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TINY PEBBLES

On a JFK 40 year Commemorative Special, Don Hewitt, the Executive Producer of 60 Minutes and a TV Icon, recalled his memories of the Kennedy Assassination. When asked if he thought there was a conspiracy, he said “I don’t know, but I do know that every journalist has been shut out for 40 years and that the people who handled the investigation were either stupid, incompetent, or liars. When he was further asked if it made any difference anymore who shot JFK, Mr. Hewitt replied: “You bet, our government lied to us and we need to know, it’s the principle of the thing.”

It’s been said, “it’s not the mountains we climb that will cripple us, it’s the pebbles in our shoe.”

You know how it is, you are striding along up that mountain everyone is watching, you feel strong, powerful, a master of your destiny. Pretty soon a pebble, just a little one slows your step, you walk a little more gingerly but still smiling. Then another pebble, the smile has changed to a tiny grimace. More pebbles and you are gritting your teeth, holding your breath with every painful step, finally you can hardly walk but if you sit down everyone will know you are not the master of your destiny and people begin to make fun of your original bravado, plus, you can’t figure out how to get off that damn mountain.


9/11, terrorists, Iraq, these are mountains we are climbing. Medicare, prescription drugs, unemployment, tax breaks for the rich, national disasters that must be paid for, corrupt voting machines, the environment, up and down economy, WMD’s (the lack there of) Saudi Arabia, protesters, Enron, Ken Lay, Dean, Kerry, Clark, corporate corruption, all these things are “pebbles.” If you look closely you will see that America and GWB’s smile has moved just past “grimace.”

I have written over a couple dozen articles in this last month and not able to end one of them, I finally figured out that it’s all open-ended because we in America are still trying to figure out who we are and what we believe. With Solar Arc Warrior Mars rolling over natal America’s South Node we dug into our “war, war, war” past and are finding that war is empty, no real satisfaction there.

Saddam is in custody, but if you talk to many people there is a sense of “so what.” The “so what” attitude comes from a vague realization that Saddam really wasn’t our problem, and the question remains “without WMD’s, Saddam gone, the Iraqi people hating us, why are we there?” Oh yes, I remember, we all remember, it is so Halliburton can “skim” the American people.

The odd thing about Saddam’s capture (12/13/2003 – 8:30pm) is the positive aspect to his chart, particularly Mars at 28 Pisces in a respective sextile and trine to his Pluto/Jupiter opposition. The November 23rd Eclipse did aspect his 3-degree Sagittarius Moon and I expect his capture or whereabouts was known prior to that eclipse. George Bush’s photo op trip to Baghdad on November 27th was in essence a primitive male impulse to “mark his spot,” effectively showing Saddam that the rule of Iraq had passed to him, at least in his mind. I have no doubt that Saddam was someone’s prisoner before November 27th. Perhaps the Kurds (as reported in the DEBKAfile http://www.debka.com/ ) while they were negotiating for that $25 million dollar reward.

It is possible that the Bush Boyz also know where Osama is hiding. He would be a bit more tricky because of his ties to Saudi Arabia and the Royal Family plus the Carlyle Group where until recently the Bush and bin Laden families enjoyed a close business relationship. It gets murky around governments when they are owned by big business. Even as investigative reporting (when we can get it) pops up pockets of political and business slime, other pockets are being created and hidden.

We are willing participants in this charade thanks to Mars square Neptune in the US Chart and Mars co-ruling the 12th House along with Pluto the ruler. I believe we will get to see just how slimy and how much power we have given to our leaders. They have us out here fighting over who has our best interests at heart, the Democrats or the Republicans, when both parties need someone to dig into their schemes and corruption.

When Pluto hits the opposition to Mars and square to Neptune, we will see just how corrupt we are and have been.

The last time Pluto was aspecting those two planets was in 1967/68 and we saw the assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and Bobby Kennedy. Those murders along with JFK still have the smell of possible government involvement.

With Pluto in the 1st House, opposing Mars, there is a possibility of learning the truth about our collective selves and making changes or eliminating our social programs and lowering the social expectations of the next generation, it is our choice.

