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ACT II
The lights dim, the theater is hushed, the curtain is going up on the second act of this nightmarish and ghoulish play. Everyone has arrived, they believe they know their parts, there is no shortage in the cast of characters and they are ready. The usual group is here: the tyrant cracking his whip, the misanthropist with his biting comments, the petty official quoting the Constitution ignorant of its meaning, and the idlers with their love of novelty. There are the hanger ons and wanna bees, the repugnant and gruesome with their devotion to torture those who do not follow; the sniveling yes men and women, the liars, the thieves, the greedy, the depraved and the Pharisee’s are loudly praying in hopes of filling the emptiness of their hearts with a God they believe to be as bereft of love and compassion as they. Yes all here, all accounted for… Finally the audience, the judges, the jury, and perhaps the executioners they too are here, unconscious of the slowly drifting stench of sulphur wafting throughout the theater. Shhh – SHOW TIME January 20, 2004. It’s a day, just another day; another event, another travesty, another election and another pomp and show that has been the US answer to a Coronation since 1789. This day of inaugural ceremonies was our Founding Father’s idea of a democratic and populist Coronation, (only rarely has the “populist” actually been invited.) In preparing for the 2005 Inauguration I watched the confirmation hearing for Dr. Condelezza Rice. Not that it meant anything (every candidate has been confirmed by the Senate since 1984) but it was interesting and kind of fun watching Boxer, Kerry, Obama, and Biden calling her on the carpet for her “shifting sands” stories over the Iraq war. She did ask that they would not “impugn her credibility and integrity” I would have loved it if someone had said “based on your past history you have left us no choice.” Alas, that was not said. Oh well, onto what she did say - NOTHING. The Democrats were admirable in their questioning, they were bold and blunt, and all of them asked in several different ways with a triumph of creativity, “what is your plan to get out of Iraq?” “What are your plans to move ahead and prevent a civil war in Iraq?” “What do you plan in the days and weeks ahead for Iraq?” “How will you help them immediately after the January 30th elections?” What they received in return was nada, nothing, disconnect, pie in the sky, confusion. It was horrible to watch this woman and what she has done in the past, her confusion, her lies, her disconnect, her incompetence and know she would be stepping into the Secretary of State role. Barbara Boxer is an extremely courageous Senator, and she will not back down. Nothing like one Scorpio going after another Scorpio, unfortunately the Republicans will go after Senator Boxer like rabid dogs when all this is over, however it’s not gonna be so easy to take this Boxer down. Dr. Rice has a Cardinal Uranus/Jupiter/Neptune/Chiron all involved in a T-square, this woman can disguise, complicate, and confuse if the question was what time did the sun come up. Saturn is in a very difficult position to the whole T-Square. Neptune is squaring her natal Saturn, and coming to a conjunction of her natal Mars. My advice to President Bush over the next 8 months would be not to let her open her mouth on anything, anywhere, anytime for any reason. As an example, she said today that the Tsunami had been a wonderful opportunity for this administration. Golly, wonder if it was a “wonderful opportunity” for Indonesia. If these hearings are any indication of the next 4 years, Condi did badly. If there is anything a Scorpio does not like is being questioned on their motives, especially in public, if looks could really kill Condi wiped out every Democrat who opened their mouth. Events do not happen in a vacuum, they boil and bubble over time. This Inauguration has several astrological implications. 1) It’s a day and the aspects can be read as just a day for the world and individuals 2) it’s an event in the US therefore a chart can be drawn to cover the next Presidential term 3) the Inaugural Chart has implications for our country, the Congress, the people intimately involved in the administration and the world. 4) This isn’t a “new” event for this administration, as it would be if we had a change of administrations, it’s a continuation of the 2001 Inauguration and can be read as such, both 2001 and 2005 show the intent of this administration. No matter who or what, whenever Saturn aspects our planets, we are serious, whiny, feel overburdened and restricted, we lose money, friends, jobs and life simply does not go our way. We have a repressed immune system and are subject to broken bones, exhaustion, dental problems, colds and flu. We put up walls against friendliness and cooperation, projecting a rigidity and coldness in the place of warmth and compassion. We feel lonely but don’t want to reach out. In short, Saturn aspecting our planets is a very difficult time indeed. We don’t much like others and they don’t much like us. One of the most striking and immediate impressions of this chart is the front and center late degree Cardinal aspects with Saturn in Cancer, Chiron in Capricorn and the NN just entering Aries (the nodes and Saturn are Karmic) and the incredible amount of key administration “cast’ with late degree Cardinal signs including the President, his cabinet, Social Security (Aug. 14, 1935 at 3:30pm Washington, DC) Wall Street (May 17, 1792 7:52am, New York) The Iraqi Transition Chart (June 28, 2004 10:26am, Baghdad) and the United States of America. Iran escapes the Cardinal aspects however in the summer Saturn will be swinging around to Leo and choking them in the summer and fall of 2005. War for Iran is a 50/50 proposition in the latter half of 2005 and into 2006. Social Security and the financial security for the US is another story for 2005. Serious attacks on Social Security will go forward with some success in 2005 but the kicker to destroying the Bush SS agenda completely lies not with the people, but with Wall Street’s instability this year and next. Seeing their money going up and down like a yo yo, people are not going to be that keen to put their money in the stock market, not even the younger generation who right now doesn’t have that much money and lost ever so much in their 401K’s in the last few years. In order to break the back of Social Security as they want to do, Bush and his Cabinet will have to put on ski-masks under the cover of night and break into the “lockbox,” they will however make inroads toward their intent of plundering the United States (and that’s our money) and SS will be one of those inroads and they will have international help. Scorpio is on the Descendant, the ruler and co-ruler (Mars and Pluto) conjoin in the 8th house (other people’s money) and sextiled by Jupiter. Money will go out through wars and into the hands of the Carlisle Group, Halliburton, Root and Brown and a host of other “friends” of the family. Europe’s fortunes will raise due to this administration’s domestic policies, and Mercury/Venus in Capricorn in the 9th house force us to face some unpleasant realities. Oh, and in case you were wondering, very restrictive Judges will be placed on the bench, but not without problems. This was a carryover agenda from 2001 and now Mercury is on the South Node of the 2001 chart in the 9th house. From the past they bring forward the desire to “own” the Judicial Branch of Government, and they will fight tooth and nail to accomplish that end. Saturn in the 2001 Inaugural Chart sextiles Saturn in the 2005 chart and Pluto in the 2005 chart forms a yod by inconjuncting them both. This term of office will find them going forward when they should go back and backward when they should be moving forward further weakening the underpinnings of US power and themselves. Chiron in the 2005 Chart is exactly conjunct the US Pluto and square the nodes producing a wounding to our values and financial systems from the 20th of January to the later half of 2007, plus Saturn opposes the US Pluto. Between now and the Iraqi elections we need to brace ourselves for something pretty terrible happening in Iraq connected with the Jan. 30 elections. Immediately following the Inauguration there will be rapid-fire events. Plan on from now until at least the middle of the summer, this “second act” group will have to scramble to respond to those events. From now until July nearly everything they do will look bad, really bad because they won’t be able to handle the situations well. As for the “day” of the Inauguration, Jupiter sextile Mars promises to have money flowing and it will indeed seem like a Coronation, I wonder if the Queen has sent her Crown and Ermine Robe. In this term of office, following this extremely difficult initial 8/9 months, he will make a valiant attempt to mend fences with our European allies but it will cost the US and George a tremendous amounts of money to bring their “loyalty” back into the fold. I do expect something unexpected to happen during the morning hours, with T-Moon astride the US Uranus and squaring Bush’s Mars. Could be the snowstorm, someone dies suddenly, more demonstrators than supporters, but something unexpected will mark the day for the Bush family. Long term, there will be the usual influx of scandals such as we’ve had over the last 4 years. Who knows, with Saturn at the IC of this chart, perhaps one of them will stick to him. The astrological indications are GWB’s health is none too good, with him either suffering now or in the near future as T-Saturn conjoins his natal Saturn (Capricorn rules his 6th house) Emotionally it will be very difficult for Mr. Bush to find out that the Republican Congress, he so badly marginalized his last 4 years, have realized they hold a great deal of power over Mr. Bush/Cheney/Rove and they will use it in the near future (the 105th Congress also has late degree Cardinal signs to be aspected by Saturn.) There is going to be so much gloom and doom from this administration and Congress through the spring, make sure you take time for comedy we will need to laugh. The Western (Arizona and west) portion of the US also looks to be in for a rough time in their weather, mud slides or earthquakes over the next 4 years, we will have to keep a close watch on that area. I don’t think the next four years will be worse than expected and in some ways it might be better than expected. With the Inaugural Moon on the US Uranus and T Uranus getting ready to square that in the spring, there will be more alienation of the people, another group will be saying “what the h… is going on here.” So a little more hope from that aspect. T Saturn is kissing the US Mercury right now, people will not be overjoyed with their choice at least for 8/9 months although Neptune is squaring the Ascendant and Descendant so there is still the fog covering many, oh it will be such a shock when this country sees the dirt foggy ole Neptune has been hiding, and they will eventually see. Every Inauguration is a historical moment and the closest we come to feeling our majesty as a country and a people. Just as we do on New Year’s Eve, we face a new presidency with hope of something better. We believe our country’s leaders to somehow be better than we are, we expect them to embody the best of ourselves or the best we wish ourselves to be. They are not; they are human and flawed in a myriad of ways, just as we. Nonetheless we ask perfection of them, and if not perfection then hope of a becoming better as a people and a nation. We have faced finding our Presidents to be flawed and imperfect but we’ve not faced a lack of hope in our democracy and this president carried hopelessness with him throughout his first term and now. Tonight the progressed chart of the 2001 Inauguration has Mars in a square to Uranus, the first term ends on a note of rancor. 2005 Inaugural doesn’t have a Mars/Uranus aspect so we carry the rancor with us into the next 4 years and our fears as Saturn completes a yod between the progressed 2001 Moon sextile Uranus. After WWII started Roosevelt continued to be seen and move about the people, Churchill and the King of England walked through the bombings of London. Truman walked throughout Washington without fear after the Atom Bomb was dropped in Japan. After John F. Kennedy was assassinated Johnson moved freely around the country even during the Civil Rights protests, Ronald Reagan continued to interact with crowds after he was shot, Bill Clinton bounded into crowds following the Oklahoma Bombing, Martin Luther King continued to speak even with daily death threats. These were all leaders and men of courage. I’ve wondered if it’s the fear and cowardice of this group of leaders that make us feel hopeless, make us feel we cannot get up again, but we can and we must. George Bush is a coward and lives with constant fear, if we are to raise true leaders up we must face our own fears and step over them.
and from Roosevelt: We have nothing to fear but fear itself. And so tomorrow, the 20th of January 2005 we all plunge ahead together. George and his friends are plunging within a fortress and they are neither free nor courageous. If the rest of us cannot plunge with hope, let's at least do so with faith.
