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"ROAR" the new moon in Leo
First this message from Gaia....
It has been roughly 73,000 years and counting since the last time Mars, moved into such close proximity with our terra firma, the last time of his visitation resembled aremeggadon, hmm..pause for thought isn't it? Super Volcano's, we have one in our own backyard, it's called Yellowstone. Just a little itty bitty reminder that when Sumatra blew it's stack with our Mars envoy scientists estimated the earths population at around 1.5 million (million not billion), when the ash settled mankind numbered around twenty-three thousand. We're just a tad volatile and that's geophysically. Japan is experiencing horrendous earthquakes, each seems larger than the last. Our weather extremes worldwide have caused widespread death, damage and destruction from floods, fires, and the Finger's of God, twister's pummeling Tornado Alley. Be wise. The date, August 27, 2003, and like all of you I would like it to pass without triggering Gaia's temper.
(The Chart) Feels like the American People are waking up, nothing like the roar of an angry nation expressing itself. The transiting New Moon in Leo 5 degree's in the U.S. 8th House, it's time for America to see the brave new world Bush has created for them, and our national horror and shame is only beginning, each lost troop, each lost Iraqi. Roar People make your voices heard over the din of big money and Republican greed.
Transiting Chiron Rx in opposition to the U.S. natal Sun, whatever the Sun has buried in darkness will be forced to the surface bubbling up as it were from the bowels of the earth (Capricorn my volcano folks, I've never met a passive Capricorn, they're like molten rock), take the heat and humidity of a record hot summer, a little lightning for zip, inundate well with rains of the Century (and the Century just started) and you have a formula of high octane for one furious Nation! Roar People no jobs, no food, no housing, no medicine, no money and that's in America! Transiting Pluto is in parallel to the U. S. natal moon, adding power to the People super sized, use the energy the stars give you. The Nation may find itself in the midst of yet another crisis, for Bush has alienated the U.S. from the rest of the world, our friends/allies are unlikely to lend a hand to a losing proposition (see them run), and the big corporations can't siphon off any Iraqi assets until the population settles down, which it isn't despite how badly we treat them they're just not coming around to the American way of thinking. Odds are stability will not be achieved in Iraq, and boy are they (George's friends) out a lot of bucks. Well we are actually. Forty-eight of fifty states are in financial and social crisis. Wait till they come after your state next, first California, then who? Oregon? Washington? Nevada? Unemployment, small business failures, personal bankruptcies and foreclosures, the American dream in tatters with the Constitution and the Bill of Rights all laid out for the world to see. The Great Republican's are Bushwhacked, failures, and America's humiliation how does it taste? The blood on your hands, it won't wash off. Saturn, any questions?
The latest bumper sticker....GOT RIGHTS? Patriot Act II is being ramroded through the Congress by the Republican Majority, quick, before it's too late. See Jupiter and Mercury are in the 9th House of Justice, oh, yes, in Leo, ROAR!!!!! Watch the press ROAR! Will Justice turn her blind eyes to her people? Oh, that's right Ashcroft had her removed for indecent exposure.
Now on the new Moon here, Mars is coming to a stop and turning retrograde, yes, right here, right now. The Mars/Uranus power play in the U.S. Third House of the Press/Media has a vast political ocean to roil and boil. Mars is going inward, what timebombs are waiting to go off in Bush's hidden book of tricks and trade agreements? Well it's going to come bubbling out all over. Mars is pouring on the power in a parallel aspect with the U.S. natal moon, anger, agression, those who have been suppressed are raising the voices, saying, 'What is going on!? What are you doing to American People you Jerk!' Bush lied people died for his Texas Tea, very angry tea party coming...something like a tempest in a teapot. The Brits who are coming too! The UK Guardian is looking to bring the truth back to America since our media is corrupted by big business and the smooth move Michael Powell (Colin's boy) made for the Media outlets who were already owned 45% of many of the marketplaces this gets his biggest contributors out of legal trouble. See Uranus and Mars in Pisces in the US. 3rd. suprise, suprise. Couple inconjuncts here, triggers, pow, trip wire pow, delayed timer pow, Uranus is inconjunct with the U.S. Midheaven (the house of the pResident), add Venus who is just entering Leo at 0 degrees sextiling the U.S. Midheaven as well and in all likelihood we will hear yet again what a wonderful Cowpie we have in that Office! The other handy inconjunct is transiting Mercury triggering the U. S. natal Pluto in the U.S. 2nd, ouch our asses once again.
What the People have with this new moon is power, power to make their voices heard, power to make the world hear. Now if only the occupants of the 11th would serve the people who elected them, not the ones who bought them, American's might make some headway in stopping this mad man and returning the country and it's people so financial stability. The standard for impeachment of President Clinton was lieing, the standard is a lie. Impeach Bush he lied, is lieing and the People are dieing every day for his lies.
Copyright © 2003 by Phoenix Rising
Morgana Seawalker on Jul 28 |
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Thanks Morgana! The sands are shifting, and the crabs are feeling the heat.
Here's a factoid I came across:
"In every presidential election from 1900 through 1972 one of the two major party candidates was nominated with the Moon Void of Course. Every one of the candidates nominated with the Moon Void of Course lost.
"Jimmy Carter's 1980 nomination came in a Void of Course Moon."
"[Al Gore's 2000 nomination came in a Void of Course Moon. ---DK-S]"
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Have hope, in 2004, the Dems will NOT likwly nominate during a VOC Moon (given the current projected timeframe), but there is a strong likelyhood (if the Chimp has to stay up past 9) Bush will will be the 2004 VOC Moon nomination.
