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Rising from the Ashes

Making the assumption that nothing derails Dr. Dean in the next few hours he can become 'The Leader' of the Democratic Party. Times have changed, the stakes have risen, so too the political playing field is no longer controlled by weak spined Beltway insiders that do not speak with the People's Voice.


Chart

The Democratic Party transit chart finds Chiron 29 Capricorn 17 inconjunct the DP Ascendent. The DP finds itself re-alligning its self image, redefining itself. The change was forced upon the DP after it died on November 2, 2004 when George Bush was freely "elected" and the DP party pronounced dead by television pundits universally. Ah, but here's the rub, unlike some of their personal philosophies on death, where rebirth isn't on the table, politics plays by universal rules and from death there is rebirth. The DP folks have spent their time gestating, their vast sea of 49 million angry blue folks found their voices in the blogsphere (gotta love Aquarius right now) while pundits reveled in disecting the death throes of the Democratic Party, their attitude served only to further energize the DP base rather than bury it.


As Howard Dean grabs the flying reins of the proverbial wagon before it plunges down yet another cliff lead by those of the Republican Lite Bush Bussed Demoncrats, pro lifers, lets send our children to die in the sands for oil types, a new Democratic Party can emerge. He has the T. Sun in this chart connecting to the n. DP Moon in Aquarius (people of the blogsphere are in big play), with the communication vehicle of Mercury in Aquarius conjunct the Sun and conjuncting the DP n. Pluto, a force for change, destruction and rebirth Howard has power and communication at his finger tips.


Another set of players in this chart bring the T. Neptune head to head in exact opposition to the DP n. Uranus in the DP 12th House which will amplify the loss and chaos that preceeds new birth. Lot's of whiney spinless whimps won't like rocking the boat, scaredy cats.


The transiting Moon (Power to the People!) is in parallel with the DP n. Mars. The new elected leader will have no problem articulating the platform of the Democratic Party. The anger that the roiling blue folks are bringing to the surface as we watch Social Security, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Israel, Palestine, off shoring, using torture as the norm, loss of free choice over our bodies, loss of freedom of speech, corrupt press, the raping of our environments, deployment a helter skelter foreign policy based on Charles Manson, on Bush goes day after day as the Republican Corporate Jaugernaut destroys America to rebuild it in its image. The list goes on and is long and ugly. Well this Moon/Mars parallel transit is a very powerful energy, at an all time high energy, as Henry Seltzer calls it, "A very damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead" transit time.


Yupper's it going to be an important time in our collective history. It is up to the grass roots, so ya'll wakeup now Winter is near past and our Spring will be upon us, a time of new life.

The chart jpg.

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Morgana Seawalker on Feb 11 | Link
Comments

Please excuse any typo's or mangling of the english language I didn't get this to my proofer...my bad.

Posted by: Morgana on February 11, 2005 07:38 PM

No excusing necessary, Morgana. Your piece rocks with energy and purpose. Spring can't come soon enough!

Posted by: Barbara on February 11, 2005 07:57 PM

Morgana Music! My, how we have missed hearing your musings! Welcome back... and at such a juncture... DEAN heading up the transformation (Pluto) of the DP! Love that

"transiting Moon (Power to the People!) is in parallel with the DP n. Mars."

The blogs are alive with the sound of the people... they are working their fingers and dendrites off --- watching every evil move these fascists make... Howard Dean is going to be this administration's 'worst nightmare'...

Thank you for your uplifting article...

Wonderful:

Moon/Mars parallel transit is a very powerful energy, at an all time high energy, as Henry Seltzer calls it, "A very damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead" transit time.

WAA- HOOOOOO!

Posted by: Jo on February 11, 2005 07:57 PM

a little aside - dKos has more news, a teeny tiny bombshell...

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/2/11/13626/5691

Posted by: Jo on February 11, 2005 08:01 PM

Finally, some uplifting news! Go Dean.

Posted by: Mark on February 11, 2005 08:28 PM


Mother Lode

These are the spoils for which George W. Bush has killed more than 100,000 human beings.

By Chris Floyd

02/11/05 "Moscow Times" - - The hoary adage that "there are none so blind as those who will not see" should be carved in stone at the National Press Club in Washington. Surely there can be no better motto for the cozy clubhouse of America's media mavens, who seem preternaturally incapable of recognizing the truth -- even when it stands before them, monstrous and unavoidable, like a giant Cyclops smeared with blood.

For just as they botched the most important story of our time -- the Bush Administration's transparently deceptive campaign to launch a war of aggression against Iraq -- the clubby mavens are now missing the crowning achievement of this vast crime: the mother of all backroom deals, a cynical pact sealed by murder, unfolding before our eyes.


http://207.44.245.159/article8035.htm

Posted by: wv on February 11, 2005 10:09 PM

terrific Morgana! typos? didn't notice 'em. Does this mean we can all BE MAD AS HELL AND NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE? 'cause that would feel soooo good. We have got to stop this, here. now.

Posted by: Peg on February 11, 2005 10:19 PM

Thanks Morgana! Great article!!! Looks like maybe they won't be able to fix this election. Ha ha. Last night when I watched KO and this guest was so great -- he said the problem is not that Gannon reserved the site HotMilitaryStud.com, the problem is that is he is an almost fake reporter using a fake name, denied a pass to Capital Hill, (a requirement for a long-term White House pass and the reason why he needed a daily pass for 2 years) yet he had access to the President and was able to leak confidential information from the CIA. So well put I almost started cheering!!!!!! I had just seen Wolf Blitzer's totally biased report and was pretty bummd - but good ole Keith actually reported the true story.

This was after I purchased the new Vanity Fair - with a great article by conservative reporter Christoper Hitchens where he explains why he thinks there was election fraud in Ohio. I saw that article mentioned here on AstroWorld - which is why I ran out to buy the magazine - I get so much information here!!!! Thanks!!!

Dean has the brains, morals and balls to actually stand up to these criminals. He seems like a street fighter to me. The kind of guy I'd like to walk me down a dark alley!!! (and are we in a dark alley or what?) Dean reminds me of a short kid who had to learn to beat up the bigger kids. Those people sometimes not only end up tough - they understand the plight of the underdog - which can make them more humanitarian.

I feel like the burner is on high and I'm starting to see some bubbles!! Yippee!!!!

Posted by: SuzieLiberal on February 11, 2005 10:48 PM

One more thing about the article in Vanity Fair - is it possible the rats are abandoning this sinking ship? Does it seem like Bush is starting to lose some of his support???

Posted by: SuzieLiberal on February 11, 2005 10:50 PM


Rice lauds Pakistan

http://www.dawn.com/2005/02/11/top5.htm

Posted by: wv on February 11, 2005 11:02 PM

Morgana:

A question -- I am not sure from your article but do you see some internal fighting in the DNC with Dean. It seems the rank and file of the DNC -- people such as Pelosi were very opposed to Dean and apparetnly tried whatver they could to stop him. I agree with all of you that Dean is the only good news in quite a while. Do you see a split within the party -- the birth a new party or do you see everyone uniting under Dean's leadership?

Posted by: FRS on February 11, 2005 11:21 PM


Dems growing spines.....send roses...

http://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/2005/02/002910.html

Posted by: wv on February 11, 2005 11:41 PM


Democrats not givings Bush a break this term...

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0211-11.htm

Posted by: wc on February 11, 2005 11:45 PM

FRS
Ideally it would be awesome if everyone managed to unite under his leadership. Is there a split in the Democratic Party, you bet your sweet bibby...ya got George smooching Lieberman at the SoU, ah yup I say some Dem's are Lieberman Lite and other's took off their rose colored lens.
I suspect the Dr. Dean will drive the germs out of the Democratic Party with his strong medicine and I'll bet we see a better and stronger Democratic Party that paints a clear difference between Bush and our future presidential candidate.
I was sorely disappointed in Nancy Pelosi her support of Roemer threw me. And if these folks think Dr. Dean is going to follow their lead...right, have some Dr. Goods medicine from this here current Admin. medicine show sold by the local snake oil man himself.

If you look like a Republican, act like a Republican then ya should be a Republican. From the idea that if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, then it's a duck. It's going to be one hot kitchen for Bush's lover.

Posted by: Morgana on February 11, 2005 11:47 PM

Morgana! SMOOCH!!

Posted by: Pat C on February 11, 2005 11:54 PM

DailyKos mentioned that "Talon News" (Gannon's fake news service) is a "cheesy name."

Got to tell you, "The Talon" is the name of Smallville's High School newspaper. Watch out--Gannon is going to be sued by Clark Kent. ;-)

As soon as Dean is confirmed Chair our Democratic Women's Club will send a check to the DNC with the "for" line reading, "in honor of Howard Dean." The sooner the DINOs learn that the grassroots are backing Dean, the better.

Posted by: Barbara on February 11, 2005 11:59 PM

Such hope Morgana, cool, clean water for parched throats. Thank you.

Everyone who can, please donate to the DNC after Dean is confirmed, $1.00, $5.00 etc. and add $ 0.06 to the amount. That is the way people are going to let them know that this money is coming in for Dean.

And that article WV! "like a giant Cyclops smeared with blood" wow!

Posted by: M. on February 12, 2005 12:06 AM


Dean vows to bring Democrats back to power...

http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/10859524.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp

Posted by: wv on February 12, 2005 12:35 AM

Just a reminder here...
The fascists are going to be after Dean... 'cause they're after us. I mean, you can't have fascism if you got two parties, right! Well, we have to stay on our toes and protect Dean's back. First hint of attack on our man, and it's grrrr... back off you dogs... That INCLUDES as Morgana points out, those who walk in Dems' clothes but talk the fascist talk... don't know about you, but I'm darned tired of those Dems who "give comfort to the enemy"... During WWII in France, the resisters 'marked' the collaborators... we need to do the same.

I hope a Dean chairmanship turns the DP upside down, inside out, and shakes the spineless out --- top to bottom... time to stand and be counted. Those who voted YES to Gonzales WILL be remembered.

Posted by: Jo on February 12, 2005 12:57 AM

Here ya go... Guardian reports a 2nd Dem supports private SS... Sen Carper, who along with Ben Nelson of FL, also voted YES on Gonzales...

You think these two are Democrats? Yeah, and I'm Camilla Parker Bowles!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-4794895,00.html

Posted by: Jo on February 12, 2005 01:07 AM

Great article, Morgana! You can really feel the fresh breezes of spring coming in along with Dean. I too am waiting til Dean is chairman and then I will send in a check. I'm glad to hear others have had the same idea.

Posted by: Nancy on February 12, 2005 01:13 AM

Is this the reason Tony is going to support *'s venture into Iran?

http://www.theinsider.org/mailing/article.asp?id=0508

Posted by: Jo on February 12, 2005 01:19 AM

A-l-l-l-l-l right! Morgana's back!! Liked the article, Morgana, many thanks. So happy to "see" you here again.

Now, everybody go tell cnn if you think Dr. Ho Ho will be good for the Dems. Please.

http://www.cnn.com/

Posted by: shylurker on February 12, 2005 02:02 AM

Right on Jo!
I just e-mailed Gwen Ifal, and set her straight, becuse tonight on Washinton Week, again they characterized Deans followers as "kids" and hung the "too left" label on him reducing him to a "one dimensional shallow, TV personality" like themselves.
They make him out as some kind of Pied Piper, who normally intelligent adults wouldn't follow!
Actually the one who fits that description; would be our "estimed leader who is shilling the kids with a fast game of "Do you want to be a Millionaire?"
I also pointed out the credit the bloggers deserve for locally pin-pointing the failings of the other candidates, and passing them on!
Perhaps that was a mistake? Shouldn't bring the blogger power to the attention of the unconscious who dwell in the rarified atmosphere of the media world!
PQOP

Posted by: Pat QOP on February 12, 2005 02:29 AM

Another poll on B***'s approval rating ( slipping again!)
Under the article in the bottom left handlist of MSNBCs top stories.
Go vote!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6952383/
PQOP

Posted by: Pat QOP on February 12, 2005 03:32 AM


morganna, thanks so much. i like that "A very damn the torpedos, full speed ahead transit time." that's great news. here is more. harry reid and dean had a sit down on dividing up the duties. remember, the DNC chairman has never been a key spokesman for the party, never in my life anyway. so dean being at the table was great news. reid and the congressional democrats will focus policy and dean will be our spokesperson AND implement new organizational and grass roots functions. this is just great. reid/pelosi are both elected (twice, constituents then members of congress). dean has a lot of sway and currency. i think that this was done very quickly and gracefully.

n.b. somebody might want to a harry reid, D, NV chart. he's our guy for now.