Sally Cheyne McDonald on Jan 20 | Link
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Great article, Sally and I really appreciate the rays of hope you manage to find in a very bleak future. Just wanted to remind everyone that Jan. 20 is "Not One Damn Dime" Day - don't spend a red cent and let them feel how much economic power we have. I'll keep hoping for a good future, and try to be patient while it gets here. Posted by: Baraka on January 20, 2005 04:07 AMOoooooh, Captain Sally! You do rock!! Righteously!!! Posted by: shylurker on January 20, 2005 04:08 AMI just heard a FLASH from Homeland Security. Get this. An un-named, unreliable source has just informed the government that 5 men (3 Chinese, and 2 Hispanics) have crossed the border at Mexico with an un-named dangerous substances and are making their way to Boston and down through New York in an effort to disrupt and perhaps harm the President at the Inauguration. The government is on high alert for danger. Oh Lord, this is beyond ridiculous. They better put up another wall in Washington. Thanks guys for your kind words, you make it a pleasure for us to write. Posted by: Sally on January 20, 2005 04:31 AMWonderful, Sally. I've printed this article and will refer to it as events unfold. Was especially glad to see the Condi prediction. Read an article in the Guardian saying Bush got 76% or 77% of the vote in Utah--and they quoted a couple of his supporters there who voiced slight, tentative misgivings. Gave me hope that one day most of these deluded followers will catch on. Posted by: Barbara on January 20, 2005 04:35 AMCaptain Sally, that action is supposed to be happening in . . . Boston! Isn't that where Kerry is from? My, my, what a coincidence. Posted by: shylurker on January 20, 2005 04:37 AMExcellent Sally. Here's what I'm wondering re: SS. Will it be saved just before it goes over the precepice? Or will it fall into the crevices, never to rise again? The point you made about the market not doing well affecting how people feel about SS, has been on my mind of late. When do you see the apex of the market sliding enough to affect people's judgement? Posted by: M. on January 20, 2005 05:04 AMGREAT ARTICLE SALLY!!! http://www.dougwallace.com/ GREAT ARTICLE SALLY!!! http://www.dougwallace.com/ Rubaiat, I have heard of this guy and read the Pnac statement a couple of years ago. It was sent to Bill Clinton in 96 or 97 can't remember which. This attorney in Reno has been on this for quite awhile and is determined to get Bush/Cheney off the streets so to speak. It could be two Iraqi's but I thought she said (on MSNBC) two hispanics. Whatever it was a very strange report. Vague and wierd, as if that was a new way of being for this group. Posted by: Sally on January 20, 2005 06:24 AMMary, it's not so much the market sliding into the abyss, it's more the instability of the market until 2006 and then I think it could crash. It's amazing to me to watch people deliberately destroy a country. Posted by: Sally on January 20, 2005 06:44 AMDoes anyone have a link about these 5 men crossing over the border? Posted by: Mark on January 20, 2005 07:10 AMI found one myself: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=426750 Posted by: Mark on January 20, 2005 07:20 AMAnd for sure, we're in for a big surprise in the spring with that Mars-Uranus activity in the chart. Posted by: Dave on January 20, 2005 07:43 AMyou are right Dave, April and May will be huge months and the subject of another article. The 8/9 degrees Gemini not only houses the US Uranus, it also relates to a pre-birth eclipse of GWB, Uranus will square that and oppose GWB Mars. Then briefly, but often times can be a trigger, we have the Moon conj. that 8 degrees Gemini, square Uranus/Mars and GWB Mars. A few days later the Moon and Jupiter sets up a yod with Uranus and Mars as the reaction point, and a few days after that Venus will be in a square pattern. The whole period of time in the first two weeks of May are volatile. Posted by: Sally on January 20, 2005 08:25 AMWhoa! This rocks, Sally! Especially liked the excerpt from your short story. Please tell me that it was published! The backdrop of this administrations' transparency to the multitude of those who have signed on to the spread of freedom through war confounds me. When the multitude does wake -- as you suggest -- will we (as a collective) come to our senses or just return to the dream? I ask because in challenging situations there is often an overwhelming sense of depression that follows. Will this wake-up call instill an even greater "depression" as a result? I ask because it is something i sense, thus the crash of the markets, the loss of hope, a sense of inevitability -- so to speak. Again, this is a GREAT SITE! Thank YOU!!!! Thank you, Sally, for this amazing article. The amount of time you must have put into compiling and then translating all of that information is greatly appreciated. Great work! I look forward to the next one. :-) Posted by: Jonathan on January 20, 2005 01:55 PMHey, Does the inaugural chart time casting coincide with the first "official" words that the President speaks at the swearing in or what exactly? Sally, thank you for that amazing analysis and article. Posted by: soulchild on January 20, 2005 02:37 PM
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http://tbogg.blogspot.com/2005/01/jenna-notjenna-bimbos-of-babylon.html RELIGIOUS LEADERS CALL BUSH TWINS: "WHORES"!! President George W. Bush Dear Mr. President: We celebrate with you this week because Christ has allowed you to be His servant in this nation for another presidential term. But already there is a challenge to the biblical norms that you stand for, and it comes from within your very own family. This Thursday, your two daughters, Jenna and Barbara, will appear before the earthly world in attire that cannot be described in any sense as modest. As you know, dress and appearance are an important reflection of our Christian values. "We are what we wear," as the saying goes, and according to this edict, your own daughters, bejeweled and bedecked in garments that plunge of neckline and cling of fabric, cannot be said to reflect the deeply-held believes (sic) of the tens of millions of "values voters" who sent you back to that highest office in the land. As you prepare to lead this country for another four years, remember your role as leader of your own family. "For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior." (Ephesians 5:23) When you advise your daughters as to the essential importance of dressing to glorify God, remind them of these words from Timothy: "I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes." You have four years -a brief time only - to leave an imprint for righteousness upon this nation that brings with it the blessings of Almighty God. Do not risk offending Him in these early days of your second term by presenting forth your own daughters as Oholah and Oholibah, who, like Jezebel, painted their eyes and decked themselves with ornaments to entice men to commit adultery with them (Ezek 23.) Lewis Sheldrick Beverley Hayden Robert Wilder Randy Thomas Dennis Patton Sandy Slokum Roy deLong This adminstration got strong support from these people now they have to deal with them. As always, great article Sally! Posted by: abilene on January 20, 2005 04:12 PM
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- January 20, 2005 He may have a point. Just look at Condoleezza Rice. She's clearly a well-educated, intelligent woman, versed in Brahms and the Bolsheviks, who has just been rewarded for her loyalty with the most plum assignment in the second Bush cabinet. Yet her math skills are woefully inadequate. She can't do simple equations. She doesn't even know that X times zero equals zero. If you multiply 1,370 dead soldiers times zero weapons of mass destruction, that equals zero achievement for Ms. Rice, who helped the president and vice president bamboozle the country into war. Was Condi out doing figure eights at the ice skating rink when she should have been home learning her figures? She couldn't have spent much time studying classic word problems: If two trains leave Chicago at noon, one going south at 20 miles an hour and one going north at 30 miles an hour, how far will each have gotten by midnight? Otherwise, she might have realized that if two cars leave the Baghdad airport at noon on the main highway into the capital of Iraq, neither one is going to get there with any living passengers. Our 22 months at war have not added up to that one major highway's being secured. It's lucky for Ms. Rice that she's serving with men who are just as lame at numbers as she is. Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz couldn't be bothered to tally correctly the number of dead soldiers when he testified before Congress. And his boss, Donald Rumsfeld, didn't realize that using an autopen signature on more than 1,000 letters to the relatives of fallen troops added up to zero solace. Our new top diplomat has obviously not mastered fractions. When she asserted during her confirmation hearing that 120,000 Iraqi troops had been trained, Senator Joe Biden corrected her, saying she was off by a bit. His calculation of trained Iraqi troops was actually 4,000 - hers was 30 times that. Maybe she's confusing hyperbole and hypotenuse. Her geometry is skewed if she thinks she'll now be more powerful than Rummy and Dick Cheney. Doesn't she know that the Pentagon has more sides than her Crawford triangle with George and Laura? She could at least have read "The Da Vinci Code." Then she would have learned about Fibonacci numbers, a recurring mathematical pattern in nature. When you invade a country, you should expect an insurgency. Or, as Fibonacci might have calculated it, if you kill one jihadist, two more arrive to take his place; if you kill three, five more pop up; if you get five, eight more appear, and so on. The incoming secretary of state and her colleagues are, alas, also lousy at economics. After Bush officials promised that the postwar expenses would be covered by Iraqi oil revenues, we find ourselves spending $1 billion a week of our own money. Ms. Rice and her fellow imperialists know so little about physics that they arrogantly jumped into "spooky action at a distance," turning the country they had hoped to make into a model democracy into a training ground for international terrorists, a nucleus for a new generation of radioactively dangerous fanatics. How could they forget Newton's third law: for every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction? The administration needs a lesson in subtraction. How do we subtract our troops and replace them with Iraqi troops while the terrorists keep subtracting Iraqi troops with car bombs and rocket-propelled grenades? Condi may not know Einstein's theory of relativity, but she has a fine grasp of Cheney's theory of moral relativity. Because they're the good guys, they can do anything: dissembling to get into war; flattening Iraqi cities to save them; replacing the Geneva Conventions with unconventional ways of making prisoners talk. The only equation the Bushies know is this one: Might = Right. It is puzzling that if you add X (no exit strategy) to Y (Why are we there?) you get W²: George Bush's second inauguration. At Condi's hearing, she justified the Bush administration's misadventures by saying history would prove it right. "I know enough about history to stand back and to recognize that you judge decisions not at the moment, but in how it all adds up," she told a skeptical Senator Biden. Problem is, she's calculating, but she can't add. For now, Sam Cooke is right about the Bushies. They don't know much about history.
"No Man should be a Master & no man should be a slave" http://www.truthout.org/docs_05/012105Z.shtml Pat QOP Bush was just sworn in at 11:56 am and I am pleased as Saturn conj IC is closer to exactness. Solar Arc Saturn will conjunct IC in Nov 17 2006 leading to failure and possible ending of the whole neocon show. Starman Posted by: Bill Marshall on January 20, 2005 05:14 PMHillary finds religion... Posted by: wv on January 20, 2005 05:18 PMVery nice article, Sally!! Bush does indeed lack courage. He fears everything is an attack. Paranoia reigns in the white House. And it is contagious. It would be great if our Dems began to talk in the words of courage as a counterpoint. Meanwhile, the creep took his oath of office 5 minutes earlier than I anticipated and so I have to recalculate a great deal of data. Cheney's oath has Saturn exactly on the IC. He is going to have a hard time, beginning any day now with the Saturn transit. Posted by: Nancy on January 20, 2005 05:30 PMLet's see... the twins' plunging necklines are MORE offensive than the father's sacrifice of our sons and daughters for a lie? When did god bless America? During the thousands of years (at least 12,000 for the pueblo indians) Native Americans (The People) lived here, free and peaceful? Or, when the Europeans arrived with their 'dis-ease' and weapons and 'values' that eradicated most of them (a holocaust few bother to acknowledge)? Or when a dry-drunk poster boy for fascism was selected by five 'crows' who threw ethics and 'values' to the wind? Or when our Constitution was shredded, our treasury emptied, our jobs outsourced, our grandchildren mortgaged to the hilt? Which 'god' are you referring to? Mars, the god of war... Who invades the land and homes of innocent people in order to steal the resources they live upon... who tortures and kills the citizens in order to 'save them'? Or, perhaps Mammon, the god of 'riches' ... which we may see manifested in the vulgarity of its worshippers tonight as they devour $51M plus as quickly as a horde of shoppers in a rush to seize a "blue light special"? You who 'annoint' yourself as 'Christ-like' have entered a pac(t) with the devil. Deal with it. Posted by: Jo on January 20, 2005 05:55 PM
http://www.sfgate.com/comics/fiore/ Posted by: wv on January 20, 2005 05:59 PMCheney spoke the words, "I swear to God." at 11:50:12 am, EST, Washington, DC. Bush spoke the words, "I swear to God." at 11:56:55 am, EST, Washington, DC. Posted by: Pat C on January 20, 2005 06:00 PMPat QOP, Cap't Sally, we ARE affected by what is happening on this day... Joanna, just when I thought all the veils had dropped... I have now completely internalized the chief 'mark' of fascism --- one party... ---- and the grief is overwhelming. I don't do well in the mundane world anyway. Claudia was right, oh soooooo right. Posted by: Jo on January 20, 2005 06:07 PMThere are thousands of protesters in the District of Columbia and they are loud. They will stay there all day. You can see them on C-Span 2. Posted by: Pat C on January 20, 2005 06:18 PMLittle Rock DC DC England Philippines Woops, the top link I labeled Little Rock is DC. Posted by: Pat C on January 20, 2005 06:30 PMYea, verily, Jo... we share immense grief & STILL must stare Truth straight in its eyeballs. I cloister, too... have done so, I'm sure, for centuries. Blessed Be, dear Sister. Posted by: JoannaOregon on January 20, 2005 06:31 PMNancy and Bill yes we will have to do a whole bunch of recalculations but this is such good news, makes it a bit more difficult for them sooner than expected. I didn't see it, I was at the Dentist and listening to him rant and rave and wondering how he would be able to stand 4 more years. Jo, Claudia was right but there is still hope and we will have to fight for it, we are the "leaders" we've been looking for. I laughed when you mentioned "a pact with the devil" because I saw James Dobson on TV a couple of days after the election and he was expounding on what he and "Christians" expected from Bush this next 4 years and I thought "the Republicans will rue the day they made a pact with the Devil." In some ways this is going to be funny to watch. I read that letter and howled. Hope they sent it to the news media, in fact John Stewart should get a copy of that letter. Posted by: Sally on January 20, 2005 06:44 PMPat thanks for the CSPAN info. Capt'n Sally awesome piece of work. The American People are waking up, groggy. CNN last night ran a short piece on the Washington DC citizens and how they have to foot the bill for this extravaganza in opulent decadence...reminds me of Marie Antoinette, let them eat cake. Interesting echo of the past eh. AWer's ya'll are awesome, rock on. btw haven't fallen off the face of the earth still deciding what shade of Blue I am :) and to gain some objectivity. I haven't any, I am still incensed, enraged, just a mite angry since the election. Love you guys! Nancy quick thank you on your piece Sea of Tears, beautiful work! xoxo Morgana Posted by: Morgana on January 20, 2005 06:53 PMNo kidding Sally! I completely agree. In the long run, the Republicans wil rue the day they made a pact with the devil. They did it with the racist vote before and now they're doing it with the mysoginist/homophobic vote now. We need a word that refers to this particular brand of phobia that tunrs on issues of gender and sexuality. Any suggestions? Posted by: Dave on January 20, 2005 07:04 PMDave, They hate all life and worship death because it will end their pain and psychosis. Having seen alcoholics up close I can understand how Bush ended up in the fundametalist system, birds-of-a-feather.
