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An Analysis of Election 2004
By Robert Wilkinson This article will combine astrological approaches and political This article will combine astrological approaches and political realities. I use the Dixville Notch chart as the inception of the
Many other astrologers have focused on JFK's transits, so I won't do them The big deal, of course, is that George Bush is going through his Saturn Even though it is possible to push to high achievement at the Saturn Mars is aggravation/activation. His Mars' return in August gave a boost to I am not overjoyed with Bush's transits at the election. The Sun is On to political factors and several important things to remember. The major Another important thing to remember is the Incumbent Rule (article at There are problems with massive voter disenfranchisement attempts in key There are already many suits filed in courts all over the country by both That's why getting out the vote is the most important thing. Many polls There is a huge early vote turnout, assumed overwhelmingly Dem. The Repubs Another factor is consumer confidence, which has fallen three straight One thing to remember is that taking back the Senate is crucial to any There is no chance in this election for the Democrats to take back the (This is where I ended the original post. Since this is reposted, I'll There is one last significant factor which you may not know about that made Punch line: According to MyDD and Real Clear Politics, Bush has lost Maine, A brief bio: I have been a professional astrologer, metaphysician, author,
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Sounds like good news to me, and I must express my thanks and delight for all the great work Sally and Morgana and Isabelle and all of you are doing to keep our spirits up, our outlook positive, and the light glowing around us and our chosen ones! Posted by: Baraka on October 29, 2004 01:13 AM
There is one last significant factor which you may not know about that made me smile. Believe it or not, the kid’s poll from the Nickelodeon channel has accurately picked every presidential winner since 1988. In 2000, they backed Bush by 55%. This year, 400,000 kids responded to the poll, and 57% backed Kerry. The kid’s vote is a good indicator, since Nick viewers tend to mirror the same outlook as their parents. Punch line: According to MyDD and Real Clear Politics, Bush has lost Maine, NJ, Oregon, and Washington. Florida, Michigan, Minnesota, NH, and Pennsylvania will all go Kerry if the current numbers hold and "undecideds" keep breaking as they have. Kerry also has a good shot at taking Wisconsin, NM, and maybe an election day surprise of possibly Iowa, Arkansas or Tennessee. This puts Kerry way over 300 electoral votes. Unless a “terrorist attack” happens on American soil and elections are postponed, suspended, or placed under martial law, or Karl Rove is able to get the Supremes to do another “one time only judgment,” America will elect John Kerry as our next prez. Unfortunately, like Gore, the trick will be getting him inaugurated. And it will take a while to sort it all out in the courts. This means that “Tecumseh’s Curse” is dead, or so it seems. Robert Wilkison, a hearty welcome. Thanks for your insightful and hopeful astrological and political analysis. At a time when many of us are cautiously optimistic about a Kerry win, it nice to know that the planets may be supported of our wish. Also, this country needs to exhale, too much negative energy from Bush & Co. Thanks again. Posted by: Janet on October 29, 2004 01:30 AMApologies Robert for mispelling your last name, a squared Mercury is my fate. :) Posted by: Janet on October 29, 2004 01:34 AM
Welcome, Mr. Wilkinson. I greatly enjoyed your article. I had a wonderful moment of clarity last night and knew without a doubt that when we hear next Tuesday night that Kerry has taken Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan and Wisconsin, he'll be the President. Bush could even get Florida at that point, but, Electorally, it won't matter. And don't forget the weird shenanigans in Kentucky with Sen. Bunning(R) and his Challenger Mongiardo(D). I suspect we'll pick up that seat as well as, although they can put up with a lot from their politicians in Kentucky, I believe someone being mentally incapable of leading -- as Bunning apparently is -- is one thing they'll take a Pass on. By this time next week will have a new President Elect John Kerry! And the American People this time around won't quietly put-up with a sore loser Bush trying to change it through the Courts to make it a "win" for him. Back in 2000, he was just a nice, seemingly "likeable" guy. After 4 years of watching jobs leave, debts pile up, the World grow to hate us, and he and his Surrogates try to scare us into supporting him no matter what, I think We know better and just want him out. It feels longer than four years, doesn't it? :-) Posted by: Jonathan on October 29, 2004 01:45 AM
http://politicalphysics.typepad.com/my_weblog/2004/10/the_latest_on_t_1.html#more Posted by: wv on October 29, 2004 02:14 AM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,5050397-103550,00.html Posted by: wv on October 29, 2004 02:52 AMI very much enjoyed this article, Robert, thank you for sharing it with us, and I will definitely check out your site. I am constantly amazed by the talents represented on this site, and knowing you are a fellow metaphysician brings me great pleasure. Did anyone read Risa D'Angeles site yet? She helped me alot today, so I will post some of my favorite parts for anyone else who might enjoy esoteric astrology: After El Dia de los Muertos (Day of the Dead) and All Saints Day when the world shimmers with ghosts, goblins and strange Presences from the etheric (other) side of life, it is time once again for the presidential elections Tuesday, Nov. 2nd. Called by pollster John Zogby the "Armageddon election" due to our having "divided ourselves into two equal warring nations," it is difficult for anyone to predict the winner -- the Tin Man or the Scarecrow (referring to Zogby's Wizard of Oz poll several weeks ago where the Tin Man won). Along with Cancer Moon, sign of the United States natal Sun, Bush's Sun and the star Sirius where love, liberty and freedom originate, there are many astrological variables and cosmic realities affecting this election. What are they? First, the US progressed Sun enters Pisces (after thirty years in Aquarius) on Election Day. Sun in Pisces creates an atmosphere of both confusion and innocence. It also presents a situation in which last minute voters instinctively change their minds without understanding why. Second, the October eclipses brought turbulence and major changes and their outcomes, still in the future, are complex. We will understand our choice for president only in retrospect. Third we are living in a time of terrorism and worldwide violence. Whoever is elected president will have to be of the warrior class to withstand the coming turbulent times. We know who the warriors presently are. Fourth, we are living in two ages, Pisces and Aquarius, simultaneously, and thus two different stages of reality are apparent. The religious aspect of Bush's presidency reflects the Ray 6 (Pisces Age of faith) era humanity is now leaving. (Ray 6 is being withdrawn.) The intelligence of Kerry's campaign reflects Rays 5 & 7 (Aquarian knowledge) of the incoming culture and civilization. (Ray 7 is now streaming in.). Rays, influencing every aspect of life on Earth, originate from the stars in the Big Dipper. The Rays are our Creator Gods. Because both candidates represent different developmental stages of humanity, it must therefore be acknowledged that both Bush and Kerry are correct for each of the two groups they represent. The question is whether humanity and the United States are prepared for the Aquarian (Ray 7) agenda which Kerry (Amy Goodman, Jim Hightower to name a few) represents. It's entirely possible that we are not. Therefore, we will need to tend to the Pisces (US Sun enters Pisces on Election Day), or Ray 6 agenda in order to plan for the newer progressive realities at a future time. What are the Ray 6 agendas occurring today? Ray 6 streams through Mars, planet of war, terrorists, fanaticism and religion. If it is true that we must still work within the Ray 6 agendas, then we will need a president and his advisors who represent the warrior class. This is, of course, George Bush. The Ray 6 group of humanity must uphold all that has gone before including corporate and business practices and the distribution of wealth among the very few. This group also is the warrior class. The Ray 7 group has a more peaceful vision for a future of Goodwill to all, which includes national health care and a more equalized distribution of the wealth and resources. The Ray 7 group is not the warrior class. They are humanists, progressives, the thinking public, with intentions based primarily on Goodwill and Unanimity. After the votes are counted, it will be interesting for us to see to which group most of humanity (or those who voted) belongs. A few comments form Neale Donald Walsch CwG Weekly Bulletin #116: Politics: Your Spirituality Demonstrated Good to "see" and hear from you again, Jonathan. You summed the situation up very succinctly, as you usually do. Posted by: shylurker on October 29, 2004 04:56 AMWell written, interesting article Robert Wilkerson. Welcome to Sally's Salon. Posted by: Pallas18 on October 29, 2004 05:35 AMSharon Katz, I took the letter you posted from Hadar Susskind over to Kerry HQ - J Outreach. It wowed them. We Your signs and wires were received at Kerry HQ in If you and your husband are coming, a friend of mine and her husband, close by, will put you up - and we'll have some time to chat, meet...you can do phone work, drive around with me putting out flyers and signs, or go with J Outreach canvassing there's plenty to do if you want to come...and if Post here or under the new subject by Robert and I'll look for your post, tomorrow afternoon as to what you are doing and we can figure out how to meet up. We have Fri, Sat, Sun, Mon yet. It looks like Kerry, Kerry, Kerry in Florida - overwhelmingly - A Kerry win, but does he take office? If he doesn't Edwards could....after a confrontation with the "powers". The bushistas have gotten very very aggressive at the polling/voting places. Believe it or not they are proselytizing to the Kerry campaigners. I told them let's agree to disagree, you want Bush and I want Kerry to win....and not discuss it any further. Then a republican EVANGELIST lawyer came out, and I'm not sure if he knew what hit him, whether he was in shock, or just surprised at the things I knew and spoke of...but his efforts to convert me to Bushista certainly failed.. :) It certainly has not been and will not be a dull I have no doubt they will try many ways to steal this election too....people are not fooled by the fact that they have to wait three hours in the hot sun to vote - because Theresa LePore has not put out enough machines. They know it is a ploy to discourage voters! By the way, Governor Dukakis' son is even down here in Delray HQ helping out. It'll be amazing to see who turns up next!!! You can not know what a busy bee hive that office is - when you walk in you see 40 men and women on phones...others doing other things...graphs, charts, signs on the walls.... And P.S. - poor Ed Koch was here yesterday. When he didn't like a question from the audience he told them to shut up...many people got up and walked out...one fellow was asking questions and a republican tackled him to shut him up...I was told by reporters that the tackler was handcuffed and taken away ----pretty disgraceful. Someone said they wished the repugnants would send Koch out more, it could only be good for the dems. :) Did someone say there was a Full Moon out?? Posted by: Pallas18 on October 29, 2004 05:42 AMGreat article Robert, but when I put it up I think I mangled your site, please email me because I have an idea on fixing it. Jonathan, your vision sent me into hysterics as I thought about Kerry winning every state except Florida and Bush would get that, so that when all is said and done all he ends up with is a stolen Florida. Somehow the irony of that thought makes me laugh. Posted by: Sally on October 29, 2004 06:50 AM************ but seriously, actually that was me being sereious so here is the pose. i've got a message for Neale baby of talking to god fame. if you really do this, you know have a hotline to the big person (PC), then how in the name of sweet jeebus can you say: "Whichever candidate you support, God bless you and get out there and VOTE!" neale baby, didn't god tell you that we've killed 100,000 iraqi CIVILIANS (good link wv). if god didn't tell you that, he/she should be called "the person formerly known as god" because she/he is missing an important fact. if god did tell you this and you still says "whichever candidate you support, god bless you" then, sadly Neale, you are an ass. NO MORE FALSE PROPHETS (the "lost prophets" are ok though) NO MORE PEOPLE "TALKING TO GOD" WHO COME BACK AND SAY IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU VOTE FOR A GUY WHO WANTS PEACE OR A WAR CRIMINAL WHO KILLS INNOCENTS. neale, you've demonstrated that you're not doing and have not what you say you do. or as the book says, now, repeat after me neale: "we have done those things we ought not to have done, and we have not done those things which we ought to have done, and there is no health in us." you in particular neale for fronting a god who fails to note the difference between kerry and bush!!! Posted by: mike on October 29, 2004 07:12 AMNice to hear the appreciative words for Madison my home town and where Iam now. Missed Kerry however I could hear the roar of the crowd from I was at the time. Heard where Kerry was told by someone last year tht he had about as much chance of winning the presidency as of the Boston Redsox winning the world series. Or it was something like you wont be president till Boston wins the series. Ah yes the river Charles... " how I love that dirty water, Boston thats my town, Boston thats my town" I wonder if the chart for Boston shows that they would have the superbowl champion win the world series and have the senater that represents them be elected president all in the same year? Its possible after all the fifth house rules both politics and sports.The significater for their sports teams would be the same as for their big guy poltician. I hope I can get this link right. Found this on the commentarty section for Kerrys chart at Apparently some of the most famous mundane Indian astrologers all agree that kerry will win and that bush cannot win. This is reasureing as these guys are in a category when it comes to prediction that western astrolgers can only dream about http://www.newindpress.com/news.asp?id=iel20041028001822 Pallas18, not only should they send Koch out more often, they should also send Guilliani out too. He publicly accused the troops for not securing the weapons. Hey Jonathan, good to have you back, always interesting posts. Posted by: Janet on October 29, 2004 12:56 PMWelcome Robert Wilkinson, your website has been bookmarked by me and I check into it . I hope the whole world gets the real true view of Rude Rudy Guiliani (Ghouliani, Bullyani, Gooniani) who I've ranted about for years on AW. Now his true colors are flying. Defending the * by blaming the troops. Way to Go! He just blew his future political career. We here in NYC disliked him and he milked 9-11 for all he could squeeze out of it. Thank you Robert Wilkinson for your very fine article... and we await with bated breath your conclusion today? tomorrow? Salon has article and pictures, re that bulge in shrub's shirt: ---------------- NASA photo analyst: Bush wore a device during debate - - - - - - - - - - - - Oct. 29, 2004 | George W. Bush tried to laugh off the bulge. "I don't know what that is," he said on "Good Morning America" on Wednesday, referring to the infamous protrusion beneath his jacket during the presidential debates. "I'm embarrassed to say it's a poorly tailored shirt." Dr. Robert M. Nelson, however, was not laughing. He knew the president was not telling the truth. And Nelson is neither conspiracy theorist nor midnight blogger. He's a senior research scientist for NASA and for Caltech's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, and an international authority on image analysis. Currently he's engrossed in analyzing digital photos of Saturn's moon Titan, determining its shape, whether it contains craters or canyons. For the past week, while at home, using his own computers, and off the clock at Caltech and NASA, Nelson has been analyzing images of the president's back during the debates. A professional physicist and photo analyst for more than 30 years, he speaks earnestly and thoughtfully about his subject. "I am willing to stake my scientific reputation to the statement that Bush was wearing something under his jacket during the debate," he says. "This is not about a bad suit. And there's no way the bulge can be described as a wrinkled shirt." More at link http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/10/29/bulge/index.html
KM, You will be interested in this one, I am sure: The looting of Iraq's arsenal - - - - - - - - - - - - Oct. 29, 2004 | When I read last Sunday's New York Times story of the missing explosives from the Iraqi weapons storage facility south of Baghdad at Al Qaqaa, it brought back memories from my time with the Army National Guard's 223rd Military Intelligence Battalion in Iraq last year. Bad memories. In the Times story, Iraqi scientists who worked at Al Qaqaa described how the facility was looted of almost 400 tons of high explosives right after the American troops swept through the area in April 2003 and failed to secure the site. But Al Qaqaa is not the whole story. The same month it was being looted, I learned of another major weapons and ammunition storage facility, near my battalion's base at Camp Anaconda, that was unguarded and targeted by looters. But despite my repeated warnings -- and those of other U.S. intelligence agents -- nothing was done to secure this facility, as it was systematically stripped of enough weapons and explosives to equip anti-U.S. insurgents with enough roadside improvised explosive devices, or IEDs, for years to come." http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/10/29/anaconda/ Posted by: Jo on October 29, 2004 02:00 PMKM, and others of you interested in this topic, Josh Marshall of TPM has a lot to say about it, particularly about Aaron Brown of CNN trying to get to the facts, while others at CNN are trying just as hard to put forth the White House version. http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/ Posted by: Jo on October 29, 2004 02:07 PMI'll be doing phone bank at local Dem Hdqtrs next four days, up to closing of polls Tuesday at 7:00 pm. Those of you with ANY time, esp. after work when folks are returning home in the evening, please check to see if your local Dem hdqtrs needs help GOTV... the polls are indicating a tight race, with some leaning toward Kerry and others fully giving it to Kerry... however, we all know how important the turnout is... GOTV is the key to Nov. 3 finding Kerry the winner... if you can only give a few hours that is great. Also, the lines are discouraging for some people and difficult for others who are older or perhaps have a physical disability. Some Kossacks are suggesting volunteers work the lines passing out bottled water, folding chairs, smiles, nonpolitical literature... you get the idea... think locally... light to John-John, light to all who are in harm's way... light to our planet... Sally, Thank you for this refuge... this source of calm. And for all the effort you undergo to break so many wonderful people and their opinions and their support in the form of their writings. These days are difficult indeed... your contribution is great and much appreciated. Go Sally, Go Sally! Light to you, and blessings. Posted by: Jo on October 29, 2004 02:15 PMsorry for the slip above... meant 'bring' not 'break'!! Freudian I'm sure! would like to break up the GOP hold on this country... also, ask your local Dems what they are doing to protect the voting rights of African-Americans... are they posting volunteers to deal with the intimidation by the Repug thugs? don't assume this only happens in 'big city precincts' or swing states... it is happening EVERYWHERE... Posted by: Jo on October 29, 2004 02:21 PM
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2004/10/29/notes102904.DTL&type=printable Posted by: wv on October 29, 2004 03:43 PMgreat article!!! Thanks Sally et al.!!!! this is happening next Monday, Nov. 1st......namaste, white/blue light/truth to all.... From the believe it or not department: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041028/ap_on_fe_st/toy_store_homeland_security Homeland Security Agents Visit Toy Store Thu Oct 28, 5:20 PM ET ST. HELENS, Ore. - So far as she knows, Pufferbelly Toys owner Stephanie Cox hasn't been passing any state secrets to sinister foreign governments, or violating obscure clauses in the Patriot Act. So she was taken aback by a mysterious phone call from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security to her small store in this quiet Columbia River town just north of Portland. "I was shaking in my shoes," Cox said of the September phone call. "My first thought was the government can shut your business down on a whim, in my opinion. If I'm closed even for a day that would cause undue stress." When the two agents arrived at the store, the lead agent asked Cox whether she carried a toy called the Magic Cube, which he said was an illegal copy of the Rubik's Cube, one of the most popular toys of all time. He told her to remove the Magic Cube from her shelves, and he watched to make sure she complied. After the agents left, Cox called the manufacturer of the Magic Cube, the Toysmith Group, which is based in Auburn, Wash. A representative told her that Rubik's Cube patent had expired, and the Magic Cube did not infringe on the rival toy's trademark. Virginia Kice, a spokeswoman for Immigration and Customs Enforcement, said agents went to Pufferbelly based on a trademark infringement complaint filed in the agency's intellectual property rights center in Washington, D.C. "One of the things that our agency's responsible for doing is protecting the integrity of the economy and our nation's financial systems and obviously trademark infringement does have significant economic implications," she said. Six weeks after her brush with Homeland Security, Cox told The Oregonian she is still bewildered by the experie Posted by: Pat C on October 29, 2004 04:08 PMPallas 18, I'm thrilled about the Hadar Suskind Letter. Maybe it is possible to share the letter with Kerry HQ in Broward? As you know, they have a huge Jewish population who do not have this imformation. Same goes for Miami Beach & N. Miami Beach/N. Miami. I'm so glad the signs have arrived and I can only thank you from the bottom of my heart for your endudance, passion and very hard work. I know all are working towards the same goal. Some are doing more physically than others, but You, my dear, are one of the heroines of this campaign. Thank you also (and your friends) for the gracious invitation to put us up. Pensacola is a only 4 hr drive but as of now, we'd have no place to stay. Would you please email me at Shar@myron.gs.net? If you send me your cell phone number, I can track you down. Jo, thank you for phone banking. Thank you everyone for all that you/we are doing. Let's do everything that we can. Meanwhile, another bit of GOOD NEWS - New York Daily News-What Zogby tells me:Kerry WINS Pollster John Zogby, in a telephone interview with me yesterday, predicted that John Kerry will win the election. "It's close," he said, "but in the last couple of days things have been trending toward Kerry - nationally and in the swing states. Between this and history, I think it will be Kerry." When Zogby talks, politicians listen. He made his bones in the Bill Clinton-Bob Dole election of 1996, when he came within one-tenth of a percentage point of the final tally. Bet me that when the Bushies read what Zogby told me, not just the rhetoric will rise, but so will the fever. Particularly since one of their favorite columnists, Robert Novak, reported in yesterday's Washington Post that Zogby called the race for President Bush in a conversation he had with the pollster on Monday. Zogby was jocular about the Novak column, although he has decided not to post a comment on his Web site. Here's what he told me: "I said Bush was winning, I didn't say I thought he'd win. On Monday, he was indeed looking good. But on Tuesday, things changed. Kerry, in that one day, picked up 5 points." http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/247447p-211694c.... As far as Neale Walsh goes, Mike, I have read the books and gleaned that G-d seems to have the principle of bestowing unconditional love & wisdom but also has a non-judgmental, hand-off policy as we are responsible for creating our own world. All the same, I think Neale endorsed Kerry without really saying so.