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ok, things are a bit too serious. if you liked either of these movies -- "office space" ... "swingers" -- you will just go nuts over this suprbowl piece. this is brilliant performance art and just a good old time. if you go look, leave a comment saying you are from AW. they're doing reciprocal posting of sites that point to the blog. if i were under 30 today, this is just what i'd be doing.

Posted by: mike on February 12, 2005 03:55 AM


I just got back from a week in Mexico (Cabo san Lucas) and saw this article Morgana and thought I had gone through a time shift. When I saw this I thougth "Morgana's back, it must be spring." Great article, and blessings on you for showering us with your insights.

I've seen several articles of Dems "warning" Howard not to rattle their boat, with Nancy Pelosi saying "he would have to take some of his marching orders from them" boy are they feeling the wave about to wash over their shores. I also noticed, happily that GWB has not receive a "bounce" in the polls from his Jupiter return. Jupiter doesn't always bring blessings, I personally lose money and his Sun does square his Jupiter, anyway I was happy to see his polls going down.

Great article Morgana and glad you are back, at least for today.

Posted by: Sally on February 12, 2005 05:37 AM

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/columnists/daniel_sneider/10670214.htm?1c

Sobering forecast of change in the balance of world power

Mercury News


Last week the National Intelligence Council, the CIA's think tank, released a 119-page report pondering the world the United States might face in 2020. In a reflection of the myopia of our times, the Washington Post's front page story focused almost entirely on the CIA's prediction that Islamic terrorism would still be with us 15 years from now.


Left for bare mention was the far more stunning vision that was the main focus of the intelligence report. By 2020, the document forecasts, the United States will have to share global domination with the rising Asian powers of China and India.


``The likely emergence of China and India, as well as others, as new major global players -- similar to the advent of a united Germany in the 19th century and a powerful United States in the early 20th century -- will transform the geopolitical landscape,'' the CIA report concludes.


If the 1900s were the American Century, the authors say, ``the 21st century may be seen as the time when Asia, led by China and India, comes into its own.''


This is not news for those of us who live in Silicon Valley. But the rest of the country is still catching up to this reality. The report, ``Mapping the Global Future,'' reflects not only the views of the intelligence community but also academics, business people, government officials and other experts around the world. The map is worth studying.


Asia's rise starts with economics. By 2020, China's economy will exceed all others except the United States in size. India will likely have overtaken Europe. Other would-be powers such as Brazil and perhaps Russia may follow in their wake.


Europe and Japan face a huge demographic breakdown, with aging populations and shrinking workforces. They must allow large immigration from the south or face economic stagnation.


Globalization, the growing cross-border flows of information, technology, capital and people, is the ``mega-trend'' shaping everything else. Those countries best able to access and adapt new technologies will benefit most from this trend.


While the United States currently sets technology standards for the rest of the world, ``there are signs this leadership is at risk.'' The report details the decline of science and engineering graduates here and the shrinking of privately funded research and development.


``Asia looks set to displace Western countries as the focus for international economic dynamism,'' the CIA forecasts.


Asia's multinational corporations -- from Sony and Samsung to China's Huawei -- will drive global integration. The trend of outsourcing jobs to Asia will only accelerate, expanding to more occupations. ``The transition will not be painless and will hit the middle classes of the developed world in particular,'' an alarming idea for those who have already felt this impact.


The ``Asian face'' on globalization may create a rival financial system, one less dependent on the dollar. The currency reserves of Japan, China, Korea and India, now three-quarters of global reserves, will change the way business is done. And economic and cultural ties across Asia will grow, at the expense of Europe and America.


``By 2020,'' the CIA predicts, ``globalization could be equated in the popular mind with a rising Asia, replacing its current association with Americanization.''


This Asian century does not only have an economic and technological dimension. China is set to overtake Russia as the second largest defense spender after the United States. In the next two decades, China will emerge as a ``first-rate military power.''


``The key question that the United States needs to ask itself is whether it can offer Asian states an appealing vision of regional security and order that will rival and perhaps exceed that offered by China,'' the CIA concludes.


Unfortunately, American attentions are focused elsewhere. ``The U.S. preoccupation with the war on terrorism is largely irrelevant to the security concerns of most Asians,'' participants told the intelligence council.


``U.S. disengagement from what matters to Asian allies would increase the likelihood that they would climb on Beijing's bandwagon and allow China to create its own regional security order that excludes the United States.''


It is a sobering vision of not only the world ahead but the world we are living in right now. Read it.

Posted by: Pat C on February 12, 2005 03:15 PM

World Peace Herald has article this a.m. re meeting in Munich — 41st Munich Security Conference, the one Rummy decided not to attend, given his charges of war crimes pending in Germany (which the Court declined to pursue, saying USA should bring charges). Rummy is sending his number one go-to guy, Wolfowitz, who is accompanied by... Sen Lieberman.

http://www.prospect.org/web/page.ww?section=root&name=ViewWeb&articleId=8226

The meet-up is an opportunity for War Hawks to talk up their upcoming foray into Iran. No surprise Lieberman is there... he was perhaps the loudest cheerleader for the invasion of Iraq.

Lieberman carries with him two new marks upon his ‘shield’ ---- a yes vote for Condi the Liar... and a Yes vote for Gonzales the torturer. No surprise on either of these marks. Last May he all but defended the torture at Abu Ghraib http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/week_2004_05_02.php#002932

“Apparently comfortable with the moral cesspool into which he wandered during the Abu Ghraib hearings, Senator Joe Lieberman announced in a July 20 Washington Post op-ed that he planned to join with the least reputable figures in national-security circles to relaunch the Committee on the Present Danger (CPD), an organization not heard from since the last days of disco. A good rule of thumb for telling whether a foreign-policy group intends to offer a serious contribution to the public debate or is more interested in pulling the wool over people's eyes is whether or not its membership includes Laurie Mylroie. Naturally enough, she's a member, along with fellow travelers from the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) like James Woolsey and Danielle Pletka.”

http://www.prospect.org/web/page.ww?section=root&name=ViewWeb&articleId=8226

Sen. Lieberman presently serves as Co Chairman of the Committee on the Present Danger (CPD) along with Sen. Jon Kyl

http://www.fightingterror.org/members/index.cfm

Sen Lieberman is up for re-election in 2006. dKos has already begun looking for opposition. Hope Dr. Dean has lots of brooms... The DP house needs cleaning.

Posted by: Jo on February 12, 2005 03:23 PM

THEM BASTARDS ARE EVIL: Krugman writes,

"It may sound shrill to describe President Bush as someone who takes food from the mouths of babes and gives the proceeds to his millionaire friends. Yet his latest budget proposal is top-down class warfare in action. And it offers the Democrats an opportunity, if they're willing to take it.


First, the facts: the budget proposal really does take food from the mouths of babes. One of the proposed spending cuts would make it harder for working families with children to receive food stamps, terminating aid for about 300,000 people. Another would deny child care assistance to about 300,000 children, again in low-income working families.


And the budget really does shower largesse on millionaires even as it punishes the needy. For example, the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities informs us that even as the administration demands spending cuts, it will proceed with the phaseout of two little-known tax provisions - originally put in place under the first President George Bush - that limit deductions and exemptions for high-income households.


More than half of the benefits from this backdoor tax cut would go to people with incomes of more than a million dollars; 97 percent would go to people with incomes exceeding $200,000.


It so happens that the number of taxpayers with more than $1 million in annual income is about the same as the number of people who would have their food stamps cut off under the Bush proposal. But it costs a lot more to give a millionaire a break than to put food on a low-income family's table: eliminating limits on deductions and exemptions would give taxpayers with incomes over $1 million an average tax cut of more than $19,000.


It's like that all the way through. On one side, the budget calls for program cuts that are small change compared with the budget deficit, yet will harm hundreds of thousands of the most vulnerable Americans. On the other side, it calls for making tax cuts for the wealthy permanent, and for new tax breaks for the affluent in the form of tax-sheltered accounts and more liberal rules for deductions.


The question is whether the relentless mean-spiritedness of this budget finally awakens the public to the true cost of Mr. Bush's tax policy.  Until now, the administration has been able to get away with the pretense that it can offset the revenue loss from tax cuts with benign spending restraint. That's because until now, "restraint" was an abstract concept, not tied to specific actions, making it seem as if spending cuts would hurt only a few special interest groups.


But here we are with the first demonstration of restraint in action, and look what's on the chopping block, selected for big cuts: the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, health insurance for children and aid to law enforcement. (Yes, Mr. Bush proposes to cut farm subsidies, which are truly wasteful. Let's see how much political capital he spends on that proposal.)


Until now, the administration has also been able to pretend that the budget deficit isn't an important issue so the role of tax cuts in causing that deficit can be ignored. But Mr. Bush has at last conceded that the deficit is indeed a major problem.  Why shouldn't the affluent, who have done so well from Mr. Bush's policies, pay part of the price of dealing with that problem?


Here's a comparison: the Bush budget proposal would cut domestic discretionary spending, adjusted for inflation, by 16 percent over the next five years. That would mean savage cuts in education, health care, veterans' benefits and environmental protection. Yet these cuts would save only about $66 billion per year, about one-sixth of the budget deficit.


On the other side, a rollback of Mr. Bush's cuts in tax rates for high-income brackets, on capital gains and on dividend income would yield more than $120 billion per year in extra revenue - eliminating almost a third of the budget deficit - yet have hardly any effect on middle-income families. (Estimates from the Tax Policy Center of the Urban Institute and the Brookings Institution show that such a rollback would cost families with incomes between $25,000 and $80,000 an average of $156.)"
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/11/opinion/11krugman.html?pagewanted=print&position

Posted by: Pat C on February 12, 2005 03:32 PM

Jeanne, or anyone interested, here's an interview with Gordon Michael Scallion on the earthquake/ tsunami:http://www.atsnn.com/story/118119.html

Posted by: Peg on February 12, 2005 04:14 PM

Hi Morgana,

such an accurate description!

" as we watch Social Security, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Israel, Palestine, off shoring, using torture as the norm, loss of free choice over our bodies, loss of freedom of speech, corrupt press, the raping of our environments, deployment a helter skelter foreign policy based on Charles Manson, "

Thanks.

And thanks Pat, for Krugman's article above.

Is anybody listening to Krugman? reminds me of
the phrase "crying in the wilderness".

Shows just how much he hates the American people, and how he is continuing pappy's policies"

" will proceed with the PHASEOUT of two little-known tax provisions - originally put in place under the first President George Bush - that limit deductions and exemptions for high-income households."

Posted by: Pallas18 on February 12, 2005 04:24 PM

http://www.reachm.com/amstreet/

Second blog-entry down. Dean's in!! Hope it wasn't at VOC moon or whatever.

Yaaaaaaay, Ho Ho!

Gotta go spend $10.06.

Posted by: shylurker on February 12, 2005 04:50 PM

Shylurker, thanks for the heads-up... looks like the time was between 11:00 and 11:30... tMoon definitely not VOC, but about 5 degrees Aries...?

Morgana,
What say you? Any new info? Some more Morgana music? please...

I hear Streisand singing

Happy days are here again
The skies above are clear again
So, Let's sing a song of cheer again

Happy times
Happy nights
Happy days
Are here again!

THREE CHEERS FOR DR. DEAN!!!


Posted by: Jo on February 12, 2005 05:23 PM

Here's a link being used by all the blogs for DNC

http://actblue.com/list/dnc

We've Got Howard's Back
by The People
Contributions thus far: 64 donors, $4079.44

Let's give Howard Dean the ammunition he needs to successfully reform our party.

dKos reminds us:

Remember, the GOP will unload on Dean. Everytime you hear the "Dean Scream" without context, consider donating. When you hear some empty head talk about the party "moving left" with Dean, consider donating. When you hear about unnamed big dollar Democratic donors whining about pulling their money out of the party, consider donating.

Posted by: Jo on February 12, 2005 05:32 PM

Here's link to Dean's acceptance speech:

http://www.democrats.org/news//200502120001.html

Posted by: Jo on February 12, 2005 05:39 PM

While you're sending a couple of bucks to Dean,

think about sending $10 to the ACLU to encourage them --- ANY dissent in the press against the war and mini-me is being cut off - sharply.

CNN was bombarded by the crazies and caved in:

CNN News Exec Quits Following Controversy
Saturday, February 12, 2005 5:30 AM EST
The Associated Press
By DAVID BAUDER

Worried that CNN would be "unfairly tarnished" over remarks he made about journalists killed by the U.S. military in Iraq, one of CNN's most visible executives chose to quit.

With the resignation of chief news executive Eason Jordan, CNN hopes to end a distracting controversy that had threatened to rival the Internet campaign last fall against Dan Rather for a CBS story about President Bush's military service.

During a panel discussion at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland last month, Jordan said that he believed several journalists who were killed by coalition forces had been targeted.

