Over flowing bowl of popcorn at the ready! Oh I do hope I'm going to enjoy all this!

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Condoleezza Rice Threatens Jamaica Over Aristide
Democracy Now!

Randall Robinson, who accompanied Haitian President Jean-Bertrand Aristide on his historic return trip back to the Caribbean, reveals that National Security Adviser Condoleeza Rice is telling the Jamaican government if Aristide is not immediately expelled from the country and anything happens to American forces in Haiti, consequences would be exacted against Jamaica in full force by the U.S.

National Security Advisor Condoleeza Rice has refused to appear before the 9-11 Commission to give sworn testimony. But she has been very busy on a different front: The situation in Haiti.

Just as the Aristides were settling into their temporary life in Jamaica, news broke that the 15-nation Caribbean Community-CARICOM, had sent a formal request to the government of Nigeria, asking them to host Aristide. Jamaica, CARICOM and the Nigerian government have all indicated that pressure was being put on them by Washington.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/032904F.shtml

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Rice is threatening Jamaica? Way to get every music fan in the country against you. Invading Jamaica, home of Rasta saint Bob Marley and just about every other reggae star on the planet, would not be seen as the Ital thing to do.

"Mon, they're invading Kingston! Burn a spliff for Jah Rastafari, grab the herb and let's go ..."

Not a brilliant move, Condi.

Jamaica? The US is going to invade Jamaica if they don't get their way? Does anyone know if we've accidentally fallen into a Monty Python movie?

Yes, just through the rabbit hole and turn right.

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/03/28/1080412237911.html

US now looking to install a PM in Iraq

Sally, thank you for the article, extremely interesting. By the way, Al Franken's show is named the "The O'Franken Factor," I think that is just hilarious and will make O'Reilly hot under the collar, for sure. I wish I could see his face. I am not an astrologer, but I noticed that Mercury trines Pluto in the AirAmerica chart, and also the U.S. Mercury sits on the ascendant of the U.S. Sag rising chart. Hopefully that means the message will get out.

I missed 60 minutes but I'm sure I'll read about it tomorrow in the newspaper.

Thank you again Sally, you're the best.

correction: U.S. Mercury sits on the ascendant of the AirAmerica chart. Don't know if that means anything. Oh, but I could have the location wrong, which means that is not necessarily true. I used Los Angeles.

Along the lines of laughing at the bastids, I already posted this on the Dean blog, I love it so much, especially the last one:

Bush-Cheney in '04: "49 Percent of Voters Can't be Wrong"

Bush-Cheney in '04: "Over 30 Billionaires Served"

Bush-Cheney in '04: "Making Life Better for Rich, White Folk"

Bush-Cheney in '04: "Because God Wants Gays to Suffer"

Bush-Cheney in '04: "We'll Need 4 More Years to Really Bugger Things Up"

Bush-Cheney in '04: "Because Civil Rights are Soooo 20th Century"

Bush-Cheney in '04: "Don't Switch Horses Mid Apocalypse"

Bush-Cheney in '04: "It's Not Like He's Hitler!"

Bush-Cheney in '04: "Don't Settle for the Lesser Evil"

Bush-Cheney in '04: "I Wasn't Using Those Rights Anyway"

And my favorite:

Bush-Cheney in '04: "One Dick, One Bush as God Intended"

Pretty darned funny, bbuster! I was compelled to pass those around. ;O)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A31890-2004Mar28.html
Carl Rove had a very bad day.

I'm inspired!

Bush-Cheney '04: Quote the Raven - Never more!

The Rove article indicates anarchy simmering if reason does not come this country in November. I can't remember ever hearing of protesters banging on the windows of a politician's private residence. As much as I detest him, the scene pictured in my mind is somewhat disturbing.

Maybe not banging on windows, but the ReThugs did stand outside Gore's VP house and chant "Get out of Cheney's house" during the theft in Florida.

http://www.sptimes.com/2004/03/29/Floridian/Talk_radio_s_other_vo.shtml

Talk Radio's Other Voice

Insightful article, Sally ~ the threads on astroworld continue to enlighten, clarify and inspire.

Went out last night with my girlfriend to gaze at the moon. The stars are so clear right now ~ you could almost take a cup outside with you and drink the moonlight it was so luminous and pervasive. The sand on the surface of Luna was so clear I almost felt like I could extend my finger and write my name in the grains.

I just want to add a comment re:

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After the next attack on Kerry starting next week, they will make a run at his Achilles Heel, his wife. Saturn is going to square her Mercury, Sun, Saturn and Chiron and she will feel super sensitive to the attacks. She is going to have to stay strong. She will be in good company, Eleanor Roosevelt and Hillary Clinton have withstood this and worse. Mrs. Kerry is strong enough I think to take it, Jupiter going direct in Virgo and coming to a conjunction to her Mars and then Neptune will ease some of the frustrations and can make her an icon.
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Mrs. Kerry has only had a few attacks from the White House so far ~ they haven't really begun to villify her in earnest. Personally, I am repeatedly appalled at the "be seen and not heard" view the White House / Neocons / Dominionists seem to have regarding the role of women in our society.

It seems to me that according to some of their extremists any display of independence, intelligence or will by a woman is viewed as a threat. That's a generalization of course, but it seems more like Republican party policy sometimes.

Every time I see Laura "Pickles" Bu$h on the cover of Good Housekeeping or something, that blank Xanax/martini stare she has gives me a chill, and whenever I read her comments on practically anything I get a shudder. She seems strangely disconnected to me, like a Stepford Wife living in a biosphere bubble.

But I don't want to insult the woman and I'm sure (or hope) most conservatives do not share a condescending view of woman's place in the hierarchy of the Universe.

Personally, Hillary Clinton is one of my heroes and Eleanor Roosevelt is truly the yardstick by which all first ladies are measured.

Getting back around to the point of my post ~ from Mrs. Kerry's quotes I've read, if the Bu$h cabal view her as the Achilles Heel, and a vulnerable threat...

...we may be in for some very entertaining times, because she pretty much seems fearless, independent, willfull and articulate to me. Maybe that's seen as an exploitable weakness to some Republicans, but the impression I get is that she's sharp enough and strong enough to make mincemeat of any smear, distortion and/or veiled threat the spin machine comes up with.

I've got a feeling "Bring it on" isn't only John's battle cry and I can't wait to see some of her personality. Then again, I'm looking forward to having a first lady who shows a little more substance than Pickles "Stand by your man" Bu$h.

Look to the stars, friends!

~ Dommael

Don't worry Dommael, Mrs. Kerry is very strong and will weather this extremely well publicly. I agree about Mrs Bush, her lack of personality or interaction is a little offputting to me. I don't know if she is drugged but she acts like it.

I remember when he first came to office and someone did an interview with her and asked her what her beliefs were on abortion, if she were pro-choice and she said she was pro-choice. When asked about his wife's comments a couple of days later Bush made it plain she didn't speak for him and we didn't hear from Mrs. Bush for quite sometime after that.

Mrs. Kerry is a pretty straight shooter. There was an article about the amount of women who are not Bush fans and those women represent a giant voting block, Mrs. Kerry will appeal to these woman because of her frankness and her work.

I suggest that the rt-wing groups named above have a BIG problem with women period, not ust their "roles," whatever roles means, imo. ;O)

* Apparently, they were using a few distinct techniques from thus-far successful repub ops n' thugs...

This angry mob, which successfully stopped the recount in Miami-Dade CO during the 2000 election standoff, was portrayed by the media as an uprising by FL voters. Here are the IDs of the protesters (pic shown in URL):

1. Tom Pyle, policy analyst, office of House Majority Whip Tom DeLay (R-TX).

2. Garry Malphrus, majority chief counsel & staff director, House Judiciary subcommittee on criminal justice.

3. Rory Cooper, political div staff member at the National Republican Congressional Committee.

4. Kevin Smith, former House Republican conference analyst & more recently of Voter.com.

5. Steven Brophy, former aide to Sen Fred D Thompson (R-TN), now working at the consulting firm KPMG.

6. Matt Schlapp, former chief of staff for Rep. Todd Tiahrt (R-Kan.), now on the Bush campaign staff in Austin.

7. Roger Morse, aide to Rep. Van Hilleary (R-Tenn.).

8. Duane Gibson, aide to Chairman Don Young (R-Alaska) of the House Resources Committee.

9. Chuck Royal, legislative assistant to Rep. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.).

10. Layna McConkey, former legislative assistant to former Rep. Jim Ross Lightfoot (R-Iowa) now at Steelman Health Strategies.

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/blfloridagopmob.htm

Sally, your article as usual was right on the money... there is a tremendous amount of "buzzing" and your astrological explanations were comforting... I thought my brain had been possessed! I apologize for the hot air that I contributed...