Here is a wonderful affirmation I just got from the DNC blog today: Rabindranath Tagore - Let My Country Awake Where the mind is without fear and the head held high; Where knowledge is free; Where the world has not been broken up into fragments by narrow domestic walls; Where words come out from the depth of truth; Where tireless striving stretches its arms towards perfection; Where the clear stream of reason has not lost its way into the dreary desert sand of dead habit; Where the mind is led forward by Thee into ever-widening thought and action; Into that heaven of freedom, my Father, let my country awake. "I wonder if the chart for Boston shows that they would have the superbowl champion win the world series and have the senater that represents them be elected president all in the same year?" Chas--I don't know about the chart for Boston, but I did read the item in Starcats that said that the Red Sox were "born" in April 1901 with the Sun at 5 degrees Taurus; the lunar eclipse was in exact degree of the team's Sun. Myself, I kind of figured that all these wonderful things were happening to Boston because MA let gays get married. The universe is rewarding MA for doing the right thing. Posted by: Gina on October 29, 2004 05:34 PMOne final post, if I may: when you all send light to Kerry and Edwards and Mr. Clinton and their families, please send light to all those undecided voters, and to any of those voters who are "soft" for one candidate or the other but may be wavering. Help guide them to hope, to wisdom, and to common sense, to our higher selves, and as the Big Dog would say, to "The guy who's telling you to HOPE and to THINK!" Posted by: Gina on October 29, 2004 05:40 PMGina & all, If you haven't,check out this prayer vigil that Garry suggested above for Nov. 1 at 8 p.m. Pacific time (9 Mtn., 10 Central, 11 Eastern). It will invoke great power. Posted by: Sharon on October 29, 2004 05:54 PMThis was the site! http://www.angeltherapy.com/workshop_new_2.html#election Posted by: Sharon on October 29, 2004 05:55 PMThanks, Robert, Morgana, Nancy, Sally, Isabelle, and everybody. This is indeed Sanity Oasis. This Sunday the Democratic Women's Club of St Johns County (St Augustine FL) will be running a quarter page ad for Kerry in the local newspaper. We're just so proud of it that I wanted to share it with you. At the top is the Kerry/Edwards logo. Then, running across two columns: There follows four bullet points on the economy, healthcare, the environment, and the war in Iraq, all with "Start--Stop" statements contrasting Kerry's position with what Bush has done. We have great hopes that this ad will appeal to voters who are having misgivings about Bush but who are not acquainted enough with Kerry. And I don't blame them. Without net access a person can't know what is going on. Can you imagine how the SCLM would have covered the Kerry campaign photo-shopping an ad? Or Kerry falling (off platform shoes)? Or a Kerry admin failing to order troops to follow an early strike force like the 101st and secure munition dumps? I'm hoping this ad will appeal to voters who aren't inclined to hide behind the couch when Cheney or Tom Ridge shouts "Boo." Posted by: Barbara on October 29, 2004 06:23 PMWay to go, Mr. Mike! Posted by: shylurker on October 29, 2004 06:31 PMJo - thanks for posting the updates. I've been following this story because it 1) demonstrates a lack of competence at the highest levels of this administration; 2) does a bit toward demonstrating what a lie the "keeping WMD's out of the hands of terrorists" was [if there was real concern about WMDs they would have searched and secured EVERY inch of EVERY possible site]; 3) is based on a clear and logical trail of substantiating evidence, ranging from the IAEA's reports and communiques to the testimony of military personnel on the ground in Iraq at the beginning of the invasion, to the video by the ABC affiliate KSTP, embedded with the 101st on April 18. No matter what the White House says, this won't just go away, because this time there is documentation - unfalsified and coming from multiple sources. Also hard to dispute a video that shows the actual IAEA seal on the bunker door, as well as photos showing that there was materiel inside. I've written the networks about this and encourage all here to do so as well. We can't let the media roll-over on this, and allow the White House to once more evade responsibility for its actions, IMHO. In the meantime - have I said recently how much this site ROCKS??? Well it does... I share the sentiments posted above re: Pallas and others working hard for the election. I've been making calls using DNC volunteer website and find that it helps me feel like I'm making a contribution. Rock on, aw'ers! -------- and thank goodness for the many lights that shine here! Posted by: KM on October 29, 2004 07:51 PMSally, by now you should have the revised post. Thanks for the welcome, all. Baraka, I second the emotion. WV, thanks for checking out the Aquarius Papers and spreading the word. Janet, I tried to be objective in both approaches, and I too am overjoyed to be able to make the call I have. Yes, Jonathan, it feels like an eternity. And thank heaven all forms pass away, including authoritarians. We probably should take a moment during this "Dia de los Muertos" to honor all those who died unnecessarily during this horrible war. On Political Physics, there's a post of some pictures of Iraqi children under the title, "If you're not outraged..." It's pretty graphic, and set off a firestorm in the blogosphere, some of it not very pretty. Still, we're on the edge of being able to go a different direction. I believe the Soul of the human race is at risk if we don't. Peg, I read the "Tin Man" Zogby post a couple of weeks ago, and forgot to put it in my article, so thanks for giving everyone a head's up. (It favors Kerry!) It's truly a struggle between regressive energies and progressive energies, and we're all in the balance as the great Age changes over the next few decades. (1 degree of an Age=about 72 years, so it takes a few centuries for major changes to complete AND be noticed by us humans). Comment on the Walsch post: Certain video games are training grounds for warlike tendencies. Always have been. It's the marketing beast. And many Americans are ill-informed, but we're only about two generations into mass advanced education. And there are still a large number of people stuck in ego who hear only what they want to hear and draw results that can be very disconnected from reality. Thank you Pallas18, Jo, Sharon, KM, and other activists in this community. It's efforts like yours and so many others that are preventing Bush/Rove from stealing it again. We are effectively countering the "aura of inevitability" in the press that put the onus on Dems in 2000 to renounce the fight. Thank you Mike. I think it's an abomination to what God there is that humanity allows innocent children to be bombed, killed or maimed. And it's time to make it right to the extent we are able. We're supposed to be curing them, not killing them. Chas: Glad the Vedics assess a Kerry win, but not sure I agree with predictive superiority of Vedic astrologers, since my own experience is that some are good while others are not. I've beaten some, been matched by others. Each system has strengths and weaknesses, but I have found that western astrology can be as precise as any other system. This is getting long, so thanx bhakti, Garry, Gina and Barbara for all your kind words and efforts. And I'll be back here in awhile. I just need to go TCB before the day slips away. Thanks to all of you for being who you are! Aum and blessings, Posted by: Robert on October 29, 2004 07:59 PMRobert, wonderful article and can’t wait for the rest of it!! I will be a poll watcher in my precinct for the Democratic party. I will get there before 7:00 to ensure that all voting machines start at “0” and to note the serial numbers of each one. Three times during the day I call the voting numbers into a coordinator. I will act to counteract as much as possible any challenges of voters made by the Republican party. The bottom line is this: EVERYONE gets to vote, unless they are at the wrong precinct. A poll worker should be able to tell them where to go. If a voter is challenged, they have a right to vote after signing a written oath affirming their eligibility. If the majority of poll workers doubt a voter's right to vote, then they should be able to fill out a provisional ballot to be reviewed later in the evening to keep the lines moving. At 7:00 p.m. I will make sure that everyone in line (even if it’s a mile long) gets to vote. That is the law. I sure hope there is a Kerry lawyer at my precinct! I would be able to relax a little. Posted by: Laurie on October 29, 2004 08:09 PMFrom MSNBC, the FBI/Cheney/Halliburton probe: E-mail ties Cheney office to contract In a formal whistle-blower complaint filed last week, Greenhouse alleged the award of contracts without competition to KBR puts at risk “the integrity of the federal contracting program as it relates to a major defense contractor.” The contracts were to restore Iraq’s oil industry. Among the evidence cited in the complaint was an internal 2003 Pentagon e-mail that says the Iraq contract “has been coordinated” with Cheney’s White House office. The vice president, who continues to receive deferred compensation from when he was Halliburton’s chief executive in the late 1990s, has steadfastly maintained he has played no role in the selection of his former company for federal business. More... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6356265 (scroll down) Youhoo Raj, are you back yet? Well maybe he'll be back tomarrow. Posted by: Jill G on October 29, 2004 08:49 PMCan you hear it? Barbra's voice, softer than usual, singing? Listen carefully... there, louder now...? HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN! Ohhhh sing it, girl... I stood in line for THREE hours to vote today... surrounded by Democrats!!!! South Carolina is going to have its first FEMALE SENATOR... betcha! and John-John are going in, in a Landslide.... don't believe (Remember those Red Sox fans, 'Believe!!!') yet? Here's something for you to ponder from Salon Happy days are here again! - - - - - - - - - - - - Hey, come on progressives, buck up! There's been too much doom and gloom -- especially among inside-the-Beltway progressives -- about Kerry's chances on Nov. 2. Maybe they inherited an extra dour gene, or maybe they're spending too much time listening to pollsters and pundits. Of course there's the occasional discouraging campaign news, but don't wallow in it, for there's also greatly encouraging news. Yes, I know that some polls have shown Bush running even with Kerry or ahead -- but the pollsters are vastly undercounting anti-Bush votes. Yes, I know that Kerry's charisma quotient ranks somewhere between that of Al Gore and Michael Dukakis -- but John's been perking up lately, showing a bit of populist passion and striking some solid blows. Yes, I know that the Bushites are creepy-scary thugs who've shown that they'll lie, cheat and steal to win, but they've been doing such things so often that their color-coded bag of tricks has lost credibility with the general public -- the curtain has been pulled back and the wizard has been revealed to be just a spoiled, insecure, petulant little son of a Bush. Prediction: I believe George W. is a one-term president, just like his daddy was." More at link http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2004/10/29/grassroots/index.html Posted by: Jo on October 29, 2004 09:04 PMBush the flip-flopper, pass this around: http://seanbonner.com/flipflop/ Posted by: Lawrence the Leo on October 29, 2004 09:26 PMFrom a poster at DailyKos by the name of Bilman: Another reader e-mailed me this two-week old Des Moines Register story by Lynne Campbell, who writes that "John Sachs, 18, a Johnston High School senior and Democrat, went to see Bush in Clive last week. Sachs got a ticket to the event from school and wanted to ask the president about whether there would be a draft, about the war in Iraq, Social Security and Medicare. Sachs told Campbell: "Then he came back and said, 'If you protest, it won't be me taking you out. It will be a sniper,' . . . He said it in such a serious tone it scared the crap out of me." Chris Suellentrop writes in Slate from a rally yesterday for Laura Bush in Port St. Lucie, where the crowd was led in "the Bush Pledge" by Florida state Sen. Ken Pruitt. "The assembled mass of about 2,000 in this Treasure Coast town about an hour north of West Palm Beach dutifully rose, arms aloft, and repeated after Pruitt: 'I care about freedom and liberty. I care about my family. I care about my country. Because I care, I promise to work hard to re-elect, re-elect George W. Bush as president of the United States.' "I know the Bush-Cheney campaign occasionally requires the people who attend its events to sign loyalty oaths, but this was the first time I have ever seen an audience actually stand and utter one." Bin Laden's back! from NYTimes regarding a new tape out: Bin Laden suggested Bush was slow to react to the Sept. 11 attacks, giving the hijackers more time than they expected. At the time of the attacks, the president was listening to schoolchildren in Florida reading a book. "It never occurred to us that the commander-in-chief of the American armed forces would leave 50,000 of his citizens in the two towers to face these horrors alone," he said, referring to the number of people who worked at the World Trade Center. "It appeared to him (Bush) that a little girl's talk about her goat and its butting was more important than the planes and their butting of the skyscrapers. That gave us three times the required time to carry out the operations, thank God," he said. Perhaps this is the October Surprise we here on AW have been wondering about? Certainly helps Kerry, I think! Posted by: Jonathan on October 29, 2004 10:34 PMFellow Astroworlders: Go read this. It is excellent! It will make you smile!! "Four More Days!" A Two-Minute Warning Pep Talk http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/10/29/02734/205 Posted by: Laurie on October 29, 2004 10:36 PMThis is the body of an e-mail that was sent to all employees of the law firm I work for. "Under Missouri law the parties are allowed to have challengers in the polls to observe the election process and make sure that everything is kosher. The Jackson County Republican Party is looking for individuals of the Republican persuasion who are registered voters in the Kansas City part of Jackson County and who would be willing to serve are a challenger on election day. You would not have to serve the entire day but only as long as you are able. The Party will provide the training and the credentials allowing you to be in the poll. Call me ASAP if you are interested." Posted by: Teresa on October 29, 2004 10:41 PMJonathan, we can only hope. But I wonder, is this Rove's suprise, ten minutes to five on a Friday. This OBL story has wiped everything off the news: the missing explosives, the Haliburton investigation, and the poor job numbers that came out today. Posted by: Janet on October 29, 2004 10:44 PMIf this is a Rove tactic, Janet, then it's a poorly planned one. For UBL to mention that he had more time to attack because Bush stayed and read My Pet Goat is not exactly the kind of image you'd think they'd want to create of their Commander in Chief. And that's what people will be reminded of when they a) see the coverage of this tape or b) read about it in their morning papers. And to go to the Polls with the refreshed memory of Bush displaying a shocking degree of inaction during the worst attack on American Soil cannot, I suspect, be helpful to him. Sounds like Pluto on his South Node to me. :-) Just my two cents. Posted by: Jonathan on October 29, 2004 11:00 PMhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7433-2004Oct28.html NAACP Faces IRS Investigation The Internal Revenue Service has threatened to revoke the NAACP's tax-exempt status because the civil rights group's chairman, Julian Bond, "condemned the administration policies of George W. Bush" during a speech this summer, according to documents the group provided yesterday. The NAACP, which is based in Baltimore and is the nation's oldest and largest civil rights organization, is incorporated under a tax-code section that prohibits participation in a political campaign. The group has long had a strained relationship with the Bush administration. An IRS document dated Oct. 8 said that at the group's annual convention in Philadelphia in July, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People may have violated the restriction on political activity because it "distributed statements in opposition of George W. Bush for the office of presidency." "Specifically in a speech made by Chairman Julian Bond, Mr. Bond condemned the administration policies of George W. Bush on education, the economy and the war in Iraq," said an IRS "information document request" sent with the letter. More... Posted by: Pat C on October 29, 2004 11:09 PMFrom Democracy Now: Bush administration lawyers are now attempting to overturn decades of legal precedence by claiming that under the Help America Vote Act only Attorney General John Ashcroft -- and not individual voters - have a right to ask federal courts to enforce voting rights.
