Well Morgana, this was so well worth waiting for. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. You put me in mind of an old and I do mean old poem I once wrote, "like a cool hand on a hot summer wind."

this was the last post on Nancy's excellent offering. You guys are right we are lucky to have such good astrologers. Anyway the Patriot Act was signed by Bush on Oct. 26, 2001
10:37am.

morgana, simply wonderful! thank you.

Teresa is wonderful! Smart, sassy, sensual, empathic, beautiful, and a delight!

What I admire about her is that she's doing this campaigning at all, and that she's doing it with gusto. A woman in her station could have bought her own island in paradise, said good-bye to the little people of the world, and spent the rest of her days sipping rum drinks festooned with little umbrellas.

But instead, she's riding the bus through middle America, talking to the crowd, giving it back to the hecklers ("Four more years...of hell!" retorts Mama T), listening and talking with the salt of the earth, while grabbing a Wendy's frostie on the the road. I love it!

shylurker, this one's for you. this will absolutely blow everybody's mind. it's a letter from sibel d. edmunds, former translator for the fbi, to gov. kean of the 911 commission. she rips the veil from the ugly edifice of our public brainwashing. ms. edmunds is a naturalized citizen who has shown more patriotism than any one could ever ask. she also violated a federal 'gag order' in order to do this. what courage!!!!

http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0408/S00012.htm

This article is a BRILLIANT summation of what
needs to be done in the middle-east...

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20040803/COMINTZ03/TPComment/TopStories

Mike,
Thanks so much for the link to Sibel Edmonds letter... why indeed were these various questions not asked, these cited instances not covered in the Commission's investigation? She shows the following cc:'s

CC: Senate Judiciary Committee
CC: Senate Intelligence Committee
CC: House Government Reform Committee
CC: Family Steering Committee
CC: Press

What you want to bet we won't see this letter in the USA press? And why IS that? I am sick to my stomach with the press and the government in this country...

Namaste

Ahhhh! Morgana music wafting through the morning air of an otherwise jagged high alert day.

We are so fortunate here on Astroworld.

Morgana, you will appreciate these collections I offer here this morning.

http://www.cjr.org/tools/owners/

http://rittenhouse.blogspot.com/2004/07/tim-russert-is-incompetent-idiot-just.html

TIM RUSSERT IS AN INCOMPETENT IDIOT
Just One Example of Russert’s Incessant Stupidity: Get This

Just as the NBC television network this evening ended its Thursday-night coverage of the Democratic National Convention, Tim Russert, who has here or there earned a totally unwarranted reputation as “an expert,” “a tough guy,” or “someone to be feared” –- unless, or course, you’re a Republican, if which, case, well, the show’s all yours because you or somebody like you or somebody who likes you, somebody like the General Electric Co., or the Halliburton Co., or the Archer-Daniels-Midland Co., probably paid for the whole damned thing anyway –- though, getting back to [And not on!] Russert, the big-media guy who, in a more decent and honorable world, would still be writing wire copy, or maybe a blog that ranked somewhere below 500 on Blogstreet.com, had this stupidity to say tonight (I’m paraphrasing slightly): “As we head forward I expect you’ll see all the Bush children campaigning.”

Oh, so, Tim? You really-big-shot-kind-of-NBC-well-past-its-glory-days-kind-of-fake-fair- coverage, you. Who, exactly?

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/issue/040809/whispers/9whisplead.htm

Dems' new deal? Bully for better news stories

Reporters, beware: The Democratic Party is revamping its lovey-dovey approach and telling campaign press secretaries to come down like a ton of bricks if you screw up or slip in a little attitude. "When it comes to the media," suggests Democratic strategist James Carville, "intimidation works." He offers a tactic: "Send E-mails to the press. They do respond to pressure." That message was part of the training new campaign press secretaries were given in Boston last week during the party's convention. Hate a story? Either bully the reporter and cow the newsie into tossing you a bone, or hit hard and scare him into changing his tone and coverage. "Challenge them," encouraged David Brock of the new liberal Media Matters outfit, formed to police the press--especially the conservative media. A communications handbook from Democrats offers a softer approach. "If the error is minor," it says, "don't make a big deal out of it and don't demand a correction. The reporter is only human and will probably feel bad and apologize and perhaps feel as though he or she owes you one."

....and finally this. Ms Edmonds had to ignore a gag order to write this.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0408/S00012.htm

Open Letter To Thomas Kean – Chairman Of The 9/11 Commission - From FBI Whistleblower Sibel Edmonds

August 1, 2004

Thomas Kean, Chairman
National Committee on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States
301 7th Street, SW
Room 5125
Washington, DC 20407

Dear Chairman Kean:

It has been almost three years since the terrorist attacks on September 11; during which time we, the people, have been placed under a constant threat of terror and asked to exercise vigilance in our daily lives. Your commission, the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks upon the United States, was created by law to investigate “facts and circumstances related to the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001” and to “provide recommendations to safeguard against future acts of terrorism”, and has now issued its “9/11 Commission Report”. You are now asking us to pledge our support for this report, its recommendations, and implementation of these recommendations, with our trust and backing, our tax money, our security, and our lives. Unfortunately, I find your report seriously flawed in its failure to address serious intelligence issues that I am aware of, which have been confirmed, and which as a witness to the commission, I made you aware of. Thus, I must assume that other serious issues that I am not aware of were in the same manner omitted from your report. These omissions cast doubt on the validity of your report and therefore on its conclusions and recommendations. Considering what is at stake, our national security, we are entitled to demand answers to unanswered questions, and to ask for clarification of issues that were ignored and/or omitted from the report. I, Sibel Edmonds, a concerned American Citizen, a former FBI translator, a whistleblower, a witness for a United States Congressional investigation, a witness and a plaintiff for the Department of Justice Inspector General investigation, and a witness for your own 9/11 Commission investigation, request your answers to, and your public acknowledgement of, the following questions and issues:

After the terrorist attacks of September 11 we, the translators at the FBI’s largest and most important translation unit, were told to slow down, even stop, translation of critical information related to terrorist activities so that the FBI could present the United States Congress with a record of ‘extensive backlog of untranslated documents’, and justify its request for budget and staff increases. While FBI agents from various field offices were desperately seeking leads and suspects, and completely depending on FBI HQ and its language units to provide them with needed translated information, hundreds of translators were being told by their administrative supervisors not to translate and to let the work pile up ( please refer to the CBS-60 Minutes transcript dated October 2002, and provided to your investigators in January-February 2004). This issue has been confirmed by the Senate Judiciary Committee ( Please refer to Senator Grassley and Senator Leahy’s letters during the summer of 2002, provided to your investigators in January-February 2004).

More, more, more here....

Iraq Imploding
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0802-01.htm

It's a blue moon. The latest terra warning has been exposed as based on old data (so was the rationale for invading Iraq). Sibel Edmonds has now put her life on the line by naming names and identifying barriers (thanks, Mike & Guido). The Democrats have sprung to life. And Morgana tops it all off with this wonderful article. If we survive the interim, we'll make it to the WH and Senate (at least) in November. Forward!

...and this from Krugman

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/03/opinion/03krug.html

Reading the Script

A message to my fellow journalists: check out media watch sites like campaigndesk.org, mediamatters.org and dailyhowler.com. It's good to see ourselves as others see us. I've been finding The Daily Howler's concept of a media "script," a story line that shapes coverage, often in the teeth of the evidence, particularly helpful in understanding cable news.

For example, last summer, when growth briefly broke into a gallop, cable news decided that the economy was booming. The gallop soon slowed to a trot, and then to a walk. But judging from the mail I recently got after writing about the slowing economy, the script never changed; many readers angrily insisted that my numbers disagreed with everything they had seen on TV.

If you really want to see cable news scripts in action, look at the coverage of the Democratic convention.

Commercial broadcast TV covered only one hour a night. We'll see whether the Republicans get equal treatment. C-Span, on the other hand, provided comprehensive, commentary-free coverage. But many people watched the convention on cable news channels - and what they saw was shaped by a script portraying Democrats as angry Bush-haters who disdain the military.

If that sounds like a script written by the Republicans, it is. As the movie "Outfoxed" makes clear, Fox News is for all practical purposes a G.O.P. propaganda agency. A now-famous poll showed that Fox viewers were more likely than those who get their news elsewhere to believe that evidence of Saddam-Qaeda links has been found, that W.M.D. had been located and that most of the world supported the Iraq war.

More....

cnn wants to know if you think Dr. Dean's comments about security alerts being used for political purposes is correct. "Yes" is holding at 51%. GO vote.

Morgana and Sally. Exceptional recent articles. Both of you are viewing this current situation with open eyes. (another reason i love this site)

Ms. Edmonds letter is one for the history books but one that will be buried as quickly as possible -- as most of our history has.

Sally, you have wondered (in several articles) whether either Bush or Kerry will be "elected" come November.

An article that you may find interesting (by Al Martin)is available only through subscription. Here's a brief of what he says. Should anyone want the full story please email me and i'll forward it to you.

(quote)
Canceling US Elections: It's Easier Than You Think; Market Update by Al
Martin

(July 19) The biggest story of the past week has been regarding the
possible postponement or cancellation of the US presidential election. This
is actually much more sinister than the White House is making it appear.
According to the release by the White House and the US Election
Assistance Commission, the White House is supposedly just asking the
Election Assistance Commission to work with the Attorney General and
establish a legal mechanism, wherein George Bush could change all 50 state
constitutions, as well as county and municipal election laws in one fell
swoop -- in the event it became necessary to postpone the elections. The
sinister part is that Bush, in the post-Patriot I environment, already has
(as we've said a hundred times before), the legal authority to postpone or
actually temporarily cancel the elections. These are two different legal
mechanisms.
They're trying to make it sound as innocuous as possible by saying we
doubt this would happen. I heard Bush say this again that we want to have
this contingency in place. And then all the Republicans repeat - it's smart
to have this contingency in place.
Bush already has that power under Patriot I with the expansion of his
authority under the War Powers Act of 1947, since, it should be remembered,
a declared state of national emergency already exists in the United States
at present.
The only reason Bush would need the underlying state constitutions and
county and municipal election laws to be changed is if he intended to invoke
his authority to permanently cancel elections.
(end quote)

karen

Shylurker...what section of CNN I can't find the poll<

Our local newspaper (San Jose Mercury News) ran on this mornings front page that the Terraist alert was based on three year old data.

Otherwise known as HYPE and fear mongering...jerks

Great article Morgana! I love dailykos's name for Tim Russert - pumpkinhead! I know that's mean but it makes me chuckle.

Oh my! From the New England Journal of Medicine: Doctors and Torture

http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/351/5/415

Front page and center

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5581230/

They did it again.

Sorry this is long but I'm not sure how available the article still is. NYT put this out on the 29th. Hopefully, wheels are turning.....

Whistle-Blowing Said to Be Factor in F.B.I. Firing
By ERIC LICHTBLAU
July 29, 2004
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/29/politics/29fbi.final.html?hp

WASHINGTON, July 28 - A classified Justice department investigation has concluded that a former F.B.I. translator at the center of a growing controversy was dismissed in part because she accused the bureau of ineptitude, and it found that the F.B.I. did not aggressively investigate her claims of espionage against a co-worker.

The Justice Department's inspector general concluded that the allegations by the translator, Sibel Edmonds, "were at least a contributing factor in why the F.B.I. terminated her services," and the F.B.I. is considering disciplinary action against some employees as a
result, Robert S. Mueller III, director of the bureau, said in a letter last week to lawmakers. A copy of the letter was obtained by The New
York Times.

Ms. Edmonds worked as a contract linguist for the F.B.I. for about six months, translating material in Turkish, Persian and Azerbaijani. She
was dismissed in 2002 after she complained repeatedly that bureau linguists had produced slipshod and incomplete translations of important
terrorism intelligence before and after the Sept. 11 attacks. She also accused a fellow Turkish linguist in the bureau's Washington field
office of blocking the translation of material involving acquaintances who had come under F.B.I. suspicion and said the bureau had allowed
diplomatic sensitivities with other nations to impede the translation of important terrorism intelligence.

The Edmonds case has proved to be a growing concern to the F.B.I. because it touches on three potential vulnerabilities for the bureau:
its ability to translate sensitive counterterrorism material, its treatment of internal "whistle-blowers," and its classification of sensitive material that critics say could be embarrassing to the bureau.

The Justice Department has imposed an unusually broad veil of secrecy on the Edmonds case, declaring details of her case to be a matter of "state secrets." The department has blocked her from testifying in a lawsuit brought by families of Sept. 11 victims, it has retroactively classified briefings Congressional officials were given in 2002, and it has
classified the inspector general's entire report on its investigation into her case. As a result, groups promoting government openness have
accused the Justice Department of abusing the federal procedures in place for classifying sensitive material.

Mr. Mueller's letter, sent July 21 to leading members of the Senate Judiciary Committee, offered a rare glimpse inside the F.B.I.'s thinking on the case, and its content surprised some congressional officials.

Given the tight secrecy surrounding the case, "one could argue that Mueller himself disclosed classified material" by quoting from a
still-secret Justice Department report, said one congressional official who spoke on condition of anonymity.

In his letter, Mr. Mueller said he was pleased that the office of the inspector general "had not concluded that the F.B.I. retaliated against
Ms. Edmonds when it terminated her services on April 2, 2002." At the same time, he said, "I was concerned by the O.I.G.'s conclusion that Ms.
Edmonds' allegations 'were at least a contributing factor in why the F.B.I. terminated her services.' "

He said the F.B.I. would work with the inspector general to determine whether any employees should be disciplined as a result. And he emphasized that he wanted to encourage all F.B.I. employees to "raise good faith concerns about mismanagement or misconduct" without fear of reprisals or intimidation.

The letter did not say what other factors, if any, beyond Ms. Edmonds's accusations may have played a part in the decision to dismiss her. In
the past, federal officials have suggested that her allegations had nothing to do with her dismissal, pointing instead to what they
described as her "disruptive" presence in the field office.

The inspector general "also criticized the F.B.I.'s failure to adequately pursue Ms. Edmonds's allegations of espionage as they related
to one of her colleagues," Mr. Mueller said in his letter.

In that case, Ms. Edmonds accused a fellow Turkish linguist at the F.B.I. of failing to disclose her previous contacts with members of an
overseas group who became the subject of an intelligence investigation and of blocking the translation of material as "not pertinent."
Mr. Mueller said that the F.B.I.'s prior review of the case did not corroborate Ms. Edmonds's allegations. Nor was anyone charged as a
result of the espionage investigation.
But Mr. Mueller said that given the inspector general's concerns that the case was not adequately investigated, the F.B.I. plans to revisit the case and "conduct additional investigation as appropriate."

Officials at the F.B.I. and the inspector general's office declined comment on the Edmonds case Wednesday, saying the review remains
classified.

An official with knowledge of the report who spoke on condition of anonymity said investigators confirmed some of Ms. Edmonds's allegations about translation problems to be true, but could not corroborate others
because of a lack of evidence. None of her accusations were disproved, the official said.

Ms. Edmonds said in an interview Wednesday that she had not been informed about any of the inspector general's findings and was planning
a lawsuit to force the public release of the report.

She said was gratified to hear that the inspector general found that her allegations played a part in her dismissal, and she said public pressure
was needed to correct what she considers continuing problems in the F.B.I.'s ability to translate terrorism intelligence.

"Here we are almost three years after Sept. 11, and these problems have not been corrected," she said. "This is one of the major problems the
intelligence community is facing."
F.B.I. officials say that while they are continuing to seek more linguists, particularly in Arabic, Farsi and other languages critical to
terrorism investigations, they believe they have already made strong inroads in correcting translation problems.

while you're at it, foxnews has a poll too,
they want to know if you think the recent security warnings were appropriate.
and THE MAJORITY think NOT!!!
(and this is the fox people!!)

wow!
the veil is really lifting?
mimi

http://www.lewrockwell.com/kwiatkowski/kwiatkowski88.html

20 Months and 585 Pages Wasted – Your Government at Work for You!

by Karen Kwiatkowski

Reading through the official 9/11 report,* I quickly lost my focus – apparently emulating the 9/11 commission over the past 20 months.  *(http://wid.ap.org/documents/911/911Report.pdf

The prequel of 9-11 gets the novella treatment, the intended chills and thrills landing somewhat flat. The aftermath of the attack features heroism and dedication, performance under fire and stress. Good stuff, but we’ve seen it before in far more detail, long before the overdue commission report. The report also provides abbreviated and sweetly presented 9-11 event timelines – apparently still being debated in spite of being sold for $10 each by the Government Printing Office.

The report might have been original in its recommendations, yet even these mirror last month’s "How We Went to War in Iraq on False Pretenses, Part I."* More bureaucracy, more centralization, more superficial accountability and no real accountability. Failing government agencies and departments should have been eliminated. Industries, like those relating to public air transportation, should have been brutally weaned from the federal teat. Numerous senior bureaucrats should have lost their jobs. Instead, we augmented and poured funds into the poor performers, increased the federal coddling of the transportation industry, and added new bureaucratic layers typified by the Department of Homeland Security, so everyone gets their piece of the tax- and debt-funded action. *(http://intelligence.senate.gov/iraqreport2.pdf)

More...

I have an off topic question?

After Mike Malloy's new show last night on Air America I looked up Geneva Clark's website 'Higher Level Astrology', she'a a big supporter of his show, and the site seems to be down. Where is the awesome Geneva?