Vis, shhhhhsh.
Morgana, your article gives hope that the people will wake-up from their drug (the drug of false patriotism, and a deceitful administration backed by powerful media) induced sleep.
Excellent analysis.
There was only one subject I flunked in highschool......typing. Becaues it was so difficult for me to type then, I had to type and retype one sentence used as a standard practice sentence over and over again.
"Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country."
That's what comes to mind here. "Now is the time."
Thanks for your musical way of telling us what is otherwise difficult.
Peace and blessings to you Morgana for your heart and your work.
thanks morgana! but WHEN are cheney's stars 'bad'? because that's the motive for the lie: the energy papers which include the map of iraq from spring 2001...when he goes that's when it's going to come tumbling down..
anyone watching his chart?
Excellent article Morgana!! I know someone else mentioned this, but you do have a magical musical quality about you . . . even your name!!!
I, for one, am ready to hear the people's roar!! Bring 'em on!! Loud and clear!
And now at nearly the Saturn return of Watergate scandal we hear from Mr. Magruder that yes indeedy the tricky dick DID order the break-in!! Directly!! Doggonit I wish it didn't take 30 years for the truth to come out and I certainly hope we're not still hearing about the Bush administration's antics 30 years from now. But, the way of Saturn is the way of Saturn . . .
The (p)resident is a Cancer, hail Saturn!! I am glad I made my peace with Saturn long ago, since he follows me around wherever I go (Saturn/Sun conjunction). It's not all bad to be responsible (for the most part) and wanting to do everything perfect (ha ha ha Virgo). However, people like me can be pretty hard on themselves, but I'm getting much better.
I would not want to face the great Saturn knowing I had done wrongly. No thank you. Never, nada!!
Everyone have a GREAT new lion moon!! ROAR to your newspapers!! NOW!
Shylurker, isn't that something, the Pentagon turning itself into "bookies." Have they gone nuts, don't answer that because the answer is yes. As for Cheney Roxanne, I am watching his chart closely. Neptune in Aquarius has been moving back and forth over his Sun. Cheney's Sun is at 10 degrees 48 minutes of Aquarius and Neptune will be, once again, conjuncting that point exact (retrograde) on Sept. 11 (ironic) and again in Nov. Neptune just clouds everthing over for us and then exposes the yuck below when it passes. He also has Pluto conjuncting his Mars square his Moon (oh dear that one is nasty) The fall of 2003 looks to be very very difficult for Mr. Cheney, wherever he is. Of course he could expire and we might not know it for years, just assume he is still in his undisclosed location.
Let's look at Mr. Rove. I don't have his birthtime but no matter what time he was born on Christmas Day in 1950, his moon is in Cancer. Which, in Hindu Astrology, gives him a Sade Sati, that's when Saturn is in the sign before, during and after the Moon sign. the worse is when it's in the sign of your Moon, and here we have Saturn in the sign of his moon. According to the Hindu's it's very bad luck. My goodness, Condi Rice's Moon is also in Cancer, she and Karl will possibly have something in common, and that is being shown the front of the White House door.
Cancers all over the place! "Viagra Bob" Dole's has a cancer sun... he was hawking his drug of choice whilest his wife ran as prez candidate (hahaaaa!) There're several more, too. Seems to me that as the "Dominator-Over" patriarchal model of social oragnization disintegrates before our very eyes, under which humans have lived far too long, the more its very abused collective anima runs to its abuser for protection in these last minutes. A classic dynamic of the spiritually unwell.
The neo-cons et al, it seems to me, are not only rapidly devolving out of 7 y/o stage... bad enuf... but are now quickly entering the poopy diaper infant-terrible stage. Wofie's et al debauch on the Sun morn blab fests, for instance, was hilarious awa disgusting. A full acct here under the subtitle "Defeat the Prez" (tho pls keep in mind the writers are no friends of the neocon so it may be a tinge biased... heheh). http://www.americanpolitics.com/20030727punditpap.html
Hope this isn't off-topic, but has anyone looked at Arianna Huffington's astro info in her race for Cal Governor? Not sure of her birth information, but she's virulently anti-Bush and it would be great having her at the helm.
Jonathan
"Betting on Terrorism" is being discussed on C-Span this morning and people are enraged! Shylurker thanks for the heads-up on that. It is hard to believe! The gall!
I'm guessing that's also what these infant terribles were doin' with the stock mkt "puts" on two airlines before the 9/11 attack.
Grunt Perspective from Fiore
http://www.markfiore.com/animation/grunt.html
and....
Troops near collapse in Iraq heat
London Times 29/07/2003
The Ministry of Defence has said it is doing what it can to improve the conditions of servicemen and women in Iraq where temperatures are hitting 120F.
But a number of soldiers from units within 19 Brigade have reportedly claimed that troops are without basic welfare, including air conditioning and cool water, and were using fly-infested chemical toilets.
Personnel who spoke out said basic facilities had remained the same since the war. A corporal said: "If you can't sleep because of the heat, your efficiency and general health decline rapidly. People are in a state of collapse after three or four days. Most of us are still 'bird bathing' in water from bowser trucks poured into metal or plastic basins."
The MoD said the living conditions of troops in the Gulf is a serious issue: "Given the intensity of the heat out there, we are doing our very best to improve conditions."