Pluto was conjunct Mars at 21 degrees Gemini in 1905, the start of entrenched rapture with anything on the screen, whether that was film or later TV. We have been sitting with our mouths wide open and hearts a flutter at any and all projected screen images. Not only in America but across the world. Massive amounts of money, honor, prestige, and glamour have been conferred on a small group of people who are able to command film time or can manipulate the business of celluloid, fantasy, and illusion. We are hopelessly addicted to all that is not real and Pluto is going to give us an opportunity to break that addiction, or at least see where it led us. The movies, politicians, truth, lies, illusion have all run together in the minds of the American people.

This Christmas I have been struck by the apathy and disinterest in the holidays. Could it be possible that materialism is losing its hold on the people. It’s more than a Mercury retrograde because it’s been coming since 2002. Look for signs in your own community of Pluto’s challenge to the illusions that have held us sway for 100 years and those illusions have helped us sweep the dirty laundry of this country under the carpet.

CONVENTION BELLS

When a Pope dies all the Cardinals enter a sealed enclave supposedly as equals (although not really) and when white smoke appears from the Vatican Towers we know a new Pope has been elected. The world is not privy to the backstabbing and political machinations. The Catholic world suddenly has a newly crowned Christ representative on earth, and we are led to believe that his spiritual walk is above mere man. The Democrats might take a page from that process this year, and get together on what’s important here. They don’t actually seem to have a unified message, and seem to be engaging in sand box fights.

Those on the inside of the different campaigns might have a different take, but those of us here on the outside aren’t hearing any real message. I know they are running against George Bush, but what do they want to change, what are they running for? What is the Democratic Platform this year? Do we know?

Here in Denver when you call to volunteer all you get back is a request for money; there isn’t any mobilization of the grass roots troops. Try calling the Republicans and asking to volunteer, by return mail you get the name of precinct leaders, contact people, volunteer opportunities etc. What on earth is Terry McAuliffe (3/15/52) doing? It would seem not much, course you can never tell with a Pisces, I hope he has some “magic” up his sleeve, because it looks grim right now.

The Dem Convention Chart (July 26, 2004) splashes all around. A little something for everyone I guess. I have taken a 12:00pm EDT in Boston; usually the gavel comes down around 4:00pm, in time for the evening news. Nonetheless, it will begin on a VOC Moon. There is a yod (finger of God) with a sextile between Mars (20 Leo) and Venus (20 Gemini) Chiron sits slightly off the apex point at 22 Capricorn and Saturn at the reaction point at 19 Cancer. The Moon in Scorpio promises some tension between the power brokers and before the convention is over the Moon will conjunct Pluto.

Every single candidate has a foot in the door at this convention; with John Edwards the strongest (that’s not to say he will get it) Howard Dean has his Sun conjuncting the VOC Moon. I want to see Dean as a clean sweep but I do not see it, he has an uphill battle with his own party that could wear him out before the election. Frankly, the Dems seem hell bent on shooting themselves in the foot. Might I suggest that all of you write Terry McAuliffe and voice your concerns.

More on both conventions and the New Year next week.

THE COLOR ORANGE

“Be afraid, be very afraid this Christmas.” Did everyone get the message from our Secretary of Homeland Security? There have been days on end since 9/11 that have been astrologically and energetically terrible, and we have had storms, accidents, the Challenger went down, bombs going off in Iraq and people dying and yes there has been chatter. But three days before Christmas the Grinch in Washington decided to pull the fear string to keep us dancing. I guess before he goes off to Crawford for the holidays he wants us to know we are in grave danger but not to worry the “daddies of the world” are in charge and will keep us safe.” Baloney.

Mr. Bush on the other hand probably is scared or feeling some anxiety unless he is on drugs. He is looking for his own Daddy to keep him safe. Pluto is right on his South Node and I know from my own personal client base that when Pluto is on one of the nodes there is fear and anxiety, I doubt if he is the exception. The Asteroid Nemesis is opposing his Saturn and Hebe is conjunct his Saturn, indicating some problems with Dad or another authority figure and making the capture of Saddam seem inconsequential, not the power surge he thought would come.