Quick history trivia: Marie Antoinette never, ever said "let them eat cake" (in response to yet another seriously horrific bread shortage in France) Marie Antoinette was as unaware of the poor and destitute who surrounded her in her day as our own King George is of those struggling to make ends meet today. So, for her to even mention the poor would have been damn near impossible! Just thought you history buffs might enjoy that. Posted by: Jonathan on January 20, 2005 08:11 PMDave how about these? Eleutherophobia - Fear of freedom this link has more than I've seen anywhere else...http://www.phobialist.com/index.html Posted by: Garry on January 20, 2005 08:35 PMCongrats for your patience Jill G! I hope it was worthe the effort. Garry, I like genophobia. Read that article on CounterPunch that Jill G is referring to. You'll see why it's a good fit. I wanted to make one other commnet, regarding the pictures of the inauguration. Did anyone else notice how white the pictures were? Especially the ones from before the ceremony. Everything looked sterile as if it had been scrubbed to perfection. It was almost shocking to look at. Just a thought. Posted by: Dave on January 20, 2005 09:13 PMActually, the History Channel's scholarship leaves something to be desired, and Antonia Fraser's book would be a better reference. Marie Antoinette, in fact, contributed a great deal to charity and in addition, it is entirely due to her that the textile, porcelain etc. industries "came back from the dead". They were languishing until She brought into fashion the style known as Louis XVI, which the entire world wanted to copy. This brought a large amount of money into the country and put a lot of people, who had previously been destitute, back to work. These factories went into a decline with the revolution and nearly disappeared altogether. It took an enormous effort by Josephine to bring them back to viability. But, they were right about the fact that she never said "let them eat cake". This just goes to show that the accepted story isn't always the true one, a lesson that has become evidently clear to us these days. Posted by: M. on January 20, 2005 09:34 PMAh yes, the political convenience of history blurring impressions - sort of like the declaration of independence being linked to religous freedom when in reality it was solely due to economic raping used to feed King George's war. Posted by: Jeanie on January 20, 2005 09:50 PMAs for today, thank you Sally, Nancy & Bill for what may be a ray of sunshine in this overcast day. As for the article about the ***h girl's necklines, when I first read it on DU I thought it was satire. What a miserable lot they all are and boy oh boy do they deserve each other. So let's see if the stars conspire to send them all to a deserted island where all they have is each other to annoy. Posted by: M. on January 20, 2005 09:56 PMJo, The protesters were pretty vocal, & emphatic! Kept too long behind a high brown wire fence, while 1 security person did ID pat-downs, they were not happy! At one point they breached the fence ( my son suggested that it had been built by Democrats) and started to file thru, until they were sprayed by police. Water hoses? pepper spray? It made quite a wide arc. Later they were pelting the police with what looked like snowballs, causing them to retreat into the center of "Freedom Square" There was ACTUALLY A PERSON WITH A LOUD SPEAKER PRECEEDING THE PREZ LIMO saying. at intervals "Pres. G W & Laura Bush, let them know you love America" !!!!!!!!!! Peter Jennings liberal leanings such as they are kept ooozing out around the edges. At one point he seemed to be interupted by a monitor speaking into his earpiece!, to chastise him for some "loose" observation! The protesters pelted the limo with somethings; I couldn't tell what. If our soldiers were as secure as the Prez in his armoured limo we'd have a LOT fewer dead! Who did say "Let them eat cake"? Upsdate on the petition to fire Rummy: If you haven't signed the Rumsfeld petition, please do so immediately. http://www.johnkerry.com/ReplaceRumsfeld And, please forward the petition right now to friends and colleagues, urging them to join in this effort. Sally....great piece...I always loved any reference to the Philistines when it comes to religious crazies.... What did you mean that Claudia was right? What did I miss? Posted by: on January 20, 2005 10:08 PMComing from a background of fashion illustration, I about peed myself reading the Jenna/Barbara whores of babylon letter....thanks for posting that! Posted by: judi gemini on January 20, 2005 10:13 PMSince * put his hand on the Bible to take his oath of office today, perhaps he should have taken time to read some of the "instructions" within - What goes around, comes around - and Pride surely does come before HIS fall: Love the LORD, all you faithful ones! For the LORD protects those who are loyal to him, but he harshly punishes all who are arrogant. Psalm 31:23 Don't be impressed with your own wisdom. Instead, fear the LORD and turn your back on evil. Then you will gain renewed health and vitality. Proverbs 3:7 The LORD despises pride; be assured that the proud will be punished. Pride goes before destruction, and haughtiness before a fall. It is better to live humbly with the poor than to share plunder with the proud. Proverbs 16:5, 18-19 Haughty eyes, a proud heart, and evil actions are all sin. Proverbs 21:4 The day is coming when your pride will be brought low and the LORD alone will be exalted. In that day the LORD Almighty will punish the proud, bringing them down to the dust. Isaiah 2:11 "I, the LORD, will punish the world for its evil and the wicked for their sin. I will crush the arrogance of the proud and the haughtiness of the mighty." Posted by: Siobhan on January 20, 2005 10:15 PMAnon above: "It was said 100 years before her by Marie-Therese, the wife of Louis XIV," Fraser explains. "It was a callous and ignorant statement and she [Antoinette] was neither." The attribution is doubly erroneous in English, truth be known, because the word "cake" is a mistranslation. In the original French the quote reads, "Qu'ils mangent de la brioche," which means, literally, "Let them eat rich, expensive, funny-shaped, yellow, eggy buns." This comes from Catherine Frasier, author of bio of MA But, who knows? There is hardly an original thought in the Universe, and who is privy to what someone says, or does not say? The statement has probably gotten too much coverage as it is... the same as the phrase "the whores of Babylon" --- personally, I despise that statement... what exactly is a Whore, and who determines that there are more any one place than another? Similar to the letter from the sexually repressed above to *, men cannot be held responsible for their deeds. If they do "the deed", it's a woman's fault! Uggghh! The Neanderthals MUST have been assimilated! Considering how much of the news these days is LIES, one can safely assume that MUCH of yesterday's so called 'his-story' is LIES and pure fabrication also. That's my rant for the year! Posted by: Jo on January 20, 2005 10:22 PMThe twins' condemnation was highly amusing. The scaffold is collapsing. I feel curiously uplifted today. I haven't checked in with the media but it sounds like the festivities were somewhat of a dud. Not the stuff of great dictators. Just some cheezy parties left, some drunken Hee Haw hilarity, and we'll be on our way. HE said that we have a calling beyond the stars. I guess he doesn't realize what the stars have in store for him on his way out there. I think history is largely fiction. It's like a game of telephone, altered dramatically by the time it reaches the present. Posted by: jm on January 20, 2005 10:38 PMOkay, I had this french teacher who also always said that Antoinette said "Qu'ils mangent de la Brioche", which at the time was a rich pastry for the french "well-to-do". Actually, she was saying that everyone should live the Paris high-life. Antonia Fraser's book was a wonderful read. Anyway, The condition of Saturn for the second-term and with transits to Bush's chart is so amazing, especially in 2006 and also in the spring of this year. I had a dream that I came home from work, turned on the TV and the news interrupted Oprah about a major Bush scandal. I don't know what the newscaster was saying, but it was serious and it was some elaborate plot that was found out by the Press. Don't ask me the details, but it gets Bush impeached. Travieso, I published a post back a few articles saying that my psychic take was that B*** would be impeached May 6, 2006. Also that USA moves into war on Iran on Apr 5 2005. I would hope that the term whores would be understood to mean anyone who would do anything for money....without reservation. For the basest reasons....and unfortunately, getting money for sex appears to be the way misogyny rears its head....by condeming that act and identifying it only with women. I like to think of whores as being all inclusive, because, after all, men, women, gay, straight, and advertising people (my work joke) are all equal to the job of being whores....and often even enjoy it. Guess there must have been a lot of that in Babylon that it would be remembered 3000 years later. JM...yes!!! the scaffolding is collapsing. To be followed by the peasants with pitchforks.... Posted by: Judi Gem on January 20, 2005 10:56 PMSatire: France Invades US, part 7 „The Cause‰ By Jerry Ghinelli George Bush, Chirac claimed, had links to terrorist groups. He also invaded his neighbors, used lethal chemical weapons against prisoners while governor of Texas, and even tortured, killed and humiliated prisoners at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo, said Chirac. Judi G., sorry, I wasn't picking on you. It's just that I've been hearing that phrase since the run up to the war... the biblical reference is "the whore of Babylon" meaning Babylon itself is a 'whore'... and it's that I speak to... I totally agree that 'whore' can be whatever... but I think the xtains (as Mike calls them - did I spell it incorrectly?) use it to excuse their destruction of Iraq. Anyway, I thought your comment after the "letter" to * was a beaut! Checked out my horoscope this a.m. at astro.com, and was warned about being misunderstood or having communication problems... should have listened, shouldn't I? Anyway, I've moved from my paralysis... went to the library and checked out Molly Ivins' newest book --- going to curl up with the cat and a glass of wine and laugh my gloom away. Keep laughing, right Sally? Posted by: Jo on January 20, 2005 11:21 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,5108259-110878,00.html Posted by: WV on January 20, 2005 11:30 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,5107604-103677,00.html Posted by: wv on January 20, 2005 11:35 PMThe Marie Antoinette history lesson is quite interesting, I believe the symbology of that statement was the original point and it looks as if a lot of people, as in the Karen Kwiatkowski article of the "Guardian" that WV posted see the symbology of the comment as applied to the attitude of today. The Reagans were another Republican couple that the quote "let them eat cake" was applied. Posted by: Sally on January 21, 2005 01:31 AMSally....how weird, I was writing exactly the same thing you were....but I hit the cancel button by mistake and the page reloaded and I thought I was reading what I had written only it wasn't....but that French Revolution vibe is certainly out there.... Posted by: Judi gemini on January 21, 2005 01:33 AMJo...next time you go to the library (after laughing with Molly) pick up, if they have it, 30 Satires by Lewis Lapham (editor of Harper's), who is the god of essays....you will love them. I've got nothing against whores....unless they say they aren't. Posted by: judi gemini on January 21, 2005 01:36 AMSally...funny that you brought up the Reagans as another let them eat brioch couple....since the LOATHED each other. Pretty funny! Posted by: judi gemini on January 21, 2005 01:38 AMGreat article, Sally. I hope though that the French revolution analogies end with "Let them eat cake." It was much bloodier than our own revolution and set the stage for Napoleon. Posted by: Teresa on January 21, 2005 02:13 AMJo, enjoy your solitude in the woods. I'd give anything to have a quiet place to go to recharge my batteries. Just me and my critters. I wonder if Shylurker spent the day under the bed. Posted by: Teresa on January 21, 2005 02:18 AMBoy is it lively here lately, I LOVE IT!! And all of this brilliant talk about "let them eat cake" reminded me of the great novel I read in high school, "Les Miserables"--and from that, let me be the first to post this: Truth and white light to all, and may our metaphorical guillotines be sharp when the scaffold has completely collapsed........ Posted by: Garry on January 21, 2005 02:19 AMTeresa, here is a picture of the parade we had today under the bed. Posted by: shylurker on January 21, 2005 02:36 AMDear Sally, Beasley, I just had to laugh, those were my mistakes and I will go back and correct them. Some days I am just too far down the rabbit hole. Posted by: Sally on January 21, 2005 04:06 AMBeasley, I went back and that's right, the NN in the 2005 chart just entered Aries and is in the 12th house. The South Node in 2001 was in Capricorn and the Mercury of 2005 is conjunct the 2001 South Node. I just didn't articulate it very well. Posted by: Sally on January 21, 2005 04:11 AMThanks so much for this great article Sally!! Posted by: SuzieLiberal on January 21, 2005 04:41 AMDear Sally, To me, the solution to the problem is in that North Node in the 12th. Since the South in Libra indicates conflict with open enemies that probably can't be resolved, the best course would be to sheath the sword, withdraw from the fray, and go find the lost self in the 12th. jm, according to Vedic astrology the NN in the 12th makes it hard to get much going, negatively it's a loss of funds, standing and some confusion. Positively you work with foreign lands and give a lot of money to those less fortunate. This NN is unfavorably aspected by Saturn. Tonight Jon Stewart counted the number of time freedom or liberty was mentioned. Freedom 27 times and liberty 15. I think that is some feat considering the speech was 21 minutes long. So in every single sentence freedom and or liberty was mentioned at least twice. I do know that it was a code word to the die hard Republicans, and that was government OUT of everything including Social Security, education, social programs, health programs and probably road improvement, it was Texas talk. He is going to have a hard time with Social Security, in fact with Saturn squaring the NN in the 12th, he is going to have a hard time, still and all I think our money is going to be heading south in this country. Posted by: Sally on January 21, 2005 07:51 AMThanks sally. I'm hoping, hoping, hoping that the social security issue will be his first major failure and will lead to a pack of successive failures. Which will be our success. That's quite a feat! 42 times in 21 minutes. Seems like he would lose his audience. well, well, well...thanks for the excellent article sally. same old, same old...except worse. i'm in the DC area. i chose not to attend the festivities yesterday since i'd already been downtown for the 1/6 rally/march. actually, i wish i'd gone. it sounds like an excellent crowd. just so you all know this, not one single person i ran into today, and i see a lot of people every day, said one thing about the inauguration, NOT ONE THING. i brought it up a couple of times and people just rolled their eyes. people here don't even want to think about it. it's amazing. that would be like new yorkers being disinterested in st. patrick's day, or people in new orleans disinterested in mardi gras, or los angeles denizens indifferent to best beach days of summer. we're in a dead calm for a few days and, it seems and feels like, then all Hell will break loose. i have an idea, new news service: HNN (Hell News Network) featuring highlights from the second * administration. and now for my prediction (via my good friend) Posted by: mike on January 21, 2005 08:14 AM[this is from a good friend of mine. it's GREAT] AG YIELDS TO PRESSURE IN BOLD MOVE by Juan Arbuthnot and Martinus Scribblerus (Washington D.C.) Attorney General Gonzales today announced the indictment of outgoing President G.W. Bush for swearing falsely to protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. "The evidence is overwhelmingly obvious," the AG declared. Gonzales' announcement shocked normally hard-bitten Washington reporters. "It's the toughest decision I've ever had to make," the Texas Latino told the gathered scribes. "But there's incontrovertible proof he placed his hand on a Bible and freely, knowingly, and willfully affirmed the oath." Mr. Shrub's lawyers petitioned Chief Justice Thomas for injunctive relief, declaring "the attack on France was not an illegal act but a defense against French banks that cornered the market on the social security private investment program and led to its collapse." In other news, the Army announced it would extend the tour of duty of the one million soldiers in Iraq indefinitely. In California, Gov. Arnold Schwartzenegger announced his plans to conscript paramilitary organizations into the California National Guard to meet the state's quota for troops targeted for overseas movement to Iraq. A spokesman for the Boy Scouts of America expressed support for the move. Incoming President Barbara Boxer declared Gonzales' action "courageous" but pointed to the cloud hanging over the Attorney General's handling of torture allegations early in Mr. Shrub's second term. In the notorious case, FBI agents secretly detained Cartoonist Lalo Alcaraz, who, under alleged torture, disclosed the actual identities of members of the "Pocho" board, identifying all as "vegetarian communists". A spokeswoman for the FBI denied the missing Pochos had been tortured or disappeared, declaring "the so-called missing Pochos and their families are enjoying good treatment by Guantanamo guards". President-elect Boxer would not comment on rumors she would declare defeat in Iraq and bring the troops home immediately. Back to board index This is from http://WWW.POCHO.COM, premier Latino/Latina political/cultural boog in CA...DU's west cost cousin. Check it out: http://www.pocho.