A flight reported by a newspaper to be carrying casualties home from the Gulf had 37 personnel on board. Twelve were displaying signs of heat intolerance or stress.
As I read through all these great posts, I heard this morning, there is a CODE YELLOW warning of "possible terrorist activity" similar to the 9/11 tragedy, which may happen later this summer.
Now yes, I have read all about MARS-yet its seems to me like everytime the BUSH Administration is coming under serious criticism, scrutiny and being held accountable(God forbid) for their words and actions, the TERROR ALERTS all of a sudden increase!!!
Perhaps its just a coincidence.
Good to know there are other people in this world who dont seem to be oblivious to what is happening to our government and country.
Again-I am grateful for this site!
http://salon.com/news/feature/2003/07/29/huffington/print.html
At a meeting of Hollywood and progressive supporters in her West L.A. home, Arianna Huffington gets ready to run for governor. Her goal: take Sacramento and shake Washington.
It's not official yet, but she's off and running. That was the message at Arianna Huffington's home in posh Brentwood, Calif., on Sunday afternoon, where several dozen political activists and advisors gathered to hear the author and Salon columnist make her case for jumping into the race to recall California Gov. Gray Davis. The only thing that would keep Huffington out of what is shaping up as an electoral free-for-all would be the sudden entry of a major Democratic rival to Davis -- and Sen. Dianne Feinstein, the only likely such 800-pound gorilla, is still rejecting entreaties to rescue the party from the rapidly melting Davis.
"If Feinstein runs, I won't," Huffington told the Sunday gathering. "This campaign is to win, not to be a spoiler and hand the state over to the Republicans."
More.....
jh, This is for you.
http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/newssentinel/news/editorial/6401294.ht
Bush's script leaves Americans helpless
Comedians make fun of how President Bush talks.
But they're missing the skillful way his words keep people on edge and afraid. Renana Brooks captured that in a June 30 article in The Nation. She said Bush is a master of ``negatively charged emotional language.'' He uses a ``dependency-creating'' script as a political tool to dominate others.
Brooks said in an interview last week that many Americans view Bush as stern and authoritarian. He's the ``angry father'' on domestic issues and the ``holy warrior against the terrorists.''
``It doesn't matter what he says,'' said Brooks, a clinical psychologist in Washington who leads the Sommet Institute for the Study of Power and Persuasion. ``All of the images blur into one that he's going to stand up and protect us.
``When you're terrified and when you're totally scared your thinking breaks down. You don't want to do anything except believe he's doing the right thing.''
In The Nation, Brooks wrote: Bush ``employs language of contempt and intimidation to shame others into submission and desperate admiration. While we tend to think of the dominator as using physical force, in fact most dominators use verbal abuse to control others.''
Brooks said Bush is a heavy user of ``empty language.'' Examples are such words as righteousness, evil, moral and justice. Those words mean different things to anyone who uses them.
More......
I think most of us out here know.
The criminal bushie uses the language put into his mouth by the speech okay'er, criminal karl rove. He picked bushie as his sweetie-pie & we can see why.
jh ~ Hey Bushie's poll number's are slippin' gotta frighten the People and raise those old alerts: Yellow Yellow more states bankrupt, 1, 2, 3.. The increased level of fear they engender in us, more fear we have, the more control they have over us. Take that hammer out of their hands.
It's those boyz' who should be tarred, feathered and run out of Washington...okay I'll settle for IMPEACHED!
They may have to substitute that for actual intelligence. Well, maybe in the next administration. These are the nut boyz.
Fight back by letting go of fear.
yes, my husband and i went to bed reeling last nite at this 'bet on horror' thing was being discussed to start this week!!! i said, "that's it, i'm moving i can't take this!" but thankfully, it's been stopped. definitely shows you how bloodthirsty rummy and co are - sick!
thanks for all the info on the woman in brentwood; i don't live far from there, and i hope she picks up speed so i can vote for her.
the alerts do always go up when the people are about to cry out and put down the govt..but considering mars, it's probably true this time?
personally i really want to see condi go down, she's ALWAYS given me the heebie jeebies, looks a bit anorexic and has a crazed look in her eye. she is definitely over having stated so fiercely that the war was so necessary yet she didn't even know about the exact state of iraq's arsenal? or did she? O-VER!
this is THE hippest site on the web, take it from a 43 year old radical rock n roller! it's hipper than michael moore's site, and that takes a lot!
Wow Pat,
Thanks for that reprint from the Nation. Not only the 'empty language' but the 'empty' way GFB reads the script. He does not even change his inflections and speaks in monotone like all good puppets.
Dear Morgana et al,
Meanwhile there are still no signs of higher intelligence where I live...false patriotism everywhere - I hope C. Heston gave Bush a piece of his mind when he was given his national hero award...not all conservatives think these guys are great. I am so pessimistic - especially with no hope of decent employment in site...I really think we need the natural disasters for America's wake up call...things will get worse with so many unaccountable self righteous bullies in power...the Americans in my home town hover in that grey consciousness between apathy and follow the leader (he is 'christian') - I come here for some hope but there has got to be alot more slips and public confrontations before Americans get it ---before they even take a moment to reflect on the big picture...The level of astrological analysis here is way beyond my education but I know nowhere else to get the depth of pertinent discussions about these events that greatly affects our lives...and I do not feel so powerless but much work and diligence is needed which I think Morgana always drives home...Since we do not really get the news too well these days - all these difficulties we see in B's administration's personal charts may well not be seen soon enough to wake people up because everything is kept private- it be great if people could spend a 'real' day in the oval office and we got to hear all the secret dealings...I wonder if people would really like these guys or still feel so compelled to support them --- our troops in 120 degree weather and the madness will only grow...the natural disasters are the only way people are going to get the bigger message - we still televise those. God help us all.
