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The Bloody Moon

Full Moon Lunar Eclipse
October 27, 2004 Washington, DC
Moon 5 Taurus

Partial Eclipse onset 11:04 PM
Full Moon 11:07 PM
Total Eclipse begins at 11:23 PM
Total Eclipse ends at 11:45 PM
Partial Eclipse ends at 00:54
all times Eastern

"Eclipses in a fixed sign manifest suddenly, violently and appear to have a correlation with physical upheaval." Recent studies in both the U.S. and Japan indicate that powerful high tides can be correlated to more frequent and larger earthquakes. "Strong Earth tides can trigger earthquakes, scientists report"

The duration of an eclipses influence seems to correspond to the number of hours and minutes an eclipse lasts. A solar eclipse equates to years, and lunar eclipse equates to months. The eclipse path falls across Western North America slicing through Texas, and covering Eastern Europe, Africa and the Middle East. For a graphical view of the eclipse path and the eclipse progression check out Planetary Systems Branch - Code 693 at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt . The moons appearance may be dramatically colored blood red, orange, brown, and even very dark grey like the bones of a skeleton the dark specter in the night.

Eclipse Chart

The Taurus Moon in the Eclipse chart speaks of the collective need for security, particularly with regard to trust of the President, big Daddy with the Moon in the 10th House. The lunar aspects in this chart show the Moon, the People, in a sesquiquadrate 0.4 degrees with Pluto. This aspect indicates a strong desire for security, an urge to break through limitations we have had imposed or experienced upon us as controlling, fascist behavior on the part of our government. This energy challenges the collective to transform the politics of fear and terror by the Bush regime, to survival and recovery based on the better insight and mental stability of John Kerry and John Edwards.


Pluto sits upon the 5th House cusp, the House of the military, armies and is poised to initiate more violence and destruction. In a recent article by Wayne Madsen who is a Washington, DC-based investigative journalist and columnist. Who has served in the National Security Council (NSA) during the Reagan Administration and wrote the introduction to Forbidden Truth. He is the co-author, with John Stanton of "America's Nightmare: The Presidency of George Bush II." His forthcoming book is titled: "Jaded Tasks: Big Oil, Black Ops, and Brass Plates.", he says in his article "A Bush pre-election strike on Iran 'imminent' White House insider report "October Surprise" imminent, "According to White House and Washington Beltway insiders, the Bush administration, worried that it could lose the presidential election to Senator John F. Kerry, has initiated plans to launch a military strike on Iran's top Islamic leadership, its nuclear reactor at Bushehr on the Persian Gulf, and key nuclear targets throughout the country, including the main underground research site at Natanz in central Iran and another in Isfahan. Targets of the planned U.S. attack reportedly include mosques in Tehran, Qom, and Isfahan known by the U.S. to headquarter Iran's top mullahs.


The Iran attack plan was reportedly drawn up after internal polling indicated that if the Bush administration launched a so-called anti-terrorist attack on Iran some two weeks before the election, Bush would be assured of a landslide win against Kerry. Reports of a pre-emptive strike on Iran come amid concerns by a number of political observers that the Bush administration would concoct an "October Surprise" to influence the outcome of the presidential election."


More malefic harmony is embodied in the Uranus quintile with Pluto, a generational aspect tuning into the collective energy with regard to the transformation of society. Creation of a new world order based on humanitarian ideals of universal brotherhood. This same energy can also play out negatively with the Neocon Fascists in the Bush Regime pushing forward their destruction of the Middle East in desperation to initiate further chaos in Iran and Syria so the "Terraists" won't come to America and hurt us with a nuclear device in one of our big cities. Uh huh, right like they can't get on a plane, boat or train to get here. Hello? Are they all mad? The military and the spooks aren't happy with these guys, with Pluto on the 6th House cusp and Uranus in play the Big Brass may decide Bush is nuts considering they don't have any more troops to throw away in a sand box for Bush's mis-adventure. I certainly hope they call a spade a spade.

Another highly volatile aspect finds Mars in a tight square with Chiron, with Mars sextiling Pluto, a terrible trio. Mars square Chiron reveals suppressed rage and anger in the collective. This is often given manifestation as an act that incites anger in others thus claiming their hands are clean. There will also be an exerting of the collective will versus knuckling under to authority. Can we say bye bye Bush bye bye?


Uranus trines the Eclipse Sun and lunar south node in the 4th House of the Common People (that's the 98% of us that didn't get a windfall gift from Bush's tax cuts). Ah but there is more, here we also find Chiron conjunct the Descendent opposing the Eclipse chart Ascendent. Rather like radical surgery being undertaken on the psyche of the Nation. Pluto and Chiron play together here in a semi-sextile, energies that attract one another. This energy is compulsive, plunging into depths of despair and soaring to heights of manic madness as a form of compensatory reaction. A positive manifestation of this energy will find the collective will have keen knowledge, insight, and great power to transform events.


What a roiling culmination to the U.S. election season with voting already underway before the polls officially open. Look at what the eclipse chart has loosed, the People are rockin' for the next month. Volunteerism is at an all time high, voter registration reaching new heights. The unknown unpolled indigo generation what will be their impact?


California is just getting a foretaste as El Nino kicks into first gear, volcanic activity at Mt. St. Helen's was loosely linked to the earthquakes along the San Andreas. Take a look where the eclipse path falls it is there where we will see the eclipse manifestations, earthquakes, volcanos, voter fraud, voting irregularities, dirty handed varmits busted. The eclipse path (link).


The U.S. Chart and the Eclipse


This is a powerful eclipse coming at a critical time in the history of our country and a precursor to Election Night 2004 on November 2nd. The People are strongly tied together with the Eclipse Moon and the U.S. Moon being in contra-parallel (within 0.8 degrees) with U.S. n. Moon. The People fighting to unseat Bush have an instant emotional rapport with one another. People comfortable working together, with a sense of the commitment to mutual goals in sending Bush back to Crawford for good. There's a feel, a psychic bond, as though connected from sharing some ancient, and perhaps unconscious, past experiences together (like the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, and the Vietnam War).. The feeling is of desiring to help and supply, and to care for each other to change the course our Nation has been taken down. The chart.


The Eclipse chart Full Moon makes a strong sextile with the US n. Jupiter expanding its lunar energies (the People) by way of Jupiter's positive influence, indicates increased enjoyment, beneficial mutual cooperation, and expansion of goals and plans. This aspects lends itself to giving positive energy to the last ditch efforts of the political activists.


Pluto which plays a big part in the Eclipse chart also impacts the U.S. n. Moon in a parallel aspect. Pluto provides the catalytic energy for change to the Moon, the People. There will be a sense of coming together for karmic purposes, of healing as the U.S plunges forward in it's quest to reshape itself. Transformation under these circumstances will be emotionally intense and those of us 'Bushfatigued' soldier on to defeat this petty tyrant.


Warning, warning, t. Pluto still making that powerful opposition to the U.S. n. Mars, and add to that the Eclipse chart Mars is trine the U.S. n. Mars. The Eclipse Mars falls in the U.S 10th House adding impetus to the angry man at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, who finds himself stymied by a bunch of fodder units. The impotency of infantile anger.


Tough days ahead, rough water, rockin earth and we are in this together while the whole world watches how we the people handle the failure of the Bush Regime and whether our electoral system is irrevocably broken. White light, blue States, a landslide for Kerry that will be my wish on Samhain night.


Morgana Seawalker seawitch@pacbell.net
Copyright © 1994 ~ 2004 by Phoenix Rising

Morgana Seawalker on Oct 25 | Link
Comments

Great, outstanding, the best Morgana. "Dark" yes, but not too "dark." Hope you hear my tone of voice on this one Morgana. This eclipse also aspects Kerry and Edwards Venus (if I remember their charts which are now floating around in cyberspace) and it falls very close to GWB's progressed Saturn. Japan's earthquakes today. could tell us something about this eclipse. Through the years I've noticed a lot of earth movement on the energies of eclipses.

Posted by: Sally on October 25, 2004 06:26 AM

These are the times when Morgana music has the touch of E.A. Poe. These are the times that we must have been born to experience. This is the eclipse I have been a bit concerned about, and alas it's here.

OK, here we go.

Great article Morgana, and it's soooo good to see you back. I missed the music.

Posted by: Pat C on October 25, 2004 06:28 AM

Thanks Sally you're the best! Light shines best in darkness and AW is a light burning brightly in during the dark Bush years. Thank you for providing this wonderful source for all of us.

Posted by: Morgana on October 25, 2004 06:29 AM

Just reread it AGAIN. Such good stuff Morgana!

Posted by: Pat C on October 25, 2004 06:45 AM

http://www.dubyamovie.com

You gotta see this!

Posted by: Pat C on October 25, 2004 06:53 AM

Well, I have waited for this article, and for this eclipse... Morgana music AGAIN! We have missed you...

"Tough days ahead, rough water, rockin earth and we are in this together while the whole world watches how we the people handle the failure of the Bush Regime and whether our electoral system is irrevocably broken. White light, blue States, a landslide for Kerry that will be my wish on Samhain night."

My wish also Morgana... I feel the power of the people... the red, blood red moon... plutonian, transforming? Energizing... giving life, vitality to a people frustrated 3 1/2 plus years, yearning to oust this worst of all presidents...

Thank you for this invigorating article... now, to read it again! Blessed be...


Posted by: Jo on October 25, 2004 07:17 AM

Saw and heard church bells being rung last night to celebrate a Kerry victory. Don't even think they were in this country.

Clarity. Clarity to all...and now back to bed. Still much work to do.

OG

Posted by: old granny on October 25, 2004 12:40 PM

Morgana, excellent!

And we are all praying for a Kerry landslide, if not, a plain win is just fine.

Posted by: Janet on October 25, 2004 02:35 PM

Morgana, wonderful! Thank you!

Old granny, I visualize people from other countries sighing with relief!! And you'd better believe the bells will be ringing!! Thank you for that.

Posted by: Laurie on October 25, 2004 02:59 PM

I think the military is also deeply healed by the Kerry victory.

http://tinyurl.com/4sghh

Iraq veterans open up on mishandling of war

Soldiers returning from Iraq offered firsthand accounts of the war's turmoil Thursday. Sponsored by the College Democrats, the panel met to discuss service obstacles as well as dangerous trends in military policy.

"You know so much about supporting the troops, especially since the election's taking place," said David Boetcher, a Gulf War veteran headed for Iraq in January. "Our job is to get to the issues behind the rhetoric."

Boetcher presented the audience with statistics showing how veterans are losing service benefits at a rapid rate. With lowered funding for support programs and the rising trend of soldiers being reactivated for a second tour of duty, there is little incentive to remain in the service.

Rather than being reassured, however, soldiers have begun to receive rude awakenings through a "Fed Ex letter" strategy. "You get a package, and you have to show up [for service] two days later," Boetcher said. "The military has a plan for action and it's not getting told."

Jennifer Giese of the 826th Ordinance experienced this firsthand; she came home and found orders to report to Ohio's Fort Campbell. After spending 68 days on base due to confusion over troop deployment, she was sent to Tikrit and stationed at an abandoned Iraqi airbase.

More....

Posted by: Pat C on October 25, 2004 03:07 PM

This link should get you through.

http://www.dailycardinal.com/news/2004/10/22/News/Iraq-Veterans.Open.Up.On.Mishandling.Of.War-777333.shtml

Posted by: Pat C on October 25, 2004 03:09 PM

Not sure if this has been posted yet so sorry if it's a duplicate. This is a great video!
Visualize winning!!!!!

http://www.clowntech.com/win04/vote.htm

Posted by: Siobhan on October 25, 2004 03:11 PM

Is this Gemini or what??

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A57454-2004Oct23?language=printer

I just had to laugh when I read this. It's Gemini to the core.

Posted by: Pat C on October 25, 2004 03:39 PM

I enjoyed reading your article Morgana. Eclipses, and what they portend have always fascinated me. This one happens to conjunct my N.node in the 5th, so I'm waiting to see the results, but I'm more concerned about its impact on the world at large.

Posted by: Crystal on October 25, 2004 03:52 PM

LA Times: THE RACE FOR THE WHITE HOUSE

Countries Turn to Bush's Top Fundraisers for Access

[..] In June, for example, Iraq's Kurdish Democratic Party hired a Washington lobbying firm to help keep it in good standing with the administration. The company — Barbour, Griffith and Rogers — promotes its access to the White House in its written appeals for foreign business, saying it knows "decision-makers and the decision-making process."

One of its partners, Larry Griffith, is a top fundraiser for President Bush, as had been the firm's founder, Haley Barbour, now the governor of Mississippi and no longer active with the company.

The trend of foreign countries relying on lobbyists who also serve as political fundraisers troubles government watchdog groups. Issues such as trade and immigration drive U.S. foreign policy, they say, and should not be influenced by those with fundraising links to decision makers.

"One of the things this shows is that foreign governments that used to work country to country now believe they have to function through the Washington influence money system in order to be heard in Washington," said Fred Wertheimer, president of Democracy 21, a nonpartisan campaign watchdog group.

Consider Thomas G. Loeffler, a former congressman from Texas. He was the top moneyman for Bush's 1994 gubernatorial campaign in Texas, and aggressively collected money for Bush's 2000 presidential campaign. This year, he raised more than $200,000 for the reelection effort.

When Saudi Arabia contacted his lobbying firm, seeking some face time with Bush officials about trade and the war on terrorism, Loeffler obliged. In July 2003, he introduced the Saudi minister of commerce and industry to U.S. Commerce Secretary Don Evans, a fellow Texan who led the Bush fundraising team in 2000.

Later that month, Loeffler arranged a private meeting between Adel Jubeir, Saudi Arabia's foreign policy advisor in Washington, and Karl Rove, Bush's chief political advisor, "to discuss Saudi trade matters" and "the kingdom's reform efforts and war against terrorism," records state.

Loeffler also set up a meeting for Saudi Arabia's minister of commerce with Robert Zoellick, the U.S. trade representative, and Linnet Deily, the U.S. ambassador to the World Trade Organization, which Saudi Arabia is trying to join.

Loeffler did not return several phone messages seeking comment.

In addition to Saudi Arabia, Hong Kong and Mexico have hired Loeffler's firm to push their interests in Washington. All three have paid the firm about $2.6 million a year.

Each of them is concerned about trade. And the Saudis want to improve their image in the U.S. in the wake of Sept. 11. Fifteen of the 19 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. ... MUCH MORE

L A Times, October 25

Posted by: Pat C on October 25, 2004 04:01 PM

This article in the LA Times goes in depth on why the war in Iraq has gone so badly. Places Bush at the top of the food chain, and details the many ways in which the military is very discontent with this administration. It's long, and it's blow-by-blow - and it's a good recap of how they got us where we (and the Iraqi people) are today.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-fallouja24oct24,1,6787318.story?coll=la-headlines-world

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My V V was nothing special last night (just saw "head-shots" of Clinton, Kerry, Edwards, and their spouses - Kerry smiles a lot! and looks generally like a very kind but very tough person).

I spent some time channeling protective and healing energy to our folks. (I wonder if they wondered what that tingling sensation was? tee hee!) We'll see what comes tonight....

Posted by: KM on October 25, 2004 04:46 PM

really cool article Morgan, thank you. Even though I share your wish that Kerry wins in a landslide, so that the world's peoples can see that the majority of Americans really do disapprove of the Bush policies of rape/murder/theft/and destruction, I also wish for the awakening of the citizenry to the understanding that our system of governance is a fraud perpetuated to distract us from the true evil that acts as puppet master on every aspect of our earthly existence: http://web.archive.org/web/20030613113825/www.thewatcherfiles.com/bloodlines/index.htm
I see a Kerry/ Edwards victory as another step towards the necessary healing and enlightenment that must occur before our global ascension into the next root race. A great big thank you to all the incredible offerings on this site, both by the wonderful posters and super-illustrious astrologers. Peace and love to you all!!!

Posted by: Peg on October 25, 2004 04:56 PM

Chief "Jistice" Renquist is hospitalized for cancer of the throat.

Posted by: Pat C on October 25, 2004 05:00 PM

Woops! That should be thyroid cancer.

Posted by: Pat C on October 25, 2004 05:04 PM

Morgana,

Thank you for the gifts you bring us through your writing.

You wrote: "The unknown unpolled indigo generation what will be their impact? "


Last night I had a sense of the Indigos as a huge silent wave moving forward to help create a Kerry landslide victory.

Interesting how a few people have mentioned "landslide" in their posts. Last night I was also getting the sense of a landslide for Kerry.

Also a sense that at a very deep, perhaps not even conscious level, people have a knowing that this is not just another election. It's like a below-the-surface wave, a movement of energy that is awakening, growing and taking on a momentum of its own.

We are in a major planetary evolutionary cycle and our choice during this election will have consequences beyond what we may comprehend.

Light to all. Light to our planet.

Posted by: Jaycee on October 25, 2004 05:22 PM

Morgana, great article. I've been very apprehensive about the coming few days, but have been buoyed by the consistent stream of endorsements going Kerry's way.

I noted that you prominently cite the Wayne Madsen article about Iran. I had an email from the website Tom Flocco this morning with that article and I pretty much pooh-poohed it until I saw that Madsen was the writer. Do you really think this cartel would do this? Do you think the eclipse points to something like this? I find it well within the bounds of this administration's standard MO though.

Posted by: Susan on October 25, 2004 05:38 PM

I thought you all might find this helpful.

http://www.americanprogress.org/site/apps/custom/cap/findorg.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=45294

Posted by: Pat C on October 25, 2004 05:58 PM

...and then there is this.

http://www.americanprogressaction.org/site/pp.asp?c=klLWJcP7H&b=100480

Posted by: Pat C on October 25, 2004 06:02 PM

Morgana,
Re: Bloody Moon......have only just skimmed it, & will print it out for deeper study. Powerful writing!
Wanted to share our research on Taurus/Scorpio full moons back in the mid-seventies. Or Scorpio/Taurus.
We were giddy singles back then when the world was Left & carefree, so don't have weighty findings, but there was definitely always something strange going on!

Kerry is forging ahead up here in the Maine 2nd District, with 1 extra electoral riding on his win here! People are finally "getting it".
And yes the Indigos are a FORCE!
Pat QOP

Posted by: Pat on October 25, 2004 06:03 PM

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~harwood/coment.html#Latest

Monday October 25th 2004.

Yesterday within 100 hours of Total Lun ar eclipse, world news was dominated by horror stories from Iraq. The bodies of more than 40 Iraqi army recruits were found dead near Baquba, and a US diplomat was killed in Baghdad.

Venus and Jupiter (magnitudes 4.0 and 1.7, respectively) are the two bright "morning stars" shining in the east-southeast before and during dawn. Watch them closing in on each other this week! They'll have a close conjunction, only about 2/3° apart, on the morning of November 5th, three days after the US Election.

The slowing gibbous Moon waxing towards Total Eclipse is void of course in Pisces at 05-18. She enters Aries 10-26. This ingress invokes courage, action, adventure and romance to the agenda. A day for the novel approach. Much inspiration to be found.

Posted by: Pat C on October 25, 2004 06:20 PM

Clinton is speaking with Kerry in Philly. Elvis is definately here and thriving!

Posted by: Pat C on October 25, 2004 06:22 PM

All things are possible....

If, in the world of quantum physics, all things are possible and reality is what we choose to focus on... Try this. It can't hurt. Spread the word.

If only 3 percent of the U.S. population takes 60 seconds to do this exercise every day, we can make a massive difference. This is how it works: for 60 seconds each day visualize your favored candidate elected as our next President of the U.S. See the celebrations and excitement and sense of fulfillment across America. See yourself rejoicing with people in your home, neighborhood, and workplace. See people all over the world trusting and building real alliance with the US! See your candidate being sworn into office and staying there for four years. See his spouse being a "First Woman"! Feel the hope, joy, and gratitude. Believe it is possible.

