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Hollywood East
For an administration that condemns the entertainment studios of Hollywood as a bastion of everything counter to GOP moral values (sic), it is a great irony that the antics of the Bush Cabal increasingly resemble a lively version of Hollywood on the Potomac. From its swaggering Wild West foreign policy to its ludicrous snake-oil budgetary numbers, life in the nations capital has begun to imitate art. Recently, we have even been treated to a special presentation of the Theater of the Absurd, where a faux journalist/gay male prostitute finds his way into the halls of power to help defend the honor of the administration from the attacks of the liberal media. Even FOX Broadcasting could not have come up with anything this brazen. Indeed, the one shining success of the Bush administration, which stands in sharp relief to its huge clutter of failed policy, is its ability to manipulate and stage its presentation to the unsuspecting public. Using well-choreographed public events, campaign speeches, and press conferences, it has meticulously sculpted its own image with the skill of a Michelangelo. Due to this hitherto unprecedented message control, many perceive George Bush in mythic dimensions - the ultimate heroic, compassionate, and strong president, touched by the fingertips of God. Needless to say, the Corporate Media has colluded in this unfolding prime-time president-as-superhero drama. While individual reporters fear losing access from the White House or being mocked into oblivion by the sycophantic conservative echo chamber if they step out of line, the executive boardrooms are happy to shore up an administration that offers them flaccid regulations and a sieve-like tax structure. The result has been a token mumble by the Fourth Estate that only barely informs the public about the multiple crimes of the Bush administration: the theft of the Treasury to enrich its friends; the drumbeat for war on false pretenses; the trashing of multiple international laws including the Geneva conventions; and the trade-in of a healthy, strong national future for a short-term, greedy power grab by the elite. Galloping into this environment of stagnant, dumbed-down, and vapid coverage (with a few shining and stellar exceptions), like vigilantes into the realm of a corrupt and inept county sheriff, the bloggers of cyberland are rapidly replacing the mainstream media as the source of the biggest scoops and the most interesting and daring investigative journalism. Many significant recent stories, including GannonGuckertGate, began on the blogs and then migrated to cable and network news shows when the clamor was impossible to ignore. It may be that this painful kick in the behind will motivate the more somnolent journalists of the mainstream to inject themselves with some adrenaline before they become completely obsolete. In any event, the rise of the blogs suggests a sea change in the world of journalism brought on by the growing role of the internet as a source of news. Astrologically, Uranus, the planet of freedom and revolution, is moving towards a square with the US natal Uranus, which rules the third house of communications and the media. This transit suggests a sudden awakening, rebellion, and transformation of the media that impacts the entire country. There are strong indications that this shift is already underway, but we can expect more momentous events in this area from March 19 through April 6 and during all of August 2005, when transiting Uranus will be waxing into its square with US Uranus, and from May 12 through June 9, 2005, when transiting Jupiter will be trine US Uranus. It is very possible that the media will pick up some significant stories during these times and run with them, despite their adverse impact on the administration. Given recent events, the newly designated Fifth Estate, the blogosphere, may be leading the pack. What makes the coming Uranus transit so significant is that there are parallel transits going on in the Inaugural chart and in Bushs natal chart. Uranus will be opposite Bushs Mars, semisquare his Midheaven, and square the Inaugural Moon from March 24 through April 15, from July 18 through August 16, 2005, and finally in January and early February 2006. This indicates momentous, upsetting, surprising events that will cause powerful transformations for Bush and his administration during these periods and, more generally, from late March 2005 through early February 2006. Bush will be angry and aggressive, and his administration will be quite agitated. In some way, the role of the press, possibly breaking from prior tradition or restriction, will be critical during these times. The coming Uranus transit may also signal various rebellions regarding health care or workers rights, since natal Uranus is in the US 6th house. A whiff of this is already in the air at NIH where overzealous restrictions on employees are causing an angry backlash. With the same Uranus transit conjuncting Iraqs natal Uranus (3/1 to 3/20/05), rebellion there and a desire to move into unexplored territory unhindered by US dictates may be on the horizon as well. Further indicating frustrations and severe difficulties for the US effort in Iraq, the Gulf War chart progressed Moon will be quincunx natal Saturn/progressed IC from March 10 through April 10. At present, we are nearing the end of Jupiters two-month station on US progressed Mars, quincunx US progressed Midheaven, and conjunct Inaugural Jupiter that has coincided with Bushs Jupiter return. Jupiter is the planet of expansion, optimism, and success. After February 23, this Jupiterian energy will be waning. Combined with US progressed Mars, it has brought an increase in aggressive bluster and hints of military action, most notably toward Syria and Iran. This transit has also included the increase in US troop deployment during the Iraqi election, as well as the feeling of success and optimism (Jupiter) surrounding that event and the potential for the spread of democracy it may have engendered in other Arab nations. As the transit wanes, we are likely to hear less threatening posturing from our government, and talk of attacking either Syria or Iran is likely to fade into the background. In addition, some of the more optimistic and hopeful mood regarding the imminent spread of democracy may diminish, especially as other events eclipse it come April. Also benefiting the Bush administration currently is the tertiary progressed Inaugural Venus conjunct natal Mercury. The natal conjunction of these two planets in the 9th house of the Inaugural chart suggests an improved relationship with foreign nations during this four-year term, alternating between somewhat cautious and more robust, due to the opposition from Saturn and the square from Jupiter. The Venus/Mercury tertiary progression, which covers the period between February 5 and February 25, has brought a thawing of relations with our European allies, as evidenced by Bushs somewhat successful diplomatic mission this week. In addition, George Bush may benefit from Jupiter a little beyond February 23 due to its transit to his natal Moon (3/1 3/11) and then square his natal Sun (3/28 4/4). These periods will be small pockets of optimism, protection, and expansive rhetoric, but will not preclude the dynamic and dislocating energy of Uranus as it dramatically enters the scene in late March. Also of significance in the past month, peaking on February 24, is the tertiary progressed Inaugural Ascendant square natal Neptune, the planet of illusion and deception. This has brought a sharp focus on the administrations tendency to deceive, obfuscate, and present an untrue image of itself and its policies to the public. The well-pilloried Bush budget, consisting of math that would shame a first grader, and the Gannon/Guckert expose of a partisan Republican plant in the White House press pool are the two big stories that relate to this aspect. Although the focus on administration deception and dishonesty is likely to fade for a few months after February 24, this aspect has brought us a preview of bigger things to come. From roughly May 2005 through August 2006, more lengthy progressions will renew the potential for scandals and the issue of dishonesty and deception permeating the Bush White House. The Inaugural Ascendant will reach the square to natal Neptune from May 2005 through January 2006, and the Inaugural solar arc progressed Ascendant will reach its square to Neptune from September 2005 through August 2006. As is becoming increasingly clear with each passing day, the Bush administration is one big shell game perpetrated upon the American people. Its glossily packaged policies and its heroic and moralistic image are frauds. Sinister and disdainful manipulation of the masses is its modus operandi. The Gannon/Guckert scandal is only the latest example of the administrations willingness to deceive the public, but it may have stepped on the wrong toes this time by riling a once-complacent media. Even some right wing commentators are incensed that a faux journalist was able to easily slip into the halls of power when others who are eminently more qualified have been forced to withstand months of intrusive investigation for the same privilege. Even if the mainstream media remains comatose in the face of the Bush regimes continuing crimes, the blogs are gaining impact daily as a potent, alternative news source. After all, nature abhors a vacuum. It remains to be seen what effect the explosive energy of Uranus will have when it comes thundering into expression early this spring and continues to pound away at the administration for many months thereafter. But we have to wonder if some of the sudden revelation inherent in this transit will be an exposure of what lives beneath the surface in the glitzy swamp at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. It would be a welcome awakening.
Nancy Waterman on Feb 25 | Link
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Excellent Nancy, really excellent. I wonder if this is why nothing ever seems to stick?? http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/2/22/155525/061 "We are no longer working to preserve the status quo. We are radicals, working to overturn the present power structure in this country." Paul Weyrich This is truly a must read. "It would be a welcome awakening." Right on, Nancy! Excellent read, as usual! You just get better and better, if that is possible! Posted by: Laurie on February 25, 2005 02:31 AMwonderful writing and analysis. we are spoiled! oh yeah, the 'dark underbelly" of the * administration as told by "jeff gannon." it's all happening and it's all good (except for guido wanting to go to some nyc club called 'the anvil'...shylurker, what did you do to him). uranus will do it's thing, we'll do ours, and there will be hell to pay. expect a total meltdown in the 'elmer gantry' segment of our glorious population. it's about time. talk about 'cognitive dissonance'!!! Anyone calling the blogsphere 'internetS' has no clue. Great writing Nancy. It brought to mind the old movies of Hitler and his throngs of heiling maniacs. I made tapes from a PBS special called 'Fame in the 20th Century'. One thing I notice especially during the freep attacks before the elections was that alot of great ideas started on the blogs got used and twisted in the conservative lingo and used against us. Eg : The * 'Flip flops' that we all sent around got used by * as Dems giving off 'mixed messages'. Remember that one? Sometimes I wonder if we give these creeps too many good ideas. Posted by: bhakti on February 25, 2005 03:21 AMGreat Article!!! I can always depend on Astroworld to have articles rich also in astrological technique. I'm learning so much from you guys. I think that Bush's second term will always have that tendency for deception, and also self deception with Neptune in the second-term chart so close to the Sun on the MC. I think that one reason so many people are duped by this administration is because the administration really believes their own lies. This administration has fallen into the most negative and horrific qualities of Neptune - self-deception, self-righteousness, and a "God complex". Well, Chiron is also there on the MC conjunct Sun and that can only mean a "wounded" second-term. Maybe it will be Uranus' revolutionary instinct that will make the public see the administration for what it really is - corrupt and ugly. Posted by: Travieso on February 25, 2005 04:23 AMFantastic article, Nancy. By now it is almost a cliche, but to paraphrase: "Could you imagine if a gay male hooker with at least five active call boy/military fetish websites using a phoney name, and with no journalistic experience was allowed to sit several rows from the President,got favored treatment from the press secretary re his highly partisan questions,got advance access to CIA documents and was told by the white house precisely when the next war would start, and the Pres. in office was named "Clinton"? The Republicans would be going wild like rabid dogs, and the press would have it on the front pages the next day! As I have said before, if the dems don't show discipline and spine in keeping this huge story alive and putting it sqarely in front of the American people, they are truly hopeless losers. The only bad thing is that the American people will continue to lose big time too. Posted by: Grizzly on February 25, 2005 04:42 AMNancy, Pat C, Hollywood East is well articulated, Nancy! I'll find myself thinking about what you've written long after today. I would like to think that every single person on this site had an inkling of what could happen when the *ushit gang came on the scene. It's why we've fought so hard these past few years. Little did i know, however, the depths of depravity, nor all the twisted paths they would create to maintain this puffery of power. The latter "puff" will be pinned, their power deflated. Let's hope, however, that it's not too late to reclaim our civil liberties. karen Kansas on My Mind Call it "What's the Matter With Kansas - The Cartoon Version."