Your posts here and the ever heartful Howard Zinn are helping me through this miserable time - Cornel West said it in Santa Fe - and I cannot quote it exactly - Let's face it, America is at a miserable low point in its' history - I wish Americans would at least admit that much.
Peace is not a four letter word - I think I'll dwell on it for awhile.
M.
Sally, et al,
an earlier entry jiggled my memory re: Karl Rove. I recalled something about him being adopted and here is an excerpt from a New Yorker magazine article about him. It has important stuff, I think, for anticipating how upcoming transits will affect his nasty ass.
"Rove, who is fifty-two, has always appeared to be affable and extroverted he has a foghorn voice and an innocent face, with pale-blue eyes, a tuft of flyaway blond hair, and light skin that flushes when he's angry-while, at the same time, being very hard to know well. His few close friends knew that in the period preceding his roaring entry into the College Republican world he had been through a tough, even searing, time. His parents' marriage had ended on his nineteenth birthday-Christmas Day, 1969-when his father walked out. Then, shortly afterward, Rove received a second and more unexpected blow. In Illinois, he had dinner with an aunt and uncle, and, during a discussion of his parents divorce negotiations, they casually mentioned that the man he thought of as his father actually wasn't. "I literally, I think, dropped my soda," Rove told me, in one of three long interviews we had in his office in the West Wing of the White House. In a family of five siblings, he and an older brother were the children of another man, whose connection to his mother had been kept secret, at her insistence, all the time he'd been growing up. Among his friends in College Republicans, the story, to the extent that it circulated, took the form that he had been adopted which is somehow not quite as upsetting. One person remembers Rove saying to him, "Whose birthday is on Christmas Day. You have to be kidding! They didn't know exactly when I was born, so they just took a guess." But when I asked Rove about it he said the real story is that he was, as it were, half-adopted. I asked him if he'd ever found out who his real father is, and he said that he had, but didn't meet him until many years later, when he was in his forties. He got in touch with the man, arranged to visit him, and was greeted with a chilly reception. Rove spoke of his adoptive father in a tone of fierce admiration, love, and loyalty, for, as he put it, "how selfless his love had been," as shown by his willingness to play, persuasively, the part of a blood parent for two decades. The bond between Rove and his adoptive father became even more important, no doubt, after Rove's mother committed suicide, in Reno, Nevada, in 1981."
And in case anyone would care the URL is http://bnfp.org/neighborhood/Lemann_Rove_NYM.htm
Oh good lord, so there is no birth date for Rove? Of all the people (and I use the term loosly) to lack such vital data on, it has to be him. Ugh!
"I'm guessing that's also what these infant terribles were doin' with the stock mkt "puts" on two airlines before the 9/11 attack."
You know Joanna, you may be right about that. Did you also notice that the "betting parlor" idea was launched just before the news that a second attack on the airlines is being planned by Al Qaida? I am sure they had already had that information before they came up with the betting idea.
I was watching President Bush with Ariel Sharon at the White House today, and it is plain to me that on the Israeli/Palestinian issue, as with so many other issues, Bush speaks with forked tongue.
I also think that the Saudis are being made the scapegoats for something else that the Bush administration wants to keep hidden between those classified 28 pages of the 9/11 report. King Fahd is imploring them to declassify the information, so that they can defend themselves against the charges, but Bush insists that it remain secret for security purposes.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0729-06.htm
George A. Akerlof, 2001 Nobel prize laureate who teaches economics at the University of California in Berkeley has come out to say: "This is not normal government policy. Now is the time for (American) people to engage in civil disobedience. I think it's time to protest - as much as possible," the 61-year-old scholar added.
We are being pleaded with to protest this "worst ever" president!!
I'm sure people all over the world must be questioning our administration's sanity at their suggestion of making a market on predictions of terrorist attacks. Could the Pentagon sink any lower than this? Guess we just have to wait and see.
Not just having folks betting on terrorists attacks and assassinations, but warning that airplane attacks are likely in the near future--and then pulling the air marshalls off cross-county and international flights. This is nuts!
Oh gee, Pat, Ferengi?? I must have missed that. Please share. Thank you!
By the way, did anyone catch the Prospects for Iraqi Reconstruction on C-Span today? The Senators shaped Mr. Wolfowitz a new ass-hole! All the questions I wanted to ask him, they asked him!! This administration is still trying to tie Iraq with 9-11. It is totally disgusting!
Also, the dead bodies of Saddam's sons I think are very sad. I know they were probably awful people, but to show this on TV to the Islam world which believes very strongly that the dead must be buried within hours (not days) of passing. It must be torture for them to see these unburied bodies. I also felt very sorry for Saddam (okay, yell at me), but to have your children's dead bodies on display?? This is sick, very sick!! Americans must seem to have absolutely no compassion whatsoever to the rest of the world.
I liken the neocons to the fictitious race of small men in the Star Trek universe, the Ferengi. They are a dogmatic race who base EVERYTHING they do on profit. Profit is honor to them, and life itself is there to exploit for profit. Anything done which does not garner a profit is below contempt. They keep their women unclothed and behind the scenes. They are rather nasty in temperament and completely lacking in scruples. Their IQ is ..... small. Oh, and they are fairly ugly too. I guess that's why neocons are systematically treated to make overs, to hide their Ferengi appearance.