Heinz Kerry Has Retort for Bush Fans

Tuesday, August 3, 2004; Page A03

MILWAUKEE, Aug. 2 -- A week ago she told a writer from a Pittsburgh newspaper to "shove it," and on Monday night the never-bashful Teresa Heinz Kerry offered up another attention-getting line, saying four more years of the Bush presidency would be "hell" for the country.

Heinz Kerry was introducing her husband, John F. Kerry, at a huge outdoor rally here when a group of Bush supporters, armed with a megaphone, started chanting from a distance, "Four more years! Four more years!"

Without hesitating, Heinz Kerry responded, "They want four more years of hell."

The candidate threw back his head with a laugh, and the partisan, pro-Kerry crowd roared its approval, chanting, "Three more months, three more months," with Heinz Kerry joining in. When it was his turn to speak, Kerry said of his wife, "She speaks her mind, and she speaks the truth -- and she's pretty quick on her feet, too."

-- Dan Balz

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A35665-2004Aug2.html

This moment is surely leading up to something similar to that classic scene in the "Wizard of Oz" where the mighty Oz is projected to the populace with smoke and mirrors as this all powerful being frightening the populace from behind a curtain. Then FINALLY after putting up with years of constant lies and being bullied, someone suspects something is just not right and pulls open the curtain, revealing nothing more than an ultimately small,weak person's attempt to totally misrepresent himself to a cowered people.

Meanwhile...

http://tinyurl.com/5kvny

New N. Korean Missiles Said to Threaten U.S.

BERLIN (Reuters) - North Korea (news - web sites) is deploying new land- and sea-based ballistic missiles that can carry nuclear warheads and may have sufficient range to hit the United States, according to the authoritative Jane's Defense Weekly.

In an article due to appear Wednesday, Jane's said the two new systems appeared to be based on a decommissioned Soviet submarine-launched ballistic missile, the R-27.

It said communist North Korea had acquired the know-how during the 1990s from Russian missile specialists and by buying 12 former Soviet submarines which had been sold for scrap metal but retained key elements of their missile launch systems.

Jane's, which did not specify its sources, said the sea-based missile was potentially the more threatening of the two new weapons systems.

"It would fundamentally alter the missile threat posed by the DPRK (Democratic People's Republic of Korea) and could finally provide its leadership with something that it has long sought to obtain -- the ability to directly threaten the continental U.S.," the weekly said.

Apart from targeting the United States, South Korea (news - web sites) or Japan, cash-strapped North Korea might seek to sell the technology to countries that have bought its missiles in the past, with Iran a prime candidate, the article added.

Ian Kemp, news editor of Jane's Defense Weekly, said North Korea would only spend the money and effort on developing such missiles if it intended to fit them with nuclear warheads.

More...

http://tinyurl.com/6sxex

Source: Terror attack to be in early September

Morgana, it's still there. Just go to cnn main page and scroll down a bit. It's on the right-hand side of the screen. Many thanks again for the Blue Moon article. Blue Moon rays seem to be engulfing Smirky, Snarly & Co. Whooopeeee!

Kerry's exit plan.....

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/printer_080404Y.shtml

Attack in early September??

http://www.newsday.com/news/ny-usterr0803,0,7499727,print.story?coll=ny-top-span-headlines

Of interest here in the latest from Harper's Weekly Review http://www.harpers.org/MostRecentWR.html

***A government audit found that Halliburton lost about one third of the property it was given to manage in Iraq; 6,975 out of 20,531 items were
missing. The lost government property was worth $18.6 million.***

And this tidbit, which makes me most mental on getting BushCo out of power.

***The Bush Administration issued a new rule
that will permit the EPA to approve pesticides without finding out from wildlife agencies whether the chemicals will harm plants and animals protected by the Endangered Species Act.***

Wv, Re: an early sept attack, Maya Del Mar is saying much the same thing in her article on the Merc Rx.

http://www.daykeeperjournal.com/retrogrades.shtml

Like John Edwards said in his speech at the convention: "Aren't You Just Sick of It"

"Reports That Led to Terror Alert Were Years Old, Officials Say"
By Douglas Jehl & David Johnston
August 3, 2004

WASHINGTON, Aug. 2 -Much of the information that led the authorities to raise the terror alert at several large financial institutions in the New York City and Washington areas was three or four years old, intelligence and law enforcement officials said on Monday. They reported that they had not yet found concrete evidence that a terrorist plot or preparatory surveillance operations were still under way.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/03/politics/03intel.html?ex=1092196800

A study of civilian casualties

http://www.thejournalnews.com/print_newsroom/080204/a0102casualties.html

American valour?

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6615.htm

Unmasked: The War Against Iraqi Children

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6616.htm

A Nation in Danger. Or a President in Peril

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6612.htm

Pakistan under pressure to arrest terrorists
as election nears....

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/FH04Df03.html

....talk about chutzpah - Cheney blames Democrats for gas prices....

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&u=/ap/20040803/ap_on_el_pr/cheney_4&printer=1

which is it? stories conflict....

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040803/D847VG4O0.html

Marine Lands in Film, Collides with Superiors

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0802-03.htm

..the story that won't go away....

http://www.interventionmag.com/cms/print.php?sid=823&POSTNUKESID=4f6878c60294832e39a972a948a17893

OMG!

i read the other day on drudge that the repugs want to do away with the i.r.s.. has anyone heard any more on this?
O.M.G. is not even coming close to the nerve of these people!
my big question is: why are they being soooo blatant? what's going on?????

jo, good point on the 'cc's on the letter. of course we won't hear about this. the news is either managed by bushco or self-managed. as they used to say about county supervisors in the area where i grew up (central california), they're so stupid you don't even have to bribe them. the web site in new zealand is the place bev harris started the 'black box' voting articles. isn't it a shame that stories have to start outside the usa to get coverage here.

i know that almost all of you boycott all tv, but i'd like to encourage you to help the boycott of CNN in particular. these bums have whored for the republicans since walter isacson (former pres.) went to the hill to make friends with convervative republicans. they continue to push the bush line despite the fact that a majority of their audience consists of democrats. tell your tv watching friends to turn them off. if you've turned them off, go to

http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form6a.html?2

and 'report errors,' namely their lousy coverage. these guys need a big scare and they're ripe. if even a half-hearted boycott starts, they will have a major impact. the good news is that cnn/faux/msnbc all have puny audiences, 2-3 million.

let'em have it on the 'report errors'. their reporting is non stop effors.

OMG! saudi's give bush $130,000 or more in jewelry. of course, this one comes from out of the country also, from the aussies! we moving throug the looking glass:

http://www.theadvertiser.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,10329366%255E1702,00.html

Ok, lemme see if I got this straight.

They have been so inept in dealing with PRK that we are now in danger of having nuclear bombs flung at us from submarines.

They have been so inept in protecting our borders, our ports, our reservoirs and dams, our nuclear plants (eeeek!), and so on, that we are in danger at all times of attacks on those.

They are going to warn us every few days of a new alert and--look at the para immediately above--they will sooner or later issue a warning followed that coincides with an attack.

Meanwhile, they are unable to gather any new intelligence that will further protect us.

People, this is an outrage (she said, as though anyone would disagree (except, of course, for a certain
bottom-feeder)!

Meanwhile, back at the ranch. (OMG, I do NOT want to use that phrase.) Smirky is becoming more inarticulate than ever and Snarly is still hung up on the Iraq WMD intel-crap that--unlike the current terra stuff--is so old it dates back to the first Barf admin.

I need my blankie now. Thank you for your forbearance.

JoannaO, please! We need some incantations to help rid us of certain vile infiltrations. You can do those like no other.

Mike, get the word out on Democratic Underground, they have a much wider audience. And ask them to spread the word to turn off CNN.

mike - thanks for the info on CNN. we have been sick and tired of them pandering to Bush and the repubs and reporting half-truths for so long now that we stopped watching them also. Have written them via the site you gave us .. and will forward same to all our friends! I hope more people do this also!

Canada has it right!

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/Page/document/polls/pollResults?vote=34081&id=27156&pollid=27156&answerid=34081&poll=GAMFront&save=_save27156&show_vote_always=no&hub=National&subhub=VoteResult

....interesting take on voter registration in the Navy....

http://www.newsday.com/news/columnists/ny-livit013914500aug01,0,7007991,print.column?coll=ny-news-columnists

Amen! Amen! Amen!

http://www.yellowtimes.org/print.php?sid=2021

Morgana!!

Granny D is running for the Senate.

http://www.westernmassafsc.org/news/GRANNYD.HTM

Doris "Granny D" Haddock is running for U.S. Senate from New Hampshire. See http://HaddockforSenate.org for details.

NH Dems are excited about the possibilites for her to help swing this important swing state.

Mike, I was shocked and relieved to hear that Faux News has such a small audience - where did you get those numbers? Very interesting!

like who's watching tv here besides
you joe?
lol

Everybody,
Turn off FOX altogether before you research and stop buying the products they advertise and let them know you are doing it too.

I think we are watching a meltdown, and thanks to the mini microcasm we can have a peek into the macrocasm ;-)

http://www.sfgate.com/comics/meyer/

Don't miss Joshua Micah Marshall today at http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/

He's on a roll. One article summarizes Snarly's Halliburton's SEC fine for fraud during the time Snarly was in charge there. Another gets into the two people who the Repugs are considering running against Obama, two characters that seem to be beyond parody (and polite society, in the case of one). JMM also takes a quick tour of Snarly's blaming the Dems for oil prices. They really do live in a parallel universe--and they are "running" (read: ruining) the country. Astrologers here, please take a deep bow: you predicted that rays of truth would begin penetrating the oily darkness this summer. And boy were you right!

The *love* of money is the root of all evil is the correct quote. But why press a nuance to a stone, they'll never get it. So take away the idol that is really worshiped, the money.

I love the idea of boycotting products, the Bottom Line is what keeps a conservative's heart? pumping. Stop the flow of blood. Rupture it. People have the power. And besides , when you stop buying the crap they sell you'll have a simpler lifestyle and healthier diet and won't need as much. It really works.

BREAKING: Financial Targets Face No Immediate Threat
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/080504Z.shtml

Human rights groups demand immediate access to children held as criminals
or 'security detainees.'

http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0804/dailyUpdate.html?s=ent

BREAKING: Oil Prices Hit Record, Fear Cited
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/080504Y.shtml

Why would NYC officals open the Statue of Liberty during a Terra Alert???
DUH!

Why would * send Pickles and the twins to the NYC Citicorp building for a photo- op during a Terra Alert?
DUH!

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/08/04/britain.jester.ap/index.html

Help wanted: Court jester

LONDON, England (AP) -- English Heritage, guardian of various historic sites in Britain, is advertising for someone to be the nation's first court jester since 1649.

An ad appearing in Thursday's editions of The Times laid out the qualifications: "Must be mirthful and prepared to work summer weekends in 2005. Must have own outfit (with bells). Bladder on stick provided if required."

(job details at link, I can think of one candidate...)
Namaste~
~D

Dommael, I am pretty sure we are thinking of the same candidate and I bet they have their own suit complete with bells.

....and an old megaphone.

Playing Dirty

 Negative campaign ads are just the tip of the iceberg in the GOP's arsenal of vicious political attacks.

http://www.tompaine.com/articles/playing_dirty.php

I am curious, the posts say Pat C posted at 7pm what time zone is that?
it's only noonish here Pacific Daylight Time.
Mimi

Mimi, this site runs on GMT as far as I can tell; it's weird to post 9PM PST but have it say the next day many hours later.
BTW,

"The Bush campaign struck a softer tone in its newest batch of commercials, praising the president for 'moving America forward' after months of criticizing rival John Kerry," the AP reports.
-Political Wire

Yeah, he's moving us forward alright, right over a cliff!

Hey. bigtime rock stars are having a tour called 'Vote for Change" in the swing states. It is not called a pro Kerry concert but a dump Bush concert.
They are telling it like it is and will draw the younger folks to vote. I'll bet that Shrub never made it to his twin's graduation ceremonies because he'd have to deal with the boos from their peers. Air America is #1 with the 18-34 year olds.
The dinosaurs are gasping for breath as it all implodes, explodes, and we out the BS they call air.

shrub did NOT go to his twin's commencement ceremonies.
in fact

bhakti,
That was one of the reasons he didn't go to the ceremonies... another was he fell off his 'bicycle' --- they used to call that the 'wagon', didn't they?

Great news! Music can reach the young, who never listen to the talking heads ---

Namaste

This is a must read from Buzzflash.

http://www.buzzflash.com/analysis/04/08/ana04014.html

They did the same thing in 2002.

BTW CitiBank is owned by the Saudis. Of course they guarded *that* building.
It's in the plans to build a major sports arena along the Westside Highway. Just what NYC does not need.
I keep wondering if the real plan is to throw dissenting citizens to the lions?

Check out this photo
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/8/4/17222/02470

Is the war pResident paranoid? Or afraid someone might throw 'Le Sueur' peas? Write your own caption...
---------------------------

Donna Brazille hits it OUT OF THE PARK
by JeffLieber
Wed Aug 4th, 2004 at 17:31:49 GMT

(From the diaries -- kos)
I'm waiting on the transcript, but a moment ago Donna Brazille killed the "John Kerry was an indistinguished as a Senator" meme.

In the "rapid fire" section of Crossfire she said the following to a Republican Strategist...

"Dick Cheney was in the house for over a decade. How many bills did he pass?"

The Republican Strategist paused, looked physically ill, then tried to change the subject by saying "Well, he was aknowledged as a leader."

There was laughter in the crowd.

But Brazille didn't let him go. She leaned forward and very calmly told the truth.

"2 bills".

2 bills for Cheney. 57 for Kerry.

Code blue! Code Blue!

Um... never mind... play taps, 'cause the meme is dead.
http://www.dailykos.com

Beware of 6 August, it is going to be a bad at the
office for the shrubs!

Did anyone else see President Clinton on David Letterman's show last night? He was great, and the crowd applauded and applauded. It was so wonderful to hear someone who could actually put a handful of words together into a comprehensible sentence quickly! Intelligent, articulate... ahhh, the good old days.

Beware why??

Jo, Clinton was so refreshing!

Bhakti, could it be they've got nothing? Could the alert be just warmed over spit dressed up as new news to scare the people?

Sally and Dommael, I KNOW the initials GWB isn't even close to the person you have in mind ;).

Morgana, welcome back. Speaking of music here are some lyrics quoted in the Aug 19 issue of Rolling Stone:
--------------------------------------
"Grand-theft oil gonna bleed us/ New World Order doesn't need us/ Call for peace, better heed us."
(MKLVFKWR from Unity: the Olympic Games Album)
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"Clean-cut all-American/ Really ain't so clean/ His royal auditorium/ is a murder scene."
(Favorite Son)

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"I'm getting kind of tired of the situation/ The U.S. attacking other nations and narration on every station."
(The Beastie Boys, Right Right Now Now)

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Neptune in Aquarius and Uranus in Pisces--maybe especially potent for artists, mystics, and dreamers--
tyranny's most dangerous enemies.

For tickets to the Move On PAC show with
Springsteen, etc.

http://www.moveonpac.org/vfc/?id=3226-3161119-8eyq4hI2ajLu03vOPykuYg

....The Little Bush Who Cried Wolf....

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/printer_080504A.shtml

water from Gaza, oil from Iraq... still think SC Sen Fritz Hollings was wrong in saying Admin invaded Iraq for ....

http://www.jewishsf.com/bk030418/i22b.shtml

Please refrain from using "beware" statements and then not adding your name! You can't make announcements like that and then not clarify them - we don't do that here.

thanks!! talk about leaving us all in suspense!
(maybe it was Lynn Cheney who posted!)

"Make Love, F**k War, Peace will save us!"

MKLVFKWR is a pseudonym for Moby & Public Enemy, Barbara. It's a brilliant single, I downloaded it from Itunes. Glad to know Favorite Son and the Beastie Boys are in on the action, too.

Janet, I think English Heritage is going to be spoiled for choice after the November elections! There may be so many GOPers applying for the Court Jester position they may run out of bladders on sticks!

Right on, Siobhan, let me set the template, it's like this:

Beware of 2 November, it is going to be a bad day at the
office for the shrubs!
Namaste~
~D

What she/he is probably talking about is T Jupiter is in an almost exact square to T Pluto and they set up a t-square to GWB's Uranus. Mercury at 8 degrees Virgo is coming close to its stationary retrograde position and is less than a degree from GWB's Mars. T Pluto and T Jupiter is also conjuncting the Inaugural Moon in the 8th house. It could relate to loss of money for the US or another breaking scandal for GWB, it would be unexpected (with his Uranus involved.) Saturn is conjunct his Mercury/MC midpoint and that is a sadness, separation, aimlessness or abandonment of one's aims. T Pluto and Jupiter are aspecting his Uranus/NN midpoint, that would be sudden events or upsets and sudden good luck. Mercury is aspecting his Neptune/Pluto midpoint and that would be many plans incapable of being realized, sensitive nerves and a problem thinking for himself.

A Jupiter/Pluto square is fanatism, it isn't clear (because his Uranus is involved with the T Planets) whether he is the victim on the 6th or victimizes others.

Thanks Sally for expanding upon "Anonymous'" statement.

For the few of you who actually watch the tee-vee, when Smirky is talking do you think he looks as though he is sucking on a mint in-between words and/or phrases. That has been reported, but I'd rather rely on you.