With Mercury retrograde and past the square to the US Natal Saturn and the Mercury of 9/11, I think the “orange alert” is a bit of overkill. A lot of the chatter Tom Ridge is talking about is more directed toward this administration as opposed to the people of America and the boyz are freaked and there are some dangerous looking lines going through Washington, DC on Christmas Day, but this isn’t the only bad day for Washington. The end of December and 1st of January isn’t a good time for George, I still question his health, mental and physical. Capricorn rules his 6th house and Saturn, even retrograde is exactly on his 12th house cusp, opposing the 6th. On January 2nd, the Sun will conjunct the 6th house and Mars will square. Wonder if he got his flu shot.

The bad news here is 2004 is going to be a tough year, the good news is it won’t be as hard at 2003 but if this country slides into too big a sigh of relief GWB will win the election. Right now for the best interest of the US, chaos is good.

As for Christmas, stand for peace and love within yourselves because that’s where we really find “peace on earth.”


Sally Cheyne McDonald on Dec 22 | Link
Comments

"Chatter" What on earth is "chatter." On one hand they tell us they can track our every sneeze, but they cannot pin down the "chatter." All the intelligence agencies in the world cannot pin down just one of these internet chatterers? Please. No wonder it was the Kurds that pinned Saddam down. Are we in danger? Yes, we are always in danger. Is it more because they put the color orange up? No. We certainly aren't in as much danger as the Afgans and Iraqi's are from us. The danger they are in on a daily basis from the US is real danger and they don't have the luxury of a color coded system.

Pluto is not opposing the US Mars just yet, it is opposing GWB's Uranus and conjunct his South Node, he could be in danger. If we survive at all, we must get past this fear every time this administration, who seems to get their kicks from lying to us, tells us they have heard "chatter" more "chatter" than ever, but they cannot tell us what that "chatter" is. They can't tell us whether we shouldn't fly, shouldn't travel, shouldn't go to malls, should buy gas masks, water, duck tape. I cannot get over the feeling of a bunch of yahoos sitting in a conference room and deciding to amuse themselves by telling people right before Christmas that they are in more danger than they were on 9/11.

Unless they plan on bombing us themselves they have no idea whether we are in more danger today than we were two years ago.

Posted by: Sally on December 22, 2003 08:27 AM

Marvelous article Sally, marvelous. I agree completely. Thank you so much for telling the truth about the Democrats, Bush, and the so called terror alert. I wondered to myself when I heard it, will Bush and cronies set something up themselves just for overkill at this point in cementing his place in the polls. Please keep us informed at this level, and keep up the good work, and thank you so much for sharing all this, it was concise, easy to read, and covered all the bases, totally.

Posted by: Isabelle on December 22, 2003 02:23 PM

Amen.

Posted by: Pat on December 22, 2003 03:26 PM

wonderful. Your writing is beyond outstanding, Sally. Thank you.

Posted by: Peg on December 22, 2003 03:41 PM

Oh Peg, you made my day. This is too funny, "a lover's tift." Blair will find himself increasingly frozen out. Dubbie doesn't like people who show signs of being disloyal.

This group reminds me of a story I heard last week from a friend. This friend is a hairdresser and one of the people she works with lost her mother last Thursday. The beauty shop called all her clients to tell them what happened and that they would have to rearrange their appointments with the other staff. One woman they called was extremely put out and said "well can she come in early Sat. morning just to cut the children's hair?"

This is the kind of world our administration lives in, no one is more important than they and no one better steal their thunder.

Blair is in deep trouble in England and with his own party, he will somehow, someway be gone by late 2004.

This little spat is just too funny.

Posted by: Sally on December 22, 2003 04:24 PM

well good deal, Sally!!! So happy to have something to give back :)

Posted by: Peg on December 22, 2003 04:52 PM

OMG! How perfet is that?!? Never ever trust a bush when it comes to money! Never ever try to put a chink in their ego! Never ever try to have a voice in their presence.

Sally that hairdresser story is so appropriate. Perfect symbolism of the fascist right think. I wonder if she is related to Bob Novak?