Jordan quickly backed off his statements, both at the Jan. 27 panel and afterward. He said he meant to distinguish between journalists killed because they were in the wrong place when a bomb fell, for example, and those killed because they were shot at by American forces who mistook them for the enemy.

"I never meant to imply U.S. forces acted with ill intent when U.S. forces accidentally killed journalists, and I apologize to anyone who thought I said or believed otherwise," Jordan said in a memo to fellow staff members at CNN.

But the damage had been done, compounded by the fact that no transcript of his actual remarks has turned up.

A Web site, Easongate.com, was created and distributed a petition this week calling on CNN to find a transcript and fire Jordan if he said the military had intentionally killed journalists.

The Web site had been preparing Friday to post information to help its supporters contact CNN's advertisers. A message posted on the site after Jordan's resignation said its authors were pleased with the outcome but still want a videotape of the economic forum released.

"To every reader, commentator, e-mailer and blogger that committed to this cause, thank you," a message on the Web site read. "This is a victory for every soldier who has honorably served this nation. To you we devote this victory."

-snip-

"I have decided to resign in an effort to prevent CNN from being unfairly tarnished by the controversy over conflicting accounts of my recent remarks regarding the alarming number of journalists killed in Iraq," Jordan said.

He joined CNN in 1982 as an assistant assignment editor on the national news desk. He has won the Emmy, duPont and Peabody journalism awards.

"Eason's service to CNN and support of the people at every level of our organization is legend," said Jim Walton, chief of the CNN News Group. "He leaves us with our gratitude, respect and best wishes."

Posted by: Pallas18 on February 12, 2005 06:07 PM

I looked at my clock at the moment Dean was "elected" and it said 11:11 a.m., but I'm not positive how accurate it is (within a few moments). I thought his speech was wonderful.

Morgana, does this change much?

Posted by: Laurie on February 12, 2005 06:22 PM

Here' Boxer with another homerun... speaking in SF

http://boxer.senate.gov/news/record.cfm?id=232056

"...Because, his initiative is not about meeting the challenges of Social Security to keep it sound; it is not about bringing together Democrats and Republicans as Ronald Reagan did to ensure that full benefits will be there for all Americans. It is about one thing and one thing only: destroying Social Security.

How do I know that? Am I being partisan? Am I being unfair by stating in a very clear way that I believe the true goal here is to destroy Social Security? Not at all. I am simply telling the truth as told by this very White House."

Posted by: Jo on February 12, 2005 06:30 PM

Jo, Laurie, Morgana--everyone--this post about Dean's appointment was made to DU at 11:13 am. EST, I mean. So, Laurie's watch appears to be quite accurate. What does this do to the chart you shared with us, Morgana? Oh, boy, I'm so excited I may not go back under the bed for days and days.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1232429&mesg_id=1232429

Posted by: shylurker on February 12, 2005 06:31 PM

Laurie thanks! I don't see much shift so far as the transit chart for the DP. I'm still looking at the charts. I'm sure I'll have more to add later. Shylurker, yes it's time to come out and usher in Spring with Dr. Dean, time for us to all get busy.

Posted by: Morgana on February 12, 2005 06:39 PM

Aren't both the Dr. Dean and Sen. Boxer Scorpio's...hmm..add Hillary as another. Wonder what's up with that ? Yes Barbara Boxer has been rockin', not sure what's up with Pelosi she's usually the other bad girl. Hmm..wonder if Pelosi is a Scorpio as well. I"ll be back. Thanks for the Boxer speech!

Posted by: Morgana on February 12, 2005 06:48 PM

Today, at the time Dean was elected is an extremely complicated set up. You look at Dean's chart, the Dean Election Chart, the Democratic Party Chart, and most of all the US Chart for how all this will play out. All of these interactive pieces are loaded with yods, T-squares, oppositions and conj, and all of them indicate friction within the party and agitation within the country, personally, I think the Dems need to do a little "agitating.

I am only going to look at how this plays in the Country and later I will write about the complete interaction, let me say however, that there is ample astrological evidence of power struggles within the Dem party and the result will be a new road map for them to follow. Don't know if that will include an actual split or not but there will be winners and losers on the Party level.

As to the US and Dean Election (separate the person "Dean" from the person "Bush" and go chart to chart) What will this DNC Election mean for this country and how will they respond to the Dems in the next 2/4years.

The immediate aspect to hit my eyes is a T-Square between the Election Chart (Moon at 14 Aries) the US Sun (13 Cancer) and US Saturn (14 Libra) plus the progressed US Moon and Jupiter, both at 15 Cancer today. With Saturn involved in this T-Square, the new Dem Chair is going to have to overcome some fears operating in the United States today. The Solar Arc US Moon is exactly on the US Saturn, we the people have an un-named un-ease fear in this country and the new Chair, at least for this year, feeds those fears, only the people won't be able to say why or how, I think it will take a full year for those fears of the Dems to begin receding and it will be contentious, however I think the American people will love the fight because today's Moon conj. the US progressed Venus, some kind of strong underground progressive movement is already underway, out of sight of most people, but very strong.

Transiting Jupiter (although retrograde) is exactly on the progressed stationary degree of Mars, although Jupiter will not go direct in our lifetimes, progressed Mars will go retrograde in Aug 2006 and will not go direct in our lifetimes, so for several years today's Jupiter will conj. the progressed US Mars. Money will pour into the Dem coffers and will continue to do so for years to come with few dead spots, this conjunction falls into the US Mid-heaven promising progressive leadership in the future, but leadership in a greatly diminished country (Mars goes retrograde ending our desire and/or ability to rule the world)

The Dems Election Chart fits very nicely with the US Solar Chart,(indicating a connection to the present day "collective intelligence of the people" with SA Jupiter conj today's Mercury (lots of positive talk) and coming to a conj. in two years to today's Sun (that's a winning aspect for 2006)Today's Sun and Pluto sextile and Saturn is going to reform a yod in a few weeks, again the beginning of destiny for the Dems and stabilizing their power, but the mainstream media will fight it. However, all the Aquarius of today and the SA Aquarius of the US Chart falls into the US 3rd house of the media, I don't know if the media will be able to ignore the Dems.

The Moon of the US chart and the Democrats natal chart conjuncts Howard Dean's SA Jupiter, initially the people will look to him for leadership whether the old guard likes it or not, they would do well to jump on the bandwagon because old power structures are passing.

Howard Dean's SA Jupiter, the US Moon, the Dem party Moon and today's Election Chart for the DNC Descendant are all conjunct Dean's Chiron. Howard will wound and heal the Democratic Party all at the same time.

This is all for now folks, but the bottom line to all this is expect upheaval in the party, people looking to Dean for leadership, a not before accepted power of voice, for the DNC Chair. The pinnacle of conservative power has passed, expect them to continue trying and sniping with what would seem success but it isn't success, their power base as the planets take a turn, is weakened badly.

Posted by: Sally on February 12, 2005 06:49 PM

off topic -

as I search the world - came across this picture -

what a view!

http://www.homebaseabroad.com/homepage_images/04_photo_ca_di_pesa_dining.jpg

Posted by: Pallas18 on February 12, 2005 06:51 PM

Sally, thanks for that!! Vewwwy interrrestink.

Posted by: Laurie on February 12, 2005 07:13 PM

I strongly believe that Pelosi is an Aries. I don't have the birth info at hand, though.

The Posts, the articles, everyone's thoughts are all so electric! It's hard to keep up sometimes, but I'm happy I have this Forum to learn from and enjoy. Thanks everybody.

Posted by: Jonathan on February 12, 2005 07:21 PM

Sally says

"Money will pour into the Dem coffers and will continue to do so for years to come with few dead spots, this conjunction falls into the US Mid-heaven promising progressive leadership in the future, but leadership in a greatly diminished country (Mars goes retrograde ending our desire and/or ability to rule the world)"

Amen, Cap'n... the flow has started... traffic for donations at dKos momentarily put their server down... people can't wait to send their money to DEAN... and yes, a 'greatly diminished country' is in store...

"...Howard will wound and heal the Democratic Party all at the same time."

Yes, Cap'n Sally... the DP has to be 'wounded' to have transformation... the Doc will be the surgeon?

I have to say I was not a "Deaniac" during or before the primaries. But I seen in Dean an honesty that I fail to find in others on the scene today... an honesty, and the passion to speak up and confront the dishonesty. Isn't that what we have been asking for?

Thank you Cap'n Sally, and Morgana for your comments on Dean. I must say I have not felt this hopeful in months.

Posted by: Jo on February 12, 2005 07:30 PM

Ah Pallas,
Still dreaming of the French B& B?
My fantasies have turned to Vancouver Island, as that's where I have venus line & a mercury line; great place for an artist! The other place on earth I have these lines? Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Afghanistan!! Lucky Me!

Every spring gets a little rain!
Leaked documents seen by the Guardian show that Canada wants all governments to accept the testing and commercialisation of "terminator" crop varieties. These are genetically engineered to produce only infertile seeds which farmers cannot replant.
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/021005X.shtml
PQOP

Posted by: Pat QOP on February 12, 2005 07:34 PM

Pallas 18:

You read my mind/soul. That picture says it all for me. Every single person in the world deserves such joy - to sit down to a delicious meal of the earth's bounty, with good company, surrounded by nature, the elements, sunshine, fresh air, and a beautiful vista, filled with love, gratitude and happiness. An experience for all the senses. The meaning of life is in that photograph. When the world is at peace, that is what we will all be doing.

Thank you Morgana, for this very colorful article with your characteristically punchy language, and thanks to Sally, too, for your elucidations.

It won't be easy for Dean, it won't be easy for the Democrats, but at least now we have a Real LEADER, someone who has common sense, practical experience, and speaks our language. All the Republicans have is a lot of experimentation, gambling, and spin. Happy Days indeed.

Posted by: Sharon on February 12, 2005 07:44 PM

Oh, Captain Sally, thanks so much for looking at those charts for us. So very interesting and underscore what we've already seen (the struggle within the DP which has been going on for quite a while anyway, and boiling now at the surface and the money flow in the past three hours alone because of the good doctor). Oh boy!!

Posted by: shylurker on February 12, 2005 07:49 PM

Poignant article by Alex Cockburn below
http://www.counterpunch.org/cockburn02052005.html

Posted by: Raj on February 12, 2005 08:02 PM

Listen to AirAmerica(10pm PST)to Mike; he really
blasts and pummels shrub and this administration
calling them thugs and worse on various facts and
policies of this corrupt administration-it is so
soothing that at least AirAmerica gets to the bottom of REAL TRUTH unlike the regular cbs,nbc,
abc and don't even mention the other sly network-
that one is total crap.

Posted by: Raj on February 12, 2005 08:06 PM

Raj, thanks for the article on Churchill and it is poigant. The Gov. of Colorado Bill Owens said he was embarrassed and humiliated that we have someone like this in our state, this is the same Gov. who had nothing to say when James Dobson (also of Colorado) said Sponge Bob Square Pants was homosexual. One thing is for sure, Churchill has tenure and he has made it absolutely clear that he will sue if he's fired because he has done nothing to alter his tenure status.

Posted by: Sally on February 12, 2005 08:34 PM


This takes several minutes to download but it is so well worth the time. "The Battle for America" it will take your breath away.

http://www.thebattleforamerica.com/

Posted by: Sally on February 12, 2005 08:54 PM

Sally and everyone,

Another good one, as usual from Mark Fiore

http://www.markfiore.com/animation/accounting.html

Posted by: Raj on February 12, 2005 09:02 PM

Hi all,

I'm somewhat of a lurker here, and my friend Robert Wilkinson posted an election "prediction" article http://www.astroworld.us/archives/000441.html - here back in October (which retrospectively looks pretty darn spot-on).

Anyway, Robert and I have just launched the third iteration of our social-political site, Political Physics http://www.politicalphysics.com/ , this week and I just wanted to give it a shameless plug. The site tagline is, "A non-party-identified, open source community blog for progressive news and politics," which pretty much sums it up. Now that we're on the Drupal platform we have user diaries and all sorts of jazz. Please stop on by sometime, and feel free to chip in. :-)

Cheers!

Posted by: Caleb on February 12, 2005 09:14 PM

I like that Sally, "upheaval in the party". Already it looks like folks at DU have figured out that our politicians are not what they thought: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1589943

I am so afraid to hope that Dean can uproot all this stuff, but I gave him some money to try.

Posted by: Peg on February 12, 2005 09:15 PM

Caught Candy Crowley's piece on Howard Dean today, she leads with the SCREAM. I think I will SCREAM at CNN.

Posted by: Morgana on February 12, 2005 09:22 PM

Morgana,
I gave CNN a holler too... don't know if this was best email address... cnn@cnn.com

Anyone else have a better email address?