Phenothiazine does that kind of thing to a person.

Many thanks.

************GUIDO ALERT***************

here is a little item that may interest you. if it proves out, the election is over. it seems the unification church (rev. moon) subsidiary bought some surplus soviet subs. in turn, they sold them to, gee, uh, NORTH KOREA. thats the same north korea we're worried will be able to hit my state of birth, california. guess who rev. moon has paid over $10 million to -- George H.W. Bush (in speaker fees etc.). he also gives to active politicians (unfortunately a few dems.).

is this a big enough scandal to get the mainstream press' attention. i think so.

http://www.gorenfeld.net/blog/2004/08/rev-moons-submarines-sold-to-kim-jong.html

Lucy et al, rest easy. As agravating as cable news people are, their audiences are smalllllll!!!

this is from 4/04. o'liely, who is tops on the lsit, has less than 2.5 million viewers (1% of our population). i especially like the part with wolf and paula zahn down 70%. wonder if they're getting the message.

"NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--April 27, 2004--FOX News Channel (FNC) beat CNN and MSNBC combined in viewership and demographics in the Prime Time and 24-Hour time periods for April '04, according to Nielsen Media Research.

"In addition, FNC continued its dominance capturing ten out of the top eleven shows in cable news. CNN's only show in the top eleven, Larry King Live, remained at number four with 1,335,000 viewers. King trailed FNC's The O'Reilly Factor (2,240,000 viewers), Hannity & Colmes (1,638,000 viewers) and The FOX Report with Shepard Smtih (1,465,000 viewers) respectively."

::jingle, jingle::
~D

I don't know about the rest of you, but my energies are directed toward making sure the U.S.A. continues to be the beacon for all humankind. Liberty. Justice. Freedom. Democracy. For all! Let freedom ring!

OK, now, let's look at the enemy of those things. Liberty. Well, the so-called "Patriot Act" seems to rather obviate that. Justice: Hey, just take a look at "Gitmo" and Abu Ghraib. Democracy: Check out FL's recent history of voting and PLEASE look at all of Bev Harris' research into those diabolical machines. For all: Look at the latest little crap whereby the Repugs wouldn't let people attend a rally unless they signed a veritable statement of allegiance to Smirky.

Let freedom ring! Arm yourselves with info and proclaim the truth, whatever the venue. Let freedom ring! Tell the truth to your relatives, your neighbors, the editor of your local newspaper, and so on.

We must take this country back! We must work with the cosmic energies and make Freedom reign again in the USA.

Why can't those A#)$(#&)#&$ Iraqis appreciate what Smirky, Snarly & Co have done for them (with our tax money)?

Water Offers Deadly Relief in a Blistering Iraqi Slum

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By Ashraf Khalil Special to The Times

BAGHDAD — The price of bicycle pumps has more than quadrupled in Sadr City, for reasons that have nothing to do with cycling. Residents of Baghdad's worst slum use them to coax water from the district's battered supply lines. It's either that or use their mouths as though they're siphoning gas.

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But there's a problem — the water is making them sick.

Typhoid and hepatitis E are running rampant through Sadr City this summer, as residents rely heavily on a sewage-tainted water supply to endure temperatures of 115 degrees and up. The outbreak has strained local healthcare facilities and left Health Ministry officials able to only guess at the scope of the problem.

The increase in typhoid (known as "tee-pho" here) is a regular summer occurrence in Iraq (news - web sites) because of increased water consumption, but officials say this year's infection rates are much higher than usual. Hepatitis E, although present in the country for decades, is more rare.

"We would read about it in books," said Dr. Qassim Nuwesri, director of Sadr City's Ali bin Abi Talib Hospital.

Sadr City's aging water system was crumbling before last year's U.S.-led invasion to oust Saddam Hussein (news - web sites). But the postwar looting of a sewage treatment plant brought the crisis to a new level. Broken water lines allow raw sewage to seep into the regular water supply. Frequent electrical shortages stop the municipal water pumps, and innovative means of pumping water from the dry pipes end up bringing in extra sewage.

"It's always been bad, but now it's getting worse every day," said Faliha Ahmed, 32, a scrawny typhoid patient in the hospital's crowded infectious disease ward. "What can we do? We're thirsty."

At least four people have died from hepatitis E, and the number of reported cases of the disease in the first half of 2004 — about 12,000 — has already surpassed the amount for all of 2002. Faced with a shortage of diagnostic kits, the government's communicable disease center sent a team to test a limited sample of patients at Sadr City health centers. Twelve of 16 people tested positive for hepatitis E.

As the brutal Baghdad summer heads toward its traditional August peak, health officials and Sadr City residents expect the infection rate of both diseases, and the death toll, to keep rising.

Both diseases are characterized by high fever and gastrointestinal ailments. Typhoid is treatable with antibiotics, unlike hepatitis E, which is also characterized by jaundice, is particularly dangerous for pregnant women and has no known vaccine.

Other parts of the country are bracing for a disease-ridden August. The United Nations (news - web sites) has warned of a humanitarian crisis in the southern city of Basra, also because of high temperatures and a suspect water supply.

In Sadr City, a packed and squalid urban landscape filled with more than 2 million impoverished Shiite Muslims, the crisis is already in full swing.

Marked by standing pools of raw sewage, the district "has every condition you could ask for" to prompt an outbreak, said Dr. Atallah Salmany, a hepatitis expert at the communicable disease center.

The cause is as plain as the solution is seemingly distant.

"Improve the services, improve the drinking water, fix the sewage network," said Nuwesri, the hospital director.

But U.S. Army commanders in the area acknowledge that almost no serious reconstruction has been accomplished in Sadr City. Contractors, they say, have been scared off by frequent attacks by members of the Al Mahdi militia.

Residents are left with a revolting water supply.

"If I showed you the water in our house, you would not believe it," said Taiha Abdel Reda, 45. "We turn on the tap and the water has a foul smell and we see threads of [human waste] in it."

Those who end up hospitalized don't fare much better.

Nuwesri said his hospital often uses water that's "just as contaminated as the water in the homes."

Even that tainted supply has been known to disappear for up to 18 hours. Several times, Nuwesri said, he's had to appeal to local fire stations to provide the hospital with emergency water tankers.

The hospital director shrugs off the irony of serving tainted water to patients made sick by tainted water. A 35-year resident of Sadr City, Nuwesri shares his neighbors' sense of helpless resignation.

"We can't even get contaminated water!" he said. "Let's first get some and then we'll worry if it's hygienic."

Health officials, meanwhile, admit there's little to be done in the short term but chronicle the scope of the outbreak — and even that is hampered by a lack of facilities.

"Since 1991, we've had no studies, no programs," said Salmany of the communicable disease center.

Salmany's office has worked with the World Health Organization (news - web sites) to distribute 48,000 20-liter water jugs and 2 million purification tablets to residents.

But the efforts have made little impact in District 74, a Sadr City neighborhood that health officials regard as an infectious disease hotbed.

"The water we drink is the same as this," said Khadar Abbas, pointing to an open sewer outside his home. He had only vaguely heard of the purification pill distribution program.

The Abbas family draws water from an outdoor spigot with a bicycle pump and stores it in a yellow plastic barrel, boiling a portion each morning for drinking. The barrel is now discolored with brown and green streaks, and the boiling hasn't prevented one of Abbas' sons from contracting hepatitis E.

Down the street, a funeral banner hangs for Amal Kadhim.

"The condition started with vomiting. At first I was happy because I thought she was pregnant," said Kadhim's widower, Qassim Wussfy. She died three days after checking into a hospital, heavily jaundiced and gasping for breath.

Municipal officials offer little short-term hope.

"We're not just sitting here," said Jaleel Abaidy, a spokesman for the Baghdad Municipality, which is responsible for city public works efforts.

A new project, scheduled to begin this month, will provide 33 million gallons of clean water to Sadr City, he said.

But that will take nine months, at best, to complete, and Abaidy acknowledged that there's little to be done to help Sadr City's residents bear the rest of the summer.

"We inherited an existing problem," he said. "The whole system has expired."

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Special correspondent Caesar Ahmed contributed to this report

I use both the July 4th US chart and the articals of confederation chart (3/1/1781-york-and I use 10:40 am). I find this chart works when the July 4th chart does not. Check it with Pearl Harbor.

Anyhow to add to what Sally said. This chart has Saturn at 19 Sag. 16. pluto 5 aq 50, Jupiter 27 scopio 14, moon 20 pices 50 and the mid point of Pluto and Neptune is 5 sag and mid heaven at 15 Aqu. I think Sally did not say that Neptune was opposite the Sun on the 6th.

No I did not write the first reference, but had been working with the A of C chart for Aug 27 and just realized that all my figures where a bit past. I don't have the energy to recalculate to the 6th. But I may be wrong that Aug 27 is the dangerous day for Bush and it is tomorrow or more likely both. Will we know what happens, maybe so maybe not.

On a more positive note. I was reading my emails, lots of doom and gloom, and then I was reading one from Gov. Dean about a petition about Tom Delay. Then all of a sudden I knew I did not need to do so, as everything is being taken care of and there is no longer any need to worry. And I doubt that we even have to wait for the election. It is like all those guys just melt away and are gone.

Kinda goes along with the blue moon artical(great artical as usual by the way). So after that experience and the great moon story, I feel really great.

Jean

i feel as if i'm melting away tonight, hot flashes, no a/c, can't sleep...is anyone there?

...

Oh my gosh Mike. I can relate to that! Short of replacing the a/c, we used FANS....several of them, every place we could put them, and that was during a HOT spell here.

I hope you are doing better today. :-)

Dommael, I know hardly anything about contemporary music (my daughter is the expert) but really liked those lyrics. Rolling Stone also quoted Chuck D (I suppose he is a musician with Moby and Public Enemy) as saying "This present administration looks at itself as being above the world instead of part of it." How right he is! Re Favorite Son I was thinking that was the name of the song, but maybe it is the name of the group.

Yes Joe, age and level of development being key factors in my observations of GWB. Levels of consciousness and awareness determine how 'physically' or 'actionable' the planetary energies tend to manifest. Resistance to the energies or message tend to increase energy build up which later can explode. GWB impresses me as late baby or early to mid young soul age manifesting as late baby. That's karmic speak and only my opinion. In other words, GWB does not give one the impression of wisdom or growth from his immediate human experience. That leads me to believe that he is quite suseptable to the symbolism his transits imply thru 'external actions' as opposed to 'inner reflection.' As he happens to be president of USA, this impacts not only my life but the rest of the country and world. His Sun conjunct Sun of USA chart further reflects growing pains of this country. I can only hope that the 'People of USA' can collectively manifest at a higher level of consciousness.

**As you read your short report, or any other astrological report, keep in mind that the energies interpreted here are your birth potentials. However, you may or may not choose to actualize these energies in the manner described. Your age, sex, socio-economic situation, education, environment, level of development, and many other factors contribute to the ways in which you express your natal energies. Remember, the planets do not compel you to do or be anything. They influence you, but you still have the free will to determine your own life.**

Posted by: Joe on August 5, 2004 05:01 AM

..Further proof the Israelis don't want Peace

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20040805.wisra0805/BNStory/International/

Here is some wisdom from the mountain people of the Blure Ridge.

http://www.citizen-times.com/cgi-bin/article/print/57183

"Then I'll get on my knees and pray, we don't get fooled again."

- The Who

Fast forward to mid-October. President Bush continues to trail Democratic nominee Sen. John Kerry in the presidential election polls, not so much because Kerry has electrified the American electorate, but because he's not Bush. Then it happens - the "October Surprise."

The original "October Surprise" was allegedly carried out in 1980 by officials of Ronald Reagan's presidential campaign. Iranian militants had stormed the U.S. embassy in Tehran in 1979, taking approximately 66 American hostages. President Jimmy Carter's administration pursued the return of the hostages but had little success. Years later, former Carter administration staffer Gary Sick attributed Carter's setback in this matter to overtures made to the Iranian government by officials of the Reagan campaign. By encouraging the Iranians to continue holding the hostages beyond the November 1980 presidential election, the Reagan supporters believed that their candidate would have a much better opportunity to unseat Carter. Whether or not Reagan's entourage actually convinced the Iranians to withhold the release of the hostages is still rigorously disputed. What is beyond dispute, however, is that Iran released the remaining hostages on Jan. 20, 1981, immediately after Reagan took office.

So if you were Karl Rove, Bush's top political strategist, and your candidate was slipping in the polls, what re- election strategy would you be cooking up right now?

More....

For anyone unfamiliar with the Michael teachings
and soul levels, here is a link..

http://www.michaelteachings.com/

http://tinyurl.com/6e8cw

Timeline of Terror Alerts

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/fae01e0c-e5b2-11d8-bfd2-00000e2511c8.html

Missed Chance

It is curious that President George W. Bush, who so vaunts his decisiveness in his war on terror, displays such a half-hearted approach to the institutional changes needed to prosecute it better. A couple of years ago Congress had to press him to make the new director of homeland security a cabinet job. His reluctance to provide White House intelligence briefings to the 9/11 commission helped delay that panel's work. And now that the commission has produced its final report, Mr Bush has only half-adopted its most important recommendation - for a national intelligence director. The latter would be responsible for co-ordinating the many US intelligence agencies, but in practice lacks the power to do so.

As the 9/11 commission report made clear, various bits of the US intelligence apparatus held key information on the hijackers but failed to put it together in a way that might have alerted it to the hijackers' deadly intent. The chief failure was lack of co-ordination between US domestic and foreign intelligence-gatherers. Many countries separate these two activities for obvious reasons. But in the US, the separation between the Federal Bureau of Investigation's focus on domestic security and the Central Intelligence Agency's foreign espionage brief was increased to the point of non-communication in reaction to the Watergate scandal, during which the Nixon administration used former CIA employees to spy on, and burgle, their political enemies at home.

More...

http://salon.com/opinion/blumenthal/2004/08/04/terror_alerts/print.html

Betrayal of trust
The Bush administration's disgraceful history of lies and distortions explains why so many Americans are dismissing the latest terror alerts as a political stunt.

- - - - - - - - - - - -
By Sidney Blumenthal

??Aug. 4, 2004  |  The fog of war has descended over the campaign. Within 72 hours after the Democratic Convention ended, the Department of Homeland Security declared a new terror alert, jacking up the color-coded level from yellow to orange, verging on red. The cause, the government reported, was that the computer of an al-Qaida operative captured in Pakistan contained precise information about threats to five financial institutions in New York and Washington.

Then additional information was released: The intelligence was mostly three to four years old (was the World Trade Center in this latest batch of targets?), al-Qaida's surveillance of U.S. buildings had been mostly conducted through the Internet and other "open sources," someone had opened the computer file again in January of this year for uncertain reasons, and Pakistani officials said that the captured material indicated no new al-Qaida planning.

The effect of the alert has been to throw the presidential campaign into turmoil and momentarily freeze it. John Kerry decided to accept the administration's explanations and timing at face value. He could not be seen as veering into an Oliver Stone script, flailing at shadows of paranoia. His critique of Bush's war on terrorism must be made with iron discipline, based on the facts at hand, not the suspicions in mind. Yet other Democrats have felt free to voice their views that the administration is using the situation for political advantage. The steam puts additional pressure on Kerry, who has to hold fast.

In part, the level of partisanship has increased because of the clumsy performance of Tom Ridge, the secretary of homeland security, who turned the alert announcement into a political rally. "We must understand that the kind of information available to us today is the result of the president's leadership in the war against terror," he said on Aug. 1. Several days later, Ridge held another news conference, at which he declared, "We do not do politics at the Department of Homeland Security." With that the alert rose to the risible.

More....

Shade

I agree with you about W's soul age...it is obvious, methinks he also may be a servant...
he's certainly no sage.

Why Bush has more to fear, that fear itself...

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20040805/COMART05/TPComment/TopStories

Springsteen speaks out in NYTimes guest column

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/05/opinion/05bruce.html?pagewanted=print&position=

Do not feed the energy creatrue. Please!

wv, I'm curious how you see bush as being a potential servant/slave soul. bush could be a sage, as in many con artists lived lives as sages. Plus he has that hokey facade. And he has been lucky. Sages always seem to carry a pocketful of luck in nearly any life. Not that I have anything against sages persay, being one myself :) Would you agree, Richard Clarke is probably a warrior? I can see that in the methodical pursuit and loyalty. Kuncinch strikes me as an artisan. I'm up in the air about what Dean could be, though lots of artisans do lean towards the field of medicine.

Joe - Wow! George Bush "friendly, God loving, good souled, etc etc"??? My grandparents excaped from Germany just before WWII started and I remember them saying they thought the same exact things about Hitler before they saw his true agenda! The relatives that stayed in Germany were never heard from again ... and they stayed because they thought Hitler was sent by God to rescue Germany from it's troubles and thought him to be such a great man and leader. We all know the end of that story ..so, "fear of George Bush"? you bet your life ...! Read up a bit on Hitler and see if you don't see the same comparisons with your favorite leader! You may have a lightbulb moment (but I doubt it - neither did the Germans until it was too late).

Please don't respond to Joe, it's my thread and I don't want this kind of energy fed. Have a great day.

Well put, Sally. This site rocks! :-)

Worth a read...

