don't want to follow the ideological, perhaps teleological, fantasies of Canada's continental co-inhabitant. And that this leader actually listens to such representations.

Your boss did not avail himself of a similar opportunity to visit our House of Commons during his visit, fearing, it seems, that there might be some signs of dissent. He preferred to issue his diktat on missile defence in front of a highly controlled, pre-selected audience.

Such control-freak antics may work in the virtual one-party state that now prevails in Washington. But in Canada we have a residual belief that politicians should be subject to a few checks and balances, an idea that your country once espoused before the days of empire.

If you want to have us consider your proposals and positions, present them in a proper way, through serious discussion across the table in our cabinet room, as your previous president did when he visited Ottawa. And don't embarrass our prime minister by lobbing a verbal missile at him while he sits on a public stage, with no chance to respond.

Now, I understand that there may have been some miscalculations in Washington based on faulty advice from your resident governor of the "northern territories," Ambassador Cellucci. But you should know by now that he hasn't really won the hearts and minds of most Canadians through his attempts to browbeat and command our allegiance to U.S. policies.

Sadly, Mr. Cellucci has been far too closeted with exclusive groups of 'experts' from Calgary think-tanks and neo-con lobbyists at cross-border conferences to remotely grasp a cross-section of Canadian attitudes (nor American ones, for that matter).

I invite you to expand the narrow perspective that seems to inform your opinions of Canada by ranging far wider in your reach of contacts and discussions. You would find that what is rising in Canada is not so much anti-Americanism, as claimed by your and our right-wing commentators, but fundamental disagreements with certain policies of your government. You would see that rather than just reacting to events by drawing on old conventional wisdoms, many Canadians are trying to think our way through to some ideas that can be helpful in building a more secure world.

These Canadians believe that security can be achieved through well-modulated efforts to protect the rights of people, not just nation-states.

To encourage and advance international co-operation on managing the risk of climate change, they believe that we need agreements like Kyoto.

To protect people against international crimes like genocide and ethnic cleansing, they support new institutions like the International Criminal Court -- which, by the way, you might strongly consider using to hold accountable those committing atrocities today in Darfur, Sudan.

And these Canadians believe that the United Nations should indeed be reformed -- beginning with an agreement to get rid of the veto held by the major powers over humanitarian interventions to stop violence and predatory practices.

On this score, you might want to explore the concept of the 'Responsibility to Protect' while you're in Ottawa. It's a Canadian idea born out of the recent experience of Kosovo and informed by the many horrific examples of inhumanity over the last half-century. Many Canadians feel it has a lot more relevance to providing real human security in the world than missile defence ever will.

This is not just some quirky notion concocted in our long winter nights, by the way. It seems to have appeal for many in your own country, if not the editorialists at the Wall Street Journal or Rush Limbaugh. As I discovered recently while giving a series of lectures in southern California, there is keen interest in how the U.S. can offer real leadership in managing global challenges of disease, natural calamities and conflict, other than by military means.

There is also a very strong awareness on both sides of the border of how vital Canada is to the U.S. as a partner in North America. We supply copious amounts of oil and natural gas to your country, our respective trade is the world's largest in volume, and we are increasingly bound together by common concerns over depletion of resources, especially very scarce fresh water.

Why not discuss these issues with Canadians who understand them, and seek out ways to better cooperate in areas where we agree -- and agree to respect each other's views when we disagree.

Above all, ignore the Cassandras who deride the state of our relations because of one missile-defence decision. Accept that, as a friend on your border, we will offer a different, independent point of view. And that there are times when truth must speak to power.

In friendship, Lloyd Axworthy

(Lloyd Axworthy is president of the University of Winnipeg and a former Canadian foreign minister)

Beautiful, Jo.... That eloquent statement from Lloyd Axworthy. Very humiliating. She isn't doing too well, is she?
Oh well, win some, lose some.

And I like that.."Axworthy".

I really am impressed.

Another wonderful touch after all that martial moosecrap:

"In frienship, Lloyd Axworthy".

Maya del Mar has a very interesting article up similar to Isabelle's concerning the retrograde planets this month (not the Spring Equinox):

http://www.daykeeperjournal.com/retrogrades.shtml

Also see her other articles about earth changes also.

http://forum.truthout.org/blog/story/2005/2/24/84720/3496

A Friend in Need
By William Pitt

If you have followed the push for election reform over the last two years, you have probably heard the name Andy Stephenson. Andy, who worked for a long time with the folks over at BlackBoxVoting.org, has been at the forefront of the fight to make sure that every vote is counted, every vote counts, and that our elections do not become a privatized exercise in electronic touch-screen theft.

I was with Andy in Seattle last July at a Rolling Thunder event. I was trying to be upbeat about the looming election, but Andy could not summon the will to do more than tell the hard truth. On that day, he predicted everything that happened in Ohio, Florida, Nevada and elsewhere. I ran into him again at the inauguration protests this past January, and he had an 'I %&$#!*@ told you so' face on that could have cracked granite.

For the last several weeks, Andy has been suffering through a bout of Hepatitis. The word - "http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3165720&mesg_id=3165720" - came down yesterday, however, that his situation is far more serious. "I apparently have a tumor growing around the bile duct where it passes through my pancreas," he wrote. "The tissue sample was consistent with malignancy; it could be benign but I am planning for the worst."

Andy has been out of work for several months; he gave pretty much his entire life to the cause of election reform, which doesn't pay, and is now unemployed, without health insurance and staring down the barrel of major surgery.

His friends have set up a Paypal account - "http://www.paypal.com" - so he can receive donations. If you aren't sure how Paypal works, this page - "http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_help-ext&eloc=0&loc=267&source_page=_home&flow=" TARGET="story_ref" - should answer any questions.

Andy needs our help, and more than that, he deserves it. Please sign up for Paypal here - "https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_registration-run" TARGET="story_ref" - and send him a donation. His Paypal account name is Andy_Stephenson@comcast.net.

Late edit: For those who do not like PayPal, a PO box has been set up:

Andy Stephenson
P.O. Box 25624
Seattle, WA 98165-1124

Thanks.

Hmmmm. Somebody (maybe Claudia Dikinis???) studied the relationships between the charts of Smirky and Turkey. Not very compatible, as I recollect. And now here's this:

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-03/04/content_2646500.htm

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7077

Maximum pain is aim of new US weapon

The US military is funding development of a weapon that delivers a bout of excruciating pain from up to 2 kilometres away. Intended for use against rioters, it is meant to leave victims unharmed. But pain researchers are furious that work aimed at controlling pain has been used to develop a weapon. And they fear that the technology will be used for torture.

"I am deeply concerned about the ethical aspects of this research," says Andrew Rice, a consultant in pain medicine at Chelsea and Westminster Hospital in London, UK. "Even if the use of temporary severe pain can be justified as a restraining measure, which I do not believe it can, the long-term physical and psychological effects are unknown."

The research came to light in documents unearthed by the Sunshine Project, an organisation based in Texas and in Hamburg, Germany, that exposes biological weapons research. The papers were released under the US's Freedom of Information Act.

One document, a research contract between the Office of Naval Research and the University of Florida in Gainesville, US, is entitled "Sensory consequences of electromagnetic pulses emitted by laser induced plasmas".

It concerns so-called Pulsed Energy Projectiles (PEPs), which fire a laser pulse that generates a burst of expanding plasma when it hits something solid, like a person (New Scientist print edition, 12 October 2002). The weapon, destined for use in 2007, could literally knock rioters off their feet.

Pain trigger

According to a 2003 review of non-lethal weapons by the US Naval Studies Board, which advises the navy and marine corps, PEPs produced "pain and temporary paralysis" in tests on animals. This appears to be the result of an electromagnetic pulse produced by the expanding plasma which triggers impulses in nerve cells.

More...

Gov't Tests Placing Monitoring Bracelets on Immigrants National Public Radio is reporting that the Department of Homeland Security has placed electronic monitoring bracelets on the ankles of 1,700 immigrants as part of an experimental programs that allows the government to track them 24 hours a day. The bracelets have been placed on a group of immigrants who have never been accused of a crime but whose immigration status is being challenged by the government. In one case, an immigrant from Belize has been ordered to stay in his house from 6 at night to 6 in the morning. If he tries to sneak out of his Minneapolis home, his ankle bracelet sounds an alarm at a national computer center in Indiana. The experimental program is expected to last six more months. After that the Department of Homeland Security will decide whether it will order all non-citizens applying to stay here to wear the electronic monitoring device.

NPR reports:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4519090

I wonder how this meeting will be affected by the coming aspects...

Steve_DeShazer (1000+ posts) Fri Mar-04-05 12:00 AM
Original message
Bush to Meet Leaders of Canada, Mexico on March 23

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush will try to ease frictions with U.S. neighbors Canada and Mexico at a three-way summit meeting in Texas on March 23 that includes a coveted invitation to his Crawford ranch.

The White House announced on Thursday Bush would hold working sessions with Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin and Mexican President Vicente Fox at Baylor University in Waco before hosting a lunch for them at his "Prairie Chapel" ranch about 25 miles away.

How comforting: My memory still works!

http://starcats.com/newsmakers_mar2003_archive.html

Hi you guys again! Judi, welcome back! I'm sorry you've been sick- positive thoughts are headed your way for a bright, beautiful spring. Jo, thanks for posting the Axworthy letter, it's terrific! and Shylurker, I'm glad you're not losing it, lol. I'm checking in for a quick few during halftime of watching MY undefeated Fighting Illini whip Purdue, (yay! go Illini!), so I can maybe give some hope to anyone who sometimes gets as p'd off and depressed as me (Mars is crossing my descendant-not a fun time). Here are some quatrains from Nostradamus concerning the cabal we are facing which sheds some light on the current situation. Also, there is info. here on the "Pope situation" for anyone still interested: I p 266 (cII-88)

The Antichrist successfully takes over nearly all of Europe. The cabal
of international financiers and bankers will not stay in active war
with the Antichrist and his attention will turn elsewhere. In France
the underground will begin to flourish.

The Cabal families made their influence and fortunes in the banking
and commodities industries, such as gold or diamond mines, leather,
tins, etc, like the colonial barons associated with the European
world empires who started their families' fortunes exploiting the
materials of the Third World nations. "The seventh and the fifth"
will have the same names, and the seventh one will be considered part
of the fifth.

The Cabal manipulates the economy to cause the unemployment or
inflation rates to rise or fall at their whim. They have affected
everyone's life.

j. Cabal destroyed by the Antichrist

I p 268 (cII-18)

Somehow through the espionage powers of the Antichrist, the seven key
leaders of the secret cabal will be discovered and destroyed. This is
his familiar technique of throwing his enemies into confusion and
chaos to seize or take advantage of their assets in their weakened
state. At the time he knew only that they were financing the European
forces that opposed him.

But in this case it is shortsighted of him because it was the cabal
that has been instigating the warfare going on through the decades
and centuries, and destroying them in effect seals the "beginning of
the end" for the Antichrist because their hidden activities promoted
his agenda. When they are removed the agitation for world war is no
longer present and the natural inclination for world peace will
assert itself, thereby doing away with the Antichrist.
link for lots of terrific stuff: http://www.faqs.org/faqs/nostradamus/part2/

Oh excellent Peg!

yes, it is Pat :) ENJOY!!! BTW, The #1 University of Illinois Fighting Illini are now 29- 0. (a shameless plug, but what the hell, lol)

Iran to Dimbot: Take that twerp, checkmate.....of course cowboys are not known to be heavy thinkers, so if he does rush in -
the oil spigot will close sooner than expected.... like fairly immediately...so stop worrying about "Peak Oil" -

___

"Iran threat: Attack by West risks all 'Middle East oil'

SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM Thursday, March 3, 2005

Iran has warned that Gulf Arab oil would be endangered by any U.S. attack on the Islamic republic.In the first such threat, a leading Iranian official raised the prospect of Iranian retaliation against Middle East oil exports. The official said such Gulf oil states as Kuwait and Saudi Arabia could be threatened, Middle East Newsline reported.

"An attack on Iran will be tantamount to endangering Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and – in a word – the entire Middle East oil," Iranian Expediency Council secretary Mohsen Rezai said on Tuesday.

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About 40 percent of the world's crude oil shipments passes through the two-mile wide channel of the strategic Straits of Hormuz. Iranian forces are deployed at the head of the channel. Oman and the United Arab Emirates are located on the other side.
Teheran could easily block the Straits of Hormuz and use its missiles to strike tankers and GCC oil facilities, according to the new edition of Geostrategy-Direct.com. Within weeks, the rest of the world would be starving for oil and the global economy could be in danger.
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The U.S. Energy Information Administration projects that oil tanker traffic through the Straits of Hormuz will rise to about 60 percent of global oil exports by 2025.

Rezai, a former commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps and a candidate for president, told the Fars News Agency that any Western attack on Iran would send oil prices rocketing to $70 per barrel. He said such a significant increase in oil prices would also be sparked by international sanctions on Teheran. "

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hi, bhakti!!!

*****GOOD MOOOOOORNING AW*****

you people go too bed to early! and the west coasters have NO excuse (and i mean you shylurker and judi gemeni).

well, i said dem senate leader harry reid, d, nv, was a real OPPOSITION leader.

so for all you doubters out there (and i know there are a few of you), allow me to be gracious and say:
"I TOLD YOU SO"...and i was right...you should be glad i'm right...the pleasure is all yours (relax, this is pro wrestler schitch, don't really mean it...peace out...well, maybe i mean it a little, but that would be telling)

REID ATTACKED ALAN GREENSPAN. remember when the only people who would do this were la rouche supporters. greenspan is THE sacred cow. well, he stinks and harry reid just let him know that 'the emperor has no clothes.'

check out this du link and comments. rokken!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1282259

And to think I thought he was a boring little guy when he gave the Democratic response to *'s State of the Union speech. He is anything but. He is someone we really need, and part of the great new team of Reid, Boxer, and Dean...pure fresh air, integrity and gumption!

I think Harry Reid is a Sagittarius...one of the unrestrained, blunt, tell it like he sees it kind, to be sure.

Another fact statement from Reid...

"Reid said that when Bill Clinton was president, Democrats had confronted the deficit problem by enacting a tax increase in 1993, which helped bring about a balanced budget and strong economic growth later in the decade.

"Why doesn't he respond to the Republicans and tell them the big problem here is the debt that this administration [has] created?" he said. "We had a $7 trillion-dollar surplus when Bush took office. Now we have a $3 or $4 trillion-dollar deficit. That's, in fact, what Greenspan should be telling people.""

Just heard on CNN that some company is selling the souls of celebrities. You receive a commerative green "soul" stone for something like $18.95. Somehow, however vulgar this is, it seems sort of apropos for these times, when the anti is in power and the soul of our government has been sold for a larger amount.

M, i would think they'd pay us to take some of those souls. and haven't they heard, the going price for everything now days is $19.95.

Greenspan was born March 6. 1926, in New York city.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Greenspan:

Senate Democratic Leader Blasts Greenspan

Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan generally gets accolades for his public pronouncements. Yesterday he got a brickbat from Senate Minority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.), who blasted Greenspan as "one of the biggest political hacks we have here in Washington."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A5396-2005Mar3?language=printer

Deficits and Deceit
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/04/opinion/04krugman.html?hp

Don't know if we want "some" of those souls Mike, I can't help but think it would be like touching pitch.

Some interesting comments about communications and Iran attack in his March 4 post: http://www.stevejudd.co.uk/

Got this in my e-mail.

Yesterday morning, members of a forum for assault weapon enthusiasts hacked the liberal website, http://www.buzzflash.com, which had been rallying support fora ban on .50 caliber machine guns capable of taking out commercial airliners. Later, the home address and phone number of buzzflash's ceo, mark karlin, was posted on the forum: http://www.biggerhammer.net/barrett/wwwboard/index.cgi?read=166423 As the discussion grew increasingly heated throughout the day, one forum member wrote, "There are a few hitmen in the Chicago area." http://www.biggerhammer.net/barrett/wwwboard/index.cgi?read=166477 As a result, buzzflash's staff (a few editors live just blocks from the Lefkow family) have been receiving threatening phone calls and emails all day. My sense of the episode is that it's just another case of empty right-wing eliminationist rhetoric and it will subside shortly, but in the climate that seems to be emerging in the wake of the Lefkow killings, can anything be taken for granted?

http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m10078&l=i&size=1&hd=0

Iraqi Health Ministry confirms use by American occupation forces of internationally prohibited weapons in its attacks on al-Fallujah

March 2, 2005 - Dr Khalid ash-Shaykhli, a representative of the Iraqi Ministry of Health who was authorized to assess health conditions in al-Fallujah after the end of the major battles there, announced that the surveys and studies which a medical team did in al-Fallujah and subsequently reported to the Ministry confirm that US forces used substances that are internationally prohibited -- including mustard gas, nerve gas, and other burning chemicals -- in the course of its attacks on the city.