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=news ;action=display;num=1106196797 Scroll down to article: "FWD: Celebrate the Shrub Inauguration!" Posted by: mike on January 21, 2005 08:16 AMHere's a list of Inaugural donors.... http://www.inaugural05.com/donors Posted by: wv on January 21, 2005 01:42 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,5108942-103677,00.html Posted by: wv on January 21, 2005 01:45 PMConcerning remarks in *'s address yesterday, it seems to me that his words are not only coded for his core support, but overall are directed to the nations of the world, particularly the newly formed alliance of India, Russia, China and Brazil. This alliance comprises 3/4 of the people on the planet and it is presently connected to ME big time with the agreements between Iran and China for future shipments of nat'l gas (to China). These contracts total $$Bs... it's not the 'nuclear capability' per se of Iran that Rice and others are rattling their sabres about... more the company they keep. Duh, what did the chimpemperor expect when he drew a line in the sand and isolated America from the rest of the world. "Spreading Democracy" translates to creating hegemony. [America can't outsource Democracy... we no longer produce it.] America is now reduced to a 'paper tiger' and well on our way to becoming a banana republic, imho. Like a toddler, * stomps his feet and shouts his intentions. And like a spoiled, out of control toddler... he may attempt to carry out his agenda. However, there are some 'adults' looming on the horizon who will not tolerate his desire to control all the toys in the sandbox. This global chessgame is all about the future --- whether America will 'share' in multinational global co-existence, or attempt to plant its boot on the neck of the rest of the world. Posted by: Jo on January 21, 2005 01:45 PMExcellent that he isn't going to be able to dismantle SS. With the way things are going, that is the only life raft that many people will have. Posted by: M. on January 21, 2005 01:47 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,5108682-103682,00.html Posted by: wv on January 21, 2005 01:52 PMGreat article Sally. Here's a snip from Matthews latest channeling that flew out at me: "However, first I want to say that this "term" will be among the shortest presidential reigns in US history." He was, of course, referring to Bush. Oh, if it would only be so. Also, here is an article from a sister to the north of us: http://www.onlinejournal.com/Commentary/012105Oommen/012105oommen.html Patricia Patricia, your above article is excellent. I hope everyone reads and pays attention to. Unfortunately millions of us won't awaken until it's too late. Thank you for sharing this. Posted by: Sally on January 21, 2005 03:31 PM
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/g/a/2005/01/21/notes012105.DTL&type=printable Posted by: wv on January 21, 2005 04:19 PMExcellent article Sally! Patricia - that was quite interesting about "one of the shortest terms," - can you give a link? Posted by: Laurie on January 21, 2005 07:29 PMThanks for such an excellent article, Sally. You cover a lot of territory and yours assumptions are pretty plausable. I am proud of Democrats, such as Boxer, Kerry & Kennedy, among others, whose comments will go on record and who will continue to give this administration and their coherts a hard time. record. I am also proud of the Republicans who are standing up to them and look forward to their obstruction of *'s plans. Those last two article (Oomen & Morford) posted by Patricia and wv were extremely good. I'd also like a link to the latest Matthew channeling, Patricia, if you have one. Posted by: Sharon on January 21, 2005 08:05 PMLaurie- Excellent column from my favorite columnist
Shooting a family in Iraq... Posted by: wv on January 21, 2005 09:56 PMBlood on His Hands.... http://207.44.245.159/article7787.htm Posted by: wv on January 21, 2005 10:36 PMOh does shrub has blood in his hands;the war criminal has massacre in his hands. Those pictures media here is so brainless and stupid-mike powell http://www.lawandpolitics.blogspot.com/ If you’re happy that Bush won, congratulations. Enjoy it. Rub it in if you want. But please do me just one favor – spare me any **it about how I need to rally behind this administration in the name of national unity and the challenges ahead. I won’t do it. We did that once already and you see where it got us. We gave Bush the benefit of the doubt after 9/11 – we rallied behind him – only to see the national tragedy used to hammer us in the lead-up to war, at the Republican Convention, and throughout the election. Democrats who try to lend a bipartisan hand in the name of national unity are treated the same as those who don’t are. So no thank you. He may do things that I agree with, but I will never support him. I will be ecstatic if Iraq succeeds, and I would hope that everyone shares the same goal, but I will never support him. My rejection of this man and this administration is so complete that there is quite literally nothing he can ever do to gain my trust or my support. This is not my president. IMHO this says it all! Posted by: abilene on January 21, 2005 11:05 PMA black hole at the Black Tie affair Thanks Patricia and Garry - that Matthew statement was great - and hopeful! Love this site! Posted by: SuzieLiberal on January 22, 2005 01:21 AMMolly Ivins take on Rice and on Snare at OSHA. I need some help. I'm trying to get a legal clerkship (preferably paid) or internship in the interim months between now and September (when I will presumably be attending law school). I've been able to locate many contacts within the Dallas legal community, but haven't yet been able to get any interviews or offers. This is not for lack of qualifications (umm, I managed a campaign at age 23), but for the fact that these lawyers are not presently needing the assistance. I need to get a job soon, or I'm going to start having serious problems with my parents. Venus is going to conjuct my Sun on Wednesday, and I was offered the campaign job the day of the Venus occultation, so I'm thinking that this upcoming Venus action will help things along. But anyway, when you next meditate, please send light in my direction. And don't forget to pay for express delivery so the light arrives by Wednesday. Your help in this matter is much appreciated. It is sent and already with you Dave. Posted by: Pat C on January 22, 2005 02:38 AMI can only wish and hope that Bush will have a shorter term in office than William Henry Harrison. Harrison died of pneumonia after serving only one month. I think I might be able to handle 21/2 more weeks of that little ignorant bully. Posted by: Starrynights/SN on January 22, 2005 03:10 AMExcellent article, Sally. Dave, light and joy is sent your way with much pleasure. Posted by: Janet on January 22, 2005 03:12 AMSally
Good luck Posted by: Jill G on January 22, 2005 03:18 AMThank you. Peace and light to you all as well. Posted by: Dave on January 22, 2005 03:21 AMThe State of the Union Address is on Jan. 25th I believe, but don't yet know the time, I think it's usually around 9:00pm Washington DC, but that's just a guess. Starrynights you crack me up with your "21/2 is about as far as I can go with that little ignorant bully" that was just too funny Posted by: Sally on January 22, 2005 04:07 AMguido was just channeling me, this is an odd turn of events. apparently i provided guido the following information: the state of the union speech will be truly pathetic. bush is cocky and now believes he really won the election. there will be some mild signs of cognitive decay. in addition, there will not be the normal bipartisan hoopla. our newly created enemies in the big "I" will have some death statements to make that will be correlated with the state of the union speech. things will start to look truly desparate over the next two months, during which time fitzgerald, the special prosecutor whom everyone is writing off, will dot the last "i" and make some disturbing charges and inditements. OMG, where am i, what happened...guido, why are you laughing!!! Posted by: mike on January 22, 2005 07:08 AMFrom Michael Ventura's Letters At 3 A.M.: • Twenty percent of Americans think the sun orbits the Earth. Seventeen percent believe the Earth revolves around the sun once a day (The Week, Jan. 7, 2005). Posted by: jm on January 22, 2005 10:41 AMJM, those are scary, but enlightening stats... no wonder * has support! Amy Goodman has an interview with Sy Hersh just posted (I believe it was done 1/19, after the New Yorker piece). Here's an excerpt: (Hersh) "I think the president's got a lot of legal power here. The way the world shakes down is this, when it comes to covert secret operations abroad. If the CIA does it, under the law now they must tell the President. The President has to issue a finding approving it, and the Congress has to be told. The House and Senate intelligence committees have to be briefed. If the military does a covert operation, their interpretation of the law is simply that the president's rights as commander in chief trump any other requirement. That is, the military is there to prepare the battlefield with these operations. This is a military deal, totally. Nothing to do with intelligence. No need to inform anybody. So, now Rumsfeld has won a major bureaucratic fight. He is now operating, as you said in the intro, in up to ten countries. He is sending in covert teams, that is, the word they use inside is "wiped clean." The soldiers are wiped clean. Their IDs are totally non-American and non-military. They're going in to make contact with groups inside various countries, set up operations, trying to do some war games, some terrorism themselves. You run with the bad boys to find the bad boys is the way somebody said to me. In other words, look like bad boys to attract other bad boys so we find out who they are. We can't find the terrorists too often. This is one way of getting at them. And we're going to be doing that with military people. We're not going to be telling the American ambassador in the country. We're not going to be telling the CIA station chief. It's going to be done by Rummy and his people. That's a huge shift, an unprecedented shift, in the last 60 years. (G) Can you talk about, when it comes to Iran, the role of Pakistan and Israel? (Hersh) Well, Israel's role is simply to say, ‘Yeah, if you guys don't do it, we're going to do it.” Nobody wants that. And so Israel is sort of there. Israel is playing it very cleverly, and they understand that a lot of Americans, pro- and anti-Israel, are troubled by the Israeli connection to this administration as it played out in the Iraqi invasion. There's a lot of questions about whether Israel was a major player in this or a major factor. So, they don't want that scene replicated in case we do something in Iran. So, they have been low-balling it, but the reality is they have been putting a lot of pressure. The message really to us is “Either you do it or we do it.” Nobody wants them to do it. That would be chaotic. The Pakistani role is much more devious in a way, much more complicated, because (President Pervez) Musharraf is allegedly our ally in the hunt for bin Laden and all that. Meanwhile, he's going along, making weapons, more nuclear weapons, but he has given us access to some of the Pakistani scientists who work in Iran. One of the things that we learned — one of the reasons we learned about Iran's secret ambitions is the International Agency for Atomic Energy (IAEA), the watchdog in Europe, in Vienna, a non-proliferation regime (of which by the way, Iran is a member of the N.P.T., Pakistan is not) ... announced a couple of years ago that they discovered there was cheating — you know, gambling on the premises, that not only was Iran cheating, but they had been working with the Pakistanis for years. That all ended, but Musharraf has given us some of the Pakistani intelligence, some of the information they know from their own work about where certain facilities are inside Iran. " See all of the interview at so, here's the social security "plan", according to the voice of the White House: This month in the Monkey Palace there has been much discussion of the article in the New York Times by Paul Krugman: in which he says: "There are only two things that could endanger Social Security's ability to pay benefits before the trust fund runs out. One would be a fiscal crisis that led the U.S. to default on all its debts. The other would be legislation specifically repudiating the general fund's debts to retirees." The second statement seems to have put a bright idea in Our Dear Leader's small brain. He is apparently drooling at the mouth, at the prospect of how many kickbacks (board postions, speaking fees, advisory retainers, hot IPO tips) he can expect from Wall Street firms after he retires in 2008, if he "privatizes" Social Security. There is one small problem to overcome: Social Security is not bankrupt. The Trust Funds, (four of them), fully invested in obligations of the U.S. Treasury, as of December 2004 stand at $1,686,985,126,000: Krugman is referring to Article 4 of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which begins as follows: "The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned." The buzz down the hall is that if confirmed as Attorney General, Judge Alberto R. Gonzales intends to write an opinion for George Bush, which would let his boss propose legislation to allow the Treasury to default on its obligations to retirees, and also let his boss off the hook, if, as a result, the central banks of the world dump their dollars. The rumor is that Gonzales intends to focus on the phrase "authorized by law," and to argue that the Constitution does not bar the President from sending legislation to Congress, proposing a default on the $1,686,954,876 of the Trust Fund which is invested in "Special Issue" T-Bills, IOU's written by the Treasury specifically for the Trust Funds. These Special Issue IOU's were issued by the Treasury over the years, to cover the use of working Americans' FICA paycheck deductions to give tax breaks to plutocrat friends of the President. Not only that, but the Treasury might even be able to recognize this repudiation of its liabilities as income, thereby wiping out all Bush's deficits, and allowing him to claim record budget surpluses in his second term, trumping Clinton's record. (Who gives a damn that the cost is the retirement funds of a hundred million Americans?) The danger is that if the Central Banks of Russia, China, Japan, and other nations, should see the U.S. Government repudiate their obligations to their own old folks, in order to manufacture a Social Security "crisis" merely in order that George Bush can have a sweet retirement, they might ask themselves, what is to prevent the U.S. Treasury doing the same to them? If they believe their T-bills are worthless pieces of paper, the stampede out of dollars and into other currencies will cause a Richter 10.0 earthquake in the financial markets. If that happens, Alberto R. Gonzales takes the fall, (with suitable compensation, no doubt,) and Bush continues to smell sweet like a rose. You have to give Team Bush credit. The hallmarks of great criminal minds are that there is no trace of morality or conscience, that they think in terms of sums that stagger the imagination, and that the getaway plan is as important as the crime itself. Up to now, the shenanigans have been in the billions or hundreds of billions. Now they're thinking in terms of trillions. Posted by: Peg on January 22, 2005 02:49 PMFascism... Are we there yet? Posted by: Jo on January 22, 2005 02:59 PMJuan Cole has a poignant, photographic piece on the first line of *'s address. http://www.juancole.com/2005/01/pictorial-commentary-on-first-line-in.html Posted by: Jo on January 22, 2005 03:01 PM