On another note, I am as you all are, concerned that Condi Rice is still refusing to testify in public and under oath. I called the White House to voice my opinion on the matter and I must say to you that I cannot believe the response to my opinion. The female on the other end of the phone asked me if "this conversation about Dr. Rice was going on around the internet or from reporters on the television." I quickly corrected her to say that I had the ability to form my own opinion and that was why I was calling... to state my belief that the President cannot extend an umbrella over his advisors and staff to grant "Executive Privilege" and that it was exactly what the term implied, a privilege that could at any time be waived by the President. I had more to say on the matter and I did, but the point is, my words were being received initially as some kind of 'report' on what is going on out 'there'---

Josh Marshall has plenty to say about her refusal to testify at http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com

Namaste

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The female on the other end of the phone asked me if "this conversation about Dr. Rice was going on around the internet or from reporters on the television."
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Unbelievable, Jo! The contempt the WH has for the public continues to astound me!

How dare you think for yourself ~ you might have made the contact at the WH refer to her PNAC Official Policies and Procedures Handbook: No person not directly affiliated with the government shall have any opinion or conclusion reached soley by their own powers of reasoning and deduction.

(I managed to smuggle out a copy of the PNAC Handbook) ;-)

~D

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I suggest that the rt-wing groups named above have a BIG problem with women period, not ust their "roles," whatever roles means, imo. ;O)
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You guys are going to keep me honest here, aren't you?!?

Good point, Joanna ;-)

Anybody catch this beaut? http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/8300145.htm

What a bunch of hypocrites! Do these people really believe that they're the only ones who have an exclusive right to quote scripture -- the Jaaaaaysus factor? Unbelievable. I think the religious right fully believes shrub is the Second Coming.

ROFL!! Huh? I just wonder how many will be scratching their heads saying, HUH?

great series of articles Sally, I am in awe of you :) I don't know why ya'll are so surprised at the Bible quotation backlash; the Bushco is going to war against everything. Rush is trying his darndest to start a race war with the Condi thing. Read this about the black pastors: http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0329-12.htm You have to remember their strategy is to divide & conquer, lol. Btw, Jo, your phone call was AWESOME/ INSPIRING!!!

New York Times

MAKING VOTES COUNT
When the Umpires Take Sides

Published: March 29, 2004

When Katherine Harris had to decide which candidate won Florida in 2000, many people were disturbed to learn she was both the state's top elections official and co-chairwoman of the Florida Bush-Cheney campaign. This year, that kind of unhealthy injection of partisanship into the administration of a presidential election could happen again.

More...
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/29/opinion/29MON1.html

Jimmy Breslin on Condi:

"Clarke writes and testifies that when he told Condoleezza Rice how dangerous al-Qaida was, she answered that his office staff was too large. She said that Clarke's position should be downgraded. He would have meetings with deputies and nobody higher. And months went by and nothing was done about bin Laden.

Sitting with his book and listening to him at the hearing in Washington on Wednesday, I could hear stories I heard about Rice in the past. Condoleezza Rice always is introduced as a former provost of Stanford University. You can't get anything to sound much better. Provost! She must be in charge of science you can't even imagine. Ancient literature. Anything ancient. If it is impossible to understand, she knows it.

It turns that as provost she was in charge of assigning lecture halls. If they were for decent right wing visiting lecturers, they were given good halls. A liberal had to speak with one foot in the bay. A Stanford scientist brought out Paul Glimscher from NYU to lecture. Rice found him to be a dastardly New York liberal and they couldn't get a place for three days.

She is now in the White House squalling that Clarke is a liar. If she knows anything about history, she might recognize Clarke as the new Whitaker Chambers. You could look it up."

more... http://www.newsday.com/news/columnists/ny-nybres283726042mar28,0,2994047.column

Worth a read

http://www.nationinstitute.org/tomdispatch/indexprint.mhtml?pid=1338

A couple of years ago I read a story by a Senate
aide that quoted one Senator as saying "When it
comes to Israel we are all Likud."

Well now we know that at least 40 of them are.

http://informationclearinghouse.info/article5957.htm

Great article and great comments, as usual. It is now 6:12 PM EST Mon March 29--anybody who gets Comedy Central on cable you might want to watch or tape the Daily Show tonight (11 PM EST here). Richard Clarke will be guest according to promo I heard today. This morning I saw a recent rerun of another Daily Show--they had a split screen with Condi Rice and Scott (Dubya's press secretary) saying the exact same words and phrases re Clarke--even to the hesitations. Then they showed a clip of Clarke saying that Bush told him in the Situation Room on Sept 12 2001 to find a connection between 9/11 and Iraq--immediately followed by a clip of Scott saying that the conversation didn't take place--that Bush wasn't there that day. Then Jon Stewart raised those eyebrows and said, "Bush wasn't in the Situation Room on September 12, 2001?" (Pause) "What kind of situation was he saving it for?" (pause) "Time to take the plastic off those chairs, people."

The sh*t is hitting the fan, as they say

Senators Say Bush Weakened Fight on Terror Funds
33 minutes ago

By Jackie Frank

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Two influential senators accused the administration on Monday of weakening the government's ability to clamp down on terrorism financing and urged President Bush (news - web sites) to create a central agency to focus on it.

The Republican chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, Charles Grassley of Iowa, and the panel's senior Democrat, Max Baucus of Montana, said the creation of the Homeland Security department after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks had left a gap in the ability to fight financial crimes related to terrorism.

more:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=584&e=2&u=/nm/20040329/pl_nm/security_financing_dc

Shylurker, thanks for the link on Karl Rove... how sick is he that he can't talk to children and calls the police to protect him... pathetic!

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No 'deal' on Pakistan nuke pardon
Sunday, March 28, 2004 Posted: 2341 GMT (0741 HKT)
Protestors voice their support for nuclear program founder A.Q. Khan.

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (CNN) -- The United States and Pakistan have not struck a deal enabling Islamabad to go easy on the founder of Pakistan's nuclear program while ratcheting up its fight against al Qaeda in tribal regions, Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf said Sunday.

"This is all humbug. There is just no deal," Musharraf told ABC's This Week.

"If anyone thinks in the United States that we should be coerced into some direction, well, I'm afraid they don't know ground realities here."

More... http://edition.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/asiapcf/03/28/musharraf.nuclear/

So the hunt for bin laden was all a sham?!

Does anyone know if Franken's show will be carried in Kansas City or how I can find out?

Don't know Teresa, I've been trying to find out if I can pick it up in Denver. I do think there might be a stream from their website, so you might be able to pick it up from the internet.

From alfranken.com:

March 26. Radio. A lot of people have been emailing me asking where the radio show will air in XYZ city in state ZTD. Simply, the show will be launched initially in 4 cities (WLIB - NYC, AM 1190am, WNTD - Chicago, AM 950, KBLA - LA, AM 1580, San Fran TBA) and is supposed to be streamed online at www.airamericaradio.com. That is all for March 31. However, as the radio show builds up, stations will be added (what stations, I don't know). This is usually how radio works: it's not like a movie, where it launches in a whole buncha places. Stations are added over time.

Sorry the web site was alfrankweb.com.

I believe this visuale comment is well worth passing on. . .

http://www.blah3.com/joke.html

and now for something completely different.......... or maybe actually what this is all about.....? (get ready to cry.)http://www.riverbendblog.blogspot.com/

Makes a difference when there is a "face" on what is really happening. I know people, people you would consider kind and caring, who would read this story and say it was a lie. Sad isn't it the division that has come in this country, the hardness, I just don't understand.

Here is the beginning of the attack on Mrs. Kerry

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=509&u=/ap/20040329/ap_on_bi_ge/politics_of_business&printer=1

Poll: BUSH'S POSITION AGAINST KERRY STRENGTHENS

cnn:Despite a week of negative headlines about how his administration handled the threat of terrorism before the attacks of September 11, 2001, President Bush's political position against presumptive Democratic nominee Sen. John Kerry has strengthened, according to a new CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/03/29/bush.kerry/index.html

cs monitor just reported that things aren't going so well for politicians south of the border - wonder what this will mean.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0330/p07s02-woam.html

I'm not bothered by Bush's bump in the polls... a)
we expected it b)the initial respons upon hearing bad news is to not believe - part of the 5-step grieving process - it will take time for the raising of consciousness to accept that the Bush Admin's focus was on Iraq rather than Al Qida; c) during last week when Bush was getting hit, Kerry was quiet, and the Repug ads were running labeling Kerry a Liberal -- our team hasn't been to bat yet! d)Rove machine is smearing Clarke, when the dust settles, it will be clear Clarke is telling the truth, Admin is covering their a****

Then watch Dubya's numbers plummet again, never to rise ----

9/11 Commission Director: Iraq War Launched to Protect Israel

by Emad Mekay
IPS uncovered the remarks by Philip Zelikow, who is now the executive director of the body set up to investigate the terrorist attacks on the United States in September 2001 – the 9/11 commission – in which he suggests a prime motive for the invasion just over one year ago was to eliminate a threat to Israel, a staunch U.S. ally in the Middle East.