More... Posted by: Pat C on February 25, 2005 01:58 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,5135502-103552,00.html Posted by: wv on February 25, 2005 02:32 PM
(Bush) Lost in Europe.... http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,5134901-103677,00.html Posted by: wv on February 25, 2005 03:04 PMNancy, I always enjoy your writing and you never disappoint. One question though....will the equinox coming so close to the Uranus transits have a major effect on the intensity of the transits? Posted by: Teresa on February 25, 2005 03:33 PMw - A great Sidney Blumenthal article about *'s trip! I have been waiting to hear the real scoop. Theresa - I just took a look at the equinox chart expecting some strong Uranian indication, which I can't really find. The tightest aspect is the mars Moon opposition, which would seem to imply the people (Moon and Moon as ruler of the 4th house0 are angry at the government and the president (Mars is in the 10th and the ruler of the Sun). This is however somewhat offset by the trine between Venus and the Moon. Saturn conjunct the IC is also a strong aspect and suggestive of difficulties. Some of this connects back to the troubles in the Inaugural chart, the chart of the adminsitration. Uranus will be square the Moon in that chart, and the Moon rules the 4th house. This Uranus transit (to Bush's Mars and Inaugural Moon 3/28 to 4/15) has three phases: late March and April; August; and mid January to early February. Each phase will relate to the previous one but be the next level of transformation. There are some indications that the beginning part of phase one will go well for Bush or at least he will come across with aggression and bluster. Transiting Jupiter will be square his Sun and Inaugural Venus: 3/28 to 4/4. Suggestive of an aggressive response of some kind is the progressed US Moon square progressed Mars (which is waning quincunx US prog MC): 4/4 to 5/4. But two other transits suggest complications or difficulties: transiting Pluto will be retrograding and moving to its exact quincunx with Inaugural Saturn 3/26 to 6/5. And Cheney's got Saturn coming in to exact opposition his Venus (ruler of his MC) 3/22 to 4/25. So it would seem Bush responds initially with aggression and bluster, which takes on a life of its own, but then causes trouble for the administration, tying its hands in some way. At least some of this could relate to the Gulf War going contrary to plan with progressed War Moon quincunx natal Saturn which already has progressed MC opposite natal Saturn. Maybe the new government throws out the US oil companies and the US government and declares sharia law? Maybe Seymour Hersh (whose aritcle on Abu Graib when Jupiter was stationary square US Uranus started it all) will come out with the article Scott Ritter mentioned that says the Iraqi elections were fixed. Very interesting artice, Nancy, and your "Comments" add even more dimension. The Anvil, Mr. Mike? Why, that just can't be! While here, Guido and Ouida May would sometimes go to a quiet gathering place caled The Angel. Surely you misunderstood. To all: According to this fellow, the end is in sight and it ain't pretty. Sigh O sigh O: http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0225/dailyUpdate.html Canada shuns missile defense Though decision rankles Washington, Ottawa marches to a different drum as it increases defense budget. Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin announced Thursday that his government will not participate in a US missile defense system. The decision by Mr. Martin, who had earlier signaled he favored signing on to the system, was an acknowledgement of the "deep unpopularity among Canadians of President Bush and his administration's project to try to shoot down missiles headed toward the United States," reports The Washington Post. 'We will continue to work in partnership with our southern neighbors on the common defense of North America,' Martin said. 'However, ballistic missile defense is not where we will concentrate our efforts.' His decision has more political than practical effect, because Canada agreed last August to allow its operators at the North American Aerospace Command [NORAD] center in Colorado to share information on incoming missiles, a key concession sought by the United States. Paul Cellucci, the outgoing US Ambassador to Canada, said he was "perplexed" by the decision, reports the Associated Press. Acknowleging that Martin heads up a minority government that "could fall over such a contentious debate," nevertheless Mr. Cellucci said the decision effectively "allows Washington to decide what to do if a missile was headed toward Canada," says AP. More... Posted by: Pat C on February 25, 2005 05:10 PMThis is actually the part of the Bush/Putin interview that caught my attention, it is still the journalists interpretation of the exchange... ~ snip ~ Bush and Putin hoped to keep their joint appearance focused on their agreements and close ties. One curious, rambling query gave them something to unite around irritation with their questioner. "The regimes in place in Russia and the U.S. cannot be considered fully democratic, especially when compared to some other countries of Europe, for example for example, the Netherlands," the Russian reporter said, his preamble taking so long that Bush pursed his lips in apparent impatience. He then asked Bush how the "great powers that have been assumed by the security services" in the United States since the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks square with democratic values. "We could probably talk at length," the journalist said. Bush clearly wasn't interested in that. He offered a brisk retort that democracy is doing just fine in America. "I live in a country where decisions made by government are wide open and people are able to call people to me to account, which many out here do on a regular basis. Our laws and the reasons why we have laws on the books are perfectly explained to people," he said. Putin, staging his own defense of Russian democracy, took all the talk about the Netherlands to heart. He said it's unproductive to compare which country is more democratic. Then he couldn't resist a little dig. "You have cited a curious example, the Netherlands," Putin glared. "The Netherlands is a monarchy, after all." ~ snip ~ Posted by: Morgana on February 25, 2005 05:44 PMMorgana, i heard this exchange on NPR and just laughed my fool head off. Bush: "I live in a country where decisions made by the government are wide open. . ." Where do you think Bush lives? Oh, yeah, that's right -- never-never or la-la land. Shylurker. . .great link. The "forecaster" neatly ties many events together in a brief concise manner. Good read. karen Posted by: farrout on February 25, 2005 06:55 PM
http://forum.truthout.org/blog/story/2005/2/24/183243/756 Posted by: wv on February 25, 2005 07:38 PMWednesday's Christian Science Monitor contains an interesting insight into why Ahmad Chalabi withdrew his bid to be Iraq's prime minister: Over the weekend, SCIRI leader Abdel-Aziz Hakim met with Chalabi and offered to make him the top financial overseer in Iraq, responsible for the oil, trade, and finance ministries in exchange for him withdrawing, according to the SCIRI official. http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0222/p06s02-woiq.html Now if you were a smart embezzler, which would you rather be -- prime minister, or the guy in charge of contracts and oil money? Right now it looks like the best outcome anyone can realistically imagine in Iraq -- the outcome that doesn't involve civil war and the kind of complete social collapse that made Afghanistan a happy home for terrorists -- is something that may not be worse than Saddam, but, if you're one of the out groups, doesn't look like much of an improvement either. With the near certainty of Ibrahim Jafari becoming prime minister, it's impossible to conceive of women's rights being equal to what they were in pre-war Iraq. Jafari was behind a move last year to make sharia the legal basis for family law. An "ayatollah in a suit." As Juan Cole recently discussed, the American press tends to portray him as a "secularist," but that's like calling George Bush a democrat. He makes a few noises in the direction of the ideal, but actions speak louder. http://bodyandsoul.typepad.com/blog/ Posted by: Jo on February 25, 2005 07:45 PM"The United States makes 50% of all the weapons that are being exported around the world. The US spends more money on the military than the 15 largest countries combined. And that spending is increasing exponentially. The military budget is approaching half a trillion dollars. So there're clearly winners and losers. And if you have stocks in those corporations I just mentioned, you're raking it in, man. It's a picnic for you. OK: How has the increase in media concentration affected this? DB: In Ben Bagdikian's /Media Monopoly/ in 1983, he said there were 50 corporations that control most of the media. Then it became 28, then 23, then 14. Then 10. Then, in his latest book, it's down to 5. 5 corporations control the media. And by the media, I don't just mean TV. I mean Hollywood movies, radio, DVDs, magazines, newspapers, books, books on tapes, CDs. 5 corporations. From 1983 to today, 2005, increase in concentration in the media has paralleled that of state and corporate power, and also of the increasing tendency of the United States to become even more aggressive and militaristic: witness the invasion of Grenada, the invasion of Panama, the first Gulf War, the bombing of Yugoslavia, the invasion and ongoing occupations of Afghanistan and Iraq." http://electroniciraq.net/news/1886.shtml Posted by: Jo on February 25, 2005 09:36 PM
http://207.44.245.159/article8164.htm Posted by: wv on February 25, 2005 10:11 PMhttp://juliusblog.blogspot.com/2005_02_01_juliusblog_archive.html#110936776484576936 The Double Standards of American Media
- A Republican administration gets caught paying columnists to spread propaganda, and illegally sneaking a male prostitute into the WH press corps to play fake journalist: Silence from the mainstream media. 2. - A Democratic politician (Gary Condit) gets frisky with an intern (Chandra Levy)... but later that intern is killed by a serial killer: The media turns it into the second largest scandal ever. Outrage. Investigations. Media frenzy. - The assistant of a Republican congressman (Scarborough) appears dead by what seems to be a blow to head in her office, in mysterious circumstances. The congressman soon steps down: Silence from the media. Furthermore, former congressman Scarborough is given a TV show on MSNBC! 3. - A powerful businesswoman with ties to the Democratic Party (Martha Stewart) is caught in a potential case of insider trading involving $60,000: Media pandemonium. Huge scandal. Frenzy and outrage. Stewart ends up being sentenced to prison for her involvement in this affair. - A Texas company with rock solid ties to the Bush administration and the GOP (Enron) collapses in one of the largest cases of corporate fraud in the history of the nation. We are talking billions of dollars here. There's info on alleged massive favors to Enron by Cheney and Bush: Silence from the media until it got too big... Then the case disappeared from the headlines. Ken Lay is yet to be charged or indicted. I rest my case. Nobody should be surprised at the way the Gannon scandal is turning. More... Posted by: Pat C on February 25, 2005 10:29 PMSo much about talking of peace, things have changed etc. etc. etc. like French La Monde says http://www.earthlight.org/2005/essay52_kennedy_pff.html For the Sake of Our Children
Reunion.....at arms length.. http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/022505I.shtml Posted by: wv on February 26, 2005 02:41 AM