Now, imagine your candidate restoring greater wellbeing in America. See people streaming back to work. See young children getting the support they need. Visualize our teachers, police officers, single mothers, the mentally ill, and many others getting the help they deserve. See our soldiers coming home to their families. Imagine our leaders establishing greater trust and good will with other nations. See peace spreading across the world. See the Iraq conflict ending. Feel how good it will be for the environment to be protected and renewed. See hope rising across the world in the hearts and souls of all of us. See these pictures in your mind for 60 seconds every day between now and November 2. Be grateful that you have the gift of participating in shaping a greater country. Be grateful that you care. Believe that all this is possible—and more! And be sure to vote!

Posted by: Pat C on October 25, 2004 06:38 PM

The above is also from Daykeeper Journal

http://www.daykeeperjournal.com/feature4.shtml

US Group Mind

There are signs that a civil war is brewing within the government, a struggle against the distorted thinking which has driven the current Administration into near wholesale destruction of the planet and its beings.

Armageddon fans may appreciate this fulfilling of biblical prophecy, but many of the rest of us (and most of the rest of the world) consider that this nation is involved in a huge national psychosis which is leading the world down a path which is counter to the highest values of America and of humankind.

Astrologically, any one of the three outer planets (Pluto, Neptune, Uranus) connected with Mercury can indicate the potential for mental derangement. Mercury in the U.S. chart has close connections with ALL THREE of those planets. Pluto opposes Mercury, Neptune sextiles Mercury, and Uranus semi-squares Mercury.

snip...

Many of us hope that we can now begin that healing process, which must begin with honesty and a desire for true reconciliation.

Posted by: Pat C on October 25, 2004 06:42 PM

http://online.wsj.com/public/article/0,,SB109866031609354178,00.html?mod=todays%5Ffree%5Ffeature

Questions Mount
Over Failure to Hit
Zarqawi's Camp

As the toll of mayhem inspired by terrorist leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi mounts in Iraq, some former officials and military officers increasingly wonder whether the Bush administration made a mistake months before the start of the war by stopping the military from attacking his camp in the northeastern part of that country.

The Pentagon drew up detailed plans in June 2002, giving the administration a series of options for a military strike on the camp Mr. Zarqawi was running then in remote northeastern Iraq, according to generals who were involved directly in planning the attack and several former White House staffers. They said the camp, near the town of Khurmal, was known to contain Mr. Zarqawi and his supporters as well as al Qaeda fighters, all of whom had fled from Afghanistan. Intelligence indicated the camp was training recruits and making poisons for attacks against the West.

Senior Pentagon officials who were involved in planning the attack said that even by spring 2002 Mr. Zarqawi had been identified as a significant terrorist target, based in part on intelligence that the camp he earlier ran in Afghanistan had been attempting to make chemical weapons, and because he was known as the head of a group that was plotting, and training for, attacks against the West. He already was identified as the ringleader in several failed terrorist plots against Israeli and European targets. In addition, by late 2002, while the White House still was deliberating over attacking the camp, Mr. Zarqawi was known to have been behind the October 2002 assassination of a senior American diplomat in Amman, Jordan.

More...

Posted by: Pat C on October 25, 2004 07:07 PM

i was 24 years old the first time I saw a lunar eclipse. I was in Idaho, big sky country. THe moon hung up in the big dark sky like a jackolantern. I was very into some spiritual stuff back then and that night felt very very strange to me. I realized just how insignificant my life was, and how all of this planetary stuff would go on, whether we are here or not, or whether we notice or not.
I for one, hope to see the worm turn and a little justice in my lifetime, but judging from what I have learned about history, I am not sure I will
really be satisfied.
Nice article Morgana, perfect Halloween precursor!
mimi

Posted by: mimi on October 25, 2004 07:17 PM

So did the october surprise backfire? Ooopsie
we lost all those munitions. dang!

Posted by: mimi on October 25, 2004 07:19 PM

Great article Morgana! On another note,I'm surprised, but the Washington Post has endorsed John Kerry for President!

EXPERTS TELL US that most voters have had no difficulty making up their minds in this year's presidential election. Half the nation is passionately for George W. Bush, the pollsters say, and half passionately for John F. Kerry -- or, at least, passionately against Mr. Bush. We have not been able to share in this passion, nor in the certainty. As readers of this page know, we find much to criticize in Mr. Bush's term but also more than a few things to admire. We find much to admire in Mr. Kerry's life of service, knowledge of the world and positions on a range of issues -- but also some things that give us pause. On balance, though, we believe Mr. Kerry, with his promise of resoluteness tempered by wisdom and open-mindedness, has staked a stronger claim on the nation's trust to lead for the next four years.

To view the entire article, go to http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A57584-2004Oct23.html?referrer=emailarticle

Posted by: Marta on October 25, 2004 07:50 PM

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3449870/

Post-election Probe-apalooza?

Posted by: Pat C on October 25, 2004 08:23 PM

Outstanding Morgana-Thanks

This man is sure owed a big thanks for all of us!

"MOORE STUMPS FOR KERRY: APPEALS TO WAR FOES AT TEMPLE UNIVERSITY"

He said that when the Democrats return to power, they will not treat the Republicans the way the Republicans in power have treated other groups in the last few years.

Republicans would benefit from a raised minimum wage and expanded health care, just as Democrats would, Moore said.

And "just because we think being Republican is a form of deviant behavior, when we're in power, we'll let them marry each other," Moore told the laughing crowd.

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/index.php?id=244

Posted by: Bushfatigued on October 25, 2004 10:32 PM

"This info ended up being the last post on the last thread-Before Morgana posted her wonderful new article.I think it is important enough to carry forward. Maybe some sane voices can add their two cents in favor of O'Donnell)

I don’t know if anyone watched MSNBC’s Scarborough Country the night they had the “Chief Shifty Swifty” John O’Neill was on pushing his evil book and doing his creepy bizzarro lying about Kerry. As usual, my husband was busy clicking around the channels when he just happened to hit on the show. I was just stunned and elated to watch as Lawrence O’Donnell let lose on that sinister O’Neill like a man possessed. He called (shouted) him a disgusting liar and his book a disgusting pack of lies! Boy did it feel good to see someone with some backbone finally stand up and say it loud, clear and like it really is! Anyhow, today on The McLaughlin Group O’Donnell told pompous Tony Blankley basically to stop the lying and shove it . . . .In no uncertain terms! This guy is on a roll and it feels good.

Guess like all of us O’Donnell has finally had enough of this “Polite Wimpy Liberal *hit” and has decided to show all the Mean Spirited, Lying Rovian clones that liberals are going to start fighting back.

Anyway, my friend emailed me to say freepers are writing and calling MSNBC in an effort to affect some sort of problems for O’Donnell. Email a few supportive lines to MSNBC about O'Donnell and pass the word on to as many others as you can.

(Lawrence O'Donnell certainly deserves all our help in countering the freepers efforts.)

viewerservices@msnbc.com

joe@msnbc.com *Scarborough Country

feedback@msnbc.com

Posted by: Bushfatigued on October 25, 2004 10:39 PM

Want to see a beautiful sight? Throngs and throngs of people, in Philly... today with Kerry and Clinton...

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/10/25/154959/06

Posted by: Jo on October 25, 2004 11:18 PM

more photos from Philly

http://www.iflipflop.com/

Posted by: Jo on October 25, 2004 11:25 PM

MSNBC poll being freeped

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6331173/

Posted by: Jo on October 26, 2004 12:46 AM

Powerful article Morgana!
Blessed be,
~Dommael

Posted by: Dommael on October 26, 2004 01:05 AM

If Nov 3 brings protest, be sure to have these links handy:

http://www.verifiedvoting.org/eirs
http://www.voteprotect.org
http://www.lawyerscomm.org
http://www.votewatch.us/
http://www.blackboxvoting.com/
http://www.electionline.org/
http://nov3.us/

Here's link to Kos diary to more info and a pledge

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/10/25/164318/35

Posted by: Jo on October 26, 2004 01:06 AM

Magnificent, Morgana!
Or
Magnificent Morgana!

Both work for me. Thanks ever so much for the article. You sure packed a lot into a small space. Gotta read some more.

Posted by: shylurker on October 26, 2004 01:20 AM

Rolling Stone Poll

http://tinyurl.com/5xxb2

As the responses indicate, readers are extremely dissatisfied with George W. Bush. By wide margins, they believe the country is "on the wrong track" and the president is doing a "poor" job. They value intelligence and character in a candidate over experience and toughness. Most have made up their minds, and they plan to vote for John Kerry -- but if given the choice, they would choose Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton or John McCain over Bush. They trust Bruce Springsteen and Michael Moore, and they distrust Fox News and the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. They consider the war in Iraq the most important issue facing America -- but, like the rest of the country, they're divided over how best to resolve it.

More...

Posted by: Pat C on October 26, 2004 03:19 AM

I am feeling way too Saturn these eclipse days, figures with the sun coming up to my natal saturn and the moon coming up to conjunct my sun. Heavy or leaded..............

Anyhow, thank goodness for this site of hope, and I'll keep hoping. You all inspire me. True to my nature tho, here is an interesting article by John Dean.

The Coming Post-Election Chaos:
A Storm Warning of Things to Come If the Vote Is as Close as Expected
By JOHN W. DEAN
----
Friday, Oct. 22, 2004

This next presidential election, on November 2, may be followed by post-election chaos unlike any we've ever known

http://writ.corporate.findlaw.com/dean/20041022.html

Posted by: Shade on October 26, 2004 03:27 AM

http://www.sltrib.com/nationworld/ci_2431964

Iraqi oil money can't cover reconstruction despite U.S. predictions

BTW, there was a small earthquake where I live today. East coast.

Posted by: Pat C on October 26, 2004 03:43 AM

Pat C....where? I was visiting NYC in 1985 and was in the one in Westchester....I kept saying...you aren't supposed to be able to feel the subway rumbles on the 10th floor of the Waldorf! Judi

Posted by: Judi Gem on October 26, 2004 03:59 AM

great article, Morgana!! and great posts as usual everyone!! keep up the visualizations, THEY ARE WORKING!!!

and now, from Rense, a humorous splash for fans of Batman(esp the old '60's tv show)--- once I saw this,the last 3+ years made sense.......
http://www.rense.com/1.imagesG/dynamic_duo_1024.jpg

blue light over America, white light to KE04 and the Big Dawg(who is next-in-line for Jimmy Carter's current title of "best ex-president EVER!").....now, let's stay positive and focused and get out the vote people, and SPREAD THE TRUTH at every opportunity.......

did I ever say how much I truly love this site?
well, I truly do, thanks to Sally and some of the most brilliant minds on the web......

Posted by: Garry on October 26, 2004 04:03 AM

Jo....the story on Clinton included his 'looks' after his ordeal in surgery...made me sad. I hope it is all just the stuff happening after surgery, and that in a year he will be back to better health. Even his hands were mentioned! But I had to quit my browser, because everything came to a dead halt while I was there....freeping?

Posted by: judigem on October 26, 2004 04:12 AM

Increase In War Funding Sought
Bush to Request Another $70 Billion

By Jonathan Weisman and Thomas E. Ricks
Washington Post Staff Writers
Tuesday, October 26, 2004; Page A01

The Bush administration intends to seek about $70 billion in emergency funding for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan early next year, pushing total war costs close to $225 billion since the invasion of Iraq early last year, Pentagon and congressional officials said yesterday.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A62554-2004Oct25.html

Posted by: Jo on October 26, 2004 04:29 AM

thanks Morgana - I'm very appreciative and find your delineations engrossing.

Posted by: Pallas18 on October 26, 2004 05:21 AM

This is brilliant---If you haven't watched the video give it a try---If the youth of this country get really *issed-off---they will be the ones that will run Bush and all his evil cronies out of town on a rail!

Eminem---Mosh

And as we proceed,
To Mosh through this desert storm,
In these closing statements, if they should argue
Let us beg to differ
As we set aside our differences
Let the president answer a higher anarchy
Strap him with an Ak-47, let him go, fight his own war
Let him impress daddy that way
No more blood for oil, we got our own battles to fight on our own soil
No more psychological warfare, to trick us to thinking that we ain't loyal
If we don't serve our own country, we're patronizing a hero
Look in his eyes its all lies
The stars and stripes, they've been swiped, washed out and wiped
And replaced with his own face, Mosh now or die

If I get sniped tonight you know why,
Cause I told you to fight.And assemble our own army
To disarm this Weapon of Mass Destruction
That we call our President, for the present
And Mosh for the future of our next generation
To speak and be heard
Mr. President, Mr. Senator
Do you guy's hear us...hear us...


Link to video: http://boss.streamos.com/real/interscope/eminem/encore/...

Posted by: Bushfatigued on October 26, 2004 05:50 AM

WE ALL NEED A LAUGH...This is one of DU's Top 10 Conservative Idiots for this week.

" If Republicans can't even steal signs properly, how can we trust them to run the country? Randal Wagner is a Republican sign-thief from Wheat Ridge, Colorado, and clearly he needs a bit of practice.

Wagner was already under suspicion of stealing campaign signs but wasn't caught until he took a sign from a local business and proceeded to run for it, getting as far as a low chain blocking off the driveway which he tripped over, landing on his face, and knocking himself unconscious. Police found him sleeping peacefully on top of the stolen sign - and then discovered two dozen stolen signs in the back of his pickup truck.

He was treated for cuts and bruises, and then charged with theft, trespassing, criminal tampering, and disorderly conduct. Maybe the Bush administration will be able to bail him out - he sounds like he'd be a perfect addition to their post-election legal team."

Posted by: Jaycee on October 26, 2004 06:06 AM

ok, i can feel the energy of oct. 27th comming on. just look at kerry's face and see the energy. look at the mask that is bush's fallen features. it's revving up and we're about to take off. something funny happened on the way to the election: they forgot to consider all the voters, all the energy, all the passion. we're in for a surprise by 2am wednesday, edt. it will be all over and the * friends and family will be lucky to get a deal from mci (ironic since their buddy bernie ebbers ruined that once great company).

great article morganna! passion is the key.

and wasn't it magnificent to see kerry and clinton together. clinton is such a trip, says to the crowd they're the best thing in the world for his heart. gotta love that guy!!!

Posted by: mike on October 26, 2004 06:24 AM

Oh my goodness - those photos of Clinton and Kerry in Philadelphia are so full of the energy - the throngs of people.

Don't you think the shrub has to get a little jealous? Not that I feel any bit sorry for the little thug. But I'd damn sure be envious of the obvious adoration of in that crowd if I was him.

Just MHO

Posted by: KM on October 26, 2004 07:20 AM

Oops. Re the above:

I was so elated that
I didn't punctuate
to accentuate the
energized electorate (!)

Not only that but...

I absentmindedly allowed
double prepositions (of in)
ahead of "that crowd" --
an error of which I definitely am not proud...

Sorry. It's late.........;-)

Posted by: KM on October 26, 2004 07:31 AM

My daughter (17) was watching this video and wow, this powerful video will be watched by thousands of young voters as Eminem is extremely popular . . . hope this link works

http://gnn.tv/videos/viewer.php?id=27&spd=lo

Posted by: Laurie on October 26, 2004 11:54 AM

MY VV last night was short but got the message that Kerry REALLY wants to win and is fighting. GW is getting weary and happy to let it all go. He'd be relieved.

Clinton looked great! Sometimes if soul work does not dissolve psychological issues, surgery and it's traumatic impact on the body does it (cuts some of it out). He has never looked more light filled. Go Bill.
'Time Heals All Wounds'. The world loves Clinton

For GW 'Time Wounds All Heels'.

I wish we all lived in NYC so we AW's could go out to celebrate on Nov 3.

Welcome KM!!!!!

Posted by: bhakti on October 26, 2004 01:34 PM

New Yorker Magazine Breaks With Tradition, Endorses Kerry
Agence France Presse

Monday 25 October 2004

New York - For the first time in its 80-year history, the venerable New Yorker magazine has endorsed a presidential candidate, urging readers to vote for Democrat John Kerry in next week's election.

"He is plainly the better choice," the weekly said in a lengthy editorial that excoriated the record of President George W. Bush on everything from health and the environment to his handling of the war in Iraq.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/102604F.shtml

Posted by: Jo on October 26, 2004 01:36 PM

"...Like Britain a century ago, the United States has greatly over-borrowed in an effort to control access to the world's energy supply and at the same keep its domestic economy firing on all cylinders. As competition for diminishing oil resources threatens U.S. dollar hegemony over world oil transactions, expect to see increased Chinese political and military presence in the Middle East. The presence of Chinese PLA troops in Sudan, in our opinion, marks the middle kingdom's entrance into the great game. China's next move could come in the form of massive dollar devaluation when they decide to unload their supply of accumulated greenbacks. China just recently released six billion of those greenbacks for its purchase of Noranda Mining - Canada's biggest mining company. Keep your eyes open for stepped-up greenback dumping by China in exchange for natural resources such as oil-bearing properties or perhaps more mines. We predict that in the near future, Saudi princes will decide to denominate some of their oil transactions in Yuan (or at least something other than dollars) and invest their profits into shares of China Mobile or PetroChina instead of Citigroup."

http://www.kitco.com/ind/Texashedge/oct182004.html

Posted by: Jo on October 26, 2004 01:45 PM

[Last one today, I promise!]

You KNOW you have a problem when Pravada gives a civics lesson and predicts the demise of the USA Bill of Rights:

"The Death of the Bill of Rights in America
10/22/2004 13:27
The Bill of Rights is moribund in today's America because in the view of many powerful people it should never have been born.
James Madison said two centuries ago, "We are free today substantially, but the day will come when our Republic will be an impossibility. ... A Republic cannot stand upon bayonets, and when the day comes, when the wealth of the nation will be in the hands of a few, then we must rely upon the wisdom of the best elements in the country to readjust the laws of the nation to the changed conditions." Has this day arrived?

It is sanctified by words during the best of times, when it is not needed; It is ignored by deeds during the worst of times, when it is needed most; It is presented as the bedrock of American freedom; It is in reality as fragile as a pane of glass; It is praised when one requires its protections; It is scourged when one"s foe demands those same protections; It is promoted as a vibrant, living document; It is dying a slow, but certain, death.

With apologies to Charles Dickens for paraphrasing the opening sentence of his immortal classic A TALE OF TWO CITIES, this opening passage describes the demise of a single document: The Bill of Rights.

The Bill of Rights is moribund in today"s America because in the view of many powerful people it should never have been born. During the Constitutional Convention of 1787, the delegates, having recently won a war against a monarchy, were astutely aware of the corrupting influence of political power, particularly when concentrated into too few hands.
James Madison went so far as to state, "The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted. So a system of "checks-and-balances" was devised to ensure that no individual, or branch of government, would obtain absolute power."

More
http://english.pravda.ru/mailbox/22/101/399/14482_America.html


Posted by: Jo on October 26, 2004 01:51 PM

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2004/102604.html

Jon Stewart v. 'Perception Management'

Election 2004 is turning out to be a surprising test for the old Reagan-Bush concept of “perception management,” as more and more Americans question the official story on Iraq and seek alternative views, sometimes from satirical programs like Jon Stewart’s “The Daily Show.”


Indeed, the election's outcome may turn on whether George W. Bush's administration can sustain the perception of success in Iraq among enough Americans during the campaign's final week to hold off John Kerry's challenge. But Bush's electoral cause is not likely to be helped by the unrelenting bad news from Iraq. Only his most loyal followers can be expected not to notice the unfolding disaster.