Posted by: Pat on December 22, 2003 05:26 PM

I just came across this amazing "factoid."
George W Bush's grandmother was a bridesmaid at the wedding of Dean's grandmother.
Does anyone else see some symbolism here?

Posted by: Jeanie on December 22, 2003 08:27 PM

Jeanie where did you see that?

Posted by: Pat on December 22, 2003 08:41 PM

It was included in a profile accessed through the christian science monitor political articles.

Posted by: Jeanie on December 22, 2003 09:12 PM

I was just wondering if you had a link.

Posted by: Pat on December 22, 2003 10:00 PM

Hello all,I'm typing this from a computer at the hotel that I'm staying at in FL. I just heard that CA experienced a 6.5 earthquake. Don't know any more details, like time etc. Guess it will be on this evening's news. I see there are a couple of new articles written, and lots of comments which I haven't goten a chance to read since I went offline before my move from NY. Since then, everything has been chaos and confusion more or less. Hope I can settle down soon, and restore some order in my life. It will be some time before my computer is up and running again. Hope to be in touch again then on a regular basis.

Posted by: Crystal on December 22, 2003 10:06 PM

Pat, heres the link. scroll down and click on Dean's face to get his profile. Source references are at the bottom.
http://csmonitor.com/2003/1222/p01s04-uspo.html

Posted by: Jeanie on December 22, 2003 10:16 PM

Crystal, yupper's we rocked. What I found fascinating after we stopped shaking and I looked at the chart, http://morganaseawalker.com/CambriaQuake.JPG

Pluto sitting on the MH. Interesting.

M

Posted by: Morgana on December 22, 2003 11:25 PM

http://www.misleader.org/daily_mislead/read.asp?fn=df12182003.html

White House Covers Tracks by Removing Information


In a high-tech cover-up, the Washington Post this morning reports the White House is actively scrubbing government websites clean of any of its own previous statements that have now proven to be untrue.1 Specifically, on April 23, 2003, the president sent his top international aid official on national television to reassure the public that the cost of war and reconstruction in Iraq would be modest. USAID Director Andrew Natsios, echoing other Administration officials, told Nightline that, "In terms of the American taxpayers contribution, [$1.7 billion] is it for the US. The American part of this will be $1.7 billion. We have no plans for any further-on funding for this."

The president has requested more than $166 billion in funding for the war and reconstruction efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan this year. But instead of admitting that he misled the nation about the cost of war, the president has allowed the State Department "to purge the comments by Natsios from the State Department's Web site. The transcript, and links to it, have vanished." (The link where the transcript existed until it caused embarrassment was http://www.usaid.gov/iraq/nightline_042403_t.html).

When confronted with the dishonest whitewash, the administration decided to lie. A Bush spokesman said the administration was forced to remove the statements because, "there was going to be a cost" charged by ABC for keeping the transcript on the government's site. But as the Post notes, "other government Web sites, including the State and Defense departments, routinely post interview transcripts, even from 'Nightline,'" and according to ABC News, "there is no cost."

This story is not the first time the President has tried to hide critical information from the American public. For instance, the president opposed the creation of the independent 9/11 investigative commission2, and has refused to provide the commission with critical information4, even under threat of subpoena5. Similarly, after making substantial budget cuts, the president ordered the government to stop publishing its regular report detailing those cuts to states6. And when confronted with a continuing unemployment crisis, the president ordered the Department of Labor to stop publishing its regular mass layoff report.

It is also not the first time the administration has sought to revise history and public records when those records become incriminating. As the Post reports "After the insurrection in Iraq proved more stubborn than expected, the White House edited the original headline on its Web site of President Bush's May 1 speech, "President Bush Announces Combat Operations in Iraq Have Ended," to insert the word 'Major' before combat." And the "Justice Department recently redacted criticism of the department in a consultant's report that had been posted on its Web site."