Who conviced the president that we need a http://www.amconmag.com/2005_02_28/print/buchananprint.html Posted by: wv on February 26, 2005 02:49 AMWV you have some terrific posts today and Pat C I am so glad you posted the "Media Standards List" and ladies take a look at this; Bush is not going to reaffirm the Historic Women's Human Rights Agreement, Isn't that great, that pretty much puts us on notice that "toeing the line" for women is next in the US. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1267248 Posted by: Sally on February 26, 2005 06:56 AMA lovely respite from the madness around us. Enjoy. Thanks Jeanie, for that beautiful site! It is indeed beautiful ... have passed it along to others as well. It certainly was a respite from the daily madness .. thanks for sharing! Posted by: Siobhan on February 26, 2005 09:04 AMRussia considering renewed arms sales to Palestinians http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/545130.html Now that Venezuela has signed bilateral oil agreements with Iran, Russia and China, Jorge Boosh is seeing red. George takes these sovereign acts as a declaration of war - of open terrorism, as being sufficient evidence to include Venezuela in the coming holocaust of the axis of evil. The final stroke will come this year when President Chavez switches to the Petro-Euro, or creates a Latin American currency. In as much as the US is preparing Colombia to invade Venezuela, the faster Mr. Chavez acts the better. http://mparent7777.blog-city.com/read/1098039.htm Bahrain sees growing role for euro ~ snip ~ The GCC states, with largely similar economies, plan a common market by 2007, a crucial step to boost economic ties with their main trading partner, the European Union. Maraj said the GCC has to finalize convergence elements including public debt and budget deficits this year before creating a single Gulf Central Bank and a single currency by 2010. "Depending on what we agree on, this would be a key step toward achieving unification ... Although we have more or less great similarities with other countries, different countries have different levels of economic development," he said. http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=10&categ_id=3&article_id=12885 Lest you be spun by the spin, note that he comes home with only one tangible result an agreement by NATO to assist in training Iraqi forces, and a tepid assist it will be. Two of the NATO countries have agreed to supply one man each. Nearly all of the training will take place in Europe. ~ snip ~ Let me put into perspective just how small a stick he carries. The European Union, in all but military power, is itself a superpower. It has more people than we do, and it has a larger gross domestic product. Its currency, the Euro, is very strong, and our currency, the dollar, is very weak. Russia remains a military superpower, and its economy is growing faster than ours. It has recently undertaken an effort to modernize its nuclear strategic forces and even today has more than enough to blow us away. Furthermore, it recently signed a strategic defense agreement with China. As to that part of the world, China and India, both with more than a billion people each, have rapidly growing economies. China, in particular, has undertaken a military buildup, and, of course, all three Russia, India and China are nuclear powers. If Bush ever looked past his immediate political goals, he might foresee a future tripartite alliance that would mean big trouble for America. http://www.antiwar.com/reese/?articleid=4968
Sat., February 26, 2005 Adar1 17, 5765 Ibrahim, the Shin Bet wants you to join Qaida
http://mparent7777.blog-city.com/read/1098197.htm and why aren't we reading or hearing this from
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-4827703,00.html Posted by: wv on February 26, 2005 04:23 PMIt is a complete brainwash here from shrub govt. to main stream media that Egypt's mubarak is bringing democracy there. After rotten reds and The following is complementary to Pat C's link above. http://watchingthewatchers.org/index.php?p=364 The CEO of Luntz Research, rethug polster, has released a how-to book for fellow rethugs. It outlines the "appropriate" use of certain phrasing to further deceive we the people. The excerpt was obtained via Angry Girl. Read it and weep. karen Posted by: farrout on February 26, 2005 07:58 PMBoy this is juicy . . . not sure of the validity, so read with care. http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=2826 Posted by: Laurie on February 26, 2005 09:46 PMIsrael Blames Syria for Suicide Bombing 34 minutes ago Middle East - AP JERUSALEM - Israeli Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz blamed Syria on Saturday for a suicide bombing that killed four Israelis in Tel Aviv, and Israel's Army Radio reported that he also froze plans to hand over security responsibilities in the West Bank to the Palestinians. http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050226/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_west_bank_handover_6 Posted by: Jo on February 26, 2005 10:48 PMAnd after Syria and Iran, comes Egypt --- on the Neocon's agenda... ----------------- Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on Friday abruptly called off a planned trip to several Middle Eastern countries that had been scheduled for next week, a decision that came apparently because of the arrest of a leading Egyptian opposition politician last month. The decision highlighted a rift with an important ally over President Bush's push for democratic change. It came a day after Mr. Bush's tense meeting with Vladimir V. Putin, the Russian president, who was clearly uncomfortable with Mr. Bush's criticism of Russia's democracy. The linchpin for Ms. Rice's trip had been a planned meeting in Cairo of foreign ministers for the Group of 8 industrial nations and the Arab League to discuss economic aid and democratic change in the Middle East. But that meeting was postponed by Egypt on Sunday in an early sign of the tensions that have been building even as the Bush administration has praised Egypt for its help in the Israeli-Palestinian mediation after Yasir Arafat's death. Posted by: Jo on February 26, 2005 10:55 PMy'all 'scuse me... but doesn't * have more gall than the Romans (once had)! First he sends CIA into Georgia, then Ukraine to stir up trouble for Putin... then he tells Putin to his face [in a get-together to 'mend fences] to shape up and get more democratic! After he's told ALL of the ME he's bringing 'democracy' (must be ours he's exporting, since I haven't seen it here since he came on the scene) --- and since Syria and Iran have gained a couple of big buddies (I mean REALLY big, superpower type) he's pointing his gun at Egypt... who doesn't have any REALLY BIG friends at the moment... [pssst... better get some... and fast!] Condi won't get to wear all those pretty new outfits Wonkette says she got for Europe to the ME now, I guess... D#%@ these folks are decadent, disgusting, dangerous, deceitful, down and dirty, degenerates! Posted by: Jo on February 26, 2005 11:11 PMWeekend Edition "How to End the 1948 War" "Israel/Palestine: How to End the 1948 War" D uring the time of the Lebanon War, late at night at the Red Bar after editing the news, one desk head told about a young major general who was circulating in the salons of Tel Aviv society and introducing himself as a future prime minister. I remember asking: "But on behalf of which party?" "Ah, that isn't clear yet," replied my boss. That person, who at the time seemed like a joke to night-desk editors--who "know everything," even what cannot be published, or cannot be given prominence of place, or can be given prominence of place, with a wink--was the destroyer of the Israeli left, Ehud Barak. It is from this man that Tanya Reinhart's book begins, and the fact that the government is now headed by his military mentor, Prime Minister Ariel Sharon--who also did not know which party to join after the Israel Defense Forces--is only a minor element in the structure of parallels and similarities between the two. The main thing is that the elder of the two established the "project" of Jewish settlement in the territories, and the younger gave it the official seal of approval of the Zionist left, even before he became prime minister. Reinhart examines the closeness between the two with great precision. http://www.counterpunch.com/laor02262005.html Posted by: Jo on February 26, 2005 11:23 PMD#%@ these folks are decadent, disgusting, dangerous, deceitful, down and dirty, degenerates! You got that right Jo! Interesting link, Laurie! There is nothing that makes me suspicious of the report. Everything ROVE does makes me suspicious! karen Posted by: farrout on February 26, 2005 11:31 PMA very satisfying read Laurie! I don't want to burst anyone's bubble about the link Laurie provided re:Karl Rove's alleged forays into the gay scene, but I happen to know, through friends, that the man listed in the article as Miss Virginia Daddy Bear has been in a relationship for several, if not many, years and is widely known to not cheat or flirt or anything like that. And he certainly wouldn't do any of the above with Karl Rove! He's a true blue Democrat (leaning 3rd Party now), loves his husband dearly and would friggin' punch Karl in the face if he ever saw him. And I'm sure his Hubby would hold KKKarl steady so he could get a good shot! So, take at least that part of the article with a grain of salt. A lot of the people in the gay community who attend functions like MAL are pretty decent people and not likely to want to be seen or even fraternize with the likes of KKKarl Rove. Just thought you'd all like to know. Enjoy everyone's comments! We've got a lot of very smart, interesting, wonderfully open-minded people here at AstroWorld. :-) Peace. Posted by: Jonathan on February 27, 2005 01:40 AMWe sure do.....Thanks for the fact check Jonathan! I forgot to comment on an observation I've made, reading about Snow's demurrels that she would run for President, Sorry to join the bubble bursting but last week on DU (sorry don't have link) the research re: Voice of the WH led to a guy with a "white aryian", "anti-semite" sensibility. Most of the stuff he writes, while feeding our wishful thinking, is "too good" & too coincidental35 to be true. Posted by: M. on February 27, 2005 04:18 AM*****ALERT***** BOXER-CLINTON "COUNT EVERY VOTE ACT" have a great weekend! Posted by: mike on February 27, 2005 04:18 AMI'm sure that others have noticed but if you hadn't now Syria is the blame for every terrorists attack in the ME. Of course Al-Queda was the blame for every terrorist attack between 9/11 and the 2005 Inaguration . Now it's Syria/Iran 24/7. When will the sheeple awaken and what will they do when they finally awake. Posted by: Roderick on February 27, 2005 04:49 AMOh, dear Roderick--The sheeple are out shopping at WalMart. What an anti-depressant it is! Posted by: shylurker on February 27, 2005 06:10 AMoh, you have to go here. this is just wonderful narrative photo journalism. our * in germany: http://www.freiburger-medienforum.de/kino/0202/m.jpg oops, my freudian slips are showing. this is the correct link; our "fabulous" president visits germany: http://www.m2w-net.com/btour23-02-05/du-part1.htm Posted by: mike on February 27, 2005 08:17 AMIran and Russia Sign Nuclear Fuel Deal By ALI AKBAR DAREINI, Associated Press Writer BUSHEHR, Iran - Russia and Iran (news - web sites) signed a deal Sunday that would deliver nuclear fuel to the Middle East country for the startup of its first reactor a project the United States had for years pushed Moscow to drop, claiming Iran is trying to build a nuclear bomb. Iranian Vice President Gholamreza Aghazadeh and Russian Atomic Energy Agency chief Alexander Rumyantsev signed the agreement at the Bushehr nuclear power plant. The signing, which was delayed by a day, came after the two senior officials toured the $800 million complex. "Today, a very important development occurred, and that was the protocol on returning nuclear fuel, which we signed together. In the next few weeks many Russian technicians will arrive in Bushehr" to finish the plant, Rumyantsev said after the signing. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20050227/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_nuclear THE INDEPENDENT Washington in U-turn over Iran's nuclear programme The US is embarking on a major rethink of its policy towards Iran, which could see it dropping the strategy of confrontation and threat, instead offering Tehran incentives for abandoning its suspected nuclear ambitions. The striking change of policy emerged during President Bush's fence-mending trip to Europe last week, when for the first time he indicated that Washington endorsed the tripartite effort by France, Britain and Germany to reach a deal with Iran, offering technology in return for an end to its uranium enrichment programme. ~ snip ~ There have been reports that elite US units have been on the ground inside Iran pinpointing targets for airstrikes or commando raids, while Israel has dropped heavy hints it would stage an Iranian version of its 1981 attack on Iraq's Ozirak reactor if nothing is done. But every independent study here has concluded that the military option is not feasible. http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=615195 Okay, tired of 'talking' about this mess we call the *administration? Want to DO something? Here's a start... local high schools and school boards, recruiting stations, malls... oppose recruiters going into schools and lying to our children and sending them off to die... I mistakenly thought I was too old to hit the streets. Dang if that's so! The streets are where it's going to be... ------------ Calling all soldiers: Military recruiters face resistance from young anti-war activists The military spends about $3 billion each year to convince young people that enlistment will give them college money, job training and an alternative to working at McDonald's. http://www.amsterdamnews.org/news/Article/Article.asp?NewsID=54103&sID=4 most students don't know that: Most people in the military do not have time to attend college while in the service. To qualify for college money recruits have to pay $100 per month for a year. The unemployment rate for veterans is three times higher than the national average. People who sign up with the Delayed Entry Program are told they can't change their minds, but getting out is as simple as writing a letter. The enlistment contract is for eight years. There are other ways to finance college, like federal financial aid, private scholarships, going to community college or joining AmeriCorps. Posted by: Jo on February 27, 2005 12:41 PM"Subordinates of all kinds exercise their capacity for critical self-reflection every day -- that is why masters are thwarted, frustrated and, sometimes, overthrown. But unless masters are overthrown, unless subordinates engage in political activity, no amount of critical reflection will end their subjection and bring them freedom." [Carole Pateman, The Sexual Contract, p. 205]
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The highest paid do the best under the "private" accounts ..... http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/state/11006823.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp Chicago Tribune (reprinted in the Fort Worth Star Telegram) Galveston plan' seen as model for private retirement accounts Lebanese friends have told me the situation is quite tense in Lebanon. Sat. 2/26/05 a huge human chain of protesters more than 2 miles long from the grave site of Hariri to the St. George Hotel, near where he was killed, held hands and declared their silent resistence to the present Lebanese government, Lahoud et. al., and the Syrian presence. This is a biggie for Lebanon since protesters are from all sectors of the society, all religous groups and all economic groups. Still, they are worried about their ability to effect change. Schools are closed for 2 days. There are some who are convinced that the *sh, US covert groups killed Hariri to get Syria into an uncomfortable position. Most Lebanese, hover, are still convinced the Syrians were behind this. Posted by: Beasley on February 27, 2005 04:38 PMNow this is really funny - "Wednesday's Christian Science Monitor contains an interesting insight into why Ahmad Chalabi withdrew his bid to be Iraq's prime minister: Over the weekend, SCIRI leader Abdel-Aziz Hakim met with Chalabi and offered to make him the top financial overseer in Iraq, responsible for the oil, trade, and finance ministries in exchange for him withdrawing, according to the SCIRI official. " http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0222/p06s02-woiq.html That's like putting Neil Bush (of Silverado bankruptcy fame) in charge of Riggs Bank - ahem... I'm surprised the King of Jordan doesn't have something to say about this. When Chalabi shows up elected for anything in Iraq My favorite quote of the week: "I'm a working man," said another. "When a millionaire starts trying to help me with my money, I get scared." Posted by: abilene on February 27, 2005 09:22 PMWho Is To Blame? A Harris poll on Iraq, 9/11, Al Qaeda and Weapons of Mass Destruction: What the Public Believes Now came out last week and, not surprisingly, Americans are stunningly misinformed: 47 percent believe that Saddam Hussein helped plan and support the hijackers who attacked the U.S. on September 11, 2001 (up six percentage points from November). This Harris poll, in other words, is more damning of those of us in the news biz than it is of the hoi polloi that Leno so enjoys holding up to ridicule. If you were, say, the head sports editor for The Philadelphia Inquirer and poll results indicated that, say, 47 percent of your readers erroneously believed the Eagles won the Super Bowl, then you should probably consider tendering your resignation. http://www.angrybear.blogspot.com/ I don't understand this... the story was filed last November, but the London Telegraph (Brits' military mouthpiece) didn't publish it until today? ----------- Colin Powell, the outgoing US secretary of state, was given his marching orders after telling President George W Bush that he wanted greater power to confront Israel over the stalled Middle East peace process. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/11/21/wpow21.xml
From Jo's link above: "The US is embarking on a major rethink of its policy towards Iran, which could see it dropping the strategy of confrontation and threat, instead offering Tehran incentives for abandoning its suspected nuclear ambitions. The striking change of policy emerged during President Bush's fence-mending trip to Europe last week, when for the first time he indicated that Washington endorsed the tripartite effort by France, Britain and Germany to reach a deal with Iran, offering technology in return for an end to its uranium enrichment programme." If this is true, it shows that the military push from Jupiter stationary on US prog Mars is now dissipating and we will get less of this macho talk now.Thank goodness!! Right on schedule. Posted by: Nancy on February 28, 2005 03:36 AMhttp://www.motherjones.com/news/dailymojo/2005/02/potemkin.html Bush's Potemkin World "The great motorcade," wrote Canadian correspondent Don Murray, "swept through the streets of the city The crowds but there were no crowds. George W. Bush's imperial procession through Europe took place in a hermetically sealed environment. In Brussels it was, at times, eerie. The procession containing the great, armour-plated limousine (flown in from Washington) rolled through streets denuded of human beings except for riot police. Whole areas of the Belgian capital were sealed off before the American president passed."
More..... Posted by: Pat C on February 28, 2005 01:33 PMhttp://www.mediatransparency.org/stories/nrbconvention.html Air Jesus With The Evangelical Air Force As Christian broadcasting's leading lights gathered at the National Religious Broadcasters' convention in Anaheim, California, only power-mongering and profiteering could keep their contradictions from bubbling to the surface More.... From Pat's link above: "Back then, I was less aware that, for Bush & Co., all life is lived inside a bubble carefully wiped clean of any traces of recalcitrant, unpredictable, roiling humanity, of anything that might throw their dream world into question. On the electoral campaign trail in 2004, George probably never attended an event in which his audience wasn't carefully vetted for, and often quite literally pledged to, eternal friendliness, not to say utter adoration." This makes me think all the more how the Uranus transit to Bush's Mars and Inaugural Moon will shake them all up. They are so used to a very tightly controlled environment. Posted by: Nancy on February 28, 2005 02:57 PMYea, verily... they always forget--without forgetting--about all those countless variables that rush in from this space or that space--to add up n' mess 'em up. Posted by: JoannaOregon on February 28, 2005 03:36 PMMy question is, does it shake up the people that keep him, et al, in Office? Can we be rid of the shakedown of the US? Posted by: Pat C on February 28, 2005 03:40 PMWhat is stimulated in the US chart is Uranus - rebellion and break with the past. Also Uranus rules the 3rd, so I would expect this to hit the press quite hard - a sudden event that wakes them up and causes a shift of consequence. What is stimulated in the Inaugural chart (the administration's birth chart) is Uranus square the Moon, ruler of the 4th house. I think the adminsitration will be upset, very agitated, and irritable, with things hitting from unexpected places. What is hit in Bush's chart is Mars, ruler of his MC. This suggests a big shift of focus, a big change in reputation and how he puts himself into the world. Since Mars is in his 2nd house, perhaps it will have to do with some financial unraveling. But it will hit the bushies hard and cause some kind of shift in direction or series of shifts. And Bush will be very agitated and angry. He is under Jupiter initially, so expect swagger as his first response. Posted by: Nancy on February 28, 2005 04:30 PMThe pot calling the kettle black..I wonder if they realize they are describing the state of our own country? Probably and laughing all the way to the bank. U.S. Highlights Rights Issues in S.Arabia, Russia ~ snip Despite widespread criticism its own human rights record worsened last year due to scandals of torture of detainees in Iraq (news - web sites), the United States issued an annual report rapping other nations for violations in 2004. Washington complained that in Russia, which is a key ally in the U.S. war on terrorism, the Kremlin consolidated its central power. It also expressed "concerns about the erosion of government accountability" due to media restrictions, a compliant legislature and political pressure on the judiciary. ~ snip ~ http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=584&e=1&u=/nm/20050228/pl_nm/rights_usa_dc Posted by: Morgana on February 28, 2005 04:40 PMI hope that not only does Uranus wake up the media but shock the right-wing commentators into silence. Posted by: Teresa on February 28, 2005 04:42 PMTomorrow is March 1. In a few short weeks the perceptions will shift, people and the press will wake up. I really liked the article Pat C. posted, "How Bush Really Won." It's the fear consciousness and the perception Bush would keep us safe and represent the American spirit, but it's emotion and not reason ruling. We have not had another terrorist attack on American soil and, in my opinion, maybe OBL has realized that a terrorist attack could actually help Bush by creating the perception that he is a strong warrior. Without an attack to respond to, the Bushco either has to create their own, or be exposed. I belief that exposure is coming. Posted by: Sharon on February 28, 2005 05:32 PMThis is off topic but i feel compelled to post this. Sgt. Kevin Benderman -- an Army mechanic -- refused to deploy to Iraq for a second tour of duty. He will be court martialed on desertion charges. The reasons he refuses to return are available on the site posted below. Both Kevin and his wife Monica are well spoken, intelligent and need our help. I am deeply honored by the courage exhibited by this couple. More on above posts later. karen I have a question to ask the astrologers: Is it possible to see indications of somebody being blackmailed? It's the only possible way I'm able to figure out why somebody like Lieberman, McCain and all the rest would support *ush. Last week our local Air America station read a letter sent to one of the local repug groups accusing them of blackmailing our public officials. Just wondering? Posted by: abilene on February 28, 2005 06:49 PM
http://news.independent.co.uk/low_res/story.jsp?story=615341&host=3&dir=70 Posted by: wv on February 28, 2005 08:24 PMNancy, Astrologer KN Rao predicts disastrous period for April 9, 2005. 'Cause Captain Sally said!! Isn't there a full or new moon coming around that time, too, that is a real doozey? I'll look around and see if I can't find my source on that. Posted by: shylurker on March 1, 2005 12:05 AM
Back in the 80ties was a scandle named the Franklin coverup. This was about kidnapping kids or using them from orphanges and foster homes and selling them as sex toys to the elite and mid east princes.