One of the latest catastrophes was the disclosure that the administration failed to secure high-powered conventional explosives at an Iraqi nuclear site and that almost 380 tons of the bomb-making material has disappeared. The New York Times reported that the explosives could be "used to demolish buildings, make missile warheads and detonate nuclear weapons." [NYT, Oct. 25, 2004]


In other words, it's possible that Bush's invasion of Iraq – justified to keep dangerous weapons out of the hands of terrorists – may have actually given terrorists access to materiel for carrying out devastating terrorist attacks.


Testing Limits


The drumbeat of bad news from Iraq has tested the limits of even the administration's formidable capacity to influence how the American people view the Iraq reality. Pro-Bush news outlets continue to complain about excessively negative coverage and to tout administration successes, such as the painting of schools. But the images of death and destruction have made many Americans wonder if the war was worth the price.


The war's fallout also has put the Republicans' two-decade-old "perception management" strategy under the greatest stress since it became official policy during Ronald Reagan's first term.

More...

Posted by: Pat C on October 26, 2004 01:54 PM

http://www.nature.com/news/2004/041018/full/041018-16.html

Battle to stop e-voting steps up

Experts unsure what impact last-minute lawsuits will have

With the US presidential election less than two weeks away, the battle over electronic voting is raging stronger than ever. Opponents of the technology have resorted to a series of lawsuits in a last-ditch attempt to stop the use of the machines.

The debate centres on the use of electronic voting equipment, ATM-like machines that register votes digitally after people make their selections on a touch-screen. Nearly 30% of voters will place their ballot using these 'e-voting' machines when choosing the next US president.

Many watchdog groups are warning that tests conducted on e-voting hardware and software are insufficient, and that faulty machines could cause votes to be missed or registered incorrectly. It's not yet clear how serious these problems will be; early voting in a dozen or so states so far has thrown up only minor glitches.

However, there is a more fundamental concern about the technology, which is that without a printed confirmation of each vote, it is impossible to hold an independent manual recount.

Trust exercise

"Voters using electronic machines without a paper trail will simply have to trust the good word of the vendors and local election officials that the electronic numbers recorded in the machine memories accurately reflect the intent of the electorate," says Matt Zimmerman, an attorney with the San Francisco-based Electronic Freedom Foundation, which studies civil liberties issues related to technology.

More...

Posted by: Pat C on October 26, 2004 02:20 PM

Despite the fact that the news with their polls have been making me crazy, I did note that here in MI Sen. Kerry has a 10 pt lead. So, good news from Michigan, YAY!

Posted by: Shade on October 26, 2004 02:27 PM

Just a reminder that today, tomorrow and Thurs are the dangerous eclipse erratic energy times. It is the lay low time. By that I mean it is time for inner work and meditation and spiritual practices. By all means, keep up the great work of getting Kerry in and Georgie out.
Just be aware.

Morgana Music is resounding in my soul, thanks.

Posted by: bhakti on October 26, 2004 02:46 PM

Sorry. Scratch my "last one for today, I promise"

Reminder that the moon is waxing full, and meditative work is more powerful now...

A note: Markos of dailyKos has another of his articles in Guardian (go bloggers!)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/markosmoulitsas/story/0,15139,1336232,00.html

Light to John-John... may they both continue to be surrounded in the energy of the people... may their numbers continue to swell...

Light to all... namaste

Posted by: Jo on October 26, 2004 02:54 PM

Judi Gemini, the reason you heard the rumbling of the subway (51st line) at the Waldorf is because the subway is underneath the hotel(so to speak). Hearing subway rumbling is how it is New York if one lives or work near the subway stations.

Posted by: Janet on October 26, 2004 02:55 PM

A kossack has posted a diary that Repug operatives know they are breaking the law and hope the Dems don't find out... the Dems got some misdirected emails sent by Bush operatives...
interesting reading.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/10/25/233813/03

Posted by: Jo on October 26, 2004 03:12 PM

Boy - I went to kos and starting browsing. You know, how you click this link and that one and pretty soon you're god-only-knows-where?

Got so mad at media starting already to put the WH spin on the missing exposives in Iraq that I had to send off a rant. A real one. With caps and exclamation points and everything - I think I even said "damn". I usually try to send the news networks something that strives for calm equilibrium and rational logical argumentation when sending them a comment. Lost it totally on this one.

Geez, I'm mad. Okay, I will calm down. Breathe.....the...light,.....feel......the...light,.....become....the....light,.....

On the positive side, yesterday I did some calling for DNC. Talked to a lot of folks in Michigan who couldn't come to the canvasses this weekend but wanted to know what else they could do...including a house-bound great gramma. Signed up some folks who decided last minute to cancel weekend arrangements and work to GOTV. A real positive energy there. They expect to win. Saw in some poll that Michigan is probably Kerry's.

After work I'm going to go get some more names and make more calls. Hope I get a different state. I want this energy going where it's going to make a real difference.

Oh! and whoever posted about Clinton being full of light? That's what I see too! I mean he does look pale, but inside that there's this glow........and in spite of the strain on his physical body (and no doubt that it's a strain) his spirit is strong.

yes, let's use this special time (thanks to those who gave us non-astrologers the heads up on this) to power our vision, and through our vision, share the power!

love and light to all here......

Posted by: KM on October 26, 2004 07:25 PM

Janet...I had been in the Waldorf for about 4 days and never heard the subway (from the 10th floor) or felt the vibrations....but when I did, it was when the Westchester earthquake was taking place....btw...NYC is crisscrossed with earthquake faults...!

Posted by: judigemini on October 26, 2004 08:59 PM

Judi, I'm in the mid Atlantic area. There was an earthquake here yesterday. The news didn't report it. Very strange.

Posted by: Pat C on October 26, 2004 09:04 PM

Meanwhile: Josh Marshall links to a new MSNBC story on Al Qa Qaa.

The short version of today's MSNBC story:

-- The Drudge-touted April 10th visit was a "pit stop" and featured no searches for explosives, which the troops wouldn't have recognized anyway.

-- The previous US troop visit, on April 4, featured spot checks that did manage to find thousands of boxes of white powder that turned out to be explosives.

-- The roads at the time were too chewed up to allow truck convoys easy passage (and you can't quickly or easily haul out 380 tons of ANYTHING with just tanks and Jeeps and Hummers).

Bottom line: There's no way that the explosives could have been taken out before the roads to Al Qa Qaa were cleared later in April. (And even if there was, the satellites Rummy had trained on Iraq would have seen the trucks. A convoy of the size needed to haul all that material would have shown up on the satellite photos like the freaking Great Wall of China.)

The Daily Misleader has more:

===============================
THE DAILY MIS-LEAD

===============================

ADMINISTRATION MISLEADS ON MISSING EXPLOSIVES

In Iraq, 380 tons of powerful explosives have been looted and may have fallen into the hands of insurgents. In an effort to deflect blame, administration officials are pushing the theory that when "U.S. forces...reached the Al Qaqaa military facility in early April 2003, the weapons cache was already gone."[1] This theory is not credible.

According to an AP report, U.S. solders visited the Al Qaqaa in April 2003 and "found thousands of five-centimetre by 12-centimetre boxes, each containing three vials of white powder."[2] Officials who tested the powder said it was "believed to be explosives."[3] Yesterday, "an official who monitors developments in Iraq" confirmed that "US-led coalition troops had searched Al Qaqaa in the immediate aftermath of the March 2003 invasion and confirmed that the explosives, which had been under IAEA seal since 1991, were intact."[4] Thereafter, according to the official, "the site was not secured by U.S. forces."[5]

It makes sense that the explosives were there when the U.S. solders arrived because, as the LA Times notes, "given the size of the missing cache, it would have been difficult to relocate undetected before the invasion, when U.S. spy satellites were monitoring activity."[6]

Sources:

1. "White House Downplays Missing Iraq Explosives," Los Angeles Times, 10/26/04, http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=1518002&l=64878.
2. "U.S. troops find signs of chemical readiness," Associated Press, 4/05/03, http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=1518002&l=64879.
3. Ibid, http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=1518002&l=64879.
4. "380 tons of explosives missing in Iraq," Associated Press, 10/25/04, http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=1518002&l=64880.
5. Ibid, http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=1518002&l=64880.
6. "White House Downplays Missing Iraq Explosives," Los Angeles Times, 10/26/04, http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=1518002&l=64878

Posted by: Pat C on October 26, 2004 09:22 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/3956129.stm

New Florida vote scandal feared

A secret document obtained from inside Bush campaign headquarters in Florida suggests a plan - possibly in violation of US law - to disrupt voting in the state's African-American voting districts, a BBC Newsnight investigation reveals.

Two e-mails, prepared for the executive director of the Bush campaign in Florida and the campaign's national research director in Washington DC, contain a 15-page so-called "caging list".

It lists 1,886 names and addresses of voters in predominantly black and traditionally Democrat areas of Jacksonville, Florida.

An elections supervisor in Tallahassee, when shown the list, told Newsnight: "The only possible reason why they would keep such a thing is to challenge voters on election day."

Ion Sancho, a Democrat, noted that Florida law allows political party operatives inside polling stations to stop voters from obtaining a ballot.

Mass challenges

They may then only vote "provisionally" after signing an affidavit attesting to their legal voting status.

Mass challenges have never occurred in Florida. Indeed, says Mr Sancho, not one challenge has been made to a voter "in the 16 years I've been supervisor of elections."

"Quite frankly, this process can be used to slow down the voting process and cause chaos on election day; and discourage voters from voting."

Sancho calls it "intimidation." And it may be illegal.

In Washington, well-known civil rights attorney, Ralph Neas, noted that US federal law prohibits targeting challenges to voters, even if there is a basis for the challenge, if race is a factor in targeting the voters.

The list of Jacksonville voters covers an area with a majority of black residents.

When asked by Newsnight for an explanation of the list, Republican spokespersons claim the list merely records returned mail from either fundraising solicitations or returned letters sent to newly registered voters to verify their addresses for purposes of mailing campaign literature.

Republican state campaign spokeswoman Mindy Tucker Fletcher stated the list was not put together "in order to create" a challenge list, but refused to say it would not be used in that manner.

Rather, she did acknowledge that the party's poll workers will be instructed to challenge voters, "Where it's stated in the law."

There was no explanation as to why such clerical matters would be sent to top officials of the Bush campaign in Florida and Washington.

Private detective

In Jacksonville, to determine if Republicans were using the lists or other means of intimidating voters, we filmed a private detective filming every "early voter" - the majority of whom are black - from behind a vehicle with blacked-out windows.

The private detective claimed not to know who was paying for his all-day services.

On the scene, Democratic Congresswoman Corinne Brown said the surveillance operation was part of a campaign of intimidation tactics used by the Republican Party to intimate and scare off African American voters, almost all of whom are registered Democrats.

Posted by: Pat C on October 26, 2004 09:25 PM

MMFA asks NBC not to feature Limbaugh on election night
Mr. Neal Shapiro
NBC News
30 Rockefeller Plaza
New York, NY 10112

Dear Mr. Shapiro:

I am writing to you today to ask that NBC not feature conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh as a political commentator during election night coverage, as your network did in 2002.

As you should know, Limbaugh has a track record of using extreme, hateful speech that has no place in civil discourse. To pick just a few examples from this year, as documented by Media Matters for America: Limbaugh compared the abuse of Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib to a fraternity prank, telling America and an international audience on the taxpayer-funded American Forces Radio and Television Service that the torture was a "brilliant maneuver" and that the photos were "good old American pornography." Limbaugh further claimed that "the reaction to the stupid torture is an example of the feminization of this country." He has also labeled Senator John Kerry a "stupid S.O.B." and a "gigolo."

Limbaugh's racist commentary also makes him unsuitable for an appearance on your network. Just last month, Limbaugh, commenting on Reverend Jesse Jackson joining the Kerry campaign, stated: "The Kerry campaign has finally gotten a chocolate chip," sparking outrage in the African American community. On March 26, Limbaugh said: "Hugo, Cesar -- whatever. A Chavez is a Chavez. We've always had problems with them." The talk show host also claimed: "[T]ruce is an old Arabic word. Goes way, way back in Islamic-Arabic culture, and it means, 'We will get you later.'"

Limbaugh's sexist commentary is beyond the pale as well. Last spring, Limbaugh said that women "actually wish" for sexual harassment. Limbaugh shared with listeners his "pet name" for the National Organization for Women (NOW): "National Association of Gals" (his acronym: "NAG"), claiming that the "militant feminists" who make up the "NAGs" "aren't determining who wins elections. White men are." Limbaugh also warned that with "new female police chiefs ... we can watch out for some naked pyramids," a crude reference to Abu Ghraib following the appointment of four women as chiefs of police in four major U.S. cities.

Limbaugh has a reckless disregard for facts and the truth. For example, Limbaugh falsely stated that the 9-11 Commission report confirmed Vice President Dick Cheney's claim that September 11 hijacker Mohamed Atta may have met with an Iraqi intelligence officer in April 2001. As you know, the report said this meeting did not occur. Limbaugh was wrong about the minimum wage on his April 29 and August 12 shows, and he mischaracterized the U.S. fiscal shortfall on July 8.

Limbaugh has also claimed that in reference to Iraq, "[President George W.] Bush never said the words 'imminent threat.' That's another myth that gets perpetuated by Kerry and picked up by the mainstream press. Bush never said there was an imminent threat. He wanted to go. It was a mounting threat. He wanted to get in there before it became an imminent threat. ... Now, Bush has never -- Bush hasn't used the word 'imminent' ever, and neither has Cheney." But Bush did call Iraq an "urgent threat"; Cheney called Iraq a "mortal threat"; and other senior White House officials assented (on October 16, 2002 and January 26, 2003) when reporters applied the "imminent threat" characterization. And Limbaugh's claim that AIDS "hasn't made that jump to the heterosexual community ... other than in Africa [where] ... it's promiscuity that ... spreads this," is clearly false -- and jaw-dropping.

Everyone is entitled to his or her opinion, and the conservative point of view should be represented in the media. There are plenty of conservative pundits who make tempered, intellectually honest arguments. I take issue, however, with Limbaugh's dishonesty and vitriol. His lies and hate speech have no place on your network and our public airwaves.

I look forward to hearing back from you on this matter before Election Day.

Sincerely,

David Brock
President and CEO
Media Matters for America

Posted to the web on Tuesday October 26, 2004 at 1:16 PM EST


Posted by: Jaycee on October 26, 2004 09:49 PM

There are heroic people out here. David Brock is one of them.

Posted by: Pat C on October 26, 2004 09:52 PM


A word from Swami Beyondadanda

http://www.lightworks.com/MonthlyAspectarian/2004/October/conversation%20Steve%20Bhaerman.htm

Posted by: wv on October 26, 2004 10:07 PM

http://www.freewillastrology.com/beauty/life_in_the_bush.html

Life in the Bush of Ghosts

Posted by: Pat C on October 26, 2004 11:46 PM

High energy day.

This morning, prior to the Clinton speech, I was invited to a breakfast meeting with Henry Waxman, Alan Dershowitz, Congressman Wexler, a couple of other congresspeople and Senator Lautenberg - who is very amazing - doesn't look his age...saw me later at the Clinton speech and remembered my name. I can't remember anyone's name 5 minutes after being introduced and I'm not 79 years of age. I thanked him for coming out of retirement, and he said " It's the best thing I ever did".

Many of you know and followed I was part of a research team that traced Cheney's illegal sales of dual use nuke components to countries on the forbidden list, as well as Sibel Edmonds' ( who was gagged by Ashcroft) "secrets" in " Sibel Speaks Farsi".

I spoke with a few of the congress-people about the illegalities, and with the exception of one, they jumped at it. I suspect I am being placed where I need to be, even if it means I've worked my ass (and feet) off.

Henry Waxman, surprisingly is very dimunitive - probably about 4"9 or 4"10" but what a giant work he has been doing.

Bill Clinton. What can you say.

Yesterday he was not only in Philadelphia but then flown to Miami for another speech. Today he was in Boca. When he came out a guttural roar came out of the crowd of only 1500. I've never heard anything like it. It started low and grew to a roar. Not shouting - yet - not clapping - a roar. (This was ticket/invitation only.)

Bill came out to that roar...then standing applause and applause. For those of you who don't know Boca is a wealthy area - soon there were whistles and yells. Today he looked tired and his voice started out not full bodied, and then as he warmed up to his subject, his voice gained strength.

Let me tell you. It's obvious that man could be elected a third time. Everyone left the auditorium on a high - there was such good energy.

He has an amazing delivery...and a way of slipping in a sarcastic quip that makes everyone laugh.

He's not supposed to be shaking hands and so on - germs- but he stays and does. The Secret Service wouldn't let us out until Elvis had left the building. 1500 rich people patiently waited some 45 minutes while Bill yada yada yada'd. They had their noses pressed to the doors waiting for them to open, but no one carried on or grumbled.

I wasn't that close to the front -- and I really couldn't see him well at all, just a blur of white hair and navy suit.....but hours later, my energy is still high.

The man's a magician, may God Bless him.

Posted by: Pallas18 on October 27, 2004 12:26 AM


Long but facinating...