Sources:

1. "White House Web Scrubbing", Washington Post, 12/18/2003.
2. "Rice opposes public panel to probe 9/11", CNN, 05/22/2002.
3. "9/11 Families Criticize Slow Response to Commission Requests", FindLaw, 10/14/2003.
4. "9/11 Commission Could Subpoena Oval Office Files", New York Times, 10/26/2003.
5. "Seek and Ye Shall Not Find", Washington Post, 03/11/2003.
6. "Shooting the messenger: Report on layoffs killed", Freedom of Information Center, 01/03/2003.

Posted by: Pat on December 23, 2003 04:22 AM

The most serious thing that I have read this week was about Russia. They have de moth balled a lot of missles and have them ready to fire with nuclear war heads. They are able to hit 6,000 miles away. (Anyone know how far we are from Moscow). They are also building a bunch of more modern ones and upgrading the old ones, if they can find the money. Never would have happened without the Bush gang arrogance and stupid Iraqi war.

It is not smart to call the head of a nation "Puty Poo". I always knew that Putin was playing Bush for a fool.

Incidently Bush is going to Camp David for Xmas and then to Texas for New Years. Yup he is scared of something. Camp David is a lot more secure. I hope the rest of the Bush family does not decide to Xmas here in Southwest Florida-like they have been doing. If someone decides to "get um", it might mess up our ecology.

I see the convention as starting out trying to push Gephart, (Transiting Sun on his Pluto but moving away) but ending up with the people's choice Dean. I just looked at McAuliffe"s chart (thanks for the Birthday) and his power is moving away about that time.

Posted by: Jean on December 23, 2003 02:34 PM

Something that I have noticed in political politics is that trians and squares loose their signifigance. It does not seem that trians bring about winning anymore than squares, etc.
Of couse this makes sense when you see squares and oppositions as challanges. Winning just brings on more challanges and trians releives the tension of the race and toward a less stressful future.

Posted by: Jean on December 23, 2003 02:39 PM

Also I see Gephart winning Iowa, Dean sweaping victory in New Hampshire and Super Tuesday as a toss up. I will soon see if I called them right.


Posted by: Jean on December 23, 2003 02:45 PM

Jean, you are right about "trines and sextiles" but the reason they often times don't bring success (just as squares and oppositions do or can bring success) is it depends what is going on in the natal or pre-natal chart. A trine or sextile to a debilitated planet will set off the debilitation. That is why you can get hard results from seemingly easy transits.

Also too many trines or sextiles in a persons natal chart can make the lazy, things just come to them so easy and they never develop survival skills. They can also have a hard time understand what other people go through, no empathy

Posted by: Sally on December 23, 2003 03:09 PM

Sally, great read! I love your work and was hoping you'd post an article soon!! I do sense a foreboding in your writing whereas usually there is a strong sense of hope . . . plus the fact that you don't feel sorry for the shrub yet! I thought it VERY interesting that John Edwards looks bright at the convention, maybe Dean picks him for V.P.?? Not a bad choice by any means.

Jean, I love it when you post - you are fascinating. Question: You say "trian" instead of "trine." Just wondering why. Short for triangle? I've never seen anyone else use that.

Posted by: Laurie on December 23, 2003 03:11 PM

Oh my gosh Laurie, you are so intuitive. I do have a sense of foreboding but not for the reasons people might think. My foreboding isn't that the people won't wake up, or that the neo-cons won't fail, my concern is it won't be before the election. As I've said before, this whole process has nothing to do with Bush, it has to do with us (the collective us) I am so frustrated with the fear we all have and our unwillingness to give up the illusion that these people can protect us and their ability to rattle us with their color coding system.

I am also bothered by the free-for-all in the Democratic Party, that won't help the Dems. Saturn in Cancer conjunct the US Sun, Bush Sun and square US Saturn is indeed a karmic set up and someone will pay for that karma. The Karma of the US is tied to Mr. Bush's however, his is also tied to ours. My point is it may not be "his" karma that's paid, but ours. Ours because we don't stand up and say en masse "get out." Not yet we don't.

My feeling of hopelessness comes from timing. This isn't going to go on forever but I don't think it will end when we want it to end, that is my concern. I also see where Germany is ending her social programs, and Germany has the best history of social programs. We seem to be entering a period of "noblesse oblige," or trying to get there. It's been coming for quite a while and will take quite a while to unravel.