I have done a lot of astrology with the dates that I could find and have yet to find Johnny Gosh birth day. Looking looking looking. Even though I may get a "razzie" on some of the astrology I have done this year, kinda 0 correctness. the astrology makes sense that this may be true. He is some place between 31 and 36 at this time. Try a google search on Johnny Gosh and you may find some of the links. So the story has died on media but going strong on the web. On May 27, 2005 Mars squares Bush Uranus. 12;30 noon DC. This may be it. Also Pluto is 23 Sag and that 23 seems to run thru the chart dates I have found. Neptune was 24 Sag when Johnny was kidnapped. I did find that the story about it being Johnny hit the web Feb 20, 2005 At 2:29 am and I used DC. When you dig into that chart it gets quite interesting. If you are real interested so a search for Johnny Gosh. Posted by: jean on March 1, 2005 12:30 AMJean, Johnny Gosch's birthdate is on his mom (Noreen Gosch)'s website. She gives it as November 12, 1969. He was kidnapped September 5, 1982. The thing about Gannon/Guckert's age is interesting. At one place he claims to be in his early-mid 30s but at another place he claims to be 10 years older than that. I trust you have seen the photos over at DU on that unbelievably long thread. Posted by: shylurker on March 1, 2005 01:06 AMPS to Jean. Maybe you could email Noreen Gosch and ask for the birthtime. I did a chart very quickly (I am barely a neophyte, so if you get different results that'll account for it) and I was so frustrated because, using noon time on his birthdate yields a moon that is a tantalizing position. Posted by: shylurker on March 1, 2005 01:09 AMSorry to have to remind you-all, again but dimson has Uranus conjunct the North Node (good luck) trine Jupiter (good luck)....so if you
"The 9/11 hijackers came largely from Europe. It's a significant gap that we were not broadcasting in Arabic to Europe," said Kenneth Tomlinson, chairman of the Broadcasting Board of Governors, the U.S. agency in charge of U.S. civilian TV and radio broadcasts overseas." http://www.dailystar.com/dailystar/news/63369.php --------- Really? Well, if they came from Europe, why didn't * bomb Europe instead of Afghanistan and Iraq? And pray tell why is the US gov't in the PR business --- the Pentagon has a channel now, and we pay for the only network allowed to operate in Iraq (and it's not Al-Jazeera) and now we're shipping propaganda to Europe. Jeeze! I'm a hair away from becoming an anarchist! Actually, I think I'm already there... Posted by: Jo on March 1, 2005 01:18 AMGuess the Brits are not as gullible as we... they're not buying the Blair version of the Patriot Act... ---------- Press Association The Government's majority was slashed to just 14 tonight as a cross-party bid to ensure judges, rather than the Home Secretary, impose control orders on suspected terrorists was narrowly rejected by the Commons. The result is a humiliating blow for the prime minister
"Lebanese ministers forced to quit "Prime Minister Omar Karami announced the resignation two weeks after the murder of his predecessor Rafik Hariri. " ___ How come they can do it - and we ca't although we've marched by hundreds of thousands..maybe millions? I suspect because dimson never sees how much we are opposed to him. Maybe we need to do what they did to Lyndon Johnson in the 70's. Played muffled drums for the death march in the park opposite the White House (Viet Nam war) shouting he (Lyndon) had to go.
AHA ! this is what did it...and this is what we don;t have: " Banks, schools and businesses had closed after an opposition call for an anti-Syrian general strike." http://www.newsforreal.com/ Oh, Yesssssssssssssssssss! Posted by: shylurker on March 1, 2005 01:55 AM
http://207.44.245.159/article8172.htm Posted by: wv on March 1, 2005 02:19 AM
"Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" http://207.44.245.159/article8171.htm Posted by: wv on March 1, 2005 02:36 AM
http://www.channel4.com/news/microsites/T/torture/index.html Posted by: wv on March 1, 2005 02:40 AMI have returned....having an enormous amount of Leo energy, February proved to be yet again another black hole in time. Having had the flu (as did my entire family, each a couple of days after one another), and having had to pack, move and unpack at the same time, I am still barely able to function, although my energy seems to be back to normal. In time I will be able to actually understand all the news that is happening and have something intelligent or at least really bitchy to say.....missed this site so much! but I must say, 2 weeks without internet was quite a vacation.... Posted by: judi gemini on March 1, 2005 02:49 AMYep, Pallas I have to agree(your post March 1, 01:16 AM.) Bush must have a horse shoe stuck up his arse. Nothing ever sticks to him. As my Grandaddy used to say about a "lucky" person: "He falls in s-it, but always comes out smelling like a rose". I believe he is a dark entity along with most, if not all, of his family. These entities don't play by the same karmic rules as the rest of us. Nothing seems to stick to them. They dwell in darkness. Patricia Posted by: Patricia on March 1, 2005 03:40 AMThis is hopefu. From Du: It seems some members of congress are already thinking about impeachment. This is hopeful M, like you said, "at least the word has crossed their mind. Abilene, blackmail would have to do with transits of Pluto or Neptune or both to personal planets. The natal chart would show if a person has something to hide. Blackmail has long been a way of doing business in Washington. J. Edger Hoover was a master at it as was Lyndon Johnson. Hoover kept files on all government officials and their families and used it when he needed to do so. Sadly in the US Chart we have Mars in the 7th house of open enemies (and it rules the 12th house) in a square to Neptune in the 9th (higher offices, politicians and the natural ruler of the 12th) There is and always has been much to hide in the US Government and all who dwell within. Pluto aspecting those two planets is leaking information like a sieve. Watch the blogs, the information is out there, but do the majority of the people care, because it's not on mainstream media. We love drama in this country and shift and change, if we get too bored with watching the stars, and their drama's, more and more will be turning to the internet. That is already happening bit by bit. If the bloggers aren't shut down by the government then mainstream may be forced to cover some of this. Well we can dream. Posted by: Sally on March 1, 2005 05:25 AMWhat you are about to read is a verbatim exchange between a woman and GWB at one of the Town Hall Meetings. WOMAN IN AUDIENCE: I don't really understand. How is it the new [Social Security] plan is going to fix that problem? Verbatim response:
As a non astrologer who really enjoys this website, could any of you astrologers weigh in with your feedback as to the form Bushco's predicted cataclysmic event/s might take in late March early April? I have some ideas: 1/ One of the big Asian central banks finally decides to massively dump dollars, causing a chain of economic events disastrous to the U.S. 2/ Fitzgerald FINALLY brings some indictments in the Plame affair, including (hopefully) Cheney and/or Rove 3/ There is some tragic event in Iraq concerning hundreds of U.S. soldiers killed at one time as in Beirut in 1982 4/ Something BIG comes out (pun intended) regarding the brewing Gannon/Guckert scandal which even the whore press can no longer ignore! 5/ Someone in a very high position in the CIA or FBI finally blows the whistle about what REALLY happened on Sept 11, 2001, implicating the administration in some meaningful way Any thoughts folks? Posted by: Grizzly on March 1, 2005 05:33 AMRe: ***h's SS explanation...HUH? As for impeachment, you're absolutely right Sally, what is hopeful to me about it is to find that there are people in Congress who are actually thinking and saying the word. One can dream, and given what you, Claudia and Nancy have said about our imperial ruler, maybe this COULD come to pass. Posted by: M. on March 1, 2005 05:45 AMWhat's the matter M, have you lost your ability to understand MUD, or the thoughts of someone who doesn't have a clue what he's talking about, doesn't have any plan but to suck all the money out of this country and it's people, but knows it wouldn't be politically correct to say so. Grizzly, any/all and more of those things could happen with the energy coming up during the April to July/Aug. period. Posted by: Sally on March 1, 2005 06:22 AMO, Captain Sally. There is an eclipse coming up in early April 2005. I do hope you will comment on that, as well as the conjunction of progressed suns of Smirky, his father & grandfather. Hoo boy! Posted by: shylurker on March 1, 2005 06:35 AMHm.........shylurker, Jean, will you be sure to post whatever it is you get on Johnny Gosch here? Ever since I saw the photo of him (in his newspaper delivery clothes, from that incredibly long DU thread) I've had an odd connected feeling. I have a feeling about Johnny's "destiny". I would be most interested in whatever you find. Posted by: KM on March 1, 2005 06:53 AMI've been watching that progressed conjunction of the 3 *'s for three years now. What I like to think is "the end of the dynesty" and it could be the end of it, but I don't think it will be with a bang, just a slide down. The other thing it could be is the collective generational sickness comes to a head and splashed out there for all to see but that would take investigation and our journalist these days seem a bit weak kneed. This eclipse is an interesting one because it's in Aries and aspects the Earthquake in India. There is a vedic astrologer in India whose entire astrological expertise is in Earthquakes and he can predict one within minutes and 10 miles of where it will happen. He can also predict, with a high degree of accuracy, the time and the strength of the earthquake. In December he said this would be a very bad eclipse, and he pointed toward Alaska as a likely spot. I've not read anything by him lately, but will look. I've done some research on past earthquakes and I sure agree this eclipse doesn't look good. This "Cardinal" period we are entering is what my article will be about and the eclipse will be included. Have any of you been listening to the "shock' that the Serial Killer in Kansas could have actually been the "guy next door." What's the Matter with Kansas" Posted by: Sally on March 1, 2005 07:07 AM Yup Sally! Re: * reply. This is why he has handlers. Probably the person talking in his ear was on a coffee break. It brought up the breakdown of our language to me. It brought up people yapping on cell phones, watching segmented fast clips on TV, and having noise around all the time. With so much info in our brains how can people decipher noise from logic? *'s synchophants probably had no idea what he said (who can?) but bobbed their heads up and down anyway to 'look good'. Please everyone, try and maintain a bit of quiet time during the day so you can listen to your own mind. The 'knowing' will always tell you the truth. Not THE TRUTH but your inner truth.