http://www.truthout.org/docs_05/printer_012305Z.shtml Posted by: wv on January 22, 2005 04:04 PMDave, sending light and positive energy your way. Good Luck! Posted by: soulchild on January 22, 2005 04:14 PMDoes anyone know how solar flares and sunspots affect our charts? http://edition.cnn.com/2005/TECH/space/01/21/solar.storms/index.html Posted by: Teresa on January 22, 2005 04:40 PM
Let's face it, if there was an election in the international community, George W. Bush might get elected as a member of a freak show, or perhaps a kitchen hand, handing out plastic turkeys in tents but for the leadership of a country? Perhaps, in a handful of countries like Albania, for instance, which might think first about the bank account rather than any notion of political leadership but in the international community as a whole, the NO vote would be far in excess of 80%, as is patently evident in numerous opinion polls. If President Bush is an example to go by, we do not want his freedom and democracy. We do not want a model of freedom and democracy which sees the President of a country slink into his office in an armoured car which resembles a tank, guarded by 13.000 bodyguards plus countless other security personnel, creeping along a route lined by thousands of protesters. lees meer >> Teresa Solar Flairs and Sun Spots would affect your chart on any given day by looking to where the sun was on the day of the flair and did it aspect any planet in your chart. Posted by: Sally on January 22, 2005 05:27 PMCould this be the story to set us free? After all it's not stealing from the poor IT'S SEX!!!!!!! The Strange Death of the Woman Who Filed http://www.geocities.com/jacksonthor/know.html Thanks, Sally. Did it aspect anything in Bush's or the US's charts? The state of the union address will be given on Feb. 2. Posted by: Teresa on January 22, 2005 07:31 PMCheck out the LAST SOTU address... a year later, it reads like a fairy tale! http://brendoman.com/honzo/state%20of%20the%20union/ Chock-a-block aspects for February 2nd - there's a pretty tight Neptune/Sun conjunction. Either pure compassion or outright lies (I wonder which . . .), Jupiter still conjuncting his natal Jupiter (accolades from the media I'll bet). The Moon in Scorpio transiting *'s 4th house, security, security, natal Mercury/Pluto opposes t. Mercury and also t. Sun/Neptune and trines Uranus (don't know what to think of that), Mars/Pluto conjunct directly at the IC (hmmmmmmmmmmmmm) That's fairly explosive I would think. Bush's Uranus opposes the Mars/Pluto . . . some major explosive shocks coming out of the speech?? A call for a draft?Dunno. Got to give it to you astrologers, you're so good at integrating a chart. I really look forward to reading an article pertaining to this speech!! Posted by: Laurie on January 22, 2005 08:25 PMJust noticed also the Moon in late Scorpio looks to be Void of Course the evening of February 2nd. don't know for sure. Posted by: Laurie on January 22, 2005 08:33 PMSurvivor Found After 25 days Posted by: Laurie on January 22, 2005 10:33 PMHey Laurie. Reffering to:") That's fairly explosive I would think. Bush's Uranus opposes the Mars/Pluto . . . some major explosive shocks coming out of the speech?? A call for a draft?Dunno." All I have to say is those who voted for Bush in November need to put their asses where their votes are. Posted by: Roderick on January 23, 2005 01:08 AMAs the Matthew reading cited above said, many will wake up in the next year, while those who are mentally constipated will cling to their rationale for voting for Bush as well as their other beliefs in the "truth." It also says in the Matthew reading to not be judgemental so my higher Self won't judge them but my lower cynical self is saying with anger - "they get what they deserve." All the smart people that are drafted will desert these imperialistic assholes who are in charge for until they are ejected as "the shortest administration in U.S. history". Hallaleujah! Posted by: Sharon on January 23, 2005 02:47 AMJanuary 21, 2005 "Because we have acted in the great liberating tradition of this nation, tens of millions have achieved their freedom. And as hope kindles hope, millions more will find it. By our efforts we have lit a fire as well, a fire in the minds of men. It warms those who feel its power; it burns those who fight its progress. And one day this untamed fire of freedom will reach the darkest corners of our world." A fire in the mind – surely, I thought, Bush's speechwriters can't have inserted this phrase without knowing its literary origin. It is taken from Dostoevsky's novel, The Possessed, a story set in pre-revolutionary Russia in which the author chronicles the intrigues of the emerging revolutionary movement: one of the main characters is based on the infamous nihilist Sergei Nechaev, whose aim is to make a revolution of such destructive power that bourgeois society will be completely destroyed. Their strategy is to provoke a violent crackdown on all dissent – which will then spark an explosion of revolutionary violence. To this purpose the nihilist Peter Verkhovensky worms his way into the confidence of Lembke, a provincial governor, convincing him of the need to crush rebellious workers who are distributing revolutionary leaflets and generally agitating against the government. The result is an uprising of murderous anger, a volcanic eruption of nihilistic violence that consumes the provincial capital in a great fire. In the end, Governor Lembke stands amid the crowd watching his mansion go up in flames: "Lembke stood facing the lodge, shouting and gesticulating. He was giving orders which no one attempted to carry out. It seemed to me that every one had given him up as hopeless and left him. Anyway, though every one in the vast crowd of all classes, among whom there were gentlemen, and even the cathedral priest, was listening to him with curiosity and wonder, no one spoke to him or tried to get him away. Lembke, with a pale face and glittering eyes, was uttering the most amazing things. To complete the picture, he had lost his hat and was bareheaded. "'It's all incendiarism! It's nihilism! If anything is burning, it's nihilism!' I heard almost with horror; and though there was nothing to be surprised at, yet actual madness, when one sees it, always gives one a shock. "'Your Excellency,' said a policeman, coming up to him, 'what if you were to try the repose of home? . . . It's dangerous for your Excellency even to stand here.' "This policeman, as I heard afterwards, had been told off by the chief of police to watch over [Lembke], to do his utmost to get him home, and in case of danger even to use force – a task evidently beyond the man's power. "'They will wipe away the tears of the people whose houses have been burnt, but they will burn down the town. It's all the work of four scoundrels, four and a half! Arrest the scoundrel! He worms himself into the honor of families. They made use of the governesses to burn down the houses. It's vile, vile! Aie, what's he about?' he shouted, suddenly noticing a fireman at the top of the burning lodge, under whom the roof had almost burnt away and round whom the flames were beginning to flare up. 'Pull him down! Pull him down! He will fall, he will catch fire, put him out! . . . What is he doing there?' "'He is putting the fire out, your Excellency.' "'Not likely. The fire is in the minds of men and not in the roofs of houses. Pull him down and give it up! Better give it up, much better! Let it put itself out.'" In Dostoevsky's novel, that fire in the minds of men is not a yearning for liberty, but a nihilistic will to power that can only end in destruction. Put in George W. Bush's mouth, those words are not a paean to freedom, but a manifesto of pure destructionism. Like Governor Lembke, President Bush has no dearth of hardline advisers who counsel him in ways calculated to provoke a violent reaction: unlike Lembke, however, there is little chance George W. Bush will learn his lesson, even if it comes too late. The fiery imagery that pervades the text of Bush's second inaugural address is disturbing because it is so constant. He describes the course of history in the last fifty years, and "the shipwreck of communism," followed by "years of sabbatical" that ended in "a day of fire." The fiery prose heats up quickly, raising the rhetorical temperature to a fever pitch:
The flames leap up, as the mad Governor Lembke cries out. "It warms those who feel its power," avers the President, "it burns those who fight its progress." The revolutionary nihilists in Dostoevsky's novel, and those real-life nihilists in pre-revolutionary Russia on whom the characters were based, believed themselves to be agents of progress, destined by History to sweep away the old in the purifying flames of a great uprising that would be the prelude to a new world. A similar messianic sense of being on the right side of history pervades Bush's polemic: "History has an ebb and flow of justice, but history also has a visible direction set by liberty and the author of liberty." The Marxist and anarchist revolutionaries of Dostoevsky's day thought they saw history's "visible direction," although they did not ascribe to it an author. The Bushian innovation is to give his brand of revolutionism a theological theme, substituting God for History – but these are mere details. The central idea is the same: a worldwide revolutionary upheaval is needed to put the world right, and some men are anointed by history as redeemers. Hegel and his followers saw the Spirit of History in Napoleon as the French corporal liberated great swaths of 19th century Europe, and today the philosophers of regime change claim to see it in George W. Bush as he embarks on a campaign to "liberate" the Middle East. This is quite possibly the most worrisome and even frightening speech ever delivered by an American president. Its imagery of a fire burning up the world, coupled with the incendiary promise to aid "democratic reformers" against "outlaw regimes" worldwide, evokes the spirit of another murderous "idealism" – one that made the 20th century the age of mass murder. As he ranted on and on – "the expansion of freedom in all the world"; "Advancing these ideals is the mission that created our nation"; "When you stand for your liberty we will stand with you." – Bushed sounded more like Trotsky addressing the Red Army than an American president addressing his people. The militant, overtly ideological tone had about it a distinctly Bolshevik air: "Advancing these ideals is the mission that created our nation. It is the honorable achievement of our fathers. Now it is the urgent requirement of our nation's security and the calling of our time. So it is the policy of the United States to seek and support the growth of democratic movements and institutions in every nation and culture, with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world. ... "America will not pretend that jailed dissidents prefer their chains, or that women welcome humiliation and servitude, or that any human being aspires to live at the mercy of bullies." You have nothing to lose but your chains. All together now: "Arise, ye prisoners of starvation! To be sure, Bush's militant internationalism is leavened with appeals to "common sense" and national self-interest: "We are led by events and common sense to one conclusion" because "America's vital interests and our deepest beliefs are now one." It was that "day of fire," you see, that launched us on our messianic quest, and now imbues us with a sacred "mission" to "spread liberty" to the "dark corners of the earth." What this means, in plain language and in practice, is a foreign policy of perpetual war: "We will persistently clarify the choice before every ruler and every nation, the moral choice between oppression, which is always wrong, and freedom, which is eternally right." Translation: We will continue to launch wars of aggression against anyone who gets in our way. If you think Iraq is a big deal, you haven't seen anything yet…. For all the talk of "freedom" and "liberty" – Bush used the former 27 times, and the latter on 15 occasions – this president and his fanatic followers have been the very worst enemies of civil liberties on the home front. Bush has launched the most serious assault on the rights guaranteed by the Constitution since President John Adams imposed the Alien and Sedition Acts of 1798. And if Bush is bad, his followers are far worse. Tony Blankley, editor of the conservative – and party-line pro-Bush – Washington Times, wrote an editorial the other day demanding that Seymour Hersh be jailed for "espionage." By publishing an article that exposed the American plan to invade and conquer Iran, now being bruited about in the higher reaches of the Pentagon, Hersh is "aiding the enemy" by informing them of American troop movements. Hersh reported that American agents had already crossed into Iran to identify targets. Blankley claims that since this is "wartime," Hersh should be prosecuted and jailed, casually noting that the law provides for the death penalty in some cases. Quite aside from being quite wrong about the history and application of the laws against espionage, I wonder: since when are we at war with Iran? Although Blankley and his neoconservative comrades would no doubt dearly love to witness that eventuality, it hasn't happened yet. So the Iranians are not the "enemy," in spite of their membership in the "axis of evil." As a supplement to the Bush doctrine of preemptive war, Blankley has come up with a legal theory of preemptive prosecutions for espionage and even treason – jail them before war actually breaks out. What Lew Rockwell perceptively characterizes as "red-state fascism" is on the march, singing songs to "freedom" –and planting the seeds of authoritarianism in America. The ideas that drive Bush and today's Republicans exhibit all the classic features of fascist ideology, with a few homegrown innovations thrown into the mix: The cult of the Leader, the militarization and marriage of political and economic power, extensive surveillance of the citizenry, a strong tendency to criminalize public debate – as in brother Blankley's case – and, most important of all, a warlike foreign policy married to a messianic sense of mission, often rooted in religious ideas. This president believes that he, personally, has been assigned by God to perform a great task: that much has been clear from the beginning. What we didn't know for sure was whether he was going to turn back from the mad course he's embarked on in Iraq, and modify his divine ordination along more modest lines. Alas, the disease of second-term presidents – hubris – had infected this president and his advisers throughout the first four years. The fever shows no signs of subsiding: if anything, it is getting worse. George W. Bush is a man possessed – and God help us all if we fail to restrain him. – Justin Raimondo I'm trying to find that link for Martin Frost's ( DNC Chair candidate) story board ad. Fairly sure it was posted here. Does any one remember it or lay claim to posting it? I have scrolled all the way back to the messages on "New Thread" without finding it. "President Bush sprinted through the round of inaugural balls so fast Thursday night that one would have thought he left his limo's engine running in the parking lot. The Bushes twirled all of 1 minute, 6 seconds at their first dance. Kind of a waste of Laura's $20,000 gown and $700 hairdo, I would say. Here's a Kos Link:" http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/1/18/135033/194 Posted by: Carol on January 23, 2005 09:09 AMBrave Astroworlders... brace yourselves and check this out: http://www.indiemediamagazine.com/article.php?story=20050118055547492 Posted by: jm on January 23, 2005 09:36 AM