Even the Supreme Court has backed the idea of private suits. In 1969, the justices issued a ruling in a case related to the Voting Rights Act of 1965 that "the achievement of the act's laudable goal would be severely hampered ... if each citizen were required to depend solely on litigation instituted at the discretion of the attorney general." ... Posted by: Pat C on October 29, 2004 11:10 PMTHE DAILY MIS-LEAD =============================== BUSH GHOST WRITER SHOWS TRUTH ABOUT FATHER AND SON Mickey Herskowitz - a ghost writer for both George W. Bush and George H.W. Bush - has revealed startling information about both men, which he learned from extensive candid conversations with the 41st and the 43rd presidents. Herskowitz revealed the information in a series of interviews with investigative reporter Russ Baker, which Baker tape recorded.[1] Baker's article reveals that "in 2003, Bush's father indicated to [Herskowitz] that he disagreed with his son's invasion of Iraq."[2] George W. Bush was reluctant to talk to Herskowitz about his National Guard service. But Bush did tell him "that after transferring from his Texas Guard unit two-thirds through his six-year military obligation to work on an Alabama political campaign, he did not attend any Alabama National Guard drills at all, because he was 'excused.'"[3] Bush's comments to Herskowitz "directly contradicts his public statements that he participated in obligatory training with the Alabama National Guard."[4] According to Herskowitz, "two years before the September 11 attacks, presidential candidate George W. Bush was already talking privately about attacking Iraq."[5] In 1999, Bush said to Herskowitz, "My father had all this political capital built up when he drove the Iraqis out of Kuwait and he wasted it. If I have a chance to invade.... if I had that much capital, I'm not going to waste it. I'm going to get everything passed that I want to get passed and I'm going to have a successful presidency."[6] Posted by: wv on October 29, 2004 11:11 PMSally, what does the time of the alleged bin Laden airing say? What effect will it have? I trust your astrological judgment much more than I trust most of the media and their opinions. Posted by: Teresa on October 29, 2004 11:12 PMRE: Teresa's post above...I just wanted to add that I second that motion! I can't discern whether the OBL tape helps or hurts JFK - or what other effect it may have. (My instant gut reaction was that it hurts, because it both distracts and brings the burning towers back to mind -- ) We need someone with the required astrological insight who can "see" into this. It would help quell an uneasiness stirred by this event and its timing. Posted by: KM on October 29, 2004 11:26 PM
2. original BBC report: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/3956129.stm via Roman 3. http://www.newdonkey.com/2004/10/rove-mo.html via TPM 4. compendium: http://atrios.blogspot.com/2004/10/bogus-challenge-in-ohio.html 5. PARTICULARLY OUTRAGEOUS *** http://www.ohio.com/mld/beaconjournal/10042113.htm ****via Atrios [if you read this article and don't fight to beat Bush, well... I dunno....] 6. http://www.prospect.org/weblog/archives/2004/10/index.html#004558 THERE IS NO WAY THAT THE HR can keep you up to date on this as in 2000, so... I urge everyone to stay informed -- and then get involved in fighting against the chicanery. If you have a law degree and you are not going to be assisting... I hope and expect you have family/hurrican recovery reasons or the like. [7. cf. this non-argument piece of bromidal crap. http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A708-2004Oct26?language=printer Anyone who takes Robert Samuelson seriously should not themselves be taken seriously by, well, serious people.] PET ISSUE: "Media and telecommunications mergers would likely face greater scrutiny by the U.S. Federal Communications Commission if Sen. John Kerry wins next week's presidential election, industry analysts and lobbyists say. If President Bush is reelected, these experts expect the FCC to continue freeing companies from regulation and pushing competition between cable, wireless, telephone and satellite systems, rather than within each mode." http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=1963&e=1&u=/nm/20041029/pl_nm/campaign_fcc_dc&sid=96378800 WITHIN THE CORPORATE MEDIA, THIS CONSTITUTES "THE LEFT" excellent, excellent. http://www.michaelberube.com/EE/index.php/weblog/slightly_newer_republic/ via Atrios. BRUCE: http://www.jsonline.com/news/site/slideshow.asp?slideshowid=361&SlideOrder=1 FLASH -- THREE EPISODES SO FAR, #4 RELEASED SUNDAY: http://victoryfund.njdc.org/bubbie Posted by: Pat C on October 29, 2004 11:38 PMMarines Poised to Storm Falluja and Ramadi Here's more from Robert... Cheney emails tie the White House to Halliburton no-bid contract The whistleblower insisted they should be awarded the contract for only 1 year while bidding was opened up, but of course higher ups nixed that one. She sez, "It was the worse abuse of the procurement and contracting system that I have ever seen." So the FBI got involved, expanding its investigation which already includes Halliburton overcharging we the people in the past for Iraq services. Link to that mess here. We are told this new FBI investigation "elevates to a criminal matter" whether the White House showed favoritism to Halliburton. And they insist they haven't interviewed the veep - yet. However, we are told of an "internal Pentagon e-mail that says the Iraq contract 'has been coordinated' with Cheney's White House office." We are also reminded that Cheney still receives a lot of "deferred compensation" from Big Hal. Links can be found below. This thing has gone on way too long. Here's a link to Halliburton's treasonous trading with Iran when veep Dick was CEO. And here's a link to Halliburton expecting special favors regarding how their services are billed to the American taxpayer. These guys are what Eisenhower warned us about. - RW
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/printer_102904J.shtml Posted by: wv on October 30, 2004 12:01 AM
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/printer_102904X.shtml Posted by: wv on October 30, 2004 12:08 AMTeresa, I don't know exactly when the OBL tape was released but I did hear that the Bush people had it for at least 8 hours before they released it. Today, the Moon was moving toward a sextile to Saturn, just out of range of a yod with Pluto, too far out of range, so it would be difficult to know what the impact might be. I did wonder how much of the taxpayers money the Bush Administration paid to OBL to make the tape. They say it was made months ago and it's just a little too coincidental to be coincidental, particularly since Cheney and Bush have been saying for months that OBL will try to impact the election. Don't believe it, don't consider the chart (because it would be inaccurate) worthy of looking at, particularly since we don't know when it was made, or how long the US has had the tape. For me, the fix is in for this election and if I were GWB I would be hoping something slips up and makes Kerry President. Posted by: Sally on October 30, 2004 12:36 AMJonathan, I was thinking just like you that the re-emergence of OBL would help Kerry. (An early post at DU said that someone over at FAUX had said this would be hurtful to shrub). I mean, the guy looks like he's been lounging on the beach, not hiding out in caves. My thought was this would be like an accused mass murderer calling a press conference in Las Vegas and telling everyone how much fun he's been having and how much gambling money he's won since the day he slipped the feds (a la Keystone Cops). But the cable news guys are falling all over themselves saying how bad this is for Kerry. From the standpoint of taking the media attention off of the misadministration's multiple train wrecks of earlier today, I guess it is a boon to the goon. I dunno. Wasn't moon VOC this afternoon? I didn't check. Posted by: Susan on October 30, 2004 12:43 AMJust got a snippet of Clinton in Las Vegas today, he's rockin'. Fiery! Whoohoo pulling out all the stops, go Blue Wave. Sally said that the Bush team would try something at the end and "surprise" Kerry wins anyway. I think Osama bin Laden, this is it. Sally I apologize if I took you wrong. Posted by: Laurie on October 30, 2004 01:09 AMSally, My thoughts exactly. " I did wonder how much of the taxpayers money the Bush Administration paid to OBL to make the tape. They say it was made months ago and it's just a little too coincidental to be coincidental, particularly since Cheney and Bush have been saying for months that OBL will try to impact the election". A reverse psychology = psyops from the WH. Figuring Americans would get mad at OBL bashing Yes. I think it might backfire on Rove and dummy. And there is no question that Saudi Arabia, Cheney, Dummy are still in business with OBL in the new Caspian Sea Oil enterprise...google Azberjain Chamber of Commerce and you'll see what I mean. But I'm still worried about Neptune going direct - Pallas18 Posted by: Pallas18 on October 30, 2004 02:08 AMFAIR-L http://www.fair.org/press-releases/missing-explosives.html MEDIA ADVISORY: October 29, 2004 When the New York Times reported on Monday (10/25/04) that over 300 tons On October 28, ABC affiliate KSTP released footage that was shot by its On the other hand, on the same day the Pentagon released satellite images More... Posted by: Pat C on October 30, 2004 02:16 AMIn case anyone has forgotten how much dnager our right are in.... Ashcroft Seeking Control of Voting Rights This was on network television. The tape must be around somewhere. Q (March 13, 2002): Mr. President, in your speeches now you rarely talk or mention Osama bin Laden. Why is that?... Bush: So I don't know where he is. You know, I just don't spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you... Q: But don't you believe that the threat that bin Laden posed won't truly be eliminated until he is found either dead or alive? Bush: Well, as I say, we haven't heard much from him. And I wouldn't necessarily say he's at the center of any command structure. And, again, I don't know where he is. I--I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him. I know he is on the run. I was concerned about him, when he had taken over a country. I was concerned about the fact that he was basically running Afghanistan and calling the shots for the Taliban. --------------------- http://digbysblog.blogspot.com On a thread asking how this recent OBL tape will influence the election one poster wrote: "Queue up the 'I'm not concerned about him' video. And be sure to include the preface, where Dumb Leader says, 'To be honest with you..." posted by poputonian I think the Kerry campaign should run this tape on the hour and maybe end with a voiceover saying "Maybe it's time we had a president who is concerned. Vote for Kerry." Posted by: Barbara on October 30, 2004 03:14 AMahemm...i mean ohmmmmmmmmmmmm after my rant re: neale early this morning, i had a moment of zen watching the weather channel. then i told myself i'd remember something later in the day. after reading chas' wonderful link to the vedic astrologers, i recalled that the taciturn guido predicted a red sox victory in the world series. while guido will never win the Indira Priyadarshini Award, he did call this one correctly (with the help of Shylurker's doppelganger). recall also, that guido predicted a kerry win!!! he is one with "astrologer Lachhman Das Madan: 'I reveal the cosmic writ that George Bush cannot become the president of the US again.'" this guido-vedic link may explain the 30 lost years of guido's early life...he spent them in india studying vedic astrology!!! goodness me, maybe neale should start channeling guido? Posted by: mike on October 30, 2004 03:18 AMThe most intelligent comment I have seen so far about the new Bin Laden tape is that it really doesn't change anything. Except that now we know for sure that he is alive. Based on the coverage I have seen of the tape so far, it sounds like Bin Laden's message is squeaking through. Namely, that our policy choices are what this war is all about and that our choices have consequences. This concept is the essence of what our election is all about. That choices have consequences. When a friend (Bush or Kerry) and an enemy (Bin Laden) are telling you the same thing, you can't help but listen to what they are saying. Posted by: Dave on October 30, 2004 04:35 AMHow reavealing is this video? Congressman Peter King (R-NY): "...we'll take care of the counting." http://homepage.mac.com/duffyb/nobush/iMovieTheater256.html Posted by: Mark on October 30, 2004 04:42 AMJust heard on CNN that the Qatar government was urged by a US ambassador not to air the Osama tape on Al Jazeera..very shady...no? Posted by: Lawrence the Leo on October 30, 2004 04:57 AMOuida May's appearance in the fishnet stockings is now accompanied by words such as "Swiss," "Muenster," "Feta," "Edam", "Brie" and "Velveeta." Mr. Mike, can you account for that? Apparently there's a flyer is circulating in Milwaukee from the "Milwaukee Black Voters League," that's headlined: "SOME WARNINGS FOR ELECTION TIME." Among the warnings: image here: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/10/28/201853/53 I know this sounds bad, but the OBL tape I thought was hilarious. There he is looking resplendent in his white shroud with matching hat, a gold robe thrown loosely over his shoulders, looking rested and fit. I expected him to start with "my fellow Americans." A thousand or more talking heads frantically throwing up their hands and spinning the whole thing out of control "does this favor Bush or Kerry." Bush and Kerry delivering a version of "we will track them down like dogs." The Security Moms locking their doors tight as if Bin Laden was going to show up at their door for Halloween. The juxtaposition of the two pictures brought to my mind that the "terrorists" have won. We and our political process look like jackasses, our candidates look like jackasses. Unbelievable. The entire world is begging us to elect someone anyone different than Bush. The greatest intellectual minds in the world, including many intelligent and well respected Republicans are saying "anyone but Bush." And we in this country are still not sure we would be safe without the man who made us not safe. We are wringing our hands over who might win or not, believing our life to be over one way or the other. I cannot whine anymore over 9/11, 100,000 innocent people are dead in Iraq, 100,000 of our fellow human beings who never did anything to us are dead, not to mention our own troops and we are wondering if Bin Laden is trying to interfer with this election. God someone needs to interfer, save us from ourselves. They say if the Redskins win on Sunday it will favor a Bush win, if they lose it favors Kerry. After 4 years of hell under these people it comes down to a football game, what else. Only in America. shylurker, i have to meditate on this tonight in a lucid dream. i'm stumped other than the fact guido has frequently been referred to as a 'cheesey character'. hmmm...stockings...cheese Posted by: mike on October 30, 2004 07:40 AMHas Neptune changed postions so that now the fog will clear and bush will be seen as the frightening phony he truly is? Posted by: Pat C on October 30, 2004 03:09 PMHahahahahaaaa! A-[wo]men to that, Miss Sally!! Mass psychotic break of absolute silliness reigns supreme... at least for the moment. Posted by: JoannaOregon on October 30, 2004 03:10 PMJoannaOregon, it's an induced Mass psychotic break of absolute silliness. This is mass marketing at it's worst!! It's worthy of broadway! Posted by: Pat C on October 30, 2004 03:17 PMThe stupid more than tiresome & boring grandiose boyz, who obviously refuse to do any kind of constructive positive work or R&R, ALL LOVE to dress up in resplendant costumes, amass stage props, get the lighting jeeees right, mouth incredibly dumb scripts... then they demand to be taken seriously. Unbelievable HOOT!!! Posted by: JoannaOregon on October 30, 2004 03:23 PMbest post of the week, Sally. Crazy, crazy world, n'est-ce pas? Posted by: Peg on October 30, 2004 03:24 PMSadly-sad, desperate, & pathetic... I 'spose this might be the best one can expect from the Pluto in Leo bio-units. ;O( Posted by: JoannaOregon on October 30, 2004 03:26 PMRamsey Clark launches online reporting system for election fraud. In my opinion, the tape served its purpose. The talk about the missing explosives has quieted. Even Josh Marshall is writing more about the tape than about the explosives. Focus, Kerry, focus. Posted by: Teresa on October 30, 2004 03:44 PMBesides which I don't believe the bushaholic & Saudi family ben Ladens are "enemies" at all but conspire together to "Rule the World." They have tea & hootch together amongst their props n' costumes, giggling how they're Big Boyz now, & how they've "Pulled the Wool" over all Eyes. Hahahahahaaa!! Nasty lil murderous wargeezers. Posted by: JoannaOregon on October 30, 2004 03:49 PMhttp://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/1030elect-security30.html School safety, voter rights may collide Arizona schools that double as voting precincts are being asked to consider implementing security measures on Election Day that voting-rights advocates say could violate federal and state laws. State Superintendent of Public Instruction Tom Horne sent the letter Monday, advising district and school administrators to monitor all voters who come on campuses and to consider implementing emergency-response plans during Tuesday's election. Horne added that the memo does not require any school to take any action. John Hartsell, Arizona director for the Election Protection coalition, said, "Our only concern is that, while protecting students, you may infringe on the rights of voters. If folks have to show identification to get on campus or get into the polling place, that's a violation of the Help America Vote Act and of state statutes." More... Who will hunt down OBL more aggressively--Smirky or Kerry? You know the drill: Echoing Captain Sally's sentiments, it is shameful and highly embarrassing that about half the people in this country can't figure out that Smirky has not protected us from OBL and, instead, are looking to the Redskins for a clue. So, do you think, Mr. Mike, that Ouida May might have Cheeseheads in mind? Posted by: shylurker on October 30, 2004 04:12 PMWell, happily, so far 76% of the people who responded to that poll think Kerry will protect the US better than *ush. Posted by: Pat C on October 30, 2004 04:21 PMThe Academy Of Predictive Astrology in the UK (Robert Zoller + crew?) has made the following prediction: "It is predicted that John Kerry will win the US presidency in November 2004. John Edwards will be Vice-President. John Kerry will not finish his term of office and John Edwards will succeed to the presidency. " ...no ifs, buts, ands or maybes. On a related note, check out this article from NYT called "President Edwards?": http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/29/opinion/29marmon.html?th About that Osama video - who the #$%!!! does he think he is??? I'm no B*sh supporter, but Osama has got to be the most boldfaced guy on the planet! His whole argument can be summed up thus: "Bush did nothing to protect you against madmen like me who were trying to kill up to 50,000 people in those towers. By the way, Kerry won't protect you from fanatics like me, either..." So what? Vote Osama? Jeez!!.... ooooo that smell. Can't you smell that smell????? Sally, right on. Some Americans can only relate when it comes down to gladitator metality. I hardly doubt ANY astrologer thinks in terms of 'no ifs, ands, buts or maybes'. Where's the link???
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/printer_103104Y.shtml Posted by: wv on October 30, 2004 05:42 PMHere's the entire article. PREDICTION At times like these though we can see the real advantage of predictive astrology and get a glimpse of the metaphysical principles that underlie not just astrological delineation but our own lives and times. Put simply, if it is fated that Kerry will win and Bush loose then what does this tell us about free will. After all, it is an article of faith upon which our democracies have been built that the great tide of human affairs is largely regulated by ourselves - our own free actions - in the case of the US elections by a large group of citizens exercising this free will in the polls. Yet the predictive techniques have consistently been right. Four years ago they determined that Bush would win, now they determine he will loose and is destined for ignominy. Eight years before that that Clinton would win. Before that, that Reagan would win. The more we look at it the more we see that the astrology is charting something of huge ramifications of which most of us are only be dimly aware. And so, below we are not just publishing a prediction concerning the outcome of an election but one that goes beyond it. In later editions of this newsletter we are then going to look a little more closely at this prediction, the techniques used and what it tells us about this interplay between Fate and Free Will. It is predicted that John Kerry will win the US presidency in November 2004. John Edwards will be Vice-President. John Kerry will not finish his term of office and John Edwards will succeed to the presidency. Some of you will be aware that this part of a wider prediction that was made in January 2004 in which it was stated John Kerry (then battling for party nomination) would win selection. That he would later take John Edwards as his running mate. That is all water under the bridge so we have removed those sections Posted by: Pat C on October 30, 2004 05:48 PMbhakti, I think Zollar is basing Kerry dying on his progressed Mars returning to his natal Mars position exactly in about a year. That aspect indicates the beginning or the end of Kerry's destiny. Let it be the beginning of his new destiny. Posted by: Pat C on October 30, 2004 05:50 PMPat C, thanks for the article. Is there a link or was this an e-mail you got? Posted by: Laurie on October 30, 2004 05:53 PMLaurie, I got it as an e-mail. I'm on their list. I've been trying to figure out what the link would be. Posted by: Pat C on October 30, 2004 06:05 PMHere is his primary URL http://www.new-library.com/zoller/ Posted by: Pat C on October 30, 2004 06:12 PMThanks for the link Pat. I couldn't find this article because they probably haven't posted it yet. Very interesting site . . . as a matter of fact I am interested in maybe taking his courses. They are definitely not too expensive. How is everyone holding up? I'm a nervous wreck, although I do seem quite calm as usual on the outside. Went to the Kerry headquarters to help out today and we had a blast. It's great to be around like-minded people. I enjoy it immensely. I am nervous about poll-watching Tuesday, I guess because I'm in Florida and I know the right will be relentless with their dirty tricks. I have promised myself just to do the best I can and that's all I can do and, who knows, maybe better than that!! Posted by: Laurie on October 30, 2004 06:51 PMMay White Light surround and protect You, Laurie, and make You a Messenger of Truth. May the Good Lord, all Her/His Angels and Messengers shower Blessings upon You and Accompany You on Your Mission. May it be so for All of Us. Posted by: Sharon on October 30, 2004 06:58 PM"May White Light surround and protect You, Laurie, and make You a Messenger of Truth. May the Good Lord, all Her/His Angels and Messengers shower Blessings upon You and Accompany You on Your Mission.