http://www.news-journalonline.com/03ColEssays.htm Posted by: wv on March 1, 2005 03:25 PMKiller in Kansas.......the surprising thing to me was that the people hadn't learned what I thought we all learned from looking at the various serial killers through the decades ------- they COULD be the guy next door; the mask of evil looks surprisingly benign, so the evil one can be a boy scout leader, and can even go to church. :0 Anyone notice that serial killers seem to come in mostly white wrappers (are caucasian)? Or is that my imagination? Wonder what our neocon "friends" make of that? Posted by: KM on March 1, 2005 03:43 PM
As a result, some Republicans are reported to be talking about a compromise in which they would agree to some kind of tax increase, probably a rise in the maximum level of earnings subject to the payroll tax. They would offer to use the revenue from that tax increase, rather than borrowed funds, to establish private accounts, thereby assuaging fears about the huge debt buildup that would take place under the administration's plan. They might even agree to make private accounts an add-on to traditional benefits, not a replacement. But it would still be a bad deal. Creating private accounts in the current environment, no matter how they are financed, would be a mistake. First, think about the fiscal implications. We have a huge budget deficit, largely caused by Mr. Bush's decision to cut taxes while waging war. Any realistic plan to bring the budget deficit under control will have to include tax increases, especially if we want to avoid the harsh cuts the administration is trying to impose on Medicaid and other essential programs. There may be a place for a rise in the payroll tax maximum in such a plan: AARP, among other groups, has proposed such a rise as one way to improve the Social Security system's long-run finances. Devoting the extra revenue to the trust fund would also reduce the overall budget deficit. But if the revenue from a rise in the payroll tax maximum was used to subsidize private accounts rather than to bolster the trust fund, it wouldn't address any urgent priorities: it wouldn't help the long-run finances of Social Security, it wouldn't reduce the budget deficit, and it wouldn't support crucial programs like Medicaid. What it would do, instead, would be to get in the way of any return to fiscal sanity. After all, raising the maximum taxable income would be a fairly stiff tax increase for some taxpayers. For example, someone making $140,000 a year might owe an extra $6,000. And the taxpayers who would be hit hardest by this tax increase would, in many cases, be the same people who will face a growing burden from the alternative minimum tax. As a result, an increase in the payroll tax maximum would make it much harder to pass other tax increases, frustrating efforts to do something about the deficit. Furthermore, it's all too likely that any compromise that created private accounts would turn into a Trojan horse that let the enemies of Social Security inside the gates. This might happen almost immediately, as a result of the legislative process. As you may have noticed, moderates don't run Congress. Suppose that a moderate senator thinks he has struck a deal for fully funded private accounts that don't directly undermine traditional Social Security. Almost surely, he would be kidding himself: by the time the conference committees were done with the legislation, the funding would be gone or greatly reduced, the accounts would be bigger, traditional benefits would have been cut, and the whole thing would have turned into a privatization wish list. Even if that didn't happen, private accounts, once established, would be used as a tool to whittle down traditional guaranteed benefits. For example, conservatives would use the existence of private accounts, together with rosy scenarios about rates of return, to argue that guaranteed benefits could be cut without hurting retirees. In short, anyone who wants to see the nation return to fiscal responsibility, wants to preserve Social Security as an institution or both should be opposed to any deal creating private accounts. And there is also, of course, the political question: Why should any Democrat act as a spoiler when his party is doing well by doing good, gaining political ground by opposing a really bad idea? (Hello, Senator Lieberman.) The important thing to remember is why the right wants privatization. The drive to create private accounts isn't about finding a way to strengthen Social Security; it's about finding a way to phase out a system that conservatives have always regarded as illegitimate. And as long as that is what's at stake, there is no room for any genuine compromise. When it comes to privatization, just say no.
From Salon's War Room: Oh, that crazy Vladimir Each for its own reasons, CBS and the White House would both like to have the story of George Bushs National Guard service or lack thereof relegated to the ash heap of history. But the story continues to play itself out on two fronts, one fairly predictable and one that has caught the White House quite by surprise. First, the predictable. Back in early January, CBS Chairman Les Moonves fired Mary Mapes, the producer of the "60 Minutes" report on Bush's suspect service, and asked for the resignations of three other CBS employees who were involved in it. After extended negotiations, two of three resigned late last week. Senior producer Mary Murphy issued a conciliatory statement through her lawyer, and a source told the New York Times that Betsy West, a senior vice president for CBSs news division, had also resigned. That leaves only Josh Howard, an executive producer for "60 Minutes." Like Murphy and West, Howard has been talking to a lawyer. Now, the unexpected. When George Bush sat down with Vladimir Putin in Bratislava last week to deliver his long-awaited lecture on civil liberties and freedom of the press, Newsweek says Putin shot back with an attack of his own: "We didn't criticize you when you fired those reporters at CBS." Bush was apparently slack-jawed, and senior White House aides were angry. "Putin thought we'd fired Dan Rather," one administration official told Time. "It was like something out of '1984.'" Newsweek , rising to the defense of freedom of the press in these United States, says its "all too clear" that Putin sees the relationship between Bush and the American media as being just like his own. Presumably, that means that Putin thinks Bush controls the U.S. media in the same way that he controls the Russian media. We cant imagine where he got that idea. http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000818662 Richard A. Clarke Talks About Writing Regular Column for the 'N.Y. Times Posted by: Pat C on March 1, 2005 04:26 PMYeah, Richard Clarke could replace the NEOCON David Brooks at the NYT... I'll vote for that! Posted by: Jo on March 1, 2005 04:31 PMBlackcommentator has a number of GOOD articles last week, more than the usual number of articles, in honor or Black History month, I assume. Here's one: He denounced labor unions, the Securities and Exchange Commission, Medicare, Social Security, you name it. He denounced the civil rights movement as socialism. To him, socialism and communism were the same thing. And when challenged to explain his prejudice, he could not defend his argument, either ideologically, polemically or academically." Dr. Yoshi Tsurumi, commenting on former student, George W. Bush http://blackcommentator.com/127/127_fr_right_wing_dreams.html Posted by: Jo on March 1, 2005 04:34 PMGood one Jo! http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=971 Bush ratings
Paul Krugman's article, though excellent, may be missing something, wv. Part of the reason (i suspect) that the cabal is attempting to hasten through social security changes is for another reason altogether. Pallas or Pat C may be able to add another dimension to this but somehow the influx of capital as a result of the changes may put the u.s. on more solid footing with its debtors. This greedy horde does not care one whit about how their policies effect we the people. They DO care, however, about their own fat pockets. Re: the Gannon case. Posted some time back about my feeling that this was somehow connected to the Franklin case. So, i'll be curious what you come up with, Jean. Re: Bush's inane statements. What can be said? Speaking with a mouthful of *hit always indicates uncertainty of your subject or covering up a lie. Finally, the latest polls continue to reflect how well the indoctrinated the American people are especially in regard to terror, family values et al. We could all begin using new phrasing with just a twist of preposition. Instead of the "war ON terror" it needs to be called the "war OF terror." karen
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/03/01/MNG06BIARP1.DTL&type=printable Posted by: wv on March 1, 2005 05:29 PMGood stats, Pat C.,