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/17489?email

Posted by: wv on October 27, 2004 01:01 AM

BREAKING BUSH'S SPELL
by Paul Levy

It is profoundly important to recognize that the arena that the election is taking place in is the psyche, which is to say that it is dealing with our perceptions. The election is an expression of as well as revealing something deeper about the psyche and the nature of our perceptions. The election is showing how any of us, at any moment, can become unconscious, as if we have fallen asleep or under a spell. Seen as an expression of a deeper process unfolding inside the psyche that has both literally, as well as symbolically, externalized itself (gotten 'dreamed up'), the election is revealing how those who are interested in power can actually manipulate others through their weak points and blind spots so as to control them. This darker, shadowy energy that is playing out in the election is a reflection of certain tendencies deep inside the soul of humanity- abusing power over others is a process that exists deep inside the unconscious of all of us. This inner process is
simultaneously getting acted out unconsciously on the world stage and thereby visibly revealing itself "for all who have eyes to see." Seeing and naming the evil that is enacting itself in the election is the creative act that 'dis-spells' and de-potentiates the destructive consequence of this energy. This is the power of the word, the logos.
George Bush is a master hypnotist who skillfully puts people under his 'spell.' Bush 'charms' people, dis-arming and entrancing them, so that they will trust him and give their power away to him. Bush 'hooks' people by playing with their fears, which is how he is able to control and manipulate them. By evoking a primitive emotion such as fear, Bush de-potentiates the linear and logical part of the brain, and speaks directly to the reptilian, right part of the brain which is pre-verbal and has to do with our primal, animal instincts for survival.
Bush mesmerizes people by using simple, repetitive phrases. To quote Nazi propaganda chief Goebbels "Propaganda must therefore always be essentially simple and repetitious...keep repeating them in this simplified form despite the objections of the intellectuals." Bush's talking points, his buzz words, are his 'incantations.' These 'magic words' act as opiates to the fearful masses. To quote ex-Harvard University President James Bryant Conant "Some of mankind's most terrible misdeeds have been committed under the spell of certain magic words or phrases." This is, again, the power of the word. And how do we make a word? We 'spell' it.
Bush's slogans, repeated again and again, to quote George Estabrooks, author of the classic book Hypnotism, are "'burned' into the receptive subconscious minds with the permanence of an image engraved on a photographic negative." People's minds then become 'branded' and 'imprinted' with Bush's ideology. It is as if he has 'hooked' a part of their attention, so to speak, with which he can then control them. It is as if he has 'captured' their self-reflective, discriminative awareness, .and has restricted the range of their consciousness, which is the signature of a master hypnotist. Once entranced, just like members of a cult, Bush's followers, just like Hitler's, give their power over to him and become passive, subservient, and incapable of discerning truth from fiction. They become Bush's 'minions.'
Another mind-control technique that Bush, like any hypnotist, uses is to give out a double signal that is confusing and incomprehensible to the listener. Bush subtly contradicts himself, or says one thing while he is doing another, placing the listener in a double bind. This is very reminiscent of a parent who gives a conflicting message to a child: either the child is aware of the double message and is able to not get confused by it, or they collapse into an unconscious hypnotic state in which they have dis-connected from their true self. Doing something, while at the same time explaining that he's not doing it, is both 'crazy-making' while at the same time being the mark of a 'black magician.' Bush's flawless illogic, if followed unthinkingly, will 'lull' the listener into a state of somnambulistic trance, as if they have fallen asleep. Once people become 'bewitched' by Bush's spell, there is no talking with them rationally, as the logical part of their brain has been dis-a
rmed.
Bush is so completely dissociated from certain parts of himself that he has fallen into the pathological state of lying and believing his own lies. To quote Jung "Nothing has such a convincing effect as a lie one invents and believes oneself." Like a typical fundamentalist, Bush has the certainty of someone who is only identified with one side of a two-sided polarity. This gives him a charisma that is very seductive. Bush is unconsciously identified with and projects out the image of the all-powerful, divinely inspired 'positive father,' who saves and protects his children from evil. His supporters want to believe this to feed their own adolescent fantasies of wanting to have a positive father figure to take care of and protect them. Because of this need they invest, so to speak, in Bush's delusion, which just confirms to Bush all the more that he indeed is God's instrument. Bush and his supporters, with their mutually simplistic and psychologically under-developed view of 'g
ood and
evil,' reciprocally feed and support each other's unconscious fear and narcissism. It is as if, to quote John Kerry, they are living in a "fantasy world of spin."
Bush is embodying an insidious pathology that is contagious and very malignant. Bush's malignant narcissism is such that he is able to 'con' and seduce people into believing his own narcissistic delusions, which just feeds and supports his psychosis. Bush's pathology is so extreme that he is actually able to transform and 'dream up' reality as evidence that confirms his delusion. People who support Bush are actually complicit with and enabling Bush's madness in a co-dependent, self-reinforcing feedback loop that is 'closed,' which is to say it is insular and not open to any feedback from the 'real' world.
Bush supporters are not merely disinterested in seeing that they are in denial of reality; on the contrary, they actively don't want to look at this, which is to say they resist self-reflection at all costs. All of Bush's supporters mutually reinforce each other's unconscious resistance to such a degree that a collective, interdependent field of impenetrability gets collectively conjured up by them that literally resists consciousness. Insanely, Bush and his supporters perversely interpret any feedback from the real world which is reflecting back their unconsciousness as itself evidence that proves the rightness of their viewpoint.
People who have fallen under Bush's spell and support him have gotten unwittingly 'drafted' into supporting a madman's delusion. Once people become entranced by Bush, they become part of and absorbed into a self-generating 'psychic epidemic' whose basis is fear and unconsciousness. This is why Jung says "The supreme danger which threatens individuals as well as whole nations is a psychic danger." Jung felt strongly that "political mass movements of our time are psychic epidemics, in other words, mass psychoses." It is important to recognize that Bush and his supporters are all suffering from a 'collective psychosis.' Once we recognize this, we snap out of our spell and go from being part of the problem to part of the solution. In other words, if you don't see Bush is crazy, you're crazy!
People who are following Bush as he leads us off a cliff are actually entranced by their mind's own projections, hallucinating that Bush is a good leader no matter how much overwhelming evidence there is to the contrary. People who support Bush have had their critical, discriminative faculties dis-abled by Bush's spell- Bush supporters are clearly not able to tell the difference between fantasy and reality. They simply split-off from and ignore the cognitive dissonance between what Bush is saying and what he is actually doing.
People who can't discriminate between fantasy and reality? People who can't tell the difference between their hallucinations and what is real? Sounds like we're describing people who are 'crazy.' It is quite a shock to realize that if we had supported Bush we had fallen asleep, as if under a spell, and to say it more forcefully- had gone 'temporarily insane.' What else would we call supporting a madman and criminal for our leader? Realizing that we had suffered a temporary 'break from reality' is a completely shattering experience that is to be avoided at all costs. Because this realization is so painful to the ego, there is a dis-incentive to open our eyes and look.
This is why there is such incredible resistance among Bush supporters to simply self-reflect and look at the real-world evidence: they would then come face to face with the devastating realization that they've been 'out of their minds' to support Bush. They would be like a cult-member who snaps out of the collective brainwashing of the cult- it is simultaneously a liberating and traumatizing realization, creating a form of post-traumatic stress disorder. The trauma of this realization, to quote Jung "is disagreeable and therefore not popular." It is therefore resisted at all costs.
To see through our false illusions and imaginary projections and realize that Bush is actually a madman and criminal is an extremely shocking experience. To realize that we have given away our trust and power to a wolf in sheep's clothing is mortifying to the ego. To realize that we have been conned, swindled and our pockets picked if we had supported Bush is an infuriating, humiliating and humbling experience. To realize that we've been hoodwinked into 'selling our soul' is horrifying, truly our worst nightmare.
Realizing our complicity in Bush's evil gets us in touch with our guilt, shame and sin. Interestingly, the experience of guilt, shame and sin is the very thing that Bush himself seems so unable to experience. To quote Jung "If only people could realize what an enrichment it is to find one's own guilt, what a sense of honor and spiritual dignity...it is indeed no small matter to know of one's own guilt and one's own evil..without guilt, unfortunately, there can be no psychic maturation and no widening of the spiritual horizon." Consciously experiencing our guilt, sin and shame cuts our arrogance to the quick, wounds our narcissism to the core and humbles our ego. Seeing our own darkness gives rise to genuine remorse, which interestingly enough, is the very feeling that George Bush himself seems unable to experience. We realize that to support George Bush is to fall under the dark power of delusion and is thereby a genuine 'sin,' whose inner meaning is 'to miss the mark.'
To see the evil that is coming through George Bush, however, is to realize it is a reflection of our own evil. In supporting an abuser like Bush, we ourselves had become the abuser. This reflection is the very thing that we all look away from, as it shatters our image of who we imagine we are. To look in the mirror, whose inner meaning is 'shadow holder,' is to see our own dark side, the 'other' in ourselves. Just like a vampire can't stand the light of consciousness, the darkness in ourselves can't stand to be seen, as to be seen takes away its autonomy and omnipotence. Once illumined, the darkness can't act itself out through us unconsciously anymore. This is why Jung says "One does not become enlightened by imagining figures of light, but by making the darkness conscious." If we want Bush and his supporters to see their own darkness, we have to model this realization for them and see and embrace the darkness inside ourselves that they are a reflection of.
It is truly 'dis-illusioning' and 'dis-enchanting' to realize that someone we trusted, such as George Bush, does not have our best interest in mind. It is totally 'mortifying' to see our own potential for self-deception, and, even worse, for evil. We are at a 'crisis' point in history, which medically speaking, is the climax of an illness. Will we all become suicide bombers as we unconsciously collaborate in destroying the planet, or will we see through our projections and wake up?
To quote Jung "We are threatened with universal genocide if we cannot work out the way of salvation by a symbolic death." And what is this 'symbolic death' of which Jung speaks? To see through our fantasy illusions and withdraw a projection from the world is nothing other than the 'symbolic death' that Jung is referring to. When we see through and withdraw our projections, it is like a part of us that was living in illusion has died. The ego resists this 'dis-spelling' of our illusions, as it demands that we change, which the ego equates with death. This shattering of our projections, however, has a positive aspect, as it is simultaneously a liberation out of our spell of delusion into a deeper, more expansive level of awakening.
To quote Jung "If the projected content is to be healed, it must return into the psyche of the individual, where it had its unconscious beginnings. He must celebrate a Last Supper with himself, and eat his own flesh and drink his own blood; which means that he must recognize and accept the other in himself..Is this perhaps the meaning of Christ's teaching, that each must bear his own cross?"

Posted by: wv on October 27, 2004 01:34 AM

Wonderful articles and comments everyone - have missed regular contact. After living out of a suitcase since July, we finally have all our 'stuff' and I am online again in NZ as of last week.
Trying to get caught up on US news and TV program transcripts, I discovered PBS Frontline is airing "Rumsfeld's War" on the 28th. Rather interesting full moon timing I thought. They have a good timeline on all the warmonger players since the days of Nixon link too. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/pentagon/
Its good to be back here.
Aloha
Jeanie

Posted by: Jeanie on October 27, 2004 02:22 AM

Jeannie, how is NZ?!?!

Posted by: Pat C on October 27, 2004 02:26 AM

http://www.tomdispatch.com/index.mhtml?emx=x&pid=1939

Tomgram: Ariel Dorfman on the struggle for America’s soul

As Ariel Dorfman wrote in an essay collected in his new book Other Septembers, Many Americas, sometime before September 11th -- 1973, not 2001 -- he took to the streets of Santiago with other Chilean demonstrators crying out, "It can't happen here!" But, of course, it did happen there on that very September 11th. The head of the Chilean military Gen. Augusto Pinochet, with U.S. encouragement and support, took over the country, crushed the opposition, destroyed Salvador Allende's socialist government, and created a military/police state. Yes, it happened there. It could even happen here.

In fact, it's an irony that, while the issue of "the fall of the Republic" continues to be of great concern to anti-imperial conservatives, it's proved less so for the anti-imperial left, many of whom perhaps believe that the American Republic has long since been ground into the dust, if it ever existed. Well, as the saying goes, you don't know what you've lost until you actually lose it. Ariel Dorfman, who once lost everything, knows. (In this light, I recommend the Nation magazine's endorsement of John Kerry for president. Its second half offers a chilling account of the factor's that might indeed lead to the final shredding of the American Republic in a Bush second term.)

Dorfman's essay below approaches this subject from a more optimistic perspective. In fact, it seems to me to strike just the right note, acknowledging not only the losses and disasters of the last three years, but the recent upsurge of creative opposition in this country and, looking beyond the elections, what it may mean for our future. After all, whether John Kerry or George Bush wins, we'll need a growing antiwar movement led, at least in part, by the military families of our soldiers in Iraq, by returned vets, and perhaps even by soldiers in Iraq. Here, for instance, is a letter that appeared this week in the New York Times by the mother of a soldier who die! d in Iraq. It catches the spirit of the moment:

"To the Editor:

"'Scary Ads Take Campaign to a Grim New Level' (front page, Oct. 17) cites my Real Voices ad about the death in Iraq of my son Casey as one of many 'scary' campaign ads this year. Trust me, the families of soldiers who serve under President Bush's reckless leadership experience things far scarier than seeing a crying mother on television.

"Scary is the sound of an unexpected knock on the door in the middle of the day.

"Scary is hearing that yet another young soldier - or several - died today, and not knowing whether that's your child they're talking about.

More...

Posted by: Pat C on October 27, 2004 02:44 AM

Aloha, Jeannie.

I/we've missed you. Glad you arrived in NZ safely.

Welcome back!

Sharon (Katz)

Posted by: Sharon on October 27, 2004 02:54 AM

Light a candle. Here's a forwarded message from a website I subscribe to:

Dear Family & Friends,


Please read the following and join us on October 27th, 2004, in creating
"CANDLES ACROSS AMERICA" to Light the way for the 2004 Presidential
Election.


This is a vitally important time for America. Some of us have felt
paralyzed, as if, beyond campaigning and voting, there is little we can do
as
individuals. But there is. One person can make a difference (think Rosa
Parks,
Gandhi, Winston Churchill, fill in your own personal hero here). The Light
within you, the power of consciousness, has the power to manifest reality.


And Millions of US working together can move mountains. After all, if you
look at US, aren't those the initials for the United States? Doesn't it
make
sense that if all of US unite, we can bring our country (U.S.) back into the
Light again? Working together we can bathe America in Light for peace,
enlightenment and to ensure a fair, just and ethically conducted U.S.
Presidential Election on November 2nd, 2004, along with a safe and
successful
inauguration of that race's correct winner.


HERE'S ALL YOU HAVE TO DO:


1. Any time in the two hours before 8:07 pm Pacific Daylight Time
(11:07
Eastern, 10:07 Central, 9:07 Mountain) (U.S.) on October 27th, 2004 (the
time of the Full Moon/Lunar Eclipse), light a white candle - any size
larger
than a birthday candle will do. Try to light it between twenty-five minutes
before to five minute before the hour to take advantage of an hourly tide.
A
white candle represents Clarity, Light, and Truth - something we really
need in
these times.


2. Sit with your candle and visualize Brilliant White Light flooding
the
Oval Office, the White House, the U.S. Senate and House of Representatives,
the Supreme Court, the Pentagon, every physical ballot, every polling
booth,
every voting precinct, every ballot box, every place and everyone
responsible
for conducting the election process, especially the places where votes are
tallied and the people who tally them. See every major and minor news
outlet
(especially TV and cable networks, wire services, news people covering the
election) infused with Brilliant White Light.


3. See the election process proceeding normally without trouble or
interference of any kind. See the correct winner announced and the news
people
announcing the correct winner bathed in Light. Bathe your area and the
entire
country and all of its citizens, especially those able to vote, in
Brilliant
White Light and see them freely casting their votes without impediment of
any kind and see all of their votes accurately counted.


4. If need be, see the Supreme Court and judicial system backing up a
fair and accurate tally.


5. See the correct winner successfully inaugurated and safely fulfill
his term over the next four years.


AFFIRM: "The 2004 U.S. Presidential Election is conducted fairly and
ethically in each and every detail without interruption or interference of
any
kind."


· Feel free to add your own prayers and positive White Light
visualizations and affirmations.


· Perform this exercise in groups or in conjunction with your own
spiritual practices.


· Do this exercise even starting now but especially on October 27th as
discussed above when we will all be working together.


· Do this with all your heart, all your soul, all of your mind, all of
your senses and feel the energy flow!!!


· Banish any fear or anxiety you may have about the American
situation.
Let only strong, positive, peaceful and even joyful feelings provide the
force for your visualizations and affirmations.


Copy this and paste it into a new email and send it on to as many others
you
can think of who would be interested in doing this vital work. We need to
get it out to as many spiritually conscious folks as we possibly can by the
26th. Post it on your website, hand it out as a flyer, whatever it takes
to
help get the word out to as many individuals, groups and organizations as
possible.


IF WE ALL WORK TOGETHER, WE CANNOT FAIL. IF WE WORK TOGETHER,
ENLIGHTENMENT, JUSTICE, TRUTH AND A FAIR AND ETHICAL ELECTION, AND
RESULTING INAUGURATION
WILL PREVAIL.


WORKING TOGETHER WE CAN TURN THE COURSE OF THIS DARK TIDE. WE CAN CREATE
LIGHT IF EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US IS WILLING TO MARK OUR CALENDARS AND TAKE
THE
TIME TO BE A "CANDLE ACROSS AMERICA."


We can't emphasize enough how important this is: that we the people stand
for something again in this beloved country of ours.

Another note of interest, is that there will be a Grand Quintile as well,
see the link below for details.


_http://www.astrologycom.com/grandquintile1.html_
(http://www.astrologycom.com/grandquintile1.html)
The Grand Quintile is a rare aspect that always presages powerfully
significant changes in the human condition. This unusual aspect, first
delineated by
Johannes Kepler, is a division of the 360 degree circumference of the
zodiac
by 5, producing a five-pointed star (or pentagram Grand Quintiles occur in October 2004, the first on October 1 and the
second on
October 28, in close conjunction with a _lunar eclipse_ (http://www.ast
rologycom.com/eclipse.html) . Thus the Solar Eclipse occurs at the
mid-point of two
Grand Quintiles, a rare occurrence indeed.

The Global Spiritual Network

Posted by: Patricia on October 27, 2004 03:33 AM

Stand up and be counted....

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/printer_102704V.shtml

Posted by: wv on October 27, 2004 03:48 AM

Today, we got the endorsement from one of the three big newspapers in the district. The endorsement reads as though they wanted to endorse a Republican for the seat, but the Republican candidate sucked so badly that they had to endorse the Democrat (my candidate). The state Republican Party is being continually inundated with calls from angry Republicans.

And now the Republican campaign is positioning to go after me. Since I'm from out of state, they're trying to make it seem like the job of campaign manager was "outsourced." (Remember, I got this job on the Venus occultation back on June 8 and moved to Michigan from Texas).

Well, let me tell you: they better not try to pull that kind of bullshit on me. I'm not the candidate. My family back home will not stand by and allow them to attack me in this way. If they try anything, they're in for a BIG surprise.

Posted by: Dave on October 27, 2004 03:52 AM

Florida

Theresa LePore, she of the hanging chads, has done it again.

Besides not putting enough voting machines in each
of the few places open for early voting, causing long long lines and 2 1/2 hour waits, which causes
the early voters to turn around and go home....

Theresa, who switched to Republican after the butterfly ballot, (as if she wasn't before) has already thrown out 14,000 absentee ballots.

Why?

At the bottom, under the pledge that you are a
US Citizen, there is a place to sign. You sign.

BUT her hanging chad is: she also placed a box next to it, and if you dont put a check in the box that you are a citizen, despite signing, she
throws the vote away.

And a republican judge has agreed with her.

Neptune Direct.

Posted by: Pallas18 on October 27, 2004 03:55 AM

Morgana, another great article. It gives me hope that the future will be a better place. After another snide email from my Repug sister (a Sag) I needed to be assured that the energy is more what I feel. (Seems like something big and good is trying to break through.) She, and other Repugs seem like cornered, snarling beasts with their claws and fangs out ready to rip and tear at anything that comes too close. No way to logically reason with them when they are in a frenzied adrenaline haze.
Sorry about the weird [and unnecessary] post I made before I've been having constant computer problems. I guess I'm lucky to only be having a case of the "computer gremlins" (since the solar eclipse funny enough). Even took it to the shop for a week and they couldn't find anything wrong with it.
Jaycee, thanks for Brock's letter. Wow hope it gets to them, that Limburger stinks!
WV, thanks for the Paul Levy article, it explains the mystery of dubya's seemingly endless black magic. Printed it out for my social psychologist husband to read because he could not explain how dubya does it either!
Wish I'd done early voting here, even though this area is mostly democratic, my nerves can't take the waiting.
DU had the BBC newscast site showing the Florida cheating that's been going on. It's nice to see someone reporting it. It's just that I think they've got a dozen other schemes going on that Greg hasn't stumbled on yet.

Posted by: Jill G on October 27, 2004 04:37 AM

Can she somehow be deported to SOUTH America? That's been a banana republic for a long time. She'll fit right in.

Posted by: Pat C on October 27, 2004 04:50 AM

"The fix is in" is something that is horrifying to most of us. Let us hope that Florida can be cleansed of the negative influences. Keep up the good work, Pallas.

Posted by: arbustochalapa on October 27, 2004 05:08 AM

Click on your state and find out your voting rights! Copy and take with you when you vote - it's all legal!

http://www.ourvote.com/

Posted by: Jill G on October 27, 2004 05:12 AM

Patricia,

Thank you for sharing the info about "Candles Across America."on the eclipse. I've already e-mailed it to friends.


Recently read somewhere that the reason there is so much negativity right now is that it is being brought up fast to be cleared because there has been and is tremendous light now coming onto the planet. It has something to do with the rare Venus transit that happened on June 8th. Our job is to stay aligned with and centered in that light and not get caught in the negativity.

Posted by: Jaycee on October 27, 2004 05:44 AM

i think bhakti and i are on the same 'psychic hotline'. everytime i see kerry in the past three days, i just look at his face and see animation and 'winning' energy. whenever i see bush, i see fatigue and rage right on the surface. i think there may be some temper tantrum off stage but heard by an audience or a minor to moderte meltdown by bush in public.

kerry's face is really interesting. i turned off the sound a couple of times and just watched. it's something i recommend you try. he looks animated.

i just saw 'bad religion' at the 9:30 club in dc. they're a punk-rock band with a real political message (they've been around since the 80's and they're very smart). at one point, one of the band members asked how many in the audience were registered. literally everybody raised their hands - this was largely an 18-22 year old crowd (felt like a 'den father' haha). if they were telling the truth, these are the cyber-punk cell phone using demographic nobody is polling. as morganna says whadaHOOT!

can't wait for the eclipse.