More... http://antiwar.com/ips/mekay.php?articleid=2208

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Been watching what's going on in Iraq? Shia' about to storm the gates, looks like to me... Bremmer shut down an Iraqi newspaper yesterday and headlines herald discontent of Iraqi people - note the one below... Iraqis are engaging in democratic process, organizing demostrations, gathering petitions... what you say they get squished like a beatle? Democracy? not allowed under this occupation... there's a conflict there the occupation won't allow... which brings us to America... we have a Civil War waging, minus the guns so far --- between those who want to protect civil liberties and those who are willing to give them up to a representative of a one-party system and their concept of a higher power... stay tuned

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A31905-2004Mar28?language=printer

Namaste, Peace and Light

Interesting little article at Mountain Astrologer about Richard Clarke and the 9/11 Commission

The Powerbrokers Tremble
by Mary Plumb

http://www.mountainastrologer.com/planettracks/tracks.html

How Nancy Pelosi could be sworn in as president in 2005.
Yes a one in a million chances but possible. Everything would have to happen at just the right time Plus Sally does not think her chart shows becomeing president. But follow along.

First Bush has to be reelected and the house has to have a majority democrate composition.
I have heard that if so Nancy would be voted the Speaker of the House making her 3rd in line for the presidency.

Next Bush and Chaney would have to be impeached during the second week in Jan or after Jan 3, when congress is sworn in and elect the Speaker.

If so then Nancy, if elected Speaker would automatically be the president and sworn into office, both at the time as the outgoing president and on Jan 20 as the incoming president.

Ford was never elected president. Just almost as bazarre.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/30/opinion/30KRUG.html

This Isn't America

Columnist Page: Paul Krugman

Forum: Discuss This Column

E-mail: krugman@nytimes.com

TIMES NEWS TRACKER

  Topics

Alerts

News and News Media

United States Politics and Government

Clarke, Richard A

O'Neill, Paul

ast week an opinion piece in the Israeli newspaper Haaretz about the killing of Sheik Ahmed Yassin said, "This isn't America; the government did not invent intelligence material nor exaggerate the description of the threat to justify their attack."

So even in Israel, George Bush's America has become a byword for deception and abuse of power. And the administration's reaction to Richard Clarke's "Against All Enemies" provides more evidence of something rotten in the state of our government.

The truth is that among experts, what Mr. Clarke says about Mr. Bush's terrorism policy isn't controversial. The facts that terrorism was placed on the back burner before 9/11 and that Mr. Bush blamed Iraq despite the lack of evidence are confirmed by many sources — including "Bush at War," by Bob Woodward.

And new evidence keeps emerging for Mr. Clarke's main charge, that the Iraq obsession undermined the pursuit of Al Qaeda. From yesterday's USA Today: "In 2002, troops from the Fifth Special Forces Group who specialize in the Middle East were pulled out of the hunt for Osama bin Laden to prepare for their next assignment: Iraq. Their replacements were troops with expertise in Spanish cultures."

That's why the administration responded to Mr. Clarke the way it responds to anyone who reveals inconvenient facts: with a campaign of character assassination.

More....

I'm not sure what happen in that last post, but my apologies. I checked and that's not what I copied.

Fox News' web site is just reporting as breaking news that the White House is going to allow Condi to testify. No details yet.

Yes, I just heard it on NBC. They must have lined up all their dicks, I mean ducks.

lol @ Pat! Keep in mind, they "SAY" she will testify, and they "SAY" Bush & Cheney will too, publicly and under oath. Pretty easy to just SAY anything.

Anything/everything is easy for that crowd to just SAY.

Oh, ho ho! According to Buzzflash the WH is SAYing Condi can testify SO LONG AS no other WH official is called before the Commission to testify. Throw her into the fray, since she's becoming a liability, and protecting their you-know-whats. Hmmmmmmm.

I came across some good thoughts today, because it is apprioriate for me to be uplifted right now. I hope to share them with you and lift you if you would like.

"Live a good, honorable life. Then when you get older and think back, you’ll be able to enjoy it a second time."
His Holiness the Dalai Lama

"Those who wish to cross the ocean of boundless existence must first consider: “If I am to achieve true happiness, the peace of the teaching of liberation, I must begin to strive in this very lifetime. I must start today.”
Klong-chen-pa
14th Century Tibetan Master

"The flying prayer flags are a constant reminder. They are at work at every instant. They respond to every nuance of breeze and wind. They are designed to fade and to disintegrate over time, just as all life fades and disintegrates and is renewed by other life."
Milo G. Clark

As I continue to think good thoughts, I am also aware of this,

http://www.robertscheer.com

because I want my country back.

The Oligarchy and Consumerism:

THE EVER-LOOPY SYNFUELS LOOPHOLE
Old loopholes never die - they just get loopier and loopier. One such is a special tax break gouged into federal law back in 1980 by corporate lobbyists.
http://updates.jimhightower.com/ctt.asp?u=2226780&l=25173

HOW TO CLEAN UP ELECTIONS
Pundits and other political cynics scoff at citizens' efforts to reform America's money-corrupted political process, saying it's as futile as trying to teach table manners to a hog - the effort wears you out and it only annoys the hog.
http://updates.jimhightower.com/ctt.asp?u=2226780&l=25174

SOCIAL SECURITY WORKS
Let me tell you a story of progressive progress. In 1939, two-thirds of America's senior citizens lived their "golden years" in cold, hard poverty. Just a decade later, that percentage was down to half. By 1959, it was only one-third. Today, the number is less than 10 percent.
http://updates.jimhightower.com/ctt.asp?u=2226780&l=25175

LETTING CONSUMERISM GET UNDER YOUR SKIN
Have you been "chipped" yet? A company called Applied Digital Solutions wants you to undergo a surgical procedure to implant a tiny RFID microchip in your arm.
http://updates.jimhightower.com/ctt.asp?u=2226780&l=25176

POKING AIRLINE PASSENGERS IN THE EYE
I have exciting news for those of you who worry that American industry is losing its creative edge! America West Airlines has just implemented a stunning innovation that is certain to revive this sagging industry and assure profits, new jobs, and happy skies as far as the horizon extends. The innovation? Ads on tray tables!
http://updates.jimhightower.com/ctt.asp?u=2226780&l=25177

okay, we need some GOOD news:http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=mtgcom/daily/dm8

lolol,don't go there, my son's link. go here: http://democrats.senate.gov/~dpc/releases/2004330506.html sorry, I should preview :)

Not sure if you guys have seen this yet, but there's a really cool discussion going on over at Smirking Chimp you might dig. It's called "Warriors of the Rainbow."

Here's the address ~
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/viewtopic.php?topic=38139&forum=3

Not sure how to do HTML. The whole technology thing eludes me sometimes... I'm re-inventing the wheel on a daily basis...

~D

Wishful thinking...... They use Condi to cover their Tush and then she pulls a Donna Hanover.

Eh Bhakti, refresh my memory, Donna Hanover?

Need more explanation for us left coasters, Bhakti. Donna Hanover Guiliani. B. Feb 13, 1950, Oakland CA

I don't envy Dr. Rice because just at the time she will be testifying she has Saturn conjunct her South Node. We all get that "shot" of Saturn going over our South Node at least twice in our lifetime and it's not fun, creating loss and a paying of the piper. This is what the book "Lunar Nodes" by Mohan Koparkar Ph.D has to say about Saturn over the SN.

"This transit often brings about confining, limiting and restrictive influence in life. Things may be going nicely prior to this, then all of a suden the impact of the transit is felt. The native has to learn a great deal through this mild chaos or calamity at this time. Often a physical weakness and saturnian problems are visible; dealing with past issues which were somehow neglected. Others call it, 'you got what you deserved.' The area of life ruled by Capricorn (we don't have her birthtime so we don't know that) in the natal chart plays significant role into bringing sudden blockage or obstacles in it. This is almost like a double Saturn situation. Depending upon the original placement of Saturn in the natal chart, the individual will see the effect accordingly. In any case some tense, restrictive, confining feeling is felt for sure at this time. Dealing with older people, or from the authority and their dominance on this individual as well as pressure from authority is felt here. Physical problems or sudden health situation in focus at this time can occur."

