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John Forbes Kerry
The compelling majesty of the rising sun each day is a moment that can give pause to even the most cynical among us. As the darkness slowly recedes in deference to the increasingly omnipresent light, a celestial paintbrush burnishes the sky with color, like rose petals strewn before the advent of the king. A boisterous choir of birdsong also rises with the sun, solemnly heralding its daily journey. In astrology, the placement of the Sun just reaching the eastern horizon is considered a position of great potency, containing within it the power and determination of the imminent day, like the gathered strength of the lion about to leap across a great distance. This extraordinarily dynamic first house Sun can be found in the chart of Senator John Kerry and has colored his life with an inordinate sense of focus and dynamism. Kerry’s birth chart is also strongly impacted by a waxing, almost exact Full Moon. This tempers and sometimes contradicts the fierce striving of the rising Sun with sensitivity, an awareness of others, and a healthy objectivity, as well as endowing it with a tremendous emotional energy. And coloring all of this – the striving ambition, the power, and the sensitivity – is the profound sense of duty, responsibility, and depth of Saturn, which sits very near the Moon and opposes the Sun. Although Saturn can give a very serious and sometimes dour demeanor to one so thoroughly infused with its energy, it also offers a steady, solid trustworthiness, especially in times of great stress. Saturn is the carrier of burdens who will not shirk from any duty. Combined here with an enormously dynamic solar position, it indicates the determination, depth, commitment, and resolve that will be necessary to restore the shattered landscape that will be left when the Bush Family Circus leaves town. Currently, Senator Kerry is enjoying the progression of his Moon conjunct natal Jupiter, which will continue through March, and a trine from transiting Uranus to his Venus, with the first pass peaking on March 8. These aspects are bringing with them the sense of popularity and success that come with the newly secured role of Democratic presidential nominee and leader of the Democratic Party, a role that has remained virtually empty for three years. But come the end of March, the real fireworks may begin. Uranus, the planet of upsets, surprises, and sudden revelations, moves to a quincunx with Kerry’s Midheaven as of late March through April 17, followed by Uranus square natal Uranus from mid-April through mid-July 2004. This transit is likely to bring some sudden and unexpected salvos from the Bush campaign that may include attacks on the Senator’s prestige and reputation (Midheaven). It is possible the Mars/Uranus square of March 26 through 28 will begin this process with a really aggressive onslaught. The strong Uranus influence of this period is also likely to stimulate unique ideas and a break from some traditional policies as Senator Kerry flushes out his vision for America. This burst of creativity may be especially strong in the areas of healthcare and employment since Kerry’s natal Uranus is in the 6th house of work and health. Mars in the natal chart shows how and where a person will be aggressive and how successful that focused energy and drive will be. Interestingly, Kerry’s Mars at 10 Gemini tightly squares Bush’s Mars at 9 Virgo, which describes a very combative relationship between these two men. We will see this exacerbated from late March through early June 2004 due to the Jupiter station at 9 Virgo. This period may also bring some slight increase in Bush’s popularity and his stature as a war-time president, specifically from late March through May 22, during a period when the Saturn influence on Bush is minimized. Both men have strong progressions that intensify the inner strength of their respective Mars positions and that will be triggered by the coming Jupiter station. Kerry is under the progression of Mars conjunct his natal Mars that extends from December 2002 through mid-February 2006. Bush’s year-long progressed Sun conjunction to natal Mars will peak in early June 2004. But whereas Bush’s natal Mars is weakly aspected by only a sextile to the Sun and a sesquiquadrate to the Midheaven, Kerry’s very dynamic Mars is conjunct Uranus, opposite the Sun, widely conjunct the Moon, and trine the Midheaven. This highpowered Mars is evident in Kerry’s dramatic war history, the prosecutorial work he has done both in and out of Congress, and the strong offense he has thus far manifested in the early campaign against George Bush. There is a great deal of the Warrior archetype in these positions – courageous, competitive, and willing to fight the good fight - but tempered by the serious consideration and sense of responsibility of Saturn. Although things are likely to go very badly for Bush from late May through July due to various Saturn transits, Kerry seems to have mostly smooth sailing, right through the Democratic Convention in late July. At that point he will benefit from the very strong Jupiter transit square his Ascendant, Sun and Moon. This highly charged energy will bring a feeling of success, expansion and optimism that will be especially strong the last 10 days of July. There may be some minor difficulties for Kerry from the 15th to the 23rd of July due to Saturn quincunx his natal Sun, but these will pass quickly. The period following the Convention up through the election is perhaps the most important one in a campaign, since people are beginning to pay far more attention than previously. The candidate’s visceral appeal to the voters is crucial during this time. In Kerry’s chart, Venus is the ruler of his all-important Midheaven, the point of career goals and reputation, as well as the generic indicator of attraction and popularity. During these post-Convention months, we find two significant Venus aspects that will augment Kerry’s attractive power and his “likability” quotient.The first is the converse progressed Midheaven square to natal Venus which begins in August 2004 and peaks the following August 2005. This will then be intensified by the other major aspect, the stationary trine of transiting Uranus to natal Venus, which covers the period from September 1 through December 25, 2004. To further strengthen the feeling of charisma and appeal of these configurations, Kerry’s progressed Moon will sextile natal Venus from September 18 through October 18. There is one period where Kerry may run into some problems, though Bush’s chart does not indicate any parallel improvement for his campaign. Nonetheless, the period from September 13 through October 5 may bring some setbacks, difficulties, or possible financial struggles for the Kerry campaign. Minor health complications are also possible. These issues derive from the transit of Saturn semisquare Kerry’s Mars and the converse progressed Moon square his natal Saturn. After October 5 these setbacks will evaporate. In Senator Kerry’s natal chart there is a Pluto/ North Node conjunction sextile the Midheaven. This aspect suggests the likely attainment of a powerful position that has contact and influence with the public. In early 2004, the progressed Midheaven (7 Sagittarius) moved to trine the natal Node (7 Leo), and will reach the exact aspect in January 2005. By mid-October 2004, the progressed Midheaven will move to trine natal Pluto (8Leo) as well, remaining in orb through October 2005. This suggests a period of time, during 2004 and 2005, when the latent power and scope of the Pluto/Node conjunction will come to reach its full potential. The series of Jupiter aspects just prior to, during, and after the 2004 election will augment these progressed configurations, bringing Kerry to a time of extraordinary success, power, and influence in late October and early November 2004, and therefore likely symbolizing his victory in the presidential election. Here is the line-up: Jupiter conjunct the natal Midheaven from October 17 through 22; Jupiter sextile the natal Node, triggering progressed MC trine natal Node, October 27 through 31; Jupiter sextile natal Pluto, triggering progressed MC trine natal Pluto, November 1 through November 4; Venus/Jupiter conjunction exactly sextile natal Pluto, on November 4. It is worth noting here that while Kerry is experiencing a growing popularity and appeal, George Bush will be largely bereft of his much vaunted charm and charisma during the election period and will likely be in the midst of one of the least favored times of his life. Bush has often gotten away with tremendous mischief with only a wink and a nod due to his engaging first house Venus. But it will become more and more obvious that this Venus is increasingly out of commission come November. Beginning in May 2004, converse progressed Venus will be semisquare to natal Saturn, exact by February 2005. By July 2004, progressed Venus will be square to natal Saturn, exact in July 2005. These aspects will then be triggered by the stationary conjunction of transiting Saturn to natal Saturn, itself a very difficult aspect, from September 24 through December 7, 2004. Taken together these suggest a rather morose and burdened period for the current White House resident, when nothing seems to be going right, his polls are at an all-time low, and the consequences of his reckless and ill-considered policies become increasingly and painfully apparent. In the US chart, the progressed Sun will change signs for the first time in 30 years and move into Pisces come November 2004. This signals a distinct change of direction for the country and will likely first be manifested by a regime change in the White House. Initiatives begun by the current administration during the final year of its term, with the Sun in the 29th degree of Aquarius, are likely to come to naught or be totally transformed by the void of course nature of the progressed Sun’s position prior to November. Currently, Senator John Kerry is riding the cresting wave that will soon wash ashore and transform the landscape. For the Democratic Party, he is the embodiment of the Warrior archetype, and he has come to slay the dragon.
Nancy Waterman on Mar 9 | Link
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Oh Nancy, I just read this on your website and think you are just fabulous! Once again, thanks so much for sharing your considerable talent with all of us, especially from this very interested neophyte. Posted by: Jeanie on March 9, 2004 04:29 AMNancy, a thoroughly thoughtful analysis! Thank you. The imagery in your opening paragraphs is always so beautiful --- "a celestial paintbrush burnishes the sky with color, like rose petals strewn before the advent of the king. A boisterous choir of birdsong also rises with the sun, solemnly heralding its daily journey." Something for the eye and the ear! Delightful. Namaste How prophetic, Nancy. No sooner I read your remarks, particularly re attacks on Kerry's prestige and reputation and Josh Marshall tells us: "But apparently some of the president's most opprobrious surrogates have hit the airwaves this evening peddling their latest smear about John Kerry as a dupe or stooge for "communist North Korea". Gettin' bad pretty quick, ain't it? At one level of course this is just silliness. But it's no mystery what sort of dingbat imaginations and Hofstadterian impulses they're trying to tap. It's a pale echo of the wingnut awfulness of the 'Manchurian candidate' smears the president's operatives mobilized against John McCain in South Carolina four years ago."
Kerry continues to press bush on security, terror attacks, Accuses bush of "Stonewalling" 9/11 & Other Investigations. Go, John, Go! http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2004/03/07/politics0256EST0425.DTL
Nancy On your website predictions page, you state: "During the first 10 days of September 2004, severe difficulties are likely involving trade, currency, and/or finance, potentially leading to worsening relations with some other nations. These events will have an adverse impact on George Bush's authority and popularity, and impact the US adversely through June 2005. (3/5/04)" You don't go into this much except for its affect on Bush. For those of us who have been watching the economic scene, it is a potentially alarming time and a trigger event could have repercussions for some time. If this sort of thing does indeed trigger in September, what effect will this have on Kerry, his campaign and potentially his early presidency? Thanks for your incredible analysis. nancy, excellent article!!! just a reminder to other readers and anonymous skeptics, nancy was right on target seeing the rise of Kerry well before Iowa when most of us thought he was finished. it's time to accepet and envision the probability that a humanistic coalition will gain control again. gibson's pornographic 'passion' is the final punctuation mark for the long, disjointed, vulgar paragraph in our history authored by the bush controllers. karmic justice would conclude this once and for all with kerry appointing john edwards attorney general. Posted by: mike on March 9, 2004 06:57 AMNancy, your promotion of Kerry has enticed me to take a second look. He was nearly my least favorite of the candidates. I was planning to vote for whomever got the nod, but wasn't initially very happy with Kerry. Thanks for opening my eyes a little and I think this guy will grow on me. I'm glad he has many positive aspects going forward. He will certainly need it. Posted by: Laurie on March 9, 2004 11:38 AMWell Nancy, I feel a little bit better about Kerry since reading this. Does this Warrior archetype mean that he won't pull a Gore and roll over if the election is close? Which I'm afraid it will be with all those Diebold voting machines out there. Good day. Off the work. Posted by: Patricia on March 9, 2004 12:28 PMI am extremely skeptical about Kerry, but Nancy, your talent just blows me away. Your astrological genious should be broadcast into greater venues; have you written for Mountain Astrologer? I'd love to see you do a more detailed analysis based on your last paragraph here, it's intriguingly wonderful! :) Posted by: Peg on March 9, 2004 02:09 PMNancy, your article was the first robin, the first daffodil, the ripcord, the reprieve, the cure!!! You are just the best. Thank you a thousand times. And Mike, I love your posts. Love them, love them. John Edwards as Atty. General - what a dream come true that would be. I'm starting to get the feeling back in my legs. I think I can come off the respirator now. The x-rays look GOOD! Bush is toast. Bush is toast. Bush is toast. YEEHAW!!!! (Let me have my fun.) Hope is a great thing. Posted by: Lucy on March 9, 2004 02:33 PMPaul Klugman has a very short article in NYT today. A graph and a few words. (A picture is worth a 1,000...) http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/09/opinion/09KRUG.html Joanna Oregon posted a wonderful link on the tail of the last thread. If you didn't see it, do. Kerry is kicking some butt, right Joanna?! Posted by: Jo on March 9, 2004 03:00 PMBeautiful article Nancy! Your imagery is fantastic. Loved this. This from Conason may play an interesting role in the campaign. http://salon.com/opinion/conason/2004/03/09/conspiracy/print.html The vast right-wing conspiracy is back in business. As strategists in both parties gird for what all expect to be an unusually nasty presidential election, the stage has been set by the revival of a conservative crew that might be called "the usual suspects" -- including consultants Floyd Brown, Craig Shirley and David Bossie. With new Web sites and fundraising vehicles already running, these veterans of the "vast right-wing conspiracy" against the Clintons are now launching the first wave of "independent" commercial attacks on John Kerry, the Democratic nominee-to-be.