When things get darkest, I look at our present cast of characters and I see the Ferengi. It's not a joyful laughter, but still I have an opportunity to laugh for a moment.
Laurie, I won't yell at you. I think the dead should be treated with respect, no matter what they were accused of when they were alive. All it will do is inspire more hatred of Americans and have others wondering if we are barbarians. I'm sure even the Iraqis who hated the Husseins think that they should be given a decent Muslim burial. It's time for the gloating to be over. In fact one of the members of the Iraqi Governing Council(not Chalabi), said as much. I wonder what they did with the body of Uday's 14 yr old son.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3105129.stm
This sounds like Saddam's farewell speech:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3108369.stm
Correction to an earlier post in which I stated the Arab representative, who visited Washington to dispute the 9/11 report was King Fahd. It was not. It was
Prince Saud Al Faisal, the Foreign Minister. Impossible to keep track of all those Arab names.
From my email...
Me: (Is the pardoned criminal m**f**r poindexter placing bets on how long it will be before the troops die in the heat?!?!"
Article: Troops near collapse in Iraq heat - The Min of Def has said it is doing what it can to improve the conditions of servicemen & women in Iraq where temps are hitting 120F. But a number of soldiers from units within 19 Brigade have reportedly claimed troops were w/o basic welfare, incl air conditioning & cool water, & were using fly-infested chemical toilets.
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From my emailer: I passed this on... And a friend who listens to Short Wave, replied:
FYI
I heard today that 100s, maybe 1000s, of troops are going over the hill. For a fee, Iraqis are smuggling them out into adjacent countries. The soldiers get Arab clothing & papers. Hmm...
We won't hear that in the mainstream press. I guess we must wait until the BBC or The Guardian confirm this before putting this out on the Internet. B
Me: Now THAT rings more true! Thanks B.
There has been a call from the neocon criminals for over 1,000 Oregon Nat'l Guard... if I were one of them, I'd be making it fast for the Canadian border! And we might find that they ARE making it fast for the Canadian border! All for sending fat lazy southern fried chickenhawk freepers to Iraq to fight for the "liberated" Iraqians & diapered cowboy bushie's gold lame pursies, scream "AYE!" AYE!!!!!!!
Please Joanna, you have me in stitches (lol).
Hey, thanks for the Ferengi thing - one has to trawl for laughs where one can these days. Oh my God, I can't take it anymore. The Pentagon betting thing is just - Gack. Thud. Splat.
The Pentagon betting thing is doing what it needs to do; it's making the soldiers see what they didn't want to. Some are even asking questions about why the air marshalls are being pulled, as the terror talk escalates. As for their rebellion- estimates are that 2500 have AWOL'd into Turkey. P.S. Morgana- my [belated] applause for the article! You have such a sing-songy way about you, and I LOVE your wit!
Looking farther ahead (since the present is so bizarre, I need a little break in focus), Howard Dean has his Mars at 23 Sag, Jupiter at 0 Cap and Uranus at 29 Gem (see Starcats for chart, which I think I've read correctly). In 2005, Pluto begins its transit over the Mars. Any comments?
It cld be my own cancer moon/midheaven, but it seems to me that commentators, bloggers & pol-pundits are increasingly using such words such as "loony" & "lunatic" to describe the heavily cancerian bushie & his regime. Hah! Oh well... if the shoe fits n' all that. ;O) http://tinyurl.com/iind
Regarding astrocartography, Morgana, have you looked at the August date?
Shylurker - very fascinating about Dean, thanks for sharing.
Pluto conjuncting Mars: gee, power struggles, intellectual challenges. The guy will be fighting with fire to defend something he believes in strongly. Personal power very high!! Lots and lots of energy. Sounds to me like he'll be in charge. Wouldn't that be delightful?
I would certainly like to know what the astrologers think.
Bop Graham, former Intelligence Committee chairman, who helped produce the 9-11 report, has telephoned the current committee chairman, Pat Roberts, R-Kansas, and vice-chairman Jay Rockefeller, D-West Virginia, to suggest that they use an existing but untested process by which the Senate can publicly disclose classified material despite the objections of the White House. Things are becoming very interesting!
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/07/30/graham.intel.report/
Gore? Might he jump in?
Backers pressure Gore to run again next year
By Alexander Bolton
Former Vice-President Al Gore is coming under pressure from political supporters and friends to jump into the 2004 presidential campaign even though he ruled himself out in December.
http://www.hillnews.com/news/073003/gore.aspx
Did anyone look at the astrology associated today with Bush's Press Conference? He looked pretty scared, angry, lost, fluxomed, dim-witted to me. Any thoughts?
Jonathan
Jonathan what a picture of Saturn nailing someone's ahem butt. Their ignorance is showing.
Bush has become a caricature. Hillary and Al?????? THAT would be karmic justice to the max :)!!!!!!!!!
Jonathan. Is that a set up line? Okay I'll go for it. He ALWAYS looks that way. cymbal crash.
I was thinking the same thing Larry but I was listening(forced to listen) to my coworker in the adjacent cubicle ( who would jump off a clift if Bush told him) listening to Bush online yesterday and I kept asking myself if Shrub had a hangover or did he not get enough sleep.
Bush set a new low for public speaking yesterday.