This is not fun. If you place Dr. Rice's Scorpio Sun on the Asc. (that method often works for reading a business chart or career chart, when you don't have the birthtime)Capricorn would be ruling the 3rd house. Her natal Saturn is in a separating square to Mars (and transiting Neptune is pretty close to both right now with transiting South Node just now going over her natal Saturn, (double whammy)

Saturn always brings "lessons learned" this is one of those times in Dr. Rice's life. Mistakes of the past come home to roost. We cannot pre-judge what the universe thinks those lessons might be but I would not want to be in her shoes right now.

According to the latest report from BBC [reporter in Washington http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3583639.stm] WH has 'released Condi' to testify and 9/11 Commission is arranging for testimony asap and Bush and Cheney are still agreeed to testify before FULL (not partial) Commission in private though time has not been scheduled... [http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4623066/
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Has anyone noticed that none of her pics in media are flattering, she looks as tho' she is giving anyone and everyone the "evil eye" !! I certainly would not want to be in shoes either, Sally... but then she has been so vocal all over the media and perhaps not too careful about the veracity of her statements... she has contradicted several officials and I have seen that posted in media articles... I think she believed she would not have to testify under oath, that she has protected Dubya and he would protect her... Not! I posted in another thread that my perception is she has acted like the "Berlin Wall" of Halderman and Erlichman in Nixon White House... not allowing others to get to the pResident... At the least, she has created her own bed and so must... Her testimony will be a disaster... there are those on the Commission just "waiting to ask her questions"

Donna Hanover was Rudy Guiliani's ex wife who outted him about his philandering to the press. It was right after Rude Rudy announced to the press about his love for Judy Nathan and his upcoming divorce to Donna (before he told his wife privately-nice guy).

I currently have Saturn opposite Sun, MC and NNode. It ain't been fun. But as a person who can access the wisdom to uplift myself I have been using the transit to overcome some shortcomings and reconnect with people from my past.
The Universe does not want me in the spotlight so my work behind the scenes is where I need to be right now.

I posted this to an article over at Smirking Chimp, but thought the higher intelligences over here might enjoy giving it a read.

Of course, I had to tailor it to the SmirkyChimp style, complete with stylish insults and coarse language, but hopefully it will stimulate your reading pleasure zones. I humbly post:

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Moooooooooo...

Human beings have a herd mentality and they always will. No matter where you are on the historical timeline there is always going to be a small percentage of the population that is figuring out the direction we're moving ~ the rest simply follow. It sucks that 3/4 of the population have zero going on upstairs, but it's not like this is a new phenomenon. Face it, the political realm is dominated by a few small collectives. A little progress is made by a few and the rest of the sheeple follow if it seems like a good idea.

Bu$h is not the cause of fascism in America, he is the effect. The gangstas in the WH may have tactical advantages, but they only have one brain to share among them. This should give us hope. Also, their greatest weakness is their comfort. They don't want their lifestyle to change drastically. They like things nice and comfortable but it's pretty easy to knock them out of their comfort zone.

Bu$h and his gangsters are going down. It's not like they are working on a constantly renewable political platform. It has one theme: steal-from-others. That's it. That's the trick. That's the whole master plan. Eventually, they are going to get caught with their fingers on the wrong wallet. They can't help themselves. They're compulsive.

As a proud American, I would prefer if my own countrymen would take it upon themselves to devote 1 percentile of their energy to educating themselves about their own system of government and the abuse that's going on. It simply may not happen though. If it doesn't happen within our borders, eventually the rest of the world will get involved and we'll have to work from that angle. If that sounds like being a traitor to you, you need to seriously stay awake some night and do some hard thinkin'. You're a human being first and an American second. Earth does not care what nationality you call yourself and Nature does not hold you particularly higher than a dinosaur or a dodo.

There is no other way this is going to go down. The system of government is BROKEN. Our reliance on fossil fuels is BROKEN. Our attitude toward other countries is BROKEN. Bu$h is not building an airplane. He is riding this broken-down vehicle (that is, US) as long as he can, as far as he can, until it finally gives up the ghost. He knows it, it's not like this is a mystery or anything. Even oil executives know they're banking on a limited resource.

At some point on the timeline, everyone is going to wake up to a realization: find a solution or face extinction. It's that simple. There's no other way around it. The sharper members of the herd, that is, the people in the front, that is US, have already woken up to this. The herd members in the back that can only see our asses will eventually look down and see the rocky terrain of all of us going over a cliff. It will happen. It's inevitable.

We can't be reliant on broken systems. Bu$h and the cabal may have raped the government so that it is unrecognizable. It may be too late to salvage. But each and every one of us individually needs to recognize that the Founding Fathers were just people like us. If they are looking in from across the veil, they just might be saying "We did our best, it worked for 200 years, things have changed, it's about time you guys came up with something new, don't you think?"

oh and

"before you step into the new era, be sure to lock up the gangsters and throw away the key, will you? Can't have them fucking things up from the beginning."
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Just food for thought.

~Dommael

I hear you bhakti... awareness makes the difficulties positive if one is really interested in learning the lessons presented... right now I'm choking on all that's on my plate, but hey, I chose it, at some point! Best get on with the learning...
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Josh Marshall has following about Condi:

"What if Condi Rice, when she testifies, makes statements in flat contradiction of earlier statements by Richard Clarke? Nothing, it would seem, since the Commission appears to have agreed not to "request additional public testimony from any White House official, including Dr. Rice." That would seem to rule out testimony (at least public testimony) from various aides who might be in a position to say which of the two is being truthful, should such a contradiction arise.

And then there's this, also from Al Gonzales' letter to the Commission ...

I would also like to take this occasion to offer an accommodation on another issue on which we have not yet reached an agreement - commission access to the president and vice president. I am authorized to advise you that the president and vice president have agreed to one joint private session with all 10 commissioners, with one commission staff member present to take notes of the session.
Is that an 'accommodation'?

Why is this a joint session? Why can't the president and the vice-president meet with the Commission members separately? Is there some, as yet unexplored, constitutional issue of the president and vice-president needing to appear jointly?

I hesitate to assay some jesting constitutional theory (the two jointly elected constitutional office-holders must appear jointly because they were elected jointly?) for fear that it might end up in Gonzales' next letter.

One can speculate about several reasons -- one in particular -- for making this stipulation. And, in addition to having no conceivable constitutional basis, none of them are flattering.

-- Josh Marshall
http://talkingpointsmemo.com
Link to Gonzales' letter:
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/politics/8312248.htm

Yes Dr. Rice has made her own life choices and made her bed, as we all do. Saturn on her South Node is going to see to it that she will have to lie in it. Lessons though, maybe she will learn those lessons. Let's hope so. This administration, as leaders, have taken all of us down a path of destruction and they have done it without seeming any care or thought of anyone but themselves, that, in the end will be their undoing

Dommael,
If I had the money I would take out an ad on the front page of every major newspaper, run 30 sec sound bites on TV, and shout from my rooftop (with a bevvy of security people to protect me from the mob!) --- EVERY SINGLE WORD in your post above. You are IMHO right on the money, AMEN, AMEN...
Namaste, Peace and Light

Carl Jong said "87 percent of all culture, any culture is herd mentality, 11 or 12 percent transform beyond the herd and 1 or 2 percent transcend the herd."

The 1 or 2 percent are the Ghandi's, Christ's, Martin Luther King, Mother Teresa etc. We work those people to death or we just kill them. It's the 11/12 percent who have the responsibility to try to move the herd forward in their thinking and that is hard enough.

I don't know what kind of choices I would have made if I were in the shoes of our leaders, I don't know how I would have or if I would have justified bad choices like I see them doing, but I am not in their shoes and if I were I would hope someone would say "you are off course" and I hope I would listen. Better than half a nation and
90 percent of the rest of the world are saying "you are off course" so far they are not listening and there is always a big price to pay for that kind of attitude.

Sally,
I do not know what you might have done had you been in the shoes of our leaders... but I don't believe you share their motivation to start with, so I have to believe your choices would have been different, based on the good of the many --- not on the good of the very few... you are exactly right about their not listening to the 90% of the world who do not support their decisions...

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link to piece called "Cooked Rice" or
You can always tell when a scandal is about to cause real damage to a president: The demand for human sacrifice begins.
http://www.newsday.com/news/opinion/columnists/ny-nyhen283726054mar28,0,7356262.column

The posts on this site are just wonderful! Thank you all of you.

Sally,

"Her natal Saturn is in a separating square to Mars (and transiting Neptune is pretty close to both right now with transiting South Node just now going over her natal Saturn, (double whammy)"

Regarding Neptune, does this mean she is being lied to by the authority figures around her?