Posted by: Jo on February 12, 2005 10:06 PM

Morgana,

I can tell you're all better, cause YOU'RE a scream - a funny one.

Sharon - you should begin writing, your description above of my dream environment is absolutely beautiful..

Like a Monet or Cezanne isn't it?

Sally and all - remember Dean's chart showed winning and so did Edwards.
Edwards has also begun to make his moves, so keep an eye on him and don't count him out yet.

As for the rethuglicans, listening to C Span they have already begun to call in with vitriol thanking dems for electing Dean which "will finish off the liberal party"....Yah? well, we'll see about that.

But if we don't start e mailing Pelosi, Reid, and
Clinton to get off that middle lite republican and fight like hell....the freepers will be right.

And oh yeah...you can e mail Lieberman - "Shonder-
Shonder (means for shame) You have become the new
Zell Miller. Please leave the party and make room for a real Democrat."

You all have got me gettting politically agitated again. grrrr.

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Posted by: Pallas18 on February 12, 2005 10:13 PM

Acedemic Intrusion

http://www.aaup.org/

Posted by: Pat C on February 12, 2005 10:25 PM

I can attest to the undergroung progressive movement that is developing. It is growing, moving steadily and rythmically, and is imbued with a lot of intellect. The faith in our future is strong, and calculated moves are in the works. I think it is reflected in the Uranus/Neptune mutual reception. Some of the positives of Neptune, as ideas are pouring forth from people's imaginations.
The current pickle we are in seems to be the grain of sand in the oyster.

Posted by: jm on February 12, 2005 11:25 PM

You go Pallas!

Posted by: Jo on February 12, 2005 11:27 PM

Sally, The "battle for America" was fabulous - gave me the chills. And, Pallas, thank you for saying that. I would actually love to write more (and paint). Sometimes I'm such a dilletant (sp?). I need to self-actualize more. Maybe someone can give me some tips. My Pisces Mars has not helped. When I get going, I'm productive for a while but then fizzle :-)

Posted by: Sharon on February 12, 2005 11:28 PM

From Peg's ( I think) URL up above.. wish we would all put a couple of paragraphs of what these URL's are about.

Michael Gordon Scallion of the earth changes map

"Previously I also stated that three separate magnetic pole shifts will precede this event, each a few degrees" ( I think we just had one)

-snip-


gms: CNN was on in my studio when I overheard the announcement of the quake hitting the Indian Ocean region and that its magnitude was 9.0. My first reaction was a physical one. I felt like someone punched me in the stomach. The next moment I thought, “Oh, my God, it’s started!” Hours later CNN began showing the destruction from the tsunami.


Since 1992, I have stated that one of the final warning signs I have seen for massive Earth changes to occur in the future was a major quake in the Indian Ocean region near Colombo, followed by a devastating tsunami.

gms: Due to the magnitude of the recent Indian Ocean quake, I believe it is normal that seismic activity will continue for some time. I do not sense that the plate boundary along the Java Trench is about to collapse.


I do sense however, that all tectonic plates are under great stress and even larger quakes are in our near future. Watch Japan and the region.

ATSNN: In the past few weeks, there has been a significant swarm of rather large magnitude earthquakes off the Ecuadorian coast, as well as three volcanoes in the Guatemalan area that went active on the same day.


Certain geologists have reported they don't know what to make of this specific activity, and that it is "not normal". In addition, rumors abound of a possible 10+ magnitude quake coming in the Ecuadorian region. What are your thoughts on this activity, and on the possibility of an enormous earthquake in that area in the near future?

gms: As stated above, the planet is under great stress and as I have stated, quakes reaching 10, 12 or more, are in our future. Currently the South America and the Nazca Plates are preparing for shifts. This is the prime cause of volcanism in the region.

ATSNN: In the past 3 to 4 months, there have been increasing reports of marine life exhibiting behavior that could be interpreted as a reaction to changing magnetic lines (i.e. large numbers of beached whales and dolphins in Australia, increasing finds of dead right and pilot whales in the Atlantic along with 34 whales beached in North Carolina on the same day, 500+ giant squid beached on California's coast, etc.). Along with these marine life behavior abnormalities, there are also anecdotal stories of observations of changing migration lanes (bird species no longer passing through traditional migration lanes but now being seen to pass through in new regions). Do you believe the earth is undergoing a significant change in its magnetic lines?

gms: In my “Future Map of the World” I state that Earth will experience a geophysical pole shift by 2012 creating a new North Pole.

In this case Earth’s crust will move relative to Earth’s core. Previously I also stated that three separate magnetic pole shifts will precede this event, each a few degrees.


I believe the phenomena of beaching whales and giant squid are in some cases a result of magnetic abnormalities. However, having said that, I believe most are due either to some kind of magnetic wave technology used by the military and changing ocean currents resulting from increased ocean temperatures. The warmer water provides a breeding ground for diseases that affect ocean life. The increase temperatures are due to undersea volcanism and heat escaping from plate regions as a result of movement in Earth’s core. "

(On Edit - Do not move to any volcanic area, even extinct volcanic areas...)

more at

http://www.atsnn.com/story/118119.html


Posted by: Pallas18 on February 13, 2005 03:17 AM

Ps -

he also said this:

"gms: The Antarctic ice sheet will collapse in the near future. I see ocean levels rising steadily from 2005 on so that by 2012 many coastal regions, in the Atlantic for example, will be inundated by several miles. "

In Florida, there are going to be a lot of new
houseboats. (:

Posted by: Pallas18 on February 13, 2005 03:20 AM

Here is an excellent though disturbing article comparing ancient Rome with America:

"Most historians see a relationship, in the case of Rome, between its internal decay and its susceptibility to invasion. By the fourth century, if not much before, Rome had lost its central value, the legacy of Greek culture, and was effectively existing for the sake of military and administrative purposes.

As it overextended itself, creating a huge standing army and a bloated military budget, the middle class began to disappear, and there was a reciprocal, reinforcing interaction between internal decadence and instability on the one hand, and external vulnerability on the other. I n the case of the United States, the nation no longer stands for the enlightenment tradition, but rather for military-political hegemony and the total commodification of life."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/saturday_review/story/0,3605,564084,00.html

Posted by: Nancy on February 13, 2005 03:43 AM

Eeeewwwwww.

This is Scallion's website:
http://www.matrixinstitute.com/namer1.html


this is his map of the U.S. after "earth changes"

http://www.matrixinstitute.com/images/medmaps/namer3.jpg

Florida .......................isn't.

"Canada

Hudson Bay and the Foxe Basin will expand to form a large inland sea. Parts of the Northwest Territory will be pushed in as much as two hundred miles. Areas in Quebec, Ontario, Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and portions of Alberta will become the survival center of Canada during the early changes. Migrations will arrive from British Columbia and Alaska.

United States

Major global Earth changes will begin in the United States as the North American Plate buckles, creating the Isles of California — 150 islands in all. Eventually, through tectonic plate buckling and fractures followed by inundations, the West Coast will recede eastward to Nebraska, Wyoming and Colorado.

The Great Lakes and the St. Lawrence Seaway will join and flow through the Mississippi River to the Gulf of Mexico.

Coastal areas from Maine to Florida will be inundated and pushed in for many miles.

Mexico

Coastal areas of Mexico will be inundated far inland. The California Baja will become a series of islands. Most of the Yucatan Peninsula will be lost to the sea. Volcanic and seismic activity will continue into the twenty-first century.

Central America and the Caribbean

Central America will be inundated and reduced to a series of islands. Elevations above 500 meters will be considered safe. A new waterway will form from the Bay of Honduras to Salinas, Ecuador. The Panama Canal will become impassable.

http://www.matrixinstitute.com/namer1.html

here's Scallion's maps at his url of what North America is going to look like...if you go to his home page, he has map of all the continents new
"shape"

Posted by: Pallas18 on February 13, 2005 03:48 AM

I'm sorry Pallas, I have a terrible problem articulating, because I always think everyone is on the same page as myself. I talk in abbreviations, read backwards, all kinds of weird things. I truly hate using words, would much prefer mind reading. I should've posted more of his article, but I figured if you knew anything of GMS, you'd read it. It's very cool, I thought. We had a quake here the other day-4.2/ New Madras fault.

Posted by: Peg on February 13, 2005 04:01 AM

BTW, Scallion's maps are VERY close to Cayce's, if anyone didn't know that.

Posted by: Peg on February 13, 2005 04:03 AM

I googled up Scallion after reading the article posted here and at least one article said he wasn't so accurate. I think they were referring to the early 90s, though. Just thought I'd mention that.

Posted by: Sharon on February 13, 2005 04:19 AM

Hi Peg,

no problem...I have to admit that if I don't see a couple of paragraphs I tend to just keep goin'.

No, I didn;t know Scallion's maps paralleled Cayce's.

Eeeewwwwwww.

I've been at his site reading and studying maps too. Funny he doesn't mention one thing about China and as far as I can see it's not shown on his maps.

Very little land mass left anywhere..huh?

Did you see this?

" On Jan. 12, three volcanoes erupted simultaneously in Guatemala: Pacaya, Santa Maria, and Fuego. All three have been emitting ash and lava, forcing residents to be evacuated.

(how come this isn't in the news?? have not heard one word about it!)

"While this activity is significant, the next major event that I foresee will occur in Mexico followed by activity in the West Coast of America. "

Posted by: Pallas18 on February 13, 2005 04:38 AM

The Next War ~

"U.S.USES DRONES TO PROBE IRAN FOR NUKES ~
SECRET UNMANNED SURVEILLANCE FLIGHTS BEING LAUNCHED FROM IRAQ

The Bush administration has been flying surveillance drones over Iran for nearly a year to seek evidence of nuclear weapons programs and detect weaknesses in air defenses, according to three U.S. officials with detailed knowledge of the secret effort.The aerial espionage is standard in military preparations for an eventual air attack and is also employed as a tool for intimidation.

CONTINUED~

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6960480/

Posted by: Starrynights/SN on February 13, 2005 07:40 AM

The PNAC plan in a nutshell.

The Project For The New American Century(PNAC) is a plan for achieving global domination through unilateral military force and perpetual war. The people who created this plan are in power now. The technique used is shock and awe, creating chaos and terrifying the populace into submission. The plan includes the crippling and subjugation of the American people by demolishing the middle class and thrusting them into poverty. The deficits are purposeful, so they can destroy all social programs. This will kill off the sick and elderly, and by ending abortion the younger population will grow. They will be in poverty, however, so they will have to go into the military to fight their wars.(maybe some variation in the plan here).
The plan was to destroy Iraq, create a tax free, unregulated corporate state, and position themselves strategically to take over the Middle East and Asia, and do the same. Other areas are targeted now, too.
They stated that they needed another Pearl Harbor to get started so they most likely orchestrated 911. The War on Terror is a hoax created by them to wage this perpetual war. They are purposefully inciting rage so they can continue the wars.
This is their grand experiment, and they won't stop now. They are moving quickly.

Unfortunately for them, controlling the entire planet is logistically impossible. If you look around, the world is dominated by diversity... a force much more powerful than they are. No one has been able to rule the whole human race yet. I doubt that they are capable. I assume they will go the way of all others who have tried.

Here is a site with more info:


http://www.pnac.info/

Posted by: jm on February 13, 2005 09:25 AM

Here's a wonderful antiwar video..Daniel Ellsberg and Howard Zinn.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article8046.htm

Posted by: jm on February 13, 2005 11:04 AM

What the hey!???

Was there an earthquake on this site? We moved from Yea! Howard Dean is DNC Chair... to Florida is dropping off the map...

Lots of GOOD news, really good news out there... some of it linked upthread... for starters, Sally has ret'd! Yea! Morgana has posted an article again!!! Yea! Pat C. is posting again! Jonathan is feeling electrified and happy! Shylurker is out from under the bed --- for a while, she says! Yea! Pallas has returned! Sharon is doing more creative stuff! JM compares 'the pickle we are in to the grain of sand in an oyster'... how hopeful is that? this h#$% is evolving into a 'pearl'...

I read a diary on dKos last night... and people are still moving into new homes, watching the sunlight play on their four year old; they're listening to Garrison; snuggling with their little ones watching kiddie videos; reading with their cats; having a bottle of wine with friends, hoping to find someone to share their lives with... and they're reading good books and writing online... the world is still turning...