Although I despise Bush and the Repugs, I was embarrased to be an American while I listened to him sputter through his press conference with broken sentences and his trying to correct his mispronounciations(sic) or misidentifying people.
OK, this does it. When I read this one, I just - that's it. If you would, please send similar emails to the networks (addresses below), with your own comments, and send this to as many people as you can and ask them to send, too. I hope that if we start putting more pressure on the media, this will go through the roof. It's a start. Thanks.
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Who are you trying to protect by not reporting things like this? BE JOURNALISTS, for God's sake! People want the TRUTH. Thousands of people died. Do any of you care about that? Do ANY of you have a conscience? If you continue to bury stories like this, the blood of those thousands of people is on your hands, too.
__Did Cheney's Secret Energy Meeting Set Stage for Iraq Attack?
"Here is the smoking gun pointing directly to Cheney's secret energy company meetings held at the White House in early 2001. Some of the documents of the meetings reveal charts of 'Foreign Suitors for Iraqi Oilfield Contracts' and a 'map of Iraqi oilfields, pipelines, refineries and terminals' ... Congress and the press should immediately and thoroughly investigate any linkage between the secret White House deals, the fake California energy crisis, the Enron collapse, and the US invasion and occupation of Iraq. The question to ask is: Did the White House sell US foreign policy to the highest energy company bidder?"
http://www.veteransforcommonsense.org/newsArticle.asp?id=899
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Lucy, I have passed that along to as many people as I can, and that's quite a few.
Not only was the showing of the Hussein brothers' bodies barbarian----and believe me, these two were monsters, I don't have personal sympathy for them, and they won't be missed---but in spite of the crimes of the two dead men, now the US is shown to be just as bad if not worse. Morally, it's totally unconscionable. The war was a crime, and this is a crime. It's a mob hit. It's never been done like this before by the US. We've reached a new low. (And Iraqis and other Arabs *will* see this as another insult. They're very proud.) We're supposed to want these people *alive*, to get information out of them. To stand trial before the Iraqi people they tortured, and be accountable. And maybe they could have told us where Saddam is, and he could be captured, and stand trial. I'm convinced they want all of these people dead---esp. Saddam--- because they know the truth about the corporate and political incest, and how culpable Bushies and their ilk are in Saddam's regime staying in power. After all, he was on "our side" against Iran, all those years ago. Rumsfiend met him and shook his hand with a big jack'o'lantern smile-leer. Saddam *and* the Bushies are all bad news, and they can't afford to let him talk, can't afford for him to say that he doesn't have WMDs in a court of law. They need that illusion. (Notice now they all say it was about a WMD "program". Uh...does that mean a plan? As in, on paper?? Now we attack countries for *thinking* about it?) Cheney's little oil field plots, that's what it's all about. The US was fed up with waiting for the contracts, fed up with France, Russia, other countries having a piece of the pie, so they decided to just grab it all. And if thousands die in the process, too bad. They're the little people. US and UK troops dying? Tough. We want oil.
The Ferengi analogy is brilliant! Perfect! Greedy little bastards. There's also a strong strain of Nietszchean type Christianity, although I know that sounds like a contradiction in terms. But it's very Superman (the elites) against everyone else. Compassion is weakness. Religion is a weapon, like a bludgeon, and it's not the meek kind. Their Jesus isn't the same one we may know from the Bible. He's angry, arrogant, and I think American and Republican. He's warlike, violent, and believes anything he does is right because he did it. And laws don't apply to him. You know, he's American Jesus.
How does it look for Al Gore? I'd love to see him run. Those numbers look promising. I doubt he'd run with Hillary, for two reasons: they're pretty competitive and never really got along during the last administration. They both wanted Bill's ear. (Aries and Scorpio---strong Mars energy!) And because she has ambitions of her own, I don't think she'd want to commit herself to eight years of VP, potentially. But I'd love to see Gore in there. The numbers look promising, and much as I respect Dean, I'm very afraid he'll never be acceptable, no matter how much goes to hell under the Rethugs. With their money and media power, they'll still be able to defeat him, and we'll be so screwed. Gore has a great chance. He could come back with real fire in his eyes. I mean, my god, he was robbed. And the country has gone down the tubes. Gore/Clark, that might work. Or Gore/Kerry---but please, no more Lieberman. Ugh. Anyway, a Gore return would be the best news I've had in ages.
Tricia,
How about a Gore/Graham ticket? With Graham one of Florida's most beloved figures, the Dems (or, as I like to think of it, the party of "anyone-but-Bush") would sew up that State hands-down, which would take Florida, New York, California and probably Illinois out of the "Bush/Cheney column" ... unless the computerized voting machines are rigged a la 2002. Is there anyway to look at a chart for Election Day and see how the aspects look regarding computers, electronics and fraud? Just learning, so bear with me and my sometimes silly questions. :-)
Jonathan
Poindexter to Resign Following Terrorist Futures Debacle http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/31/politics/31CND-POIN.html?hp
Arch-criminal poindexter ain't goin' anywhere except a bit underground so to speak. The plutocrats & plutocrat wannabees were seein' how much they cld get away with at the present time... pushin', pushin', pushin'... stickin', stickin', stickin'... They'll make another bid for the same equally outrageous a little later. They like distractors anyway. These patriarchal geezers have been doing same-old for quite some time... about 4500 yrs... they're bored. Got nothin' else to do but find ways to dominate others.