And I find that I do feel sorry for Bush, he is pathetic truly pathetic, but I have no sympathy for his administration and am losing sympathy for the Dems.

Did you hear that Hillary called a talk show the other day because they were slamming her? Hillary is starting to speak up.

Posted by: Sally on December 23, 2003 04:06 PM

Laurie, I just can't spell. It is probably Neptune in Virgo in the 3rd plus Saturn conjunct Mercury. It is some kind of learning problem. Never could and too late to worry about it. Need full time editor.

Posted by: Jean on December 23, 2003 05:42 PM

Jean, I know a woman who is very powerful, has written a couple of books and pretty well known. Like you, she cannot spell and doesn't care if she does or not. She has an editor and uses them to her advantage. She is funny, smart, and knows how to get things done. Her emails are a riot and she takes it as a badge of honor that she cannot spell, considers that it's the downside of the upside of creativity

Posted by: Sally on December 23, 2003 05:59 PM

"Mr. Bush on the other hand probably is scared or feeling some anxiety unless he is on drugs."

Sally, that's a definite possibility. Great article!

Posted by: Mary on December 23, 2003 08:37 PM

I just happened to run across a chart that says D.C. established. (Don't know where I got it or how accurate it is.) Anyway on Jan 1 there is a T square of Sun opposit Saturn square Mars at 9 Aries. On the DC chart the mid point of Mars and Pluto is 9 Aries. On the US chart the mid point of Mars and Pluto is 9 Aries. Also Transiting Pluto is conjnct the DC chart Sun.

No I don't think anything will happen because of the neptune effects in the chart. The transiting south node is square to the US sun neptune midpoint and transiting Venus is square US Jupiter Neptune midpoint. Transiting Uranus is opposite US Sun saturn mid point. Transiting Saturn is conjunct US Sun Jupiter midpoint.

I think this is a Bush, keep um scared tactic, which may just backfire on him.

The DC chart I used was for Dec 12, 1800. I have looked all over the place for my whitehouse chart but can't find it, but it was built at that time cause Abigale Adams had moved in already.

Posted by: Jean on December 23, 2003 10:01 PM

On second thought. What may happen is the Bush gang flys a plane by remote control over DC and they heroitically shoot it down. This might be their downfall. Mostly just a gut feeling and from what has gone before and what they are saying now.

Posted by: Jean on December 23, 2003 10:44 PM

i suggest more optimism than i'm seeing here. the two most sophisticated public opinion polls, zogby and harris report the following POST Saddam Bush ratings: approve/disapprove -- 53/47 and 50/49. zogby polling predicted the last three presedential elections w/in less than .5%! public realization is truly at hand when you look behind the veil of corporate media obfuscation. it's 11 months before the election and the only consensus of public support for bush is manufactured by corporate media polls (CNN, Newsweek, Fox). when half of the populace is opposing a 'war-time' presdient this close to an election, look for a leader to emerge that will express the frustrations and aspirations of a larger and larger group of Americans.

Posted by: mike on December 24, 2003 01:56 AM

I agree Mike about a "needed leader" to express the feelings of the voters, but right now it doesn't look promising. Actually if the media didn't treat the Democrats as a "group" I think one might have emerged by now. Even Dean is treated as one of the pack, that has to change and perhaps the media is looking for the Dems to change it themselves but thus far there is too much in-fighting.

Jean, the date the White House lists as first occupied is Nov. 1, 1800, it wasn't finished and Abigale had to hang the wash in the Green Room, but by Dec. 12th they were entertaining. It was nearly burnt down on Aug. 24, 1814 (consequence of the War of 1812) and then nearly (except for the 3rd floor) gutted During the Truman years and they lived in the VP Mansion.

The cornerstone was laid on Oct. 13, 1792, Washington started the project but didn't live to see it finished.