http://www.truthout.org/docs_05/printer_012305V.shtml Posted by: wv on January 23, 2005 10:34 AMWell, I did some further research into the missle from the above article, and there are problems with it, but I wonder what the truth is about our comparative military strength. Thanks Carol, Sorry to say, Johnny Carson died. A really great comedian Posted by: Sally on January 23, 2005 07:17 PM
Democrats 75% corrupt http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7804.htm Posted by: wv on January 23, 2005 07:55 PMwv - thanks for the link to the Robert Kennedy Jr article. I especially liked how he clearly defined why this is now a facist nation. I worked in Germany for 15 months in the mid-nineties and whenever Germans would say facism could happen anywhere, even the U.S. - I would say "On no - Americans are too independent - too free thinking." Boy - I wish I hadn't been so wrong! Posted by: SuzieLiberal on January 23, 2005 08:43 PM
http://www.truthout.org/docs_05/printer_012405X.shtml Posted by: wv on January 23, 2005 08:44 PMThis is moving around the internet fast, DailyKos already has it on their front page. Gonzales: Did He Help Bush Keep His DUI Quiet? Jan. 31 issue - Senate Democrats put off a vote on White House counsel Alberto Gonzales's nomination to be attorney general, complaining he had provided evasive answers to questions about torture and the mistreatment of prisoners. But Gonzales's most surprising answer may have come on a different subject: his role in helping President Bush escape jury duty in a drunken-driving case involving a dancer at an Austin strip club in 1996. The judge and other lawyers in the case last week disputed a written account of the matter provided by Gonzales to the Senate Judiciary Committee. "It's a complete misrepresentation," said David Wahlberg, lawyer for the dancer, about Gonzales's account. -more- http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6857224/site/newsweek/ Posted by: Laurie on January 23, 2005 09:52 PMBlankley reminds me of one of those characters in Dune. One of the bloated bad guys. Deflate him and he expires with a more than flatulent stench. Why do the good ones seem to go too soon. I will miss you Johnny. Johnny Carson last joked, something to this effect: Isn't it interesting about Bush, Kenny Boy has become Mr. Lay. God speed, Johnny. Posted by: Janet on January 23, 2005 10:14 PMCarson had been writing jokes for Letterman. Posted by: Pat C on January 24, 2005 02:34 AMthe unraveling begins. things are so very odd, so very often it's easy to let something pass that may be of great significance. big daddy bush's response to junior's speech is a truly amazing event. this just occured to me after catching up on the great contributions here. think about it. bush gives this bonkers speech about liberating the entire globe and so forth and the reaction is rapid. arch conservatives of the pre-bush era are calling him a screw ball. take paul craig roberts, a long time conservative figure: Americans have been betrayed. Sooner or later Americans will realize that they have been led to defeat in a pointless war by political leaders who they inattentively trusted. They have been misinformed by a sycophantic corporate media too mindful of advertising revenues to risk reporting truths branded unpatriotic by the propagandistic slogan, "you are with us or against us." What happens when Americans wake up to their betrayal? It is too late to be rescued from catastrophe in Iraq, but perhaps if Americans can understand how such a grand mistake was made they can avoid repeating it. http://www.vdare.com/roberts/050117_seduced.htm SO, YOU ASK,WHAT HAS THIS TO DO WITH BIG DADDY BUSH SAYING HIS SON'S SPEECH IS NOT A MAJOR SHIFT IN US POLICY. it is a shift and it's viewed by many as totally bonkers, many close to big daddy and in the corporate elite. big daddy to the rescue means junior has blown his cookies; he's officially over the edge; he is not making any sense; and he is OUT OF CONTROL. sure, there are neocons and staff who prop him up but he's now officially unacceptable. big daddy bush needs to step in to save the franchise. if junior goes down, it's all over for jeb and the rest of the crew, including george h.w. bush. the mere fact that junior is so far off the resevation and the father has to cover like this shows us all that we're quite a ways down the roat to the UNRAVELING. i epxect that the syncophant media will get its marching orders very soon and all those many scandals that have gotten little to no coverage will come to life. we are entering a very interesting and dangerous time. btw: watch for a cheney inditement. that would indicate the nixon scenario. knock out the odious #2 first (remember agnew taking cash in the vp's office), then get rid of the crazy #1. and they know, no one will tolerate denny hastert as president (hahahaha). Posted by: mike on January 24, 2005 07:54 AMMike, Trickle down does still exhist! Mike, from your keyboard to God's ears, I think you may be on to something there. What you said really makes sense. We are approximately 3 yrs. away from Plutos' entrance into Capricorn, and I just wonder how that is going to play out. Sure, we have the 30's to look at when Uranus did Aries against Pluto in Cancer. Is corporatism the new mafia? On a personal level, I am doing trans Pluto opp natal Jupiter and progressed Sun. Throw in the Chiron return, and you have old wounds, new wounds and how to consciously deal with emotional pain, etc. Long process here, but I am no longer stuffing the emotions. Which brings me to wonder about our current american culture where so much of our problems are stuffed down or buried, or denied by drugs, alcohol, TV, food, whatever. The resistance to what IS until it explodes in your face, yet the explosion clears out the blockages, and then you have to deal. Because in life it seems to me, no matter what, you eventually have to deal with the consequences to your actions, and that's on any level. I wish GWB had a clue in that direction. Doesn't look like it though, so yeah, watch his physical appearance. The stuff you deny appears somewhere. It's all energy. Despite our current culture, there are more and more people becoming conscious. It is as if one almost creates the other? Sigh, so much paradox. Thank you Sally and all Astroworlders for a wonderful place of intriguing discussion. Posted by: Shade on January 24, 2005 11:46 AM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,5110328-103677,00.html Posted by: wv on January 24, 2005 12:58 PM$700 haircut given by the woman who sat next to me for 5 days at my ashram. Not friendly. The spiritual teacher busted the cutter's ego by asking if the hairdresser was the one who gave one of the swamis a hairdo that made her look like George Washington? Good one. Daddy Bush and baby are in touch all the time by phone and email. Who do you think runs this country? Posted by: bhakti on January 24, 2005 01:41 PMAlthough I don't have it in front of me, that radical left, terrorist sponsored, Godless commie-pinko rag the Financial Times of London has on its front page an article detailing the rapidly increasing nervousness of foreign central banks re. continuing to hold huge stakes in U.S. dollars, and how they are increasing bailing out of the currency (bankers spoke under conditions of anonymity, I guess they don't want to end up waterboarding in Gitmo!) I wonder if the average American realizes that if China (yes, I know it needs us as its biggest export market but there are limits... ) gets disgusted enough with Bushco's insane greed and profligacy, and finally realizes the man himself might in fact now fit the definition of clinical insanity, it has the power to at best severely cripple, and at worst totally decimate the U.S. economy in one fell swoop by dumping huge amounts treasury notes. I don't think the inaugural speech vowing to interfere anywhere anytime to save everyone and anyone from tyranny helped either, ESPECIALLY when we are about to make an avowed torture propnent the new A.G. and are talking nonchalantly about locking up suspected terrorists for life with no due process as if this behavior was just another variation of business as usual. I think the next six months could be VERY INTERESTING indeed, and nothing would make me happier than seeing the whole crew in the dock at the Hague, with everone (Rumsfeld,Hadley, Libby, Although I don't have it in front of me, that radical left, terrorist sponsored, Godless commie-pinko rag the Financial Times of London has on its front page an article detailing the rapidly increasing nervousness of foreign central banks re. continuing to hold huge stakes in U.S. dollars, and how they are increasing bailing out of the currency (bankers spoke under conditions of anonymity, I guess they don't want to end up waterboarding in Gitmo!) I wonder if the average American realizes that if China (yes, I know it needs us as its biggest export market but there are limits... ) gets disgusted enough with Bushco's insane greed and profligacy, and finally realizes the man himself might in fact now fit the definition of clinical insanity, it has the power to at best severely cripple, and at worst totally decimate the U.S. economy in one fell swoop by dumping huge amounts treasury notes. I don't think the inaugural speech vowing to interfere anywhere anytime to save everyone and anyone from tyranny helped either, ESPECIALLY when we are about to make an avowed torture propnent the new A.G. and are talking nonchalantly about locking up suspected terrorists for life with no due process as if this behavior was just another variation of business as usual. I think the next six months could be VERY INTERESTING indeed, and nothing would make me happier than seeing the whole crew in the dock at the Hague, with everone (Rumsfeld,Hadley, Libby, BTW, so much for hubris. bhakti, I read the wonderful review of your work. But I didn't need the NYT to tell me that you're a 'true artist'!!! Blessings and Light to you. Posted by: Jo on January 24, 2005 02:26 PMAs for Poppy... who was involved w/ the CIA? The UN? Who was the third part of that holy trinity of Nixon, LBJ; Watergate; Iran Contra? Saudi Arabia... Carlyle Grp? Seems you can't find a mess on the map without finding his fingerprints. Whose former stoogies surround *? Whose mouthpiece stepped forth in 2000 to claim the sword for Rantsalot? And who tells Cheney what to tell the rest of us what the Chimp is thinking? Posted by: Jo on January 24, 2005 02:34 PMThat's wonderful bhakti! It's so great to be validated for you art! Congratulations my friend. You have given life to your dream. Posted by: Pat C on January 24, 2005 02:46 PMCongratualtions bhakti!!! As previous posters noted, you are self-defined and 'OWN' your gift no matter how others interpret this. Posted by: soulchild on January 24, 2005 03:10 PMSally, I have been in a strange mood these days, and haven't been posting much. I have read and reread this most beartiful and haunting article. I sit here in the audience you speak of, horrified, but hopeful. These are such strange times. The long hidden shadow has emerged and everyone can now see it. I guess that's the first step to change. The gods have raised them up high, and now they overstep. My only consolation is that he was not elected by the people, either time. There is hope for the people as a whole. The redneck, sheet wearing, dumb and a stump cave people have always and will always have a space in our human evolution, but they must not rule. That should be very clear now, to even the most stubborn. You have a gift for creating the psyco/visual story Sally. This is a powerful article. Thank you for sharing it with the internet world. Posted by: Pat C on January 24, 2005 03:24 PMMike I did notice that, but it wasn't just that isolated incident, this is on top of Scrowcroft and Baker's critical view of George Jr. Baker was on Larry King the night before and was less than excited about the war. There is a group above the Bushlite family (there is always someone above someone else) maybe it's the Illuminati or Bilderberger (sp?) but someone and there has been a power struggle over Jr. and maybe dad. However, with a critical Scrowcroft and Baker, Dad jumping to the rescue, George Soros, Warren Buffet and others throwing money at the left wing, Blair making gurgling noises about pulling troops out or not going forward into Iran, money being pulled out of this country, there is absolutely "something a foot" as they would say. Also China does not need us for trade, no one needs us for trade, certainly not as we are being moved to a third world country. We could not afford the goods from China anyway as the dollar keeps falling. I expect about a three or four month bump up in the dollar and then a huge fall. The other greedy meglomaniacs in the world are not going sit back and just give their booty away. Unlike the "sheep" they will not be willing to take the crumbs of power or money left over by Bush/Sharon and CO. Dad might be trying to "beg" the powers along to trust his son one more time. Posted by: Sally on January 24, 2005 04:03 PMhttp://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/week_2005_01_16.php#004505 Katherine Harris too? She may have stopped a free and fair election from taking place in Florida four years ago. But that isn't stopping Rep. Katherine Harris (R) of Florida for signing up for the Conscience Caucus. From Bloomberg News ... "I'm not sure I've heard a solution I've agreed with,'' said Harris, who as Florida's secretary of state played a central role in the vote-counting dispute in 2000 with her interpretation of the state's election laws. Harris, who was elected to the House in 2002, said last year she opposed creating the private accounts unless future benefits are guaranteed. ... Harris, who represents a district that contains one of the oldest populations in the U.S., said she was taking seniors' concerns into account. "I have a very close personal working relationship with the AARP,'' said Harris, who voted in favor of Bush proposals 94 percent of the time in 2004. During the 2004 campaign, Harris responded to an AARP questionnaire issued to Florida candidates by saying she ``opposes creating private individual accounts out of Social Security unless she can be assured that Social Security benefits will not be compromised in the future.''