Meanwhile, Grassfire.com, a new "grass-roots" outfit overseen by Beltway insider Shirley, has produced an ad that claims Kerry is "more liberal than Ted Kennedy." Aside from "nonpartisan educational" groups like Grassfire, his clients have included the Republican National Committee, the Republican Majority Committee, the American Spectator, the Club for Growth, the Conservative Political Action Committee, the Federalist Society, the National Rifle Association, News World Communications and the Washington Times Foundation. If the names of Brown and Bossie sound more familiar, they attained notoriety together during the Clinton era as indefatigable promoters of the bogus "Whitewater" scandal. They served as publicity agents for David Hale, the crooked and discredited former Little Rock municipal judge whose allegations against the Clintons forced the appointment of an independent counsel. Among mainstream journalists panting for a career-making Watergate-style scandal, Brown and Bossie found many a gullible mark. For nearly a decade they churned out junk night and day. For a while, Bossie went on the payroll of the Senate Whitewater Committee; later he worked for Rep. Dan Burton's House Committee on Government Operations investigating Clinton and Al Gore -- until he was caught distributing doctored tapes to the media. Their scorched-earth campaign tactics were epitomized by Brown and Bossie's 1992 paperback broadside "Slick Willie: Why America Can't Trust Bill Clinton." Among the ugliest features of this little pamphlet was a chapter of unsupported and anonymous insinuations about Clinton's role in a female student's suicide. Their "investigation" was later called "an unusually brazen dirty tricks operation" in a report on "CBS Evening News." (In light of recent discussion of the president's National Guard service, the authors may now regret at least one of "Slick Willie's" chapter titles -- "Brave Men Died in Vietnam: Where Was Bill Clinton?") Craig Shirley, who presides over a large, Virginia-based P.R. firm with his wife, Diana Banister, played a less prominent but no less toxic role during the Clinton years. Among Shirley's notable clients were Paula Jones, the Clinton sexual harassment accuser who later modeled for Penthouse; and Gary Aldrich, the retired White House FBI agent whose fabricated tales of Clinton motel trysts and pornographic West Wing Christmas trees made his book a bestseller." More.... These people..........grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Posted by: Pat on March 9, 2004 03:11 PMJo, that Krugman article is OUTSTANDING! Posted by: Pat on March 9, 2004 03:21 PMJeanie, This article is extremely informative. Posted by: Jo on March 9, 2004 03:21 PMNancy, thank you for this wonderful, well-reasoned astrological map of the upcoming election. Incredible job! A guestion though, following up on Stariq's Merriman article: how does the mood of the public (Saturian energy) play into the election process. According to Merriman, the people will chose Bush. This makes no sense to me in that if the public is feeling "serious" wouldn't it seem counter logic that they'd chose Bush? Again, as always, a thoughtful and insightful article, Nancy. Posted by: Janet on March 9, 2004 03:40 PMJanet, at the moment four of the major polls show Warrior Kerry 8% ahead of Bush (sounds to me like the people choose Kerry, at the moment anyway... Merriman may be wrong?) Pat do you think Kerry's persistent lead and Bush's increasing slump account for the vermin coming out of the woodwork as you cite in your post? Rove continues to recycle his dirty tricks. What's that Will Rogers used to say, 'you can fool some of the people...' Sally, was it you who said a few threads back that Dubya and Rove both were losing favor with 'lady luck' and their tactics would appear confused or simply out of sync? Looks like you were right on that... if they were dancin', they'd have two left feet. (make that two RIGHT feet!) Anyway, we'uns has got us a WARRIOR... let the games begin... bring it on Dubya, the people are coming! Go, Kerry Go! Posted by: Jo on March 9, 2004 04:00 PMI've been lurking here for a while but this is my first post. I wanted to thank you, Nancy, for a great article and also ask you and the other posters here how Teresa Heinz Kerry's chart looks this fall. It would be interesting to compare her chart with that of Laura Bush to see if they give us confirmation of your insights. Posted by: gbs on March 9, 2004 05:55 PMWanted to share this link (see below). Sounds a lot to me like Bush's South Node Past catching up with him. Hopefully it'll get some play on the network news. http://www.public-i.org/story_01_040400.htm Jonathan Posted by: Jonathan on March 9, 2004 06:00 PMJonathon, isn't that pretty much what Martha is going to prison for? Posted by: Peg on March 9, 2004 06:13 PMWanted to share the following links. Karl Rove and FBI Plame investigation Is Karl Rove the next Joe Trippi? Seeking subpoenas Flashback to campaign 2000 South Carolina Primary and Bush/Rove smear of McCain... little ol’ fashioned karma coming down? http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/03/09/1078594308506.html Go Saturn, Go! jamblang - I think that beginning in September, when Saturn begins its long transit of US Mercury in the 8th house, we will see some real difficulties that continue til May or June 2005. Mercury as coruler of 9 and ruler of 7, has to do with our connections to foreign nations. In the 8th it has to do with finance, investment, and, I believe, currency issues. Mercury also generically has to do with employment and commerce, as well as communications. All of these may face some kind of contraction (Saturn) during this period. Clearly this Bush-made mess will continue into the first months of Kerry's term, through about June. Also indicative of the similar troubles is the progressed US Venus square to natal Saturn for most of 2005. It peaks around 1/06. But Venus rules the 10th and 6th houses, and so we continue to feel our international power diminished and employment troubles, probably til then. It will help though to have Saturn move past Mercury in June. Kerry has a huge mess to clean up which is why his strong Saturn is so necessary now. We could never pull out of this mess with the frat boy archetype! Posted by: Nancy on March 9, 2004 06:41 PMpatricia - I don't think Kerry will pull a Gore at all. That is what I was trying to say in the aritcle. I think this is why we need him to fight Bush. His campaign has been very aggressive and first on the offense, keeping Bush largely on the defense. The Repub pundits are complaining that Bush looks like Dukakis now!! Whatshisname the editor of the Weekly Standard said that on Sunday. William Crystal? None of Bush's criticisms of Kerry will stick through at least mid-March. After that, Bush's aggression may be more impactful, but Kerry continues not to be under any Saturn, so I don't think much will stick in any event. The only danger times are briefly in mid July and in mid September to early October as oulined in the article. I don't think any bad stuff will stick unless he is under Saturn. It will pass when Saturn passes. None of the Saturn effects are for very long. But I do think we may see Osama get caught between mid April and mid May when Jupiter sits on Bush's Mars (ruler of MC) and progressed US Moon is conjunct natal Jupiter. This will briefly help Bush in the polls, if it happens, until late May. Note also that Uranus will be trine to US Jupiter during the first half of that progression, which will help to trigger it and make it stronger. That could be the time OBL is caught (4/13 to 4/24). Note also the Pluto Mars opposition right after that, triggered by the Mercury station, all aspecting US Mars. If OBL gets caught, we may see a violent backlash at the end of April. I generally try to stay away from such specific predicitons since they only get me into trouble. But this seemed like a good possiblity given the energies. The most conscientious prediciton would be: great success for the US in some way that rubs off on Bush in April and May up to the 23rd or so. Posted by: Nancy on March 9, 2004 06:56 PMHi Nancy, "Bush has often gotten away with tremendous mischief with only a wink and a nod due to his engaging first house Venus. But it will become more and more obvious that this Venus is increasingly out of commission come November." I hope so, but what about the Jupiter-Venus conjunction on election day in Bush's first house, conjunct his Neptune. It seems awfully compelling that this is just such a hoodwink. Posted by: Vis on March 9, 2004 07:32 PMI think the important times to note for Kerry's strength will be the time Edwards withdrew last tuesday, when it became obvious that Kerry has no Another thing that bothers me is the declination of the Moon and Jupiter are aligned on election day in Bush's chart. Someone posted long ago on this site that Bush would win because of that. I think his name was Starman or something. Does anyone remember? He's not been around in a long time. Posted by: Laurie on March 9, 2004 09:05 PMLaurie, I wouldn't put too much credence into Starman's words, but I can locate him/ his works, if you like. Posted by: Peg on March 9, 2004 09:58 PMChas, Jo, here's more info on the zimbabwe plane thing. Apparently it was just purchased from a US company that is in bankruptcy at the moment although it almost smells of cia front. Thanks Jeanie, I don't believe their denial--- and now there's a 2nd plane, and there's 5-6 stories online now... Equatorial Guinea Says Arrests 'Mercenaries' Keep your eye peeled on Venezuela --- they'll be next... Pat, did you see Amy Goodman's interview on Democracy Now with Aristide? CBS News just announced that Dubya has agreed to meet with 911 commission (for more than an hour apparently) giving in to what CBS cites as pressure from the Commission and John Kerry... by d*** it sure is nice to have a WARRIOR at the front of the party! And those emails probably did the trick... see, we are POWERFUL, AWESOME!! Posted by: Jo on March 9, 2004 11:44 PMJeanie, I just looked and we have the same link... notice though that this is NOT the Zimbawe plane... this is one in Equatorial Guinea. If you enjoy seeing Scott McClellan get all flustered as I do, go to Josh Marshall's TP for this a.m.'s WH press 'gaggle' as Josh calls it: Janet - I disagree with Merriman's thesis about the mood of the country causing it to stay with Bush. He is under too much Saturn and will be very unlikeable. If Bush's planets and Kerry's were about the same, perhaps one could use this strategy. But they are not the same. Bush will be having a Saturn return that is intensified by having progressed Venus involved with it. Saturn will also square his MC. Kerry has none of that. jo - It was me who said Rove's magic touch was gone by the end of 2003. I wrote about it in the Puppetmasters article on my site. He had an amazing progresion of Venus/Mars/Node/ and Pluto combined that is now past. http://starlightnews.com Posted by: Nancy on March 10, 2004 12:26 AMgbs - Teresa's chart looks very promising for both the election and for the Inauguration. She will be under a great deal of Jupiter in both situations. Currently, I think the campaign may be a bit of a strain, but that will pass soon. Saturn is squaring several of her planets. The only thing I can find for the First Librarian is that Saturn's station will be semisquare her Mercury in October and November. Posted by: Nancy on March 10, 2004 12:30 AMVis - The Jupiter Venus conjunction is in Dubya's 3rd house, not his first house. Secondly, his Neptune is 5Libra56, and Jupiter will be exactly there on 10/22, and then waning. Venus will be exact on his Neptune a little after 5 PM on election day, still 3 hours before the first returns come in. Thus neither planet will impact him at the time of the election results and after. Jupiter will be sextile his Ascendant til around 10/28. Venus is sextile it briefly on the 11/3, but with the Moon conjunct Saturn and Mars moving to square Saturn, both aspecting his natal Saturn, I think it will be drowned out. Posted by: Nancy on March 10, 2004 12:59 AMNancy, although I am not an astrologer, I agree with your take on Merriman's conclusion. It seems counter intuitive that the public, being in a serious mood, would select Bush over someone who appears grown-up and mature. Posted by: Janet on March 10, 2004 01:05 AMOne major thing about Kerry's Sun is that it's front n' center in the 1st Hse, opp Moon/Saturn in the 7th (under the watchful jaundiced eyes of the People & of the Inner Zen Master-with-a-club, who'll