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6621.htm

What the terror alerts really tell us..

http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,4986109-103677,00.html

Sally .. sorry! You are right. I won't reply to him again ..he's not worth the effort. You have a great day too!

a good story on the hunt for Osama - we'll
know before the election...

http://news.independent.co.uk/low_res/story.jsp?story=547641&host=3&dir=71

Sally, I have a question. The unease you are feeling towards the coming elections, is this in part due to the eclipse in October and the fact that GWB declared his candidacy on an eclipse?

It will be interesting to see what kind of news events (besides the RNC) are happening when Pluto finally stations and goes direct at the end of this month.

Wow, wv, from the Lawence Martin article you referenced: **With his narcissistic strut, he tries to project strength. But how does a president project anything but weakness in having the world's greatest power tremble over evidence of file-updating by an enemy with a tiny fraction of his military capacity?**

This country sure is getting some lessons in fear. Saturn does it's thing. Now in a perfect world, when it hits the USA mercury, wouldn't it be wonderful if we could finally get some TRUTH from the TV news media en mass? Journalistic responsibility, now there is a concept.

Thanks to Mike for the link to CNN. Finally I could tell someone how disgusted I am with their attempts at reporting and judging current events.

Sally, Please delete Joe's posts, they are time wasting drivel and do not have one iota of Astrology info to offer unless it is to down us here on your site.

Here's my theory on Right-wingnutjobs.
When a head is so far up an a** , all it can smell is ****. So, no matter how many roses are put in front of that nose, it is so filled with ****, that's all it can smell.

For those who are following the senate race in Illinois, today's Chicago Sun Times has a funny piece about the plight of the state GOP. Here's one quip that I particularly liked:

"At the moment that I write this, the Republicans have not yet pulled the trigger, but they've put the gun in their mouth and are working up the nerve."

http://www.suntimes.com/output/brown/cst-nws-brown05.html

The op-ed reminds me of the line that goes 'when you find yourself in a hole, quit digging.'

That is what I am asking. I used not to pay that much attention to eclipses, til I got to the study of mundane astrology. A good case in point is to look at the eclipse that impacted Princess Di's chart before she died. My antennae goes up now.

I notice that Abu Musawi whatever.........the guy supposedly behind the beheadings in Iraq, his birthchart is impacted by the one at end of Oct. So, there could be that angle added to an October Surprise.

I did delete his comments although I don't know why he is an irritant or why anyone reads much less answers him. I don't try to change the mind of people who disagree with astrology or an opinion. To me he isn't anything more than a pesky fly buzzing around, because he doesn't have any facts to back up his opinions and obviously doesn't have a firm, if any, foundation in astrology, answering back just helps him to amuse himself.

I'll bet we could find some interesting Neptune aspects as we follow this timeline.

http://juliusblog.blogspot.com/2004_08_01_juliusblog_archive.html#109156476570482138

Add this to the list.

June 7, 2004 -- The Wall Street Journal publishes exclusive report demonstrating that the Pentagon provided legal rationales and loopholes in 2003 to use torture and methods of near-torture, and how to avoid various international treaties and US laws. Furthermore, the leaked memos suggest that they circumvent US and international laws, the US president should change the rules as they may see fit. All media outlets pick up on this explossive report.

June 14, 2004 - VP Dick Cheney is caught lying about the alleged ties of Saddam Hussein to al Qaeda. Cheney is unable to provide any evidence to his assertions after journalists inquire. On June 15 Bush Bush defends Cheney's unsourced assertions but does not provide any evidence either that there was a "link" between Iraq and al Qaaeda or the 9/11 attacks.

June 15, 2004 - The Justice Department announces to the press they have thwarted an imminent terror plot to bomb malls in Ohio. Somali immigrant arrested and charged on the case.

Later on it is revealed that the Somali immigrant had been arrested one year earlier for his connections to terrorism, but there was nothing "imminent" in that case. The suspect was arrested in Nov. 28, 2003, and the Court papers filed by the government allege that a plot dated to March 2000. His indictment wasn't announced until June 15, 2004.

An American Debate: How Severe the Threat?

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/05/politics/05react.html

Sally,
Actually I am preparing a detailed report on the observations I've made which counter arguments here. I just haven't finished it. Anyway, it is too bad you deleted my posts.

Alert! I just found this at DU and I've gotta check into it and make sure it's true. End of the Era of Big Oil and related nightmares! Just like Sally, Mike & Guido, and many others of you have been saying about this Venus transit: something we never saw before.

http://www.theaircar.com

Buses soon too. 42 factories around the world starting up in a franchise deal. Get your U.S. territory NOW! (only $10 mil)

Sucks in polluted air and filters it before it is released. Cleans the air as it goes down the street!!

No wires either--wireless headlights, etc.!

Sally,
Another thing, interesting how you delete my posts for having no astrological reference to back them up, yet there are so many other posts here that have the same lack of "evidence". It seems to me you are more biased than you want to admit.

Oh, I hope it's not a hoax.

Oh, I hope it's not a hoax.

A GREAT site - Presidential Commericials 1952-
2004

http://www.movingimage.us/site/site.asp

"The Taliban is gone forever."
- Vice President Cheney, 1/27/04

VERSUS

"Afghan President Hamid Karzai is seeking the support of former Taliban officials...No former Taliban have been given ministry positions yet, but it probably won't be long until they are."
- NPR, 8/3/04

Just months after a private interrogator for CACI international "was cited for involvement in the sexual humiliation of Iraqi captives at Baghdad's Abu Ghraib prison," the Department of Defense awarded the company with "a no-bid contract worth up to $23 million…to continue providing private interrogators to gather intelligence in Iraq." The government said it was "satisfied" with CACI's performance.

great site WV, very interesting and fun to watch. I haven't been able to watch any but a couple but am looking forward to doing so. It will be interesting to see how the words, phrases and tones changed from election to election or if they have changed at all.

Pat in Maine -

What are you breathing up there???

http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0805/p14s01-sten.htm

Somebody mentioned that guy (can't deal with Arabic names) but the one that is supposed to be the head bad guy in Iraqi.

The Iraqi's say he was killed Oct 2003. He is a figment of the administrations imagination. He had a wooden leg and could not get away fast enought from a bombing or something like that.

So they will have to dig him up for an October surprize. Or find a look alike. They can fool the American people but not the Iraqi's.

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush offered up a new entry for his catalog of "Bushisms" on Thursday, declaring that his administration will "never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people."
Bush misspoke as he delivered a speech at the signing ceremony for a $417 billion defense spending bill.

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we," Bush said. "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."

No one in Bush's audience of military brass or Pentagon chiefs reacted

Keeps getting better and better..

BWAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!
I daresay that's the best laugh I'm going to get all day, thanx Abilene!
~D

Abilene do you have a link for that?! I love it!

One more to bring a smile to your face:

Kerry hits Bush response to 9/11 attack news

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/05/kerry.911/index.html

Abilene, I found it:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/05/bush.ap/index.html

The late night comedians are going to have a field day with it.

This is more interesting...
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/218908p-188030c.html

We NYer's know the Daily News is a fictional rag that's great for wrapping fish.

Oh sure you do, that is what you all say.

Remember what Sally said up at 346

I found this at the Political Wire:

Overheard on a Train in New York

Q. Do you really think George Bush would scare New Yorkers about a potential terrorist attack if it was only based on four year old information?

A. They invaded a country based on 12 year old information.

Boy, today is a good news day huh?

shylurker,
Unlike you and Sally, some people actually like to debate with actual facts. They have free will and can do what they wish, it isn't up to you to dictate what people should or should not do.

"...never stop thinking of ways to harm our country and neither do we." Freudian Slip I would say and spoken from the heart. Indicates to me that perhaps he does read and hear what the rest of the world and at least half of the country is saying to him. I wish Mr. Bush no harm and I wish no harm would come to us because of Mr. Bush, however it already has.

There is a large group here of Republicans with an organization campigning against the present administration. They are mostly wealthy and gave heavily to the their party in 2000. This has been a really bitter pill for them and their honesty and courage in turning away is something to admire, but it is very painful and hard for them.

They don't feel this is about Republican vs Democrats, or even conservative vs liberal. To them, and to me, this is about saving our constitution and our country. They intend to first do all they can to bring in a new administration and then they intend to watch and demand honesty from Kerry. A person cannot just focusing on "winning" without looking at what they are "winning."

Joe Trippi wrote an article about the parties making themselves obsolete and I could not agree more. Are we going to be part of the problem or part of the solution is a question we must all ask ourselves.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5591533/

For me this election is not about a specific party "taking back" the White House and it's not about a couple of ill-timed GOP tax cuts. The disregard and disrespect for democracy has been stunning, one cannot even list all that has happened since 2000 with a President who has basically said "this is not your country, it's mine and with those I choose to share."

We have to ask ourselves if we ignored the warning signs of America and all her dreams have been sold to Corporate dictators, and one of them is sitting in the White House with his friends, if so we have to resolve to remain active no matter which party we determine will lead us. There is a price to pay for abdicating our power as "the people" and we are paying that price right now.

1st order of business is to change the landscape in Washington, 2nd order of business is to continue our watchdog efforts and make the government accountable to the people once again.

One of the great conservative mindsets has been that the government should not own anything. With that in mind, they have under each Republican administration sold public buildings, trashed our waterways, and desolated our public lands. The government has no right to any of this. The building, waterwasy, and lands belong to the people,and the government is caring for them in our name.

I want my property back.

I just wanted to write that along with Sally's statement.

We have a lot of work to do.

BTW, my apologies for the spelling. I was writing from my heart, and my heart is faster than my fingers.

http://www.baltimorechronicle.com/trifecta_jun02.html

Amazingly enough, we still don't know. I wonder if we ever will. 9/11 mysteries continue begging to be investigated.

Abilene and all, over on Democratic Underground there's a thread under hot topics with lots of comments on Tush's misspeak. One poster had snippets from over a dozen papers across the globe about this. I was stunned. I think this is the first time the press has run with a bushism. I dunno. Maybe it's news because it's the first time he's told the truth in 4 years.

This Floridian will be filling out an absentee ballot. The crooks in this state are unbelievable.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/opinion/content/opinion/epaper/2004/08/04/a12a_glendaedit_0804.html

Sally,
I saw his sweet little smile... sending lots of light and prayers that he gets the transplant in time...

-------------------

DailyKos has a piece of interest:

McCain lashes out against anti-Kerry ad
by kos
Thu Aug 5th, 2004 at 11:40:44 GMT

McCain is now angry at an anti-Kerry ad campaign criticizing his military services as "dishonest and dishonorable". Republican Sen. John McCain, a former prisoner of war in Vietnam, called an ad criticizing John Kerry's military service "dishonest and dishonorable" and urged the White House on Thursday to condemn it as well.
"It was the same kind of deal that was pulled on me," McCain said in an interview with The Associated Press, referring to his bitter Republican primary fight with President Bush.

The 60-second ad features Vietnam veterans who accuse the Democratic presidential nominee of lying about his decorated Vietnam War record and betraying his fellow veterans by later opposing the conflict [...]

"I wish they hadn't done it," McCain said of his former advisers. "I don't know if they knew all the facts."

Asked if the White House knew about the ad or helped find financing for it, McCain said, "I hope not, but I don't know. But I think the Bush campaign should specifically condemn the ad."

The ad is beyond the bounds of common decency -- to attack the highly-decorated Kerry, who volunteered for combat duty while AWOL Bush played pool volleyball with ambitious secretaries in Texas. And the ad doesn't feature a single vet who served on Kerry's swiftboat.
But why is McCain acting all shocked? The Bush machine pulled the same smear crap against him in 2000, as he himself notes. Yet McCain has campaigned with Bush and allowed his image on Bush ads.

If McCain wants to campaign against the politics of personal destruction, then he needs to cast his lot elsewhere or remain neutral."

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/8/5/114044/0656

Namaste

No, I agree it is wrong for people to attack Kerry in the manner this ad does. And I am sure President Bush will speak out against it. There are more than enough people who served with Kerry who stand by him and we as a country should stand behind his service and earning those medals. The past is the past. Just as John Kerry earned his medals, George W. Bush served his time in the national guard. The past is the past. But there is still more than enough to attack Kerry on that has occured during his time as a Mass. Senator.

JO thanks for your prayers, I am happy to report that due to pressure applied by all the media (brought to their attention by Ann's mother) Cigna reversed itself and agreed to pay for the stem cell replacement for their baby.

As talked about on CNN, the Hunger Site is a place where you can help feed the hungry with a click a day.

http://www.thehungersite.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/CTDSites

Also, does anyone have the birth data for either Joseph Wilson or Valerie Plame? Thanks.

Good articles - and one by Scott Ritter"As a
Lifetime Republican...etc.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/index.html

Cnn
btw that article about Kerry attacking bush for his my friend the goat reading
during the 9-11 attacks was sorely tempered by yet ANOTHER opinion
by a GOP talking head.
That really annoyed me and i shot off another letter to that ridiculous
excuse for a news agency complaining
about it
Why does everything they say about Kerry have to be editorialized by some boob who gets lovestrokes from the bush machine
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
mimi

"lovestrokes from the bush machine"
Ya'll are killin' me with the comedy today!
:-)
~D

They knew....

http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/they_knew_0802/

Not to displace your righteous anger, Mimi...
~D

Tomorrow, Aug. 6, is Hiroshima day. Seems we have lost our moral compass some 59 years later:

As if to offer its own version of a Hiroshima Day celebration, only last week the Bush administration reversed course and announced, according to the Washington Post's Dafna Linzer, that "it will oppose provisions for inspections and verification as part of an international treaty that would ban production of nuclear weapons materials… Arms-control specialists reacted negatively, saying the change in U.S. position will dramatically weaken any treaty and make it harder to prevent nuclear materials from falling into the hands of terrorists. The announcement, they said, also virtually kills a 10-year international effort to lure countries such as Pakistan, India and Israel into accepting some oversight of their nuclear production programs."

At least, to look on the bright side, if some of those "materials" should fall into the hands of terrorists, this administration has a plan -- to save itself. With an extra $652 million in supplemental Armageddon funds last year and thanks to a Relocation Procedures and Support Handbook it's produced, notes Los Angeles Times military analyst William Arkin, top Bush administration officials will be prepared to repair to Site R, the Raven Rock underground bunker that housed Vice President Dick Cheney after Sept. 11, with full instructions on what to bring:

"'Two complete changes of clothing,' as well as a combination lock, flashlight, two towels and a 'small box of washing powder.' The government will provide lodging, but it draws the line at detergent. Nor does the installation accommodate those who like a late dinner: Its dining facility, known as 'Granite Cove,' closes at 5 p.m."

ooops! Forgot to add the site where you can read the entire article above:

http://tomdispatch.com

Bush refuses to prosecute leaks....

http://www.misleader.org/daily_mislead/Read.asp?fn=df08052004.html

For some hard numbers on the comparitive effects of Republican and Democratic administrations on the US economy, this article at the Washington Post has some significant data.

The Post requires that you sign in to see their articles; since I prefer not to do that, I use the login from the Daily Kos website (he encourages you to do this, so I'm not giving anything away). Sign in with the email address "kos@dailykos.com" and use the password "dailykos" and you can see this.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A29205-2004Jul30.html?referrer%3Demailarticlepg

and by the way, Daily Kos is a superb political blog that I highly recommend - keeps track of a lot of "minor" Senate/House races and can be highly entertaining!

Some of us maybe still considering who we are going to vote for but most of us on this site know who we are NOT voting for, in that spirit and in the spirit of liberals everywhere who felt they had to bow to the GOP Bullies for the last 4 years, take a look at this and smile for those brave souls.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040805/ap_on_el_pr/kennebunkport_kerry_1

Sally, THAT'S the kind of moxie needed to win!

Sally,
Interestingly enough, those "GOP bullies" as you like to call them, are going to surprise you again by not only winning again this year, but most likely winning by a landslide.

I'm excited. I've got my tickets to the Kerry/Edwards rally in KC tomorrow evening.

Got this info off DU today. The love of money overrides any ethical considerations, doesn't it?

Rumsfailed's firm, ABB (which doesn't stand for Anybody But Bush) sold PRK nuclear stuff while Rumsfailed was with ABB:
http://www.abb.com/global/abbzh/abbzh251.nsf?OpenDataba...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/korea/article/0,2763,952289,0...
http://www.abb.com/global/abbzh/abbzh251.nsf!OpenDataba...

And the Rev Moon, good friends with Smirky's parents, sold PRK warships:
http://www.gorenfeld.net/blog/2004/08/rev-moons-submari...

I very strongly recommend www.mmacycles.com. It's a financial astrology site, but it's great for macro predictions as well. There's a new one every Friday nite re: the upcoming week and beyond. I've found it to be amazingly accurate and, btw, it's made me money too

excellent washington post article, which by the way was a LA Times article before that.
It proves that anyone who is not a millionaire is a fool if he votes GOP.
and every day there are less fools, as they wake up one by one blink blink!
mimi

I feel like today was a good day. Bush got knocked down a few...and politically, it's going to be hard for him to shake. I don't know if it will change the outcome of the election but today was a good day.

I feel very stupid, but I don't know how to put a website addy you can just click on. See me post 2 back. Can some kind soul tell me again pls?