Three weeks ago, John Kerry told Don Imus that it was "way too early for anybody to be talking about" running for president in 2008. But as the Washington Post reports this morning, it might not be "too early" any more. With a slew of other Democrats making moves toward presidential runs, Kerry seems ready to make his first step now, too. On March 7, Kerry and his wife, Teresa, will host a gathering at their Washington, D.C., home to launch a new political action committee called Keeping America's Promise. Team Kerry says the purpose of Kerry's PAC is to strengthen the Democratic Party but also to "transform the infrastructure, energy and excitement from his presidential campaign into a permanent grass-roots organization that promotes the causes Kerry advocated on the campaign, and supports candidates up and down the ticket across the country." One Democratic media strategist put it another way: If Kerry wants to run again in 2008, Dan Payne told the Post, "This is the kind of thing he has to do." -- Tim Grieve Those tapes of George W. Bush -- the ones in which he admits to smoking marijuana, hints at cocaine use and plots his campaign for presidency -- seem to be gone for good now. After playing some of the tapes for the media and suggesting that the worst was yet to come, Doug Wead reversed course and said he shouldn't have betrayed the president. When Wead made his apologies last week, he said that he would work with his lawyer to get the tapes "back to the president to whom they belong." But that's not what Wead did, exactly. If he'd given the tapes back to the president, they might have been available for public review, albeit after Bush leaves office, under the Presidential Records Act. Instead, the New York Times reports this morning, Wead gave the tapes to Bush's private counsel. The distinction was not lost on the White House, where spokesman Trent Duffy said: "The tapes are in private hands, not at the White House, and as far as the White House is concerned, this is a closed matter." -- Tim G http://images.ucomics.com/comics/bo/2005/bo050228.gif The Chicago Tribune banned this Boondocks cartoon The fact that the country perceives the Republicans stronger on Integrity + Values is a problem for the Democrats/Liberals. I guess our so-called lack of integrity is symbolized by Bill Clinton, Janet Jackson, and Hollywood and music in general. Since we are more tolerant, we also believe in artistic freedom and probably do not see the exposure of a breast as quite as shocking. The only Dem. I know of who made family values an issue is Lieberman, someone who is now exhibiting very little backbone (as I perceive it). But the fact remains, how do we Dems/Libs turn things around so that the average, conservative, family-minded America sees that we do have Integrity?! Posted by: Sharon on March 1, 2005 06:40 PMwv, I don't get where Kerry thinks he should run again. A lot of people feel betrayed by him including myself. The fact that he caved so early after the election did it for me. That whole situation kicked up a lot of doubts in my mind. I won't vote for him again, period! As for the *ush tapes, I find it hard to believe they are gone for good. I could be wrong but if it was me, I would have kept a copy for insurance. If he didn't then he's just stupid. Sally, Thank you for answering my questions on the blackmail issue. As I said, it's the only reason I can come up with for McCain and Lieberman to be hugging and kissing *ush. "Embrace *ush in public or else." Posted by: abilene on March 1, 2005 06:42 PMHey wv, the San Jose Mercury News did run it. It was in our paper today. Posted by: Morgana on March 1, 2005 06:43 PMBut what are "family values"? Is that in fact code for heterosexual committments?. Because frankly, I am fed up with the suggestion by the media that we liberals need to toe the family values line. And what are they anyway? The values of a church going, scout leader who also happens to be a serial killer? Those of a leader who starts a false war and sends so many to their deaths? The liars who steal public money and get away with it because they profess to be on the side of God?. I am fed up with it and I want these family values people to start paying attention to my values. Live and let live, do no harm, help when you can, be fair, do not judge others because of the way God made them, honor and recognize women as equals and love thy neighbor as thyself. There is truth and untruth. Yet in recent years there are those who have tried to blur the lines between the two. Values are values, family or not and if something is truly valuable there is a univeral truth to it and there can be no eqivocacy with untruth or selective values that only favor the few as opposed to the many. Posted by: M. on March 1, 2005 06:56 PMSometimes when it rains, http://www.thehill.com/thehill/export/TheHill/News/Frontpage/030105/DOJ.html http://rawstory.com/news/2005/index.php?p=134 and pours. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A61253-2005Feb28.html Let us hope this is just the beginning of a huge, cleansing deluge that will take away the whole corrupt bunch. Posted by: shylurker on March 1, 2005 07:37 PMHere's a family values story. Feel free to pass it on. Novak tells Vanity Fair that he's doing God's work He's been known for 40 years as Washington's journalistic "prince of Source: Richard Leiby, The Washington Post http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/01/business/media/01cnd-tier.html?hp The Times Names Tierney as Op-Ed Columnist Posted by: Pat C on March 1, 2005 08:10 PMThe Times Names Tierney as Op-Ed Columnist http://www.cjrdaily.org/archives/001148.asp The favored candidate to replace William Safire as the voice of conservatism on the New York Times op-ed page is long-term Timesman John Tierney, according to a report in New York magazine this week. Tierney, currently based in the Times' Washington bureau, has worked as a reporter on the paper's Metro desk and as a staff writer for its Sunday magazine. But his chief qualification for elevation to the op-ed page is his stint from 1994 to 2002 writing "The Big City," a bi-weekly column on the front page of the paper's Metro section. Those columns were marked by an eagerness to puncture some of the pious certainties of Manhattan liberalism -- a typical 1994 piece poked fun at Borough President Ruth Messinger for ignoring real city problems while speaking out against a proposed Canadian hydroelectric dam that would have flooded land used by Cree Indians in northern Quebec. More... Posted by: Pat C on March 1, 2005 08:50 PMM What are "Family Values" - who knows? What is "The Gay Agenda" - who knows? I think they are both figments of sick minds. Posted by: wv on March 1, 2005 09:51 PM
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http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/objects/pages/PrintArticleEn.jhtml?itemNo=546220 Posted by: wv on March 1, 2005 10:07 PMThe ACLU is in there plugging away, or maybe chipping away - but they keep trying. It wouldn't be a bad idea for everybody, anybody who can afford it to send the $10 Tell Attorney General Gonzales to appoint an independent special counsel to investigate torture What the ACLU lawsuit against Rumsfeld says: Secretary Rumsfeld and other high-ranking military officials failed to stop the torture and degrading treatment of detainees in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Guant�namo even after credible reports of abuses began to emerge in the media and in military documents. Although Secretary Rumsfeld knew of wrongdoing, and even ordered investigations into the torture of prisoners, he knowingly limited those investigations in a way that blocked high-ranking civilian or military officials, including himself, from being held accountable. This morning, the ACLU filed a federal lawsuit charging that Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld bears direct responsibility for the torture and abuse of detainees in U.S. military custody. The lawsuit seeks a court declaration that Secretary Rumsfeld violated the U.S. Constitution and international laws. Officials at the highest levels of government bear the ultimate responsibility for the actions of the U.S. military. I urge you to join us in our call for accountability by viewing a two-minute Web movie and calling on the Attorney General to appoint an outside special counsel to investigate how our government's torture policies took such a misguided path. This landmark lawsuit was filed by a coalition of human rights advocates on behalf of eight former detainees who were incarcerated in U.S. detention facilities in Iraq and Afghanistan, where they were subjected to torture and other cruel and degrading treatment. None of the men was ever charged with a crime. Because I know you care about the guiding values of justice and liberty that define American life, I'm writing to ask you join us in seeking to hold our leaders accountable for the torture carried out in our name. Watch our Web movie: "The New Face of America?" Send a message to Attorney General Gonzales urging him to appoint a special counsel to investigate high-level violations of the War Crimes Act and other federal laws forbidding torture. Because of the support of people like you, the ACLU was able to carry out the groundbreaking Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuits that have brought to light much of what we - and the world - know about the torture practices of our government and the Bush Administration. To preserve our country's international reputation as a beacon of freedom and to protect our own soldiers from similar mistreatment, our leaders must be held accountable. I am never more proud to lead the ACLU than at times like these when our voices are raised together to demand justice for those who cannot demand it for themselves. Thank you for being part of that work. Sincerely, Anthony D. Romero ACLU Sues Rumsfeld, What the ACLU lawsuit against Rumsfeld says: Secretary Rumsfeld and other high-ranking military officials failed to stop the torture and degrading treatment of detainees in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Guant�namo even after credible reports of abuses began to emerge in the media and in military documents. Although Secretary Rumsfeld knew of wrongdoing, and even ordered investigations into the torture of prisoners, he knowingly limited those investigations in a way that blocked high-ranking civilian or military officials, including himself, from being held accountable.
pparently I'm not the only astrologer calling attention to the fact that Pluto is approaching the Galactic Center (earth changes and magnetic pole change): "From Nolle's March 2005 site posted by Dover: Pluto at 24 Pluto's retrograde station at 24° 31' Sagittarius on the 26th is the other major celestial reversal of late March. Falling so close to sensitive points in the US Declaration of Independence (opposite Mars) and Federal Reserve (conjunct Venus) charts, as well as conjunct the Galactic Center, this particular Pluto station seems to point to significant developments focusing on the American economy and financial system. Falling so close to the Saturn station in Cancer, I suspect this is part and parcel of the dollar decline trend - but a new contribution to that momentum. And since both stations are within a degree of exact all month, the triggering event could happen anytime at all in March . . . perhaps in association with the March 7 Mars opposition to Saturn. Given that both stations portend uncertainty and a reversal of previous trends, it's hard to envision a scenario where the financial markets do much of anything other than take profits and retrench. And again, this may already be in progress as the month gets underway . . ." http://www.astropro.com/forecast/predict/2005-03.html Good grief. Wolfowitz might head the World Bank!!