 Ash-Shaykhli held a press conference in the Health Ministry building in Baghdad's Bab al-Mu'azzam section on Tuesday. He began by reporting on the final results of the fact-finding mission's survey of the situation in which the people of al-Fallujah find themselves. He said that the city now is still experiencing the effects of chemical and other types of weapons used by the Americans, which will be causing serious diseases over the long term.

 The correspondent for Mafkarat al-Islam asked ash-Shaykhli what were the facts regarding use by the occupation forces of limited nuclear weapons. Dr. ash-Shaykhli said,

 "What I saw during our researches in al-Fallujah make me believe everything that has been said about that battle. I absolutely do not exclude their use of nuclear and chemical substances, since all forms of nature were wiped out in that city. I can even say that we found dozens, not to say hundreds, of stray dogs, cats, and birds that had perished as a result of those gasses."

 During the press conference, which was attended by more than 20 Iraqi and Arab journalists, Ash-Shaykhli promised that he would be sending the study and the results that the committee produced to responsible bodies -- both Iraqi and international ones.

 The press conference was attended by correspondents of the Iraqi ash-Sharqiyah television network, the Iraqi government-run al-'Iraqiyah satellite TV network, and the as-Sumariyah network, in addition to foreign media, such as the American Washington and the Knight-Ridder service and the Iraqi as-Sabah newspaper -- besides the correspondent of Mafkarat al-Islam.

 The findings disclosed at Tuesday's [Tuesday, March 1, 2005] press conference must be seen as the most serious statements to be made since the end of nearly four months of military operations in al-Fallujah, Mafkarat al-Islam noted. Mafkarat al-Islam was the first to report on the American occupation forces' use of gasses and burning and chemical substances during the first days after the outbreak of fighting in the city.

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THE HERBST NEWSLETTER
astrological-cultural-spiritual-political views & opinions

--- Thoughts, dates, and reminders about our lives as
members of the craziest species on this lovely planet.
Like a message in a bottle washing up on the sandy
shores of consciousness ---

Issue #75; March, 2005

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Dear friends,

The first of three Mercury retrogrades in 2005 occurs this month. The setup phase begins on March 6th, with the actual retrograde from March 20th through April 12th. Mercury will be moving backwards from 14° to 1° of the sign Aries, so anyone whose natal chart contains significant positions in the first half of any cardinal sign will be more affected.

This five-week period is likely to be a time of turning inward, of experiencing reversals where life boomerangs us from an external focus back into more interior and introspective awareness. It may be a difficult time for task-oriented accomplishments. Situations that seem to call for simple and direct action may backfire into bewildering psychological complexity. Our impacts on others, and their subsequent reactions, may be very different from what we expect. So prepare to be surprised, and don't leap at life. Wait a little before acting, and even then, move cautiously.

--Bill Herbst

Commentary: Bush's Next War

In the run-up to the American military invasion of Iraq, amidst all the saber-rattling about Saddam Hussein's (imaginary) weapons of mass destruction, at least one mainstream voice stood out in consistent protest against the government's bellicose hysteria and mendacity. Scott Ritter, a former U.S. Marine and U.N. weapons inspector in Iraq after the first Gulf War, bravely stood his ground while most politicians, journalists, and others who should have known better collapsed into faux-patriotic acquiescence. Time and again, Ritter spoke out loudly, insisting that Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction, and that the rationale for invading Iraq was, at best, a mistaken assumption or, at worst, an outright lie.

Ritter was right, of course, and hundreds of millions of us around the world agreed with him. Sadly, his voice of sanity, like ours, went unheeded by an administration that lives in its own insulated bubble of ideological evangelism; believes in expansion of the American Empire; and condones the use of violence, torture, and murder as means of achieving its ends.

Ritter has continued to speak out. On February 19th, in the Capitol Theatre in Olympia, Washington, during a presentation on U.S. foreign policy and the need to end the occupation of Iraq, Ritter told the audience that plans for bombing Iran's nuclear facilities had already been approved by President Bush and that the aerial attack was scheduled for June, 2005.

Investigative reporter Seymour Hersh---who describes the neocons in the administration as a "cult" that has "grabbed the government,"---wrote about urgently updated Pentagon plans for attacks on Iran in a January article in The New Yorker. Numerous reports indicate that aerial drones and special forces teams already inside Iran are identifying potential target sites.

The invasion and occupation of Iraq have nearly bankrupted the U.S. treasury via deficit spending, caused untold destruction and suffering, and stretched the American military to the breaking point. Is it possible that our government might soon launch an attack on Iran as the next phase in Bush's crusade to "root out evil?" Viewed from the political perspective, the answer is yes, that agenda is well-documented. Despite every common sense view that would discourage another military misadventure, the Bush administration and the Pentagon now have Iran squarely in their crosshairs.

Can astrology shed further light on this possibility? What's upcoming in George W. Bush's chart? Let's look back first, then forward…

When he initially took office in 2001, Mr. Bush seemed emotionally unprepared for the presidency, but subsequent events provided an epiphany that transformed him. In the final phase of his first life-purpose cycle (called the "balsamic" phase in astrology), George W. was ripe for a dream, a vision of the future, and the 9-11 attacks were the perfect trigger, answering neocon prayers for an event that would make the American populace putty in their hands.

Now, having survived the pressures of a Saturn-Sun conjunction in 2004, which kicked off the spring phase of his second 29-year cycle of life-purpose development, Bush's dream-vision is coalescing, concentrating into a deep emotional commitment. Put simply, Bush is striving to become a mythic figure in history. He feels called by God to become a prophet---a prophet of "freedom."

I would argue that the ideals President Bush now embraces so passionately are not merely wrong-headed, but delusional as well. To the degree he is able to put his goals into practice, America and the world are in for a very bad time. However, while I personally disagree with everything Bush has done, I have no doubt that he believes fervently in his policies, both domestic and foreign. While Bush has no qualms about the cynicism of politics, his core beliefs are sincere. That combination---slick lies and simple religious faith---is very convincing to a large percentage of a very gullible American public.

Mr. Bush is approaching the third watershed period of his reign in office. The first peak phase was extended, stretching from 9-11 in 2001 all the way through the summer of 2003. That period was triumphant for Bush and included the creation of the so-called "War on Terror," "Homeland Security," and the military invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq. Astrologically, that time was marked in Bush's chart by active Jupiter and Neptune cycles, which indicated increased confidence, bold optimism, and deepened religious convictions, as well as immersion into various illusions and deceptions. That's when the dream-vision took root inside Mr. Bush.

The second major period occurred from October 2003 through the election in November 2004. This phase was intensely difficult and challenging for Mr. Bush as he encountered the quagmire of insurgency in Iraq, revelations of scandal (Valerie Plame, Abu Ghraib, etc.), and the rigors of an exhausting campaign for a second term in office. Astrologically, that was the time of Saturn's passage over Bush's natal Sun and the start of his second Saturn return, which remains in effect until June. In many ways, Mr. Bush was almost undone by this middle phase, but he survived to claim re-election.

The upcoming third watershed, as defined by astrology, unfolds over 16 months, from April 2005 through July 2006. Unlike the first period, which was uplifting for Bush, and the second, which nearly crushed him, this third phase of striking portent brings contradictory indications.

In my September 2004 pre-election newsletter commentary, I wrote about Bush's upcoming transits for 2005. To my credit, I discussed with some alarm the dangers that lay ahead. Less sagely, I also predicted that, if he were reelected, the cautioning effect of Bush's continuing Saturn transits might cause him to rein in some of his militant extremism. Boy, was I wrong. Nothing that's happened since the election indicates that Bush has pulled back one inch from his previous stance of rabid, feral belligerence.

So, chastened by my own predictive fallibility, allow me to go over once again Bush's upcoming transits with an eye toward potential conflict with Iran. Are the grim portents of another war, reports of which now squeeze through the cracks of an otherwise compliant corporate news media, reflected in George W. Bush's chart?

Starting in April of 2005 and continuing through January, 2006, Uranus in the heavens will be precisely opposite the position Mars occupied at President Bush's birth. That transit---Uranus oppose Mars---is as provocative and combative an event as exists in astrology.

All Uranian cycles involve sudden, shocking, and "unpredictable" changes of direction (meaning that even astrologers can't nail down the specific manifestation in advance). Whatever the status quo of a given life, Uranus provides a radical impetus to upset the existing order, either from an unexpected welling-up of inner willfulness or in response to unforeseen changes in outer circumstance. Drama ensues. The applecart is overturned. Self-restraint becomes oppressive or even intolerable, and caution is often thrown to the winds. We are definitely not our normal selves.

Over the period of a typical Uranian transit (usually about a year), sporadic moments of frenzied excitement alternate with much longer periods of expectant waiting. In fact, only three to four peak outbursts are likely, but those brief episodes can be doozies.

When Uranus moves opposite any natal symbol, the disruptions that follow emerge out of our relationships. These upsets take shape in both directions---out of us at others, or toward us from others. In either direction, diplomatic efforts toward negotiation, cooperation, and compromise cease. Separations occur. Loyalties shift. We insist on unfettered independence.

When Mars is the planet being disrupted by Uranus, all the classical "male" qualities are strikingly activated. Desire, self-assertion, aggression, or even violence manifest in sudden outbursts toward the goal of revolutionary change. Surprise, upheaval, and chaos are inherent to the process. Explosions are imminent as the motivation toward dramatic action takes center stage. We want to provoke others.

In addition to Uranus-Mars, President Bush has a gaggle of significant Jupiter transits. Jupiter is the trailing planet in the bundle pattern of Bush's chart. Its natal position conjunct the Moon near his Lower Heaven reveal that George W. is indeed the scion of a "royal" and privileged family, which anchors his philosophy and shields him from the harsher realities of life.

Active Jupiter cycles indicate buoyancy, optimism, a sense of enlarged permission, and a moral righteousness that can overflow into arrogance. During the eight months that followed 9-11-2001, Jupiter made its most powerful contacts in George W. Bush's chart. So Bush didn't simply decry the criminal behavior of the attacks. He climbed astride his moral high-horse: "We're good, they're evil, and you're either with us or against us." His simplistic stance of moral rectitude was sown right there, at the beginning of his twelve-year Jupiter-Sun cycle.

All Jupiter cycles progress in roughly three-year quarters. So those same cycles are again active in Bush's chart, from December 2004 through August 2005, taking the confidence and moral high-ground he claimed in 2001-02 to its next emboldened phase. The emotional attitude of superiority has hardened into official policy.

Given these impulses from Uranus-Mars and Jupiter-Sun, we can expect rash decisions and brash behavior from the President, including hostile reactions to any person or state he considers "evil." Bush will likely become visibly more impulsive, impatient, and confrontational with others.

A 12th-house Cancer Sun and Libra Moon would normally be considered indicators of a sensitive and gentle temperament in a peaceful personality, but Bush's chart as a whole suggests otherwise. With Uranus as his leading planet in the 11th house, Mr. Bush has a radical orientation concerning cultural values and social change, and he doesn't care one whit what others think about his attitudes.

Bush's unaspected 2nd-house Mars in Virgo sheds light on the darker sides of his character, specifically his lack of empathy where violence is concerned. All of us have disturbed shadows in our psyches; some of us, however, don't act out the way Bush has. From the child who blew up frogs with firecrackers in Midland, Texas, to the governor who sarcastically mocked the pitiful pleas of a woman on death row whom he ordered executed, to the President who oversees bombing of innocent Iraqi citizens in Baghdad and approves the torture of prisoners in Guantanamo---it's all cut from the same cloth. When Uranus opposes Bush's Mars, look for further outbursts from America's Commander-in-Chief. More war, more killing, more needless suffering, and more tragic consequences down the road.

The repercussions will begin almost immediately, when Saturn crosses Bush's Ascendant and conjoins his 1st-house Mercury and Pluto. These potent Saturn transits, beginning in September 2005 and lasting through June 2006, indicate a heavy weight of responsibility descending on Mr. Bush. In anyone's chart, Saturn's passage of the Ascendant into the first quadrant implies a period of necessary and forced self-reflection, where everything done for the previous two decades comes up for review. It is one of the most somber "Ah-Ha!" moments in astrology. We are pressured to see and understand the results of our actions, especially those that had been hidden from us by our own forgetfulness or unconsciousness. Whether we get it or not depends on our character and maturity.

So far, President Bush has gotten away with murder (whether literally or figuratively depends on one's politics). Bush's actions from April through August---especially if imprudent or rash---could result in consequences over the fall of 2005 and winter 2006 that will pressure the president to grapple with profoundly serious decisions.

A slim chance exists that Uranus' meaning of "reversal" might signal a turning away from the path of belligerence that George W. Bush has followed up to now. But don't bet on it. Bush's self-esteem is based on aggression (Mars in the 2nd), and his plans for social reform on a global scale (leading planet Uranus in the 11th) are firmly in place.

Geopolitics may shift unpredictably between now and the summer. Perhaps North Korea, Syria, or some new hot spot will turn out to be the surprise target rather than Iran. Whatever events unfold, however, as informed citizens we need to realize that, quite probably, Bush's next war is around the corner.

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Thom Hartman

Moses Didn't Write the Constitution

http://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/print.cgi?file=/views05/0303-30.htm

Here's Mark Morford, more outrageous than ever..

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/g/a/2005/03/04/notes030405.DTL&type=printable

CIA seizes Sen. Jackson papers

http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/05/02/15/100loc_jackson001.cfm

Five federal government officials, including three from the CIA, have removed several documents from the archival papers of the late Sen. Henry M. "Scoop" Jackson housed at the University of Washington.

Last week the federal document security team spent three days in the special collections division of the UW Suzzallo-Allen library. The officials, which also included people from the Department of Defense and Department of Energy, combed through 1,200 boxes of material using a five-binder index to find the targeted papers.

Carla Rickerson, head of special collections, said the team removed up to 10 documents.

She would not disclose the exact number or subject matter of the documents because of the university's privacy policies.

Rickerson said the papers, now considered classified, are being held in a secure location on campus until federal authorities declassify them.

The majority of the Jackson papers span his years in Congress, the period of 1940 to 1983. A portion are drawn from his pre-congressional years when he worked as a private attorney in Everett and as the Snohomish County Prosecuting Attorney.

Jackson was born in Everett and earned his lifelong nickname "Scoop" as a paper boy for The Everett Daily Herald.

Jackson's widow, Helen, donated the collection to the university following the senator's death in 1983.

At that time, a team of UW library staff removed classified information before making the files accessible.

The massive collection includes Post-It notes, constituent letters, personal correspondence, official reports and photos.

They cover a range of policy matters with a significant amount in Jackson's areas of expertise: national defense, foreign policy and the environment.

Since the documents were made available to the public, hundreds of researchers have reviewed them to gain insight about Jackson's role as a public servant.

Hi Mike! Hi Mike :-)

Hi Astroworlders and fellow lurkers:
Don't forget that Tuesday night March 8th is Shivaratri, the night when the veil between the manifest and the unmanifest is the thinnest. Chanting the mantra once equals a thousand times. I chant Om Namah Shivaya = I bow to my inner Self /Self of All.

Bhakti, I have heard (actually I was taught in astrology) that the day that the retrograde Mercury was in the same degree as the sun was the day known as the "opening of the doors of perception". Sounds like a little like Shivaratri....

Since Neptune is now 1 degree from my south node at 17 Aquarius, I have found myself cleaning up the last messes from my move of wet cardboard boxes, wet popcorn, wet magazines, in the rain, while trying to give to charity all that I no longer need....hows that for south node stuff? Not to mention....2 nights of the same dream.....
Sick with another bronchial type cold, I have slept strangely....and for the last 2 nights, the same dream.....that somehow I am a mechanical person, one half of me, that is....over and over it asserts that I am a robot, but only half of me. Then last night I see very clearly that me, this robot, can reach it's hand inside it's neck (by tearing a hole in it's neck with it's hand!) and disconnect the wires which allow it to speak. So there I am, staring at a hand inside a neck, but I refuse to reconnect the wires!