I wholeheartedly agree, Abilene.
~D

Hey Teg,
just put http:// in the front and it will be a link

tyvvm, mimi Site was http://www.mmacycles.com

It worked!! Hallelujah! Thanks again, mimi :-)

major shift in the works. count on it. bush is speaking directly from his id, unfiltered. the subconscious is the friend of democracy. cathryn harris announces terror alert for carmel in (lovely town) and needlessly scares a million hoosiers in indianapolis. mccain does his thing (don't want him mad at me). nancy staying home for good. AND MSNBC puts ron reagan next to jim scarborough on the nightly show. that is a bow to US. aug. 6, bad day for mass murderers!

Unfortunately Bush remark meet the criterio of being a Fraudian slip, which means that he meant exactly what he said. I saw the clip and he looked like a sneeky child.

I find it more scary than funny. It may not be concious on his part, but he sure meant it unconciously.

Think about it, it is a true statement.

Jean

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A41049-2004Aug4.html

Riggs Investigation Prompts Inquiry Into 3 Oil Firms

finally--a chart of "coincidences"!!!
posted with love in blue for all!!!!

http://juliusblog.blogspot.com/2004_08_01_juliusblog_archive.html#109156476570482138

enjoy! :)

TERESA: I am so excited for you, you will have to report back.

GERRY: Great time-line and it's fascinating to go over this astrologically.

Please pardon my ignorance, Sally, but where is this snippet of a conversation from?

Unfortunately Bush remark meet the criterio of being a Fraudian slip, which means that he meant exactly what he said. I saw the clip and he looked like a sneeky child.

Anybody have any idea what he was suppose to say?

Sally, et al.

The astrologers on this site had mentioned a bit of a "down time" for Kerry the first two weeks of August, I think, due perhaps to some "scandal". Well, I just saw on CNN a story about that commercial made with those Veterans who never served with Kerry questioning his honesty and integrity. In the first few weeks of this assault, it MAY get some traction with the Public. Does anyone remember when this period ends and the light goes back onto Bush?

Here's a meme to start:
GW is AFRAID!! AFRAID AFRAID AFRAID!
he won't let anyone near him without an invitation. He stumps to ONLY supporters (how's THAT supposed to win votes?) FURTHER, if only supporters can come see him, how is he going to get MORE votes?
Houston, I think we have a problem.
Georgie is afraid! and that's not very presidential.. Share this one, fellow letter writers!
M

Mimi,
If the left does nothing but demean you, heckle you, and wants nothing more than to HATE your guts, what would YOU do? I sure as hell wouldn't invite such a disruptive group of people to MY campaign speechs, and nor should he.

mimi, he did speak before non-supporters and apparently it was pathetic. Go to Democratic Underground (see right-hand side bar under "Political News"), click on General Forum and scroll until you hit the topic about Bush on C-SPAN2. He blew it big time. Unfortunately, few people will see it. Have a nice day.

BREAKING: U.S. Warplanes Pound Iraq Holy City; 50 Killed in Fighting
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/080704Z.shtm

Yeah, in clashes with Al Sadr. I am really interested in seeing a natal chart for Al Sadr.

This is far scarier.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/08/06/MNGUT83SSA1.DTL

Shylurker,
I can't find "political news" in the right sidebar. could you find me a link?
thanks
Mimi

Here you go Mimi.

http://tinyurl.com/6zp2l

So much negativity from the left is on display for all to see on this forum. It may not be worth wasting my time here anymore, because you are all obviously a lost cause. Anyone who goes so far out of their way to demean another individual deserves no sympathy, no respect, and by all means is far from achieving any spiritual advancement. You can hide behind astrology all you want, but it definitely doesn't make you a better person to attack others and it will definitely NOT get John Kerry elected. If your only reasons for wanting a change in Washington is because you have such a deep hatred for an individual then karma will have a way of making sure the EXACT opposite of what you desire will happen. If you don't believe me, just wait till November 7 and watch as you reap what you sow.

That was meant to say November 2nd.

Interesting.

that was just totally amazing.
a real time conversation during a speech.
i wish I could have seen it, but i did
through their eyes.
thanks for helping me get there.
man!

In California it's Kerry 51% Bush 40%. See NY Times link below:

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/politics/politics-campaign-california-poll.html

Mimi, me too! Those of us on the West Coast miss those early morning speeches! I hope CSPAN reruns it.

Jonathan, Nancy's most recent article (just below this one) mentions Venus giving light by mid August:

**In Kerry’s chart, beginning in mid-August, the influence of Venus will grow increasingly strong right through the election and continuing through much of 2005. This is a clear indication of the public’s warming up to Kerry and a perceived increase in his appeal.**

Meanwhile the RW has been up to their dirty tricks as usual running a whispering smear campaign against THK via the internet. This is the same way they spread the McCain rumor, back in the 2000 primaries.

*Internet "Whispering Campaigns" Falsely Accuse Teresa Heinz Kerry
Bogus e-mail messages claim she's given millions to "radical" groups, some linked to terrorists, and located Heinz factories overseas. Both claims are false.*

More at http://www.factcheck.org/printerFriendly.aspx?docid=224

The coverage right now of the swiftboat ad sucks. From what I saw, (before I tuned out in disgust) no one is mentioning that these guys weren't even on the boat, let alone that the so called Dr. is an actor. This ad is an out and out lie, put out by some rich Texan. I'd like to hear more about him, thank you very much.

The lowness of certain Republicans just fries me. The joke is that they turn around and claim the Dems are doing it to them. Unbelievable!

The ad may NOT be a lie, but the fact it questions John Kerry's character as it does, particularly for militairy service is appalling. Attacking individual's as this ad does, and many other liberal democrat ads do to George Bush is dispicable.

Racist wins GOP primary in Tennessee

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040806/D849H5G80.html

Hate speech is inherently dangerous, it is an announcement that reason and tolerance have failed and only sufficient comradery is necessary to turn that hate into violence. Hate has one goal and one goal only, to eradicate the source of the fear.

WV...with GOP'ers like that it's so understandable why we need to be rid of the Bush Regime and their elitist agenda.

"Hart, 60, vows if elected to work toward keeping "less favored races" from reproducing or immigrating to the United States. In campaign literature, Hart contends that "poverty genes" threaten to turn the United States into "one big Detroit."

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040806/D849H5G80.html

Sally, is progressed Saturn squaring the ascendant of the natal chart of this site?

Pat C, very funny. I don't think my appearance was determined by that anymore than my disappearance will be dictated by the pass of Saturn.

Morgana, Yes they will repeat the Bushbaby flubs on CSpan. I copied the latest entry on the threat at DU for you.
Nightowl said:
Tentative Repeat of Bush speech, could be CSPAN or CSPAN2:
Friday (8/6/2004) approx. 5:00pm PST / 8:00pm EST

Scheduled Repeat of both speeches: CSPAN
Saturday (8/7/2004) at 2:00pm PST / 5:00pm EST

When I asked the guy who answered the phone if they would be repeating Bush's speech, he said they always replayed speeches when "so many interesting things are said." Very sarcastic tone. I took it to mean that Bush was a total screw-up.

And I forgot, there is a book coming out next week (mercury Rx, ummmmmm) by John O'Neill that fueled by the Drudge Report is now #1 over at Amazon.com. Kos had the scoop on O'Neill back in April.

Gives his birthdate, (would mercury quincunx neptune affect one's ability to tell the truth?)
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/4/21/172634/848

yes, let's not let our hatred make us go out of way to watch any of those speechs will we, it isn't like we are going to even try to convey the slightest bit to anyone else that we are in any way biased. Here we are sitting here, with nothing better to do, then to make outselves look like saints by knocking the leader of the free world, and to use this to somehow boost our egos. I guess it is true, with people with these sorts of opinions and beliefs, no wonder the world sees us as arrogant and opinionated.

Key Figure in Anti-Kerry Book Recants; Admits He Lied
By Staff and Wire Reports
Aug 6, 2004, 08:41
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4985.shtml

"Hey Joe" why exactly are you posting here if you don't believe in astrology?

Just a basic question, and I expect your answer to be this or some variation: "To balance out the left wing hatred of a good and decent man", with no astrological aspects or facts to back it up.

Take it away, Joe, now rip into me and go off on Liberals in general.....

Garry,
I am not going off on liberals. And I never said I didn't believe in astrology. What I said is astrology is subject to interpretation. And people are human, they make errors. It is VERY possible astrologers are reading into their interpretations their political hopes for the future and outcome of the election. The truth of the matter is Astrology can't predict who will emerge victorious, but it can say with some certainty that the race will be close or not.

Garry, respectfully, Sally asked us not to respond to Joe.
~D

Another thing Garry, I am not the zealot you liberals are trying to paint me out to be. If anything there are more liberal zealots on this board than conservative, and I do think it is good to have some balance to the propaganda spewed out here regularly.

Dommael,
Garry is more than free to talk with anyone he wishes to. Unlike you, he may actually be more fair and be willing to HEAR a different viewpoint.

Tokeo Rose here is obviously not cogent when it comes to current event, or near time history. Eleven plus years of the neocon hate fest is all we need to stand. This is the first adminsitration to concistantly enforce "free speech zones".

ENOUGH! It's time to take our Democracy back, and it better be through honestly counted ballots in Novenber.

Thanks Jill G. for posting the CSPAN re-play times for the west coast. TGIF!

you know, it just can't get more real time than this.
gasp gasp what am i going to do when I'm busy (at work)?
and from the podium, you can hear a small voice "I'm melting! I'm melting!"
(let me finish, let me finish)

Lurking has been so compelling lately with all the news flashing by at great speed. Finished my assignment and can speak from the observed overall.
It seems to me that the goon squads are out -and outed -all over. Outed at the Kerry pitstops, outed in the publishing industy with the bogus swift boat book, outed at the media level with the bogus tv ad paid for by a Texan thug , outed on the radio shows as Air America debunks each lie the propagander radio spews out. Even here on our beloved site. I am reading on other blogs that this is happening there too but it is outed. To me this is Democracy in action.

The more the script is repeated the more it outs itself.

The script is so transparent. But hope is on the way... We the People compiling evidence, relying on each other to report and share and out the bogus news and goon squads. It's too late to stop this wave. Too much is exploding and opening up. Air America #1 with the 18-55, the white blood cells are gathering force to heal the infection and not let it spread.
As fanaticsm gets more polorized it outs itself with it's own surreal absurdity.
Georgie looks stupid and it can't be hidden anymore. We are not dumbing down to reach his mediocre c-grade level to make him happy and feed some kind of need in our collective. Good ol' Georgie spoke the truth in a Freudian slip and that needs to be shown all over the place. And it will, it's gotten too big to stop.
It seems the goon squads are leaving the giant wave of the united force it has to face. That's what it said on the other blogs.

This is the fun part of the movie. My popcorn is fluffed, my dial set to Channel We the People.
I love the part of the movie when we throw the goons out, good riddance.

However, what stinks and is so frigtening is the other mirror who are the Muslims uniting to fight off their own infection, the one they caught from us.They too are surrounding the infection. It's going to be very ugly. I send Blue light to all in this collective. Earth will always heal itself but will humanity?

watch it now
http://www.c-span.org/homepage.asp?Cat=Current_Event&Co...

Appears this story is beginning to fall apart.  Former Lt Commander George Elliott admitted he made a "terrible mistake."

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/08/06/veteran_retracts_criticism_of_kerry/

Texas Hate monger Behind the Swift Boat Faud...

Give the old boy a piece of your mind  at his expense, an 800 number!!

RE: Texan Bankrolls Anti-Kerry Vets Group

It is an outrage what Texan millionaire, Bob J. Perry, is doing (See article below). 

A veteran friend of mine did a public records search (information accessible to the public)

on this wealthy Houston homebuilder, prolific and major $$ Republican contributor,

so folks could contact him with their comments and opinions.  Unfortunately, my friend

could not find an email address for Bob J. Perry, but you can still contact him via

phone, FAX, and written correspondence below.

Bob J. Perry

Address: 18626 Barbuda Lane, Houston, TX, 77058-4008

Work :  Perry Homes, Toll Free Number 1-800-247-3779 or 713-948-7700 / FAX #: 713-947-8173

Work Address: Perry Homes, P. O. Box 34153, Houston, TX, 77234-4153

Web-site: http://www.perryhomes.com/

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040805/ap_on_el_pr/republican_donor

Texan Bankrolls Anti-Kerry Vets Group

WASHINGTON - A wealthy Texan and prolific Republican donor is helping bankroll a television ad assailing Democrat John Kerry's decorated military record in the Vietnam War.

Houston homebuilder Bob J. Perry of "Perry Homes", which he established in January of 1969, has donated at least $100,000 to Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, a suburban Washington-based group airing a new ad in which Vietnam veterans who served on swiftboats accuse the Democratic presidential nominee of lying about his war record.

The group bought $500,000 of airtime for the 60-second ad to air in the battleground states of Wisconsin, Ohio, and West Virginia.

The effort is reminiscent of a 2000 effort that helped drive George W. Bush's then-rival John McCain from the presidential race.

Perry's June donation accounted for most of the $158,750 that Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, founded in April, reported raising as of June 30. John Krugh, a spokesman for Perry Homes, declined to comment on Perry's contribution.

"This is a personal action on his part," Krugh said Thursday. "We don't participate in media interviews."

Perry didn't immediately respond to a message seeking comment.

Last year, Perry Homes donated $10,000 to the Republican Governors Association. Perry has given at least $260,000 to Republican candidates and party committees on the federal level from the 1999-2000 election cycle to the current cycle, according to donation data compiled by the nonpartisan Political Money Line.

Perry's donations in the 2003-04 cycle include $10,000 to the pro-Republican Club for Growth political group and at least $19,250 to federal candidates and party committees, including $2,000 to Bush's re-election effort.

He is also a major giver in Texas. A 2002 study by the campaign finance watchdog group Texans for Public Justice ranked Perry as the No. 3 donor in the state that election cycle, with at least $1.5 million in contributions to Republican candidates and political action committees in Texas.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5594697/site/newsweek/

A Clockwork Orange Alert?

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/localnews/content/local_news/epaper/2004/08/06/s5c_voters_0806.html

With two months left to register for the 2004 presidential election, there are nearly 50,000 more registered voters in Palm Beach County than there were for the 2000 election.

There are 705,020 voters signed up to cast ballots in the contest between President Bush and Sen. John Kerry, according to the Palm Beach County Supervisor of Elections Office.
That's up from 658,837 in 2000.

The number of registered Republicans has decreased in the past four years, while the number of Democrats and others has increased.

So far, there are 228,119 registered Republicans, down from 231,626 in 2000. There are 317,881 registered Democrats, up from 296,626 in 2000. The number of voters registered to other parties or no party is 159,020, up from 131,089 in 2000.

The deadline to register to vote in Nov. 2 elections is Oct. 4. The deadline for registering for the Aug. 31 primaries has passed.

The Perry Homes 800 number mail box is FULL!!!!! Guess a lot of angry people have found his number as well!

Great news about the Florida voter registration. Wonder how Jeb is going to disenfranchise them THIS time.

Thanks for that Perry info Pat C.
Also recommend that you send that article and the other calling, writing and email info you listed to DU (a big wide audience) and Air America at http://www.airamericaradio.com. Would not want to work at Perry Homes today.

Wonder if the bogus swift boat story was the Aug surprise the *thugs were going to humiliate Kerry with? Oh brother.

What does George Elliot think, he can just say ooops, after nationally slandering Kerry? Like 'oh I'm in trouble now'. BFD, what? So someone is going to slap you in irons George Elliot? Fine you millions of dollars? No none of the above. Apology, retraction, the damage is done. Bullpucky.

Veteran Backs Off Attack on Kerry's War Record

BOSTON (Reuters) - John Kerry (news - web sites)'s commanding officer in Vietnam has backed away from attacks on the Democratic presidential candidate, saying he made a mistake in accusing the U.S. senator of having lied about his wartime record.

George Elliott, who was one of Kerry's superiors in Vietnam when he was awarded medals for heroic actions, had signed an affidavit suggesting Kerry did not deserve the Silver Star.

In the document, Elliott said, "I was never informed that he had simply shot a wounded, fleeing Viet Cong in the back."

But in Friday's Boston Globe, Elliott said: "It was a terrible mistake probably for me to sign the affidavit with those words. I'm the one in trouble here."

Elliott told the newspaper he thinks Kerry did deserve the medal.

"I still don't think he (Kerry) shot the guy in the back," Elliott is quoted as saying in the Globe.

~ snip ~

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=615&e=2&u=/nm/20040806/pl_nm/campaign_kerry_vietnam_dc

Drudge (ick) has a story posted now that the Swiftboat Veterans for Truth are retracting Elliot's statement to the Boston Globe. No quote from Elliot this time though.

Delightful 'toon making the rounds... sent me by Suzy in the UK. http://www.2dtv.co.uk/movie/arnie_and_bush.htm

I'd be more interested in seeing how many of those swiftboat people who stand behind Kerry are actually being paid by Soros to support him. Might be something worth looking into, if people are going to keep insisting that Republicans are the only ones wrong.