Posted by: Sally on December 24, 2003 02:10 AM

Bush's Christmas gifts...mad cow in Washington State, and oil drilling in Tongas. California went on an expensive E Ticket ride. Bush is getting a dead cat bounce, Sadam's arrest is a joke after they picked him up from the 'spidey hidey hole' the Kurds left him in. Orange Alert, more $$$$ for what? Chatter? I'm not biting. Did you hear the psycho Joint Chief of Staff, Gen. Myers thinks we should continue poisoning our troops with anthrax vaccines, mass guinea pigs, the Justices, not the Supreme's stepped up to the plate, and said nope sorry can't do that General.
Just keep feedin' the grass roots and let'm spread. The days grow longer and we all have to work to change the tide. Do we want another four years of Bush? Make a New Year's resolution, take action to make a difference. Wake up one more person with the truth about Bush's policies, keep passing it forward. One Fodder Unit at a time.

Posted by: Morgana on December 24, 2003 02:42 AM

That's really funny about spelling. I always won all the spelling bees all through school and even got to the state bee. (Mercury 12 Virgo) I was teaching my older brothers to spell (3 of them) to keep them out of trouble.

However, I would trade it for a peck of the creativity you guys have. I dream quite often about writing a book, and I still believe that book is in me. Hopefully one day I will be able to put pen to paper. I have a lot to give, if I can find the inner strength to face it all.

Sally, I understand your concerns regarding the next election. I think you have a very good point and I would not be surprised if Shrub got in again. If we re(select) Bush, the world will not only hate Bush, they will hate the American people too. Right now I think the American people have a pass because the majority of the world believes 2000 was a botched election. If the shrub gets the plurality, we will be despised.

Posted by: Laurie on December 24, 2003 02:53 AM

Maybe the rest of the world can come to our rescue. I was optimistic about the threatened sanctions to florida citrus etc. by the EU if the steel sanctions weren't lifted. Maybe they will see the danger of him being reselected and threaten to put sanctions on some of our exports anyway if this happens. The world is watching this election probably more closely than most Americans.

Posted by: Larry on December 24, 2003 03:15 AM

I haven't a clue as to the astrologers on this site I just "googled" up, but it is an interesting article.

http://www.estherandson.com/Articles/art_sag01.htm

Posted by: shylurker on December 24, 2003 03:26 AM

First I want to state I’m not versed at all in the of intricacies of astrology but started searching different astrology sites for some possible explanation or force beyond the obvious as to why Bush has not been impeached, tarred and feathered and run out of the West Wing by angry, enraged Americans. I wanted to discover some sort of reason why Bush with his vast ineptitude, ruthlessness, greed, pure stupidity and his systemic dismantling of programs and laws that have protected the American people for generations, just slides by without accountability. After finding this site, which I thoroughly enjoy, I have been faithfully reading the articles and finding a number of explanations to my Bush questions, based on each writer’s interpretation of astrology. But does any one foresee, anytime soon, any kind of wake-up call for America and an end to this hateful Bush siege that has place our nation/world in this despicable predicament.

Posted by: Carolyn on December 24, 2003 04:47 AM

I read this great artical by an sociologist that explains the white male vote for Bush. They come from a psycological place where the male was head of the household, the provider and keep his wife and children "in their place."

They are under the illusion that Bush will give it back to them. They also see Bush as a former screw up that has become president and it gives them hope.
It is a deep psycological thing and the Bush gang know exactly what they are doing to keep the illusion. That is the reason that the right wing talk shows bash Hillary so much. She is an out of control woman to them and Bill did not keep her under control.

They don't realize that their jobs are going because of Bush, rather dwell in the illusion that he is a stong father figure.

So psycologically it will come down to if at election time they still want the strict father figure or the nuturing, giving father represented by Dean. I am hoping that their respect for the family doctor may just make the edge that Dean needs.

Something that I have noticed. The majority of the country are just getting to see Dean-as opposed to us political junkies. The more that see him, the higher his ratings go. He is double digits ahead of the pack, country wide in the latist polls.

Who he is bringing in is young people. 25% of those for him are under 25 or 30-forgot which. His campaign crew is very young, averaging about 27.

I still say that his Sun trian Saturn on the day the electorial college votes may show him as the next president. The young white male may not be so into the strong father as head of the family.