Chin up... we have battles to win... work to do, the *'s agenda must not prevail, we must fight for SS, we must fight for ourselves and our children... we must work with Dr. Dean to 'transform' (as Joanna says) not simply reform the DP... major surgery coming up, and the money is pouring in... the birds are singing in my woods, the coffee is brewing... my Dad is becoming a cabaret star --- took his keyboard down to the recreation room where he lives and entertained a dozen or so seniors last night... transformation on a big scale... imho. Still problems --- with illness in the family, some struggling with 2 jobs to make ends meet... but, we're moving... one day at the time. Namaste

Posted by: Jo on February 13, 2005 01:26 PM

Remember that election they held in Iraq about two weeks ago? They still have not announced the candidates... and the BBC says the numbers they are releasing are not 'official' yet... won't be for 3-4 days.

Iraq is about the size of California, right? What's the deal with the count? Canada uses paper ballots, each precinct counts the votes --- takes about four hours, and presto, results.

Guess it's hard when the tally doesn't give US what it wants, huh? Well, that never stopped them before... take Nov. 2nd for instance. And they still don't know WHO represents the entities voted for... that is, they don't KNOW who was elected, or they're not saying. But that embezzler, spy, traitor --- you remember, the one Rummy et al flew into Iraq right after the invasion --- Chalabi, the one whose files they picked up, the one who spied for Iran... well, the NYT has affirmed what many of the blogs have been saying, and Judy Miller announced on TV... he has a SEAT in the ruling parliament... go figure!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4261035.stm

here's a little something to offset any bad news you might run across this a.m.

http://www.uclick.com/client/nyt/db/

http://www.uclick.com/client/nyt/tt/

Posted by: Jo on February 13, 2005 02:06 PM

Remember Condi's testimony before 9/11 Commission? Recall certain papers/information could not be released to the public (*'s coronation was coming up, remember?)

Well, Condi the liar is so BUSTED... (but, they have their god/king, don't they)

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/12/politics/12clarke.html?pagewanted=2&ei=5070&en=7c25355311ae4b51&ex=1108875600

Posted by: Jo on February 13, 2005 02:20 PM

Steve Bell on Chuck & Camilla

http://www.guardian.co.uk/cartoons/stevebell/archive/0,14955,1284265,00.html

Posted by: Jo on February 13, 2005 03:36 PM

Jo you are so right, there are things to celebrate and I did notice how we went from the happiness of Howard Dean winning the DNC Chair to gloom, doom and death again. I thought how determined we are to follow "if the government doesn't get us the earth changes will." Maybe it will be just old age that gets us. As for me, I haven't completely finished savoring the Howard Dean win, or unraveling all the charts and information surrounding the Dean win and how that is going to change the energy. I hope people out there spends some time looking at them (the charts) and addressing the energy field now around the DNC, and Democrats with Dean at the helm.

Posted by: Sally on February 13, 2005 03:56 PM


Can Bush do anything to change your opinion of
him

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/02/13/ING90B8V861.DTL&type=printable

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Posted by: wv on February 13, 2005 04:11 PM


This should be more than enough to support an
impeachment....

http://zmagsite.zmag.org/Images/daviespr0205.html

Posted by: wv on February 13, 2005 04:28 PM


From Mandville this morning...

NinjaPenguin submitted: " Johannesburg,
South Africa
12-02-2005

A group of psychics led by colourful 'SilverJade', based in Johannesburg South Africa, have predicted that a series of earthquakes and other natural disasters will strike the western coast of the United States on or around the 23rd of February 2005.

As at the 11th of February 2005, they have successfully predicted a significant event, a 5.5 magnitude earthquake in south eastern Alaska, as being a first step in a series of smaller events leading up to the big bang. The next step of the prediction is set to occur at some time on or around the 13th and 15th of the month.

The prediction is based on a dream SilverJade experienced on the night of the 10th of January 2005. Many hours of "gut feel" and research by her students have culminated in a website, which was launched to provide information relating to the predicted disaster. This website is updated daily with new information as and when it becomes available, and can be found by pointing your internet browser to:

In addition to the earthquakes, It is believed that Mount St. Helen will erupt as well, covering parts of Washington State with ash and volcanic debris.

The sole intended purpose of this website is to warn people of California and surrounding states to remain extremely vigilant over the next two weeks. It is vital that this message is spread!

This disaster will affect all of us as citizens of Mother Earth... BE ALERT and BE PREPARED!
Editor: Sometimes psychics are very predictable. Sometimes they're not. Sometimes they take current information, and use it to guess at coming events. We've already covered the fact that Mount Saint Helen has become much more active recently, so take it as analysis of physical evidence, or psychic insight, there's a good risk that Mount Saint Helen could pop anytime soon."

Posted by: wv on February 13, 2005 04:41 PM


If you want to keep up with Earthquakes....

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.html

Posted by: wv on February 13, 2005 04:44 PM

Jo and Sally, I posted the original comment about earthquake information mostly for Jeanne. She is very knowledgeable and interested in the subject, and as we had somewhat of a lengthy discussion a couple of threads ago, I thought it would be interesting to her. I didn't want to post it [back there] because most of us? don't go back to previous threads very often. Sorry if this upset you. As for it causing cascading doom and gloom, it doesn't to me? I TRY to just think everything is just..........interesting. Sometimes all the death and suffering gets to me, and it is nice to just be happy for awhile though, so I say again, I'm sorry. And my happy news for the day is: my son was accepted into the U of I, which makes me very happy because my daughter is a sophomore there, and it was his dream and she wanted it for him too. YAY!!!!!!!

Posted by: Peg on February 13, 2005 05:53 PM

Congratulations to your son, Peg. How exciting for the whole family this must be! :-)

Posted by: Jonathan on February 13, 2005 06:11 PM

Peg,
You don't have to say "sorry" --- news is news... most of it not good, right? I have just waited for some long [haven't we all :-)!] for something good, and here it came with Dean (following the actions of Boxer and others) and I so want to savor the moment!!!

Don't want to sound like a Deaniac (although that can't be too bad, hun!) or a pollyanna, but golly it's nice to have these rays of sunshine during all the darkness.

Posted by: Jo on February 13, 2005 06:22 PM

Jo my dear, I know Pollyanna, and you're no Pollyanna. (a joke). And yes, we're very happy right now with this news, not quite sure how his dad's gonna feel about it when he gets his bill, ha-ha, but that's his wife's problem, ha-ha again. Seriously, I won't thread highjack again on Dr. Dean, and I will remain hopefully optimistic for awhile too. Maybe the energy WILL catch on, as Sally said. Gosh knows it's better than being enraged.

Posted by: Peg on February 13, 2005 06:43 PM

Again.....Clark warned Rice on Al Qaeda

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/021305Y.shtml

Posted by: Pat C on February 13, 2005 06:58 PM

I am wondering if Dean will tough this.

http://tinyurl.com/5ecvf

The case for MIHOP

George W. Bush constantly reminds the nation about the threat of terrorism that began with 911 but he leaves out a few important details that you should know.........

In June 1997, the Project for a New American Century (PNAC) was born. Populated by influential Movers of industry and Shakers of public opinion, the PNAC is an organization united in the vision for a global U.S. empire - "Pax Americana" - through coercion and military domination. Their philosophy can be simply summarized:

• There are countries to plunder and fortunes to be made. You have it, we want it. Do as we say or suffer the consequences.

• The U.S. already has a powerful military but we plan to nurture and grow it until it's massive and we are indominable. Resistance is futile. We are.......


Dick Cheney, Jeb Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Steve Forbes, William J. Bennett, Frank Gaffney, and I. Lewis ("Scooter") Libby, signator's - among others - of the PNAC's "Statement of Principles".

"We need to...challenge regimes hostile to our interests and values."

"We need to increase defense spending significantly if we are to carry out our global responsibilities today and modernize our armed forces for the future."

"It is important to shape circumstances before crises emerge."

Much more....

Posted by: Pat C on February 13, 2005 07:08 PM

Ed Schultz - Centrist Democratc Conservative talk show host who is gaining popularity in Red States!

Straight Out of Fargo, Red State radio talker tries to center the Dems.

Feb. 21 issue - Ed Schultz comes from Bush country and looks like it. At 6 feet 2 and 250 pounds, his idea of the good life is eating wings, fishing for walleye and watching football on TV. He passionately defends his right to own a gun, eat a steak and drive a Suburban. He loves his nation, his wife and his son, who plays golf for Texas Christian. He's the kind of guy the president might grab in a rope line, give a fake jab to the gut and call by his nickname, "Big Eddie," just like a friend.

But Schultz doesn't want to be George W. Bush's buddy. For three hours every day he rails against Bush on his nationally syndicated radio show from Fargo, N.D., calling the administration "government by the rich, for the rich" and Bush's policies an "axis of bankruptcy." The White House is listening. When Bush came to Fargo this month, Schultz's producer was barred from attending the event (the White House blamed local officials). "Is this what the president thinks of us folks in the heartland?" Schultz asked his listeners. "He's afraid!"

To hear some Democrats tell it, the GOP should be afraid. Schultz is coming after them and doing it on their own turf, smack dead in the middle of Red State America. Al Franken and Air America shattered the myth that liberals won't listen to talk radio. But Schultz isn't interested in just preaching to the converted. He wants to do something even more ambitious: save souls behind conservative lines. So far, he's had tremendous success. He's been sitting behind a mike in Fargo for 20 years, but during the past 12 months he's gone national in a big way. Schultz has the fastest growing radio show since Rush Limbaugh's—81 markets and counting. He can be heard inside Republican fortresses like Waco, Texas, and Phoenix, Ariz. His syndicator, Jones Radio Networks, says he'll be on the air in 150 to 200 markets by the end of this year. (Jones also carries "NEWSWEEK On Air.").....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6959815/site/newsweek /


Posted by: Sharon on February 13, 2005 07:54 PM

Sally says upthread with regard to Dean:

"Today's Sun and Pluto sextile and Saturn is going to reform a yod in a few weeks, again the beginning of destiny for the Dems and stabilizing their power, but the mainstream media will fight it. However, all the Aquarius of today and the SA Aquarius of the US Chart falls into the US 3rd house of the media, I don't know if the media will be able to ignore the Dems."

Maybe Cap'n Sally, the Dems will facilitate this evolution of the media to the blogsphere? After all, the Blogs are where it's at, so to speak, right. Will the Blogs be to the present media what television was to radio? If so, most of the Blogs are Dems... at least the really good ones. Because as a group we are thinkers and ponders and humanistic and sensitive (we rock, don't we!). Whereas, the other side utilizes hate and division and lies to promote...? Power?

Well, I'm looking forward to this forthcoming "Yod" --- they're powerful aspects imo. While mainstream is fighting the stabilization of Dem power, they might just watch their back, as the Blogs begin to drain their influence. Picture it, sort of like the wicked witch of the West... "I'm melting, I'm melting"...

Goodness, I just love days like today... all these visions of grandeur... Come onnnnn Dean - Power to the People...

Is that the kind of energy field you see around the Dems Cap'n Sally, with Doc Dean at the helm?

Sharon, what are you waiting for... there's a pic worth painting... the colors of people power...

Posted by: Jo on February 13, 2005 07:56 PM

"Well, I'm looking forward to this forthcoming "Yod" --- they're powerful aspects imo. While mainstream is fighting the stabilization of Dem power, they might just watch their back, as the Blogs begin to drain their influence. Picture it, sort of like the wicked witch of the West... "I'm melting, I'm melting"..."


Heh heh. Can it happen soon enough for peace on earth?

Posted by: Pat C on February 13, 2005 08:26 PM

Jo,

You are an inspiration and a half! Just what I need to hear. I may not begin painting right away (still undergoing organization & renovation), but Jupiter will be in my 5th house a few months down the road when it reaches 20 Libra and will stay through 3 Sag and. I will fully take advantage of that transit to rev up & express myself. But I now consider you one of my muses & I know where to turn to when I need a little push. Actually, we all are a great positive force in each other's lives and I consider all of you very aMUSing.

The Dean thing really brings tears to my eyes & joy to my heart - I am so hopeful that something like this could happen. The pendulum IS swinging and remember what was said about the Boomers & their Kids, not to mention Gen X & Y & the seniors. We are stronger than we know and we are gaining power by the moment. Think of "Lord of the Rings," where there were terrible trials but goodness overcame evil.

Wishing all of you healthy & joyful Hearts this Feb. 14th. Do something good for your heart & circulation, like walking and exercise, as well expressing love or doing something nice for someone (yourself counts):-)

Congrats, Peg, on your son getting into U of I.

Sharon

Posted by: Sharon on February 13, 2005 08:56 PM

Sharon, Jeanne and anyone interested. Kryon is better at predicting and answering questions about the Earth. On his website are questions and answers like the following:
QUESTION: Dear Kryon, will there be a shift of the earth on its axis? I was hoping we had alleviated the need for this type of drastic shift. Now I’m not so sure.