This is an excellent aid in studying past transits for this administration.

http://img57.exs.cx/img57/7638/aproval_vs_alert_chart.gif

Bush speech to Unity repeated today at 4:14PM
EDT...

http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/schedule.csp

Buzzflash interview with Krugman

http://www.buzzflash.com/interviews/04/08/int04041.html

Oops - he's on right now 3:30PM ET...

that should be 3:50PM...8/6/04

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/08/06/paranoia/index.html

Protection -- or paranoia?
Why is the Secret Service treating harmless professors and pacifist homeless advocates like they're members of al-Qaida?

http://www.americanprogressaction.org/site/pp.asp?c=klLWJcP7H&b=100480#7

Under the Radar

Jonathan,
It is possible I missed a posting of Perry Homes 800 number. . .If you have it could you please post or re-post? I just finished calling the WhiteHouse with my opinion of those vile attack ads on John Kerry's military service. . .(I'd suggest all to do so, if you haven't already) My father is a Vietnam vet and he is just furious. He doesn't like the fact that this Perry guy has been able to pit veteran against veteran. He thinks it is a disgrace to defame anyone that has put their life on the line in anyway for his country. Also, my Grandfather a (staunch Republican) and decorated Korean War vet that fought at the Battle of Pork Chop Hill thinks those ad stink too! Maybe they will have the opposite effect from what was intended.

Here's an interesting story - kinda out there, but within the realm of reasonable science. The gist is that cell towers are being erected nationally, but camouflaged to look like something else, i.e., flagpole, pine tree, etc. and the potential for electromagnetic energy being used to 'control' behavior.

http://www.lightwatcher.com/culturejam/stealth_towers.html

here's the info from the earlier Post. Thanks to whoever first posted it. :-)

Bob J. Perry

Address: 18626 Barbuda Lane, Houston, TX, 77058-4008

Work : Perry Homes, Toll Free Number 1-800-247-3779 or 713-948-7700 / FAX #: 713-947-8173

Work Address: Perry Homes, P. O. Box 34153, Houston, TX, 77234-4153

Web-site: http://www.perryhomes.com/

Just read Pats post with information requested-Thanks all. . .will get busy calling,writing etc. . .

Kap,
Yes it is a disgrace, but calling the white house probably won't achieve much since they have nothing to do with it. You can try that 1800 number and see if you can get them to stop. Then again, I don't see how this ad is any different than some of the mud slung earlier this year by moveon.org.

I found this published from Boise Idaho:
http://www.boiseweekly.com/comments.php?id=2959_0_1_0_C

"self-defined moderate Boisean Patricia Rich says, “MoveOn is so organized and quick to draw attention to the injustices occurring under the present administration. What is most impressive is the degree of honesty and accuracy I have seen. While right-wing media and talk shows exaggerate and mislead, I have never seen anything I felt was overstated or ‘spun."

We Knew There'd Be Scandals

http://www.failureisimpossible.com/needtoknow/scandals.htm

hey joe,
defending your cronies/burglars in WH is of no use
corrupt liars from these cons-from nixon to the current burglars,liars,corrupt cronies from shrub,cheny,rummy their time is coming up fast.The
countdown for the knockout punch from the Democrats-Kerry and Edwards is coming up any time now.See the economy in the utter dumps, stock market in the tiolet, Iraq in a total quagmire-deaths of soldiers from here reaching thousands.
Its all over joe, just ranting here, won't help you and other cons,even mud slinging won't help;
the mud will splash right back on your cons' faces

U.S.: ASHCROFT CONSIDERING PARTIAL REINSTATEMENT OF BILL OF RIGHTS, says Andy Borowitz

Attorney General John Ashcroft announced today that he was considering a "partial reinstatement" of the Bill of Rights, reversing his long-held opposition to reinstating them in any form. The Attorney General said that the partial re-opening of the Statue of Liberty had inspired him to consider a partial reinstatement of the first ten amendments to the U.S. Constitution which, except for the right to bear arms, were mothballed during the first year of the Bush administration. “Much like Lady Liberty, the Bill of Rights is an American institution that a lot of our citizens, rightly or wrongly, have a sentimental attachment to," Mr. Ashcroft said. "They should be permitted to visit those rights from time to time.” Under Mr. Ashcroft's plan, such long-suspended rights as freedom of speech would be in effect Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays from 10 until 5.

He said that such other rights as freedom of assembly would not be officially reinstated but might be brought back as a "premium service" of the Constitution, available to some Americans for a reasonable monthly fee. Constitutional law expert Harland Bolton of the University of Minnesota criticized the Ashcroft proposal, saying, “While I welcome any return of the Bill of Rights, I seriously doubt that the framers of the constitution ever imagined that those rights would be subject to summer hours.” Mr. Ashcroft said that Mr. Bolton and others were welcome to criticize his proposal, “so long as they don't do it on Tuesday or Thursday.” Elsewhere, presidential candidate Ralph Nader today unveiled his official campaign slogan, “Hemp is on the way.” Andy Borowitz

http://www.unobserver.com/index.php?pagina=layout4.php&id=1849&blz=1

somebody needs a girlfriend....

This from Steve Clemons, The Washington Note:

THE FLORIDA REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION DELEGATION members are being kept secret. A UPI newstrack story reports that Florida Republicans have refused to release the names of the state's delegates to the national convention in New York...

According the story, Forida party spokesman Joseph Agostini reported to the Miami Herald that "some delegates are not comfortable speaking and don't want their information given out, and we've honored their requests. Our priority is putting the interests and welfare of our delegates first."

What's the deal???

OMG Jo!

"hey joe,
defending your cronies/burglars in WH is of no use
corrupt liars from these cons-from nixon to the current burglars,liars,corrupt cronies from shrub,cheny,rummy their time is coming up fast.The
countdown for the knockout punch from the Democrats-Kerry and Edwards is coming up any time now.See the economy in the utter dumps, stock market in the tiolet, Iraq in a total quagmire-deaths of soldiers from here reaching thousands.
Its all over joe, just ranting here, won't help you and other cons,even mud slinging won't help;
the mud will splash right back on your cons' faces"

That is just it, the economy isn't in the dumps, the stock market isn't in the toilet. Iraq is FAR better off than anything you will hear on the news. Actually, you have yet to hear me even begin a rant. I could rant and rave just as much as anyone on here, except I know my candidate is going to win, so there is no reason for me to do so. As for slinging mud, I haven't and won't sling mud, but when it comes to others on this board that is all they have done and continue to do.

Oh, and another thing, before you accuse someone of slinging mud, please make sure you yourself aren't doing it in the same message you are using to criticize them with.

"RAISE THE ECONOMY THREAT TO HIGH"
by-Stephen Pizzo

The U.S. economy added 32,000 workers in July-A far cry from the Bush administration's prediction of over 200,000.

Baring a major gaff by the opposing team, today's bombshell job report has exposed once and for all the fraudulent claim that the U.S. economy is in recovery. Wall Streeters headed for the bomb shelters this morning after learning that U.S. employers were only able to add a paltry 32,000 workers to payrolls in July — just a bit short of the 215,000 to 240,000 the administration had projected would be created last month.

The bad July news now makes three months running that the administration has failed to produce the robust job growth promised its $1.6 trillion in tax cuts. Trickle-down has, as it did under Reagan, only produced chuck-full reservoirs at the top and drought at bottom. If anything should trickle down it's only because someone's reservoir sprung a leak.

http://www.alternet.org/election04/19473/

Actually, the economy would be in far better shape if we were stealing oil like all you libs have been claiming we have been doing. If such things were occuring, then our oil prices would be lower and the economy would be booming. I guess that shoots down the idea that we went to Iraq for oil.

Oh well, I tried.
;-)
~D

http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000101&sid=abNKK397QwwY&refer=japan

Dollar Tumbles as U.S. Economy Creates Fewest Jobs This Year
Aug. 6 (Bloomberg) -- The dollar tumbled after U.S. employers in July created the fewest jobs this year, raising speculation the Federal Reserve will skip an increase in its interest-rate target at one of its meetings this year.
Within a minute of the Labor Department report showing the economy added 32,000 jobs last month, the dollar lost almost two cents against the euro and more than a yen versus Japan's currency. The median forecast of economists polled by Bloomberg News was for job creation of 240,000.

there you go again, joe(like that other dead con
used to say).For your info, the neocons did invade
Iraq for oil and all that billions of money-all that shrub,cheny,rummy,cunty could steal was the billions with that abettor bremmer but oil could not be stolen because of all the resistance and killing by the Iraqis.You see the billions could be stashed in bags and stolen, neocons can't
steal the oil pouring it in bags(though the neocons tried very hard) What happened to the Iraqis coming and garlanding all these neo cons for the very thoughtful invasion?

Today is the last day of summer vacation for my grandsons... it has been a busy one, with goodbyes to two grandpas and a grgrandpa... we leave for a three hour trek home in the a.m. Great grandpa loaned them a few documentary tapes he has recorded... they are glued to the screen now watching the 'Neanderthals' --- my eight year old soothsayer says they did not become extinct... he believes they were assimilated... I'm beginning to think he's right...

Peace

Jo, thanks for that, I needed a chuckle. Assimilated...good one.

AFP - US President George W. Bush declared that anemic job creation in July showed that there is "more to do" to help the US economy and urged voters to give him a second four-year term.

Now, everybody together, "We need to make the tax cuts permanent." blah, blah, blah

Gosh, this is so predictable!

Bill Maher site being heavily freeped. Go vote:

http://www.hbo.com/billmaher/

Shylurker, when I voted on the site yesterday the "just a cheap political ploy" was about 81%.

O'Reilly called Krugman a "quasi-socialist"; Krugman called that "slander" and said if he is a quasi-socialist then O'Reilly is a "quasi-murderer"; O'Reilly pronounced Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11" a bit of "Nazi propaganda" that reinforced all of Krugman's "paranoid delusions"; Krugman insisted Moore's flick was "flawed" but was made by "a guy who really does love this country."

Go Krugman!

About once a month, I email Krugman and Blumenthal (Sid, the dad) and thank them for their tireless, timely, and brilliant work on behalf of all of us freedom-loving folk. Both of them supposedly get tons of hate-mail (Krugman in particular). Anyway, an email of encouragement and appreciation is simple--and I hope effective--encouragement.

Krugman needs to be awarded the congressional medal of honor by the new administration IMHO...
~D

O'Reilly is upset because Air America is beating the socks off the likes of Hannity and Rush... what happened to his 'change in attitude' - his apology about his stance on the Iraq invasion - how he was wrong to believe we needed to invade... he must have gotten a raise right after the apology, because he's the same ol' same ol' --

Al Franken was on CBS' morning show this a.m. I don't watch any of them these days, but I was trying to get info on the weather... as I was flipping (flopping?) the channels, I heard Al respond to Harry Smith's question about the anger in America, and Rush being so angry in the past and now appearing to be a little less hostile, by saying, "Rush is sounding happy now because he's doing drugs!" I was so glad to hear a Demo zap right back... we're always so 'warm and fuzzy', don't want to offend...

This is war, folks...We're taking our country back... we can't do that by letting them run all over us... did you hear MSNBC is putting Ronny Reagan up next to Scarborough? Kos had a note on that last night...

Namaste

American Markets Tumble as Jobs Growth Disappoints
By Rupert Cornwell in Washington
07 August 2004

The dollar tumbled and bond and stock markets plunged after the US government announced a tiny 32,000 increase in new jobs last month.

The news was a bad pre-election blow for President Bush, reinforcing fears that the current recovery may be running out of steam. The news from the Labor Department stunned economists, who were expecting a surge of 220,000 or more in non-farm payrolls. Instead the real July figure was the smallest monthly increase of 2004.

http://news.independent.co.uk/business/news/story.jsp?story=548773

Top 6 Reasons to Join Air America's Mailing List:
1. John Ashcroft will know where to find you.
2. All our annoying pop-up ads are invisible.
3. Because they shut down the Dennis Kucinich dating chat room.
4. Our spam is vegetarian.
5. You like making up passwords.
6. You were banned from the Fox News website for having your own opinion.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/articles/04/08/05_ridge.html

Homeland Security chief Tom Ridge today defended the Bush administration's decision to rely on the prophetic writings of 16th-Century astrologer and self-proclaimed seer Nostradamus to increase terror alert levels in New York, Newark and Washington, DC.

(snip)

After lighting several large candles, donning a medieval scholar's robes and cap and dimming the lights in the conference room where reporters waited, Ridge read from a sheet of parchment, noting that:

"The Eastern worm gnaws not the shining hoard,
But thwarted turns instead to lightning's power
And boldly daubs with fire all held within
The proud, envenomed miser's tower"

This site rocks! I so so much enjoy all the lively and informative posts!

I feel the need to share something that happened to me today. A co-worker of mine, whom I admire and really enjoy -- we talk a lot on smoke break -(I know, awful habit) but we talk politics and she is always on the right, mad at the Democrats, etc. etc. she is a Republican and very right thinking . . . .

Most of the time she acts totally surprised at my disliking Bush, that I feel the vote was stolen in 2000, she says things like, "That's not true!" or "No way!'

It was announced today that she was leaving her job for another and we saw each other for another break late in the day and she told me, with a very low voice, that she is thinking of voting for Kerry. I asked her "why?" and she said that she believes Bush has no credibility!

Hey blue, do your thing! This is big. Believe it.

Greeting everyone! Been away for awhile and way too busy nowadays to check in very often. Nice to see the great articles and at least some good discussion going on here. :)

Today is my birthday and so I thought I would share what I wrote on my last birthday. It appeared first on Infoclearinghouse, then on David Krieger's fine wagingpeace.org but now remains only on this site where it was picked up (don't know where they are from):

http://www.countercurrents.org/hr-freeman080803.htm

Astrologers say what you do on your birthday marks the whole year and it was certainly true for me last year as this was the first of several pieces that made it into cyberspace.

Its so sad and tragic that so many across this nation remain so deluded by fear and ignorance. From what I read on the net the situation in Iraq is deteriorating by the day and yet most Americans haven't a clue. It looks like in the best case scenario we'll get Kerry and he'll no doubt be continually attacked on both the right and the left for the ongoing fiasco. It doesn't sound to me like anyone can "win" the election for both now stand on unwinnable platforms regarding Iraq and the Middle-East.

I'm finally going to see F9/11 tonight! Seems like I've been waiting any eternity for it. From what I have read about it, I'm guessing that Moore might have been closer on target with what is wrong with America in "Bowling for Columbine"--for it is not just the Bush cabal, as bad as they really are, but rather the whole culture of violence that is so endemic to this society which must be overcome. Real change cannot come from the top. My wish for this year is for a real change across America, and that is something that cannot be measured by an election.

namaste...

Laurie, that IS big news! You rock, girl... keep on saying whatever you're saying... you know, the ripple in the pond, spreads out and out... GO BLUE!

Timothy, rock on!!! Happy bday!
~D

Timothy,
Soooo glad to have you back with us... Happy Birthday. Thank you for posting your article and sharing your thoughts with all of us. All day I have been reflecting on Hiroshima and Nagasaki and it is good to have your comments to remind us of what we Americans did, and hopefully raise the consciousness of some who do not realize that we did not have to... It is part of our collective karma as Americans.

Your article is an extremely interesting read... I highly recommend it to everyone... welcome back and Happy Birthday (perhaps you were born on this particular day so that you could remind others of what this day represents in history?)

Namaste

Happy birthday, Timothy! Seeing there's a post from you is always a delightful discovery. This one doubly so. May your next birthday (and those of all of us who will have one post-Nov 2) be sublime in that the slime will be back in Crawford and we'll be getting on with the business of re-building all that's been trashed in our country.
Happy birthday to you!!!

Tim Reynolds' A Hell of a Day recounts a certain fateful event in the town of Hiroshima:

"Watering her chrysanthemums,/Mrs. Kamei was surprised to see the plants/blacken, water turn to steam. Both Dote and Michiko/noted the other's absence but not her own./Mr. Kime lifted his hat, but his head was gone... Then old Mr. Ekahomo struck a match/to light his pipe, and the town caught, and dissolved in flame.

That poem jumped out at me from the pool of memory when I read the prologue of Dennis Bock's searing first novel, The Ash Garden. Six-year-old Emiko Amai has just seen a large dark object fall from the belly of a plane. Her little brother Mitsuo looks up and notices:

He licked his lips, still watching the strange object fall. I saw his eyes then his whole body turn away from the scene that had interrupted our morning game. The glint of a smooth stone had stolen away his attention. It glistened at his knees in the brilliant morning sun, and suddenly it began to glow and the stone rose up from its mud pocket, which in an instant turned hard-baked and grey..."
---------

The Living Myths About Nuclear Murder
Remembering Hiroshima and Nagasaki
By DAVID KRIEGER

At 1:45 a.m. on August 6, 1945, a US B-29 bomber, named Enola Gay, took off from Tinian Island in the Mariana Islands. It carried the world's second atomic bomb, the first having been detonated three weeks earlier at a US test site in Alamogordo, New Mexico. The Enola Gay carried one atomic bomb, with an enriched uranium core. The bomb had been named "Little Boy." It had an explosive force of some 12,500 tons of TNT. At 8:15 a.m. that morning, as the citizens of Hiroshima were beginning their day, the Enola Gay released its horrific cargo, which fell for 43 seconds before detonating at 580 meters above Shima Hospital near the center of the city.

Here is a description from a pamphlet published by the Hiroshima Peace Memorial Museum of what happened immediately following the explosion:

"The temperature of the air at the point of explosion reached several million degrees Celsius (the maximum temperature of conventional bombs is approximately 5,000 degrees Celsius). Several millionths of a second after the explosion a fireball appeared, radiating white heat. After 1/10,000th of a second, the fireball reached a diameter of approximately 28 meters with a temperature of close to 300,000 degrees Celsius. At the instant of the explosion, intense heat rays and radiation were released in all directions, and a blast erupted with incredible pressure on the surrounding air."