In the previous thread, Crystal wisely noted imo that there's been quite an exodus of fundie jewish folks to Israel. A large number of fundie christianoids have gone to... well, ostensibly Iraq to convert them satanic Islamics. But, at any rate, to the same hell-hole as the fundie Jews. Connecting much info (yammerings from the insane rummy for instance http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/073103A.shtml ) rather leads me to understand that they are rapidly creating the "End of the World" by nuclear blast.
There are, in fact, many fundies who believe the nuclear bomb was created by their mad-god to bring this event about. That cld be a reason why bush n' bliar appear to care nothin' about anything, but mouth silly rhetoric they think all the rest of us bad sinful unwashed unsaved regular folk want to hear. These creatures et al believe the end is now so nothin' matters... incl "matter." Their rationalizing abstract bloated sick egos subs for "matter"... which also exactly is the "matter" with/of their god.
These "boyz" despise & war on Life... they don't like being the reality--which is organic. They don't like being "Consciousness" & the response/ability that goes with it. They don't like green or luxuriant vegetation & running Life-giving Water; they like hot n' blasted n' gone n' dead. Yet, still within them, & for themselves, is the key to transformation.
* The Passion of the Western Mind: Understanding the Ideas that Have Shaped Our World View by astrologer Richard Tarnas.
http://www.gaiamind.org/Tarnas.html (For those who like, more or less, read bites, scroll down to Section "Bringing It All Back Home."
Also, an overall exact description of what's happened /happening with all of us (ohps! surprise! ...including women/Living World who, I know some folks won't believe, are beings in their own right), may I suggest the book "The Great Cosmic Mother: Rediscovering the religion of the Earth" by Monica Sjoo & Barbara Mor written in 1987--these two Cassandras hold back no secrets (I thank the Living Universe). Namaste.
Lucy, I'll pass that information along to the appropriate media. Those criminals ought to be behind bars. I'm sure you're familiar with the saying - you can fool some of the people all of the time, or all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.
There are two Democrat contenders that I won't even consider, and they are Gephardt, and Lieberman. As far as I'm concerned, after the debate and follow-up vote on the Iraq war, Gephardt should have crossed the aisle. He was arguing for the war with more enthusiasm than even some of the Repubs, and he was willing to give the President carte blanche to act.
I remember Joe Lieberman being the first Democrat to publicly chastise President Clinton during the Lewinsky scandal, and I thought that was truly in bad taste, but I guess he was already having visions of political aspirations, and figured that he had better distance himself from Clinton, and I think he may actually have cost Gore some votes when he was chosen as his running mate. He was also one of those who was beating a loud drum for going to war with Iraq, and unlike Kerry, he voted unconditionally for the Iraq war resolution.
Heh heh heh, Joanna I saw the good news about Poindexter. I bet the administration was innundated with numerous calls and mail opposing the idea, so they had no choice. They should have sacked him when he suggested the electronic surveillance program to spy on Americans in the name of "terrorism", but probably not too many people were aware of it. As far as I'm concerned, Poindexter is a left over crook from the Reagan administration.
You've got that right, Crystal... and lieberman, well, another tiresome neocon. I'm willing to bet a quarter that he hi-tails it to the "hole-ly land" to join the other certifiable religio-nutz fairly soon to be "lifted up in the blast". That tiny little thang makes my skin crawl.
I'm still not sure where Gore's "at," but I do believe the DLC arm of the repugnant party stuck him with Lieberman, & I don't believe Gore was any too happy with that. Gore was seein' the writing on the wall & didn't like what he saw comin' down the turnpike. Gore's an aries (& calculating risk moon in capricorn)... he wouldn't have backed down from a good fight... had it a remote chance in hell of being fair (aries partner libra) imo. ;O)
Shylurker thanks for the Yellowstone link, timely. I'd be watchin' right now, it's a Mars thing with me :)
Jonathan, I also see potential in Graham. He's trying to go after the Bushies with the 9/11 report, he's not backing down. And I didn't know he was popular in Florida, but that's a great advantage, especially with Jeb Bush still there (shudder). And who knows what they'll do with the votes this time?
This is from Wolfstar on Astrologers-Online.com:
"Presidential Astrology Part 4: Dean, Edwards, and Graham
The candidate's ability to get his message to the American people has historically depended on an exact astrological connection to the U.S. Moon at 25 Aquarius. Among the declared Democratic candidates for president, only Bob Graham, John Edwards, and Howard Dean have a natal or progressed planet at 25 degrees.
Bob Graham is a Scorpio (November 9, 1936; Coral Gables, FL; time unknown), which by itself is a slight advantage in American politics. Of the 42 American presidents, five have been Scorpios, more than any other sign except Aquarius, which also has seen five presidents. Graham's only connection to the U.S. Moon is his natal Jupiter, located at 25 Sagittarius. This is slightly favorable.
John Edwards was born with his Sun in Gemini (June 10, 1953; 7:02 am; Seneca, SC). Until John F. Kennedy and George Bush Sr. were elected, the U.S. has had no Gemini presidents. However, in this age of mass media, being a Gemini is probably no longer a disadvantage. Edwards' key connection is his progressed Venus, which is at 25 Gemini, and favorably trine the U.S. Moon.
Howard Dean was born with his Sun at 25 Scorpio (November 17, 1948; 7:21 pm*; New York City), which is a very favorable placement in presidential astrology. His very being (the Sun) resonates strongly with the American people by virtue of the exact square to the U.S. Moon. Dean also has his progressed Pallas, the political asteroid, at 25 Taurus, a favorable second link to the U.S. Moon. These connections account for his sudden rise in the polls and his successful online fund raising. Based on their links to the U.S. Moon, Dean is the best choice."