ANSWER: Be informed, just as we indicated in 1989, there will be no earth axis shift. This wouldn’t simply be a drastic event, it would terminate most of Humanity. This is not an event that would enhance your lives or give you a place to create a peaceful planet!

There is no alignment with the past, either, that is potentially going to turn the planet over.
Instead, you are headed for an eventual magnetic neutral point, and a potential north-south polarity swap. Although this will be dramatic for life on the planet, it isn’t a termination event. It’s also not something that is in your potential lifetime, but you are closer to it than you think.

Biology navigates for survival, and it depends on magnetics for this. Mammals on land and in the ocean, birds, amphibians, and even insects all depend on earth magnetics for their direction sensing abilities. So visualize these shifts as being slow, and the generations of animals on earth will adjust just as they have before.
— Kryon

Here's another one that's been asked here:
QUESTION: Kryon states that the prophecies of war have been averted. But why is it that current events are presently being correlated to bible prophecy as we speak? (leading up to the anti-christ and world war 3 ect) Is bible prophecy something that can be changed by the will of man?

ANSWER: We stated that Armeggedon was averted, and it was. The main prophesies given in your scripture paint a picture which is now impossible to fulfill, both in the timeline given and with the players that were indicated. Those who tell you that there is still correlation wish you to continue to react and remain in fear. The fall of the Soviet Union in the late 80's, and the positioning of China both have
voided the main scenario. The clock also ran-out long ago for the prophesies to happen when they
were foretold.

There will always be those who will try to correlate the metaphors of scripture to their own needs. You have the option to tremble in fear yet again for whatever duration you wish, or move forward in action to create a peaceful earth. Those who shut their doors and await an awful end will someday emerge and realize that they wasted years in worry when they could have been joyful and productive.

Visualize solutions. Visualize the planet moving into wisdom. There is so much here to do!

Posted by: Jill G on February 13, 2005 09:04 PM

Ed Schultz used to be a Republican.

Posted by: jm on February 13, 2005 09:46 PM

PatC, we do need to "hunker down" so to speak on this yod. Saturn is long term and that indicates that the Dems cannot turn this around overnight, we didn't get to this place overnight and we won't get out of it overnight, but we can watch and be part of the shift and enjoy that.

The most important aspects in any chart are the closest aspects and in the DNC Chair Election Chart that would be the Sun in Aqu, and Pluto in Sag. sextiling each other within two minutes. That is an opportunity available to garner power, particularly since that Aquarian Sun conjuncts Pluto in the Democratic Party Chart. With Howard Dean's Sun in a square to Election Chart Sun, and square to Dem Party Pluto, he is in a perfect position to kick some butt. Dean also is experiencing a TPluto conj. his natal Mars in Sag, (also in a sextile to the Election Sun)

Pluto will retrograde at 24 Sag the end of March and then go direct at 22 Sag the first of Sept. The fall months will be strong months for the Democrats and Dean. It's important to note that Dean got in because of the voice of the people on the internet. It's almost as if politicians are dimly awakening to the fact that the people are out here with opinions that might be different from theirs and the leadership of the Dems were afraid to go against this sudden power out here, not only our verbal power but our financial power when consolidated. It's amazing what 5 bucks can do when multiplied by millions.

As Howard Dean begins energizing the rural areas (and he knows how to do that coming from Vermont) and show the ordinary small town person and the "newly" unhappy farmer what their voice can actually do, the Republicans will then begin to see that their entire base isn't made up of "Bush focus groups." Dean has the opportunity to change the way politics are done in this country and taking political action to a new level of response. If he can just get "Kansas" to see "what's the matter" with them, that alone will shift the dialogue. The Dems have some brilliant down to earth minds in their party, Edwards, Frank (What's the Matter with Kansas) Clark, (both of them) Reid, Allen, Kennedy, even Kerry and the list goes on, if they get behind Dean to help him they will do this.

I was one of the first people ever to send Dean some money and I received a honest to god handwritten note back, I'm saving it because Howard Dean not Karl Rove could be the man who goes down in history as the most important figure in the beginning of this century.

Posted by: Sally on February 13, 2005 10:36 PM

For everyone who hasn't seen this, scroll down past the young fool in the elephant hat and look at the young Dean at the bottom of the page.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3101427

Posted by: Sally on February 13, 2005 10:41 PM

I'm afraid the discussion of earth changes and doom and gloom is my fault and I apologize to all .

Yes - it is doom and gloom, and I'm sorry about that - but of course I find it interesting because of my search for a relocation area right out of a Monet painting. :)

On the other hand, if you knew this was your last year on earth -(I'm not saying that;s the case) what would you be doing?

Worrying about that assache in Washington DC (which only caused me to be enraged at the blatant thievery and deceptions), or worry about the success of Howard Dean over the next four years or attending to everything you ever wanted to do and accomplish in your lifetime that you haven't done yet and packing it into the next year?

That's the way I feel about the good news of Howard's ascent. Not that I'm not thrilled for him but "Too little, too late, and too much has passed."

Only one thing is going to effect a vast change in the current political atmosphere and it isn't Howard.

So I'm not going to worry about that anymore. After the changeover and fixing of the election machines and votes AGAIN that I was witness to - well you all know my disgust and disappointment. I wash my hands of it.

I'm going to concentrate more on the Mundane Astrology which includes not only countries and personas but earthquakes, volcanoes, and earth changes. I'll look at astromapping of the Eclipses. I'm going to try to do more with
economic astrology, which has not been a forte'.

What am I going to do? I'm going to take the trip to London and Paris I've always wanted to make.

I'm going to make sure I have liquid assetts and emergency kits - I'm going to order one of those inflatable rubber boats and keep it in the attic.
and then - I'm going to tend my garden, plant my rose bushes, and enjoy their beauty and fragrance.

And this report on the "Global Consciousness Black Box" (really worth the read) affirms for me that that's the thing to do:

Professor Chris French, a psychologist and noted sceptic at Goldsmiths College in London, says: 'The Global Consciousness Project has generated some very intriguing results that cannot be readily dismissed. ' Strange as it may seem, though, there's nothing in the laws of physics that precludes the possibility of foreseeing the future.

It is possible - in theory - that time may not just move forwards but backwards, too. And if time ebbs and flows like the tides in the sea, it might just be possible to foretell major world events. We would, in effect, be 'remembering' things that had taken place in our future.

'There's plenty of evidence that time may run backwards,' says Prof Bierman at the University of Amsterdam.

'And if it's possible for it to happen in physics, then it can happen in our minds, too.' In other words, Prof Bierman believes that we are all capable of looking into the future, if only we could tap into the hidden power of our minds. And there is a tantalising body of evidence to support this theory.

'I didn't believe it either,' says Prof Bierman. 'So I also repeated the experiment myself and got the same results. I was shocked. After this I started to think more deeply about the nature of time.' To make matters even more intriguing, Prof Bierman says that other mainstream labs have now produced similar results but are yet to go public.

'They don't want to be ridiculed so they won't release their findings,' he says. 'So I'm trying to persuade all of them to release their results at the same time. That would at least spread the ridicule a little more thinly!' If Prof Bierman is right, though, then the experiments are no laughing matter.

They might help provide a solid scientific grounding for such strange phenomena as 'deja vu', intuition and a host of other curiosities that we have all experienced from time to time.

They may also open up a far more interesting possibility - that one day we might be able to enhance psychic powers using machines that can 'tune in' to our subconscious mind, machines like the little black box in Edinburgh.

But for Dr Nelson, talk of such psychic machines - with the potential to detect global catastrophes or terrorist outrages - is of far less importance than the implications of his work in terms of the human race.

For what his experiments appear to demonstrate is that while we may all operate as individuals, we also appear to share something far, far greater - a global consciousness. Some might call it the mind of God.

We may be connected together far more intimately than we realise.'

-----

On the Net:

Global Consciousness Project

Princeton University

Source: Daily Mail; London (UK)


Posted by: Pallas18 on February 13, 2005 10:54 PM

The Psychic Black Box of Edinburgh taps into the Global Consciousness ( and scares the hell out of the scientists running it)


http://www.rednova.com/news/display/?id=126649

Posted by: Pallas18 on February 13, 2005 10:57 PM

Wow Sally that's takes my brain too many directions at once...a young Dr. Dean and whatever you said above.

Posted by: Morgana on February 13, 2005 11:02 PM

Quantum mechanics is coming around to the view that we can not only peer into the future, but that we can shape it consciously.

Posted by: jm on February 13, 2005 11:06 PM

And modern physicists' string theory has an explanation for why predictions are not always correct. They say that we live in many dimensions(some say 11), and an event may occur in one, be seen in advance, but by the 'time' we get there we are in another dimension, where the event will not occur.

Posted by: jm on February 13, 2005 11:18 PM

What the scientists are realizing is that we can not only peer into the future, but into the past, (as astrologers and psychics have known for millenia)

But more interesting is the fact that the black box machine registered Diana's death and the tsunami/earthquake before it happened. Apparently long before it happened.

That the box reacted to Diana's death and acted up BEFORE the tsunami is truly beyond words.

It would seem the earth itself then is a living part of the global consciousness.

And the animals and their emotions are part of the global consciousness....surely the animals were aware of the earthquake and tsunami before it happened...the beaching whales over many parts of the world and other mammals and animals-

Then it does raise the question of whether the earth itself was "shrieking" emotionally/psychicly before the tsunami and earthquake happened, and it registered on the black box machine.

Yes, JM, the article talks about the ability/experiments they did with people "thinking" which changed the responses of the black box machine.... illustrating that
"global consciousness" can be shaped by our minds.

Then you have to think that for 2000 years the faithful have been putting into global consciousness "Armageddon" - and the media has been putting into global consciousness the dimwit's warmongering, and the air waves are filled with the evangelists "end times scenarios".

Two thousand years is a long time to have shaped
the response of global consciousness.

The other side of that is the wonderful millions of millions of people who got out into the streets all over the world before the moron attacked Iraq - to protest and to say no. NO. NO War.

But could those millions and millions counteract
2000 years drummed into consciousness?




Posted by: Pallas18 on February 13, 2005 11:27 PM

The urge towards equilibriun counteracts.

The quantum theory applied to the 2000 years could work something like this:

The current leadership has been of an ilk that has been around worldwide for a very long time. Drummed in for sure, and some call it primitive, lizard brain, etc. Instead of battling this directly, we can use it as a learning tool and simply shift into another dimension, where these creatures would be left behind. They would not exist in the new dimension,and ideally we would not repeat the behavior as it would fail to apply. Armegeddon and those kinds of things would, of course, not exist.

It's possible that trying to fight too hard could be like chopping off the limb of the Hydra in mythology... she just grows another one. But then, so does the starfish.

At any rate, we have to study this carefully, and not be too hasty. We all want a permanent change.

Posted by: jm on February 13, 2005 11:46 PM

Such wonderful posts here!

Sally, very interesting. I will stay active.

Posted by: Pat C on February 14, 2005 12:10 AM

One thing before I go and give my heart a workout as suggested.

The last 2000 years have been filled with so-called great leaders, maybe beginning with Jesus in modern Western civilization. They have led us to this, which doesn't look good right now. I believe that one of the hardest lessons we are learning now is to withdraw a bit from hero worship and look to ourselves. I've noticed for the first time, this new revolution growing is without specific men or women in charge. No Gandhi, no Martin Luther King, etc.
We have the Internet for some real reason where the collective mind is running loose and free, where we are, in true democratic fashion, tossing the ball of leadership all around.
I am finding a newfound respect for people and their intelligence.

Posted by: jm on February 14, 2005 12:12 AM

Oh my gosh Sally, young Dr. Dean is HOT! (Congrats to the Mrs., who is quite a wonderful person in her own right)
Heck Pallas, that's all stuff I learned in metaphysics. You're a metaphysician aren't you?

I don't know if you guys have heard of Tim Stephens, but he's pretty good. Here's what his latest says & I thought you'd enjoy it?

Being a grumpy old man in my fifties, in this column I tend to focus on such things as the Iraq war, Israel, violence in Iran, corporate corruption, etc. But two decades ago I wrote that we had entered a golden age, and I still believe that. Present perturbations are miniscule on a historical scale: our present worldwide civilization is one of peace and goodwill, healing and regeneration, and it will remain so for two centuries.

How can I say that? Because a little known and virtually never studied planetary incident occurred in November 1983. This phenomenon, Pluto's return to Scorpio, occurs every 247 to 250 years, and accurately foreshadows the major movements of history for the ensuing two and a half centuries.

The 1983 Pluto "return" chart showed many things about the years 1984 to 2232 A.D. Many of those trends have already sounded their first note. I wrote back then that the world would see a grave new sexual disease, that men and women would "become interchangeable," that the world wars would end and be replaced by a form of police state, etc. We've already seen AIDS, a rise in female soldiers, rapists, husband-batterers, lawyers and doctors. We've watched the U.S. become the policeman of the world (Iraq, Afghanistan) and we've seen a form of police state slowly infect continental America.