As a result of the blast, heat and ensuing fires, the city of Hiroshima was leveled and some 90,000 people in it perished that day. The world's second test of a nuclear weapon demonstrated conclusively the awesome power of nuclear weapons for killing and maiming. Schools were destroyed and their students and teachers slaughtered. Hospitals with their patients and medical staffs were obliterated. The bombing of Hiroshima was an act of massive destruction of a civilian population, the destruction of an entire city with a single bomb. Harry Truman, president of the United States, upon being notified, said, in egregiously poor judgment, "This is the greatest thing in history."

Three days after destroying Hiroshima, after failing to find an opening in the clouds over its primary target of the city of Kokura, a US B-29 bomber, named Bockscar, attacked the Japanese city of Nagasaki with the world's third atomic weapon. This bomb had a plutonium core and an explosive force of some 22,000 tons of TNT. It had been named "Fat Man." The attack took place at 11:02 a.m. It resulted in the immediate deaths of some 40,000 people.

In his first speech to the US public about the bombing of Hiroshima, which he delivered on August 9, 1945, the day the atomic bomb was dropped on Nagasaki, Harry Truman reported: "The world will note that the first atomic bomb was dropped on Hiroshima, a military base. That was because we wished in this first attack to avoid, insofar as possible, the killing of civilians." While Hiroshima did have a military base in the city, it was not the base that was targeted, but the center of the city. The vast majority of the victims in Hiroshima were ordinary civilians, including large numbers of women and children. Truman continued, "But that attack is only a warning of things to come." Truman went on to refer to the "awful responsibility which has come to us," and to "thank God that it has come to us, instead of to our enemies." He prayed that God "may guide us to use it in His ways and for His purpose." It was a chilling and prophetic prayer.

By the end of 1945, some 145,000 people had died in Hiroshima, and some 75,000 people had died in Nagasaki. Tens of thousands more suffered serious injuries. Deaths among survivors of the bombings have continued over the years due primarily to the effects of radiation poisoning.

More http://www.counterpunch.org/krieger08062003.html

Peace

There was a fellow, a Vietnam Assault vet, & peace activist on KBOO, the community radio in Portland... being interviewed... talking about his work. He said he was a "recovering white male." He talked about his spiritual self- & his group discovery journey... had several huge "ah-ha" experiences... after the Assault. He went thru quite a metamorphosis. Bright Blessings upon him!

Sally, Morgana ---
This is the 2nd Saturn Return for this infamous event, is it not?

Namaste

The UNrecovered white male lethal mischief marches on & on...

*More Land In Hawaii For Military Than Hawaiians

Homeless In Hawaii - More Land For The Military Than For Hawaiians - Part One of Two - By Winona LaDuke, Guest Columnist 8-6-4

It's summer in Hawaii, the state is considering another generous land donation to the military & has made homelessness a crime. Under the cover of the term "Military Transformation" & with the blanket of 9/11, the military is taking a wide berth in land stealing. And, recently enacted Act 50 makes criminals out of people who have been displaced by the military itself, many of them Native Hawaiian.

"They bombed the houses in the l940s & took over the entire valley," explained Sparky Rodrigues, one of many Makua residents still waiting to move home. "The govt moved all of the residents out & said after the war, you can move back - & then they used the houses for target practice. The families tell stories that the military came with guns & said, 'Here's $300, thank you,' & 'You've got to move.' Those people remain w/o their houses, & for years, many lived on the beaches in beautiful Makua Valley, watching the bombing of their land.

"Tomorrow morning they're going to detonate a 1,000 pounder, a 500 pounder & a 100 pound bomb," Rodriques mused. Such detonations are part of the military cleanup of the site before, apparently, any new maneuvers. "We've gone in & observed them detonate those bombs," said Rodriques. More than once, live ammunition has washed up on the beaches at Makua.

Malu Aina, a military watchdog group from Hawaii reported: "Live military ordnance in large quantities has been found off Hapuna Beach & in Hilo Bay. Additional ordnance, incl grenades, artillery shells, rockets, mortars, armor piercing ordnance, bazooka rounds, napalm bombs, & hedgehog missiles have been found at Hilo airport in Waimea town, Waikoloa Village, in No & So Kohala at Puako & Mahukona, in Kea'au & Maku 'u farm lots in Puna, at So Point in Ka'u, & on residential & school grounds. At least 9 people have been killed or injured by exploding ordnance. Some unexploded ordnance can be set off even by cell phones." ... http://rense.com/general56/homesles.htm

Thinking about what Morgana said about transiting Neptune inconj natal US Sun and spin. In a way spin is a con game. Many Americans are suffering now because they are beginning to suspect their trust has been abused--they've been conned. It is painful to give up on someone you've trusted. Some people can never bear to change their minds--they just cling harder--like those who continue to send money to the fakey televangelist even after the fraud conviction. Those who are beginning to come to terms with the reality of how they have been fooled should be treated with consideration. (Note to self: don't say "I told you so.") I notice when Neptune goes direct in late October, Mercury is Square in Scorpio. Wonder if that will help clear out some of the fog?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5626850

snip...

Al-Qaida suspect was secretly cooperating with counterrorist sting

The al-Qaida suspect named by U.S. officials as the source of information that led to this week’s terrorist alerts was working undercover, Pakistani intelligence sources said Friday, putting an end to the sting operation and forcing Pakistan to hide the man in a secret location.

More....

From Maya Del Mar

SATURDAY AUGUST 7

Last Quarter Moon at 16 Taurus occurs at 6:01 p.m. EDT. Both Leo and Taurus are stubborn signs. Now they are at odds with one another, and this is perhaps the most difficult last quarter moon of the year. In addition, this is the moon phase when we begin to release, and that is very hard for Taurus. In other words, there will be a great deal of inner turmoil now. Often release is forced on us, regardless of our desires.

This Moon relates to the Scorpio Total Lunar Eclipse of May 4, which opened up to the public the torture at Abu Ghraib. This time, then, is midway between two eclipses, that of last May 4, and the coming eclipse of October 28. This midpoint is the most common time of eclipse manifestation. The events of early August are very significant, especially in regard to how we apply our power to resource use. The Leo release is about getting excess pride and arrogance out of the way.

Juno, often connected with fear and with victims, is rising in Washington.

Neptune is the featured energy here, and again, whether we like it or not, Neptune is very good at dissolving things, in this case the Leo problem of excess ego, and the Taurus problem of excess acquisitiveness.

The Sabian Symbol for 16 Taurus is:

"AN OLD TEACHER FAILS TO INTEREST HIS PUPILS IN TRADITIONAL KNOWLEDGE. The inadequacy of past knowledge in times of crisis. Traditional concepts are not adequate to confirm the new conditions of existence. CREATIVE FRUSTRATION."

time for levity. for something totally random, funny, and nonpolitical, try this:

http://homestarrunner.com/main1.html

Laurie,
Did she work in your office?

A South Florida Woman's Dying Wish: "Bush Defeated" She Asked Loved Ones To Donate To Democratic Cause

POSTED: 5:27 pm EDT July 30, 2004
UPDATED: 6:10 pm EDT August 2, 2004

MIAMI BEACH, Fla. -- A South Florida woman who died this week had an unusual last request. Instead of flower or contributions in her name to a charity, she asked those who loved her to try to make sure President George W. Bush is not re-elected.Loved ones said that Joan Abbey was committed to her political passions, even in death.

http://www.local10.com/news/3598475/detail.html

A terrific article by Ronnie's son
"Go Ron, Go Ron, Go Ron"

The Case Against George W. Bush

The son of the fortieth president of the United States takes a hard look at the son of the forty-first and does not like what he sees

By Ron Reagan
September 2004, Volume 142, Issue 3

It may have been the guy in the hood teetering on the stool, electrodes clamped to his genitals. Or smirking Lynndie England and her leash. Maybe it was the smarmy memos tapped out by soft-fingered lawyers itching to justify such barbarism. The grudging, lunatic retreat of the neocons from their long-standing assertion that Saddam was in cahoots with Osama didn't hurt. Even the Enron audiotapes and their celebration of craven sociopathy likely played a part. As a result of all these displays and countless smaller ones, you could feel, a couple of months back, as summer spread across the country, the ground shifting beneath your feet.
http://www.esquire.com/features/articles/2004/040729_mfe_reagan_1.html

To the poster at 7:39 . . . Yes, this lady worked in my office. Our office has 65 employees. Well over 50% of the office are supposedly Bush supporters and one is even a huge fundraiser for the right wing. While pondering this one day I looked around the parking lot, and behold, found 8 John Kerry stickers and ZERO Bush stickers.

I feel there may be many "closet" Kerry supporters that just would not admit it. The only reason this lady admitted it is because she was leaving the company.

Makes one wonder!!

Now here is a documentary worth watching.
http://media1.streamtoyou.com/rnc/080304v1.wmv

From DailyKos:

Cole on outing of Al Qaida double agent
by kos
Sat Aug 7th, 2004 at 04:01:06 GMT

Juan Cole sums it up nicely:
So one scenario goes like this. Bush gets the reports that Eisa al-Hindi had been casing the financial institutions, and there was an update as recently as January 2004 in the al-Qaeda file. So this could be a live operation. If Bush doesn't announce it, and al-Qaeda did strike the institutions, then the fact that he knew of the plot beforehand would sink him if it came out (and it would) before the election. So he has to announce the plot. But if he announces it, people are going to suspect that he is wagging the dog and trying to shore up his popularity by playing the terrorism card. So he has to be able to give a credible account of how he got the information. So when the press is skeptical and critical, he decides to give up Khan so as to strengthen his case. In this scenario, he or someone in his immediate circle decides that a mere double agent inside al-Qaeda can be sacrificed if it helps Bush get reelected in the short term.
On the other hand, sheer stupidity cannot be underestimated as an explanatory device in Washington politics.

People, this is bigger than the Plame Affair (as horrible as that outing was). We are locked in a bona fide war against a shadowy enemy. We finally infiltrate an Al Qaida cell, and our asset is burned in a matter of days either out of political expediency or sheer stupidity.
It boggles the mind.

As Juan Cole, regardless of which it is, the current administration does not deserve to be in power. Kerry needs to make this an issue.

More at www.Juancole.com

If indeed, as some believe, a civil war in Iraq is on the horizon, one can find evidence for US CIA involvment, as usual... Juan Cole has been talking about this for some time:

"Since al-Zurufi was brought in by the Americans (he is old-time al-Da'wa Party, and was in exile in Dearborn, where he appears to have been unemployed, before he suddenly emerged recently as the US appointee over Najaf. This profile suggests that he was a CIA asset and has been brought in in part to deal with Muqtada).

One problem with an all-out attack on the Mahdi Army was that it might endanger the life of, or meet opposition from, Grand Ayatollah Ali Sistani. He was therefore spirited out of Najaf on the pretext that he had heart problems. But Al-Zaman reports today that Sistani stopped off in Beirut on his way to London, where he met with moderate Shiite leader Nabih Berri of the AMAL party, who serves as Speaker of the Lebanese Parliament. Sistani then went on to London, but is not in hospital and won't be for at least a week. This story just does not square with him being so ill that he had to be airlifted to London for emergency heart treatment. It would not have been easy for al-Zurufi and the Americans to convince Sistani to leave, but they could have simply shared with him their plans to have an all-out war in Najaf, and told him they could not protect him. That would have left him no choice but to leave. If you think about it, he could not possibly have been gotten out of Najaf to Beirut and London without US military assistance, though he flew a private plane from Baghdad airport."

More at www.juancole.com

Civil war is to be expected, considering that most Iraqis have unbelievable freedom now and do not realize at what price that freedom costed those who gave it to them. If a civil war is the only way for that country to unite itself, then it may be inevitable, and only one could hope that after it occurs the Iraqi people will realize they are brothers and sisters of god, and need to unify in peace and harmony. Put their horrible past behind them and look to brighter more prosperous future.

Did anybody see Bill Mahe last night? I thought Bob Barr was terribly rude to Steve Harvey. At the end of the show you could tell that Barr was doing everything he could to avoid shaking Harvey's hand. These people have no class.

Anyone who reads Juan Cole or Robert Fisk, or first hand accounts like Riverbend know the notion that Iraqis have 'freedom' is more than a lie, it is propaganda... Orwellian doublespeak, the mainstay of Karl Rove and his minions, Buschites, etc...

"US Planes Pound Najaf as Clashes
Rage Across Central, Southern Iraq
By Agence France Press

Friday 06 August 2004

US planes pounded the central Iraqi holy city of Najaf as intense clashes raged between US forces and Shiite Muslim militiamen in the worst fighting since a truce was agreed in June.

More than 50 people were killed and over 170 wounded as the unrest fanned out across Shiite central and southern Iraq, with clashes with British troops in Basra, Italian troops in Nasiriyah and US troops in Shiite areas of Baghdad."

"Iraq has never been easy to govern, even by a dictator. And one thing all Iraqis share is a hatred of foreign occupiers. And, despite the public-relations sleight of hand in supposedly giving sovereignty to a government with no power to assume it, we are still viewed as occupiers – which, in truth, we are.

Unfortunately, we are occupiers who, despite all these months and all these billions of dollars, cannot get the electricity up and running on a consistent basis, cannot repair the sewer and water plants our bombs destroyed, and cannot keep the oil flowing to the world market at a regular pace. Some progress, naturally, has been made. After all, not even Halliburton can spend billions of dollars without stacking some bricks. But most Iraqis live in fear and squalor, and they blame us. After all, we bombed them for a decade and imposed sanctions that were the equivalent of a medieval siege. We stood by while looters destroyed what the bombs had left. We disbanded their army and police force.

If we don't get out of Iraq soon – and I'm talking months, not years – we're going to be as intensely hated by the Iraqis as the Israelis are by the Palestinians – for the same reason. Nobody likes an occupier. Sovereignty, of course, is defined by power, not by a piece of paper, and the Iraqis know the true situation.

The failure to anticipate and plan for what would happen after our military victory is reason enough to dump the members of the administration in Washington. They had to disregard a huge amount of wise advice and be skull-dense stupid to get us into this bloody, multibillion-dollar cesspool. To this day, they don't know how they are going to get out. It's hard to reconcile elections in January, assuming they even happen, with simultaneous talk about American troops staying for years.

In the meantime, the number of Americans killed is pressing steadily toward the 1,000 mark, and the number of permanently maimed is already profoundly sad.

For what have these brave young men and women sacrificed their lives? I think Rudyard Kipling has the answer. "If any question why we died, Tell them because our fathers lied," he wrote in a bitter poem after the war that had claimed his only son. There were no weapons of mass destruction, there was no cooperation with al-Qaida, there was no threat, gathering or otherwise, to the United States, and, as of Aug. 2, 912 young men and women have died to prove that.

Arms inspectors could have proven the same thing without the grief blight on American families."

August 7, 2004
Iraq on the Verge of Implosion

by Charley Reese
www.antiwar.com

Namaste

One can only surmised, but I'll bet the Iraqi People will be a lot happier when they get bushaholic/neocons & their thieving, murdering, torturing multiple military bases & concnetration camps out of their country. Yea... I'll bet that will help enormously. ;O)

BATON ROUGE, La. — Rep. Rodney Alexander switched his party affiliation to Republican on Friday, making the surprise flip in the last minute of registration for the Nov. 2 ballot, virtually assuring the seat for the GOP.

How do these people sleep at night?

Right on, Joanna,
And the US needs to release those children they are holding as detainees... the ones they are raping and torturing... CHILDREN... I haven't heard from my Senators yet... they're probably busy with their families, it's the weekend you know. How 'bout the Iraqi families? Where are their children?

-----------

And a woman who held a babe against her bosom said, Speak to us of Children.
And he said:
Your children are not your children.
They are the sons and daughters of Life's
longing for itself.
They come through you but not from you,
And thuogh they are with you yet they
belong not to you.

You may give them your love but not
your thoughts,
For they have their own thoughts.
You may house their bodies but not
their souls,
For their souls dwell in the house of to-
morrow, which you cannot visit, not even
in your dreams.
You may strive to be like them, but seek
not to make them like you.
For life goes not backward nor tarries
with yesterday.
You are the bows from which your children
as living arrows are sent forth.
The archer sees the mark upon the path
of the infinite, and He bends you with His
might that His arrows may go swift and far.
Let your bending in the archer's hand
be for gladness;
For even as He loves the arrow that flies,
so He loves also the bow that is stable.

Kahlil Gibran 'The Prophet'

Namaste

Namaste.

Where is the outrage?
*Smirky shared info about the invasion of Iraq with the Saudis before he even told Powell and, if memory is working, some of that was stamped not to be shared with foreigners.
*Someone in Smirky's administration gave secret information to Chalabi who promptly turned it over to the Iranians.
*Someone in Smirky's administration (probably in Snarly's office) outed Valerie Plame, a CIA undercover probably involved in WMD work, because they were mad at her husband, Joe Wilson, for giving the lie to their claims about Iraqi efforts to obtain yellowcake and what all.
*Someone in Smirky's administration has now outed that poor guy in Pakistan who had infiltrated an al-Qaida cell and whose life is now in extreme danger.
Where is the outrage?
I've heard with Pluto transiting USA first house that dirty secrets will be pulled out into the light of day. I hope so. It also seems, however, that extremely damaging info already exists in the full light of day and, aside from some of us, it is dismissed with a shrug. Have any of the tee-vee shows brought up these issues?
Oh, yeah, and have a nice weekend. Sigh.