Right on schedule, as Jupiter moves into a long conjunction with Bush's Mars, his polls start to rise. I think we are witnessing the beginning of his last hurrah.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-03-29-bush-ads_x.htm

A USA TODAY/CNN/Gallup Poll shows a remarkable turnaround in 17 battleground states where polls and historic trends indicate the race will be close, and where the Bush campaign has aired TV ads. Those ads say Bush has provided "steady leadership in times of change" while portraying Kerry as a tax-hiking, flip-flopping liberal.

The ads have been one factor in wiping away an inflated lead Kerry held in those states. Most of them have had primaries or caucuses that allowed Democrats to dominate the news and Kerry to emerge as a victor. In a survey taken in mid-February, Kerry led Bush by 28 percentage points in those states, 63% to 35%. Now Bush leads Kerry in them by six points, 51% to 45%.

Dommael,

Thank you for posting the link. Now and then we
all need a little 'balm for the Soul'......

The members of 'Smirking Chimp' really surprise
me at times. I especially liked what "Squid"
said in your PAGANS thread. If you followed his
posts over time, the guy has been to hell and
back and I was so pleased that he found peace
within himself. He's an admirer of Eric Hoffer's.
Need I say more?....

Love and peace,

Corleonis (no relation to the "Godfater", my fore-
fathers would turn in their graves....)

LOL! Nancy, the article quotes....."Those ads say Bush has provided "steady leadership in times of change" while the reality is Bush and done as he's told the change the times. He certainly has done that! He's finally successful at something.

Dommael:

I posted #1 before I read your post in the SC.

Wonderful, keep it up.

Love and Peace,

This was posted over on Salon in the White House section regarding the Clarke testimony.

Truth from underground
Finds sunlight naturally.
Crocus blades split earth.

I just loved it!

pelosi as president, an italian american chick? i can dig it. did anyone read yesterday that nader and kerry will meet to hang out soon? can i be a utopian hippie and dream of a kerry/nader ticket? of course the south would reel, but it would be good for them, since they don't know what's good for them themselves, we have to take care of them. if it was up to repugs we'd all be killing each other anyway.

great story about rove's house. hopefully some radical will see it, and really take some visitors a-calling. power to the people right on.

sally you mention pallas heading into taurus..can you tell me the dates of that..and

is there a link to asteroid ephemeris on the net? my book ends about a year ago...also,

is there any link to the sabian symbols anywhere?? or must i buy the book? anyone help?

rice has always looked like a vampire corpse imo..but it's interesting how both her and powell play a subtle (if not obvious?) scape-goat role..only rice is in denial as powell seems to know it the whole time perpetually cursing under his breath, or atleast that's how i read his aura.

Roxanne,
This is link I often use for Sabian Symbols --

http://miva.zodiacal.com/oracle.mv

Roxanne,
This will give you ephemeris for asteroids

http://www.astro.com/swisseph/swisseph.htm#_Toc6813662

Did anyone see last night's Primetime? Salon said Barbara Walters was to interview Karen Hughes, Dubya's other half of Bartlett duo, and they hoped she (Walters) would go beyond soft-touch treatment to ask Hughes critical questions about just what her role was in the outing of Valerie Plame. Did they happen (naively she asks!)

The moon is waxing... please send emails to White House and Congress re anything that's bothering you! And if you're doing any media watchdoging, there too... most of the media is still slamming Richard Clarke... please show support for Clarke.

Blessed Be, Namaste, Peace and Light

Nancy, I'm afraid watching Bush's poll numbers rise and move way ahead of Kerry's will take a pretty strong stomach.

Hope I'm up to the task.

Thank you Corleonis and Jo! Sometimes the fog parts and I have a moment of clarity. I'm reading Ishmael by Daniel Quinn and REALLY diggin' it!
~D

I just re-read Nancy's article and comments about the bush bounce in numbers... Bush's Last Hurrah. (scroll down main astroworld page)

In the latter part of the comments Nancy writes about this very thing, and its come right on schedule:)

thanks again for all astrologers on Astroworld! (long time reader who has been amazed at how trends follow so closely to what astrologers here say. You all are so helpful beyond words to my sanity:)

fala

To all those who feel their stomachs turning with the (temporary) rise in Bush's numbers: just think how wonderful it'll feel to see the Bushies scramble when their numbers plummet over the Summer after they've puffed themselves up with gratuitous arrogance over this impending "bounce". WE can see the fall coming, but they can't ... and that's the beauty of it.

Jonathan

Any opinion on the long-term effect of bringing Karen Hughes back? Will it help Bush or have little effect?

From CNN.com:

"(AP) -- President Bush's decision Tuesday to allow his national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, to testify publicly before the commission investigating the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks reversed earlier White House insistence that she would only appear privately.

Some previous Bush reversals in the face of criticism:

He argued a federal Department of Homeland Security wasn't needed, then devised a plan to create one.

He resisted a commission to investigate Iraq intelligence failures, but then relented.

He also initially opposed the creation of the independent commission to examine if the 2001 attacks could have been prevented, before getting behind the idea under pressure from victims' families.

He opposed, and then supported, a two-month extension of the commission's work, after the panel said protracted disputes over access to White House documents left too little time.

He at first said any access to the president by the commission would be limited to just one hour but relaxed the limit earlier this month."

Kerry isn't the only one who "flip-flops." I get the feeling that Kerry is at least verbally showing up his decision-making process while Bush succumbs to pressure and tries to make us believe it was his idea all along.

fala, these astrologers here are amazing, aren't they? Here's another topic already covered, coming true (reporter apologizes for Iraq coverage):http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0330-06.htm

Neptune has already passed her Saturn in a square, from my experience with my clients that square is a nasty one and she's been paranoid for several months. Neptune will go back over her Saturn and then come forward next year over her Mars, confusion, loss of ego, loss of interest. But yes Neptune to her Saturn is an illusion of an authority figure or figures broken.

Okay, it's been a long couple of days and I agree with everyone here about watching this ridiculous rise in the poll numbers for President Bush. It's difficult to comprehend the blind indifference that surrounds me on a daily basis....I know, I know....Neptune the great deceiver is at work.....but knowing that hasn't made it any more palatable for me or anyone else I know. I almost regret having my eyes this wide open. Ignorance can be and often is bliss. That being said however, I continue to watch, listen and wait. I hope Nancy, Sally and many others are correct. I hope that the drip, drip, drip of information will eventually create a trickle, then a river and then a flood to wash away the vermin that now infest the White House.

The point of my comment is not just to rant or whine, although it is a relief to post my thoughts somewhere. My purpose was really to ask a question and perhaps alert you to a piece of information that I have picked up this evening from a few different sources. There appears to be word that Bob Woodward, of Watergate fame, is releasing a new book that reportedly will be less than friendly to the White House. I believe the book is titled "Path to War". It is to be released on April 20th. The release of this book will be preceded by an interview of Mr. Woodward on 60 Minutes with Mike Wallace on April 18th. You will note these dates bracket the next major solar eclipse that is to occur on April 19th. Call me crazy but it almost feels as though somehow this book is putting exclamation points around that eclipse. Does anyone here think this is worthy of some serious attention or am I just wishful thinking....am I just looking for relief from the drip drip and am I looking for a quick rush to the flood. Just asking.

Thanks.

I hope you are correct. Woodward soiled himself badly with the cozy book he wrote about Smirky last year. I want the truth, dammit!

Oh PATH, my little heart is going pitty pat! I will be watching for the answer to your question with great anticipation.

Sally, I have a question. Is it possible Condi could turn on Bush shortly? You mentioned being a Scorpio awhile back. I'm one also as are both parents and my partner. In particular I am thinking of a number of situations where stubborn loyalty was pushed too far. Each Scorpio has different methods of dealing with the internal backlash, but I could swear each time I see a picture of both Bush and Condi a familiar wheel turning look. Condi doesn't strike me as the higher type of Scorpio who walks away quietly. Is it possible a chart would show such a reversal or volcanic eruption?

I think a great question, Cass! ;O) It also makes a very nice Canny Comment.

I found this article on a site called counterpunch.org. The authors that post there are extremely intelligent, and all of them are particularly astute when it comes to making inferences regarding world events and the players that influence those happenings. I don't always agree with them, but when it comes to making predictions, they tend to point out issues which most of us don't even consider. Take the article below as an example. The article also makes an excellent point that we in political astrology should take to heart--that so-called "non-events" can influence the course of history. In any case, I think we may have a serious problem. Here is the text of the article:

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An Occurrence in Pakistan
The Battle That Wasn't

By WILLIAM S. LIND

About two weeks ago, the world's attention suddenly turned to a dramatic battle in Pakistan. The Pakistani Army, we were told, had trapped a large force of al Qaeda, including a "high-value target," possibly Ayman Zawahiri. The Pakistanis brought in artillery and air power. The fate of the al Qaeda fighters was sealed.