make sure Kerry walks the straight/narrow), as a big contrast from bushie's dreadful sneaky sun hidden away in the 12th. It will be almost impossible for Kerry to be such a Dreadful Sneak. Then, too, Sag is often compelled to blurt out the truth no matter what might be the "niceties" or the "expediencies." I really, really like that. In fact, I'm beginning to like Kerry. It's a good chart for the People's requirements no matter how it may have came about. ;O) Posted by: JoannaOregon on March 10, 2004 01:32 AMLike any wise investor, Merriman hedges his bets a little. Notice that he said twice that the "most patriotic" man would win. We all know that Dubya ain't patriotic at all. The question is, will enough of the American public know that? Then there is the question of winning vs. stealing. That's what I'm worried about. Thanks, Jo, for link to article about theocracy. Will post more re Reconstructionists later. Posted by: Barbara on March 10, 2004 01:36 AMOur Warrrior in Florida appears to be warning the Repigs they'd better not try to steal another election: Kerry warned he would dispatch legal teams to precincts with a history of voting problems in Florida and across the nation. Yes Miss Nancy, you're so right, this is NOT Al Gore... and I apologize for not giving credit earlier where due... you were right on the money about Karl Rove... the "brain" has turned to mush! Pat, The Black Commentator has excellent piece on Haiti http://blackcommentator.com/80/80_cover_haiti.html BC refers to 'Godfather Colin Powell, The Gangster of Haiti': "What is now perfectly clear is that there was never any U.S. intention for Aristide to remain on Haitian soil. Powell assured the Haitian elite of this fact, and prepped them to reject the Caricom plan, thus presenting the planet with the farce that a gaggle of Third World businessmen were thwarting the will of the United States. Bush and his confederates lied in the faces of massed Black congressional representatives in the days leading up to Aristide’s departure (see “US House Members to Bush, Powell: Don’t Usurp Aristide’s Power,” February 26), with assurances from the President that, "We still hope to be able to achieve a political settlement between the current government and the rebels." We now know that the Bush men and France were even then seeking "perfect coordination" in removing Aristide. Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice sat like bookmarks at Bush’s side as he lied to nineteen Black members of Congress." Namaste Well well CBS Nightly News with Dan Rather just blew Diebold out of the water showing how easy it was to steal the elections. And the no paper trail. Busted... Whoo hoo. Posted by: Morgana on March 10, 2004 02:26 AMOMG! Morgana, thank you so much for posting the Dan Rather expose on Diebold. I have no TV (un-subscribed shortly after 911 so I couldn't have to look at those ugly, contorted, lying images). Posted by: shylurker on March 10, 2004 02:57 AMGreat news about Dan Rather taking this story on. I hope it picks up elsewhere. Everytime I read about Colin Powell I just feel sick. He has truly sold his soul. How does he sleep at night? Posted by: Nancy on March 10, 2004 03:58 AMMan, regarding Diebold....it's about time someone did. What has taken them so long??? Is it because Republicans are scared too? Posted by: Pat on March 10, 2004 04:20 AMS. 89—Universal National Service Act of 2003 and The Unrecognizable Recovery Nancy, How does any of thos Unscrupulous, evil Bush troglodytes sleep at night! Posted by: on March 10, 2004 04:25 AMHere is a working link for the Unrecognizable Recovery. Posted by: Pat on March 10, 2004 04:26 AMMemo Call to the Secret Service http://www.thehill.com/news/030904/memo.aspx Posted by: Pat on March 10, 2004 04:51 AMSome very interesting evaluations of prospective VP candidates and what they could bring to the Kerry ticket Veep Thoughts Nancy, great great article!Now that Iam sort of up to speed on Kerrys chart I was able to follow and find your analysis very much to the point. As usual please forgive the typos.I have not done much of this and I sometimes just dont see my errors. Nancy, Colin didn't just now sell his soul. He has always been this creep, dressed up and packaged as Mr-do-right. Chas, thank you for your comments. Again, I find the Wyn Cycle Chart so interesting... and new, to me... beginning to feel I don't even qualify as a 'student' of astrology... what is that term you use, Jonathan, "newbie"? Yes, that's me. Lillie! What a gem your link above is... I have seen lots of short lists for VP but most were scary! filled with names we are all too, too familar with... this one though has some very good candidates. I believe it's time for a BLACK and it's time for a WOMAN, and maybe both! What do others of you think? It's not a matter of 'filling' quotas... it's a simple matter of fair representation. Anyway, look at the mess these white males keep getting us into... and no more old men on nitro drips! I'm not the only one really curious about the planes loaded with 'mercenaries' --- see Josh Marshall's TPM today http://talkingpointsmemo.com Jonathon, about that Martha/ Bush comparison stink: http://www.smirkingchimp.com/article.php?sid=15289&mode=&order=0&thold=0 Posted by: Peg on March 10, 2004 05:01 PMLaurie, I run across Starman in the ARE forum, here is his web page, just for curiosity sake (he does have lots of knowledge,): http://hometown.aol.com/drstarman2001/ Posted by: Peg on March 10, 2004 05:10 PMmore on Bush's insider trading, WHY does NO ONE CARE?????? :http://www.rense.com/general50/isnide.htm Posted by: Peg on March 10, 2004 05:13 PMRt-wing "American Family Assn" has a new poll! Remember, they tried to get something going AGAINST marriage for the gay community, but their results were just the opposite of what they wanted to introduce to Congress. Well, no success in the prez race either. ;O) Jump right in with new poll if you want! http://www.onlinepolls.net/pollv1/default.aspx?pid=10 Poll Results Whom do you favor for the next President of the United States? John Kerry 90.18 % 36,738 vote(s) - George Bush 3.75 % 1,528 vote(s) - Ralph Nader 6.07 % 2,473 vote(s) - Total: 40,739 vote(s) What's hilarious is that even Nadar is receiving more votes than lethal bushie-boy! Posted by: JoannaOregon on March 10, 2004 05:36 PMJoanna, sweet. Rock on People! Posted by: Morgana on March 10, 2004 05:45 PMYeah, Joanna... thanks for the poll link & info. And speaking of Nader --- his candidacy is going to be a problem in November. If this country would do away completely with the electoral college we could have 1,000 political parties! It's that winner take all gimmick in each state that makes our election process such a mess. What's wrong with direct vote by the masses (she asks innocently!)? Posted by: Jo on March 10, 2004 05:51 PMI've read concerns that Kerry will not make it through the campaign season. This has been expressed by some astrologers as well as seers (e.g., Elizabeth Joyce). Does his health and rep look ok to you, Nancy? What about accidents (particularly in small planes)? Many thanks! Posted by: shylurker on March 10, 2004 06:03 PMMy take, Jo, is an attempt to eliminate "freeping." Posted by: JoannaOregon on March 10, 2004 06:20 PMNancy, Joanna, OY! I don't think I can take much more. Please let that not be the case. Posted by: Pat on March 10, 2004 06:54 PMhttp://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=6228 Those of us who are about to participate in the Medicare program might be interested to know that Dubya's nominee to oversee that program is Mark McClellan, awaiting Senate approval. Mark is the most vocal on prohibiting Americans from buying drugs from Canada and is also refusing to answer certain questions from the Senate Committee until AFTER his confirmation. Sound familar? It should, his brother Scott is Dubya's press sec'y and refuses daily to "answer" questions, resorting instead to evasion or downright dismissal of the question (esp. if posed by Helen Thomas). (Runs in the genes, I guess) FYI, Scott was deputy press sec'y under Ari Fleischer, worked for Bush when he was gov of Texas and probably knew about efforts to clean up Dubya's Guard record. He handled communications for Dubya's 2000 campaign and looks like he's in the same spot again! His mother, Carole Keeton Strayborn is Texas Comptroller. He handled all three of her campaigns. All in the family, huh! Wait, it doesn't stop there. Mark and Scott's father is Barr McClellan who has written a book "Blood, Money & Power: How LBJ Killed JFK". Barr, an attorney, was a former member of LBJ's legal team. [Isn't American Politics colorful? ] And Joanna, you were wondering above why nobody seems to care about Dubya's shady financial dealings? Dubya's admin has so many gates going now, who can keep up?Iraq-gate, Khan-gate, Plame-gate, 911... and the list goes on. And they called Reagan the 'teflon' prez! We look to the press, right? I found out the other day that Andrea Mitchell of NBC is married to --- guess! Alan Greenspan! No! Yes! Posted by: Jo on March 10, 2004 07:57 PMRegarding skylurker's fears-I read the latest by Jo, I don't recall wondering why nobody seems to care about bushie's shady dealings. People DO care imo... it's just hard for them to be heard in the "lib'rul" press. ;O) However, it's also my opinion that corpo press also likes to sell papers etc for profit, & I think their paper-sellin' has fallen off remarkably as folks are looking determinedly for other sources of news; therefore, the press is "coming around" a bit. Money's their bottom line. Posted by: JoannaOregon on March 10, 2004 09:17 PMupdate on the zimbabwe incident http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=4539361 Posted by: Jeanie on March 10, 2004 09:18 PMIs this a hoax??? http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=694&u=/ap/20040310/ap_on_el_pr/kerry_mccain_1&printer=1 Posted by: WV on March 10, 2004 09:23 PMJoannaOregon, You make a great point about papers sales' falling off due to people gettig their news elsewhere. Whenever I write to a paper, a columnist or a Letter to the Editor, I always include something along the lines of "if you continue to ignore the facts or misrepresent the situation, I'll finally just give up altogether and get my news overseas or off the Net like millions of others are finding themselves doing" or something like that. They're in a business of (hopefully) black ink and the threat of lost business, regardless of your partisan striping, is always something you notice. Great article, Nancy. And, yes, I'm feeling more hopeful about Kerry as well! Check out Vanity Fair's latest issue with Diebold Voting Machines and and interview with Sharon Bush, Neils' ex-wife, all about their ugly divorce. Jonathan Posted by: Jonathan on March 10, 2004 09:25 PMJoanna, I apologize, it was Peg's post above I was referring to... sorry Posted by: Jo on March 10, 2004 09:28 PMJeanie, thank you SO MUCH for the link above... I read earlier that Zimbabwe officials were threatening death to the mercenaries... guess that got them talking. So it appears the entire grand coalition of the willing (US UK and Spain) are up to their necks in this one...? Salon.com has an announcement today: March 10, 2004 | The presidential campaign is already heating up, and so is Salon. I'm excited to announce that beginning this week Salon is rolling out a series of new editorial initiatives that will propel our political and news coverage to a new level. First of all, Salon is opening a Washington bureau under the direction of veteran political journalist Sidney Blumenthal, whose bestselling account of his days as a senior aide to President Clinton, "The Clinton Wars," was serialized by Salon last year. "The country wants and needs unintimidated news," says Blumenthal. "The Bush administration has put enormous political pressure on the press not to probe its radical policies and their consequences. Salon intends to be fearless." Under Blumenthal's leadership, Salon's new Washington bureau will produce a flow of revealing stories about the Bush administration and the election. On Wednesday Salon is running "The New Pentagon Papers," an exclusive, eyewitness account of how Bush officials inside the Defense Department twisted intelligence in the rush to the Iraq war. The author of the article, Karen Kwiatkowski, is a retired lieutenant colonel formerly assigned to the Office of Special Plans in the Pentagon. In her extraordinary 5,500-word account, Kwiatkowski writes: "I saw a narrow and deeply flawed policy favored by some executive appointees in the Pentagon used to manipulate and