He's also got some mildly alarming stuff in there about Bush's progressed Uranus late August, and Korea.
Tricia,
Bob Graham has a 30 year political career in Florida where he's never been defeated, including State wide elections. So, they know him, they TRUST him and, should he be on the ticket, will certainly carry Florida for the "anybody-but-Bush" party. Gore was thinking of having him as the VP in 2000. Just imagine how different things would be if he had done so!
Jonathan
This should be good news for the left coasters.
http://www.daykeeperjournal.com/feature.shtml
snip......
" With the August 28 sky events, something will happen which will throw a surprise to Gray Davis and to California. At the same time, Jupiter is moving into Virgo. Virgo is a sign of the people, compared to Leo, a sign of the elite. The influence of the people will grow for the next year.
Virgo is the sign of California’s Sun, Vesta, and Jupiter, and these energies will also undergo a growth period during the next year. Jupiter is, right now during this difficult period, trining Gray Davis’ Sun, and this gives him both protection and luck. His best strategy now is to appeal to the people, rather than to the money pockets. In fact, this is what will work best for the Democrats for the next year.
Astro*Carto*Graphy maps continually show heavy stresses and strains on the east coast, and often in the midlands, but California looks comparatively peaceful. Whatever happens with the election and with the economy, we will ride it out. And wherever he is, Gray Davis is in for a year of growth along with his Saturn hardship"
How important is it that Howard Dean officially launched his campaign during a void of course moon? I think the moon was void for most of the day; are there degrees of void of course? Thank you so much!
Howard Dean's speech may have been on a void-of-course Moon, but his speech still deeply resonates with me, especially the end where he tells the public, "You have the power . . .".
I hope the VOC Moon does not hurt his chances!!
hey bbuster!
what DID he say about late august and bushie and korea?
my biggest fear these days is not bush in 2004 (don't see it) - it's feeling "sorry" for him because of Kim..i don't like this psychic fear! i don't like it at all! hopefully it's a false fear.
Hi bbuster! Dean sure looks like he takes the lead...still I'm not sold. Just saw Wesley Clark on CrossFire he's awful close to jumpin' in.
Wesley Clark was awesome, and incredibly impressive. He's gonna be a yes, for sure.
I saw that Peg. He was impressive and even Novak couldn't shake him. I like Clark.
The Lord Hutton Inquiry on the Dr Kelly affair begins next week. It should be fascinating.
Those wishing to follow it might bookmark this excellent page and refer to it as the witnesses for the government and for BBC appear to offer testimony. It will be updated as the Inquiry proceeds. Your questions will be acknowledged..
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From Wolfstar:
a "once in a lifetime progression, namely Bush's progressed Midheaven, signifying his world status, will be forming a conjunction with Uranus.
Uranus in Bush's chart aligns with the U.S. Mars, and so signifies his personal connection to the nation's military. [personal? remember, this sumbitch got a cushy spot in the Champagne Brigade in Texas, and was AWOL his last year in the Guard, so it may be personal, but it's quirky, too -bbuster]
This aspect is exact in late October, but is already a dominant influence in his chart. It represents rapidly developing military events, which may very well include the capture of Saddam. Due to the eccentric, unexpected nature of Uranus, we may also see other less fortuitous developments. Keep an eye on North Korea..."
Oh, and while we're analyzing contenders, here is a non-astrological analysis, from Molly Ivins, a national treasure, a brilliant writer who coined the term "Shrub", and who happened to go to high school with the shrub and knows him well. It's called who can beat President Doofus, and it's hilarious!
http://www.progressive.org/aug03/ivin0803.html
i'm wondering if the late august mars intensity will result in that missing 747 showing up..
bush's uranus things along with the saturn aspects for fall, is probably what will seem like a sudden bad turn around for him, for most people (people in middle america) will seem sudden and unexpected but we all saw it astrologically and just karmically, from stealing the election.. militarily people are still paying attention to the fiasco and failure of iraq, and tony blairs falling from grace: it's put the brakes on all military action..plus the obviousness as to why we don'thave a 'war' with saudi arabia since they are more implemented re 9/11...so i don't think anything will happen militarily..i think bush will start to go down, and we may be attacked at the same time, but he won't be the guy to rally the people any more.
dean is a real sort of father figure, which may be very appealing now as we have a 'son' that people are definitely sick of .. if we're attacked however clark may be the guy...if we're not attacked, and the people get REALLY angry about everything..i see kucinich taking it as a third party after january..my take on the climate!
With a newly slimmed-down Gore taking to the campaign trail this month (with both Bill and Hillary) against the California recall ... and not necessarily in defense of Davis, I'm beginning to suspect he, Gore, will get in the Presidential race after the Primaries. I know this (Gore's re-entry) has been discussed here before, so if someone could "link" me to those articles or whatever, I'd greatly appreciate it. :-)
Jonathan
I read that Gore is giving an anti-war speech Thursday in New York. Can anyone post about this? Thanks.
Peg, for a man who isn't running he sure has gotten visible. Can't take much more of Lieberman's whineing over Dean's lead and the Left Anti-Bush/Anti-War have left are misleading the Dem's. (oh giant waaahhh). Will see if he (Gore) has a backbone and can face down doughboy and the chimp.
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