..................................... http://news.independent.co.uk/world/environment/story.jsp?story=603752 Three years ago, the White House, at the urging of Exxon, had the chairman of the IPCC replaced with a go-slow oil-friendly candidate, Dr. Rajenda Pachauri. The Independent reports that Pachauri has now told an international conference that global warming has passed the point of danger which IPCC was formed to try to avoid. "Climate change is for real. We have just a small window of opportunity and it is closing rather rapidly. There is not a moment to lose." And even more clearly: "We are risking the ability of the human race to survive." ......................................... http://www.smirkingchimp.com/article.php?sid=160 From the Department of Truth Is Stranger Than Fiction From Kurt Vonnegut's "Breakfast of Champions", published in 1973: "[Kilgore Trout, the science fiction writer] wrote a story one time about an optimistic chimpanzee who became President of the United States. He called it 'Hail to the Chief.' The chimpanzee wore a little blue blazer with brass buttons, and with the seal of the President of the United States sewed to the breast pocket....Everywhere he went, .............................. Yesterday FOX NEWS had a segment all about the preznit's rock-bottom popularity rating and their anchor even said "it wasn't really much of a mandate." I quickly switched to the Weather Channel to see if the snowstorm was heading south from Washington to Hell. Posted by: Pat C on January 24, 2005 04:24 PMBhakti, When I went over to visit the kids in June, I took Matty Steponik's "Heart Songs" for my Grandson. When he ( s-i-l) came in from the city on Thurs night, he did a double take, Mattie's book had been on the coffee table in client's condo! wonderful news bhakti, congrats x 10! I hope your newly "legitimate realness" brings you legitimately real $$$, (not the U.S. in-the-toilet kind) Posted by: Peg on January 24, 2005 05:17 PMExcuse the ignorance but what did Poppy say? Somehow I missed it. As for the small world dept., the minute I read your post bhakti I was sure I knew who you were talking about. My partner works on films and when he did the film IQ he used to tell me stories about Meg Ryan's hairdresser. No one liked her, but he used to make me laugh when he'd tell me how she'd come out of her camper and scream about the noise, at the top of her lungs, at the rest of the crew who were actually working. She'd yell like a "fishwife", "I'm trying to meditate here!" I am in the process of moving to a new place, and I am so lost by some of the posts...what ashram, what hair dresser, and Bhakti...WHAT BOOK? Not to mention, what shift in shrub policy from daddy bush? I mean, I KNOW Brent Scowcroft abhores bushbaby, but was there some other signal I missed? not surprised....I have been watching decorating shows late at night instead of sitting out here in my cold cold room Posted by: Judi Gemini on January 24, 2005 06:00 PMI am in the process of moving to a new place, and I am so lost by some of the posts...what ashram, what hair dresser, and Bhakti...WHAT BOOK? Not to mention, what shift in shrub policy from daddy bush? I mean, I KNOW Brent Scowcroft abhores bushbaby, but was there some other signal I missed? not surprised....I have been watching decorating shows late at night instead of sitting out here in my cold cold room Posted by: Judi Gemini on January 24, 2005 06:00 PMTraitors to our country doing well! http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A31074-2005Jan23.html I'm still totally embarrassed and humiliated that * is still in power and that to the rest of the world, we all love him or something. Thank goodness for sites like sorryeverybody.com, etc. where we can show the world that we are sickened by our own leadership and hope for change. Bush's Widening Credibility Gap Bush's high-minded talk about freedom and democracy went over like a lead balloon in the Middle East, explains Beirut Daily Star editor Rami Khouri. The reaction would be different if Bush—and the United States in general—had a record of genuine support for self-determination and the development of democratic institutions in all nations. -more- Judi G, Pat QOP, I thought the lights had gone out in South Carolina when Lindsey Graham replaced Thurmond (we all believed Graham to be to the Right of Strom) --- but Dimwit makes Graham look like a liberal! Don't think the news here in SC is all bad, though. Pretty soon we'll have a school on every corner... a new one goes up everyday. 'course they're not public schools... those have gone to *&%^ --- they're those xtian academies, where the children don't have to be subjected to subjects like evolution or any of that science stuff. And the churches aren't going to sit on their duffs. No sir --- they offer high school bible courses. All in all, I would say the Fuhrer would be pleased with what we are accomplishing with our youth... and they in turn think the son rises and sets in him. Posted by: Jo on January 24, 2005 07:45 PMMike Rivero of WhatReallyHappened has this comment and background on Fox license renewal. See link following: For what is believed to be the first time ever, two television journalists have challenged the broadcast license of a station on grounds it deliberately broadcast false and distorted news reports. "This is an important story for all Americans to be aware of. To recap... Reporters Jane Akre and Steve Wilson produced a story for FOX News on the health issues associated with the use of Synthetic Bovine Growth Hormone in cattle. Monsanto, which makes the hormone, found out about the story and pressured FOX to bury the story, as did the dairy industry. Rather than risk losing ad revenues., FOX News ordered Jane Akre and Steve Wilson to change the story. They refused and FOX fired them. Jane Akre and Steve Wilson sued for wrongful termination and LOST when the court ruled that since there is no law that requires the mainstream media to tell the public the truth about anything, the media does have the legal right to fire reporters who refuse to lie. To send a clear message to other "uppity" reporters, the court then ordered Jane Akre and Steve Wilson to pay FOX News a million dollars in legal fees! Rather than just give up, Jane Akre and Steve Wilson have fallen back on an FCC requirement that TV stations must demonstrate operating in the best interests of the public to renew their license. Since FOX knowingly fired reporters for refusing to lie, that same court judgment that validated their right to fire reporters who will not lie now stands in the path of their license renewal." http://www.straightgoods.ca/ViewMediaFile5.cfm?REF=4
Mr. Integrity believes we should live "in Christ" http://www.theadvocate.com/cgi-bin/printme.pl Posted by: wv on January 24, 2005 08:11 PM
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3cc.htm Posted by: wv on January 24, 2005 08:13 PMHey favorite people, just wanted to stop in and say HI to all on my 42nd birthday(and a giant CONGRATULATIONS to our very own BHAKTI!!!)...light to Johnny Carson's family and if anyone wants to offer me some advice, I'll gladly accept it....I was born 1/24/63 in West TN(Jackson Madison County General Hospital) at 1:15 pm.....I'll check back in later, I have to go watch a film to get out of a traffic ticket(Happy Birthday to me, sigh....) love and light to all.....and TRUTH!!! Posted by: Garry on January 24, 2005 08:15 PM
http://news.ft.com/cms/s/9ef63678-6d7d-11d9-9b69-00000e2511c8.html Posted by: wv on January 24, 2005 08:23 PMPat C you crack me up "snowstorm moving south from Washington to Hell" It sure feels that way. Thanks for the kind words, they embarrass me actually. So even Fox is taking a second look, well at least a peek. Posted by: Sally on January 24, 2005 08:37 PMBhakti, Many, many congratulations. I'd love to see your book or at least the review. Can you tell me the same? Meanwhile, I'll go poke around the NYT website, but if someone has the link, I'd appreciate it. Posted by: Sharon on January 24, 2005 09:22 PMBhakti, Many, many congratulations. I'd love to see your book or at least the review. Can you tell me the same? Meanwhile, I'll go poke around the NYT website, but if someone has the link, I'd appreciate it. Posted by: Sharon on January 24, 2005 09:22 PMThought some of you may be interested in signing on.... Dear Friend, Senate Democrats open the 109th Congress steadfastly committed to keeping the promise of America, the promise that all Americans who work hard can build a stronger and brighter future for their families. By embracing and affirming our core values of security, opportunity and responsibility, Democrats are united to help America fulfill this promise. We need to show them our support. Cosponsor the Democratic Agenda by visiting: http://democrats.senate.gov/cosponsor-form.html Posted by: Morgana on January 24, 2005 09:28 PMMorgana, Please understand my comments are not directed to you, but to my own opinion about the Democrats and their agenda. I respect your wish to support them, but I cannot... not when they do not support Americans... not when they do not stand against this fascist regime. I supported the Democrats... and I supported the Democrats... I clicked on your link... and I clicked on the link to more info on their agenda, and the very first thing, on 'security' says: "It is the promise of security, that the American way of life and our freedom will be protected by using all the tools to take the fight to the terrorists and standing with those who have served. " I'm not going to support this agenda. Sounds like doublespeak for 'perpetual war' to me. "...take the fight to the terrorists!" to the Iraqi people? What have they done? The gov't said the same about the Viet Nam War "we are fighting there, so they will not be here, fighting in our streets." Check out Terry Whitehurst's piece on the clip the BBC ran the night of the Inaugural... showing Iraqi children screaming, covered with the blood of their parents, while riding in an automobile --- shot by American soldiers. http://www.antiwar.com/orig/whitehurst.php?articleid=4536 There is NO difference between the Republican and the Democratic agendas... that I can see from where I am... and imho, there is only one party in a fascist country. I am going to shut my mouth now because it is apparent that others on this board do not see the situation as I do. I will return to my lurking mode. Posted by: Jo on January 24, 2005 10:22 PM Jo - I agree with you about 100% I have been lurking on and off (mostly off) since the so-called election. Here's something I saw today that confirms what I was telling everyone before the selection, that at the top of the agenda would be a move to repeal the constitutional amendment limiting presidential term limits to two terms in a lifetime. Well, I was right. But the caveat is that the sponsor of such a move is none other than Slick Willy himself. http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/1/22/203903.shtml "Congressional Democrats will OK a constitutional amendment allowing naturalized citizens like California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger to run for president if Republicans help kill the 22nd Amendment." Now, not for a minute do I believe that Clinton intends to run again. But I believe that he's a stalking horse for the bushfascists. They're all a bunch of worthless shits - democrats and republicans alike - and we are *ucked. Posted by: Susan on January 24, 2005 10:57 PMHappy Birthday, Garry!! No astrological insight; I wish you health and happiness though. You share this day with my brother a fellow Tennessee resident. Posted by: soulchild on January 24, 2005 11:03 PMNo, please, Jo. I see it as you do. How dare they support the terrorist hoax? That's more dangerous than the so-called terrorist conspiracy. I haven't heard any mention of it lately from the administration... It's now a war on tyranny....and what happened to the terrorist alerts? I would suppert anyone at this point who just made sense. Posted by: jm on January 24, 2005 11:05 PMI'm noticing that, as of this past Friday, Jan. 22, when Neptune reached 14.33 Aquarius, I have begun to have mental blips AND become moody. I have Neptune in my 8th at 16.54 Aquarius and my moon in Leo at 17.57 conjunct Pluto at 18.21 Leo. I became very angry a few times (this could also be the mars/pluto conjunction coming into a square with my mars/venus at 22/24 Pisces). Today I'm a bit down. Not all of the time, but I have had a few incidences of just not thinking clearly and having trouble concentrating. Robert Hand suggested the aspect to Mercury would last almost a year and the aspect to Moon/Pluto, almost two. Interestingly, with the sun now in Aquarius but not transiting Mercury yet, I'm beginning to have a lot of business activity and possible real estate leads. I have had one transaction that's closing tomorrow that just was handed to me. I didn't have to do a thing but sign the paper work and attend the act of sale. We're also selling old furniture, buying new furniture, and renovating and repainting a bit (I'm really into choosing colors and decor). Maybe this Neptune transit is favorable to me because I have such a heavy Pisces stellum? I also feel a bit more nervous than usual. I have the feeling that I need more exercise in order to be centered and concentrate. Well, I'll keep on observing the effects, but I'd welcome any comments or feedback. Posted by: Sharon on January 24, 2005 11:27 PMAnother blip! I meant to wish Garry an amazing birthday and a year of wonder, good health and happiness. Garry, you are such a breath of fresh air and light here. You have a wonderful, bright and breezy touch and are so compassionate. Aquarius is such a great sign (as are they all). Sharon Posted by: Sharon on January 24, 2005 11:32 PMJo, JM, then I hope you took a moment to tell them exactly what you thought of their agenda, platform, and the state of our nation. I did. I suppose I choose to work within the system for change. I am not fleeing my country as many are doing. If we want the Democratic agenda to change then it is our voices that need to be heard. Posted by: Morgana on January 24, 2005 11:47 PMshade and sally, glad you liked the message (you too anonymous at 11:31AM). shade, i went through a couple of years of trans. pluto conjuct my jupiter (in the sixth). i can just imagine the opposittion. my experience involved a much deeper commitment to my work and the role i want to play. it was very positive in outcome but intense in experience. nothing bad happened (to speak of). hope the opposition works out. nancy, based on your prediction for the economy, i can see one silver lining. we'll have a new congress, democratic, in 2006. the economy going south will cause a shift like that of 1994. also, china does need us as do the europeans (since they're so heavily invested here). someone will step in like rubin and do one of those international fixes to make sure we don't totally tank. if we do, the whole world is broke because they hold our bonds! i've thought a bit more about the old-guard conservative revolt (paul craig roberts article link above, don't miss it!) and poppy stepping in. it's really wacky. the curse of bush (starting with prescott) may finally be lifted from america! Posted by: mike on January 25, 2005 12:03 AMWilliam Rivers Pitt just posted some amazing stuff: 1) dozens and dozens of the lies told to "justify" the invasion of Iraq; 2) painful pictures and statements from severely wounded GIs; and 3) an excerpt from a terrific article from a wholly unexpected source (American Conservative!). Posted by: shylurker on January 25, 2005 12:18 AMPoint taken, Morgana. I am fed up with the victim stance, and am just in the mood to understand and act upon the conviction that each individual has some power over her destiny. The Moken, the people who survived the tsunami, read the signs and calmly left the scene of danger, to return and rebuild when the destruction ended. They were taught to be aware of "the wave that eats people". They apparently controlled their fear and acted rationally. They said that they were a bit perturbed that the shaman didn't warn them earlier in his yearly forecast, but instinct and knowledge prevailed. To me, They teach that one can be protected within the chaos of a tempestuous environment.