pressurize the traditional relationship between policymakers in the Pentagon and U.S. intelligence agencies. I witnessed neoconservative agenda bearers within OSP usurp measured and carefully considered assessments, and through suppression and distortion of intelligence analysis promulgate what were in fact falsehoods to the Congress. I observed how the distorted intelligence and sharpened political talking points were funneled to the Office of Vice President Cheney." On Thursday, Salon will publish the first of several advance excerpts from "House of Bush, House of Saud," a new book by Craig Unger that explores the relationship between the two dynasties, whose explosive contents have been embargoed. In the first installment, Unger, who has written for Vanity Fair and the New Yorker, will expose shocking new details on the flights approved by the Bush White House that carried members of the bin Laden family and other prominent Saudis out of the U.S. to Saudi Arabia after Sept. 11. Salon will publish for the first time the manifest of the passenger list and identify one passenger as a suspected al-Qaida funder who was aware ahead of time of the Sept. 11 attack. And on Friday, Salon will publish an exclusive report on the Texas investigation of House Majority Leader Tom DeLay and his political operatives that reporter Lou Dubose (co-author of "Shrub" and "Boy Genius") believes may send some of them to prison, shaking up Texas and national politics. [there's more to this piece - see http://www.salon.com/letters/editor/2004/03/10/dc_bureau/index.html just came across this diagram on the "intelligence" flow - I know most of us here are aware, but it is interesting to see it in graphic form. http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2004/01/12_400.html Posted by: Jeanie on March 10, 2004 09:50 PMAbout the dying in office issue - we have been hearing it since Bush began squatting in the WH. Personally, if the "curse" exists, which I don't fully buy, we could easily see it having been enacted on Gore, who truly would have won had the votes been counted properly (and everyone been allowed to vote who intended to). Gore was politically assassinated. The old Kerry chart with 5 Sag rising looked quite dangerous in that Uranus would be square to it this year with Mars opposed in late March, and then again with Mars square in mid-August. Both of those would have been very dangerous times for him if that 5 Sag rising were correct. Perhaps some of the predictions come from that. But with the new 8:03 birth time, we don't have that aspect to worry about since Uranus doesn't hit square to Kerry's Ascendant. It does quincunx his MC, but that would hit more reputation and career issues (MC) rather than physical body or personal circumstances (Asc). And natally MC and Uranus are trine, whereas in the old invalid chart, Asc would have been opposite natal Uranus, making the Mars/Uranus transit more dangerous. All that being said, it is a dangerous year with Pluto opposite US Mars. However, Teresa's chart looks good for the Convention and for the Inauguration. I doubt she would be so happy if anything had happened to him. Posted by: Nancy on March 10, 2004 10:09 PMJo - Thanks for the update on Salon. This is great news. Posted by: Nancy on March 10, 2004 10:16 PMTwo items in today’s news that cause me to think I fell ‘down the rabbit hole’. Is Mercury Rx? Rush Limbaugh Smears 9-11 Widows Today’s TPM with Josh Marshall: The president gave a speech today in Cleveland, Ohio. And I'm told he told the audience that while the decision to go to war against Iraq was a sign of his leadership, the ill-effects which the lead-up to the war had on the economy were the fault of excessively bellicose media coverage. [Note from Jo: So, the “self-proclaimed President of War” is now the “self-proclaimed President of Peace”!] http://salon.com/opinion/feature/2004/03/10/osp/print.html The New Pentagon Papers A high-ranking military officer reveals how Defense Department extremists suppressed information and twisted the truth to drive the country to war. Posted by: Pat on March 10, 2004 11:17 PMJo, your memo -“self-proclaimed President of War” is now the “self-proclaimed President of Peace”- reminds me of how Hitler after sacking Poland called for peace over and over while making plans to attack France. Chamberlain, having seen the same tactic used during the time after Austria, then Czechoslovakia, then Hungary were taken over didn't pull another Munich even though many were angling for one. Jo, thanks for posting the talkingpointsmemo link. I notice it also contained more background info into the african mercenary ties. VERY interesting when you put the whole concept including liberia together - and dont forget the other implications in this - pat robertson's cozy relationship with some of these dubious african leaders and all his diamond and gold mine operations also benefiting from operation blessing assets. Posted by: Jeanie on March 10, 2004 11:48 PMAlleged mercenaries were to abduct EGuinea president, leader says http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_world/view/74843/1/.html Just like what happened in Haiti Posted by: Jo on March 11, 2004 12:47 AMThanks Barbara for mentioning in the last article about Patrick Henry College. More misnaming/misleading - like the "clear sky initiative" effect on pollution. Having the nerve to name the college after the "give me liberty or give me death" lead protestor against british tyranny! I looked up their website - you're right, more scary stuff - totally in keeping with stealth takeover control under the guise of religion. Both the democrats and genuine original philosophy republicans should be very concerned. I notice the school began in 1998 - I wonder when their property aquisition and construction on the building began - must have been pretty close to the pnac kickoff. Coincidental? http://www.phc.edu/ Posted by: Jeanie on March 11, 2004 01:03 AMDont' ya Just Love It! Kerry is SAYING it like it is! Yahoooooo! Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry on Wednesday called for deeper tax cuts for the middle class than proposed by President Bush and described his Republican critics as ``"THE MOST CROOKED. . .LYING GROUP I'VE EVER" Posted by: on March 11, 2004 02:08 AMcampaign slogan of Bush's - "It's not my fault!' Greatone from JMM! Chas - I totally agree about the Inauguration planets for Kerry. They look very strong. And that Jupiter sextile to the Sun, though it is exact on the 21st, it is active all of January and half of February. There are a couple of other nice aspects he moves into around Inauguration time: progressed Ascendant when drawn for DC (same progressed MC but for the DC latitude) will be opposite progresed Jupiter from 11/04 to 7/05. Also progressed Venus moves to quincunx natal Moon from around 1/20 to 11/10/05. He has a natal Venus Moon sesquiquadrate, so this is all to the good. These are probably his "honeymoon" aspects. Posted by: Nancy on March 11, 2004 02:21 AMNancy, Morgana Posted by: Morgana on March 11, 2004 03:28 AMTed Kennedy is so close to Kerry it would be interesting to see what his chart looks like around election time. Can any of you astrologers have a look? Or can someone post Kennedy's birth data? Posted by: Laurie on March 11, 2004 04:02 AMlaurie, i'm about to make your day (and mine too). this is from the new paper of record, the la times, 3/10/04: "When asked later about his remarks, Kerry spokesman David Wade said the candidate was speaking in a public place and had no reason to think his comments would not be heard. The spokesman then reiterated the senator's remarks. He said Kerry was speaking about "the Republican attack machine," not President Bush personally. The Republicans "have waged the most crooked, deceitful, personal attacks over the course of the last four years," Wade told reporters traveling with Kerry from Chicago to Washington this afternoon. "We're making it very clear he's a Democrat who's punching back." I saw Kerry's remarks on the news, had a slight pause, then told my wife, 'finally!' it was awsome. Morgana - Nope, he won't back down. What he said was true. They lie and they cheat. He remembers clearly what they did to his friend Max Cleland for one. He won't back down. Finally, someone is taking on the neighborhood bully!! Thanks, Mike, for posting the Kerry spokeman's followup remarks. Posted by: Nancy on March 11, 2004 04:31 AMThis is fun... * Culture War May Find WMDs It seems that bush's "culture war" may finally succeed where Op Iraqi Freedom did not. Namely, W and Rove's latest foray seems sure to find those long-sought-after WMDs. Weapons of Mass Destruction? No, not them. I'm talking about White Male Defectors, voters who 4 yrs ago responded favorably to bush's no-nonsense, common man veneer, but now find themselves alienated by his increasingly expansive religious agenda & his assaults on the Bill of Rights. ... ... Stern was the ideal sacrificial lamb for Clear Channel. In one fell swoop they cld give the appearance to the FCC, investors & the public that they were cleaning up their act, while demonstrating their loyalty to the bush [regime]. However, at the same time they may have also inadvertently given rise to the opposition radio network that the left has for so long coveted; albeit of a shape & scale that the left never imagined. In contrast to a "liberal radio network" that wld most likely preach to the already converted, the Howard Stern network is massive, loyal & comprised of exactly those swing voters that both parties woo. What's more, Stern reaches millions of these voters in key election states including AZ, NV, OH, MI, PA, MD, & TN. For his part, Stern isn't going down without a fight. He remains the most popular radio host in the nation & the wk after the Clear Channel incident "Howard Stern" was the most frequently searched term on Google. With an est'd 15-20mn devoted listeners, Stern knows that his audience can make the diff in a tight election, as they did in the elections of both former Gov Christie Todd Whitman & Gov Geo Pataki. Ever since the Clear Channel incident, Howard has been blasting bush & urging his listeners to, "take back the country," to "remember this show when you are in the voting booth," & to "vote george w bush out of office." While his sideshow act of strippers & dwarves still gets airtime, in the course of a wk, Howard Stern has become the #1 voice of political dissent in America. With Stern's daily political commentary & his influence over swing voters – those critical white male defectors – bush may find that his undoing in the culture war, just as in the war in Iraq, may be WMDs. http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=18090
* Voters older, more liberal than in other Southern races: 80% in exit polls say Kerry shares their values http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nationworld/bal-te.kerryside10mar10,0,431516.story?coll=bal-nationworld-headlines Posted by: JoannaOregon on March 11, 2004 06:20 AMSalon.com new arrangement with Guardian, exchange of daily articles (see post above); this is first, by Sidney Blumenthal Squandering the trauma of September 11 Sidney Blumenthal http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/comment/story/0,14259,1166864,00.html Go Salon! Go Sidney! Go Truth! Good luck and God/Godess bless to John Kerry, who today with his typical double Sag honesty called the Bush group 'the most lying crooked bunch he's ever seen'. Us too, John Kerry, us too. Posted by: Isabelle Ghaneh on March 11, 2004 02:25 PMThis has been a long time coming. Must read. The Great Escape Pay special attention to the last three paragraphs. Posted by: Pat on March 11, 2004 02:59 PMBush Waves the Bloody Shirt http://www.salon.com/opinion/blumenthal/2004/03/11/cleland/print.html Max Cleland tells Salon: It's "the band of brothers against the slime machine." "Lucky me, I hit the trifecta," said George W. Bush in the immediate aftermath of 9/11, according to his budget director. War, recession and national emergency liberated him to soar in the political stratosphere. But after several faltering starts this year, he felt compelled to relaunch his campaign with $4.5 million in television ads in 16 key states. In 60-second commercials he would lock the sequence of recent history into the American mind, his narrative of his presidency as he wished it to be understood. Suddenly, images of 9/11 cascaded on the screen: firefighters carrying a flag-draped coffin at ground zero juxtaposed against another firefighter raising the flag. Bush's slogan: "Steady leadership in times of change."