How's that for a dream? Have I reached a new level of consciousness? whew....I had such a visceral reaction to NOT reconnecting!

Pat C....any reason WHY Scoop Jackson's stuff was seized?

Mike....I was dreaming while sick, that's my excuse!!!!!

wv - the Herbst newsletter you posted is very fascinating! Thank you.

Bhakti,

thank you very much for the reminder of the time of Shivaratri ...I find it very interesting. Can you give some more history of this ?

WV - yes thanks for the Bill Herbst newsletter,.
His name is familiar although I don;t quite know why. I don't remember seeing it at Mountain Astrologer but maybe that's where.

I particularly like the way he teaches as he writes... :)

History of the Bush Administration in one
sentence.

http://forum.truthout.org/blog/story/2005/3/3/204348/2437

California judge says bloggers should not have
same rights as journalists under US Law....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4319715.stm

John Pilger has a piece on Phony Tony:

..."Let's pause to consider the truth. When Blair demonstrably lied about weapons of mass destruction in order to help an extremist regime launch an unprovoked attack on Iraq, a defenseless country, the Foreign Office's deputy legal adviser Elizabeth Wilmshurst resigned, calling it, correctly, a "crime of aggression." The blood shed by more than 100,000 civilians killed and 300,000 injured is her and our witness. Now consider the "tough new limits on arms sales." A study by ActionAid reveals that the Blair government has sold weapons to 14 impoverished African countries where there is internal conflict. The people of Aceh, stricken by last year's tsunami, have been terrorized by British-supplied Hawk fighter jets, machine guns, and ammunition. Britain is a world leader in the export of small arms, even depleted uranium."

http://www.antiwar.com/orig/pilger.php?articleid=5063

Judi Gemini,

This fellow Gemini always has upper respiratory problems when stressed... and I have difficulty throwing them off, getting well... until, I give in and rest! Our Achilles Heel, I'm afraid! Are you getting enough rest? Take care of yourself.

Jo...thanks, yes, we put our achilles heel in our lungs....also super susceptable to all type A influenzas, which this last one was....

I even have a pulled Achilles heel tendon!

And yes, the Bill Herbst piece was really interesting....

Texas Republican Congressman tells church group
that he can fly an F-15 - and just give him two
nukes and he would wipe Syria off the map.

http://207.44.245.159/article8194.htm

Hear the hate, WV?! Nuking Syria? What is it with these people... nukes??? What the hey did Syria do? The Swiss are coming in to help verify that the ex PM was killed by a suicide bomb, by the guy in the film... still Condi speaks with a fork-ed tongue and says, 1)Syria is 'involved' 2)there is no proof, but 'we' feel Syria is responsible!

Well, 'Due Process' is dead for all of us I guess. Israel wants us to attack Syria so we're going to... the Neocons have it on their agenda, so we're going to...

Now comes Senator Clinton, speaking before the Jewish Council for Foreign Affairs --- she wants Iran and Syria on a platter. Well, I hope Chelsea is ready to enlist!
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Sen. Clinton urges punishment for Syria

By DEVLIN BARRETT
Associated Press Writer

March 1, 2005, 11:46 AM EST

WASHINGTON -- Democratic Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton called Tuesday for tougher punishment against Syria, saying the country was aggressively supporting terrorism in the "dangerous neighborhood" of the Middle East.

In lambasting Syria, Clinton joined a growing chorus of officials in Washington urging the United States to take a harsher stance against that country following a Feb. 14 bombing in Beirut that killed the former premier of Lebanon.

Speaking to the Jewish Council for Public Affairs, Clinton branded Syria and Iran bad neighbors bent on upsetting the fragile balance in the region.

"It is not only a dangerous neighborhood, but a neighborhood in which very few of the neighbors are committed to what Prime Minister (Ariel) Sharon is doing or what we hope to come from the Palestinian leadership," said Clinton.

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That's IT FOR ME... Hillary can take a leap off the nearest mountain top.

I'm horrified.

I have never, ever liked Hillary Clinton, and now I know why. Unprincipled, ambitious, greedy, self-serving, and now dangerous beast.
The Clintons' new best friends are the two George Bushes. And Hillary said things are going great in Iraq.

Always scrutinize carefully and beware of politicialns, I say.

Considering Bush's Uranus transit mixed with Saturn, he might end up being the frog with the firecracker inside him.

Bush "might end up being the frog with the firecracker inside him". That's hilarious, jm. I'd pay good money to see THAT one. :-) LOL

Jonathan,

I've been busy in North Carolina with the grands for a week now, and have been meaning to ask you a question. As I recall you are involved in the theatre, right? You write I believe? Anyway, every year for decades, I have watched the Academy Awards. This year I started watching and after 30 minutes, cut the TV off. It seemed to me a terrible tragedy... Chris Rock seemed so subdued, even Robin Williams was on edge... everything moved so quickly, and yet seemed to me so disconnected.

Please give me your take on things. Was I just imagining things? I cut the TV off six months ago, so maybe nothing looks right to me anymore?

Thanks.

Billmon has a nice piece on Fox News and a German newspaper in the 20s...

http://billmon.org/archives/001737.html

March 03, 2005
People's Choice

Fox News was the only cable news network to see gains in primetime during February and beat all other cable news outlets combined for the sixth straight month. FNC averaged 1.57 million viewers in primetime, up 18% from the same period last year, while CNN fell 21% to 637,000 viewers from the same time period.

Variety
CNN flops in February as Fox News surges
March 1, 2005

The Völkischer Beobachter was since 1920 the newspaper of the National Socialist German Workers' Party (NSDAP). It first appeared weekly, and since February 8, 1923, daily . . . The circulation rose along with the success of the Nazi movement, reaching more than 120,000 in 1931 and 1.7 million by 1944.

what-means.com
Article on the Völkischer Beobachter

http://www.what-means.com/encyclopedia/V%F6lkischer_Beobachter

Wandering among the stacks, Karl discovered a trove of German newspapers from the 1930s, including the Völkischer Beobachter, the Nazi party's propaganda organ. It was all there in the papers. "Appalling stuff," he recalls . . . Hate speech. Much of it crude, if not outright vicious, but also at times insidiously clever disinformation. But it was also eye-opening . . . "For the first time," he says, "I understood how it was done, how the Germans had become so misguided."

Berlin Journal
Giving Something Back
Spring 2003

Jo

You may remember some time back that I referred
to Hillary as a Pander Bear. I haven't changed
my mind. Welcome to the club.

Thank you so much for all the kind words about my article, I feel I learn so much from all the other astrologers/posters that it reflects in my work.

I agree with everyone else that 2005 will be a learning year for us all, and no matter what, spring is still a glorious time, it awakens the spirit inside us.

It's nice to know we are all in the same page where that thought is concerned

PS Thank you Sally for your generosity by having this website.

Jo,

I never watch the Academy Awards, so I didn't see what you were referring to. But, from what I know of this year based on people who are involved with or attended the Awards, they tried out a lot of "new" things which really didn't work and people (presenters, "winners", et al.) had been warned repeatedly to be "on their best behaviour", whatever that means. Also, there was a great deal of worry about the continuing ratings slide, so that may have pressed on everybody's minds as well.

Or perhaps, after decades of watching, you're no longer as interested in them as you once were? So your perception of them this time around was different?

Just a thought.

And, yes, I am an actor/writer in theatre, film and TV. :-)

Jonathan

Yes WV, I remember... guess it takes some of us longer to "see" things... :-)

All politicians 'pander' to a certain extent, don't you think? I mean, otherwise, they would not be 'politicians'. This speech of Sen. Clinton's is truly upsetting given the shoot from the hip cowboy in the White House. She is fanning the flames... not 'presidential' material in that mode, imho...

Thank you Isabelle.

So good to hear from you, Isabelle.
Spring is here! I heard the first woodpecker of the season this morning.

I threw my television out 35 years ago, and it became increasingly difficult to follow the jerky movement, the constant yelling and false excitement, and the stiff, robotic attempted dramatic action. And the idiotic jokes and canned laughter. It's missing a dimension, and is extremely hard on the senses. Painfully unreal. I became incrementally disconnected.

Now, it is impossible to look at.

Plus.... It's always flinging things out at you with excessive force. Sucking you in and out and throwing you everywhere.

I resent that.

http://www.sfgate.com/comics/meyer/

Sally- looks like your feeling about AHHHHRRRnold
are coming true.....

An absolute must read (and I rarely say this):

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/3/4/151715/5913

OPIUM PRODUCTION TRIPLES IN AFGANISTAN
Nation on verge of becoming "NARCOTIC STATE" report finds

WASHINGTON — More than three years after a pro-U.S. government was installed, Afghanistan has been unable to contain opium poppy production and is "on the verge of becoming a narcotics state," a presidential report said today. The report said the area in Afghanistan devoted to poppy cultivation last year set a new record of 206,700 hectares, more than triple the figure for 2003.

The Afghan narcotics situation, "represents an enormous threat to world stability, the report said.

CONTINUED ~

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/world/3068584

jm, A Promise to My Grandfather: A Follow Up brought tears to my eyes. Thanks.

Dear Judi Gemini,
A fever dream, yes. But 2x. It's your dream, but it strikes me that you may be telling yourself that you feel 1/2 of you is preprogrammed, as robots are. And that you feel that utterances (at least 1/2 of them) are on "automatic pilot." Just a thought. Hope you are on the mend.

Hi all,

I have to get to bed but feel this is important. Are these control freaks going to get away with muffling our voices on the internet?

http://ct.cnet.com.com/clicks?c=59841-22312574&brand=cnet&ds=5

bob

Hillary Clinton is a high priestess in the Illuminati, Bill is a 33rd degree Mason; no surprise to me that she's decided to come out, they all are.

judi, your dream mirrors your condition, and is telling you what you need to do: move your attention forward, cease procastination and begin to fulfill your desires now, others will aid you when you begin to communicate clearly. Stop repressing what you think and feel, expressing both verbally and emotionally in a loving manner.

W - Thanks for posting the Bill Herbst newsletter. He really is very good and very clear.

I have been catching up with all the wonderful posts here. I am still not finished. Great stuff, everyone!!!

Judy, don't forget grapefruit seed extract (comes in capsule form), lots of liquids and soups, fresh citrus, other fresh squeezed juices, and good nutrition in general. Sorry about your Archilles tendon - must be painful. Give yourself what you need whatever that is :-)

Jo, Jonanthan, I heard the Award were deliberately not glitzy this year and that was fine with me (although Beyonce singing 3 songs was a bit much). I thought Chris Rock was good and I loved Jamie Foxx's and Hillary Swank's acceptance speeches - they've both had it rough. It was great that Million Dollar Baby won so many awards because it's a movie that pisses off the Right. DUers were speculating as to whether Clint Eastwood, a former Republican mayor, had taken a little detour. "A Promise to My Grandfather," made me cry, too, and do you really think Hillary & Bill are part of the illuminati, Peg? Do we know for sure that there is such a thing? My stepson just bought a bunch of reading material about this subject but I know very little. What about Yale's Skull & Bones, does it factor in?

*************Hillary Sucks*************

just thought i'd say it before i go to bed (early am work tomorrow...bummer).

and judy gemeni, the last time i dreamed while sick was 26 years ago. i was in the old city, jerusalem staying at a hotel formerly occupied by the JERUSALEM, KNIGHTS HOSPITALER. i had 104 degree fever and i dreamed that mohamed was atop a white horse and ascending to heaven through the Dome of the Mount. thanks for reminding me (i don't get sick much). you're excused.

and shylurker, what's your excuse?

I have a weird sense of humor. This makes me smile:

"JUDGE SAYS WEB SITES CAN BE FORCED TO REVEAL SOURCES... "

heh heh - can you imagine any of us testifying as to where we got our information????

he-he-he " well you honor (not), Pluto was opposite his anus, so I knew we ......

"uh - well - this spirit appeared to me in a dream and told me...."

Mr. Mike, your question is intriguing. My excuse for what?

Inquiring minds want to know. (Ouida May has an exquisitely blissful smile on her face as I write this. She's lately taken to levitating above the lilac bushes there under the bed. I expect a magnificent profusion of blooms beginning in a few days.)

WV: many thanks for the Bill Herbst article. He's a great writer. Mr. Herbst mentions that Bush may surprise us with "a surprise war, anywhere". I'm coming to that conclusion, myself. We are always looking out at the world from our own vantage point. We see others as we see ourselves. And in the case of Bush, this is dangerous thinking.

The rest of the world is quickly arming itself with as much arms as it can get its hands on.

While the lunatics in Washington belligerently rant on, the world has understood completely. The US government is in the hands of lunatics. I read posts every day that say, "Bush can't go into Iran, because his hands are tied in Iraq". Or, "He won't attack because that would be crazy".

The ONE thing we have to start thinking is, EXPECT ANYTHING. Expect absolutely anything from these people. Do NOT assume, just because the money is running out, so will their plans.

If anything, that will push them harder than before, to frantically go for the Brass Ring which is always receding from their grasp.

They want to conquer the world and defeat will not do the obvious: stop them. In will, in fact, goad them into more reckless and wild gambling, especially when it comes to oil.

Desperation will make them more bold, not less.

If there was $5.00 left in the treasury, trust me they would go out and buy 1 last hand grenade, and borrow $100.00 to go buy some more.

Washington is currently witnessing huge setbacks, enormous losses (see: Chavez signs oil deal with India. Iran & Russian developments at the DU). What we are seeing is just a small sample of what's happening very rapidly. The world is moving quickly to conter the Neo-Cons.

Expect anything.

A HISTORY OF THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION IN ONE SENTENCE

By William Pitt~

Just because the Supreme Court set a poison precedent and appointed Bush, who brought in his crowd of neocon yahoos that no one discussed during the 2000 campaign because we 'Muricans vote for the man and not the mob of frothing dogs that come in his wake, just because the twin bill of unreasonably massive tax cuts were combined with economic depth-charge that was the Enron/Arthur Andersen scandal that was umbilically connected to the White House, just because the economy (not to mention our whole psyche) absorbed another blow when four commercial airplanes somehow managed to pierce the most impenetrable air defense system in the history of the universe, fooling the entire intelligence community as well if you believe what you hear on Fox... despite a blizzard of warnings and a raft of information from the previous administration, just because a bunch of anthrax got mailed to Democrats by the Ashcroft wing of the Republican Party in what were obvious assassination attempts and yet nothing but nothing has been done about it, just because the 9/11 attack was immediately and I mean the day after immediately grasped as an excuse to invade Iraq, just because virtually everyone in the administration lied with their bare faces hanging out about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, terrorism ties in Iraq, so break out the plastic sheeting and duct tape because we're all gonna die, just because they did this in no small part to win the 2002 midterms by any means necessary, just because 1,502 American soldiers have been killed looking for the 26,000 liters of anthrax, 38,000 liters of botulinum toxin, 500 tons (which is 1,000,00 lbs.) of sarin and mustard and VX nerve agent, 30,000 munitions to deliver the stuff, mobile biological weapons labs, arial drones to spray the aforementioned stuff, and let's not forget the uranium from Niger for use in Iraq's robust nukular program, all of which was described to the letter by Bush in his 2003 State of the Union address, all of which remains on the White House website on a page titled 'Disarm Saddam Hussein,' just because the medical journal Lancet estimates that as many as 198,000 Iraqi citizens have been killed as well in the war to get at this stuff, just because none of the stuff was there, and by the way nonee of the stuff was there, and did I mention that none of the stuff was there, just because the idea that Hussein was allied with bin Laden was laughable because Osama has wanted Saddam's head on his battle standard for decades, just because the true source of world terrorism, which is Wahabbist extremism in Saudi Arabia, goes completely unaddressed because the Houses of Bush and Saud have been partnered for decades, just because so much of 9/11 and this 'War on Terra' has to do with business arrangements going awry between these two Houses, just because a deep-cover CIA agent who was working to track any person or nation or group that would give weapons of mass destruction to terrorists got her cover and her network blown by Administration officials who wanted to shut her husband and any other potential whistleblowers the hell up, just because the front company she was working out of called Brewster Jennings and Associates was likewise blown, thus torpedoing other agents and their networks, just because absolutely all of this went virtually unreported by the mainstream media until it was too late, if it was reported at all, just because dangerous spies like Ahmad Chalabi used Judy Miller and the New York Times to disseminate the lie that Iraq was riddled with weapons, thus opening the floodgates for the rest of the media to repeat the lie because once the Times says it, it must be true, just because this lack of reporting combined with an astounding level of cheerleading from the aforementioned media combined with some good old-fashioned vote fraud in places like Ohio, Florida and New Mexico gave the aforementioned group of yahoos four more years and a congressional majority in both houses of congress, just because this means the Iraq war will continue and Iran will probably be next and draconian legislation further restricting our rights will get passed along with things like the Bankruptcy bill and media reform of any kind will be nowhere on the menu, just because a lot of the Justices on the Supreme Court are sure to step down or die soon and Bush will be able to recraft that high court for the next 20 years, just because the Christian Reconstructionists are becoming mainstream with their goal of having every American singing "Rock of Ages, Cleft for Me" in a droning monochromatic hypnotized voice all day every day... ...doesn't mean anyone should be worried or anything. Get a grip.