DITTO! May you and yours be wrapped in impervious protection while projecting unyielding strength. Posted by: Pat C on October 30, 2004 07:16 PMThank you so much for your kind words! It gives me courage. :-) Does anyone else have "No Surrender" by Springsteen on their mind all day??!!! Posted by: Laurie on October 30, 2004 07:22 PMCould Zollar's prediction also be based on the inauguration chart, with an 8th house Mars conjunct Kerry's Sun and an 8th house Pluto opposing his Saturn? Posted by: on October 30, 2004 07:26 PMThanks Pat C for the link. I personally believe we are our destiny's steerer through free choice. Choice is the word I prefer to Will. In the land of duality it is the choices we make between the pairs of opposites. The pleasurable choice for the moment or the beneficial one for the longterm. I think we can all let Time make it's choice for the death of Kerry or anything else. Astrocharts are maps to follow but not dogmatically. The people will speak out on Tues. I love astrology, tarot, etc however it does not make the choices for me at all times. Otherwise, it becomes another addiction or crutch to not deal. The 'End Times' to me have always been about the end of a certain conciousness. The end of black or white thinking. I see it coming across already with this election as an example of the new times. Multi-dimensional thinking of seeing the overall and the details simultaneously. I see this new way in the children I meet. Less so in adults BTW, got a critique from a conference attendee when I was in PA this month to keep my politics and 'Hindu' religion out of my talk. I talk about yoga, the goddess being nature. I wrote back the Conference head 'NO WAY' . Yoga being psychology and not religion or even Hindu was a clear sign of the commenter's lack of education and being informed. Meanwhile, it's probably ok by them that * can shove hos Xtian Crusade down my throat . Posted by: bhakti on October 30, 2004 07:33 PM The ICH (Inauguration Chart from Hell) has Chiron on the midheaven. Given all that Smirky&Co have done, recovering will be a daunting matter. Not that we can't do it; we can. But it will take a very strong leader (such as FDR) to lead us through it and that leader (as did FDR) will carry enormous weight on his shoulders. Click here: The Village Voice - TV http://www.villagevoice.com/video/vvideo.php?clip=ohio-10-25-04 Another take on Bin Laden's "election video" from Truthout.Org: "The fellow who orchestrated the massacre of 3,000 people, the fellow whom Bush said he wasn't concerned about, thanked Bush for giving him the time necessary to complete his wretched act. In the parlance of American youth, Bush got punked by the top terrorist on national television. " Full article: http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/103004A.shtml ENERGY FOLLOWS THOUGHT. Something happening to Kerry. The curse of the Bambino and the Boston Red Sox. Etc. etc. etc.
LET'S SEE. HOW MANY PEOPLE WAS THAT ENERGIZING IT - THOUSANDS? MILLIONS? AND FOR OVER 80 YEARS! I'D SAY THAT'S A LOT OF POWER BEING GIVEN TO A THOUGHT, A BELIEF. This happens with astrological predictions, which carry such enormous responsibility. Different astrologers offer different predictions. Which ones do we choose to believe? I HAVE POSTED MANY, MANY TIMES, AND HAVE ASKED AND CONTINUE TO ASK... 1. WHAT IS THE RANGE OF POSSIBILITIES OF PARTICULAR TRANSITS? 2. WHAT ARE THE HIGHEST POSSIBLE OUTCOMES? 3. AND WHY, OH WHY, WOULD WE WANT TO LATCH ON TO THE MOST NEGATIVE ONES, THE ONES THAT INSTILL FEAR? Perhaps because we live in a negative (meaning receptive, not bad) dimension and have to consciously choose what we allow to filter in and receive. Once we've received it, we've bought it . .. Whether negative or positive. Then we have to work through the negative if we don't want to keep it. We're dealing with energy constantly moving and changing. We are constantly interacting with it and affect it with our thinking and feelings. Every time we write or speak or think about something, we are GIVING ENERGY, POWER, TO THAT THING, WHETHER POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE. And then we pass it around. And it grows and grows and grows.
AND, REPETITION IS CONDITIONING.
Several years ago, I was facilitating a group that was discussing recent Pluto transits. A woman in the group shared that she was having some problems with her husband. She had Pluto transiting her Sun in the 7th house. There was lots of anger and confrontation with him and she was considering leaving him. We talked about the meaning of Pluto and what Pluto was trying to teach her about control and power, loss of it, misuse of it and how to use it differently. She had some insights about herself and these issues. A week later, at the next class, she shared how during the week she had worked with those insights, which allowed her to change her perceptions and attitudes FROM THE INSIDE. It changed how she felt toward and reacted to her husband. (Inner transformation) Because she no longer needed to be confrontational, he had nothing to react to, to bounce off of, so he wasn't as confrontational toward her. And their relationship now felt different to her. So, through her insights, she transformed how the energies manifested and probably prevented something ugly and unwanted from happening. With an understanding and awareness of many possible planetary meanings and outcomes, we can choose the level at which we respond to the energy of transits. Imagine if masses of people changed their levels of perception, their levels of meaning. . . Imagine the possibilities of focusing on the highest outcomes, not the lower ones of fear. So, let's remember to ask ourselves. Let it become a “Mantra” . . . “WHAT ARE THE HIGHEST POSSIBLE OUTCOMES?” LET'S NOT SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS.
http://www.guntheranderson.com/v/data/nosurren.htm Posted by: wv on October 30, 2004 09:28 PM
Former CBSNEWS anchorman Walter Cronkite believes Bush adviser Karl Rove is possibly behind the new Bin Laden tape. Cronkite made the startling comments late Friday during an interview on CNN. Cronkite said he is "inclined to think that Karl Rove, the political manager at the White House, who is a very clever man, he probably set up bin Laden to this thing." Interviewer Larry King did not ask Cronkite to elaborate on the provocative election eve accusation. Posted by: wv on October 30, 2004 09:38 PM
http://reese.king-online.com/Reese_20041029/index.php Posted by: wv on October 30, 2004 10:04 PM
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/objects/pages/PrintArticleEn.jhtml?itemNo=494974 Posted by: wv on October 30, 2004 10:14 PMYeahhhh for Cronkite. Actually, the pic looks NOTHING like earlier pics of OBL... none of which look the same! It's a freakin' fraud, probably meant to hurt Kerry, but it DOES NOT... and I think way too many Dems and Progressives are wringing their hands over it! Enough! We're winning this thing... Hammer the media to pick up on the issues that matter... like what a bad pResident the shrub has been... hey 9/11 happened on his watch... who is protecting whom? And Mars' post above has lots of merit... OBL was in your fact, dubya... reminding us all (those with ears to hear anyway) that he is still free... and able to taunt 'I can run and I can hide'... Posted by: Jo on October 30, 2004 10:33 PMPosted by wv at October 30, 2004 09:38 PM [Former CBSNEWS anchorman Walter Cronkite believes Bush adviser Karl Rove is possibly behind the new Bin Laden tape.] I thought this, or possibly somebody in the Bush group, from the very moment I heard it on PBS last night. How very convenient, you know. DUH! I used to look forward to the Shields and Brooks section on the Leherer(sp) News Hour on PBS on Fridays. But now...I think Mark Shields might as well be for the other side, right along with David Brooks. How incredibly tepid he is most of the time. Also...no new thinking there, or anything seeming to resemble any insight in MONTHS!!! Just goes to show you what getting involved in something will bring as far as personal perspective! Worked Dem phone banks here yesterday and again today. Many many Dem supporters in this area. Tomorrow Clinton appears in Little Rock and I am gearing up to make the trip. Hope all's well in the trenches various! Sending love and light your way. OG Old Granny, Thanks for the report from Arkansas... Sooooo delighted for you that you're going to see Clinton... send him my regards and light, too please! Thank you for all that you do in and out of the trenches... Re Shields/Brooks... I decided over a year ago that PBS now falls into the media whore column, Jim Lehrer right up there with the best of them... when they added David Brooks I emailed saying least they could do was give Brooks' bio... let everyone know he is a charter NEOCON... but they didn't... and since Bob Edwards was pushed out of Morning Edition, I suspect if Mark Shields says one tiny thing against the script, he's gone too! The hour has become a freaking farce too... NPR and all of them... sound more like CNN everyday... I tune into the blogs on internet, it's the only way to go, that and the Euro newspapers... shame isn't it...? Laurie, Hold your head high! Tuesday will be an historic day... don't let anyone intimidate you... just be sure you have a friend at the polling place, one of the workers... we're all sending light... Don't forget the big prayer vigil tomorrow night, 8:00 pacific time... link upthread or last thread? One of the workers at local Dem hdqtrs, , young man just out of college, came here in September, smiled at me today and said, 'we're going to win this... not just Inez' race... Kerry's too... and we're going to net 4 Senate seats... the Dems want this REALLY bad this time...' I'm not the only dreamer in South Carolina! Fact is, I don't think it is a 'dream' ---- Repugs here are too darn quiet... they party does not support DeMint... he won the primary because there were so many in it! But, he's too extreme even for South Carolina! Some white males here are faced with supporting a man who supports a 23% sales tax and elimination of the income tax - or, a woman... methinks most will have to opt for Inez or simply not vote. I'm excited... really excited... three more days 'til victory!!! Light to all, Posted by: Jo on October 30, 2004 11:25 PM
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/printer_103104W.shtml Posted by: wv on October 30, 2004 11:31 PM
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Come on people, we all know that Pappy Bush the saturn return reflects a victory for bush who will interpret his re-election as an apex of achievement when in fact it will mark the beginning of his fall--bushs natal sun conjunct the u.s. natal sun reflects a certain destiny--four more years of failure--twain once remarked that 'pessimism is the name weak nerve gives to wisdom'-- Posted by: w on October 30, 2004 11:55 PMw, please, Kerry is going to win this thing. But I think we have a "win-win situation" here. If Kerry wins, we win. If Bush wins, we win, because he will be disgraced. I would prefer a Kerry win, by a landslide! Posted by: Laurie on October 31, 2004 12:03 AMWhen spin explodes http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/stories/2004/explosive.html Posted by: Pat C on October 31, 2004 12:08 AM***guido alert guido tells me that he's confident that 4 of the 5 texas house of representatives candidates (DEMS) targeted for extinction through redistricting(e.g. Martin Frost) will win re-election. he'd like to predict 5 of 5 but he ran off to a cheese & whine tasting with ouida may. guido is up and motivated. he wants that vedic astrological prize (among other things)! Posted by: mike on October 31, 2004 12:11 AMBeware the hydra-headed beast who seems to show up on the same day in clusters of the same posters. Do not feed it. Hmmmmm? Am I paranoid? Sniff sniff, my sniffer is pretty good. Kerry in a landslide! Hey bhakti, I with you. I hate to be ungrateful, but we don't need anymore predictions, the best (astrologers on this site) have already given us theirs. And almost in your neck of the wood, Happy Holloween from Manhattan to everyone and KERRY IN A LANDSLIDE. Posted by: Janet on October 31, 2004 12:46 AM
Yes, wv, a Packers win would be sweet! Posted by: Laurie on October 31, 2004 01:09 AMhttp://www.uclick.com/client/nyt/po/ Posted by: wv on October 31, 2004 01:46 AMJo, The worldwide prayer vigil is Monday night, Nov. 1 8PM Pacific, 11PM Eastern. Prayer Vigil for the U.S. Election More here..... i'm a dc area resident and i'll be attending the redskins-packers game tomorrow. got 4 tickets by chance. i'm taking my daughter, guido, and ouida may. i will be sending strong 'loser vibes' to the skins in person in behalf of all of you; and visions of success to bret favre, greatest living quarterback and, little known fact, the love child of kenny stabler and terry bradshaw's illegitimate daughter. blue light to all as i descend into the valley of beer known as redskins statium.
Well, Mr. Mike, I think string cheese will probably go best with the beer. So be sure to pack some of that along with the cajun sausages. We will think strong throughts for Fauvre being on one of his awesome streaks tomorrow--for the entire game! That'll wrap it up fer sure. Posted by: shylurker on October 31, 2004 03:29 AMJanet wrote: "I hate to be ungrateful, but we don't need anymore predictions, the best (astrologers on this site) have already given us theirs." Sorry, I find this to be remarkably short-sighted. We should always be open to more (and newer) information. I, for one, have been waiting patiently to see what Robert Zoller's take on various matters is. He's been very quiet since 9/11. BTW - anyone who moves in those cirles know if he ever elaborated on the significance of New Zealand? I'm specifically referring to this from "Prediction and Sept. 11th": "...as well as discussion of various charts concerning England and New Zealand - the importance of the latter country relates to matters that will not become obvious until nearer 2020." Posted by: mars on October 31, 2004 03:57 AM
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/printer_103104V.shtml Posted by: wv on October 31, 2004 04:07 AMToday business took my husband and I to Nashville for the day (from Alabama). What a sight - as soon as we crossed over into Tennessee we started to see many Kerry/Edwards lawn signs. Got down to the area around Vanderbilt University and there were clusters of Kerry supporters on every corner with flags and bullhorns and people handing out fliers. At least 150 people on the street corners alone and many people stopping to talk to them! It was truly amazing! Stopped for lunch at a cafe near downtown and people inside were wearing Kerry buttons ... did not see a Bush sticker all day! Amazing - we came home energized by all that we experienced today! To see all those Kerry supporters was fabulous!! Posted by: Siobhan on October 31, 2004 05:00 AMI have to say that there is something about New Zealand that has been going on for quite some time...I'm sorry, but this will tantalize you but not give you any certain answers; I recall astrologically looking for unsafe times for the US Now here's the bad news...I don;t recall which eclipses. ____ To the person who wished that astrologers would not continue giving astrological delineations or relate any "bad news" for fear that putting it into the ether would make it come true -: we don't make it happen, we just read the signs given to us in the heavens and deliver the message. I am reminded of the poem from "Omar Khayam": " The Moving Finger writes; and having writ, Some things in this world can be affected by good thought and free will, and other things are as if carved in stone and cannot. Since this is an astrological site, to ask the participants not to continue to do their work,or only to tell half the message, the half you might like, is strange indeed, and is akin to asking the astrologers to be dishonest. __________ In any case many of us have seen the same thing... Some things are meant to be. We shall see. Pallas18 Posted by: Pallas18 on October 31, 2004 05:08 AMhttp://www.tomdispatch.com/index.mhtml?emx=x&pid=1958 Osama bin Laden as Global Shock Jock I agree, Pallas. Let us all commit ourselves to absolute honesty. Yes! Posted by: arbustofalafel on October 31, 2004 06:16 AMDavid Brock of Media Matters (the full text of Brock's letter is available at the MMFA site) has written to NBC, formally requesting that they change their plans regarding their election night line-up which includes “Rush Limbaugh” (can you believe that one) Send a letter or note to NBC and let them know how you feel about Pig-Boy being on as a “actual” political pundit! It’s important that we act to let NBC know that the hate monger Limbaugh should not be allowed on public television to spread his special brand of hate/fascism to a large national audience. "Three more days and my days as Bushfatiqued are going to be over" The email mailto:nightly@nbc.com Think of astrology as the weatherman. We don't bring the rain but we would suggest to think about carrying an umbrella. I will also add that I know astrologers who see the sky falling everyday. I have said this before and will continue to say that the "sky" falls for someone, or some country or town every single day. You can find positive and negative aspects in everyday. When we feel worried about what will happen in the US we are actually asking "will it happen to me or to those I care about?" Only by comparing the events of the day with an individual chart can that be known. I am boggled by the amount of fear we have all lived with for 4 years. Fear of terrorists, the economy, the environment, George Bush, Iraq, North Korea and the list goes on and on, I keep thinking the day will come when we will collectively rise up and say NO MORE. Posted by: Sally on October 31, 2004 06:36 AM"Those of you in Flordia and Ohio are going to get some much needed help" "FILMMAKER MICHAEL MOORE TO HAVE CAMERAS AT POLLING PLACES" Politics - AP The director of the anti-Bush documentary "Fahrenheit 9/11" announced Saturday that a total of 1,200 professional and nonprofessional cameramen, filmmakers and videographers will bring their cameras to polling places in the two presidential battleground states, especially in minority communities. "I'm putting those who intend to suppress the vote on notice: Voter intimidation and suppression will not be tolerated," Moore said in a statement. Posted by: Bushfatigued on October 31, 2004 06:46 AMDear Astroworlders: I've been at Daily Kos a lot lately, it is ripe with information. I recommend this diary to anyone who may be doubting the outcome of this election. As Pat would say, it will make you smile!! http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/10/30/211923/35 Posted by: Laurie on October 31, 2004 06:48 AMbushfatigued, thanks for the nbc email address (nightly@nbc.com). just sent them this: -------------- I'd like you to know that this is an affront to all decent Americans (Republicans, Democrats & Independents) and to the dignity of such an important national event. I vow the following: This is a disgrace. However, the network that would give a national show to Michael Savage is a network that will do just about anything. The Vote of a Lifetime... http://www.rense.com/general58/voteof.htm Posted by: wv on October 31, 2004 10:55 AMHacking the Presidency??? http://tomflocco.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=100&mode=&order=0&thold=0 Posted by: wv on October 31, 2004 11:00 AM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,5051402-103682,00.html Posted by: wv on October 31, 2004 11:29 AMI don't know that it is being 'honest' in astrology to predict the death of another. As a matter of fact, most expert astrologers suggest one CANNOT do that... we are all going to die but I daresay no one knows the hour or the day... as for personal planets (inner ones) returning to natal position... I have that in my own chart and I have observed it countless times in other charts, none that I can recall bringing about the demise of the native. Although I am a student, I have used charts in my genealogy work and I have studied many others... I admit I still fall in the category of novice... Secondly, some of us have the philosophy that astrology only suggests opportunity and possibility... it does not PREDICT. Of course, when you have two people running for the same objective, one of them will win, and one lose. But if you believe in the collective energy, the idea of choice, you cling to the 'positive' or what you see as the positive, which for many of us is a Kerry win. We are down to the last couple of days, hours and I myself have the need for positive thoughts... so, I can see where Janet and some others are coming from... it's not about 'honesty' and certainly not about absolute honesty, as there is no such thing... it's about drawing the best possible outcome to you... I have cut the tv off 'til after the election... my preference, don't need those corpo-fascios telling me what to think... and I am surrounding myself with like-minded folk... meditating every waking moment on a Kerry win, hopefully a landslide... Jaycee, Thank you so much for correcting my earlier post. You are right, the prayer vigil is Monday night, not tonight. I seem to be mixing up my days, as they are all blending into one. :-) Siobhan, Remember the Red Sox fans --- "BELIEVE!!!" If present model for quantum physics is correct there are unknown numbers of dimensions... I'm headed for the one where Kerry wins... my choice. That's my rapture... Light to all. Posted by: Jo on October 31, 2004 12:33 PMWell, here's a new one for me. I never dream about politicians, famous figures. I don't know whose kids they were. Oh that's encouraging Mimi!!! Keep dreaming! Merriman on Star IQ is interesting today. Posted by: Pat C on October 31, 2004 01:29 PMOctober 31, 2004 Instead, it was Osama producing yet another video taunting the president and lecturing America. After bin Laden's pre-election commentary from his anchor desk at a secure, undisclosed location, many TV chatterers and Republicans postulated that the evildoer's campaign intrusion would help the president. O.B.L., they said, might re-elect W. They follow the Bush strategists' reasoning that since President Bush rates higher than John Kerry on fighting terror, anytime Americans get rattled about Iraq and Al Qaeda, it's a plus for the president. And Republicans can keep claiming that Al Qaeda wants the "weak" Democrat elected, even as some intelligence experts suggest the terrorists prefer that the belligerent Mr. Bush stay in power because he has been a boon to jihadist recruiting, with his disastrous occupation of Iraq and his true believer, us-versus-them, my-Christian-God's-directing-my-foreign-policy vibe. The Bushies' campaign pitch follows their usual backward logic: Because we have failed to make you safe, you should re-elect us to make you safer. Because we haven't caught Osama in three years, you need us to catch Osama in the next four years. Because we didn't bother to secure explosives in Iraq, you can count on us to make sure those explosives aren't used against you. You'd think that seeing Osama looking fit as a fiddle and ready for hate would spark anger at the Bush administration's cynical diversion of the war on Al Qaeda to the war on Saddam. It's absurd that we're mired in Iraq - an invasion the demented vice president praised on Friday for its "brilliance" - while the 9/11 mastermind nonchalantly pops up anytime he wants. For some, it seemed cartoonish, with Osama as Road Runner beeping by Wile E. Bush as Dick Cheney and Rummy run the Acme/Halliburton explosives company - now under F.B.I. investigation for its no-bid contracts on anvils, axle grease (guaranteed slippery) and dehydrated boulders (just add water) . Osama slouched onto TV bragging about pulling off the 9/11 attacks just after the president strutted onto TV in New Hampshire with 9/11 families, bragging that Al Qaeda leaders know "we are on their trail." Maybe bin Laden hasn't gotten the word. Maybe W. should get off the trail and get on Osama's tail. W. was clinging to his inane mantra that if we fight the terrorists over there, we don't have to fight them here, even as bin Laden was back on TV threatening to come here. The president still avoided using Osama's name on Friday, part of the concerted effort to downgrade him and merge him with Iraqi insurgents. The White House reaction to the disclosures about the vanished explosives in Iraq was typical. Though it's clear the treasures and terrors of Iraq - from viruses to ammunition to artifacts - were being looted and loaded into donkey carts and pickups because we had insufficient troops to secure the country, Bush officials devoted the vast resources of the government to trying to undermine the facts to protect the president. The Pentagon mobilized to debunk the bunker story with a tortured press conference and a satellite photo of trucks that proved about as much as Colin Powell's prewar drawings of two trailers that were supposed to be mobile biological weapons labs. Republicans insinuated that it was a plot by foreign internationalists to help the foreigner-loving, internationalist Kerry, a U.N. leak from the camp of Mohamed ElBaradei to hurt the administration that had scorned the U.N. as a weak sister. In their ruthless determination to put Mr. Bush's political future ahead of our future safety, the White House and House Republicans last week thwarted the enactment of recommendations of the 9/11 commission they never wanted in the first place. While pretending to be serious about getting a bill on reorganizing intelligence agencies before the election, the White House never forced Congressional Republicans to come to an agreement. So the advice from the panel that spent 19 months studying how the government could shore up intelligence so there wouldn't be another 9/11 may be squandered, even though Dick Cheney's favorite warning to scare voters away from Mr. Kerry is that we might someday face terrorists "in the middle of one of our cities with deadlier weapons than have ever before been used against us," including a nuclear bomb. Wow. I feel safer. Don't you? Posted by: Jo on October 31, 2004 01:47 PMCherie Blair lambasts Bush over human rights NICHOLAS CHRISTIAN