More.... Posted by: Pat on March 11, 2004 03:41 PMPat, This website is a MUST read every day... they are going to give us some hard-hitting journalism. As for our "War pResident" --- today he's attending a memorial service for 9-11, he's actually going to throw the first shovel of dirt for the planned memorial and then follow up with a fundraising for his campaign! The Chimp's got no brains, no sense of compassion, no honor, (Whoops! just created a ton of karma for myself didn't I)--- Peace Posted by: Jo on March 11, 2004 04:46 PMJo, I prefer "The truth shall set you free.". Posted by: Pat on March 11, 2004 05:36 PMNewbie here. Hello all! This is a terrific site. Great article on Kerry, Nancy. Like other posters I feel slightly more comfortable now than I did previously. Kerry was my absolute LAST pick. Dennis Kucinich my absolute FIRST. This nation is not yet ready for DK. Perhaps Kerry is preparing the way. (wink) karen Posted by: karen on March 11, 2004 06:05 PMAbout the presidential curse. There are also several astrological factors to go by and they have not gone into effect yet. First you have to elected in a 0 year. Jefferson had all the factors except being elected in a 0 year and of couse he was before the curse. It was a tie election and he was elected in a 1 year by the legislature. The next factor is Jupiter-Saturn conjunction in EARTH SIGNS. Regan was elected with the conjunction in Air signs and Monroe 1820 the conunction was in fire signs, I am sure it was not earth but not sure it was fire. This is the ending of the conjuction in earth, but there may be one that comes in after the air signs are prominent. Another factor is Neptune close to 16 fixed by any 8H harmonic. Neptune is only moving into this area now. Both big war presidents died after the Neptune had passed 16 fixed by 3 and 7 degree orbs.
Only history will tell if Bush will fall into the classification of Roosevelt and Lincoln-doubtful as history shows that we are rarely really warless. There are minor aspects like 19 degrees in transits. But this is only statisticallly valid, with only 5 of the 7 having this. Neptune reaches 15 Aq in April then goes retrograde back to 14 in June. Then it does not reach 15 till after the election. It can happen in any term as long as he is elected in 0 year in any term. The 0 year fell in Roosvelts 3rd term and he died in the 4th. One of them died before the Saturn Jupiter conjunction. I am assuming that even though the conjunction was prior to the 2000 election, it would be in effect by the president who took office from that election. I have been working to find a smoking gun so to speak for ages as have many and better astrologers before me. I have been using a different US chart of 3/1/1781 recently and finding it is very significant on presidents death days. The reason for the chart is that some historians see this as the real US gov beginning. It is the radification of the Aricles of confideration. This then would make Samuel Hugenton the first president but not the first elected. He was already in office at the time. He did leave office early due to illness. This is a lengthy but very interesting read on harken energy timeline from way back when. Seems that George Soros owned harken energy stock before georgie boy got involved. Maybe thats part of why he's so committed to helping the defeat - perhaps he knows of his incompetence and fraud first hand. BCCI is also featured and mentions senator kerry trying to go after participants some time back. The crook comment the other day may have been coming from the heart but perhaps he stategically softened it so he would not look directly hatefult to bush for the voting public perception. The article ponders at the end if Harken was not a cia front. http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0210/S00178.htm
It occurs to me that this is lethal cowboy's version of an erotic-snuff video not unexpectedly coinciding with Mel Gibson's erotic-snuff movie, The Passion. All comes from the same twisted, sickened sexual energy or Life Force. That's all the porno-puritan fascist knows... out of its own inner hell-hole of ignorance & dishonesty & sado-masochism. I wld say that this, indeed, is an good example of AmeriCo's difficulty with Neptune sq Mars. * The dead, the bad & the ugly: [rez]'s ad blitz bombs 9/11 It was never a question of whether, but of how bush wld use the graveyards of 9/11 to season his election campaign. The question was just answered: By eroticizing the dead of that fateful day & using the flag as their g-string. The 1st TV ads of the bush campaign released last wk don't yet linger on the dead. They only dig one back up for a cameo in the 30-sec spot that sums up the "challenges" bush had to face after taking office ("An economy in recession. A stock mkt in decline. A dot com boom gone bust. Then a day of tragedy.") The ads are a teaser of what's to come. They announce that the RNC in Manhattan, a few blocks from Ground Zero & a few days removed from the attacks' 3rd anniversary, will be an orgy of 9/11 videos. Last wk's ads are the previews. ... con't http://www.n-jcenter.com/NewsJournalOnline/Opinion/Editorials/03OpOPN41030904.htm Posted by: JoannaOregon on March 11, 2004 07:40 PMKerry not only refused to apologize, but came back harder, listing the programs that have been severely cut, and pointing out the Republican character assination machine. I haven't been this happy in years! He is shedding the Democratic pink tutu. Bravo! Posted by: Pat on March 11, 2004 08:08 PMPat, Kerry's come out fighting and planning... Gore didn't reach out to the factions of the party until too late: Blacks and Latinos in Oct 2000. Kerry met with Dean yesterday - is meeting with Carter, Clinton and 2004 candidates shortly... with the DNC now to pull them in under "his" umbrella for the duration of the campaign... Blacks and Latinos now... Happy Times are Here Again, The skies above are clear again... I can hear Barbra already Namaste Posted by: Jo on March 11, 2004 08:45 PMMaybe with the spring comes the light at last! Sounds like Kerry is taking up the sword against Bush at last - hurray! I'm reminded of words from the Song of Solomon today "For, lo, the winter is past, the rain is over and gone, the flowers appear on the earth, the time of singing of birds is come and the voice of the turtle is heard in our land." May flowers of voices start to spring up at last and be heard loud and clear! As Jo posted "Happy Times Are Here Again" ... can we hope?! Looks like a good start!! Peace to all! Posted by: Siobhan on March 11, 2004 10:11 PMCan anyone explain this sudden drastic changes in the world situation today(3/11) in Spain and also Jo and Siobhan, after watching Kerry and the host of Senators behind him, I have hope. Get a load of this. For days now, the job at Eisenhower Park in Nassau County has been to follow the order from the White House through the Secret Service and down to the park workers: "The president's feet are not to touch the dirt." So all yesterday, large crews drawn from all county parks worked to ensure that, as always in his life, George Bush's feet do not touch the ground when he appears in the big park today. Bush arrives for a fund-raiser at a restaurant in the park. That is indoors and he doesn't have to worry about his feet there. But he has to go over ground to an administration building where he is to meet with families of 9/11 victims. After that, he has to go over more ground to get to the site of a memorial to the victims. He doesn't want his feet on the ground and he will be at a groundbreaking ceremony. Posted by: Pat on March 11, 2004 10:15 PMRaj, http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~harwood/coment.html Thursday March 11th 2004 Venus (in Taurus) is in waning sextile to Saturn (now direct in motion in Cancer) at 11-44 GMT. A good time to settle deals and make feelings known. The very fast Moon is in Scorpio confers notes of seriousness and depth to proceedings. Latest Update:- A string of deadly blasts has hit three Madrid train stations during the rush hour, killing at least 180 people. Police cars raced to the Atocha train station in the heart of the Spanish capital, where an explosion destroyed carriages of a suburban train. Two other train stations were also hit by the near simultaneous explosions. Spain's government has blamed Basque separatist group Eta for the attacks which come ahead of Sunday's elections. The blast at Atocha happened at about 06-30 GMT as a train was pulling into the station, which lies in the heart of Madrid. The atrocity occurred when Pluto was on the Mid Heaven over Madrid as the Sun was rising on this fatefully dark day for Spain. Chart for Madrid http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~harwood/spain.htm Posted by: Pat on March 11, 2004 10:20 PMA statement was made in Spain on the 3/11. Thank you Siobhan for the paper ballot info. http://www.takebackthemedia.com/true911.html Posted by: Pat on March 12, 2004 12:32 AMbhakti and others, could you please explain the mirror/window principle. What size mirror and how do you get the mirrors to stay in place? Thanks Posted by: Janet on March 12, 2004 01:19 AMHere's latest on the Zimbabwe mercenaries... seems the plane originated out of NORTH CAROLINA Plane Did Stop At Grantley Adams - Thursday 11, March-2004 Sources also indicated that the aircraft, which Zimbabwean officials alleged also carried military equipment, had arrived from the Hope Air Force Base in North Carolina, United States, before its stop-over in Barbados. Further reports stated that the plane, originally a commercial PanAm Airways aircraft up until a week ago, was being operated by the American Air Force, but international Press reports stated it had been sold to a South African company. The plane was detained by Zimbabwean security officials after its owners made a false declaration of its cargo and crew at Harare’s main airport. -------------- Josh Marshall at http://talkingpointsmemo.com cites Knight Rider article that: Bush administration ordered Medicare plan cost estimates withheld and JMM has a note on Bush ad due out tomorrow --- we might as well get used to it... Rove is down and dirty... the Repigs are running scared Peace Posted by: Jo on March 12, 2004 02:24 AMJanet, I just used whatever mirrors I had handy or could pick up at yard sales--the size you might have on your dressing table--not itsy-bitsy but not real big either. I just leaned a mirror against the screen in each window. They weren't noticable from the street. One thing I was careful of was not having a mirror where it would direct sunlight into a driver's eyes. The idea is probably similar to the idea of those charms that are made to avert the evil eye. The mirror sort of attracts the force coming toward the window and bounces it back. So the mirror doesn't have to cover the window by any means. Posted by: Barbara on March 12, 2004 02:36 AMhttp://www.calpundit.com/archives/003187.html WHAT HAPPENED ON AUGUST 6, 2001?....Hullabaloo commenter Sara reminds us — or in my case, tells me for the first time — that there's a mighty interesting book scheduled to come out next month: Richard Clarke, the former NSC counterterrorism expert from Bush I, Clinton and 2 years plus of Bush II is publishing his insider book that takes no prisnors. Word is that Rove is very afraid of what Clarke has to say -- particularly because Clarke was the August 6 2001 briefer of Bush, and there is a good deal about how he got told never to raise such matters again with Bush....The close collaborator with Richard Clarke -- going back to Bush I at NSC was Rand Beers -- who quit last summer in disgust, and walked down the street and volunteered his services to Kerry, where he has been ever since. Posted by: Pat on March 12, 2004 03:04 AMWhoop-tee-doo! This is all coming together quite nicely--and we get to watch BushCo unravel. Posted by: shylurker on March 12, 2004 03:45 AMJo, those are some humdingers. I've certainly passed them on. I'm particularly fond of the "don't tell them how much it will really cost" article. There is a High Crimes and Misedmeanors thread over on the Salon blog. It's there now too, along with so many other atrosities. I'm telling you, they are wearing me out, and I'm sure there is no rest ahead. Posted by: Pat on March 12, 2004 04:03 AMhttp://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=18057 Pat, March 12, 2004 | Declaring a "radio jihad" against President Bush, syndicated morning man Howard Stern and his burgeoning crusade to drive Republicans from the White House are shaping up as a colossal media headache for the GOP, and one they never saw coming. The pioneering shock jock, "the man who launched the raunch," as the Los Angeles Times once put it, has emerged almost overnight as