Get a grip. So clever.

Sen. Byrd's Nazi Comments Draw GOP Heat

By Alan Fram
Associated Press
Thursday, March 3, 2005; 3:50 AM

Sen. Robert Byrd's description of Adolf Hitler's rise to power was meant as a warning to heed the past and not as a comparison to Republicans, a spokesman for the West Virginia Democrat says.

Nonetheless, two Jewish groups and a pair of GOP politicians chastised the senator on Wednesday, including one who recalled Byrd's Ku Klux Klan membership as a young man. Byrd's comments, which he made Tuesday in the Senate, came during his speech criticizing a Republican plan to block Democrats from filibustering President Bush's judicial nominees.

...Abraham H. Foxman, national director of the Anti-Defamation League, said Byrd's remarks showed "a profound lack of understanding as to who Hitler was" and that the senator should apologize to the American people. He called the comparison "hideous, outrageous and offensive."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A3378-2005Mar3.html

Re my post above --- Sen Byrd and the Anti-Defamation League...

... Abraham H. Foxman, national director of the Anti-Defamation League, said Byrd's remarks showed "a profound lack of understanding as to who Hitler was" and that the senator should apologize to the American people. He called the comparison "hideous, outrageous and offensive."

On the contrary, Senator Byrd indeed understands who and what Hitler was... he did indeed rise to power by overriding the law, creating his own rules. Sound familiar? Mr. Foxman ties fascism to gas chambers. No gas chambers, no fascism.

It's a shame 'educated' and informed people continue to hand out disinformation; i.e., 'Nazis' were members of a political party... the National Socialist Party of Germany; fascism is a form of government. So one can call/name this present regime in US fascism without making a connection to Nazis in Germany. After all, Italy was fascist. Second point: While Jews did die in WWII at least 60 to 70 MILLION Europeans and Asians also died. [google it up] Hitler and the atrocities of WWII were extensive, covering the planet. (which is why it is called a WORLD WAR)...

In summary, one does not have to gas Jews to be a Fascist. Our present day fascist regime is occupied with the genocide of Muslims in particular. However, they are using 'liberals' as their whipping boy... and they don't really care who else falls into their nets as long as they get their perpetual wars. Many Jews are liberals (most in fact, right?)... so, they are also targets of these Neocons, as well as 'feminists'... and anyone else who opposes their agenda.

Labels stink. We are all multi-faceted beings... we wear many 'labels' at once. These greedy power hungry people are determined to secure all the resources for themselves, not for 'Americans'... in fact, they are dismantling the gov't structure that provides a safety net for the aged, the infirm, the handicapped, the children... the hierarchy is becoming more 'pointed' --- that is, fewer people at the top, none in the middle and the rest of us on the bottom. They use ‘labels’ to divide us, to pit us against each other.

Which is why Dean is a danger to them... he advocates rule from the bottom up... imagine the arrogance!

Wolfowitz out of running for chief of World Bank

March 04 2005

Paul Wolfowitz, the US deputy defence secretary, is no longer in the running to head the World Bank, its president said yesterday.
"Mr Wolfowitz is no longer part of the exercise," James Wolfensohn said in Brussels after meeting Jose Manuel Barroso, the European Commission president.

http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/34614.html

Juan Cole this a.m.

Saturday, March 05, 2005
US-Engineered Lebanese Elections of 1957

Josh Buermann of Flagrancy to Reason has dug up a printed source for the allegation I reported from a former USG official, that the CIA engineered the 1957 Lebanese elections (and so helped to provoke the mini-civil war of 1958). He writes:

From the March 31st, 1997 New York Times:

In Lebanon in 1957, the CIA supported Christian parties with U.S. government money and donations by American oil companies that wanted to insure a friendly government in Lebanon, a pivotal Middle Eastern country.

Wilbur Crane Eveland, a CIA officer, later described driving his gold and white DeSoto onto the grounds of President Camille Chamoun's residence in Beirut and delivering political payoffs.

"Throughout the elections, I traveled regularly to the presidential palace with a briefcase full of Lebanese pounds, then returned late at night to the embassy with an empty twin case" to be replenished with CIA money, Eveland wrote in "Ropes of Sand" in 1980, a history of American policy failures in the Middle East.

http://www.juancole.com/2005/03/us-engineered-lebanese-elections-of.html

See also:

FRONTLINE

COVER STORY
A stick to beat Syria with

http://www.flonnet.com/fl2205/stories/20050311002902800.htm

Ayoon wa Azan (Wait and See)
Jihad Al Khazen Al-Hayat 2005/03/3

I will not ask what everyone is asking: who killed Rafiq Hariri? I will not insist like those insisting that Syria is behind the assassination; I will not predict with the forecasters and tell what the future will bring, but I will only focus on the Lebanese critical and explosive situation that followed the horrible crime.

http://english.daralhayat.com/opinion/OPED/03-2005/Article-20050303-69dfa700-c0a8-10ed-0022-da17d47e92a0/story.html

This is too funny!

http://www.unitedmedia.com/editoons/luckovich/archive/luckovich-20050304.html

http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/

Bush Expresses Regret to Italians Over Collateral Damage: Nicola Calipari Dead, Giuliana Sgrena Wounded

Some Italians tonight are asking if America is their friend, who needs enemies?

What are these soldiers at check-points thinking? Shoot first and ask questions later?

If Iraq is indeed tilting the way of democracy, then these kind of incidents are certainly going to disrupt progress. I have a hard time believing that we aren't in the process of initiating a whole new round of blood feuds, revenge, and blowback of all sorts for these 'regretted accidents.'

This "Nicola Calipari" seems to have been a true hero, someone who went into real danger to save the lives of kidnapped Italians.

But Bush expressed regret, promised an investigation, etc. The bottom line is that we have troops at check-points who are so fearful for their lives that they are trigger-happy and shoot just about anything that they don't understand.

The answer is to either smarten up our soldiers or get them out. This death is going to sour much of whatever cosmetic good just came from Bush's trip to Europe.

It's very sad, even more so because it was avoidable.

-- Steve Clemons

A good friend of mine told me of a bumper sticker she saw this week. It read: "Give War a Chance."

It occurs to me that, although we have placed unseasoned kids, 19 and 20 year old teenagers behind machine guns and tanks in Iraq, the Italian contingent with the reporter may have seen the checkpoint and the uniforms, but knowing that many of the kidnappers who she just escaped from wear US or Iraqui police uniforms, they may have speeded up to avoid what they could have perceived as another kidnapping potential.

They DID NOT speed up... 300/400 rounds of ammunition were fired on the car... then their cells were disabled, so help could not be called for... they were disconnected from Italian gov't offices where they were previously plugged in...

dKos has two diaries... one Kossack in Italy is transcribing the Italian news reports... they are saying the attack was DELIBERATE...

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/3/5/9747/20502

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/3/5/82428/79456

Please, someone, go over to

http://www.allhatnocattle.com

and go to the end of the weekend edition. Lisa always posts a nice picture at the end.

Look at the symbols on the ancient Chinese die. What do you see?

This may explain the CIA's keen interest in the Jackson archive.

From Slate, via
http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2002/020823-darkness.htm

"As a staffer for the fiercely anti-Communist Sen. Henry "Scoop"
Jackson, D-Wash., in the 1970s, Perle established himself as "the
quintessential Washington operator," as the Washington Post's Robert
Kaiser described him in 1977 in a nearly 3,700-word profile, an unusual
amount of space to devote to a Senate staffer, even the right-hand man
for the senator from Boeing. (Like some other neocons, Perle sometimes
reminds reporters that he's a registered Democrat, though he's been
associated with Republican administrations and candidates for two
decades.) Under Jackson's tutelage, Perle had become one of
Washington's most powerful figures, a Cold Warrior who worked to
squelch arms control agreements and pushed the Senate to adopt a hard
line against the Soviet Union. He helped Jackson scuttle detente,
particularly by tying trade benefits to the right of Soviet Jews to
emigrate to Israel."

shylurker, astrological symbols?

http://www.tomdispatch.com/

Schwartz on Why the Military Is Failing in Iraq

That's what I thought I saw, Pat C. I know astrology is very ancient, but I was startled to see what appeared to me (and you) to be Leo, Cancer, etc., on a die from the Han dynasty in China. !! Thanks so much for double-checking.

Amazing Ironies. Striking Similarities &
Curious Coincidences of Two Suspicious Events

http://www.rense.com/general63/ccur.htm

Mz Shylurker,

'cuz I love you so, I did a little research for you...

The origins of Chinese astrology were believed to be passed down from the Sumerian and Babylonian cultures to the Chinese almost 5 000 years ago. To put this in perspective, this was a few hundred years before the building of the Great Pyramid of Giza and over 2000 years before the "Golden Age" of Greek philosophy, where most of the western constellations got their names.

http://www.feng-shui-institute.org/astrology.htm

With regard to the die shown at Allhatnocattle, it dates from an ancient game called Liubo... and if you'll read the following you may discern Lisa had her reasons for including this particular "gem" and relevant comments:

Xiangqi was evolved from an ancient game called Liubo. Liubo was first mentioned in Sima Qiang's Shiji- Yan Bunji, which recorded Emperor Wu Yi as a cruel king. Wu Yi wanted to prove that his power surpassed that of divine by playing Liubo against god. He made a statue and named it god, then he asked his official to play on behalf of it. Not wanting to cross the king, the officials would naturally let Wu Yi win. Wu Yi thus proceeded to insult god.

Liubo was a ancient Chinese board game. liu meant six, bo sticks.

Each of the two players had six pieces (called qi), one king and five pawns. Goal of the game was to kill the opponent's king. A dice (called zhuo) was used to determine the moves.

The game was played in the Zhanguo era (4th century BC) and became popular during the Han Dynasties (206 BC - 220 AD).

--------
Shylurker,

"Wu Yi wanted to prove that his power surpassed that of divine by playing Liubo against god."

Sound like anybody you know? Namaste

Here's a link to Reporters without Borders and a tally on number of journalists killed since beginning of invasion of Iraq almost two years ago.

http://www.rsf.org/sgrena-en.php3

Oh, Jo, that is absolutely priceless! Only you would/could track down that gem!! I wonder who played god? Wu Yi's KKKKarl? Mr. Mike will have to tell us the name of the god-player. That's clearly within his bailiwick.

Many, many thanks, Jo! You take the cake.

"White" supremacist malebot fun n' games...

http://www.gallerym.com/pixs/photogs/pulitzer/images/vietnam_napalm.jpg

Joanna,

Feeling is very strong US used napalm and other nasties on Fallujah... word is that Guiliana Sgrena was writing about Fallujah and napalm when she was 'kidnapped by insurgents'...

Firebombing Falluja

......... by Mike Whitney December 01, 2004

http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=15&ItemID=6772

Presna Latina says

"At the time of the February 4 abduction Giuliana was working on a report on the people that sought refuge ata mosque in Faluja past the Pentagon air raid against the Sunny bastion and Sgrena had questioned the invasion of the Middle East country by the US-British coalition."

http://www.plenglish.com/article.asp?ID=%7BADAEF418-FDF1-414A-946E-2975C96E3FFA%7D&language=EN

I have no doubt at all, Jo, that the sadistic boyz are using these torture/death items awa depleted uranium on Peoples in more places than the Mid East... that includes the bad ol' US of A.

33things you should know about the Middle East
and America....

http://207.44.245.159/article8198.htm

Ken Livingston, Mayor of London, speaks out about
Israel and Sharon....

http://207.44.245.159/article8192.htm

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000085&sid=aRueVtaX.ri0&refer=europe

How interesting. The Italian reporter almost killed by US troops is talking to prosecutors. Hmmmmm. And just where will this lead?

Also, Jo, I was wondering about how Eason Jordan may be feeling these days.

Shylurker,

Justified, I am sure. I'm also sure he (Eason) got the better end of the deal.

The Italian gov't is ordering an inquiry into Nicola Calipari's death and they are charging MURDER...

Remember the huge memorial service the Italians had for the 20 troops killed in Iraq? They are going to have a State funeral for Calipari... they are not going away on this... they expect answers to their questions. Sgrena is to give a statement to Italian authorities tonight or tomorrow....

Here's an article from Wayne Marsden. Since he's not being harassed (that I've heard) or censored, the "powers that be" must not be too worried about his articles. Wonder if anything will ever, ever come of these revelations? I won't hold my breath.

http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/030305Madsen/030305madsen.html

It's Saturday night, so go have some fun. The means you, too, Dave.

http://www.thefrown.com/things/becomerepublican/

I don't want to sound a negative note, but I do have an observation:
When extrememly long links are posted here, the message text
is stretched out so far that the original post is impossible to
read. That greatly diminishes the usefulness of the blog (unless one
copies-and-pastes the text into a word proccessing program like MS Word).

Is is possible for Sally to input a code into the
blogging software that would force it to disregard
overlong URLs? That would be a great help for
readers put off by text that overruns the page.

Hello again,
I have read the articles by Juan Cole and Sam Hamoud. They are impressive, but they speak of half truths. From the population count of Lebanon today to the Falange carrying English signs in the "demonstrations of only 3000." I have held back until now because I feel everybody's opinion is worth reading. Just be careful of those who give you the so called "facts."
I was born in Beirut, reared in Beirut and speak and read the language. I do not think that Hariri was "forced' to resign. He resigned because President Lahoud was allowed to extend his term, thanks to the Syrian controlled Lebanese parliament and cabinet which changed the Lebanese Constitution in order to allow such an extension. The way I hear it and read it, the MOST of Lebanon is sick of the Syrian "CIA" in Lebanon, and if you read your history all the way back, the Lebanese are a fractious bunch who hate everybody. Nobody has really been able to totally dominate the country for any length of time. And incidentally, they are not Phoenicians, although the extreme Right Wing Christians of the country wanted and still want you to think they are. Historical research says otherwise. Like their Phoenician cousins, however, the Lebanese...and I mean all the Lebanese...are not only very sophisticated merchants, but quite politically savvy. Most Lebanese are able to speak three languages with varying degrees of fluency, and will learn what ever language it takes to close the deal economically. Merchants of the highest order. Gemini in the 4th house, noon day chart. Most of the placards in that demonstration were in both Arabic and English. And yes, they played to the camera, because they knew the whole world was watching.
And yes, we all know that the CIA helped bring on the wars of 1958 and there after. And we know that Israel has always wanted southern Lebanon as part of Greater Israel (the Litani River in snowy, southern Lebanon is the originating source of the Jordan River). Control the Jordon at it source, control Palestine. And we know that it would suit Israel to have the Syrians pull back from Lebanon. And we know that the US supports an Israeli foreign policy, BUT the Lebanese have grown weary of Syria. They are in effect saying to Syria that "we thank your for your help during the Civil War," (if one could really call it that...more like a testing ground of all that was to come in the Middle East after that war, a rehearsal of sorts by all the major powers) "but now it's time to leave. And we are going to try and Lebanese-ize the major part of Hezbollah in the South..." The majority of the Lebanese Opposition Party cuts across cultural, religious, economic boundries. It is gaining strength. They will agree with god or the devil (political pragmatists, the Lebanese; never forget that)if it gets the Syrians out of Lebanon. They will play ball with Condi, Sharon, Assad and Putin if it gets the Syrians out of Lebanon.