LAISSEZ LES BON TEMPS ROULEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: mike on October 27, 2004 07:38 AM

forgot 'the sign': the last song 'bad religion' did (part of a three song encore) was 'sorrow' (about bush and his daddy) which ended with:

"and there will be sorrow
and there wlll be sorrow
and there will be sorrow
...............NO MORE"

i walked out of the club, looked up at the sky around 11:30, and there was a beautiful patch of white clouds (small puffs with sky background like a quilt). the nearly full moon was right in the middle of the clouds surrounded by a large rainbow.

WE WIN by 2:OO AM, 11/3/04 east cost time!

Posted by: mike on October 27, 2004 07:48 AM

Thanks Mike,

Good news about the young people... I feel the energy... we'll win... glad for the 2:00 a.m. prediction... thanks!

Dave,

Hang in there! Repugs are used to intimidating and getting what they want... just remember 'this to shall pass'... we're family too... and you're right, they won't get by with treating you that way... lots of white light to you...

Namaste

Posted by: Jo on October 27, 2004 01:30 PM

Coping with the post-election world
A conversation with Paul Rogat Loeb
Geov Parrish
WorkingForChange.com
10.25.04
http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?ItemID=17952

Paul Rogat Loab has been a Seattle author and social activist for over 30 years, best known for the groundbreaking work Soul of a Citizen. His newest book, The Impossible Will Take a Little While, is an anthology of writings on citizen activism featuring contributions from Nelson Mandela, Arundhati Roy, and countless others.

Loeb spoke recently with me about what awaits us after the November 2 election.

GP: So it's midnight on November 3, and the election is over. Now what?

PL: Well, the first thing is to take some time and breathe. People have been working so hard, or even just been so emotionally invested, and the result is going to mean a lot. We'll need to take some time to either grieve and mourn or to celebrate, depending on who wins. And then, again regardless of who wins, we'll need at some point to get back to work, because we'll have a lot of work to do.

more.....

Posted by: Shade on October 27, 2004 01:50 PM


Why Africa would vote for Kerry...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,5048794-105806,00.html

Posted by: wv on October 27, 2004 01:57 PM

More from Maya: http://www.daykeeperjournal.com/calendar.shtml

WEDNESDAY OCTOBER 27. Full Moon Lunar Eclipse at 6 Taurus occurs at 11:07 p.m. EDT. This eclipse is visible over much of the world, including North America. It is a total eclipse, lasting about 6 hours, and we in the U.S. get to see it in its entirety.

We had a solar eclipse in Libra, which is realigning relationships. Now we have a lunar eclipse in Taurus, which is realigning our use of energy. This eclipse includes both north and south polar regions, and (among other things) it may well be connected with global warming, which is picking up speed at a rapid rate. Glaciers in Antarctica are melting ten times as fast as they were in 1990, and Russia, who has been a holdout, is getting ready to sign the Kyoto Treaty on climate control.

Both of these autumn eclipses are matched by their opposite signs, Aries and Scorpio, in spring eclipses, very close to the same degrees as are these autumn eclipses. This gives a double whammy to the Aries-Libra and to the Taurus-Scorpio polarities—relationships, and energy use and transformation. Both the October and April eclipses are heavily involved with Saturn and with Chiron. The Saturn-Chiron opposition has been with us since August 2003, when security became acknowledged as a huge problem in Iraq. It has been involved in many of the critical dates since, including the coming election on November 2.

This Saturn-Chiron opposition is primarily about the realignment of governmental security structures. "Terrorism" (Chiron and Juno) and "security" (Saturn in Cancer) have been the watchwords of the Administration over many months. Chiron’s job is to realign, and in Capricorn, it is disrupting and shifting government, business, and other established institutions.

The matching of degrees in the eclipse oppositions indicates that we are now commencing a process of change which will not be completed until next May, when Saturn returns to its degree of the First Quarter Moon of a week ago. There are two big obvious differences between this pair of autumn eclipses, and the pair of spring eclipses:

(1) Aries and Scorpio, the signs of the spring eclipses, are more volatile than the autumn eclipse pair of Libra and Taurus. They are both Mars-ruled, and

(2) The Moon’s Nodes will have changed signs by then. They are now in Taurus and Scorpio, and by next April, they will be in Aries and Libra. The Nodal polarity represents an axis of destiny for the entire world. That axis is in the same polarity for about 18 months. Our major concern for the last year and half has been resources and energy. Beginning in December, we shift to concerns about partnership and connections. Aries-Libra is a competitive polarity, and is often connected with conflict.

These pairs of eclipses fall this month in October, and in the spring in April. In such a situation, major manifestations of the eclipse changes often occur during the midpoint month, in this case January 2005.

We might look at it this way: Changes which are set in motion now reach a kind of culmination in January, and are set into place by May.

As I write, I see that these times include the presidential election, and the presidential inauguration. Looks like change, folks. Further confirmation of the election of Kerry is that he wants to be involved in partnerships and alliances, whereas Bush is the big money guy.

cont......

Posted by: Shade on October 27, 2004 02:12 PM


US gave date of war to Britain in advance...

http://news.independent.co.uk/low_res/story.jsp?story=576429&host=3&dir=62

Posted by: wv on October 27, 2004 02:23 PM

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/g/a/2004/10/27/notes102704.DTL&type=printable

Mark Morford

Write More About Skull & Bones
Secret societies? UFOs? The truth about what *really* happened on 9/11? The media cowers.

snip...

And it is the place the Powers That Be will toss any sinister and dark questions about their behavior, safe in the knowledge that anyone who goes to look for the answer will have to dive into that gnarled world and will look foolish and silly and will be probably be laughed off the stage.

Sometimes it's all you -- or I -- can do to hint at the existence of these radical notions and illuminate the frightening possibilities and scream into the Void, hoping to agitate and inform and inspire while still covering your professional butt. A copout? Maybe. But then again, if there's an alternative, I have yet to find it.

And the truth is, we don't really want such unstable questions answered. We simply cannot tolerate to have our world, our leaders, our foundations so questioned. We prefer stasis to growth, security to true knowledge, blind faith to chaotic sticky self-defined wonder.

After all, once you allow the real possibility of UFOs or psychic healing or crop-circle phenomena or the notion that we could very well have a hugely malicious, criminal U.S. government capable of pulling a 9/11 on its own citizens, well, the happy capitalistic all-American Christian world begins to implode. Foundations crumble. Trust in our institutions vanishes. Gods fall and doctrines crumble and televangelists spontaneously combust and everyone starts reimagining the social order in ways that absolutely terrify those who now hold the reins.

Real truth, after all, often means anarchy, disorder, revolution. And God knows we can't have that.

Posted by: Pat C on October 27, 2004 04:21 PM

I so love you Sally and I so appreciate this site that you have provided to all of us.

I truly dislike those cards in the upper right hand corner of the site. Bush looks noble. Clinton looks debauched. Kerry looks like he's been crying in the corner and told to get busy.

I just don't like them or their images.

I do love you Sally.

Posted by: Pat C on October 27, 2004 04:25 PM

Link below will take you to kos diary and two photos of Kerry - 3rd photo is of dubya, imitating Jimmy Swaggart or some televangelist by 'laying on of hands' --- disgusting...

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/10/27/33510/421

Posted by: Jo on October 27, 2004 05:08 PM

Actually Jo, Bush is using his left hand, the recieving hand, so he's probably sucking out her brain power.

;-)

Posted by: Pat C on October 27, 2004 05:17 PM

Pat C.,

ROFL... you saved me... I was lost in this fog of worry about folks who believe this trash... you saved me, Pat C., thank you... ROFL

Posted by: Jo on October 27, 2004 05:29 PM

Speaking of evangelicals, LATimes: Karl Rove take note -- evangelicals won't necessarily vote knee-jerk for Bush.

http://www.latimes.com/la-na-evangelicals27oct27,0,3515837.story?coll=la-home-headlines

Posted by: Jo on October 27, 2004 05:31 PM

Can ya spell B_R_O_K_E yet? Tell that to your undecided or Repub friends... Kos has results of Treasury Report 9/30/2004 at this link, $412 B deficit this year... this administration will go down (for sure) in the annals of history as the pirates who broke us economically --- not to mention the deficits in other areas --- urghhhhh! Come on Nov. 2nd/3rd... GO KERRY! GO EDWARDS! GO JOHN-JOHN! GO PEOPLE! Light to all

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/10/27/122826/73

Posted by: Jo on October 27, 2004 05:43 PM

KOS is such a great site. It's a wealth of accumulated facts.

It's true Jo. The Bushes have apparently spent their collective lives taking and destroying, rather than giving and creating. I suppose there is some kind of special karma for that kind of a gene pool achievement. I can hope.

As Clinton said, if you have one guy trying to scare you to death and the other who is telling you to think and hope, you'd better pick the one who says to think and hope.

Posted by: Pat C on October 27, 2004 06:00 PM

Jo, thanks for being an uplifting cheerleader. If B* ever layed his hands on me I'd deal with him myself. Nasty.

Dave,
Democratic Underground helped to spread the Sinclair boycott that worked. So if Repugs make it personal, I'd let DU in on it and ask for their help. So glad your third eye is open. Take care.


Posted by: bhakti on October 27, 2004 06:06 PM

This is wonderful!

http://www.mydd.com/

A 50,000-100,000 Hispanic Vote Switch in Florida?
by Matt Stoller

Conflict of interest alert here: I do consulting work for NDN.

Zogby just did a poll in Florida, taking into account the Hispanic community.  I want to focus on Dade County, the largest county in Florida and a predominantly Democratic district.

In 2000 - Gore 53  Bush 46
Recent Zogby - Kerry 55  Bush 41

What does this mean, and where is the shift?

First of all, this is a move from a Democratic seven point lead to a Democratic fourteen point lead.  Assuming 750,000 Miami-Dade voters on 11/2 - this translates into an extra NET 50,000 votes for the Democrats, not including new voters (and there are a lot of them).  There is record early voting, with lines of three or four hours on sunny weekend days (people aren't doing this because they think the country is heading in the right direction).

Click "Extended Entry" for the rest...

Demographics :: Wed Oct 27th, 2004 at 12:53:34 PM EST :: Extended Entry (778 words in entry) ::

Posted by: Pat C on October 27, 2004 06:09 PM

GOPs Shameful Vote Stragegy

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A707-2004Oct26.html

snip...

For George W. Bush, Karl Rove and their legion of genteel thugs, however, universal suffrage is just one more musty liberal ideal that threatens conservative rule. Today's Republicans have elevated vote suppression from a dirty secret to a public norm.


In Ohio, Republicans have recruited 3,600 poll monitors and assigned them disproportionately to such heavily black areas as inner-city Cleveland, where Democratic "527" groups have registered many tens of thousands of new voters. "The organized left's efforts to, quote unquote, register voters -- I call them ringers -- have created these problems" of potential massive vote fraud, Cuyahoga County Republican Chairman James P. Trakas recently told the New York Times.

More...

Posted by: Pat C on October 27, 2004 06:37 PM

In connection with this news, we have assembled 100 notable Americans and 40 family members of those who died to sign this 9/11 Statement, which calls for immediate public attention to unanswered questions that suggest that people within the current administration may indeed have deliberately allowed 9/11 to happen, perhaps as a pretext for war.

We want truthful answers to questions such as:

Why were standard operating procedures for dealing with hijacked airliners not followed that day?

Why were the extensive missile batteries and air defenses reportedly deployed around the Pentagon not activated during the attack?

Why did the Secret Service allow Bush to complete his elementary school visit, apparently unconcerned about his safety or that of the schoolchildren?

Why hasn't a single person been fired, penalized, or reprimanded for the gross incompetence we witnessed that day?

Why haven't authorities in the U.S. and abroad published the results of multiple investigations into trading that strongly suggested foreknowledge of specific details of the 9/11 attacks, resulting in tens of millions of dollars of traceable gains?

Why has Sibel Edmonds, a former FBI translator who claims to have knowledge of advance warnings, been publicly silenced with a gag order requested by Attorney General Ashcroft and granted by a Bush-appointed judge?

How could Flight 77, which reportedly hit the Pentagon, have flown back towards Washington D.C. for 40 minutes without being detected by the FAA's radar or the even superior radar possessed by the US military?

How were the FBI and CIA able to release the names and photos of the alleged hijackers within hours, as well as to visit houses, restaurants, and flight schools they were known to frequent?

What happened to the over 20 documented warnings given our government by 14 foreign intelligence agencies or heads of state?

Why did the Bush administration cover up the fact that the head of the Pakistani intelligence agency was in Washington the week of 9/11 and reportedly had $100,000 wired to Mohamed Atta, considered the ringleader of the hijackers?

Why did the 911 Commission fail to address most of the questions posed by the families of the victims, in addition to almost all of the questions posed here?

Why was Philip Zelikow chosen to be the Executive Director of the ostensibly independent 911 Commission although he had co-authored a book with Condoleezza Rice?

more...
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041026093059633

Posted by: shade on October 27, 2004 06:43 PM

Florida Polls Today after Clinton's visit

Kerry 50

Bush 47

before Clinton's visit it was
Bush 49
Kerry 48

This is the orothodox Jewish Community which is
being told by the Rabbis to vote for Bush, that he
supports Israel.

If you run into any of them, remind them that Bush's personal lawyer and envoy to Saudi Arabia
Attorney and former Sec of State said"

"F--k the Jews, they never vote for us anyway".

And you might remind them that FDR was going to have Prescott Bush arrested for financing the Nazis, that Auschwitz was built next to Thiessen Steel which Prescott Bush managed, and used Jewish slave labor from the camps to produce bullets and steel to kill American soldiers in WW2.

Posted by: Pallas18 on October 27, 2004 07:06 PM

You go Pallas 18!!! Yes!!! Nazis, that what the Bushites were and ARE...

Thank you for all that you are doing... and what a thrill yesterday's breakfast must have been for you...! Light and protection to you...

Posted by: Jo on October 27, 2004 07:21 PM

'scuse me... correction... Present Bushites are fascists... subtle difference, I know... but they don't have an 'official' party as yet. Do they?

Posted by: Jo on October 27, 2004 07:23 PM

So many reasons to prosecute, so little time.

http://www.ariannaonline.com/columns/column.php?id=740

Faith Abuse: When God Becomes A Campaign Ploy

Posted by: Pat C on October 27, 2004 07:26 PM

http://www.madcowprod.com/

Posted by: Pat C on October 27, 2004 07:34 PM

ABCNEWS HOLDS TERROR WARNING TAPE

**Exclusive**

In the last week before the election, ABCNEWS is holding a videotaped message from a purported al Qaeda terrorist warning of a new attack on America, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.

The terrorist claims on tape the next attack will dwarf 9/11. "The streets will run with blood," and "America will mourn in silence" because they will be unable to count the number of the dead. Further claims: America has brought this on itself for electing George Bush who has made war on Islam by destroying the Taliban and making war on Al Qaeda.

ABCNEWS strongly denies holding the tape back from broadcast over political concerns during the last days of the election.

The CIA is analyzing the tape, a top federal source tells the DRUDGE REPORT.

ABCNEWS obtained the tape from a source in Waziristan, Pakistan over the weekend, sources tells DRUDGE.

"We have been working 24 hours a day trying to authenticate [the tape]," a senior ABCNEWS source said Wednesday morning, dismissing a claim that ABC was planning to air portions of the video during Monday's WORLD NEWS TONIGHT.

The terrorist's face is concealed by a headdress, and he speaks in an American accent, making it difficult to identify the individual.

US intelligence officials believe the man on tape may be Adam Gadhan - aka Adam Pearlman, a California native who was highlighted by the FBI in May as an individual most likely to be involved in or have knowledge of the next al Qaeda attacks.

According to the FBI, Gadahn, 25, attended al-Qaida training camps and served as an al-Qaida translator.

The disturbing tape runs an hour -- the man simply identifies himself as 'Assam the American.'

MORE

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Filed By Matt Drudge

Posted by: wv on October 27, 2004 07:39 PM

wv, I was just going to post that. Luckily Josh Marshall is on it.

Josh says he's full of crap.
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/week_2004_10_24.php#003817

There really are truth heros out there.

Posted by: Pat C on October 27, 2004 07:47 PM

Morgana, thanks. You have caught the current atmosphere and currents perfectly. Also thanks to all for the wonderful posts. I always want to converse with everybody, which wouldn't be practical.

Now shameless self-indulgence, here is a dream I had last night. I was on the front porch of the house where I'm visiting and saw a kitten that someone--in my dream I was sure it was a child--had attached playing cards to with twine. There were face cards and high cards--mostly hearts but at least one spade. While I was thinking I would cut the twine so the kitten wouldn't be hurt, I heard many planes. Looked up and saw clearly US planes in close formation heading west. They were large, like troop carriers or bombers.

Usually I can figure out my dreams, but this one is a puzzler. Free association says--cat, 9 lives, kitten--something young & fragile, "it's in the cards". Have no idea about the planes--but just today learned that there was a bad earthquake in Japan recently (US news is so insular). Since the whole Pacific rim is affected by any part I wondered if a US west coast earthquake is ahead and help would be headed that way.
(Hope that isn't the case.)

Well, this sounds like so much blather, but if anyone wants to comments I would be very interested and appreciative. Occasionally I have precognitive dreams, but have never been able to figure them out until after the event.

Posted by: Barbara on October 27, 2004 07:57 PM

Writing something out is really helpful. After posting above I had an "aha" experience:

Something new (though fragile) is in the cards.

Bombing and troop invasions are "heading west"--an old expression for death, i.e., the end of something. No more bombing and invasion.

I think that is it.

Posted by: Barbara on October 27, 2004 08:13 PM

Barbara, how interesting! Those planes wouldn't be to help the West Coast, Bush doesn't like any of us, California, Oregon or Washington. Too many Democrats. Bush and his Power Boy's broke California and Californians, hobbled one might say. Roiling sea of blue out here.

Posted by: Morgana on October 27, 2004 08:20 PM

Barabara, it is your dream, and how you feel about it is the most important.

I had thought that the kitten was a fragile innocent, tied up, childishly by those in high places. The were responsible for the military flights to the west. That is just a quick thought.

Meanwhile:

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/102804X.shtml

Spokesman: Unit Didn't Search Al-Qaqaa

A U.S. military unit that reached a munitions storage installation after the invasion of Iraq had no orders to search or secure the site, where officials say nearly 400 tons of explosives have vanished.


  When troops from the 101st Airborne Division's 2nd Brigade arrived at the Al-Qaqaa installation south of Baghdad a day or so after other coalition troops seized the capital on April 9, 2003, there were already looters throughout the facility, Lt. Col. Fred Wellman, deputy public affairs officer for the unit, told The Associated Press.


  The soldiers "secured the area they were in and looked in a limited amount of bunkers to ensure chemical weapons were not present in their area," Wellman wrote in an e-mail to The Associated Press. "Bombs were found but not chemical weapons in that immediate area.


  "Orders were not given from higher to search or to secure the facility or to search for HE type munitions, as they (high-explosive weapons) were everywhere in Iraq," he wrote.


  The 101st Airborne was at least the second military unit to arrive at Al-Qaqaa after the U.S.-led invasion began. Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman told The Washington Post that the 3rd Infantry Division reached the site around April 3, fought with Iraq forces and occupied the site. It left after two days for Baghdad, the Post reported Wednesday.


  AP Correspondent Chris Tomlinson, who was embedded with the 3rd Infantry but didn't go to Al-Qaqaa, described the search of Iraqi military facilities south of Baghdad as brief, cursory missions to seek out hostile troops, not to inventory or secure weapons.