the most influential Bush critic in all of American broadcasting, as he rails against the president hour after hour, day after day to a weekly audience of 8 million listeners. Never before has a Republican president come under such withering attack from a radio talk-show host with the influence and national reach Stern has. "He's got one of the biggest audiences in all of radio, and perhaps the most loyal," says Michael Harrison, publisher of Talkers magazine, the nonpartisan monthly that covers radio's news/talk industry. "And that's why he's so dangerous for the White House." More... AND tomorrow's article is on Salon's website, Tom DeLay's Texas machine... facing indictments for violating Texas campaign finance laws! Shylurker, thanks for the link... she's a wonder isn't she! GO PEOPLE, GO! Namaste http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/030604_fax_campaign.html More exposure: BBC VIDEO on the disputed death of Dr David Kelly and the need for coroner's inquest. RealAudio: http://www.indybay.org/uploads/kellysuicidedoubts.rm Did anyone notice that yesterday the 11th was 911 days since 9/11? Makes me wonder if Madrid was Al Queda and that they maybe count numbers. Need to make a correction in the above.The Saturn opposite Pluto aspect in 2001 to March 2003 was not aspecting the US Mars Neptune or at least not tightly. But the point remains current Pluto aspect to the US mars square Neptune does make for considerable fear in the financial markets and I think this is showing up now with transit of Sun Mercury activating that.Also Saturn going direct this past weekend on the US Jupiter Venus. Posted by: Chas on March 12, 2004 08:56 AMSomeone on this site posted about the Richard Clarke book a few days ago & I ordered early from Amazon--it is to be shipped end of this month. And, Joseph Wilson (Valerie Palme's husband) has his book coming out the end of April. Bing, bang, boom! Posted by: Barbara on March 12, 2004 01:00 PMBarbara, thanks. Posted by: Janet on March 12, 2004 02:07 PMTom DeLay's funny-money trail By Lou Dubose March 12, 2004 | The weekly pen-and-pad press briefings in the office suite of the house majority leader are almost formal events. Thirty to 40 reporters take their seats at a long table and at a second tier of chairs placed against the east and west walls. "The leader" enters, escorted by two aides, Jonathan Grella and Stuart Roy. Roy closes the door at the south end of the elegant dining room and stands beside his boss, who sits at the head of the table; Grella takes his position at the opposite end of the room. Tom DeLay takes his seat, opens with a bit of friendly banter, and begins to work through his agenda. There's so much decorum that DeLay's arrival and departure are almost ceremonial. And there is never any doubt about who is in control. The 56-year-old congressman from Sugar Land, Texas, is smart, authoritative and in charge. Recently the leader's grip has begun to slip. The first press conference in February ended with a Fox TV news reporter pressing DeLay for answers about the ethics committee's failure to investigate allegations of bribery on the House floor. DeLay didn't respond. The last press conference in February ended with Fort Worth Star-Telegram reporter Maria Recio asking about a campaign finance investigation in Texas. "That's not on the agenda," DeLay snapped. The "vindictive and partisan" D.A. DeLay referred to is Ronnie Earle. For almost six months, Earle and a grand jury have been investigating possible violations of Texas campaign finance law in the 2002 election. Because the state capital lies within the jurisdiction of Travis County, Earle is far more powerful than the D.A.s in larger cities, such as Houston, Dallas and San Antonio. His Public Integrity Unit has a mandate and legislative funding to prosecute public officials who break the law. He's held office for 27 years, and is the only Democrat with statewide prosecutorial authority. His ongoing investigation of two political action committees that spent a combined $3.4 million on 22 Republican Texas House races is now focused on a PAC founded by DeLay and directed by a DeLay operative. "This is an attempt to criminalize politics," said a visibly angry DeLay. Ronnie Earle, he told reporters at his Feb. 24 press conference, is a "runaway prosecutor." More... http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/03/12/delay/index.html [note from Jo: Has anyone else noticed that most Repigs are 'control freaks'?]
Yes... & delay is a particularly nasty piece of work. Posted by: JoannaOregon on March 12, 2004 03:18 PMSalon.com has given MoveOn.Org'ers a free pass to a breaking story -- because, they say, it's important. The new Pentagon papers A high-ranking military officer reveals how Defense Department extremists suppressed information and twisted the truth to drive the country to war. http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2004/03/10/osp_moveon/ The piece is long but well worth the read. If you are unable to get on or you are not a Move-On member, e-mail me and I will send the article to you. Too long to post here. Posted by: Laurie on March 12, 2004 03:53 PMChas, very interesting post, and that link is really interesting. I've been going through it. Thanks for posting it here. I'm so glad Salon gave a free pass to the New Pentagon Papers article. It's a must read. I'm frustrated because I want to link so many articles from Salon here, but I guess even though I go deep into it to the print level, it is still not readable. sigh Posted by: Pat on March 12, 2004 03:59 PMI wish to convey my deepest sympathy to the people of Spain. Blessings and healing to all of you. Peace. Posted by: Pat on March 12, 2004 04:04 PMLaurie, it is important... please bookmark Salon.com for a daily read... Pat and I both linked to this story yesterday and to the wonderful agenda Salon has for the duration of the campaign... their story today is on Tom DeLay which I linked above... read Salon's letter on the website telling about Sidney B. and their exchange with the Guardian for articles... and remember, you don't have to subscribe to get in --- Salon gives an option for a 'day pass' --- all you have to do is watch a 30 sec commercial and you're in for 24 hrs. Great huh! I don't know about you, but Salon is going to be the first place I go every a.m. for REAL NEWS! Morgana, you were right on about the focused light on Washington... the people are coming... hear them march! We won't forget Haiti and we won't ignore the attempted coup in Zimbabwe and EGuiena (where they recently discovered oil! --- follow the drugs and oil and you'll find the Repugs up to their necks in manure!) Namaste, Peace... Posted by: Jo on March 12, 2004 04:11 PMMore revelations: OMG Posted by: Pat on March 12, 2004 04:18 PMMore revelations...this one posted on Salon. http://nielsenhayden.com/electrolite/archives/002301.html "Can’t…stop…self…must…don…tinfoil…hat: (1) Prominent Republican Thomas Kean, former governor of New Jersey, is the new chairman of the 9/11 commission. (2) Kean is also a director of petroleum company Amerada Hess. (3) In 1988, Amerada Hess formed a joint venture with Saudi company Delta Oil. (4) One of Delta Oil’s backers is Khalid bin Mahfouz, who is — here’s where you need to clap your hat firmly to your skull — married to one of Osama Bin Laden’s sisters. And suspected of financing Al Qaeda. Oh, and named in one of the lawsuits brought by 9/11 victims. Did we mention that he’s also been involved in deals with the Carlyle Group, the ultra-secret investment group that includes, among others, George H. W. Bush? And also in deals with—yes, your tinfoil hat, properly adjusted, plays 1980s popular music!—BCCI? (5) Three weeks before Kean’s appointment, Amerada Hess severed its ties with Delta. Source: Fortune magazine. I realize that only unreasonable people would make anything of the above. Why would anyone possibly worry about the fact that every time we turn around another prominent Administration member turns out to be up to his ass in business connections with shadowy Al-Qaeda supporters? Certainly I’m not worried. That would be tinfoil hat stuff. Not for me! I dismiss my misgivings with a stern flick of my Rational Mind! Also, monkeys fly out of my.... More
http://www.totalobscurity.com/media/scrapbook/camping-02-03/MidnightMadness/imagepages/image22.htm Posted by: Pat on March 12, 2004 04:37 PMJo and Joanna, It is being reported today that Earle is now looking into Texas state congressional democratic races to see if any of the possible campaign finance violations he is investigating regarding Republicans may have likewise been a problem in Dem races. I don't know if he really suspects such or is just trying to give an appearance of 'evenhandedness'. In any event, I would love to see Earle bag DeLay, who is the nastiest, most self-righteous junkyard dog in the history of Texas politics (and we've had some doozies!). I would like to believe that DeLay could be voted out of office, but Texas has taken a turn sharply to the right of its traditional 'conservative' tradition, and barring a criminal conviction, I don't think DeLay is going anywhere soon. I know it's not a good thing, but I have dreams in which I see DeLay falling into a woodchipper or a buzzsaw, along with all his ilk... Has anyone done any kind of charting of this bugger's upcoming transits? Posted by: Susan on March 12, 2004 04:40 PMThe gist of the article below is that the ‘spy for Iraq’ is cousin to Andrew Card! Writer suggests that timing of her arrest and info that she worked for DEMO congressmen (but neglected to say that for past seven years she has been working for REPUGS) might have been meant to embarrass Demos/Kerry... Member of Prominent Republican Family Arrested For Spying For Iraq:Alleged Spy Linked to White House That's the headline you could have seen but didn't. More... http://www.dailykos.com Pat, the Repugs have two mantras: 1)conspiracy, tin-hat and 2)anti-semetic (if you question Israel's 'Bulldozer' Sharon or Neo-Cons) --- they (Repugs) were business majors and never learned the rules of debate - they didn't have to, in business you crush the opposition right, no talk/debate necessary... besides if you debate you have to deal with messy things like "facts"... who needs it, right?! Four years ago the internet was not a factor in the election. I believe that the portion of the electorate that is informed gets the bulk of their facts, opinions from surfing the net... not from TV or their local newspaper. The folks in the WH hadn't counted on that... hey, Dubya doesn't even read the newspapers... whatcha' bet he doesn't keyboard either! Their lies are coming right back 'em... like the mirrors in the windows, the computer screen has them running from their own boomerangs! Don't you worry, Susan... Tom DeLay can slip on a banana peel anyday... remember Trent Lott did himself in at a birthday party! Let the light shine, let the light shine... namaste [Really good article on the proposed “Constitution Restoration Act of 2004" ] One of the sticking points in finalizing the "interim constitution" of the Pentagon cash cow formerly known as Iraq was the question of acknowledging Islam as the fundamental source of law in the puppet state. Secularists objected, moderates were uneasy, extremists insisted. In the end, a fudge was worked out that cites the Koran as a fundamental source of legal authority, with the proviso that no law can be passed that openly conflicts with Islam. We in the enlightened West smile at such theocratic quibbling, of course: imagine, national leaders insisting that a modern state be governed solely by divine authority! Governments guaranteeing the right of religious extremists to impose their views on society! What next –– televised debates about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin? Oh, those poor, ignorant barbarians in Babylon! Well, wipe that smile off your face. For even as we speak, the ignorant barbarians in Washington are pushing a law through Congress that would "acknowledge God as the sovereign source of law, liberty [and] government" in the United States. What's more, it would forbid all legal challenges to government officials who use the power of the state to enforce their own view of "God's sovereign authority." Any judge who dared even hear such a challenge could be removed from office. The "Constitution Restoration Act of 2004" is no joke, no rhetorical flourish by obscure fringe elements; it was introduced by some of the Bush Regime's most reliable –– and powerful –– Congressional sycophants, including the renegade Democrat, Bush-backing Senator Zell Miller of Georgia. If enacted, it will effectively transform the constitutional republic of the United States into a theocracy, where the abitrary dictates of a "higher power" –– as personally interpreted by a judge, policeman, bureaucrat or president –– can override the rule of law. If you think this is an exaggeration –– typical liberal paranoia –– think again. Although the very little mainstream comment on the bill has described it merely as a sop to those who want to post the Ten Commandments in courtrooms and the like, the Religious Right knows full well what the true impact of the bill will be. That's why they've mobilized their forces to give all-out support to the measure, even at the expense of other high-profile battles against abortion and gay marriage. Indeed, some hardright commentators are calling the bill "the most important item on the conservative agenda this year –– more important than the presidential election," as investigator Karen Yurica reports. The Act –– drafted by a former minion of TV evangelist Pat Robertson –– is the fruit of decades of work by a group of extremists known broadly as "Dominionists." Their openly expressed aim is to establish "biblical rule" over every aspect of society –– placing "the state, the school, the arts and sciences, law, economics, and every other sphere under Christ the King." Or as Attorney General John Ashcroft –– the nation's chief law enforcement officer –– likes to say: "America has no king but Jesus!" More... http://smirkingchimp.com/article.php?sid=15321&mode=nested&order=0 Gosh, can you-all feel the power and energy on this thread? It's sort of like trampling out the vineyards where the grapes of wrath are stored. Posted by: Barbara on March 12, 2004 06:56 PMRe:MIRRORS The size does not really matter, I have used them If you know the culprit, place a picture of him or