Hope you find this helpful.

HaHa Shylurker!

I've been invited out to a bar with some people and then an afterparty. Waiting to find out where we're going.

Sorry I've been MIA lately. I've been working two jobs and trying to build up my spiritual and financial bank account. Since I'm an Aquarian, Chiron has been making my life rather busy.

Unfortunately, I have little political to say at this time that has not already been said by one person or another. I have also found that it is usually best to reamin silent and be thought a fool (or a whatever) than to speak and remove all doubt.

BTW, there's an (almost) grand cross of some kind in about an hour. Been feeling the energy since the afternoon. See PlanetWaves for more details.

shylurker, i was referring to you, as a left coster, having 'no' excuswe for not posting later on the forum. what would i know about god, i don't even believe in her. tell me more, i'm sure i'll have an opinion.

Thank you Beasley, it was helpful.
Dave, I think it safe to say we all think of you and wish you good fortune, spiritually & financially. (Leo here, with Chiron conjunct my Jupiter in my 7th house of Aquarius- I wish me good furtune also, lol.)

Guiliana Sgrena writes an article in this a.m.'s Il Manifesto... a kossack in Italy has written a diary at dKos. Here's the link if you care to read it. Sgrena insists, in contradiction to the US story:

"the driver had communicated twice by cellphone to the [Italian] embassy and once to the government in Italy that we were headed to the airport"

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/3/6/61252/85294

Forgive me if this is a silly question, but I'm just seeking to clarify what I already suspect.

Dave (or someone) mentioned above that "as an Aquarius" he's been really busy lately because of Chiron. Now, checking my astro info, I see that Chiron is currently entering Aquarius (and, again, if this has been covered already, I implore you to have patience with me) then retroing back into Cap and then moving direct into Aquarius in December 2005.

Is Chiron a planet that brings a lot of activity (physical, emotional, spiritual, etc.) to the sign it moves through? I've always known him simplistically as "the wounded healer". Is he also "the busybody"?

Just curious. Thanks!

Mr. Mike, you have to view the context, then you'll understand. See my post at 4:13, Jo's at 6:25 and mine at 7:09. The results of Jo's research are just wonderful.

Jonathan,

I am wondering about that, too. I'm an early degree Aquarius and suddenly the two people closest to me are both (in different cities and situations) up to their necks in alligators. I'm shuttling between them while both demand (and need) full attention.

Barbara

Barbara,

Up to their necks in alligators? Eeek! Are you speaking metaphorically or ... ? LOL Hopefully we can figure out the effects Chiron might have on a Sign as it passes through. :-)

As a learning exercise, what planets and houses do you guys (Dave, Barbara & anyone else) have in early Aquarius (early Leo, Scorpio, Taurus)and what else aspects them? Then I guess come other levels such as the rulers of those planets & houses. I do not yet have a clear grasp of that and no time to read up on it yet :-)

Don't forget that Chiron is also called the 'inconvenient benefic'. Tell me about it. When it was in early Cap on my Sun, NNode, MC and Mercury I learned lessons about my career that were painful but in the long run were better for me. I needed to take more leadership and be proactive. Be a maverick in marketing my work and to get work.
Transit Chiron just went over natal Chiron at 26 Cap 10H. It feels like a rebirth of myself. Transit Chiron in Aquar is also conjuncting Progressed Chiron at 1 degree Aquarius 11H.

Pallas,
Google 'Kashmir Shavism' about the night of Shivaratri. I believe this ancient religion was a goddess cult way before Hinduism arrived on the scene. The belief of Shiva as nonduality and duality simultaneously.

Buffett deepens Dollar worries....

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/14d1fb9c-8da0-11d9-a4d2-00000e2511c8.html

She IS a Republican....

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March 6, 2005
As Clinton Wins G.O.P. Friends, Her Rivals' Task Toughens
By RAYMOND HERNANDEZ

he intimate gathering at a private home in Corning, N.Y., was pretty typical for an upstate fund-raiser featuring Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton: dozens of donors clustered in the terrace, listening to her speak, as they sipped wine and nibbled on hors d'oeuvres.

But one thing made the event unusual: The host was a prominent Republican businessman whose brother Amo Houghton was the popular nine-term Republican congressman from the area who, it turns out, gives Mrs. Clinton, a Democrat, an "A-plus" for the job she is doing.

His brother James, chairman of Corning Inc., agreed. "When I introduced Hillary, I told the crowd that the last time a Houghton had a fund-raiser for a Democrat was about 1812," he said.

With her 2006 re-election campaign approaching, New York Republican leaders vow to rally party loyalists in a broad effort to topple Mrs. Clinton, who has long engendered deep antipathy on the right.

But as the fund-raiser last year in the heavily Republican town of Corning illustrated, the party may have a bit of a problem on its hands.

In the four years since taking office, Mrs. Clinton has managed to cultivate a bipartisan, above-the-fray image that has made her a surprisingly welcome figure in some New York Republican circles, even as she remains exceedingly popular with her liberal base.

A recent poll by The New York Times, for example, showed that Mrs. Clinton's popularity had sharply improved among Republicans voters surveyed, with 49 percent saying they approved of the job she was doing, compared with 37 percent who expressed similar sentiments in October 2002.

But perhaps nothing demonstrates her improved standing with the opposition as much as the close ties she has forged with many leading Republican officials in the state, who say that they have been pleasantly surprised by what they describe as the nuts-and-bolts pragmatism of her style.

Only five years ago, for example, Representative Thomas M. Reynolds of Buffalo mocked Mrs. Clinton as a "a tourist who has lost her way," alluding to the fact that she had not lived in New York before deciding to run for the Senate.

But these days, Mr. Reynolds, a Republican who is frequently mentioned as a possible candidate for speaker of the House, says he considers Ms. Clinton an ally in his effort to deliver aid to western New York.

In fact, he said that his work with Mrs. Clinton had prompted the local newspaper in his district to call them the "odd couple."

"I like Senator Clinton," said Mr. Reynolds, a friend and adviser to Gov. George E. Pataki. "I've found that when she says she will take on a job with me, she does it."

But surely Mr. Reynolds wants a Republican to take Mrs. Clinton's seat, no? "New York is a big blue state," he responded, referring to the states with large Democratic voter enrollment. "I will work with whoever the electorate puts in those positions."

Nobody expects top Republicans like Mr. Reynolds to cross party lines and endorse Mrs. Clinton. But some political strategists say the Republican Party will have a hard time making a strong case against her, since she will be able to point to the positive reviews she has gotten from her Republican colleagues over the year.

"It certainly helps to neutralize the attacks against her," said Lee M. Miringoff, the director of the Marist Institute for Public Opinion in Poughkeepsie, N.Y.

The emerging view of Mrs. Clinton among leading New York Republicans would have been unimaginable four years ago, when her political rivals cast her as a carpetbagger who had no real interest in New York beyond seeing it as a springboard to the presidency.

Political analysts say that Mrs. Clinton's improved standing reflects her meticulous efforts to win over critics - as well as the tendency among politicians to look past party differences and find common interests once in office.

But these strategists also say that the unusually open support she is enjoying among Republicans highlights a lack of party discipline that has been plaguing the New York Republican Party in recent years.

Mr. Miringoff said that many rank-and-file Republicans apparently felt they had less to lose in bucking the party leadership than in straining relations with a highly popular United States senator.

"It's a party that is really hurting," Mr. Miringoff said, referring to Republicans. "And so self-interest and self-preservation are taking over."

The Republicans giving Mrs. Clinton high marks include Representative John M. McHugh, who represents New York's economically beleaguered North Country, a politically conservative region that Mrs. Clinton visits frequently.

In an interview, the congressman said that Mrs. Clinton had been helpful to him from her seat on the Senate Armed Services Committee in steering money to Fort Drum, an Army base in Watertown that provides an economic lift to the area.

"Our other senators have been helpful," he said, referring to the work Mrs. Clinton's predecessors have done on behalf of Fort Drum. "But they have not had the advantage of being on the authorizing committee."

As for the 2006 Senate race, he did not sound particularly enthusiastic about the prospect of campaigning against Mrs. Clinton. "We share constituents," explained Mr. McHugh, "and, frankly, the challenges are big enough without erecting artificial partisan barriers."

Another Republican, Representative Peter T. King of Nassau County, struck a similar note in recent interview. He described Mrs. Clinton as a celebrity senator who is willing to take a subordinate role on an issue she cares about, rather than allowing her involvement to become a distraction.

For instance, Mr. King recalled an occasion when Mrs. Clinton suggested that he find another senator to be a co-sponsor of legislation that would benefit New York, because she figured that her presence on the bill would fire up the opposition. "There are very few politicians in public life who have the composure to step back, knowing that they will win in the end," he said.

Mr. King also said that Mrs. Clinton had been anything but the liberal extremist that her conservative critics accused her of being. "I'm not going to vote for her and probably disagree with her on 70 percent of the issues," he said. "But I think that too many Republicans who criticize Hillary Clinton sound like Michael Moore criticizing George Bush."

Hillary may visit North Korea...

http://interestalert.com/brand/siteia.shtml?Story=st/sn/03060000aaa008e8.upi&Sys=rmmiller&Fid=NATIONAL&Type=News&Filter=National%20News

Well, still sick but not as much as....ever since the conj. of the south node of the eclipse on my ascendant in Oct 2004, I have been fighting ill health and a miserable immune system. Thanks so much for all the good wishes, and Beasley, I am right with you on the robot dream; I think someone else weighed in on that too, and I agree with all of it. Mike...that was a pretty terrific dream! Very archtypal! whew!!!!

I think it is interesting what Hillary Clinton is doing. She is a realist above all.....and was once upon a time, a Repub....her father was a prominent Repub in IL....so it isn't that she is 'selling out'.....sounds like she is trying to do A GOOD JOB. I still like her...but I am also similar in astrology to her....so I see what she is up to and it doesn't bother me.

Jo....you have been sick in the last 6 months if I remember, also....your posts since then have really been amazing....thanks , to all of you....

PS...as for my illnesses and weakened immune system.....Neptune is exactly conjunct my south node (well, mine is 17 Aquarius, so one degree away)....poisonsl dissoving....! etc.....in fact, this is the same placement that happened when my father died (my solar arc progression to 9/11/60 had the nodal axis conj, my MC/IC....and my mother's nodal axis for her progression was conj. her asc./des! Have any of you astrologers seen this kind of pattern in deaths with parents/children and the nodal axis?) ....

In a few weeks, will we be saying, "World Bank rocks!"?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7109561/

To accuse Senator Clinton of being a Republican just because she's doing her best to work with the Republicans who represent the very Republican parts of Upstate New York (who are, after all, her constituents as well) is beyond unfair.

We always demand so much of those who represent us. And, oftentimes, I inwardly rail at the Repubs who play only to their "base" and are grossly partisan, ignoring those in their State or District who might have voted for "the other guy". Is it asking too much to applaud a politician who is working with "the other side" to do a good job for her constituents?

I just guess there are some who, no matter what she does, will always find something to bitch about. Which is one reason I would never be a politician.

It is miserable, isn't it, Jonathan, to think that as taxpayers, if you live in an area where you are the minority party, that you aren't being represented because the representative is of a different party? I agree with you....and I think Congress should pass no laws based on 'morality' either, as one man's morals may be anathema to someone else...

Bhakti...I have Chiron conj. my north node in Leo in the 10th....it is being opposed by Neptune now also, and I feel 'wrung out' of my career.

First my robot self destructs, now my wounded healer is under attack! I guess the message is about seeing the reality of my career now....not much of which is left standing in the dissolving power of Neptune.

Not to mention that the IRS just told me they are putting a lien on my bank account. Now I am forced to live underground with no bank account!

Beasley....thanks for the comments on Syria and Lebanon....that one post allowed me NOT to have to read any of the other stuff in the paper! I was pretty sick with this Syria/Lebanon encounter began and missed most of it....I have disconnected from much of the world disorder....

Peg....what the hell is the Illuminati? If she was a 'high priestess of the Illuminati, I'm sure the Rethugs would have been on THAT.... And my great grandfather was a 33rd degree Mason...no bogeyman here. Masons founded this country.....not that most of them are of THAT calibur of personage as the founding fathers! I think Catholics hate Masons, but that's all I know about that....no one ever invited ME to be high priestess in the Illuminati...sounds fun, where do I apply?

Oh God, is anyone watching DateLine and the expose on Benny Hinn, the fundie "quack" healer on those Christian channels. He told one woman that she was healed of lung Cancer, but she died two months later. He lives in a $10 mil mansion and has his own plane.

What an evil man to prey on the hopes and fears of others. This man is satanic and evil.

I would like to hear comments from others. Hinn should read the book that he loves so much.

"Verily, I say, that a rich man shall hardly enter the kingdom of heaven" Matthew 19:23

Judi Gemini,

Sorry to hear of your troubles...if you don't mind
my suggesting...GET YOUR MONEY OUT OF ANY BANK WITH YOUR SOC SEC # ON IT - leave $50 or something...I don;t think they can take any money out of the account, unless it's the full amount that you owe..( I could be wrong) so dont keep more than $150 in it or so to pay electric and phone etc...

Lawyers advertise on tv all the time that they settle what you owe the IRS for pennies on the dollar. Have you tried anything like that, or to negotiate?

...many states post the owners or directors of companies on line...but Nevada doesn't. There are people who form a corporation,and get a tin # instead of using their social, they use their tin # and maiden name and open a corporate account, because the corporation doesn't owe. Wondering if that's something you should look into.

Just throwing out some ideas - hope they're helpful.

Back again.
Now comes the hard part. Hezbollah will be demonstrating their allegiance to Syria and to NOT disarming on Tues. the 8th of March.
As Lebanon's 4th house is interesting and difficult, it remains to be seen what is going to happen ultimately. And stranger than fiction, some of the Syrian bought Maronite Christians may ally with their ancient Moslem nemisis, the Shia of the south, i.e. Hezbollah. Soon Uranus will be making an exact 150 degree aspect (among other things)to Lebanon's Pluto in Leo in the 6th house of armies ( among other things.
I don't blame Hezbollah for it's outrage. I just hope that some clear and miraculous event will happen to bring all of Lebanon together. Wishful thinking. The Opposition party has got to do some pretty sophisticated footwork.
Salute, Judi Gemini.

Jonathan,

Hillary has crossed the line....beyond centrist and further to the right. The "centrist" ideology is what killed the liberal democratic party, and
elected a majority republican House and Senate.

Being a liberal democrat myself, when she backed off support of abortion rights, and said she understood the anti-abortionists, as well as other issues important to liberal democrats, my mind was made up. I would never vote for her.

Her romancing the republicans is not just trying to get along...when did republicans ever have fund raisers for democrats?

Deals are being made -with republicans - and they're not going to benefit any liberal democrat ideology or issue.

Pallas18,

I greatly enjoy your writing and am continually impressed with your astrological skill. But on this "Hillary issue", I respectfully disagree with you.

I've worked with Hillary before (during her 2000 campaign) and have seen firsthand how she broadens her perspective on an issue as she dives into it and learns more about it. Personally, I'd much rather have that than someone who believes that he/she is right and that's that. That's where you get into a black/white, us/them, wrong/right mentality.

Having an understanding of something does not mean you agree with it. It's just a polite way of neutralizing what could be a very hot issue. And, in the interest of getting things done for one's constituents, neutralizing a hot issue in order to focus on the task at hand is, in my opinion, a good thing.

I like the fact that Hillary is working with Republicans right now. Makes it much more difficult to paint her as a fire-breathing Liberal and helps ensure that we won't get some bobble-headed Repug beating her in 2006.

Finally, say what you will about her, Hillary can and has stood up to Bush on several issues. I don't know that a Republican Senator from New York would do the same.

Have a great evening, all. I'm off to bed. :-)

Jonathan

Jonathan

I'm against a one party system in the United States...especially when that party is fascist.

Cooperation "expanding understanding" is not going to defeat what is happening in this country.

Such cooperation is tacit agreement....to the
"New World Order".

Pallas!

I said nothing about a One Party System or Fascism in my post. And I don't think that Hillary is responsible for bringing that about! Is that what you're trying to accuse her with: creating a Fascist America?