More...

Posted by: Pat C on October 27, 2004 08:24 PM

GOP scared shitless of minority vote
by kos
Wed Oct 27th, 2004 at 19:00:58 GMT

Kevin Drum writes:
Republican pollster Tony Fabrizio has just finished a survey of 12 battleground states and finds Bush and Kerry tied with 47% of the vote apiece. But when he weights for minority turnout based on the 2000 exit polls, Kerry is ahead 49.2%-45.7%. And when he further updates the weighting to take into account the most recent census results, Kerry is ahead 49.9%-44.7%.
As Fabrizio blandly puts it, "It is clear that minority turnout is a wildcard in this race and represents a huge upside for Sen. Kerry and a considerable challenge for the President's campaign." More accurately, if Fabrizio is right -- that Kerry is ahead by 5% overall in the battleground states -- Kerry is a sure winner on November 2.

Suddenly the Bush campaign's obsession with challenging voters in minority neighborhoods makes a lot of sense, doesn't it? Their own internal polling is probably telling the same thing that Fabrizio's poll says: unless they somehow manage to keep the minority vote down, they're doomed.

The report is here (PDF).

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/10/27/15058/621

--------------

Now isn't that some fine old fashioned karma? Bushites have treated people of color horribly... 2000 Florida, disenfranchised them... Haiti... Iraq... Africa... America... the planet!!! Now, if turnout is heavy in minority precincts... 'Laura, call the moving van! don't worry, we'll help y'all pack! have ya out of there in nothing flat... in a New York minute!!!'

Whaaaaa Hoooooo! GO PEOPLE!

Posted by: Jo on October 27, 2004 08:37 PM

:-D

Posted by: Pat C on October 27, 2004 08:41 PM

http://www.jimhightower.com/air/read.asp?id=11514

FIGHT FOR YOUR FREEDOM TO READ

After a recent congressional vote on the "Freedom to Read Protection Act," one angry member said: "You win some, and some get stolen."

He was a Republican, defying George W, John Ashcroft, and his own party's top leadership in congress – all of whom lobbied furiously (and unethically) to defeat this act, which sought to to ensure one of our most basic American liberties: The right to keep government snoops and bullies from secretly spying on the reading habits of perfectly innocent citizens. What could be more Mom and Apple Pie than that?

Bush, Ashcroft, & Gang, however, had undermined this fundamental freedom with a nasty provision they tucked into their infamous, liberty-busting USA Patriot Act in 2001. It allows federal agents to get a secret order from a secret court to walk into any public library or bookstore and demand the records of any and all patrons, without showing anyone – even the court – any evidence that the people being investigated are involved in any criminal activity whatsoever. It's jackbooted autocratic power like this that led to the American revolution.

And just as in 1776, today's librarians, bookstore owners, writers, and freedom-loving people of all political stripes have risen up against the Bushites' authoritarian, un-American intrusion into our privacy. This grassroots uprising led to the Freedom to Read Act, which would have halted the intrusion.

The good news is that the act passed 219 to 201. The sad news is that the GOP hierarchy then cheated. They held the vote open beyond the 15 minutes allowed by the rules, taking an extra 23 minutes while the leaders broke the arms of nine Republicans, forcing them to switch votes. This finally produced a 210-210 tie, defeating the act. In other words, the Bushites stole it...and they also stole an important piece of our liberties.

But we've only begun to fight this insult to democracy. To join the uprising, call The American Library Association: 800-545-2433.

Posted by: Pat C on October 27, 2004 09:01 PM

http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/

Open letter to Americans

Posted by: Pat C on October 27, 2004 10:15 PM

Take a look at this :

LOU DOBBS TONIGHT QUICKVOTE
Will you do your part to close ranks behind whoever is elected president on November 2?
Yes
No

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/

Posted by: Morgana on October 27, 2004 11:28 PM

Pallas, I would appreciate it if you would check when you get a chance to see if the lawn signs arrived. Wouldn't want to see them go to waste if at all possible. Thank you for your hard work; we're still thinking of going to FL this weekend to help.

Secondly, my husband, Myron, rec'd a very powerful letter from an American/Israeli of dual citizenship who strongly supports John Kerry and details why he thinks Kerry cares about Israel's welfare and right to defend itself against terrorism (which does not mean, in my opinion, Israel should be able to get away with just anything). You may want to share this letter with those you know who feel Bush is better for Israel. I already have and only wish the letter had been written and distributed earlier. Now that Arafat is so ill, I wonder how the situation will manifest. Maybe Kerry will have a new Palestinian partner to negotiate peace with (along with Clinton)?

Here is the letter:

Myron,

I thought you might be interested in the letter below. This reflects my personal opinions and not my role at COEJL. Please feel free to share it broadly, but please do not post it to the Kol-Chai list.

Thanks,

Hadar Susskind

My name is Hadar Susskind and I am an Israeli/America, a former Israeli infantry soldier, and an advocate for Israel. I don’t work for a campaign, a political party, or any political group. I’m speaking only in my own voice, and only because of my love for both of my countries, America and Israel.

This is the first time I’ve ever sat down to write to people about an election or a candidate and I’m only doing it now because I truly believe that the decision we are faced with on November 2nd is one that will shape our future for generations to come.

Those of you who know me know that I am a person who is deeply committed to Israel, to the welfare of the Jewish people, and to upholding the Jewish ethic of striving for justice and righteousness in our lives and in the world around us. I am also supporting John Kerry for President.

John Kerry has a twenty-year history of working to support Israel. In fact, AIPAC has given him a perfect 100% score on Israel related votes. Even more important than his voting record is his personal commitment to Israel. He has traveled to Israel nearly a dozen times (throughout his long career of public service) and he made the most of those trips. He flew in an F-16 with Israeli pilots in order to see the Middle East from the air and get a better understanding of the security challenges that Israelis live with every day. He visited army bases and went to hospitals to speak directly with victims of terror. John Kerry understands the real effects of conflict and war in a way that comes only from experiencing them firsthand.

Over the years John Kerry has also worked closely with the Jewish community on legislation concerning Israel’s security (and an array of other community concerns) and he has built real personal relationships with Jewish leaders here in the U.S. and in Israel. There is no question in my mind that an America led by John Kerry will always be there for Israel.

There are two equally important things that I believe the President of the Unites States must do in order to truly be considered a friend of Israel. The first is supporting Israel in their efforts to defend themselves. John Kerry has always stood firmly with Israel and defended the necessary actions that they taken to ensure the safety and security of their citizens. He has always supported American military and financial aid to Israel, even in the face of Republican efforts to reduce both.

The second one, and this is where the Bush Administration has completely and totally failed, is that they must be committed to trying to move toward peace in the region. It is an incredibly difficult task with no easy answers. I don’t believe that you can have peace right now. I don’t think that the current leadership in the region is ready. I do think that it is essential to keep making every possible effort to move in that direction. President Bush claims that he supports Israel, yet he has withdrawn the U.S. from involvement is the one issue on which Israel’s future rests, an eventual peace with the Palestinians and peace in the Middle East.

I spent nearly three years of my life wearing the uniform of an Israeli soldier, and many years since then working for Israel and for the Jewish community. I believe that the single most important thing that we can do for America and for Israel is to cast a vote for John Kerry. Please share this email with anyone and everyone you know who cares about Israel and cares about America.

Sincerely,

Hadar Susskind

Posted by: Sharon Katz on October 27, 2004 11:39 PM

Morgana,

http://www.fibiger.org/misc/bushuncensored.mov

I just couldn't get that to fit into their poll answer options.

Posted by: Pat C on October 27, 2004 11:41 PM

Jo & all,

thanks once again for the light and protection.

It is getting violent out there.

Yesterday, after the speech, another gal and I went to a veggie restaurant for lunch and as we talked the fellow in the next booth jumped up and
shouted/snarled "if you vote for Kerry the suicide bombers are going to come and bomb you in your temples" (Bill Clinton's speech was in a temple in Boca). He was ot a Jewish person.

I told him to go away, I'd like to enjoy my lunch but he continued louder until I was shouting "get away from us" and got up to get a security guard...When I came back he had disappeared, but it upset our wonderful high and lunch.

today my republican mate was laughing as I got back into the car....the news reported that a fellow was angry because his girlfriend was going to vote for Kerry so he put a screwdriver to her neck and locked her in the closet....later arrested for assault, kidnapping etc etc. Actually I dont find it funny. That's the way things are heading.

And of course you've heard someone tried to run
down Katherine Harriss - - -with a cadillac.

Latest news: 58,000 absentee ballots missing from
Florida post office - the reason why everyone has been complaining they have not received their absentee ballots---

this is going to be nasty.

Posted by: Pallas18 on October 27, 2004 11:44 PM

Pallas,

I'm so sorry you had such an experience... how awful... when I posted the other day about your being careful, about folks coming into your 'home' I was referring to these thugs the Repugs have hired to go to some of the key states, FL of course, and intimidate people. You are correct that things are going to get ugly... they already are...

Please cover your back... always make sure a co- worker or friend is with you... our light and prayers go out to you... namaste

Posted by: Jo on October 28, 2004 12:13 AM

Pallas,

My recommendation is, if at all possible, don't engage the opponent; find a security guard or cop and let them do it for you. If there are none around, just move quietly away without provocation. I remind you that FL is the home (at least I thought) of Road Rage. There are people are looking for an excuse to hurt somebody and vent their rage.

Take care,
I envy you being out in the trenches where the action is!

Also, love & light to you

Posted by: Sharon on October 28, 2004 12:22 AM

Sharon K.,

Thank you for sharing your husband's friend's letter... I was particularly drawn to the following:

"President Bush claims that he supports Israel, yet he has withdrawn the U.S. from involvement is the one issue on which Israel’s future rests, an eventual peace with the Palestinians and peace in the Middle East."

Yes. My feelings exactly. Dropping the peace efforts... aborting all the work that had been done prior to this administration... criminal! In my opinion, dubya and Sharon are like two gunmen of the old west... The Israeli people do not support Sharon... the American people do not support *ush... we are all held hostage by this administration... which has exploited the issue of terrorism to make political gain...

Let's all light our white candles tonight, meditate and send light and prayers and good thoughts...

Old Granny,

Where are you? miss your comments on the nightly meditation, and in particular, your vision.

Namaste

Posted by: Jo on October 28, 2004 12:23 AM

***SILENCED Brutally...by BUSH 'Terrorists'

Silenced by the 'President'

By Trish Bowcock - October 16, 2004

A few weeks before my father died, he woke me in the wee hours of the
morning. He needed to talk. He was worried about Attorney General John Ashcroft and the destruction of American civil liberties. I comforted my father, believing he was delusional from medications. I was wrong. I write this from my home in Jacksonville Oregon (population 2,226). President George W. Bush came here this week. The purpose of his visit was political. Southern Oregon has been deemed a "battle ground" area in the presidential race. John Kerry has made incredible inroads in this traditionally Republican stronghold. President Bush's campaign stop was an attempt to staunch the slide.

Jacksonville is an old gold mining town. Our main street is only five blocks long, lined with restored storefronts. The sidewalks are narrow. We are a peaceful community. The prospect of an overnight presidential visit was exciting, even to me, a lifelong Democrat. My excitement turned to horror as I watched events unfold during President Bush's visit.

In the mid 1800s, when Indians invaded Jacksonville, citizens clambered upon the roof of the old library. It was the one building that would not catch fire when flaming arrows were shot. This week it was a different scene. Police armed with high powered rifles perched upon our rooftops as the presidential motorcade approached. Helicopters flew low, overhead. A cadre of motorcycle police zoomed into town. Black SUVs followed, sandwiching several black limousines carrying the president, his wife and their entourage as they sped to the local inn where they would eat and sleep.

The main street was lined with people gathered to witness the event. Many supported the pres ident. Many did not. Some came because they were simply curious. There were men, women, young and old. The mood was somewhat festive. Supporters of John Kerry sported signs, as did supporters of George Bush. Individuals, exercising their rights of free speech began chanting. On one side of the street, shouts of "four more years" echoed in the night air. On the other side of the street, chants of "three more weeks" responded. The chants were loud and apparently could be heard by President Bush. An order was issued that the anti-Bush rhetoric be quieted. The local SWAT team leapt to action.

It happened fast. Clad in full riot gear, at least 50 officers moved in.
Shouting indecipherable commands from a bullhorn, they formed a chain and bore down upon the people, only working to clear the side of the street appearing to be occupied by Kerry supporters. People tried to get out of their way. It was very crowded. There was nowhere to move.

People were being crushed. They started flowing into the streets. Pleas to the officers, asking, "where to go" fell upon deaf ears. Instead, riot police fired pellets of cayenne pepper spray into the crowd. An old man fell and couldn't get up. When a young man stopped to help, he was shot in the back with hard pepper spray balls. Children were hit with pepper spray. deemed "Protesters" people were shoved and herded down the street by the menacing line of armed riot police, until out of the President's ear-shot.

There the "Protesters" were held at bay. Anyone vocalizing anti-Bush or
pro-Kerry sentiments were prohibited from venturing forward. Loud anti-Bush chants were responded to by the commanding officer stating: "FORWARD," to which the entire line of armed police would move, lock-step, toward the "Protesters," forcing backward movement.

Police officers circulated filming the crowd of "Protesters." Some were
people like me, quiet middle-aged women. Some sported anti-Bush signs, peace signs, or Kerry signs. A small group of youth, clad in black with kerchiefs wrapping their heads chanted slogans. A young woman in her underwear, sporting a peace sign sang a lyrical Kumbaya. Mixed among the "Protesters" were supporters of the President. One 19 year- old man shouted obscenities at anyone expressing dissatisfaction with the president, encouraging the police to "tazar" the "Stinking Protesters." Neither the "Protestors," nor the police harassed this vocal young man. Across the street, individuals shouting support for the president were allowed to continue. Officers monitored this group but allowed them to
shout words of support or hurl derisions toward Kerry supporters, undisturbed.
Honking cars filled with Bush supporters were left alone. A honking car full of Kerry supporters was stopped by police on its way out of town. The standoff with "Protesters" continued until the President finished his dinner and was secured in his hotel cottage for the night. Only then were the riot police ordered to "mount-up," leaping upon the sideboard of a huge SUV, pulling out of town, and allowing "free speech" to resume.

In small town America I witnessed true repression and intimidation by law enforcement. I saw small children suffering from the effects of being fired upon by pepper bullets. I felt legitimate fear of expressing my political opinions: a brand new feeling. Newspaper accounts state the chaos started when a violent "Protester" shoved a police officer. No one I talked to witnessed this account.It is reputed that President Bush and his staff will not allow any opposition activity to occur within his ear or eye sight. I can confirm, that in tiny Jacksonville, Oregon, this was true. Physically violent means were taken to protect the president from verbal insults. Freedom of speech was stolen.

My father was not paranoid as he lay dying. He was expressing great insight into the dangers of our current presidential administration and its willingness to repress personal freedoms. If I could talk to my father today, I would say, "I am sorry Daddy for doubting you." And, no matter what, I will continue to exercise my individual right to freely express my opinions. Americans cannot take four more years.

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=2388

Posted by: wv on October 28, 2004 12:56 AM


Here's a poll on Aljazeera....

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/621DF37C-89C2-4389-ABC0-5A32E94E357B.htm

Posted by: wv on October 28, 2004 01:10 AM

Take a look at this.

http://www.salon.com/

Be gentle my heart.

Posted by: Pat C on October 28, 2004 01:20 AM


BEWARE Scalia-Thomas Clones...

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/102804A.shtml

Posted by: wv on October 28, 2004 01:57 AM

I like that young'un's perception and rationale. YES!! A November surprise... can you spell L_A_N_D_S_L_I_D_E? Say it three times! Click your heels! Landslide! Kerry/Edwards win... Dems take 4 Senate seats NET... shake up the house... come on Tuesday...!

Posted by: Jo on October 28, 2004 02:00 AM

PatC, I hope with all my heart the Salon article is on target.

Posted by: Janet on October 28, 2004 02:03 AM

Jo, as the saying goes, Bring-it-On.
Landslide, landslide, landslide!

Posted by: Janet on October 28, 2004 02:05 AM

[a cautionary tale]

DEATH OF A SENATOR:

A powerful senator dies after a prolonged illness. His soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Peter at the entrance.

"Welcome to Heaven," says St. Peter. "Before you settle in, it seems there is a problem. We seldom see a high official around these parts, you see, so we're not sure what to do with you."

"No problem, just let me in," says the guy.

"Well, I'd like to but I have orders from higher up. What we'll do is have you spend one day in Hell and one in Heaven. Then you can choose where to spend eternity."

"Really, I've made up my mind. I want to be in Heaven," says the senator.

"I'm sorry but we have our rules."

And with that, St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to Hell. The doors open and he finds himself in the middle of a green golf course. In the distance is a club and standing in front of it are all his friends and other politicians who had worked with him, everyone is very happy and in evening attire. They run to greet him, hug him, and reminisce about the good times they had while getting rich at the expense of the people. They play a friendly game of golf and then dine on lobster and caviar. Also present is the Devil, who really is a very friendly guy who has a good time dancing and telling jokes. They are having such a good time that, before he realizes it, it is time to go. Everyone gives him a big hug and waves while the elevator rises.

The elevator goes up, up, up and the door reopens on Heaven where St. Peter is waiting for him.

"Now it's time to visit Heaven."

So 24 hours pass with the head of state joining a group of contented souls moving from cloud to cloud, playing the harp and singing. They have a good time and, before he realizes it, the 24 hours have gone by and St. Peter returns.

"Well then, you've spent a day in Hell and another in Heaven. Now choose your eternity."

He reflects for a minute, then the senator answers, "Well, I would never have said it, I mean Heaven has been delightful, but I think I would be better off in Hell."

So St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to Hell. Now the doors of the elevator open and he is in the middle of a barren land covered with waste and garbage. He sees all his friends, dressed in rags, picking up the trash and putting it in black bags. The Devil comes over to him and lays his arm on his neck.

"I don't understand," stammers the senator. "Yesterday I was here and there was a golf course and club and we ate lobster and caviar and danced and had a great time. Now all there is, is a wasteland full of garbage and my friends look miserable.


The Devil looks at him, smiles and says,

"Yesterday we were campaigning...Today you voted for us!"


VOTE WISELY THIS COMING ELECTION!!

Posted by: mike on October 28, 2004 02:38 AM

Quick question. No money for a white candle. I do have two green votives. Okay, anyway?

Posted by: Carol on October 28, 2004 02:39 AM

Carol,
You burn the votives... any color...

Posted by: Jo on October 28, 2004 02:43 AM

Green is good!

Posted by: Pat C on October 28, 2004 02:45 AM

http://tinyurl.com/563uu

A Culture of Cover-Ups
By PAUL KRUGMAN

?ides to John Kerry say that if he wins, he'll replace Porter Goss as head of the C.I.A. Let's hope so: Mr. Goss has already confirmed the fears of those who worried about his appointment by placing Republican staff members from Capitol Hill in key positions and raising fears about a partisan purge.

But the flap over Mr. Goss is only a symptom of a much broader issue: whether the Bush administration will be able to maintain its culture of cover-ups. That culture affects every branch of policy, but it's strongest when it comes to the "war on terror."

Although President Bush's campaign is based almost entirely on his self-proclaimed leadership in that war, his officials have thrown a shroud of secrecy over any information that might let voters assess his performance.

Yesterday we got two peeks under that shroud. One was The Times's report about what the International Atomic Energy Agency calls "the greatest explosives bonanza in history." Ignoring the agency's warnings, administration officials failed to secure the weapons site, Al Qaqaa, in Iraq, allowing 377 tons of deadly high explosives to be looted, presumably by insurgents.