The Prime Minister’s wife was condemned by supporters of the US President, after a speech to Harvard law students which contained a stinging rebuke to Bush, while on a lecture tour of the United States. She attacked the manner in which the White House has dealt with the human rights of UK citizens detained at the US-run Camp X-Ray prison at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba. http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/politics.cfm?id=1259162004 Posted by: Jo on October 31, 2004 02:07 PMOh I'm so glad Cherie Blair did that! It needs to happen and happen and happen! Posted by: Pat C on October 31, 2004 02:32 PMTranscript http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/79C6AF22-98FB-4A1C-B21F-2BC36E87F61F.htm Posted by: Pat C on October 31, 2004 02:58 PMMars, these are my final words on being shortsighted. I am many things, shortsighted isn't one of them. In weighing most situations, I take in far too many bits and pieces to arrive at my conclusion. And, even after arriving at the conclusion, I'm painfully aware of all the info that isn't available. Pallas and Mars, I have been on this site since its inception and am aware of and excited by all ideas and information. But as bhatki says and I concur, some posts don't pass the smell test. Therefore, my post should be viewed "in context" of a response to a specific situation and not general thinking. But alas, this conversation is occurring because I didn't follow Sally's advice: Ignore posts we feel are freeper related or we just don't agree with. Keep in mind, Sally, I'm paraphasing, so the wording isn't exact. Posted by: Janet on October 31, 2004 03:06 PM
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/printer_110104Z.shtml Posted by: wv on October 31, 2004 03:28 PMMimi, love your dream. To me the big house with all the varied features is the US (with accessible roofs--our ideal that anybody can make it to the top.) Mike, that was a dynamite letter you sent re Rush Limbaugh as election commentator. How low can the networks get? Falwell is on as a representative of Christianity, and Limbaugh is on as a representative of Democracy. Puhleeze! Sally, I so agree with your metaphor of astrology forecasting and weather forecasting. I use that when discussing astrological predictions with skeptical friends--also when discussing causation. For example, "how can a planet so far away affect anyone on earth etc. etc.?" I say, "when the dogwoods bloom then the sunfish bite. We know it is a good time to go fishing. This doesn't mean that the dogwoods necessarily affect the fish. There is something bigger affecting both." Thanks for all you do. Posted by: Barbara on October 31, 2004 04:56 PMhttp://www.oilempire.us/fascism.html "The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, pull back the curtains, and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater."
I think you're referring to my post: "To the person who wished that astrologers would not continue giving astrological delineations or relate any "bad news" for fear that putting it into the ether would make it come true -: we don't make it happen, we just read the signs given to us in the heavens and deliver the message. " I guess what it comes down to is a difference in beliefs. That's O.K. I believe that what we put into the ethers does affect us. It’s known that the first radio broadcasts are still floating around in the ethers and can be picked up with equipment. I didn't mean to imply not to relate "bad" news. A person can have a "bad" transit, but what does that mean. If the person learns the lesson of the transit, is it "bad"? If the person (or country, etc. ) has worked through levels of the energies in the past, does it manifest in the same “bad” way for them as it would for someone who did not work through those energies? That’s part of the evolutionary process. We’re all learning. And we don't know how each aspect will play out for us. Astrologers do read signs. And they interpret those signs. If 10 astrologers decide on a particular interpretation, does that make them right? Or not? Is it majority rules? And yet what just one astrologer writes publicly has an impact not just on one person but on masses of peole. Here is a recent case in point. (I have nothing for or against Mr. Blasche. I am just using this as an example that I happened upon.) A thorough analysis by Robert Blasche in August 2004 strongly leans toward the possibility of a Terrorist Attack at the 2004 Olympic Games. And at the end of his article he asks people to pray and send light to the athletes. BOTTOM LINE: IT DIDN’T HAPPEN! 1.Was he “right” in his analysis? 2.Were there other possibilities for interpreting the planetary aspects. 3.If he was “right” did his bringing increased awareness to the people reading his analysis change the “possibility” of this happening” by people praying and sending light –by interacting with the planetary energies? My point is and always has been: when an astrologer gives an interpretation, why not give 2 or three interpretations within a range of possibilities, from the lowest to the highest and say- "These are the energies interacting with each other and here are a few ways that these might manifest." And if there is a “bad” aspect, my belief is that through awareness of it we can interact with it – as with people sending light to the athletes, to have an effect on the outcome. I have seen this happen in my own life with personal transits as I’m sure many of us have. It’s working from the inside out. I don’t believe planetary energies are something just out there that happen to us. I believe that these energies are within us as well as “out there” and that we are constantly interacting with them. Again this is my personal belief. And to me, this is the right action use of astrology. If most of the astrologers and pollsters said Bush was going to win, what would that do to Kerry supporters? Would you buy into it? Would it get you down and make it harder for you to believe that Kerry would win? What if they said Kerry was going to win? Would it uplift you? And would it make it easier to for you to buy into the belief that Kerry would win. That's why it is so important to stay grounded and focused on the outcome we want. Why not project the highest outcome. That's not putting a good or bad on it. It's choosing to resonate at a higher frequency level. Fear resonates at a very low level. As Sally mentioned, we have had four years of fear, so one of our lessons has been to look at fear and how we deal with it. Do we act like deer in the headlights, do we hide, do we fight, do we surrender, do we transform it? Each one of us has to answer those questions and the way we answer them not only affects us as individuals, but also the country and the planet as a whole. Bottom line, we do not know the outcome of this election. We can work for, pray for and project the outcome we want, and blessings to all those who are in the trenches, helping people get out the vote, and to all here writing letters, making phone calls, getting involved in whatever way we can. We can surround this election with light, knowing that we want only the highest good for our country and the planet. There is such a longing for this in the hearts and souls of so many people. When I was about 9 or 10 years old, I remember a question I often asked myself: “Why am I born here in the United States and not living as some poor peasant in China?” We are where we are for purpose. MAY WE ALL FULFILL THE PROMISE OF THAT PURPOSE. PEACE Posted by: Jaycee on October 31, 2004 06:46 PMACHIEVING GNOSIS OF THE DIVINE Hello Pat C: I absolutely love the posting about the quantum shift. I have been doing a lot of reading about similar matters. Is there a website that you can reference? I am specifically looking for discussion forum on these matters with an , mature, approach to spiritual matters on the order of consciousness expansion. Do you have any suggestions? Posted by: Beverly on October 31, 2004 08:11 PMHi Beverly, This is Tanga from California. I love this stuff.....Try "What is Enlightment" their website has a ton of information on the expansion of consciousness and great models like Don Beck's "Spiral Dynamics" model which illustrates the levels of consciousness. Also, see articles on the site discussing Ken Wilber's "Integral Model". It really helps one to understand where the planet is heading and whether we do it the dark way "re-electing Bush" or the smart way "Kerry", consciousness will continue to expand and evolve. Posted by: Tanga from California on October 31, 2004 08:28 PM
Packers 20 Redskins 7 Posted by: wv on October 31, 2004 08:48 PM
Hi Barbara. Here is the link for Paul Levy http://www.earthrainbownetwork.com/ and another of so many interesting links http://www.pamsastrology.freeservers.com/custom.html I wish I knew of a chat site where people have such conversations. This is the closest I have come to it. Sally has provided the best on the net. Tanga from California - Thanks! THANK YOU REDSKINS!!!! and to our wv for bringing such news! Posted by: Pat on October 31, 2004 09:38 PMWoops! This is Paul Levy's site. http://www.awakeninthedream.com/indexx.html I think it was wv who originally gave it to this site. Posted by: Pat C on October 31, 2004 09:44 PM
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/printer_110104W.shtml Posted by: wv on October 31, 2004 10:34 PMJanet, I sincerely hoped not to cause any offence with my "shortsighted" comment. It was just that yours was such a strange response to what I saw as a series of positive posts. As to being "freeper-related" and "not passing the smell test", I noticed that Bhakti posted a comment to the effect of :"what's that smell?" directly after my post. I chose to ignore that as I knew they could not possibly be responding to anything in my post. Maybe I missed something somewhere, but apologies - no offence intended. Peace Mars Posted by: mars on October 31, 2004 11:32 PMWell, there you go: Green Bay won, even if Favre got a little streaky toward the end. Just two more days, folks! I'll probably have broken out in hives by then. Mr. Mike, hope you enjoyed the game, the company, the beer, sausage and cheese. I don't have a tee-vee so no chance to see if you let Guido and Ouida May wear those silly little cheese-wedge hats. Yay!
***********BRED FAVRE IS GOD********* *******AL HARRIS IS THE SON OF GOD********* just got back from FedEx Statium, shrine to the gods of reason. great game. favre played with a bum hand and threw only two uncatchable passes. he had 296 passing yards. yikes!!! packer defensive back al harris intercepted the redskins pass that ended the game. yipee considering the fact that the stadium is sold out for about 10 years in advance, the 10% of the crowd vocally for the packers can be assumed to be of my ilk; people who value their superstitions above local team loyalty. i shall retire to read hp lovecraft in search of more pathways to influence the future. Posted by: mike on October 31, 2004 11:41 PMMars, : ), I get it. You thought we were responding to your posts. Absolutely not. Friends again? I hope so. Posted by: Janet on October 31, 2004 11:59 PMMars, one last thing, promise, it couldn't have been your post because with your past posts you've always brought goodies and interesting items to the table. And as I've learned on DU, many of us are sensitive and edgy right now because we are suffering from PEAD (Pre-Election Anxiety Disorder). Posted by: Janet on November 1, 2004 12:32 AMJust got back from my long trip to SF and am back to my new home in Oregon. Spent all day today catching up on all the articles and comments! I just wanted to share this with you: Yesterday I was walking through the living room and one news station was showing GWB's 2000 swearing in ceremony. The clip showed GWB giving his oath with Clinton standing off to the side. In a quick flash I zoned out and in my mind I saw Kerry swearing in and Bush standing off to the side! I just burst out laughing and sent thanks to the Universe for that little picture! Also, I can't tell you how many times a day a picture of the U.S. map just suddenly pops into my head and I see mostly all blue states! Thanks to whoever started that very helpful imagery! Kos has a piece up now on Voter fraud and disenfranchisement, with a sampling of what is going on from several states, beginning with WV... South Carolina had a lot of this in 2000... I talked with some Black sisters in Charleston who told me that in some of the predominately African American precincts, SC Highway patrolmen would block the street leading into the precinct and tell the folks trying to gain entrance that the poll had been closed due to some technical glitch and they could come back 'tomorrow' and vote! Honest to goodness... I got this from more than one source... Repugs also use flyers telling folks We have to put an end to this... another job in this massive clean-up we must undertake... P.S. to above: A demo came with plastic wrapper that covered her newspaper this a.m. The State newspaper (which has endorsed Inez Tannebaum for US Senate) with following info on it: Vote Freedom First blah blah paid for by NRA Poliltical Victory Fund ---------------- THIS IS JUST SO NOT RIGHT! the assumption from the average newspaper reader is that The State is endorsing DeMint... someone in the hdqtrs. said that she got her Augusta Chronicle paper YESTERDAY with same type of wrapper... I'm calling the newspapers first thing in the a.m. This is not tolerable! Have any of you found something similar to these on your papers (it was a sunny day! wonder who paid the person delivering the papers to 'wrap' them, which takes a lot of extra time?) Urghhh --- these fascists! Posted by: Jo on November 1, 2004 01:32 AMBreaking!!! Zogby cell poll has Kerry over Bush 15 points!!! Released: October 31, 2004 Young Mobile Voters Pick Kerry Over Bush, 55% to 40%, Rock the Vote/Zogby Poll Reveals: National Text-Message Poll Breaks New Ground link here: http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=919 Polling firm Zogby International and partner Rock the Vote found Massachusetts Senator John Kerry leading President Bush 55% to 40% among 18-29 year-old likely voters in their first joint Rock the Vote Mobile political poll, conducted exclusively on mobile phones October 27 through 30, 2004. Independent Ralph Nader received 1.6%, while 4% remain undecided in the survey of 6,039 likely voters. The poll is centered on subscribers to the Rock the Vote Mobile (RTVMO) platform, a joint initiative of Rock the Vote and Motorola Inc. (for more information: http://www.rtvmo.com). The poll has margin of error of +/-1.2 percentage points The poll also found that only 2.3% of 18-29 year-old respondents said they did not plan to vote, and another .5% who were not sure if they would. The results of the survey are weighted for region, gender, and political party. The Rock the Vote Mobile political poll was conducted using a sample group from Rock the Vote Mobile's 120,000-subscriber base. Participants in the Rock the Vote Mobile (RTVMO) platform, a civic engagement initiative launched last March by Rock the Vote and Motorola, Inc. (NYSE: MOT), responded to this poll between October 27 and October 30. "The results of this text-message poll mirror what we're seeing in our more conventional polls," said John Zogby, CEO and president of Utica, N.Y.-based Zogby International. "Among 18-29 year-olds, Kerry leads the President by 14 points--55% to 41% in our current daily tracking poll--virtually identical to these results. Our text-message poll seems to have been validated by this experiment. All in all, I think we've broken some new ground in polling. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/10/31/123911/68 Posted by: Pat C on November 1, 2004 01:43 AM This is beautiful.
This was one of the most moving, meaningful days of my life. My job is to get people to the polls and, more importantly, to keep them there. Because they’re crazily jammed. Crazily. No one expected this turnout. For me, it’s been a deeply humbling, deeply gratifying experience. At today’s early vote in the College Hill district of East Tampa -- a heavily democratic, 90% African American community — we had 879 voters wait an average of five hours to cast their vote. People were there until four hours after they closed (as long as they’re in line by 5, they can vote). Here’s what was so moving: We hardly lost anyone. People stood outside for an hour, in the blazing sun, then inside for another four hours as the line snaked around the library, slowly inching forward. It made Disneyland look like speed-walking. Some waited 6 hours. To cast one vote. And EVERYBODY felt that it was crucial, that their vote was important, and that they were important. And there were tons of first time voters. Tons. Aside from some hassles from the Republican election commissioner ( … [ed.note: Here the letter writer describes various shenanigans intended to exacerbate the difficulties of waiting hours in line to vote. I’ve censored this detail to preserve the anonymity of the writer.], I actually had an amazing experience. No, actually, in a way because of that I had an amazing experience. Because these people know that the system that’s in place doesn’t want them voting. And yet they are determined to vote. The best of all was an 80 year old African American man who said to me: “When I first started I wasn’t even allowed to vote. Then, when I did, they was trying to intimidate me. But now I see all these folks here to make sure that my vote counts. This is the first time in my life that I feel like when I cast my vote it’s actually gonna be heard.” To see people coming out — elderly, disabled, blind, poor; people who have to hitch rides, take buses, etc — and then staying in line for hours and hours and hours... Well, it’s humbling. And it’s awesome. And it’s kind of beautiful. Sometimes you forget what America is. I think there’s hope. ES Nothing to add ... -- Josh Marshall Posted by: Pat C on November 1, 2004 01:52 AMI received a very strange phone call this afternoon. A man called and asked me if I was so and so, to which I replied yes, and he then proceeded to identify himself as Frank Farkas, whom I know to be the Republican candidate in my district, running against Democrat Liz McCallum for the Florida House, and for whose campaign I am working; but I decided to listen to what he had to say before letting him know that I knew who he was. Well, to my surprise, he proceeded to berate Bush without mentioning the word "Republican" which I found very strange, and he then advised me that when I go to the polls, I should vote for Farkas. I then replied, "but isn't Farkas the Republican candidate who's running against Liz McCallum?" He started chukling, then said "Oh yeah, but I'm not that Farkas, I'm a different Farkas, not affiliated with any political party". I said to myself "yeah, right!", like I'm that dotty. Really, what this guy was doing (whether he was the actual Frank Farkas or not), was trying to get me to vote for him without letting me know that he was running on a Republican ticket, but I blew his cover, so he quickly ended the conversation and hung up. Of course his phone# id was blocked, so I couldn't identify him. I'm sure he knew that I was a registered Democrat, and was trying to somehow get me to vote Republican. Just beware of the dirty tricks campaign some of the Repubs are resorting to, in order to get your vote. If you aren't aware of the names of the candidates you are voting for, you could very well end up voting for the wrong one! Hope there are not too many uninformed Democrats out there.!!! Posted by: Crystal on November 1, 2004 01:53 AMDrat! Between Halloween and the time change I totally forgot to watch 60 Minutes tonight. Did anybody catch it? Did they air the sequence about the Iraq munitions dump being left unguarded? Did they mention it was because the 101st was under orders to race to the oil pipeline to guard that? Been giving out candy on the front porch of my daughter's house in one of the three most liberal neighborhoods in Atlanta. The funniest costume was a 10-year-old neighbor who wore a shirt and tie and under the shirt was somehow bulging with muscles. Instead of "trick or treat" he said in a sort-of German accent, "Don't be an economic girly man."