I don't think you are, of course. And I agree that we do need an Opposition Party to fight Bush. And Hillary, as well as others, has done and will continue to do that. But to accuse her of bringing a Fascist State to America because she happens to be working side-by-side with some Republicans in New York to get things done for the people who elected her is a bit confusing.

Don't we want our Representatives to work together to do what needs to be done for our States and Districts? Or is that just talk? And how can we complain about stalemates in the Senate and the House and then accuse those Dems (or Republicans, 'cause both sides get beamed with verbal fast-balls when they work with the "enemy") when they work together of Fascism or worse? (although I don't know what can be worse than Fascism)

Again, I just respectfully disagree with you. And now I really do have to get some shut-eye. You don't know the number of misspellings (I just misspelled "misspellings") I've had to correct to make this read-able. LOL

'Night all. Namaste and all that jazz. :-)

We haven't heard from Captain Sally in a few. I'm concerned.

C'mon all... it is obvious. Hillary is motivated by a huge power lust and desire for personal gratification. I was disgusted when she endorsed Bernard Kerick. Her ambition exceeds her good sense. We can do much, much, much better than her.
When will we understand that these politicians work for us? And we should stop justifying their ass-kissing, irresponsible behavior.

I think some very interesting things are coming up in October when Jupiter goes into Scorpio and Mars goes retrograde in Taurus. I wonder if the cards will be put on the table, and we will see who dominates this Middle East game.

I think of Hillary as a pragmatist who is trying to win over those on the right who see Republicans as the ones with a premium on family values and keeping the U.S. safe, the two things that probably got *sh re-elected. Even if we don't support all of her views, she may end up helping us Democrats if we can get the moderates to see us in terms of keeping America safe, and not supporting abortion indiscriminately. (which doesn't mean Hillary doesn't also support a woman's right to choose). She probably also learned by Kerry's mistakes ("I voted against the war before I voted for it") and wants to be perceived as staying consistent because people obviously respect that. As long as she picks her battles carefully and does not betray social security and other benchmarks of the Democratic party, she may be doing us a service by bringing moderates and reasonable conservatives back to the fold. As much as I prefer a Kuccinich, I can't see someone like him being elected for a while. I was very pleasantly surprised that Dean got picked for the DNC position but even he has his conservative bent. I haven't made up my mind about her yet, but I think Hillary is pretty smart and shrewd, and obviously Bill has a hand in this strategy.

And just a small footnote regarding Hillary Clinton... all you have to do is look at the Saturn/Pluto in Leo square Sun in Scorpio to get the picture. Not many handle that Saturn/Pluto placement well.

I think she is making a bigger mistake than Kerry by jumping for Republican bones and not standing up for anything.

Arnold Is getting his and a good number of women are involved (not forgetting male nurses) are giving it to him.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3230940

O.K. so here it is:

1/ The U.S. has its own chartered jet service to deliver suspected "terrorists" to countries that "openly" use torture, because it is "less expensive and cumbersome" than putting these people (remember, not charged with any crime!) through the normal U.S. legal system (talk about the benefits of outsourcing!!)

2/ It is 'quite possible' (to give the administration the benefit of the doubt) that the U.S. military was ordered to assassinate the newly freed Italian journalist/hostage because she was ready to report on Romsfeld's war crimes in Fallujah, etc.

3/ The congress wants to change overtime work rules and the personal bankruptcy law to further destabilize and weaken the U.S. working and middle classes. Just yesterday that Commie, pinko, terrorist lover Warren Buffet predicted America will soon become a 'nation of sharecroppers', but ABC "News" censored this part of their interview with him which was not played on the air (don't you just love our free press??!!

4/ A male whore and fake news reporter was coddled by the White House with special access to Bush, but when MoDo started talking about it on Meet the Press last Sunday, Whore (excuse me...)
Herr Russert started giggling nervously and immediately changed the subject

5/ Recently a Republican attack group a la "Swift Boats" started basically talking about AARP members as "appeasers and not supportive of our troops" because they had the temerity to challenge Bush on Social Security privatization!!)

I think this country really cannot take too much more and that one way or another SOMETHING has just got to give sooner rather than later, so once again I hope you all are right on re the predictions of late March through mid April. Thanks for giving me hope.

The left SHOULD NOT BE PANDERING TO THE RIGHT. Big, big tactical error.

If this attempted Social Security swindle continues this way, a lot of damage will be done to the Republican party. The left should stay put. It's the Republicans that will be moving left out of political necessity.

The dumb, impatient Democrats that are trying too hard will be left(ha!) behind.

i note jonathan's comment on hillary clinton's "out-reach to republicans: "Makes it much more difficult to paint her as a fire-breathing Liberal and helps ensure that we won't get some bobble-headed Repug beating her in 2006."

i am reminded of Alice Miller's critique of Jung's pro-Nazi comments on Jews when he headed the swiss psychoanalityc organization in the 1930's. she pointed out that as stupid as jung's anti-semitic comments were, they were all the more pathetic because he was safe from the nazi's in switzerland. in other words, jung wasn't being antii-semitic to save his life, he was really an a**hole on this issue.

i make the same criticism of hillary clinton cozying up to republicans. she doesn't need to do it. her approvals in ny state are exceptional. she's reaching out to them because she's morphing into a lieberman democrat. she digs it, it makes her feel like a national and world leader. her lame excuse of a career as 'second fiddle' to a philanderer can be justified if she gets the big prize. she will arrive (but if so, she will be ariviste!).

maybe hillary could leave bill and joe could leave hadassa -- and they could be together blissfully pandering to every corporate interest in the northeast. it makes me sick.

btw, she only polls well in national trial heats due to name recognition. she is not liked by the activists and won't stand the heat of primaries where NEW LEADERS FOR A NEW DEMOCRATIC PARTY will emerge.

TRUTH TO POWER

I agree, Mike. She's out of the game come primary time. A world leader she's not.

Thanks for another great article Isabelle.

Thought some of you might be interested in this from Caroline Myss. She's been planning a book on "The Sacred Contract of America" for several years now. This is sort of the first installment introduction.
There is text and a video that is quite fascinating. Long, but for those interested in the esoteric side of things, worth it.
http://www.myss.com/GeorgeIntro.asp

At the national convention, Dean was given a long round of applause. During which cameras panned several times upon Hillary. Dean who brought people into the Democratic party, people who had given up on the party, people whom had been unaware of the value of the democratic party. If Hillary cared about the party she would have been standing up applauding him. Instead she showed her true colors by sitting on her rear and sporting a sour look which Condi would have been proud of.

The image is burned into my mind. And if she is selected as a nominee for 2008 My vote will be written in. I'm tired of being sold shoddy candidates bending like willows in the desert. They always break when you need them most.

Jonathan and Sharon I have to agree with Pallas and jm about Hillary. She is a selfish, self- centered egotist who thinks that by trying to be middle of the road she'll pull some red states in the 2008 general election. Obviously she forgets what happened to Bill even when he tried to compromise with the right wing nuts. The only thing in the middle of the political road these days is road kill. I agree that she won't make it out of the 2008 Democratic primaries. The funny thing is she may not be re-elected Senator next year if those same guys who slimed John Kerry aim just right for her next year.

The thing that she hasn't learned is the same thing that a lot of the so-called Third Way Democrats will learn in short order-the right wing wackos know they are in charge so they know there is no need to compromise and they won't so we shouldn't either.

The biggest problem the Democrats have is we have no effective and efficient means of communicating the dire consequences of all of Bush's stupid policies will be and maybe it won't matter until those consequences have manifested themselves will people actually how disasterous they really are.

This morning Rense has published an article connectin the dots in the Gosch/Guckert/Gannon case. A while ago a poster wondered whether or not there was a connection between the Franklin Case and the Gannon Case. I too had wondered the same thing. Although rather lengthy, the article appears to be well researched.

http://www.rense.com/general63/hey.htm

Re: Hillary. We continue to divest our energy with candidates who live in an entirely different world than most of the population. Hillary is no exception. While i admire her, she will continue the strategies developed by the elite to suppress humanity at large. If i had to vote for Hillary vs. say, a Frist then my vote would go to Hillary. Yet, i would be pinching my nose just as i did when voting for Kerry.

It's damned frustrating that entities like Dennis Kucinich are so marginalized by the press. He's magical and WOULD help elevate the discourse. Yet, i'm certain he'll never achieve the level of prominence necessary to enact massive change.

karen

I rememmber Hillary at Tom Harkin's, picnic to introduce the Dem candidates. They were worried that she would suck up the attention at the event. As she introduced each candidate in turn.........she shook their hand; hugged Carol Mosely Braun, BUT took Kerry's hand in hers and raised it high in a victory signal!
At the time his ratings were in the basement, but 6 months later Kerry won the Iowa Caucus!!!!!!
That matches CC's image of Hil at the Dem convention.
My daughter lives below Albany NY, ( in Pataki's county). They're terminally Repug in that area........
When the IRS is targeting single female artists in their 60's, it'sTOO LATE for late non-partisan action!!!!!
So sorry to hear about your troubles Judi Gemini................
And I have to go down to the Town Manager/ today to negotiate; the back property tax is now due..........& the IRS apprpeiated my state property tax rebate, to pay an "incorrect", once billed as "safe" in 'uncollectable" back income tax!
It was a "NON-PARTISAN" legislation ( including T Kennedy!)in 1986, thatchanged the tax code, terminating income averaging, & put me in jeopardy re: IRS!
Have to go call my local ABC station, now and point out the Il Manefesto is NOT a COMMUNIST paper, and even if it were it's not nice to kill reporters!
Pat QOP

Anybody know the Serenity Prayer? I've learned it, and I use it constantly.

I rememmber Hillary at Tom Harkin's, picnic to introduce the Dem candidates. They were worried that she would suck up the attention at the event. As she introduced each candidate in turn.........she shook their hand; hugged Carol Mosely Braun, BUT took Kerry's hand in hers and raised it high in a victory signal!
At the time his ratings were in the basement, but 6 months later Kerry won the Iowa Caucus!!!!!!
That matches CC's image of Hil at the Dem convention.
My daughter lives below Albany NY, ( in Pataki's county). They're terminally Repug in that area........
When the IRS is targeting single female artists in their 60's, it'sTOO LATE for late non-partisan action!!!!!
So sorry to hear about your troubles Judi Gemini................
And I have to go down to the Town Manager/ today to negotiate; the back property tax is now due..........& the IRS apprpeiated my state property tax rebate, to pay an "incorrect", once billed as "safe" in 'uncollectable" back income tax!
It was a "NON-PARTISAN" legislation ( including T Kennedy!)in 1986, thatchanged the tax code, terminating income averaging, & put me in jeopardy re: IRS!
Have to go call my local ABC station, now and point out the Il Manefesto is NOT a COMMUNIST paper, and even if it were it's not nice to kill reporters!
Pat QOP

OOps,
appropriated my state ......sorry.
PQOP

Last week I commented that "something" was going on, going to happen in the midsection of our country. The energies seemed to me to be coalescing & pointing in that direction. For anyone interested, I found this today:
March 5, 2005

The Last Ritual Has Been Preformed, ‘Around the World Flight’ Signals All Out Global War, Great Strife in America

By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Russian Subscribers
link: http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index691.htm

For Sharon & judi, who were asking about Skull & Bones/ Freemasons, Illuminati stuff, here is a site loaded with info.: http://web.archive.org/web/20010301223845/www.illuminati-news.com/

Missy Hillary is of DLC... the rt-wring branch of the Dem party. DLC just suffered a coup d'etat from the H Dean branch. She rather reminds me of Sen McCain et al... get trashed n' porned unmercifully by the necroporns only to go crawlin' back for more. Hard to respect somethin' like that... so I won't.

Too bad... she could've been useful at one time. ;O)

dKos had a thread recently about 'compromising with the Repugs'... it doesn't pay in this era. Dems got snuckered big time after 9/11... that 3rd rail is gone! Hopefully...

In the 50s and 60s it was possible to have both parties come to a concensus... LBJ was very skilled at compromise... among other things.

But I stand with Pallas on this issue... this regime is trying to 'destroy' Democrats and liberals... all dissent. They are fascists and fascists do not tolerate a 2nd party, another point of view. Hillary is not the ONLY Dem guilty of 'reaching out to the Repugs' (I'm not sure that term is correct in this instance.) If you allow yourself to get defensive about Hillary (if you like her) than you are missing Pallas' point. Democrats should be standing by the principles of our party. Roe v. Wade established rights... We do not have to concede anything there. If we are going to abandon Roe v. Wade, you can hang up the Democratic Party... women will leave in droves!

imho our political system is broken. Most Americans do not have any knowledge about politics. One can see that affirmed with all the emphasis on 'Il Manifesto' being a COMMUNIST newspaper. Labels mean different things in different places. Aside from that, those shouting 'commie' do not even know what 'commie' means... their reference is to Totalitarian governments. They need to stop and take a look at ours! It would not matter if Sgrena was a Green Martian, she should not have been shot. And 'xtians' ought to examine more closely the philosophy of Jesus of Nazareth. As portrayed, one can only conclude he would advocate 'communal' living, sharing... even communisn. The very essence of the Catholic religion is community. If you don't follow the rules, you are ex-communicated. [which is what Rove and his thugs attempted to do to Kerry in the last election - forbide him the sacrament of communion].

Our forefathers (hate that word... everything is 'father'!!!) believed the Constitution should be looked at frequently and updated... at least one-half of them did not want a Republic, with a centralized government. One or two even questioned if a Republic would work, once it had grown very large.

Those who hold the power now intend to strip our government down, so that the People have nothing. Santorum is attempting to destroy the 40-hour week and overtime presently. * has established a 'War Room' to dismantle Social Security. The public schools are dying from lack of funds and the switch to charter and 'xtian' schools. There will be no Middle Class when these fascists are through.

Meanwhile the blogs are alive with the sound of 'who can we run in 2006 and who will win in 2008' --- as if there will be any more 'elections'... [I've got some swamp land... you want to buy?]

If the Democratic Party wants to be viable, to survive, it has to CHANGE. Just read some of the comments upthread. Folks are not willing to work for, to support, to vote for... some 'establishment' candidate. We need a real democracy --- where every vote counts. We need real elections. We don't need 'representatives' who are owned by the Corpo-fascists. Do we even need 'representatives'? anarchy looks better and better to me, every day. The hierarchy no longer resembles a pyramid. It looks like a flat base of serfs/slaves (us--- you and me) with a few floating above, sucking off our energy and life. The arts constantly reflect the psyche of the people. We are living in the "Matrix"... [they got the color of the pills wrong though... the Blue should be for truth, the Red for denial, right?]

Here's a link you might want to take a look at... I did... I'm reading --- there's more than 600 pages in parts A-J... not trying to persuade anyone to anything, just passing along a link.

http://www.infoshop.org/faq/index.html

Last thing... several Kossacks are beginning to use the 'f' word (the other one, silly! 'fascist') and many are just discovering Milton Mayer's writings...

http://www.thirdreich.net/Thought_They_Were_Free.html
and they are just discovering the inaction of the German people during the years of the rise and dominance of fascism. They are seeing parallels to our inaction here in this country. That's my greatest concern... our 'inaction' --- we are like the frog in the pot of water, who doesn't realize the heat is on... but gradually becomes acclimated... and then of course, soon it's too late for the frog to jump out of the pot.

Busheviks at war--with each other!!

http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a1426.htm

The Voice of the White House

March 2, 2005: ã I must confess that I havenât had so much entertainment in all my career working for the Republicans, both in and out of the White House and for various papers. This ãGannonä story has one half of the staff, the senior members, in a state of gibbering terror lest they be ãouted:,ä and the rest in a state of growing outrage.

We have a lot of Nice Christian People here working in the offices and they previously have had a great devotion to Bush but now, with the revelations about ãGannon the Male Whoreä growing, many of them are becoming very disillusioned. I know for a fact that wealthy contributors are calling here daily, screaming about ãGannonä and the Christian Right is knotting itself in agony over this. They, who loathe and despise all gays, are absolutely refusing to confront the obvious facts that a rampant and self-advertising gay whore and procurer was the poster boy of the Republican Right for at least three years.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/030705Z.shtml

The Prophecy of Oil

On August 27, 1859, Edwin Drake's oil well in Titusville, Pennsylvania struck a gusher, making him the man credited with drilling the first commercially successful oil well in America. In the time between then and now, the world has burned through about 900 billion barrels of Drake's discovery.