The administration is trying to play down the importance of this loss, arguing that because Iraq was awash in munitions, a few hundred more tons don't make much difference. But aside from their potential use in nuclear weapons - the reason they were under seal before the war - these particular explosives, unlike standard munitions, are exactly what a terrorist needs.

Informed sources quoted by the influential Nelson Report say explosives from Al Qaqaa are the "primary source" of the roadside and car bombs that have killed and wounded so many U.S. soldiers. And thanks to the huge amount looted - "in a highly organized operation using heavy equipment" - the insurgents and whoever else have access to the Qaqaa material have enough explosives for tens of thousands of future bombs.

If the administration had had its way, the public would never have heard anything about this. Administration officials have known about the looting of Al Qaqaa for at least six months, and probably much longer. But they didn't let the I.A.E.A. inspect the site after the war, and pressured the Iraqis not to inform the agency about the loss. They now say that they didn't want our enemies - that is, the people who stole the stuff - to know it was missing. The real reason, obviously, was that they wanted the news kept under wraps until after Nov. 2.

The story of the looted explosives has overshadowed another report that Bush officials tried to suppress - this one about how the Bush administration let Abu Musab al-Zarqawi get away. An article in yesterday's Wall Street Journal confirmed and expanded on an "NBC Nightly News" report from March that asserted that before the Iraq war, administration officials called off a planned attack that might have killed Mr. Zarqawi, the terrorist now blamed for much of the mayhem in that country, in his camp.

Citing "military officials," the original NBC report explained that the failure to go after Mr. Zarqawi was based on domestic politics: "the administration feared destroying the terrorist camp in Iraq" - a part of Iraq not controlled by Saddam Hussein - "could undermine its case for war against Saddam." The Journal doesn't comment on this explanation, but it does say that when NBC reported, correctly, that Mr. Zarqawi had been targeted before the war, administration officials denied it.

What other mistakes did the administration make? If partisan appointees like Mr. Goss continue to control the intelligence agencies, we may never know.

This isn't speculation: Mr. Goss is already involved in a new cover-up. Last week Robert Scheer of The Los Angeles Times revealed the existence of a devastating but suppressed report by the C.I.A.'s inspector general on 9/11 intelligence failures. Newsweek has now confirmed the gist of Mr. Scheer's column.

The report, the magazine says, "identifies a host of current and former officials who could be candidates for possible disciplinary procedures." But although the report was completed in June, Mr. Goss has refused to release it to Congress. "Everyone feels it will be better if this hits the fan after the election," an official told the magazine. Better for whom?

What really happened on 9/11, or in Iraq? Next week's election may determine whether we ever find out.

Posted by: Pat C on October 28, 2004 02:49 AM

Pagan Nov 2 Voting Spell
>The Pagan community has a voting spell ready for NOV. 2nd.
>It involves walking into a voting booth and pulling the lever while
>chanting:
>
>"Like father, like son.
>One term and you're done.
>As it was for forty-one so it is for forty-three.
>This is my will; so mote it be."

Posted by: Jill G on October 28, 2004 03:00 AM


Putin - Why not price oil in Euros?

http://www.rense.com/general58/opil.htm

Posted by: wv on October 28, 2004 03:09 AM

Well, wv, there it is.

Posted by: Pat C on October 28, 2004 03:18 AM

Well, I went downstairs to light my votives, and while doing so, I found a scrap of white candle in my candle holder. So I'm burning it instead!

http://d21c.com/aquariusmoon/MoreKerry.html

Posted by: Carol on October 28, 2004 03:35 AM

The Red sox are ahead...........it's full dark out there now................the eclipsing moon started as a huge peach colored ,"little hazy" ball behind the spruce trees. As the eclipse started, the moon was almost covered with a thin red fim, very dimensional........beautiful!!!!!
I have 3 candles from gratefulness.org burning on my desktop!
White light, Peace, and a great BIG win Tuesday!
Pat QOP

Posted by: Pat on October 28, 2004 04:33 AM

An interesting scenario. Don't know if anybody has posted this, and I am on my way to bed, so hope this is not redundant.
______________

If Electoral College Fails, House Decides
Wed Oct 27,10:27 AM ET

By JIM ABRAMS, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - One near-certainty in this election of many uncertainties is that if the Electoral College can't pick a winner, George W. Bush will stay in the White House. That's because the House of Representatives is and will probably remain in Republican hands.  

The 12th Amendment, adopted in 1804 after the House took seven days in 1801 to break a tie and make Thomas Jefferson president, states that when there's no electoral vote majority, the House elects the president and the Senate the vice president.

In the 200 years since, what are called contingent elections have happened only twice: in 1825, when the House chose John Quincy Adams over Andrew Jackson after an election fragmented by third-party candidates, and in 1837, when the Senate settled a disputed vice-presidential race.

The odds are still good that Bush or John Kerry will secure 270 electoral votes, out of 538 cast, when the House and Senate meet in joint session on Jan. 6, 2005, to officially tally the results.

But in the muddled 2000 election Bush edged Al Gore by 271-266, and there are several scenarios that could keep either candidate from reaching 270 this time.

If that happens, there's little question that the House would choose Bush. The newly elected House would do the voting, and the makeup of that body is not expected to change much from now. Republicans hold 227 of the 435 seats and, more importantly, have a majority in 30 state delegations.

The 12th Amendment specifies that each state gets one vote in a contingent election. Most assume that lawmakers will vote with their party, meaning that Florida, with Republicans currently holding 17 of 24 seats, and Ohio, with 12 of 18 seats held by Republicans, would probably go to Bush regardless of the popular vote.

"The pressures would simply be enormous to vote your party allegiance," said Rep. David Price, D-N.C., who has pushed for changes in the election system.

The prospects would be no brighter for Kerry if lawmakers were to vote in line with their states. In 2000, even though Gore captured more popular votes, Bush carried 30 states.

With Ralph Nader's support hovering around 1 percent, there's no chance this time of a third-party candidate preventing anyone from getting a majority.

But it is possible that the electors will split 269-269 when they meet in their states on Dec. 13 to register their votes. Also possible is a "faithless" elector confounding the process by either withholding a vote or voting for someone else.

Electoral College electors are loyalists chosen by their party and rarely — only eight times since 1948 — stray from the chosen candidate. But this time every vote counts, and already one West Virginia Republican elector has suggested he might not vote for Bush.

The biggest concern is a repeat of 2000 when the outcome hinged on the protracted legal battle over the winner in Florida. This time, both parties have thousands of lawyers watching for voter irregularities and ready to file legal challenges in states where the outcome may be in doubt.

The Congressional Research Service issued reports in January 2001 and again last September educating members on the intricacies of the electoral college system. The latest analysis pointed out the importance of a Colorado referendum that would divide the state's electors proportionally, depending on the vote count, rather than the winner-take-all system used by almost every state.

Lawsuits would be likely if proportional allocation appeared to reverse the nationwide results, the CRS said, "and might lead to a prolonged and bitter dispute, such as occurred following the 2000 election."

Price, hoping to avoid what could be multiple Florida-like situations, last month introduced legislation that would give states with contested elections an extra three weeks, until Jan. 3, to conduct recounts before state electors have to meet to certify results. But the bill isn't going anywhere this year even though disputes over such issues as new registrants and provisional ballots are waiting to happen.

"There's a higher level of suspicion and vigilance this time," Price said.

There's still one more scenario that can't be totally discounted. If Democrats pick up two Senate seats next Tuesday, they will regain control of the Senate when lawmakers convene on Jan. 6.

Without a clear Electoral College winner on that day, the country could end up with President Bush, re-elected by the House, being joined by a new Senate-picked vice president, John Edwards.
______________________

Semi-overcast here tonight. Did get to see the major part of the eclipse, although color was very dull. Afraid this one didn't compare to the one between 92-94 when I sat on my front porch in Southern Cal and watched the entire incredible process through my binocs. Ah well...there are times, and there are times.

Off to V V land.

See y'all.

Posted by: old granny on October 28, 2004 05:06 AM

One final note:

If you haven't already seen it, Eminem's "Mosh" is viewable on Michael Moore's site.

http://www.michaelmoore.com/

IMO...very powerful.

G'nite.

Posted by: old granny on October 28, 2004 05:32 AM


The Eclipse has been glorious here in Colorado, bright red turning to a rusty brown. People seemed to be in a foul mood today even while this wonderous celestial event was taking place. It's strange how eclipses and full moons affect us.

I grew up eating, breating, living baseball, it was woven into the entire fabric of my family. I've been a Cardinal fan for as long as I can remember. I loved the Cardinals and my brother loved the Dodgers and we fought forever over who had the best team. In spite of that, I rooted for the Boston Red Sox tonight and was thrilled to see them win on this eclipse. I think it's a good omen for Boston and for a Boston Senator from MA running for President.

Venus rules Mr. Kerry's Mid-heaven and this eclipse fell very close to his Natal Scorpio Venus and to John Edwards Natal Taurus Venus which rules his progressed Mid-heaven. It's almost as if the gods kissed the Red Sox and Kerry/Edwards tonight. I am holding that vision with the belief that Kerry/Edwards will sweep this election just as the Red Sox swept the World Series.

Posted by: Sally on October 28, 2004 06:52 AM

This was posted on the Kerry blog!

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/901952.cms

Even the stars favour Kerry

IANS[ THURSDAY, OCTOBER 28, 2004 11:00:39 AM ]

NEW DELHI: The planets favour US Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry and would push him to victory over President George W Bush in the November 2 polls, say Indian astrologers.

-more-

Posted by: Laurie on October 28, 2004 11:29 AM

I burned my candle and did an affirmation. Last night had a fleeting dream I can't recall about John F. Kennedy. Then, (this has happened twice now), before I awoke I dreamed I was in a shopping mall and some campaign workers were standing in front of a table looking at papers that held election results. John Kerry was standing behind the table, all I could see was his back. I realized that the election was being contested by him. The number 215 came up?? Then a sick feeling in my solar plexis when I realized that Bush was trying to steal the election. Every time I tried to call my sister and ask what was happening, I couldn't get through. This is 2nd of a very similar dream scenario.

I believe the Shrub is going to try to steal it again. I really do. That's why the bought and paid for media polls are showing such a close race - to set us up for the steal. "See, we told you the candidates were only a few points apart."

From what I've seen here in Conservative Dreamland (Virginia), there are a lot more people pushing for Kerry this election. And, I don't believe Kerry will do a Gore and roll over. There's gonna be a fiiiiight! Bring it on.

Patricia

Posted by: Patricia on October 28, 2004 01:38 PM

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2004_10/004995.php

RECESS APPOINTMENT?....Just when you thought the various post-election legal nightmare scenarios couldn't get worse. U.S. News & World Report is emailing around some reporting that indicates the Bush White House may be considering a recess appointment (requiring no Senate approval, remember) to replace Chief Justice Rehnquist if he steps down for health reasons: "Even though the U.S. Supreme Court has said Chief Justice William Rehnquist will return to the bench following cancer surgery, administration officials are quietly considering candidates to replace him and even the possibility of making a recess appointment. The officials said that they do not want to talk about the process publicly in the last week of the presidential campaign. However, one insider said that the West Wing is considering what would happen if the judge left the bench soon and if a close election next Tuesday meant an evenly split 4-4 court was to decide the winner. Such a situation would likely mean that a lower court's ruling on an outcome would be final and officials are worried that it would go against the President." Who says we're a banana republic?

"Recess appointments" do not a "banana republic" make (see United States Constitution). BTW: I thought your side was the one so upset by not enough CONTINGENCY PLANNING - like I've always said, damned if he does, damned if he doesn't . . . Posted by: Charlie on October 26, 2004 at 6:49 PM | PERMALINK

If Bush tried this after losing or winning in a squeaker there would be trouble in the streets. Posted by: Carl Nyberg on October 26, 2004 at 6:51 PM | PERMALINK

FWIW, a recess appointment would only last one year, and I think the other eight justices (including the so-called right wign ones) would be pretty put off by having a recess Chief Justice and would avoid granting cert. in important cases where the deciding vote would be a sitting duck. Although I am a dem throug and through, I agree with the poster that states that a recess apointment does not a banana republic make --- it's in the constitution after all. Posted by: Justice Scalia on October 26, 2004 at 6:54 PM | PERMALINK

Rehnquist would have voted to put Bush back in office anyway, so it doesn't make a damn bit of difference. If it goes to the Supreme Court, we're going to lose. It's as simple as that. They put him in four years ago and I see no reason for them to do any different now. We can whine about it all we want, but that's the reality of the situation. Kerry is going to need a decisive win. Period. Posted by: Carl on October 26, 2004 at 6:56 PM | PERMALINK

Not if the recess appointment elevated your Honor to Chief Justice (especially after the Dems make some big show about fillabuster / never allowing the government into the womb ; )

P.S. Carl - that would be one good reason to bring the troops home early. Posted by: Charlie on October 26, 2004 at 6:56 PM | PERMALINK

It's not the recess appt. that's the problem, JS, it's the REASON they're considering it. Put simply: if Rehnquist was one of the 4 that had dissented in Bush v. Gore, we wouldn't be having this conversation. The Bush White House would be more than happy to let the other 8 justices decide a disputed election this time around. Posted by: ryan_b on October 26, 2004 at 6:57 PM | PERMALINK

More...

Posted by: Pat C on October 28, 2004 02:34 PM

!!!!!!!!!

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/28/international/middleeast/28bomb.html?oref=login&pagewanted=print&position=

4 Iraqis Tell of Looting at Munitions Site in '03

BAGHDAD, Iraq, Oct. 27 - Looters stormed the weapons site at Al Qaqaa in the days after American troops swept through the area in early April 2003 on their way to Baghdad, gutting office buildings, carrying off munitions and even dismantling heavy machinery, three Iraqi witnesses and a regional security chief said Wednesday.

The Iraqis described an orgy of theft so extensive that enterprising residents rented their trucks to looters. But some looting was clearly indiscriminate, with people grabbing anything they could find and later heaving unwanted items off the trucks.

Two witnesses were employees of Al Qaqaa - one a chemical engineer and the other a mechanic - and the third was a former employee, a chemist, who had come back to retrieve his records, determined to keep them out of American hands. The mechanic, Ahmed Saleh Mezher, said employees asked the Americans to protect the site but were told this was not the soldiers' responsibility.

The accounts do not directly address the question of when 380 tons of powerful conventional explosives vanished from the site sometime after early March, the last time international inspectors checked the seals on the bunkers where the material was stored. It is possible that Iraqi forces removed some explosives before the invasion.

But the accounts make clear that what set off much if not all of the looting was the arrival and swift departure of American troops, who did not secure the site after inducing the Iraqi forces to abandon it.

"The looting started after the collapse of the regime," said Wathiq al-Dulaimi, a regional security chief, who was based nearby in Latifiya. But once it had begun, he said, the booty streamed toward Baghdad.

[...]

You all know what to do. Spam this far and wide!

Posted by: Pat C on October 28, 2004 03:06 PM

For what it's worth .. this from British Astrologer Steve Judd's website today:

The total eclipse of the Moon, due about five hours after writing this, looks innocuous and relatively healthy viewed from a London perspective. However, placed over Washington DC, it’s a very different story. At the moment of eclipse, Saturn is rising, less than a degree away from GW’s Saturn. The eclipsed full Moon is in the tenth house of leaders, the state and the nation. The “king” is going to “die”. Kerry will “win” the election, but whether he takes office is another matter (see earlier this week). Today also sees the second of the grand quintiles. Placed over the UK, it doesn’t look great. Placed over New York/Washington, it looks well dodgy, especially around 17.30 local time. Even with my normal flair for understatement, the next twenty four hours are likely to be highly significant in the US election race.

Posted by: Siobhan on October 28, 2004 03:22 PM


More dirty tricks in Ohio

http://news.independent.co.uk/low_res/story.jsp?story=576753&host=3&dir=70

Posted by: wv on October 28, 2004 03:24 PM


Hunter S Thompson at it again...

http://news.independent.co.uk/low_res/story.jsp?story=576704&host=3&dir=70

Posted by: wv on October 28, 2004 03:29 PM

I feel like the tide has turned. Kerry has done what he needs to do to take advantage of the planetary line-up. It is over. We are just waiting to see it.

Posted by: Pat C on October 28, 2004 03:46 PM


...another good one from Charley Reese...

http://www.lewrockwell.com/reese/reese129.html

Posted by: wv on October 28, 2004 03:51 PM

Pat C.,
I second your comments. Landslide coming... no need to worry about an EC problem or vote fraud with the machines... Repugs are sooooo desperate dubya is now appealing to DEMOCRATS to vote for him! Evidence enough the man is certifiable...

Now comes word from a Kossack with a nose for sniffing out old news:

HERE'S A SMOKING GUN!
Checkitout:
" Seven Nuclear Sites Looted "
Notice the date - May 10, 2003!!!
Incredibly bad planning, and PROOF the Bush administration KNEW ABOUT IT ALL.

Seven Nuclear Sites Looted
Iraqi Scientific Files, Some Containers Missing
By Barton Gellman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, May 10, 2003; Page A01

BAGHDAD -- Seven nuclear facilities in Iraq have been damaged or effectively destroyed by the looting that began in the first days of April, when U.S. ground forces thrust into Baghdad, according to U.S. investigators and others with detailed knowledge of their work. The Bush administration fears that technical documents, sensitive equipment and possibly radiation sources have been scattered.

by CodeTalker on Thu Oct 28th, 2004 at 14:07:21 GMT

More at link for original article
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A36985-2003May9?language=printer

---------------------

This is the deal... ALL the screw-ups of this administration in the War on Iraq have been covered in at least one article --- i.e., NYT, Guardian, Independent, etc. ---- but Americans like dubya, do not read the papers, esp. the big ones... including AJC... so they depend on Faux Noos and CNN to tell them how their prez is doing. Wonder why they approve of dubya's handling of the WOT? No you don't, you know it is part of the black ops... imho, when Kerry gets in the White House it will change the dynamics of the USA chart and the energy in the country and on the planet for that matter... similar to when an abused wife finally leaves her abusive husband and gets on with her life. All the negative energy she was previously dealing with disappears and the world is her oyster. Life will not be without challenge in 2005 but it will be manageable with Kerry at the helm.

Light to all

Posted by: Jo on October 28, 2004 04:22 PM

LUNACY LUNATICS LA LUNA PIENA.
holy cow. I have a Taurus ascendant
and I was as close to hysterical as i ever am. I am typically very calm and a little down. Last night, as that crazy moon went Dark, my husband landed in seattle after being away for 2 full months. We drove home with that moon in our faces, it went completely dark by the time we got home. In Seattle, full of too many lights and some smog too, the moon wasn't beautiful, just strange.
About an hour after the husband came home, I started to calm down, back to my old self. man that was strange.
and the red socks.
I care nothing about baseball, the last time I cared was in 1964 when I listened to the yankees win and i was a 13 year old with a miniature transistor radio.
THIS week I wore red socks almost every day. yesterday i wore red socks and red converse sneakers. The
symbolism of the redsocks from Boston winning really captivated me. If THEY can do it, Kerry can too!!!!

mimi

Posted by: mimi on October 28, 2004 04:23 PM

....and LIGHT to you Jo!

Enjoy this one.

http://a.parsons.edu/~voting_booth/

Posted by: Pat C on October 28, 2004 04:26 PM

Oh that's great Mimi! You wore red socks! That just makes my heart smile!

Posted by: Pat C on October 28, 2004 04:29 PM

You just gotta read this one! It gave me a big smile!

http://www.stariq.com/Main/Articles/P0005817.HTM

For the Week of October 28, 2004

Yesterday’s Lunar Eclipse intensifies an already polarized political atmosphere and exacerbates the divide between sides. It's a celestial event befitting the days leading up to this year's presidential election on Tuesday, when Americans will gather their collective power, cast their vision upon the screen of world destiny, and alter the tilt of Earth's axis. Our ancestors believed eclipses were interruptions in the normal rhythms of life, aberrations that portended extraordinary events, especially for kings who held the power of life and death. We know better now, (or at least we think we do) because our scientists can explain the physical reason for an eclipse. But for those of us interested in metaphysical meaning an eclipse event still packs a lot of power.