In one of the most intriguing stories of the day, the Financial Times reports that Paul Wolfowitz, the US deputy secretary of defence and one of the chief hawks in the Bush administration, is on the short list to succeed James Wolfensohn as president of the World Bank. The worldbankpresident blog describes the report as a bombshell as it would be a controversial choice. You can stay that again. Of course it would not be the first time that someone from the Pentagon has headed the world's leading development institution. That distinction belongs to Robert McNamara, who came to grief over the Vietnam war. He ran the Bank from 1968 to 1981, in what could be seen as a very public act of contrition for his conduct of the war. Any similarities end there. Wolfowitz as far as we know has no regrets about the war. He also has no background in development, although that has been no hindrance to past candidates. As far as the White House is concerned, it wants someone who carries clout on Capitol Hill, as one of the main jobs of the World Bank president is to pass the begging bowl in Congress to get money for the institution. That is why in the past non-entities such as Barber Conable, a congressman, was given the job. Wolfowitz of course would carry an enormous amount of prestige. No doubt he would be a controversial choice for the developing world, but he would fit perfectly into the White House world view. The Bush administration is on a mission to spread democracy around the world - albeit on a highly selective basis. For George Bush, countries such as Burma and Iran are "outposts of tyranny", but he would not dream of lumping friends of the US such as China, Russia and Saudi Arabia into that category. Be that as it may, one can easily see Wolfowitz using World Bank loans to promote democracy around the world. To give him his due, Wolfowitz has consistently pushed democracy. Back in the 1980s, when he was assistant secretary of state for east Asia, Wolfowitz played a key role in levering out President Ferdinand Marcos from the Philippines once the people had turned against him. Of course the question arises as to whether Wolfowitz would really leave his Pentagon perch, where he wields much more influence than he would at the World Bank Posted by: Nancy on March 2, 2005 01:48 AMNancy I posted that story at 5:04 PM with the snide remark since Chalibi was going to be busy they
Prophecy, Popes & the Antichrist It's uncertain whether the third secret of Fatima was ever truly revealed, though Hogue suggested the version that Cardinal Ratzinger released in 1960, which he interpreted as describing a cataclysmic outcome to the Cuban missile crisis, may have been it. We're in the era of the third antichrist that Nostradamus foresaw, said Hogue, who believes this person will become known as such within the next four or five years. In one of his quatrains, Nostradamus named this antichrist as Mabus. The most likely candidates to be Mabus, based on anagrams, are either Usama (Bin Laden) or GW Bush, noted Hogue. He also related a Nostradamus quatrain, that refers to "Dubieux" or the dubious one, which he thinks may be a reference to Bush's nickname Dubya. From his study of "political astrology," Hogue predicts Bush will enter a difficult time frame running from the end of July through October. Pat C, There is nothing of a humanitarian nature to be seen, heard , smelt, or gleaned from any appearance or action Wolfowitz has ever taken. "To give him his due, Wolfowitz has consistently pushed democracy. Back in the 1980s, when he was assistant secretary of state for east Asia, Wolfowitz played a key role in levering out President Ferdinand Marcos from the Philippines once the people had turned against him. Of course the question arises as to whether Wolfowitz would really leave his Pentagon perch, where he wields much more influence than he would at the World Bank" Gee, wasn't Marcos one of those dictators the US put in place until it was no longer convenient? Kind of like the Shah of Iran, Pinochet, Papa Doc and oh yes...whatshisname - Saddam? No, Wolfowitz would not be put into the World Bank as a humanitarian -the G-8ers who bring countries to bankruptcy and their knees with their loans, and enslave the countries' peoples to work for lower wages and less benefits. He would be being put in to further ripen countries to be taken over - and plunder their resources. Nor would he be welcomed asking for any money from Congress after he couldn't explain what happened to the first 80 billion that was allotted to "reconstruction" of Iraq much less why he was asking for more. That was one grilling that C Span showed that I was glued to - watching Such an appointment would be one more confirmation to Washington that the judgment of the administration is looney. Posted by: Pallas18 on March 2, 2005 02:53 AMFor what it is worth, Rudolf Steiner, writing in the early 20th Century, said the Antichrist would be born in America. He also talked about a War of All Against All that would come around the turn of the century, if I remember it correctly. Posted by: Nancy on March 2, 2005 03:42 AMI just looked up a bit of Steiner. It seems the War of All Against All comes at the end of the 5th post Atlantean epoch, which we are now in, and which goes for another 3000 years. So we have quite a while, though he warned of evil forces that could try and make it come too early and mess up our evolution by making things unfold sooner than they are supposed to. Posted by: Nancy on March 2, 2005 03:49 AMstarrynights, Novak would probably shout them down and give them the rasberry. That's his style. Nancy, ..........sigh. One day at a time, I guess. Posted by: Pat C on March 2, 2005 04:07 AMBy all means,let us all do everything we can to ensure that Wolfowitz gets his due and everything else that is coming to him, to the very last drop. Do Hogue's Nostrdamus prophecies foretell what will happen to the anti-christ? Tush or Osama...hmmm...my money is on the former. Also 3-4 years would place him right in the time frame for ending his presidency as the most reviled pRez in history. But what, I constantly want to know, will be the tipping point? This current pope has said that the 3rd. Fatima prophecy was him getting shot. I always that notion to be extremely self serving and egotistical. Sally, Nancy, now Nolle tell us something is coming, so I guess we all better hold on tight. Posted by: M. on March 2, 2005 04:29 AMThere is certainly something coming and I would say that the worst time for this group starts in April gaining in strength through July and August, and waning through to Sept. and Oct. In case we've forgotten everything except the * march to Armageddon, I would like to remind everyone we are living on a very precarious ledge of the earth's crust ever since the Earthquake in the Indian Ocean on the 26th and the end of March/April might not be so kind to the earth. I know you remember that the earth moved on that earthquake and destabilized all the other fault lines. When Bush stood on the Abraham Lincoln and declared that "the mission accomplished in Iraq" I had a sharp intake of breath and thought "it's going to get bad." Tonight on a news program they were extoling all the articles out, including Richard Cohen's, that it looks like the "Bush Doctrine" was the right one and "democracy" was on the move in the Middle East. I had the same sharp intake of breath. It's gonna get bad, and the storm is gathering for spring and summer, around the earth, around money (particularly US money,) around the Middle East, and around this administration and nearly everyone involved with this administration including the Republican Party. It's an ill wind blowing in a lot of areas and they don't all include GWB. More on all of this later this week, I promise Posted by: Sally on March 2, 2005 04:55 AM I don;t think Rudolph Steiner was known as a great prophet or psychic. If I remember he and I seem to remember all other prophecies of the third anti-christ were that he would be born in Most birthdata about binladen gives 1957. But none is confirmed - Meanwhile, more Nostrodamus on the Three Antichrists: Nostradamus - The Third AntiChrist.
Firstly the antichrists represented world powers and were able to motivate and inspire large number of followers. Both Hitler and Napoleon were leaders of the most powerful nations at their time. They had the will and the means to achieve their goals no matter the cost and the consequences. They were able to sell their ideas to their followers and convince whole nations to participate in their plans. The political and economic circumstances needed firm and resolute actions. The antichrists brought hope and strength. It was the objection by other nations that finally set off the slaughter between mankind. The cost and the consequences were large-scale death, destruction and suffering for France, Europe and the world in general. It seems logical that the third antichrist will fit in, in that same way. He must be the leader of a most powerful nation at a certain moment in time. A man with the will and means to achieve his goals no matter the consequences. This leader will be loved by its own people and will lead them to believe that they deserve more and better. Under his leadership his own country will flourish and expand. In the first stages, this antichrist will point out external enemies to give strength to his strategies. He will strive for a strong military and a stronger control on his own people, their opinions and actions. The antichrist and his close followers have the uncanny ability to convince people of the right of their actions and their methods. Under other circumstances these methods would be unnecessary, unacceptable, wrong or illegal. In order to expand his power, established international agreements get canceled or changed. Rules that apply to all countries and people will not be allowed to apply to him or his people. The antichrist will follow a strategy of expansion: nations will be manipulated, countries invaded and control of natural resources reallocated in order to improve the quality of life of his own people and to ensure their safety. The consequences of the growth and success of this one nation will negatively affect other countries. Initially the politics followed, will cause unrest, discussion, frustration, doubts, unbelief etcetera but no actions. The stronger and more influential the nation of the antichrist is, the longer it takes for other countries to take defensive measurements. When countries finally stand up and join together against this power it will be the beginning of large-scale destruction.
"This current pope has said that the 3rd. Fatima prophecy was him getting shot. I always that notion to be extremely self serving & egotistical." I wld agree with that, M... but it's perfectly consistent with "white" supremacist boyz' perspective... which is theyselves as the center of the universe & only theyselves. A roman catholic priest & friend, ordained at the vatican, once told me that the letter was about the church's terrible misogyny & treatment of the planet. Sounds about right to me. (Who nose... it might've also said something about wretched pedophilia.) Posted by: JoannaOregon on March 2, 2005 05:03 AMAnd "The Letter" might've gone on about the church's historical love of torture, persecution, murders galore, wars, huge thievery, meddling, lying, other various deceits... you know, the regular old stuff in a patriarchal dominator model Cult of Death. Posted by: JoannaOregon on March 2, 2005 05:10 AMYes Sally, I caught that on CNN - extolling that it looks like dimbot was right and democracy is spreading in the middle east - someone tried to bait Christianne Amanpour with that - and she answered she would not necessarily agree that democracy was What she and we know, is that it's "puppet democracy" - the same thing the US foreign policy has always done - installed a puppet - until it blows up in their face - you'd think someone would have realized the jig is up on that kind of fforeign policy. And apparently Colin Powell as a parting shot is revealing that he did try and was not asked back. Nevertheless he's still a whore. He and his son My "partner in crime" had just expressed his dismay about the subject of tonight's Nightline, by saying, "They're saying ***h was right about democracy in the ME". Then I read what Sally has to say. Now the issue for us is an ambivalent one in that while we agree that democracy for everyone is preferable to anthing else and Saddam WAS the scum of the earth. But to hear ***h lauded cuts, to the very core. This is such a dichotomy. Don't want anyone hurt or unhappy, except for his group, who have earned their unhappiness, but the problem is, for him to get his so many others will have to be hurt first. Or maybe not, maybe what is going to happen will be like an arrowin his heart, and his only, but somehow I don't think so. Life doesn't seem to shake out that way. Posted by: M. on March 2, 2005 05:23 AMA roman catholic priest & friend, ordained at the vatican, once told me that the letter was about the church's terrible misogyny & treatment of the planet. Well Joanna, that certainly makes more sense to me, especially the bit about the planet which the Vatican has helped to overburden, by refusing to acknowledge the need for restraints on population growth. Looks like they had no respect for the Lady of Fatima either. Well, the Nostradamus prediction certainly sounds like the guy currently occupying the WH, except for one part, Under his leadership his own country will flourish and expand. We are certainly not flourishing.
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