    Global daily oil consumption today stands at around 82 million barrels, and many experts believe the emerging mega-industrialization of nations like China and India will cause that daily consumption to reach at least 120 million barrels a day by the year 2030. Not to fear, however; ExxonMobil believes there are some 14 trillion barrels still in the ground, including nonconventional resource fields like the tar sands of Canada and petroleum-rich shale in the western United States.

    In the last several years, a theory known as 'Peak Oil' has been working its way into the mainstream. Chief proponent of this theory is Dr. Colin Campbell, a retired oil-industry geologist now living in Ireland. Dr. Campbell, who has been raising warnings about Peak Oil for some 15 years, believes that global consumption of oil is surpassing not only the amount of oil being pulled from the ground, not only the amount of oil left to be found, but is also surpassing the ability of technology to compensate for what he sees as an inevitable and looming shortfall.

    The 'peak,' believes Campbell, will come as early as next year, heralding a steady rise in prices and the end of cheap oil as we have known it, causing a seismic shock within the global economy. "The perception of this decline changes the entire world we know," said Dr. Campbell in a September 2004 report from the Wall Street Journal. "Up till now we've been living in a world with the assumption of growth driven by oil. Now we have to face the other side of the mountain."

More....

A telegram from Pope John Paul II has added to pressure on Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi to bow to the will of the people on the country's involvement in Iraq, following the death of special services agent Nicola Calipari, a brother of Pontifical Academy for Life bioethicist Fr Maurizio Calipari.

http://www.cathnews.com/news/503/33.php

http://tinyurl.com/4q832

Abbas speaks out.... oops... TeamBush will not be happy.....

When asked about reported promises made by Bush to Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon (news - web sites) that Palestinians would have no right of return to land lost in 1948, changes to the 1967 Middle East frontiers and on Jerusalem, Abbas said nothing could be decided without Palestinian agreement.

"President Bush doesn't have the right to prejudice final-status issues," he said.

"These issues should be discussed in the final stages, not now. He can't make commitments on behalf of the Palestinian people. It is our right to say yes or no."

More...

http://tinyurl.com/6pmyl

Many Missteps Tied to Delay in Armor for Troops in Iraq

T?he war in Iraq was hardly a month old in April 2003 when an Army general in charge of equipping soldiers with protective gear threw the brakes on buying bulletproof vests.

The general, Richard A. Cody, who led a Pentagon group called the Army Strategic Planning Board, had been told by supply chiefs that the combat troops already had all the armor they needed, according to Army officials and records from the board's meetings. Some 50,000 other American soldiers, who were not on the front lines of battle, could do without.

In the following weeks, as Iraqi snipers and suicide bombers stepped up deadly attacks, often directed at those very soldiers behind the front lines, General Cody realized the Army's mistake and did an about-face. On May 15, 2003, he ordered the budget office to buy all the bulletproof vests it could, according to an Army report. He would give one to every soldier, "regardless of duty position."

But the delays were only beginning. The initial misstep, as well as other previously undisclosed problems, show that the Pentagon's difficulties in shielding troops and their vehicles with armor have been far more extensive and intractable than officials have acknowledged, according to government officials, contractors and Defense Department records.

More....

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2005/03/07/bush_backs_policy_on_terror_suspects/

Bush backs policy on terror suspects

By Reuters  |  March 7, 2005

NEW YORK -- The Bush administration is defending its decision to give the CIA extensive authority to send terrorism suspects to foreign countries for interrogation.

The New York Times reported yesterday that President Bush signed a still-classified directive just days after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks that gave the CIA broad power to operate without case-by-case approval from the White House in the transfer of suspects -- a process known as rendition.

The CIA declined to comment on the report, and the White House would not confirm the directive.

But White House counselor Dan Bartlett defended the administration's policies, saying it was important after the Sept. 11 attacks to take a ''hard look at our entire apparatus -- militarily, intelligence, diplomatic -- to see how we were going to fight and win the war on terror."

The rendition program has been under scrutiny in recent weeks after several former detainees complained of inhumane treatment and human rights groups have complained that the operations violated American standards condemning torture.

Representative Edward Markey filed legislation last month to eliminate what he called ''outsourcing torture."

''The president needs to rescind his extraordinary rendition 'outsourcing torture' directives so that Americans can know that we are neither engaging in torture ourselves, nor outsourcing torture to other nations," the Massachusetts Democrat said yesterday.

Markey also called on the president to declassify the secret order.

The Bush administration has publicly said the United States did not hand over people to be tortured. ''At every step of the way, President Bush and his administration has made very clear that we abide by the laws of our land and the treaty obligations we have," Bartlett told CNN.

Pat QOP - yup, it was the 1986 tax code changes that crashed my world also....and I lost my house in the end. Making the changes retroactive destroyed the people like you and me who had invested our savings .... and started the S&L crisis ..... such short sighted intentions.

Peg....again, my family has been Masonic for centuries that I know of (doing geneology)...it was always the height of civic responsibility to be a Mason....my dad was also....just because it is a secret society with secret rituals (not unlike the Catholic church) doesn't make it sinister. Which is what you seem to be saying. And the web site....who knows what people put on line? Can any of this be trusted?

judi, I can't comment on your family situation, who the hell am I to tell you anything about your/ their lives?? All I know is that the Freemasons are part of the Illuminati structure and that MANY of the Masons are good, wonderful people doing good, wonderful works. Some of them have NO idea what the organization is truly all about- I have an uncle in the same circumstance. However, I have read that there is no way a person above the 32nd degree cannot know what they are involved in, the purpose and intention, the rites. I have much more information that I'm not going to list here other than the site I gave you. Please think & feel about it however you wish.

Just on CNN, John Bolton is ***h's choice for US ambassador to UN

I sent the posting of Will Pitt's "one sentence description of the B** administration' to my friend Ann Calhoun (I send her a lot of these postings)....now I will post the column she wrote in her local paper....please feel free to email her, too....

Calhoun’s Can(n)on

©Ann Calhoun all rights reserved

Bay News, Los Osos California

March 2, 2005   

The Bigger  Question

Is it possible to design, discuss, invent, reassemble, modify, create and implement an incredibly complex system that will have a direct impact on many lives when the parties that come to the table are all busy spinning, lying, conflating, ginning-up, hedging, and hiding real agendas?

No, I wasn’t speaking of the Hideous Sewer Wars, but point taken. This last “Save the Dream” flyer to land in my mail box spun so much I got rope burns just holding the thing., If this group wants us to “Trust The Truth,” their flyers need to be about the size of telephone directories and contain about a bazillion cautionary, eye-squinting footnotes.

No, what I was referring to in this case was the Social Security Wars. You remember those? The “emergency,” the scary “crisis,” the ginned-up numbers, the deliberately false conflation of “Individual Accounts” with “saving” Social Security.  And in drawing the battle lines, everyone conveniently forgot the larger, even more looming crisis: Medicare. That was probably forgotten because nobody wanted to ask the “accountability” President just why the real price tag on the recent Big Pharma giveaway just magically happened to appear after it had been safely passed and signed into law. 

So, how do you even start a national dialogue when all around you is spin and lies, hidden numbers, cooked books, and slights-of-hand trickery? Even more important, are we, as a nation, able to see past the surface details to take a look at and discuss honestly The Bigger Question: Do we, as a country, still value the idea of The Commons?

This country has always told itself smiley-faced myths about its barn-raising generosity, its teamwork, the old sense of there actually being an “us” in U.S. But that’s mostly myth. The reality is that our country has always operated on a basis of ferocious Capitalistic, Free-Market Darwinism. But that system has its dark side. While the rich, the lucky, the powerful, the able and the strong thrive, the weak, the sick, and the marginalized unlucky die.

Such a system isn’t good for a nation’s long term stability because there are always more unlucky poor people who begin to ask that very dangerous revolutionary question: Where’s my piece of the pie? And so, at the turn of the century, began the progressive idea of the Commons – things We The People should hold in common for the benefit of us all. In short, pieces of the American Pie that We The People secure for ourselves. 

The Commons can include such things as clean air and water, safe food, parks and open lands, universal education and health care, a safety net from destitution in old age, the shifting of some risk from each individual to the collective might of all of us. The list is only as long as we wish to make it. After all, it’s our American Pie, so we can decide whether we should all share or whether, by default, the pie should go to the rich and powerful while We the People settle for crumbs. 

But before choosing, we have to decide whether The Commons still hold any value for us. And if so, just what those Commons should look like.

For over 30 years, The New Deal and Great Society notion of The Commons has been under relentless attack by Conservatives. On the far right, we are presented with the phony vision of a totally privatized society. I say phony because Bush is laughably trying to sell an “ownership society” to one of the biggest debtor nations on earth. And on the far left, we have the Nanny State, too often featherbedded with unworkable “public” boondoggles. Gone missing are the pragmatists, the centrists who will put public interest ahead of party politics, put the common good before corporate welfare, and deal only with real numbers and consequences -- Folks who know the difference between a real baby and the ideological bathwater he’s sitting in.

And while the dialog remains polarized or Americans keep allowing themselves to be distracted and derailed by deliberate lies and phony conflations, the wealth of The Commons – our American Pie – will continue to be given out to the Corporate Oligarchy. And why not? Wealth goes into the pockets of those standing nearest the Money Truck when the shovels start flying.

And those who stand back and do nothing get exactly that. Plus the bill.

churadogs@aol.com
Ann Calhoun
Los Osos, CA

Peg....I object to the hysterical tone of the Russian article and its absurd interpretations, and from the Freemasonry and Illuminati article, it says:
"Let us be quick to say that Freemasonry in England, America and elsewhere

was historically, and today is, quited another kind and its members

characterized by high standards of morality and spirituality."

It appears that the author is condemning the French Revolution as a fomentation by the freemasons and one German professor in particular (not to mention the old 'godless, anti religion, anti god and aethiest' fears).... however, all of this sounds more like the GOP over the last 30 years than anything else! Talk about diabolical need to take over the world!!!!

Negroponte's Dark Past....

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/printer_030705Y.shtml

The Neocons put John Bolton in the State Dept.
to keep an eye on Powell so he wouldn't get too
far out of line.
In early March 2003 Bush sent him to Israel,
where he promised Sharon that America would get
both Syria and Iran.
Putting him in the UN will be a further blow
to America's reputation (sic) around the world.

judi just to respond, I don't really want to get into all the Illuminati stuff on here. I think it's fine for you to believe whatever you want to. I originally gave the information about Hilary's involvement, so I thought it only fair that I back it up with a link. As I stated, I have more: http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/illuminati.htm
http://www.global-elite.org/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=index&sid=3d80ccd9807f95e5a76482d15e23fb88
http://web.archive.org/web/20030825093657/www.thewatcherfiles.com/bloodlines/index.htm
that's enough I think.

Posted on Salon:

Filling Bush's Bubble

Froomkin http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/politics/administration/whbriefing/

I've been writing a lot lately about how the audiences at Bush's "conversations" about Social Security are screened of dissenters.

But Holly Bailey, Richard Wolffe and Tamara Lipper write in Newsweek http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7102438/site/newsweek/ that the audiences are actually full of ringers.

"The White House likes to call them 'regular folks' -- people with real-life questions about the president's agenda. Only some are more regular than others. Carlos Huertas was billed as a concerned grandfather and hard-working engineer when he sat onstage next to President Bush to talk about retirement accounts in downtown Tampa, Fla., last month."

But, Newsweek reports: "The Florida granddad is an activist for FreedomWorks, a conservative group founded by former vice presidential nominee Jack Kemp and Dick Armey, the former House GOP leader. . . .

"FreedomWorks officials tell Newsweek they have worked closely with the administration to coordinate the town halls, often suggesting names of the people onstage. At least five of its activists have appeared with Bush, and the group has bused hundreds to eight of his events in recent weeks. By the group's own tally, at least one third of the audience in Tampa were FreedomWorks members. . . .

"White House press secretary Scott McClellan says it shouldn't be surprising that the administration would work with a group like FreedomWorks, since the goal is to sell the president's plan. 'If they are involved in the issue and understand what's at stake, that's what we're looking for,' he says. 'We're looking for real-life examples.' "

Here's the FreedomWorks Web site, http://www.cse.org/ where the group's leader, Matt Kibbe, enthuses about their accomplishments: "Donning pro-reform stickers and t-shirts, activists from North Carolina boarded a charter bus to travel to Washington, forming part of an 80 person FreedomWorks contingent at the event. Even better, two FreedomWorks members discussed Social Security reform on stage with President Bush! . . .

"FreedomWorks' presence was not limited to Washington, D.C. As the President tours the nation, FreedomWorks is there! . . . At every turn in the President's schedule, FreedomWorks members were there to enthusiastically cheer President Bush and his plan to save Social Security."

Judi, Peg, and all. The original motivation of any organization and the evolution of that organization are probably without exception, two different things. I have both reading and personal exposure to the masons. The pool has been polluted. That seems to be the way with mankind.

Peg....Hillary's been accused of so many things, including killing Vince Foster....as a matter of fact, Catherine Austin Fitts (Solari.com) says she was brainwashed as a child by the Illuminati....I figure we are all brainwashed by SOMETHING or other....but until Hillary says she is a member of the Illuminati I won't believe any of it...

Pat C.....I couldn't agree more....the pool probably gets polluted when the time for the pool to be drained comes!

I became such a fan of the XFiles that now all conspiracy theories look look absurd. The GOP's pool, by the way, needs instant draining!

I think it's coming Judi. I think it's coming for many religions as well. When the pool is polluted, the swimmers leave and the pool is no longer useful.

http://democrats.com/node/3696

On Tuesday, the Senate will vote on a Republican bill that would deny
traditional bankruptcy protection to America's Middle Class, and force
those who get sick or lose a job into permanent debt slavery to credit
card companies.

The bill is a Republican payback to MBNA, America's largest credit card
company - and the single largest contributor to the Republican Party.

Even though credit card companies are making record profits through
outrageous late fees and interest rate hikes, there is simply no limit to
their greed. Here's what the Los Angeles Times wrote about this bill:

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/la-na-
bankruptcy4mar04,1,4148734.story

"The changes proposed in the Senate bill would fundamentally alter long-
standing American legal policy on debt. Under bankruptcy laws as they have
existed for more than a century, creditors can seize almost all of a
bankrupt debtor's assets, but they cannot lay claim to future earnings.

"The proposed law, by preventing many debtors from seeking bankruptcy
protection, would compel financially insolvent borrowers to continue
trying to pay off the old debts almost indefinitely.

""Until now, the principle in this country has been that people's future
human capital is their own," said David A. Moss, an economic historian at
Harvard University. "If a person gets on a financial treadmill, they can
declare bankruptcy and have what can't be paid discharged. But that would
change with this bill."

If you think debt slavery is un-American, then send an urgent message to
your Senators to FILIBUSTER the Bankruptcy Bill. We must get 41 Senators
to FILIBUSTER or the bill will become law, and every American will be one
job loss or serious illness away from permanent debt slavery.

Please use our easy-to-use form to write your Senators now!

http://democrats.com/node/3696

Bob Fertik

American Free Press

http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/bilderberg_plans_spring.html

Here is a dynmaite site where you'll get the real truth about swhat happened to Ms.Sgerna from her own writing for ILMANIFESTO OF Italy.

http://www.ilmanifest.it/pag/sgerna/en/

Correction on the website above, must be

http://www.ilmanifesto.it/pag/sgerna/en/

Porter Goss in over his head.....

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/printer_030605Y.shtml

The new guy the rez is sending to the UN Bolton, Hawkish...attended Yale. Another Skull n' Bonz boy ? Anyone know ?

In short. We the public are mostly on our own to
solve any problems. The fascist in charge don't give a fig for working masses and their troubles. So they cut out all the programs and give the money to other rich relatives. Damn the consequences to
themselves as well as the rest of the population.
Well they had better wake up and smell the Uranus in Pisces before it sends a Pandemic to kill them. Just like what happened in 1918-1919 when it went
through last time. Fortunately, professionals
are working together with other people on this. It
is still frightening.