During a Lunar Eclipse conscious concerns overcome unconscious drives and the 3-D overrides the Dream Time. Of course, it's not really possible to stifle, squelch, hold back, deny, or suppress the unconscious for very long without experiencing a psychosis of some kind. And I'm sure you've noticed these last several weeks that you or someone you love is either breaking through or breaking down. The veils separating conscious and unconscious reality have grown increasingly transparent. This happens when the collective stands on a significant threshold and has to make important decisions. Not that Americans are the only contributors—let's be quite clear that we aren't. But we do carry a lot of weight and when we lean, there are consequences.

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Posted by: Pat C on October 28, 2004 04:48 PM

After looking at shots from the KSTP video, http://kstp.com/article/stories/S3723.html?cat=1 an Atrios commenter has shown http://www.haloscan.com/comments.php?user=atrios&comment=109897020719897445#1168493 that the explosives were RDX -- and RDX is one of the two types of high-tech explosives that made up the 380 tons that went missing.

Posted by: Pat C on October 28, 2004 04:57 PM

Here's an interesting excerpt I just read, from Michael Wolf-Star at Star IQ, about the "Curse of the Bambino:"

"When the Red Sox won game seven on October 20 transiting Jupiter was squaring the Curse's Sun-Pluto axis, bringing tremendous enthusiasm and a great opportunity to finally win the World Series. The Red Sox have made it to the World Series four times since 1918, and each time they lost in the seventh game. This year, the seventh game will be on October 31, but transiting Jupiter will be out of range.

The Curse chart features a Jupiter-Neptune conjunction that fosters a belief in superstition. By secondary progression, this Jupiter-Neptune is now exactly squared by progressed Mars (and activated by the transiting Sun on Halloween). Progressed Mars is further weakened by being retrograde. This combination suggests that in all likelihood Boston will once again find a dramatic way to lose."

Well, Michael, THEY DIDN'T!!! Michael Wolf-Star was WRONG about the Red Sox, and chances are, Mr. New Age Bushie will be wrong about the election, too.

Keep sending light to our country and to Kerry and Edwards and Mr. Clinton. WE CAN DO THIS! WE CAN WIN THIS THING!

Posted by: Gina on October 28, 2004 04:59 PM

WE CAN DO THIS! WE CAN WIN THIS THING!

And we WILL!

Posted by: Gina on October 28, 2004 05:01 PM

Consider it done Gina!

Here is another article on the munitions.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/102904Y.shtml

Posted by: Pat C on October 28, 2004 05:11 PM

Who was it that posted the psychic prediction that the Cardinals would be in the World Series, the Sox would win it, and Kerry would take the Presidency?

2 down, 1 to go!

Posted by: Sharon on October 28, 2004 05:40 PM

I think this is what we have to work on... to protect the GOTV... the Repugs are into and have been for sometime, suppressing the minority vote. Here's an article from Salon.com --- excerpt from Julian Bond:

"Do you expect the tactics to be any heavier-handed this year than in the past?

Oh, yeah. I think it will be worse than in 2000. For one thing, in 2000 you did not have the law-enforcement apparatus of the government engaged on one side of the contest, as you do now. Attorney General [John] Ashcroft has instituted this so-called ballot integrity program. Yes, despite appeals to him to issue statements saying we're interested in protecting the voters' right to cast their votes, he's focused entirely on suspicions and allegations of fraud. I don't think anyone thinks that fraud is a widespread problem in the American electoral system. Instead, he's instructed his attorneys general across the United States to be on the alert for fraud, rather than be on the alert for people who are likely to stymie voters and keep them from casting their votes. The two parties are much more aware, taking a lesson from 2000, that every vote counts, and the Democrats take the lesson to mean we need to get all our people to the polls, while the Republicans take the lesson to mean we have to keep as many people as we can away."

More at http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/10/28/julian_bond/

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Remember dubya's comment about how much easier it (governing) would be if this (USA) were a dictatorship? Well, the Repugs don't like the masses... and they certainly don't like us voting... mucks up their agenda... SO, GOTV... and PROTECT IT...

Go Gina, Go Gina... you've got it... landslide coming...

Posted by: Jo on October 28, 2004 05:51 PM

http://www.americanprogressaction.org/site/pp.asp?c=klLWJcP7H&b=100480

Some good stuff here.

Posted by: Pat C on October 28, 2004 06:13 PM

I can't post it easily from where I am right now, but read Maureen Dowd's column today portraying Cheney as Cheneystein (he's fantasized a monster who is now real!). You'll find it at www.nytimes.com, but you'll have to register to read the columnists. It's intently funny, frightening & tragic, just like life these days.

Posted by: Sharon Katz on October 28, 2004 07:11 PM

Here you go Sharon. Dowd: White House of Horrors

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/28/opinion/28dowd.html?hp

Posted by: Jo on October 28, 2004 07:16 PM

New issue of The Black Commentator is out. Awesome. Scary. cover is map of USA in grey/black to indicate "Black Vote Smothered" and cartoon is well, you have to see it... scarier than scarier. There are a number of Black people better qualified than Clarence Thomas. But just think of the message this sends at this point in time: "Bush appointed ....." well, go look...

http://blackcommentator.com/

Posted by: Jo on October 28, 2004 07:20 PM

Yasa Arafat is reported to have blood cancer. There's some coverage on msnbc which also gives a list of possible succesors.

Posted by: Sharon Katz on October 28, 2004 07:38 PM

I swan I believe Mickey Mouse could get elected to the White House [well, duh, Goofy did get control!] once he had stolen it the first time... once you're in, you only need a small % to honestly vote for you... and you can get the rest yourself with the FBI, the CIA, the media, the local police (who now abide under 'Homeland' security), SWAT teams and the SS (Secret Service) and the hardware --- F16s, SAMs, etc. that protect the resident everywhere he goes... and the corporations who build the touchscreens and software that skews the vote and screws the people... not to mention paid for contractors who are dispersed to precincts all across the swing states to intimidate voters... IF YOU DON'T PROTECT THE VOTE... IF YOU CLOSE YOUR EYES TO THEIR MISCHIEF...

Go Eminem... go young people... go seniors... go white... go black... go brown... go Kerry... go Edwards... take back the HOUSE... take back our country... BIG TIME... Landslide...

Ya hear that sound Rove? Kinda faint now... wait 'til Tuesday... that sound of feet moving to the polls will be deafening... you'll have to get out of Dodge. We're coming for you and all your minions. There are other 'legs' moving - the ones on the story about how your guy failed to protect the munitions stash... how it has been and is being used to kill our troops and innocent Iraqis... rightwing websites are suddenly quiet, their feet stopping short of the polls? While our guy is shooting this administration's ineptness with The Boss by his side... Big Dawg on the trail. Venus moves into Libra tomorrow... joining tJupiter and tMars... eclipse moving many to consciousness... waking to find der fuhrer is 'der fuhrer'? Now, that's motivation to get to the polls!

Remember, the light shines brightest in the dark.

Posted by: Jo on October 28, 2004 08:13 PM

well...I am back...wanted to say that I sent the story of the Jacksonville, Oregon presidential (and ensuing riot, all of which reminded me of the days in LA when the LA county sheriff loosed is new sheriff' recruits on a crowd of us on Sunset Blvd....the Sunset Strip Riots!) story to a friend in Seattle....and he sent this back:


http://www.dailytidings.com/2004/1016/101604n2.shtml A former colleague of mine said that the Oregon Story was not true / A bunch of lies! So I shipped him this article. Funny I have not heard a word back? AC

And all the rightwingnuts are sending emails again about John Kerry's factories in Asia! 32 Factories...etc....as dumb as a bag of hammers, I believe the phrase goes.....

Posted by: judi gemini on October 28, 2004 08:32 PM

Comments on the eclipse...I watched the shadow of the earth move across the face of the moon....quite amazing. One can imagine how people without knowledge of the physical universe would be frightened. I also remembered that the last total eclipse of the moon was May 16, 2003, which was my mother's 94th birthday...and she was eclipsed 2 days later when her 2nd greatgrandchild was born on May 18. Then her sister collapsed in July, dying in Dec; her brother died in Jan 04 and she developed pneumonia for the 3rd time and went into the rest home. She has pneumonia again as of several days ago, plus a massive hiatal hernia.

This eclipse was on my Asc ( 0 Scorpio)....

Posted by: judi gemini on October 28, 2004 08:42 PM

Pallas,

Did the Shrub really do this? Have you heard any thing about it?

"Last weekend the Rove studio showed its desperation. In Florida Mr. Bush risked ridicule by re-enacting "Mission Accomplished," this time landing by helicopter in sports stadiums to the theme from "Top Gun," the same movie that had inspired the stunt landing on the carrier U.S.S. Abraham Lincoln. (The new banner read "Soaring to Victory.") This had been directly preceded by another cinematic misfire. On the same day that the president took to attacking Mr. Kerry for seeing the war on terror as "a metaphor," his own campaign released with great fanfare a new TV ad portraying terrorism as ... a metaphor."

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/31/arts/31rich.html?oref=login&8hpib=&pagewanted=print&position

Posted by: Jo on October 28, 2004 10:24 PM

More photos to make your 'heart smile' as Pat C. would say --- this time Kerry and de Boss:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/10/28/162955/25

Don't you love it? Can you feel the joy? Look at alllllllll those people! Are we gonna win? say landslide three times, click your heels, Dorothy!

Posted by: Jo on October 28, 2004 11:08 PM

I heard 2 back to back radio newscasts that they estimated 80,000 people showed up to see Kerry and Da Boss....Madison, WI rocked!

Posted by: judi gemini on October 28, 2004 11:37 PM

Jo, It really pisses me off when the conventional media like the NYTimes, which should at least take a more substantive position, repeats all the stuff about "not wanting to have a beer with Kerry" ..... or even a "pinot noir"....excuse me, GWB couldn't pronounce pinot noir, I am sure....the fact that they stoop so low to repeat the canards tells me they are just hacks writing this stuff....but on the other hand, support is support...sort of. As for whether or not that helicopter stunt happened....don't know. Probably did...Rove reuses all his stuff over and over. Did Joseph Goebbles die BEFORE Rove was born?

Posted by: judi gemini on October 28, 2004 11:45 PM

Yeah, Judi, I agree about repeating the canard... and yes, one wonders if Rove might be Goebbles reincarnated... Rove's mentor was Lee Atwater, a Goebbels clone... from South Carolina, btw...

Here's an article from Salon describing the rally today... good read:

"I believe in the promised land"
Bruce Springsteen takes the moment into his hands -- and joins John Kerry for a massive Wisconsin rally.

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By Tim Grieve
Oct. 28, 2004 | MADISON, Wis. --

The presidential campaign comes rushing toward you in a million shrill words, a noisy, cross-country game of tit-for-tat played through TV feeds and the sharp remarks of a hundred sniping surrogates. It's loud and it's relentless, or at least it was until Bruce Springsteen stepped onto a small stage here Thursday afternoon.

With 80,000 people and the future of the nation in front of him, Springsteen played a wistful, acoustic version of "The Promised Land" then quietly offered the most eloquent stump speech of this long presidential race. "I've been writing about America for 30 years," he said. "I've tried to write about who we are, what we stand for, what we fight for. I believe that these essential ideals of American identity are what's at stake on Nov. 2."

Springsteen talked about the choice facing America on the recent "Vote for Change" tour benefiting America Coming Together, but this time he delivered his remarks with much more of the world watching. Hundreds of journalists from around the globe hung on Springsteen's every word. And with people jammed through the streets leading to Wisconsin's State Capitol, the city of Madison literally stood still to listen.

Springsteen ticked off a long list of the things that matter: economic justice, a living wage, a "sane and responsible foreign policy," civil rights, and "the protection and safeguarding of our precious democracy here at home." He said: "I believe that John Kerry honors these ideals. He has lived our history over the past 60 years, and he has formed an adult view of America and its people. "

Quietly strumming his guitar as he spoke, Springsteen said Kerry understands that people are not infallible, that struggle and heartbreak are an inevitable part of the human experience. "That's why we need each other," he said. "That's why 'United We Stand' ... and 'one nation indivisible' aren't just slogans. They need to remain the guiding principles of our public life."

Springsteen called on the country to face "America's hard truths, both the good and the bad." "That's where we find a deeper patriotism, that's where we find a more complete view of who we are. That's where we find a more authentic experience as citizens, and that's where we find the power ... to make our world a better and a safer place."

As the huge crowd grew quiet, Springsteen quoted the late Sen. Paul Wellstone -- "The future is for the passionate" -- and he said the time to act is now. "That's why I'm here today to stand alongside Senator Kerry and to tell you that the country we carry in our hearts is waiting." When he was done, Springsteen reached for his guitar and leaned into "No Surrender," the song that opens every Kerry campaign rally. As autumn leaves fell around him, Springsteen reinvented the song. The anthemic rock 'n' roll song became a meditation on promises made and hopes held tight, and he dedicated it to John Kerry.

The largest crowd -- ever, for anything -- in Madison's history exploded in applause. When Kerry took the stage a few minutes later, he fed on the energy. While he'll never match Springsteen's poetry, Kerry's Madison speech was strong and sharp and carried all the passion that Paul Wellstone or Bruce Springsteen could have asked of him. He hit Bush hard for ignoring reality in Iraq, for putting American troops at risk, for turning his back on the middle class in favor of the big corporations that support him. Somewhere in there, the usually humor-challenged Kerry got off a good line that underscored the cultural divide -- and so much else -- between the candidates: When Bush heard that "The Boss" was performing in Madison, Kerry said, "he thought we meant Dick Cheney."

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/10/28/kerry_springsteen/print.html

Posted by: Jo on October 29, 2004 12:02 AM

Jo, thanks for that Salon article....what a contrast between the NYTimes blaze tired cliche hack work and the Salon article....I feel better now. Almost....looks like I'm also getting a cold.

Posted by: judi gemini on October 29, 2004 12:17 AM

Jo...that should have been 'blase`" not 'blaze"

Posted by: judi gemini on October 29, 2004 12:18 AM

Well as I watched the video from KSTP, I wondered whether the IAEA seals were perhaps visible anywhere, to help silence the "they were at the wrong place" argument.

Well.............Daily Kos update on missing explosives at AlQaaqa...the video captures the seal on the door!!!

http://kstp.com/article/stories/S3741.html?cat=1


more....

Posted by: KM on October 29, 2004 12:26 AM

I will add that I saw something in the video that looked similar to the seals, but with limited resolution, etc. couldn't be sure. So this really made my day. Let's see them weasel out of this!

Posted by: KM on October 29, 2004 12:28 AM

Oh my gosh! Those photos are just wonderful!!!! Oh man! What a tonic for my heart.

Posted by: Pat C on October 29, 2004 01:03 AM

Sharon Katz,

Your signs and wires were received at Kerry HQ in
Delray Beach and I have them in my possession.
Tomorrow, John Kerry is coming back to West Palm Beach and I'll be volunteering. After the Kerry Rally I'll call the two Spanish men who help me in my night-time sorties putting up signs, and away we'll go. I can't express enough my thanks for your passion and the expense you went to.

If you and your husband are coming, a friend of mine and her husband, close by, will put you up - and we'll have some time to chat, meet...you can do phone work, drive around with me putting out flyers and signs, or go with J Outreach canvassing
neighborhoods.

there's plenty to do if you want to come...and if
you can't, we'll all still know you have done so much!

Post here or under the new subject by Robert and I'll look for your post, tomorrow afternoon as to what you are doing and we can figure out how to meet up.

We have Fri, Sat, Sun, Mon yet. It looks like Kerry, Kerry, Kerry in Florida - overwhelmingly -
and I agree wholeheartedly with what Sally has written above about the eclipses but I believe I have written here before the same thing as Sioban has above.

A Kerry win, but does he take office? If he doesn't Edwards could....after a confrontation with the "powers".

The bushistas have gotten very very aggressive at the polling/voting places. Believe it or not they are proselytizing to the Kerry campaigners.

I told them let's agree to disagree, you want Bush and I want Kerry to win....and not discuss it any further.

Then a republican EVANGELIST lawyer came out, and
quietly started a conversation with me. He wanted to know didn't I love Israel?, Did I know that Sharpton killed Jews, Isn't the world better off without Saddam, ....My answers (and lecture) to him is too long to go into, but the man left after we shook hands, and I said it was nice to have an intellectual quiet conversation with one of them, to which he agreed. He walked away looking rather non-plussed and quietly shocked at the things I told him, including how many Jews were left in the world, the history of FDR and Prescott Bush - Thiessen Steel and Auschwitz, Falwell and the Armageddon plan for Jews, and that I am an American who sees that Bush is destroying the Constitution of the United States .....BTW, I told him I like Sharpton and Jesse Jackson...

I'm not sure if he knew what hit him, whether he was in shock, or just surprised at the things I knew and spoke of...but his efforts to convert me to Bushista certainly failed.. :)
(big grin).

It certainly has not been and will not be a dull
election. The worst it looks for the dummy, the worst the behavior on the part of his followers.

I have no doubt they will try many ways to steal this election too....people are not fooled by the fact that they have to wait three hours in the hot sun to vote - because Theresa LePore has not put out enough machines. They know it is a ploy to discourage voters!

By the way, Governor Dukakis' son is even down here in Delray HQ helping out.

It'll be amazing to see who turns up next!!!

You can not know what a busy bee hive that office is - when you walk in you see 40 men and women on phones...others doing other things...graphs, charts, signs on the walls....

And P.S. - poor Ed Koch was here yesterday. When he didn't like a question from the audience he told them to shut up...many people got up and walked out...one fellow was asking questions and a republican tackled him to shut him up...I was told by reporters that the tackler was handcuffed and taken away ----pretty disgraceful. Someone said they wished the repugnants would send Koch out more, it could only be good for the dems. :)

Did you say there was a Full Moon out there?

Posted by: Pallas18 on October 29, 2004 05:32 AM

Jo,

yes the shrub really did that....although it didn't make a big splash here....just a 5 second newsclip.

They're really living in a fantasy land, imagining that it will impress a second time, or that everyone would be as impressed with Rove's showing off the resident's toys as they all are.

Posted by: Pallas18 on October 29, 2004 05:46 AM

Nice to hear the appreciative words for Madison my hme town and where Iam now. Missed kerry however but I could hear the roar of the crowd from where I was at the time.

Heard where Kerry was told sometine last year that he had about as much chance of winning the presidency as of the Boston Redsox winning the world series.

Or it ws something like you wont be president till Boston wins the "series"

ah yes the river Charles "how I love that dirty water Boston thats my town, Boston thats my town".

Iwonder if the chart for Boston shows that they would have the superbowl champion win the world series and have the senator that represents then be3elcted president all in the same year.

Its possible after all the fifth house rules both poltics and sports.

I hope I can get this link right found this on the commentary section of http://astrodatabank.com
where I also made a couple of brief comments today.

Apparently some of the most famous mundane astrologers all agree that Kerry will win and that bush cannot win.

This is reassureing as these guys are in a category when it comes to prediction that western astrolgers can only dream about.

http://www.newindpress.com/news.asp?id=iel20041028001822

Posted by: Chas on October 29, 2004 09:02 AM

Chas, this is the url for the Kerry discussion at Astroworld where you talk about inauguration charts...is this what you were talking about? http://astrodatabank.com/NM/Feedback.asp?ChartID=39776

Posted by: judi gemini on October 29, 2004 06:51 PM

Chas, Judi, thanks for the url. Interesting discussion.

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