Then the whole thing evaporated into thin air. First, Zawahiri wasn't there. Then no other "high-value target" was there either. The Pakistani Army invited local tribal elders to mediate, declaring a cease-fire while they did so - not the sort of thing you do when you are winning. Pakistani Army units elsewhere in the tribal territories came under attack. Finally the whole business just dropped out of sight, ending not with a bang but a whimper.

What really happened? At this point, if anyone knows they are not telling. But that is not the important question. The important question is, what didn't happen?

What did not happen is that a force of irregulars - maybe al Qaeda, maybe Taliban, certainly local tribal fighters - was trapped by a state military and beaten. That is a very significant non-event. Normally, non-state irregulars cannot stand against state armed forces. Once they are located and pinned down, the state armed forces can use their vastly superior firepower to win an easy and guaranteed victory. They just keep up the bombardment until those left alive have little if any fight left in them (remember, these irregulars are not exactly the German Army at the Somme).

Here, the firepower was employed. The Pakistani Army used both artillery and attack helicopters. But it did not win. If it had won, you can be certain Islamabad would be trumpeting the victory. The fact that the battle became a non-event says that the forces of the state of Pakistan did not win.

What does this failure mean? The Washington Post quoted a retired Pakistani Army general as saying, "The state has to win this battle or its credibility will be destroyed." I suspect the general is correct. In fact, I will go further: I think the failure of the Pakistani Army to win this battle marks the beginning of the end for Pakistan's current President, General Musharraf. The defensive victory of the tribal fighters will turn into an offensive victory, giving courage and a sense of inevitable victory to Musharraf's enemies while causing near-revolt in Musharraf's base, the army itself. Before the year is out, I suspect we will see General Musharraf's head impaled on a pike and surging Pashtun crowds proclaiming Osama as their leader.

At that point the American strategic failures that are the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan will have transformed themselves into an American strategic disaster. As I have said before in On War, Iraq and Afghanistan themselves mean little. The centers of gravity in this war are Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Egypt. What is important about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan is how they affect these other countries and their pro-American governments.

Our friends in the Middle East have warned us that the spillover effects are not likely to be positive. That has now proven to be the case. The Pakistani Army went into the Tribal Territories - something it has long known is not a good idea - under American pressure, as part of the current American "big push" in Afghanistan. In effect, the American generals in command in Afghanistan made the typical German mistake: they sacrificed the strategic situation to benefit their operational plan. As did the Germans, we will find that blunder tends to win the campaign at the price of losing the war.

Meanwhile, adding insult to injury, the putative first target in this failed operation, al Qaeda's Mr. Zawahiri, issued an audiotape in which he cocked a snook at General Musharraf, damned him for sending his "miserable" army against the tribesmen and called on the humiliated Pakistani Army to revolt. I suspect the bad fairy of militant Islam will grant him that wish. Al Qaeda's strategic victory in Spain will be followed by a vastly more significant strategic victory in Pakistan, while the U.S. contents itself with bombing an occasional Afghan orphanage from 20,000 feet.

Am I the only one who can see where this is all going? But perhaps it helps to be a German military historian...

William S. Lind is Director for the Center for Cultural Conservatism for the Free Congress Foundation.

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This sounds like trouble. I've always said that our cozying-up to Musharaff in Pakistan would eventially come back and bite us in the ass. This is one scary scenario.

Scary for whom, Dave? America in general or bushie in particular?

CASS, yes it is possible that she could turn on him but I think she has so many personal revelations she has to weed through, going back a long long way, I just don't know if she would turn that quickly. Scorpio's are funny people, you can stab them over and over in the back and they will still stick with you, loyal to the death. However if you ever stab them from the front and they see that it is their blood dripping off that knife and they feel betrayed by someone, they are done. They will never reinstate the relationship in the same way again, will never again trust the person. I don't think Condi would be vocal about it however, but she wouldn't go out of her way to help. I agree with you though, I don't know how well she's getting along these days she is about to be betrayed and she will know it, no matter how painful, she will know.

People who know here and went to school with her here in Denver, say she is book smart but not street smart and wouldn't be able to effectively lie without tripping herself up.

Dave, this is fascinating. I remember in one of the articles I wrote about Bush two or three years ago (it's someplace in the archives) I said with Neptune crossing into his 7th house he wouldn't know who his enemies were and he would ultimately be faced with people he thought were his friends and were not. I think Nancy said something like that as well and I know a couple of other astrologers making the same point.

Pakistan has been touted to be the friend among frinds, and I think this article is right, they are not. I think you are right when you say "this is trouble."

"Scary for whom, Dave? America in general or bushie in particular?"

Scary for everybody involved. The last thing ANYBODY wants right now would be for Musharraf to be overthrown and replaced by a bunch of extremist Islamic radicals with their hands on dozens (if not hundreds) of nukes. This would make for an incredibly dangerous situation. In fact, such an overthrow would probably require American intervention. Think about it: it would be the worst of the Taliban, Al Qaeda, and Hamas combined but with access to nukes. The US would have to intervene to protect Musharraf's pro-American regime. This would be bad news for everyone, regardless of your political perspective. I hope (but doubt that) the Bushies have continency plans in case things over there start heading south.

As far as the Neptune in the seventh house part, I think that could also apply to the so called betrayal by people like Paul O'Neil, Joseph Wilson, and Richard Clarke. But what goes around comes around, and it's hard to imagine that a similar pattern would not ALSO emerge at the international level. But you're the expert on astrology. I'll stick to the news.

Dave,

Pakistan/Nukes/Khan/Musharraf is covered well in many articles by pulitzer prize writer Seymour Hersh and others -- just google Hersh and Pakistan and read at your leisure. Here's a link I recommend from March 1 2004:
http://www.newyorker.com/printable/?fact/040308fa_fact
[one excerpted paragraph from many, which will help you to understand that this is another mess that started under Bush I and has con't w/ all parties being fully informed, except the American public of course.]

"...A Bush Administration intelligence officer with years of experience in nonproliferation issues told me last month, “One thing we do know is that this was not a rogue operation. Suppose Edward Teller had suddenly decided to spread nuclear technology and equipment around the world. Do you really think he could do that without the government knowing? How do you get missiles from North Korea to Pakistan? Do you think A.Q. shipped all the centrifuges by Federal Express? The military has to be involved, at high levels.” The intelligence officer went on, “We had every opportunity to put a stop to the A. Q. Khan network fifteen years ago. Some of those involved today in the smuggling are the children of those we knew about in the eighties. It’s the second generation now.”

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According to Hersch, Pakistan makes Iraq look laughable... in my opinion it is the reason bin Laden will NOT be captured during Dubya's admin... he hides out in Pakistan, which protects him... and this admin has ignored problems with nuclear proliferation in Pakistan, has closed their eyes to it and has shored up the military gov't represented by Musharraf --- in fact, it was American hi-tech equip which save Musharraf's life during a recent assassination attempt...
And yes, Pakistan is scary, Israel is scary, No. Korea is scary, so Dubya doesn't "go there" deal with it, he shocks 'n awes sanctioned Iraq, killing mostly children ---

Peace and Light

Well, there doesn't seem to be much point to getting into fear, particularly when someone wants me to... When I realized quite some time ago that it has been the US with the huge cache of WMD, with the US being the one nation that has actually USED them on populations... to this very minute... with a nutcase installed in the WH with The Red Button (& it's not the first time it's happened), I had to just Let Go to the Living Universe for the Workings-Out. Fear is also an WMD; it corrupts our whole being.

Some would play that old creepy shell game on us, Dave... look "over there" so you can forget to look "over here." We can do something about "over here" imo. ;O)

Sally: Marvelous series of articles you have given us, with this one being the latest in the series. I so look forward to reading this site on a regular basis, it adds a tremendous amount of astrological knowledge and gives the list members, of who I am one, such a unique way of sharing info.

Sadly, I do have to report that the founder of Widgets World, a wonderful free astrology website based in Wales, UK, passed away recently. He truly made the sharing of astrological information a reality, and was very generous with his time and talents. I benefited greatly from this site, since my astrology articles found a home on Widget's World. Thank you for allowing me to share this information on the site, since I know it is a bit off topic, and I appreciate your kind okay to do so.
* In Memoriam *
A truly special young astrologer, Jason Davies, 29, was buried today March 5, 2004 in North Wales, UK. Jason passed away February 26 after a long and courageous battle with lymphoma. He is the creator and webmaster of Widget’s Astrology World, an excellent astrology resource site that has been freely given to the worldwide astrological community since 1997. In these past seven years, Jason collected, categorized and made available on his site well over 1,000 articles on astrology. An artist at heart, Jason also created a series of astrology fonts, freely available for download. Because Widget’s Astrology World was Jason’s generous life work, those closest to him intend to see it continue.