Thanks, Crystal--I thought I had heard all the dirty political tricks but that is new to me. Guess we ought to pass that info on. Posted by: Barbara on November 1, 2004 02:04 AMBarbara, Sad to say CBS folded... they carried a segment on lack of support for the troops... in respect to humvees that are not properly enforced to protect --- particularly the underside... mentioned how vulnerable they are to attack by roadside bombs... then went on to talk about lack of radios, ammunition and bulletproof vests... now I was late to the program, which was delayed because of the preceeding football game... but I don't think they mentioned the munitions... then there was a segment on Ahhhnnnold... (do you believe...?) silly fluff about why did such a successful actor give up career... blah, blah, I turned down sound and went back to computer -- few mins later ret'd to tv to see Leslie Stahl doing a segment on SNL producer M Lorne... BIGGGG disappointment... makes me angry with myself for turning tv on briefly expecting to see program on munitions... won't turn tv on again next two days for sure... Posted by: Jo on November 1, 2004 02:21 AMNow I just learned the Redskins lost. So what is it that is the superstition? If the Redskins lose the incumbent won't be re-elected? Is that it? Please say that's it.
Jo wrote: "I don't know that it is being 'honest' in astrology to predict the death of another." In fact it is considered unethical for most astrologers to predict the death of a person - except in some political matters, and especially when an American President is elected in a 0 year - which is, has been, and probably always be a matter of great interest and excessive study by astrologers. Jo, if someone asks me about their death or a loved ones' death, my standard answer is that is between God and that person's soul - - - -and no astrologer can tell you. But in fact many "expert" astrologers, such as Noel Tyl or Al Martin CAN, and do predict certain person's deaths (including their own as in the case of Nostrodamus) - to the day, again usually in the political arena as far as I know and not otherwise. Another precept of ethical astrologers, like doctors, is "Cause No Harm". As Sally says, we usually, to a client, would not give bad news, but suggest carrying an umbrella when the potential for rain is seen in the person's chart. I think, we as astrologers, do what we can to help people within the boundaries of the ethical rules we adhere to. But, Mundane astrology is a different matter. Political or World events such as earthquakes or volcanoes or wars or the fall of a politician do not follow the same rules of reading a personal or client's chart. And these are Predictive matters. True many astrologers do not do predictive astrology. I do predictive astrology. I wonder Where was the wringing of hands when a year ago exactly I predicted astrologically (<a href="http://www.astroworld.us/archives/000327.html#000327) as a guest author, the coming downfall of the boyking and Halliburton when Pluto would hit his South Node, as it is now. How is it there were no cautions of putting negative ether in the air about the "selected" one at that time? I certainly do not wish John Kerry any ill. I've worked my buns off to have him elected. However, the aspects indicate John Kerry is in danger after the time period of the elections. And I'm so certain of that, that when I acted as usher for Edwards' speech, I asked a secret service man if they were using an astrologer and mentioned that I thought Kerry would be in danger after the election. At Friday's speech by Kerry in West Palm, again at which I was an usher, I have not seen as much security and secret service for him before. If astrology had anything to do with that increased security, then astrology has done something good. Hopefully, we may never hear of it, because transiting Mars is on Kerry's 12th house Sun at 18 Sag on Jan 20, 2005 ( Leo is on Kerry's 8th cusp), T Mars is conjunct T. Pluto in the 12th opposite Kerry's natal Saturn in the 6th house of health matters, and T Saturn is semi sextile John Kerry's natal Saturn in his 6th house. Heart, back, bones, health, attack. A broken finger or bone would actually be good. :) These are not beneficial aspects. There is not a way to wish them happy aspects. These are aspects of personal attack in Kerry's chart which could be kept secret,and hopefully something which we will never hear of... health problems. I've wondered about the tanning Kerry has appeared with in the last month. You'll recall that John F. Kennedy always kept a tan to cover up his ill health. Meanwhile, not astrologically, but a feeling, I'm beginning to think Kerry may have a landslide in Florida.
Pallas, for the past seventeen years if the Redskins won the game before the election the incumbent remained in office. If they lost, the challenger won the election. I do believe it is seventeen years, but I'm not positive. Posted by: Pat C on November 1, 2004 02:35 AMNovember Surprise? A rumor from a reliable source suggests that there's a good chance that Tommy Thompson is set to announce that drug reimportation from Canada will be fully legalized. I'm sure that, if this happens, it'll be a big "read the fine print" bait and switch. Treat as rumor until confirmed, presumably at a 10AM or so press conference... ...or, more generally, it could be some other major senior pandering drug thing... ...just to add, this is *rumor* as I said. I wouldn't publish unless I thought it was a plausible rumor, but that doesn't mean it's a *true* rumor. I normally don't traffic in too many unconfirmed things, but this close to the election there's value in putting this stuff out there before the fact. Hmmmmm, are they just a little bit scared? Kerry in a landslide!!!!! Posted by: abilene on November 1, 2004 02:37 AMThanks Pat C Therefore the Redskins lost and the incumbent loses Yay Kerry ! Landslide ..YESssss! I have to tell you, I and many others have noticed, I've never seen people volunteering and This is Patriotism ! Young, old, black and white people - we're all out there working together - strangers to each other offering to help canvass, hand out voter palm tickets and flyers together.... you've never seen anything like it. I've never seen anything like it and I've been involved on and off in volunteering in elections since I was 18 years old. It's phenomenal. America knows. Posted by: Pallas18 on November 1, 2004 02:55 AMJo, thanks very much for the word on 60 Minutes. Why am I surprised that they folded? Drat, dang, and even dammit! The unshielded Humvees are the perfect GOP vehicle--all appearance of invunerability but none of the reality. Just as John Wayne was the embodiment of the GOP hero--he played a "my country before myself" hero in the movies while he was enjoying a deferment from WW II. Tonight while the veil is thin I'm going to say a little prayer for the Real Deal. Posted by: Barbara on November 1, 2004 02:59 AMIn spite of the media Pallas. Even the Red Sox cooperated. Posted by: Pat C on November 1, 2004 02:59 AMColin Powell Believes U.S. is Losing Iraq War ASIA TIMES In all likelihood, US troops and the nascent Iraqi military will storm the rebel city of Fallujah in the very near future. The so-called "City of Mosques" has been under sustained air assault for several weeks, and US commanders now speak openly about the looming offensive. The fact that the administration of US President George W Bush is even contemplating a new offensive suggests it has not re-evaluated this reliance on military force that has characterized its failed counterinsurgency strategy to date. Rather than change course to pursue a political compromise with the insurgents, however, the Bush administration has pressed on and spun its travails by laying responsibility for the insurgency on "foreign fighters" and uber-terrorist, Jordanian-born Abu Musab Zarqawi - even though most analysts argue that the insurgency is overwhelmingly Iraqi. The most obvious explanation for the administration's intransigence is that, having included Iraq in the "war on terror", it can hardly negotiate with the "terrorist" insurgents, especially during an election at home. But the problem is deeper than the administration's ideological rigidity. In fact, few in the US mainstream have questioned the morality or utility of crushing a nationalist insurgency or advocated a distinct alternative. Rival presidential candidate John Kerry, for one, has attacked the Bush administration for being too soft on the rebel cities. And public opposition in the US to its military's actions has been slow to coalesce, especially with the mainstream media largely sympathetic to the government's characterization of the Iraqi opposition. Because the US public imbibes much of its news about Iraq from television, which offers only a thin, uncritical filter of the administration's spin, many Americans, while understandably preoccupied with the 1,111 US military deaths, are only dimly aware of the immense Iraqi death toll and the resentment born of US military excess. And with the "war on terror" now neatly folded into the Iraqi uprising, there is little discussion of the ethical implications of suppressing it. Even when the media transcend their 'Zarqawi fetish', it is only to focus on the role of ex-regime loyalists and Islamic extremists, who are rendered illegitimate by the very terminology used to represent them. skip Difficult as it may be for whatever US administration that emerges after next week's election to stomach, sitting down with the Iraqi opposition, violent or otherwise, may be the only way to ensure Iraq's long-term stability and a US exit. The Sharm el-Sheikh conference in particular could be an ideal forum to encourage that opposition, whose only common demand has been a US military withdrawal, to propose a viable political alternative to the status quo. If the singular focus on military force as a means of conflict resolution continues, however, with a new attack on Fallujah, there may be little prospect of lasting reconciliation. Ashraf Fahim is a freelance writer on Middle Eastern affairs based in New York and London. http://atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/FJ30Ak03.html Posted by: Pat C on November 1, 2004 03:17 AMmy psychic hotline advisor inspired this. shylurker, your dream was a premonition of my attendance at the game and the packers victory. it also contained a pre-cognitive divine element. must see link: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v474/autorank/St.jpg Posted by: mike on November 1, 2004 03:21 AMSnopes on the Redskins All those cheese heads! Posted by: Pat C on November 1, 2004 03:23 AMThat was great, Mr. Mike. And you can tell it was taken from real life, too!! Posted by: shylurker on November 1, 2004 03:27 AMPat C--great Asia Times post. Some Brits have an interesting take on the similarity of Bush's & OBL's belief mechanisms. Digby posts it in his Hullabloo blog. Scroll down to "Baby It's Cold Outside": http:digbysblog.blogspot.com Everybody, your tolerance please for all these posts. My Chatty Cathy planet is activated. Posted by: Barbara on November 1, 2004 03:37 AMJo, Even though they dropped the weapons munition story, Myron (my husband) & I both thought that the piece about the army being so poorly armed was VERY powerful. People are dying without enough protective armour! They are reduced to using plywood & sandbags to armour their vehicles and there's a lack of bullets and other necessary supplies. The sight of the head of the Oregon National Guard sitting there on camera, practically unable to speak, finally saying that this was a bad situation that neither he nor the troops could control, and he could only hope it would improve...that spoke volumes. They then interviewed someone in the government who said that the insurgency was totally underestimated; hence, the lack of protection and weapons. We thought this story was pretty damning in itself. We did canvassing today (wearing only blue of course) and phone banking. My husband was chastized for tell the good folks at New Orleans Kerry HQ that he didn't think Kerry could win LA. He was politely told that no one in there wanted to hear that kind of talk. He and I had a talk in the car about intention and possibilities. He definitely learned something from that experience. Keep up the good work everyone, keep those positive thoughts coming, and keep the faith. Hold the vision and positive thoughts :-) Sharon Posted by: Sharon on November 1, 2004 03:47 AMhttp://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=214358 snip Fresh U.S. troops from the Louisiana-based 256th Enhanced Separate Brigade also were arriving in Baghdad, pushing the total presence of American forces presence in the Iraqi capital to an estimated 40,000 by Monday. Army units slated to depart were being held back until after the elections, causing the overall number of U.S. troops in Iraq to swell to around 142,000, the highest level since the summer of 2003. Posted by: Pat C on November 1, 2004 05:18 AMI just got back from the Tampa rally for Kerry and I must tell you, the man is on fire. He has a cold or something, laryngitis, but he willed his voice to come out clear and reassuring. It was by far the BEST speech I have ever heard. The man is on fire. Totally. These reports of his demise is upsetting, but I think he will have a victory and, like Pallas said, there is a reason for everything. It is funny that during the primaries I did not like Kerry at all. I wanted Dean. Now I know that the universe, in its wisdom, and a little help from Ohio(?), that Kerry triumphed, as Nancy said he would, that he is THE man of the hour, he is exactly what we need at this point in time. And he will prevail! I have fallen deeply in love with this John Kerry and I wish him the luck to do what he is impatient to do . . . to bring our country back. There were 10-12 thousand at this rally that could ill-afford any more and they may have had to turn people away. The crowd was so excited and John Kerry was on fire. He is going to win this thing, and the good part is he is fighting for the middle-class. Posted by: Laurie on November 1, 2004 05:27 AMAMEN! Posted by: Pat C on November 1, 2004 05:31 AMSharon, Your husband had an enlightening experience, with folks talking about intention, blessings on him for his tolerance... we are each of us learning every day, aren't we? I am impressed with the wisdom of some of the young people... seems older folk don't have a corner on that market! I wore teal green, but thanks for the reminder, today I will wear blue! light and blessings to you... I see LA blue!!! beautiful vision... namaste Posted by: Jo on November 1, 2004 12:33 PMI heard that Kerry got a bigger ovation than Bruce Springsteen in Wisconsin. These are indeed exciting, uplifting times as we see the tangible evidence of the collective moving towards the light. The 'smell' is the downward spiral. And I was offended by the post by 'w'. Certain posts come in clusters on one particular day by a cluster of the same names who do not regularly post. Have noticed this for quite a while. Posts will start to get into personal questions and throw off the dialogue. It is easy to be 'Sybil' in Cyberspace ;) Who here can tell us when they will take their last breath? When their heart beats it's last beat? However, on the microcasm we are in control. Ever since I marched at the RNC protests I have felt empowered by the People. The collective energy right now is so intense and for me uplifting. Feel jazzed mostly. Not into the downward spiral until after tomorrow. Like Jo, I need to tune out the SCUM and keep myself up and happy til this is over.
It’s not every day you get a message on your answering machine from Bill Clinton asking you to attend a Democratic rally for the presidential race. But I did get one...on Saturday. And I decided, what the heck...how often do you get a chance to go somewhere and stand for four hours and scream and yell and see a whole bunch of politicians, plus Danny Glover, plus Bill Clinton, plus a whole convention center crammed full of people wearing Kerry/Edwards stickers on their foreheads and in their hair and on their ties and on their clothes, and people with crazy political hats on, and people wearing full length Kerry/Edwards plastic bag dresses... And that’s what happened yesterday. At the State House Convention Center in Little Rock, Arkansas. Must have been at least a thousand people there. I was very lucky, got there reeeeeel early and got a good place to park(right across the street from the convention center), and got a good place in line, and got a very good place inside the convention center, so that I was only about 15 feet from Clinton when he spoke. I took a roll of film. If anything turns out I will try to get that posted today. Yours truly, OG Posted by: old granny on November 1, 2004 01:18 PMHello everyone, LET'S DREAM UP A NEW PRESIDENT People have been asking me if we should hold a 'vision' of how we want the election to turn out. The answer is most definitely yes, with a qualifier. Holding the vision of Kerry winning, for example, if it is coming from our clear seeing and open heart, has a profound potentiating and reality-creating effect which increases the probability of Kerry winning. If there are enough of us who are holding this vision, we can non-locally hook up with each other and 'draw into being,' into actual materialization, into incarnation our deeper vision. Paul Levy is a spiritually-informed political activist. He can be reached at paul@awakeninthedream.com. Please visit his website at www.awakeninthedream.com, where his article "The Madness of George Bush: A Reflection of Our Collective Psychosis" is available. Please feel free to pass this article along to a friend if you feel so inspired. © Copyright 2004.