Shylurker, don't you understand, or like me, you didn't read the fine print: only rethugs can get outraged. This administration could sell the US down the drain and you'd only hear a slight audible murmur from the press and NOTHING from their hard core cult supporters. But goodness forbid, the Dems burp and the rethugs are non-stop loud.

Iraqi Government Shuts Al-Jazeera Station
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/080804Y.shtml

Abilene, one needs a conscience to stay awake. It should be obvious by now that many of these people lack a conscience.

Thanks, Janet. I know you and I are not alone. The problem is getting more and more people across this country to wake up and take interest in what is being done in our name and with our tax dollars.
OK. Off the soap-box (for now, anyhow).
I just checked out Merriman's latest over on StarIQ. Even he's wondering if they won't "discover" Bin Laden (or thaw him out if they do already have him) to try and get Smirky, Snarly, et al., elected in November. With that crowd, anything goes, nothing's too dear to be sacrificed, so hang on for the ride.
(Er, sorry. I got back on the soapbox.)
Based on my understanding of what "our" astrologers are saying, I think Merriman is grasping at straws.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A46642-2004Aug6.html

Ex-Reservist Details Iraqi Prison Abuse

Hagerstown Man's Statement to Superiors Blames Military Intelligence Personnel

olice Company in Abu Ghraib prison near Baghdad provided a detailed account Friday of Iraqi prisoner abuse that he says was directed and encouraged by military intelligence officers.

Kenneth Davis, 33, who held the rank of sergeant until he left the military last month, said he went to superiors to describe the abuse he saw and gave a statement to Army investigators implicating military intelligence personnel. So far, none has been charged in connection with the scandal for which seven soldiers from the 372nd, based in Cresaptown, Md., are being held responsible. He said that he has not been asked to testify for or against the accused soldiers.

"I believe the truth needs to be known here," Davis said in a lengthy interview at his Hagerstown home Friday. "These soldiers were led down a path, and whoever led them down that path is a culprit as well."

Davis's statements contradict testimony presented this week in a preliminary court hearing for Pfc. Lynndie R. England, 21, who is charged with abusing detainees at Abu Ghraib last year. On Thursday, Capt. Carolyn A. Wood, a top military intelligence commander who worked at the prison, said her unit did not encourage physical abuse or sexual humiliation of prisoners.

More....

People are awakening faster now because the energy has changed. I'm thinking it's Uranus in Pisces. Spiritualizing the collective to more heart oriented rather than brain oriented as it was in Aquarius. I'm guessing it's why fundie internalization could take hold during the last decade. God as object. God as outside oneself, not felt. Or we would not harm one other thing that 'felt' too.
During meditations I can 'feel' the level of conciousness that exists in all swinging through my body. It swings softly on the top layer of my skin and also inside my body simultaneously. I can feel it's electrical currents all over. I can hear the sound of the overtone that is the om. There's nothing to be objective about or something made up in a book. It is inside to 'feel it's existance'.

Greedy fundies took hold of the collective icon of the Aquarius 'air wave's. In Pisces we will 'feel' it more, why 'MamaT' (and no longer 'gladiator') is the iconization of where the collective is heading.

Sally et al, I know I'm eating up the broadband but I wanted to be #300 this time!!!!

;-) love bhakti

I'd like to put it this way - the gracious south
florida woman Ms.Shapiro had this last wish that
the sensible citizens of this country BURY this
burglar,commander in THIEF in the WH in the coming
elections FOR LIFE.

Janet, I agree with you. I believe there is a bigger issue at work here and that is fear. I think people on both sides of the aisle are afraid. My sister was visibly frightend when I told her that I have all my representative's phone numbers programmed into my cell phone. I, too have been guilty of allowing this adminstration to "frighten" me out of something. I still sometimes hesitate but not as much. We have to come to grips with our fear and for some people it takes a little longer.

Latest tally on projections for Nov elections as
follows - Kerry(51%) and 327 electoral votes against shrub(47.2%) and 211. But it is as of today. Way things are shaping up in Iraq,Wall St.
Main St. economically, all the lies and facade and
under the rug politics from WH, it can only get worse from these numbers for shrub. So, Kerry can
move upwards from 327 and beyond as the thief gets
shafted from 211 and under. So its CHEERS!

Raj,

Where did you find those numbers? I'd love to look at the data myself and see how it's trending. Good work and thanks for sharing!

Jonathan,

The poll numbers can be found at electionprojection.com/elections2004.html

Death Near Baghdad
• Blood and tears in Sadr City

Photo Gallery.

Robert King, a photographer riding with the 1st Calvary quick-reaction force, arrived at the scene just minutes after an attack on a National Guard MP unit in Sadr City. Two soldiers in a personnel carrier had been killed and three others wounded by a make-shift explosive device. Five other guard members died the day before in an ambush there--not far from the safety of their base. http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5634250/site/newsweek/

Yeah, right, the war's over... the heck it is... and our troops are falling and nobody in this administration hears or cares...

Peace

like the shrub crowing mission accomplished, what mission? imbecile? our mission will be accomplished, come November!

Back to astrology. We had those transit of Sun opposed Neptune and Jupiter sq Pluto which makes a T sq with Bush Uranus in the last 2 days and noting of note seemed to have happened. Neptune is inconjunct US July 4 Sun and retrograding toward Laura Bush Sun and the Saturn is conjunct the twins Jupiter. Pluto is inconjunct Barbara Bush Mars. Pluto is 2 degrees from Daddy Bush Uranus. Now this is enough to say that the president is involved in what ever this means. In fact it looks like the whole family is involved.

And we have enough information to speculate on the possibilites.

We have heard that Bush seems to be having mental problems at the momment.

He makes a big Fraudian slip on national TV.

Mental problems often stem from something that happened in the early family dynamics.

The whole gang is in Kenneybuckport in the home that Barbara Bush inherited, at Jeb Bush son's wedding.

Now we will probably never learn what goes on there or what these aspects mean exactly, but I bet it is more than who cuts the wedding cake.

What effects the president emotionally also effects the country and these aspects are like the set up and the results will take form at a later date.

I saw a date back in Feb before the Iraqi invasion that had very big aspects and nothing happened. But on reflection it would have been a time that the Iraqi war was being planned and I speculate that the chart reflects some decision that was made behind closed doors.

By the way Florida has a law that they will break if they do not release the names. Nothing that happens in gov can be hidden in the state. If school board member Jones has lunch with Judge Smith then they better have a reporter sitting there or they break the law. It is called the Sunshine law.
But Jeb has broken it before and gotten away with it.

Jean

LA Times story on the unruly hecklers when Kerry/
Edwards were in Missouri(hecklers shouting four
more years).Teresa yelled back 'four more years of
hell'.I like that 'opiniated' response!

Jean,
I'm pretty sure Bush is all around in crisis. The jobs numbers is undoing his economic policy, his faux alerts based on 3 year old information just in time to water down the Kerry bounce. Ya know grab the spotlight. Seems the tide is running Blue and he's coming unraveled. His policies of failure are reaping him a national whirlwind.
I'd be a happy camper if they found a cure for alzheimers, my mother-in-law suffers so. Go stem cell research.

Last quarter of this moon, let's see what pops out of the darkness.

I'm sure this isn't making it any easier....

The national guardsman peering through the long-range scope of his rifle was startled by what he saw unfolding in the walled compound below.

From his post several stories above ground level, he watched as men in plainclothes beat blind folded and bound prisoners in the enclosed grounds of the Iraqi Interior Ministry.

He immediately radioed for help. Soon after, a team of Oregon Army National Guard soldiers swept into the yard and found dozens of Iraqi detainees who said they had been beaten, starved and deprived of water for three days.

In a nearby building, the soldiers counted dozens more prisoners and what appeared to be torture devices - metal rods, rubber hoses, electrical wires and bottles of chemicals. Many of the Iraqis, including one identified as a 14-year-old boy, had fresh welts and bruises across their back and legs.

The soldiers disarmed the Iraqi jailers, moved the prisoners into the shade, released their handcuffs and administered first aid. Lt. Col. Daniel Hendrickson of Albany, Ore., the highest ranking American at the scene, radioed for instructions.

But in a move that frustrated and infuriated the guardsmen, Hendrickson's superior officers told him to return the prisoners to their abusers and immediately withdraw. It was June 29 - Iraq's first official day as a sovereign country since the U.S. invasion.

[snip]

The U.S. Embassy in Iraq confirmed the incident occurred and disclosed for the first time that the United States raised questions about the June 29 "brutality" with Iraq's interior minister.

The embassy declined to say what response was received in the meeting between the minister and James Jeffrey, the second-ranking U.S. diplomat in Iraq, saying it would be "inappropriate" to discuss "details of those diplomatic and confidential conversations."

Oh, it's "inappropriate" all right. Madness. Just madness.

Want to hear the kettle calling the pot black?
I was watching CBS evening news and the spin for the story of the bogus beheading today by that guy in SF is that the internet is a big source of disinformation. Oh brother. Am I losing it? Something like this makes me wonder if the media/gov't has wind that the internet being the last place for freedom of speech needs to be stifled.

thanks Jean,
Would love to be a fly on the wall at the Cabal wedding. Come on, a highly dysfunctional family gathering, drinking and all. During a time when all their lies and humilating behaviors are becoming blatant to the public. I keep seeing Babs in my mind's eye with a po'd look on her face, lips pursed ever since the DNC. Pluto inconjucnt Mars, makes sense.

You libs are funny. You see Kerry surge some in the polls, and suddenly it is a landslide victory for Kerry. Sorry, it ain't going to happen. Most of the polls show kerry leading within the margin of error. Which means it is still a dead tight race. Second, the claim of undecided voters is pretty bogus. Most of the people who will vote in November have already made up their minds.

Denial is not a river in Egypt. Go BLUE... Go BLUE... played minature golf with the family today... someone had placed something 'blue' in the water around the course... BLUE, really BLUE water... flowing over the stillwell, down into the flowing creek, into the fountain... water and BLUE, everywhere... I found it to be rather symbolic!

Blue is the color for patriots. Yes!

more cheer. here is an electoral college calculator. it's simply poll driven, there is no interpretation by the author. may be a good resource.

http://www.dalythoughts.com/summary-classic.htm

Blue cheer from Mike & Guido. Who else could do that? Happy weekend, all (except you-know-who).

Blue cheer from Mike & Guido. Who else could do that? Happy weekend, all (except you-know-who).

http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/politics/3626075/detail.html

What a great evening and so many people!! For this area, the only thing that draws more is a Chiefs game.

The energy was unbelievable. Kerry and Edwards make a great team.

teresa, thank you! they may own the national media, but obviously kc is willing to report the facts. that's really hot stuff.

shylurker, blue cheer (got the album, had the experience). enjoy!

Did anyone else watch Krugman/O’Reilly on Tim Russet tonight? I thought O'Reilly just blathered on using nothing but gross generalities with zilch to back up his inane blathering but his big foul mouth. Russet just sat there not being a proper moderator, (which made me angry) allowing O’Reilly to do his “Big-Bully-Boy” shtick consisting of over the top interruptions, name calling, and ramblings, which were nothing, more than a big crapper load of hyperbole. How can an intellectual like Krugman hold his own against a predatory lunatic that can only resort to interruptions, name-calling, threats and bullying when comforted with facts? I felt sorry for Paul Krugman, because he is a gentleman that came to that show armed with facts and knowledge, willing to present his views in a civilized forum. But all he could do was sigh with frustration as he endured an hour of “in his face” verbal abuse, interruptions and threats from nothing more than a empty headed loud mouth, a one trick pony, that has been given the undeserved title of serious journalist. The whole hour made me angry especially at Russet, for his lack of control of O’Reilly’s interruptions and rude verbiage. . . Does Russet really believe Bill O’Reilly has one iota of edifying information to contribute to the political debate?

Do any of the remarkable astrologers on this site have any astrological information concerning Bill O’Reilly? Just watching his creepy performance tonight set off a deep visceral loathing in me. “I’ve got to go take a shower”.

KAP, there is a reason people call russert 'pumpkin head'...because he is. of course he's not enough of a person to stand up and point out the obvious; namely that o'liely is a rude blow-hard. he actually interviewed bush for an hour or so without asking a single important question. imagine that. word is he's a little rattled from his grand jury testimony in the plame case. or maybe he got a 'crank yankers' call with al franken's voice (lol). or maybe he got into ann coulter's stash. none of those are an excuse for the behavior in this interview

i'm sure any o'liely's astrology will match up with the freudian concept called: reaction formation...you condemn what you are or do because you find youself and the behavior repulsive; you deny the self loathing and attribute it to others. jimmy swagertt, the fundamentalist preacher who covorted (love that word) with prostitutes, is the perfect example. i bet we find out all sorts of really strange stuff about the bloviating, blow-hard, big-mouth from faux central.

Lunch at the Plaza Hotel. Dinner at Le Cirque. Cocktails at the New York Stock Exchange. That's the least the Republican Party could do to welcome its top fund-raisers to the convention in New York this month. Right?

Yes, but there's just one catch. They have to pay for it.

These supporters - some of whom have raised $200,000 or more for President Bush or the party - are being charged a "convention fee'' this year of up to $4,500 per person for themselves and each guest, according to a Web page run by LogiCom Project Management, the company handling the events and travel arrangements.

"A lot of us looked at that thing and said, whoa!'' said Bruce Bialosky of California, who raised $100,000 to become a Pioneer fund-raiser. He estimates that the convention will cost him and his family $15,000. "A lot of people just can't afford that.''

Don't you just love these people? When are they going to wake up???

The Neocon Republican Party has shown us in SO MANY clear and key ways that if you are not of the ultra rich base, YOU DON'T COUNT in their policies or their events.

BTW. at a GOP fund raiser, a $2000-2500 plate dinner I believe in Arkansas a few months ago, there were no eating utensils. Their clinking sound distracted the voice of der Fuher. Apparently that sound bothers him so much people could not eat, not even plastic utensils were served.

On DU I read the best advice. If you are going to be marching in protest bring plates and forks and spoons and clink away.

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A question for those who may have contact with Kerry/Edward campaign: why don't they just show the clip that was in F911 which shows Bush at one of those white tail events saying, in essence, "I'm with my people, the haves and the haves more."

That spot would bring it home to the American people that this administration is against them.

Janet, excellent point! Speaking of clips...in the classroon scene, 'Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt-Abraham Lincoln, bush is the only one I've ever seen discredit this one.

Janet, send that idea to the Kerry campaign's website.

Another great idea for a TV ad told to me by a friend yesterday: Have on screen the footage of Bush's reaction to the 9/11 news while reading "The Pet Goat;" have it become blurry and fade out to a clear, focused clip of Kerry on the Swift boats and have the message superimposed, something to the effect of "Blurry, Unsure Leadership vs. Clear, Confident, Natural Leadership." I'm going to recommend to him that he send it to the Kerry campaign.

I put this on another thread and it needs repeating.
It was recommended that since protesting is part theatre epecially in my area, dress up like conservative Neo-cons. Go to some thrift store and buy a suit and tie, women: a Stepford outfit.It's for the news camera if you are carted away in a paddy wagon. It'll shock Middle America by breaking a sterotype, that it's not just freaks, anarchists and nutz who are protesting that *. Let them watch their own kind being manhandled by the police.

bhakti,

I remember hearing the Protest Groups actually encouraging those taking part to dress as you described. All for the benefit of the "news" media. It's a great idea!

Gosh, abilene, interesting placements! Are you (or were you) by chance married to an outdoors/adventuresome type who is older than you? Also, are you known as the host/hostess with the mostest on the ball?

Bhakti,
Most people will see right through the disguise. It doesn't take much to recognize disguised libs. You all use the same phrases and cliches.

What a bunch of fricken losers???

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CNN on Khan Scandal: Has it Prevented the Capture of Bin Laden?

The story of how the Bush administration prematurely outed Muhammad Naeem Noor Khan, a double agent working for Pakistan against al-Qaeda, has finally hit cable television news. MSNBC picked up the story on Saturday.

On Sunday at around 12:30 pm, Wolf Blitzer's show referred to it. New York Senator Charles Schumer criticized the Bush administration for revealing Khan's name. He noted the annoyance of British Home Minister Blunkett (see below) and Pakistani Interior Minister Faisal Saleh Hayat with the Americans for blowing Khan's cover. He said Hayat complained that if Khan's name had not been reveaeled to the New York Times by the Bush administration, he might well have provided information that would have led to the capture of Usamah Bin Laden himself!

Blitzer then revealed that he had discussed the Khan case with US National Security Adviser Condaleeza Rice on background. He reported that she had admitted that the Bush administration had in fact revealed Khan's name to the press. She said she did not know if Khan was a double agent working for the Pakistani government. (!!!)

More....

Joe, ( I don't know why I'm even responding to you) if Kerry is already leading and the faux economy is stumbling, what do you think is going to happen in the coming months?
If the price of oil continues to stay at its present level or higher the economy will stagnate. Most analysts admit that between
$7-10/barrel of oil is what they call the terror premium and all of these faux terror alerts aren't helping. So Bush is kinda killing the goose that laid the golden egg.

Even if Bush is able to scare the dimwits like you into voting for him to keep them safe, he'll be presiding over an economy mired in a very bad slump. Of course more tax cuts for the rich will be his only solution. LOL

PS-I haven't seen any responses to Joe so am I supposed to ignore his rants too?

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