Hello, Corleonis, I like this idea of the culprit in a box. The culprit's likeness is readily available. Let's all put him in a box "till all is resolved." This could work, and it sure couldn't hurt. Posted by: Barbara on March 12, 2004 09:38 PMMillions take to the streets in Spain (see Reuters.com or any major int'l paper) to protest terrorist acts - Aznar, part of Dubya's coalition of the willing is trying desparately to tie ETA to the deeds, although an al-Qaeda group claims responsibility. Peace, to the people of Spain... and Haiti... and Iraq... Posted by: Jo on March 12, 2004 09:41 PM* Daily [enron] Reality Check - One of the biggest issues in the 2004 election is the economy. The signals from the polls are overwhelming: the majority of voters see the economy as the top priority right now, & those that don't will more than likely change their minds. The importance of the economy cld shift some, but there is no doubt that it will remain a massively important issue on voters' minds. ... ... John Kerry needs to embrace big, bold, innovative ideas like the Apollo Project, & develop a compelling counter-msg to the cut taxes, less govt mantra that repubs have been pushing for decades. In doing this, he can take control of the economic debate so that it is not just bitching about bush, but about est'ing a party with vision, & ideas for the future. http://www.americanfamilyvoices.org/projects/DailyRealityCheck.asp?ID=99 {Don't know about you, but I agree with this. I wrote Sen John Kerry's office giving his office the URL for this article regarding the Apollo et al Project. Mebbe you will, too. Sen John Kerry's URL for contact is: http://kerry.senate.gov/bandwidth/contact/email.html
This huge terrorist attack in Spain came with the Sun square to Pluto, thereby triggering the Pluto transit opposite US Mars. This in turn seems to have stirred up a lot of the 9/11 fears and concerns which had been somewhat on the back burner recently (despite Bush). If you look at the chart for Madrid at 7:30 AM yesterday, Pluto is exactly on the MC square the Sun on the Ascendant. Now do a chart for 4/23/04 when Mars moves to oppose Pluto and the Moon is exactly conjunct Mars, at 4:20 PM in Washington, DC. Here we find the Moon/Mars conjunction is on the MC and Pluto is on the IC. The Moon Mars is conjunct US Mars with Pluto opposed. If you do the same chart but a bit earlier, 10:20 PM in Baghdad, you will find Pluto conjunct the Ascendant opposite Mars/Moon conjunct the Descendant. I think something very nasty will be coming down the pike on 4/23 and I would not rule out terrorism in the US since this week Pluto/Sun brought terrorism in Spain. Remember this Mars/Moon/Pluto aspect will herald several days of Mercury stationary sextile Pluto, a continuous trigger to Pluto (fear of survival) opposite US Mars. As I have said many times, something will be going on for that week or so, and this attack yesterday with the Sun Pluto square underlines my concern. Posted by: Nancy on March 13, 2004 01:39 AMNancy, something "big" possibly happening around 4/23 could explain Bush's popularity surge--you've mentioned that his popularity could rise late March through that time period. Posted by: Janet on March 13, 2004 02:01 AMTime for a smile :) http://www.bushhouseofcards.com/ Laurie H Posted by: on March 13, 2004 03:11 AMI think all these "terr'ist attacks" thruout the world are related, & the notion of "enemy Al Qaeda" is a big sham. I think the olie/pluties got together years ago & planned the whole program of terr'ist attacks to subjugate, not only the USians, of course, but the whole world. I think the coup d'etat bushie-boyz are part of it all... Spain & Africa being just some of the latest that we KNOW about... or rather, are having rammed in our faces. I think they're smirking at all us world citizens as we sing kumbaya with each other & yammer forever about the very sad state of affairs... mostly wasting time. Thanks for letting me vent. Which reminds me: looking at delay's chart, I am at a loss as to why such an energy complex wld produce such hyperactive cruelty, except that I'm struck about all the pisces. One of Hitler's rt-hand men--can't think who right now--was a mega-pisces. The piscian age was probably the cruelest of ages of which we haven't seen the end yet. I'm supposing that bio-units & human becomings just cannot yet handle such collective energies. But as I write, I know that's a cop-out & still a mystery.
Joanna, As for Pisces... just remember, the two fish swim in opposite directions... some are just bottom feeders... others, swim to the top against the current... Posted by: Jo on March 13, 2004 04:24 AMYea, Jo... well, we're talking about a whole lot worse than bottom feeders. Bottom feeders are fairly positive next to these guys. Posted by: JoannaOregon on March 13, 2004 05:01 AMThought I'd mention, one of the beliefs across the rad religious right is that after they take control there will be trials like the Nuremberg trials after WWII, and people who supported the right to abortion, sex ed, gay rights, etc. will be tried and punished. You've probably heard of the infamous "Nuremberg Files" web site that listed personal info on doctors and others and put a line through the names of doctors who had been killed. I knew two women who hung around outside a clinic taking staff's license tag numbers for their "Nuremberg list." They had the tag numbers of all the guys who worked at a nearby machine shop and parked in the same lot. If the rad right ever takes over those machinists are toast. Thinking about Am Fam Assoc wanting names for their poll reminded me of this. Very wise not to give these nuts your correct name or any other info. Wildmon, the guy who runs AmFamA has a brother who is a prominent Reconstructionist in Georgia. Posted by: Barbara on March 13, 2004 01:26 PMNancy, just reread your prediction re the Apr 23 period, and got my memory jogged again. Remember Oklahoma City & Tim McVeigh? Apr 19 or 20 is Hitler's birthday--this is an important date for white supremicists milita types. Waco, Ruby Ridge, and the execution of a white supremecist who murdered a DJ all took place around Apr 20. I don't kow how things are under Ashcroft, but when Reno was AG the feds would go on extra alert at that time of year. Domestic terrorists aren't getting much press these days but they are still out there. Posted by: Barbara on March 13, 2004 02:11 PMRe: "THE AGE OF PISCES" Without doubt, "The Age of Pisces" has ben and is Using RELIGION (the most SACRED of freedoms) as I hope and pray that if and when I re-incarnate, Barbara - I quite agree there could be a conneciton between any violent events of late April and the self-promoting Jupiter station on Bush's Mars of April and May. Post-9/11 there was a Jupiter station on his Sun, and we know how that went. Skyrocketing poll numbers. But this time, Saturn is waxing toward his Sun, so the boost in the polls won't be a strong and won't last very long. Still, I think it may be disconcerting for the short term. Watching him blunder is far more satisfying. We should also not forget the Mars Urnaus square of March 26 to 28. This is also a dangerous aspect, though I think it will manifest mostly in Iraq since it is in hard aspect to the Ascendant there. It could signal a big, nasty riot with a violent response, etc. Posted by: Nancy on March 13, 2004 05:54 PMThanks, Nancy, I write little notes on my calendar to keep up with your very accurate political predictions. Thinking about the zero year curse, Bush was not elected in 2000, but was selected in 2001. Re Oklahoma City Bombing, April 19, 1995, 9AM, I did a solar return and the sun is on the MC at 29 Aires with retro Mercury close at 26 Aires. This makes me think that domestic terrorism will be in the news again. T Neptune is opposite the Mars of the 1995 event. I have a creepy feeling about this. Re first ladies, the date I have for Laura Bush is Nov 4, 1946 Midland, Tx, no time, unfortunately. Shylurker, thanks for the Ctr for American Progress link--it is great. Posted by: Barbara on March 13, 2004 06:50 PMMy pleasure, Barbara. And thank you! Posted by: shylurker on March 13, 2004 07:17 PM* US revealed to be secretly funding opponents of Chavez [It is NOT a secret.] - US revealed to be secretly funding opponents of Chavez Wash has been channelling 100s of 1000s of dollars to fund the political opponents of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez - incl those who briefly overthrew the democratically elected leader in a coup 2 yrs ago. ... con't http://www.smirkingchimp.com/article.php?sid=15333&mode=nested&order=0&thold=0 There're some fine Canny Comments from fellow posters. ---- April 19th is my son's birthday, he can recite every bad event (and there are many) of that day :) I remember being stuck in the hospital on that Easter Sunday, weather was 85 and beautiful, everyone was having a ball, and I got rubber hospital lamb, lol. Posted by: Peg on March 13, 2004 09:40 PMRemember the incident in Zimbabwe, with the mercenaries? I'm spending a reflective afternoon, going thru files and I ran across a piece from about this time LAST YEAR... I copied it below because I can find only excerpts from it on VOA website: Zimbabwe’s Mugabe Attacks Bush, Blair as Imperialists Zimbabwe’s President Robert Mugabe has accused President Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair of trying to impose their will on weaker nations. In a speech at the Non-Aligned summit meeting in Malaysia Tuesday, the Zimbabwean leader said Mr. Bush and Mr. Blair are imperialists imposing a new form of colonialism on Third World countries. Mr. Mugabe said the United States and the Western powers have set double standards for themselves and others. He said the United States is pushing to disarm Iraq without taking a similar step to disarm itself of weapons of mass destruction. Mr. Mugabe said the sole superpower, the United States, is joined by Britain which he called a “born-again colonialist.” He said the two countries have turned themselves into, in his words, “hunting bulldogs as they sniff for Third World blood.” The United States and Britain have been among the harshest critics of Mr. Mugabe’s land policy that seized white-owned farms for landless blacks. They also criticized him over the alleged rigging of a presidential election last year that returned the Zimbabwean leader to office. White House National Security Advisor Condoleeza Rice told VOA that the behavior of Mugabe’s government before and during last year’s election was not appropriate and cannot be accepted in the modern world. Mr. Mugabe said his position as a president is more legitimate than that of Mr. Bush who, he said, became president because of a decision of the “Republican dominated Supreme Court.” And if you search this thread above you will find where this article is linked in a post by Jeanie: Zimbabwe Says Western Agencies Aided 'Mercenaries' HARARE, Zimbabwe (Reuters) - Zimbabwe said Wednesday U.S., British and Spanish spy agencies helped dozens of suspected mercenaries detained this week in Harare