Here are some other things the 1983 Pluto return chart shows (with apologies to long-time readers who've heard this before):

It shows that those who communicate in short bits will be the guides for mankind; and that the long-winded, lawyers, professors, big business, book writers, etc., will be corrupted, or at least frustrated. It shows the cataclysmic, erratic violence of the preceding (1736-1983) era, not only the world wars, the violence endemic to society, will be supplanted by a more "controlling" society. It shows corporate crime will expand massively.

It shows men will become more psychic. The sexes will merge. (We've already seen male fish in the great lakes turn female in reaction to the drugs from human waste.) It shows a new happiness amongst lovers, new patterns of loyalty and camaraderie - and group fellowship - that replace the "private passion" approach of past centuries. It shows a two-century explosion in medical and ultra-tech development.

This era (1983-2232) will be the last to support religion, language, property ownership and linear thought. It forms a "gateway" to a new chain of eras that will feature impressionism, color, perception, spirituality, vision, belief, and entropic thought.

Posted by: Peg on February 14, 2005 12:34 AM

jm, I missed your post before. It's very good, and I just wanted to say how much I agree with you. Hero worship is unhealthy. So many people were heralding Obama as the savior of the Dems, now it's Howard Dean? The point is not to revere an individual, it is to behold the ideal. The Christ consciousness is within each one of us, and when we learn the effectiveness of "two or more are gathered" we can change the world.

Posted by: Peg on February 14, 2005 01:46 AM

Mike ;] ..

I'm the guy in the supersodas activites w/ the curly hair .. and I'm 30 :] .. the guy w/ glasses is like 33 .. age is subjective... don't let the ten-based system hax you into thinking 30 is a barrier :]

Posted by: lobster on February 14, 2005 02:02 AM

PLANETARY CONNECTION FOR THE HEALING OF MOTHER EARTH. FOR LIFE AND PEACE

CEREMONY OF THE 8000 SACRED DRUMS AND COSMIC SOUND

JANUARY 26 / FEBRUARY 26 / MARCH 26, 2005

http://universidadindigena.org/uii/id58.html

Everyone want to drum on Saturday the 26th?

Posted by: Jill G on February 14, 2005 02:08 AM

Peg, Dean is not the "savior" of the Dems, anymore than Lincoln was the "savior" of the slaves, however the actions Lincoln took (and those actions had nothing to do with slavery in the beginning) opened doors to shift a consciousness within this country. That's what Dean will be doing. His actions (and I expect most of them will be unconscious) will open doors to shift the consciousness of the political landscape in this country. The energy around the Dems and politics shifts because of Dean. We can't look to him to behave this way or that based on what we would like to see, but when the dust settles it will be Howard Dean that will be given credit, much as Lincoln is given credit for what came out of the Civil War.(that's just an example

Posted by: Sally on February 14, 2005 03:43 AM

Oh man that sounds so good. I'm looking forward to it.

Posted by: Pat C on February 14, 2005 04:28 AM

Even Cat-Killer Frist is saying Smirky's Social Security "plans" are going nowhere:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000087&sid=ay5PBE.RHEus&refer=top_world_news

and John Varavosis at americablog.org is promising something huge about Gannon will be out tomorrow.

Whew!

And Captain Sally I'm just loving everything you say about Ho Ho. Many, many thanks.

Posted by: shylurker on February 14, 2005 04:44 AM

i am floored...my favorite performance artist in america (the world for that matter) 'lobster' contacted me (from my link to their incredible site http://www.uberzine.com/supersodas).

lobster, you and your cohorts are in the fine tradition of lowtax/jeffk...all the better, for that matter, since you are a real world, not virtual hax.

if i had three choices for celebrity contact:

elizabeth shue (from leaving las vegas)
howard dean (a favorite DEM) or
lobster/uberzine crew

naturally, i'd pick elizabeth shue. BUT, i'd pick lobster/uberzine crew second!

it's been a fine day!


Posted by: mike on February 14, 2005 05:12 AM

I love percussion, and 8000 sacred drums sounds wonderful!

My view is this.

Dean, of course, will not be a savior. I think he is probably not a great man. He was just hired to do an important job, and he will do a good one. There are specific tasks for the DNC Chairman, and that is what he will do. An excellent choice.
Everyone plays a part, and this is about division of labor. Until we recognize our individual power and significance, we will not have good leadership. When we do, we will work together with our chosen politicians, and put them in proper persective. They are a reflection of us.

We can't escape, nor should we fight too hard and dissipate our strength. We need to recognize our individual jobs, see what we can contribute, and begin to take responsibility. The sooner we do this, the sooner we can move on to something better. We have to work our way out of this together.

The people here were probably born at various stages beyond this primitive mindset. For me, I have always felt out of place. But now I am beginning to sense a better fit with my society, which makes me think that this shift in awareness is real. All the more reason for all of us to value our talent and heed the call to contribute. There is power in numbers and if we unite and mobilize, I am convinced that we can improve our society.

Posted by: jm on February 14, 2005 05:19 AM

And mike's fortuitous re-connection with lobster is a great portent. The uniting of two, ripples and affects us all. It reminds us of the joys of friendship.
Our forums have mighty potential.

Posted by: jm on February 14, 2005 05:31 AM

"We have the Internet for some real reason where the collective mind is running loose and free, "

That is a mind opening epiphany - and I really like the thought and the potential.

No wonder "they're" so afraid of the internet.

Posted by: Pallas18 on February 14, 2005 05:46 AM

Hey, Pallas 18!!

Freedom is on the march after all!
I intend to scare the bejeeziss out of them. They better hold on to their little bibles.

Posted by: jm on February 14, 2005 06:00 AM

Been gone for a couple of days. Great article Isabelle, thank you.
I am overjoyed that this position of leadership for Dean is the next step. Last year I felt he would be very important to the 'soul' of the US. And now, it appears that he will truly be more able to make a difference on a basic foundation level, than he ever could have done as president under the current political climate. When a house falls down, if you want to rebuild you start with the foundation, not the roof.
PatC & Pallas - regarding future earth changes - my gut feeling is that activity has something to do with magnetic, and/or perhaps axis, shifts and that changes will be gradual rather than as a shortened time cataclysmic event. Not to say there may not be catastrophes in this or that corner of the globe from time to time. Earth has been undergoing changes for a very long time. Just my take on it - and as a fyi footnote, the magnetic north pole has been moving about 40km NW each year.

On another note - this jumped out at me from the Christian Science Monitor. Haven't seen or heard of it anywhere else (but why should that surprise me with the current MSM) They're moving legal redress away from state jurisdiction to federal judges. More intent of control by the corporofundies etal it would appear.
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Class-action suits reclassified

Final approval appears likely this week for a bill sending multiparty cases from state to federal court.

By Gail Russell Chaddock | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor

WASHINGTON – As official Washington plunges into the proposed budget for the 2006 fiscal year, there's a quieter race to move a decade of controversial judicial reforms through the Congress and to the president's desk.
Timing is critical. Looming battles over Social Security and judicial nominations could deepen partisan rancor. That's one reason key Senate negotiators and their highly mobilized business allies want to move quickly toward their goal of changing the rules of the game in US courts over everything from class actions and medical malpractice to how workers are compensated for exposure to asbestos
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Posted by: Jeanie on February 14, 2005 06:01 AM

OOOoops! Isabelle was the last article - they are coming so fast and wonderfully, I get mixed up!
This one is an ever so big thanks to you too Morgana!!! Its been so long!

Posted by: Jeanie on February 14, 2005 06:05 AM

"Dean's victory marks historic shift in party"

"Over the last 150 years, by tradition, the Democratic chairman had been an insider with powerful pals - a crony of the president, or protege of a key senator, or a front man for fat-cat donors. And the choice of that leader, by the voting members of the Democratic National Committee, had generally been "a rigged deal," as party strategist James Carville puts it.

Dean breaks the mold. Never before has the leader of a grassroots citizen army captured this job. The same guy who once inveighed against "the Washington politics-as-usual club," and who once referred to members of Congress as "cockroaches," has been given a mandate to shake things up - courtesy of the party's 447 voting members, who hail from all 50 states and who no longer intend to follow the old guard.

"This is a revolutionary redefinition of the party chairmanship," said Brian Lunde, a former national party official who, during the 1980s, helped several Democrats win the chairmanship. "We are moving into totally uncharted waters."

more:
http://www.tallahassee.com/mld/tallahassee/10886246.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp

Posted by: jm on February 14, 2005 06:54 AM

Senator Boxer to receive bouquet of 5,000 Roses on Valentine's Day!

Senator Barbara Boxer of California will receive a bouquet of almost 5,000 roses from supporters and constituents across the country on Valentine's Day, February 14th, as a loving thank you for her recent outstanding service in the Senate. Organized by Stacy Davies of Claremont, California, the roses will be delivered February 14th to the Hart Senate Building office of Barbara Boxer in Washington DC. at 3:30 p.m. EST.

This warms my heart!! -more-

http://dailykos.com/story/2005/2/13/192422/372

Posted by: Laurie on February 14, 2005 07:23 AM

Havn't read the posts this AM but, found this on my IPS front page. & it reminds me why I don't want Hillary for Prez.
Disappointing!
http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/21941.htm
I intend to write her.
PQOP

Posted by: Pat QOP on February 14, 2005 09:48 AM

And here's a REAL breath of Springtime! "Once apon a time"
I used to go thru the orchards and gather the freshly pruned branches, ( done at this time of year before the trees bloom )
and put them in a tall vase. I always had peach blossoms in the house!
Bridgeton is my hometown. One time catshup capital of the world!
http://www.oregonlive.com/newsflash/business/index.ssf?/base/business-35/1108366846211970.xml&storylist=business
PQOP

Posted by: Pat QOP on February 14, 2005 10:11 AM

I just love Barbar Boxer! Thanks for that post Laurie!

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=barbara+boxer+roses&btnG=Search+News

Posted by: Pat C on February 14, 2005 03:36 PM

PatQOP Oh my gosh, "peach blossoms" how beautiful, how wonderful, how perfect spring. You said "once upon a time" does that mean you no longer have peach blossoms in the house at springtime? I hope you do, it's wonderful to consider.

Speaking of flowers, I don't know if Pat C was the first, but she was one of the first to send roses to Barbara Boxer for standing up and doing her job as a member of the loyal opposition, in a sense Pat C is partly responsible for the flow of flowers to Barbara Boxer this Valentines Day

Posted by: Sally on February 14, 2005 04:19 PM

Off the Dean blog Sunday a.m.:
politics in America has trended toward top-down "organizations [that don't] generally involve going to a local lodge once a week and communing with your neighbors." Glenn W. Smith describes the results of this trend in his recent book, The Politics of Deceit, as "the complete reduction of politics to marketing:"


...what passes for political debate ...grow[s] more and more distant from the necessary role of citizens who produce political outcomes rather than consume political products. Most Americans get their political information from advertisements that are manipulative by design. The dissolution of social mechanisms for working out our differences—and celebrating our similarities and common purposes - has contributed to the deterioration of the public sphere and made possible the ascendancy of the politics of deceit........ If freedom and democracy are to survive, they will survive because we turned off our televisions and reengaged in a real public discussion. This is why the new internet-based activism can reach an historical importance that might otherwise seem unrealistic to suggest. For the first time since the dawn of contemporary campaigns — the last half of the nineteenth century—people from different walks of life in different parts of the country are having their voices and their arguments heard in a web-driven reconstitution of the public sphere.... As more people gain access to political information, they will find it easier to engage in conversations with their friends and neighbors. Information exchanges of this sort are the most important and most likely to bring citizens back into the public sphere.


Posted by: bbuster on February 14, 2005 04:21 PM

Pricless relics and ancient temples reveal by the tsunami off India!

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/8C6681AC-F693-40C6-B05F-37D9389295A0.htm
Pat QOP

Posted by: Pat QOP on February 14, 2005 04:30 PM

Sadly, Sally the peach blossoms are a thing of the past!
First they were bulldozed & developed over in NJ. ( slightly north of Bridgetin & Mullica Hill, in the article, east of Phila.,) One of my reasons for being in Maine now!
Then I moved.....................
however hope springs eternal......................my cold weather hardy reliant peach tree WILL bloom this spring in my front yard here! It is 4years old and about 7' tall!!!!!!!!
And my local, independant owned, market, in Maine, carries peaches grown in the very orchard in Bridgeton NJ where I used to snatch peaches to eat on my way home from high school!