The War on Iraq has made Moral Cowards of us all http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,5052226-103677,00.html Posted by: wv on November 1, 2004 01:41 PMhttp://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/01/opinion/01mon4.html?th http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/01/opinion/01herbert.html?th http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/01/opinion/01mon1.html?th http://www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/20041101.html?th On Nov. 1, 1952, the United States exploded the first hydrogen bomb, in a test at Eniwetok in the Marshall Islands. On Nov. 1, 1871, Stephen Crane, the American writer best known for his novel "The Red Badge of Courage," was born. Following his death on June 5, 1900, his obituary appeared in The Times. 1512 1604 1765 1861 1870 1936 1946 1950 1954 1973 1979 1991 1995 A Big Win in Ohio CINCINNATI - A federal judge issued an order early Monday barring political party challengers from polling places throughout Ohio during Tuesday's election. State Republicans planned to appeal. U.S. District Judge Susan Dlott found that the application of Ohio's statute allowing challengers at polling places is unconstitutional. She said the presence of challengers inexperienced in the electoral process questioning voters about their eligibility would impede voting. Mark Weaver, lawyer for the Ohio Republican Party, called the ruling erroneous and said the party would ask the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Cincinnati to overturn it. Dlott ruled on a lawsuit by a black Cincinnati couple who said Republican plans to deploy challengers to largely black precincts in Hamilton County was meant to intimidate and block black voters. Republicans said they wanted to prevent voter fraud. Dlott said in her order that the evidence "does not indicate that the presence of additional challengers would serve Ohio's interest in preventing voter fraud better than would the system of election judges." Posted by: Pat C on November 1, 2004 02:17 PM
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Good piece by Howell Raines.... http://www.sptimes.com/2004/10/31/news_pf/Perspective/Political_thuggery_in.shtml Posted by: wv on November 1, 2004 03:31 PMFrom Raines... Former New York Times executive editor Howell Raines on the Bushes: "My generation of political reporters bear some responsibility for this ethically bankrupt dynasty. We helped glorify big-city rogues like Richard Daley and urban icons like Rudy Giuliani as colorful character actors in the drama of democracy." Posted by: Pat C on November 1, 2004 03:40 PMI fell back to sleep after my earlier post and dreamt of meeting Kerry! We held hands and I told him how brave he was and this election was about the light destroying the dark. He was going to win. He agreed and we infused light to each other through our hands. My second vivid dream with him holding hands. That was synchronistic with WV's last post. Yes, we are God within and we the people are awakening to all of this throught the power of contradiction when our Free Choice is being taken away. On a positive note I'd like to thank * for uniting us all into the awakening. He has united the artists in my area like never before. He has united blacks, whites, arabs, jews, asians, hispanics, etc into voting him out. Pat C the post on the voting in FL and the 80 year old man being helped and heard for the first time put a lump in my throat and needed to take breaths to not cry, Beautiful. This is what democracy looks like. I too was not a Kerry fan in the primaries but he has shown me over and over again that he listens to us, he has a big hEARt. I really love him too. Light and Peace and we are all gonna be sooooo happy and feel empowered in 48 hours! Lovely dream bhakti, just lovely. May we all send beauty and grace to the hearts of Kerry and Edwards so that they can govern in and with that light. When so, the whole world prospers. Posted by: Pat C on November 1, 2004 03:55 PMhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A14510-2004Oct31?language=printer Unprecedented Efforts to Mobilize Voters Begin President Bush and challenger John F. Kerry unleashed the biggest and most aggressive voter-mobilization drives in the history of presidential politics yesterday, tapping hundreds of thousands of volunteers and paid organizers in a final effort to tip the balance in a handful of states where the election will be decided tomorrow. Mixing sophisticated techniques to identify their potential supporters with old-fashioned shoe leather and face-to-face contact to woo loyal and sporadic voters, the two campaigns will contact millions of Americans -- many of them more than once -- in the final hours of the campaign and then track their movements throughout Election Day to ensure they have gone to the polls. The unprecedented efforts underscore the conviction of officials in both campaigns that with the race so close in so many states, the key to victory depends more than in any recent campaign on their ability to win the battle of the streets. In Ohio, Florida, Wisconsin, Iowa and New Mexico, opposing armies fanned out under blazing sun or cold, drizzly skies to reach as many voters as possible. More... Posted by: Pat C on November 1, 2004 04:00 PMLunch break... how 'bout this bit of info? I've been wanting to post an entry (Joe's ought to work to start the discussion) about this Monday night stop for Bush in Dallas (like, instead of Florida!). There's gotta be a bigger reason. I think Bush & Rove have more than just getting home before dawn on their mind about Texas, Jerome W is coming to Dallas to rally for CD-32 candidate Pete Sessons tomorrow night. This isn't all that unusual since he is obviously headed to Crawford so he can vote on Tuesday, but with so many close congressional races in TX due to Tom Delay's illegal redistricting, they would send W to the race they are most worried about losing. This new congressional district is entirely in Dallas county, was drawn to specifically for Pete Sessions and to give the republicans an overwhelming advantage. It includes Highland Park, which is densly populated and 90% registered republicans. Why does this matter? I have posted a couple of times over the past week to report from Dallas county the extraordinary large turnout during early voting, the anti-Bush sentiment, and the suprising number of republicans (the highly educated and highly compensated ones) that have told me they are voting for Kerry and Martin Frost. If Kerry runs strong in the urban areas of a red state like TX, which it appears will be the case, he will overwhelmingly win the large urban areas of the blue and purple states which should give Kerry a solid victory. Tuesday is going to be a very interesting day. Diaries :: Joe's diary :: Sun Oct 31st, 2004 at 11:32:19 PM EST http://www.mydd.com/story/2004/10/31/23529/144 WV Posted the article by Paul Levy. How timely. The Progressed Sun of the United States moves into Pisces on Election Day, Tuesday, Nov. 2nd, and will stay there for the next 30 years. The Sun is how we radiate out. The Natal Sun of the US is in Cancer. Each progressed Sun is infused into the Natal Sun. What Piscean qualities do we as a country want to radiate out to the world? What is its highest possible expression through the United States consciousness for the next 30 years? Some words that describe Pisces are consciousness, spirituality, mysterious, fluid, watery, dreaming, boundless, awareness, empathy, compassion, peace, meditation, oneness. Its shadow is escape and deception– whether through retreat and avoidance, non-involvement, or escape through drugs, alcohol. How has the United States radiated its Cancerian essence out for the last 30 years as it incorporated the progressed sign of Aquarius? Aquarius is the sign of freedom and of individuality. It rails against and wants to break free from cultural pressures to conform to the established thinking and behaviors of tribal consciousness. It wants to think outside of the box, to break old paradigms and move into the new. The shadow side of Aquarius can be a condescending, know-it-all attitude, a selfishness, a self-righteousness, a stubbornness, an unflinching belief of knowing what the truth is or rebelliousness or self-interest without regard for others. We’re bringing forward the (hopefully) learned Aquarian lessons that we've incorporated into the Natal Cancer sun. Now we move to incorporate Pisces. Cancer is about nurturing. Cancer is about family. Pisces is about all humanity, all consciousness - a family of humanity. How interesting that this election is on the day that the US Progressed Sun is entering Pisces. What an opportunity to dream what we want into being! We have the 10PM (EST) meditation tonight. Also remember the 11 PM EST (8PM PST) Doreen Virtue Prayer Vigil for the U.S. Election http://p219.ezboard.com/fangeltherapyfrm1.showMessage?topicID=36.topic And reminder to light a candle . . . http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/enter.cfm
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/110104Y.shtml Posted by: wv on November 1, 2004 06:30 PMYes Bush Can Group Endoreses Kerry Posted by: wv on November 1, 2004 07:42 PM
http://www.vedicastro.com/US_Elections_2004_Edith.html Posted by: wv on November 1, 2004 08:02 PMThe latest from Michael Moore Friends, This is it. ONE DAY LEFT. There are many things I'd like to say. I've been on the road getting out the vote for 51 straight days so I haven't had much time to write. So I've put together a bunch of notes to various groups all in this one letter. Please feel free to copy and send whatever portions are appropriate to your friends and family as you spend these last 24 hours trying to convince whomever you can to show up and vote for John Kerry. Here are my final words. To Decent Conservatives and Recovering Republicans: In your heart of hearts you know Bush is a miserable failure. From having no plan on what to do in Iraq once he conquered Baghdad to the 380 missing tons of explosives that could be used to kill our brave young men and women, this guy doesn't have a clue how to fight and win a war. You should see the mail I've been getting lately from our troops over there. They know how much the Iraqi people hate them. They are sitting ducks anytime they go out on the road. Many believe we are not that far away from a Tet-style offensive inside the Green Zone with hundreds of Americans and Brits killed. To My Friends on the Left: Okay, Kerry isn't everything you wished he would be. You're right. He's not you! Or me. But we're not on the ballot - Kerry is. Yes, Kerry was wrong to vote for authorization for war in Iraq but he was in step with 70% of the American public who was being lied to by Bush & Co. And once everyone learned the truth, the majority turned against the war. Kerry has had only one position on the war - he believed his president. To Nader Voters: See the above note. To the Non-Swing States: Stop listening to how your vote doesn't count in this election and that your state is already decided for Kerry or Bush. It is critical that you vote because we not only need to give Kerry the electoral win, but he needs to have a HUGE mandate with an ENORMOUS popular vote victory as well. It will be impossible for him to get anything done for four years if there is no clear mandate. We must not only defeat Bush, we must put a stake in the heart of the right-wing, neo-con movement. If you live in New York, California, Illinois, Texas, the Northeast or the Deep South, you need to vote and you need to bring ten people with you to the polls. If you live in a state where we have the chance to elect the Democrat to the Senate or the House, you need to vote. Turn off the TV. Quit listening to news media that has a vested interest in repeating to you over and over that your vote does not count. It does. To Non-Voters: I understand why you stopped voting. Politicians suck. Nothing ever seems to change. You're only one vote. To All First-Time Voters: Welcome to the longest running, uninterrupted democracy on earth! You own it. It's yours. To African Americans: First of all, let's just acknowledge what you already know: America is a country which still has a race problem, to put it nicely. Al Gore would be president today had thousands of African Americans not had their right to vote stolen from them in Florida in 2000. To George W.: I know it's gotta be rough for you right now. Hey, we've all been there. "You're fired" are two horrible words when put together in that order. Bin Laden surfacing this weekend to remind the American people of your total and complete failure to capture him was a cruel trick or treat. But there he was. 3,000 people were killed and he's laughing in your face. Why did you stop our Special Forces from going after him? Why did you forget about bin Laden on the DAY AFTER 9/11 and tell your terrorism czar to concentrate on Iraq instead? To John Kerry: Thank you. That's it. See you at the polls - and at the victory party tomorrow night. Yours,
Love that guy!!!!! Posted by: Pat C on November 1, 2004 08:17 PMEveryone, Hello again from NZ. Thanks Jaycee and others for reminding us to stay on the positive side and work with the energies - it will take us all some time to work in a different manner - and thats what is the greater overall mission of the age. Keep reminding us to appeal to the higher ideals inside everyone (even baby bush) - its about changing the whole corrupt system and the players behind the scenes who have been there for decades. On another note, I was intrigued by the mention of NZ in one of the posts above. I have not been able to connect with the "guru" community here yet and learn more about things related to this part of the world, but am anxious to do so. Jeannie, how are you liking NZ? Posted by: Pat C on November 1, 2004 08:41 PMVenezuela's Electronic News -- http://www.vheadline.com BREAKING NEWS: Yes! The October 31, 2004 Venezuelan elections for Governors confirm reality! http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=23311 VHeadline.com commentarist Oscar Heck writes: As per the results thus far, 20 of 22 seats for governors were won by pro-Chavez candidates whilst only 2 of 22 were won by not-pro-Chavez candidates. This is an overwhelming show of support for the Chavez government ... and this, throughout the entire country! It further reinforces the fact that 1) true democracy does exists in Venezuela, 2) the Chavez government is much more popular than the anti-Chavez, anti-democratic movements have been trying to claim. More.... Posted by: Pat C on November 1, 2004 08:43 PMTO: The day after the election, what’s the column if Kerry wins? PK: Do not be magnanimous in victory. I hope the people around him understand that this is not politics as we know it. It’s not, “OK, well, we won an election. After the election we’ll get together and work in a bipartisan way to help the country.” They didn’t work in a bipartisan way when the United States was attacked. They immediately saw it as a way to achieve political dominance. Kerry has got to understand that he has a window of opportunity to expose what’s going on and to rock these people back to the point where we can try to reclaim the normal workings of democracy. Unless there’s a true miracle and the Democrats take the House—which is extremely unlikely—it’s going to be very bitter political civil war from Day One. The House leadership will try to undermine Kerry. I’m sure they’ll try to impeach him almost immediately. On anything. We can go on and on about Tom DeLay, but the point is Tom DeLay is not an aberrant thing. He’s not an accident. The whole thrust of where we’ve been going for a couple of decades in this country has been towards putting someone like Tom DeLay in a position of great power. So, my column to Kerry, my open letter to him if he wins, will be: Do not be magnanimous. You need to expose and dismantle this machine. MORE, more, more Posted by: Pat C on November 1, 2004 09:03 PMhttp://texasobserver.org/showArticle.asp?ArticleID=1777 Link for above Posted by: Pat C on November 1, 2004 09:05 PMHi PatC Posted by: Jeanie on November 1, 2004 09:07 PM Pallas 18, "Young, old, black and white people - we're all out there working together - strangers to each other offering to help...." It reminds me of how people act after a major disaster. God knows * has been a one. Please continue to tell us of your experiences because they are wonderful to read. I eat up anything I can find about what is happening at the polls. Old Granny, I'm so jealous! How I would love to get a message from Clinton! Even if it's just a recording. All I've been getting are the repug recordings...I hang up before the second word is spoken (I'm in MN). Kerry in a landslide!!!!! Posted by: abilene on November 1, 2004 09:26 PMNice article by Maya del Mar - certainly looks like regime change from her perspective - and more than just the surface prezzie figurehead. Yeaaaahh!! John Kerry today at a Milwaukee rally: "This is a kind of magical moment that we get to in the last hours of the most blessed gift on the face of the planet, our democracy, your vote." "You get to choose and change the direction of this country. And tomorrow, the choice of a lifetime is on that ballot." This is the moment of accountability for America," Kerry said. "All of the hopes and dreams of our country are on the line today. The choice is clear." Posted by: Jaycee on November 1, 2004 09:36 PMAbilene, hear hear! I'm in the Northern California Bay Area and I'm getting calls from Rudy Guiliani for Bush (hung up quick), unbelieveable, a phone recording from Kerry, Edwards, Clinton would be great, those I'd listen to! Got one also from Jerry Brown against the Proposition to change the 3 strikes law. And one from another Republican running for state assembly, what they think I'm gona change my spots? Moi? Posted by: Morgana on November 1, 2004 09:38 PMRobert Fisk - Bin Ladens message was for Bush http://207.44.245.159/article7198.htm Posted by: wv on November 1, 2004 09:50 PM
http://www.astropro.com/forecast/predict/2004-11.html Posted by: wv on November 1, 2004 10:11 PMPosted by holden (first-draft) on Monday, November 01 @ 12:01:20 EST (167 reads) Oh, this is so much fun. Freeper Matt Kennedy has his panties all in a bunch because the latest Osama terra tape did not scare American's into the arms of Dear Leader. Matt's conclusion: American's are a bunch terra-lovin' of pussies. I am not certain what is happening or what happened over the weekend, but morale has dipped far further than I have seen it throughout the entirity [sic] of this campaign. I don't know why most of the weekend polls including Gallup show a Kerry push. But there is one very ugly possibility. I was certain that the OBL tape would give president Bush a huge push going into Tuesday because I assumed that the American people are made of sterner stuff than the Spanish. But, perhaps this is untrue? Perhaps 30-40 years of therapeutic counseling rather than moral instruction has turned this nation into a large group of sniveling appeasers? I hope not. I think not. But maybe. Maybe the OBL tape has hurt the president because the American people no longer possess the moral fortitude to face down evil? Oh, those poor little rich repugs no longer have anything to run on. I'm just sitting here in puddle of tears. Kerry in a landslide!!! Posted by: abilene on November 1, 2004 10:33 PMPosted by wv at November 1, 2004 10:11 PM ..well that wasn't very encouaging. He picks Bush! Posted by: Mark on November 1, 2004 10:46 PMBush's Big Gamble If there is a purgatory, lots of us will be doing some hard time to cleanse our souls of the nastiness of this campaign. Lord knows I haven't felt this partisan in my life, and I've been an obsessive political junkie since 1960. But if anyone should be fearing actual hellfire for political sins, it's the president and his people, who have deliberately, with malice aforethought, engineered this situation, in the pursuit of raw power. Should Bush win his big gamble, there's absolutely no reason to believe it will lead to anything other than more of the same. It's a good read. These thugs gotta go. Kerry in a landslide!!! Posted by: abilene on November 1, 2004 11:10 PMMark, Noelle may or may not be credible, since he rarely dabbles in political astro. Also, according to Nancy, he has an incorrect reading of Pluto's degree (or something like that). Plus, he's a hard core republican, not that that should matter. Posted by: Janet on November 1, 2004 11:36 PMHelp. Poll at msn.com for NBC asks if the election were held today who would you vote for? A Kerry landslide? Eric Alterman Well, what is there to say? Nothing, I fear, I haven’t said already. OK, I’ll say this. I predicted a Kerry win about two weeks ago based on new registration numbers and the inability of pollsters to reach new voters, which would go overwhelmingly for Kerry—or more accurately, against Bush. I’m sticking with that one. All that poll-thumbsucking will prove to be a massive, misleading waste of time, just as it did four years ago, as yesterday’s "news" turns into tomorrow’s fish and chips paper. I’ll go further, I think there’s at minimum, a twenty-five percent chance—maximum, forty-percent chance--of a Kerry landslide. As everything in the news recently—including Mr. bin Laden, who by the way, can apparently run AND hide (at least so long as his enemies are off fighting imaginary terrorists thousands of miles away as he sits pretty among his warlord protectors)--has served to remind voters of what an unprecedented disaster this administration is. Bush, Cheney and Rove have sought to scare people silly—literally—to try to convince them to forget how asleep at the switch they were before September 11th; how panicky they were on the day of the attack, and how mendacious, ideological and incompetent they’ve been virtually every day since. Much of the mainstream media has bought into their campaign of fear, but I don’t think ultimately, all that many Americans will. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3449870/ Posted by: Jo on November 1, 2004 11:48 PMLike most of you, I feel I've done just about everything I could... except for more GOTV tomorrow and of course the back-to-back meditation tonight... looks good here in Carolina. 'course I'm not naive enough to think we will go blue... but a gal can dream... and we did have a huge registration drive, and I went door-to-door a little this afternoon, in between phone banking, and I have to say the African Americans are going to the polls tomorrow... they have been voting early all week... Inez may squeak by to take the Senate seat... hard to say, DeMint has smeared her as a 'baby killer'... Anyway, I am tired... physically and emotionally, as I am sure y'all are too... tomorrow will be really long... and tonight we must rest and send prayers and light for tomorrow... my head and my gut says this contest is ours... Kerry will win, and I believe with a landslide... (she says crossing her fingers and toes!) Want to thank ALL of you, for all the love and light you have sent in your words of encouragement to the rest of us (that is what has been 'radiating' out here at a-world --- USA progSun moving into Pisces will radiate more of the same, for the whole world --- new commander in chief coming aboard, you know --- feel the love!) --- I don't know how we would have made it without each other, do you? Most of all, my love and thanks to Cap'n Sally for this site, and for all that she does to make it such a special place... and to those who write the wonderful interesting and enlightening articles.... We begin a new cycle shortly... 'Hope is on the way'... a new beginning and much work to be done. Hope you don't think I am premature here... I feel it in my bones... though, and just wanted to express it. Rove, after all is still just a human, not a superman, just a boogey man... and we've held the flashlight in all the corners and under the bed... so we can sleep, knowing that we are stronger in our awareness... in our hope... in our love for one another and the planet. Namaste Posted by: Jo on November 2, 2004 12:13 AM