Morgana, that is exactly right, "if we want change we need to make our voices heard" that is why I signed their petition because they gave me an opportunity to express my opinion of the platform, and I did. I will sign/send and take any chance I have to let them know we are out here and we want them to speak up and stand up. If they don't hear from us then our voice has no hope of breaking through their Washington Bubble Senator Boxer sent a thank you to all of those on the Internet who communicated with her. Apparently our voices had a great influence on her. Posted by: jm on January 25, 2005 01:00 AM********THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT************ WELL, HERE WE GO: "DEMOCRACY BEGINS AT HOME, S.17" This is our bill, it is one of the top 10 priorities of Democratic Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, D, NV. I'd like to sugest that everybody who cares about clean, fair elections write their Senators and contact Sen. Reid as well. IT'S STARTING. THIS IS THE CONCRETE PIECE OF LEGLATION THAT WILL LET US MOVE OUR MAIN ISSUE FORWARD -- REAL DEMOCRACY FOR AMERICA!!!!! Positive reinforcement is a huge factor, as we've seen with Senator Boxer and Rep. Conyers. http://reid.senate.gov/email_form.cfm My missive: I'm a big booster of yours among my cadre of avid Democrats and this initiative is right on target. Thank you. Posted by: mike on January 25, 2005 01:32 AMLatest from Senator Boxer: Last week, more than 70,000 concerned citizens like you came together to sign my petition and demand the truth from Condoleezza Rice. Your support emboldened me during Dr. Rice's confirmation hearings to ask the tough questions that Americans deserve to have answered. I can't thank you enough, and America can't thank you enough.
Barbara Boxer P.S. After forwarding our petition to everyone you know, be sure to call or email your Senators and encourage them to join us in Tuesday's debate. Americans deserve a full and open debate about Dr. Rice's confirmation, as well as the important issues like Iraq, the war on terrorism, and the use of torture that underlie her nomination.
Posted by: jm on January 25, 2005 02:05 AM Word is that Sen. Dayton of Minnesota is prepared to vote against appointments of Rice & Gonzales. You might want to email him your gratitude (and encouragement), also. Posted by: shylurker on January 25, 2005 02:29 AMThanks everybody for the kind good wishes. You are all so great! The hairdresser story cracked me up. Reported here earlier that yoga does not mean 'together' people. Happy Birthday Garry! Jo, Sorry Bhakti & Judi G, PQOP Posted by: Pat QOP on January 25, 2005 04:40 AMSorry, PQOP Posted by: on January 25, 2005 04:42 AMBhakti, what is the name of your book so I can look up the review? You may have mentioned it above or in previous threads, but I missed it. Posted by: Sharon on January 25, 2005 05:26 AMI'm going to post this article and then make some comments in a separate post below. Mon Jan 24, 3:11 PM ET By STEVE GUTTERMAN, Associated Press Writer MOSCOW - A group of nationalist Russian lawmakers called Monday for a sweeping investigation aimed at outlawing all Jewish organizations and punishing officials who support them, accusing Jews of fomenting ethnic hatred and saying they provoke anti-Semitism.
In a letter dated Jan. 13, about 20 members of the lower house of parliament, the State Duma, asked Prosecutor General Vladimir Ustinov to investigate their claims and to launch proceedings "on the prohibition in our country of all religious and ethnic Jewish organizations as extremist." The letter, faxed in part to The Associated Press by the office of lawmaker Alexander Krutov, said, "The negative assessments by Russian patriots of the qualities and actions against non-Jews that are typical of Jews correspond to the truth ... The statements and publications against Jews that have incriminated patriots are self-defense, which is not always stylistically correct but is justified in essence." The stunning call to ban all Jewish groups raised concerns of persistent anti-Semitism in Russia. Jewish leaders have praised President Vladimir Putin (news - web sites)'s government for encouraging religious tolerance, but rights groups accuse the authorities of failing to prosecute the perpetrators of anti-Semitic and racial violence. Russia's chief rabbi, Berel Lazar, said lawmakers were looking for support "by playing the anti-Semitic card." The prosecutor general's office could not immediately be reached for comment on the letter, which the Interfax news agency said was signed by lawmakers from the nationalist Rodina and Liberal Democratic parties as well as the Communist Party. Krutov, a Rodina member, is deputy chief of the Duma's Committee on Information Policy. With Putin planning to join events this week commemorating the liberation of the Auschwitz concentration camp by Soviet troops, Russia's Holocaust Foundation head Alla Gerber said it was "horrible that as we're marking the 60th anniversary of this tragic and great day ... we can speak of the danger of fascism in the countries that defeated fascism." While the Russian state itself is no longer anti-Semitic, there are "anti-Semitic campaigns that are led by all sorts of organizations," she said. "The economic situation is ripe for this. An enemy is needed, and the enemy is well-known, traditional," Gerber said. Echoing anti-Semitic tracts of the Czarist era, the letter's authors accuse Jews of working against the interests of the countries where they live and of monopolizing power worldwide. They say the United States "has become an instrument for achieving the global aims of Judaism." "It is possible to say that the entire democratic world today is under the monetary and political control of international Judaism, which high-profile bankers are openly proud of," the letter says. Along with outlawing Jewish organizations, the lawmakers call for the prosecution of "individuals responsible for providing these groups with state and municipal property, privileges and state financing." Posted by: Dave on January 25, 2005 07:08 AMOnce again, facism is on the rise, now in Russia. I think the world experienced something similar to what we are going through right now back in the 1930's. Fascism and authoritarianism are clearly on the rise, both at home and abroad. The USA, Russia, Islam, Christianity, Israel, China, the Middle East, and elsewhere, we are once again witnessing the rise of fascism coupled with the discrediting of democratic capitalism. It seems at times as if there is no where to turn, as if the whole world is slowly moving away from the liberal ideals of equality, tolerance, fairness, justice, and peace. I urge each of you, in the next few years, not to see beyond the trees to the entire forest of what is happening. Posted by: Dave on January 25, 2005 07:15 AMSharon, I am private for obvious reasons. Well my hotmail.com still won't load today! Subject: The 14 warning signs of fascism http://www.bushflash.com/14.html And what subgroup of human becomings always like to "do" fascism??! The same one... every time. They need to be rounded up into psych units across the globe & given very strong meds... oh, & make sure they don't reproduce. Gaia cannot stand another cycle of wholesale violent acting-out from these boyz imo... not with their latest kill-toyz. Posted by: JoannaOregon on January 25, 2005 02:43 PMYes WV, America at present achieves all 14 marks of fascism. Warning: the clip linked above will bring tears to your eyes. For contrast to our 'business as usual' after Nov. 2: the Orange Revolution (as the folks in the Ukraine denote their response to a fraudulent election) and the Spanish reaction to the events of March 11th. Posted by: Jo on January 25, 2005 02:47 PMOophs - neglected to post link with photos on Orange Revolution, submitted by a young person in the Ukraine who participated in the 17 day event. http://www.theorangerevolution.com/orangerevolution.html Posted by: Jo on January 25, 2005 02:53 PM* Violence and hatred in Russia's new skinhead playground - Fascism is vilified in Russia after the sacrifices the nation endured to defeat Nazi Germany. But a racist skinhead culture is on the rise - & it is becoming increasingly vicious, reports Andrew Osborn Skinheads may be a British invention but when it comes to sheer numbers, levels of violence/hatred of foreigners a damning new report suggests Russia has become the bovver boys' blood-soaked new playground. It may be a country that vilifies fascism more than any other & arguably had to make the most appalling sacrifices to defeat Nazi Germany [a mere] 60 yrs ago but this is where skinhead culture has taken hold like nowhere else. Driven by crushing poverty, a lingering sense of humiliation after the collapse of the Soviet Union & outrage over Chechen separatist terror attacks, Russia's skinheads are becoming increasingly organised, increasingly violent & increasingly numerous. A report claims Russia's youth is embracing the very ideology their grandparents fought against so implacably to the point where Russian skinheads, or britogolovy, now account for almost half the world's "skins". Adhering to a unique blend of neo-Nazi ideology & rabid Russian nationalism, Russian skinheads are among the most violent, & have staged a wave of savage attacks on non-Russians & children as young as five in the past year, leaving many of their bleeding victims to die slowly. ... con't http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/story.jsp?story=604279 Posted by: JoannaOregon on January 25, 2005 03:15 PMDId you know the EU has trade sanctions against the US? ( well they are being lifted I think, depends on a technical law finding) A lunch time laugh, to remove ( temporarily) the sting of the posts above. Did Coleman pay for surgery the day his cosmetic work was reported? http://www.bluelemur.com/index.php?p=575 Posted by: pat qop on January 25, 2005 06:18 PMMolly Ivin on the inaugural speech Paul Krugman's latest [I want to thank whoever first mentioned PK here, because he is great.]
http://www.truthout.org/docs_05/printer_012605Y.shtml Posted by: wv on January 25, 2005 08:53 PMListening to Air America today was interesting....Sen. Mark Dayton of MN stood up and called the administration liars....and Kennedy continued his attacks....I hope this virus spreads. Posted by: judi gemini on January 25, 2005 09:22 PMI've been trying to access Barbara Boxer's web site.....no luck. She is most likely getting lots of response! Everyone needs to call and write. This Mars/Pluto conjunction is heating things up. The Iraqi election comes right on it....whew...! Posted by: judi gemini on January 25, 2005 09:35 PMThe Coronation Viewed from Israel... http://207.44.245.159/article7817.htm Posted by: wv on January 25, 2005 10:17 PMHey JoannaOregon, It's sad that skinheads are taking over, but not all skinheads are racist. The original skinheads of the seventies were about working-class issues that isolated a large group of English youth, especially increased during the (yuck!!) Thatcher/Reagan "hate the poor" decade. Unfortunately, racists who were against Asian immigrants in England used it to spur racist violence, because working-class native's felt they were an economic threat. It's sad isn't it. I really beleive that what the Bu** admin. is creating is a new form of fascism, not built of race, but built of some "Ayn Randian" materialist objectivism meets protestant fundamentalism. Objectivism's extreme materialism easily goes well with the Protestant work-ethic and the over concern for money as proof of divine salvation. Just had to say it. Thanks. Posted by: Travis on January 25, 2005 10:18 PM
http://207.44.245.159/article7818.htm Posted by: wv on January 25, 2005 10:23 PMSally, Thanks again for this article, for your good advice and kind words. Best wishes to all during the Mars/Pluto conjunction. Posted by: Sharon on January 26, 2005 12:35 AMGEORGE BUSH AND THE RISE OF CHRISTIAN FASCISM Rev. Rich Lang The men who wrote the Constitution of the United States knew that we human beings have a tendency to 'not get along with each other'. They knew that if power accrued into the hands of an elite the experiment of democracy (power spread out into the realm of the people) would be over. So they created a system of checks and balances which blocked access to any one person, or any one special interest or elite gaining too much power over others. Thus our executive, legislative and judicial branches of government "checked" each other. The media was yet another "check" on the accrual of too much power as was the Bill of Rights which was written into the Constitution. The system wasn't perfect but it kept alive the possibility of true democracy. It kept alive the dream that one day "we the people" could live in a peaceful commonwealth where every person has what they need to survive and thrive. That dream died in December 2000 when the checks and balances of our Constitution collapsed and George Bush was inserted into the Presidency of the nited States. September 11, 2001 furthered the atrophying of democracy handing the country into the hands of an emerging Corporate (and I say Christian) Fascism. CONTINUED~ http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/Lang_BushAndTheRiseOfChristianFascism.html
Just got off Cspan. Listened to Senator Byrd's carefully delineated speech against the behavioral qualifications of Condi's appointment as Sec. of State. He's very deliberate. One of statements that warmed the cockles of my heart is that he made clear the job of the Senate is to advise and consent the appointments of the President. That the Senate has a very serious job to do here as delineated by our Constitution...that this is not to be characterized, as some have recently, as an opportunity the Democrats are using just to negate this Administration. He also hammered into the illegality of the preemptive strike. He is a classicist par excellence. He tore into the ruptured system of checks and balances, he judged Ms. Rice by her behavioral record, and he remained on point for about 30 or so minutes. Posted by: Beasley on January 26, 2005 02:25 AMWell I feel good about things tonight. Although there are certainly other charts and aspects to be considered I feel that the following indicate a time period that deserves intense scrutiny. All charts located in Washington, DC. All measurements made in right ascension. ATTACK ON IRAQ, Mar 19, 2003, 9:35 PM, EST Transiting Saturn is opposite Uranus/Pluto Monday, May 30 opposite Mars/Neptune Thursday, June 9 square Saturn/Uranus Thursday, June 9
Transiting Saturn is opposite Mars/Uranus Saturday, June 4 opposite Midheaven Wednesday, June 8 square Sun/Saturn Wednesday, June 22
Transiting Saturn is conjunct Saturn (non-precessed) Saturday, June 18 conjunct Saturn (precessed) Friday, June 24 bob Posted by: bob on February 3, 2005 01:29 AMYou are so right Bob about the Saturn aspects, the other thing I have not been able to dismiss is how many late degree cardinal signs this administration has in their charts. The same time period you are talking about also has a Uranus kicker, with Uranus squaring the US Natal Uranus and oppose GWB progressed Sun and Natal Mars. I am not sure what to make of all the late degrees Cardinal signs in this administration and in Tony Blair's chart, I don't know if they manage to completely shut down the US into total restriction or if the Saturn oppose US Pluto proves to be their downfall Posted by: Sally on February 3, 2005 06:30 AMJust to be flippant for a moment: http://www.trulytranny.net/teenrider/ Please erase this message and you'll never see our ad AGAIN.
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