Isabelle, thank you for passing this information on to us. I am so happy Jason Davies was able to do so much for so many and leave here with such accomplishments fulfilled. He and his gifts are missed. May his journey be beautiful and completely fulfilling for him.

Isabelle,
Thank you for letting us know of the passing of this young light... I am happy to know that his friends will continue his work... Namaste

This was posted on Salon.

"Mercury is going retrograde and it's doing it in the sign of TAURUS, second house of the Zodiac, which rules money, investments, land sales and purchases and spending of all kinds.
[ ## All times given are Eastern Daylight Time ]
It will 'go retrograde' or 'slow in its orbit' at 4:28 PM on Tuesday April 6th
It will do so while IN the sign of Taurus. It will retro BACK INTO the sign of ARIES at 9:23 PM on MONDAY April 12th.

It will REMAIN in Aries through the REST OF THE RETRO until the Retro ENDS at 9:05 AM on Friday April 30th.

Signs Effected MOST...and 'in the order of likeliness'
Taurus Scorpio Aries Libra Cancer Leo Gemini Virgo
What type of thing will you SEE happening 'most likely'...

It will not necessarily be 'all bad' but there may be some problems with accounting, banking, loans, applications, land sales, buying of land/property, big ticket item financial approval and miscommunications in general, but mostly for Taurus and Scorpio.

Digestive distress, flooding, outbreaks of food poisioning/illness/bacteria and issues of livestock and its health, supply and price.

Some 'good things' about it: Some signs may actually see 'chances to exploit finances' to your advantage, increase income, make sales of items for MORE than asked/expected and find 'huge bargains' on investments, activities in comodities markets, property and 'hobbies.'
Signs likely to hit this one are Gemini, Virgo, Taurus, Cancer and Scorpio. Much will depending on 'timing' and ON THE ECLIPSE and the events that 'gather in the lives of those involved around the eclipse.'

WHILE MERCURY IS RETROGRADE, there is a HUGE SOLAR ECLIPSE
The eclipse happens on Monday April 19th at 29 degrees of ARIES 49 minutes at 9:35 AM...then the sun ENTERS the sign of Taurus later that same day at 1:50 PM. Let me lay the 'events out' for you as they are 'piled up' and may create a 'domino effect' of 'linked events,' for SOME PEOPLE.
Moon is new [goes from 4th quarter to 1st quarter] at 9:21 AM [still in Aries] Moon is involved in a Solar Eclipse at 9:35 AM [still in Aries] Moon enters Taurus at 9:43 AM Sun enters Taurus at 1:50 PM WHEW!

The Eclipse appears to effect THESE signs 'the most' and in the order of effect:
Aries Leo Libra Cancer Aquarius Cap

Effects can range from illness/accident to losses, set-backs, arguments within family, love relationship hassles and lost pets. :0(

On the Brighter Side:

Many Aries, Libra, Leo, Cancer, Taurus and Scorpio's may see an 'end to a problematic period' in their lives, especially from health issues, money and employment issues, settling of law suits, family miscommunications and 'stand offs' [that have gone on for 'a long time'] and those gone from home returning, be it moving or 'in transit.'"

Hey, Pat: Some of those predictions seem to be right on.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=568&u=/nm/20040331/bs_nm/markets_forex_euro_dc_1&printer=1

Wow shylurker! This is just too too interesting. My mind boggles trying to picture a financial world without Greenspan.

An old friend of mine who departed many years ago now, once told me that the globalization that was coming was not to the benefit of this country or the world in general. As the dollar falls and the Euro rises, I see some kind of global currency in the future. Some see hope in this, but I don't think so.

Don't know which came first, financial bad news or Greenspan's rumored heart attack (which the Fed has not denied, merely states "no comment") Struggling with the still weak dollar, European economies have been declining by the day... with OPEC's decision to cutback on production due to devalued dollar gasoline prices are rising and will rise higher... for weeks financial gurus have been looking for Greenspan to raise interest rates... which he obviously has not done because of Dubya's bid for re-election... whether Greenspan has suffered a heart attack or not, whether the Fed acknowledges it or not, things are happening in the global financial world --- globalization is proving to be beneficial to the very few (rich) and detrimental to the many... the failure to begin pumping oil in Iraq immediately after invasion as the Neocons invisioned is simply another of their miscalculations... their arrogance is yielding a high price for all of us. Prices at the gasoline pumps in America were supposed to be lowered than anytime in past five years according to their reasoning at the opening of Dubya's campaign --- these oilmen are high risk takers... problem is they are at the helm of our gov't and that's not the place for playing games... the future of the world economy has needed the cooperation of all its players... instead Bushites have chosen to isolate themselves and bluff... might work in poker but not in real world... just my humble opinion...

Namaste

Isabelle, this is such a loss for the Astro. community, Jason Davies was, as you said an extremely generous young man and a first rate researcher. I am so sad at his passing.

Thanks Isabelle for your comments regarding this site, you contribute a great deal to any success we many have and I am grateful for your articles and insite.

Re: Retrograde Mercury (Salon)

This is the first time that I have seen a fair
assessment of retrograde Mercury in print. All
you ever read are the awful 'snafus" it creates.

In reality, if one pays attention, it is a time
of BUYERS' MARKET. It is a time that you will
be able to pick up all the things you've been
wanting at great prices.

Unfortunately for me, I am almost always short
of spare change. Mercury is Lord of my second
Solar and eighths Natal Houses.......

http://www.astrodatabank.com/nl/adbnews20040331.htm#newsmaker

AstroDatabank Newsmaker: Richard Clarke

Pat Taglilatelo has pulled off a genuine scoop. She read that Richard Clarke was born in MA and that his father died when he was 15. Using birth and death certificates she was able to confirm the birth data of Richard Clarke.

Somebody's reputation is going to be seriously affected by this Clarke controversy. Bush has built his reputation on a tough pro-active response to terrorism. Clarke is claiming that the administration was asleep at the switch and has actually created more terrorists. Clarke claims credibility from his tenure as a White House insider for three administrations and his statement that he wouldn't accept a position in the next administration. The Bush team claims he's just looking to promote his new book which was written out of revenge over having been demoted in the Bush administration.

"......their arrogance is yielding a high price for all of us. Prices at the gasoline pumps in America were supposed to be lowered than anytime in past five years according to their reasoning at the opening of Dubya's campaign --- these oilmen are high risk takers... problem is they are at the helm of our gov't and that's not the place for playing games... the future of the world economy has needed the cooperation of all its players... instead Bushites have chosen to isolate themselves and bluff... might work in poker but not in real world..."

Abosulely right on JO!!

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=ZDLEWIITDUKU2CRBAELCFFA?type=topNews&storyID=4713747§ion=news

Iraqis Drag Bodies Through Streets After Attack

A crowd of cheering Iraqis dragged the charred and mutilated bodies of four contractors working for the U.S.-led coalition through the streets of Falluja Wednesday after they died in an ambush.

In a separate attack five American soldiers were killed when a roadside bomb was detonated beside their convoy west of Baghdad, the U.S. army said.

The Falluja violence began when two four-wheel-drive vehicles were attacked by guerrillas on a main road in the town, 32 miles west of Baghdad. A crowd then set the vehicles ablaze and hurled stones into the burning wreckage.

Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt, deputy director of operations for the U.S. army in Iraq, said all four contractors in the vehicles were killed. He did not give their nationalities.

Television pictures showed one incinerated body being kicked and stamped on by a member of the jubilant crowd, while others dragged a blackened body down the road by its feet.

As one body lay burning on the ground, an Iraqi came and doused it with petrol, sending flames soaring.

At least two bodies were tied to cars and pulled through the streets, witnesses said.

"This is the fate of all Americans who come to Falluja," said Mohammad Nafik, one of the crowd surrounding the bodies.

Some body parts were pulled off and left hanging from a telephone cable, while two incinerated bodies were later strung from a bridge and left dangling there.

A young boy beat one of the incinerated bodies after it was pulled down with his shoe as a crowd cheered.

"I am happy to see this. The Americans are occupying us so this is what will happen," said Mohammad, 12, looking on.

YAY! Lois Rodden's astrodata bank has birthdata on Richard Clark. He's a Scorpio Sun, Oct 30 1950, 5:45 pm, Cambridge MA. Check it out at

http://www.astrodatabank.com/NM/ClarkeRichard.htm

Sharon

Pat,
THANK YOU so much for the link to Clarke's chart and birth data!!! Yea! Scorpio Sun (this one looks like a rising Phoenix, whatcha think?) combust Mercury, less than one degree orb, potential for genius? MIT grad affirms that for me and his unflappable appearances before the media sustain that... I'm waiting to read the interpretations online, heavy traffic on websites! word travels fast, right! Can't wait to hear from our own wonderful astrologers as to what they think of Richard A. Clarke...