PQOP

Posted by: Pat QOP on February 14, 2005 04:40 PM

This was posted by Mark Crispin Miller on Salon, and these thoughts are so important IMHO! This issue MUST NOT DISSAPEAR until the next election. Please pass this on to everyone.

" Since E-Day, they've largely lost sight of that distinction—as have all too many blue-staters right here at home. Forgive me for re-hammering on this point, but it is crucial: Bush was not elected. We all have to know it, really KNOW IT, and so do the other peoples of the world.

BTW, have you folks read the Conyers report yet? "Preserving Democracy"? It's an invaluable piece of work, chock-full of evidence of Bushevik electoral fraud throughout Ohio—before, on and after E-Day. It is definitive. There's no disputing it (which is why no Repubs would dare dispute it, preferring instead to try to laugh it off as "paranoia" and "conspiracy theory").

What's needed most ASAP is fixing the electoral apparatus in this country, inasmuch as NO-ONE contra Bush, however brilliant his or her campaign, will ever win as long as Busheviks control that apparatus. And so we have to make E-Day 2004 a giant issue—as there can be no reform without a motivating sense of having just been burned quite badly. (Without that impetus, electoral reform will languish as an abstract issue, like campaign finance reform.) And in order to do THAT, we must do all we can to propagate the harrowing contents of that over-looked report."

...............

This is the story. This must not fade away. Please pass this along.

http://www.bluelemur.com/index.php?p=567

‘The Battle goes on’: An exclusive interview with Congressman Conyers and Raw Story

http://www.truthout.org/docs_05/010605Y.shtml
Preserving Democracy:
    What Went Wrong in Ohio
    Status Report of the House Judiciary Committee Democratic Staff


Executive Summary

    Representative John Conyers, Jr., the Ranking Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, asked the Democratic staff to conduct an investigation into irregularities reported in the Ohio presidential election and to prepare a Status Report concerning the same prior to the Joint Meeting of Congress scheduled for January 6, 2005, to receive and consider the votes of the electoral college for president. The following Report includes a brief chronology of the events; summarizes the relevant background law; provides detailed findings (including factual findings and legal analysis); and describes various recommendations for acting on this Report going forward.

More....

Posted by: Pat C on February 14, 2005 04:44 PM

Montana Debates Special Tax on Wal-Mart, Others

MISSOULA, Montana (Reuters) - Montana's state legislature is targeting the big-box megastores that have taken the place of the old Western general store, weighing a special tax to offset welfare costs for low-paid employees of the retailers.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1895&e=2&u=/nm/20050214/us_nm/retail_walmart_montana_dc

~ snip ~

I love it...Montana? Isn't that a RED state ?

Posted by: Morgana on February 14, 2005 09:00 PM

Ha! Bring that sanity on!!

Posted by: Pat C on February 14, 2005 10:30 PM

Get ready... *'s worst nightmare is going to manifest in next few days... The Jeff Gannon mess. I'm sick to my stomach. Latest info on
http://americablog.blogspot.com/

Now I have to go take a shower.

Posted by: Jo on February 14, 2005 10:31 PM

Hello Astoworld!

I have returned from DC, and I bring news of a rising star on the spritual left. Her name is Dianne Wilkerson. She is an African-American state senator from Massachusetts and she gave one of the most inspiring speeches I have ever heard in her bid for a vice-chair position in the party. Unfortunately she lost, but she impressed the hell out of a lot of people, myself included. This woman needs to be on the national stage, particularly in black churches. Her public speaking skills are comparable to MLK and Barack Obama. And she is uncompromisingly liberal. This woman has got it goin' on. She is a rising star in the party, and you're not going to hear alot about her in the media yet, but she was all the buzz at the convention.

Dean won easily. He seems ready for the job. He and his network of advisors are clearly aware that many people are just waiting for Dean to screw up. During his speeches, Dean kept things under control. And he seems ready for the job. At one point, he indicated his willingness to embrace the spritual and religious left, which is a vast untapped resource in my opinion. Likewise, he expressed a great deal of interest in revamping the state and local party infrastructure.

And one final note: I GOT ON TV!!!

There's a clip of me on CNN that played this morning with Howard Dean shaking my hand.

Note to self: please deduct 3 and a half seconds from 15 minutes of fame.

Posted by: Dave on February 14, 2005 10:52 PM

Jo,
I have always had a very strong intuitive feeling that a LARGE number of important and prominent/powerful right wing Republicans are closeted “self-hating/loathing” homosexuals. My theory has always been that GWB is closeted and that he was so conflicted as a young man that he turned to drug/alcohol and then to Christian fundamentalism to help him with his conflicted moral battle and his self-hatred. Ken Star was the first to stand out and the number has grown and IMHO the Bush Regime just like the Nazis Third Reich is riddled with the very kind of individuals they so adamantly seem to hate the most. I’ve had this intuitive/ opinion about Bush from the first time I saw him on TV and now my husband (which just laughed at me-Thinking it was just that I disliked Bush so much) is now think’n I am probably correct. Two very good friends of mine (both Gay Males) think I am right on ~ They get the same "vibe"

Posted by: Starrynights/SN on February 14, 2005 11:09 PM

My thoughts on Gannon is that he probably has some connection to the male homosexual prostitute ring in DC circles that was a scandal awhile back...was it last year? four years ago? I have no concept of time anymore.

As far as dimson being a closeted gay person, I highly doubt it...he's just an out and out upfront sadistic coward with the makings of a serial killer who enjoys torturing his victims.

A mean spirited good ole boy.

Dave, you're a celebrity in our midst.

Yes I caught Dean talking about the religious on the left.

Hellooo? does anyone remember that this country is supposed to have a separation of church and state....and get religion the f--- out of politics????

grrrrrrrrrr.

Posted by: Pallas18 on February 14, 2005 11:28 PM

Starrynights,

It's a mess... on the surface it appears to be a sex scandal... but that's not it... John at Americablog puts it this way:

"This is the Conservative Republican Bush White House we're talking about. It's looking increasingly like they made a decision to allow a hooker to ask the President of the United States questions. They made a decision to give a man with an alias and no journalistic experience access to the West Wing of the White House on a "daily basis." They reportedly made a decision to give him - one of only six - access to documents, or information in those documents, that exposed a clandestine CIA operative. Say what you will about Monika Lewinsky - a tasteless episode, "inappropriate," whatever. Monika wasn't a gay prostitute running around the West Wing. What kind of leadership would let prostitutes roam the halls of the West Wing? What kind of war-time leadership can't find the same information that took bloggers only days to find?

None of this is by accident.

Someone had to make a decision to let all this happen. Who? Someone committed a crime in exposing Valerie Plame and now it appears a gay hooker may be right in the middle of all of it? Who?

Ultimately, it is the hypocrisy that is such a challenge to grasp in this story. This is the same White House that ran for office on a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage. While they are surrounded by gay hookers? While they use a gay hooker to write articles for their gay hating political base? While they use a gay hooker to destroy a political enemy?

Who in the White House is at the center of all of this? Who allowed this to go on in the People's House? Who committed the crime of exposing Valerie Plame? Jeff Gannon has the answers to these questions, and boy we know he loves to talk.

Let him talk to Patrick Fitzgerald."

-------------

Common Dreams quotes Newsday article last March
Jeff Gannon is last in list below.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0306-02.htm
Mar 6 2004
A federal grand jury has subpoenaed White House records on administration contacts with more than two dozen journalists and news media outlets in a special investigation into the improper leak of a covert CIA official's identity to columnist Robert Novak last July. They include:

Robert Novak, "Crossfire," "Capital Gang" and the Chicago Sun-Times

Knut Royce and Timothy M. Phelps, Newsday

Walter Pincus, Richard Leiby, Mike Allen, Dana Priest and Glenn Kessler, The Washington Post

Matthew Cooper, John Dickerson, Massimo Calabresi, Michael Duffy and James Carney, Time magazine

Evan Thomas, Newsweek

Andrea Mitchell, "Meet the Press," NBC

Chris Matthews, "Hardball,"

MSNBC

Tim Russert, Campbell Brown, NBC

Nicholas D. Kristof, David E. Sanger and Judith Miller, The New York Times

Greg Hitt and Paul Gigot, The Wall Street Journal

John Solomon, The Associated Press

Jeff Gannon, Talon News

© Copyright 2004, Newsday, Inc.

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After WWII vetting and credentialing of members of the Press Corps went from the White House Correspondents Association to the White House itself. Editors and Publishers has this article this morning:

After 'Gannon,' Reporters to Meet with White House on Credentialing

By Joe Strupp

Published: February 14, 2005 12:20 PM ET

NEW YORK Leaders of the White House Correspondents' Association plan to meet with President Bush's press secretary tomorrow to discuss tightening the White House press-credentialing process. The meeting follows the recent uproar over James Guckert, a former White House reporter for the GOP-linked Talon News, who had used the name Jeff Gannon and drawn criticism for asking partisan questions.

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000799767

Posted by: Jo on February 14, 2005 11:32 PM

by kos
Mon Feb 14th, 2005 at 08:30:19 PST

You won't believe this one:

Wal-Mart, the world's largest retailer agreed to pay $135,540 to settle federal charges that it violated child labor laws in Connecticut, Arkansas and New Hampshire. As part of the agreement, revealed yesterday after it was secretly signed in January, the Labor Department agreed "to give Wal-Mart 15 days' notice before the Labor Department investigates any other 'wage and hour' accusations, like failure to pay minimum wage or overtime."

Labor Blog has a screenshot of the email DOJ sent out to district offices informing them of their agreement with Wal-Mart.
This is the power of Wal-Mart's corporate contributions at work. Behold as the most unethical administration in history finds yet another way to wallow in the mud. This agreement doesn't just allow Wal-Mart to hide abuses of child labor laws, but any labor laws (and Wal-Mart is legendary for its anti-worker policies).

Hmmmm...I wonder, are those white children? How silly of me, that would at least make the news (probably only c-span). Morgana, at least somebody is going after them.

Posted by: abilene on February 14, 2005 11:33 PM

Did Barbara get her roses? Was it covered anywhere?

Posted by: M. on February 15, 2005 12:00 AM

Starrynight... I agree with you absolutely about the regime being riddled with gay [religio]homophobes... just as were the German nazis. Nothin' meaner. And that INCLUDES bushaholic. My gay activitist friends also loudly concur. They can spot 'em miles off. ;O)

Posted by: JoannaOregon on February 15, 2005 02:58 AM

Sen Barbara Boxer rec'd 5,000 roses according to Air America. Everyone cheered!

Posted by: JoannaOregon on February 15, 2005 03:03 AM

Errrrpp.

It seems all of Bushco's secrets are coming out of the closet.

Black Major Conservative and big mouth Allan Keyes' daughter announced publicly today that she is gay.

Posted by: Pallas18 on February 15, 2005 04:25 AM

Pallas dear, I can't wait for the big ones to come out, like election fraud, the Plame leaker, and anything that can be traced to Bush & Cheney!

Posted by: Sharon on February 15, 2005 04:31 AM

Gee, we ought to check bushco's chart today.

here's another eeeerrrrpp. Hope you all are grinning big and wide. This is the administration that was going to unsully the oval office.

"(Washington) An online investigative journalism site Monday suggested that White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan is gay and was a regular at gay bars in Texas.

Quoting an unnamed source, The Raw Story reported that McClellan visited an Austin, Texas gay bar on March 19, 1995. The date was fixed in the mind of the source because a local memorial service was held the same day that McClellan attended.

Raw Story, which has outed other anti-gay Republicans, said its source "reserved comment on whether McClellan was actually gay, but said he was frequently seen at gay clubs." It says that another source confirmed McClellan was a regular at gay clubs.

McClellan is an Austin native.

http://www.365gay.com/newscon05/02/021405whAide.htm

____

Now do you know how Jeffrey got into the press corps?

Posted by: Pallas18 on February 15, 2005 04:37 AM

Scientist says US censored Iraq WMD report

February 15, 2005

CANBERRA: An Australian scientist involved in the US search for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq said the CIA censored his reporting so that it suggested the weapons existed, according to an interview on Monday.

Rod Barton, a microbiologist who worked for Australian intelligence for more than 20 years, told Australian Broadcasting Corp television’s “Four Corners” public affairs programme he quit the Iraq Survey Group (ISG) in disgust at the censorship of its interim report presented to the US Congress in March last year.

...

“We left the impression that, yes, maybe there were ... WMD out there,” Barton said. “So I thought it was dishonest.” Barton, an experienced weapons hunter who joined the UN search for Saddam Hussein’s illicit arsenal in 1991, said the censorship in the US investigation began after Charles Duelfer became the new head of ISG in February 2004.

Barton said Duelfer wanted “a different style of report altogether” which he had discussed with US President George W Bush and the CIA.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_15-...


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