Posted by: Jean on December 24, 2003 05:37 AM

So much depends on the press. It isn't that the scandals aren't there, or the issues on the table indeed, some of the issues could be fodder for a court of law, but the Democrats are not really beating the drums (they are fighting each other) and the media keeps letting the lies and corruption abound. However, I noticed that Bob Novak's columns have a bit of an anti-administration tinge from time to time, this might be a good sign that the media is getting fed up (to a degree)

Neptune will soon pass into the USA's 3rd house could be more obfuscation or even more spin, it could also signal a revelation of the lies and the illusions we have built around our country and our government.

There is a split of spirits or souls in this country and it shows in our polls. Nonetheless, we are connected to the whole, all of the whole and what is going on today is somehow representative of the confusion and split within our own spirit, nothing will change until our own disconnection within ourselves and toward others is resolved.

As we face another uncertain year reach out in kindness to as many strangers as possible, work toward what you believe to be best for all and above all keep the concept of the greater good in your hearts. Believe it or not you, we, all of us have the power to change the world.

Posted by: Sally on December 24, 2003 07:26 AM

You have the power!!!

- Howard B. Dean, M.D.

Posted by: Laurie on December 24, 2003 09:06 AM

Happy New Year everyone!

Sally, I can remember distinctly you saying in one of your articles that Saddam and GWB are inherently linked and Saddam has the goods on him and could be the one to expose him, if he lives to do so. Something like that. Thought I would pass on this article for your perusal.

Saddam Threatens to Expose US
P.K. Abdul Ghafour, Arab News Staff
http://www.arabnews.com/?page=4§ion=0&article=37091&d=27&m=12&y=2003

JEDDAH, 27 December 2003 - Former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein, now being grilled by American investigators, has reportedly warned US authorities that he will expose Washington's "political games" and its behind-the-scene role in the occupation of Kuwait.
"Saddam threatened that if they continue to pressure him he will reveal startling facts - about America's political games with his country - that would shock the whole world," Al-Watan Arabic daily quoted a high-level European source as saying.
The source said Saddam had stopped answering the investigators' questions and asked them to "give him enough time to clear his mind." He did not elaborate further, the source added.
The source confirmed that the investigators approached Saddam with a list of Iraqi scientists involved in the development of weapons of mass destruction but Saddam told them that they were developing nuclear and chemical technology for civilian purposes, the paper said.
According to the European source close to US investigators, Saddam also said that he would ask the International Court of Justice in The Hague to try the United States for its crimes against the Iraqi people for allegedly using internationally prohibited weapons against the Iraqis during the last two wars against his country.

"If the Americans want to try me in a court of law, they should also try high-ranking international officials," the source quoted the former Iraqi dictator as saying. Saddam has insisted that his statements are recorded verbatim, the paper said. The source said Saddam neither prayed not read the Qur'an, it added.

Posted by: Laurie on December 30, 2003 08:30 PM

Thanks Laurie, I had seen the article and thought "ah ha" but re-reading it again makes me wonder if Saddam smuggled out papers or absolute proof of how involved the Reagan/Bush/Bush team has been with Saddam's activities. I also wonder if Saddam is going to turn up dead and I wonder why that hasn't happened/

Posted by: Sally on December 31, 2003 04:18 PM

I'm mystified about his being taken alive, too. Perhaps he'll suffer the same fate as Jack Ruby.

Posted by: shylurker on January 1, 2004 04:36 PM

I still say that's not Hussein. No billionaire worth its money is gonna stay in a country about to be invaded by cocky (& I DO mean cocky) struttin' AmeriCo-anglos & wait around for them to pick him up, all dirty & filthy, out of a "hidey-hole." It's a shuck! It's another convenient Old Males' Tale cooked up by insane cons.

Posted by: JoannaOregon on January 2, 2004 06:02 AM

Why any of us insist on believing the cons, who do nothing but lie & consistently caught in them, is beyond me. Oh... well, THIS time they must be telling the truth. Abe Lincoln was wrong... all the people CAN be fooled all the time... it's the only conclusion to which I can come.

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