On another note, I share your concerns over how this might all shake out over currency... dollar/euro, basket of currencies, etc. It would have helped to have a planned transition of some type! But that doesn't appear possible given the events of past months... I read the info posted on Rmercury from Salon... do any of the astrologers see this Rx period affecting the economy: oil prices, weak dollar, etc.?

My heart is too heavy for words for the post above on Iraq...

Namaste

Meant to add this to my post above.

Kudos to Sally, she called it right in article above: "We don’t have any birth data for Richard Clarke, (yet) but I would bet he has some heavy duty Pluto aspects or transits "

and I believe Sharon mentioned in a recent post that she thought Clarke had some Martian aspects, so Sharon, Mars is seen by some to share rulership with Pluto for Scorpio --- good for you!

Wow! Both Clarke and Rice are Scorpios. I can't say I was surprised to learn this. It'll be interesting to see comparisons between the two and how each will fare in the coming days.

Reversing course and going back to the public opinion polls, I don't feel that they are particularly important at this point. It is a long time to the conventions and elections. Much can happen between now and then. Unfortunately, there can be more bloody days such as today in Iraq. Anything can happen so the polls will probably be very fluid until the last few weeks of the campaign.

http://wireservice.wired.com/wired/story.asp?section=Breaking&storyId=843712
Can't help but wonder if this could be a foretaste of the complex configurations coming up April 23rd-24th, with the astrocartological emphasis on Tx. We get just about as much comfort from "We'll just have to wait and see" as from "May you live in interesting times." Arrrrgh.

I personally wouldn't put too much stock in ANY polls you read ANYWHERE. There are three reasons why:

1.) Bu$h and the Cabal are trying to rig a national election in their favor. That is huge. You know what I'm talking about. Diebold/Black Box Voting. Think about what they've had to devote to even make that a factor; an option; a possibility in this election. Now think about the latest poll from CNN, USA Today, ABC whatever. That's got to be child's play to manipulate by comparison. No, all polls have to be held suspect from this moment forward as trying to influence public opinion, NOT serve as a measuring stick for it. Besides, do YOU personally think 50% of your friends would vote for Bu$h? No? Do you personally think you and your friends are left-wing extremists out of touch with the rest of the population of America? No? Then never again devote a single energy cell to sweating over the latest poll. It's a lie designed to distract you and make you sweat. Don't let it.

2.) Here's the man-behind-the-curtain angle regarding the polls. For Bu$h's expensive Diebold steal-the-vote plan to work, the vote has to be CLOSE like the 2000 election. Dig it? If it is 99% Kerry vs 1% Bu$h, Diebold/Black Box Voting is USELESS. So, EVEN if Bu$h was racing ahead in the polls at some point it would be in the liars' best interests to BRING THE POLLS CLOSER to even or else abandon the Diebold plan altogether. I personally DON'T think it's likely that they are going to decide to run a fair race at this point. You follow me? Those polls are an attempt to make you all doubt yourselves and think you are alone in the wilderness. DON'T BUY IT!!! It's NOT true! Regardless of the differences in religion, income, social status and lifestyle, common sense is common sense and (how do I say kindly) the most out-of-touch voter can see the wart on the end of their nose. That wart is George W Bu$h.

Last but not least,

3.) Mark Twain said there were three kinds of lies:

Lies, damn lies and statistics

(and he knew of what he spoke. Take comfort from the people of the past. They are with us still. Anyone reading www.astroworld.us knows this.)

~D

If you're having trouble getting a link to Al Franken's program today, I found this one that is not flooded, coming in fine!

http://play.rbn.com/?url=airam/live/llive.rm

Sorry, so excited I put an extra l in the last live!

Exactly, Dommael, about the voting/poll racket. Well put. ;O)

New CCN poll: 73% are saying the new violence in Iraq makes them doubt that the country can be rebuilt.

Thank you Sally.

Iraq can be rebuilt... if they allow Iraqis to do it, give them the job and the money they paid to Halliburton and friends... the Iraqis can build it better and cheaper, about a fraction of the cost we're giving away, no bids...

As Ralph Nader said in an interview over the weekend, it's almost as though Osama bin Laden were whispering in Dubya's ear directing the destruction of this country:
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/FC31Dj02.html

..."In fact, doubts about the stability and permanence of US wealth are deep and wide. The dollar is in steep decline over concerns about the structural integrity of the US economy. The rest of the economies of the world are increasingly concerned about having their economic security hitched so permanently and intimately to the US economy alone. "The neighbors are beginning to talk" about the need to pursue a course of increasing economic independence from the US. What they are saying is evidence that the formerly unquestioned economic power and earned global trust of the United States is in serious decline."
see full article at link

Awesome article Jo. Here is another very disturbing one.

http://money.cnn.com/2004/03/31/news/economy/japan/index.htm

Japan's support of the dollar may have ended, which could push U.S. rates higher; stay tuned.
By Mark Gongloff, CNN/Money

A Herculean effort by Japan to support the U.S. dollar is apparently over, at least for now, but there seems to be little risk of a sudden plunge in the greenback or a jump in U.S. interest rates, analysts said Wednesday.

Since the start of the year, the Japanese central bank has pumped some $144 billion into U.S. Treasury bonds, after buying more than $200 billion of Treasurys last year.

By cashing in its yen for dollars to buy bonds, the Bank of Japan hopes to keep demand for dollars strong and weaken the yen, a boon to Japanese exporters, who are key to safeguarding yet another fragile recovery in the world's No. 2 economy.

More.....

http://wireservice.wired.com/wired/story.asp?section=Breaking&storyId=843712
Can't help but wonder if this could be a foretaste of the complex configurations coming up April 23rd-24th, with the astrocartological emphasis on Tx. We get just about as much comfort from "We'll just have to wait and see" as from "May you live in interesting times." Arrrrgh.

Shylurker, I had exactly the same thought. I've talked about the possibility of a terrorist attack on April 22-24, but I'm beginning to think that something alongthe lines of a Chernobyl event is in the works. In any case, I suspect that whatever is going to happen will take place in Houston.

Oh, Dave, please keep analyzing this thing. We just may be on the verge of liberation from these fascist creeps, and all it's going to take to put us under is some kind of attack, I fear.

I can't say for sure what's going to happen on April 22-24, but my plan is to try to be as far away from Texas as possible. Based on "comparing notes" from different mundane astrology websites, I have deduced that April is going to be a very bumpy ride. I record dates and astrological events in my personal calendar and the next few months (but especially Aoril) seem to have a lot of "big" things going on. From what I've seen on various sites, nothing that happens in April is going to cause a major upheaval in the way that the Iraq War did. We are not going to see a reshaping of the world order. On the other hand, it seems that events which have already been set in motion will accelerate (possibly to the point of exploding) throughout the month of April and continuing through May and early June. If any of the experts on the board wish to challenge or modify this assessment, I welcome their contributions. Key dates/periods in my April calendar are the 4th, the 6th, the 12th, the 13th through the 25th, the 19th, and then lastly the explosive 22nd, 23rd, and 24th. None of these dates have been identified through my own efforts.

Even if there is some kind of attack in April, we will have many months to analyze the failures of the Bush administration, and Kerry is definitely the guy to lead that kind of fight. Such an attack would almost surely result in a retaliation against Syria or another Middle Eastern country. There's no way the US can sustain another nation building project, so any retaliation is going to look like just that--a retributory strike (killing thousands of innocent civilians, no doubt) that serves absolutely no constructive purpose other than to retaliate. But it will be clear that the target of our of retaliation is arbitrary.

Thanks, Dave. My overriding concern is that the Declaration of Indepence, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights emerge intact after the assault of Smirky & The Gang.

Today, we have the horrors in Fallujah.

And tomorrow?

Please keep us advised. Dave.

Saturn/MC (dry explosion as in fire) crossed the Neptune (oil) line when the explosion went off on the BP refinery.It seems strange that they were put on terrorist alert on the 25th but quickly said this had nothing to do with terrorists. Texas is loaded with "home grown" terrorists, and I think this is more likely than foreign

Karen Hughes was on Comedy Central tonight and she is just so phoney. She talked way too fast and laughed way too hard. I thought she was pretty scary (are we sure she isn't a man?) John Stewart is the only show I will not miss for any thing and I just had to turn this woman off, says she had not read Clark's book! Excuse me, how dumb does she think we are?! Of course John was a perfect gentleman well, we'll see what he has to say next week. Shilo

Here you go, Dave:
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/nasa_radiation_031201.html

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