in a plot against Equatorial Guinea's government. He said the heads of the police and army in the tiny but oil-rich central African nation of Equatorial Guinea had gone along with the plot against the government of President Teodoro Obiang Nguema Mbasogo. "The Western intelligence services persuaded Equatorial Guinea's service chiefs not to put up any resistance, but to cooperate with the coup plotters," Mohadi said. He said the heads of the two services had been promised posts in the post-coup cabinet as a reward. Zimbabwean authorities had got the information from Simon Mann, who was detained in Zimbabwe Sunday as he waited to meet a plane carrying 64 men who were detained as suspected mercenaries, he added. Mohadi said Tuesday Mann was a former member of Britain's elite commando Special Air Service (SAS). Zimbabwe's foreign affairs minister said Wednesday the suspected mercenaries could face the death penalty. ---------- [You will note that the date of this article by Reuters is Mar 10th, day before the bombings in Spain] I have two questions for the intuitive, astute folks on this board: 1) what the heck is Spain doing hooked up to US and UK in matters beyond the scope of Iraq and 2) has anyone done a chart on Anzar of Spain who seems extremely cozy with the Anglos? I did a google search trying to find something with Spain for Mar 11 of last year... the Summit with US, UK and Spain was March 16, 2003 - but the US tested MOAB in Florida on 3/11, The UN Sec Council opened debate on Iraq that date with their proposed Resolution signed by US, UK and Spain, but never got needed support from the Council so it was scrapped, and Annan spoke at the Hague: THE HAGUE, Netherlands (CNN) -- U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan said an attack on Iraq would be a violation of the U.N. Charter if it does not have the support of the Security Council. Is anyone else interested in numerology? the numbers 11, 22 and 33 are significant -- they remain compound when adding digits, so that 3-11-2004 adds to 9-11 and there were 911 days between 9-11-2001 [which adds to 3-11] and 3-11-2004... any thoughts? I apologize for the long post. Namaste Posted by: Jo on March 13, 2004 11:03 PMPeg, as your son's birthday is April 19 maybe this coming year he will be in the spotlight. I expect his solar return would show the sun and mercury near the MC. A friend had that in her solar return last year and she was featured in the local newspaper as our foremost environmental activist, and received other recognition. Posted by: Barbara on March 14, 2004 01:10 AMHi Jo, interesting questions you pose. just realized that link did not work properly - try this http://www.spainview.com/cabinet.html Posted by: Jeanie on March 14, 2004 01:56 AM
I only have a passing acquaintance with The constant I can see in the dates you What about the dates of the Bali bombing It seems to me there is a message here. Re post above (who wrote?) I guess my point in the above is that perhaps part of the message is Spanish gov't is too cozy with US and UK and the PEOPLE are being punished... at least that's how the Spanish people are interpreting the bombings... they are accusing Anzar and his party of rushing to blame ETA when evidence points away from them toward Islamic fundamentalists --- with the arrest of the five today... they are angry, feel they have been lied too... 90% of them opposed the war in Iraq last March and they believed then that it would only increase terrorist activity... What I am really looking for is a chart on Jose Anzar... does anyone have any info on his dob, etc.? The number XI in Tarot corresponds to "Justice" btw... Joanna, where are you? You thrive on symbolism... I do too... I see it everywhere... Posted by: Jo on March 14, 2004 03:23 AMThrough the link I gave above, (under more info) it mentions Anzar's birthdate being Feb 25, 1953. Posted by: Jeanie on March 14, 2004 05:08 AM
Love and Peace Posted by: Corleonis on March 14, 2004 02:44 PMDo check out today's (Sunday's) Doonesbury. Posted by: shylurker on March 14, 2004 03:24 PM
I did a GOOGLE search on NUMEROLOGY. This is But I couldn't find the significance of the number By the way, I finally got to do Teresa Kerry's Love and Peace, Posted by: Corleonis on March 14, 2004 03:30 PMJeanie, thank you for the dob and the link... I read your post and then posted before I read the link! Sorry... Corleonis, I thought it was you who had written the post... thank you... I have a fair smattering of knowledge about numerology --- the numbers 11, 22, 33 refer to levels of "master" --- the number 11 itself when negative can indicate fanaticism. My heart goes out to the people of Spain... they have taken to the streets in the millions... they are very passionate folks... there's an awesome picture http://www.antiwar.com check it out today as their pics change daily... Shylurker, thanks for the Doonesbury tip... GT is awesome isn't he?! Posted by: Jo on March 14, 2004 03:52 PMFor Teresa Kerry's chart, see comments under previous article by Morgana. She posted it under the comments. Sharon Katz Posted by: Sharon Katz on March 14, 2004 04:27 PM
I would be grateful to anyone who could post a It is on the discussion boards, so you need to be "God Bless America, God Bless the Troops; here's the link, Corleonis: http://www.smirkingchimp.com/viewtopic.php?topic=37446&forum=4&start=0 Posted by: Peg on March 14, 2004 05:14 PMCorleonis, If it is not the one, here's what you do. [you ARE computer savvy, you just don't believe it!;-) First of all, you don't have to log in to read the comments on the articles... you only have to log in to COMMENT on the comments... and if you want to do that, it's easy too... just click at register and give them a 'handle' --- anyway, let's talk about posting links... Peace! and peace to our troops... about 250 of our people came home this week to our town... much joy... Posted by: Jo on March 14, 2004 05:17 PMCorleonis, There are lots of articles on the right-wing, the religious fanatics, etc. The question remains, for me anyway, how could anyway who believes in a g_d of love be filled with such hatred? A Brit, Geo. Monibot wrote an article a while back that strikes a cord for me... http://www.monbiot.com/dsp_article.cfm?article_id=595 he writes about "The United States is no longer just a nation. It is now a religion." I highly recommend it. Namaste Posted by: Jo on March 14, 2004 05:39 PMhttp://www.anastrologersperspective.com/ I have decided to show the public the letters, emails and -- yes -- even a BACKDOOR research article on the World Trade Center Bombing in 1993, that were sent to The Rand Corporation (wmdpanel@rand.org) and The Terrorism Research Center (TRC@terrorism.org). Now that all the fragmented information is leaking to the public, I have my own story for the American people to consider. It's been horribly frustrating to see what's coming, to make every attempt to get the information to people who might be able to do something about it, and then ... nothing. No response except a lot of visitors from government servers on my site, and a number of strange occurences about which I won't go into detail here. Just for my own peace, I want to say that I served my country BEFORE 9/11. More..... Posted by: Pat on March 14, 2004 06:25 PMPeg; You have the right link. Are you "Peggy" on SC,
Truth is, I have a horrible phobia of machines. Somebody said to me once that I was in Atlantis Jo: In the previous thread you asked me to show you http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2004/mar/HQ_n04040_solar_object.html Corleonis, thank you for the SPTimes link to numerology... it was very interesting... I've seen the actual chronological dates come up for Georgia Lottery numbers two or three times before... I put a lot of stock in what we think going out to 'the universe'... to others... physicists seem to be following the buddhist path to wisdom, just doing it with their rational mind which takes longer of course (about 2500 years!)... anyway their String Theory postulates that all there is, is information, that is RELATIONSHIP of information... (or Buddha consciousness?) Or, as Jung would say, sychronicity... Anyway, thanks so much for the info... and YES, I am still very much interested in Teresa's chart and the Vindemiatrix aspects... Pat, THANK YOU, THANK YOU so much for the link above... I checked it out and will have to go back and read again, and AGAIN... Namaste
I will let you have the info on Teresa Kerry later Today, unfortunately, Pluto is doing a number on By now, from my posts, you have pretty well figured that I am no fan of the three (Abramic) I am what I call a "reluctant" psychic: I see and Four years ago I was barely aware of a son of So, I have kind of kept it to myself and, when I Every time I hear the 'shrub' twist what he and That's what happened when I read that story in By the way, in my supermarket yesterday I saw a Who is their god: Manmon? Or Baal? Posted by: Corleonis on March 14, 2004 09:38 PMJo, you're welcome. Not your average article. I think she is pretty upset and concerned. Posted by: Pat on March 14, 2004 10:12 PMCorleonis, Namaste Posted by: Jo on March 14, 2004 10:31 PMThere're lots of anti-Christs... working against Light, Life & Love. There never has been "just one." And, yes, I would definitely say that bushie... all the bushies... are mega-anti-Christs. Posted by: JoannaOregon on March 14, 2004 11:29 PMI just about always refer to bushie as an anti-Christ--& why--when scrapin' with religiose freeper-types. It drives 'em crazy! And it's fun! ;O) Posted by: JoannaOregon on March 14, 2004 11:34 PMJo: How wonderful of you to do such selfless service!! New Mexico, I hear, is the place for these things Keep on loving and keep on giving. Your soul will Love and Peace Posted by: Corleonis on March 14, 2004 11:44 PMCorleonis - I also don't tend to think along those lines, but found myself wondering about whether or not Bush was the Anti-Christ. I thought about it a great deal during his first two years. It seemed like everything he did and does was to sow discord and create chaos in the world. I then began to think of it more like the Anti-Christ energy was being funneled through his adminsitration en masse, at least those in policy making positions. There is a series of books by Orson Scott Card called, I think, the Alvin Maker series. The first book is Seventh Son. One of the characters in the series is a rigid, self-righteous Christian minister. He gets these visits from a being whom we, the readers, know to be Satanic, but whom the character thinks is Christ (or an angel sent from Christ, don't rememeber). The point is how the grandiosity and lack of humility and attitude of "we are with God and everyone else goes to hell, making us special, etc." is in many ways inspired not by the Light but by a fraudulent light. (Remember Lucifer means "Light Bearer") There is a very fine line between being guided by the Light and being taken in by a dark fraud. The in-your-faceness and the self-righteousness and the grandiosity generally signal the dark forces. And when people so guided have so much power, the guidance can come from the biggest power brokers of Darkness, i.e. the anti-Christ. I'm not sure if that clarifies anything, but I think there is at least some truth in your ideas on this subject. I am just not sure how specific to be about it. Unfortunately, even if we get rid of Bush, I don't think we will have heaven on earth. He will have left an awful lot of destruction in his wake. I don't know what the actual prophecy says. Posted by: Nancy on March 15, 2004 12:40 AMWas startled to read the posts re Bush as the anti-Christ because several months ago read that many in the Vatican privately (they are always private and discrete, etc.) are concerned that Bush meets all the criteria, and is indeed He. (the anti). I was only amused because I don' t take the Vatican very seriously, but maybe they are on to something here. Posted by: Barbara on March 15, 2004 01:18 AMI believe the Anti-Light is in the conciousness of many leaders around the globe, not just Bushit. At this time they are all converging energies together in their battle for supremacy. So many countries withold the freedom of the people by the laws and/or dinosaur religious dogmatic programming. For an analysis of GWB: "Nice Guy or the Devil's www.geocities.com/trebor_92627//bush.htm Jo, maybe you could put up a link to it. I'll Corleonis, I am happy to post the link for you --- http://www.geocities.com/trebor_92627/Bush.htm Bhakti, thank you for your comments... I try to think that way... too often I get caught up in the "drama"... I see Dubya as a 'spiritual test' for us collectively... let's hope we pass! Namaste Hmmmmmm. 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