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/110204V.shtml Posted by: wv on November 2, 2004 12:22 AMHi, Hi all, well I have been sick with the cold/flu/upper respiratory hell since last Thursday....my mind has been as blank as a zen retreat at midnight...is this what healing is? I didn't like the aspects for Kerry, after I got the predictive astrology letter...because my granddaughter has Mars Rx and Pluto in the 12th, opposing her Jupiter (not a bad thing, I guess) ....but she is 3 years old, so I will just keep her surrounded by healing light. To kind of play off some of the themes going on, meaning the prediction for Kerry, I would like to share some of the visuals of healing, the way I was taught (Berkeley Psychic Institute)....It helps to have teams of people....one person gets the chakras spining into motion, front and back (sometimes the back gets forgotten); a second removes ALL of the alien energies (relatives, lovers, friends, doctors, etc, and ALL of their expectations) from the person's aura, creating a space for just THEM....those expectations interfere with the healing of the spirit; a third removes all of the 'eggs' of trouble from the timeline for the persons past lives and future lives; they then have the space to decide on what their healing will be. And so on...it would be a great excercise for all of us as a group. Perhaps Kerry's health will be a problem, in which case, Edwards has an agreement spiritually with Kerry and we should not be sad....or perhaps the evildoers (boy is THAT word going to haunt the rethugs) will assassinate Kerry....OR maybe we will practice making that space for Kerry to determine what the best thing for the country would be in terms of the future.....and he will. He's been here before, I am sure he will do what is necessary. I loved that Cronkite fingered Rove on the OBL tapes...I hate that Larry King remained mum. Posted by: judi gemini on November 2, 2004 12:23 AMJo...my pendulmn for the last three weeks has predicted a huge landslide....and on the Daily Show when John Zogby was a guest, he said it would be Kerry also...because of the way the undecideds break to the challenger, and because of the cell phone situation. Funny, I can't remember how Alice got home again....after her tour of Wonderland....anyone know? Did she get a new pill? hmmmmm.....well, we know Dorothy got home alright! Posted by: judi gemini on November 2, 2004 12:29 AMRemember folks, we are SPIRITUAL BEINGS on a Peace, Love, Harmony and Perfection to ALL of Richard Knolle is a Republican in Arizona...not to hard to figure out that he is going for Bush.... my friend in Arizona, who is poll watching for the Dems, sent this ACT email...this is some of it: maybe you all have already seen it, but anyway... Please contribute now at: http://contribute.actforvictory.org
Here are some of our final adjustments and specific things we need your help with today:
Weather, weather, weather we win:
It's too hot in Florida and the lines at the polls are up to 3 hours long, so ACT is shifting some resources into taking care of people standing in the voting lines by buying water, chairs, and tarpaulins for shade. $100 dollars will fund these needs at a single polling location in Florida. It's going to be wet in the Midwest, with rain expected on Election Day. We're lining up thousands of ponchos to keep the canvassers moving and keep the voters in line to cast their vote. A box of 20 ACT ponchos costs $78.99. Judi Gemini - I liked your chakra cleaning method, and the thought that perhaps Edwards and Kerry have a spiritual agreement...in case anyone hadn't noticed there seemed a genuine closeness and warmth once they got to know each other - how could there not be? They have Venus opposition Venus natally - they could not help but like each other and have awareness and understanding of each other's values. I'm going to make this a quick one....meant not to work all day but ended up from 9 to 6:30 - trying to get a little rest - so I can enjoy myself, NOT WORK, at Edwards' last rally with Jimmy Buffett giving a concert. Went out canvassing door to door in the black and Next I grabbed two good looking young fellows, one Hispanic, who it turns out flew in from Oregon to help....and they passed out voter palm tickets, and a gal who drove in from Michigan...and put her in front of a supermarket.... Back at Delray HQ - you walk into a madhouse...the buzz, the 40 or more men and women talking on phones, so many that tables were moved Here's the other side --- if anyone knows Michael Moore and can get to him - Theresa LePore had a photographer arrested today who was taking pictures of the voting lines.....she says NO PICTURES (bitch), she has decided people don'twant to be photographed ... so someone please warn Michael Moore . IMHO she just doesn't want pictures of people with walkers standing on line for four hours to vote because she refused to put enough machines out, and many that she did broke. Also the news is people are receiving phone calls telling them their voting place is changed. False I know, I absolutely know within my gut that we Kerryites have won Florida. It has to be big. But that doesn't mean there isn't going to be plenty of trouble....(reports from HQ today of plenty of trouble at the three local polling places) thank goodness, in a way, that early voting is over, because LePore was threatening to stop the early voting or make the poll greeters go away.....what a beeeeetch...anything to help her master, eh what... I dont think she can close the polls on election day.. smile. So that's the story... Sharon - your signs have been going up - and more now to rest for an hour. Later guys.... And I'll yell to Edwards - we luv ya, for all of you. Posted by: Pallas18 on November 2, 2004 12:47 AMDuring this campaign I have asked you for so much -- your time, your energy, and your financial support. Today, I ask you for one final thing -- your vote. Tomorrow, Americans will face a choice. How will we find our way forward? How will we keep America safe, and keep the American dream alive? I believe we begin by giving this country we love a fresh start. This morning, I would like to give you as plainly as I can the summary of my case on how -- together -- we can change America. I believe we begin by moving our economy, our government, and our society back in line with our best values. I believe we do whatever it takes to lead our troops to success and bring them home safe. And when they do come home, I believe we begin by rebuilding an America with a strong middle-class where everyone has the chance to work and the opportunity to get ahead. Tomorrow, you can choose a fresh start. You can choose a president who will defend America and fight for the middle-class. You can choose between four more years of George Bush's policy to ship jobs overseas and give tax breaks to the companies that do it -- or a president who will reward the companies that create and keep good jobs here in the United States of America. Tomorrow you will face a choice between four more years of George Bush's giveaways to the big drug companies and the big HMOs -- or a president who will finally make health care a right, and not a privilege, for every American. This election is a choice between four more years of tax giveaways for millionaires along with a higher tax burden for you -- or a president who will cut middle-class taxes, raise the minimum wage, and make sure we guarantee women an equal day's pay for an equal day's work. Tomorrow, America faces a choice between four more years of an energy policy for big oil, of big oil, and by big oil -- or a president who finally makes America independent of Mideast oil in ten years. A choice between George Bush's policy that just yesterday showed record profits for oil companies and record gas prices for American consumers. I believe that America should rely on our own ingenuity and innovation, not the Saudi Royal family. Tomorrow this campaign will end. The election will be in your hands. If you believe we need a fresh start in Iraq; if you believe we can create and keep good jobs here in America; if you believe we need to get health care costs under control; if you believe in the promise of stem cell research; if you believe our deficits are too high and we're too dependent on Mideast oil then I ask you to join me and together we'll change America. I ask for your vote and I ask for your help. When you go to the polls bring your friends, your family, your neighbors. No one can afford to stand on the sidelines or sit this one out. And in return for your hard work, you have my commitment to always fight for you, to always be on your side. In the words of Bruce Springsteen that have become the theme of this campaign. "We've made a promise we swore we'd always remember...no retreat and no surrender." Tomorrow we will change America and with your help I will always keep that promise to you. Thank you, John Kerry
Not a Subscriber? Paid for and authorized by the Democratic National Committee, www.democrats.org. This communication is not authorized by any candidate or candidate's "Each time a man stands up for an ideal or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope... these ripples build a current that can sweep down the mightiest of walls of oppression and resistance. John Kerry 1967 Posted by: h11 on November 2, 2004 12:55 AMPallas 18, Thanks for the update. You're making it happen! Kerry in a landslide!!! Posted by: abilene on November 2, 2004 01:07 AMFor the person who wrote about the misleading phone calls in Michigan, here is a link to a story....http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2004/11/01/politics1339EST0578.DTL Pallas, I have been sending your email messages to my friend Ann in Phoenix...she is probably on lines nn Tucson, she thought, tomorrow, but your emails are so delightful....I'd defintely go with you anywhere ....trouble is, youre in FL and I am in SF!!! Where we so far don't need too much activism for the polls (just for the hotel workers who are locked out of their jobs)...and I am posting a link to a colum by Joan Ryan which is fascinating about how our mayor Gavin Newson has developed his activist ways....when you all have time, this is the early years of a Dem. Star....http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/10/31/BAG8D9JIF01.DTL Jeannie and all, warm violet light embracing you in a comforting blanket. Wear it always. You will feel it. Posted by: Pat C on November 2, 2004 01:32 AMHi Pallas, just a few more hours and we will have a new president! I am awash with emotion (my sun at 0 Pisces conjuncts the U.S. progressed sun?) I am just so moved. Jo, WV, thanks for the very beautiful & inspirational words. Judy Gemini, thanks for all of your sharing. You are so resourceful & interesing. This is all just so moving, I can't believe it is happening. I won't rest until it's over, but most people are predicting Kerry. Greg Palast's article is very disturbing as are these other reports of disenfranchisement BUT maybe this has been going on longer than we suspected. I feel so optimistic that I don't think even that will stop John Kerry & John Edwards. Just had to express these things, my heart is full. Thank you, dear Sally, Morgana, Nancy, Isabelle for your marvelous, visionary, truthful articles and you, Sally, for your wisdom, compassion and fair judgment in governing this web site. Sharon Posted by: Sharon on November 2, 2004 01:33 AMSharon, this disenfranchisement of voters is institutional in southern society as well as in northern states..... I have posted before how Chief Injustice Rhenquist made his bones with the GOP intimidating voters in Arizona...he was sent to Arizona from OHIO! He was successful for a while, too....you can google up the story at any time. We have much to heal in terms of groups of people who need the help of a higher belief that justice will take place. There are so many people who need to wake up, and others who take courage from those like Pallas who are out there doing it on the front lines....but we can help too....it is holding the vision that they can affect change ..... but they must be strong and have resolve. I believe that with the meditations and awareness, we can do long distance healing on these voters, too...not just Kerry, Edwards, and the players. But the VOTERS. Posted by: Judi Gemini on November 2, 2004 01:42 AMDoes anyone have the website for the meditation tonite handy? I know that it's 8 p.m. Pacific; 9 Mt; 10 Central; 11 Eastern but would like to read it again. Thanks! Posted by: Sharon on November 2, 2004 01:53 AMHi Everyone!! Just catching up with all the wonderful posts. Here we are on the eve of the Most Important Election of our Lifetimes!! That Redskins football game was interesting. did anyone see how it ended? I tend to think that if the game is an omen of a Kerry win, it could also be an omen of how he wins. The Skins were behind the whole game but made a touchdown that would have brought them ahead right at the end. Due to a penalty called against them, it didn't count!! then the Packers interecepted the ball and I think actually made another touchdown. I think this suggests that Bush will try to pull a win out of a loss but be ruled down by the courts (referees). So something that may briefly seem to give his side hope, will fall through. At least this is how I read the pigskin tea leaves. It could be said this is already happening, with some of the court decisions thus far. And I love what Krugman said in that interview. He is so right. There will be a narrow window during which Kerry must stand firm and convict these guys for all their misdeeds. He should think of them as serial rapists that need to be put away forever or they will try and rape us again. Posted by: Nancy on November 2, 2004 01:54 AMI feel like we are in the calm before the storm. Posted by: Nancy on November 2, 2004 02:19 AMHi Nancy. I have the same feeling. Fasten your seatbelt. Posted by: Pat C on November 2, 2004 02:31 AMNancy, I was at the game. Green Bay was going to win with or without the last minute touchdown. Even an injured Bret fare is too much for the hapless skins. I have trouble placing a Bush face on the Skins since they're a good bunch of good guys. Guido tells me that despite finishing a dozen beers at the game yesterday, he is still predicting 54% for Kerry. He kept mumbling something about the 'the young people.' I must say that the result of early voting in Iowa and Florida is really something to behold. Kerry is up by 10 points in each state’s early voting. In some early polling states (e.g. Tennessee) as many as one third of voters have already voted. This is both amazing and encouraging. Are democrats the only compulsive people in the country? I think not. I see the early voting as a harbinger for 11/2. We have reached the point where it is time to throw of the chains of our Orwellian media environment; our national government;, the mindless nay-sayers (e.g., Nolle & Wolfstar); and the morally decadent fence-sitters (e.g., Neale Donald Walsh). There will be a new government in power, as AW’s contributors and our Vedic cousins have predicted. That government will need support from all of us and will, without any doubt, bring us (meaning the whole world) back from the brink of total disaster. THANK YOU JOHN KERRY AND JOHN EDWARDS. GOD BE WITH YOU BOTH. http://dakotatoday.typepad.com/dakotatoday/ Posted by: Pat C on November 2, 2004 02:35 AMKerry: U.S. on Verge of a 'Magical Moment' Mike - Thanks for the correction. That actually fits my expectation of the coming weeks even better. Bush gets thwarted in his attempt at sabotage, but it still isn't close either way. Posted by: Nancy on November 2, 2004 02:51 AMNancy, you're work has been simply amazing over the past years (I'm an old AWer, lurked for a while). Guido is just cribbing off of your main site (he has good taste). now we sit back and watch history unfold. peace out Posted by: mike on November 2, 2004 03:02 AM
http://www.dragonflymedia.com/portal/featured_stories/200410/chopra_deepak.html Posted by: wv on November 2, 2004 03:13 AMwv, great link. this is very special. Posted by: mike on November 2, 2004 03:16 AMfrom Little Steven (of the E Street Band or Steven van Zandt of "The Sopranos" or some such on the tee-vee) In the reggae mode. You can hear it online. Just google. And visualize a river of righteous people. Title: I Am A Patriot And the river opens for the righteous, someday I was walking with my brother I am a patriot and I love my country And the river opens for the righteous, someday I was talking with my sister I am a patriot and I love my country And I ain't no communist, and I ain't no capitalist And the river opens for the righteous, someday
oh Nancy...you were right! this is the hand of god (bite me neale) in action; just like the ref's call at the skins game was... just released (YOU MUST READ THIS IN THE CLEVELAND PLAIN DEALER. I FOUND IT RIGHT AFTER KERRY FINISHED HIS SPEECH. "LOUSY, CHEATING, LOW-DOWN REPUBLICANS ARE FOILED IN THEIR ATTEMPT AT VOTER SUPRESSION", my headline, but i'll take The Plain Dealer's)
FEDERAL JUDGES BAR VOTER CHALLENGES IN POLLING PLACES; GOT BACKS APPEAL.Federal judges bar voter challenges at polling places; GOP backs appeal 11/1/2004, 6:46 p.m. ET CINCINNATI (AP) — Two federal judges on Monday barred political party representatives from challenging voters at polling places throughout Ohio, saying poll officials should handle disputes over voter eligibility. U.S. District Judge Susan Dlott said plaintiffs in a lawsuit likely would be able to prove that Ohio's law allowing polling place challengers was unconstitutional. The GOP appealed her ruling to the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals and planned to appeal in the second case. In that case, U.S. District Judge John Adams of Akron said poll workers are the ones to determine if voters are eligible. "In light of these extraordinary circumstances, and the contentious nature of the imminent election, the court cannot and must not turn a blind eye to the substantial likelihood that significant harm will result not only to voters, but also to the voting process itself, if appointed challengers are permitted at the polls," Adams said. Based on the two rulings, Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell's office told county election boards Monday to bar all challengers from polling places. "The law is clearly in our favor," said Mark Weaver, a lawyer for the state Republican Party. "The 6th Circuit has already had to correct some of the bad decisions made by district court judges and we think they'll do it again." Dlott said the presence of challengers inexperienced in the electoral process questioning voters about their eligibility would impede voting. She ruled in a lawsuit by a black couple who said Republican plans to deploy challengers to largely black precincts in Hamilton County was meant to intimidate and block black voters. Adams ruled in a suit by the Summit County Democratic Party, which claimed the law allowing registration challenges is unconstitutional because it does not give a disqualified voter a chance to appeal in time to cast a ballot. He wrote that representatives could not be at the polls for the sole purpose of challenging voters' qualifications. Republicans at first said Adams' ruling would allow them to observe at the polls Tuesday but later backed off that interpretation. Democrats accuse the GOP of trying to suppress Democratic turnout. Sharon, Meditation site for 11PM http://p219.ezboard.com/fangeltherapyfrm1.showMessage?topicID=36.topic Posted by: Jaycee on November 2, 2004 04:00 AMJust watched Frontline on PBS. Thank you, Jaycee! I did my prayer & meditation. The Great Statute in New York Harbor, Lady Liberty (a gift from France), is watching and guarding us, shining the beacon of love, justice & truth on our election tomorrow. Posted by: Sharon on November 2, 2004 04:15 AMYou remember about Alice, don't you Judi? Alice WOKE UP! ;O) Posted by: JoannaOregon on November 2, 2004 04:36 AMPat QOP: Yep. Assuming we win the immediate one and get to survive, the next one will be the true humdinger. Gotta root out corporatism. Long-term, heavy-duty struggle. Somebody somewhere suggested 2020 as the date to overcome it. I trust Captain Sally and the others will have more to say on this a bit later. Right now, I figure the nation's dentists (poor things) will be reaping mucho bucks from all the grinding and gnashing of teeth we're doing while awake and asleep. I'm not sure I can make it through tomorrow without breaking out in hives, and I've got two teeth pulsating sporadically. Sigh. Rest as well as you can this pm. And hope we can celebrate mightily in 24 hours. Posted by: shylurker on November 2, 2004 04:45 AM http://www.thenation.com/thebeat/index.mhtml?bid=1&pid=1960 Even Repubilicans Fear Bush Posted by: Pat C on November 2, 2004 04:51 AMDuring our 10PM meditation, I kept seeing newspaper headlines: KERRY LANDSLIDE! KERRY WINS BIG! The younger voters are going to create a groundswell. GO INDIGOS! I have a sense of former presidents watching- Washington, Lincoln( from the very beginning, Kerry reminded me of Lincoln,) and John F. Kennedy.
Thank you for that image of Lady Liberty. What a shining reminder of the feminine principle.I always fill with emotion when I think of her.
Keep shining light on all those election workers and those voting. Peace Posted by: Jaycee on November 2, 2004 05:07 AMRe: Funny, I can't remember how Alice got home again....after her tour of Wonderland....anyone know?
I must say Edwards is a great speaker - there is a cadence in his speeches..and he asks questions and the crowd roars the answers. He's very very good...not quite as good as Bill, but a better crowd invigorator than Kerry. Must be something those southern boys learn in the churches. Tomorrow is poll watching day - I get the Jewish and Haitian location, I asked for the trouble spot, so let's hope all goes well. they had better not try to turn anyone away in my district - cause I'll send em right back in with a copy of the Voter's Rules. Yes. We all really feel it. This is the most important lection of our lifetime. And you have no idea how many voters are revved up and actually Just amazing. This Gore invention, :), has made a Hmmm. I wonder if our guys will beat the sloths by a good 15 points. ok. a little more than 5 hours sleep and I'm off to the polls. Victory in this race is ours - but I think it still maybe with a fight. These underbellies will not give up "the power" easily, unless they have established it in another place they can take over and suck the resources out of. I do hope they've taken the football away from dumbson, as they did with Nixon. I can imagine he has thought of ordering the Guard or the Army to take action to take over the country for him....and they just look at him and put him under house (whitehouse) arrest.' That would be quite good. Pallas1`18 Posted by: Pallas18 on November 2, 2004 06:50 AMMy thoughts are with you all. Let love and peace radiate from all of you lightworkers facilitating voting this year. Ladies of the lamp, let your lights illuminate the gateway to the path of world healing. Posted by: Jeanie on November 2, 2004 08:00 AMPallas, I love your courage and good luck today. I am poll watching too, it's my first time so they put me at my own precinct, which should be fairly easy. The old-timers with experience were assigned to south St. Pete, where the challenges will be. Good luck to everyone today. If you're not poll watching, please take a little time to encourage friends and neighbors to get out to vote. This is the most important election in my life time. Posted by: Laurie on November 2, 2004 08:58 AM
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