Was it Nancy that spotted a possibility of an epidemic in the future?
“Experts agree that another influenza pandemic is inevitable and possibly imminent.”
http://www.who.int/csr/don/2004_01_15/en/">http://www.who.int/csr/don/2004_01_15/en/">http://www.who.int/csr/don/2004_01_15/en/
http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/cidrap/content/influenza/avianflu/biofacts/avflu_human.html">http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/cidrap/content/influenza/avianflu/biofacts/avflu_human.html">http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/cidrap/content/influenza/avianflu/biofacts/avflu_human.html

http://www.who.int/csr/don/2005_03_07/en/
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/avian/professional/han020405.htm
These articles site death rates as high as 90%. The number of infected people is growing in Asia.
It comes out of the crowded area where SARS came from.

Morgana,

Can't say for sure.

This website lists him as a member...

Tout d’abord, il s’est entouré d’éminents "patriarches" : le sous-secrétaire d’état John Bolton, l’actuel "vice-roi" d’Irak Paul Bremer, l’ex-directeur de la CIA James Wollsey -fervent néoconservateur-, ou le secrétaire de la commission du marché des valeurs Bill Donaldson, sont des "bonesmen". Pour Robbins, cela montre que le président ne fait rien d’autre qu’appliquer le programme que Skull and Bones prévoit pour ses membres, à savoir s’entraider pour conquérir le pouvoir et s’y maintenir. Dans l’Histoire, il y a eu d’autres "bonesmen" à des postes privilégiés. Le propre père de George W. a été bonesman ainsi que le 27ème président, William Howard Taft.

http://www.legrandsoir.info/article.php3?id_article=1549

First of all, it was surrounded of eminent "patriarchs": the under-secretary of state John Bolton, current "the viceroy" of Iraq Paul Bremer, the ex-director of the CIA James Wollsey - enthusiast neoconservator -, or the secretary of the commission of the market of the values Bill Donaldson, are "bonesmen". For Robbins, that shows that the president does not do anything other but to apply the program that Skull and Bones envisages for its members, namely to help to conquer the capacity and to be maintained there. In the History, there were others "bonesmen" at privileged stations. The proper father of George W was bonesman as well as the 27th president, William Howard Taft. They are found

above translated at Babel

Maybe Jonathan or someone can give better translation.

Bolton's name does not appear on the comprehensive list given by

http://www.wealth4freedom.com/truth/3/skullroster.htm

but I don't know how accurate the list there is...

jm, thanks for this: "October when Jupiter goes into Scorpio and Mars goes retrograde in Taurus"

my north node is in taurus and south in scorpio. n.mars in libra (oops) and n.jupiter in sag (yeah). maybe i'll learn all sorts of wild&crazy things about myself and get angry in an organized, efficient, down to earth way.

interesting...

Jo.

Except for a few stylistic errors here and there and the inherent clumsiness of the translation (because it's done by a computer and not a person), that translation via BableFish pretty much sums the article up. One has to admit that when the Net can help you understand something that's not in your native tongue, it must be -- despite all it's faults and our complaints -- a pretty wonderful thing at the end of the day. :-)

Mike, I just opened up this page, read your comment, and I am absolutely amazed!

"my north node is in taurus and south in scorpio. n.mars in libra (oops) and n.jupiter in sag (yeah). maybe i'll learn all sorts of wild&crazy things about myself and get angry in an organized, efficient, down to earth way."

I have every single one of those placements, too. I think we have a lot to talk about. I am already angry in an organized(no), efficient(maybe), down to earth(yes) way.
So we must have been born almost together.

I am a great believer in the nodes as the answer to the riddle of our lives.I am most interested in your experiences. I have been doing research on this subject, and it never ceases to intrigue me.

Pat C, I can attest to MBNA. When I had a card and was 2 days late (postmarked before the date), they billed me almost fifty dollars. I called them up and told them I wasn't going to pay it. They dropped the charge.

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Date: Monday, March 07, 2005 5:57 PM

Dubai Study Endorses GATA's Findings on Gold Market Rigging, Warns Oil Producers

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March 03, 2005 11:47 AM US Eastern Timezone

Dubai Study Endorses GATA's Findings on Gold Market Rigging, Warns Oil Producers

DALLAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--March 3, 2005--A study published by a research foundation in Dubai has endorsed the Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee's findings that Western central and commercial banks have rigged the gold market but have much less gold than they claim to have and so are vulnerable to rising demand for gold. The study recommends that the oil-producing countries of the Middle East diversify their ever-depreciating U.S. dollar holdings into gold.

The study, "The Role of Gold in the Unified Gulf Cooperation Council Currency," was written by Eckart Woertz, vice president of CFC Securities in Dubai, for the Gulf Research Center. It quotes the work of GATA's consultants, including Frank Veneroso, and predicts that the gold price suppression scheme of the Western banks will fail just as their similar scheme of the 1960s, the so-called London Gold Pool, failed when the drain on Western gold reserves became too great. Once the scheme fails, the study says, "it will be highly difficult and expensive to accumulate a gold reserve. This is especially true for central banks that have low gold reserves like those in the Gulf Cooperation Council countries."

The study concludes: "The paper dollar standard is a dead man walking. Its debt, accumulated over the recent decades, is too high to be effectively repaid. It will either default or be inflated to such an extent that it will not 'hurt' to pay it back. Therefore, the accrued imbalances in global finance and the inherent weakness of worldwide growth models that rely on a continuance of U.S. deficit spending are likely to usher in a serious crisis of currency systems in coming years.

"Gold will be a suitable means of asset protection and ultimate payment in such a scenario. It will preserve the wealth of individuals and central banks alike and will ensure important maneuverability for the latter."

GATA believes that the study is likely to have a profound influence on governments, banks, and investors in the Middle East and may accomplish there what the similar report by Sprott Asset Management of Toronto -- "Not Free, Not Fair: The Long-Term Manipulation of the Gold Price" -- is accomplishing in the West.

The Middle East's oil-producing countries are especially obliged to heed the Gulf Research Center's study because their economies are based on a wasting asset, oil, whose depletion will leave them with little more than sand if the payment they receive is substantially depreciated or defaulted upon. In exchanging a real asset for paper assets that represent only unpayable debts, oil-producing countries are at imminent risk of massive expropriation.

The study has been posted at the GATA Internet site here: http://www.gata.org/The%20Role%20of%20Gold%20Digital.pdf

GATA urges its supporters to publicize the study around the Internet and in communications with mining companies, investment houses, and news organizations.

Contacts


Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee, Dallas
Bill Murphy, 214-522-3411



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Go to the article about Big Brother. OMG!

http://forum.truthout.org/blog/story/2005/3/7/85616/92900

Jonathan,
Thanks... I love Babel, and the fact that on the net one can get instant translation! That way I can read foreign newspapers' POV on events, like the Italian Secret Service Chief, Nicola Calapari and the Italian reporter Guiliana Sgrena... cyberspace is great, imo! especially this little corner of it...

Hello, back again for awhile after wrestling with those alligators.

Jonathan, "up to your neck in alligators" is a Florida Cracker expression--i.e., busy, difficult, dangerous, and unpleasant. Also, you can't negotiate. The mental picture says it all. :-)

Sharon, let us know what you find out. My Sun is 2 degree Aquarius in the 9th. Natal Uranus is 2 degree Taurus in the 12th. Asc is 23 degree Taurus. Leo and Scorpio unoccupied.

bhakti, I had never heard that description of Chiron--the "inconvenient benefic." Very very interesting. Sounds like a quincux with Jupiter or Venus, doesn't it?

Travieso, I agree, Benny Hinn is lower than pond scum. I saw a supposed "expose" of him on tv some years ago. The interviewer was completely stymied by Hinn's sort of judo style defense, i.e., "you say our account books aren't accurate? Oh, thank you for letting me know that--we will see that is corrected" and other mildly delivered BS.

PS, the true original expression is "up to your ass in alligators" but we little ladies were taught not to say that.

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If it's true that the Democratic Party is about to get religion, then Hillary Clinton is first at the altar. Much has been made of Clinton's newly softened image—the way she tore down her old liberal icon and got spiritual over abortion, for instance. She told an Albany crowd on January 24 that abortion represents "a sad, even tragic choice to many, many women," and singled out "religious and moral values" as an antidote to teenage sex. Never mind the New York junior senator's continued advice that pro-choice activists find "common ground" with their anti-abortion counterparts. Pundits chalked up the putative presidential candidate's remarks to a post-election Democratic shift to the center. After all, the only way to win national office anymore is to move to the middle, and these days that means getting serious about God and guns.
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hey, jm, do you have n.uranus & n.venus conjunct in the 12th, now that's a strange placement. the node thing is interesting -- a fellow named shulman, i think, wrote a book that's really great. if you have a source on taurus N.Node, post the link. the interpretations i see are all off base, even jan spiller's whose work i generally like a great deal...way off on me and i have a great birth time on my cabbage patch certificate.

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Good stuff Peg.

Best node book I ever read...and I've read Schullman and others...is by Helen Adams Garrett. Written with a good bit of humor. It's title: Nodes: Life's Purpose. Copyright, 1995. Publisher: American Federation of Astrologers, Inc., 6535 S. Rural Rd., Tempe AZ 85283
She combines both the houses and the signs. For example, North Node in First, South Node in Seventh reads very differently if your First house is Taurus, and your Seventh House is Scorpio. And she deals with the differences. Very cool.

Funny Gannon/McClellan cartoon here...

http://www.thehollywoodliberal.com/

Thanks WV.

my point exactly.

"she tore down her old liberal icon and got spiritual over abortion, ...

She told an Albany crowd on January 24 that abortion represents "a sad, even tragic choice to many, many women," ...

(she) singled out "religious and moral values" as an antidote to teenage sex....

(her) advice that pro-choice activists find "common ground" with their anti-abortion counterparts. ( what a joke. did you ever try to reason with one of those loonies - the so called
xians?)

" a post-election Democratic shift to the center."

If the democratic party moves any further right, we'll be coming up the ass_ ____s' tonsils.

Suspicious that Bill is on a round the world trip with the evil pappy - at the same time.

Not symbolic...a message to make nice with the thugs, IMHO....both Clintons working in tandem.

"If you can't beat em, join em"

and f--k the regualr american citizen.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/07/politics/07cnd-bolton.html?ex=1110862800&en=81f71f7b6bfe1c94&ei=5065&partner=MYWAY

Bolton to UN

I forget whether it was Bolton or Boucher, but I remember it was one of them, who it was reported at a meeting in Germany prior to 9/11 provoked/dared bin laden representatives to attack the United States - making it clear that the US was going to "get" bin laden for the
attempt on pappy. the source who gave the information to the reporter said it was as if it was a race to see who would attack first: bin laden or -ush.

And this is who they put in the UN? to bully the UN to agree to more illegal wars?

good night AW

Mike, my brother...

My Venus/Uranus conjunction landed in the 3rd house. That's one of my most intriguing placements. In the 12th? I can just imagine. There's a big story to every part of the chart. Pluto is making a three month station there now.
Definitely riveting.

I love the Schulman book on the nodes. I remember always that he said the S.node Scorpion was addicted to crisis, and to really get to the Taurus North, you would leave that constant churning turmoil behind for peaceful fields. Sounds great! I'm working on it.

I like the Jan Spiller book, but, of course, it could be condensed.
The best discussions I've heard are by Michael Lutin, who gives talks on the subject, and Buzz Myers, who died a while ago. They might have tapes. You can really put two and two together by studying your own experience. The repetition of the theme is unmistakable. I've gotten to the point where every decision I make keeps that North Node in mind. I can really sense it's goodness for me.

The theme of "what's yours is yours, and what's mine is mine" concerning the Taurus/Scorpio nodes is what came to mind in this Middle Eastern affair. Since the war started with those nodes transiting, and centered around natural resources and theft, I though maybe the upcoming Taurus/Scorpio stuff might be significant. I thought maybe Mars retro would strip some gears.

Pallas, the Clintons have been singing the praises of both George Bushes lately, and she recently said that the "war" in Iraq was going great, and that the election was a resounding success....talk about kissing a thug's a$$.

"How do I block thee? Let me count the ways!"
It's not yet 7:00am, & I'm ready to crawl back in bed for the day. Having read all my e-mail messages from Act now Move on, etc.. There are so many actions to take to stop the trashing of our country...............
social security, the bankruptcy act, the nuclear solution to usher in awful judges who can enforce all these Draconian laws.
Letitia Baldwin is lamenting the passing of the great Dept stores for the Gentry. I've been lamenting the passing of Jamesway, Bradlees, Woolworth's for some years now!
( the neuveau riche, shop with their bums, don't need elegance or beauty....)( My capital to sell!)

there's a NEW REALITY TV SHOW, which puts crafters in a cage, in a fearsome compitition with each other; if they cut their fingers & bleed or burn themselves with the hot glue gun, THAT"S GOOD!
Then there's the "reality based" Paul Krugman's article The Debt Peonage Society.
Once upon a time I would have put in 45 minutes of painting by this time.........................then one day I looked forward astrologically..........& saw difficulty at the end of my life.........but then chose to interpret it in a positive manner, so not to predispose the situation.
Sorry to be so gloomy................just overwhjelmed today, any antidotes??
PAt QOP

Bush's America is Waging a Global Battle Against
Women's Rights....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,5142767-103677,00.html

Blair gets his head handed to him on Brits
"Patriot Act" - loses by 130 votes....

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/story.jsp?story=617879

You would think he'd have learned after the
Keating 5 scandal....but he is stall a corrupt
SOB....

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050308/D88MFUN00.html

Your tax dollars at work....building settlements on the West Bank....

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/objects/pages/PrintArticleEn.jhtml?itemNo=549486

If we cut all aid to Israel, this would stop in a
hurry!

A refreshing voice of reason - but no action.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/objects/pages/PrintArticleEn.jhtml?itemNo=549132

if there is ever to be PEACE - this has got to
STOP!

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/objects/pages/PrintArticleEn.jhtml?itemNo=548261

Pat QOP, you are loved. If you ask for help, or better yet, say what you want, to those who guide you, you will get it. Say it and mean it! You will be provided! Say it!

http://www.thenation.com/edcut/index.mhtml?pid=1893

A Woman of Firsts

When Waangari Maathai got news that she had received the Nobel Peace Prize, she removed her jewelry, knelt down in the dirt and planted seeds of a Kenyan tree known as the Nandi Flame on the grounds of the Outspan Hotel in Nyeri, in the foothills of Mount Kenya. "It cannot get any better than this," she said. "Maybe in heaven."

Maathai is a woman of firsts: the first woman in eastern and central Africa to earn a doctorate, the first female professor at the University of Nairobi and, now, the first African woman to win the Peace Prize.

Known as Kenya's "Green Militant," she founded the " Green Belt" movement--a grassroots women's group which since the late 1970s has planted more than thirty million trees in Kenya and a dozen other African countries, halting the deforestation that has stripped much of the continent bare. And as important, as a New York Times profile noted, the movement "has also nurtured as many women as it has acacias or cedars,"--providing jobs, economic opportunity and independence to nearly 10,000 women who plant and sell seedlings for a living.

"Many wars we witness around the world are over natural resources," Maathai said the other day. "Without a properly managed enviroment, all of our lives are threatened.... In sustainable development, we plant the seeds of peace."

More...

It can get better for Waangari Maathai, unless she says it can't.

Thanks Pat C,
Just needed a buck-up!! Will go call the Maine Senators re: the bankruptsy ( sp?) bill even tho MBNA ( sponsoring it)is one of Maine's flagship employers thanks to former Gov. King!
Then I will go work on one of my social protest paintings for purge, then a BEAUTiFUL SHIP PAINTING to hopefully sell to the MBNA execs! ( If you can't beat em charge em double!)
I did a painting of myp beloved & special Siamese cat Dulsie, last week.......& her spirit visited me in my sleep to purr loudly at my side! The other cat, still living, was zonked out in the living room chair, when I got up....it wasn't him purring!!!!!!!
PAt QOP

Pat QOP, I promise I was not just trying to buck you up. I truly hope you will tell your guides what you want, and expect it to happen.

I love the dream about your cat.

I should have said visitation. The phone is ringing here so I'm a little too distracted.

JudiGemini:

I am not aware of saying any such thing. Can you point me to the source that encouraged you to believe this?

Thanks,

Catherine

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